WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.800 --> 00:00:17.199 This is the Art of wrestling with professional wrestler called Cabanda. Oh thank you, 2 00:00:25.320 --> 00:00:29.760 all right, thank you? Hi guys doing come on in, sit 3 00:00:29.800 --> 00:00:33.399 down, Relax, You're about to listen to the art of wrestling a professional 4 00:00:33.439 --> 00:00:36.840 wrestling podcast. It's a live podcast as a personal journal. It's an entry 5 00:00:36.880 --> 00:00:39.039 way into the minds that souls the hearts and lives of the people involved in 6 00:00:39.039 --> 00:00:43.280 the world of professional wrestling. I am your host. My name is Cold 7 00:00:43.320 --> 00:00:53.679 Cabanda. Hello, and I am not sitting here live from my studio in 8 00:00:53.960 --> 00:00:58.479 Chicago, Illinois. Thank you one person who remembers the podcast. I am 9 00:00:58.520 --> 00:01:02.960 here in front of a live student audio audience in Waterloo, Iowa, at 10 00:01:02.960 --> 00:01:10.920 the National Wrestling Hall of Fame weekend. Before we go any further, this 11 00:01:10.959 --> 00:01:15.040 is a live podcast supported by each and every single one of you. We 12 00:01:15.159 --> 00:01:19.200 used to give it to you every single week free on a Thursday, but 13 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:23.000 now whenever I get around to it, I'll throw one out. I appreciate 14 00:01:23.079 --> 00:01:29.239 you. The best way that you can support is coultmerch dot com. Still 15 00:01:29.319 --> 00:01:33.959 still throwing stuff over there, Twitch dot tv, slash Colt Cabana. Come 16 00:01:34.040 --> 00:01:38.799 watch me play Fortnite. As a forty three year old man that seems to 17 00:01:38.799 --> 00:01:47.040 be weirdly popular. 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Every single month, every single year. 27 00:02:31.479 --> 00:02:35.400 It's an annual thing I do is come here to the National Wrestling Hall of 28 00:02:35.479 --> 00:02:38.039 Fame. I love that you are here, and I try to explain it 29 00:02:38.080 --> 00:02:45.319 to everybody that there's this weird hidden gem in Iowa of great wrestling fans and 30 00:02:45.400 --> 00:02:49.400 a great wrestling crowd, and like all these stars of professional wrestling come out, 31 00:02:49.840 --> 00:02:52.879 and I still think it's like a beautiful hidden thing, and I think 32 00:02:52.919 --> 00:02:55.439 you are all to the right thing here, and thanks for coming. I 33 00:02:55.479 --> 00:03:01.759 love the museums. Everybody get a chance to check out the museum. There's 34 00:03:01.840 --> 00:03:07.240 nothing like driving into Waterloo from Chicago, Illinois, getting to the Dan Gable 35 00:03:07.360 --> 00:03:13.639 Museum looking at dream Girls right next to it, and being like, which 36 00:03:13.680 --> 00:03:16.879 one should I go to? And for those of you at home listening, 37 00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:28.520 legendarily, there is this unbelievable past of professional and regular wrestling or what should 38 00:03:28.560 --> 00:03:30.360 we call it regular wrestling? I don't even know what to call real wrestling, 39 00:03:30.840 --> 00:03:37.599 regular Greco Roman wrestling. There is just this beautiful like history just sitting 40 00:03:37.639 --> 00:03:42.039 in one building and then to the next building. Is just this legendary strip 41 00:03:42.080 --> 00:03:46.400 club that you know, like Dan Gables, just walking right over every single 42 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:51.840 day. So I thought, like some is it called dream girls? Who 43 00:03:51.840 --> 00:04:00.360 would know? Flirts? Flirts? Legitimately, every man in this room just 44 00:04:00.360 --> 00:04:04.639 looked at me and said, flirts. It's flirts two for one on a 45 00:04:04.719 --> 00:04:10.479 Thursday, it's flirts. Go there, listen. So if I'm flirts on 46 00:04:10.639 --> 00:04:15.080 this weekend, I if I'm a lady there, I'm kind of changing up 47 00:04:15.159 --> 00:04:18.720 my thing and I'm working the gimmick a little, I think, and I 48 00:04:18.879 --> 00:04:24.639 here's some names I came up for some dancers that I think should be at 49 00:04:24.680 --> 00:04:28.240 Flirts just this weekend specifically. You tell me if you if you like them. 50 00:04:28.800 --> 00:04:32.680 My first one, obviously was Thundercock Patterson I thought would be I thought 51 00:04:32.720 --> 00:04:36.759 would be a good one. Also, there's a lady over there dance dancing 52 00:04:36.920 --> 00:04:46.759 is a less snatcher. It's a good one. You're welcome less j B 53 00:04:46.319 --> 00:04:53.000 l O W G O job all right, I was stretching on that one 54 00:04:53.040 --> 00:04:56.639 that's supposed blow job. If for no one got then okay, uh oh 55 00:04:56.759 --> 00:05:01.800 this is okay haw cooch. Oh you guys picked that up better than I 56 00:05:01.839 --> 00:05:12.959 thought you would. Baron, just Baron and of course, uh, probably 57 00:05:12.959 --> 00:05:17.800 the best stripper name that there would be sorry, uh, entertainment enhanced. 58 00:05:18.519 --> 00:05:20.959 I don't want to. I don't want to get canceled for calling someone a 59 00:05:20.959 --> 00:05:26.240 stripper. Sorry, adult entertainer, adult entertainer. I think the best possible 60 00:05:26.319 --> 00:05:35.120 name would be rock Riddle, Rock Riddle. That's just me. Every year 61 00:05:35.160 --> 00:05:40.959 there always seems to be some some news that pops out of this and right 62 00:05:41.000 --> 00:05:44.240 when I got there, they're like, oh, fucking Brisco, what the 63 00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:49.399 fuck and uh so, uh just for everyone at home and everyone. Uh 64 00:05:49.480 --> 00:05:54.000 God, I'm like, I've men, I feel like melts are here. 65 00:05:54.040 --> 00:05:57.600 Breaking the news. Jerry Briscoe was sent to the hospital, but I've been 66 00:05:57.639 --> 00:06:05.680 told that he's okay. I talked to JBL today jblow Job and and he 67 00:06:05.920 --> 00:06:10.040 was like, oh, he's fine. And then he was just like couldn't 68 00:06:10.079 --> 00:06:13.800 stop making jokes about Jerry Briscoe. And I was like, that's kind of 69 00:06:13.839 --> 00:06:18.600 morbid. He's like, ah, fuck him, Fuck Oklahoma. But those 70 00:06:19.360 --> 00:06:21.800 everyone seems to be in good spirits. That's the news. I don't know 71 00:06:21.839 --> 00:06:26.240 if anyone is Is there any other hot goss happening here at the show? 72 00:06:26.319 --> 00:06:30.680 Anyone heard anything good? No. Troy told me he was like, we 73 00:06:30.759 --> 00:06:33.160 gotta get everything in one place. Troy, who helps run IPW and there's 74 00:06:33.160 --> 00:06:36.560 an IPW show. He's like, you know, we gotta get these people 75 00:06:36.600 --> 00:06:41.399 all in one place. It's just like we gotta get them to stop drinking. 76 00:06:42.040 --> 00:06:46.800 So apparently you all are a bunch of fucking alcoholics. Congratulations And then 77 00:06:46.879 --> 00:06:49.879 on a personal note, on a side note, I just walked in here 78 00:06:49.920 --> 00:06:54.839 and I saw Capitol City Kyle and Tim Larson, who did helped with a 79 00:06:54.920 --> 00:06:57.879 news letter, Tim, Great to see you. Tim did the Upper Midwest 80 00:06:57.959 --> 00:07:02.199 News later letter and started in ninety nine, nineteen ninety eight. I started 81 00:07:02.199 --> 00:07:05.240 wrestling in ninety nine, and I was going well, I was going to 82 00:07:05.639 --> 00:07:10.680 Western Michigan University in nineteen eighty eight, and I remember going to the computer 83 00:07:10.920 --> 00:07:14.240 lab, which I don't even know if that's a thing anymore, right, 84 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:19.160 and like looking up the information that Tim would put and then also Al gets 85 00:07:19.319 --> 00:07:24.439 is here who is now selling a book? And he would make this website 86 00:07:24.480 --> 00:07:27.959 called the or he had I think it was WU Wrestling, and he had 87 00:07:28.000 --> 00:07:30.920 the WU Top fifty, which was like the top independent wrestlers. And just 88 00:07:31.040 --> 00:07:36.079 to bump into you guys, Al and Tim and Kyle all within this space 89 00:07:36.240 --> 00:07:40.759 like just brings back so many great memories of being a Midwest wrestler and being 90 00:07:40.759 --> 00:07:44.199 able to like travel the world. And I told Al, like how influential 91 00:07:44.319 --> 00:07:46.920 he was on me just to like see that list of fifty wrestlers and want 92 00:07:46.920 --> 00:07:50.639 to be in it as an independent wrestler. And of course Tim's newsletter was 93 00:07:51.040 --> 00:07:56.000 so influential on all the Midwest wrestlers to like, I think better ourselves to 94 00:07:56.040 --> 00:07:59.160 get in that newsletter to get the praise. It was like the original Twitter 95 00:07:59.240 --> 00:08:03.079 and whatnot. So it really was like that's what Twitter was in nineteen ninety 96 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:05.959 eight. So on that note, I love the all the people here and 97 00:08:07.160 --> 00:08:11.319 all the wrestling like family. And you know, I just newsletter turned Internet 98 00:08:11.399 --> 00:08:15.560 turned whatever is next? I guess podcasting and who knows what's after that. 99 00:08:15.720 --> 00:08:18.560 So I appreciate all you and I love being here. Thanks for being here. 100 00:08:18.600 --> 00:08:28.519 This is amazing. And with that, I think it makes sense to 101 00:08:28.600 --> 00:08:31.639 bring up my first guests, and he's paving his own way here in the 102 00:08:31.679 --> 00:08:35.600 world of the internet. Please welcome to the stage, joining me Conrad THOMPSONID 103 00:08:43.559 --> 00:08:46.120 thanks for having me. Man, my first trip to Waterloo. This is 104 00:08:46.159 --> 00:08:50.360 a pretty cool place, man. Yeah, oh yeah, hey, hey, 105 00:08:50.440 --> 00:08:52.879 it's Conrad Thompson. There it is, and we're here at the Art 106 00:08:52.919 --> 00:08:56.320 of Wrestling, the OG Wrestling Podcast. About that, I think, well, 107 00:08:56.399 --> 00:08:58.799 thank you very much, thanks for joining me. I appreciate and I 108 00:09:00.320 --> 00:09:05.720 did easily think this could just be like a backscratching you know, like you're 109 00:09:05.799 --> 00:09:11.879 great. I'm I'm great. No, I can't say that you're the real 110 00:09:11.960 --> 00:09:13.799 podfather. I mean, you've you've put me over so much, so we 111 00:09:13.840 --> 00:09:16.720 don't need to, you know, to put overs over. It's just I'd 112 00:09:16.759 --> 00:09:20.879 love to talk about the wrestling with you, and um, I guess yeah, 113 00:09:20.960 --> 00:09:22.120 just right away as I was saying that, like I was saying that 114 00:09:22.200 --> 00:09:26.440 I had the wo Top fifty for me, I had the newsletter for me. 115 00:09:26.600 --> 00:09:30.200 I don't know if there was anything that you were, like, you 116 00:09:30.279 --> 00:09:33.039 know, now people are just like sucked to whatever their Twitter is or read 117 00:09:33.120 --> 00:09:35.840 it or whatever it is. I don't know what you were. What were 118 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:41.000 you going for information as a kid or as a teenager in those years that 119 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:43.960 like really defined us as and we're the same age, I think. So 120 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:48.960 it's to forty Club. I subscribe to the Torch on the Observer in ninety 121 00:09:48.000 --> 00:09:52.320 seven and I really didn't know who they were except there were all these news 122 00:09:52.600 --> 00:09:56.480 sites like scoops and all the other stuff that they would credit Dave Meltzer and 123 00:09:56.519 --> 00:10:00.440 Wade Killer, and I had no idea who that was. So I went 124 00:10:00.480 --> 00:10:03.879 and jumped on that, and then of course One Wrestling and that became pw 125 00:10:03.039 --> 00:10:07.240 Insider, and yeah, I got all my stuff originally from the Internet, 126 00:10:07.279 --> 00:10:09.519 and they referred me to the newsletters and just kept up with Dave and these 127 00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:15.159 days of course Sean rell sapp and everybody else. And did you get the 128 00:10:15.360 --> 00:10:16.919 actual newsletters coming to your house? Oh yeah, I got them in the 129 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:20.840 mail every Saturday and it was awesome. Yeah, just like me. You 130 00:10:20.919 --> 00:10:24.879 realize you try to sell them, that they're not worth anything anymore. Well, 131 00:10:24.360 --> 00:10:28.039 I threw them out. I didn't keep them. I wish I would 132 00:10:28.039 --> 00:10:30.919 have kept all my old vhs as though. I got a bunch of college 133 00:10:30.919 --> 00:10:33.080 sey I'm home videos and I was like, nobody's