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Norris. All right, so we're
gonna do a three two one on this

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because lately Rumble has been clipping the
front end of my videos for no reason.

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It just I don't know why the
reason, it's just sometimes it starts

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about a few seconds after I've started
talking. But let's get going here.

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I'm very pleased right now and very
fortunate to welcome Decode. That's his name

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on Instagram, and also you'll find
him on Rumble. His name is Greg

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Romero. And I'm gonna read to
you what he sent me, and then

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we're gonna go from there. So
where it says, it says here to

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give you a brief summary of who
I am. I was born and raised

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in a small town called Espanola,
New Mexico. Espanola is translated to Little

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Spain, and is where my great
great great et Cetera and grandfather her Nann

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excuse me, Cortes settled this town
and seeded my bloodline here. Our bloodline

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has has had significant influence on that
region of America and was deeply entangled with

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the Roman Catholic Church and the occult. My dad's side of the family descends

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from the livitical priestcraft and my mom's
side descends from an ancient magical order.

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My family has been commissioned by the
government several times to specific contracts at the

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highest clearance levels. Those things I
have to be careful discussing. But I

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was raised witnessing things of high strangeness. I like that term. I personally

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was initiated into the occult when I
was six years old and rejected God and

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religion. Factions within my family were
involved with organized crime, including me.

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When I was a young, teenager
and adult, I experienced I experienced sa

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tanic ritual abuse, animal sacrifice,
summoning rituals, et cetera, and ultimately

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overdosed in two thousand and five and
experienced cardiac erect arrest for the second time

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in my life. Excuse me one
second. This experience changed me in ways

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I cannot describe. It essentially brought
on my awakening, and I've been searching

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for the truth since then. I
believe I found it, and so I'm

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just writing the frequency to see where
it takes me. That's where you're meeting

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me now, Greg. Welcome to
the show Man. Thank you, Thank

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you for having me. I'm happy
to be here, grateful, So I

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mean, that's a that's quite a
story. Now. When we were talking

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on Instagram, you had mentioned a
conquistador lineage as well, right, Yes,

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what I think of when I when
I hear that and when I you

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know, hear the roots in Spain, and I'm assuming right that there could

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also be a Jesuit influence in this, if not a Sephardic type of lineage

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as well, where they were coming
over here or becoming conversos and then becoming

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conquista doors, which a lot of
people don't realize that a lot of the

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conquista doors were Converso Jews, and
that's so they would be taking the Kabbala

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and the Sufi mystic mysticism and all
that with them. That's right, That's

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right, all right, So would
you care to describe that to us and

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where that Yeah, No, it's
I'm you know, I'm and this is

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why I'm really this is why I'm
really really excited to have a conversation with

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you specifically because you know, I
really respect the knowledge that you have of

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history behind the narrative, and you
know, being in the environment that I

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grew up in, it was a
very dual, dualistic type of view.

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On the world and the way that
they constructed it. And so the fact

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that you know that history some of
those things that like has taken me and

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my uncle years of researching the genealogy
of ancestry and how those you know coincide.

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I was very knowledge from a very
young age of who I really was,

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except that last part. You know, this last part finding out about

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us being connected to as conquistadors,
the Sephardic Jews specifically, that's significant in

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what we're seeing going on in the
world today. So yeah, and a

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lot of people don't catch that,
and it's really quite a shame because when

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you look back at all the Spanish
people that look what they did to the

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Native Americans, and it's like,
well, it's kind of the same group

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of people doing it to every indigenous
people everywhere. And they're all riddled into

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the Roman Catholic Church. And we've
discussed before how you know, Jacob Frank

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he had himself baptized and twenty six
thousand of his followers got into the Roman

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Catholic chur and the Christian Brethrens.
His brother in law started the Asiatic Brethren,

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which was basically an Illuminati branch.
I mean it was. It was

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carrying on the same exact thing and
working with that a mysop. So,

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I mean, this is the same
route to just everything, and it seems

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like and what we're looking at when
it comes to Zionism, that's Frankism by

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a different name. And that's what
you know, where the bankers are,

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you know, basically destroying Gaza right
now, because that's part of the that's

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part of their plan to bring about
what they want right right exactly, No,

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exactly, And you know, my
search into finding out the truth of

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who I am as far as my
identity, uh, you know, I

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you know, I come from a
place where I had an identity crisis since

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I was born, you know,
Like I mentioned in some of our previous

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back and forth on Instagram also that
my mom, or on my dad's side,

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is more of the Spaniard and my
mom is more Native American, you

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know, so I'm a mix of
the two. Right. So I have

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these two different stories that were told
by two different groups of people, you

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know, one group being the Spaniards
side of my family. And I was

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taught and raised that it was a
noble thing, that they were noble things

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that they were doing, and they
would parade in the streets and they would

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have these rituals in the streets,
and I never it was really kind of

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weird because they would go into procession, and you know, ever since I

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was a young age, I can
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I would just ask a lot of
questions as to like why are they doing

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this ritual or why why are they
doing this procession around the city. Why

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do they do it seven times?
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a little bit of a ritualistic dance
and then they'll you know, shout out

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some kind of a name, usually
the name of the Cuquista word that came

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through and conquered that land. So
where I come from, it was really

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really culture rich in hanging on to
how important it was that the Spaniards specifically

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came up through the Sea of Cortez
all throughout that area to conquer the Aztecs

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and all those people and really proclaim, you know, a large portion of

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what is now North America then as
the Empire of Spain. Right, And

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so there's a whole you know,
there's a whole thing behind it with that

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empirical thinking of you know, being
a special group of people. If does

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that make sense? Yeah, it
does. And you know, I wanted

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to touch on this real quick,
is that when you mentioned the seven that's

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how many times they circle the kaba
in Mecca too. And that's allegedly to

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represent the seven rings of Saturn.
That's not what they say. They say

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that's something different now. But back
when that kaba was first created, it

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was a cube. I mean it
still is a black cube, and that's

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the symbol of Saturn too. And
here's the thing is, I think a

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lot of people, most people maybe
when they reflect back on their life,

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they think mom and dad. I
mean like when you imprint when you're born,

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right, and if you never know
any other thing, anything that you're

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experiencing would be cold, would be
turned into what's normal. Yeah. And

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so when you have a different experience, when you know that trust is broken,

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when you're you know, witnessing things, if you never had that that

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tether or that foundation in the line
of care and compassion and love, how

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does that, you know, alter
your course in life too? I mean

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what to what you would then carry
on yourself? Because if it's basically they

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don't they don't spare their children the
same programming In fact, it's even more

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so because they want you to carry
this on and the best way to do

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that is to indoctrinate and mind program
you to do so, right, right,

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And if I could just comment,
well said, if I can comment

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on the tail end there when you
say indoctrination, like, I don't really

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I don't, I really don't think
that people truly understand what that word means.

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You know, they're indoctrinated, right, It's it's like you said,

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it's impressed upon them since they were
since they just came out of the womb,

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to perceive a distorted reality because you
know, in the realm, you

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know. And I'm sure we'll get
into this a little bit later. But

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in my growing up in this duality
of occult and religion, okay, which

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they're technically both the same thing,
I'm just gonna say that, Okay,

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my opinion now is there is really
nothing else but the occult, you know,

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But that's just that's a different conversation
for maybe for a different day.

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Yeah, you don't have that either. We're right, right, so,

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but but so therefore, therefore,
since we are all technically influenced by the

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occult, there's no getting away from
it a truth has been hidden from us

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for ever. Then it would be
easy then to capture you at a young

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age and indoctrinate you know you know, and keep you and keep you believing

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a certain narrative when it may actually
not be the truth. You know,

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because we when when I was learning
in my recovery, where I was going

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with this is in my recovery,
one of the things that helped me really

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kind of break free from especially the
PTSD because of that abuse was the fact

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that what I perceive is my reality. Because by the time I got to

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be age twenty one, I had
such a distorted perception that my reality was

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horrific, right, And because my
reality was horrific, I couldn't come to

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terms with the things that I had
witnessed done and you know, passed on

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that I didn't know how to cope
with myself or the world. But but

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when I realized that I had the
choice to change my perception and to take

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control of who I am, you
know, what I want and where I'm

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going, and realize that there is
literally nothing that can make me think,

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feel, or act in any given
way but myself. When I came to

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that realization, That's when I believe
was my first uh, you know,

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my first awakening to understand, you
know what, I'm in control of my

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reality. And I think that if
more people were to understand that, then

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I think that we can actually quite
possibly awaken from our awakening. Like you

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know, I heard you say in
another podcast. I'm not sure if that's

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making sense, but no, it
is. It does. It does absolutely.

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And that's like that manifest thing too, because self doubt, all those

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things that are put it. You
put your own limitations on, but you

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feel like it's coming from the outside
because the impression that's being given all around

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you is that there's dramatic limitations on
you and what you could accomplish. So

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it's in spiritually, mentally, physically, business wise, all those things.

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It's like the impression that you're given
is that it's only for the select and

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you're not the You're not in the
game, you know, right. But

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what I was what I was also
looking at, is I mean just just

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really relationships everyone I've known that,
and I've have friends that I've gone through

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satanic ritual abuse and it's impossible for
them and has been, and I mean

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they've gone through their attempts at recovery
and things like that, but it's impossible

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for them to have like a lasting
relationship with anybody because just even this so

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much like the tenderness is almost sometimes
foreign to them, and it's like it

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challenges them to have to like perceive
something that they're not used to as well.

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And then then they could also become
the aggressor at times too. I've

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noticed, not all the time,
but they might be pushing people away or

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something like that too. Well,
it's very sorry to me to interrupt you,

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but always yeah, yeah, please, so yeah, I mean again,

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you know again, I'm impressed with
your knowledge of this because in my

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experience through the Satanic ritual abuse that
I went through, it's called like soul

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fracturing. So they fracture your soul
from a very young age and they break

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you like your identity is broken.
They want you to disassociate with your identity

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and it creates like for me,
it created a split in you know.

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You know, I don't know how
explicit I'm going to get here, but

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you know what I had to go
through in my ritual it was embarrassing on

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every fiber of my being, Like
it broke me in a way that that

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was the impression, you know,
like they somehow knew that in my spiritual

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or whatever, you know, growth
path, that they knew at what,

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at what moment to disrupt the alchemic
vibrations in my body two not come together

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properly, you know that I would
always feel like lost and broken apart,

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and for me when I was abused
so early, because you know, being

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abused so early, and the abuse
actually started before I was six. The

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initiation was actually when I was six, but you know, I started being

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abused when I was like, you
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leading up to it, it was
a path. It was a series of

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I can just say, I don't
know all I can think about. It's

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like a shattering, you know,
your identity completely shattered, and I didn't

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know who I was, and so
then I get imprinted upon to believe that

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I was just meant to be a
living sacrifice. You know, I don't

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know, I don't know if I
can if that's kind of you know,

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going too far. I'm just I'm
expressing, I know, right, and

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because I mean they technically are doing
that by a comment during your life,

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they are you are the rituals the
living sacrifice. And then it's like who

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better than your parents who know you
the best to you know, assess you

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and profile you and personality profile you, to know what your weaknesses are so

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that they can push those buttons.
Well, you know, and I do

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want to clarify one thing, you
know. I do want to clarify one

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thing is you know my parents,
you know, they they were a place

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of safety for me and protection.
Okay, so it wasn't the parents,

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Yeah, no, no, no, no, So yeah, I want

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so it wasn't my parents that were
doing this. No, this was extended

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family. And you know, I
have to be I have to be careful

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here because you know, this is
this is territory where you know, it

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can make things in my life uncomfortable. Right, but you know his extended

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family. Actually, my I will
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My dad was the first one who
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my father, every male and my
priests has been we were talking about you

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know, we're talking about an email
about the the king priests, right,

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and that so like my father and
that lion descends from king priests, and

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so every patriarch in my family,
including my dad was born into like I

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heard you talk about in some of
your previous episodes, being more born into

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these things. And he was born
into the priest craft. So he was

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actually supposed to be a priest.
But when he was sixteen, he had

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a spiritual awakening and he broke away
from the church. Do you think it

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was he Oh yeah, no,
he definitely was. I mean, I

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mean, I'm not going to disclose
anything that he's gone through, right no,

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but I mean this is coming from
the Roman Catholic. This is coming

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from the Roman Catholic Church. Yes, right, That's what I wanted to

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make sure that I was picking up
on that properly, that the Roman Catholic

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And so we're grooming him and right, So so to give you to give

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you that backstory a little bit.
So when my dad, so he was

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the first one to break away,
and when he broke away, he was

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actually he was jumped. He was
he was physically jumped by his parents.

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So it was his mom and dad
and his siblings at the time wherever there

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were at the time, and they
literally jumped him and they beat him half

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to death. This is a true
story. They beat him half to death

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and they literally left him on the
side of the road for dead. It

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was my dad from his own family, what's that, from his own family,

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from his own family, and he
and he was found. He was

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found by this Pentecostal pastor that took
him in and you know, fixed him

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up and give him a place to
stay and essentially adopted him as a son,

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you know. And he was this. I mean, that's a different

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story for a differ day. I
don't want to go too much in the

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weeds on these stories here, take
too much of your time. But I'm

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just trying to provide context. Yah. Yeah, So my father met my

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mother. They knew each other in
high school. My mom was a teenager.

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They were both teenagers, and my
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church, the Catholic church on her
side and but on my mom's side is

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where the witchcraft, often the occultism
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my mom's grandmother, so my great
grandmother was involved, heavily involved in

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the occult and witchcraft. And this
is what I know of the story,

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that's public knowledge, so I can
share. This is what I know of

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the story, is that she was
my mom's grandma was tied to a stove

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in her kitchen by three witches and
burned alive in a sacrifice. And then

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after that the husband came out and
witnessed what was going on, and he

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went mentally insane and went to an
insane inside and it was taken away to

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an insane asylum the following day,
where he was then murdered that same day

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in the asylum. So this is
my mom's dad's mom and dad, and

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so he was only ten. My
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this happened. And it's not it's
not documented on paper. It's just this

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is just verbal you know, verbal
family history here. But like with the

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I've done more research on my dad's
side, but in the small amount I've

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done on my mom's side, it's
been I've been a little slow going at

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it because I'm more fearful of it
because you know, that's where I'm discovering

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involvement with the occult, and that's
where you know, I'm discovering that even

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like my birth, which you know
it was a mistake. My mom,

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my mom and dad you know,
could see me in a Yeah, they

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were teenagers having fun, and so
the families they were my pregnancy into the

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family. My mom and dad became
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different families, and from what I
understand, they weren't the friendliess to each

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other, like there was some enmity
between the two families. So my mom

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and my dad they got together,
and my pregnancy caused some kind of a

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big deal. My dad stepped away
from the church, my mom stepped away

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from the church, and they kind
of went off on their own. So

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we kind of isolated in this in
this spot, and my mom and dad

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tried their best to really kind of
keep me secure, but they were only

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teenagers, so they didn't have a
lot. You know, we were we

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were basically homeless, you know,
the first five years of my life,

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and you know, we had to
live off the land. You know,

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we took baths in the horse troughs
and we washed our clothes with washports,

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you know, and this is like
you know, eighties, early nineties,

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and you know, we lived very
very simply. Well, my grandfather,

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he he lived a different life and
in in a way, you know,

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he's still a lot I haven't you
know, I got to say, you

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know, despite everything, I love
him. I haven't talked to him.

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In over twenty years, I've completely
disassociated with my family and and uh,

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except for my mom and dad and
one or two maybe you know, one

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or two trusted relatives that I stay
connection with. Honestly, that's a lot

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for me to say, because you
know, a lot of these a lot

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of these family members, you know, they follow me online and they you

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know, they they see the information
that I'm coming out with and I think

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they're a little confused as to why
I'm doing it. But the reason why

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I'm doing it, to be completely
honest with you, is because that family

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crest that I showed you right that
simple you know, I'm learning that was

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essentially like a sigil, which is
a magic ritual to kind of seal a

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certain belief system in our family bloodline. Does that make sense. Yeah,

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I'm gonna pull that up in a
second here too. But yeah, and

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I noticed the two wolves on there. And this is what's interesting is that

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the Loyola family has in there from
Spain. Obviously, the according to some

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are Basque royalty, but they're Maranos. I mean that's what they are.

