Why everyone. Today's a big day because Jason and I, who were former
Team House groupies, have now been elevated to running our own podcast. We're
still on the so at the little table, you know, forty minutes,
but the you know, in all seriousness, this podcast is meant to complement
its big and more sophisticated brother, the Team House. I know that we're
probably not used to hearing the term the team House and sophisticated rolled up in
the same sentence, but it's all relative. So in a moment, we're
going to introduce ourselves. I'm going to talk a little bit, very briefly
about what this podcast is about. Okay, and there's a lot of things
it's not. It's not a part of an echo chamber. Is two guys
who are reasonably well informed from their background, the experience, but most importantly,
I hope have enough emotional intelligence between us not to not to let this
just become a you know again, echo chamber and reciting match. So for
me, I'm Andy, as I said, longtime, longtime Teamhouse groupie and
former marine, former founder of the Mozart group, now washed up doing podcasts
for Ford Talking. Actually, I'm very thrilled to be doing so, Jaysonovid
you Thanks Andy. I'm Jason. I'm also a longtime Teamhouse fan. Jack
and I go back to our days when I worked for him writing for Soft
Rep and we've stayed friends ever since. Met Dave at the Teamhouse as well,
and you know, I've been a guest a few times on there,
co hosted once and I have a background for marine ten years, worked in
nuclear security and then did eight years at CIA or Central Intelligence Agency. And
I'm happy to be here and see where we go with this, right and
then for all women listeners in particular, d I'm Dmitri. Yeah, that's
why I'm here for the sex appeal. I'm Dmitri. I'm the producer of
the Team House, and I think this is gonna be a fun show.
I was a huge fan of when you guys were on the show. I
think you guys did a great job guest hosting the show. And uh,
you know, we were sitting around like what would make sense in terms of
a vertical for the Teamhouse, because we really try to showcase our guests,
would be something that's more topical, more current events driven, you know,
in terms of geopolitics, less so domestic current events, and I think you
two guys would make like a perfect team. The two marine thing I did
not. That's like a happy accident. I guess you can call it.
It wasn't on purpose. You know. Hopefully you guys don't blow it too
bad. Well, yeah, I mean, at least are you bring our
collective IQ up at least to room temperature? Hey, so you know we've
already blown for you a few minutes here. They typically the episode is going
to be about forty to forty five minutes, so about about the length of
a commute or a PT session. And today to jump right into it,
of course, the elephant in the room is the ah the much expected and
assumed to be imminent retaliation strikes that the that the President and the administration had
been talking about delivering against Iran and or proxies and retaliation or the hit by
a drone on Tower twenty two. Jason, what do you do you are
you familiar with Tower twenty two? I am not. I can actually say
that I'm the broad area. I have a little bit of knowledge, but
Tower twenty two I have been trying to catch up on. Okay, cool,
all right, I planted that question on Jason. So that so that
we can talk a little bit about Tower twenty two without appearing to be too
much of a diversion for the more cognizanti among our guests. Okay, so
Tower twenty two is a it's a it's an extremely small If I use the
term base, then you know, I grant I make it so much granded
that it is. It is a combat outposts essentially just within the Jordanian border,
kind of in the triborder area between the rack Syria and Jordan. It's
only about six miles for instance, from the Iraqi border and around the same
actually to the Syrian border. Now it's it's a bit of a shithole.
And you may have this hasn't been used coverage of it yet from the of
the drone strink, but what we are hearing is that it hit a you
accommodation Carter is Now that that makes it sound too grand. I will tell
you that that accommodation quarters not only last time I was there, which was
you know, three years ago, but I'm told even up to until now
was it was nothing like one might expect. But it was heavily sandbagged,
and you know there was there were bunkers available, and all of the all
of the above. It's very easy after an occasion like this to start,
you know, to talk about all the things that went wrong. So typically
there's about three hundred and fifty guys there, three hundred to three hundred and
fifty. That hasn't changed much since we the United States started using Tower twenty
two and late twenty fourteen. And the reason why we use it, the
reason why we have a garrison there is simply to supply another come at our
post called our tenth, which is twenty kimeters twelve miles into Syria. I'm
almost directly north actually a little bit northwest. Now Our tenth is extremely important
to the United States. It's manned by a very small garrison typically in soft
terms and AO B company of M s F guys plus a collection of Indigenous
Indigenous soldiers and Indigenous force Syrians and Andy, what does AOB mean? Yeah
you're here? Yeah, there was a company level heads. You know what?
