1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:07,719 Hello, and welcome to side Quests. This is our video game show here 2 00:00:07,759 --> 00:00:11,359 at Geek First. I'm your host and marcaster Delmas Night with me the Geek 3 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,800 kirkla Patzer. How's it going, my friend, it's going very good. 4 00:00:15,199 --> 00:00:18,679 Uh. Spent the morning skiing and now well, I guess technically snowboarding. 5 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,719 But now now I'm here to talk about some fun stuff with you. It's 6 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,519 just easier to say ski, you know, it's rhyme, just rolls off 7 00:00:24,559 --> 00:00:27,519 the tongue a little bit easier. It's the so much easier than snowboard ski. 8 00:00:27,719 --> 00:00:31,719 It's like ski, I don't know, I'm pretty tired ski snowboard, 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,719 I guess snowboarding and you're you're you're, you're shaving off one syllable. So 10 00:00:35,119 --> 00:00:37,920 you know if that that could add up over the course of a lifetime potentially 11 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:42,840 exactly. Yes. Yeah, today we have a fun almost a bonus episode. 12 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,679 This is this is coming out on the actual like regular side quest release 13 00:00:45,759 --> 00:00:48,119 date. Uh. But yeah, this is gonna be a what we've been 14 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,079 playing episode. We're gonna talk about Bulgers Gate, We're gonna talk about Dragon's 15 00:00:51,119 --> 00:00:55,799 Dogma returnal some Kirby, another game called Dear Esther, so a lot of 16 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,000 a lot of stuff. It should be all very fun. And then yeah, 17 00:00:59,039 --> 00:01:02,119 later this week, probably Thursday or Friday, don't know the exact drop 18 00:01:02,159 --> 00:01:04,840 date yet, is when we're gonna drop our video game draft for the year 19 00:01:04,879 --> 00:01:07,959 of twenty twenty four, So that should be fun. And then next week's 20 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:12,799 side quest is lined up as well because the Xbox Direct has been announced for 21 00:01:12,879 --> 00:01:18,239 I think January eighteenth or nineteenth, which is gonna have info on Indiana Jones 22 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,239 game, which Kirkland is rumored now to be coming out this year, which 23 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:23,040 true, and you look at when you look at what that studio has been 24 00:01:23,079 --> 00:01:26,000 working on, it's like, okay, it makes sense that they're ready to 25 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:30,200 release in twenty twenty four. Since we've only seen like a brief cinematic it's 26 00:01:30,239 --> 00:01:32,799 kind of surprising, but I'm very excited for that. Avowed is also going 27 00:01:32,879 --> 00:01:37,680 to be there hell Blade and Our History I'm told I think that game is 28 00:01:37,719 --> 00:01:42,359 called, So I'm expecting all this to be twenty twenty four releases. However, 29 00:01:42,359 --> 00:01:45,159 we're doing our draft before we actually get that, so that'll be interesting 30 00:01:45,159 --> 00:01:47,879 in terms of how that affects our draft picks. But yeah, I'm very 31 00:01:48,239 --> 00:01:49,959 excited for that. Since you're on Xbox guy, don't. I don't imagine 32 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,159 we'll be joining, but you're welcome to. I'd love to hear your take 33 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:57,480 on these games. Check the schedule. You're getting close to the final exams 34 00:01:57,519 --> 00:02:00,359 week, so it's getting a little bit stressful here. But yeah, well 35 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,079 yeah, we'll bring in Taylor and Travis or I don't know. I don't 36 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,480 know who, but I'll hopefully have someone next to me. It'd be a 37 00:02:07,519 --> 00:02:10,159 bit sad if I was there by myself. And then what other show does 38 00:02:10,199 --> 00:02:13,280 you know? Check out patron get episodes early and add for you, such 39 00:02:13,319 --> 00:02:15,599 as that draft, for example, recording it Tuesday night. I'll put it 40 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,039 up on Tuesday night on Patreon, but it might, you know, might 41 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,240 not see the feeds for another couple of days. You get that one nice 42 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,919 and early add free episodes as well. And I also want to show this 43 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:28,439 out that I recently went back through and made a YouTube playlist for all of 44 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,759 Side Quest, which I don't know why I hadn't done, but man, 45 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,520 it took a long time to go back through the feeds and add all these 46 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,159 videos to that playlist. But it's up there now. It's actually the YouTube 47 00:02:38,159 --> 00:02:40,840 has like playlists and then they also have like podcasts. I don't know what 48 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,960 that's supposed to be used for, but I'm like, yeah, I'll put 49 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,039 it as a podcast. So either way, if you go on geek First 50 00:02:46,039 --> 00:02:51,479 YouTube channel, I'll see playlists or podcasts and you should should see side quests 51 00:02:51,479 --> 00:02:53,080 there, so that way you can go back and easily find all the episodes, 52 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,639 because I know we have a ton of releases on our YouTube channel with 53 00:02:55,680 --> 00:03:00,479 the Ultimate Alliance and all that and stuff, so yeah, check that out 54 00:03:00,759 --> 00:03:04,319 as well, and I think with that we're gonna get right into it. 55 00:03:04,319 --> 00:03:07,639 The first thing. This is just a quick shout out, but they announced 56 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,639 that they are making DLC for Sea of Stars, which is going to be 57 00:03:10,719 --> 00:03:15,680 more meaningfully connect the game to The Messenger, which is the studio's previous game 58 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:17,919 that we already knew was in the same universe, but it was kind of 59 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:22,039 a not very important connection, and I don't know, in my forty hours 60 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:23,759 of See the Stars, I didn't see anything that connected to that, and 61 00:03:23,759 --> 00:03:27,719 I think it's very different eras. But anyway, this DLC is supposed to 62 00:03:27,759 --> 00:03:30,120 bring things together in a meaningful way. So what does this do for you? 63 00:03:30,199 --> 00:03:32,520 Kirklan, I don't think you played the Messenger, But does this make 64 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,719 you intrigue to want to, like go finish that game? Now? I 65 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,400 know you kind of got big sidetracked by Boulder's Gate, but do you do 66 00:03:39,439 --> 00:03:44,039 you plan on finishing it? I definitely want, honest I definitely want to. 67 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,120 I feel like I I don't even know if I am halfway through the 68 00:03:47,159 --> 00:03:51,520 game, honestly, but I am like a good chunk in and it was 69 00:03:51,639 --> 00:03:53,639 enough playtime to really get me lashed onto the story and just the characters and 70 00:03:53,919 --> 00:03:57,840 really just feel attached to it. I feel like this is just some good 71 00:03:57,879 --> 00:04:00,879 motivation. Did they say a date on this? I don't think so. 72 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:05,599 I would well, all they said is that they didn't. They haven't started 73 00:04:05,599 --> 00:04:09,400 on this until like now, until since the game has actually been out, 74 00:04:09,479 --> 00:04:12,840 So I don't know if, depending on the scale of it, it could 75 00:04:12,879 --> 00:04:16,439 be this year, but I would probably say twenty twenty five considering just how 76 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,240 big, and I kind of like, I don't even the Pixar alone in 77 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:23,680 that game. I feel like every boss would take six months to make, 78 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,839 So I don't know. I feel like I'm gonna guess twenty twenty five. 79 00:04:26,879 --> 00:04:29,079 But who knows, maybe it could be a late twenty twenty four drop. 80 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,680 Okay, yeah, but I was gonna say maybe if I have like a 81 00:04:32,439 --> 00:04:35,879 straight up date, I could try and plan my completion around that time. 82 00:04:35,959 --> 00:04:40,319 But I mean, I'm still plugging away at it a little bit here and 83 00:04:40,319 --> 00:04:44,560 there. Baldersgate definitely is just just the big, the big time sink right 84 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,160 now. But luckily, like I'm just kind of doing a campaign with Shay, 85 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,720 so when I'm not playing with her, that'll be a good reason to 86 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,759 jump into there. But yeah, I have had another game. I was 87 00:04:51,759 --> 00:04:57,279 trying out this this last week, and yeah, just excuse after excuse, 88 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:01,399 I gotta get you still suns and the queue, all these on the backlog. 89 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,600 There's so many, there's so many games. But yeah, I mean, 90 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,399 obviously it's been long enough now, so I can I feel, okay, 91 00:05:08,399 --> 00:05:11,399 spoiling my Game of the Year list. But Steve Stars was ultimately my 92 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,720 number one game of the Year for twenty twenty three. So whenever this drops, 93 00:05:14,759 --> 00:05:16,439 I will be there day one to check it out. Really excited, 94 00:05:16,439 --> 00:05:20,160 And I did play through the messenger as well. That game kind of has 95 00:05:20,199 --> 00:05:23,759 like a big post game section. I didn't really do that I just kind 96 00:05:23,759 --> 00:05:27,560 of beat the game in the first way and I liked it, but it's 97 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,639 nowhere near like the quality of See the Stars is for me, So I 98 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,040 don't know. Maybe I'll replay that or even just jump back in for an 99 00:05:32,079 --> 00:05:34,600 hour or two just to get a feel for it. But either way, 100 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:39,240 really exciting stuff. Just just more to get the DLC announcement, not even 101 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,399 so much the messenger part of it. But I still think it's cool when 102 00:05:42,399 --> 00:05:46,439 a studio like this can kind of connect their their different indie games into one 103 00:05:46,759 --> 00:05:49,959 connective universe. So we'll keep an eye on that. Okay, let's talk 104 00:05:49,959 --> 00:05:51,519 about some of the games we been playing. I want to start with this 105 00:05:53,439 --> 00:05:58,040 because man, over the weekend Kirkland, I just downloaded so many things through 106 00:05:58,079 --> 00:06:00,879 game Pass on PC, and I was checking out all sorts of things on 107 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,920 like Switch, like kind of Sitch Online. I just did not know what 108 00:06:03,959 --> 00:06:06,680 I wanted to play, and so I just downloaded a bunch of things and 109 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:11,160 tried a bunch of different things out, like I checked out City's skylines like 110 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:15,560 the first one, and my god, just some of the worst saturalization I've 111 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,079 ever seen in the game. When I was looking it up to see if 112 00:06:17,079 --> 00:06:20,199 that was like a thing that other people thought, and people who are you 113 00:06:20,199 --> 00:06:21,759 know, really well versu with the game, we're like, oh, yeah, 114 00:06:21,759 --> 00:06:26,000 I just watch like a few YouTube videos and you'll eventually figure out. 115 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:27,839 I'm like, I want to play the game. I don't really want to 116 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,120 like watch YouTube videos. Uh so yeah. I I was like, I'm 117 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,639 out of here pretty quick. I downloaded and checked out both what Wasteland one 118 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:40,240 and two Wasteland one even though it has like a it was like a remaster 119 00:06:41,079 --> 00:06:44,040 because I guess came up with the freaking eighties, which I didn't realize, 120 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,319 but this was like a more modern remaster that happened in the last decade, 121 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,240 but it still felt very dated. So I was, Okay, I'm gonna 122 00:06:48,319 --> 00:06:53,839 go check out Waistline two and that has been a bit more interesting, but 123 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,920 still maybe not the most compelling. I don't fall continue with it, but 124 00:06:57,079 --> 00:07:00,759 I just feel like post Balder's gating outpost because I'm still deep in the game 125 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,560 and I have a lot more to play of it. But I'm like, 126 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,600 man, I feel like CRPGs as a genre is a real big blind spot 127 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,279 for me, and I want to see what more of that genre is like 128 00:07:09,319 --> 00:07:12,199 so that's where I wanted to check out some Wasteline, and man, I 129 00:07:12,279 --> 00:07:15,240 just I just love character creators in games like this, and just RPGs in 130 00:07:15,279 --> 00:07:17,680 generals, but CRPGs where you can make the whole team as well. Like 131 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,000 in Wasteline, you make all four of your people if you want to, 132 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,439 and I feel like that's my favorite part. I just spend like an hour 133 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,199 making characters, and I play the game for a half an hour. I'm 134 00:07:25,199 --> 00:07:27,600 like, yeah, okay, I kind of cat the vibe here, so 135 00:07:28,079 --> 00:07:31,279 might play some more of that. I have been checking out a bit of 136 00:07:32,439 --> 00:07:36,639 Pillars of Eternity, which is no city in's CRPG, and so this the 137 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,519 reason for that is I knew I've wanted to check this game out recently, 138 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,639 but even more so now that A Vowed I feel like it is pretty imminent. 