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Why everyone. Today's a big day
because Jason and I, who were former

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Team House groupies, have now been
elevated to running our own podcast. We're

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still on the so at the little
table, you know, forty minutes,

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but the you know, in all
seriousness, this podcast is meant to complement

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its big and more sophisticated brother,
the Team House. I know that we're

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probably not used to hearing the term
the team House and sophisticated rolled up in

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the same sentence, but it's all
relative. So in a moment, we're

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going to introduce ourselves. I'm going
to talk a little bit, very briefly

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about what this podcast is about.
Okay, and there's a lot of things

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it's not. It's not a part
of an echo chamber. Is two guys

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who are reasonably well informed from their
background, the experience, but most importantly,

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I hope have enough emotional intelligence between
us not to not to let this

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just become a you know again,
echo chamber and reciting match. So for

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me, I'm Andy, as I
said, longtime, longtime Teamhouse groupie and

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former marine, former founder of the
Mozart group, now washed up doing podcasts

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for Ford Talking. Actually, I'm
very thrilled to be doing so, Jaysonovid

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you Thanks Andy. I'm Jason.
I'm also a longtime Teamhouse fan. Jack

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and I go back to our days
when I worked for him writing for Soft

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Rep and we've stayed friends ever since. Met Dave at the Teamhouse as well,

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and you know, I've been a
guest a few times on there,

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co hosted once and I have a
background for marine ten years, worked in

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nuclear security and then did eight years
at CIA or Central Intelligence Agency. And

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I'm happy to be here and see
where we go with this, right and

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then for all women listeners in particular, d I'm Dmitri. Yeah, that's

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why I'm here for the sex appeal. I'm Dmitri. I'm the producer of

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the Team House, and I think
this is gonna be a fun show.

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I was a huge fan of when
you guys were on the show. I

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think you guys did a great job
guest hosting the show. And uh,

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you know, we were sitting around
like what would make sense in terms of

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a vertical for the Teamhouse, because
we really try to showcase our guests,

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would be something that's more topical,
more current events driven, you know,

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in terms of geopolitics, less so
domestic current events, and I think you

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two guys would make like a perfect
team. The two marine thing I did

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not. That's like a happy accident. I guess you can call it.

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It wasn't on purpose. You know. Hopefully you guys don't blow it too

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bad. Well, yeah, I
mean, at least are you bring our

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collective IQ up at least to room
temperature? Hey, so you know we've

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already blown for you a few minutes
here. They typically the episode is going

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to be about forty to forty five
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a commute or a PT session.
And today to jump right into it,

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of course, the elephant in the
room is the ah the much expected and

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assumed to be imminent retaliation strikes that
the that the President and the administration had

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been talking about delivering against Iran and
or proxies and retaliation or the hit by

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a drone on Tower twenty two.
Jason, what do you do you are

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you familiar with Tower twenty two?
I am not. I can actually say

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that I'm the broad area. I
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Tower twenty two I have been trying
to catch up on. Okay, cool,

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all right, I planted that question
on Jason. So that so that

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we can talk a little bit about
Tower twenty two without appearing to be too

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much of a diversion for the more
cognizanti among our guests. Okay, so

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Tower twenty two is a it's a
it's an extremely small If I use the

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term base, then you know,
I grant I make it so much granded

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that it is. It is a
combat outposts essentially just within the Jordanian border,

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kind of in the triborder area between
the rack Syria and Jordan. It's

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only about six miles for instance,
from the Iraqi border and around the same

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actually to the Syrian border. Now
it's it's a bit of a shithole.

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And you may have this hasn't been
used coverage of it yet from the of

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the drone strink, but what we
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accommodation Carter is Now that that makes
it sound too grand. I will tell

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you that that accommodation quarters not only
last time I was there, which was

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you know, three years ago,
but I'm told even up to until now

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was it was nothing like one might
expect. But it was heavily sandbagged,

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and you know there was there were
bunkers available, and all of the all

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of the above. It's very easy
after an occasion like this to start,

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you know, to talk about all
the things that went wrong. So typically

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there's about three hundred and fifty guys
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fifty. That hasn't changed much since
we the United States started using Tower twenty

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two and late twenty fourteen. And
the reason why we use it, the

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reason why we have a garrison there
is simply to supply another come at our

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post called our tenth, which is
twenty kimeters twelve miles into Syria. I'm

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almost directly north actually a little bit
northwest. Now Our tenth is extremely important

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to the United States. It's manned
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terms and AO B company of M
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Indigenous soldiers and Indigenous force Syrians and
Andy, what does AOB mean? Yeah

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you're here? Yeah, there was
a company level heads. You know what?