Uh, you know what? The army SF community is gonna just kill
me. Alpha the Bravo something operating based Bravo, right, AOB? What
does he A stand for? Alpha? No? God? You know what
Okay, I'm going to be lambassed listeners. You're talking about two marines,
but I'll remember what AOB stands for. But essentially it is an army SF
company. Is it an advanced operating based Yeah? Is that you know what?
We've already gonna have like five thousand emails front, yes, okay,
right in the right in the comments they get taken off. Yeah, let
me continue anyway. Al Tam all right, you know all together, and
numbers there vary, but it's seldom above two hundred dudes. Now TAMP has
been manned around the same time since twenty fifteen. The reason why Al Tamp
is important and the reason why we have a small garrison of Special Obersions troops
there, which is a great example by the way of self achieving strategic effect,
is because of its location, all right, not just near the Trient
border region, but it's lies astride the old bad Dad Damascus Highway which is
now which is now a weapons running route. And and you know what,
you've heard this term used many times part of the land bridge, right that
that line has pretty much the facto established between or you know, all the
way to the sea across a rock in Syria. So our tamp is important.
It's a it's a it's a fall in the side of our of the
Syrian regime. It's a fall in the side obviously of Uranians and Russians there
too, But it's of great importance to the US. And because of that
Tower twenty two is important. And why are they all there? While they're
there? Partly, of course, I mean presence in Syria, which is
pretty h the most volatile we thought the most volatile place until it's Rother talk
about price recently. But more importantly, you know, keep an eye on
the Islamic state, but also keep an eye on our on on you know,
the other bad rather adversarial actors in Syria, namely Russia and Iran.
All right, and you know, again when talking about light footprint, heavy
footprint, I think how tamph is exactly you know, well, it's kind
of the what we are seeing across the world and we will continue to see
increasingly as far as US presence, a very light footprint, not a not
not in a typical way. Tason back to you, any any you know,
any anything to to add or ask deep before I go on to I
can talk a little bit about the tach itself and what happened afterwards est as
far so I, you know, me, I look at things from an
intelligence perspective, and where would what would I be thinking? Not necessarily from
the President on down, but at least from the the ambassador, from that
regional you know, command area on down. Uh. And for me,
as soon as I got the word that this is happening as a as an
intelligence agency, I would want to spool up my assets and want to know
we have an idea. You know, the the the media is saying it's
Iran. We pretty much know it is, but I would want to know
solid concrete evidence that it's Iran. So I'd be spoiling my assets. Who
did it? What was that the actual target? What was the endgame here?
You know, try to get those kind of things quite answered so that
when the President and Joint chiefs and everyone else are brief that they have all
the information. And uh. The reason why this show is called eyes on
is because we have you know, you have eyes on the target. We
have eyes on who we think it is. But until we have solid intel,
that's all it is. So that's the kind of stuff that I would
want to be pushing. Yeah, I mean that that's a great that's a
really good point. Glad to hear it, Jason, and I love I'll
bring in one of Jack's favorite terms that you know, when you when you
have a gallery of people howling for uh, you know, hewling for blood
and willing to expend the last drop of other people's blood on the American side
to deferther the cause. You know it, all of us get a get
a little concerned, you know, without being snowflakes. Right, but I
think, well, I do know you know what you say is exactly right.