139 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,160 We know that A Vowed is set in the same fantasy world as this, 140 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,079 so I wanted to go back and you know, just study up, 141 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,839 so to speak, get a little bit of knowledge there on the history and 142 00:07:51,879 --> 00:07:57,079 the classes and all the lower element of it. And so I've been playing 143 00:07:57,079 --> 00:07:59,639 a bit of that as well. I think I'll I think I'm gonna keep 144 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,720 chuck trudging through that one. So I'll report back on that when I've played 145 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:07,079 a bit more. But one game that I was able to play and really 146 00:08:07,079 --> 00:08:09,160 get into and I played through the entire thing because it's a very short game, 147 00:08:09,639 --> 00:08:13,399 is dear Esther. Do you know this game or do you remember this 148 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,399 game? I feel like we might have talked about it back when me and 149 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,879 you did a walking sim focused out of Man episode like three years ago. 150 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:22,680 Yeah, I definitely I feel like we talked about it. I talked about 151 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,680 this with someone recently. I want to pull it up here because I just 152 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:28,439 don't remember what the gameplay looked like. Yeah, it's it's one of those 153 00:08:28,439 --> 00:08:33,519 classic like first person narrative walking sim sort of games, adventure games, so 154 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:37,159 to speak. And yeah, I guess it was interesting. After playing it, 155 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:41,240 I was just looking into the history of it a bit, and like 156 00:08:41,759 --> 00:08:46,559 I guess, first, this game was a source mod that was like way 157 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,200 back in the days, a mod, and then they kind of remade the 158 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:52,120 game from the ground up in a more like commercial way, and that was 159 00:08:52,159 --> 00:08:54,840 what the game ended up being, like the version I played on Steam here, 160 00:08:56,039 --> 00:08:58,639 And so that's pretty cool that it started as like a source mode. 161 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,320 Then that was very successful and then became its own game. We've seen that 162 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:05,320 with like The Forgotten City and other other games as well. It's always interesting 163 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,279 when things start as a mod and then they ended up going the distance and 164 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,559 making it a full thing. But you know, even as far as these 165 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,919 these very these kind of walking symp games that we talked about in that episode, 166 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,519 or Finch likes, as we determined in that episode, is a more 167 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:22,000 fun name is like, this might be the first one of that style. 168 00:09:22,159 --> 00:09:26,559 Actually, because Edith Finch was what twenty seventeen, Firewatch was twenty sixteen, 169 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:31,679 Gone Home was twenty twenty fourteen. I'm making up numbers too off the top 170 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,919 of my head, but I think it's me around that ballpark, and so 171 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:35,799 this, I mean, the mod was like two thousand and seven, I 172 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,360 think, and then this, whatever it is, it predates Gone Home and 173 00:09:39,399 --> 00:09:43,240 all those, So I'm pretty sure this might be kind of the first of 174 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,759 this sort of game that has become more popular in the last few years. 175 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,720 And yeah, it was interesting to play through. I don't think it had 176 00:09:48,759 --> 00:09:52,919 the same It didn't have the same It didn't hit me in the same way 177 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:56,279 the story of some of those other games, like Edith Finch and Gone Home 178 00:09:56,279 --> 00:09:58,360 are like really deeply emotional games that really affected me. I feel like I 179 00:09:58,399 --> 00:10:01,200 just missed a couple Wind's a dialogue in this one, so I didn't fully 180 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,639 get it. And then like, this game is short. This game I 181 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,720 beat it in less than an hour, so walk in somes are typically shorter, 182 00:10:07,759 --> 00:10:11,399 but this is especially short for one of these sorts of games. But 183 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:15,440 I think the biggest thing I got to showed up this game for is my 184 00:10:15,519 --> 00:10:16,879 God, it is so freaking beautiful, and the fact that it is pretty 185 00:10:16,919 --> 00:10:20,240 old now, it still looks like a modern triple A level game, and 186 00:10:20,279 --> 00:10:24,080 obviously it's like a very small scale, but it looks so freaking good. 187 00:10:24,159 --> 00:10:28,279 The wind going through these like Scottish highlands and you're going into these caves which 188 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,519 have all sorts of crazy lights and stalagmites coming down. It is beautiful and 189 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:37,080 the music is fantastic as well. Looking into like the studio, which is 190 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:41,240 called the Chinese Room. They the two like studio heads people made the original 191 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,639 game, I guess, and then brought this team together make this game. 192 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,440 Like one of them is the composer for it, So I feel like music 193 00:10:46,519 --> 00:10:50,360 was probably a big part of this game from the very beginning of it and 194 00:10:50,399 --> 00:10:54,279 making that very important, and it's really really good. It's weird though, 195 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,399 because I look at it, like looking at more in the history of the 196 00:10:56,399 --> 00:10:58,399 studio, I'm like, I wonder, what are they doing now? And 197 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,679 they are working on this game called fuck what's it called? That's a somewhat 198 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:03,799 of a generic name if you could look it up, Chinese Room. I'm 199 00:11:03,799 --> 00:11:07,799 curious what the their current game. It still Comes the Deep, Here Comes 200 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,639 the Deep. It's something like that. It's a horror game that we talked 201 00:11:11,639 --> 00:11:13,879 about at Summer Game Fest last year, or I think I maybe talked to 202 00:11:13,919 --> 00:11:18,559 Taylor about it, maybe Travis, I forget who. So they're still making 203 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,039 stuff, but it seems like they've gone on quite the journey where they got 204 00:11:22,039 --> 00:11:26,639 acquired at some point. Uh still still Wakes the Deep. Yeah, so 205 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,559 that's it looks a bit more horror like, but it could be immersive simmy 206 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,879 too, which I mean all these games like even Edith Finch Gone Home kind 207 00:11:31,879 --> 00:11:37,080 of have like their scary horror elements to their right. Yeah, But I 208 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,240 mean I also feel weird about this studio because it seems like after this game 209 00:11:39,279 --> 00:11:43,000 came out, those two like studioheads that I was talking about, just like 210 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,159 laid off the entire team and then like went into hiding for a couple of 211 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,879 years, and they eventually came back and made some other game. Then like 212 00:11:48,919 --> 00:11:50,159 they got acquired, and then like one of those studio heads left. So 213 00:11:50,159 --> 00:11:54,600 it's like I don't even know, Like it's probably not meaningful who's working on 214 00:11:54,639 --> 00:11:58,399 that still wakes the d game compared to what this was back in the day, 215 00:11:58,159 --> 00:12:01,159 but still interesting to go through. And you know, walking sims are 216 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:05,679 kind of an interesting genre because since they're so short and they're generally pretty cheap, 217 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,159 and all of them are pretty much still like on Steam or other platforms, 218 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,759 Like, it's a genre that it's really easy to have like a very 219 00:12:11,639 --> 00:12:15,639 solid understanding of. Like I feel like I've played so many of these games 220 00:12:15,639 --> 00:12:18,200 now and I can really speak on like the biggest ones in the genre. 221 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,960 But it's just because it's such a small one, and there's there's certainly other 222 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,759 ones and ones that are on my wish list and whatnot that I might check 223 00:12:24,799 --> 00:12:28,639 out in the future too. But I'm glad I finally played this game because 224 00:12:28,639 --> 00:12:31,639 I bought it, Like I don't know, probably a year ago and it's 225 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,200 just been sitting in my Steam library, but it was a good one to 226 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:37,000 go check out, and I think you would like it too from the Walking 227 00:12:37,039 --> 00:12:39,159 sim perspective. But I yeah, like I said, I don't think it's 228 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,559 quite as quite as strong as the games that followed it, But I can 229 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,440 also see like the inspiration for those games definitely coming from this one as well, 230 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,360 So it's interesting to go back to maybe what some of those games played 231 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,720 got really inspired by and decided to make their own game. Yeah, I 232 00:12:50,759 --> 00:12:54,080 mean something that I love about Walking Sims, which I mean probably already talked 233 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,759 about when we did that Edith Finch episode way back in the day, but 234 00:12:58,519 --> 00:13:01,679 just the fact that you can it and play through it in one city and 235 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:03,799 it's it's almost like rewatching like a movie that you really like, and the 236 00:13:03,799 --> 00:13:05,960 fact that this one's like less than an hour. I'm definitely gonna have to 237 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,519 add it to the list, especially just knowing that this could possibly be the 238 00:13:11,279 --> 00:13:13,639 earliest one like the first one, which we call them esther likes, you 239 00:13:13,639 --> 00:13:18,480 know that genres. We really should, We really should, although maybe fuck 240 00:13:18,519 --> 00:13:20,480 the studio because of how they treat their employees, So I don't know one 241 00:13:20,519 --> 00:13:24,639 of their pitch likes. I mean, I don't I assume that I have 242 00:13:24,759 --> 00:13:28,759 never not heard any controversy about that studio. But you know what's weird, 243 00:13:28,759 --> 00:13:31,039 man, I was looking because then I went on a whole tangent of looking 244 00:13:31,039 --> 00:13:35,159 at other walking sims and stuff, and like they that Giant Sparrow is the 245 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,600 developer of Edith Finch and like they announced at some point like, yeah, 246 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:41,919 we're working on an extra game. We'll you know, post on Twitter when 247 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,879 we're ready to talk about it. That game come on like twenty seventeen, 248 00:13:43,919 --> 00:13:46,480 and yeah, they've like poorted each other consoles and stuff. But like, 249 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,399 what the fuck are they doing? Did they make that much money from that 250 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:54,799 game that they can work on their next project for at this point seven years? 251 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,519 It's too big, because it's say to me, I know, we're 252 00:13:56,519 --> 00:13:58,080 at that point for a lot of like big Triple A studios, Like yeah, 253 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:03,679 like like GTA or other studios, But man, that just seems insane 254 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,600 to me. And like, I'm just so curious what they're working on. 255 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:09,159 I'm very excited for it, but at the same time too, like I 256 00:14:09,159 --> 00:14:11,639 don't know, is that still the same team after all these years? Maybe 257 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,039 some of those people have left, so I don't know what. I'm very 258 00:14:13,039 --> 00:14:16,279 excited for whatever their next project is. I have high expectations, that's for 259 00:14:16,279 --> 00:14:20,279 sure. Yeah, Edith Finch as well as that amount of time, like 260 00:14:20,279 --> 00:14:24,320 they better be cooking up something. It's weird with it when you get to 261 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,399 a certain points, like the hype keeps rising, but then it like stagnates 262 00:14:26,399 --> 00:14:30,200 and then it I feel like it chaotically goes. It wavers up and down 263 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:31,519 based on the day. I don't even know if I'm excited at this point 264 00:14:31,759 --> 00:14:35,799 because I don't know. There's just nothing to there's nothing to chew on there. 