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All right, welcome back our number
three on Thurby. Gonna be a hot

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one, baby. Everybody's gonna be
sweating through their jackets and dresses today at

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the Churchill Now, I was watching
most of the news yesterday as they were

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all live out there all day long. It's unbelievable kind of effort they put

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into broadcasting there on a Wednesday or
a Tuesday. But they were guys who

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are just losing. They lost their
jackets and they were untucking their shirt.

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It was hot, and today's gonna
be even more so. So be careful.

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And again, no school tomorrow because
we're a community that believes in uh,

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the race track and gambling more than
school. Right. We just you

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learn math at the you can,
you know you can, and I mean

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you learn how to do odds.
You get an education from the track,

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of course you do, right,
Yeah, of course Barty booked to call.

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Remember to hydrate too. Uh that's
the thing everyone forgets, right,

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what happened? You didn't eat?
Dude? How many times you do?

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Oh my god? Yeah. I
was proud of my wife, Susan.

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She came home last night. I
told her to take an uber. She's

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just drive. I'm not gonna take
an uber, right, So her and

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her sister took an Uber there and
uber. Oh by the way, if

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you're thinking, oh, how was
there ubers right out front? Stop staring

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out the window? Uh, will
you focus over here? Okay, I'm

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sorry over here? Wow, Okay, So anyway, there's already Derby goers

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going by our window. Downtown.
Mean he's distracted. Okay. So anyway,

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if you think it, you know, you're taking an uber is expensive?

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Yeah, think again, man,
she I mean maybe Derby and Oaks

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might change, might change, But
man, don't risk drinking and driving,

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I told her. She said,
well, I probably won't drink. So

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well, just just in case you
do, take an Uber there and back.

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What do you think the to the
track from the east end to the

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track? Fifty bucks? It's forty
bucks. I thought it would be one

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hundred and twenty five. Well they
do. I don't understate. I don't

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know what scale they use or whatever, but they they they whatever events like

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it was one hundred dollars to drive
three miles when my kids back from when

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they did the what was the hippie
oh foreskin festival? Yeah, for skin

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festivals downtown. I kept kids went
every day, which I don't understand.

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I thought that would be about something
different but his music. And they were

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like, I said, just duber
home, man, I'm not waiting till

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one am. Can get you not
getting into that, They're like, well,

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it's one hundred and twenty dollars,
Like it's three miles. I don't

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kid, it's a hundred twenty dollars. I don't care if it keeps me

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from getting out of bed at one
in the morning. So let us know

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if Marty calls in. So there
is a Goldilocks middle ground for food when

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it comes to drinking, right,
So if you don't if you don't eat

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at all, you always are asking
those questions to your wife or your friends.

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What happened? Dude? You didn't
eat and you were on third tequila

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before I could even get my first
you didn't eat? How many times you

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just wake up and this car your
best friend, and your first words out

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of your mouth is what I do? What I do? Or who do

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I have to call? No?
And that's a that's a big one.

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And you know, if you text
him and say I'm sorry and they don't

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text you back, you're like,
oh boy, yeah, I'm what did

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I say, uh. And then
there's the other side of that when you

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get older, is you eat too
much, right, and then you can't

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funk. You can't drink anymore because
you've eaten too much. So there's a

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Goldilocks little area of the sure.
Snacking all day is not a bad idea.

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Go or go tequila the water,
tequila or beer than water. That

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is the smartest you can do is
is go two drinks one water, two

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drinks one water, or one one
for one. We're from two former drunks.

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Yeah, I know, welcome to
drunk. Talk a drunk. Let's

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do while we're waiting on Marty,
let's do uh this day in history for

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May second. And by the way, the bomb of the hour. We're

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gonna be talking to people magazines.
One of her editors of the brand new

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show coming Out Survive having a serial
killer. Her name's Alicia Dennis. Some

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of these uh wow, some of
these stories are petrifying. It was today

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in eighteen ninety either Oklahoma's created and
we shall call it Oklahoma eighteen ninety.

