1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:17,199 This is the Art of wrestling with professional wrestler called Cabanda. Oh thank you, 2 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,760 all right, thank you? Hi guys doing come on in, sit 3 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,399 down, Relax, You're about to listen to the art of wrestling a professional 4 00:00:33,439 --> 00:00:36,840 wrestling podcast. It's a live podcast as a personal journal. It's an entry 5 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,039 way into the minds that souls the hearts and lives of the people involved in 6 00:00:39,039 --> 00:00:43,280 the world of professional wrestling. I am your host. My name is Cold 7 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:53,679 Cabanda. Hello, and I am not sitting here live from my studio in 8 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:58,479 Chicago, Illinois. Thank you one person who remembers the podcast. I am 9 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,960 here in front of a live student audio audience in Waterloo, Iowa, at 10 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:10,920 the National Wrestling Hall of Fame weekend. Before we go any further, this 11 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:15,040 is a live podcast supported by each and every single one of you. We 12 00:01:15,159 --> 00:01:19,200 used to give it to you every single week free on a Thursday, but 13 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:23,000 now whenever I get around to it, I'll throw one out. I appreciate 14 00:01:23,079 --> 00:01:29,239 you. The best way that you can support is coultmerch dot com. Still 15 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:33,959 still throwing stuff over there, Twitch dot tv, slash Colt Cabana. Come 16 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:38,799 watch me play Fortnite. As a forty three year old man that seems to 17 00:01:38,799 --> 00:01:47,040 be weirdly popular. Pwtlive dot com is my weekly live shopping experience every single 18 00:01:47,079 --> 00:01:52,200 Tuesday night at five thirty pm Central Time, and Patreon dot com slash Colt 19 00:01:52,239 --> 00:01:56,480 Cabanas where you can give the back catalog add free and we will get into 20 00:01:56,519 --> 00:02:00,000 ad free in just a little bit. That's also cult Merch dot com. 21 00:02:00,159 --> 00:02:05,359 And then after this downstairs during the show, visit me at Coltmerch dot table 22 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:13,759 where I will sell you my eight by tens and if you ask nicely and 23 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:20,199 the prices right, I will sell my socks and or underwear just to get 24 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,800 by. We're gonna have a bunch of guests here in a bit. I'm 25 00:02:23,879 --> 00:02:28,000 very excited to have a show. I do want to talk about being back 26 00:02:28,199 --> 00:02:31,479 here. This is very exciting. Every single month, every single year. 27 00:02:31,479 --> 00:02:35,400 It's an annual thing I do is come here to the National Wrestling Hall of 28 00:02:35,479 --> 00:02:38,039 Fame. I love that you are here, and I try to explain it 29 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:45,319 to everybody that there's this weird hidden gem in Iowa of great wrestling fans and 30 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:49,400 a great wrestling crowd, and like all these stars of professional wrestling come out, 31 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,879 and I still think it's like a beautiful hidden thing, and I think 32 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,439 you are all to the right thing here, and thanks for coming. I 33 00:02:55,479 --> 00:03:01,759 love the museums. Everybody get a chance to check out the museum. There's 34 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:07,240 nothing like driving into Waterloo from Chicago, Illinois, getting to the Dan Gable 35 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:13,639 Museum looking at dream Girls right next to it, and being like, which 36 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,879 one should I go to? And for those of you at home listening, 37 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:28,520 legendarily, there is this unbelievable past of professional and regular wrestling or what should 38 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,360 we call it regular wrestling? I don't even know what to call real wrestling, 39 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:37,599 regular Greco Roman wrestling. There is just this beautiful like history just sitting 40 00:03:37,639 --> 00:03:42,039 in one building and then to the next building. Is just this legendary strip 41 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:46,400 club that you know, like Dan Gables, just walking right over every single 42 00:03:46,479 --> 00:03:51,840 day. So I thought, like some is it called dream girls? Who 43 00:03:51,840 --> 00:04:00,360 would know? Flirts? Flirts? Legitimately, every man in this room just 44 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:04,639 looked at me and said, flirts. It's flirts two for one on a 45 00:04:04,719 --> 00:04:10,479 Thursday, it's flirts. Go there, listen. So if I'm flirts on 46 00:04:10,639 --> 00:04:15,080 this weekend, I if I'm a lady there, I'm kind of changing up 47 00:04:15,159 --> 00:04:18,720 my thing and I'm working the gimmick a little, I think, and I 48 00:04:18,879 --> 00:04:24,639 here's some names I came up for some dancers that I think should be at 49 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,240 Flirts just this weekend specifically. You tell me if you if you like them. 50 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,680 My first one, obviously was Thundercock Patterson I thought would be I thought 51 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,759 would be a good one. Also, there's a lady over there dance dancing 52 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:46,759 is a less snatcher. It's a good one. You're welcome less j B 53 00:04:46,319 --> 00:04:53,000 l O W G O job all right, I was stretching on that one 54 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,639 that's supposed blow job. If for no one got then okay, uh oh 55 00:04:56,759 --> 00:05:01,800 this is okay haw cooch. Oh you guys picked that up better than I 56 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:12,959 thought you would. Baron, just Baron and of course, uh, probably 57 00:05:12,959 --> 00:05:17,800 the best stripper name that there would be sorry, uh, entertainment enhanced. 58 00:05:18,519 --> 00:05:20,959 I don't want to. I don't want to get canceled for calling someone a 59 00:05:20,959 --> 00:05:26,240 stripper. Sorry, adult entertainer, adult entertainer. I think the best possible 60 00:05:26,319 --> 00:05:35,120 name would be rock Riddle, Rock Riddle. That's just me. Every year 61 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:40,959 there always seems to be some some news that pops out of this and right 62 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,240 when I got there, they're like, oh, fucking Brisco, what the 63 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:49,399 fuck and uh so, uh just for everyone at home and everyone. Uh 64 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:54,000 God, I'm like, I've men, I feel like melts are here. 65 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,600 Breaking the news. Jerry Briscoe was sent to the hospital, but I've been 66 00:05:57,639 --> 00:06:05,680 told that he's okay. I talked to JBL today jblow Job and and he 67 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:10,040 was like, oh, he's fine. And then he was just like couldn't 68 00:06:10,079 --> 00:06:13,800 stop making jokes about Jerry Briscoe. And I was like, that's kind of 69 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:18,600 morbid. He's like, ah, fuck him, Fuck Oklahoma. But those 70 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,800 everyone seems to be in good spirits. That's the news. I don't know 71 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:26,240 if anyone is Is there any other hot goss happening here at the show? 72 00:06:26,319 --> 00:06:30,680 Anyone heard anything good? No. Troy told me he was like, we 73 00:06:30,759 --> 00:06:33,160 gotta get everything in one place. Troy, who helps run IPW and there's 74 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,560 an IPW show. He's like, you know, we gotta get these people 75 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:41,399 all in one place. It's just like we gotta get them to stop drinking. 76 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:46,800 So apparently you all are a bunch of fucking alcoholics. Congratulations And then 77 00:06:46,879 --> 00:06:49,879 on a personal note, on a side note, I just walked in here 78 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:54,839 and I saw Capitol City Kyle and Tim Larson, who did helped with a 79 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,879 news letter, Tim, Great to see you. Tim did the Upper Midwest 80 00:06:57,959 --> 00:07:02,199 News later letter and started in ninety nine, nineteen ninety eight. I started 81 00:07:02,199 --> 00:07:05,240 wrestling in ninety nine, and I was going well, I was going to 82 00:07:05,639 --> 00:07:10,680 Western Michigan University in nineteen eighty eight, and I remember going to the computer 83 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,240 lab, which I don't even know if that's a thing anymore, right, 84 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:19,160 and like looking up the information that Tim would put and then also Al gets 85 00:07:19,319 --> 00:07:24,439 is here who is now selling a book? And he would make this website 86 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,959 called the or he had I think it was WU Wrestling, and he had 87 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,920 the WU Top fifty, which was like the top independent wrestlers. And just 88 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:36,079 to bump into you guys, Al and Tim and Kyle all within this space 89 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:40,759 like just brings back so many great memories of being a Midwest wrestler and being 90 00:07:40,759 --> 00:07:44,199 able to like travel the world. And I told Al, like how influential 91 00:07:44,319 --> 00:07:46,920 he was on me just to like see that list of fifty wrestlers and want 92 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,639 to be in it as an independent wrestler. And of course Tim's newsletter was 93 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:56,000 so influential on all the Midwest wrestlers to like, I think better ourselves to 94 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,160 get in that newsletter to get the praise. It was like the original Twitter 95 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,079 and whatnot. So it really was like that's what Twitter was in nineteen ninety 96 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,959 eight. So on that note, I love the all the people here and 97 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:11,319 all the wrestling like family. And you know, I just newsletter turned Internet 98 00:08:11,399 --> 00:08:15,560 turned whatever is next? I guess podcasting and who knows what's after that. 99 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,560 So I appreciate all you and I love being here. Thanks for being here. 100 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:28,519 This is amazing. And with that, I think it makes sense to 101 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,639 bring up my first guests, and he's paving his own way here in the 102 00:08:31,679 --> 00:08:35,600 world of the internet. Please welcome to the stage, joining me Conrad THOMPSONID 103 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,120 thanks for having me. Man, my first trip to Waterloo. This is 104 00:08:46,159 --> 00:08:50,360 a pretty cool place, man. Yeah, oh yeah, hey, hey, 105 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,879 it's Conrad Thompson. There it is, and we're here at the Art 106 00:08:52,919 --> 00:08:56,320 of Wrestling, the OG Wrestling Podcast. About that, I think, well, 107 00:08:56,399 --> 00:08:58,799 thank you very much, thanks for joining me. I appreciate and I 108 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:05,720 did easily think this could just be like a backscratching you know, like you're 109 00:09:05,799 --> 00:09:11,879 great. I'm I'm great. No, I can't say that you're the real 110 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:13,799 podfather. I mean, you've you've put me over so much, so we 111 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,720 don't need to, you know, to put overs over. It's just I'd 112 00:09:16,759 --> 00:09:20,879 love to talk about the wrestling with you, and um, I guess yeah, 113 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:22,120 just right away as I was saying that, like I was saying that 114 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:26,440 I had the wo Top fifty for me, I had the newsletter for me. 115 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,200 I don't know if there was anything that you were, like, you 116 00:09:30,279 --> 00:09:33,039 know, now people are just like sucked to whatever their