265 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:39,279 Yeah. So anyway, there you go. There's dear Esther interesting game 266 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:43,720 to go back to. And then the other quick hit I want to mention 267 00:14:43,799 --> 00:14:46,919 here is that I went and checked out some Kirby games on intend to Switch 268 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,240 online that I've never played before. I know you're a fellow Kirby fan. 269 00:14:50,519 --> 00:14:54,440 Yeah, I checked out two games. I checked out Dream Course, which 270 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:58,120 was a SNS game, and then Magic Mirror. Oh. I love that 271 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,399 the the Sword mode. I've always the Sword mode just has like the link 272 00:15:01,399 --> 00:15:05,440 had and yeah, very linked inspired. Yeah. So I checked out Drink 273 00:15:05,519 --> 00:15:09,679 Course, which is like a golf a golfing sort of. I don't even 274 00:15:09,679 --> 00:15:13,000 know you've ever play those those games. Back then it was like just an 275 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,480 isometric like Marble and you have to like move it through it. I don't 276 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,759 know what the hell those games are called, but yeah, I feel like 277 00:15:18,799 --> 00:15:22,480 everyone it was maybe like a flash game sort of thing or I don't even 278 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:28,759 know where, like a mini clip. Yeah, media shout us to mini 279 00:15:28,759 --> 00:15:31,240 Clip. Truly inspirational stuff. But anyway, it's kind of like that, 280 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,799 but mixed with Kirby. And then the other one, yeah, Magic Mirror, 281 00:15:33,879 --> 00:15:39,720 which is just a game Boy Advance Kirby game. And I just had 282 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,840 this realization that made me really happy about after playing, like checking out both 283 00:15:43,879 --> 00:15:48,080 of these games, is that, like Man Kirby is such like as a 284 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,519 as a series, as a character, as a collection of games, it's 285 00:15:50,559 --> 00:15:56,080 such a just amorphous blob of genre, Like there really isn't a set genre 286 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:00,600 you think of, like two D platform but I just love how perfectly that 287 00:16:00,799 --> 00:16:03,240 is. Like the character is this character who can just suck up enemies, 288 00:16:03,279 --> 00:16:07,720 take their abilities, and become whatever kind of character he wants to be. 289 00:16:07,799 --> 00:16:10,200 That's like the same way the games are. And I think that's such an 290 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,799 interesting idea because you think of like those the first games where like just very 291 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,000 basic two D platformers. The first game didn't even have the copyability, right, 292 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,519 and then they eventually added the copyability and that became more of that classic 293 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:25,840 like level based two D platformer. But then like there's been all sorts of 294 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,960 uh. There was like Dream Dream Buffet on the Switch, which was just 295 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,879 this weird like Fall Guys sort of game to it. There was you know, 296 00:16:30,919 --> 00:16:34,000 Kirby the Frotten Land, which is like the three D the three D 297 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,120 platformer sort of thing. There was Kirby Air Ride. I was gonna say 298 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:41,720 back in the day, yeah I had that one on GameCube. Yeah, 299 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,559 that game is so cool and so different. And then yeah, Dream Course 300 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,639 here with this kind of physics marble D based game, and then Magic Mirror. 301 00:16:47,639 --> 00:16:49,399 Was surprised me about that, is it. It seems like a straight 302 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:53,600 ahead two D platformer as far as Kirby goes, but it's truly more of 303 00:16:53,639 --> 00:16:57,679 like a metroid vania. And I didn't realize that Kirby had a metroid vania. 304 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,159 That was the genre. I wasn't aware Kirby had hit before. But 305 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,319 the game is so interesting in the structure where you go through these levels in 306 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,160 what Yeah, like I said, for the first two or three levels, 307 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:11,039 it seems like a basic a basic Kirby game. But then you're having to 308 00:17:11,039 --> 00:17:15,440 backtrack through these levels. You're unlocking like all sorts of portals or I guess, 309 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,880 these mirrors and you're going through these mirrors and they teleport you to different 310 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:19,920 spots and then man, at some point, you get like this map that 311 00:17:21,039 --> 00:17:22,000 it just looks like a subway map, you know, when you like look 312 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,079 at a transit map and it's like, if you live in the city, 313 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:26,160 that transit map makes a lot of sense. You're like, oh, I 314 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,079 know all these roads are, but if you're in a city, you don't 315 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,400 know. It's like this is complete fucking nonsense. And that feels like that 316 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:33,680 too. Him. I'm looking at this map. There's a world map too. 317 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,920 I'm like, I have no idea what this means. But as I'm 318 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:38,920 playing more and more, I'm like, Okay, I think I don't really 319 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,920 know where I'm supposed to go, but based on this map, maybe I 320 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,160 haven't explored in this place, and I'm gonna go try and look for a 321 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,480 secret entrance or a secret wall or something like that. And it works really 322 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:51,039 well for Kirby because this idea of like Metroidvania is of like, oh, 323 00:17:51,039 --> 00:17:52,799 you go, you keep going along, you see that there's this thing you 324 00:17:52,799 --> 00:17:56,279 can't jump to, but eventually get an item that lets you jump high enough 325 00:17:56,319 --> 00:17:57,599 and you can go back and check that out. That works so well for 326 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,839 Kirby because it's, oh, I just need to go get certain ability, 327 00:18:00,039 --> 00:18:03,960 that ability to help me break through this wall, and so it feels like 328 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:07,440 a bit more of a light version of a Metroidvania, And so that's been 329 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,160 really cool as well. But going back to Dream Course as well, like, 330 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,920 man, that game is super fun as well. Really Jakie controls hard 331 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,400 to like figure out what's going on for the first half an hour, but 332 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,359 man, I just got like addicted to it. It's really fun where it's 333 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:22,960 that kind of marbleie sort of game physics shooting. Kirby has a ball around 334 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,759 rolling around, but then of course you're like scooping up enemies on the way 335 00:18:25,799 --> 00:18:29,359 and then you're turning into their form electric Kirby, so you can like blast 336 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:33,839 through objects and the parasol so you can slowly float down and try and like 337 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:38,000 land in a specific spot cool like puzzle physics game. So checked out both 338 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,599 those games. Definitely gonna keep playing both of them. Just gave me even 339 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,960 more appreciation for Kirby as a genre and being this genreless blob which is just 340 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,160 so accurate for the character. So that was a that was a good time 341 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:52,400 checking out those games. It really has no set genre. It's just takes 342 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:56,480 on any form at wants. It's like water, you know, Yeah, 343 00:18:56,519 --> 00:18:59,519 I mean at this point, like when's the last like just standard two D 344 00:18:59,599 --> 00:19:02,799 Kirby came out, Like I feel like I don't even know if that's that's 345 00:19:02,839 --> 00:19:04,920 what the genre or what the character is by default. There's the Kirby the 346 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,000 epic yard one where you're like drawing lines and ridden around Like I don't know. 347 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,799 There's just been all these different genres, like even Mario, who of 348 00:19:11,839 --> 00:19:15,559 course has all these like sports games and racing games, but then all these 349 00:19:15,599 --> 00:19:18,079 different types of platforms, Like I feel like Kirby's up there in terms of 350 00:19:18,079 --> 00:19:22,200 the genre count. That's my character and I can't think of any other usually, 351 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,039 Like, of course, there's a lot of games that started as to 352 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,880 be platformers and then became three D and more explorative in that way, like 353 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:30,720 Metroid or any game. You know, as we went to the three generation, 354 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,039 but I feel like Kirby doesn't stop there. Kirby is like, let's 355 00:19:34,079 --> 00:19:38,240 see what other freaking genres we can craft up and weird amalgams that work with 356 00:19:38,279 --> 00:19:41,960 this copyability, which is like the general conceit of the character. It's really 357 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:47,559 cool. I'm waiting on the Kirby Guitar Hero release that genre. Man. 358 00:19:47,599 --> 00:19:51,039 I wonder if there's like a rhythm type game where it has rhythm elements to 359 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:55,799 it that seems like it would work. Definitely do it? Uh, Kirk 360 00:19:55,799 --> 00:19:59,240 Compounder, tell me about Returnal, Yeah, tell me about Uh, tell 361 00:19:59,279 --> 00:20:02,200 me about this? Pick up this game? I like, it's been on 362 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,279 my radar for a while, but I feel like I just kind of discounted 363 00:20:04,319 --> 00:20:07,200 it as just like a, I don't know, some sort of basic shooter 364 00:20:07,319 --> 00:20:10,920 game. I didn't know if it was a first person shooter or anything like 365 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,640 that. Do you know about this game? I'm assuming yes, you sounded 366 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,839 YEA. What I mean this is this has always been one where I'm like, 367 00:20:15,839 --> 00:20:19,480 Okay, whatever game finally pushes me to pick up a PS five, 368 00:20:19,839 --> 00:20:23,720 I'm gonna on day one by Returnal as well and play it and talked about 369 00:20:23,759 --> 00:20:27,039 it a lot with Dante because this was like his by far game of the 370 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,680 year of nice was that twenty twenty one when that came out, I think, 371 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,480 But when we did our best of categories, like every category, he 372 00:20:33,559 --> 00:20:37,799 was praising it. So yeah, I've talked to him a lot about Returnal. 