I mean, it's corroboration and it's removal a plausible deniability from Iran that's
in order to strike into Iran and or even you know Iranian targets goods force,
which we've already done many times Iraqan. But to do it again then
certainly we need that kind of that smoking gun. K not not. I
mean, it's interesting. Peddicon spokesman said this had the hallmarks of kh very
good. Yeah, Katar has follow nothing to do with Big Daddy has followed
and Lebanon katas followed, is a a pro Iranean militia Because you've seen you
know, you've seen a group that no one's ever heard of before, right
the I forget what it was, the Islamic Resistance, whatever it was,
the Army claiming responsibility. But you know, if you've got a Pentagon spokesman
mentioning k H and saying it has the hallmarks of you can bet that there's
some intelligence. But you know that wasn't that wasn't a throwaway line, so
you know what I mean. And I just say, I just want to
talk a little bit about after math of the attack, because I'm not sure
this was in the media. So about an hour after the attack on Tower
twenty two, and you can imagine, you know, the absolute pandemonium there.
I mean, these guys were not I mean, the Army reserve is
certainly not. It's not the same as if a drone had hit our tank.
Let me it that way, you know, it's it must have been
very confusing. Well, and another attack, another drone, some of the
type suspected Iranian made. Not not quite a loitering munition, not that sophisticated,
but it was a you know, it was a one way suicide drone
gave me to attack out tap and was destroyed, all right, by one
of the anti drone systems they had there. I think it was a coyote.
It's a Raythian system. Apparently it's pretty I've heard it's pretty effective.
But if anyone out there has heard differently, please, you know, please
pile in. Which is a kind of a good news story. But but
my point being this was obviously was it was a very well, you know,
it was a planned attack, and and it was you know, it
wasn't just a lucky shot from from some dude in The attack came from within
Iraq. We know that much. So it is conceivable certainly that it was
kh And when people talk about the hallmarks of cage, you know, it
would be not just the type of drone which was at Iranian manufacture, but
it would be various other things, even down perhaps to the operators who used
it. So to be interesting to see now, Jason, you know,
in answer to when you were talking about, yeah, right right on target.
That's it's very easy in kind of the silence after after the strike.
You know that that stun silence for people to be howling in that vacuum.
So we need to do this or that. It's much more difficult to be
in a leadership position, remembering that you you know, you're at the helm
of the United States. It has to be seen to act in a way
that is in constlet with US law. Yes, I know that seldom happens,
but that you know, that is what's going on. And the challengehip
course is the you know, the smoking gun is intent, right, and
did the Iranians intent for this to happen. That's what the Ranians would like
to assume. But the smoking gun is the fact that Iran has supplied has
made these organizations capable of these attacks in the first place. Right. Intent
is icing on the cape could have you know, Coos Force, could have
foreseen that their prodigas would want to you know, exercise control of their weapons
by themselves sooner or later. Absolutely, And I think something else to think
about too is the uh, the tangible benefits to Iran of this attack like
this. I mean, yes, you get the you know, you have
the debts and wounding of US service personnel, you have the the United States
looking at its vulnerability in the area. You have them now you know,
people within the US government and otherwise questioning administration and response to all this stuff.
But they also have the benefit of turning the world attention away from their
own internal Iran's internal issues, that terrorism that they're you know, all of
that stuff. So something to think about. Yeah, Jason, really a
really good point. So you know, when we're talking about striking back,
and again, you know there's the there there would be warriors who who say,
yeah, we should strike white into Iran itself, okay, and there's
a I'm not you know, I wouldn't I wouldn't say a blanket no to
that, but I would say there's some You've got to bear in mind some
things. One thing is, you know, the Persian mentality, very proud
people. They they do have a history to prove, recent history of dissent.
But if you strike Iran, you're going to watch everyone unite behind the
regime, which is exactly the same. Yeah, so we've got to you
know, it's I'm not I'm not saying obviously, hey, that's too high
a price, but we've got to understand that that is the price. Right,
just as in the same way as when we hit SOLEMANI we knew likely
that US servicemen would die in retaliation. Right, It's going to be a
deliberate decision and that, yeah, and so, and you know there are
I mean, I think it's such a trikeliche saying we have a range of
options. But there are a range of options, but they have to be
imaginative. We can't do more of the same, right, what is more
of the same. We have conducted I think eight strikes. I'm not counting
Yemen. I'm just talking Iran and Iraq and Syria since October the seventh right
to include two in which we specifically targeted IRGC personnel, both in Syria on
I believe it was eight and twelve of November. So there are precedents.