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Eighteen ninety is a little late.
Well, Oklahoma's late to the gay They

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are there on sooner time. The
fact that they had that damn land giveaway.

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Do you see those pictures where they're
all in the line and are like,

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look, when we fire this cannon, run you go. And if

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you go now, and if you
find a little steak in the ground,

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all that land is yours. What
what? Yeah? I wonder if Shaky

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Green ran in that race. It
was today May second, nineteen twenty seven

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in the US Supreme Court and Buck
versus bell upheld an eight to one decision

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of a Virginia law allowing uh people
to be sterilized. The sterilization law was

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to promote the health of the patient
and the welfare of society. Wow,

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what's Virginia? Some people evidently amorous. Some people need to be sterile.

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I know a lot of friends.
I have friends that should be sterile.

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Hey, I shouldn't have kids,
Doctor Nick Myers. He decaffeinated me with

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requests with reason. This bloodline needs
and it is stop the bloodline and this

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Witten business, this Witten business.
I've had enough, but I didn't.

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It didn't hurt though. You ever
met two people and you're like you both

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you pro created. Yeah, this
child is going to be a demon because

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both of you are a holes and
your kid's going to be an a hole.

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As you're doing is breeding a holes. And if I had a couple

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of sons, it would be like
the Mendez brothers. They would smother me

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for all of my fortune. I
was very rude to someone once. Yeah,

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so what wait? Once that narrows
it down, well going, I'm

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going to cover a UFL game at
Freedom Hall back when I used to be

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a sports dirt So it's always difficult
to get it's so much fun to get

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in and out of the fair grounds. The circle Champions. Yeah, of

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course it is. Well in the
other lane where no one is. This

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guy in a huge hummer right where
it's jacked up a little bit, sorry

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about your penis, right bias,
and everybody's like holy cow, trying to

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get out of his way. Yeah, so he parks and I was like,

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oh, I know what's coming out
of this. I know what's coming

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out of this short guy Ponytail was
short guy ponytail, And and this is

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what I didn't expect was the other
side. His son got out dressed exactly

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like him, ponytail, short guy, and I said, not kidding.

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The cannonball run. I couldn't help
myself, so I got out of my

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car. I rolled over and they
seemed nice enough, but you could tell

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them, I wait, prick yeah, pricking training, prick, pricking training,

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And they're like, what walked away? Drove hover? Dude? You

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two they look and that's fair to
say to couples, you two should not

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have kids. I had the wrong
movie refords. That was U who it

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was a woodn't cannonball run the head
one? They were both dressed alike.

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I think that was uh no,
it was smoking the bandit what the hell?

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Drove the white Catillac and one guy
water all white suit and they had

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a little guy, Oh yeah,
yeah yeah. How could you not remember

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big and little Linus? Well,
there's some of my brain cells have taken

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a vacation. Sorry, I don't
know if it's a permanent one or not.

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Mann't sent a postcard. It was
May second, nineteen already did that.

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It was May second, nineteen seventy
that student anti war protesters at Ohio's

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Kent State burned down the campus ROTC
building boy As a result, National Guard

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took control of the campus, and
two days later, four students were killed

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and nine more were injured. They
were supposed to have rubber bullets and there

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was basically one guy that panicked that
said fire something like that. OHI,

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but at that time he was getting
out of control. We're seeing it all

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over again right now. Are you
seeing this UCLA campus? It looks like

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a war zone, and like there's
a lot of presidents at North Carolina,

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Florida that are saying, you're not
kids anymore. This isn't high school.

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You're eighteen, right, You're an
adult. So what you do is there's

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consequences, because that's what you got
to tell these kids. You're not a

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kid anymore. You're an adult and
you're on this campus destroying buildings. Now

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you're going to jail. No,
you're going to jail charging for it.