using this. This is 134 00:10:33.080 --> 00:10:35.440 a dead medium. Then I get on eBay and I'm like, oh, 135 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:37.120 man, I threw away a lot of money. Yeah yeah, yeah, 136 00:10:37.240 --> 00:10:41.480 but well, funny you say that because I think, notoriously you're such a 137 00:10:41.559 --> 00:10:46.240 collector. Yeah. Right, But that was my accident, you know. 138 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:48.440 I mean I had stuff as a kid, and then I just said, 139 00:10:48.519 --> 00:10:50.720 you know, I don't really keep up with wrestling anymore. I don't care, 140 00:10:50.799 --> 00:10:52.720 and I let kids have it, or I just dumped it, or 141 00:10:52.799 --> 00:10:56.919 you know, if it was something I recorded, but I just didn't hang 142 00:10:56.960 --> 00:11:00.799 on to it. And then one day I saw a robe Ric Flair robe 143 00:11:00.840 --> 00:11:01.679 on eBay and I was like, man, that'd be like own in one 144 00:11:01.720 --> 00:11:05.000 of Elvis's jumpsuits. That's cool. And so then I thought, all right, 145 00:11:05.039 --> 00:11:07.759 now that I have this, what the hell do I do with it? 146 00:11:07.879 --> 00:11:09.039 Like? How do you display that in your house? Like? What 147 00:11:09.159 --> 00:11:11.919 do he do with it? Once you have it? So I thought, 148 00:11:11.960 --> 00:11:15.320 okay, well maybe I'll do a little display. Okay, I need a 149 00:11:15.399 --> 00:11:18.279 belt. Well, who makes the coolest big gold belt? It was Dave 150 00:11:18.360 --> 00:11:20.320 Milliken at the time, had a really nice one, and I saw that 151 00:11:20.399 --> 00:11:24.240 he had pictures of the old original Ric Flair nameplay from the actual Big Gold 152 00:11:24.279 --> 00:11:26.840 Belt, and I found out who had it and bought it. And then 153 00:11:26.840 --> 00:11:28.440 I was like, well that was kind of easy. I wonder if I 154 00:11:28.519 --> 00:11:31.120 could find the belt, and I did, and it became like this fun 155 00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:35.039 treasure hunt of who has what? And I mean, as I'm sitting here 156 00:11:35.080 --> 00:11:39.279 with you now, I'm working on something, so yeah, it's always fun 157 00:11:39.399 --> 00:11:43.159 to find that next thing. How did you find How did you find that? 158 00:11:43.480 --> 00:11:46.720 You said, I found the name play? Well, yeah, so 159 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:50.399 Dave had a picture of it posted on his website where he sells belts and 160 00:11:50.440 --> 00:11:54.960 stuff, and I said, hey, man, do you have this hypothetically 161 00:11:54.080 --> 00:11:56.240 is that for sale? And he goes, no, my buddy, has 162 00:11:56.279 --> 00:12:00.200 it, and he told me he'd never sell it, so email and I 163 00:12:00.240 --> 00:12:01.840 said, okay, well, hypothetically, if hever changes his mind, I'm 164 00:12:01.879 --> 00:12:05.159 a buyer at blank. Two days later he emailed me back and said, 165 00:12:05.320 --> 00:12:09.360 never is today. Here's his phone number. So I bought the nameplay. 166 00:12:09.360 --> 00:12:11.440 It was five grand. Nice but to me, what a great deal that 167 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:18.320 was to have the actual nameplay from the Big Gold Belt through NWAWCW the WWF 168 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:20.360 five grand, Like, man, that's cool. Like if that was a 169 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:24.279 piece of NFL history, that would have been fifty thousand, but because it 170 00:12:24.320 --> 00:12:26.840 was wrestling history ten years ago, it was five grand. I'm like, 171 00:12:26.879 --> 00:12:28.559 oh, dude, that's home run. I'm in Yeah, have you gone 172 00:12:28.600 --> 00:12:33.000 to the museum. I haven't yet, I'm going tomorrow. Okay, because 173 00:12:33.080 --> 00:12:39.720 there is a Maurice till a Death masks, Bruce has one of those rights. 174 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:41.960 Yes, does he still have it? I think so. It's in 175 00:12:41.080 --> 00:12:43.360 his office. I had heard he's sold it. I don't believe so, 176 00:12:43.519 --> 00:12:46.799 And it's like not my dream to own it, but I feel the same 177 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:50.720 way, like I want to, like, hey, anyone who has it, 178 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:52.639 Like when you're ready to sell it, I'm ready to buy it. 179 00:12:52.879 --> 00:12:54.840 And I feel I don't care what the price would be. I don't know 180 00:12:54.919 --> 00:12:58.960 how to say that. Now, Well you can ask Bruce tomorrow. Okay, 181 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:01.799 it's gonna be here. But his new place in Connecticut, he's got 182 00:13:01.879 --> 00:13:05.399 like a formal office and then like a podcast office. So for years you 183 00:13:05.399 --> 00:13:07.000 could see it in the background when we were doing pods at his old house 184 00:13:07.039 --> 00:13:11.399 in Texas. But like his formal office now sits in there, so he 185 00:13:11.480 --> 00:13:13.240 still got it, which is crazy to me. Well, you let him 186 00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:16.960 know. I'll let him know he's ready, because I think there's only six, 187 00:13:18.080 --> 00:13:20.600 maide I believe. Okay, I didn't know that there's only six in 188 00:13:20.679 --> 00:13:24.240 the world, and we have one here that's all museum, and then I 189 00:13:24.320 --> 00:13:28.120 know Bruce has one, so there's four. And I think out there, 190 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:31.320 well, there's the one guy who's the man I hate that I forgot his 191 00:13:31.440 --> 00:13:35.759 name. Does anyone know the guy who knows everything about Maurice Delay, who's 192 00:13:35.799 --> 00:13:39.399 the French Angel. I think he's come here before, but he's like the 193 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:45.360 utmost knowledgeable human being. And a lot of people think that the character Shrek 194 00:13:45.720 --> 00:13:48.639 was loosely modeled on this guy's wrestling, and I think that's why it would 195 00:13:48.679 --> 00:13:54.000 never lose value and it would only go up. Yes, what are the 196 00:13:54.080 --> 00:13:58.039 what are the things that you seeked out and tried to get and did get? 197 00:13:58.399 --> 00:14:00.919 Besides that, because I feel you have the giant collection, or maybe 198 00:14:00.919 --> 00:14:03.559 I'm incorrect. No, no, yeah, I mean the thing I looked 199 00:14:03.600 --> 00:14:05.440 for forever that no one could find. I was able to collect a bunch 200 00:14:05.480 --> 00:14:09.120 of Rick Flair robes and and I wound up making money on all of them. 201 00:14:09.559 --> 00:14:13.320 But the one I always wanted that I could never find was the butterfly 202 00:14:13.440 --> 00:14:16.440 robe, the one he wore at the ninety two Rumble, so black with 203 00:14:16.559 --> 00:14:20.399 white feathers or whatever and silver butterflies. We couldn't find it at all. 204 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:24.120 And then while WW was in the middle of filming that Most Wanted Treasures thing, 205 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:26.799 a buddy, a collector buddy of mine, said, you won't believe 206 00:14:26.840 --> 00:14:31.080 this. It's sold on eBay in like two hours for a fraction of what 207 00:14:31.159 --> 00:14:33.799 it was actually worth. And I happened to know the buyer, so we 208 00:14:33.879 --> 00:14:37.159 started negotiating and we recreated some of that for A and E. But that 209 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:39.600 was kind of a real story, like I'd been looking for that thing and 210 00:14:39.720 --> 00:14:43.919 calling it out on podcasts forever, and then it just popped up out of 211 00:14:43.960 --> 00:14:48.159 nowhere when you least expected it. Wait, something was recreated, and can 212 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:52.320 you believe it in a reality show? It's not all reality, but I 213 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:54.440 mean the gist of the story was real. I mean I'd been looking for 214 00:14:54.519 --> 00:14:58.399 that thing, you know, at least once a month I'd make a post 215 00:14:58.480 --> 00:15:01.279 or mentioned it on a podcast for eight years, and then it just popped 216 00:15:01.320 --> 00:15:05.440 up out of nowhere. So that was maybe the most rewarding find because I 217 00:15:05.519 --> 00:15:09.879 had actually sought it out for so long. Yeah. Um, as a 218 00:15:09.960 --> 00:15:15.159 huge fan of comedy podcasts, I remember there was a guy named jeff Erlick 219 00:15:15.919 --> 00:15:20.120 who like just saw there was a show that I still listen to. It's 220 00:15:20.120 --> 00:15:22.360 called Comedy Bang Bang. It's been it's been out forever, and he just 221 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:28.240 like saw the potential in it in like twenty ten and was just like he 222 00:15:28.399 --> 00:15:31.039 found angel investors, but like by himself, and he just realized that, 223 00:15:31.159 --> 00:15:33.960 like, there's money in it, there's this is a business model. No 224 00:15:35.000 --> 00:15:37.440 one's really doing it, but I'm going to be early in on it and 225 00:15:37.480 --> 00:15:41.080 I'm going to figure it out. And then they formed Earwolf. Earwolf sold 226 00:15:41.120 --> 00:15:46.879 to Stitcher. Stitcher sold to Sirius, and then a fifty million dollars paycheck 227 00:15:46.000 --> 00:15:50.240 later. You know, like here we are in the world, and I 228 00:15:50.399 --> 00:15:54.679 guess I know you started with Rick Flair as like a total outsider. Yes, 229 00:15:54.799 --> 00:15:58.240 and I'm sure you've talked a lot about about this, but I you 230 00:15:58.279 --> 00:16:00.879 know, you're I think everyone one would have applaud like your business brain of 231 00:16:00.960 --> 00:16:06.120 like what you've created, which is able. Yeah, and like I want 232 00:16:06.159 --> 00:16:07.960 to know, like some people were like, Coult, did you know yours 233 00:16:08.080 --> 00:16:11.159 was going to be like popular? And I was kind of like, yeah, 234 00:16:11.320 --> 00:16:15.080 like they've been doing the style of podcast that I was doing for years 235 00:16:15.120 --> 00:16:18.840 in comedy and it got really popular. Like I saw it there. I 236 00:16:18.919 --> 00:16:22.639 just knew you had to like make it for our people. Did you have 237 00:16:23.440 --> 00:16:26.519 that business mind? Did you see the opening? Did you see like where 238 00:16:26.559 --> 00:16:29.559 you're at? Did you see that opening? Knew you had to put in 239 00:16:29.639 --> 00:16:32.440 some hours but it would get there? Yeah? Absolutely. I mean I 240 00:16:32.519 --> 00:16:33.720 didn't know what I was doing. You know. That was the longest question 241 00:16:33.720 --> 00:16:37.200 of all time, so I appreciate it. I was an accidental podcaster with 242 00:16:37.360 --> 00:16:41.759 Rick. You know, he got a deal with CBS and then asked me 243 00:16:41.840 --> 00:16:44.919 to come in and ask him fan questions on the first episode because he just 244 00:16:44.960 --> 00:16:47.840 thought it would be awkward just him talking to a microphone. He wanted to 245 00:16:47.879 --> 00:16:49.960 do what we're doing, so I said sure, and at the end of 246 00:16:51.000 --> 00:16:52.399 it, the CBS folks said, hey, that was pretty good. Can 247 00:16:52.440 --> 00:16:56.720 you come back next week? So I became an accidental podcaster. And Rick 248 00:16:56.840 --> 00:16:59.919 was old school. He was driving to a radio station in downtown Atlanta, 249 00:17:00.360 --> 00:17:02.960 so i'd make the trip over and we'd knock out, sometimes two in a 250 00:17:03.000 --> 00:17:04.799 week. And it was fun. But as you said, you're not making 251 00:17:04.839 --> 00:17:08.039 any money, you're learning, you're figuring it out. And through doing that, 252 00:17:08.160 --> 00:17:11.799 I realized, just because you know, I want to I want to 253 00:17:11.880 --> 00:17:14.799 business up everything. So I would look at downloads and say, hey, 254 00:17:14.839 --> 00:17:18.400 what's doing better Now. Some people would say, oh, podcasting is fun, 255 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:21.240 and I get that, but I am a sales guy. I want 256 00:17:21.279 --> 00:17:23.079 to grow. I want to do more. So I want to give the 257 00:17:23.200 --> 00:17:26.799 audience. I want to super serve the audience. What are they buying, 258 00:17:26.920 --> 00:17:29.039 what are they not buying? Let's give them more of what they like and 259 00:17:29.160 --> 00:17:32.200 less of what they don't. So we had big time guests on like Dana 260 00:17:32.240 --> 00:17:36.559 White, Nobody listened, Lawrence Taylor, nobody listened. Darius Rucker. Nobody 261 00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:40.359 listened nasty board knobs through the roof. What the hell like that don't make 262 00:17:40.359 --> 00:17:41.640 any sense? So then I was like, Okay, I got it. 263 00:17:41.960 --> 00:17:47.839 But I also noticed wrestling podcasts at the time everyone was doing the interview format, 264 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:52.440 whether it was Jericho or Jr. Or Austin. So when Al Snow 265 00:17:52.519 --> 00:17:56.599 had a new book come out, you know what I mean, obviously everybody 266 00:17:56.799 --> 00:17:59.519 has out one and promote the book. I get that we're all pulling for 267 00:17:59.599 --> 00:18:02.759 out. As a listener, I would be like, I just heard him 268 00:18:02.839 --> 00:18:04.599 last week On the other I don't know, maybe I'll listen to it later. 