Right, We've already killed Iranians in Iraq and Syria. We have not killed
Iranians in Iraq in Iran itself. In fact, the last time we killed
Iranians that were not in Iran Syria was nineteen eighty eight as part of an
operation called Praying Mantis. And so my point is simply this, this is
a big precedent. It's not simply okay, hey, let's do this.
And you know why we haven't done that because there is some kind of an
unspoken understanding between the Iranians and the US on this are what are the real
red lines, okay, and US and striking Iranian homeland is one of those
red lines. And that is why the United States has been a conciliatory or
had a conciliatory effect on Israel whenever Israel goes on the war path demanding war
with Iran. So we'll see, you know. But when I say range
of options, and you know, it's got to be it's got to escalate
it beyond what we've done so far. So what could that be? Well,
it could be a comprehensive strike right erad Syria, but also the Persian
Gulf, Iranian naval assets, who knows, maybe infrastructure in the Persian Gulf
right which would also you know, have an economic impact on Iran. When
I say strikes, I mean if there is a smoking grind connecting the drone
with you know, with ILGC, as I'm sure there is, then then
then removing IRGC capability or severely diminishing not just lacking one or two dudes,
but I mean going after kingpins and facilities and infrastructure in such a manner that
we prevent the IRGC from being able to operate effectively over a period of time.
Okay, that's that's a reasonable expectation and it and it hurts Iran and
it gives us a sense of possible done. Well were they doing there anyway?
You say, you know, and it keeps us on the moral high
ground. And there's you know, as you guys know, there's a there's
a whole welter of other stuff we do in the cyber realm that that doesn't
even get noticed or talked about. The dumb thing to do would be to,
you know, to to go all hands out and send tens of thousands
of troops out to the Middle East where they provide just a greater effective target
for the Iranians. The other dumb thing to do would be to withdraw troops
from the Middle East, right we you know, as I said, the
pattern that we should maintain that is, you know, light footprint bass similar
to our time for Tower twenty two. Obviously well fortified, secure, armed
with mostly i mean man most of the soft guys, but not mostly soft
guys, as there are in those soft needs. Soft needs conventional horses in
order to operate and survives, so conventional forces there are support with soft doing
the operations. You have minimal risks there and you have the prettiest potential for
strategic effect. Of course, the Iraqis are going to pretty decide what our
footprint is pretty soon within Iraq. You guys said that. That was one
of the questions I wanted to ask, was what happens with that like tentative
deal of us getting out of Iraq that they announced? Kind of does that,
you know, uh, throw our wrench in that? Are you going
to stay in Iraq in terms of like soft or whatever, and something makes
it more difficult for us? Right and as far as containment containing Iranian influence,
but we weren't doing that pretty tall but doing that anyway, I mean,
we weren't containing Iranian influence by having military guys there, so I you
know, yeah, obviously I'm not I'm not dismissing our dismissal from Iraq as
being unimportant. What I am saying, of course, you know, is
that that we can we can accomplish the mission from other places where we know
we so quick. I got a question, like a laming question, what
does it look like? Does it just look like more air strikes more often?
Is it? Is it setding like you know, two hundred rangers in
adulta squadron to go smoke, you know, command and control guys, like,
what does it look like in terms of our response from the head on
Tower twenty two? I mean, I'm sorry to take go ahead. What
do you do? You know? I mean, I mean you're you're a
little bit closer to the strategic military response than I am. But I would
think that for right now, what you don't really you don't fix what's not
broken. The air strikes are working, and we're hitting the targets that we
want to hit and killing the people we want to kill for lack of a
better term, and and it's all going to depend on we hit what does
Iran do? We hit what does Iran do? It's just I think it's
going to depend on that. But I think all that other stuff you mentioned,
the soft teams, the ranger battalions, all that stuff, that's all
brewing underneath, and they're ready to go. I'm sure staged and ready to
go, or at least the word has come down be ready to go.