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You're going to charge of you can
possibly fathom the intricate political football that is

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the Middle East, but go ahead
at nineteen years old, think you've got

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to figure it out and understand it. But there's most the most people on

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a planet are like, we will
never understand the Middle East. You understand

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it was today? Sorry about the
little rant. That's okay? Is there

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a lawn and you want me to
get off? Oh yeah, so's I

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touched foot on your property? You
I know, alarm goes off. You

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know, it's not like electric fence, like invisible fence. I've got you

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tagged and you don't know where it
is. But when you come to my

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house, I gotta say, he
crosses an electric fence thing. There's an

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alarm in the house. All the
lights go off and the doors lock.

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I gotta chay the squirrel. Yeah. Do you remember when it was either

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me and Les or me and Charlie
Steele. We got one of the target.

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There's a little squares they put on
CD so as you walk out,

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they shoplift and goes. That's out
the You don't know how hard that was

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for me. So we got one
a little tig somewhere. There was a

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sticker that looks like a little computer
chip. Right, you've seen them,

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Rick, have you seen those the
stickers that look like computer chips. That's

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the attack right, An put it
in my wallet. Yeah, we hit

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it. You know where the key? She's every building, every business.

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I walked in and walked out.
He went and I had to stop,

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and I was like, what is
going on? It's like it went on

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for weeks. I gotta tell you, I stopped going to stores. I

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was like I'm not going. My
wife was like, what's the deal?

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And I was like, I got
I was like, these things keep happening.

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And then I was going through my
wallet and went son of up.

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He come in, complained, freaking
target every time I walked through the arm

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girls. It was today May second, nineteen seventy, four months after his

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resignation from office. Former Vice President
SPIROT. Agnew was this barred by Maryland

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Court of Appeals. Effectively, if
I used to sign, like when we

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go to weddings, I would sign
SPIAU. Agnew on the whole little thing.

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He was disbarred by the Maryland Court
of Appeals effective effectively. What do

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you do? Uh? He was
just barred? What do you do?

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What did I guess? But what
did? What did Agnew? It was

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part of that Nixon deal, wasn't
it? Oh it was Agnew part of

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Nixon? I think? So?
Right? Yeah, he was vice president,

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So I guess because the whole deal. They just disbarred him. Anyway,

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they also find him two hundred and
seventy thousand dollars. If you decide

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to become vice president, is it
the decision to just make yourself out to

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be a joke? For the like. There was very few vice presidents that

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didn't turn out to look like goose
for the rest of their lives. Are

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right? George Bush was the only
one that when he became I thought George

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H. Bush was one of the
best presidents we've ever had. I really

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do an argument for me, not
his son, but he's like one of

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the only vice press up being.
Uh. Think about all of the people

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that have said, you know,
I'll be your vice president, yeah,

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and they end up they lose about
half their IQ for the four years or

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vice president. Like, what the
hell happens to these people? They find

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him two hundred and seventy thousand dollars
in nineteen seventy four. You want that's

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worth to in today's dollars? Oh? My god, one million, seven

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hundred and ten thousand dollars in a
Oh. It was a civil suit that

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stem from ribery allegations. Says Agnew
went down to be as one of America's

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worst vice presidents. It was today
May second, nineteen eighty three that at

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seven earthquakes happened in California injuring five
hundred people. I don't remember that,

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do you? I got a side
note? This all right. Yeah,

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we brought up the protests North Carolina. Apparently there was a group of fat

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boys, frat boys that were making
fun of protesters. Good. So the

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frat boys held up an American flag
and told the pro Palestinian protesters to lose

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weight. Ah, they've had a
GoFundMe and they raised three hundred thousand dollars

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for people, going that's great,
I'll give you. I'll give you some

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fraternity money. Oh, let's do
one more. We got ten more time

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men shift through these that that uh, Marty difftus. Yeah. No,

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I'm very unlike Marty. I will
do two more. Well, with all

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due respect he he likes to have
a good time during Derby week. So

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yeah, and Marty has a great
saying that it's nine am somewhere. That's

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right, you know, it's right. It was today May second, twenty

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thirteen, Rhode Island became the tenth
state in the United States to legalize gay

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marriage. Gay rights activists and supporters
celebrated the first wedding that was scheduled August

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first, once the law came into
effect. And it was also today May

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second, twenty eighteen that E Coli
break outbreak took place because the romaine led

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us. They're growing in you my
Arizona, and that romaine lets never had

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the same reputation. Yeah no,
really it really did. Before this romain

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was fine dining, they asked,
you know. And by the way,

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romaine wasn't built in the day.
He'll no, hey, But after that,

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it's just like they were tainted taint
e cola and then like a butt

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thing. Thank you for connecting those
dons. Absolutely, I'm a dot collector.