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Uh, you know what? The
army SF community is gonna just kill

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me. Alpha the Bravo something operating
based Bravo, right, AOB? What

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does he A stand for? Alpha? No? God? You know what

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Okay, I'm going to be lambassed
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but I'll remember what AOB stands for. But essentially it is an army SF

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company. Is it an advanced operating
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We've already gonna have like five thousand
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right in the right in the comments
they get taken off. Yeah, let

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me continue anyway. Al Tam all
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numbers there vary, but it's seldom
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been manned around the same time since
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is important and the reason why we
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there, which is a great example
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is because of its location, all
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border region, but it's lies astride
the old bad Dad Damascus Highway which is

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now which is now a weapons running
route. And and you know what,

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you've heard this term used many times
part of the land bridge, right that

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that line has pretty much the facto
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way to the sea across a rock
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It's a it's a it's a fall
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Syrian regime. It's a fall in
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too, But it's of great importance
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Tower twenty two is important. And
why are they all there? While they're

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there? Partly, of course,
I mean presence in Syria, which is

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pretty h the most volatile we thought
the most volatile place until it's Rother talk

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about price recently. But more importantly, you know, keep an eye on

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the Islamic state, but also keep
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the other bad rather adversarial actors in
Syria, namely Russia and Iran.

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All right, and you know,
again when talking about light footprint, heavy

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footprint, I think how tamph is
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of the what we are seeing across
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increasingly as far as US presence,
a very light footprint, not a not

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not in a typical way. Tason
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any anything to to add or ask
deep before I go on to I

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can talk a little bit about the
tach itself and what happened afterwards est as

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far so I, you know,
me, I look at things from an

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intelligence perspective, and where would what
would I be thinking? Not necessarily from

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the President on down, but at
least from the the ambassador, from that

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regional you know, command area on
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as soon as I got the word
that this is happening as a as an

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intelligence agency, I would want to
spool up my assets and want to know

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we have an idea. You know, the the the media is saying it's

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Iran. We pretty much know it
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solid concrete evidence that it's Iran.
So I'd be spoiling my assets. Who

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did it? What was that the
actual target? What was the endgame here?

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You know, try to get those
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when the President and Joint chiefs and
everyone else are brief that they have all

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the information. And uh. The
reason why this show is called eyes on

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is because we have you know,
you have eyes on the target. We

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have eyes on who we think it
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that's all it is. So that's
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want to be pushing. Yeah,
I mean that that's a great that's a

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really good point. Glad to hear
it, Jason, and I love I'll

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bring in one of Jack's favorite terms
that you know, when you when you

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have a gallery of people howling for
uh, you know, hewling for blood

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and willing to expend the last drop
of other people's blood on the American side

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to deferther the cause. You know
it, all of us get a get

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a little concerned, you know,
without being snowflakes. Right, but I

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think, well, I do know
you know what you say is exactly right.

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I mean, it's corroboration and it's
removal a plausible deniability from Iran that's

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in order to strike into Iran and
or even you know Iranian targets goods force,

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which we've already done many times Iraqan. But to do it again then

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certainly we need that kind of that
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mean, it's interesting. Peddicon spokesman
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good. Yeah, Katar has follow
nothing to do with Big Daddy has followed

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and Lebanon katas followed, is a
a pro Iranean militia Because you've seen you

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know, you've seen a group that
no one's ever heard of before, right

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the I forget what it was,
the Islamic Resistance, whatever it was,

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the Army claiming responsibility. But you
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mentioning k H and saying it has
the hallmarks of you can bet that there's

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some intelligence. But you know that
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you know what I mean. And
I just say, I just want to

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talk a little bit about after math
of the attack, because I'm not sure

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this was in the media. So
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twenty two, and you can imagine, you know, the absolute pandemonium there.