269 00:18:04.680 --> 00:18:07.400 So it became kind of skippable. So then I thought, all right, 270 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:11.359 as a business, I don't want to have to have the stress of 271 00:18:11.440 --> 00:18:15.119 having fifty two different guests a year. I would rather just be about the 272 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:18.799 show. And I grew up a big Howard Stern fan. And I know 273 00:18:18.920 --> 00:18:22.359 people think he's a great legendary interviewer now, but some of my favorite moments 274 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:25.400 weren't his long form interviews. It was just him busting volves with the rest 275 00:18:25.480 --> 00:18:27.359 of the crew. So I thought, I want more of that. How 276 00:18:27.400 --> 00:18:30.920 do I do that? And it just so happened that I became acquainted with 277 00:18:32.039 --> 00:18:36.400 Bruce and I hired him to help me shoot some commercials and stuff because he's 278 00:18:36.440 --> 00:18:40.200 great at television production. Those campaigns were gangbusters. But at the end of 279 00:18:40.279 --> 00:18:44.559 one long day, we're just sitting in my house edan barbecue, watching TV 280 00:18:44.759 --> 00:18:47.680 and I said, hey, man, what happened when the radicals jumped over 281 00:18:47.839 --> 00:18:51.799 from WCW to the WWF And he adjusted in his seat and he said, 282 00:18:51.799 --> 00:18:53.880 well, And we just talked for an hour back and forth, and at 283 00:18:53.920 --> 00:18:56.039 the end, I go, dude, this is a podcast we should have 284 00:18:56.039 --> 00:19:00.799 recorded that. There's nothing out there like that. That's sort of how the 285 00:19:00.039 --> 00:19:03.400 Conrad format. I don't call it that, but others online do. Was 286 00:19:03.480 --> 00:19:07.559 born is just one topic in long form? He produced your mortgage commercials? 287 00:19:07.720 --> 00:19:11.920 Yeah, absolutely, absolutely else was he doing because he was out of the 288 00:19:12.440 --> 00:19:18.880 when I'm at Bruce he had he was managing an attorney's office. A friend 289 00:19:18.319 --> 00:19:22.359 you've probably if you were an OG something the wrestle listener. You heard the 290 00:19:22.480 --> 00:19:26.799 Rob Taylor Mesothelioma commercials. That was the guy that Bruce used to work for 291 00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:30.279 and managed his office. And you know he I met him and I knew 292 00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:33.799 he had a TV background. I was trying to come up with a fun 293 00:19:33.160 --> 00:19:37.279 idea and I had the ideas, but I didn't know how to produce it. 294 00:19:37.319 --> 00:19:40.319 I didn't know how to shoot it. I didn't know how to get 295 00:19:40.400 --> 00:19:44.519 my vision on video. Bruce could do it, so he flew into Huntsville. 296 00:19:44.640 --> 00:19:47.039 We did a shoot in Huntsville, did one in Nashville, did one 297 00:19:47.039 --> 00:19:49.160 in Chattanooga. They were home runs, and I was like, Okay, 298 00:19:49.240 --> 00:19:52.319 this is a thing. We're going to do more of this. And so 299 00:19:52.440 --> 00:19:53.799 he would come in like once a month and we'd shoot something else, but 300 00:19:53.880 --> 00:19:56.400 in the evening time he would just tell wrestling stories. I was like, 301 00:19:56.480 --> 00:20:00.119 we gotta start recording these and let people hear this. And he became a 302 00:20:00.279 --> 00:20:04.599 reluctant accidental podcast or nice Yeah. So again we're the same age. So 303 00:20:04.759 --> 00:20:11.720 like when whatever, when a name pops up, like and I was just 304 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:14.000 listening to Power and Glory today for some reason, I don't know why I 305 00:20:14.079 --> 00:20:15.599 showed up in my YouTube, you know, like I think I was like, 306 00:20:15.759 --> 00:20:18.079 Oh, how do they debut? I'd like to know. And then 307 00:20:18.160 --> 00:20:22.759 the next recommended was Bruce shooting on Power and Glory, and I was like, 308 00:20:22.759 --> 00:20:23.960 oh, I would like to hear, you know, like, so 309 00:20:25.319 --> 00:20:29.039 I loved that information, and then you get to ask all the questions that 310 00:20:29.079 --> 00:20:30.359 you always wanted to know the answer yes, because he was right there. 311 00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:33.720 So you're just they're the same as the listener. Was there any anything that 312 00:20:33.880 --> 00:20:37.279 you wanted to get out of him that you like, he won't talk to 313 00:20:37.359 --> 00:20:41.680 you on our information And I'm not saying to give me any answer, you 314 00:20:41.720 --> 00:20:44.000 know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, well it's almost a joke at 315 00:20:44.039 --> 00:20:48.720 this point. But he will not reveal the magic behind a buried alive match. 316 00:20:48.200 --> 00:20:51.680 Okay, but I mean NBC did it so we could see it, 317 00:20:51.799 --> 00:20:53.720 but just tell us how you guys did it, And he just won't. 318 00:20:53.960 --> 00:20:57.319 He won't reveal that, which I think is a little silly, like of 319 00:20:57.440 --> 00:21:00.720 all the things that we're willing to tell all the truth on this one off, 320 00:21:00.799 --> 00:21:04.039 stupid gimmick match we won't talk about, but he won't do it. 321 00:21:04.640 --> 00:21:07.680 And then I was going to say, what are your thoughts or what have 322 00:21:07.759 --> 00:21:11.920 you learned about the idea of the kind red format or you know, the 323 00:21:11.119 --> 00:21:14.599 idea of like, hey, we can't depend on guests the whole time, 324 00:21:15.200 --> 00:21:19.279 and can that go for ten years? Have you what have you learned, 325 00:21:19.319 --> 00:21:23.279 what have you started implementing into your shows, and what do you think, 326 00:21:23.440 --> 00:21:26.680 Like are some moves that you might have that you are thinking about or want 327 00:21:26.720 --> 00:21:30.160 to move towards in the future. I gets I don't know what to sustain, 328 00:21:30.279 --> 00:21:33.000 but to you know, to keep this thing rocking and rolling. Yeah, 329 00:21:33.000 --> 00:21:36.440 I mean, I think the way people consume media is different, so 330 00:21:36.519 --> 00:21:40.200 we've certainly started to do more video, but I think the short form video 331 00:21:40.319 --> 00:21:42.559 is the next thing, you know, not just TikTok, but like Instagram 332 00:21:42.680 --> 00:21:48.119 reels and YouTube shorts and all that. I think those little data points that's 333 00:21:48.160 --> 00:21:52.039 where the long term money is probably going to be. And a lot of 334 00:21:52.119 --> 00:21:55.240 channels have already figured that out, where we could do one long form thing, 335 00:21:55.319 --> 00:21:57.200 then we can do a series of five and seven minute clips. Then 336 00:21:57.279 --> 00:22:00.720 we can do some that are one to two minutes them he can do something 337 00:22:00.759 --> 00:22:03.519 that are fifteen to thirty seconds. But I think the short form video is 338 00:22:03.920 --> 00:22:08.400 really the growth opportunity for wrestling as a whole. Like, like, my 339 00:22:08.559 --> 00:22:11.440 mom went to Ric Flair's last match last year. It's the first time she's 340 00:22:11.440 --> 00:22:15.119 been to a wrestling match in forty years, and when she was done, 341 00:22:15.359 --> 00:22:18.880 she said son. Then boys in them masks. She had never seen lucha 342 00:22:18.960 --> 00:22:22.960 libre before, so all the acrobatic stuff she had never seen and thought that 343 00:22:22.079 --> 00:22:26.839 was amazing. Well, my mom sits at home and consumes Facebook and TikTok 344 00:22:26.920 --> 00:22:29.960 videos all day long, but she's not gonna sit down and watch a Lucha 345 00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:32.799 libre match. But if she saw a clip of that man, she'd be 346 00:22:32.839 --> 00:22:34.200 all in and then she might go buy the mask, and she did. 347 00:22:34.359 --> 00:22:38.079 She has a pent A mask in her office now because she loved that match. 348 00:22:38.480 --> 00:22:41.720 He wasn't in the match, but that didn't matter. She thought the 349 00:22:41.759 --> 00:22:45.119 mask looked cool. Also the sensual way you're like about your mom and then 350 00:22:45.200 --> 00:22:47.920 boys in the match, well she's like, I've never seen anything like that 351 00:22:48.119 --> 00:22:51.119 before, Like, how did they do that? It's like cert to Sleigh 352 00:22:51.200 --> 00:22:55.279 for her. She grew up on continental wrestling, you know, so it's 353 00:22:55.279 --> 00:22:59.240 a little different what the Fullers were doing and what the Lucha bros Are doing. 354 00:22:59.799 --> 00:23:02.759 That's so she was really enamored with that, and I think that's probably 355 00:23:02.799 --> 00:23:07.440 the growth opportunity is to get non fans and kids and younger folks to watch 356 00:23:07.559 --> 00:23:10.920 is the short form. So I think we'll probably start doing more short form 357 00:23:11.039 --> 00:23:14.920 video and then you say we and this is my biggest mistake that I regret 358 00:23:15.160 --> 00:23:18.720 is I was my own machine and sometimes it just gets too much. And 359 00:23:18.839 --> 00:23:22.799 so when you say, I know, but I'm looking for you to answer, 360 00:23:22.960 --> 00:23:26.039 is a team? You build a team? Right? Yeah? I 361 00:23:26.119 --> 00:23:29.920 mean, I don't know how many folks, maybe thirty ish people work on 362 00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:32.599 our podcast. It's a lot. It is a lot, but you know, 363 00:23:32.599 --> 00:23:34.279 I mean, we've got to have people who who edit video, and 364 00:23:34.359 --> 00:23:37.200 we got to have people who can do the audio, and we've gotta have 365 00:23:37.240 --> 00:23:41.599 people who can research, and people who do social and people who sell ads 366 00:23:41.680 --> 00:23:45.200 and that we have the whole starcast thing. So yeah, twenty four thirty 367 00:23:45.319 --> 00:23:49.440 ish people. But when you're doing mortgages, you already did you already have 368 00:23:49.920 --> 00:23:56.319 a team in your pre wrestling business life, oh, in the mortgage side. 369 00:23:56.400 --> 00:23:59.119 Yeah? Oh yeah, Yeah, we've been rocking a big team since 370 00:23:59.440 --> 00:24:03.519 oh nine. And you did you go to school for business or anything? 371 00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:07.960 Yeah? So I got a scholarship when I was a sophomore in high school 372 00:24:07.119 --> 00:24:11.359 for our local community college. But it was like all your books in tuition 373 00:24:11.480 --> 00:24:15.079 and everything. So it was like, Okay, that's what I want to 374 00:24:15.119 --> 00:24:17.960 do because I knew I wanted to be in sales like my family had enjoyed 375 00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:19.880 success in their life through sales, so I knew that's what I wanted to 376 00:24:19.960 --> 00:24:25.799 do. And so my second year I was starting my sophomore year. My 377 00:24:26.160 --> 00:24:29.279 business teacher, Van Scott, who I had to have a ton of classes 378 00:24:29.319 --> 00:24:33.160 with my freshman year too, said hey, some of you in this room, 379 00:24:33.680 --> 00:24:36.079 if you keep your head down and you keep your nose clean, in 380 00:24:36.240 --> 00:24:37.960 five years, some of you could make up to thirty five thousand dollars a 381 00:24:38.079 --> 00:24:42.680 year. And it was September and I looked at my year to day pastub 382 00:24:42.720 --> 00:24:47.079 in my book bag and I'd already made over sixty grand. So I waited 383 00:24:47.119 --> 00:24:48.240 untill everybody left, and I go up and I said, hey, man, 384 00:24:48.279 --> 00:24:51.440 I think I'm done. He goes, are you dropping this class? 