Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and I'm Catherine Jileco.
As parents and parenting writers, we can't help but see everything through a parenting
lens. But as our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm going over the same parenting
topics over and over. So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom
anywhere, we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we thought about
it, and maybe what we can learn from it, if only what not
to do. Watch and listen along, and let's all make like we're doing
something important for our families. Each Wednesday, we're bringing you a watch or
rewatch of an older entertainment property, And for this week of July eighth,
we are kicking it off with Lost, which originally premiered almost twenty years ago
on September twenty second, two thousand and four. We have to go back
the joke that you will not get for quite some time, But okay,
I have actually watched all of Lost the first time through and enjoyed it a
great deal, even as the general overall consensus on it went down like a
broken airplane. But I liked it all the way to the apparently controversial ending.
It did meander quite a bit toward the middle because it had the misfortune
of being a huge hit, and so ABC wanted it just to run forever.
It was like, well, you know, you set up the chessboard
and then you say, just move things around for a little while, right,
Okay, so we're going to watch this in increments and at some point
you say, oh, enough of this, we will bail. But for
the moment, the first dozen episodes I think are pretty fantastic. This pilot
is sort of accepted as pretty spectacular, and also the two parts of it
being the most expensive pilot ever pilot in terms of the of the actual episodes,
not in terms of the actual pilot. Who hey, it's Greg Grunberg.
I didn't know Greg Grunberg is in this show. He's not not for
long. Yes, the actual pilot was about two minutes, but the two
episodes together anyway, So you just get plunged right into this thing. What
did you think of it? Well, I regret to say that it made
me sick. Oh no, not, or if there would be shaky cam
there was shaky cam. So the gore, I can handle the guy getting
sucked into a plane engine a okay, yeah, jungle no, no,
exactly, running through the jungle turbulence. It's rough, so I'm going to
stick with it. I did have to, you know, avert my eyes
for some of it, but I'm hoping that after this initial bit it gets
better. Question, there's a fair amount of running around for a lot of
it, Okay, so we'll see, We'll get through the pilot. I
mean, as it goes along, there are more and more flashbacks, and
the flashbacks are not that way right, but I mean in a jungle with
some unidentified monster. Yeah, you're always gonna have certain amounts of panicked running.
But I think you could close your eyes during it, probably with no
ill effect. So yeah, I was thinking about that. I was wondering
if it's gonna be a problem. Yeah, I might try into your general
distress, right exactly. I may try like watching it on my phone or
something and maybe maybe like a small screen will it will be better for me.
So, but you know, I've been curious about it for so long.
I didn't watch it at the time. I had very small children,
but I knew people were talking about it, and it's also it was one
of those things where like I felt, you know, you have to start
at the beginning, and if you don't, yes, you know, you'll
never ever. I mean, as it is, you barely know what's going
on, right, So yeah, it's a while before you know what's going
on, possibly the entire time. Right, it's gone, right, but
tuned it in the middle, you would be in a like a mediocre episode
that would not make you excited about it. So right, I do watching
it again now, I do kind of love the way it just man,
it just starts. Hang on, We're going there's a lot in that first
episode, Yes, a lot of WTF going on. And there are a
lot of characters in this thing, and we didn't even meet all of them
or put a name on all of them. In this I think we got
like about ten seconds of Sawyer lighting a cigarette or something, okay, and
he turns out to be a very pivotal character. Sayid, I think just
moved a heavy object. Right, So jin AND's son, we're talking in
Korean, so you wonder what's going to go on with that. So it's
like these people and there's the man and the young boy yes, and then
there's the Terry O'Quinn just kind of walking around looking mysterious and put the orange
with an orange feeling. Okay, way to creep everyone out. But just
the sort of visceral chaos of that scene the beach with not I mean,
you've you've the worst possible thing in the world has happened. You've crashed landed
into an island, and then the wreckage just keeps attacking you, right,
it can't even just stop. There's fuel sprang around, there's large pieces falling
on people. There's like I said, I have to look away. I
know that guy getting sected to the engine is coming up, and it's like
it's still maybe we should move down the beach a little bit, right,
we could get away from this. This just just horrible hulk of hey doom
doom. Yeah, yeah, I love the I was noticing, particularly the
camera angles this time in that you know, you have Jack running to the
beach and he looks one way and it's just nothing but peaceful sand and waves,
and you see that from his point of view, and then he turns
the other way and you see him so you don't see what he's seeing.
You start to hear screams, but you don't see it for a little while,
until then all of a sudden they flip and it's just hell yeah.
And then they do it again a couple of times I know with well they
do it with the when the pilot is yes, like has the pilot reflected
in the water before you see him actually in the tree, And I think
the same thing with the cockpit. They're running and they they when they find
it. You see their faces before you see I believe at that point I
had my okay through the jungle to get there. Yes, you did have
have Kate and Charlie chatting about his mediocre pop career away. Yes, I
did. I did watch that. That part was I was like, this
is from an entirely another show. What is this, Let's have that before
we have the climbing up into the cockpit at an angle. Mm hmm.