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I mean, these guys were not
I mean, the Army reserve is

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certainly not. It's not the same
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Let me it that way, you
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very confusing. Well, and another
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type suspected Iranian made. Not not
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but it was a you know,
it was a one way suicide drone

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gave me to attack out tap and
was destroyed, all right, by one

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of the anti drone systems they had
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It's a Raythian system. Apparently it's
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But if anyone out there has heard
differently, please, you know, please

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pile in. Which is a kind
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my point being this was obviously was
it was a very well, you know,

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it was a planned attack, and
and it was you know, it

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wasn't just a lucky shot from from
some dude in The attack came from within

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Iraq. We know that much.
So it is conceivable certainly that it was

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kh And when people talk about the
hallmarks of cage, you know, it

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would be not just the type of
drone which was at Iranian manufacture, but

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it would be various other things,
even down perhaps to the operators who used

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it. So to be interesting to
see now, Jason, you know,

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in answer to when you were talking
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That's it's very easy in kind of
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You know that that stun silence for
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So we need to do this or
that. It's much more difficult to be

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in a leadership position, remembering that
you you know, you're at the helm

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of the United States. It has
to be seen to act in a way

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that is in constlet with US law. Yes, I know that seldom happens,

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but that you know, that is
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course is the you know, the
smoking gun is intent, right, and

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did the Iranians intent for this to
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to assume. But the smoking gun
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made these organizations capable of these attacks
in the first place. Right. Intent

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is icing on the cape could have
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foreseen that their prodigas would want to
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by themselves sooner or later. Absolutely, And I think something else to think

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about too is the uh, the
tangible benefits to Iran of this attack like

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this. I mean, yes,
you get the you know, you have

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the debts and wounding of US service
personnel, you have the the United States

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looking at its vulnerability in the area. You have them now you know,

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people within the US government and otherwise
questioning administration and response to all this stuff.

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But they also have the benefit of
turning the world attention away from their

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own internal Iran's internal issues, that
terrorism that they're you know, all of

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that stuff. So something to think
about. Yeah, Jason, really a

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really good point. So you know, when we're talking about striking back,

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and again, you know there's the
there there would be warriors who who say,

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yeah, we should strike white into
Iran itself, okay, and there's

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a I'm not you know, I
wouldn't I wouldn't say a blanket no to

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that, but I would say there's
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things. One thing is, you
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people. They they do have a
history to prove, recent history of dissent.

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But if you strike Iran, you're
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regime, which is exactly the same. Yeah, so we've got to you

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know, it's I'm not I'm not
saying obviously, hey, that's too high

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a price, but we've got to
understand that that is the price. Right,

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just as in the same way as
when we hit SOLEMANI we knew likely

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that US servicemen would die in retaliation. Right, It's going to be a

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deliberate decision and that, yeah,
and so, and you know there are

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I mean, I think it's such
a trikeliche saying we have a range of

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options. But there are a range
of options, but they have to be

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imaginative. We can't do more of
the same, right, what is more

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of the same. We have conducted
I think eight strikes. I'm not counting

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Yemen. I'm just talking Iran and
Iraq and Syria since October the seventh right

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to include two in which we specifically
targeted IRGC personnel, both in Syria on

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I believe it was eight and twelve
of November. So there are precedents.

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Right, We've already killed Iranians in
Iraq and Syria. We have not killed

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Iranians in Iraq in Iran itself.
In fact, the last time we killed

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Iranians that were not in Iran Syria
was nineteen eighty eight as part of an

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operation called Praying Mantis. And so
my point is simply this, this is

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a big precedent. It's not simply
okay, hey, let's do this.