385 00:24:51.480 --> 00:24:53.279 I said no, I think I'm quit in school. And he said why, 386 00:24:53.359 --> 00:24:56.359 and I handed him my pasttub and he says, son, you make 387 00:24:56.440 --> 00:25:00.039 more than me. Where are you here? So I was it. I 388 00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:02.680 never went back to school. I quit. I've been full time selling ever 389 00:25:02.799 --> 00:25:07.799 since. That was September of two thousand and then in August of oh one, 390 00:25:07.839 --> 00:25:11.200 I found the mortgage business, and it was the best thing that ever 391 00:25:11.279 --> 00:25:15.839 happened to me professionally for sure. What about podcasts, well, listen, 392 00:25:15.720 --> 00:25:18.880 I appreciate that. But as you know, the whole reason I got into 393 00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:23.359 podcasting was because I was spending a ton of cash advertising my mortgage company. 394 00:25:23.599 --> 00:25:27.000 So now it was like, as I'm driving to Atlanta to record with Rick, 395 00:25:27.039 --> 00:25:30.640 I'm like, people all over the world are hearing for this, and 396 00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:33.960 I'm not having to pay for it. I should just start mentioning the mortgage 397 00:25:33.000 --> 00:25:36.599 company. And at the time, we were only in like six states, 398 00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:40.839 where we're in forty six states now and we wouldn't have expanded all that licensing 399 00:25:40.920 --> 00:25:45.880 if it wouldn't have been for a now unpaid global advertising campaign. So it 400 00:25:45.039 --> 00:25:48.279 was an accident, but it was a good one, a good accident. 401 00:25:48.640 --> 00:25:52.119 Ad free shows dot com is the way that everybody gets to everything. Yeah, 402 00:25:52.160 --> 00:25:55.359 absolutely, or just hit me up on Twitter and I'll probably tweet about 403 00:25:55.359 --> 00:25:57.079 it. Hey, Hey it's Conrad. There you go, Conrad Thompson. 404 00:25:57.160 --> 00:26:11.559 Ever, thanks to everybody, Thank you all rights, please welcome my next 405 00:26:11.599 --> 00:26:27.240 guest, pro wrestling legend that Tommy rich Wildfi's that body doing. More more 406 00:26:27.279 --> 00:26:30.759 importantly, how are you doing up an old man? I'm doing good. 407 00:26:32.279 --> 00:26:34.960 Are you an old man? Your hair looks spectacular today as an old man. 408 00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:40.160 You're looking good, Tommy, I feel good. Where are you living 409 00:26:40.200 --> 00:26:44.279 these days? Myrtle Beach. That's the fucking place to live. Let's have 410 00:26:44.400 --> 00:26:47.559 some good medicine there. What what made you? You're not? Are you 411 00:26:47.720 --> 00:26:49.240 not? Are you a Myrtle Beach man? Through and through? From Where 412 00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:52.960 were you born? I was born in Nashville, and then of course had 413 00:26:53.000 --> 00:26:57.759 to run in Atlanta, lived there about thirty years, and uh went dawn. 414 00:26:57.880 --> 00:27:00.799 The Myrtle Beach friend lives there and he had a condo there, and 415 00:27:02.319 --> 00:27:06.599 we went down state a few times. And my wife mother lives in Charleston, 416 00:27:06.759 --> 00:27:10.759 so we just said it puts her close to her, far enough away, 417 00:27:10.839 --> 00:27:12.880 but close enough she can go visit. Yeah. I feel like when 418 00:27:12.920 --> 00:27:17.039 you hear stories about wrestlers, they're like, oh, I would travel to 419 00:27:17.119 --> 00:27:19.279 Hawaii and then you know, go to Japan, and then it's just like, 420 00:27:19.319 --> 00:27:22.880 why aren't I living in Hawaii? And they do. So I feel 421 00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:26.319 that's like, oh, maybe you were a Myrtle Beach man. Was there 422 00:27:26.359 --> 00:27:30.519 a Myrtle Beach wrestling scene? Well? I had the guy that had to 423 00:27:30.599 --> 00:27:33.920 condo. I hope to wrastling school up there for about a year, and 424 00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:38.039 of course that was a tourist town and it didn't work out. We went 425 00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:42.160 home and they had condo opened up, and I enjoyed my time down there. 426 00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:45.799 We had a house down there. But uh, we're pretty close to 427 00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:49.200 the beach. But when you were I mean traveling the territories, was there 428 00:27:49.240 --> 00:27:53.839 ever like Wednesday nights in Myrtle Beach? Oh no, no, I've never 429 00:27:55.160 --> 00:27:57.200 never been. As a matter of fact, never rastled in Myrtle Beach too 430 00:27:57.319 --> 00:28:00.359 much. I rastled a couple of times there for rocket. Uh. But 431 00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:04.119 like I said, my wife was from there, I mean Charleston said. 432 00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:08.279 It was a good connection for her. And uh we bought a conduct Uh 433 00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:14.920 COVID hit. We bought it and and uh anyway, COVID hit and the 434 00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:18.240 plan was to move there later. But anyway, so we sold the house 435 00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:22.240 in Atlanta and moved to Myrtle Beach. All right, well, uh, 436 00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:25.200 you're doing great. It looks like you're doing great. Let's talk a little 437 00:28:25.279 --> 00:28:30.279 wrestling, Yes, sir um, how you liking Do you like wrestling? 438 00:28:32.720 --> 00:28:34.839 I still love it today. Brother, Now I've been so blessed man. 439 00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:41.079 Uh you know, shoot, I started in nineteen seventy five and and God's 440 00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:45.640 good man, you know, he's uh put me in some of the greatest 441 00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:48.319 angles it's ever been done. You know, very blessed with that, and 442 00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:52.000 uh, shoot, I still love it. I still love coming to see 443 00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:55.920 the fans and stuff. I mean, you know, you had a lot 444 00:28:56.000 --> 00:29:00.720 of success very early in your career. Like were they were they there to 445 00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:03.799 help you or did you did you see a lot of like people like hindering 446 00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:07.680 the idea that here's a young guy getting pushed. No, sir, no, 447 00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:12.839 not a bit. I helped her body. I h superstar Bill Edy. 448 00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:18.480 Uh she Baron von RASKI said, I mean less stature. I mean 449 00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:22.440 I got and back back when I started. Man, it didn't matter if 450 00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:26.319 you was a main event or I was the main event. As long as 451 00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:27.880 we put asses in the seat. We knew he was gonna get paid, 452 00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:32.200 you know, and you had to put ashes in the seat, you know. 453 00:29:32.359 --> 00:29:34.599 Said it was different, but uh, like I said, kemp tear 454 00:29:34.759 --> 00:29:38.279 and just guys like that, they could I eat my lunch? Uh? 455 00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:42.759 They took me, putting me under their wing and never looked back. I 456 00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:47.039 mean, it's it's kind of like dancing, and I got to dance with 457 00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:49.319 the best dancers. You know, all the rest of us will always say 458 00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:52.599 they got like tested in a way, uh, you know, to see 459 00:29:52.599 --> 00:29:56.799 if these guys can this guy can hang, if he's ready for a big 460 00:29:56.880 --> 00:30:00.720 push. Did you ever have a tester or anyone kind of rough you up 461 00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:02.720 a little bit, just kind of to know that you're ready to go? 462 00:30:03.640 --> 00:30:06.839 Now, when I first started, of course, it's you know, back 463 00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:08.880 then it was you know, I mean, guys like lessay, it's pretty 464 00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:12.599 stiff anyway, you know, I mean, it just it was a solid 465 00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:15.119 you know. I mean, I'm not saying they ain't stiff today because I 466 00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:18.960 don't know. I don't wrestle in the day's world. But back there, 467 00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:22.319 I mean, but it was just business. I mean, you know, 468 00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:25.440 it's kind of like a magic trick. Back then. You want to if 469 00:30:25.480 --> 00:30:27.839 people didn't believe, they wouldn't buy a ticket to come see it. They 470 00:30:27.960 --> 00:30:30.440 believed, you know. I mean, it's kind of like a magic trick. 471 00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:33.799 You go see a magic trick one hundred times, want you to know 472 00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:37.960 how they do it? Then it ain't quite as good, you know, 473 00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:41.680 I mean, and That's that's the ear I come from. That's uh, 474 00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:44.480 you know, I mean the Funx, the brisk Goes. You know. 475 00:30:44.519 --> 00:30:47.640 I watched them, of course in Tennessee where I used to go, the 476 00:30:47.839 --> 00:30:53.160 Fargoes, Jackie Fargo. I'm Charlotte Roughhouse Fargo. He had papers Jackie bring 477 00:30:53.240 --> 00:30:57.440 him in watching twice a year out of the nuthouse. But people eat it 478 00:30:57.559 --> 00:31:03.079 up, you know when you were in Memphis. Yeah, like what was 479 00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:07.720 your loops like in Memphis? She would do Memphis on Monday night. Tuesday 480 00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:12.240 be Louisville, Kentucky. Wednesday would be h Evansville, Indiana. Then Thursday 481 00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:15.279 would be a spot show. Friday he would be a spot show that Sarah 482 00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:19.200 do you do Memphis TV? Then go to Jonesboro, Arkansas. And then 483 00:31:19.240 --> 00:31:22.480 we had Sunday off back then. Of course they learned Sunday is a good 484 00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:26.720 day too now, so then he's working seventeen times a week, you know. 485 00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:29.920 So but it's uh, you know, and you had to put the 486 00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:33.039 asses in them seats every week, you know. I mean we was in 487 00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:36.640 the same town week after week, and and you didn't you don't get you 488 00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:40.440 didn't get no time off. I mean we ran fifty two weeks a year, 489 00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:44.160 and that's correct me. If I'm wrong, is that Jerry Jared and 490 00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:47.440 Lawlor they switching the book? Is that? Yeah? That was Jerry. 491 00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:51.359 Of course, Jerry jareds one to give me the opportunity. He used to 492 00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:56.880 come watch me play football. I knew Eddie Marland. He Jerry jarried married 493 00:31:56.960 --> 00:32:00.480 Eddie Marlin's daughter, And so I got into it that way and then told 494 00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:02.480 yo, y'allamoto and like I said, Jackie Fargn help me a lot, 495 00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:07.359 and and just uh, just very blessed. I made it. Just all 496 00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:12.440 the guys and and infest the wrestling fans I made they took a liking to 497 00:32:12.599 --> 00:32:15.640 me, and all the guys did too. I meane, like I said, 498 00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:17.599 if we was drawing money by everybody was happy. Yeah. And you 499 00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:21.839 said like, hey, this is only successful if we were making money and 500 00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:23.839 putting asses in seats. So if you like, how does it work for 501 00:32:23.880 --> 00:32:30.039 you at that time? Are you like pitching ideas or are you getting ideas 502 00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:31.559 just told to you and you'll do them the best that you can, Like, 503 00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:35.680 if you had something creative in your mind, are you going to somebody? 