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Depressed? Beard's gone, but I'm depressed. I told you last night that
I think Game sevens. I don't know why. That isn't hockey more than
any other sport. It's just a perfect game. I don't it's it's it's
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I think a Devil's fan got knocked out in the stands. Was there is
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that's not nice. What did you wait what did your kids say.
I'm just jose Po is here. Jose Po is a council and for the
City of Rochester, and he handles the Northwest district, which is Charlotte right
Charlotte to uh four ninety Okay, from Lake Avenue to Maori Okay. So
uh And I would think the Maplewood neighborhood there's a history there wasn't there back
Not that you would know this necessarily you never saw this. I didn't either,
but I believe in the late eighteen hundreds there was a horse track up
in the Maplewood area, like a horse for the Kodak employees. For the
Kodak employees, they had everything. They had everything. You've seen the houses
over there, Yeah, they're gorgeous. Maype's amazing. Yeah, maybe it
was gorgeous. Oh man. There was only two areas in the city I
was looking to move into. It was either Shalot or Mapewood. That was
it, really Yeah, first houses I was looking at over on Lakeview Park.
You can actually see downtown and see the lake from up on the and
the attic there. Wow. Now, I remember I was looking for a
house and at the time my wife was very pregnant and we were living in
some small apartment and we went out and looked at a house right on the
lake. And I gotta tell you, the second floor, I mean it
was practically a roller coaster, the hallway, but they had just redone the
kitchen. It was gorgeous, and I knew it was going to meet a
lot of work, so I waived the inspection. I did everything, and
we still somebody had basically they countered the offered the original buyer and the other
couple wasn't coming back. They figured they were gonna walk away. So I
was like, Oh, we're gonna get this. And then that didn't know
this was right on the lake and not far from Charlotte of Edgemere. You
almost were a West Sider. Yeah, whoa before the flooding the East Yeah,
before the flooding afore you probably well before the flooding. Then you probably
lucked out. Yeah I had, I think I did. I think you're
right. I think you're absolutely right. How has that been? You know
what? Let's start here because I could ask you all these different questions and
I know will meander through this anything, but what is the jose Po story?
So how do you go from you know, a guy from I believe
you grew up in the area right then army for a little while, if
I remember, then into you were an entrepreneur, right you gotta ransom stores
and stuff and now finance and I mean all this stuff. God had me
going through the gauntlet. I was raised over on the northeast side, so
Strathmore Circle Avenue ce Conky. Um, we were born raised over in that
area. Um. Then we moved to a round to quit when my when
I was getting to the age of where we're going to school, Yeah,
and my parents are like, where you're not. You're not going to city
school district. So moved to a round to Quake. And when I graduated
straight into the military because I had no idea what I was gonna do,
no idea. All I knew was wrestling. That's all I did in high
school. I wrestled, and you know, nothing came in for a complete
scholarship. And I didn't know anything about school loans, think donness at that
time. So I joined the military, and I said, the only thing
I wanted to do was spy stuff. I wanted to do in military intel.
So I went to the military intel. I was stationed Korea South America,
had a great time, had an amazing time with some people that I'll
never forget and never lose touch with. Ye And when I got out,
I said, I'm moving right back to Rochester. But can I ask a
few questions about your time in the army depends, I'll let you know if
you can't. Okay, you said spy stuff you were interested in? Did
you do a lot of intel? Oh? Yeah, Now, my brother
in law, I'm no longer married, but my brother in law was in
charge of the Pacific Rim Okay for many years, overseeing in South Korea,
overseeing North Korea or whatever was being showing up. The guy he was a
West Point guy and then had gone into the military. So were you part
of all that? So I was there. Basically, I was with the
team that I was listening into what North Korea was doing. We were the
team that found the personal submarines that North Korea was using to come into South
America. I'm sorry South Korea when it happened, it was right after nine
to eleven. I was in nine to eleven. I'm sorry. I was
in Korea during nine to eleven, so everything got shut down. So our
North Korea got a little more ambitious with what they were trying to do.