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And you know why we haven't done
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unspoken understanding between the Iranians and the
US on this are what are the real

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red lines, okay, and US
and striking Iranian homeland is one of those

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red lines. And that is why
the United States has been a conciliatory or

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had a conciliatory effect on Israel whenever
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with Iran. So we'll see,
you know. But when I say range

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of options, and you know,
it's got to be it's got to escalate

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it beyond what we've done so far. So what could that be? Well,

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it could be a comprehensive strike right
erad Syria, but also the Persian

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Gulf, Iranian naval assets, who
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right which would also you know,
have an economic impact on Iran. When

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I say strikes, I mean if
there is a smoking grind connecting the drone

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with you know, with ILGC,
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then removing IRGC capability or severely diminishing
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but I mean going after kingpins and
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we prevent the IRGC from being able
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Okay, that's that's a reasonable expectation
and it and it hurts Iran and

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it gives us a sense of possible
done. Well were they doing there anyway?

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You say, you know, and
it keeps us on the moral high

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ground. And there's you know,
as you guys know, there's a there's

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a whole welter of other stuff we
do in the cyber realm that that doesn't

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even get noticed or talked about.
The dumb thing to do would be to,

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you know, to to go all
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of troops out to the Middle East
where they provide just a greater effective target

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for the Iranians. The other dumb
thing to do would be to withdraw troops

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from the Middle East, right we
you know, as I said, the

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pattern that we should maintain that is, you know, light footprint bass similar

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to our time for Tower twenty two. Obviously well fortified, secure, armed

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with mostly i mean man most of
the soft guys, but not mostly soft

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guys, as there are in those
soft needs. Soft needs conventional horses in

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order to operate and survives, so
conventional forces there are support with soft doing

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the operations. You have minimal risks
there and you have the prettiest potential for

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strategic effect. Of course, the
Iraqis are going to pretty decide what our

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footprint is pretty soon within Iraq.
You guys said that. That was one

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of the questions I wanted to ask, was what happens with that like tentative

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deal of us getting out of Iraq
that they announced? Kind of does that,

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you know, uh, throw our
wrench in that? Are you going

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to stay in Iraq in terms of
like soft or whatever, and something makes

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it more difficult for us? Right
and as far as containment containing Iranian influence,

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but we weren't doing that pretty tall
but doing that anyway, I mean,

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we weren't containing Iranian influence by having
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know, yeah, obviously I'm not
I'm not dismissing our dismissal from Iraq as

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being unimportant. What I am saying, of course, you know, is

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that that we can we can accomplish
the mission from other places where we know

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we so quick. I got a
question, like a laming question, what

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does it look like? Does it
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Is it? Is it setding like
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adulta squadron to go smoke, you
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what does it look like in terms
of our response from the head on

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Tower twenty two? I mean,
I'm sorry to take go ahead. What

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do you do? You know?
I mean, I mean you're you're a

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little bit closer to the strategic military
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think that for right now, what
you don't really you don't fix what's not

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broken. The air strikes are working, and we're hitting the targets that we

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want to hit and killing the people
we want to kill for lack of a

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better term, and and it's all
going to depend on we hit what does

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Iran do? We hit what does
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going to depend on that. But
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the soft teams, the ranger battalions, all that stuff, that's all

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brewing underneath, and they're ready to
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go, or at least the word
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But I think because we've set the
president, and this is my opinion,

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set the president already between the who
thi's and the strikes that we've done in

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Iraq, and all I think we
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and wait and see what I Ran
is the government's going to do, and

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something else. To piggyback on what
you're saying, Andy, it made me

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think about another benefit quote unquote for
Iran is the entity that would be willing

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to go into Iran and has proven
that they would do it, which is

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Israel. They've got their own stuff
going on, so we can't necessarily call

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on them, not saying that we
won't, not saying that they can't,

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but it would appear that right now
they're tied up, you know, with

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what's going on in Gaza. So
you know, that's another thing that not

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necessarily take off the table, but
it's something we may say, Okay,

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we'll have to keep that to the
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you know, give us the green
light that they can do it, the

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the in in you know, just
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I agree, Yeah, the strikes
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that that's certainly hurting that Iran I
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a difference an escalation, I mean
synchronizing strikes to remove a capability. I

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mean, think about what we've been
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we something is done against us,
and we retaliate, but it's a proportional

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retaliation, right, and then we
de escalate, you know, we kind

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of say, okay, that was
it, you know, don't don't fuck

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around again, or we'll do it, only it'll be worse next time.