373 00:20:37,799 --> 00:20:38,960 It's a favorite of his for sure. Yeah, I like I didn't 374 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:45,319 realize it's a rogue light game. It's very similar to Risk of Rain two, 375 00:20:45,319 --> 00:20:48,319 which is a big game that I absolutely love of where you just you 376 00:20:48,319 --> 00:20:51,200 have like one run that you go on, especially the fact that it is 377 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:55,920 a third person shooter, and the movement in this game just feels so satisfying, 378 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,559 and it's it it's similar to kind of a Soul's like game, where 379 00:20:59,559 --> 00:21:03,079 like It's it can be very punishing, but like a lot of it has 380 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,359 to do with your own mistakes, Like you can really pop off in this 381 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,799 game and just like feel so satisfied with yourself. But it is one that 382 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:14,519 like takes constant just awareness of what you're doing. I feel like it's it's 383 00:21:14,519 --> 00:21:17,440 really easy to be deep in a run and then just like let your guard 384 00:21:17,519 --> 00:21:19,400 down and you just get completely messed up. And it's very fitting with the 385 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:23,759 story because it is just this extremely hostile planet. They'll getting too much into 386 00:21:23,799 --> 00:21:26,839 the end of the story because I don't even know too much about it yet, 387 00:21:26,839 --> 00:21:29,160 Like it's you kind of unravel things as you go along, but you 388 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:33,880 crash land on this planet and then you find just like like I think you're 389 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,240 just answering like a distress call, and then you find like bodies on the 390 00:21:37,279 --> 00:21:41,079 ground and then they're they're revealed that it's actually your own body, and you're 391 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:45,960 just like seeing different versions of yourselves going like basically just just treading their path 392 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,440 and trying not to die in the same way that you have in the past. 393 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:55,240 And it's just really really like engaging story without like a lot of cinematics, 394 00:21:55,279 --> 00:21:57,160 and if that makes any sense, Like I feel like it is ninety 395 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,079 percent gameplay, which is just so much fun because that's that's why we play 396 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,839 games most of the time. But like, I just feel invested in the 397 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,759 story even though there isn't like a big deep cut scene or a lot of 398 00:22:06,799 --> 00:22:08,839 dialogue with other characters. Yeah, you'll find like when they do the story, 399 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:15,000 they make it count like it's percent, and there's like there's so many 400 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,200 little things hinted off early in the game that it reminds me of like a 401 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:22,240 really good old TV show, like maybe the first time I watched Lost, 402 00:22:22,319 --> 00:22:23,960 and they would just like like reveal something that I'm like, what the hell 403 00:22:25,039 --> 00:22:26,119 is that? And like like when is it gonna be revealed? And then 404 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:30,799 of course, like a couple couple episodes or maybe seasons downline, you get 405 00:22:30,799 --> 00:22:33,559 those answers. But do you think we'll do Geek first long enough that I 406 00:22:33,559 --> 00:22:38,200 will ever retro Lost? I don't know what, like would have to like 407 00:22:38,279 --> 00:22:41,759 Lost too or something like that. Now I feel like they would do like 408 00:22:41,759 --> 00:22:44,000 a Lost movie. I feel like at that point that would be huge. 409 00:22:44,039 --> 00:22:48,480 Like with every old series getting like remakes or sequels these days, I could 410 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,720 see them doing it one hundred percent. I'll get back to returnable quickly. 411 00:22:51,759 --> 00:22:55,720 On Lost, I I watched it way back in the day. I absolutely 412 00:22:55,759 --> 00:22:57,200 loved it, and then Shaye wanted to watch it, so I watched it 413 00:22:57,319 --> 00:23:02,000 through with her until like maybe the third last season, and I just forgot 414 00:23:02,039 --> 00:23:06,200 how truly awful those those later seasons can get. Yeah, that's weird. 415 00:23:06,519 --> 00:23:10,559 Early portions I dipped after probably the same amount of time. Yeah, early 416 00:23:10,599 --> 00:23:14,200 portions of the show though, oh my gosh, fantastic. But yeah, 417 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:18,440 in Reternal the reason why I made the comparison to Risk of Rain is just 418 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,880 the fact that you are on this hostile planet and you are doing these roguelike 419 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:26,720 runs, and like, really they can go either way depending on maybe what 420 00:23:26,799 --> 00:23:30,839 items you come across or which areas are just revealed in certain orders, because 421 00:23:32,039 --> 00:23:34,240 I find I don't know if it changes at later points of the game, 422 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:40,240 Like there has been times where I'll get like an artifact or something and then 423 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,319 it basically gives me like a redo as like, because normally if you die, 424 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:48,400 you'll just restart from like the start. It's as if that character dies 425 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,440 and then the next one like wakes up on the ship. So it's it's 426 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:52,960 really cool how that works. But you can get like little things that help 427 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,200 you out there. There's also different area, like something that you can unlock 428 00:23:56,279 --> 00:24:00,359 that will instead of dying and then waking up at your ship, you'll wake 429 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,079 up there. But all those things have to basically just be one like one 430 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:07,680 use. It's like a consumable type item, And yeah, just having lots 431 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:12,039 of fun with just the like the the combat involved in the movement, and 432 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,240 just very very punishing bosses. And there's some bosses that I feel like I 433 00:24:15,319 --> 00:24:18,839 just completely bop and then the next time I play against the exact same types 434 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,279 of bosses. They're movements, I just like I'm slow or something and I 435 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:26,920 just get like one shot by them. This game is cool too because there's 436 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,559 not really like a menu for it. You can't just save and quit. 437 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,240 It's like you can suspend your cycle, as they say, and then when 438 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,799 you come back, you're literally in that exact same spot. And then if 439 00:24:36,839 --> 00:24:40,640 not like you just die and like if you don't save or suspend your cycle, 440 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,319 I guess you'll just respond at the ship at the start of the game. 441 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:47,480 I was like controversial at launch because runs can be like several hours long. 442 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,720 Yeah, so I think they've improved it from launch. I think there 443 00:24:49,759 --> 00:24:53,279 was like no way you could even OK or something. I don't know, 444 00:24:53,319 --> 00:24:56,039 maybe because I don't know what it was, but it seems yeah, they 445 00:24:56,079 --> 00:24:59,920 must have added some things post launch to just make it a little bit more. 446 00:25:00,279 --> 00:25:03,119 It's it's like seafood that that seafood issue, where like the game was 447 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:07,119 just too difficult to actually like make it through and then they ended up adding 448 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,319 like an easier difficulty later on the line. But yeah, I absolutely just 449 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,640 love the whole cycle mechanic of it and just yeah, like I think the 450 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,440 biggest thing is the gameplay though. It's just so fun to play, and 451 00:25:18,599 --> 00:25:22,440 you move really fast in the game, but so do the enemies, like 452 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:26,279 it can be very punishing. There is a melee that you can kind of 453 00:25:26,319 --> 00:25:29,279 like cycling with your attacks, so you can get a little bit creative there, 454 00:25:30,279 --> 00:25:33,119 and just the different like firing modes and stuff. And I'm not really 455 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,559 big on the haptic controller at all. It's usually like a little bit annoying 456 00:25:36,599 --> 00:25:40,039 with the triggers, but for some reason, this game it's just really satisfying 457 00:25:40,079 --> 00:25:42,759 because if you like slightly pull the trigger, you'll aim, and if you 458 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:47,400 fully hold the trigger you'll do like an alternate fire, and I don't know, 459 00:25:47,519 --> 00:25:49,160 it just feels really good with the controls. So I'm so glad I 460 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,960 eventually tried this one out. The reason why I did was because I just 461 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,400 heard that it was like a Rogue Lake game, and like, what the 462 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,480 hell? I thought it was like a story game mixed in with uh well, 463 00:25:59,519 --> 00:26:03,279 like I said, but like mostly a just first person campaign type story 464 00:26:03,319 --> 00:26:07,480 where you're just going through levels of shooters. But yeah, it's definitely difficult, 465 00:26:07,559 --> 00:26:11,319 but I highly highly recommend just for the actual gameplay and how fun it 466 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:15,079 is to play and so satisfying when you're able to like beat a boss after 467 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,759 I mean, it's the soul's thing. If you're banging your head against the 468 00:26:18,759 --> 00:26:21,039 wall then you finally get through it, you just feel like you're on top 469 00:26:21,079 --> 00:26:22,720 of the world until you get smushed by the next monster that comes along. 470 00:26:25,079 --> 00:26:29,000 Yeah, is this game on PlayStation Plus in any Yeah, so I have 471 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,039 the As I said in the past, I have like the PlayStation equivalent. 472 00:26:32,079 --> 00:26:34,759 I think it's like PS extras or Premium or whatever it is, and it 473 00:26:34,799 --> 00:26:40,000 was on there and I really wanted to download it and just try it. 474 00:26:40,039 --> 00:26:44,079 And the reason why I love Risk of Rain two is I could just jump 475 00:26:44,079 --> 00:26:45,440 in and do a run and then like that's it. And that's the same 476 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,319 sort of idea with this game. It definitely satisfies just the big explosions that 477 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,960 you can get from a first person shooter, and the gameplay is just really 478 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,759 fun. Right. Yeah, I couldn't remember if Housemark had been acquired. 479 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,400 It was very close around this game's release, I couldn't or if it was 480 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,839 right before to right after it. Either way, the game would have started 481 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,920 outside of the PlayStation acquisition, but obviously they're another first party, makes sense 482 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,839 that they they would put it in there as part of the catalog. So 483 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,839 that's a nice, nice addition. So when I finally get that PS five, 484 00:27:12,839 --> 00:27:15,599 I don't even need to pick up the game anymore. Well I don't 485 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,640 need to buy it anymore, still pick it up. Yeah, you know, 486 00:27:19,039 --> 00:27:22,839 it's interesting because we've seen now like there's this Lastless Part two coming out 487 00:27:22,839 --> 00:27:26,559 with the roguelike mode God of War just callt that roguelike mode. I wonder 488 00:27:26,599 --> 00:27:32,680 how much of the decision of that was that those studios seeing the success of 489 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,160 Hostmark with Eturnal. It was a very successful game, even though Houstmark was 490 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,519 maybe more of a smaller niche studio before that, and I wonder if that 491 00:27:38,599 --> 00:27:41,960 kind of inspired these other PlayStation studios or it was even like the head the 492 00:27:42,039 --> 00:27:45,279 higher ups at PlayStation were like, hey, you should try this formula out 493 00:27:45,319 --> 00:27:49,079 as like an expansion for your your previous games because Returnal was such a big 494 00:27:49,279 --> 00:27:52,359 success. But either way, it's it's cool to see roguelikes which were just 495 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:57,039 strictly indie games for years, smaller scale, a bit simpler to get these 496 00:27:57,039 --> 00:28:00,119 big three D versions of it now, as you mentioned, like we've seen 497 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,880 so many of them now at this point, I feel like Returnals definitely like 498 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,440 the cream of the crop, as it were. It seems like God of 499 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,920 War. It's very much falling in the footsteps because it was also very story 500 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,119 focused as well as being just the roguelike. So it's cool to see that 501 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,559 happen more too. Obviously, again, like Haites really implemented the story, 502 00:28:17,599 --> 00:28:19,680 but then you have other some of my favorites like Buying Adviser or Splunky, 503 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,960 which really have no meaningful story. It's more just like they connect the story 504 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,720 afterwards. But yeah, it's cool to see. Obviously, these Sony studios 505 00:28:27,759 --> 00:28:30,359 are known for making great stories, so it's cool to see them implement it 506 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,480 into the roguelike format. Yeah. I like the lead to in it. 507 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,160 She uh case most of the time, right, Yeah, most of the 508 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,799 time you're just finding audiologues of yourself. So it's kind of interesting just how 509 00:28:42,799 --> 00:28:47,200 that happens, just you know, finding your old old corpses. But I 510 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:52,000 don't know, She's she's got a good uh whatever she's got for the little 511 00:28:52,039 --> 00:28:55,440 story that I've at least seen her about. I've also heard her death cry 512 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,279 multiple times. Yeah, I know there was a DALC that came out for 513 00:28:59,319 --> 00:29:03,640 this game to do you know. Yeah, so I guess I forget. 