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And that was two wolves around a
cauldron. Is there is their symbol,

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So it's the same color scheme as
yours, and there's two wolves in it,

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just like I mean, that could
be Roman too because of the wolf,

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you know, luber Collia type thing
with the with the Romulus and Remus

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story. But you just show this
real quick and put this on the screen,

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so you see there's the two wolves
there and Romero on the bottom.

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I'm not really sure if it was
there supposed to be uh what they called

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man graef or what are they called
that. I don't know what those are

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on the outside, but they look
like oh on the side, yeah,

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yeah, that's what they called.
And then there it's Fangrief. And then

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there's rosemary, the little green plants
that you see along the in the gold

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that's called rosemary, okay. And
then the black and the red, I

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mean the black, red and yellow
that color symbology I'm sure you're familiar with.

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Yep, Yeah, that's it.
It's priestly uh priestly colors actually,

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yes, yes, absolutely negative of
that, yes, yeah, just about

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everything too. Black and red is
in all the occult and you see the

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gold bringing out at different times,
but not always all together unless they're representing

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it as such, like when they're
doing a crest or something. Yeah mm

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hmm. Yeah, so yeah,
thank you for showing that. That's amazing.

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But yeah, no, and then
other symbology too is that if you

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you know, if you kind of
look at it in a way, it

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kind of has that sephardic kind of
jew look with the hanging hair and you

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know, kind of a hat,
you know, the flatbill hat. You

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know, it kind of has a
symbology to of of different types of profiles

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that are in that in those specific
orders. But what I came down to

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an assumption was is that or what
I discovered is that that symbol was actually

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a sigil. It was a magic
ritual sigil that was done by the conquistadors,

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right, those Converisors and Moranos,
to establish this like secret code of

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like of what their family bloodline would
stand for. You know, like you

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said, the two wolves and the
cauldron, like that's that's that's huge with

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symbolic meaning to the family because you
know, with the things of high strangeness

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that I've witnessed, you know,
like I've experienced real summoning with rituals where

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you know, entities are summoned,
you know, and it's an experience I've

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witnessed it first hand. Yeah,
yeah, you know, it's it's really

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interesting because it is I mean,
like I mentioned before, right, a

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cult is hidden, and you know
in these in these cultural things, and

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again taking apart the word right,
cultural, that first part of that word

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is cult. In these in these
cultural areas, you know, you have

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all these you know, rituals that
are done for the sake of culture.

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But you know there are there are
a faction of people that really take those

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seriously and and and their real experiences. I have a couple of questions about

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because you know, when you think
old country, like even like in Italy,

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you think, okay, well,
I'm sure folk magic was part of

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their lives, you know, for
the peasantry and stuff like that. But

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when you describe what happened on your
mother's side, that's a whole other thing.

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And it seems like whoever these witches
were, they had people at the

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asylum already for your yeah, waiting. So it's one of those things where

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they're already everywhere in the high places
that they need to be in order to

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conceal and make sure that nothing leaks
out. Basically they can remain hidden.

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So that's that's another scary thing,
because I don't think if people understand how

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how these people blend into everything.
Like you know, your priests could be

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also doing some horrible things. Your
mayor could be doing horrible things. Your

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police officer could be doing horrible things. The guy next door who is a

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school teacher could be doing horrible things. And they would look absolutely normal to

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you until it's time for them to
switch. And when they do, there's

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no reasoning with them. There's deadness
in their eyes and they'll do whatever.

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You know and to have were those
three those three witches? Was any of

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those your great grandmother, well daughter
or no? So I know that from

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what I've been told is that my
my great grandmother was involved within the witchcraft.

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Right now, the reason why I
told you that on my dad's side

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I was in the priest craft and
my mom's side was in the witchcraft.

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I definitely believe that there was some
kind of an intermingling or a a co

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opetition, if you will, to
push a certain narrative. And I forget

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the second part of your your question, Oh was it? I asked if

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your mother was involved with the actual
burning? Oh, I don't believe were

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they were? They punishing her perhaps
rumor, the rumor that I the rumor

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that I've been told, and I
haven't verified this, but this is just

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what I've been told, is that
she was involved in these things, and

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it had been a generational, multi
generational thing, and like going way back,

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and and that my great grandmother wanted
to not do it, wanted to

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stop, and so in order for
it to stop, like she herself would

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have to be sacrificed. But that's
what I was told, But it it

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really kind of doesn't make sense to
me. What you know, what makes

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sense to me is I know that
there was three witches for sure, and

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after this occurred, then my grand
What the story is is that my grandfather

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that one of them witches came back
and they took in my grandfather as a

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guardian, you know, because his
parents were dead and in that in that

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area, in that time, you
know, in that place, you know,

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you have family names that are wiped
out. Especially during that time,

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you know, you were dealing with
land grants, you were dealing with fighting

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with the natives still in the area, You're dealing with all kinds of uh,

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you know, the Spanish Indian thing
going on in that area. You

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know, all that stuff. And
but when when his in his childhood,

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he was he was left alone.
So in that area, family was everything.

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Well, they took him in and
they settled in. They settled on

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top of a Native American graveyard.
Okay, So, and I'm sorry if

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I'm if I'm a little bit like
you know, you're doing great, man.

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You know this is you know,
like we talked about before the show,

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doing this memory recall, you know, in a way, in a

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way, I'm there. So forgive
me if I'm a little nervous when telling

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this part. And that's fine,
go ahead and say I'll hold. But

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I was gonna say for a second, yeah, okay, all right.

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So he so they settled on a
they settled, he was given land.

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He was given about eleven acres of
land and his houses at the top of

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this hill leading down to the Rio
Grande River. And on all three sides

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of him, we had these witches, these three witches. There was actually

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three female witches and one male witch. The male, the warlock, was

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killed in a crazy freak accident.
It's another story for a different day,

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but he was killed. I witnessed
that event happen. And there were three

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witches when I by the time I
became aware of my situation, I realized

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that they were living all around him, they circled him. And from my

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understanding, this is just an assumption, all right, just you know,

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the guy's still alive. So I'm
just I'm just assuming, just knowing who

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my grandfather is, that he was
having affairs with these women, m and

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and I think that that was going
on since he was ten because when when

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I was born, like he he
took special favor to me, like my

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family will tell you that. He
said that I was the blessed, the

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like the chosen one to carry the
torch for some reason. He would tell

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me like these weird things when I
was a kid. You know, I'm

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like to carry the torch torch for
what you know, like that has a

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lucive, very type of kind of
illumination. Yes, yes, the family

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heritage and legacy and all that stuff
too, right right, Yeah, So

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he saw that and so I you
know, I took to him and he

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held me close to him, so
you know, through him, I mean

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I was able to you know,
I met these witches. You know,

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when he was introduced in reducing me
into the craft, he showed me this

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upside down cross that had been carved
on his chest. And if I'm being

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a little too intense, let me
no, No, I think the more

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descriptions better, honestly. Yeah,
So you know he had this like upsid

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down cross on his chest and he
said that he had made some kind of

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a deal. I think he was
coerced, you know what I mean.

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I think I don't think it was
of his free choice. I mean,

408
00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:45.280
he was ten for crying out loud. But you know they had mentioned he

409
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:49.119
remember him telling me that as long
as he stayed loyal to them, that

410
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:54.559
that he would live live a long
life and you know, never be without

411
00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:58.800
and have many children. Well the
guy has, like you know, he's

412
00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:02.000
had five plus wives. He's had
over you know, twenty five children that

413
00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:07.119
I know of. I mean,
he's been you know, he's literally I've

414
00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:13.079
literally witnessed with my own eyes witnessed
him being shot, stabbed, drugged by

415
00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:15.400
a vehicle, dropped off a two
story building. I mean, like,

416
00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:21.960
this guy, literally, to me, has been indestructible. When I was

417
00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:25.480
this is when I was a kid, Okay, so I'm like, you

418
00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:30.920
know, five six years old witnessing
this guy like do like legit things of

419
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:37.760
high strangeness, and I'm like,
man, this guy's powerful. Wow,

420
00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:39.400
yeah, and where do you put
that? You know, like what do

421
00:35:39.480 --> 00:35:44.400
you put it up here? Right? And he would always tell me,

422
00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:49.519
you know, he would get like
he you know, he was so dualistic

423
00:35:49.679 --> 00:35:52.159
in his uh in who is who? Kneho he was? You know,

424
00:35:52.519 --> 00:36:00.599
he would when he was sober,
which was very rare, you know,

425
00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:02.320
he would he would come up and
tell me. He would say, he's

426
00:36:02.360 --> 00:36:07.000
like, you know, Jesus loves
you. Methough you say Jesus loves you

427
00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:15.000
hmm. But but then but then
when he was drunk he would tell me,

428
00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:19.599
and when he was on drugs,
and when he would tell me that

429
00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:30.719
Jesus love me. But don't let
myself be deceived by not knowing who I

430
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:36.039
really am. He says, I
know who I am. He would say,

431
00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:43.440
I know who I am, so
don't give yourself any basically kind of

432
00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:46.440
yeah, anyway, sorry, I'm
kind of going on a tangent there,

433
00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:51.480
But no, that's that's uh that
they're not going on a tangent. Actually

434
00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:55.239
it's good. Uh So when you're
talking about I'm assuming that there's some when

435
00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:59.559
you say Colton, you're talking about
this witchcraft. I'm trying to think in

436
00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:06.079
my mind names of cartel related these
days, but maybe not so much back

437
00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:09.280
then. But like, is it
Santa Moerte, Like what is I can't

438
00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:16.079
that that I can't honestly that I
can't disclose that has to be hidden just

439
00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:22.000
I mean, just just for legit
safety, okay, because you know,

440
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:28.519
I mean it's one thing to it
definitely is one thing to disclose and talk

441
00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:30.639
about this stuff because I mean it's
kind of hit mainstream right now, but

442
00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:37.360
you know there's still like very real
forces that run stuff, you know what

443
00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:42.159
I mean. So yeah, and
you also mentioned that they're into some organized

444
00:37:42.199 --> 00:37:45.599
crime and that you were involved in
that, so I mean it sounds like

445
00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:51.320
they might be cartel. Yeah,
it's it's basically linked. It's basically that.

446
00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:55.679
I mean, anything that you have, ah, well, what they

447
00:37:55.719 --> 00:38:00.880
see is like militia militia type you
know sells. You know, they'll they'll

448
00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:06.480
refer to that as organized crime,
you know, to them in their environment.

449
00:38:06.840 --> 00:38:08.599
I mean, if you if your
knowledge on organized crime or if you

450
00:38:08.599 --> 00:38:12.519
you know, if you watch shows
about you know, the mafia or the

451
00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:17.159
mob, like, they'll tell you
that you know, the communities. If

452
00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:20.480
you were to interview the communities,
the communities would be like, oh,

453
00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:22.119
yeah, no, they did good
things for the community, you know,

454
00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:28.760
but they also oppressed everybody. Yeah, what do you call it? Uh?

455
00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:34.400
What the hell is his name?
I cannot think of his name?

456
00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:40.639
Cuban or Columbia, pa Escobar.
He was loved and uh, because he

457
00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:45.280
was throwing a bunch of money back
at the community, bring weapon and stuff

458
00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:49.039
like that. But also father,
my grandfather became this type of character.

459
00:38:49.960 --> 00:38:53.199
Wow, you know he would have
he would have governors come and see him.

460
00:38:54.880 --> 00:38:58.880
It broke up a little bit.
What do you say? You know?

461
00:38:59.000 --> 00:39:01.840
He would sometimes he would have public
authorities come to him sometimes too.

462
00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:07.639
Oh, I mean he had friends
in high places. Yeah, that's a

463
00:39:08.199 --> 00:39:10.639
that's not me. He would be
able to he would be able to go

464
00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:16.280
to jail, like I would see
him break havoc on I mean just wreak

465
00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:24.000
havoc on the city and go to
jail thinking, Okay, this is it.

466
00:39:24.119 --> 00:39:27.679
He's finally going to get locked up, and he's out the next day

467
00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:32.599
and find out he's you know,
having lunch with you know, someone important.

468
00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:37.199
Yeah that's multi layer too, because
there was other people in high places

469
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:43.079
could have more than one reason for
doing that influenced not just so much pressure,

470
00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:45.119
but influence because they might be involved
in the same type of thing,

471
00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:49.559
you know, and they're just taking
care of their own right. And that

472
00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:52.840
could be multi level too. It
could be the crime level, it could

473
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:54.920
be the cult level, it could
be both, you know, right,

474
00:39:58.800 --> 00:40:00.639
yeah, you know, and that
and that and that's the thing, you

475
00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:04.920
know, that's you know when people
talk about you know, when people talk

476
00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:08.280
about you know, and when I
talk you know, I'm talking from my

477
00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:20.760
experience of having like really deep religion
and scripture as my reference for how I

478
00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:30.679
use words. So like in talking
about like the in talking about the indoctrination

479
00:40:31.199 --> 00:40:38.440
and people being deceived in you know, in that religion, there's like the

480
00:40:38.519 --> 00:40:42.639
great deception, right, they say
that there's going to be a great deception,

481
00:40:43.159 --> 00:40:47.960
that the enemy is going to deceive
the entire world. Okay, Christianity

482
00:40:49.719 --> 00:40:52.760
too, right, Well, that
deception, there's actually a deception of the

483
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:57.079
deception, because wasn't there I think
there was a couple of episodes you did

484
00:40:57.679 --> 00:41:00.239
where either you or the host you
or the other guests you had on we're

485
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:05.559
talking about awakening from the Awakening.
Yeah, that was with Howdie McCaskey.

486
00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:09.519
Yeah. Yeah, So I mean
that kind of like using that and then

487
00:41:09.719 --> 00:41:15.880
using like that movie inception with Leonardo
DiCaprio, like the dream within a dream.

488
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:21.239
Yeah right, because so even this
like putting too much emphasis on that

489
00:41:21.400 --> 00:41:23.400
being real is also part of keeping
you in the system and keeping you in

490
00:41:23.480 --> 00:41:27.480
the in the lock of the cage, right right, right, yeah,

491
00:41:28.280 --> 00:41:31.320
right right, and in a computer
system, like you have various components and

492
00:41:31.480 --> 00:41:35.880
different you know. So yeah,
So why I say that is like the

493
00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:44.400
occult is like the it's like the
negative charge that causes that side that needs

494
00:41:44.440 --> 00:41:49.480
the positive reaction to fire and keep
the system going. Right. So that's

495
00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:53.960
why the occult stays hidden, is
because the occult, when people find out

496
00:41:54.599 --> 00:42:00.679
the truth, the real truth behind
the dream within the dream, then they'll

497
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:07.079
be awakened from their awakening and then
finally, so to speak, realize who

498
00:42:07.119 --> 00:42:14.599
they are and shrug off that that
oppressiveness in a sense too, because they're

499
00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:19.360
not looking for they're not looking to
follow anything anymore if they are confident and

500
00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:24.679
independent and individuals again right right,
So I mean if you understand that everything

501
00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:30.880
that you've put your trust and faith
in have now shown you its true colors.

