1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:06,200 Alright, let's get and see where we're Okay, let's get into uh, 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,439 let's see apes. Let's talk about Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes. 3 00:00:10,919 --> 00:00:13,560 Just a mouthful title. I'm gonna start with you because I don't I don't 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,039 think you were down on but I felt like the first season you're like, 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,760 oh, like it's like a like a like a thumb up. I mean 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,800 it's like, eh, it's fine, you know, like I don't think 7 00:00:21,879 --> 00:00:25,640 you're raving about Yeah. Yeah, So I kind of feel like this is 8 00:00:25,719 --> 00:00:31,239 almost the opposite of quite place Day one for me, where I really love 9 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,840 those trilogy of movies that we got in that Reeves trilogy. Haven't seen the 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:39,679 og Ones. I'm not on that retro as people is that the main No, 11 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:44,479 just Patreon feeds go over Phase two four eight movies right now, but 12 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,600 the Patreons will know that I'm not on. Yeah, but yeah, I 13 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,679 love that, love that trilogy. And yeah, just this this trailer, 14 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,640 I was I guess I was hoping this could maybe turn me around on this 15 00:00:55,719 --> 00:00:59,119 or get me more excited, but it didn't do for me. I I 16 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:03,760 think this looks quite blend, quite uninspired. I don't think I'm really agreed 17 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,480 by any of the story stuff going on here. None of the characters are 18 00:01:07,519 --> 00:01:11,280 particularly grabbing me. Like even the action and the set pieces of locations all 19 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,680 seem a bit drab. So I don't know. Maybe it's really deep in 20 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,079 the political stuff, which I think is what those original ones are doing more 21 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,799 of, perhaps, but it's just not working for me. It's not grabbing 22 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,079 me. And I don't even know if I want to see it anymore. 23 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,719 I guess it kind of Oh the release date, but like, I don't 24 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:32,519 know what what is it about this trailer that should be exciting me? I 25 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,799 need I need you guys, give me some context here, because I just 26 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:38,120 I see this my eyes just glaze over. So to give you when it's 27 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,480 coming out. It's coming on May. So in May, you got The 28 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,760 Fall Guy, you got this movie, you got if Stranger chapter one in 29 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,040 Furiosa, So that's kind of what you're working with. So again another run 30 00:01:48,079 --> 00:01:52,120 of like Bang or like summer Summer season there. Yeah, and I don't 31 00:01:52,159 --> 00:01:55,560 I feel like you'll be with us on this one. I imagine how you 32 00:01:55,560 --> 00:02:00,560 gonna see Cuckoo with the Hunter Shaeffer. It's a horror movie. The trailer, 33 00:02:00,599 --> 00:02:02,799 but I'm down. Yeah, it's only thirty seconds of it's cool. 34 00:02:02,879 --> 00:02:06,840 I didn't include here because we lost trailers, but it's we have that one 35 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,360 image of her in a grocery store, like hiding and something's behind her, 36 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,879 and the trailer is her standing at a doorway. She's looking on to a 37 00:02:13,879 --> 00:02:16,280 field that the town's over, and it's a radio control of like talking about 38 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,599 like, oh, things are in trailer, like you know, it's dangerous 39 00:02:20,599 --> 00:02:23,199 happening over the radio, and it's her with a foot like a flip switch. 40 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:27,479 What is it? Switchblade? Yeah, switchblade, just doing that by 41 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,759 her side, and that's all we get. So it's very like, hey, 42 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:35,159 more for me than this, Well, there you go, So I'll 43 00:02:35,199 --> 00:02:38,800 go to the other side where I liked that first trailer, but I was 44 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,280 okay, like probably maybe someonear deal, maybe a little higher because like I 45 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,520 love apes. It's like, okay, I'll give it some and I want 46 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,520 this to be good because again, this guy's doing Zelda, So I need 47 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,719 this to I need this at least to be a seven. At least to 48 00:02:50,759 --> 00:02:53,360 be a seven. It's not it's gonna break my heart. But that's not 49 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:54,759 even come for me. Like the biggest Zelda Fan. I just like that's 50 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,800 one. I fel like you have nails. So this trailer for me, 51 00:02:59,319 --> 00:03:01,280 I'm not sure where it's gonna go the whole movie. The thing that got 52 00:03:01,319 --> 00:03:06,280 me excited was the King villain Ape though that to me looked like this is 53 00:03:06,319 --> 00:03:10,199 gonna be a really fun character. I love that. Okay, they've taken 54 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:14,000 