514 00:29:03,079 --> 00:29:06,519 I forget how it was implemented in there. But I don't know if that's 515 00:29:06,559 --> 00:29:08,440 something that would be a free update that therefore you would have access story or 516 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:15,559 if that's okay, it again ascension. It looks like, so, yeah, 517 00:29:15,599 --> 00:29:17,559 oh that is co op. I know that was one of the parts 518 00:29:17,599 --> 00:29:21,119 of that of that update, So I do know about that because early on 519 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,079 in the game you see the Giant Tower, and I think that's what you 520 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,640 go and do co op mode in. But I know there's also like a 521 00:29:27,759 --> 00:29:32,200 challenge rooms, and it might be the same sort of I think that. 522 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,640 I think it's probably the challenge room for more the update, so I have 523 00:29:34,759 --> 00:29:37,039 that available. It's like right by the ship when you start. But I'm 524 00:29:37,079 --> 00:29:45,240 like, that's probably really hard a challenge exactly, very cool, man, 525 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,799 I'm glad you're playing that. Excited to hear more about that in highly recommend 526 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,359 whenever I get that PS five especially since on the cattle some co ops. 527 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,160 Once you get that, that would be super fun. I love that. 528 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,720 I would love that. How about we take our first break and then we'll 529 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:02,279 get back and we'll start talking about some some nice dark fantasy games. We'll 530 00:30:02,279 --> 00:30:08,119 be right back. Okay, we are back, so let's let's let me 531 00:30:08,119 --> 00:30:11,519 talk about Ball or Dragon's Dogma. Sorry, and then we'll get into Tempted 532 00:30:11,559 --> 00:30:15,359 Me. We'll get to Bather's Gay. Don't worry, we'll be there soon 533 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,839 enough. But yeah, I mentioned this on our preview last episode. Form 534 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,160 who listened to that? But I have been jumping back into Dragon's Dogma, 535 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,720 which came out like well over a decade ago at this point. And then 536 00:30:26,759 --> 00:30:30,000 I think the version I'm playing was like a slight maybe remaster. It had 537 00:30:30,039 --> 00:30:33,079 some DLC content in there, the Dark Risen DLC whatever it is, That's 538 00:30:33,079 --> 00:30:37,000 what I'm playing on. They switch version. So yeah, this is a 539 00:30:37,119 --> 00:30:41,720 holy fuck. This is a weird fricking game in so many ways, and 540 00:30:41,799 --> 00:30:45,400 the mechanics in the story, in just the layout and presentation of it. 541 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,000 It is a very very odd game. And I don't really know much about 542 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,079 the studio specifically that makes I know it's under the capcom umbrella. But yeah, 543 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,519 really really Weird Games is a dark fantasy game that starts out with well, 544 00:30:56,519 --> 00:31:00,759 you started with in like the small tutorial area, and you're playing like 545 00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:03,200 not the character you make. You're just kind of learning the controls and whatnot, 546 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,880 and like already a lot of controls, and like it has the controls 547 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,559 on screen because there's so many different like button combos and like oh, hold 548 00:31:07,559 --> 00:31:11,160 the trigger and then you can do this special bonus and you're like controlling your 549 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,880 party as well. You're telling the back off or going and all this sort 550 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,960 of thing. So it's really like over the top. Right at the beginning, 551 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,599 this short tutorial sequence like fifteen twenty minutes long, you get like a 552 00:31:21,599 --> 00:31:25,319 big cinematic create your character, and then your boom into the game. And 553 00:31:25,599 --> 00:31:27,519 this is a part that's pretty insane about it is that like from that moment, 554 00:31:27,599 --> 00:31:32,640 after that first fifteen to twenty minutes, the entire map, the entire 555 00:31:32,759 --> 00:31:37,519 open world map, is accessible to from the very beginning. Uh, and 556 00:31:37,559 --> 00:31:41,400 it's not the structure of this game is like I don't know, there are 557 00:31:41,519 --> 00:31:42,720 what feels like a bit of a main quest, but then you're also just 558 00:31:42,759 --> 00:31:47,440 picking up like I within an hour of playing the game, I had twenty 559 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,680 five quests in my in my journal, just like all in there, and 560 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:56,480 a lot of them are just like sleigh fifteen bats, slay three ogres, 561 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,400 like it's a lot of that sort of stuff. But then there is are 562 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,440 a couple story specific ones as well, and it just really hams it up 563 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,559 there. But I've even found this so far that man, I'm getting like 564 00:32:07,359 --> 00:32:09,079 destroyed by certain enemies and it's like, well, I guess I probably shouldn't 565 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,039 go that way. But the game does not make it very clear where you 566 00:32:13,039 --> 00:32:15,359 should go or what you should be doing. And that's also very intentional. 567 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:20,240 And it's supposed to be a hard, punishing game where you're trying to like 568 00:32:20,519 --> 00:32:22,880 learn and figure everything out. But because of that, there's been some friction 569 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,079 in there. But yeah, for the most part, it's the third person 570 00:32:25,279 --> 00:32:30,359 action game, action adventure, and it's very much you know, it weirdly 571 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,920 feels like a lot a lot like an MMO, which I haven't really playedmos 572 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,720 for years and years. I played them a decent amount when I was younger, 573 00:32:37,759 --> 00:32:40,240 with like Tales of Pirates and Last Chaos is one I never played like 574 00:32:40,279 --> 00:32:44,400 Wow or any of the big ones. I was just playing the small like 575 00:32:44,839 --> 00:32:49,400 very cheap ones with my with my friend McCall who's been on geek First in 576 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,519 the past. But yeah, this game feels very much like an m and 577 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:57,640 the the enemies are very bolt spongy. It's very much about stats and equipment 578 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,440 and weapons rather than players skill, I will say, although that's definitely a 579 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,559 part of it as well. Uh. And then like the party element of 580 00:33:04,599 --> 00:33:07,559 it. So you're you're recruiting these characters called pawns, and I'll talk about 581 00:33:07,559 --> 00:33:09,000 those in a minute, becase that's this whole thing. Uh. And and 582 00:33:09,079 --> 00:33:13,400 you know, you you're kind of like, okay, maybe I'm a fighter 583 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,839 class and I want to bring like a magent so they can like heal, 584 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,640 So you're trying to do your composition. But then you're also sort of controlling 585 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,680 them. But then also they can just die, so you have to like 586 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,759 make sure you're like reviving them. And it's just it's a lot to manage 587 00:33:22,759 --> 00:33:25,279 at one point, and very early on you're getting into big battles. I 588 00:33:25,359 --> 00:33:29,119 have like, you know, fifteen enemies and then they all the other runnom 589 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:30,920 MPCs who take in on the fight, and it just becomes this very like 590 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:36,000 large scale thing, which works really well for the fantasy setting that it's in, 591 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,319 uh makes it pretty overwhelming too. But so this pawn system, this 592 00:33:39,319 --> 00:33:43,960 is what maybe what the game's most famous for, UH and what people look 593 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,440 back and when they talk about Dragons Doc when they're usual talking about the pawn 594 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,400 system. So essentially, you create your character at the start of the game. 595 00:33:49,599 --> 00:33:52,880 Cool makes sense, and then at some point, after a couple of 596 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:58,119 missions, you create a pawn. And a pon is just like the way 597 00:33:58,119 --> 00:34:00,920 to describe them in this game is that they're like they look like people, 598 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,000 they sound like people, they fight, talk like people, but they are 599 00:34:04,039 --> 00:34:07,480 not people. They're otherworldly beings. But instead, like because of that, 600 00:34:07,519 --> 00:34:10,239 they just end up being like these very like they they never really make any 601 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,400 sort of facial reactions, they don't talk in the story at all. But 602 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:19,440 they're just like these freakish like puppet people that exist in the world, and 603 00:34:19,559 --> 00:34:22,000 like you can recruit them sometimes just be walking along a trail and you'll see 604 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,840 a random pond. You can recruit them. You obviously make one of the 605 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:29,119 beginning. But then this is where like the online component of the game comes 606 00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:31,320 in a bit, so you can go into like this other realm and you 607 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:37,320 can recruit pawns, and these ponds can be other people's creations. So when 608 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:38,920 I went in my first room where I was, you know, it's essentially 609 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,440 like an interview. I went in, I was meeting all these different pawns, 610 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,400 deciding which one I wanted to recruit. Someone had made Severa from Fire 611 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,280 Emblem Awakening, and I don't I remember that character Kirkland. She's like the 612 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,480 redhead girl with like the two like her hairs coming up both sides. Oh 613 00:34:52,559 --> 00:34:54,880 yes, she's like a Mrmadan, I think, right in that game. 614 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,280 So one of the first ones I see is just someone recreating this character in 615 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:00,880 here. And from when I've heard people make all sorts of you know, 616 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:05,239 funny connections to make them look like other characters. But all the faces in 617 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,159 this game are super dirpy. So it's Severa with like the dirtiest face you've 618 00:35:07,199 --> 00:35:10,320 ever seen in your life, which is a funny thing. So, yeah, 619 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,840 you're you're bringing these pawns and then some of them are like really high 620 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,199 level, but then you need like a bunch of points to recruit them. 621 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,920 But it's it's interesting. It's kind of like you're controlling this this little party, 622 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,480 and you start to get attached to them, and like they all are 623 00:35:22,599 --> 00:35:25,480 very goofy and dirpy and have funny names. But yeah, you get like 624 00:35:25,519 --> 00:35:28,559 attached to them and you start growing on them, and you can like favorite 625 00:35:28,599 --> 00:35:30,920 them so you can recruit some of them later on. Like maybe I see 626 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:35,920 one it's like very high level, like someone made Tifa Lockhart from Final Fantasy, 627 00:35:36,159 --> 00:35:37,199 but like she's very expensive. I'm like, okay, I'll just favor 628 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,559 her and I'll go get Tifa later. It looks nothing like Tifa, but 629 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:44,960 I mean this person, this person tried their very best. But yeah, 630 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:49,119 so that's maybe one of the more interesting parts about it is this pawn system 631 00:35:49,159 --> 00:35:52,039 that incorporates the online element of it. And then obviously it seems like if 632 00:35:52,039 --> 00:35:54,559 you, you know, if people are recruiting your pond, using your pond 633 00:35:54,639 --> 00:35:58,159 leveling up, you as the player will get a lot of rewards. I 634 00:35:58,199 --> 00:36:00,320 don't know what that'll look like for me now playing game all these years later, 635 00:36:00,679 --> 00:36:04,599 maybe someone will pick my pawn and I'll get some some bonuses there, 636 00:36:04,599 --> 00:36:07,280 but I haven't really seen any of the fruits of my labor there at this 637 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,360 point. One thing I loved about at the class the classes at the beginning, 638 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:15,000 you have kind of the classic, uh you know, thief warrior mage 639 00:36:15,039 --> 00:36:17,840 type, but the the thief type is called the Strider class. I'm like, 640 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,840 of course I'm picking strider, like like Errgar and I'm I'm just being 641 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,960 