502
00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:36.840
I mean you you don't there's no
going back to that same system and

503
00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:39.920
then you know, being okay with
it, and if if you realize that,

504
00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:44.079
and even just on the practical,
like real life level, just the

505
00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:46.159
facade of what you believe because the
media tells you and stuff like that,

506
00:42:46.280 --> 00:42:50.880
Like breaking away from that is one
thing, but then even people who tell

507
00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:52.880
you the truth could be just trying
to steer you in a slightly different direction

508
00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:59.519
and get get your right back straight
into hell. You know, Yeah,

509
00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:04.119
it's back in right, Yeah,
you know it, and it brings you

510
00:43:04.239 --> 00:43:07.639
back into it brings you back into
the feedback loop, you know. And

511
00:43:08.360 --> 00:43:12.840
you know, I'm not sure you
know how how deep you want to,

512
00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:19.599
you know, take your conversation like
that. But for me personally, when

513
00:43:19.679 --> 00:43:27.800
I came to the realization that everything
that I have been taught, everything that

514
00:43:27.880 --> 00:43:37.159
I have been indoctrinated with, has
been done so through a distorted lens,

515
00:43:38.639 --> 00:43:50.119
then I'm open to look into what
could be the real truth. And once

516
00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:53.039
I realized that, it was like
something unlocked the keys of my oppressive,

517
00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:58.599
oppressive oppressiveness right now or depression that
I was in personally, and has really

518
00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:01.119
set me free. I mean now, I mean despite all that, and

519
00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:05.320
you know, I can tell you
stories all day long, but despite me

520
00:44:05.480 --> 00:44:08.719
going through all that, like,
I've come out the other side, you

521
00:44:08.800 --> 00:44:15.920
know, I've come out the other
side, and I'm able to live a

522
00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:22.360
life that is free of fear,
you know. And by that, I

523
00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:37.320
mean that fear, seeing it as
an acronym is factoring all existing realities.

524
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:42.679
I mean when you think about it, because like right now, for instance,

525
00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:44.719
my life's about to change in a
big way and I'll just you know,

526
00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:46.079
I'll just be a little bit vulnerable
with you right now. I think

527
00:44:46.119 --> 00:44:51.639
I kind of mentioned it that I
own my own business. Yea, And

528
00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:55.360
I think you said you own a
business. You own a hot sauce company

529
00:44:55.480 --> 00:45:00.280
or something. Yeah, I think
that's cool, by the way. But

530
00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:02.639
but anyways, but yeah, so
I own this business. I've had it

531
00:45:02.719 --> 00:45:07.400
for seven years now. I kind
of fell into it really long story short.

532
00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:09.760
You know, we were at the
brink of a major expansion, you

533
00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:14.079
know, becoming regional authority for the
area that we're delivering in and you know,

534
00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:22.239
all this constantly turn around COVID Yes, yes, my business, yes,

535
00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:27.360
yeah, And I've been I've been
trying. I've been trying for three

536
00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:30.559
years, almost four years now to
you know, build it back up.

537
00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:32.880
But I mean, we got cut
out from under the knees. And you

538
00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:36.840
know, when we're we're we're not
gonna, we're not gonna go out of

539
00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:39.079
business, but we're looking at potential, you know, bankruptcy. Right.

540
00:45:39.719 --> 00:45:44.280
But and for me as a business
owner, this is my first big like

541
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:50.400
situation like this, you know,
and it's painful, you know, but

542
00:45:50.519 --> 00:45:54.719
it's also open and I want to
see it as like a failure. And

543
00:45:54.800 --> 00:45:59.519
here's an example of like knowing the
truth and who I am is why I'm

544
00:45:59.559 --> 00:46:04.280
saying this. It's because I know
that my family and the outside world was

545
00:46:04.280 --> 00:46:07.840
going and friends and peer group and
my employees, they're going to see it

546
00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:10.199
as I failed because I did.
I failed them, right, I failed

547
00:46:10.239 --> 00:46:14.280
to provide an expectation that I said
I was going to do, and you

548
00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:17.159
know, things happened outside of my
control and and happened. Yeah, the

549
00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:21.360
whole world shut down. It's not
really something you can right therefore, right

550
00:46:21.639 --> 00:46:23.840
right, right, But you know, I gave it my all, and

551
00:46:23.960 --> 00:46:27.840
you know, for for the last
several years, man, I've been struggling

552
00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:34.239
so hard with my identity because my
identity was locked in this like linked back

553
00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:40.280
to my family crest of conquer at
all costs and circling circling back to the

554
00:46:40.320 --> 00:46:47.159
conquista, the door thing. It
was embedded in me since I was before

555
00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:52.039
I was born, in my bloodline
to conquer at all costs, win at

556
00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:58.960
all costs. Yeah, and no
matter how it's done, you just win.

557
00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:02.639
And so I tried to do that
in my life, and I've had

558
00:47:02.840 --> 00:47:12.079
so many failures and and I realized
that I was chasing an identity that didn't

559
00:47:12.079 --> 00:47:15.800
belong to me. I was doing
it because it's what I needed to do

560
00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:20.679
to be accepted. So I'm changing
that. And anyways, it could also

561
00:47:20.719 --> 00:47:25.239
be strategy too, because when you
think conquer it all costs, the first

562
00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:31.840
thing that comes into my mind is
like a bulldozer, like a brutal brute

563
00:47:31.880 --> 00:47:37.400
force, forcing something that's not ready
to happen, and trying to make something

564
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:39.599
happen unnaturally, which is kind of
what magic is too, in a sense.

565
00:47:39.639 --> 00:47:44.920
It's forcing your will upon something.
So you know, when you say,

566
00:47:44.960 --> 00:47:47.480
when I think at all costs,
I think in the absence of empathy,

567
00:47:47.760 --> 00:47:51.440
in the absence of for others.
So when you do it like that,

568
00:47:51.719 --> 00:47:54.519
you're bound to have repercussions. But
I don't think that's how you were

569
00:47:54.599 --> 00:48:00.480
operating your business. I'm just saying
that that mindset could be people to think

570
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:02.800
in those ways that they can just
do whatever they need to do to get

571
00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:07.039
by and screw everybody on the way, because that does if you're not one

572
00:48:07.039 --> 00:48:09.000
of the guys on the way up
top who can pay for all the lawsuits

573
00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:12.519
and can pay for all the you
know, you know, all the all

574
00:48:12.559 --> 00:48:15.960
the cushioning from his lawyers and all
that, that's going to catch up with

575
00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:17.239
you if you start screwing everybody.
You know, so you don't want to

576
00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:20.559
do that. Plus, it's just
the mortal baggage of that, you know,

577
00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:24.880
the the charmatic baggage if you believe
in that of doing that and you

578
00:48:24.960 --> 00:48:29.280
know, once you like you have
a family or something that like, I

579
00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:31.880
could you imagine if they did that
to you type of thing, and it's

580
00:48:32.039 --> 00:48:37.599
uh so, yeah, doing right
by others I think would be paramount win

581
00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:42.119
at all costs, with the exception
of take care of your you know,

582
00:48:42.559 --> 00:48:45.920
those those who are taking care of
you on the on the upper level of

583
00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:47.559
that you know. Oh yeah,
oh yeah, but that that's been the

584
00:48:47.760 --> 00:48:52.280
that's been the biggest lesson that I've
learned. That's the biggest lesson that i've

585
00:48:52.280 --> 00:48:57.760
buy I've learned, honestly, and
because you know you you've mentioned now this

586
00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:04.679
issue with empathy. That's really deep
insight because oh man, I'll tell you

587
00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:07.519
right now if I were to show
you my original records from when I got

588
00:49:08.119 --> 00:49:12.679
when I was entered into this program. Okay, so stepping back a little

589
00:49:12.679 --> 00:49:15.039
bit and telling you, but when
I entered into my recovery, Okay,

590
00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:22.400
it was two thousand and five,
after that drug overdose I went in.

591
00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:27.000
Actually I had like probably about a
two three year grace period where I was

592
00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:32.679
okay and then I really started to
go insane with the PTSD. And when

593
00:49:32.679 --> 00:49:39.880
I entered into the program, they
had mentioned that I was an interesting case

594
00:49:39.960 --> 00:49:45.800
because when they did the psychiatric evaluation
on me, the person said, they

595
00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:52.599
said, you know what's weird is
he has no empathy. And I grew

596
00:49:52.719 --> 00:49:57.360
up with no empathy. I mean, I was not allowed and again,

597
00:49:57.719 --> 00:50:00.079
you know, kind of a strategy
type thing. I don't know how this

598
00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:05.360
played out or why, but my
parents when I was younger. They were

599
00:50:05.519 --> 00:50:07.000
they were gone a lot, so
they you know, they traveled a lot.

600
00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:12.639
My dad was in the Pentecostal church
and he traveled as a traveling minister.

601
00:50:13.119 --> 00:50:15.880
My mom did music and she was
a music director for him. So

602
00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:22.079
they traveled around doing that stuff.
And I was at home with my family

603
00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:25.800
that was doing ac cult rituals and
forcing me to watch animal sacrifices and so

604
00:50:29.079 --> 00:50:32.920
I remember like going through these situations
and like watching like animals being skinned,

605
00:50:32.960 --> 00:50:37.440
live like still breathing. You know, Syria, like ye had the Assyrian

606
00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:40.880
Babylonians, they would do that to
their enemies. They would skin and they

607
00:50:40.920 --> 00:50:47.119
would and they would I mean the
incantations and the different things. I mean,

608
00:50:50.199 --> 00:50:54.159
was it Mexic was it? Because
I'm just curious, like, was

609
00:50:54.199 --> 00:50:59.760
it a cabalistic thing? Well,
there was a different language that was spoken.

610
00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:04.039
Okay, you know, the incantations, the different language they were spoken.

611
00:51:04.039 --> 00:51:08.119
I don't feel comfortable saying what it
is, but yeah, during those

612
00:51:08.199 --> 00:51:12.559
times, it was a it was
an ancient language that was spoken that's you

613
00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:15.880
know, actually been it's been lost. Not a lot of people know how

614
00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:19.960
to speak it. I know,
from a different continent from like from here

615
00:51:20.559 --> 00:51:23.679
from here. Okay, yeah,
we're talking. We're talking ancient. We're

616
00:51:23.719 --> 00:51:28.280
talking ancient ancient native languages, that's
what I'm saying. So this could be

617
00:51:28.400 --> 00:51:32.320
like the like the Astecs with their
with their the as sects of the Incas

618
00:51:32.360 --> 00:51:37.239
with their they had a skinning ritual. They actually had a demon god who

619
00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:43.280
was the skin the god who wore
flesh of others, of others on him,

620
00:51:43.880 --> 00:51:47.960
right, well, and and and
then the Apache culture they call that,

621
00:51:49.679 --> 00:51:52.199
well, there's a there's a I
can't remember the Apache name for it,

622
00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:55.519
but it interprets to this is gonna
sound crazy, but the Bigfoot or

623
00:51:55.639 --> 00:52:00.760
you know that character, you know
that cryptid character. Yea, So they

624
00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:06.480
actually have a ritual where they summon
a type like you know, beast or

625
00:52:06.679 --> 00:52:10.320
entity, you know. And yeah, so I mean that's that's a whole

626
00:52:10.360 --> 00:52:14.719
nother that's a whole nother rabbit hole. But but yeah, no, I

627
00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:21.800
participated in those types of rituals.
Do that yourself too? Yeah? Yeah,

628
00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:28.079
and you know, and so because
I went through that, it was

629
00:52:28.159 --> 00:52:31.599
so shocking to my system. I
didn't have as a little kid, imagine

630
00:52:31.599 --> 00:52:34.519
if it was a puppy or something
like that, Like, how would you

631
00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:37.639
go. You know, that was
just yeah, and that was the thing

632
00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:42.119
that I did. We did that
to dogs, and you know, when

633
00:52:42.159 --> 00:52:46.000
I was initiated, it was you
know, a puppy and it's very sick

634
00:52:46.039 --> 00:52:51.400
and twisted, man, you know, I mean it's uh, I really

635
00:52:51.440 --> 00:52:55.159
don't understand like that whole part of
it. You know. I tried to

636
00:52:55.320 --> 00:53:02.280
go back and like, because I
was going through my recovery, one of

637
00:53:02.320 --> 00:53:06.079
the things I did was and I'm
going to keep referring to my recovery because

638
00:53:06.119 --> 00:53:09.079
it just kind of helps bring me
to a oh please, yeah, levels

639
00:53:09.119 --> 00:53:14.920
me out. When I was doing
my recovery, they did this thing called

640
00:53:15.039 --> 00:53:20.199
e MDR, which is a newer
kind of experimental type treatment where they put

641
00:53:20.280 --> 00:53:22.559
you in a dark room. You're
completely in darkness and then they flash a

642
00:53:22.599 --> 00:53:28.079
white light across your eyes and it
kind of puts you not a hypnosis kind

643
00:53:28.119 --> 00:53:31.400
of a state, but it kind
of puts you in this in between and

644
00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:36.360
I would compare it to astral traveling. I'm not sure if you're familiar with

645
00:53:36.440 --> 00:53:38.199
that. Yeah, it kind of
sounds like what they do with this with

646
00:53:38.360 --> 00:53:43.199
the processed Church and scientology a little
bit too. Like, I know your

647
00:53:43.239 --> 00:53:46.679
recovery. But I'm just it's the
same techniques but used in an awful way

648
00:53:47.320 --> 00:53:50.519
out of the same ways that you
could actually help people with through. So

649
00:53:50.639 --> 00:53:53.719
it's just depending on how the method
that they use it with it right right,

650
00:53:53.920 --> 00:53:58.320
right? Well, yeah, with
me, they took brain scans.

651
00:53:58.400 --> 00:54:00.880
They took actually brain scans on me, and they showed me and this.

652
00:54:01.079 --> 00:54:04.679
And my dad was at this point
he had had prisen up to be a

653
00:54:04.760 --> 00:54:09.119
director of a medical of a hospital, one of the main segments of the

654
00:54:09.159 --> 00:54:14.760
hospital. He became a director there
and like clerical, right, he was

655
00:54:14.760 --> 00:54:17.440
still in the clergy articles. Yeah, yeah, he was ordained clergy and

656
00:54:17.559 --> 00:54:22.159
the chaplain of the church of the
hospital or something like that. No,

657
00:54:22.880 --> 00:54:25.760
he ran well, he was chaplain
and he but he also ran the uh

658
00:54:27.199 --> 00:54:30.639
he oversaw operations for the operating room
in the emergency room. So he directed

659
00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:35.840
like all he was. He made
sure that all the doctors got everything that

660
00:54:35.920 --> 00:54:40.239
they needed to perform their surgeries successfully. That's cool. And yeah, and

661
00:54:40.400 --> 00:54:47.000
my mom she worked actually for the
federal government. She worked stories there,

662
00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:52.559
ye, yes, that I cannot
talk about, but she did have she

663
00:54:52.679 --> 00:55:00.440
did have top secret Q clearance with
the government and she retired with them.

664
00:55:01.679 --> 00:55:07.280
I want to say, maybe four
or five years ago. Can I ask

665
00:55:07.320 --> 00:55:08.599
you this? You know, you
know you said your mom and your dad

666
00:55:08.639 --> 00:55:15.079
are separate from this stuff, but
given that background of your mother and still

667
00:55:15.159 --> 00:55:20.599
having the you know, the clerical
or clergy side of your dad, was

668
00:55:20.679 --> 00:55:25.199
it completely separate? I mean,
did you ever get pulled into mk type

669
00:55:25.239 --> 00:55:30.079
of experiments with the governor? Yes? No, yes, no, absolutely,

670
00:55:30.119 --> 00:55:34.199
And I would like to go into
that if that's I mean, if

671
00:55:34.239 --> 00:55:37.360
you're comfortable if the I derailed you
from something else. You were saying,

672
00:55:37.440 --> 00:55:39.280
this is just my how I like
you were apologize, and my brain works

673
00:55:39.320 --> 00:55:42.960
the same way. Like I know, I have a finite amount of time

674
00:55:43.000 --> 00:55:45.400
before I forget what I'm going to
ask, so I just have to do

675
00:55:45.480 --> 00:55:47.079
it when I can. So yeah, no, sure, no, I

676
00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:50.599
can. Definitely. I'm willing to
go any direction that you want to go

677
00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:54.280
with this. So oh and if
we're getting too close to where it makes

678
00:55:54.320 --> 00:55:58.880
me feel or I feel comfortable,
then I'll tell you. So you were

679
00:55:58.920 --> 00:56:00.599
talking about the light and the and
the recovery, so let's let's finish that

680
00:56:00.679 --> 00:56:05.159
off, and then we can't talk
about anything that happened over the the yeah,

681
00:56:05.239 --> 00:56:07.639
yeah, yeah, so like with
my so anyways, yeah, so

682
00:56:07.719 --> 00:56:10.360
with the recovery, I was going
through em DR and it's this hypnosis type

683
00:56:10.400 --> 00:56:14.280
thing and and it kind of is
like I could compare it to astional traveling.