Twitter is or read 117 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,840 it or whatever it is. I don't know what you were. What were 118 00:09:35,879 --> 00:09:41,000 you going for information as a kid or as a teenager in those years that 119 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,960 like really defined us as and we're the same age, I think. So 120 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:48,960 it's to forty Club. I subscribe to the Torch on the Observer in ninety 121 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:52,320 seven and I really didn't know who they were except there were all these news 122 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,480 sites like scoops and all the other stuff that they would credit Dave Meltzer and 123 00:09:56,519 --> 00:10:00,440 Wade Killer, and I had no idea who that was. So I went 124 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,879 and jumped on that, and then of course One Wrestling and that became pw 125 00:10:03,039 --> 00:10:07,240 Insider, and yeah, I got all my stuff originally from the Internet, 126 00:10:07,279 --> 00:10:09,519 and they referred me to the newsletters and just kept up with Dave and these 127 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:15,159 days of course Sean rell sapp and everybody else. And did you get the 128 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:16,919 actual newsletters coming to your house? Oh yeah, I got them in the 129 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,840 mail every Saturday and it was awesome. Yeah, just like me. You 130 00:10:20,919 --> 00:10:24,879 realize you try to sell them, that they're not worth anything anymore. Well, 131 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:28,039 I threw them out. I didn't keep them. I wish I would 132 00:10:28,039 --> 00:10:30,919 have kept all my old vhs as though. I got a bunch of college 133 00:10:30,919 --> 00:10:33,080 sey I'm home videos and I was like, nobody's using this. This is 134 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,440 a dead medium. Then I get on eBay and I'm like, oh, 135 00:10:35,519 --> 00:10:37,120 man, I threw away a lot of money. Yeah yeah, yeah, 136 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:41,480 but well, funny you say that because I think, notoriously you're such a 137 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:46,240 collector. Yeah. Right, But that was my accident, you know. 138 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,440 I mean I had stuff as a kid, and then I just said, 139 00:10:48,519 --> 00:10:50,720 you know, I don't really keep up with wrestling anymore. I don't care, 140 00:10:50,799 --> 00:10:52,720 and I let kids have it, or I just dumped it, or 141 00:10:52,799 --> 00:10:56,919 you know, if it was something I recorded, but I just didn't hang 142 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,799 on to it. And then one day I saw a robe Ric Flair robe 143 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:01,679 on eBay and I was like, man, that'd be like own in one 144 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,000 of Elvis's jumpsuits. That's cool. And so then I thought, all right, 145 00:11:05,039 --> 00:11:07,759 now that I have this, what the hell do I do with it? 146 00:11:07,879 --> 00:11:09,039 Like? How do you display that in your house? Like? What 147 00:11:09,159 --> 00:11:11,919 do he do with it? Once you have it? So I thought, 148 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,320 okay, well maybe I'll do a little display. Okay, I need a 149 00:11:15,399 --> 00:11:18,279 belt. Well, who makes the coolest big gold belt? It was Dave 150 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,320 Milliken at the time, had a really nice one, and I saw that 151 00:11:20,399 --> 00:11:24,240 he had pictures of the old original Ric Flair nameplay from the actual Big Gold 152 00:11:24,279 --> 00:11:26,840 Belt, and I found out who had it and bought it. And then 153 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,440 I was like, well that was kind of easy. I wonder if I 154 00:11:28,519 --> 00:11:31,120 could find the belt, and I did, and it became like this fun 155 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:35,039 treasure hunt of who has what? And I mean, as I'm sitting here 156 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:39,279 with you now, I'm working on something, so yeah, it's always fun 157 00:11:39,399 --> 00:11:43,159 to find that next thing. How did you find How did you find that? 158 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,720 You said, I found the name play? Well, yeah, so 159 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,399 Dave had a picture of it posted on his website where he sells belts and 160 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:54,960 stuff, and I said, hey, man, do you have this hypothetically 161 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,240 is that for sale? And he goes, no, my buddy, has 162 00:11:56,279 --> 00:12:00,200 it, and he told me he'd never sell it, so email and I 163 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:01,840 said, okay, well, hypothetically, if hever changes his mind, I'm 164 00:12:01,879 --> 00:12:05,159 a buyer at blank. Two days later he emailed me back and said, 165 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:09,360 never is today. Here's his phone number. So I bought the nameplay. 166 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,440 It was five grand. Nice but to me, what a great deal that 167 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:18,320 was to have the actual nameplay from the Big Gold Belt through NWAWCW the WWF 168 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,360 five grand, Like, man, that's cool. Like if that was a 169 00:12:20,399 --> 00:12:24,279 piece of NFL history, that would have been fifty thousand, but because it 170 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,840 was wrestling history ten years ago, it was five grand. I'm like, 171 00:12:26,879 --> 00:12:28,559 oh, dude, that's home run. I'm in Yeah, have you gone 172 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:33,000 to the museum. I haven't yet, I'm going tomorrow. Okay, because 173 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:39,720 there is a Maurice till a Death masks, Bruce has one of those rights. 174 00:12:39,919 --> 00:12:41,960 Yes, does he still have it? I think so. It's in 175 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,360 his office. I had heard he's sold it. I don't believe so, 176 00:12:43,519 --> 00:12:46,799 And it's like not my dream to own it, but I feel the same 177 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,720 way, like I want to, like, hey, anyone who has it, 178 00:12:50,799 --> 00:12:52,639 Like when you're ready to sell it, I'm ready to buy it. 179 00:12:52,879 --> 00:12:54,840 And I feel I don't care what the price would be. I don't know 180 00:12:54,919 --> 00:12:58,960 how to say that. Now, Well you can ask Bruce tomorrow. Okay, 181 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,799 it's gonna be here. But his new place in Connecticut, he's got 182 00:13:01,879 --> 00:13:05,399 like a formal office and then like a podcast office. So for years you 183 00:13:05,399 --> 00:13:07,000 could see it in the background when we were doing pods at his old house 184 00:13:07,039 --> 00:13:11,399 in Texas. But like his formal office now sits in there, so he 185 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,240 still got it, which is crazy to me. Well, you let him 186 00:13:13,279 --> 00:13:16,960 know. I'll let him know he's ready, because I think there's only six, 187 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,600 maide I believe. Okay, I didn't know that there's only six in 188 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,240 the world, and we have one here that's all museum, and then I 189 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:28,120 know Bruce has one, so there's four. And I think out there, 190 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,320 well, there's the one guy who's the man I hate that I forgot his 191 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:35,759 name. Does anyone know the guy who knows everything about Maurice Delay, who's 192 00:13:35,799 --> 00:13:39,399 the French Angel. I think he's come here before, but he's like the 193 00:13:39,519 --> 00:13:45,360 utmost knowledgeable human being. And a lot of people think that the character Shrek 194 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,639 was loosely modeled on this guy's wrestling, and I think that's why it would 195 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:54,000 never lose value and it would only go up. Yes, what are the 196 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:58,039 what are the things that you seeked out and tried to get and did get? 197 00:13:58,399 --> 00:14:00,919 Besides that, because I feel you have the giant collection, or maybe 198 00:14:00,919 --> 00:14:03,559 I'm incorrect. No, no, yeah, I mean the thing I looked 199 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,440 for forever that no one could find. I was able to collect a bunch 200 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,120 of Rick Flair robes and and I wound up making money on all of them. 201 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,320 But the one I always wanted that I could never find was the butterfly 202 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,440 robe, the one he wore at the ninety two Rumble, so black with 203 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,399 white feathers or whatever and silver butterflies. We couldn't find it at all. 204 00:14:20,559 --> 00:14:24,120 And then while WW was in the middle of filming that Most Wanted Treasures thing, 205 00:14:24,679 --> 00:14:26,799 a buddy, a collector buddy of mine, said, you won't believe 206 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:31,080 this. It's sold on eBay in like two hours for a fraction of what 207 00:14:31,159 --> 00:14:33,799 it was actually worth. And I happened to know the buyer, so we 208 00:14:33,879 --> 00:14:37,159 started negotiating and we recreated some of that for A and E. But that 209 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,600 was kind of a real story, like I'd been looking for that thing and 210 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:43,919 calling it out on podcasts forever, and then it just popped up out of 211 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:48,159 nowhere when you least expected it. Wait, something was recreated, and can 212 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:52,320 you believe it in a reality show? It's not all reality, but I 213 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,440 mean the gist of the story was real. I mean I'd been looking for 214 00:14:54,519 --> 00:14:58,399 that thing, you know, at least once a month I'd make a post 215 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,279 or mentioned it on a podcast for eight years, and then it just popped 216 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:05,440 up out of nowhere. So that was maybe the most rewarding find because I 217 00:15:05,519 --> 00:15:09,879 had actually sought it out for so long. Yeah. Um, as a 218 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:15,159 huge fan of comedy podcasts, I remember there was a guy named jeff Erlick 219 00:15:15,919 --> 00:15:20,120 who like just saw there was a show that I still listen to. It's 220 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,360 called Comedy Bang Bang. It's been it's been out forever, and he just 221 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:28,240 like saw the potential in it in like twenty ten and was just like he 222 00:15:28,399 --> 00:15:31,039 found angel investors, but like by himself, and he just realized that, 223 00:15:31,159 --> 00:15:33,960 like, there's money in it, there's this is a business model. No 224 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,440 one's really doing it, but I'm going to be early in on it and 225 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:41,080 I'm going to figure it out. And then they formed Earwolf. Earwolf sold 226 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:46,879 to Stitcher. Stitcher sold to Sirius, and then a fifty million dollars paycheck 227 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:50,240 later. You know, like here we are in the world, and I 228 00:15:50,399 --> 00:15:54,679 guess I know you started with Rick Flair as like a total outsider. Yes, 229 00:15:54,799 --> 00:15:58,240 and I'm sure you've talked a lot about about this, but I you 230 00:15:58,279 --> 00:16:00,879 know, you're I think everyone one would have applaud like your business brain of 231 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:06,120 like what you've created, which is able. Yeah, and like I want 232 00:16:06,159 --> 00:16:07,960 to know, like some people were like, Coult, did you know yours 233 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,159 was going to be like popular? And I was kind of like, yeah, 234 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:15,080 like they've been doing the style of podcast that I was doing for years 235 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,840 in comedy and it got really popular. Like I saw it there. I 236 00:16:18,919 --> 00:16:22,639 just knew you had to like make it for our people. Did you