a strider over here. So you get like the daggers and a bow and 642 00:36:24,079 --> 00:36:30,280 arrow and that. That's been a very fun class, like very high attack 643 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,320 rate. I like using the bone arrow. You get all sorts of other 644 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:37,880 powers and stuff in there. So yeah, it's it's been a a fun 645 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,039 time, but also very confusing time and a lot of friction in there, 646 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:45,800 but it's it's pretty pretty enjoyable. I think I'm gonna keep going with it. 647 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:50,440 Another thing, too, is it seems like they kind of incorporated a 648 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,119 little bit of like my go, what the what's that game called the classes 649 00:36:54,199 --> 00:36:58,800 game? What's my god? Shut? Yeah, I incorporate some of that 650 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,400 part. So one of the buttons you have at all times, it's just 651 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,159 a grab button, so you can like grab on enemies and like climb up 652 00:37:04,159 --> 00:37:06,559 them. And this is like a big part of it where it's like Venemi 653 00:37:06,599 --> 00:37:08,159 has like a huge tail if you target the tail. Eventually they'll chop off 654 00:37:08,159 --> 00:37:12,320 the tail and then it'll do like a big damage bonus, like certain Dark 655 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,239 Soul's bosses have that sort of thing, right. But then also you can 656 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:16,800 like climb up on an ogre and like try to slash them on the head 657 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:22,159 like a legoless in the minds of Maria there. So that's a fun part 658 00:37:22,199 --> 00:37:24,000 of it too, and it's it is janky, but it's fun just climbing 659 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,079 on this huge serpent creature and you're just climbing up them for so long. 660 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,760 So yeah, it's it's an interesting game. I don't know if I can 661 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:35,360 really recommend it. I think it's a very grindy, bullet spongy game, 662 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,920 which is typically not my cup of tea. But I also think this's like 663 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,679 a huge part of it where it's really just stat space and like maybe I 664 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:45,239 just don't have the right equipment yet and so maybe that'll change. But yeah, 665 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:46,719 it is. It is a hard and weird game. But yeah, 666 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,440 for anyone who's looking for like a weird dark fantasy thing now, it would 667 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,519 be a good time to check this out because the sequels coming out this year 668 00:37:52,559 --> 00:37:54,440 and I don't know, just like the next gen version or I guess kurrt 669 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:59,639 Gen version of Dragon's Dogma. It looks fricking great, so I haven't decided 670 00:37:59,679 --> 00:38:01,599 it if this is pursuing me, we want to pick up that sequel at 671 00:38:01,679 --> 00:38:06,800 launch or anything. But still a very interesting game, and I'm glad I 672 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,559 finally have gone back and checked it out a little bit. Yeah, I've 673 00:38:08,559 --> 00:38:13,960 always heard the name, I feel like, mostly because of just we're getting 674 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,039 into that or getting close to the release date at least for the second one, 675 00:38:17,199 --> 00:38:22,079 and I've always been somewhat intrigued. I didn't know like what it really 676 00:38:22,199 --> 00:38:24,840 was though, or the gameplay or anything really about it, so it's interesting 677 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,159 just hearing some of the mechanics. I feel like, I'm not really a 678 00:38:29,159 --> 00:38:32,480 big bullet spongy type type guy, like I tried to get into MMOs back 679 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,559 in the day just because I had friends that played them and wasn't really a 680 00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:40,000 big fan. And even the division that's was a Tom Clancy game, like, 681 00:38:40,119 --> 00:38:44,320 it has that effect for sure, where it is very bullet sponge boss. 682 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,960 It's never really been my thing, but it's just the whole pond thing 683 00:38:47,039 --> 00:38:50,800 is kind of funny. I was googling about it. When you're talking. 684 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:55,320 It's just a big meme, I guess amongst the right the Dragon's Dogma fans. 685 00:38:55,400 --> 00:39:00,239 But yeah, I mean it's interesting just hearing your takes on it. 686 00:39:00,559 --> 00:39:05,880 I didn't realize just all all of the effects and of the ponds and just 687 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,000 the different creatures and characters that are in there. Like seems like you can 688 00:39:08,039 --> 00:39:12,599 get pretty creative with the character creation. Although the faces look a little dirty. 689 00:39:12,679 --> 00:39:15,440 Yeah, seen some like feline type characters. Got some Kajite like characters 690 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,880 in there. Oh yeah, because it's the classic thing like obliving where you 691 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,920 can just you can turn up like the Gamma whatever of the of the skin 692 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,559 cars. You can make it like just like Shrek and other you know, 693 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:28,880 weird beasts. But yeah, it's it's a it's a weird element of the 694 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:34,599 game for sure. Yeah, the bullet spongy part of it. Because there's 695 00:39:34,639 --> 00:39:37,519 even like a tool tip early on that it's like, based on your stats, 696 00:39:37,519 --> 00:39:39,239 you might deal zero damage to enemies. If that is the case, 697 00:39:39,679 --> 00:39:44,280 go do something else. It's like what or it's like some fights might be 698 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,199 too hard, don't be afraid to run away. And it's like it's very 699 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:50,840 counterintuitive, you know, you always think like games hold our hands so much 700 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,840 that it feels like if you're early on in a game and you're wandering around, 701 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,960 you should be able to fight the things that are in your area if 702 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,760 you've unlocked that. Even in open world games, it's like usually the harder 703 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,599 call, it's gonna be like really far away. But like very early on 704 00:40:01,599 --> 00:40:05,239 in this game, you can just come across this group of fifteen lizards that 705 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,400 are invisible, and you deal like one to one hundredths of the damage every 706 00:40:08,519 --> 00:40:13,039 hit, and like they insta kill your pawns, and your pawns are healer 707 00:40:13,079 --> 00:40:16,480 and so you're getting destroyed. It's it's like a total mess. But then 708 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,320 it's like, I don't know, the game is like very much embracing that, 709 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,119 it's just not holding your hand. So I don't know. Maybe I 710 00:40:22,159 --> 00:40:24,400 should watch a couple of YouTube videos on it to get some early tips and 711 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:29,400 tricks too, because that's something I feel like I could do even early on. 712 00:40:29,519 --> 00:40:31,360 Like you, I was making a bunch of money and I had just 713 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,840 like my basic gear, and I'm like normally in a game like this, 714 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,920 I will save my money for the first fifteen hours. I will not buy 715 00:40:37,039 --> 00:40:39,679 anything unless I like need a health potion or something. Mostly I'm just like, 716 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,360 I'm saving money to later in the game when I feel like I understand 717 00:40:43,599 --> 00:40:45,480 the game. But I'm like, no, immediately in this game, I'm 718 00:40:45,519 --> 00:40:47,400 gonna go by even just the next tier of equipment, and it made a 719 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,960 huge difference to how much damage I was doing to like the level one goblins 720 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,079 in the world, and it made the game a lot more enjoyable. But 721 00:40:54,159 --> 00:40:58,719 yeah, like, man, my ideal world is the Ghost of Sushima, 722 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,519 like highest difficulty that they patched in where you kill enemies and two hits, 723 00:41:01,559 --> 00:41:05,400 but they also kill you in two hits. Like that's that's ideal to me, 724 00:41:05,519 --> 00:41:08,559 Like a zero bullet sponginess, just like super high stage, like deal 725 00:41:08,599 --> 00:41:13,199 tons of damage. I want more games to adopt that, because yeah, 726 00:41:13,199 --> 00:41:15,960 I'm definitely not not into the bullets bonging typically, but it makes every fight 727 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,679 feel like a boss wait in this game, which is a good thing too. 728 00:41:20,079 --> 00:41:22,320 That's fair. Yeah, uh so there you go. I'll probably report 729 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,920 back on that one when I have some more takes, but we'll see when 730 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:30,159 that happens. Kirkland. Two weeks ago, me and you, or more 731 00:41:30,159 --> 00:41:32,719 so me, I was talking about ballers Gate three. You were asking a 732 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,760 lot of questions about it, and then I got the discord ping I think 733 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,760 that night or a couple of days later or something within an hour that you 734 00:41:40,119 --> 00:41:44,880 trial that you had downloaded the trial, and then not long after that another 735 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,320 ping, that's that I bought the game. I've been playing ball just gate 736 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:50,159 through this opro and I've done all this stuff already, like oh shit, 737 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,400 let's go. So yeah, you obviously you jumped in, you picked up 738 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,880 ballders Gate three. Tell me about it, man, I'm saying, you're 739 00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,920 how this journey has been going for you? No? I I mean yeah, 740 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,000 Like on that cast you could just tell I was super eager asking all 741 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,119 the questions. And I've been really just itching for D and D lately. 742 00:42:07,159 --> 00:42:09,079 I haven't been in a campaign for a little while. It usually goes the 743 00:42:09,119 --> 00:42:13,599 way for all campaigns where it's like you got a schedule and then one person's 744 00:42:13,679 --> 00:42:15,159 like I can't do it this week and next week, Oh no, I 745 00:42:15,159 --> 00:42:21,760 can't do it this week and then, which is understandable. It's very hard 746 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,800 to be Dvan, so you know, shout out all the dms out there. 747 00:42:24,159 --> 00:42:28,079 But I've just been like getting that itch for it, and yeah, 748 00:42:28,199 --> 00:42:30,400 just hearing all the positivities about Balder's Gate. I've always said that I know, 749 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,400 I knew I was gonna get it, but I'm just gonna I'm just 750 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,920 gonna wait until I have a little more free time. Fuck free time. 751 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,800 We're gonna just cram it in there with our busy schedules, and I when 752 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,679 you love something, you will find free time. That's one thing I've learned 753 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:45,280 for exactly. I downloaded uh yeah, the free trial, so on PlayStation 754 00:42:45,559 --> 00:42:49,280 you can get the free trial for some games if you're a PlayStation Plush members 755 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,880 for two hours, and uh, you know, I I downloaded that. 756 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,840 I was in the character creation for who knows how long, and then you 757 00:42:55,880 --> 00:43:00,480 know, and then well, yeah, well while I'm in there, Shae 758 00:43:00,519 --> 00:43:02,159 was home and I was just telling her all about it, and I was 759 00:43:02,199 --> 00:43:05,159 I convinced her to want to jump in with me. I'm like, you 760 00:43:05,159 --> 00:43:06,880 want to add your character, you can do right now. She's like, 761 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,239 all right, let's do it. So by the time both of us were 762 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:12,400 done making our characters, it was about like an hour and a half. 763 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,719 So I think we had like thirty minutes of gameplay before the actual before the 764 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:21,599 trial expired. So has Shay ever had interest in D and D. She's 765 00:43:21,639 --> 00:43:24,760 been she's been in two campaigns, which OK with me, a couple buddies. 