684
00:56:14.400 --> 00:56:17.760
So if any of your listeners,
if they're like, if they're familiar

685
00:56:17.800 --> 00:56:22.840
with astral traveling, that's what I
mean. Mm hmm, Well let me

686
00:56:22.880 --> 00:56:25.639
make sure I closed this other thing. I've got you on this other thing

687
00:56:25.719 --> 00:56:30.840
live. I don't want to be
like a feedback or something. So anyways,

688
00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:36.400
uh, so I would sit,
they would do these sessions with me

689
00:56:36.519 --> 00:56:38.440
where they showed me by brain scans, and what they showed was is that

690
00:56:38.559 --> 00:56:43.840
my pre fineral cortex was off.
So my critical thinking center of my brain,

691
00:56:43.920 --> 00:56:47.800
my prefneral cortex, it was completely
shut off. And the on the

692
00:56:47.880 --> 00:56:52.800
sane right, it wouldn't light up. Certain yeah, it wouldn't light up.

693
00:56:52.159 --> 00:56:54.880
But my amigdalave, which is the
trauma center of my brain, was

694
00:56:55.079 --> 00:57:00.199
red hot. And so yeah,
and so they so they told me that

695
00:57:00.840 --> 00:57:04.800
they're like, well, this is
what's going on. They said that he's

696
00:57:05.039 --> 00:57:12.480
only he only has neuropathways connected to
his trauma center of his brain. Yeah,

697
00:57:12.559 --> 00:57:15.119
like reptilian brain, like the yeah, exactly, reptilian brain exactly.

698
00:57:15.199 --> 00:57:19.199
And that's what they said, like
this guy is operating off his RETI who

699
00:57:19.239 --> 00:57:23.519
was reptilian brain, you know.
And they actually said that because during that

700
00:57:23.599 --> 00:57:25.480
time, dude, I mean I
was one of those. I mean,

701
00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:30.519
by the time two thousand and five
came around, I was a leader of

702
00:57:30.559 --> 00:57:34.920
a small gang. Okay, I
had my own you know, operation going.

703
00:57:35.159 --> 00:57:39.239
I was. I was on the
way to becoming my grandfather. Yeah,

704
00:57:39.679 --> 00:57:45.920
okay, I was on the way
there. And so I had this

705
00:57:45.079 --> 00:57:51.760
persona, this identity that I was
already being built up. But I don't

706
00:57:51.760 --> 00:57:53.880
see a lot of tats on you. What's up. Yeah, that's purposeful,

707
00:57:54.119 --> 00:57:58.360
that's purposeful. Good. Yeah.
Those those are the those are the

708
00:57:58.400 --> 00:58:01.760
street those are the street warriors of
the Spiders. Yeah, you're you're above

709
00:58:01.840 --> 00:58:07.280
that. You send those guys out. Yes, yeah. So when I

710
00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:08.840
was when I got to be,
and that's on purpose, you know.

711
00:58:09.000 --> 00:58:14.119
And when I was younger, I'd
ask for tattoos and you know, ask

712
00:58:14.199 --> 00:58:16.119
for blessings, and it was always
no, like and I asked my Gappa

713
00:58:16.199 --> 00:58:20.039
one time, like why why don't
you guys do that? Like should it?

714
00:58:20.360 --> 00:58:23.840
And he says that you know,
the strongest societies are kept secret,

715
00:58:24.519 --> 00:58:27.159
right, so you got to look
the part. You got to be able

716
00:58:27.159 --> 00:58:30.519
to blend in. You can't do
that. Yeah, yeah, you cannot

717
00:58:30.679 --> 00:58:34.920
write. That's why it's called the
occult, right, because you have to

718
00:58:35.360 --> 00:58:40.760
you have to stay hidden, you
know. So anyways, but through that

719
00:58:40.840 --> 00:58:45.280
recovery, I was like it was
like being able to astro travel and I

720
00:58:45.280 --> 00:58:47.840
would go back in time. It
was like I was riding on a train

721
00:58:49.079 --> 00:58:52.000
and these images would start going buy
me on my left and my right because

722
00:58:52.519 --> 00:59:00.719
when the lights were shining in a
certain when the lights are shot in a

723
00:59:00.800 --> 00:59:04.920
certain direction, it would look like
I'd have you know, stuff going beside

724
00:59:05.000 --> 00:59:07.320
me, right, And I would
land on these different times in my life

725
00:59:07.360 --> 00:59:12.760
when these events were happening, and
I was able to like feel like I

726
00:59:12.880 --> 00:59:16.440
was in that space and that moment, you know. I was talking to

727
00:59:16.559 --> 00:59:22.360
the Cult Rejects guide Nick and he
said, through meditation and ritual, something

728
00:59:22.480 --> 00:59:28.639
very similar happens where there's a light
in the center and you see these basically

729
00:59:28.760 --> 00:59:32.760
like like freeze frames of your of
maybe things you don't recognize when he was

730
00:59:32.800 --> 00:59:37.079
doing it, but if you recognize
it as part of your life. He

731
00:59:37.880 --> 00:59:39.239
had the sense and feeling that he
could just step into one of them and

732
00:59:39.320 --> 00:59:44.800
be there in that timeframe. Yeah, I had that same I had that

733
00:59:44.880 --> 00:59:47.400
same experience. Yeah, yeah,
and so but it was but so that

734
00:59:47.800 --> 00:59:51.360
was when I first did that first
couple of times, it was it was

735
00:59:51.440 --> 00:59:57.519
overwhelming, It was, it was
extremely overwhelming. My entire paradigm exploded.

736
00:59:59.800 --> 01:00:02.960
And the first time, probably right, first time self reflection, I would

737
01:00:04.000 --> 01:00:07.119
imagine, like the first time for
self reflection, like to see you know,

738
01:00:07.320 --> 01:00:10.360
yeah, like a conscience starting to
building. Yeah, I know,

739
01:00:10.480 --> 01:00:14.239
exactly. No, yeah, because
before that, I can honestly say that

740
01:00:14.320 --> 01:00:16.119
I could, you know, I
could put a gun, you know,

741
01:00:16.159 --> 01:00:20.840
I could put a gun up to
somebody and not care, you know.

742
01:00:21.440 --> 01:00:24.079
And that's and that's not I can't
ask that question. But I would imagine

743
01:00:24.119 --> 01:00:28.159
there's there's some stories behind that too. Well, you know, I've never

744
01:00:28.320 --> 01:00:30.719
killed anybody, you know, I
never, you know, I never,

745
01:00:31.360 --> 01:00:37.119
I never did anything like that,
Never made you have to sacrifice anything that

746
01:00:37.239 --> 01:00:42.440
wasn't an animal. No, okay, no, yeah, that's the official

747
01:00:42.440 --> 01:00:45.880
answer at least, right I'm dismissing. Yeah, that's the mainstream narrative.

748
01:00:46.000 --> 01:00:51.199
No, yeah, no, no, I was never forced to do anything

749
01:00:51.280 --> 01:00:52.559
like that. You know, I
have seen a lot of death though,

750
01:00:53.039 --> 01:00:57.559
you know that the death, you
know, the death that I did see

751
01:00:57.920 --> 01:01:06.639
was families against families, you know, because like in the uh in that

752
01:01:07.239 --> 01:01:12.239
same household, same household, you
know, same household, and also just

753
01:01:12.360 --> 01:01:15.599
you know, families of the region. You know, like I would say

754
01:01:15.679 --> 01:01:21.559
probably from the time I was I
want to say eleven, because I actually

755
01:01:21.599 --> 01:01:23.760
went through two initiations. I went
through initiation when I was six. I

756
01:01:23.800 --> 01:01:28.679
went through initiation when I was twelve, going into my teenagers, and I

757
01:01:28.679 --> 01:01:32.960
would say like around twelve is when
things started getting really weird, and there

758
01:01:34.119 --> 01:01:38.760
was some fights that were happening between
the Natives and the Spaniards regarding land and

759
01:01:39.079 --> 01:01:45.320
other things and and control what I
what I believe is control of like drugs

760
01:01:45.360 --> 01:01:50.800
that were being sold in that area
and distributed in that area. So essentially

761
01:01:50.880 --> 01:01:53.639
there was like a drug war that
broke out. There was a there was

762
01:01:53.679 --> 01:01:59.599
a family of Italians that moved in
from the east that came to our area

763
01:02:00.320 --> 01:02:02.400
and they started a fight with the
family and they just wiped each other out.

764
01:02:02.400 --> 01:02:09.360
I mean, they killed each other. Yeah, So that lasted what

765
01:02:09.480 --> 01:02:13.599
an accomplishment, right, and I
was like, I'm Italian, and it's

766
01:02:13.679 --> 01:02:15.519
just like what did it for?
What? You know, Like I'm what

767
01:02:15.679 --> 01:02:20.440
I mean, they literally wiped they
wiped each other out, and you know,

768
01:02:20.519 --> 01:02:22.840
and that's why when I had that
drug overdose, because I was on

769
01:02:22.920 --> 01:02:25.159
my way there, you know the
reason why I did what I did and

770
01:02:25.360 --> 01:02:29.159
left, because I literally just up
and left. I'll never forget the day.

771
01:02:29.199 --> 01:02:34.519
It was September seventeen, two thousand
and five. I had this drug

772
01:02:34.559 --> 01:02:40.880
overdose and I had this like awakening, you know, I just I realized,

773
01:02:40.920 --> 01:02:45.280
like you said that self inflection of
like I realized like who I was.

774
01:02:45.239 --> 01:02:51.440
And in that moment when I had
that experience, I had two encounters.

775
01:02:51.679 --> 01:02:53.000
And it gets a little weird.
So I hope that you know,

776
01:02:53.079 --> 01:02:55.679
I'm just telling you what I what
I experienced. Now, that's fine,

777
01:02:57.079 --> 01:02:59.840
We're open minded here, It's okay, cool, right on. I know,

778
01:03:00.039 --> 01:03:00.920
it's just, you know, it's
a little nervous saying this is actually

779
01:03:00.920 --> 01:03:07.639
the first time I've been in this
position. But so in this moment when

780
01:03:07.639 --> 01:03:13.880
I'm overdosing, I'm actually conscious in
this moment, and I'm conscious as this

781
01:03:14.000 --> 01:03:16.960
is happening, and I realize that
I've taken too much and I can feel

782
01:03:17.039 --> 01:03:23.320
my body, my body starts to
shut down. What's that? Yeah,

783
01:03:23.360 --> 01:03:27.440
what drug was it? Well?
I was doing all kinds of drugs.

784
01:03:27.480 --> 01:03:31.239
I was doing acid, shrooms,
you know, cocaine, you know,

785
01:03:31.360 --> 01:03:36.880
other injectives, you know, dopamine, you know, you name it.

786
01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:39.480
I mean it was all we would
just we would go to the nines because

787
01:03:42.519 --> 01:03:46.480
like I was in this thinking of
like, if I can get the faster,

788
01:03:46.639 --> 01:03:51.199
I can get to the darkness,
I'll find the light. So when

789
01:03:51.239 --> 01:03:54.280
I reject when I rejected God and
I rejected faith, when I was younger,

790
01:03:58.880 --> 01:04:00.920
I was told that I was going
to be consumed with darkness. I

791
01:04:01.079 --> 01:04:10.159
was told that I was darkness.
And I was told that the message I

792
01:04:10.320 --> 01:04:16.960
was given is that I shouldn't exist, that I was a shadow. And

793
01:04:17.119 --> 01:04:24.000
so I didn't like that. I
didn't like that narrative in my own life.

794
01:04:24.719 --> 01:04:29.920
So, and how they were telling
you this stuff, yeah, right,

795
01:04:30.920 --> 01:04:33.519
and so but after a certain age
of being told this over and over

796
01:04:33.639 --> 01:04:38.400
again, you start to believe,
well, maybe I am darkness. And

797
01:04:38.480 --> 01:04:42.800
repetition is hypnosis for sure, right, And so by the time I'm six,

798
01:04:42.920 --> 01:04:45.239
I'm very violent in school, I
had no empathy. You know,

799
01:04:45.360 --> 01:04:49.159
kids would come up, you know, boys would come up and make fun

800
01:04:49.199 --> 01:04:54.960
of me because I was always a
little awkward and weird, and they little

801
01:04:55.000 --> 01:04:59.599
did they know that I was literally
trying to like keep myself together because I

802
01:04:59.679 --> 01:05:02.480
had just been violently raped the night
before. That did happen to you?

803
01:05:02.559 --> 01:05:05.440
Then? Okay, I didn't ask
you about that. I didn't want to.

804
01:05:05.599 --> 01:05:10.039
But yeah, no, I mean, you know it's it's I know,

805
01:05:10.199 --> 01:05:15.360
it's a multiple people. It was
it like an ritual type of atmosphere

806
01:05:15.400 --> 01:05:18.239
too, Yeah, it was.
It was always it was always ritualistic.

807
01:05:18.880 --> 01:05:23.519
So that sounds like more than one
person then usually too, No, it

808
01:05:23.679 --> 01:05:30.440
was it was multiple. You know, there were times where here's what I

809
01:05:30.519 --> 01:05:33.960
don't get to. So many different
cultures and different continents. Do you all

810
01:05:34.039 --> 01:05:40.039
have the same methods for breaking somebody? You know what I mean? Like,

811
01:05:40.199 --> 01:05:44.199
there's there's something there's something about the
evil that stirs around in here in

812
01:05:44.320 --> 01:05:49.480
this world that this this force,
this presence that you know, informs everyone

813
01:05:49.559 --> 01:05:55.239
equally about how to get there and
how to do these things. Yeah,

814
01:05:55.559 --> 01:05:59.760
no, it is like it is
like a to me. To me,

815
01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:05.920
it felt like a demonic hive mind
you know, or or or a different

816
01:06:06.039 --> 01:06:11.280
type of unified thinking because it works
as a network, you know what I

817
01:06:11.360 --> 01:06:15.719
mean, It's a network, So
you know, for me it was and

818
01:06:15.880 --> 01:06:18.199
you know, again saying my mom
and dad, you know they're probably gonna

819
01:06:18.239 --> 01:06:21.639
hear this. I've reconciled with my
parents. There was a point where I

820
01:06:23.039 --> 01:06:26.800
wasn't really connected with them, and
I've reconciled my relationship with both my parents

821
01:06:27.559 --> 01:06:30.199
and then they've always been a place
of strength and I just want to tell

822
01:06:30.199 --> 01:06:35.559
me I love them if they do
watch this. But but yeah, and

823
01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:39.239
you know what, my parents just
to say this real quick to because I

824
01:06:39.280 --> 01:06:43.760
need to say this disclaimer. You
know, I was groomed from a young

825
01:06:43.840 --> 01:06:45.559
age to be in the occult my
parents. It was kept secret from my

826
01:06:45.639 --> 01:06:50.960
parents. They didn't know when I
first got initiated. When I was six,

827
01:06:51.119 --> 01:06:56.519
my parents were gone and I was
initiated by blood oath. I still

828
01:06:56.559 --> 01:06:58.199
have the scar in my hand.
I don't know if you can see it,

829
01:06:58.440 --> 01:07:04.239
but I was initiated by blood oath
after I was after I was repeatedly

830
01:07:04.360 --> 01:07:13.400
raped. Okay, to to not
to not say anything to me, that's

831
01:07:14.119 --> 01:07:16.880
mental break because it's like, why
do I would why would I trust anybody

832
01:07:17.440 --> 01:07:19.400
and why would I take it a
book to the same people that were just

833
01:07:19.559 --> 01:07:24.360
destroying my my entire life just now, you know, I mean, yeah,

834
01:07:24.880 --> 01:07:29.719
yeah, yeah, no, exactly
exactly. Yeah, sorry, go

835
01:07:29.719 --> 01:07:31.800
ahead. I just said it's chaos. Chaos. It is. No,

836
01:07:31.960 --> 01:07:34.000
it is, and I want to
I want to come back to that.