over and we've talked with so many times, but I kind of like, 55 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,240 right a the get go, this Ape just seems like he's gonna be the 56 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,879 bad guy. It's not gonna be like the oh the hero turnfall. It's 57 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,400 just like, sometimes we've gotten so much the Thanos. Now every villain is 58 00:03:23,479 --> 00:03:25,800 becoming like, oh he has to have like a herd or being good. 59 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:30,879 I'm still down for just a despicable villain. And even then, I like 60 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:35,360 the approach of hey, the humans used to be able to do these things, 61 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,159 we need to do these things right. And he is falling into the 62 00:03:38,199 --> 00:03:43,159 literal chaps what the humans did right of taking slaves wanting the power. So 63 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,680 I like that parallel, and I think you're right down, and it's looking 64 00:03:45,719 --> 00:03:49,280 like it's gonna be more political, especially between the apes. You're seeing apes 65 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,840 starting to divide because our main character, I don't know his name, but 66 00:03:52,319 --> 00:03:54,439 he's doing the other side like what some other humans would go, like, 67 00:03:54,479 --> 00:03:58,879 hey, we shouldn't be having these people as slaves or hurting them or killing 68 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,520 them. So I like the Divide, But for me, it was this 69 00:04:01,639 --> 00:04:04,520 villain character. Now I understood when they did that, what a lovely day, 70 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,919 And it was just shot off him last year. It's like, okay, 71 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:12,039 whatever, But I think this character is going to be really interesting and 72 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,319 really fun. I gotta find out which actor is betraying him. But so 73 00:04:15,479 --> 00:04:18,319 I there's enough for me here where it's like they don't some of these apes 74 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:23,120 are not wanting to fall the same mistakes of humans and other mistakes. Other 75 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,360 apes are doing the mistakes of humans but not even knowing it because they just 76 00:04:26,399 --> 00:04:29,920 want this power. So I love the power struggle. I love the parallels 77 00:04:29,959 --> 00:04:32,639 to you know, what came before. And I'm really interested because I felt 78 00:04:32,639 --> 00:04:36,439 like with the other trilogy, we just knew, like Caesar's going in this, 79 00:04:36,759 --> 00:04:41,439 we knew like the apes had to rise. I'm not sure consider was 80 00:04:41,519 --> 00:04:44,000 right, like they had to rise, the humans had to fall, and 81 00:04:44,079 --> 00:04:46,360 Caesar eventually had to die because that's the story with this and these characters that 82 00:04:46,399 --> 00:04:49,160 we don't know. That's what I'm really peculiar about to see where we go. 83 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:50,959 So yeah, for me, it did the opposite. It got me 84 00:04:51,439 --> 00:04:55,959 really high, Like in some of the visuals, those apes on horses with 85 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,680 these scary masks and like, what's going on here? These gorillas looking frightening, 86 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,079 So I was all forced. I'm looking very forward to it now, 87 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,480 and I hope there might be another trailer, but I don't need one now 88 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:09,399 that that monkey ape the Villain sold me. You know, nice Tarr, 89 00:05:09,439 --> 00:05:15,439 where are you on the Kingdom? I am really really excited for this. 90 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,319 I think the trailer was just it was nice to get more of like a 91 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,560 story beat compared to what we got before. The other one was just I 92 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:26,720 felt, like I said, hyping everyone up. But this one it just 93 00:05:26,759 --> 00:05:30,480 got me super super jazz. I'm I'm really excited to see more of just 94 00:05:30,519 --> 00:05:34,879 the I'm hoping we get to see at least more of the different clans of 95 00:05:34,959 --> 00:05:40,079 apes and just see more of this one that's just obsessed with this human technology 96 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:44,160 they got, like the electro staffs and whatnot. Just super cool and just 97 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:48,199 hearing the narration at the start of them talking about evolution and humans and what 98 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,680 humans are capable of doing. But like, you know what, it's our 99 00:05:50,759 --> 00:05:55,720 time now, and it just reminds you just this downfall of the app Humans 100 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,279 are great, they did all this stuff, but look where they're at. 101 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:06,399 They're they're reduced to being just animals themselves pretty much. I am starting to 102 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,839 think though, after we got a little bit better view of this female that 103 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,680 in the narrative too, that they're attacking, go for it. Which also 104 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:20,240 I didn't know that's the girl who plays a Siri from The Witcher. I 105 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,920 was trying to place it the whole time in the trim, like I look, 106 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,959 she looks so familiar, but