766 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:30,320 Yeah, so yeah, and we've had fun there and especially because we 767 00:43:30,519 --> 00:43:32,360 learned it together, so we kind of like somewhat of a base, which 768 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:37,360 I think helps jumping into Balder's Gate because there's a lot of a lot of 769 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,440 ways to handle situations in this game, and you can you can go just 770 00:43:40,519 --> 00:43:45,360 head on and you'll usually die because this game is actually very challenging in a 771 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:49,320 good way though, because I feel like it really forces you to think outside 772 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:54,000 the box. But yeah, just my initial thoughts were about I don't know, 773 00:43:54,079 --> 00:43:59,440 like six or so hours into the game. I think again, like 774 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:00,719 an hour and a half. That is character creation. I don't know how 775 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:06,840 like accurate the time is compared to where we should be, but we are 776 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,920 both having a complete blast play in this especially just the way that certain situations 777 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,679 play out. It's it's a D and D thing, like like you can 778 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,400 really have an idea of where you're going with a path, and then you 779 00:44:17,559 --> 00:44:22,280 just you don't get a good role. Now this character like hates you or 780 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,519 something, or or maybe one person makes a decision that the other person wouldn't 781 00:44:25,559 --> 00:44:30,000 wouldn't necessarily choose, but you're just you're going with it now or rolling with 782 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:35,239 the dice. And I'm really just loving like the world building that they're doing. 783 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,599 I really like the main story that they set up. I thought it's 784 00:44:37,639 --> 00:44:42,119 just a really great idea to set your character out on their journey. And 785 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:46,199 the party members that we've had are really really interesting, and like I said, 786 00:44:46,199 --> 00:44:49,880 were like six hours. I feel like I'm literally on the tutorial still, 787 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,880 like I still feel so early in the game, and there's so many 788 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:57,800 maybe little storylines that are hinted in some certain side characters, and maybe those 789 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,320 characters aren't even in my party because I have a whole party. I'm like, 790 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:01,280 I kind of want to swap that guy out because I find him a 791 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,760 little bit interesting and I want to know more about what's going on with them. 792 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,320 But I feel so bad whenever I kick in one out and they're like, 793 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:12,159 are you sure? Like I do? I do, but have four 794 00:45:12,199 --> 00:45:15,159 spots like the valuable spots. It's really tough, but I just think that 795 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,039 is such a great job, but really fleshing out the h the act, 796 00:45:19,199 --> 00:45:22,039 like the side characters, the party members, and the fact that you don't 797 00:45:22,639 --> 00:45:23,880 like. You can make decisions that they just don't like, and they could 798 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:28,400 leave your party and like that's just that and you you don't experience them and 799 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,639 you run, or maybe they just die and you don't revive them and they're 800 00:45:30,679 --> 00:45:35,840 just they're just dead there. But yeah, no, I I really really 801 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,960 like how how it plays. It looks absolutely beautiful too, and it runs 802 00:45:40,039 --> 00:45:44,599 really great on the PlayStation. I know you've had a lot of drops yourself. 803 00:45:44,599 --> 00:45:46,760 You had any crashes yourself? We have. We've had I think two 804 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:52,559 or three, and I think two of them were literally in the exact same 805 00:45:52,599 --> 00:45:55,400 spot when we we were like leveling up from level two or three. If 806 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,320 we both leveled up at the same time, it would just crash the PlayStation 807 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,960 every single time. It was really annoying. So I just before you we 808 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,519 went like split screen, I would just level up all the characters and then 809 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,599 I added her back in. But since then that hasn't been an issue, 810 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:14,800 fortunately. But yeah, no, the third one, I think it was 811 00:46:15,119 --> 00:46:17,480 it was literally just like a dialogue thing that like froze and then the game 812 00:46:17,559 --> 00:46:22,960 just crashed. Right. Is the split screen actual split screen or are you 813 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,280 still like sharing the same screen. It is split screen. Yeah, it 814 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:29,079 is split screen, which is really nice actually because I mean, as you 815 00:46:29,119 --> 00:46:30,079 know, as you're saying that, you guys, what the hell you want, 816 00:46:30,119 --> 00:46:34,800 you don't need to. And that has been anything so hilarious because you 817 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,079 know, sometimes maybe people in release whis could be a little stubborn. It's 818 00:46:38,079 --> 00:46:39,920 like, no, I'm going this way, okay, whatever, you go 819 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,960 that way, I'm going this way. And then all of a sudden, 820 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,960 two different like cut scenes activate. It's like, oh, I really got 821 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,159 to end this cut scene because I think she needs me, and then I 822 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:53,079 have to. That's literally what happened. I activated combat through my dialogue because 823 00:46:53,079 --> 00:46:57,760 I just I didn't want to back down and whatever, and then I maybe 824 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,199 failed like a chrisma check or something, and her and I were both in 825 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:04,519 like a one v five on each end. It was just so hilarious that 826 00:47:04,519 --> 00:47:07,800 we're both like freaking out and we don't have any idea what the other person's 827 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:08,920 dealing with. I mean, it's split screen, but you're so focused on 828 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:13,360 your own situation what's going on. So that has been really funny and a 829 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,679 learning curve of just you know, getting us to stay a little bit closer 830 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:21,760 together. And yeah, like it definitely is challenging. We're on the main 831 00:47:22,639 --> 00:47:24,800 whatever it's called, like the balanced game game mode there, and I still 832 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:29,440 feel like there is times that we've we've been very lucky with combat, like 833 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,760 a lucky role here there can work. And but it's nice because it forces 834 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,599 you to kind of really think outside the box, as I was saying earlier, 835 00:47:35,599 --> 00:47:39,000 and I feel like we have a pretty good, well rounded party right 836 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:45,760 now. I'm ye. My character is a te fleeing paladin, both of 837 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,880 the Ancients, I think it is. It's it's more so like a like 838 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:53,519 a healer type paladin class. Definitely defensive and very fun. On a previous 839 00:47:53,559 --> 00:47:59,119 Deed You campaign, I had paladin character and then she's playing a half ol 840 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,800 fighter believe it is. I can't remember what the subclass is. And then 841 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:06,800 we have Will in our party because we're doing something story related with him. 842 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:12,039 He's a really interesting character. And then Carlac I believe we have or no. 843 00:48:12,159 --> 00:48:15,079 I we had Karlac and then we had a we had to leave her 844 00:48:15,079 --> 00:48:17,840 behind, which I love her because she's just a barbarian and she pops off 845 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:22,119 and I really like her aesthetic. She's she's crazy. We have Lazel though 846 00:48:22,199 --> 00:48:28,599 for for r now good story, good main story character to have. But 847 00:48:29,119 --> 00:48:31,559 it's I love how they just each have their own different personalities and like if 848 00:48:31,559 --> 00:48:35,280 you recruit a new individual, you can kind of just hear their takes on 849 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,480 what they think of them. And some characters you know, don't necessarily like 850 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,880 each other, especially in the case of you know, Will and Karlac when 851 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:45,119 you first meet them. But yeah, no, I this game is so 852 00:48:45,159 --> 00:48:46,639 amazing. I tell all my friends who have who don't have it, who 853 00:48:46,639 --> 00:48:50,039 are in my same position, I'm like, just just get it, like 854 00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:52,119 it's gonna be so worth it, especially you know my friends that I do 855 00:48:52,199 --> 00:48:54,840 play D and D. I'm like, I know it's gonna be right up 856 00:48:54,880 --> 00:49:00,559 your alley. And I feel like every session we play, I find a 857 00:49:00,599 --> 00:49:02,039 new thing that you can do of like, oh, like I never even 858 00:49:02,079 --> 00:49:06,400 thought of using something like that, Like never thought that you could use just 859 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,039 mage hand to like pick up a javelin on the ground and throw it at 860 00:49:08,039 --> 00:49:13,599 an enemy, Like that's just so so genius. Or maybe entering like an 861 00:49:13,679 --> 00:49:17,199 area that has trap doors that was such a funny moment for us because I 862 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:21,440 don't I don't remember what area we were in, but we definitely activated a 863 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,920 trap. I think it was my character that just opened up a sarcophagus and 864 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:28,119 just these firebolts were going everywhere. Oh I think I did that. Really, 865 00:49:28,159 --> 00:49:30,199 that's like in that early area in that temple thing. Yeah, exactly, 866 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:34,559 literally murdered everyone in our party except for Shay and I and we're just 867 00:49:34,599 --> 00:49:36,480 like in a corner. I'm like, oh, they'll turn off, don't 868 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,199 worry about it, and like they were not turning off. Just the firebolts 869 00:49:38,199 --> 00:49:43,119 were going forever. And then we ended up finding like a button that she 870 00:49:43,159 --> 00:49:46,440 shot an arrow at which which deactivated them, and just really satisfying having that 871 00:49:46,519 --> 00:49:52,920 like resolution and that scroll around one room alone probably took me half an hour 872 00:49:52,599 --> 00:49:57,960 just to slowly each turn, just very slowly navigate and trying to get those 873 00:49:58,039 --> 00:50:00,960 perception checks to find all the yeah, different traps. Eventually found that that 874 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,880 button as well. You know, it's so satisfying with how those checks happen, 875 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,039 because of course, when you're playing D and D, like your DM 876 00:50:07,039 --> 00:50:09,400 will just be rolling for those sort of things to maybe just randomly occur. 877 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:13,599 Maybe you're you have to do like a perception check or something on your own. 878 00:50:13,599 --> 00:50:15,920 But when you just enter a room and it says like perception check failed, 879 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:20,800 and you're like, oh, what did I not see? So things 880 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,199 like that, or there's so many little hidden things that you can just come 881 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:27,280 across, whether it's like a hidden chest or something that if you have the 882 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,559 right perception you can just find it there, as well as just I don't 883 00:50:30,599 --> 00:50:35,559 know, like just random things you can come across that maybe you just thought 884 00:50:35,599 --> 00:50:37,039 it was like a dead end, but then it leads to like a cavern 885 00:50:37,119 --> 00:50:40,079 with just really like strong enemies and like, yeah, I can't believe they 886 00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:44,360 designed this whole area and this tiny little thing that like I feel like such 887 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,559 a small percentage of people would actually like go in here, but you know 888 00:50:46,599 --> 00:50:52,119 it leads to a full spider dan or something like it's just so insane how 889 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,639 expanse the world is. And like I've already said, like I'm so early, 890 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:59,320 I'm still at the tip of that iceberg. I can't wait to keep 891 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,480 going on it. Talking to my one buddy, uh, you know, 892 00:51:01,559 --> 00:51:06,400 Tyler, one of the tires that we know, one of the many tires 893 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,360 that we know, I guess, and and just hearing like how he's handled 894 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:14,039 certain situations versus mine, and like he he doesn't even know who Karlak is 895 00:51:14,079 --> 00:51:15,320 and he's in like act three I think, and I'm like, man, 896 