I a lot of sets which I didn't understand, like if the plane wouldn't
it be nosed down? I don't know. Maybe it did go nose down
and then flop. Yeah, I'm not sure. I mean I said the
same thing to my husband because he watched it. We watched it together,
and I think the nose, the front of the planet came off, and
so then at that point it could land probably in any way. Yeah,
yeah, it was no longer nose first at that point it was a falling
piece of metal. Yeah. Yeah. The first first parenting advice to be
gleaned from this episode is do not ever let your child watch it because you
will never get them on an airplane. We never mind the wreckage, the
flashback to the turbulence and people flying around the cabin and all that. No,
no, thank you, I must stay here, right, I personally
have no more intention to fly. So it's okay, but that is pretty
the yeah, terrifying. Well, it's interesting that, you know, Jack
is the pob character at least right now, and he's very parental as a
doctor. You know, he's telling everyone what to do, and it's interesting
that you know that is such a position of respect and yeah and power.
You know, as soon as somebody finds out you're a doctor's like, okay,
well he's gonna he's gonna fix everything. You know, he's gonna deal
with this guy's torn off leg and this pregnant woman and this lady who's not
breathing and this, you know lifeguard who's terrible at his job, like he's
just gonna he's very good at gathering pans, right, and at some point
he's counted how many people and how many hours it's been, you know,
he's gathered information which we didn't even see him doing. Yes, yes,
he's quite impressive. And sometimes it's because you're a doctor, and sometimes it's
just because you're the guy who comes in there and and takes charge of people
who are just going we're just wandering around in a stupor. Yeah, yeah,
in hellish chaos. Yeah, but uh, it's just like tapping her
sew up his side, Oh my god. Oh yeah, it's okay,
I'll put vodka on it. Right, have you ever sewed? I made
curtains, like, but he's a sewing machine. Right, that's fine,
you can do it. But I guess it tells us something about her too,
that she says, okay, right, if you say so out Yeah,
yeah, you know, shaky cam there, but you got to look
away. Yeah. Well then they didn't really show that much of it.
It's just the thought of it. Yeah. They mostly showed him him wincing,
right, Yeah, oh well that that complete focus and control during chaos.
Whether it's because you're a doctor, whether it's because you're a control freak,
I don't know, but it does feel very parenting, as you said,
like you are the one called upon to figure it out for everybody else
and they are all looking to you, and you cannot panic. You have
to be like, oh, this is fine, you know. And there
are sometimes when you can do it and it's such a rush when you come
into a situation you're like, okay, you do this, you do that,
where it's like you feel like superhuman. And then there are other times
when there's a monster, a force of anarchy that you cannot see. I
can't say. Yes you can do is dive into some bushes, right like
you are on your own. Oh I have you know. There are days
and there are days right, we'll have those days when when we can make
everything okay. But I E I liked the thing he said about I mean,
it's it's scripted bs because human brains don't work this way. But still
I like the idea of count to five. Let the fear, you know,
be afraid for five seconds, and then do what you need to do.
I do always liked with my kids. The counting, So there is
something comforting about that, right, you know, count ten and then you
need to make a transition instead of just immediately saying we'll just just get out
of what you were that and then do this. Yeah, so that is
interesting. It is more a psychological detail of Jack than it is a realistic
thing to pick up. Yeah, when you'll have somebody's spinal fluid just pouring
all over the place. Five and then I sewed her up and then I
fixed it. Oh Jack, But uh yeah, but counting counting in some
form I do recommend as a counting tactic, whether you're counting to yourself to
get over that feeling of anger, or you're counting to your kid to help
them through a transition. You know, there was a there's like one,
two, three Magic was a big thing when my kids. Yeah, did
you have that book? And three? Never did it? But if I
counted to ten, my son could transition. And I'm like, whatever it
takes, give them the extra seven seconds. Where are you going? You
know, right, nothing that important. If it works, it's like,
well, if it's not, you don't snap two and three, we're gonna
have a whole thing. Yeah, I'll give them ten, right, And
also, if you're gonna make that threat, boy, you better be ready
follow through. Yeah. Yeah, it was a time out chair, which
is sort of like sort of like what the count is and in a gentleman
in Moscow. But it's a very endless one anyway. So other than the
shaky cam, this was this is kind of scary fun. I know some
of the things that are coming up right for the different characters, but it
was sort of fun to see them just shorthand introduced in this and go oh
yeah that guy right, yeah, oh, she was here at the beginning.
I don't remember she was here at the beginning. If she wasn't there
at the beginning, how would she get there? Yes, there's also a
very nice dog who looks like he's been freshly groomed running around the island.
Yes, looking at Jack. Are we meant to think that the dog was
on the island already or we just I tell you right, that would be
a spoiler. Pretty sure, next episode we find out about the dog.
Okay, the dog has been mentioned, but it's a good looking dog.
Yes, all right, I will I will hold hold your dog thoughts.
Yes, okay, the sewing kit surgery made me think of how I always
used to have alcohol swabs and band aids in my purse at all times from
when my son picked his skin open. It's good to be prepared, right,
never occurred to me to have a sewing kit. And okay, so
it was a big cut and I needed to you know, do you think
a needle from a travel sewing kit could actually pierce skin? I'm not sure
it even peers fabric? Yeah, but and would you have enough thread for
that? That cut was like six inches long and the two of them weren't
there. It was a nasty injury. Yeah, And would fuck actually keep
you from screaming? I don't know if you drink? Well, he just
counted to five and then did Yeah. We're gonna learn more about that,
fella. But we will be getting the second half of the pilot next week,
which of the of the pilot episodes. Right, the pilot is still
in one piece, but quite dead. And we will see you back here
tomorrow for our weekly roundabout roundup, including the library find of the week,
the segment that is not going away. We still will talk about books.
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