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Right, this time we need to
ramp, you know, we we really

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need to hurt Iran's capability, all
right, it's ability to control those proxies,

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to to have an effect on those
proxies. We're hitting right at the

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right at the point that hurt us, right, We're not you know,

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we're not going through some esoteric route
or sanctioning and all of that, right,

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I mean, yes, we do. We continue to do that,

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but that okay, it's not about
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strikes doing, how they're coordinated and
timed that that could have a different effect

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when you talk about and again I
don't find you know, people chime in

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on this today disagree, But when
when we're going against a state actor,

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are the roles that soft play obviously
change? Right? So it's I mean,

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it's very little door kicking and grabbing
people. The door kicking is normally

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involved in kinetic strikes where you use
soft and normally involved in taking out key

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infrastructure where there is fear of colladal
damage if we go in with strikes or

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for some other Okay, if you
think through a little bit and you can

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think of the types of infrastructure that
might involve, right, and you know,

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doubtless, again, I don't have
any I don't have any inswer.

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No one's letting me into on the
intel on this. I promise you guys

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wouldn't. So this is all speculation. Yes, So can I like another

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question? So yeah, So that's
what I was gonna say, Like they

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have to be I'm assuming their CIA
and covert stuff is going to be a

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big factor in this, right because
I assume you so you want to hurt

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their capabilities. You want to hurt
like how they supply their proxies with equipment,

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whether it's drones or AMMO or money
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CIA is going to have a hand
in like hitting them there, which I'm

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sure they already do Anyway. Yeah, I think people just want right now

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because like their especially the Twitter people, they want things to be blowing up

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again. We want to see some
skyline shots of things blowing up, and

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it's I don't know if that's exactly
the right way of doing one thing.

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It won't be for sure, I'm
well, I hope not will be.

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You know, a similar series of
strikes simply against Tatar Paswama. I mean

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because because the problem is more fundamental
and endemic than that. We know that,

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and it's part of the same problem
that's that's resulted in strikes on forty

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cargo ships on the Red Seat in
the last three months, and not a

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single one of those was bound for
Israel, you know. I mean,

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there was all kinds of weird stories
invented to attack these ships, but that

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is that's significant too. I mean, twelve percent of the world shipping passes

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through the Barbauman debt the band the
ban as you you probably heard. So

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yeah, it's it is time to
take action. But it's going to be

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imaginative, right, I mean,
it really does. It's not We're beyond

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the era of compit bombing countries since
thinking that it's taught them anything. And

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as we talked about, it's just
simply going to drive Iran. It's going

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to unite Iran. Yeah, I
have one more question. Yeah, ever

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since October seventh, and like Israel
has been hidden back on Gaza and Hamas,

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have these incidences spiked up with Iranian
proxies whether obviously the Huthi's Yes,

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it's spiked up. But like I'm
talking like in Syria hits on US.

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Yeah, one hundred and sixty attacks
on US troops basis since seven October.

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That is meaningless number unless you compare
it to before. And I can't give

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you exact numbers many times, many
times, the numbers of the tacks over

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the previous the number of taxes three
months. So so would part of the

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strategy of retaliating against US getting hit
in Iranian proxies is trying to rein back

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Israel a little bit in Gaza?
Yes, certainly so, I would imagine,

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and you know what, whatever again, I mean, we'll talk more

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about this is I think I think
Jason and my stance is probably going to

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be on there, say, look
where we're bipartisan or a political but we

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do criticize dumb policy and when we
see dumb policy regardless, right, Otherwise

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this becomes an anodyne pablom show.
But but my point here is that it's

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not easy. Yes to chart a
of course be us Netnia who is whacked

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right, and yet we are hitched
to his wagon, and for for all

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kinds of reasons that you guys understand
very politically hitch to his wagon, regardless

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of the administration. But but we
have this guy who's leading us, right,

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he's leading us into a bad place, and and we're watching, we're

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facing I mean, we used to
to not being a popular, not being