837
01:07:38.000 --> 01:07:43.960
But but yeah, so so yeah, so where I was going with that

838
01:07:44.239 --> 01:07:47.039
is so at that point, at
age six, you know, when I

839
01:07:47.159 --> 01:07:53.360
made the decision, when I had
this initiation, I felt like I felt

840
01:07:53.360 --> 01:07:59.400
like a dark awakening right when I
was officially like initiated in couldn't have a

841
01:07:59.480 --> 01:08:01.599
presence come along with you afterwards?
You know? Yeah, well I was.

842
01:08:02.000 --> 01:08:08.280
I was assigned to spirit guide mm
hmm. And the spirit guide I

843
01:08:08.559 --> 01:08:10.719
I you know, and I'm going
to sound crazy here, but if you're

844
01:08:10.760 --> 01:08:14.000
open mind that, I'm just going
to tell it. You know, the

845
01:08:14.119 --> 01:08:18.760
spirit guide had a name, and
it was linked to me through my life,

846
01:08:18.840 --> 01:08:25.600
and I was told that this spirit
guide would help me along, that

847
01:08:25.640 --> 01:08:30.920
would guide me along the way through
the fire. Huh. That's the fire

848
01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:34.920
coming up again too, right,
same and same symbols, right. So

849
01:08:35.439 --> 01:08:38.800
it was like a rite of passage
in a way, you know what I

850
01:08:38.880 --> 01:08:42.960
mean. It was it was like
a weird thing and they're proud of you,

851
01:08:43.119 --> 01:08:45.479
but they just destroyed you, right
like that type of it's backward.

852
01:08:45.880 --> 01:08:49.159
It creates a duality. Well,
it's inversion, right, it's inversions,

853
01:08:49.279 --> 01:08:54.840
you know, Luciferianism. It's inversion
of the truth. So it's the absence

854
01:08:54.920 --> 01:08:58.840
of and the the and you know
it's as above so below or the reversal

855
01:08:58.880 --> 01:09:04.840
of that. And they're their whole
claim is they are the darkness. So

856
01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:13.000
they're going to they're they're they have
a purpose because it's it's about, okay,

857
01:09:13.119 --> 01:09:16.199
all things are created, you know, according to ancient texts, all

858
01:09:16.239 --> 01:09:19.800
things are created by the Almighty,
for the Almighty, through the Almighty,

859
01:09:19.960 --> 01:09:28.720
you know, accorded to that world
system. And so they feel like they

860
01:09:29.000 --> 01:09:31.560
even that includes the darkness, that
includes the evil, and they are the

861
01:09:31.680 --> 01:09:38.920
necessary evil that has to be because
in their efforts and what they're doing,

862
01:09:39.079 --> 01:09:45.399
they feel justified. That's because they're
connected to the they're connected to the greater

863
01:09:45.640 --> 01:09:48.680
they're connected to the Greater network,
if that makes sense. Or I mean

864
01:09:48.800 --> 01:09:54.279
when it's reinforced by actual supernatural things
occurring when they do these rituals it's hard

865
01:09:54.359 --> 01:09:59.000
not for them not to believe it, that they're accurate, that they know.

866
01:09:59.319 --> 01:10:01.760
Yeah, well they have tap they
have really tapped into and you know,

867
01:10:02.439 --> 01:10:05.479
and this is why, you know, this is why they call it,

868
01:10:05.800 --> 01:10:13.000
you know, a call or hidden
also because there are those like really

869
01:10:13.119 --> 01:10:19.399
kind of ancient AI rituals, right
yeah, an yeah, ancient AI memes,

870
01:10:19.640 --> 01:10:25.439
you know, these texts that these
symbols, the symbolism, the letters,

871
01:10:25.800 --> 01:10:33.880
you know, the ability to manifest
in communication, right, you know.

872
01:10:34.000 --> 01:10:38.840
That makes sense too, because sigils
have an actual energy that affects your

873
01:10:39.760 --> 01:10:44.399
your subconscious like images, certain things
like you don't know it. The reason

874
01:10:44.439 --> 01:10:46.800
why they use these things in like
corporate logos is because it has an effect

875
01:10:46.880 --> 01:10:51.880
on your brain. It's so it
is in a sense like a computer system

876
01:10:51.880 --> 01:10:55.600
would work too, or like the
AI would work as well in a way

877
01:10:55.680 --> 01:11:00.279
that affects you. It's just a
different way of looking at it because we

878
01:11:00.399 --> 01:11:02.960
first have to realize that this realm
could very well be a simulation. And

879
01:11:03.039 --> 01:11:06.640
when that's true, any little thing
could be digitized, any little thing can

880
01:11:06.680 --> 01:11:11.680
be part of AI. You know, you don't even know it right exactly,

881
01:11:11.720 --> 01:11:15.119
And that's why they call it,
you know, because what I'm learning

882
01:11:15.159 --> 01:11:19.600
too is I'm having to I'm finding
myself being careful with the letters I use,

883
01:11:19.720 --> 01:11:25.279
because that's why they call it spelling, because we spell, we broadcasts

884
01:11:25.399 --> 01:11:30.359
or we're casting spells and manifesting things
and so. And this is huge in

885
01:11:30.359 --> 01:11:33.600
the occult because they believe that they
already believe. Now it doesn't matter,

886
01:11:34.079 --> 01:11:38.399
It doesn't matter what Christians believe,
or Buddhists or you know, any of

887
01:11:38.399 --> 01:11:45.479
the religion but believes. Okay,
the the fact of the matter is is

888
01:11:45.560 --> 01:11:54.920
that manifestation is done through spelling.
Period. You have to you have to

889
01:11:55.680 --> 01:12:00.119
put a spell out in order to
manipulate the reality around you and mix the

890
01:12:00.600 --> 01:12:08.039
mix the uh, what's the word
I'm looking for here, mix the energy

891
01:12:08.199 --> 01:12:13.199
of your emotions together to manifest what
you want in life. And that is

892
01:12:13.399 --> 01:12:16.479
kind of to me, has been
the hack for my simulation because the life

893
01:12:16.520 --> 01:12:18.920
that I live, you know,
when I even when I tell the story

894
01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:23.119
and I've told you know the story
to you know, my innermost circle that

895
01:12:23.239 --> 01:12:33.079
know about what I'm telling you right
now, They they see me for who

896
01:12:33.119 --> 01:12:41.119
I am and they allow me a
space to be safe. And I lost

897
01:12:41.159 --> 01:12:45.399
my train. I thought there for
a second, Sorry, No, it's

898
01:12:45.439 --> 01:12:48.680
okay. I was gonna ask if
if we have a moment to do so,

899
01:12:49.479 --> 01:12:53.439
are there any so you know,
being that you were initiated, being

900
01:12:53.479 --> 01:12:56.279
that you were in it for as
long as you were, and that you

901
01:12:56.359 --> 01:13:01.359
were basically chosen for an upper rechelant, not not us street thug. Are

902
01:13:01.399 --> 01:13:05.239
there any rituals that you led yourself, like you know, or that you

903
01:13:05.239 --> 01:13:10.600
would do on your own, independently
when you wanted something like? How much

904
01:13:10.640 --> 01:13:16.239
of this magic did you get into? And also did you witness supernatural things

905
01:13:16.279 --> 01:13:23.399
that couldn't be explained by whatever hallucination
or whatever it was? Yeah, something

906
01:13:23.439 --> 01:13:27.520
that you saw in it was there
or felt in was there a presence?

907
01:13:27.640 --> 01:13:31.479
Yeah? Yeah, no, good
question. You know, I talking on

908
01:13:31.600 --> 01:13:38.119
the last part first about witnessing those
high strange things and tying in the magic

909
01:13:38.600 --> 01:13:48.239
that is manifestation. Yes, I
have seen people go through shape shape shifting

910
01:13:49.239 --> 01:13:55.520
type of things. I've seen.
One time I saw these three young witches

911
01:13:55.640 --> 01:14:01.479
they were probably in their early teenage
years, twelve or thirteen, three teenage,

912
01:14:01.520 --> 01:14:06.520
which is dancing around a purple flame, a purple flame that was floating,

913
01:14:08.479 --> 01:14:12.279
and the greater group was around them, and these girls turned into coyotes,

914
01:14:14.920 --> 01:14:17.279
and it was it was the most
bizarre thing I'd ever seen. My

915
01:14:17.399 --> 01:14:20.479
friend, my brother and my friends
were we were all kind of we were

916
01:14:20.520 --> 01:14:25.159
there, we were supposed to be
there. There's something that we were supposed

917
01:14:25.159 --> 01:14:28.960
to be there. We're actually we
were walking through the dry river as they

918
01:14:29.000 --> 01:14:33.760
call mo Royals, and we stumbled
upon this ritual that was going on anyway.

919
01:14:34.079 --> 01:14:43.000
But and I've also seen well I've
seen other chimerical type creatures. But

920
01:14:43.239 --> 01:14:47.439
the thing that I want to focus
on is I want to focus on my

921
01:14:47.600 --> 01:14:56.800
ability. So I have ability for
like being a healer. Now I've acknowledged

922
01:14:56.840 --> 01:15:01.199
that right now in my current state
is that I'm an emotional healer. So

923
01:15:02.560 --> 01:15:08.000
because of the tools and the skills
I've been able to acquire and heal myself

924
01:15:08.279 --> 01:15:13.079
and detached from the trauma, I'm
able to then pass those tools and help

925
01:15:13.119 --> 01:15:18.239
other people. However, in the
past, I was growed to be a

926
01:15:18.359 --> 01:15:25.600
magician. So in the Order and
I saw you mentioning. I can't remember

927
01:15:25.680 --> 01:15:28.439
where I think, I think is
this last podcast I've had a chance to

928
01:15:28.520 --> 01:15:30.319
listen to it. Maybe I just
read the title, but it was mentioning

929
01:15:30.399 --> 01:15:34.600
like the Order of chaos oh or
oko? Yeah, that was a yeah,

930
01:15:34.720 --> 01:15:36.960
order of Ko. Yeah yeah,
yeah, so the order of Ko.

931
01:15:38.439 --> 01:15:41.600
Well, when I was young,
So just a quick side, just

932
01:15:41.640 --> 01:15:44.079
a quick side story. So and
are we good on time? We're good?

933
01:15:44.319 --> 01:15:50.600
Oh yeah, we're good. Okay. So so yeah, so when

934
01:15:50.600 --> 01:15:54.680
I was young, around twelve,
my second initiation. Okay, So going

935
01:15:54.720 --> 01:15:59.359
into my second initiation, because there's
different initiations at different ages, and it

936
01:15:59.479 --> 01:16:03.520
usually happened every six years, okay, And so in the second one,

937
01:16:06.359 --> 01:16:14.560
I was supposed to rob this store. I was only twelve and was supposed

938
01:16:14.600 --> 01:16:19.600
to rob a store, take a
certain amount of items and then you know,

939
01:16:19.720 --> 01:16:24.199
show that I had done that deed, and then that initiates me into

940
01:16:24.800 --> 01:16:30.359
a higher position or whatever. It's
just done, all right. But that

941
01:16:30.479 --> 01:16:35.760
initiation was for a special group called
chaos, the Chaos Crew, and it

942
01:16:35.920 --> 01:16:40.600
was a it was a group of
individuals that would literally just cause chaos.

943
01:16:42.520 --> 01:16:45.159
And looking back, the reason why
I know that I was meant for such

944
01:16:45.199 --> 01:16:48.359
a thing like that is because of
of the no empathy thing. I had

945
01:16:48.439 --> 01:16:58.560
no empathy, you know, right, So anyways, but so yeah,

946
01:17:00.840 --> 01:17:03.279
but yeah, then you know when
that happened, I got arrested and get

947
01:17:03.359 --> 01:17:08.520
arrested when you went when you went
to run the store. Yeah, at

948
01:17:08.560 --> 01:17:12.760
twelve years old. So I got
arrested. Yeah, I got arrested at

949
01:17:12.760 --> 01:17:15.840
twelve years old, and like legit, you know, the cops handcuffed me

950
01:17:16.039 --> 01:17:21.439
and it was a very very embarrassing
experience, really communicate, humiliating, and

951
01:17:23.119 --> 01:17:28.880
I was walked in procession around the
store the police officer. So when my

952
01:17:28.960 --> 01:17:33.600
dad showed up, When my dad
showed up, he uh, you know,

953
01:17:33.680 --> 01:17:35.680
he told I mean and rightly.
So I learned my lesson from it.

954
01:17:35.720 --> 01:17:39.520
But you know, he told the
police officer to walk around the store

955
01:17:39.560 --> 01:17:45.319
embarrass me, blah blah blah.
And then I get arrested when i'm I'm

956
01:17:45.560 --> 01:17:49.119
I got a house arrest and then
I was not supposed to go more than

957
01:17:49.119 --> 01:17:54.439
a mile from my house. Well, the very next day I go out

958
01:17:54.880 --> 01:17:59.880
because my elder sibling, I guess
what they would call it, like he

959
01:18:00.119 --> 01:18:01.000
was a part of he was a
part of the occult group. He was

960
01:18:01.039 --> 01:18:09.319
from another family. He invited me
out to go ride motorcycles and I crashed

961
01:18:09.399 --> 01:18:12.760
really bad. I broke my back
in a couple of places. I had

962
01:18:12.760 --> 01:18:15.560
a fracture on my neck. I
punctured my lung. Geez, I broke

963
01:18:15.640 --> 01:18:21.960
my pelvis, like, I smashed
myself really good and in that during that

964
01:18:23.079 --> 01:18:28.319
timeframe, I mean, it was
a really harsh recovery. I almost didn't

965
01:18:28.359 --> 01:18:30.039
survive it. I had an out
of body experience, and that's another story

966
01:18:30.079 --> 01:18:33.000
for a different day. But I
had an out of body experience and kind

967
01:18:33.039 --> 01:18:39.359
of a preface to what was to
come later. And during my recovery,

968
01:18:39.720 --> 01:18:44.520
the message I was told is that
was my body having to be broken to

969
01:18:45.239 --> 01:18:50.279
bring me into the new dawn,
you know, of my life. So

970
01:18:50.640 --> 01:18:55.119
I mean that was a positive message
though, right, because it was the

971
01:18:55.199 --> 01:18:59.960
beginning of the change, right.
Yeah. So anyways, but yeah,

972
01:19:00.039 --> 01:19:05.359
uh, you know, I see
a comment of somebody talking about the number

973
01:19:05.399 --> 01:19:10.520
six one six. There's actually truth
to that as far as those that numerology.

974
01:19:11.039 --> 01:19:14.720
I'm sorry, I just I got
distracted by the comment. Yeah.

975
01:19:15.279 --> 01:19:19.079
Yeah, so I know I know
about I know about the whole six one

976
01:19:19.159 --> 01:19:23.880
six number. I know about the
whole six one six number. But that's

977
01:19:23.960 --> 01:19:27.199
like a whole other discussion, you
know. I mean, so what else,

978
01:19:27.399 --> 01:19:28.560
I mean, what else do you
want to know? Like, what

979
01:19:28.640 --> 01:19:31.119
else would you like to talk about? Well, let's see I mean we

980
01:19:31.760 --> 01:19:34.479
let me I have some notes here
and I'm actually going to go back this

981
01:19:34.640 --> 01:19:40.439
too real quick. So you did
some in things with the rituals. We

982
01:19:40.520 --> 01:19:46.079
talked about that seeing things shape shift
into features. That was that was that's

983
01:19:46.159 --> 01:19:49.079
a pretty interesting thing because that goes
right into the skin walker thing, right,

984
01:19:49.159 --> 01:19:54.720
I mean, that's that's a that's
pretty that's pretty deep. And when

985
01:19:54.760 --> 01:19:59.880
you were doing your rituals, I'm
trying to see if there's any other commonalities

986
01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:03.319
between this and what I learned from
Babylonian magic. You know, the circle

987
01:20:03.359 --> 01:20:06.319
would be you know, cornstarch or
some kind of flour or something like that.