that's where she's from, so you probably 107 00:06:26,959 --> 00:06:29,759 know from that. And she also was in this movie in twenty twenty three 108 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,920 called bag Head. It was a horror film. The cover of the guy 109 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:39,319 lifting like a bag, scarecrow sack or his face. A young woman inherits 110 00:06:39,319 --> 00:06:43,279 a rundown pup and discovers a dark secret within the basement. Bag Head a 111 00:06:43,319 --> 00:06:46,279 shape shifting creature that will let you speak to your lost loved ones, but 112 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,120 not without consequence. Oh so check out this movie because it looks like it 113 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,160 could be shit, but I liked that one, but go ahead, so 114 00:06:51,639 --> 00:06:56,040 good. Yeah, she's good. I think she's on the highlights of the 115 00:06:56,079 --> 00:06:59,319 show. I just finished the fourth book. I'm still going through that, 116 00:06:59,439 --> 00:07:01,680 so oh yeah, and that was very it was a serie heavy book for 117 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,800 sure. Yeah, I think she doesn't more than Garl was. Even that's 118 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,000 how it started. Even in the games, it starts to go too, 119 00:07:09,079 --> 00:07:11,360 It's like, well, it's different cause we play as girl, but the 120 00:07:11,399 --> 00:07:15,360 story becomes more about like how can Gerrold help Siri instead of about Gerrold. 121 00:07:15,519 --> 00:07:17,399 So and I think the show is probably gonna do that too, because with 122 00:07:17,519 --> 00:07:21,800 Henry Cavill leaving, I think they'll shift shift the lead to her. So 123 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,680 it could be a big couple of years for her apes and leading Witcher. 124 00:07:25,759 --> 00:07:30,480 You know. So I'm thinking, just seeing this this female actress, that 125 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,399 just the way that her clothing is compared to the other humans, and then 126 00:07:35,519 --> 00:07:40,079 talking about how she's smarter than them and whatnot, I'm thinking, Okay, 127 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:44,079 she's gonna be our astronaut character. Is that what they're they're pulling here? 128 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,639 They did infer that she was a lot smarter than the other humans, so 129 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,560 you're right, this is hundreds of years after the last one, and just 130 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:55,519 look at how she's dressed. She's dressed like a modern day Cuman. Oh, 131 00:07:55,639 --> 00:07:59,079 that would be something if they're because they'd be because no one's supposed to 132 00:07:59,199 --> 00:08:01,720 land yet. But you can always say that's what happens with time travel, 133 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,279 right, is you change one thing and everything changes. Oh, I didn't 134 00:08:05,279 --> 00:08:09,879 even think about that. That'd be really interesting if the astronauts were already here. 135 00:08:11,279 --> 00:08:15,360 Oh, I'm kind of thinking that's what it is. And there's overhypeing 136 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:20,560 the story super deep in the lore. So the astronaut storyline is in the 137 00:08:20,639 --> 00:08:22,680 very first Plan the Apes. Obviously, Charlton hess and he lands. That 138 00:08:22,759 --> 00:08:26,519 sets up the you know, spoilers for the movie. You don't know it, 139 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:31,480 like Jump but it's eighty years old or whatever. He lands things as 140 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,840 a monkey of Apes, and then their reveal obviously it's been Earth the whole 141 00:08:33,879 --> 00:08:37,000 time. So then what happens is the rest of the movies are kind of 142 00:08:37,039 --> 00:08:43,720 a prequel because one the Apes take the spaceship and they leave Plan the Apes 143 00:08:43,759 --> 00:08:46,879 because there's a nuclear bomb gonna go off. There's a bunch of stuff happens, 144 00:08:46,879 --> 00:08:48,519 and they leave and they land back on Earth. But when they land 145 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,799 back on Earth, it's kind of like a monk or a chicken and egg 146 00:08:52,799 --> 00:08:56,000 scenario. They land back before those like you. They don't actually they don't 147 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:00,519 land off before. It's it's it's a time trial thing. It doesn't make 148 00:09:00,639 --> 00:09:03,279 much sense if you think about it, because an astronaut lands, he gives 149 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,519 the monkeys the ship and they go back to Earth. That when they go 150 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,559 back to Earth, it's when the humans are still in power and the Apes 151 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:11,039 haven't taken over yet, But it's after that astronaut has taken off. But 152 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:16,120 like we've talked about on the retro that there is like a scenario where there's 153 00:09:16,159 --> 00:09:18,840 kind of like a new timeline made. And that's what this could be because 154 00:09:18,159 --> 00:09:22,159 the ideas everyone's saying, oh, hey, eventually this has to get to 155 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,879 the original plan of the Apes, right, But Terry Tuglas on the retro 156 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,360 that maybe it doesn't. Because if this is like a new branch because something 157 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,039 got messed up, that could be it, and it could be this could 158 00:09:31,039 --> 00:09:35,879 be our imagine if she's a female, remember the one in the Planet Apes 159 00:09:35,919 --> 00:09:39,320 that just dies in the first scene, she makes the time, Yeah, 160 00:09:39,399 --> 00:09:43,519 that'd be great. So eventually what happens dealing in planet apes that astronauts land, 161 00:09:43,519 --> 00:09:48,159 and that kind of creates a whole like kind of ripple effect throughout the 162 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:52,960 timeline because it's dealing with time travel and stuff. So that's but they're not 163 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,919 supposed to come yet. They're supposed to come still the decades, maybe hundreds 164 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:01,720 of years from now, and it looks like maybe is that, like for 165 00:10:01,919 --> 00:10:03,440 sure that that's what they were going to be working towards, because I mean, 166 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,120 we're I'm pretty sure we're dealing with Cornelius here already. No, we're 167 00:10:07,159 --> 00:10:09,679 not. Isn't that the isn't that the guy's the main A. Isn't he 168 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:13,840 Cornelia? No, he's not. He's It's like Noah, it's n o 169 00:10:13,039 --> 00:10:16,240 A, it's Noah. So that's why there's no there's none of the original 170 00:10:16,279 --> 00:10:20,639 apes. That's why people have said, like, it's not that time yet. 171 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,279 I think technically from the timeline they've given from like oh it's Caesar's death, 172 00:10:24,399 --> 00:10:28,559 you know, post Caesar, it doesn't line up to win Taylor landed, 173 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,720 so it's like kind of in the middle of that. But again, 174 00:10:31,519 --> 00:10:35,639 with time travel, you can just something change, you know. One monkey 175 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,120 sneezed and that changed. Everything can change a lot. I'm trying to think 176 00:10:39,159 --> 00:10:41,679 and when they have, when had the Matt Reeves trilogy, like before that 177 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,360 came out, was that announced as a trilogy of movies or that they were 178 00:10:45,399 --> 00:10:48,960 gonna do that. I think there is more of a belief that when they 179 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,279 did two that three was pretty much a guarantee. But I think the with 180 00:10:52,519 --> 00:10:56,879 Rise, it was let's see if the appetite's there, and then it was 181 00:10:56,919 --> 00:11:00,840 a success that kept going. But even in that first one and Rise on 182 00:11:00,919 --> 00:11:07,879 the news, they show a video of the fucking they show a video of 183 00:11:07,919 --> 00:11:11,720 the astronauts leaving Earth, so those but that could be this female astronaut, 184 00:11:11,799 --> 00:11:15,200 right Taylor, because the timeline, so that could be that astronaut that lab 185 00:11:15,279 --> 00:11:18,600 I mean, like, just look at her clothing. That's not very Mark 186 00:11:18,639 --> 00:11:22,279 Wahlberg from two thousand and three. Yeah, yeah, wearing like the the 187 00:11:22,519 --> 00:11:26,240 everyone else is wearing like the yeah, the garbage animal stuff. And she's 188 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:31,519 wearing pants tank top like she's an astronaut, I'm telling you. And they 189 00:11:31,519 --> 00:11:33,639 didn't show her speaking the trailer too. That would be the big giveaway too. 190 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,519 So oh man, I think they're saving it man, that's no. 191 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,440 They're just saying, oh, now you got me too. High watcher. 192 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:45,960 Her just be from some colony and she's just smart but more interested now like 193 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:50,279 I obviously on this retro, but I even just hearing more about what goes 194 00:11:50,279 --> 00:11:54,399 on in these movies, like the older ones. Oh you don't even know, 195 00:11:54,519 --> 00:11:58,000 man, there's superpowers get put in there. There's some good stuff and 196 00:11:58,039 --> 00:12:01,960 bad stuff. But it's gonna say though, the only thing that I wonder 197 00:12:03,279 --> 00:12:07,720 to go against that is in the original plan the apes Taylor landing there. 198 00:12:07,879 --> 00:12:09,440 Taylor for pill I don't know is also the name of the astronaut that Charli 199 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,000 the Heston plays. He lands there and it shows the monkeys that okay, 200 00:12:13,159 --> 00:12:16,799 humans could speak, and they had thought, and they had all this power 201 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,519 before. And we've been lied to clearly. A lot of the apes know 202 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:24,120 that the humans had power before, right, So that's what I'm wondering. 203 00:12:24,399 --> 00:12:26,679 Would the astronaut landing shift any dynamics right now because they knew, Hey, 204 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,639 we used to be in cages, they had all the like he says, 205 00:12:30,639 --> 00:12:33,399 they could fly like eagle. So what would it change to the astronauts landing 206 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:37,679 right now because they know humans were smart. Let me see if I can 207 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:41,440 recall this, because yeah, you have so many different landmarks and so many 208 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:46,120 different pieces of evidence of humanity. And then this character which I'm assuming, 209 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:52,039 I'm pretty confident that his name's Magiver, the Loggiver is the same character, 210 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:56,879 which actually we're gonna meet him in a war or conquest upon of the Apes 211 00:12:56,919 --> 00:13:03,399 the next retro we do for that basically battle for battle for thank you. 212 00:13:03,519 --> 00:13:11,480 Yeah, So they're they're it's tricky and kind of convoluted how they're portraying this 213 