We're trying to listen into what we were doing, and they were using little
personal submarines. Look it up. You can see it on Google now.
It was crazy because they changed up all their comms, changed up everything.
But I was I was a I was man. I killed it in the
military. I did really well. So and you you were you found that
do you speak more than one language? I do, but affluently. Okay,
what languages do you speak? Spanish? Just Spanish? Yeah, we
have we have linguistics that you know, we're listening to the other. Okay,
country, I didn't know if that was also you. And then you
went to South America's same kind of deal. South America. That was the
anti drug mission down there where it was the if you know anything about the
FARC down there, fa ARC, you can look them up. They're a
big time cocaine down in uh in Colombia. So we were doing a mission
on there because we had a plane, spy plane that went down and they
captured two of our special ops. I was the guy who told special ops
where to go. Okay, how was behind the computers? Did you want
to be a ranger or anything. No. Okay, I'm like, I'm
pretty bad as it was a quick answer. No. No, I knew
from the beginning that I wanted to use my brain because I was I was
really smart. Yeah, I say, was I am really smart? Yes,
not to put myself in a shoulder, but I knew to use my
brain to know who America right? Right? Everyone? Everyone plays their own
position. Yeah. I think I knew what I wanted to do, and
I went and did it. Yeah, that's great. So then you come
back, right, did you retire? No? I came back and I
wanted to open up my own businesses. So I said, let me go
to college, just get a marketing degree. So I figure out what I
can do, how to do it? Where you go Brockport. Okay,
Brockport before they had really strict guidelines because back then, I'm not quite sure
I could have made it in because I had a zero point zero one semester.
I was partying. I was partying hard. That means you didn't go
at all. I didn't. There's no way. Sometimes hanging out a second,
you could not have gotten a zero points. I got a zero point
zero, almost got kicked that out of school. He was hanging the disease.
Yeah, but I mean, how that's impossible. I'm I joined a
fraternity and one hundred points for putting your name on an sat. Don't they
give you something for showing up at point five? I didn't get that because
I probably had alcohol in my breath the entire time. Wow, okay,
it was it was a It was a good time. But certainly I was
in the mind frame of see Seese get decreased. I was like, I'm
going there. I'm gonna ope my own businesses anyway, so I don't care
about if I'm gonna, you know, get good grades. Um. But
of course, all that stuff is what you think about when you are in
politics. You think about the stuff, the stupid stuff you did in college.
You know, people might but here's the thing. It's like, okay,
and people might what my you know, my bringing stuff up from when
you were a different person before. You know, I don't like that,
but it's the way it is. You remember George Bush. They brought out
his pictures back from where you know, I'm sure the Santis when he was
in college. They brought his pictures that everyone they always bring pictures up.
Well, I have a real problem and I've talked about it on the podcast
where I feel as though, if the goal that we all want is for
people to evolve, right, to be better, right, we want you
to learn from your mistakes. That's not what they want. They say that,
Yeah, I know, but you understand like this idea of more acceptance,
more tolerance. So then we got to go back and we got it.
I'll tell you what, I am a bigger fan of the guys who
stand up to that stuff. You know. For example, the first one
that popped into my head Kevin Hart. Kevin Hart wrote a very anti it
was a very homophobic tweet about his kid or something, right, and we
had a whole joke about it a number of years prior. I think it
was like five years prior, just before he's about to do the Oscars,
and he apologized for it at the time, and they brought it up again
and he said, I'm not apologizing for it, and they goes, I'm
not doing the Oscars right because I don't need to. I don't need this,
I don't need this shit. Now, he's never done that stuff again,
he doesn't make those jokes, so he learned from the way we want
people to learn from. And I always say and people will probably sick of
hearing it. People say they have a drinking game for all the phrases.