504 00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:37.319 Are you going, oh yeah, holy holy, I talked to Holy 505 00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:40.839 or um. You know, but back then I made Holy was a great 506 00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:44.599 book. Or you know. I didn't like him very much, but he 507 00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:51.559 was a good business way. Somebody didn't like Holy Anderson, but you know 508 00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:54.279 I made it just uh. And I got a good break in Tennessee and 509 00:32:54.319 --> 00:32:58.960 I learned there. I stayed in Tennessee for about two years and then got 510 00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:04.000 the opportunity to go to Atlanta. And in the first night that I was 511 00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:08.079 there, my drawl Jerry. Jerry tell me said, kid, if you 512 00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:10.559 get down there and don't like it, he said, call me because he's 513 00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:14.359 one that got me booked down there. I said, guest, sir, 514 00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:17.640 And uh so I got down there. It's Friday night at the Atlanta City 515 00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:22.640 Auditorium. I had me a long road made. I thought, I just 516 00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:25.920 cool, my mom, come down, my little brother. And uh after 517 00:33:27.079 --> 00:33:30.000 WI beat my ass and busting my head in thirty seconds, Tony Adlers saved 518 00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:34.079 me. I thought, damn, I might need to call Jerry Jerry, 519 00:33:34.680 --> 00:33:37.279 but I sucked it up state and uh, you know the rest is history 520 00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:40.759 will tell me the process of going from Tennessee to Georgia. So you said, 521 00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:45.039 Jerry got you there? Uh, so what does that mean. Does 522 00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:47.279 that mean that he's like, I think you'll do better down there, or 523 00:33:47.319 --> 00:33:50.440 I need you to go. No, I just it was time for a 524 00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:53.400 challenge. I just you know, um, you're just time for me to 525 00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:57.680 go somewhere, and you're okay being like, yep, I'll just move somewhere 526 00:33:57.680 --> 00:34:01.160 else. Well I was was eighteen, Well by that time, I was 527 00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:05.839 about nineteen. But you know, what's the nineteen year old, you know, 528 00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:07.519 grown up person, you know, I mean it, And but that's 529 00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:10.679 business. That's the way the business was help I mean in wa it was 530 00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:14.679 all over the country. It wasn't just one person running it. I mean 531 00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:19.079 everybody there was a different territories. You had Geigole, Kansas City. I 532 00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:22.800 mean, you had Eddie Graham down in Florida, upon Eric's in Texas. 533 00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:25.880 I mean, so there was somewhere for everybody to go, you know. 534 00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:30.880 I mean you'd learned, you'd say, I learned so much here in Tennessee, 535 00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:34.840 and then I got the opportunity. If I hadn't made it in Tennessee, 536 00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:37.920 then I ever went to Florida. You know. And as long as 537 00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:42.400 you got better at each one, didn't they passed the word down the line. 538 00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:45.119 Hey, this kid's got potential, you know. So so I was 539 00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:50.360 very blessed man in seventeen. They had seemed a little young, corn bread, 540 00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:52.800 skinny kid and they looking to big monsters and stuff. And I come 541 00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:55.599 in there and and Jerry, Jerry, one thing he taught me was how 542 00:34:55.679 --> 00:35:00.400 to sell, and uh, I'd get my asswood, but I I wouldn't 543 00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:04.159 give up. And uh and so it just you know, it wasn't very 544 00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:07.239 good. Then you sing going to different places kind of got me thinking. 545 00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:10.719 I was just curious of like, um, kind of like the I don't 546 00:35:10.719 --> 00:35:15.960 know if there's like the weirdest places or have you been to obscure countries or 547 00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:20.159 obscure weird places that resident took you? No, I I was pretty much 548 00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:22.360 stay at home. I wanted Japan, that's about. I'm gonna did a 549 00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:24.760 few trips over there. And uh, of course, first what time I 550 00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:30.320 went, that's back. They didn't have nothing but to Shakey's Pizza and Tokyo 551 00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:34.239 and uh, you went outside of town, there wasn't nothing there. And 552 00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:37.960 I was there for six weeks and there was four guys. I mean, 553 00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:42.199 you know, for a tiger jett sing and I didn't know none of them, 554 00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:45.320 So I pretty much for six weeks, I called my wife cry and 555 00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:47.440 said I want to come home. And you know, I got through that 556 00:35:47.559 --> 00:35:51.800 third third week, it's really bad, and then you hit the fourth week, 557 00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:54.440 you still want to go home, and then back by that fifth week, 558 00:35:54.519 --> 00:35:58.599 you know, you fix and makeup money, so then then it's then 559 00:35:58.679 --> 00:36:01.480 it's okay, you know, but it wouldn't mind, you know it h 560 00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:04.719 and slide. I wish I'd won a bunch more, and I did, 561 00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:07.199 but you know, it is what it is. Yeah. I remember I 562 00:36:07.239 --> 00:36:09.280 did my first tour of Japan in two thousand and five and all I had 563 00:36:09.400 --> 00:36:13.800 was like a DVD player and there was an internet cafe, and I remember 564 00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:17.119 being like, this is so crazy, how boring this is? Like in 565 00:36:17.199 --> 00:36:21.960 twenty nineteen when I was doing tours and look watching movies on my phone, 566 00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:24.880 but I wouldn't think back to like the eighties and the nineties of like what 567 00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:30.280 did these guys do? There was right in a foreign land, and you 568 00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:31.199 know a lot of the answer was and I you know, I'm not saying 569 00:36:31.199 --> 00:36:34.440 this is you, but a lot of them they were like, well that's 570 00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:38.000 why they all just partied all nights and then woke up and got to the 571 00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:40.519 gym and then by the time they were done, they were ready for the 572 00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:45.440 show and they just rinse. That's pretty much. Yet you'd go out, 573 00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:51.119 which I like that going out part. Yeah, still even before an old 574 00:36:51.199 --> 00:36:55.039 man, I still like to go out. So my memories of you are 575 00:36:55.480 --> 00:37:02.280 WCW. Thomas Rich that's my memories and ECW with the full blooded Italians. 576 00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:06.159 You know, first, that's probably one of my best times. I may 577 00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:08.519 had had fun with it, you know what I'm saying. That was you 578 00:37:08.679 --> 00:37:12.719 know, no pressure, just get out, go do your thing, and 579 00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:15.800 which was Thomas Rich. No, no, no, that was the big 580 00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:23.199 die. So who fitched you the FBI idea? And um and did you 581 00:37:23.320 --> 00:37:25.719 were I had imagine you were like, yeah, I'm down for anything. 582 00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:30.280 But I don't know if you saw anything weird about it at first. Well, 583 00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:34.119 my first question was just the bunny the same, right, and they 584 00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:36.480 said yeah. I said, I don't have problem with it at all. 585 00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:38.599 You know. That was you know, I mean, we did some six 586 00:37:38.679 --> 00:37:42.960 mans and stuff, but uh, it was just it was fun. A 587 00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:46.480 great bunch of guys there, I thought. But I was first I was 588 00:37:46.599 --> 00:37:50.559 really glad because I'd see him. You know, if you're in a fight 589 00:37:50.719 --> 00:37:53.320 somebody throws a chair at you, you're gonna blow yards. They stand there 590 00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:57.039 and just blow up and you don't break it to you know, off a 591 00:37:57.239 --> 00:38:00.559 damn make some bad ass boys right there. But uh, it was it 592 00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:04.719 was good. I mean I had a two year run there, so it 593 00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:08.079 was all good. Did you feel like a because they were like the rebels 594 00:38:08.119 --> 00:38:10.559 of wrestling at the time, did you feel like a kinship like, oh 595 00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:14.280 this was me when I was a kid. Oh yeah, oh yeah, 596 00:38:14.320 --> 00:38:16.800 I fit right in, right, fit right in, wonderful. And then 597 00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:21.519 WCW was just I mean, who was who did you go? Were you 598 00:38:21.559 --> 00:38:25.519 there through all the weird changes and regimens? Well, I didn't know they 599 00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:30.480 was selling the business at the time, and U Jim Crock had come in 600 00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:32.920 and he said, some of you have a job someone I just bought it 601 00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:37.519 and I had a bunch of friends you know that worked there. So we 602 00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:40.000 got off and then he told me a thund about Patterson. Everybody else was 603 00:38:40.039 --> 00:38:44.480 flying up on the plane. He told me a thunderboat drive. I don't 604 00:38:44.519 --> 00:38:47.280 think thunderboat win, and I know I didn't go. So we both missed 605 00:38:47.320 --> 00:38:52.000 TV and we both was fired. So anyway, he is what it is 606 00:38:52.400 --> 00:39:00.480 right there and then and then as the career wound down, were you okay 607 00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:04.199 with that at the time as you stopped kind of wrestling? Uh? Do 608 00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:07.440 you feel like? Help me explain how I, as a forty three year 609 00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:10.239 old man, can get used to the idea of like wrestling is gonna go 610 00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:13.960 away from me and pretty soon, you know, I don't know, I'm 611 00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:19.119 wrestling tonight. Oh you are? I still but I still love it. 612 00:39:19.199 --> 00:39:22.519 I mean, lord knows, I can't do what I did back to them, 613 00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:23.880 but I still love it and I love it, you know, just 614 00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:28.639 going and socializing with the fans too. I still love that. So it's 615 00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:31.119 been a good ride for me. Man. So the retirement, the o 616 00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:36.920 woult of ring retirement wasn't that hard. Just no, I enjoyed this like 617 00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:39.159 like this, it's a big thing. So you know, like I said, 618 00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:42.480 I can't do much, but I like to get in there and still 619 00:39:42.519 --> 00:39:45.960 try to entertain. Hell. Yeah, now I'll ask do you have any 620 00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:52.880 plugs? You're easy points to it. I'm assuming you're not at the internet. 