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Appreciate ah. Anyway, they reported
the first fatality with one hundred and

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twenty one cases across twenty five US
states on this day. Who do we

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have? Uh, Tony's breaking the
line. Oh baby, that's what I'm

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spraying. Tony's break in alignment.
Baby, Finally a place listen to this

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With Joan Donner and surviving a serial
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This is ready my favorite segment.
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wife's not listening because she might get
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RU twenty one is filing for bankruptcy
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seventeen. With the news radio eight
forty whas Bloomberg Money Report, I'm Joan

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Donagher, news Radio eight forty WHS. This is Talking Heads, Psycho Killer,

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Psycho Kiddler. We like creepy stories
on this show. Yes we did

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it. We've had some really creepy
people work for this show. One of

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the people I work with is super
creepy. We wean't to bring in Alicia

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Dennis. She is the editorial director
for People. Hey, Alicia, how

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are you doing? Good morning?
How are you hey? I'm doing great.

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Thanks for having me of course,
always great to have you on the

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show. And I want to talk
about what's happening this Sunday, May fifth,

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because the series premiere of By the
way, it's on Investigation Discovery.

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The series premiere of Surviving a Serial
Killer airs this Sunday, and I can't

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wait. God, so many creepy
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is going to be The Dating Game
Killer, and the body count on this

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guy is ridiculous. Now, first
of all, hang on the show is

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its title? Yeah? People?
That can you answer that? Just that's

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really the premise of the entire show. Is the title that you have there?

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That's right. Every single episode has
someone who survived a serial killer and

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talking about their experience. Everyone.
I gotta think this guy has one of

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the highest body counselor is an estimated
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to California. But he's called the
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on the Dating Game No way,
give us some background on this series premiere.

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Yeah, it's it's a crazy story. Just like you said, this

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case is about Rodney al Khala.
He is known as a Dating Game killer

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because he was on that show back
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they would have bachelors that would come
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woman would come on the other side
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questions. What's more Number one,
if we went on a date, where

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would you take me? And things
like that. And so this guy was

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so charming and charismatic that he made
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did he make it onto the show, but he won the date she picked

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him. Oh oh boy, wow. And that's part of the reason he's

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called that was he a serial killer? While at the same time like,

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I don't know. Okay, all
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don't know what's No one knew,
right, you know that he was at

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the time obviously, but he had
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that show. When you meet people, you know, it's like when we're

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mean people and we judge people.
So when they you know, the creepy

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looking guy, you're like, how
many times have you said with your friends,

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You're like, that guy looks like
a serial killer. But that's never

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a siver killer. The sial killer
is always the charming, right, the

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guy that you wouldn't think of In
a lot of cases, You're right,

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you know, in a lot of
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friendly and compelling. And there are
some cases like Rodney al Kala. Also,

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you know, you think of Ted
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as the Casanova Killer. He was
John A. Paul John Knowles. There's

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a few like that that they didn't
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into their cars or into their houses
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we talked to some of these survivors, they say that it's this just scary

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moment when somebody who's joking and laughing
and just is the sweetest boy next door,

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all of a sudden, in seconds, changes and turns and their eyes

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become blank, almost like the shark, and all of a sudden, the

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monster is in the room. You
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serial killers are charming and engaging and

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get them to fall for him.
But let's flip the script on that too.

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You mentioned Pad John Knowles. Let's
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because the flip the script gets flipped
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to get him to fall in love
with her to escape, Is that right?