But it's almost like, you know, in the Bible, you had Paul
who was a pretty nasty guy or saw and then he became Paul. Right,
why can't we where where is it? Why are we digging shit up
to rub your face in it? Like your ship on the rug like a
puppy dut you know what I'm saying. And Paul didn't ask for forgiveness.
Now Rice came to him and forced him to be a believer. Right,
I'm a big Bible I'm a big Bible reader. Okay, so I know
all the stories from a Bible. And the same thing you know with Moses.
Moses killed a guy and still led the people out of Egypt, So
you can have a pass. And actually God calls people with actually a checkered
past, that's usually who he calls to say, Look, I'm gonna use
you. Anyways, got co host here tonight, Well, I think that
atheist No, no, no, Our other host is yeah big oh,
yes, Yef. I've heard him. I've heard him before. So my
producer is a big atheist. So really he'll be talking, we'll be talking
on the podcast, and he'll he'll bring up things like oh no, no,
no, So we have a whole argument. Yeah, but there are
times where I feel like even the atheist, you know, push comes to
shove. You're only athist till you need to know that sort of the way.
Um, okay, So now you come back, you do Brockport,
you graduate graduate. Okay, So you pulled your stuff together. I did.
I did, Yeah, pull it together. Then I started as were
you when you went to college. When I went to college, I got
out of military. I was twenty three. Yeah, so a little bit
older yep, and graduated twenty seven. Okay, So but you probably figured
out like, hey man, I gotta I gotta do this. I got
an opportunity here, I'm going to do it right. Yeah. So my
cousin came to me, said, let's open up this h It was when
boost Mobile was first started come out, and we jumped in. We're the
first Boobile boost Mobile store to come out with her unlimited. Um. He
came to me and said, look, the people want this and they need
it, and and oh yeah. Yeah, we took over actually a page
store, and then we ended up buying out a competition. So I've been
in business for I mean since I was a kid, really, but that's
what I do now. Actually, my business now is helping other businesses to
grow, either by buying out the competition or you know, get some loan,
said build you get your equipment, build up. So all that I
learned from back then, everything I've gone through has always been bringing me to
the future. So I'm very thankful for all the nonsense I went through through,
all the you know, because I was I was also a homeless during
that time. Wait wait, yeah, jumped into that one real quickly.
Where were you homeless? I was actually living at my shop on the store,
on the floor of the store. Okay, we it was our third
or fourth year in I was in a really bad relationship and um, you
know, and I finally had decided to just leave. And I didn't have
a place, and I didn't have money at the time, and I said,
I don't care, I'll live anywhere. And I went to the store,
unlocked the door, opened up a box and laid on the cardboard there
applied for food samps and everything. I got it, food samps, card
and mail because they automatical give you two hundred fifty dollars when you apply.
And I cut up the card. I looked in the mirror. I said,
I don't want to be that guy. Yeah, I don't want to
be another statistic of another Latino who can't take care of himself, who is
an able. Where were your parents? My parents were still round, I
mean they had divorced at that time. Yeah, but I mean, there's
no there is no way your mom's gonna did you know you were sleeping on
a card? No, I didn't tell her. Machismo, right, You're
not gonna tell her, not right, I'm not gonna tell him either.
Yeah. Oh, they thought I was living in glory Land. You know,
you gotta keep up the appearance, and that's what I did. I
got through it at some point to make it. At some points she knew
because I had to ask my sister if I can live on her couch for
a little bit. Yeah. So all right, But that's what families,
I mean, honestly, that's what family is well, family for or what
family does, right, They're supposed to. They're supposed to. So okay,
So Now, when do you decide that you're gonna get into politics,
because I think it probably started smaller than city council. Yeah, no,
it it was when I moved into schlat I knew that I wanted to be
part of the city and I did not like where the city was going.
I did not like Lovely Warren at all. I didn't agree with her on
mostly anything. So politically you are what what what label do they put by
you? People want to put out a different lay want me every day?