But I think because we've set the president, and this is my opinion,
set the president already between the who thi's and the strikes that we've done in
Iraq, and all I think we might keep that up for a little bit
and wait and see what I Ran is the government's going to do, and
something else. To piggyback on what you're saying, Andy, it made me
think about another benefit quote unquote for Iran is the entity that would be willing
to go into Iran and has proven that they would do it, which is
Israel. They've got their own stuff going on, so we can't necessarily call
on them, not saying that we won't, not saying that they can't,
but it would appear that right now they're tied up, you know, with
what's going on in Gaza. So you know, that's another thing that not
necessarily take off the table, but it's something we may say, Okay,
we'll have to keep that to the side, you know, until the Israelis
you know, give us the green light that they can do it, the
the in in you know, just to piggyback on what Jason said, and
I agree, Yeah, the strikes are largely I mean when I say working
that that's certainly hurting that Iran I would imagine. But when I talk about
a difference an escalation, I mean synchronizing strikes to remove a capability. I
mean, think about what we've been doing simply before, is you know,
we something is done against us, and we retaliate, but it's a proportional
retaliation, right, and then we de escalate, you know, we kind
of say, okay, that was it, you know, don't don't fuck
around again, or we'll do it, only it'll be worse next time.
Right, this time we need to ramp, you know, we we really
need to hurt Iran's capability, all right, it's ability to control those proxies,
to to have an effect on those proxies. We're hitting right at the
right at the point that hurt us, right, We're not you know,
we're not going through some esoteric route or sanctioning and all of that, right,
I mean, yes, we do. We continue to do that,
but that okay, it's not about just strikes. It's about what are those
strikes doing, how they're coordinated and timed that that could have a different effect
when you talk about and again I don't find you know, people chime in
on this today disagree, But when when we're going against a state actor,
are the roles that soft play obviously change? Right? So it's I mean,
it's very little door kicking and grabbing people. The door kicking is normally
involved in kinetic strikes where you use soft and normally involved in taking out key
infrastructure where there is fear of colladal damage if we go in with strikes or
for some other Okay, if you think through a little bit and you can
think of the types of infrastructure that might involve, right, and you know,
doubtless, again, I don't have any I don't have any inswer.
No one's letting me into on the intel on this. I promise you guys
wouldn't. So this is all speculation. Yes, So can I like another
question? So yeah, So that's what I was gonna say, Like they
have to be I'm assuming their CIA and covert stuff is going to be a
big factor in this, right because I assume you so you want to hurt
their capabilities. You want to hurt like how they supply their proxies with equipment,
whether it's drones or AMMO or money or whatever. So I'm assuming the
CIA is going to have a hand in like hitting them there, which I'm
sure they already do Anyway. Yeah, I think people just want right now
because like their especially the Twitter people, they want things to be blowing up
again. We want to see some skyline shots of things blowing up, and
it's I don't know if that's exactly the right way of doing one thing.
It won't be for sure, I'm well, I hope not will be.
You know, a similar series of strikes simply against Tatar Paswama. I mean
because because the problem is more fundamental and endemic than that. We know that,
and it's part of the same problem that's that's resulted in strikes on forty
cargo ships on the Red Seat in the last three months, and not a
single one of those was bound for Israel, you know. I mean,
there was all kinds of weird stories invented to attack these ships, but that
is that's significant too. I mean, twelve percent of the world shipping passes
through the Barbauman debt the band the ban as you you probably heard. So
yeah, it's it is time to take action. But it's going to be
imaginative, right, I mean, it really does. It's not We're beyond
the era of compit bombing countries since thinking that it's taught them anything. And
as we talked about, it's just simply going to drive Iran. It's going
to unite Iran. Yeah, I have one more question. Yeah, ever
since October seventh, and like Israel has been hidden back on Gaza and Hamas,
have these incidences spiked up with Iranian proxies whether obviously the Huthi's Yes,
it's spiked up. But like I'm talking like in Syria hits on US.