621 00:39:53.039 --> 00:39:57.199 Happy man. No, No, my wife does all that all right. 622 00:39:58.519 --> 00:40:01.679 Just Hey, the main lug is and What keeps us thriving is all 623 00:40:01.719 --> 00:40:06.239 these folks out of here, man, and God bless every one of them. 624 00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:09.119 That's it. That's that's that's my thing, man, God bless him. 625 00:40:09.199 --> 00:40:23.360 Time to rich everybody hand all right, please welcome to the stage. 626 00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:37.000 My next guests. Let's stature the Hall of Fame. Yeah, it took 627 00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:42.280 me sixty three years to good here. It's been a long uphill true. 628 00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:45.280 Well, great to see you, thanks for coming. Are you uh still 629 00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:49.840 in Ohio? Man? Well, I'm living in Knoxville, Tennessee right now. 630 00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:52.639 You have left Ohio? Well I just kicked it. No, yeah, 631 00:40:53.159 --> 00:40:57.239 yeah, Well, you know a family that's home, you know, 632 00:40:57.360 --> 00:41:00.760 grew up there, but all my family moved on. My daughter and her 633 00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:06.159 husband have a farm about an hour and a half north of Columbus, Ohio. 634 00:41:06.519 --> 00:41:10.639 And I'm not a farmer. My son and my grandson are in Knoxville, 635 00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:17.000 and he runs two lots that so storage buildings in cardboards. So I 636 00:41:17.079 --> 00:41:22.480 thought I'd rather sell carpords and storage buildings in farm. Plus, I had 637 00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:27.199 a history in Knoxville. We we had a hell of a run in Knoxville 638 00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:30.840 from the late sixties right into the early eighties. Are you waiting. Are 639 00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:37.000 you still selling? What are you still working? Not unlike Tommy, I 640 00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:42.519 am not on the car tonight. No, no cardboard like well I would, 641 00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:45.199 I would rather be doing something in this business. But yeah, just 642 00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:50.920 I can still train. I'm taking any bumps or anything but helping my son 643 00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:54.760 out, you know. And actually all the years in the business, I 644 00:41:54.880 --> 00:42:00.239 was just having fun. Right now I'm working. It's a real job. 645 00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:02.920 Nine was going to say, you've been in the wrestling industry for so long 646 00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:08.119 making a business, getting by one thing I've always been just uh, I 647 00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:13.719 thought so highly and like akin to me is uh, you're a hustler, 648 00:42:13.920 --> 00:42:16.280 right, would it self? Admittedly I would admit that, Yes, I'm 649 00:42:16.320 --> 00:42:20.039 trying all the time. We are you talking about the length of my career 650 00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:24.719 As of this past July the fourth was the sixty third anniversary of my first 651 00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:30.639 match in Blue Hills, made in nineteen sixty amazing, it amazes me, 652 00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:37.320 probably worn it, but I'm gonna like, I'm gonna get back to my 653 00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:43.119 hustler point. Um, okay, well it's just like from what so when 654 00:42:43.159 --> 00:42:45.199 I started in wrestling in nineteen ninety nine, you know, like I would, 655 00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:49.039 you were always doing something. It was always like when I started, 656 00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:52.599 of course, the legendary MTV show, so I knew you were at HWA 657 00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:55.320 and then you moved on to something else, and you always had something going. 658 00:42:55.840 --> 00:43:00.679 But I from knowing you and talking other people, like, I feel 659 00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:05.599 like even in like the seventies, and I think someone told me about like 660 00:43:05.639 --> 00:43:07.760 a T shirt thing, you had going, Like you you always had some 661 00:43:08.039 --> 00:43:12.440 kind of side wrestling hustle plan, which I always appreciate you no, and 662 00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:15.519 it never had any of its plan, to be quite honest, it was 663 00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:20.000 just the opportunity presented itself, right, But your brain said, like, 664 00:43:20.199 --> 00:43:22.960 I'm going to take advantage of this op try to anyway. Yeah, I'm 665 00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:25.880 not saying I'm gonna make this work, but let's see if we can. 666 00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:30.639 You know. But the T shirt thing, Jack and Jerry Briscoe and I 667 00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:34.840 were sitting around drinking a beer, just talking about life in general and Jerry's 668 00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:37.519 apartment in Charlotte, right, and as you know, the T shirt thing. 669 00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:42.360 I got crazy with bands and everything back into sixties, and I'm thinking 670 00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:46.360 in nineteen seventy two, hey, maybe maybe faces right, it's still cafe, 671 00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:51.000 but maybe faces should be able sl T shirts. So I had mentioned 672 00:43:51.039 --> 00:43:53.119 this to a couple of promoters about, hey, this might be an avenue 673 00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:55.880 to pursue, and they never said it. They thought it was bad. 674 00:43:55.960 --> 00:44:00.760 They just weren't interested, right, So I was kind of venting that frustration 675 00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:02.679 to Jack and Jerry, and Jack said, well, let's do it. 676 00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:06.119 What do you mean, well, the three of us, we all three 677 00:44:06.239 --> 00:44:08.360 throw in a third of the money and we'll try it. Okay, so 678 00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:13.840 we okay, let's do it. So we came up with the Briscoe Booster 679 00:44:13.960 --> 00:44:19.280 T shirt. That was kind of my idea. But young upstart of the 680 00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:22.960 name of Jerry Lawler did the artwork. He charged me absorbing twenty five dollars 681 00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:24.320 for penny drawing, and I wish I had it now. So it's in 682 00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:27.719 my here for three or four I was gonna ask if you have any of 683 00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:32.480 those sitting around? Well there your company is reproducing. Yeah, the Briscoe 684 00:44:32.519 --> 00:44:36.320 Booster T shirt, right, But I want to know those originals. I 685 00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:40.280 wish I had a whole box something me and Conrad wants in our collection. 686 00:44:40.559 --> 00:44:45.559 Well, Conrad, you can buy me. We got to find those original 687 00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:49.360 T shirts. That's amazing. I wish I wish we could. Yeah, 688 00:44:49.400 --> 00:44:52.239 true, but you know, nobody, we had no idea. We weren't 689 00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:54.840 entrepreneurs. We were wrestlers, right, and nobody thought it's going to take 690 00:44:54.920 --> 00:44:58.760 off. The first place we sold, Jerry and I loaned in the car, 691 00:44:58.920 --> 00:45:01.239 went to Fedville North Airline. We were kidding about it. Obviously. 692 00:45:01.960 --> 00:45:06.360 Years later, maybe we invented a gimmick table. You know, back then 693 00:45:07.079 --> 00:45:10.679 the only product that a wrestler had was an eight coussiate by ten black and 694 00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:14.639 white you could sell for a buck and sign it. We'd paid ten cents 695 00:45:14.639 --> 00:45:16.280 a piece for those things, so you didn't need a table for that, 696 00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:20.199 you know, give it to some kid into matches. But you got all 697 00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:22.519 these T shirts. We got to have someplace to put them, so we 698 00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:24.519 asked the people avocal, we have a table. So we piled these T 699 00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:30.159 shirts up, and you know the old sales pitch that things are flying off 700 00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:35.039 the shelves. People were buying these stick their lined up and Jerry's this is 701 00:45:35.119 --> 00:45:37.320 good. I said, it's no, it's great, all right. But 702 00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:42.119 the thing of it was, as it grew again, we were not entrepreneurs 703 00:45:42.199 --> 00:45:45.760 like somebody I know named called Cabana. And that's a compliment my friend. 