Yeah, I consider myself a blue dog Democrat. I'm right usually right down
in the middle. But I think most people, if you ask them that,
they'll say they're a label, but in reality, when it comes to
every different topic, they feel differently the right. So joined me in the
middle. It's nice and warm. It is nice. Governor you cannot governor
or governor. You cannot govern from anywhere but the middle. You just can't.
You need to talk to other people on city council about that. But
you can't do this. Ship goes nutty exactly. Have to come to the
middle where you need to have better dialogue in politics everywhere. Yeah, in
my opinion, open and honest dialogue. You need to allow people to say
what they need to say, say what they want to say, say how
they feel, and not attack them. Figure out why, why, why
did they come to that agreement, why do they decide that in their life,
and then say, okay, I can see how you do that.
Let's let's meet somewhere in the middle here and a lot of that is just
gone. Now it's gone. So, Um, the city is very hard
Democrats. So you have to be a You have to be a Democrat in
order to win any election in the city for the most part. Yes.
Um, So if I went into the downtown, I said I need a
register to vote, because even back then, I still don't have a I
wasn't registered to vote. I was in the military before, and I just
stepped it in. But um, yeah, They're like, well, what
do you want to do. I was like, well, I want to
I want to be mayor one day. They're like, well, you gotta
be democrat. Okay, so I democrat still the goal? Oh so yeah,
yeah, I would be mayor. Yeah I have to be Yeah,
when the city needs me, I will be mayor. Yeah I am.
I am impressed with the man who's mayor. Now, Okay, with the
things he's saying. Okay, I don't know about the action so much.
I don't live there, but I feel like some of the things are said.
Right. I don't agree with all of it, but I understand.
I think some of where it comes to. We'll get to that in a
little bit. I want to go back to the Jose story. I like
this. So so you join, you decide, you register, and what's
your first political office or political group. But I got involved with the community
association, and so I tell everyone who wants to get involved in politics,
start at your street level, start with your community association. I was vice
president of my communy association. As soon as I got in there, like,
well, we got a fresh young voice in Charlotte, which is it's
really highly older, right, And so I got involved and we were putting
together events, put in together fundraisers, we were doing things that they just
weren't doing before, and we were just kicking ass. But then you get
to hear what the people really want. At that point, you know,
you really get into the granular of how people think and what they want out
of the city. And at that point I knew there was no attention in
Charlotte at all. Yeah, no attention. We have a beautiful beach down
there. It's to me it's the the Diamond and the rough over there,
because the city is just kind of like burnt, imploding on itself and we
have a freaking beach with a river that runs to it, what falls,
and we just forget about the waterways. So I'm with you because I used
to when I was on a radio station WCMF. I've heard of it.
There were, I'm sure you have. There were. There were a lot
of fights that were happening down at the beach right in the summer, and
that this one summer, and it was probably around two thousand and twelve,
twenty eleven, and they, I believe Sea Breeze was saying they weren't going
to open Memorial Day weekend because they were. There was so much chat on
social media about fights and things. So we put together an event called Rock
in the Beach and went down there because it was like it's early June.
We got all four seasons in one day. Oh yeah, I mean it
was hail and snow, but it was kind of cool because it is I
agree with you, it is a it's just a gemstone down it's a beautiful
spot with no investment. With no investment investment. I mean we tried with
the fast ferry. We did, and you know, well did we.
I went on that fast ferry. I was impressive. Okay, Yeah,
I did take a ride across the lake and that I didn't get chance too.
But Bill Johnson is my favorite mayor Oka of all the time because he
tried. Yes, that's my thing about it. You tried something, you
don't fail if in the end you learned something out of it. Right now,
we see that slot can grow with the port down there fully rented out.