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Yeah, So what happens basically is, you know, she this woman,

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Barbara Maybel may be Able, comes
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the serial killer in her house,
holding her sister who has a disability,

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hostage boy, and she's like,
you know, you can't do She bargains

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with him, and he then says
he's going to kidnap her little boy,

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and she says, no, just
just take just take me, and he

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takes her. And at the time, she's trying to figure out a way

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to survive this and knowing from what
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that she's going to die, and
so she tries to convince him that she

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has fallen in love with him and
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her. And what's so I mean, she's using every single survival skills she

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can. And what's so horrifying about
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departments weren't as sophisticated as they are
saying, they weren't as completely understanding of

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this as they are today. When
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her story, she was met with
you know, it sounds like you you

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know, you were trying to make
him your boyfriend. You know, it's

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going to be a that she said. And we interviewed the police, who

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now are just appalled that that's the
way it was handled because had it been

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handled differently and the way that they
would handle it now, people would have

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been saved. You know, he
basically went on to kill other people because

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he wasn't investigated for well he was
the show. Yeah, it's fascinating because

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you're you're exactly right if you watch
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these ones from the seventies. Uh, they the police departments, just a

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couple of miles apart, did not
share information. No, no, even

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one better than it's unbelievable. No. And and Tony brought up by the

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way on an investigation discovery this Sunday, kicking off the the series Surviving a

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Serial Killer of People Magazines editorial director
Alicia Dennis is a joined US and Tony

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brought up something that I had forgotten
about off air earlier when it came to

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the Dahmer case. They brought one
of his victims back to Dama. Yes,

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yes, the little guy. Yeah, that he got away and the

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police took him back. Wow.
Yeah, Yeah, it's really scary,

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really really scary, and I think
that the police have learned a lot.

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Oh sure, And you know one
of my favorite also is my son wrestled

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for like eight years and the one
guy that got away from Bundy, but

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Gaysey got away from Gaysey was a
high school wrestler. Because I watched that

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one do and he said, I
somehow the cuffs were just loose enough to

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get one wrist out and when he
came out, he goes. I hit

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him with a couple of wrestling moves
and got the got the haycuffs on him,

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and he eventually got out, got
away. But it's this is what

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we're talking about, a whole series. Now. How many episodes are there

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in this series? There's six?
Okay, and within the six episodes,

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there's some episodes that have more than
one survivor sharing their story within it.

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Okay, what is your personal which
episode is your personal favorite? Oh?

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No, you can't them. I
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by the way, that's a lie. Everyone has a favorite kid, so

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using as an excuse, just picka
damn hang on, hang on, Tony,

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hang on, if that if that's
true, which one of your two

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kids is your favorite, ask Maggie. Maggie. Maggie will say, of

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course it's John, all right,
Alicia Dannis. He's the editorial director for

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People Investigation Discoveries. Where you're going
to find it Surviving a Serial Killer.

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I want to ask you about one
of the episodes though this. I think

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it's mid May. It's when it's
going to take place, Surviving the Road

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Killer. If I'm not mistaken,
I think this we're in Louisville, Kentucky.

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I think this happened in Lexington,
Kentucky. But if not correct me

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if I'm wrong. Okay, Okay, talk a little bit about this one

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because this is creepy. And by
the way, the victim somehow turns their

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scars into stars and starts helping people. But talk about that one for a

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second. Yeah, this is a
case about the real roadkiller and on how

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Rassindez was known as the railroad Killer
because he would jump on railroad cars in

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between like California all the way to
Florida. And where this case took place

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was when Holly k Done and her
boyfriend were in college and they were in

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Lexington, Kentucky, and they were, you know, just like on a

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picnic kind of thing when this serial
killer encountered them and attacked them and she

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managed to survive. It's just she
was she was horribly attacked. And not

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only did she come forward to talk
about that case and like what happened in

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the way that she felt about,
you know, her boyfriend and everything,

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that she started a nonprofit advocacy center
to help other victims and to help people

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under help the police investigate them because
a lot of times, when to come

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forward, they find it really hard
to tell their story over and over and

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over and over and over again to
different investigators. And so this is a

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safe place for them to come and
for the investigators to all come, and

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for the victim to be able to
share it once and have everybody hear it

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together. It's remarkable that she's put
it together in that way, and I

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think it just speaks to the incredible
inspiration and strength that people like her have

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to be willing to tell us all
about it and then to continue to help

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people. Well, yeah, and
let me tell you, let's just put

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this your perspective. Until the nineteen
seventies, psychologists, they didn't even doctors,

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didn't think a serial killer could even
exist, Like that was this is

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a new science. The last thirty
forty fifty years, they didn't even think

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what doing all a serial killer that
does the same thing. No, No,

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that doesn't happen. So think about
that. We're talking about the police.