988
01:20:06.800 --> 01:20:12.319
When they did theirs, there would
obviously be candles of fire or whatever,

989
01:20:12.439 --> 01:20:15.000
but there's also usually a wax figurine
that's involved. And then there's the

990
01:20:15.039 --> 01:20:20.199
different color strings that you would tie
blue meaning signifying something with like I think

991
01:20:20.279 --> 01:20:24.920
health or something like that, and
then different types of strings for trying to

992
01:20:25.000 --> 01:20:30.159
cause. There's not a whole lot
of that of that I learned about how

993
01:20:30.239 --> 01:20:33.800
to just you know, help and
heal. But I guess you could use

994
01:20:33.840 --> 01:20:36.920
something in like the reverse method of
what they were saying. But it's usually

995
01:20:36.960 --> 01:20:43.199
about imposing your will in some way
something from it, whether it's and and

996
01:20:43.319 --> 01:20:45.760
I've also heard that, you know, when it comes to people's like feelings

997
01:20:45.800 --> 01:20:51.720
and emotions, that messing with that
can get really dangerous and screwed up at

998
01:20:51.800 --> 01:20:56.760
times. There was another one other
thing though that I wanted to add.

999
01:20:56.800 --> 01:20:59.840
So, so those things were elements
that you use, you used that would

1000
01:20:59.920 --> 01:21:02.199
use is like a figure reading of
some sort when you're using these doing these

1001
01:21:02.239 --> 01:21:09.640
things well mine, Yeah, I
don't know, this is gonna sound really

1002
01:21:09.640 --> 01:21:16.079
strange, but you actually this is
the first time he's saying this. So

1003
01:21:16.199 --> 01:21:27.720
it's for me to talk about when
you're when you get to a certain point,

1004
01:21:27.840 --> 01:21:30.439
you know, you you you can
choose a skill. You know,

1005
01:21:30.600 --> 01:21:33.560
certain people get you know, some
people get a skill of or you or

1006
01:21:33.600 --> 01:21:40.319
you discover your skills. Some people
get the skill of mediumship. Some people

1007
01:21:40.479 --> 01:21:45.359
get the skill of being a shaman, you know, healer. Some people

1008
01:21:45.520 --> 01:21:51.439
get uh, you know, there's
different different aspects of that. But I'm

1009
01:21:51.439 --> 01:21:54.920
sorry, I don't mean to put
off like Sean like to be able to

1010
01:21:54.960 --> 01:21:58.880
be a healer sounds like a reward, you know, And it's like when

1011
01:21:58.880 --> 01:22:01.159
you're doing something so nega to get
there, who's giving you that power,

1012
01:22:02.399 --> 01:22:06.960
right? What purpose? You know
that that's always I've been a question and

1013
01:22:08.359 --> 01:22:11.079
that's one thing that I really you
know, that's one thing. And here's

1014
01:22:11.159 --> 01:22:15.319
where my here's what my cognitive distance, here's why my cognitive dissonance kind of

1015
01:22:15.359 --> 01:22:27.279
still catches me. Okay m hm. Because when I was experiencing all those

1016
01:22:27.359 --> 01:22:33.079
things, I found there was there
was a sense of pleasure in it.

1017
01:22:34.720 --> 01:22:40.840
Because when because when all of your
because when all of your identity is stripped

1018
01:22:40.880 --> 01:22:46.840
away and all of the good in
you is literally ripped away from you boundless,

1019
01:22:47.760 --> 01:22:56.399
like like it was for me right
getting raped violently. Yeah, then

1020
01:22:56.600 --> 01:23:01.880
like you're in so much pain that
you know less painful things are going to

1021
01:23:02.000 --> 01:23:05.840
be make you feel better because at
least it's not hurting as bad as you're

1022
01:23:05.920 --> 01:23:10.880
hurt. So the point is to
break you beyond recognition, like you can't

1023
01:23:11.279 --> 01:23:16.000
so you can't think, function or
exist. It's awful, man, I'm

1024
01:23:16.000 --> 01:23:21.399
sorry, so but so yeah,
for me though, the ritual that I

1025
01:23:21.520 --> 01:23:27.880
did was I picked up a skateboard. You know, in my life,

1026
01:23:28.039 --> 01:23:34.720
I manifested a skateboard because you know, I've seen which I've seen, which

1027
01:23:34.760 --> 01:23:39.319
is levitate. You know, I've
seen I've seen them. I've seen them

1028
01:23:39.399 --> 01:23:44.479
make a pentagram in the sand,
you know, with their various chemicals,

1029
01:23:45.279 --> 01:23:47.359
you know, burn their you know, burn their purple flame in the middle,

1030
01:23:47.399 --> 01:23:53.760
and literally literally levitate, and they
could do these magical things. And

1031
01:23:53.840 --> 01:23:58.119
I'm like, whoa, that's crazy. It's also kind of cool, you

1032
01:23:58.199 --> 01:24:00.640
know, when you're when you're a
kid, and that's your airdeim and you

1033
01:24:00.199 --> 01:24:03.960
like see somebody like turn into a
ball of fire. Like, I know

1034
01:24:04.079 --> 01:24:10.960
that sounds crazy, but that's insane, like things that you what things people

1035
01:24:11.199 --> 01:24:15.680
perceive, you know. Anyways,
i'n't going to that. So for me,

1036
01:24:15.880 --> 01:24:20.920
I picked up I picked up a
skateboard and and that became my magic

1037
01:24:21.039 --> 01:24:26.239
Wand you know you mentioned, you
know, you saw, you know,

1038
01:24:26.319 --> 01:24:29.880
some of my skateboard stuff on Instagram. You know. Yeah. Uh.

1039
01:24:30.039 --> 01:24:32.680
I started skating when I was ten, and by the time I was fifteen,

1040
01:24:32.920 --> 01:24:36.239
I was a professional skateboarder. Now, just like with celebrities, you

1041
01:24:36.399 --> 01:24:41.199
have like A celebrities and B celebrities
and C celebrities, you know, so

1042
01:24:41.359 --> 01:24:44.680
I was like a C celebrity,
maybe even a D you know, I

1043
01:24:44.760 --> 01:24:48.239
got sponsored when I was fourteen.
I skateboarded NonStop. You know, when

1044
01:24:48.279 --> 01:24:54.800
I was awake, I was skating
rights cool, and that's kind of what

1045
01:24:55.039 --> 01:25:00.520
allowed me to impress my identity on
my existence. So what I've known for

1046
01:25:00.680 --> 01:25:04.079
the longest is that skateboarding and I
do I connected with it in such a

1047
01:25:04.159 --> 01:25:15.000
way where like it literally was my
you know, it was my figuringe and

1048
01:25:15.560 --> 01:25:19.760
and so uh that's what I would
use and I would like, you know,

1049
01:25:19.960 --> 01:25:23.920
damn near worship the thing, you
know. So anyways, but yeah,

1050
01:25:23.960 --> 01:25:28.520
I mean in the more ritualistic stuff, when we were doing like realistic

1051
01:25:28.720 --> 01:25:31.279
magic, there were there would be
you know, there would be candles,

1052
01:25:31.399 --> 01:25:35.159
there would be you know, those
candles typically had a shape of you know,

1053
01:25:35.239 --> 01:25:43.399
whatever it was that you're you know, going after. So but really

1054
01:25:43.479 --> 01:25:46.279
a lot of it was like using
nature. So like one of the things,

1055
01:25:46.359 --> 01:25:50.039
one of the big things was like
you know, taking payoty, right,

1056
01:25:50.199 --> 01:25:57.560
taking payoty and having a connection,
you know, and that was an

1057
01:25:57.600 --> 01:26:00.560
experience on its own. I don't
know if I answered your question correctly,

1058
01:26:00.640 --> 01:26:10.640
but no, you did. You
did, so this you don't have to

1059
01:26:10.680 --> 01:26:13.920
answer this if you do want to, because I understand that you had been

1060
01:26:13.960 --> 01:26:19.119
brutalized. But was there also an
early time where they had kind of pushed

1061
01:26:19.119 --> 01:26:24.079
you together with a female and made
that happen to like like a sex ritual

1062
01:26:24.279 --> 01:26:27.640
or anything like that. Did that
ever occur? Yes? Actually it did.

1063
01:26:28.920 --> 01:26:33.239
It did. Yeah, interesting that
Yeah, so no, that did

1064
01:26:33.359 --> 01:26:41.399
happen. That's how I officially lost
my virginity, right so to speak.

1065
01:26:42.520 --> 01:26:48.359
Uh uh, it was you know, it was you know, basically a

1066
01:26:48.479 --> 01:26:55.479
gunpoint. I mean, you know
while people watched. Yeah, yeah,

1067
01:26:55.800 --> 01:26:58.720
and you know, even as a
kid like you know, five six seven,

1068
01:26:59.520 --> 01:27:02.239
you know, was forced to sit
in a room and watch you know,

1069
01:27:02.399 --> 01:27:10.000
ritualistic sex magic happen, you know, and you know it just it

1070
01:27:10.039 --> 01:27:15.159
shouldn't you know. I was.
It was horrifying. There's so many commonalities

1071
01:27:15.479 --> 01:27:18.000
that it just blows my mind.
And because you're telling you, I'm basically

1072
01:27:18.079 --> 01:27:21.640
what I'm the impression that I'm getting
is this is basically coming from your mom's

1073
01:27:21.680 --> 01:27:25.520
side of the of the of the
table right here, not so much even

1074
01:27:25.560 --> 01:27:30.319
the Roman Catholic stuff where you could
have fallen into an abusive thing right there

1075
01:27:30.399 --> 01:27:33.479
with the Friese too, just as
easily, and there would have been all

1076
01:27:33.560 --> 01:27:41.319
kinds of mithray Ins and other types
of influences in that. And it's yeah,

1077
01:27:41.520 --> 01:27:45.159
man. But no matter where it
comes from, all the elements are

1078
01:27:45.199 --> 01:27:48.479
the same. It's it's mind blowing
right. And and when when I was

1079
01:27:48.600 --> 01:27:55.520
five, when I was five,
it was whispered in my ear by one

1080
01:27:55.560 --> 01:28:00.760
of the ladies that actually abused me, and I can only I recognize her

1081
01:28:00.840 --> 01:28:01.840
voice. But at this point I
knew how she was because I would get

1082
01:28:01.880 --> 01:28:05.039
locked in a closet. I would
get locked in a dark closet and people

1083
01:28:05.039 --> 01:28:10.680
would come and I'd be in there
for hours. But anyways, she whispered

1084
01:28:10.760 --> 01:28:12.560
in my ear. She was saying, God is going to make you a

1085
01:28:12.640 --> 01:28:19.159
priest. You're born into the priest
You're born into the priesthood. So she

1086
01:28:19.279 --> 01:28:21.520
says, He's gonna call you and
there's gonna be things that are going to

1087
01:28:21.600 --> 01:28:28.399
happen that you're not going to understand, but just trust God. Do you

1088
01:28:28.520 --> 01:28:30.600
think that this is a path on
the way there? Like, do you

1089
01:28:30.640 --> 01:28:33.479
think this is still part of their
manipulation over I was being groomed? Man?

1090
01:28:34.000 --> 01:28:39.000
Yeah, you know what I mean, Like whether they knew it or

1091
01:28:39.079 --> 01:28:43.640
not as a collective, like you
know, I was. I was groomed.

1092
01:28:45.239 --> 01:28:50.399
I was groomed to be a victim. And now the reason where I'm

1093
01:28:50.399 --> 01:28:55.720
at now is because I escaped out
of that. I took the journey out

1094
01:28:55.760 --> 01:29:00.600
of shame of that identity, and
I took control of my own life.

1095
01:29:01.520 --> 01:29:05.920
And that takes a lot of strength
and courage. And I mean without a

1096
01:29:06.039 --> 01:29:10.920
compass almost because I mean that they
smash that compass when you were young,

1097
01:29:11.600 --> 01:29:15.800
to be able to navigate yourself out
of there just by itself as a miracle.

1098
01:29:16.760 --> 01:29:19.119
One other thing I have to ask, So, I mean, does

1099
01:29:19.199 --> 01:29:26.680
this still play a role in your
life, like between your family, like

1100
01:29:26.920 --> 01:29:29.680
not only in those family, but
like your children or whatever. Is it

1101
01:29:29.800 --> 01:29:31.920
hard to connect with other human beings? Is it hard to have empathy and

1102
01:29:32.439 --> 01:29:35.199
care for them? Or is that
beyond you? Is that passed you now?

1103
01:29:35.239 --> 01:29:41.399
After the Oh yeah, no,
I've uh that's a good questions too

1104
01:29:41.479 --> 01:29:43.720
much too, it's not it's not
you don't have to answer either. No,

1105
01:29:43.880 --> 01:29:45.119
it's not too much. No,
it's I know that I know that

1106
01:29:45.159 --> 01:29:48.560
there's some of my family that's watching
this right now. So I'm happy to

1107
01:29:49.840 --> 01:29:59.600
talk about this openly. Yes,
I'm able to feel empathy now. I

1108
01:29:59.720 --> 01:30:04.800
have able to I have been able
to rewrite neurons in my mind, in

1109
01:30:04.880 --> 01:30:14.680
my brain, physical neural pathways that
have reconnected my prefrontal cortex to the hard

1110
01:30:14.760 --> 01:30:18.600
drive of my brain. And because
of that, I'm able to critically think

1111
01:30:18.720 --> 01:30:25.159
now. And because I can critically
think, I'm able to experience emotion.

1112
01:30:26.239 --> 01:30:30.000
And through the therapy I've been that
I've been been grateful to have gone through,

1113
01:30:30.720 --> 01:30:40.439
I'm able to identify what emotions like
empathy are. So it is for

1114
01:30:40.640 --> 01:30:46.399
me, it's a continual practice for
me. It's a it's it's a new

1115
01:30:46.560 --> 01:30:55.000
magic ritual for me to practice empathy, because if I don't practice empathy,

1116
01:30:56.039 --> 01:31:01.840
then you know, I become very
destructive. And you know I lost you

1117
01:31:01.960 --> 01:31:09.439
know, during my years of PTSD
and recovery, I was married and had

1118
01:31:09.479 --> 01:31:15.640
two young children, and my marriage
did not survive it. My ex wife,

1119
01:31:15.840 --> 01:31:24.800
she witnessed some atrocious things as I
recovered in the from this occultic chain

1120
01:31:24.920 --> 01:31:29.079
that I was in. Really,
I don't know if that makes sense.

1121
01:31:30.720 --> 01:31:33.359
Uh say that one more time,
because I want to make sure I heard

1122
01:31:33.399 --> 01:31:42.119
you correctly with the last part with
that year, well, me losing my

1123
01:31:42.239 --> 01:31:45.800
family unlocked the chain, the the
occultic chain that I've been locked in,

1124
01:31:46.600 --> 01:31:53.600
right, w was she part of
that world beforehand or now? My ex

1125
01:31:53.680 --> 01:31:57.439
wife. Yeah, no, no, no, no, she had she

1126
01:31:57.520 --> 01:32:01.720
had no involvement. I've actually met
her in California. Okay, yeah,

1127
01:32:03.000 --> 01:32:12.359
and yeah, so yeah, and
but now you know, now I'm able

1128
01:32:12.399 --> 01:32:19.960
to experience peace and happiness and kindness
and self control. You know, I've

1129
01:32:20.000 --> 01:32:27.840
been able to conquer my addictions that
yeah, you know, I was.