Yeah, it is beautiful waterway, beautiful marina. We have awesome events
down there. So it because something good did come of it. But that
fast ferry was way too early for it was way too early. It was
a little too quick. We can we can get there though. Yeah,
didn't they sell it for a dollar or something? That you can remember the
guys who owned it. I knew two of the guys. One of the
guys and he was a neighbor for a few minutes. Then oh yeah,
I saw that stuff all right, See you know the inside info of in
it a little bit. Okay, So then, um, you decide to
run for higher office. Yeah, how does that go? Someone recruit you,
someone say, hey, man, really kick it. Oh no,
they didn't want you. Well, the person that was in this position before
I had heard that she wasn't going to run again. Okay, Molly Clifford
was in a position before, and Um I called her up and I said,
I hear you're not running. You know, I have respect for what
you've done so far, but I wanted to take the torch for non She
said, sure, have at it. You know you got my blessing for
it. I don't know why I would need a blessing, but no,
I think it's the right thing. I thought it was the right thing to
do as well. I mean, it's like asking my wife to get married.
I had to ask father. Um, so asked her. And from
that point on I just freaking hustled. Man. I I love knocking on
doors. A lot of people are scared to knock on doors and inner city.
I went straight into the inner city. It's funny because I did not
knock on doors and shallot like at all. Everyone thinks that I focused on
that area. I didn't. I went into Driving Park, I went into
Sherman street. I went to it everywhere, and I said, my number
one question was this, do you feel as if the time that you've lived
here that your community has improved or not improved? Come on exactly, Well,
you gotta get you gotta get the yes, right, you gotta yeah,
Obviously it hasn't improved. Okay, So why keep voting the same way.
I'm telling you right now, I'm I'm a bulldog. I'm gonna fight
for it. I'm gonna be very loud and be very vocal. We may
not agree on everything, but I'm gonna fight for exactly what it is that
you want. And I'm a push my side, my feelings aside, because
I do have my own biases on things, and I have voted against things
that I don't personally agree with. But the people said they wanted it.
Okay, that makes sense, and I think that's missing as well. Like
there's I understand I do because a lot of times, a lot of people
don't understand that. You almost have to have the wisdom of Solomon right where
you can see where here's why I don't like it, but I do see
where majority of you do, and you feel like it's going to benefit you
I don't think you know, the negative, isn't that bad source? To
do it right? Right? And here here it is. Let's see what
happens. If it doesn't work, let's pull it back. Yeah. The
problem with our cities we have no follow up. There is no pullback.
Once we've given money to some organization, it seems like they continue to get
more and more money to continue doing what they're doing. Would you be talking
about the police accountability there's multiple organizations that I think. I think we talked
about the Police Scounability Board, you and I Yes, and then we'll Cleveland
got very upset. Yes, yeah, well all right because the board I
know, I guess he was. We'll take a moment and then when we
come back, I'll ask you what do you feel like it's the biggest challenge
facing the city today? Sure? Right now today? And then we can
even get into the keya boys a little bit, yes, and then how
the city of Rochester. Now that's something I don't know that I agree with.
Okay, I think I understand why, but I don't agree with it.
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a little tougher. Sometimes we have things called food deserts right in these areas
and stuff, and it's almost like the only way to survive is to to
do something of a criminal entity at times. Right, So they think so
they think, right, And you went and knocked on doors and asked people,
has your neighborhood improved or kind of slid? Uh? What do you
think is the biggest problem in the city today? Or facing the city or
facing the residence. Let's put it that way. I know exactly what it
is. It's the number one issue that our city is facing. So that
Uh, it's destroying our children, It's pushing families out of the city.
It is the Rochester City School District. It is the number one worst thing
in our city by far, everything that stems from the city school district when
it comes to poverty, because they can't get jobs, because they can't freaking
read, they can't talk appropriately, they don't have no eloquent speech. You
know, they don't have any job skills, they don't have any life skills.
So when you don't have that, then you turn to the nefarious issues.
Yeah, that's funny, funny in that I don't think I expected that
answer. Well, if you think about it, it's a great answer.