have 237 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,519 that business mind? Did you see the opening? Did you see like where 238 00:16:26,559 --> 00:16:29,559 you're at? Did you see that opening? Knew you had to put in 239 00:16:29,639 --> 00:16:32,440 some hours but it would get there? Yeah? Absolutely. I mean I 240 00:16:32,519 --> 00:16:33,720 didn't know what I was doing. You know. That was the longest question 241 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:37,200 of all time, so I appreciate it. I was an accidental podcaster with 242 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:41,759 Rick. You know, he got a deal with CBS and then asked me 243 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,919 to come in and ask him fan questions on the first episode because he just 244 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,840 thought it would be awkward just him talking to a microphone. He wanted to 245 00:16:47,879 --> 00:16:49,960 do what we're doing, so I said sure, and at the end of 246 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,399 it, the CBS folks said, hey, that was pretty good. Can 247 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,720 you come back next week? So I became an accidental podcaster. And Rick 248 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,919 was old school. He was driving to a radio station in downtown Atlanta, 249 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,960 so i'd make the trip over and we'd knock out, sometimes two in a 250 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:04,799 week. And it was fun. But as you said, you're not making 251 00:17:04,839 --> 00:17:08,039 any money, you're learning, you're figuring it out. And through doing that, 252 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,799 I realized, just because you know, I want to I want to 253 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,799 business up everything. So I would look at downloads and say, hey, 254 00:17:14,839 --> 00:17:18,400 what's doing better Now. Some people would say, oh, podcasting is fun, 255 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,240 and I get that, but I am a sales guy. I want 256 00:17:21,279 --> 00:17:23,079 to grow. I want to do more. So I want to give the 257 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,799 audience. I want to super serve the audience. What are they buying, 258 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,039 what are they not buying? Let's give them more of what they like and 259 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,200 less of what they don't. So we had big time guests on like Dana 260 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:36,559 White, Nobody listened, Lawrence Taylor, nobody listened. Darius Rucker. Nobody 261 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:40,359 listened nasty board knobs through the roof. What the hell like that don't make 262 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:41,640 any sense? So then I was like, Okay, I got it. 263 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:47,839 But I also noticed wrestling podcasts at the time everyone was doing the interview format, 264 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:52,440 whether it was Jericho or Jr. Or Austin. So when Al Snow 265 00:17:52,519 --> 00:17:56,599 had a new book come out, you know what I mean, obviously everybody 266 00:17:56,799 --> 00:17:59,519 has out one and promote the book. I get that we're all pulling for 267 00:17:59,599 --> 00:18:02,759 out. As a listener, I would be like, I just heard him 268 00:18:02,839 --> 00:18:04,599 last week On the other I don't know, maybe I'll listen to it later. 269 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,400 So it became kind of skippable. So then I thought, all right, 270 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,359 as a business, I don't want to have to have the stress of 271 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,119 having fifty two different guests a year. I would rather just be about the 272 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,799 show. And I grew up a big Howard Stern fan. And I know 273 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,359 people think he's a great legendary interviewer now, but some of my favorite moments 274 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,400 weren't his long form interviews. It was just him busting volves with the rest 275 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,359 of the crew. So I thought, I want more of that. How 276 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,920 do I do that? And it just so happened that I became acquainted with 277 00:18:32,039 --> 00:18:36,400 Bruce and I hired him to help me shoot some commercials and stuff because he's 278 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:40,200 great at television production. Those campaigns were gangbusters. But at the end of 279 00:18:40,279 --> 00:18:44,559 one long day, we're just sitting in my house edan barbecue, watching TV 280 00:18:44,759 --> 00:18:47,680 and I said, hey, man, what happened when the radicals jumped over 281 00:18:47,839 --> 00:18:51,799 from WCW to the WWF And he adjusted in his seat and he said, 282 00:18:51,799 --> 00:18:53,880 well, And we just talked for an hour back and forth, and at 283 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,039 the end, I go, dude, this is a podcast we should have 284 00:18:56,039 --> 00:19:00,799 recorded that. There's nothing out there like that. That's sort of how the 285 00:19:00,039 --> 00:19:03,400 Conrad format. I don't call it that, but others online do. Was 286 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:07,559 born is just one topic in long form? He produced your mortgage commercials? 287 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,920 Yeah, absolutely, absolutely else was he doing because he was out of the 288 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:18,880 when I'm at Bruce he had he was managing an attorney's office. A friend 289 00:19:18,319 --> 00:19:22,359 you've probably if you were an OG something the wrestle listener. You heard the 290 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,799 Rob Taylor Mesothelioma commercials. That was the guy that Bruce used to work for 291 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,279 and managed his office. And you know he I met him and I knew 292 00:19:30,319 --> 00:19:33,799 he had a TV background. I was trying to come up with a fun 293 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:37,279 idea and I had the ideas, but I didn't know how to produce it. 294 00:19:37,319 --> 00:19:40,319 I didn't know how to shoot it. I didn't know how to get 295 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:44,519 my vision on video. Bruce could do it, so he flew into Huntsville. 296 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,039 We did a shoot in Huntsville, did one in Nashville, did one 297 00:19:47,039 --> 00:19:49,160 in Chattanooga. They were home runs, and I was like, Okay, 298 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,319 this is a thing. We're going to do more of this. And so 299 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:53,799 he would come in like once a month and we'd shoot something else, but 300 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,400 in the evening time he would just tell wrestling stories. I was like, 301 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:00,119 we gotta start recording these and let people hear this. And he became a 302 00:20:00,279 --> 00:20:04,599 reluctant accidental podcast or nice Yeah. So again we're the same age. So 303 00:20:04,759 --> 00:20:11,720 like when whatever, when a name pops up, like and I was just 304 00:20:11,799 --> 00:20:14,000 listening to Power and Glory today for some reason, I don't know why I 305 00:20:14,079 --> 00:20:15,599 showed up in my YouTube, you know, like I think I was like, 306 00:20:15,759 --> 00:20:18,079 Oh, how do they debut? I'd like to know. And then 307 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:22,759 the next recommended was Bruce shooting on Power and Glory, and I was like, 308 00:20:22,759 --> 00:20:23,960 oh, I would like to hear, you know, like, so 309 00:20:25,319 --> 00:20:29,039 I loved that information, and then you get to ask all the questions that 310 00:20:29,079 --> 00:20:30,359 you always wanted to know the answer yes, because he was right there. 311 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,720 So you're just they're the same as the listener. Was there any anything that 312 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,279 you wanted to get out of him that you like, he won't talk to 313 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:41,680 you on our information And I'm not saying to give me any answer, you 314 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,000 know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, well it's almost a joke at 315 00:20:44,039 --> 00:20:48,720 this point. But he will not reveal the magic behind a buried alive match. 316 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,680 Okay, but I mean NBC did it so we could see it, 317 00:20:51,799 --> 00:20:53,720 but just tell us how you guys did it, And he just won't. 318 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,319 He won't reveal that, which I think is a little silly, like of 319 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,720 all the things that we're willing to tell all the truth on this one off, 320 00:21:00,799 --> 00:21:04,039 stupid gimmick match we won't talk about, but he won't do it. 321 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,680 And then I was going to say, what are your thoughts or what have 322 00:21:07,759 --> 00:21:11,920 you learned about the idea of the kind red format or you know, the 323 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,599 idea of like, hey, we can't depend on guests the whole time, 324 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:19,279 and can that go for ten years? Have you what have you learned, 325 00:21:19,319 --> 00:21:23,279 what have you started implementing into your shows, and what do you think, 326 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,680 Like are some moves that you might have that you are thinking about or want 327 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,160 to move towards in the future. I gets I don't know what to sustain, 328 00:21:30,279 --> 00:21:33,000 but to you know, to keep this thing rocking and rolling. Yeah, 329 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,440 I mean, I think the way people consume media is different, so 330 00:21:36,519 --> 00:21:40,200 we've certainly started to do more video, but I think the short form video 331 00:21:40,319 --> 00:21:42,559 is the next thing, you know, not just TikTok, but like Instagram 332 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:48,119 reels and YouTube shorts and all that. I think those little data points that's 333 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:52,039 where the long term money is probably going to be. And a lot of 334 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,240 channels have already figured that out, where we could do one long form thing, 335 00:21:55,319 --> 00:21:57,200 then we can do a series of five and seven minute clips. Then 336 00:21:57,279 --> 00:22:00,720 we can do some that are one to two minutes them he can do something 337 00:22:00,759 --> 00:22:03,519 that are fifteen to thirty seconds. But I think the short form video is 338 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:08,400 really the growth opportunity for wrestling as a whole. Like, like, my 339 00:22:08,559 --> 00:22:11,440 mom went to Ric Flair's last match last year. It's the first time she's 340 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:15,119 been to a wrestling match in forty years, and when she was done, 341 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,880 she said son. Then boys in them masks. She had never seen lucha 342 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,960 libre before, so all the acrobatic stuff she had never seen and thought that 343 00:22:22,079 --> 00:22:26,839 was amazing. Well, my mom sits at home and consumes Facebook and TikTok 344 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,960 videos all day long, but she's not gonna sit down and watch a Lucha 345 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,799 libre match. But if she saw a clip of that man, she'd be 346 00:22:32,839 --> 00:22:34,200 all in and then she might go buy the mask, and she did. 347 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:38,079 She has a pent A mask in her office now because she loved that match. 348 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,720 He wasn't in the match, but that didn't matter. She thought the 349 00:22:41,759 --> 00:22:45,119 mask looked cool. Also the sensual way you're like about your mom and then 350 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,920 boys in the match, well she's like, I've never seen anything like that 351 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,119 before, Like, how did they do that? It's like cert to Sleigh 352 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,279 for her. She grew up on continental wrestling, you know, so it's 353 00:22:55,279 --> 00:22:59,240 a little different what the Fullers were doing and what the Lucha bros Are doing. 