Yeah, one hundred and sixty attacks on US troops basis since seven October.
That is meaningless number unless you compare it to before. And I can't give
you exact numbers many times, many times, the numbers of the tacks over
the previous the number of taxes three months. So so would part of the
strategy of retaliating against US getting hit in Iranian proxies is trying to rein back
Israel a little bit in Gaza? Yes, certainly so, I would imagine,
and you know what, whatever again, I mean, we'll talk more
about this is I think I think Jason and my stance is probably going to
be on there, say, look where we're bipartisan or a political but we
do criticize dumb policy and when we see dumb policy regardless, right, Otherwise
this becomes an anodyne pablom show. But but my point here is that it's
not easy. Yes to chart a of course be us Netnia who is whacked
right, and yet we are hitched to his wagon, and for for all
kinds of reasons that you guys understand very politically hitch to his wagon, regardless
of the administration. But but we have this guy who's leading us, right,
he's leading us into a bad place, and and we're watching, we're
facing I mean, we used to to not being a popular, not being
popular in parts of the country, but we're being heavily criticized, even by
our allies, and that should cause us to pause and think, right,
regardless, that's that's that's good policy to do that. But but yes,
and and answer your question, dah I. At the same time, behind
the scenes, I'm sure that I know there's a good deal of pressure taking
place and mill to mill too about trying to cut down on casualties. And
I'll make a controversial actually, i won't make a controversial statement at all at
all, because I'm still awaiting full permission to visit to visit God of Gaza
for my book. Multi follow on that. Oh yeah, And at the
end of the day, Iran's gonna Iran. So they've proven historically that they
don't necessarily operate in a vacuum. They want some sort of a conflict or
some sort of an an issue where they can operate. Now they can insert
themselves. Whether that was in the in the goal for in Iraq when we
went into Iraq, and now look at the issues that are happening, it's
always conflicts, some sort of issue where they insert themselves. So whatever Netanyahu
does, Iran has already taken full advantage of what's going on now. So
I think that that's going to continue for the foreseeable future. So I think
we say, if I'm if I'm the president, which nobody wants. If
I'm the president, you got to let all that external noise go and say,
okay, we'll talk to you in a minute. Now we got to
handle what's going on now. Our three people are dead. We have to
respond to it. So I think that it can be done. People are
very black or white. You know, either you're all in or you're not
in at all. And I don't think that that's how you should go.
How we should govern, how we should our military should respond, Like you
know, Andy's been talking about we have there's layers to it. You know,
we don't have to go all in you know, glass parking lot.
We also don't have to, like you said, pull everybody out and say,
okay, it's yours. You know, we can we can layer our
responses up to a point where we think that we're pushing too far and we're
going to cross the line that's going to result in an all out regional war,
and then we can we don't have to necessarily step back. We just
stop, you know, like we didn't first go for we stopped, you
know, short of you know, running into Iraq and just you know running
ripshot in there, and we we just stopped. And we have that capability.