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:15,919 story because I feel like, well, yes, the Lawgiver is the one 214 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:20,279 narrating, and he's talking about how evolution and humanity was all this different stuff, 215 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,879 But then you don't really see the other apes engaging in that and talking 216 00:13:22,879 --> 00:13:26,960 about it. And I'm wondering, we get a scenario where Lawgiver is talking 217 00:13:28,159 --> 00:13:31,039 telling our character like about something that happened in the past, and this happened 218 00:13:31,039 --> 00:13:35,360 like, you know, a few hundred years ago or something along those lines, 219 00:13:35,399 --> 00:13:39,799 but you also have Lawgiver and then not just Lawgiver but Nora that's what 220 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:46,159 you said the apes, So you have Noah also talking about how like discovering 221 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,559 the truth and trying to figure some things out. So I mean, like 222 00:13:48,799 --> 00:13:54,159 it seems like the truth is definitely kept under the rap under wraps, and 223 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,759 even more so with the fact, like why are they so interested in this 224 00:13:56,799 --> 00:14:00,879 girl? She can she's more smarter than the other humans. Humans exist in 225 00:14:00,879 --> 00:14:03,759 this world, for sure, but this woman is much more intelligent. Okay, 226 00:14:03,759 --> 00:14:07,159 why are they trying to hunt her? And the king likes whatever. 227 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:11,919 Proximus Caesar is the played by Kevin Durant, who is a known actor, 228 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,840 so he's good. But yeah, Proximous Caesar. So even he's talking, 229 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:20,159 I think he says something to because they say, like apes kill humans or 230 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:24,879 apes hunt humans, shouldn't be like apes together. Strong apes need to change, 231 00:14:24,879 --> 00:14:28,200 and he's he is like, no, we need to, we need 232 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:33,519 to snuff this. So yeah, lots of stuff moving around super micsas his 233 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:35,879 levels at one hundred ten percent. I'm trigued to see how they incorporate the 234 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,279 legacy of Caesar and hell be twisted and corrupted by this king, which happens, 235 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,320 that's all planned the apes, right, is they take just Caesar just 236 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:48,960 becomes like anything they could very much what I'm sure people view God as right 237 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:52,440 or some people view God or the Bible twisted in many ways however you want 238 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,679 to take it. That's what the apes do with Caesar. They just take 239 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,840 his legacy and like, oh, he meant this and he meant this. 240 00:14:56,919 --> 00:15:00,320 It's like they probably don't refer to him being raised by humans and all this 241 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,159 stuff. They just take it as like a don't kill it, and we 242 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,399 hate the humans, you know. So yeah, all of good stuff going 243 00:15:05,399 --> 00:15:07,960 on. Right, Let's take our probably last ad break and then we'll be 244 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:16,000 back with some more trailers and we're back, so Wicked. Any thoughts on 245 00:15:16,519 --> 00:15:20,200 Wicked, mister muss, get any what's your history with Wizard of Oz? 246 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:24,279 Oh? My god? So me and MUDs went on a walk earlier today 247 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:28,519 and I was telling her about what trailers had come out and we were going 248 00:15:28,559 --> 00:15:33,440 to talk about on the podcast, and we could not remember what the Wizard 249 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,279 of Oz was. We were like, man, like, we know what 250 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:39,200 the movie is, we know Yellow Girl, Wicked. We could not think 251 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,399 of the name. It was like really a trip on its own. We 252 00:15:41,519 --> 00:15:45,919 never we never did remember what it was. So now now but that then 253 00:15:45,919 --> 00:15:48,679 it's back. That's good to have that back in my in my mind here. 254 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,559 But uh yeah, I remember watching the movie a lot as a kid. 255 00:15:52,559 --> 00:15:54,320 It was one of those like favorites in my household for whatever reason, 256 00:15:54,879 --> 00:15:58,799 classic Dellan fashion not when I ever revisited, so I haven't watched it a 257 00:15:58,799 --> 00:16:03,879 million years. But I didn't really know anything about this this trailer going in, 258 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,200 but I thought this looked really cool. I like the setting of it. 259 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:11,720 I think the world building element potentially is my favorite thing here where it's 260 00:16:12,039 --> 00:16:17,879 you know, steampunk would be the aesthetic, and steampunk is really compelling because 261 00:16:17,879 --> 00:16:22,120 it is kind of that mix between fantasy and sci fi, right, Like 262 00:16:22,159 --> 00:16:26,519 finding that in between and the way in which this trailer and like establishing this 263 00:16:26,559 --> 00:16:30,559 world as being that real midpoint of those two things is really engaging to me. 264 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,360 Like you had like that green train that looked really cool, of like 265 00:16:33,399 --> 00:16:38,000 this