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:19,760 that's crazy to me. Uh, but like it's fair because like there's certain 897 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,119 NPCs that I I don't even I don't even have that that he has, 898 00:51:22,159 --> 00:51:27,119 like Gail the Wizard, like Shade. I never encountered that guy. That's 899 00:51:27,199 --> 00:51:30,000 also insane to me. Yeah, that's like so early on. Yeah, 900 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:35,079 yeah, it's just she's like down by the river, like hidden by the 901 00:51:35,159 --> 00:51:39,639 tree her. Because Gail's like in that portal type thing that you find early 902 00:51:39,679 --> 00:51:42,480 on, and like when we went up to it, I'm like, that's 903 00:51:42,559 --> 00:51:44,760 dangerous. I don't want to touch that. And we just get so we 904 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,760 just we just we just stay in that realm. Yeah, poor guy, 905 00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:51,880 you know, he's just in the Quantumanium realm now. But he's going through 906 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,920 some stuff all I won't say much, but yeah, he's he's going through 907 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:58,440 some ship in the in the story. Yeah. So I absolutely love the 908 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,280 game. I don't really know what else to say other than just are you 909 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:05,360 still at the Goblin camp? Is that wor that's the last time I talked 910 00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,000 to you? So yeah, when we were we were progressing through that, 911 00:52:08,159 --> 00:52:13,719 and it ended up going a bad route where she like committed a crime or 912 00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,400 something in it, so like she literally got thrown in jail, not just 913 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:20,039 like violent with the goblins, and then she was in a different area than 914 00:52:20,119 --> 00:52:24,000 us. Then like my crew just started attacking the goblins, and then it 915 00:52:24,079 --> 00:52:28,159 was she was in like a different room that couldn't get out of and then 916 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,679 we were just against like the whole cab goblin camp and it's like were you 917 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:35,159 on the interior, We're on the interior. Yeah, we made it through, 918 00:52:35,159 --> 00:52:38,400 like we made it without spoiling too much. Like we got to an 919 00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:43,000 area that we were talking to one of the Drow people or like the Drow 920 00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,000 lady in there, and then we were like friendly with everyone up until that 921 00:52:46,079 --> 00:52:50,000 point. And then she just like randomly opened like a red box, you 922 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,760 know, the one that you get a bounty on, and then she just 923 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,440 went to jail and it's like, oh, okay, I guess that's it. 924 00:52:54,519 --> 00:52:59,440 And then by the end of that like the combat wasn't going well like 925 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,599 we did we draw like two characters, like let's just reload that save and 926 00:53:01,599 --> 00:53:05,840 then we haven't jumped back in yet. And that was our schedules just haven't 927 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,519 fully aligned this week, so but so I think that was last weekend when 928 00:53:07,559 --> 00:53:12,440 we played. But uh, yeah, I'm excited to get through that because 929 00:53:12,679 --> 00:53:15,840 I'm not sure how much further than that there still is an Act one. 930 00:53:15,039 --> 00:53:19,280 Like when I was talking to Tyler there, he was saying that he felt 931 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,639 like there was still a lot of things in Act one that he just didn't 932 00:53:22,639 --> 00:53:25,039 do, and like when when he got through Act Act two, he was 933 00:53:25,559 --> 00:53:29,480 maybe under the impression that, like there is multiple ways to kind of end 934 00:53:29,599 --> 00:53:31,199 that act. But you know, he was saving spoilers from me, But 935 00:53:31,679 --> 00:53:35,679 I've heard about just some of the things that he's he's gone against, Like 936 00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,440 he was telling me a little bit about the Beholder battle that he went up 937 00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,559 against, and I'm just like, man, what an iconic character in D 938 00:53:40,639 --> 00:53:44,000 and D. I can't wait to find I don't even know what that means. 939 00:53:44,159 --> 00:53:47,599 Okay, there you go. Yeah, yeah, I I feel like 940 00:53:47,639 --> 00:53:53,719 for Act one on my single player save, I probably spent like fifteen to 941 00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:57,000 twenty hours in Act one. Okay, yeah, so I feel like they're 942 00:53:57,159 --> 00:53:59,760 a lot. But then also, like when I was spending with my my 943 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,199 friend in our coal play through, like there's a whole area that we just 944 00:54:02,199 --> 00:54:07,239 didn't even happen upon Inact one. So obviously you can skip past certain things. 945 00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,000 I tried to do as much as I could because I was stuck at 946 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:13,119 this really, really tough encounter and I was like, I need to get 947 00:54:13,119 --> 00:54:15,559 any amount of XP I possibly can. So I was going around the map 948 00:54:15,559 --> 00:54:20,119 trying to clear any quest, trying to just murder anything I could, essentially 949 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,800 to get enough xpedd Charlie, I was think I was trying to hit level 950 00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:27,000 five because I was I was just struggling so much with the sequence, and 951 00:54:27,039 --> 00:54:29,119 so that's where I found a couple of quests that I'm like, man, 952 00:54:29,159 --> 00:54:31,599 I totally totally miss this. So there's definitely a lot you can you can 953 00:54:31,679 --> 00:54:36,679 skip past. But now I just I just had so much fun exploring that 954 00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:38,800 whole area. So I think I've seen, Like I mean, obviously there's 955 00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:43,519 a million permutations where these things can can roll out differently, but in terms 956 00:54:43,559 --> 00:54:45,360 of like Act one, I think I did kind of everything in that big 957 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:51,599 loading zone area with like the village there, going over to the Golden Camp 958 00:54:51,639 --> 00:54:53,239 and whatnot. I think I saw most of that stuff. I'm sure there's 959 00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,760 a couple of caves I missed on the way, but yeah, I was 960 00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,880 pretty thorough. But I since I haven't had my Xbox with me for the 961 00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:01,760 last week and whatnot, I don't think I've actually played more since we talked 962 00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,719 of it, so it's uh. But like I said on the episode, 963 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,119 I am in no rush to play through the game. If I finish it 964 00:55:08,119 --> 00:55:10,840 this year, that's great, but I have twelve months to do so. 965 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,440 But we'll see. I'm not not in any sort of hurry. But I 966 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,400 think it would be fun, like once I'm I have way more knowledge on 967 00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:21,280 the game or finished a play through, if I'm still wanting to play more 968 00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:23,480 to do like a co op run on like the hardest play through, that 969 00:55:23,519 --> 00:55:27,679 could be really interesting. Yeah, you as like the tactics, guys, 970 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,960 I feel like we could we could throw down. It would probably be pretty 971 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:34,719 pretty tough, but more knowledge on the game and just having that that tactics 972 00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,880 history, that could be that could be fun. Because honestly, I think 973 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:39,159 but it is, my favorite part of the game is the combat. As 974 00:55:39,199 --> 00:55:43,599 much as I love the dialogue, conversations, exploration, I think if I 975 00:55:43,639 --> 00:55:46,920 didn't zero on one part, I really do love that that combat system that's 976 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:51,880 kind of turn based tactics e but not on Not on the Grid a little 977 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,000 Midnight Sunsy As I mentioned to Travis, like it's it's got a little bit 978 00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,119 of this little bit of that. There's so much variety in terms of the 979 00:55:57,159 --> 00:56:00,039 parties and enemies and the locations and set pieces. So I I really really 980 00:56:00,119 --> 00:56:05,440 love the combat in it. Yeah, I started a single player character that 981 00:56:05,599 --> 00:56:07,679 like, I'm only like an hour or so in, Like I didn't really 982 00:56:07,679 --> 00:56:09,159 get too far and I'm really just close to that starting area. But I 983 00:56:09,199 --> 00:56:15,840 made a wizard on that tactical difficulty and it's nothing too crazy, but I 984 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:21,239 did find that like a lot of the like the way that combat can go 985 00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,800 is like if you have a low roll and they get high roles, like 986 00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:27,599 you could just get one shot before you even do anything at the start of 987 00:56:27,639 --> 00:56:30,639 combat, so you do, like obviously it does come down to the roles 988 00:56:30,639 --> 00:56:34,679 at the end of the day. But that is also what's kind of forced 989 00:56:34,679 --> 00:56:37,039 me to be a little bit more tactical when it comes to the combat or 990 00:56:37,119 --> 00:56:40,280 whatnot. So I feel like I'm just getting better because on the heart of 991 00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:45,000 it, you're kind of forced to do that. And then yeah, so 992 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,599 is there is there any other change, Like, is it just like health 993 00:56:47,679 --> 00:56:53,119 and bullet sponginess for the hardest difficulty or is there other changes to the to 994 00:56:53,159 --> 00:56:58,920 the gameplay or combat? Yeah, Like I know, like certain characters can 995 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:00,039 kind of react a little bit hard. Sure, Like if you use like 996 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:04,639 person for example, right, I guess just any interaction might be like a 997 00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,400 higher role required, right, and uh yeah, Like and then if I 998 00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:12,840 use like charm person on someone to just like get success on a certain I 999 00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,960 don't know charisma check and I fail it, they'll like know that I try 1000 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,000 to charm them, and then they'll be even more upset. So things like 1001 00:57:19,039 --> 00:57:22,559 that's cool. Transfer that seems like it, Yeah, really kind of double 1002 00:57:22,559 --> 00:57:27,599 incentivizes playing to your character and really roll playing and not just being in jack 1003 00:57:27,599 --> 00:57:30,199 of all trades. And if you have low stats, but like the role 1004 00:57:30,239 --> 00:57:32,079 you need is attend, you could probably still get away with it. Whereas, 1005 00:57:32,639 --> 00:57:36,880 yeah, if the roles are more harshing, more harsh there, even 1006 00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:38,679 if you're not necessarily rolling worse, but you just have to roll a lot 1007 00:57:38,719 --> 00:57:42,559 higher more consistently, that would Yeah, that makes sense. You really want 1008 00:57:42,559 --> 00:57:45,119 to depend on the sequence of your about to going to maybe bring the right 1009 00:57:45,159 --> 00:57:47,719 party members who have have certain stats and that sort of thing. So yeah, 1010 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:53,639 sounds sounds cool, But I I'm pretty far away from another play through, 1011 00:57:53,719 --> 00:58:00,760 I think at this point, so much to do yet. Yeah, 1012 00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:06,880 any anything anything else on boulders Gate that you wanted to mention, Not yet, 1013 00:58:07,719 --> 00:58:09,480 It'll be a never ending, you know, update cycle. I'm sure 1014 00:58:09,639 --> 00:58:13,280 once we get further along, I will say. It's so nice that you 1015 00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,000 know Shay's enjoying it as well, because it's been a lot of fun just 1016 00:58:15,079 --> 00:58:21,880 going through those situations together. And yeah, no, it's it's good cool. 1017 00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:23,559 Uh yeah, I mean I think that's one me and you will probably 1018 00:58:23,559 --> 00:58:27,360 be talking about for months and months and months at this point, so we'll 1019 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:29,239 we'll talk about that more in the future. But I think, yeah, 1020 00:58:29,239 --> 00:58:30,679 a nice, shorten sweet episode is due here, because we do have that 1021 00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:36,039 draft coming later this week, like I said, and all sorts of other 1022 00:58:36,159 --> 00:58:38,400 rankings and drafts going on right now as we ever. MCU Golden Geeks coming 1023 00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:42,559 up, follow by the other regular Golden Geeks and whatnot. So a lot 1024 00:58:42,639 --> 00:58:45,679 lots lots coming on here, lots of fun stuff to check out. Thank 1025 00:58:45,719 --> 00:58:50,199 you everyone for listening, Thank you for uh yeah, check this one out 1026 00:58:50,239 --> 00:58:52,719 and we will see you again later this week. Bye bye B.