We just have to you know, the administration and for future administration because
this is I don't believe that this is gonna stop once, you know,
whether Biden's re elected or not. I believe that whoever is in charge needs
to just cut out the external noise and all the crap on social media and
you know, all that stuff and just lead, you know, listen to
your military leaders and you know, move forward that way on a Yeah,
I mean I had one hundred percent, Jason, I couldn't agree more at
the you know, the strategic level, and then you know, at the
way down at the tactical level. It makes me think about our vulnerabilities,
you know, within the soft community. I mean think about you know,
there have been six very high profile US deaths overseas since twenty seventeen. Okay,
I mean that's not but I mean, well two incidents right three in
Nize are twenty seventeen, and then the three hair where US SOFT support personnel
or person that I mean personnel supporting US SOFT were targeted and killed. And
I think that's something we've got to be wary of in the future, you
know. I mean there's a reason why Tower twenty two was targeted, and
there's probably a reason why the drone got through at Tower twenty two and didn't
get through, you know, in Tower tamp Our TAMF was on combat footing
and it was mined with soft personnel. Tower twenty two was part of Jordan
Hill. I mean, you know, an hour or so away you can
get a beer and have a good time. It didn't feel like a war
footing. These guys were you know, reservists, and they were engineers,
not combine engine is. So you know. My point is that, yeah,
we've got gaping vulnerabilities out there across the Middle East, even with a
light footprint, and and it isn't our soft guys who are going to be
taking the brunt of these attacks. And we need to be we need we
need to harden ourselves and really look at that soft part of our footprint going
ahead. I got a question about Tyer twenty two. Did you guys see
like some of the twitter like it is on Twitter, most like the report
saying that it got hit because they tailed a friendly drone into there and they
got in under that. I feel like, is that did you hear?
Is that true? I can't say conclusively it's true that came I guess from
I don't know where it came from, you know, supposedly from guys on
the base. De Pengegon didn't deny that, but there's an investigation going on,
obviously, I mean, think about it. I'm not done I get
at all, but that. But here's what I think happened, because I've
seen this many times. Jason Briley has too. You know, people put
people see things happen. Then probably a US you know, a drone did
return and then shortly after the attack occurred, and people put two and two
together. But it's actually very difficult to locate and follow a drone, all
right, and it doesn't really make I mean, it isn't you know,
It isn't that easy. And it's hard to imagine them having done that and
slipped through the air defenses that way. But they did get through air defenses,
so they did, you know, they managed it somehow, and that's
that's what the investigation should try and uncover. Why why did the you know
what what succeeded in Tower twenty I mean outa that that failed in Tower twenty
two. Yeah, yeah, I agree. I don't. I can't.
I'm not a drone guy, so I can't say that, you know,
they were able to uh follow the track of the returning ux drone anything as
possible. It just doesn't at this point doesn't seem likely. But like Andy
said, you know, I think the key is what worked at you know,
at the sawpace that didn't work here, you know, and vice versa.
You know. So that's I think that's we won't know the full story,
if we know the full story, for probably months, you know,
to come and in the interim as they're finding things out. I'm sure that
that intel is getting out to other bases, you know, as Andy spoke
on to Harden, you know, their defenses. So because it's gonna it's
gonna keep happening, They're gonna keep testing these waters till it doesn't work and
then they'll try something else. All right. Yeah, that that's that that
sum set up beautifully, Jason. So you know at this point, I
mean, way, we don't. We don't want these two to over run.
So we'll bring this to a to a graceful close. So if you
were a betting man, when would you expect the strikes to go in?
Jason? What do you expect to see? Me? Personally? I'm thinking
probably by this coming weekend. I don't I mean, we had the assets
in place to do it, So what they are exactly, I don't know,
but I think we have the capability to launch the miss probably before this
weekend. But I would say we will start hearing about it probably by this
coming weekend. Their thoughts, Yeah, next three to four days probably,
right, I mean we have to respond with it, to show response,
and I mean I would put money on Okay, so I would put money
on this Okay, multiple IRGC directed strikes simultaneous or rob Syria, but also
Iranian naval assets in the Yeah, Iranian naval assets and potentially two if they
look if they locate this factory, which isn't gonna be difficult to do.
If there is a strike into Iran itself, I would guess that it would
be going after that factory because that's very that you know, obviously that's relevant,
but it's also very easy to compound mentalize in terms of their slation.
Absolutely, I would bet that they don't hit Iran like my RAN's mainland.
I could see them small like blowing up container ship or two that's heading to
like im In or wherever. Bucks. Yeah, I'm in. I'll bet
that No, no inside of Iran, but I could see them blowing up
a ship because that is something we've never seen before. Bring cash with you
on the twenty, No problem, I'll have it. I'll hold the money.
Yeah, all right, guys. Any closing comments, Dan, what
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