354 00:22:59,799 --> 00:23:02,759 That's so she was really enamored with that, and I think that's probably 355 00:23:02,799 --> 00:23:07,440 the growth opportunity is to get non fans and kids and younger folks to watch 356 00:23:07,559 --> 00:23:10,920 is the short form. So I think we'll probably start doing more short form 357 00:23:11,039 --> 00:23:14,920 video and then you say we and this is my biggest mistake that I regret 358 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,720 is I was my own machine and sometimes it just gets too much. And 359 00:23:18,839 --> 00:23:22,799 so when you say, I know, but I'm looking for you to answer, 360 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,039 is a team? You build a team? Right? Yeah? I 361 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,920 mean, I don't know how many folks, maybe thirty ish people work on 362 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,599 our podcast. It's a lot. It is a lot, but you know, 363 00:23:32,599 --> 00:23:34,279 I mean, we've got to have people who who edit video, and 364 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,200 we got to have people who can do the audio, and we've gotta have 365 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:41,599 people who can research, and people who do social and people who sell ads 366 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,200 and that we have the whole starcast thing. So yeah, twenty four thirty 367 00:23:45,319 --> 00:23:49,440 ish people. But when you're doing mortgages, you already did you already have 368 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:56,319 a team in your pre wrestling business life, oh, in the mortgage side. 369 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,119 Yeah? Oh yeah, Yeah, we've been rocking a big team since 370 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:03,519 oh nine. And you did you go to school for business or anything? 371 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,960 Yeah? So I got a scholarship when I was a sophomore in high school 372 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:11,359 for our local community college. But it was like all your books in tuition 373 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,079 and everything. So it was like, Okay, that's what I want to 374 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,960 do because I knew I wanted to be in sales like my family had enjoyed 375 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:19,880 success in their life through sales, so I knew that's what I wanted to 376 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:25,799 do. And so my second year I was starting my sophomore year. My 377 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,279 business teacher, Van Scott, who I had to have a ton of classes 378 00:24:29,319 --> 00:24:33,160 with my freshman year too, said hey, some of you in this room, 379 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,079 if you keep your head down and you keep your nose clean, in 380 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:37,960 five years, some of you could make up to thirty five thousand dollars a 381 00:24:38,079 --> 00:24:42,680 year. And it was September and I looked at my year to day pastub 382 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:47,079 in my book bag and I'd already made over sixty grand. So I waited 383 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:48,240 untill everybody left, and I go up and I said, hey, man, 384 00:24:48,279 --> 00:24:51,440 I think I'm done. He goes, are you dropping this class? 385 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,279 I said no, I think I'm quit in school. And he said why, 386 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,359 and I handed him my pasttub and he says, son, you make 387 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,039 more than me. Where are you here? So I was it. I 388 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,680 never went back to school. I quit. I've been full time selling ever 389 00:25:02,799 --> 00:25:07,799 since. That was September of two thousand and then in August of oh one, 390 00:25:07,839 --> 00:25:11,200 I found the mortgage business, and it was the best thing that ever 391 00:25:11,279 --> 00:25:15,839 happened to me professionally for sure. What about podcasts, well, listen, 392 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,880 I appreciate that. But as you know, the whole reason I got into 393 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:23,359 podcasting was because I was spending a ton of cash advertising my mortgage company. 394 00:25:23,599 --> 00:25:27,000 So now it was like, as I'm driving to Atlanta to record with Rick, 395 00:25:27,039 --> 00:25:30,640 I'm like, people all over the world are hearing for this, and 396 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,960 I'm not having to pay for it. I should just start mentioning the mortgage 397 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,599 company. And at the time, we were only in like six states, 398 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,839 where we're in forty six states now and we wouldn't have expanded all that licensing 399 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:45,880 if it wouldn't have been for a now unpaid global advertising campaign. So it 400 00:25:45,039 --> 00:25:48,279 was an accident, but it was a good one, a good accident. 401 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,119 Ad free shows dot com is the way that everybody gets to everything. Yeah, 402 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,359 absolutely, or just hit me up on Twitter and I'll probably tweet about 403 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,079 it. Hey, Hey it's Conrad. There you go, Conrad Thompson. 404 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:11,559 Ever, thanks to everybody, Thank you all rights, please welcome my next 405 00:26:11,599 --> 00:26:27,240 guest, pro wrestling legend that Tommy rich Wildfi's that body doing. More more 406 00:26:27,279 --> 00:26:30,759 importantly, how are you doing up an old man? I'm doing good. 407 00:26:32,279 --> 00:26:34,960 Are you an old man? Your hair looks spectacular today as an old man. 408 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,160 You're looking good, Tommy, I feel good. Where are you living 409 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:44,279 these days? Myrtle Beach. That's the fucking place to live. Let's have 410 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,559 some good medicine there. What what made you? You're not? Are you 411 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,240 not? Are you a Myrtle Beach man? Through and through? From Where 412 00:26:49,279 --> 00:26:52,960 were you born? I was born in Nashville, and then of course had 413 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,759 to run in Atlanta, lived there about thirty years, and uh went dawn. 414 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,799 The Myrtle Beach friend lives there and he had a condo there, and 415 00:27:02,319 --> 00:27:06,599 we went down state a few times. And my wife mother lives in Charleston, 416 00:27:06,759 --> 00:27:10,759 so we just said it puts her close to her, far enough away, 417 00:27:10,839 --> 00:27:12,880 but close enough she can go visit. Yeah. I feel like when 418 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:17,039 you hear stories about wrestlers, they're like, oh, I would travel to 419 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,279 Hawaii and then you know, go to Japan, and then it's just like, 420 00:27:19,319 --> 00:27:22,880 why aren't I living in Hawaii? And they do. So I feel 421 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,319 that's like, oh, maybe you were a Myrtle Beach man. Was there 422 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,519 a Myrtle Beach wrestling scene? Well? I had the guy that had to 423 00:27:30,599 --> 00:27:33,920 condo. I hope to wrastling school up there for about a year, and 424 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:38,039 of course that was a tourist town and it didn't work out. We went 425 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,160 home and they had condo opened up, and I enjoyed my time down there. 426 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,799 We had a house down there. But uh, we're pretty close to 427 00:27:45,839 --> 00:27:49,200 the beach. But when you were I mean traveling the territories, was there 428 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:53,839 ever like Wednesday nights in Myrtle Beach? Oh no, no, I've never 429 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,200 never been. As a matter of fact, never rastled in Myrtle Beach too 430 00:27:57,319 --> 00:28:00,359 much. I rastled a couple of times there for rocket. Uh. But 431 00:28:00,759 --> 00:28:04,119 like I said, my wife was from there, I mean Charleston said. 432 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,279 It was a good connection for her. And uh we bought a conduct Uh 433 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:14,920 COVID hit. We bought it and and uh anyway, COVID hit and the 434 00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:18,240 plan was to move there later. But anyway, so we sold the house 435 00:28:18,279 --> 00:28:22,240 in Atlanta and moved to Myrtle Beach. All right, well, uh, 436 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,200 you're doing great. It looks like you're doing great. Let's talk a little 437 00:28:25,279 --> 00:28:30,279 wrestling, Yes, sir um, how you liking Do you like wrestling? 438 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,839 I still love it today. Brother, Now I've been so blessed man. 439 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:41,079 Uh you know, shoot, I started in nineteen seventy five and and God's 440 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,640 good man, you know, he's uh put me in some of the greatest 441 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,319 angles it's ever been done. You know, very blessed with that, and 442 00:28:48,759 --> 00:28:52,000 uh, shoot, I still love it. I still love coming to see 443 00:28:52,039 --> 00:28:55,920 the fans and stuff. I mean, you know, you had a lot 444 00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,720 of success very early in your career. Like were they were they there to 445 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,799 help you or did you did you see a lot of like people like hindering 446 00:29:03,839 --> 00:29:07,680 the idea that here's a young guy getting pushed. No, sir, no, 447 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:12,839 not a bit. I helped her body. I h superstar Bill Edy. 448 00:29:14,119 --> 00:29:18,480 Uh she Baron von RASKI said, I mean less stature. I mean 449 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,440 I got and back back when I started. Man, it didn't matter if 450 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,319 you was a main event or I was the main event. As long as 451 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:27,880 we put asses in the seat. We knew he was gonna get paid, 452 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,200 you know, and you had to put ashes in the seat, you know. 453 00:29:32,359 --> 00:29:34,599 Said it was different, but uh, like I said, kemp tear 454 00:29:34,759 --> 00:29:38,279 and just guys like that, they could I eat my lunch? Uh? 455 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,759 They took me, putting me under their wing and never looked back. I 456 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:47,039 mean, it's it's kind of like dancing, and I got to dance with 457 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,319 the best dancers. You know, all the rest of us will always say 458 00:29:49,319 --> 00:29:52,599 they got like tested in a way, uh, you know, to see 459 00:29:52,599 --> 00:29:56,799 if these guys can this guy can hang, if he's ready for a big 460 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,720 push. Did you ever have a tester or anyone kind of rough you up 461 00:30:00,759 --> 00:30:02,720 a little bit, just kind of to know that you're ready to go? 462 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,839 Now, when I first started, of course, it's you know, back 463 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,880 then it was you know, I mean, guys like lessay, it's pretty 464 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,599 stiff anyway, you know, I mean, it just it was a solid 465 00:30:12,759 --> 00:30:15,119 you know. I mean, I'm not saying they ain't stiff today because I 466 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,960 don't know. I don't wrestle in the day's world. But back there, 467 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,319 I mean, but it was just business. I mean, you know, 468 00:30:22,359 --> 00:30:25,440 it's kind of like a magic trick. Back then. You want to if 469 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,839 people didn't believe, they wouldn't buy a ticket to come see it. They 470 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,440 believed, you know. I mean, it's kind of like a magic trick. 