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He's connecting the dots. Hell doctors
were like serial killers. That doesn't

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exist. And it's really difficult when
you think about it, for the police

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to manage crime scenes that are happening
from California to Florida. How do you

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even do that? And so now
the way that people are communicating with each

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other, it makes it much easier
and sharing you know, all the advances

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in DNA testing and things like that. At the same time, you know,

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it's just so scary to imagine that, you know, it could happen

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to any of us. Like a
lot of times people are judging, you

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know, like you said, and
they think, oh, this only happens

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to a person who's in a particular
part of their life or in a dark

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place or whatever, and that's just
not true. You know, it's just

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not true. And thankfully we have
the other things on the NC I see

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all these other things, but in
place where we share information. But I

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want to talk about we talk about
serial killers and usually look at them some

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only guy or some one person in
an apartment. Let's talk serial killers,

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because in Surviving the Cook Brothers,
it's not one but as two serial killers.

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They are so creepy already, the
Cook Brothers. And it's in Toledo,

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Ohio. And by the way,
the name of this series is Surviving

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a serial Killer, so it does
have at least one person survives. Talk

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about that case in Toledo, Ohio
where it's actually two brothers. Yeah,

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it's very bizarre. You rarely see
a situation or a case like that,

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just like you said, like where
you have two brothers who are attacking and

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killing people together as like a joint
serial killer duo. And it's really really

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shocking. The woman of Cheryl Bartlett
fan who comes forward to talk to us

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about it, she goes back in
the episode to the place where she had

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been taken and attacked, and she
just has this moment of saying, you

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know, the hair on the back
of her neck stands up and just the

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energy changes just being in the space. And you know, at first when

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she was kidnapped and this other person
shows up, she thinks, oh,

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I'm going to be saved. You
know that she thinks another person has come

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here. Why wouldn't you think that, right? Right? You would never

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think that, oh, this person
is now part of it, right,

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And so it's it's such a nightmare
and very like I said, very very

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rare that that kind of thing happens. And so I think that it's a

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case that people will really want to
tune into. How did you get these

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people to go back to these scenes
of the crowd. Was it like therapy

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for them or was it like I
can't imagine going, hey, we want

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to film you at where it happened, Like how did that conversation go?

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I know? And actually some of
the interviews are taking place in the very

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room where a bunch of sickos,
that's what you all. No, no,

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no, let me let me tell
you that when we talk to people,

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they want power over this situation.
You know, it's like they we

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are taking directives from them. We
are not going to force somebody into something

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that they don't want to do.
This is really important to us to pay

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attention to what the victims need and
what they want. And so for us,

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it was like, is this something
that you want that you want to

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do? And they were like,
yes, I want to show that I

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am more than this, that this
is not just my story ends here.

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My story went on and I am
going to get past it, and I'm

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going to continue to heal and I'm
going to help other people. And so

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this was something that we had to
make sure that they wanted to do,

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and in every single case it was
that way that people wanted to to to

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share that with with our with our
onions. Well, I got to tell

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you, yeah, I can't wait
to watch. I can't wait to get

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to this series. It starts this
Sunday on Investigation Discovery. Her name is

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Alicia Dennis, editor, the director
for People magazine. Surviving a Serial Killer

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this Sunday at nine pm Eastern.
Hey, Alicia, thank you so much

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for the time and why these are
only a couple of the episodes that we

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talked about. There's there's six different
serial killers featured. I can't wait for

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this, and thank you for the
time we reached out and you were gracious

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enough come on and we appreciate it. Okay, well anytime. I really

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appreciate you. Guys. Thanks a
lot. Good to hear from me again.