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popular in parts of the country,
but we're being heavily criticized, even by

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our allies, and that should cause
us to pause and think, right,

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regardless, that's that's that's good policy
to do that. But but yes,

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and and answer your question, dah
I. At the same time, behind

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the scenes, I'm sure that I
know there's a good deal of pressure taking

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place and mill to mill too about
trying to cut down on casualties. And

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I'll make a controversial actually, i
won't make a controversial statement at all at

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all, because I'm still awaiting full
permission to visit to visit God of Gaza

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for my book. Multi follow on
that. Oh yeah, And at the

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end of the day, Iran's gonna
Iran. So they've proven historically that they

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don't necessarily operate in a vacuum.
They want some sort of a conflict or

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some sort of an an issue where
they can operate. Now they can insert

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themselves. Whether that was in the
in the goal for in Iraq when we

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went into Iraq, and now look
at the issues that are happening, it's

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always conflicts, some sort of issue
where they insert themselves. So whatever Netanyahu

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does, Iran has already taken full
advantage of what's going on now. So

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I think that that's going to continue
for the foreseeable future. So I think

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we say, if I'm if I'm
the president, which nobody wants. If

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I'm the president, you got to
let all that external noise go and say,

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okay, we'll talk to you in
a minute. Now we got to

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handle what's going on now. Our
three people are dead. We have to

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respond to it. So I think
that it can be done. People are

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very black or white. You know, either you're all in or you're not

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in at all. And I don't
think that that's how you should go.

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How we should govern, how we
should our military should respond, Like you

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know, Andy's been talking about we
have there's layers to it. You know,

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we don't have to go all in
you know, glass parking lot.

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We also don't have to, like
you said, pull everybody out and say,

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okay, it's yours. You know, we can we can layer our

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responses up to a point where we
think that we're pushing too far and we're

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going to cross the line that's going
to result in an all out regional war,

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and then we can we don't have
to necessarily step back. We just

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stop, you know, like we
didn't first go for we stopped, you

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know, short of you know,
running into Iraq and just you know running

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ripshot in there, and we we
just stopped. And we have that capability.

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We just have to you know,
the administration and for future administration because

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this is I don't believe that this
is gonna stop once, you know,

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whether Biden's re elected or not.
I believe that whoever is in charge needs

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to just cut out the external noise
and all the crap on social media and

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you know, all that stuff and
just lead, you know, listen to

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your military leaders and you know,
move forward that way on a Yeah,

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I mean I had one hundred percent, Jason, I couldn't agree more at

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the you know, the strategic level, and then you know, at the

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way down at the tactical level.
It makes me think about our vulnerabilities,

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you know, within the soft community. I mean think about you know,

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there have been six very high profile
US deaths overseas since twenty seventeen. Okay,

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I mean that's not but I mean, well two incidents right three in

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Nize are twenty seventeen, and then
the three hair where US SOFT support personnel

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or person that I mean personnel supporting
US SOFT were targeted and killed. And

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I think that's something we've got to
be wary of in the future, you

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know. I mean there's a reason
why Tower twenty two was targeted, and

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there's probably a reason why the drone
got through at Tower twenty two and didn't

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get through, you know, in
Tower tamp Our TAMF was on combat footing

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and it was mined with soft personnel. Tower twenty two was part of Jordan

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Hill. I mean, you know, an hour or so away you can

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get a beer and have a good
time. It didn't feel like a war

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footing. These guys were you know, reservists, and they were engineers,

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not combine engine is. So you
know. My point is that, yeah,

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we've got gaping vulnerabilities out there across
the Middle East, even with a

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light footprint, and and it isn't
our soft guys who are going to be

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taking the brunt of these attacks.
And we need to be we need we

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need to harden ourselves and really look
at that soft part of our footprint going

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ahead. I got a question about
Tyer twenty two. Did you guys see

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like some of the twitter like it
is on Twitter, most like the report

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saying that it got hit because they
tailed a friendly drone into there and they

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got in under that. I feel
like, is that did you hear?