471 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,799 You go see a magic trick one hundred times, want you to know 472 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,960 how they do it? Then it ain't quite as good, you know, 473 00:30:37,119 --> 00:30:41,680 I mean, and That's that's the ear I come from. That's uh, 474 00:30:41,799 --> 00:30:44,480 you know, I mean the Funx, the brisk Goes. You know. 475 00:30:44,519 --> 00:30:47,640 I watched them, of course in Tennessee where I used to go, the 476 00:30:47,839 --> 00:30:53,160 Fargoes, Jackie Fargo. I'm Charlotte Roughhouse Fargo. He had papers Jackie bring 477 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:57,440 him in watching twice a year out of the nuthouse. But people eat it 478 00:30:57,559 --> 00:31:03,079 up, you know when you were in Memphis. Yeah, like what was 479 00:31:03,319 --> 00:31:07,720 your loops like in Memphis? She would do Memphis on Monday night. Tuesday 480 00:31:07,799 --> 00:31:12,240 be Louisville, Kentucky. Wednesday would be h Evansville, Indiana. Then Thursday 481 00:31:12,279 --> 00:31:15,279 would be a spot show. Friday he would be a spot show that Sarah 482 00:31:15,319 --> 00:31:19,200 do you do Memphis TV? Then go to Jonesboro, Arkansas. And then 483 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,480 we had Sunday off back then. Of course they learned Sunday is a good 484 00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:26,720 day too now, so then he's working seventeen times a week, you know. 485 00:31:26,319 --> 00:31:29,920 So but it's uh, you know, and you had to put the 486 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,039 asses in them seats every week, you know. I mean we was in 487 00:31:33,119 --> 00:31:36,640 the same town week after week, and and you didn't you don't get you 488 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,440 didn't get no time off. I mean we ran fifty two weeks a year, 489 00:31:40,599 --> 00:31:44,160 and that's correct me. If I'm wrong, is that Jerry Jared and 490 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,440 Lawlor they switching the book? Is that? Yeah? That was Jerry. 491 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,359 Of course, Jerry jareds one to give me the opportunity. He used to 492 00:31:51,359 --> 00:31:56,880 come watch me play football. I knew Eddie Marland. He Jerry jarried married 493 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,480 Eddie Marlin's daughter, And so I got into it that way and then told 494 00:32:00,519 --> 00:32:02,480 yo, y'allamoto and like I said, Jackie Fargn help me a lot, 495 00:32:04,119 --> 00:32:07,359 and and just uh, just very blessed. I made it. Just all 496 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:12,440 the guys and and infest the wrestling fans I made they took a liking to 497 00:32:12,599 --> 00:32:15,640 me, and all the guys did too. I meane, like I said, 498 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,599 if we was drawing money by everybody was happy. Yeah. And you 499 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,839 said like, hey, this is only successful if we were making money and 500 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,839 putting asses in seats. So if you like, how does it work for 501 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:30,039 you at that time? Are you like pitching ideas or are you getting ideas 502 00:32:30,119 --> 00:32:31,559 just told to you and you'll do them the best that you can, Like, 503 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,680 if you had something creative in your mind, are you going to somebody? 504 00:32:35,759 --> 00:32:37,319 Are you going, oh yeah, holy holy, I talked to Holy 505 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,839 or um. You know, but back then I made Holy was a great 506 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,599 book. Or you know. I didn't like him very much, but he 507 00:32:44,759 --> 00:32:51,559 was a good business way. Somebody didn't like Holy Anderson, but you know 508 00:32:51,759 --> 00:32:54,279 I made it just uh. And I got a good break in Tennessee and 509 00:32:54,319 --> 00:32:58,960 I learned there. I stayed in Tennessee for about two years and then got 510 00:32:59,039 --> 00:33:04,000 the opportunity to go to Atlanta. And in the first night that I was 511 00:33:04,079 --> 00:33:08,079 there, my drawl Jerry. Jerry tell me said, kid, if you 512 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,559 get down there and don't like it, he said, call me because he's 513 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,359 one that got me booked down there. I said, guest, sir, 514 00:33:14,799 --> 00:33:17,640 And uh so I got down there. It's Friday night at the Atlanta City 515 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:22,640 Auditorium. I had me a long road made. I thought, I just 516 00:33:22,799 --> 00:33:25,920 cool, my mom, come down, my little brother. And uh after 517 00:33:27,079 --> 00:33:30,000 WI beat my ass and busting my head in thirty seconds, Tony Adlers saved 518 00:33:30,039 --> 00:33:34,079 me. I thought, damn, I might need to call Jerry Jerry, 519 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,279 but I sucked it up state and uh, you know the rest is history 520 00:33:37,359 --> 00:33:40,759 will tell me the process of going from Tennessee to Georgia. So you said, 521 00:33:40,839 --> 00:33:45,039 Jerry got you there? Uh, so what does that mean. Does 522 00:33:45,079 --> 00:33:47,279 that mean that he's like, I think you'll do better down there, or 523 00:33:47,319 --> 00:33:50,440 I need you to go. No, I just it was time for a 524 00:33:50,559 --> 00:33:53,400 challenge. I just you know, um, you're just time for me to 525 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,680 go somewhere, and you're okay being like, yep, I'll just move somewhere 526 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,160 else. Well I was was eighteen, Well by that time, I was 527 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,839 about nineteen. But you know, what's the nineteen year old, you know, 528 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,519 grown up person, you know, I mean it, And but that's 529 00:34:07,559 --> 00:34:10,679 business. That's the way the business was help I mean in wa it was 530 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,679 all over the country. It wasn't just one person running it. I mean 531 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:19,079 everybody there was a different territories. You had Geigole, Kansas City. I 532 00:34:19,159 --> 00:34:22,800 mean, you had Eddie Graham down in Florida, upon Eric's in Texas. 533 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,880 I mean, so there was somewhere for everybody to go, you know. 534 00:34:27,039 --> 00:34:30,880 I mean you'd learned, you'd say, I learned so much here in Tennessee, 535 00:34:31,039 --> 00:34:34,840 and then I got the opportunity. If I hadn't made it in Tennessee, 536 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,920 then I ever went to Florida. You know. And as long as 537 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:42,400 you got better at each one, didn't they passed the word down the line. 538 00:34:42,599 --> 00:34:45,119 Hey, this kid's got potential, you know. So so I was 539 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:50,360 very blessed man in seventeen. They had seemed a little young, corn bread, 540 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,800 skinny kid and they looking to big monsters and stuff. And I come 541 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,599 in there and and Jerry, Jerry, one thing he taught me was how 542 00:34:55,679 --> 00:35:00,400 to sell, and uh, I'd get my asswood, but I I wouldn't 543 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,159 give up. And uh and so it just you know, it wasn't very 544 00:35:04,199 --> 00:35:07,239 good. Then you sing going to different places kind of got me thinking. 545 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,719 I was just curious of like, um, kind of like the I don't 546 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:15,960 know if there's like the weirdest places or have you been to obscure countries or 547 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:20,159 obscure weird places that resident took you? No, I I was pretty much 548 00:35:20,159 --> 00:35:22,360 stay at home. I wanted Japan, that's about. I'm gonna did a 549 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,760 few trips over there. And uh, of course, first what time I 550 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:30,320 went, that's back. They didn't have nothing but to Shakey's Pizza and Tokyo 551 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:34,239 and uh, you went outside of town, there wasn't nothing there. And 552 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,960 I was there for six weeks and there was four guys. I mean, 553 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:42,199 you know, for a tiger jett sing and I didn't know none of them, 554 00:35:42,519 --> 00:35:45,320 So I pretty much for six weeks, I called my wife cry and 555 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,440 said I want to come home. And you know, I got through that 556 00:35:47,559 --> 00:35:51,800 third third week, it's really bad, and then you hit the fourth week, 557 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,440 you still want to go home, and then back by that fifth week, 558 00:35:54,519 --> 00:35:58,599 you know, you fix and makeup money, so then then it's then 559 00:35:58,679 --> 00:36:01,480 it's okay, you know, but it wouldn't mind, you know it h 560 00:36:01,599 --> 00:36:04,719 and slide. I wish I'd won a bunch more, and I did, 561 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,199 but you know, it is what it is. Yeah. I remember I 562 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,280 did my first tour of Japan in two thousand and five and all I had 563 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,800 was like a DVD player and there was an internet cafe, and I remember 564 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,119 being like, this is so crazy, how boring this is? Like in 565 00:36:17,199 --> 00:36:21,960 twenty nineteen when I was doing tours and look watching movies on my phone, 566 00:36:22,199 --> 00:36:24,880 but I wouldn't think back to like the eighties and the nineties of like what 567 00:36:25,119 --> 00:36:30,280 did these guys do? There was right in a foreign land, and you 568 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:31,199 know a lot of the answer was and I you know, I'm not saying 569 00:36:31,199 --> 00:36:34,440 this is you, but a lot of them they were like, well that's 570 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,000 why they all just partied all nights and then woke up and got to the 571 00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:40,519 gym and then by the time they were done, they were ready for the 572 00:36:40,559 --> 00:36:45,440 show and they just rinse. That's pretty much. Yet you'd go out, 573 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:51,119 which I like that going out part. Yeah, still even before an old 574 00:36:51,199 --> 00:36:55,039 man, I still like to go out. So my memories of you are 575 00:36:55,480 --> 00:37:02,280 WCW. Thomas Rich that's my memories and ECW with the full blooded Italians. 576 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,159 You know, first, that's probably one of my best times. I may 577 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,519 had had fun with it, you know what I'm saying. That was you 578 00:37:08,679 --> 00:37:12,719 know, no pressure, just get out, go do your thing, and 579 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,800 which was Thomas Rich. No, no, no, that was the big 580 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:23,199 die. So who fitched you the FBI idea? And um and did you 581 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,719 were I had imagine you were like, yeah, I'm down for anything. 