giant like steampunk machine face thing, just all the tech I thought was 266 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,120 really cool in this city. So I don't really know if I have much 267 00:16:41,159 --> 00:16:44,440 to say on like the story, and there was nothing really there or the 268 00:16:44,519 --> 00:16:47,840 characters that stood out to me in a big way, but just the world 269 00:16:47,879 --> 00:16:52,600 building element alone seemed really compelling. So I was kind of surprised I came 270 00:16:52,639 --> 00:16:53,600 out of this being like, I kind of want to watch this at some 271 00:16:53,639 --> 00:16:56,960 point. Am I gonna go to the theaters for it? I don't know, 272 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:02,960 but I'm I'm intrigued for this. You liked Wonka and don't forget this 273 00:17:03,039 --> 00:17:04,920 is another musical that they're hiding, so you could like to go. I 274 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:10,640 mean, maybe that's my new pocket, just fantasy adjacent to hidden musicals. 275 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,759 That's maybe my new favorite genre. That are prequels as well. This is 276 00:17:12,759 --> 00:17:17,319 a prequel about the Witches and how they split off or something like that. 277 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:22,279 So damn that too. There's a lot of connectivity here. Big pocket for 278 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,559 you. Yeah, No, I was the same. I really have no 279 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,160 so I have weird like I like. I like Wizard of Oz. I 280 00:17:29,559 --> 00:17:33,119 definitely understand why it's so big and like one of the most classic films because 281 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:34,279 it did a lot of things right. So I haven't watched a good minute, 282 00:17:34,279 --> 00:17:37,079 but it's not what I have to go back to a lot. The 283 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,839 one I really like, and I see s pubs in the chat we've boughte 284 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:45,440 over. I love, absolutely love Oz the Great and Powerful that Sam Raimi 285 00:17:45,519 --> 00:17:48,680 directed. A couple of years ago. I went through Emily gave me so 286 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,039 much shit. I went through like a couple of months span of anytime I 287 00:17:52,079 --> 00:17:53,279 was going to bed, that was the movie I put on. I actually 288 00:17:53,319 --> 00:17:56,960 fell asleep to last night, but I just kept rewatching this movie over and 289 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,680 over. I don't do that so much. There was a time table might 290 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:03,359 appreci where I just watch like I pronounce you, Chuck and Larry, like 291 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:07,680 for months on end. Like I used to just have a movie. That's 292 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:08,759 why when people say, oh, you've seen The Dark Night a hundred times, 293 00:18:08,759 --> 00:18:11,119 I contantly say, like, yes, I would just put it on 294 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:15,039 and it would just play in the house for a month, and they'd be 295 00:18:15,079 --> 00:18:18,680 like, oh, this part. So I like the world and the concept, 296 00:18:18,799 --> 00:18:22,200 and there's something about this. I'm not sold on Grande yet as an 297 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,039 actress. From what I've seen in the few little things like Scream Queens and 298 00:18:25,039 --> 00:18:27,319 stuff, seems like she might be a little wooden, but everyone else around 299 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,000 her is good. I like the world to the most part. Yeah, 300 00:18:30,079 --> 00:18:34,079 there's a lot of cgi but and I guess people because people were compared to 301 00:18:34,079 --> 00:18:37,720 the Raimy one that I agree, the rain one looked like had a bit 302 00:18:37,799 --> 00:18:41,359 more color. But this is just like a certain This is a certain like 303 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,200 I understand why some people might look at the trailer not like the cgi type 304 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,160 of coloring it has, but it's not enough to take me out of it 305 00:18:48,319 --> 00:18:51,240 or dislike, get off the way till I see the actual movie, and 306 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:55,319 I'll actually have to wade and see it. I don't know if this is 307 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,279 one I will see in theaters because it is a musical and that is always 308 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:02,200 like a stop point for me. And they are hiding it again because it's 309 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:03,400 at the end there where you know, they sing a little bit. But 310 00:19:04,039 --> 00:19:07,319 this gotta be someone intrigued. And I think maybe I just got to return 311 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,319 to the original Wizard of Oz and maybe I'm just a bigger fan of that 312 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,200 world than I give it credit for, you know, because it just seems 313 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:18,599 that I like that I, you know, gleam towards so yeah, and 314 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,799 I guess I don't I know that there's a whole play about that I've never 315 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,279 thought of, like why these two witches start this rivalry? But sure, 316 00:19:25,319 --> 00:19:27,480 I'm down to see what's going on. And oh, this is the thing 317 00:19:27,519 --> 00:19:30,680 I did not know at all that Jeff Golden was playing the Wizard. Holy 318 00:19:30,799 --> 00:19:37,680 shit, that's like that's really fun, Like that's like perfect casting of like 319 00:19:37,759 --> 00:19:41,440 the con artist who tricks everybody