704 00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:52.280 So there wasn't enough profit margin built in that once the promoters, I mean 705 00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:55.079 the building are obviously going to take a piece, right, and the ones 706 00:45:55.119 --> 00:45:58.920 that had the big percentage, we just didn't hit because we didn't end that 707 00:45:58.960 --> 00:46:01.800 build in. And then these promoters didn't anything to do with it. Saw 708 00:46:01.880 --> 00:46:05.639 what it was doing. Now they want a piece of it. Right, 709 00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:08.159 We were selling these shirts of three dollars and fifty cents a piece. Right, 710 00:46:08.400 --> 00:46:12.119 you could buy any cohor you want as long as they're black white with 711 00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:16.559 black let it. So what we did was it just we couldn't, you 712 00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:20.000 know. And the three of us still had a career at wrestling, career 713 00:46:20.039 --> 00:46:22.880 in front of us. Right when I went down to Atlanta to work with 714 00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:25.320 Gordon during the war in seventy three and seventy four on the TV and in 715 00:46:25.400 --> 00:46:30.920 the office to help out Wait hold On during the Wait What Atlanta the War 716 00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:36.559 the Wrestling War in seventy three, seventy three and seventy four, and uncle's 717 00:46:36.679 --> 00:46:40.559 husband died. He was one of the owners George Championship Wrestling Buddy Fuller, 718 00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:45.400 and those guys didn't want to share with her and buy around, so she 719 00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:51.880 started her own promotion. So the crazy thing. In the midst of that, 720 00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:55.760 Tommy had mesh of the old Atlanta Auditorium. Right, we sold it 721 00:46:55.800 --> 00:46:59.400 out on Friday night. They sold it out on Tuesday. We sold it 722 00:46:59.440 --> 00:47:01.280 out on Friday. Any So for a couple of years that that's the way 723 00:47:01.320 --> 00:47:06.199 it ran, right. But but when I went down there, I had 724 00:47:06.199 --> 00:47:08.119 to get a two bedroom apartment. But I only need one the other bedrooms 725 00:47:08.159 --> 00:47:13.039 for T shirts. And I said to Jack and Jerry, I don't intend 726 00:47:13.119 --> 00:47:15.960 to go around the country carrying a truck floaded T shirts. Right. So 727 00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:22.360 anyway, my dad built some shelving in the garage in the house in Cincinnati, 728 00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:24.840 so they started hamm them. We finished it out a mail order, 729 00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:28.800 right. But I teased Jerry, I said, with all the T shirts 730 00:47:28.840 --> 00:47:30.280 sales to day, if we could just get one percent of the net every 731 00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:34.960 week where we build a castle, right, I mean, it's become that 732 00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:38.000 kind of business. But yeah, we kicked it off. But that's so 733 00:47:38.119 --> 00:47:43.239 cool that you maybe invented the gimmick table. I love that you did say 734 00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:45.440 like that, Oh but those promoters, And I was like, yeah, 735 00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:49.440 those damn promoters. But then, uh, you're you became a promoter. 736 00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:52.400 I'm you know I've done everything. We get rich in this business. It's 737 00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:59.599 a little late for rich. So I mean, like, would you tell 738 00:47:59.679 --> 00:48:00.800 me, I mean, tell me about it, Like the idea of transferring 739 00:48:01.039 --> 00:48:05.000 from a promoter, from a wrestler to a promoter, and like if you 740 00:48:05.079 --> 00:48:07.639 were like at first, like I'm going to make sure everyone gets paid, 741 00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:10.039 and then were you like I'm looking to get paid. Did you have these 742 00:48:10.119 --> 00:48:14.320 kind of conversations in your own head? No, not really, because I'd 743 00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:16.920 been down that road so much as a wrestler, right. So, and 744 00:48:17.119 --> 00:48:22.440 you know the crazy thing is, I would almost guess, looking back then 745 00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:27.800 in the sixties and seventies, if every promoter they had first count on the 746 00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:30.880 ticket, so they took a little off the top. It was just common 747 00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:36.639 practice, right, So Okay, you just moved on and got your share 748 00:48:36.679 --> 00:48:39.400 and hoped it was better than you're suspected. Right, So it was. 749 00:48:40.239 --> 00:48:45.800 I never considered myself a promoter as such. Right. I started doing this 750 00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:49.559 when I was nineteen years old, and I can see here today at age 751 00:48:49.599 --> 00:48:52.599 eighty two and tell you I am still in love with the wrestling business. 752 00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:55.559 It is my passion, it is who I am, it's what I do, 753 00:48:57.440 --> 00:49:00.519 and it's when I die, I hope that somebody'll say, hey, 754 00:49:00.559 --> 00:49:05.320 he was a wrestler. Yeah. Uh. Now, since you say you're 755 00:49:05.360 --> 00:49:09.119 eighty two, tell me, I can't imagine you really care. Tell me 756 00:49:09.239 --> 00:49:15.760 how much money you got from WWF? Uh? Like? So hwa was 757 00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:19.360 the feeder system for for WWF? Like? What was the deals were? 758 00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:22.000 What were you getting? Like? Who were they sending you? How did 759 00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:24.719 you like work that into like profit margins? If that makes sense? Well, 760 00:49:25.559 --> 00:49:30.119 not only did developmental guys, right, but then they would let me 761 00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:34.519 have maybe four or five of the guys off the main roster who needed a 762 00:49:34.599 --> 00:49:37.559 break up there, right, So I would have them day d H with 763 00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:40.159 the developmental guys. And as you know, I'm having working for me young 764 00:49:40.559 --> 00:49:45.159 earlier in your career, some of the guys I trained were damn good country 765 00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:47.159 wrestlers. A guy named my Nige. When we get us, you might 766 00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:52.079 say he was a fair hand, sure right, Matt Striker yep, VJ. 767 00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:55.440 Whitmer, Pepper Parks I just saw yesterday. Yeah, I told him 768 00:49:55.440 --> 00:50:00.360 I was seeing you good. Yeah, and shark boys sharp pepper parts. 769 00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:04.679 I said, I'm gonna see lesson who's now the blade for these? Yes? 770 00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:07.400 The Blade, you guys. Yeah, if the Blade is a tremendous 771 00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:09.519 he's a tremendous guy and a hell of a worker. So what was the 772 00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:14.519 deal they were were they paying you money to oh yeah, okay, well 773 00:50:14.599 --> 00:50:20.639 before them and how much for their paying But before them? Uh? I. 774 00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:23.800 The crazy thing was Bruce Pritchey came to me and said, you know, 775 00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:29.760 we expanded developmental and so we talked about it and came up with kind 776 00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:32.320 of a working plan he saw. I'll get back to you. So I'm 777 00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:36.639 if anybody knows me, if you tell me we're gonna do something coat and 778 00:50:36.679 --> 00:50:38.960 you're gonna go take a nap, I'm already started doing what are we doing 779 00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:42.280 and how we're gonna do it? And how's it gonna be best. That's 780 00:50:42.320 --> 00:50:45.639 a hustler mentality. By the way, Yes, I apologize for being a 781 00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:50.559 hustler, but I don't mean to step in on your terry like you no. 782 00:50:50.719 --> 00:50:52.760 But I'm saying like oh you saying that, It's like, oh, 783 00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:57.039 that's how my mind works. Okay, I get it. But so you 784 00:50:57.159 --> 00:51:00.199 know, I'm lining up place to the guys stay to come in right and 785 00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:05.239 trying to figure it all out. And then I'm talking to what. Terry 786 00:51:05.280 --> 00:51:09.400 Taylor was still with WW at the time, and I said, are we 787 00:51:09.480 --> 00:51:14.360 going to do this and finalize it or what? He went to Vince and 788 00:51:14.840 --> 00:51:16.719 he said, hey, let's just doing this. And well we get around 789 00:51:16.760 --> 00:51:22.880 to it. Okay, the phone rings and Gary Juter from WCW calls me. 790 00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:24.639 He said, I think somebody in Connecticut's been reading our MAO. And 791 00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:28.159 I said, what you're talking about? He said, well, JJ and 792 00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:32.840 I were talking and we would like you to expand our developmental system with you. 793 00:51:35.519 --> 00:51:37.360 And I have you signed a content? I said, no, I 794 00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:40.000 don't even have a contract to sign. Don't sign anything. Do you talk 795 00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:45.679 to us? So they flew me into Atlanta and into the building and basically 796 00:51:46.079 --> 00:51:50.679 sent let me down and introduced me to everybody and walked me through the operation 797 00:51:50.800 --> 00:51:54.960 and said if you had a dream, what would it be for your company? 798 00:51:55.039 --> 00:51:59.480 And he said, t shirts, I said, I want to be 799 00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:04.800 like hold Commandah. So, uh, you know, I told him what 800 00:52:04.960 --> 00:52:07.320 I thought it would take, you know, to put my operation up a 801 00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:13.440 level, and okay, let's do it. So I signed with them, 802 00:52:13.599 --> 00:52:16.960 right, and of course what I nobody told me and what was none of 803 00:52:17.000 --> 00:52:21.400 my business actually the time, but they were rupturing money because of the company, 804 00:52:21.519 --> 00:52:24.199 you know. But I could tell too except for JJ or Terry Taylor 805 00:52:24.360 --> 00:52:28.639 was there at the time and the guys that I knew from inside to business. 806 00:52:29.039 --> 00:52:32.519 A lot of the management people were embarrassed to be there wrestling and I 807 00:52:32.559 --> 00:52:36.239 won't be a part of it. And I think that's part of the downfall. 808 00:52:36.480 --> 00:52:39.760 So you signed with wcw WC, but it never happened or it didn't. 809 00:52:39.800 --> 00:52:43.679 Oh no, it did happen right away. Part of you want to 810 00:52:43.719 --> 00:52:45.519 talk about a part of that deal. I got a twenty foot box truck, 811 00:52:45.559 --> 00:52:51.280 which you've seen right, I got the WCW ring et cetera, et 812 00:52:51.280 --> 00:52:57.280 cetera, bonus to sign and guard rails and so HWA was a WCW it 813 00:52:57.440 --> 00:53:02.519 was w and then h w C closed. Well when WC W uh well, 814 00:53:04.000 --> 00:53:06.840 before they went under, I was the newest guy on the block. 815 00:53:06.920 --> 00:53:12.559 So they canceled me Jay Hark. Let me know, hang on because when 816 00:53:12.599 --> 00:53:15.800 we get around, we're gonna bring in And that did happen, and that 817 00:53:15.920 --> 00:53:19.480 did happen. Yeah, so there was a little down time in between there. 818 00:53:19.920 --> 00:53:22.079 But yeah, so that I've actually been a trainer for both companies. 