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There you go. Wow, it's
up my stomach. Man, some

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of these stories or the guy comes
in and she thinks, oh, I'm

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saved, and it's no. You
see that in the movies all the time.

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That's what I'm saying. You think, oh, she's gonna help me,

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and then the girl that you think
is gonna help you because the guy's

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torturing you, and you're like,
oh my god. But then there's I

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was thought, this whole series about
the person that got away. Right.

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Guess what in every movie, like
horror film, there's always one person at

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the end that gives away, gets
away. But then in the sequel,

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who's the first person to get killed? Bengo and they get killed because they

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went back to this end of the
crime. Idiot? Okay, I thought

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were she said when the guy is
so charming and then they get home because

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she's you know, I go home
with them. And then she then they

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said every to a person that their
eyes go black and like the monster comes

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out, which, yeah, there
you go. You're so scared you can't

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even speak the face the face changes
to the monster and the eyes go black

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over and you're and then the horror
of what is what have I done?

448
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It happens to me every day when
my wife gets home. I know,

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hey, honey, how was your
day? Somehow switch gets flipped all of

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a sudden. She I'm not in
danger, but she's angry for some reason.

451
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Until you feed it fear till you
like it. Who we have rick?

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How about zero res Oh, yes, that's what I'm talking about,

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gonna have all kinds of guests inside your

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home, mucking up your carpet for
derby getting your cat spelling their cheeto dust

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on your furniture. The fret no
more. Let them go ahead and have

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a good time, because zero res
to the Rescue would even make a great

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Mother's Day gift if you ask me
for the following Sunday. But I digress.

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make your carpets look worse. They
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Either one of them is gonna get three

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Loeuisville dot com. Back to put
a bow on it and wrap it up

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on news Radioway forty whas all right, great show today, Back tomorrow.

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Dave will be back tomorrow and then
he's off again on Monday. Wow.

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He works a long day on he's
back here in the studios for Derby days,

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so he works hard for that.
All of it kind of goes through

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his prism and his studio for Saturday. So it's a very hard job.

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All right. Friday night, seven
o'clock, in recognition of one hundred and

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fifty years of the Kentucky Derby,
we will re air one of the greatest

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Kentucky Derby races in its entirety,
the nineteen seventy three Kentucky Derby with Secretary

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and as the winner of the broadcast
will play out as it did fifty one

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years ago, with Kaywood Letford and
Milton Mets on the commentary. That's pretty

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cool. It's pretty sweet. However, on this show tomorrow we are gonna

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play the very first Kentucky Derby races
better Wow. Right, wow. Television

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was really weird in one hundred and
fifty years ago. Right, it's a

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little expensive, it was. It
was, uh okay, neither one of

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those guys or whether's Kvid Lefford and
Milton Mets. So it's gonna be pretty

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special there, Okay, all right, Today is thirty A lot of drunk

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out of town people that don't know
that the track is gonna get you.

485
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The track will get you. You
think you're just having a couple of drinks.

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The next thing you know, when
you hit the parking lot, you

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can't walk. So just be careful
out there today. Well, to say

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00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:49.440
thank you to Todd Nelson, he
just checked in with us. If you're

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taking us with you to work,
you can listen to us on the radio

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00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:57.760
or do the Todd Nelson and listen
on iHeartRadio's app. Always take us with

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you, and then Marty Brook will
stiff us again. Tomorrow as he talks,

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is uh you first time? All
right? Man? We made it

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the whole freaking morning. At the
very end he shows up. No,

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00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:12.679
I get it. Man. It's
been a good show, Rick, thanks

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for helping today. Thanks guys,
especially with the reeling in the years nineteen

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sixty three. I'll be on Monday. Okay, it's our show. Quit

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talking, have fun. Rick,
we'll talk to you soon. Man for

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Dwight waiting, Untny for Daddy.
You're on news radio Waight forty w h

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I have you, Ma,