1130
01:32:28.079 --> 01:32:32.000
I was, you know, obviously
severely addicted to drugs, all kinds of

1131
01:32:32.119 --> 01:32:39.680
drugs. I was severely addicted to
pornography and sex. I mean at the

1132
01:32:40.039 --> 01:32:42.920
age like that, there's no other
way for you to have been. You

1133
01:32:43.000 --> 01:32:46.439
know, well, it was a
safe place for me. You understood that

1134
01:32:46.520 --> 01:32:56.119
world, right, So do you
still experience from you know, being disconnected

1135
01:32:56.119 --> 01:33:00.199
from these people. Do you still
experience any what you would perceive and able

1136
01:33:00.239 --> 01:33:06.000
to identify as like a psychic attack
from them trying to message you. Yes,

1137
01:33:09.039 --> 01:33:17.199
currently, I'm in the process of
breaking you know, the ancient spiritual

1138
01:33:17.239 --> 01:33:23.119
bloodline. I know that sounds really
weird. No, it doesn't what you're

1139
01:33:23.119 --> 01:33:29.560
saying, But but I I know
through this enlightenment or whatever you want to

1140
01:33:29.600 --> 01:33:32.600
call it, that I've had and
I'm not going to say like I'm a

1141
01:33:32.640 --> 01:33:36.399
luminant confirm or anything like that I'm
definitely not a part of that. But

1142
01:33:40.199 --> 01:33:45.159
but I do feel like I have
awakened to myself and and be able to

1143
01:33:45.880 --> 01:33:54.560
have self autonomy. So like,
in a in a weird way, I'm

1144
01:33:54.720 --> 01:34:00.479
I'm finally beginning to what it feels
like to be human again. Do you

1145
01:34:00.600 --> 01:34:05.960
think that they're manipulating anything as far
as your luck in life by any of

1146
01:34:06.039 --> 01:34:13.439
their efforts? You know, I've
had I've had my suspicions, you know,

1147
01:34:13.720 --> 01:34:15.840
over the last few years. Uh, you know, i feel like

1148
01:34:15.920 --> 01:34:18.920
I've well, i feel like I'm
I don't know if this might be kind

1149
01:34:18.920 --> 01:34:23.960
of too out there to say this, but I kind of feel like I'm

1150
01:34:24.000 --> 01:34:30.439
going through another type of initiation.
I feel one where my life is being

1151
01:34:30.520 --> 01:34:41.960
dismantled yet again, and there just
seems to be things that I notice,

1152
01:34:42.840 --> 01:34:48.039
and I have this feeling or connection
that it's coming from the side of the

1153
01:34:48.119 --> 01:34:53.159
family that wants to stay in the
dark, if that makes sense. Yeah,

1154
01:34:54.279 --> 01:34:57.199
Yeah, that's that's a tough thing, man, And to con and

1155
01:34:57.279 --> 01:35:00.359
to conceal the darkness, you know, to to stay hidden. And so

1156
01:35:00.199 --> 01:35:02.640
you know, I've got I've honestly, I've gotten a lot of pushback,

1157
01:35:02.720 --> 01:35:06.239
you know, I've I've gotten a
lot of you know, pushback of like,

1158
01:35:06.319 --> 01:35:09.039
hey, you know, like,
are you sure you really want to,

1159
01:35:10.520 --> 01:35:15.079
you know, go public with this
knowledge and talk about your life,

1160
01:35:15.239 --> 01:35:21.399
you know, right, extended families
saying like, you know, don't just

1161
01:35:21.479 --> 01:35:25.760
you know, just be careful.
Do you think that was a threat or

1162
01:35:26.279 --> 01:35:32.880
a warning of care both? Yeah? I think it might be right because

1163
01:35:39.479 --> 01:35:44.439
yeah, you know, I have
been attacked. You know, I have

1164
01:35:44.600 --> 01:35:50.920
been. I have been, and
it's it's very difficult. But but being

1165
01:35:50.960 --> 01:35:55.520
in a position of like and this
is why I encourage people, and this

1166
01:35:55.640 --> 01:35:59.840
is why I go through this mantra
every day when I look at myself in

1167
01:35:59.880 --> 01:36:04.159
the mirror. And that's another thing. I've been able to look myself in

1168
01:36:04.239 --> 01:36:08.680
the mirror. Actually, for the
first time over the last several years,

1169
01:36:08.680 --> 01:36:11.159
I've been able to look at myself
in the mirror. There were years where

1170
01:36:11.159 --> 01:36:15.359
I couldn't even look at my reflection. But that's just a side note.

1171
01:36:15.399 --> 01:36:20.840
But you know, this is why
I tell people that the only thing that

1172
01:36:21.079 --> 01:36:30.960
can make me feel, think,
or act in any way is me correct

1173
01:36:31.000 --> 01:36:39.960
I am in control. And because
I'm in control of my reality, then

1174
01:36:40.039 --> 01:36:44.800
those that are in it, I'm
grateful because they are there to provide me

1175
01:36:44.960 --> 01:36:50.800
with an additional piece of knowledge that
I am running towards and the reason why.

1176
01:36:50.880 --> 01:36:56.119
Like on my Instagram, my last
on my stream I did, I

1177
01:36:56.199 --> 01:36:58.399
said that I think I found the
truth. Well, I found the truth

1178
01:36:58.439 --> 01:37:02.720
in myself and hearing programs like yours, you know, hearing about I think

1179
01:37:02.760 --> 01:37:05.119
it was with niche or I can't
remember. I've listened to so many of

1180
01:37:05.199 --> 01:37:12.479
your shows now where it talks about
the biggest lie is time. Yeah,

1181
01:37:13.800 --> 01:37:17.600
yeah, she said that for sure. Yeah. I mean for me,

1182
01:37:17.960 --> 01:37:23.000
I've had multiple death experiences, I've
had multiple out of body experiences. I've

1183
01:37:23.079 --> 01:37:28.279
seen things of high strangeness. I've
seen things that don't make sense. I've

1184
01:37:28.720 --> 01:37:35.079
you know, and then in twenty
twenty, the earth stood still, and

1185
01:37:35.199 --> 01:37:39.079
then to me it was like,
you know what, I started to realize

1186
01:37:39.119 --> 01:37:43.680
that time really doesn't exist, and
so if I when I got over the

1187
01:37:43.760 --> 01:37:47.079
fear of dying, knowing the fact
that you know that is going to come

1188
01:37:47.159 --> 01:37:51.520
at some point and who knows,
right, I've already seen death. And

1189
01:37:51.560 --> 01:37:55.319
each time I've woken up from death, the two times that I have,

1190
01:37:56.000 --> 01:38:03.359
my reality has gotten better. I've
learned something different and around someone's trying to

1191
01:38:03.399 --> 01:38:05.960
help you back on the other side, you know, and it seems like

1192
01:38:06.000 --> 01:38:11.119
they got you over here now something. You know, honestly, I think

1193
01:38:11.199 --> 01:38:16.920
that person is me, you working
for you and you. Except this is

1194
01:38:16.920 --> 01:38:23.840
the other thing that Christian's Knife bump
heads with is that, yes, you

1195
01:38:23.920 --> 01:38:26.880
know, you have something within you
from God, but it's all up on

1196
01:38:27.159 --> 01:38:30.840
up to you to choose to work
with it or not work with it.

1197
01:38:30.960 --> 01:38:34.000
Right, So, at the end
of the day, you know, and

1198
01:38:34.239 --> 01:38:39.399
whenever everybody does anything good or spectacular
and they put throughout put forth all this

1199
01:38:39.520 --> 01:38:43.199
effort that you know, they go
on stage and they thank God. Well,

1200
01:38:43.279 --> 01:38:45.880
I mean, yeah, that's great, and that's good, and that's

1201
01:38:45.960 --> 01:38:47.920
true, But what about all the
craft that you did to get it there

1202
01:38:47.960 --> 01:38:49.760
too, you know what I mean? Like, so you got to kind

1203
01:38:49.760 --> 01:38:53.960
of put them both together there you're
right right, and see and that and

1204
01:38:54.119 --> 01:38:57.760
that's done. That's done right there, that is done. That's part of

1205
01:38:57.800 --> 01:39:03.239
the deception, seem to give away, to give away the credit to vapor

1206
01:39:03.319 --> 01:39:08.039
Basically, if you're not really believing, I let people say things thank God,

1207
01:39:08.439 --> 01:39:11.359
they're pretty much saying it, because
I think that this would expect people

1208
01:39:11.399 --> 01:39:14.520
to hear at this point, you
know what I mean, rather than because

1209
01:39:14.560 --> 01:39:16.920
it comes off maybe like self conceited
to say, yeah, I did a

1210
01:39:16.960 --> 01:39:19.880
good job, you know I did. I breaked my butt off for that

1211
01:39:20.039 --> 01:39:24.039
or whatever. M M. Yeah. Now you know, in my in

1212
01:39:24.159 --> 01:39:29.199
my overall belief at this moment,
excuse my overall belief in this moment,

1213
01:39:30.000 --> 01:39:32.600
is that, yes, there is
an almighty source that connects us together.

1214
01:39:32.800 --> 01:39:35.600
Okay, yeah, I mean if
that one thing, if you could see

1215
01:39:35.640 --> 01:39:39.079
the supernatural, one thing, there's
got to be the opposite, right,

1216
01:39:39.159 --> 01:39:41.880
like if you saw the dark,
you gotta there's gotta be something else right,

1217
01:39:42.119 --> 01:39:45.760
right, right. But it's but
it's much more complicated than anybody can

1218
01:39:45.840 --> 01:39:48.640
never understand, you can ever understand. Are you familiar with the term called

1219
01:39:48.760 --> 01:39:54.239
a fractal? Yes, yes,
it's actually on the cover of I was

1220
01:39:54.279 --> 01:39:58.359
wearing the Strokes T shirt last night
and in a video and the Strokes and

1221
01:39:58.399 --> 01:40:03.479
there is this it is it's a
picture zoom in. The more complicated it

1222
01:40:03.520 --> 01:40:08.159
gets in this expense, yea.
And those fractals, you know, I

1223
01:40:08.239 --> 01:40:12.319
notice on on social media the fractals
are getting more like popular, you know,

1224
01:40:12.359 --> 01:40:15.039
where people just watch these videos and
just zoom in and zoom in.

1225
01:40:15.640 --> 01:40:19.439
Like to me, if I were
to try to conceptualize God in a way

1226
01:40:19.520 --> 01:40:25.199
for people to truly understand it,
he's a fractal or it's a fractal or

1227
01:40:25.239 --> 01:40:29.239
whatever it is the Gods to it, right, Yeah, yeah, right,

1228
01:40:29.359 --> 01:40:32.560
it's a it's a fractal because it's
never ending, and it's never understandable

1229
01:40:33.319 --> 01:40:36.439
at least at least not while we're
in this form, right, at least

1230
01:40:36.439 --> 01:40:39.439
what we're in this form, at
least right at least while we're in this

1231
01:40:39.560 --> 01:40:43.119
form. But but what I'm saying
is that if you, if we as

1232
01:40:43.239 --> 01:40:48.159
human beings, can get to a
point where we can surpass fear mhm and

1233
01:40:48.359 --> 01:40:54.640
realize that not only is time a
lie, okay, but death is also

1234
01:40:54.720 --> 01:40:59.640
a lie. I'm with you on
that because a couple of things have happened

1235
01:40:59.640 --> 01:41:03.600
in my life for I would tell
you that I feel like it's I don't

1236
01:41:03.600 --> 01:41:08.199
even know if there's like a break
in between. No, there's not,

1237
01:41:09.720 --> 01:41:14.199
really not. And so I think
that you know, those are parts of

1238
01:41:14.760 --> 01:41:17.520
the great deception. And and and
just one last thing on this is,

1239
01:41:19.319 --> 01:41:21.479
you know, growing up in the
Christian Church, and you know, my

1240
01:41:21.560 --> 01:41:25.000
dad being a pastor and learning what
I learned about the Bible, and you

1241
01:41:25.079 --> 01:41:28.159
know where I got passionate about reading
the Bible. You know, they talk

1242
01:41:28.199 --> 01:41:31.800
about the rapture, okay, which
is really not It's that word is not

1243
01:41:31.920 --> 01:41:35.800
mentioned in the Bible, right right, thank you there, And a lot

1244
01:41:35.840 --> 01:41:39.199
of a lot of Christians say,
oh, the raptures in the Bible.

1245
01:41:39.279 --> 01:41:43.079
No, the word rapture is not
in the Bible. But there is there

1246
01:41:43.239 --> 01:41:45.479
is a term and I don't recall
it, I have it in front of

1247
01:41:45.560 --> 01:41:48.199
me, but there is a term
a verse that says that in this that

1248
01:41:48.279 --> 01:41:56.600
God will gather up, He will
rise up right the people into this up

1249
01:41:56.680 --> 01:42:00.199
unto the heavens with him, that
will ascend into heaven with him, okay,

1250
01:42:00.399 --> 01:42:04.119
and be caught up it says,
it says, well the original like

1251
01:42:04.359 --> 01:42:09.439
look at the original translations. So
that actually needs to awaken and there's that

1252
01:42:09.479 --> 01:42:13.960
says happened blinking in a twinkling of
an eye or a blink it back right

1253
01:42:14.880 --> 01:42:17.640
or in that text. Yeah,
Well, when well, when somebody is

1254
01:42:17.800 --> 01:42:24.119
when somebody is coming into their awakening
from the system, from the slave system

1255
01:42:24.159 --> 01:42:28.279
that we're in, when they come
to an awakening, what do you do

1256
01:42:28.359 --> 01:42:30.960
when you wake up, you blink
your eye, your eyes twinkle, and

1257
01:42:30.039 --> 01:42:36.279
you wake up into your consciousness.
Okay, yeah, yeah, So so

1258
01:42:36.640 --> 01:42:42.720
I believe that I believe that the
rapture, if that's what you want to

1259
01:42:42.760 --> 01:42:49.880
call it, right, is actually
happening now. Yeah yeah, And then

1260
01:42:50.079 --> 01:42:54.760
when there is enough of a collective
see because what we're happening, will we're

1261
01:42:55.319 --> 01:42:57.960
you know, what we're seeing here
in my opinion, in my viewpoint,

1262
01:42:58.119 --> 01:43:01.840
what I've studied in the text is
referring to the Judeo texts of the canon,

1263
01:43:02.199 --> 01:43:05.239
you know, and looking at the
Book of Genesis, it shows it

1264
01:43:05.319 --> 01:43:09.560
says that you know, in the
beginning, he created the heavens and earth,

1265
01:43:09.600 --> 01:43:13.720
and he separated the light in the
darkness. Right when he separates the

1266
01:43:13.840 --> 01:43:17.479
light in the darkness, that word
separation, the original translation for that is

1267
01:43:18.119 --> 01:43:27.479
divorce. The exactly the great right
he divorced himself from the darkness. So

1268
01:43:27.840 --> 01:43:30.720
you're familiar with the great divorce.
I've heard you talk about that, But

1269
01:43:30.800 --> 01:43:36.560
what what are some of your thoughts
on that? Well, so this kind

1270
01:43:36.600 --> 01:43:44.119
of goes into like the dream type
of realm too, because it's like what

1271
01:43:44.680 --> 01:43:47.319
when you think about when you're talking
about with time, the one one of

1272
01:43:47.359 --> 01:43:51.640
the other ways I used to uh
express it is that because I used to

1273
01:43:51.680 --> 01:43:55.600
be an electrician, so I would
think about it in those terms where like

1274
01:43:55.680 --> 01:44:00.439
you're in a circuit, right,
and or you're in just energy is electricity

1275
01:44:00.560 --> 01:44:02.920
or whatever or just however you want
to look at it. But if you're

1276
01:44:03.000 --> 01:44:08.439
in a conduit, if you would
and you're or a conductor, right and

1277
01:44:08.479 --> 01:44:13.479
you're going through you hit a resistor, and your perception of time happened is

1278
01:44:13.600 --> 01:44:18.000
just because everything's slowing down in this
time period before you blast off into space

1279
01:44:18.039 --> 01:44:23.000
again as far as like super fast, So everything is happening kind of at

1280
01:44:23.079 --> 01:44:27.479
once, but kind of not because
it's all based on the mind's perception of

1281
01:44:27.520 --> 01:44:30.079
how it's going down. So all
of reality could be also in a blink

1282
01:44:30.079 --> 01:44:33.439
of an eye, but to us
it's this big, long train of things

1283
01:44:33.479 --> 01:44:43.239
that are occurring. So from that, like the great divorce would be that

1284
01:44:43.520 --> 01:44:49.279
loss of knowing self and true self
during that period before it all comes back

1285
01:44:49.279 --> 01:44:55.920
together again, right right, and
that and that wraps it in with so

1286
01:44:56.079 --> 01:44:58.840
are we God? Are we?
So? In a sense like those people

1287
01:44:58.840 --> 01:45:00.920
who say man is God, they're
saying it in the wrong way, with

1288
01:45:01.039 --> 01:45:05.680
the wrong mindset. But in a
sense we're here so that God can basically

1289
01:45:05.720 --> 01:45:12.239
experience himself possibly, but also because
it's this anomaly or whatever you want to

1290
01:45:12.279 --> 01:45:17.680
call it, intentional whatever, but
it's that separation, the great divorce that

1291
01:45:17.800 --> 01:45:20.199
like like I even hear it in
the music, like I was saying before

1292
01:45:20.720 --> 01:45:25.039
that if you look at it the
right way. A lot of times people

1293
01:45:25.119 --> 01:45:28.239
even say God, and you think
they're just saying it like an expression like

1294
01:45:28.560 --> 01:45:30.439
oh God, this sucks, you
know, or something like that, But

1295
01:45:30.560 --> 01:45:32.239
no, they're they're showing their frustration. But in a sense, if you

1296
01:45:32.359 --> 01:45:36.920
just listen to it literal, they're
they're talking about a girl or something like

1297
01:45:38.000 --> 01:45:41.039
that, but in reality they're or
maybe not in reality, but it also

1298
01:45:41.119 --> 01:45:45.880
could be read or perceived as a
longing for being back together with God,

1299
01:45:46.560 --> 01:45:51.279
right or right so or or or
and who's asking for that? The darkness?