819 00:53:22.239 --> 00:53:25.920 Right, yeah, that's a h w A a true success story and uh 820 00:53:27.079 --> 00:53:29.360 you know those and I was gonna say, those guys are there's still there's 821 00:53:29.400 --> 00:53:34.199 still you know within our wrestling community. Like I just said, you know 822 00:53:34.639 --> 00:53:37.239 a Blade and Nigel and and they're still there. And so that's your you 823 00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:39.800 know when you say when I go on, you know, people to remember 824 00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:43.320 me as a wrestler, and it's like they're living there, you know, 825 00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:46.280 passing well. You know, actually, if you look, the guys are 826 00:53:46.400 --> 00:53:52.480 Jamie Noble, my Fingerprints and Shannon Moore and uh, oh my god, 827 00:53:53.920 --> 00:54:00.360 currently Adam Cole, Johnny Gargano, Drew Goolock or guys that I've worked with. 828 00:54:00.599 --> 00:54:04.360 You know, it amazes me sometimes when I look, I had something 829 00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:07.480 to do with this. You know, you just do it and you don't 830 00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:12.760 really stop to look behind. Mike Mooningham did a three part column, a 831 00:54:12.880 --> 00:54:16.519 newspaper column about me coming here, and after I read and I said, 832 00:54:16.679 --> 00:54:21.360 damn, I'm tired. I didn't realize I'd done so much. Yeah, 833 00:54:21.800 --> 00:54:24.400 right, but you know, wrestling is my life. It's who I am, 834 00:54:24.519 --> 00:54:28.920 it's what I do, it's what I love, and I'd rather be 835 00:54:29.039 --> 00:54:30.159 here in any place. I'll tell you. Yeah, let's that you. 836 00:54:30.280 --> 00:54:42.679 Everybody, Thank you, thank you, remember thanking? All right, we 837 00:54:42.800 --> 00:54:45.800 have one more special guests before we get out of air. I want to 838 00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:52.440 make this an annual art of wrestling tradition. As we bring to our closer 839 00:54:52.280 --> 00:55:02.960 my friend and yours Rock Riddle, everybody, Rock right, the man the 840 00:55:04.159 --> 00:55:08.559 myth Rack. I'm going to hand you a microphone and you're gonna talk until 841 00:55:08.639 --> 00:55:14.360 they kick us out of this building. He likes to stand us. Let 842 00:55:14.440 --> 00:55:16.559 the building, you know, and the banners fly. Feast your eyes on 843 00:55:16.719 --> 00:55:22.079 him. Is too good to be true, but he's actually here. We 844 00:55:22.280 --> 00:55:25.760 have their attention. This is great. Thank you, Rack. Do you 845 00:55:25.840 --> 00:55:30.480 want to interview me? Do you want me to just start talking? It's 846 00:55:30.960 --> 00:55:34.159 being a man of very I'm about to answer that question. And then he 847 00:55:34.199 --> 00:55:40.400 just started talking. He hesitated before he answered. So, and as unaccustomed 848 00:55:40.599 --> 00:55:45.119 as I am to public speaking, I would just like to say thank you 849 00:55:45.639 --> 00:55:50.960 for the amazing opportunity to be standing next to one of my heroes. When 850 00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:54.079 I was a little kid, I watched this man on television and I said, 851 00:55:55.079 --> 00:55:59.239 he's pretty good for a wrastler. But if I grew up in b 852 00:55:59.360 --> 00:56:01.880 a restaurant be a lots better. Wow. And now we look back on 853 00:56:02.079 --> 00:56:06.880 history and we see that you and I have actually met in the ring. 854 00:56:07.239 --> 00:56:15.519 That's right. Yeah, I trained you at the time. I said, 855 00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:17.239 I'm going to give you a wrestling lesson. Yeah. No, but I 856 00:56:17.480 --> 00:56:20.960 did it to you and you paid me. Remember when you bade me five 857 00:56:21.079 --> 00:56:23.679 thousand dollars and I was gonna scam you, and then I left the country 858 00:56:23.960 --> 00:56:30.039 and then you came and you found me buzz sawyer style. I stopped payment 859 00:56:30.119 --> 00:56:31.199 on the check. He did, he did, but I still, you 860 00:56:31.280 --> 00:56:34.320 know, I got to take you know, I got the idea that I 861 00:56:34.440 --> 00:56:37.440 did scam you, and you're not easily scammed Rock, that's true. Yeah. 862 00:56:37.480 --> 00:56:39.599 Are you going to ask me questions? Or do you just want to 863 00:56:39.599 --> 00:56:44.960 sit down and let me take over? You choose? Ask me questions? 864 00:56:45.119 --> 00:56:50.280 Okay, Rock? Yes? How when was your first match? What year? 865 00:56:51.000 --> 00:56:52.960 What year? I'm not going to tell you what year. I was 866 00:56:52.039 --> 00:57:00.440 born in July twelve, nineteen seventy three, so it had to be you're 867 00:57:00.519 --> 00:57:06.119 laughing because you don't believe I'm not old. Do you celebrated that Big five? 868 00:57:06.199 --> 00:57:08.599 Oh this year? Oh my gosh? And when I did I said 869 00:57:08.639 --> 00:57:13.199 to my friends, and I actually have a few. I said, No 870 00:57:13.280 --> 00:57:15.320 one's going to believe I'm that old. I'm going to start lying about my 871 00:57:15.480 --> 00:57:19.960 age. I just haven't started doing that yet. We'll get you there. 872 00:57:20.320 --> 00:57:23.159 Did you ever think you would like be this age? Fifty years old? 873 00:57:23.519 --> 00:57:25.960 Do I have a what? Did you ever think you would be fifty years 874 00:57:25.960 --> 00:57:30.760 old? No? I thought when on my thirtieth birthday. I grew up 875 00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:35.920 in a little town in North Carolina and there was a water tower in the 876 00:57:36.079 --> 00:57:38.199 middle of the street. The cars would go around it, and I thought, 877 00:57:38.599 --> 00:57:44.079 on my thirtieth birthday, I would jump off of that tower and commit 878 00:57:44.199 --> 00:57:47.920 suicide, because why in the world would anyone want to live past the age 879 00:57:47.960 --> 00:57:53.280 of thirty. Remember, don't trust anyone over thirty. Yes, I knew 880 00:57:53.320 --> 00:57:57.920 that I would get some good suicide talk from Rock Riddle as I brought him 881 00:57:58.000 --> 00:58:04.760 up. Hey, if you want more, because my life has always been 882 00:58:04.920 --> 00:58:08.960 outside of the professional wrestling business, has been pretty private, and my book 883 00:58:09.000 --> 00:58:15.960 will be out probably within three months, two to three months I anticipated being 884 00:58:15.000 --> 00:58:22.519 out. You can remember the short title simply wonderful, and then the subtitle 885 00:58:22.639 --> 00:58:25.840 is something like no one listens to your podcast. I don't want anyone stealing 886 00:58:25.880 --> 00:58:28.760 in the idea. I do have it trademarked, and I do have it 887 00:58:28.840 --> 00:58:37.199 registered with the writers Guilt of America West. The choice suicide, serial killer 888 00:58:37.519 --> 00:58:45.679 or legend. Welcome to the amazing universe of Rock Riddle and something like that. 889 00:58:45.119 --> 00:58:52.960 The most revealing, absolutely blatantly and brutally honest truth. And that includes 890 00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:58.280 everything. That includes the ups in my life the downs. A life is 891 00:58:58.280 --> 00:59:01.880 a series of challenges. Correct, correct, Thank you very much. I 892 00:59:01.960 --> 00:59:07.559 wanted you to say something. Yeah, remember the Hey, go ahead leave. 893 00:59:07.719 --> 00:59:10.400 This is the best part of the entire I love that Conrad Wine down 894 00:59:10.440 --> 00:59:17.559 on Rock, Honey, I can't stay here for there. I can't stand 895 00:59:17.719 --> 00:59:22.760 this guy. He's maggy and Karen Condas Indian, arrogant. He thinks he's 896 00:59:22.840 --> 00:59:25.639 better than we are. No, I don't, I know. I am. 897 00:59:30.800 --> 00:59:32.079 I was trying to get you an ad free show, Rock, but 898 00:59:32.159 --> 00:59:37.960 it didn't work. So anyway, that book will talk a lot about professional 899 00:59:38.039 --> 00:59:43.440 wrestling. We'll talk about people who inspired me, Like when I was a 900 00:59:43.480 --> 00:59:47.679 tiny little kid and I actually did watch one of my heroes, less Stature 901 00:59:47.880 --> 00:59:53.840 right there. I watched him and I said, yes, if he can 902 00:59:53.920 --> 00:59:58.039 do that, I can do that, and I can use him as inspiration 903 00:59:58.159 --> 01:00:05.199 and motivation and a fantastic man he is. And Tommy Wildfire Rich has left 904 01:00:05.280 --> 01:00:08.800 the building. He's when you see him, tell him, Oh my gosh, 905 01:00:08.840 --> 01:00:13.159 you should have stayed. You could have. You can't believe what Rock 906 01:00:13.280 --> 01:00:16.599 Riddle had to say. He shared all this amazing information with us. I've 907 01:00:16.639 --> 01:00:22.559 got seventeen more stories. Don't you want to know the story of Rip Hawk 908 01:00:22.599 --> 01:00:27.119 and how I got involved in the business and a wonderful sport and the wonderful 909 01:00:27.159 --> 01:00:30.079 world a professional wrestling. Oh no, what anybody do? I do? 910 01:00:30.199 --> 01:00:32.400 I do? But I think it's amazing that you and the iron Cheek that 911 01:00:32.440 --> 01:00:35.159 you gave it to him and he didn't beat the funk out of you. 912 01:00:35.280 --> 01:00:39.119 That's amazing. Well, it's just like when you and I were in together. 913 01:00:39.320 --> 01:00:45.039 Yeah, you never knew all right, Rock Riddle, that's how we 914 01:00:45.199 --> 01:00:54.679 Yeah, thank you. I appreciate everybody here. Given up a rock one 915 01:00:54.719 --> 01:01:01.920 more time. He's the best. Thanks everybody. After this show, I'm 916 01:01:01.920 --> 01:01:04.840 gonna wrap it up a little bit here. But after the show, where 917 01:01:04.840 --> 01:01:07.320 there's obviously a giant show down, there's a lot of the wrestlers. I'm 918 01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:09.840 gonna be at a table Colt Merge dot table, all of that fun stuff. 919 01:01:09.920 --> 01:01:15.119 Every year IPW puts on a great professional wrestling show, and so many 920 01:01:15.159 --> 01:01:16.400 great vendors down there, and people to meet and people to talk to. 921 01:01:16.559 --> 01:01:20.239 And you should make a friend here. We are in person, we are 922 01:01:20.320 --> 01:01:22.519 live. Make a wrestling friend while you were here. Before we get out 923 01:01:22.559 --> 01:01:28.719 of here, though, I'm gonna get into some plugs and coming. I 924 01:01:28.880 --> 01:01:32.239 love you all right. The best way to sport Patreon dot com, slash 925 01:01:32.280 --> 01:01:37.480 cole combanda to get all these ad free and some goodies. I'm on Twitch 926 01:01:37.559 --> 01:01:42.519 dot tv, slash Colt Cabana Socials are at Colt Cabana everywhere you're at Still 927 01:01:42.559 --> 01:01:46.280 on Twitter, although I feel it's a dying medium. Pwtlive dot com five 928 01:01:46.400 --> 01:01:52.880 thirty pm Central Chicago. Time for a live shopping experience. Upcoming August fourth 929 01:01:52.920 --> 01:01:55.239 and fifth. I'm gonna be a Dreamwave Wrestling in LaSalle, Illinois. Two 930 01:01:55.360 --> 01:02:01.840 huge shows there. September ninth, the premiere streaming network. Freddie Prince Junior 931 01:02:01.920 --> 01:02:07.719 is becoming a promoter less. I'll send Freddie your way to learn the trade. 932 01:02:07.039 --> 01:02:10.199 That's in New Jersey, and then I'm you know, Every Wednesday, 933 01:02:10.559 --> 01:02:15.559 I'm backstage doing some good work with all elite wrestling. Sometimes I'll pop up 934 01:02:15.599 --> 01:02:20.519 on being the elite or beat or the shows. Keep your eye out for 935 01:02:20.679 --> 01:02:23.800 me. I want to give a hand one more time for my live studio 936 01:02:23.800 --> 01:02:30.000 audience here in Waterloo, Iowa. And let's thank our guest one more time. 937 01:02:30.159 --> 01:02:37.639 Conrad Thompson, Less Stature, Tommy Rich and of course the legend Rock 938 01:02:37.800 --> 01:02:39.719 Riddle. Can't wait to have you back next year. Thank you to the 939 01:02:39.800 --> 01:02:44.480 National Wrestling Hall of Fame and the people of ip W. Thank you to 940 01:02:44.599 --> 01:03:01.519 you for Cold Cabana. I'm Cold Cabana. Thanks alright, Hi, everybody, 941 01:03:01.559 --> 01:03:13.519 how you doing. I didn't say clap your feelings, I said how 942 01:03:13.559 --> 01:03:20.760 are you doing? Okay? Great, We're gonna do a podcast here. 943 01:03:22.039 --> 01:03:23.920 If you need to chit chat, please feel free to go outside. That's 944 01:03:23.960 --> 01:03:27.159 not the place to do it. We got a lot of fun guests coming 945 01:03:27.239 --> 01:03:30.840 up. I just want to make sure everything's recording. I'm gonna put some 946 01:03:30.280 --> 01:03:34.440 This will go up live on the internet. Anybody ever heard of the Internet. 947 01:03:36.039 --> 01:03:39.360 It's on computers now, so get used to it. It's a Simpsons 948 01:03:39.440 --> 01:03:45.079 reference. If anybody gets it. Okay, uh, let's see all right, 949 01:03:45.400 --> 01:03:50.880 what's gonna happen is uh, I'm gonna play. I'm not gonna play 950 01:03:50.920 --> 01:03:52.719 any music. I'll put it all in edits. So when I come on 951 01:03:52.800 --> 01:03:57.000 the stage or when I come this way, you're all gonna cheer, make 952 01:03:57.039 --> 01:04:00.760 some noise, and you're gonna pretend like you've never seen me. And now 953 01:04:00.800 --> 01:04:04.039 you've seen me and it's a great day. Is that? Okay? All 954 01:04:04.119 --> 01:04:16.440 right? Let me open this up. Rock Raydle? Is that rock Radle? 955 01:04:24.360 --> 01:04:31.559 Okay? Alright, you guys ready, all right, I'm gonna hide 956 01:04:31.559 --> 01:04:34.440 in this corner. And then when I announced me, you're gonna make some 957 01:04:34.679 --> 01:04:38.840 noise. Ladies and gentlemen called cabana