582 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:30,280 But I don't know if you saw anything weird about it at first. Well, 583 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,119 my first question was just the bunny the same, right, and they 584 00:37:34,159 --> 00:37:36,480 said yeah. I said, I don't have problem with it at all. 585 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:38,599 You know. That was you know, I mean, we did some six 586 00:37:38,679 --> 00:37:42,960 mans and stuff, but uh, it was just it was fun. A 587 00:37:43,039 --> 00:37:46,480 great bunch of guys there, I thought. But I was first I was 588 00:37:46,599 --> 00:37:50,559 really glad because I'd see him. You know, if you're in a fight 589 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,320 somebody throws a chair at you, you're gonna blow yards. They stand there 590 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,039 and just blow up and you don't break it to you know, off a 591 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,559 damn make some bad ass boys right there. But uh, it was it 592 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,719 was good. I mean I had a two year run there, so it 593 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,079 was all good. Did you feel like a because they were like the rebels 594 00:38:08,119 --> 00:38:10,559 of wrestling at the time, did you feel like a kinship like, oh 595 00:38:10,639 --> 00:38:14,280 this was me when I was a kid. Oh yeah, oh yeah, 596 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,800 I fit right in, right, fit right in, wonderful. And then 597 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:21,519 WCW was just I mean, who was who did you go? Were you 598 00:38:21,559 --> 00:38:25,519 there through all the weird changes and regimens? Well, I didn't know they 599 00:38:25,599 --> 00:38:30,480 was selling the business at the time, and U Jim Crock had come in 600 00:38:30,559 --> 00:38:32,920 and he said, some of you have a job someone I just bought it 601 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,519 and I had a bunch of friends you know that worked there. So we 602 00:38:37,679 --> 00:38:40,000 got off and then he told me a thund about Patterson. Everybody else was 603 00:38:40,039 --> 00:38:44,480 flying up on the plane. He told me a thunderboat drive. I don't 604 00:38:44,519 --> 00:38:47,280 think thunderboat win, and I know I didn't go. So we both missed 605 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:52,000 TV and we both was fired. So anyway, he is what it is 606 00:38:52,400 --> 00:39:00,480 right there and then and then as the career wound down, were you okay 607 00:39:00,559 --> 00:39:04,199 with that at the time as you stopped kind of wrestling? Uh? Do 608 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,440 you feel like? Help me explain how I, as a forty three year 609 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,239 old man, can get used to the idea of like wrestling is gonna go 610 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,960 away from me and pretty soon, you know, I don't know, I'm 611 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:19,119 wrestling tonight. Oh you are? I still but I still love it. 612 00:39:19,199 --> 00:39:22,519 I mean, lord knows, I can't do what I did back to them, 613 00:39:22,559 --> 00:39:23,880 but I still love it and I love it, you know, just 614 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:28,639 going and socializing with the fans too. I still love that. So it's 615 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,119 been a good ride for me. Man. So the retirement, the o 616 00:39:31,159 --> 00:39:36,920 woult of ring retirement wasn't that hard. Just no, I enjoyed this like 617 00:39:37,199 --> 00:39:39,159 like this, it's a big thing. So you know, like I said, 618 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,480 I can't do much, but I like to get in there and still 619 00:39:42,519 --> 00:39:45,960 try to entertain. Hell. Yeah, now I'll ask do you have any 620 00:39:45,079 --> 00:39:52,880 plugs? You're easy points to it. I'm assuming you're not at the internet. 621 00:39:53,039 --> 00:39:57,199 Happy man. No, No, my wife does all that all right. 622 00:39:58,519 --> 00:40:01,679 Just Hey, the main lug is and What keeps us thriving is all 623 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:06,239 these folks out of here, man, and God bless every one of them. 624 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,119 That's it. That's that's that's my thing, man, God bless him. 625 00:40:09,199 --> 00:40:23,360 Time to rich everybody hand all right, please welcome to the stage. 626 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:37,000 My next guests. Let's stature the Hall of Fame. Yeah, it took 627 00:40:37,039 --> 00:40:42,280 me sixty three years to good here. It's been a long uphill true. 628 00:40:42,559 --> 00:40:45,280 Well, great to see you, thanks for coming. Are you uh still 629 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:49,840 in Ohio? Man? Well, I'm living in Knoxville, Tennessee right now. 630 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,639 You have left Ohio? Well I just kicked it. No, yeah, 631 00:40:53,159 --> 00:40:57,239 yeah, Well, you know a family that's home, you know, 632 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,760 grew up there, but all my family moved on. My daughter and her 633 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:06,159 husband have a farm about an hour and a half north of Columbus, Ohio. 634 00:41:06,519 --> 00:41:10,639 And I'm not a farmer. My son and my grandson are in Knoxville, 635 00:41:12,079 --> 00:41:17,000 and he runs two lots that so storage buildings in cardboards. So I 636 00:41:17,079 --> 00:41:22,480 thought I'd rather sell carpords and storage buildings in farm. Plus, I had 637 00:41:22,519 --> 00:41:27,199 a history in Knoxville. We we had a hell of a run in Knoxville 638 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,840 from the late sixties right into the early eighties. Are you waiting. Are 639 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:37,000 you still selling? What are you still working? Not unlike Tommy, I 640 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:42,519 am not on the car tonight. No, no cardboard like well I would, 641 00:41:42,679 --> 00:41:45,199 I would rather be doing something in this business. But yeah, just 642 00:41:45,039 --> 00:41:50,920 I can still train. I'm taking any bumps or anything but helping my son 643 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,760 out, you know. And actually all the years in the business, I 644 00:41:54,880 --> 00:42:00,239 was just having fun. Right now I'm working. It's a real job. 645 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,920 Nine was going to say, you've been in the wrestling industry for so long 646 00:42:04,199 --> 00:42:08,119 making a business, getting by one thing I've always been just uh, I 647 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:13,719 thought so highly and like akin to me is uh, you're a hustler, 648 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,280 right, would it self? Admittedly I would admit that, Yes, I'm 649 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:20,039 trying all the time. We are you talking about the length of my career 650 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,719 As of this past July the fourth was the sixty third anniversary of my first 651 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:30,639 match in Blue Hills, made in nineteen sixty amazing, it amazes me, 652 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:37,320 probably worn it, but I'm gonna like, I'm gonna get back to my 653 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:43,119 hustler point. Um, okay, well it's just like from what so when 654 00:42:43,159 --> 00:42:45,199 I started in wrestling in nineteen ninety nine, you know, like I would, 655 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:49,039 you were always doing something. It was always like when I started, 656 00:42:49,559 --> 00:42:52,599 of course, the legendary MTV show, so I knew you were at HWA 657 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,320 and then you moved on to something else, and you always had something going. 658 00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:00,679 But I from knowing you and talking other people, like, I feel 659 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:05,599 like even in like the seventies, and I think someone told me about like 660 00:43:05,639 --> 00:43:07,760 a T shirt thing, you had going, Like you you always had some 661 00:43:08,039 --> 00:43:12,440 kind of side wrestling hustle plan, which I always appreciate you no, and 662 00:43:12,519 --> 00:43:15,519 it never had any of its plan, to be quite honest, it was 663 00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:20,000 just the opportunity presented itself, right, But your brain said, like, 664 00:43:20,199 --> 00:43:22,960 I'm going to take advantage of this op try to anyway. Yeah, I'm 665 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,880 not saying I'm gonna make this work, but let's see if we can. 666 00:43:27,039 --> 00:43:30,639 You know. But the T shirt thing, Jack and Jerry Briscoe and I 667 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:34,840 were sitting around drinking a beer, just talking about life in general and Jerry's 668 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,519 apartment in Charlotte, right, and as you know, the T shirt thing. 669 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:42,360 I got crazy with bands and everything back into sixties, and I'm thinking 670 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:46,360 in nineteen seventy two, hey, maybe maybe faces right, it's still cafe, 671 00:43:46,559 --> 00:43:51,000 but maybe faces should be able sl T shirts. So I had mentioned 672 00:43:51,039 --> 00:43:53,119 this to a couple of promoters about, hey, this might be an avenue 673 00:43:53,199 --> 00:43:55,880 to pursue, and they never said it. They thought it was bad. 674 00:43:55,960 --> 00:44:00,760 They just weren't interested, right, So I was kind of venting that frustration 675 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,679 to Jack and Jerry, and Jack said, well, let's do it. 676 00:44:04,199 --> 00:44:06,119 What do you mean, well, the three of us, we all three 677 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,360 throw in a third of the money and we'll try it. Okay, so 678 00:44:08,559 --> 00:44:13,840 we okay, let's do it. So we came up with the Briscoe Booster 679 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:19,280 T shirt. That was kind of my idea. But young upstart of the 680 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,960 name of Jerry Lawler did the artwork. He charged me absorbing twenty five dollars 681 00:44:22,039 --> 00:44:24,320 for penny drawing, and I wish I had it now. So it's in 682 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,719 my here for three or four I was gonna ask if you have any of 683 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:32,480 those sitting around? Well there your company is reproducing. Yeah, the Briscoe 684 00:44:32,519 --> 00:44:36,320 Booster T shirt, right, But I want to know those originals. I 685 00:44:37,039 --> 00:44:40,280 wish I had a whole box something me and Conrad wants in our collection. 686 00:44:40,559 --> 00:44:45,559 Well, Conrad, you can buy me. We got to find those original 687 00:44:45,679 --> 00:44:49,360 T shirts. That's amazing. I wish I wish we could. Yeah, 688 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,239 true, but you know, nobody, we had no idea. We weren't 689 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,840 entrepreneurs. We were wrestlers, right, and nobody thought it's going to take 690 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,760 off. The first place we sold, Jerry and I loaned in the car, 691 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,239 went to Fedville North Airline. We were kidding about it. Obviously. 692 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:06,360 Years later, maybe we invented a gimmick table. You know, back then 693 00:45:07,079 --> 00:45:10,679 the only product that a wrestler had was an eight coussiate by ten black and 694 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,639 white you could sell for a buck and sign it. We'd paid ten cents 695 00:45:14,639 --> 00:45:16,280 a piece for those things, so you didn't need a table for that, 696 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:20,199 you know, give it to some kid into matches. But you got all 697 00:45:20,199 --> 00:45:22,519 these T shirts. We got to have someplace to put them, so we 698 00:45:22,599 --> 00:45:24,519 asked the people avocal, we have a table. So we piled these T 699 00:45:24,639 --> 00:45:30,159 shirts up, and you know the old sales pitch that things are flying off 700 00:45:30,199 --> 00:45:35,039 the shelves. People were buying these stick their lined up and Jerry's this is 701 00:45:35,119 --> 00:45:37,320 good. I said, it's no, it's great, all right. But 702 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:42,119 the thing of it was, as it grew again, we were not entrepreneurs 703 00:45:42,199 --> 00:45:45,760 like somebody I know named called Cabana. And that's a compliment my friend. 