Jeff gold Like, when I saw that, 320 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,279 my hype maybe it was just Golden alone got my hype up. So I'm 321 00:19:45,319 --> 00:19:49,400 looking really forward to that. So, uh, mister Field, what about 322 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:55,160 you? Yeah, I I just like you, Dylan, and I grew 323 00:19:55,279 --> 00:20:00,440 up watching this movie. It was just one of those staples. I've Halloween 324 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,839 where my dad dressed up as the Wicked Witch of the West, like full 325 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,119 one hundred percent spot on. And it's ironic because you'd tell me when he 326 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:12,599 was little that character used to terrify him and the monkeys too. But it's 327 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:18,279 just such a it's such a great film. I I need to rewatch it. 328 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,680 And Oz are great and powerful. I enjoyed going to that world. 329 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,279 I really liked how colorful it was and just seeing how they they tackle kind 330 00:20:25,279 --> 00:20:26,640 of a little bit more of the Baxter of the characters. But I just 331 00:20:26,759 --> 00:20:30,119 I love the the og. I feel like it's just it's it's wonderful. 332 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:34,119 I love Scarecrow. He's definitely about the return of Return to Oz for the 333 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:41,119 Whiz, I think I've seen the thumbnails for that never come. Apparently Return 334 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,839 to Oz is like a really fucked up scary movie. Like maybe made like 335 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,319 unintentionally. And I've actually never seen The Wiz, despite me being a big 336 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:52,960 Michael Jackson fan of his music specifically never seen The Whiz. But I hear 337 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:57,880 good things. This looks pretty interesting actually, and I feel like it's it's 338 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:02,839 just to see see the certain sequences in this trailer. It just sounds it 339 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:07,200 just seems like a visual spectacle and I'm kind of I'm kind of like driving 340 00:21:07,279 --> 00:21:07,920 with it and I kind of want to give it a go. I didn't 341 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,720 have really any hype before. I know it's a play, right yeah, 342 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:17,079 Fair Broadway, very famous Broadway play, So I did not have any any 343 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,400 interest at all beforehand. I know I heard it, I heard it being 344 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:23,039 adapted, but I wasn't keen on it. Seeing the trailer, it's definitely 345 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,960 motivated me enough to want to buy a ticket and put me into a theater 346 00:21:26,079 --> 00:21:33,000 seat. So oh look at that alright. And finally for the trailer's Knuckles 347 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:37,880 Taylor starting knuckles. Oh man, this uh, this is really really speaking 348 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,480 my language. I'm I was. I I was caught off guard when they 349 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:45,160 announced the Knuckles show a long time ago. It definitely like makes you think, 350 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,759 like, what the heck but here we are. We got the trailer, 351 00:21:48,839 --> 00:21:52,799 and the humor is up my alley. When you get that very seriousness 352 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,279 that that Knuckles this is a character, and you have just the innocent humor. 353 00:21:56,839 --> 00:21:59,640 I was just surrounded. I watched the trailer like the day that it 354 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,720 dropped. I can't remember any specific humorous moments, and I wish I could. 355 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,319 I should have watched it. But you watched Deadpool hundred times, but 356 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:15,720 you couldn't. I watched deadpo that wig. But it's just the the there's 357 00:22:15,759 --> 00:22:22,640 certain things that Knuckles does just by portraying this blunt ignorance to the situation and 358 00:22:22,599 --> 00:22:27,599 just totally devoid of how fragile certain humans could be in these characters. I 359 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:32,680 do. I do it is, and so I like the idea of just 360 00:22:32,759 --> 00:22:36,119 kind of like touching back down on Robotanek, having the guy that worked for 361 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,559 him and just the tech and just going to town with with Knuckles. It 362 00:22:38,599 --> 00:22:42,279 just looks like it's gonna be a really fun show. I'm so on board 363 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,000 for it, and I'm glad that we're getting it uh soon. And I 364 00:22:45,039 --> 00:22:48,559 think it's gonna be a great setup for Sonic three. I think that a 365 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,480 lot of kids are probably gonna be excited when they watch the show, and 366 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,240 just like driving with it and the parents, this is something for the parents 367 00:22:55,279 --> 00:22:56,359 too, because the parents will watch the show at home with the kids and 368 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:02,079 yeah, okay, let's let's let's go see so three. Uh yeah, 369 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,960 So I'm I'm all for anything that's gonna help put some extra dollars in my 370 00:23:06,079 --> 00:23:08,839 draft pick this