1300
01:45:53.079 --> 01:45:56.520
Right? You know? So it's
very strange, very yeah, No,

1301
01:45:56.840 --> 01:46:00.319
there is a well, the mixture, the mixture because we're both right,

1302
01:46:00.399 --> 01:46:03.640
so maybe it's just the good part
of us wanting that and they want

1303
01:46:03.720 --> 01:46:06.760
the separation, because there could also
be the idea of like you know,

1304
01:46:06.800 --> 01:46:11.960
how dead skin cells fall off,
right, So maybe This is like a

1305
01:46:12.479 --> 01:46:16.640
like the ancient shedding, Yeah,
where you get rid of that which isn't

1306
01:46:16.720 --> 01:46:20.279
going to be needed and you know, the purification type of thing. Yeah.

1307
01:46:20.319 --> 01:46:26.359
And then that in that language,
you start getting into eating. Yes,

1308
01:46:26.520 --> 01:46:30.039
well yeah, I mean you get
and you get into terms like Tiamatt.

1309
01:46:30.119 --> 01:46:32.800
Are you familiar with Tiamont? Yeah? Then they bring about the great

1310
01:46:32.880 --> 01:46:36.000
Dragon. Yeah, I talk about
that in my book. Yeah, seven

1311
01:46:36.039 --> 01:46:39.039
headed. You know, I need
to get your book. I apologize I

1312
01:46:39.079 --> 01:46:43.159
have not gotten that book yet,
but definitely, you know, it sounds

1313
01:46:43.199 --> 01:46:45.479
like something I want to read.
But yeah, anyways, but yeah,

1314
01:46:45.520 --> 01:46:49.960
you're getting into tium out there and
the whole the dragon, right, the

1315
01:46:50.079 --> 01:46:55.439
chaos dragon that died and laid in
the deep and that you know, and

1316
01:46:55.520 --> 01:46:58.159
that's what the spirit of God hovers
over the deep and yeah, we can

1317
01:46:58.199 --> 01:47:00.560
go and you know that's a whole
the rabbit hole. But but yeah,

1318
01:47:00.640 --> 01:47:05.960
man, so that's that's kind of
my story in a nutshell. I mean,

1319
01:47:06.000 --> 01:47:10.800
I can I can continue going.
I'm sure sure where you're at,

1320
01:47:11.000 --> 01:47:13.920
you know, with the time or
questions. Yeah, I got to get

1321
01:47:14.000 --> 01:47:16.079
some stuff done. I have a
bunch of Internet orders I have to fulfill,

1322
01:47:16.119 --> 01:47:19.239
and I just heard my daughter came
home, so I'm gonna say hello,

1323
01:47:20.159 --> 01:47:23.399
and uh, I don't know if
you heard my marketing, but that

1324
01:47:23.600 --> 01:47:29.520
was the key. That was that
was that was the cue. But yeah,

1325
01:47:29.680 --> 01:47:30.960
I was. It was a really
great talk, and I'm glad and

1326
01:47:31.079 --> 01:47:35.399
I thank you for being open and
discussing this. And it's it's an eye

1327
01:47:35.439 --> 01:47:41.079
opener to to just see how I
mean, you're a real person. We're

1328
01:47:41.079 --> 01:47:44.479
talking to a real person, had
this real experience who didn't ask for it,

1329
01:47:44.600 --> 01:47:49.399
didn't deserve it, and you're not
a sociopathic killer because of it,

1330
01:47:49.680 --> 01:47:53.520
and you're not going out. Can
I let me let one last question?

1331
01:47:53.720 --> 01:48:00.880
Do you meditate? Do you still
practice certain types of what people rituals?

1332
01:48:00.960 --> 01:48:04.960
Yeah? You do, Yeah,
but the geared for a different purpose now,

1333
01:48:05.319 --> 01:48:08.960
is that yes? And it's like
you said earlier, it's all about

1334
01:48:09.000 --> 01:48:12.119
the intent, right right, right? So my intent, my intent has

1335
01:48:12.239 --> 01:48:15.319
changed. And I think I said
to you that the new family Crest I

1336
01:48:15.399 --> 01:48:17.159
made. But I made a new
family Crest, I made a new I

1337
01:48:17.239 --> 01:48:19.600
made a new schedule for the family. I don't know if I showed you

1338
01:48:19.720 --> 01:48:24.960
that just on the screen. I
thought, I think, okay, no,

1339
01:48:25.000 --> 01:48:27.720
there's another one. I'll send it
to you. Okay, but but

1340
01:48:27.880 --> 01:48:30.279
yeah, so no, so you
are writing your history and changing your blood

1341
01:48:30.319 --> 01:48:32.800
eye. You're even changing the crest
and you're getting rid of the changing the

1342
01:48:32.840 --> 01:48:35.399
crust. Yeah heck yeah, man. And I do meditate. I do

1343
01:48:35.560 --> 01:48:41.159
meditate. So I wake up at
four thirty every morning, and the moment

1344
01:48:41.239 --> 01:48:46.359
I wake up, I go into
a meditative uh trans for about eight minutes.

1345
01:48:49.720 --> 01:48:53.920
That's yeah, that's that takes a
lot of practice. I know you've

1346
01:48:53.920 --> 01:48:56.640
been doing your whole life or whatever, but that's that's not like to just

1347
01:48:56.760 --> 01:48:58.479
be able to do it that quickly. A lot of people take a long

1348
01:48:58.520 --> 01:49:00.199
time and be able to get there, you know, just together to get

1349
01:49:00.239 --> 01:49:04.279
to calm themselves first before they can
do that. That's very good. So

1350
01:49:04.439 --> 01:49:09.119
and I'm kind of in a semi
meditative state all day, you know,

1351
01:49:09.279 --> 01:49:13.800
I have to because you know,
just real quick. I know you got

1352
01:49:13.880 --> 01:49:15.920
to go, but just real quick. So like you know, in my

1353
01:49:15.119 --> 01:49:18.880
last bit of my recovery, when
I when I left there was when I

1354
01:49:19.239 --> 01:49:23.640
when I first got there, they
I diagnosed me with what's called the dark

1355
01:49:23.720 --> 01:49:28.840
triad. It's called it's a it's
a multi they call it d I D

1356
01:49:29.039 --> 01:49:32.039
NOW or a form of it,
but this associated identity disorder. But this

1357
01:49:32.239 --> 01:49:35.640
particular one is called the dark triad. You can google it, look it

1358
01:49:35.720 --> 01:49:42.720
up. So they said that I
was experiencing this you know, specific you

1359
01:49:42.800 --> 01:49:49.159
know, mental health identity. But
that's what I was able to break free

1360
01:49:49.239 --> 01:49:55.720
from. But I still have like
remnant symptoms that occur. So I have

1361
01:49:55.920 --> 01:50:00.359
to always be in a self meditative
state in the background, make making sure

1362
01:50:00.439 --> 01:50:03.079
that my auxiliary functions, I know
this sounds weird, but that my auxiliary

1363
01:50:03.159 --> 01:50:08.920
functions are appropriate for the reality that
I'm in. So I still in my

1364
01:50:09.039 --> 01:50:15.560
existence. I experience a very fractured, you know existence, but I get

1365
01:50:15.640 --> 01:50:19.279
through it daily as much as I
can, and it manifests itself in pain.

1366
01:50:19.439 --> 01:50:28.000
So I have an official diagnosis of
acute fibromyalgia. So so I have

1367
01:50:28.159 --> 01:50:32.800
to endure twenty four hour, NonStop
physical pain. But it keeps me in

1368
01:50:32.880 --> 01:50:39.920
this like ability to you know,
have cognition if you will, do you

1369
01:50:41.199 --> 01:50:45.880
do you take any cannabis or anything
like that to Yeah, yeah, I

1370
01:50:45.039 --> 01:50:51.640
do. I do medicate through CBD
and TC typically in you know gummy for

1371
01:50:51.800 --> 01:51:00.600
my high microdose on that and you
what's up? Check out credim too.

1372
01:51:00.640 --> 01:51:03.760
That might help you. I've heard
of that. I actually just recently heard

1373
01:51:03.760 --> 01:51:06.560
of that, but yeah, and
I will check that out. But like

1374
01:51:06.680 --> 01:51:11.199
I'm almost to the point where I
can honestly let it go, you know,

1375
01:51:11.319 --> 01:51:14.000
like it's it's been like it's been
layers. You know. First it

1376
01:51:14.079 --> 01:51:16.159
was all the crazy, all the
crazy heavy drugs, right, you know.

1377
01:51:16.840 --> 01:51:19.560
And then and then it was like
the alcohol, like I don't really

1378
01:51:19.640 --> 01:51:24.079
drink that much, you know,
like all I'll have a beer here and

1379
01:51:24.119 --> 01:51:28.880
there, and then I've let that
go or letting that go. And I

1380
01:51:28.920 --> 01:51:32.479
feel like the next step is potentially
to let marijuana go, but I don't

1381
01:51:32.520 --> 01:51:38.720
know. We'll see. Let me
just jump the in with that stoke next

1382
01:51:38.800 --> 01:51:42.760
Thursday, b if you have a
chance to, if not, watch it

1383
01:51:42.880 --> 01:51:47.520
afterward. I'm gonna ask doctor Peter
g Lidden about this because there's now two

1384
01:51:47.600 --> 01:51:54.359
different people who have told me maybe
more that through magic rituals in the past,

1385
01:51:54.479 --> 01:52:00.119
they made their blood thick after them, they've made physical problems happened to

1386
01:52:00.159 --> 01:52:04.039
them because of you know, how
how deep they went. And it has

1387
01:52:04.199 --> 01:52:09.720
a lot to do with your physiology
when it comes to like your your your

1388
01:52:09.760 --> 01:52:15.079
minerals and your nutrients. So I'm
almost wondering if the fiber myalgia with the

1389
01:52:15.199 --> 01:52:20.479
property nutrition would subside a little,
because a lot of people go nutrient deficient

1390
01:52:20.520 --> 01:52:24.880
their whole life because the doctors don't
know anything about nutrition, and the problems

1391
01:52:24.920 --> 01:52:28.119
persist. And that's just how it
happened to manifest. So if that could

1392
01:52:28.159 --> 01:52:30.479
trigger and push you into that and
then you kind of got stuck with it,

1393
01:52:31.119 --> 01:52:33.680
because it's almost like your brain is
manifesting it. It sounds like,

1394
01:52:34.520 --> 01:52:40.800
Yeah, So I'm almost wondering if
the proper nutrition and nutrients would actually help

1395
01:52:41.159 --> 01:52:44.159
your body fix itself. And yeah, I was never taught. I was

1396
01:52:44.239 --> 01:52:46.840
never taught how to have nutrition,
so I would be interested. And yeah,

1397
01:52:46.880 --> 01:52:50.760
I definitely listened to that. Yeah, I'll ask him specifically about fibermialogy.

1398
01:52:50.760 --> 01:52:54.680
I know he has it on his
website, so we'll probably go over

1399
01:52:54.800 --> 01:52:58.079
that first thing next time. Right, All, all right, man,

1400
01:52:58.680 --> 01:53:02.600
thank you so much your time,
guys. D code d K O d

1401
01:53:02.760 --> 01:53:06.079
E is how you find him on
Instagram? You do all your streaming from

1402
01:53:06.079 --> 01:53:09.199
there at the moment, right you
haven't, Yeah, at the moment,

1403
01:53:09.279 --> 01:53:13.039
I just I just I just opened
up a Rumble account. It's called one

1404
01:53:13.119 --> 01:53:16.560
two one, but that's that's what
I've got right now. It's uh,

1405
01:53:17.960 --> 01:53:20.560
I think it's yeah, it's one
two one, and it's got a picture

1406
01:53:20.680 --> 01:53:29.119
of like an AI generated cloaked angel
type creature. Yeah. I'm a messenger,

1407
01:53:29.239 --> 01:53:30.560
so that's what that's kind of what
I'm trying to put out there.

1408
01:53:31.119 --> 01:53:33.720
I like it all right, man, Thank you so much for your time.

1409
01:53:33.800 --> 01:53:36.680
Thank you for sharing all this with
us. And I hope that helped

1410
01:53:36.720 --> 01:53:41.119
other people out there who have had
similar experiences, like I know personally,

1411
01:53:42.720 --> 01:53:45.039
let's just say too many, because
it's a it's a sad thing. Too

1412
01:53:45.079 --> 01:53:48.279
many people that I've known for quite
a long time that have had these experiences.

1413
01:53:49.000 --> 01:53:54.399
Yeah, and not all of them
made it as well as you,

1414
01:53:54.520 --> 01:54:00.600
and some of them were quite convinced
that they were fine and it did not

1415
01:54:00.039 --> 01:54:04.000
turn out that way, you know, or something else was going on.

1416
01:54:04.199 --> 01:54:09.000
So yeah, and you know,
if I can say just one thing to

1417
01:54:10.239 --> 01:54:15.960
thank you for this opportunity for the
platform. Yeah, man, it's gets

1418
01:54:15.000 --> 01:54:19.760
more attention on what your what you
your messages too well. Not only not

1419
01:54:19.920 --> 01:54:24.520
only was I was it therapeutic and
helpful for me to be completely transparent,

1420
01:54:25.359 --> 01:54:31.159
but the intention my intent in in
this, in this ritual that we're doing

1421
01:54:31.279 --> 01:54:38.680
now in this medium is to communicate
to the masses that there is hope.

1422
01:54:40.680 --> 01:54:43.000
Yes, I mean, you went
through a lot and you're over here now

1423
01:54:43.199 --> 01:54:46.520
and not living that life, right, so right, there is hope for

1424
01:54:46.760 --> 01:54:50.840
there is hope for healing. There
is hope, and that that healing comes

1425
01:54:50.880 --> 01:54:55.880
through truth. So you're a payer
of that then, and I thank you

1426
01:54:56.000 --> 01:54:58.640
and I appreciate you, and I'm
grateful for you. Thanks for that.

1427
01:54:58.800 --> 01:55:02.119
Man, that was a really nice
of the met uh Greg, great time.

1428
01:55:02.239 --> 01:55:05.159
Thank you. And if you're coming
up with an idea of something else

1429
01:55:05.159 --> 01:55:08.840
you want to discuss in the future, just hit me up, all right,

1430
01:55:08.880 --> 01:55:15.319
man, I appreciate it. In
descrying mirror, yes sir, yes,

1431
01:55:15.359 --> 01:55:19.000
sir, all right, thank you
so so much. You got by.

1432
01:55:19.079 --> 01:55:24.079
You take care and that will wrap
it up for the show tonight,

1433
01:55:24.199 --> 01:55:27.000
guys. I am out. I
gotta make some sauce, as I had

1434
01:55:27.079 --> 01:55:30.119
said, and then I've gotta go
say hello to my daughter. So you

1435
01:55:30.159 --> 01:55:31.159
guys have a great night. Bye.