704 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:52,280 So there wasn't enough profit margin built in that once the promoters, I mean 705 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,079 the building are obviously going to take a piece, right, and the ones 706 00:45:55,119 --> 00:45:58,920 that had the big percentage, we just didn't hit because we didn't end that 707 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,800 build in. And then these promoters didn't anything to do with it. Saw 708 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,639 what it was doing. Now they want a piece of it. Right, 709 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,159 We were selling these shirts of three dollars and fifty cents a piece. Right, 710 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,119 you could buy any cohor you want as long as they're black white with 711 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:16,559 black let it. So what we did was it just we couldn't, you 712 00:46:16,599 --> 00:46:20,000 know. And the three of us still had a career at wrestling, career 713 00:46:20,039 --> 00:46:22,880 in front of us. Right when I went down to Atlanta to work with 714 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,320 Gordon during the war in seventy three and seventy four on the TV and in 715 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:30,920 the office to help out Wait hold On during the Wait What Atlanta the War 716 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:36,559 the Wrestling War in seventy three, seventy three and seventy four, and uncle's 717 00:46:36,679 --> 00:46:40,559 husband died. He was one of the owners George Championship Wrestling Buddy Fuller, 718 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,400 and those guys didn't want to share with her and buy around, so she 719 00:46:45,559 --> 00:46:51,880 started her own promotion. So the crazy thing. In the midst of that, 720 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,760 Tommy had mesh of the old Atlanta Auditorium. Right, we sold it 721 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,400 out on Friday night. They sold it out on Tuesday. We sold it 722 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,280 out on Friday. Any So for a couple of years that that's the way 723 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:06,199 it ran, right. But but when I went down there, I had 724 00:47:06,199 --> 00:47:08,119 to get a two bedroom apartment. But I only need one the other bedrooms 725 00:47:08,159 --> 00:47:13,039 for T shirts. And I said to Jack and Jerry, I don't intend 726 00:47:13,119 --> 00:47:15,960 to go around the country carrying a truck floaded T shirts. Right. So 727 00:47:16,159 --> 00:47:22,360 anyway, my dad built some shelving in the garage in the house in Cincinnati, 728 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,840 so they started hamm them. We finished it out a mail order, 729 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,800 right. But I teased Jerry, I said, with all the T shirts 730 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,280 sales to day, if we could just get one percent of the net every 731 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:34,960 week where we build a castle, right, I mean, it's become that 732 00:47:35,119 --> 00:47:38,000 kind of business. But yeah, we kicked it off. But that's so 733 00:47:38,119 --> 00:47:43,239 cool that you maybe invented the gimmick table. I love that you did say 734 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,440 like that, Oh but those promoters, And I was like, yeah, 735 00:47:45,519 --> 00:47:49,440 those damn promoters. But then, uh, you're you became a promoter. 736 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,400 I'm you know I've done everything. We get rich in this business. It's 737 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:59,599 a little late for rich. So I mean, like, would you tell 738 00:47:59,679 --> 00:48:00,800 me, I mean, tell me about it, Like the idea of transferring 739 00:48:01,039 --> 00:48:05,000 from a promoter, from a wrestler to a promoter, and like if you 740 00:48:05,079 --> 00:48:07,639 were like at first, like I'm going to make sure everyone gets paid, 741 00:48:07,679 --> 00:48:10,039 and then were you like I'm looking to get paid. Did you have these 742 00:48:10,119 --> 00:48:14,320 kind of conversations in your own head? No, not really, because I'd 743 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,920 been down that road so much as a wrestler, right. So, and 744 00:48:17,119 --> 00:48:22,440 you know the crazy thing is, I would almost guess, looking back then 745 00:48:22,519 --> 00:48:27,800 in the sixties and seventies, if every promoter they had first count on the 746 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,880 ticket, so they took a little off the top. It was just common 747 00:48:31,199 --> 00:48:36,639 practice, right, So Okay, you just moved on and got your share 748 00:48:36,679 --> 00:48:39,400 and hoped it was better than you're suspected. Right, So it was. 749 00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:45,800 I never considered myself a promoter as such. Right. I started doing this 750 00:48:45,199 --> 00:48:49,559 when I was nineteen years old, and I can see here today at age 751 00:48:49,599 --> 00:48:52,599 eighty two and tell you I am still in love with the wrestling business. 752 00:48:52,679 --> 00:48:55,559 It is my passion, it is who I am, it's what I do, 753 00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,519 and it's when I die, I hope that somebody'll say, hey, 754 00:49:00,559 --> 00:49:05,320 he was a wrestler. Yeah. Uh. Now, since you say you're 755 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:09,119 eighty two, tell me, I can't imagine you really care. Tell me 756 00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:15,760 how much money you got from WWF? Uh? Like? So hwa was 757 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,360 the feeder system for for WWF? Like? What was the deals were? 758 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,000 What were you getting? Like? Who were they sending you? How did 759 00:49:22,079 --> 00:49:24,719 you like work that into like profit margins? If that makes sense? Well, 760 00:49:25,559 --> 00:49:30,119 not only did developmental guys, right, but then they would let me 761 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,519 have maybe four or five of the guys off the main roster who needed a 762 00:49:34,599 --> 00:49:37,559 break up there, right, So I would have them day d H with 763 00:49:37,599 --> 00:49:40,159 the developmental guys. And as you know, I'm having working for me young 764 00:49:40,559 --> 00:49:45,159 earlier in your career, some of the guys I trained were damn good country 765 00:49:45,199 --> 00:49:47,159 wrestlers. A guy named my Nige. When we get us, you might 766 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:52,079 say he was a fair hand, sure right, Matt Striker yep, VJ. 767 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,440 Whitmer, Pepper Parks I just saw yesterday. Yeah, I told him 768 00:49:55,440 --> 00:50:00,360 I was seeing you good. Yeah, and shark boys sharp pepper parts. 769 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,679 I said, I'm gonna see lesson who's now the blade for these? Yes? 770 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,400 The Blade, you guys. Yeah, if the Blade is a tremendous 771 00:50:07,639 --> 00:50:09,519 he's a tremendous guy and a hell of a worker. So what was the 772 00:50:09,599 --> 00:50:14,519 deal they were were they paying you money to oh yeah, okay, well 773 00:50:14,599 --> 00:50:20,639 before them and how much for their paying But before them? Uh? I. 774 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,800 The crazy thing was Bruce Pritchey came to me and said, you know, 775 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:29,760 we expanded developmental and so we talked about it and came up with kind 776 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,320 of a working plan he saw. I'll get back to you. So I'm 777 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,639 if anybody knows me, if you tell me we're gonna do something coat and 778 00:50:36,679 --> 00:50:38,960 you're gonna go take a nap, I'm already started doing what are we doing 779 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,280 and how we're gonna do it? And how's it gonna be best. That's 780 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,639 a hustler mentality. By the way, Yes, I apologize for being a 781 00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:50,559 hustler, but I don't mean to step in on your terry like you no. 782 00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,760 But I'm saying like oh you saying that, It's like, oh, 783 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:57,039 that's how my mind works. Okay, I get it. But so you 784 00:50:57,159 --> 00:51:00,199 know, I'm lining up place to the guys stay to come in right and 785 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:05,239 trying to figure it all out. And then I'm talking to what. Terry 786 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:09,400 Taylor was still with WW at the time, and I said, are we 787 00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:14,360 going to do this and finalize it or what? He went to Vince and 788 00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,719 he said, hey, let's just doing this. And well we get around 789 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:22,880 to it. Okay, the phone rings and Gary Juter from WCW calls me. 790 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,639 He said, I think somebody in Connecticut's been reading our MAO. And 791 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:28,159 I said, what you're talking about? He said, well, JJ and 792 00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:32,840 I were talking and we would like you to expand our developmental system with you. 793 00:51:35,519 --> 00:51:37,360 And I have you signed a content? I said, no, I 794 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,000 don't even have a contract to sign. Don't sign anything. Do you talk 795 00:51:40,039 --> 00:51:45,679 to us? So they flew me into Atlanta and into the building and basically 796 00:51:46,079 --> 00:51:50,679 sent let me down and introduced me to everybody and walked me through the operation 797 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:54,960 and said if you had a dream, what would it be for your company? 798 00:51:55,039 --> 00:51:59,480 And he said, t shirts, I said, I want to be 799 00:51:59,599 --> 00:52:04,800 like hold Commandah. So, uh, you know, I told him what 800 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,320 I thought it would take, you know, to put my operation up a 801 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:13,440 level, and okay, let's do it. So I signed with them, 802 00:52:13,599 --> 00:52:16,960 right, and of course what I nobody told me and what was none of 803 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:21,400 my business actually the time, but they were rupturing money because of the company, 804 00:52:21,519 --> 00:52:24,199 you know. But I could tell too except for JJ or Terry Taylor 805 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:28,639 was there at the time and the guys that I knew from inside to business. 806 00:52:29,039 --> 00:52:32,519 A lot of the management people were embarrassed to be there wrestling and I 807 00:52:32,559 --> 00:52:36,239 won't be a part of it. And I think that's part of the downfall. 808 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,760 So you signed with wcw WC, but it never happened or it didn't. 809 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,679 Oh no, it did happen right away. Part of you want to 810 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,519 talk about a part of that deal. I got a twenty foot box truck, 811 00:52:45,559 --> 00:52:51,280 which you've seen right, I got the WCW ring et cetera, et 812 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:57,280 cetera, bonus to sign and guard rails and so HWA was a WCW it 813 00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:02,519 was w and then h w C closed. Well when WC W uh well, 814 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,840 before they went under, I was the newest guy on the block. 815 00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:12,559 So they canceled me Jay Hark. Let me know, hang on because when 816 00:53:12,599 --> 00:53:15,800 we get around, we're gonna bring in And that did happen, and that 817 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,480 did happen. Yeah, so there was a little down time in between there. 818 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,079 But yeah, so that I've actually been a trainer for both companies. 819 00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,920 Right, yeah, that's a h w A a true success story and uh 820 00:53:27,079 --> 00:53:29,360 you know those and I was gonna say, those guys are there's still there's 821 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:34,199 still you know within our wrestling community. Like I just said, you know 822 00:53:34,639 --> 00:53:37,239 a Blade and Nigel and and they're still there. And so that's your you 823 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,800 know when you say when I go on, you know, people to remember 824 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,320 me as a wrestler, and it's like they're living there, you know, 825 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,280 passing well. You know, actually, if you look, the guys are 826 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:52,480 Jamie Noble, my Fingerprints and Shannon Moore and uh, oh my god, 827 00:53:53,920 --> 00:54:00,360 currently Adam Cole, Johnny Gargano, Drew Goolock or guys that I've worked with. 828 00:54:00,599 --> 00:54:04,360 You know, it amazes me sometimes when I look, I had something 829 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,480 to do with this. You know, you just do it and you don't 830 00:54:07,519 --> 00:54:12,760 really stop to look behind. Mike Mooningham did a three part column, a 831 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,519 newspaper column about me coming here, and after I read and I said, 832 00:54:16,679 --> 00:54:21,360 damn, I'm tired. I didn't realize I'd done so much. Yeah, 833 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,400 right, but you know, wrestling is my life. It's who I am, 834 00:54:24,519 --> 00:54:28,920 it's what I do, it's what I love, and I'd rather be 835 00:54:29,039 --> 00:54:30,159 here in any place. I'll tell you. Yeah, let's that you. 836 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:42,679 Everybody, Thank you, thank you, remember thanking? All right, we 837 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,800 have one more special guests before we get out of air. I want to 838 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:52,440 make this an annual art of wrestling tradition. As we bring