year, right right, I forgot that's why you're pulling for 371 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:18,200 that. Yeah. I didn't dislike it. I did. I'll say it 372 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,680 was above average of what I thought it was gonna be. It didn't look 373 00:23:21,839 --> 00:23:25,839 painful. I think there's some instances in the movies that the Songic movies can 374 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:30,319 be painful. But maybe I'm just gonna enjoy the Knuckles character more. I 375 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,720 think with having IROs Evil's voice there in some of those situations, I think 376 00:23:33,759 --> 00:23:36,599 a lot of these human characters are gonna annoy the shit at I mean though, 377 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:37,880 so that's what's really annoying, and that just happens the whole time. 378 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,880 So I enjoyed it. Like I said, I think me being on the 379 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,440 reviews like a fifty to fifty all depends when I watch it. Because the 380 00:23:44,559 --> 00:23:47,519 kids like Sonics. I'll watch it then, but yeah, seemed like there 381 00:23:47,559 --> 00:23:51,440 could be something there. I'll say, like what Aspos said, I'm surprised 382 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,799 how much of like Sonic and tails and stuff in it. So I like, 383 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,960 that's not just kind of like, well, let's just do some knuckles, 384 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,640 have them do someone off the side. Looks like it is pretty connected 385 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,680 to the the world if you like that already, and I'm sure kids will. 386 00:24:02,759 --> 00:24:06,960 So yeah, I can't say I enjoyed it, but I didn't like, 387 00:24:07,079 --> 00:24:08,799 Oh, this looks awful, so somewhere, like I said in the 388 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,759 middle, for me, so nice. Yeah, I don't think I have 389 00:24:14,039 --> 00:24:17,240 much to add here. I'm not a Sonic guy. I haven't seen any 390 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,559 of those movies. This didn't sell me to want to watch the show. 391 00:24:19,599 --> 00:24:22,960 I think it's for the people who are into this. I think it's a 392 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:26,920 really good trailer. I think the effects look all great, which we wonder 393 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:30,559 how that'd be in a TV show where they have more Uh, I don't 394 00:24:30,559 --> 00:24:33,400 know, more screen time overall, but maybe less budget. How that's gonna 395 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,880 work out. But it seems like it looks solid. Characters seem like they're 396 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,519 for that audience. Is gonna be great. The humors, all that yes, 397 00:24:40,799 --> 00:24:42,599 the action all that, but it's just not my just not my bag. 398 00:24:42,759 --> 00:24:48,079 So I'm happy for you all that are getting this, uh this show 399 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:49,559 in this universe and a third movie. You're just getting all this content. 400 00:24:49,559 --> 00:24:53,119 It's awesome. So yeah, they're they're tripling down on the Sonic. It's 401 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,880 working out for them. So yeah, this comes out April twenty six. 402 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:00,920 It's a classic six episode event, you know, hold on the Disney the 403 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,720 Disney card there, so yeah, at least Taylor and Kirklan will be revealing 404 00:25:03,759 --> 00:25:07,799 those. Of course it's on the fucking Friday, so it's I'm not sure 405 00:25:07,799 --> 00:25:11,640 if you've seen the schedule too. I did update for you in Kirkland. 406 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:17,559 It is looking like a Kirkla he's the son of God. There's no way, 407 00:25:17,759 --> 00:25:22,079 like I don't know that'd be like me missing like the Wolverine show or 408 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:23,559 something. And even though it was like Wolverine party, like, there's no 409 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,119 way he's not. I thought he'd be there for for Halo, but you 410 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,799 know he's well I told you and be there for Halo and all we're back, 411 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:37,680 but like cause like the problem is Halo or Fallout and Knuckles are like 412 00:25:37,559 --> 00:25:41,079 together, like we're getting Faults on the Thursday, the Knuckles on the Friday, 413 00:25:41,519 --> 00:25:44,440 and that has to do with like, I don't know if I haven't 414 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,119 seen Civil War, but like fall guys out at the same time, it's 415 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:52,720 Strangers chapter one, so there's gonna be some furiosays out episode five Knuckles, 416 00:25:52,759 --> 00:25:55,039 So there's gonna have to be some juggling done by you two if you guys 417 00:25:55,079 --> 00:25:56,880 are doing that. So I put in the calendar, but yeah, it's 418 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:03,599 a stack a little April March there. So what does he say, Uh, 419 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:07,359 conundrum, that's a bad. Episodes are gonna be like, what like 420 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,759 thirty minutes each. I was just gonna say that, Yeah, they have 421 00:26:11,839 --> 00:26:14,519 to. They're probably pretty short, so you might be okay, watch them 422 00:26:14,559 --> 00:26:17,640 just be the longest hour and a half each, just like that John Wick 423 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,079 series whatever it was, two hour episodes. Yeah,