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Is that true? I can't say
conclusively it's true that came I guess from

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I don't know where it came from, you know, supposedly from guys on

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the base. De Pengegon didn't deny
that, but there's an investigation going on,

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obviously, I mean, think about
it. I'm not done I get

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at all, but that. But
here's what I think happened, because I've

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seen this many times. Jason Briley
has too. You know, people put

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people see things happen. Then probably
a US you know, a drone did

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return and then shortly after the attack
occurred, and people put two and two

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together. But it's actually very difficult
to locate and follow a drone, all

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right, and it doesn't really make
I mean, it isn't you know,

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It isn't that easy. And it's
hard to imagine them having done that and

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slipped through the air defenses that way. But they did get through air defenses,

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so they did, you know,
they managed it somehow, and that's

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that's what the investigation should try and
uncover. Why why did the you know

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what what succeeded in Tower twenty I
mean outa that that failed in Tower twenty

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two. Yeah, yeah, I
agree. I don't. I can't.

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I'm not a drone guy, so
I can't say that, you know,

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they were able to uh follow the
track of the returning ux drone anything as

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possible. It just doesn't at this
point doesn't seem likely. But like Andy

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said, you know, I think
the key is what worked at you know,

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at the sawpace that didn't work here, you know, and vice versa.

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You know. So that's I think
that's we won't know the full story,

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if we know the full story,
for probably months, you know,

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to come and in the interim as
they're finding things out. I'm sure that

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that intel is getting out to other
bases, you know, as Andy spoke

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on to Harden, you know,
their defenses. So because it's gonna it's

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gonna keep happening, They're gonna keep
testing these waters till it doesn't work and

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then they'll try something else. All
right. Yeah, that that's that that

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sum set up beautifully, Jason.
So you know at this point, I

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mean, way, we don't.
We don't want these two to over run.

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So we'll bring this to a to
a graceful close. So if you

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were a betting man, when would
you expect the strikes to go in?

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Jason? What do you expect to
see? Me? Personally? I'm thinking

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probably by this coming weekend. I
don't I mean, we had the assets

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in place to do it, So
what they are exactly, I don't know,

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but I think we have the capability
to launch the miss probably before this

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weekend. But I would say we
will start hearing about it probably by this

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coming weekend. Their thoughts, Yeah, next three to four days probably,

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right, I mean we have to
respond with it, to show response,

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and I mean I would put money
on Okay, so I would put money

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on this Okay, multiple IRGC directed
strikes simultaneous or rob Syria, but also

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Iranian naval assets in the Yeah,
Iranian naval assets and potentially two if they

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look if they locate this factory,
which isn't gonna be difficult to do.

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If there is a strike into Iran
itself, I would guess that it would

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be going after that factory because that's
very that you know, obviously that's relevant,

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but it's also very easy to compound
mentalize in terms of their slation.

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Absolutely, I would bet that they
don't hit Iran like my RAN's mainland.

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I could see them small like blowing
up container ship or two that's heading to

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like im In or wherever. Bucks. Yeah, I'm in. I'll bet

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that No, no inside of Iran, but I could see them blowing up

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a ship because that is something we've
never seen before. Bring cash with you

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on the twenty, No problem,
I'll have it. I'll hold the money.

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Yeah, all right, guys.
Any closing comments, Dan, what

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do you you've got an email at
us for us right? Uh? For

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eyes for eyes on now, not
yet, but we will have an email

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address for that. I mean I'm
assuming so like if anyone has like questions

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and stuff like that. They can
they can email the Teamhouse podcast at gmail

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dot com. You know, you
can also write them in the comments and

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the comments might get lost in the
sauce, but oh man, it's like

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get those clowns off their No,
yeah, they'll be they'll be okay.

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And especially like you know, don't
tell you know, we got to tell

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people to like subscribe, uh,
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Yeah, yeah, all of the
above. So and I mean on

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the on the email out of this. What what we really want to do

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is spend I don't know, five
minutes, ten minutes maybe at the end

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of every episode going through just a
handful of input from from the listeners,

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watchers, audience. And notice they
said, you know, not just questions,

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free to meet comments and we will
comment on your comments. So please

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do and uh yeah great,