to our closer 839 00:54:52,280 --> 00:55:02,960 my friend and yours Rock Riddle, everybody, Rock right, the man the 840 00:55:04,159 --> 00:55:08,559 myth Rack. I'm going to hand you a microphone and you're gonna talk until 841 00:55:08,639 --> 00:55:14,360 they kick us out of this building. He likes to stand us. Let 842 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,559 the building, you know, and the banners fly. Feast your eyes on 843 00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:22,079 him. Is too good to be true, but he's actually here. We 844 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,760 have their attention. This is great. Thank you, Rack. Do you 845 00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:30,480 want to interview me? Do you want me to just start talking? It's 846 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,159 being a man of very I'm about to answer that question. And then he 847 00:55:34,199 --> 00:55:40,400 just started talking. He hesitated before he answered. So, and as unaccustomed 848 00:55:40,599 --> 00:55:45,119 as I am to public speaking, I would just like to say thank you 849 00:55:45,639 --> 00:55:50,960 for the amazing opportunity to be standing next to one of my heroes. When 850 00:55:51,039 --> 00:55:54,079 I was a little kid, I watched this man on television and I said, 851 00:55:55,079 --> 00:55:59,239 he's pretty good for a wrastler. But if I grew up in b 852 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,880 a restaurant be a lots better. Wow. And now we look back on 853 00:56:02,079 --> 00:56:06,880 history and we see that you and I have actually met in the ring. 854 00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:15,519 That's right. Yeah, I trained you at the time. I said, 855 00:56:15,559 --> 00:56:17,239 I'm going to give you a wrestling lesson. Yeah. No, but I 856 00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,960 did it to you and you paid me. Remember when you bade me five 857 00:56:21,079 --> 00:56:23,679 thousand dollars and I was gonna scam you, and then I left the country 858 00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:30,039 and then you came and you found me buzz sawyer style. I stopped payment 859 00:56:30,119 --> 00:56:31,199 on the check. He did, he did, but I still, you 860 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,320 know, I got to take you know, I got the idea that I 861 00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,440 did scam you, and you're not easily scammed Rock, that's true. Yeah. 862 00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,599 Are you going to ask me questions? Or do you just want to 863 00:56:39,599 --> 00:56:44,960 sit down and let me take over? You choose? Ask me questions? 864 00:56:45,119 --> 00:56:50,280 Okay, Rock? Yes? How when was your first match? What year? 865 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:52,960 What year? I'm not going to tell you what year. I was 866 00:56:52,039 --> 00:57:00,440 born in July twelve, nineteen seventy three, so it had to be you're 867 00:57:00,519 --> 00:57:06,119 laughing because you don't believe I'm not old. Do you celebrated that Big five? 868 00:57:06,199 --> 00:57:08,599 Oh this year? Oh my gosh? And when I did I said 869 00:57:08,639 --> 00:57:13,199 to my friends, and I actually have a few. I said, No 870 00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,320 one's going to believe I'm that old. I'm going to start lying about my 871 00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:19,960 age. I just haven't started doing that yet. We'll get you there. 872 00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,159 Did you ever think you would like be this age? Fifty years old? 873 00:57:23,519 --> 00:57:25,960 Do I have a what? Did you ever think you would be fifty years 874 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:30,760 old? No? I thought when on my thirtieth birthday. I grew up 875 00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:35,920 in a little town in North Carolina and there was a water tower in the 876 00:57:36,079 --> 00:57:38,199 middle of the street. The cars would go around it, and I thought, 877 00:57:38,599 --> 00:57:44,079 on my thirtieth birthday, I would jump off of that tower and commit 878 00:57:44,199 --> 00:57:47,920 suicide, because why in the world would anyone want to live past the age 879 00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:53,280 of thirty. Remember, don't trust anyone over thirty. Yes, I knew 880 00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:57,920 that I would get some good suicide talk from Rock Riddle as I brought him 881 00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:04,760 up. Hey, if you want more, because my life has always been 882 00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,960 outside of the professional wrestling business, has been pretty private, and my book 883 00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:15,960 will be out probably within three months, two to three months I anticipated being 884 00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:22,519 out. You can remember the short title simply wonderful, and then the subtitle 885 00:58:22,639 --> 00:58:25,840 is something like no one listens to your podcast. I don't want anyone stealing 886 00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,760 in the idea. I do have it trademarked, and I do have it 887 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:37,199 registered with the writers Guilt of America West. The choice suicide, serial killer 888 00:58:37,519 --> 00:58:45,679 or legend. Welcome to the amazing universe of Rock Riddle and something like that. 889 00:58:45,119 --> 00:58:52,960 The most revealing, absolutely blatantly and brutally honest truth. And that includes 890 00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:58,280 everything. That includes the ups in my life the downs. A life is 891 00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:01,880 a series of challenges. Correct, correct, Thank you very much. I 892 00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:07,559 wanted you to say something. Yeah, remember the Hey, go ahead leave. 893 00:59:07,719 --> 00:59:10,400 This is the best part of the entire I love that Conrad Wine down 894 00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:17,559 on Rock, Honey, I can't stay here for there. I can't stand 895 00:59:17,719 --> 00:59:22,760 this guy. He's maggy and Karen Condas Indian, arrogant. He thinks he's 896 00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,639 better than we are. No, I don't, I know. I am. 897 00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:32,079 I was trying to get you an ad free show, Rock, but 898 00:59:32,159 --> 00:59:37,960 it didn't work. So anyway, that book will talk a lot about professional 899 00:59:38,039 --> 00:59:43,440 wrestling. We'll talk about people who inspired me, Like when I was a 900 00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:47,679 tiny little kid and I actually did watch one of my heroes, less Stature 901 00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:53,840 right there. I watched him and I said, yes, if he can 902 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:58,039 do that, I can do that, and I can use him as inspiration 903 00:59:58,159 --> 01:00:05,199 and motivation and a fantastic man he is. And Tommy Wildfire Rich has left 904 01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,800 the building. He's when you see him, tell him, Oh my gosh, 905 01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:13,159 you should have stayed. You could have. You can't believe what Rock 906 01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,599 Riddle had to say. He shared all this amazing information with us. I've 907 01:00:16,639 --> 01:00:22,559 got seventeen more stories. Don't you want to know the story of Rip Hawk 908 01:00:22,599 --> 01:00:27,119 and how I got involved in the business and a wonderful sport and the wonderful 909 01:00:27,159 --> 01:00:30,079 world a professional wrestling. Oh no, what anybody do? I do? 910 01:00:30,199 --> 01:00:32,400 I do? But I think it's amazing that you and the iron Cheek that 911 01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,159 you gave it to him and he didn't beat the funk out of you. 912 01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:39,119 That's amazing. Well, it's just like when you and I were in together. 913 01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:45,039 Yeah, you never knew all right, Rock Riddle, that's how we 914 01:00:45,199 --> 01:00:54,679 Yeah, thank you. I appreciate everybody here. Given up a rock one 915 01:00:54,719 --> 01:01:01,920 more time. He's the best. Thanks everybody. After this show, I'm 916 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,840 gonna wrap it up a little bit here. But after the show, where 917 01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,320 there's obviously a giant show down, there's a lot of the wrestlers. I'm 918 01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,840 gonna be at a table Colt Merge dot table, all of that fun stuff. 919 01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:15,119 Every year IPW puts on a great professional wrestling show, and so many 920 01:01:15,159 --> 01:01:16,400 great vendors down there, and people to meet and people to talk to. 921 01:01:16,559 --> 01:01:20,239 And you should make a friend here. We are in person, we are 922 01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,519 live. Make a wrestling friend while you were here. Before we get out 923 01:01:22,559 --> 01:01:28,719 of here, though, I'm gonna get into some plugs and coming. I 924 01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:32,239 love you all right. The best way to sport Patreon dot com, slash 925 01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:37,480 cole combanda to get all these ad free and some goodies. I'm on Twitch 926 01:01:37,559 --> 01:01:42,519 dot tv, slash Colt Cabana Socials are at Colt Cabana everywhere you're at Still 927 01:01:42,559 --> 01:01:46,280 on Twitter, although I feel it's a dying medium. Pwtlive dot com five 928 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:52,880 thirty pm Central Chicago. Time for a live shopping experience. Upcoming August fourth 929 01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,239 and fifth. I'm gonna be a Dreamwave Wrestling in LaSalle, Illinois. Two 930 01:01:55,360 --> 01:02:01,840 huge shows there. September ninth, the premiere streaming network. Freddie Prince Junior 931 01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:07,719 is becoming a promoter less. I'll send Freddie your way to learn the trade. 932 01:02:07,039 --> 01:02:10,199 That's in New Jersey, and then I'm you know, Every Wednesday, 933 01:02:10,559 --> 01:02:15,559 I'm backstage doing some good work with all elite wrestling. Sometimes I'll pop up 934 01:02:15,599 --> 01:02:20,519 on being the elite or beat or the shows. Keep your eye out for 935 01:02:20,679 --> 01:02:23,800 me. I want to give a hand one more time for my live studio 936 01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:30,000 audience here in Waterloo, Iowa. And let's thank our guest one more time. 937 01:02:30,159 --> 01:02:37,639 Conrad Thompson, Less Stature, Tommy Rich and of course the legend Rock 938 01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:39,719 Riddle. Can't wait to have you back next year. Thank you to the 939 01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:44,480 National Wrestling Hall of Fame and the people of ip W. Thank you to 940 01:02:44,599 --> 01:03:01,519 you for Cold Cabana. I'm Cold Cabana. Thanks alright, Hi, everybody, 941 01:03:01,559 --> 01:03:13,519 how you doing. I didn't say clap your feelings, I said how 942 01:03:13,559 --> 01:03:20,760 are you doing? Okay? Great, We're gonna do a podcast here. 943 01:03:22,039 --> 01:03:23,920 If you need to chit chat, please feel free to go outside. That's 944 01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:27,159 not the place to do it. We got a lot of fun guests coming 945 01:03:27,239 --> 01:03:30,840 up. I just want to make sure everything's recording. I'm gonna put some 946 01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:34,440 This will go up live on the internet. Anybody ever heard of the Internet. 947 01:03:36,039 --> 01:03:39,360 It's on computers now, so get used to it. It's a Simpsons 948 01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:45,079 reference. If anybody gets it. Okay, uh, let's see all right, 949 01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:50,880 what's gonna happen is uh, I'm gonna play. I'm not gonna play 950 01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:52,719 any music. I'll put it all in edits. So when I come on 951 01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:57,000 the stage or when I come this way, you're all gonna cheer, make 952 01:03:57,039 --> 01:04:00,760 some noise, and you're gonna pretend like you've never seen me. And now 953 01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:04,039 you've seen me and it's a great day. Is that? Okay? All 954 01:04:04,119 --> 01:04:16,440 right? Let me open this up. Rock Raydle? Is that rock Radle? 955 01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:31,559 Okay? Alright, you guys ready, all right, I'm gonna hide 956 01:04:31,559 --> 01:04:34,440 in this corner. And then when I announced me, you're gonna make some 957 01:04:34,679 --> 01:04:38,840 noise. Ladies and gentlemen called cabana