That's a great answer. It's just I don't think that most people would point
the finger there. Well, when when you have the conversations like this,
people will will gravitate towards that. Finally they'll say, all right, we'll
talk about poverty, but how do people get into poverty. Well, they
don't finish school. That's the number one reason they don't finish school. They
have children out of wedlock, and then they don't get married to that person
that or stay with the person that they or that child with that. Those
are the top three reasons of why a child is born into poverty and continues
into poverty and continues it and to their lifetime. I mean, those are
top three issues. But it stems from the school district. We have a
school that just came into SAT, the old Shalatt High School, which was
the leadership academy. It was at all boys school. Yeah, they shut
it down and turned into a social justice school. All right, I thought
they were joking with me. I said, I'm a Josepo. You're gonna
put a social justice school in my district in Shalat especially, I was working
for two years to bring an entrepreneurship class to that school. You know how
hard it is to add an entrepreneurship or a financial literacy class to a RCSD
schedule. I don't think you can do it anywhere. Right, we don't
teach about we can change. We can change from a standard school to a
social justice school within a summer. Well yeah, yeah, I hear you.
So what are you what are you actually getting these kids ready for?
What is the social justice? So I went to their soapbox talks, right,
and these kids talked about the issues, the social issues of the day
that require more social justice. One is access to guns. They wanted to
get rid of guns essentially. They believe that also mental health that is an
issue. Obviously these kids have a huge mental health issue. Um. Number
three was sexual conversations in the school. How how are we teaching kids about
sexuality and gender? Okay, Um, so those were to me one of
the top three issues that they spoke about. Um, I'm confused on the
sex and gender, right, it would be most people are and I don't
mean to sound ignorant or I hope, but I would think that sex and
gender would be more Are they looking for more acceptance for other identities? They
want to talk about the other sex as the other genders, the hundreds of
genders that they might think, you know, and then the multiple ways that
you can have relationships with other people. Okay, fine and Dan, yes,
right, But if you were going to say that you can't include this
is my thing. You want to teach your kids and you want you kids
to learn that kind of stuff. Fine, cool, I'm with it.
But if your kids are not prepared for real life when they graduate high school,
then what was the point of everything else? Well, here would be
my question to you. Sure that sounds like a great assembly, right,
a discussion. He's right, you know, here's somebody who would identifies is
this here's why they feel this way we need to be accepting. Here's the
pronouns they would prefer all that. I don't know that I need to hope
for your program. Well as you understand what yes, and what I'm thinking
is you would want them to your point, what are we doing that it's
gonna sustain you later on? Because knowing who you are is important, But
then what to do after that, Because when you look at politics, you
when you start something new, you have to take away from something else,
or you increase taxes. It's as simple as that. The money is a
certain amount of money that you have to play with, right, It's like
monopoly money. When you have to pay for something new program, where's that
money going to come from. It's either gonna come from your wallets or it's
gonna come from something else. So a lot of people were wanting to defund
the police, right, take money from the police and put it into social
justice concerns, which I agree that we need to fund this, but that
doesn't mean we take away from this. I think that there could be a
more balancing approach. Yeah, I didn't like the term defund the police.
I don't think anybody that was bad market. I think it was anti It
made it felt too anti police, and I think that most people would agree
that we do need them. So maybe you could say reallocate fund I don't
know, they don't think the pounds that they didn't start with that. Yeah,
of course, once they started getting the heat for it and they started
seeing that the vast majority of people were not in agreement with them. Then
they switched their tone. It's like bud Light now coming out with a whole
new commercial. Right, they switched their tone real quick. Yeah, and
I understand because it's not working. Right. So, well, they're in
the business of making money, right, And I guess we would say that,
you know, if you're defund the police, you're in the business of
making money for something, something else, something else, right. Yeah,
And now we've we're funding a ton of programs, a ton of programs and
tens of millions of dollars into making sure that kids are understanding that there's alternative
ways, you know, pathways to peace, making sure they're not out there
on the streets doing ridiculous things. I think this last year we put in
at least thirteen million into just anti anti they're not out there just killing people,
making sure that they understand that there's alternatives. And on top of that,
we're paying money to hire these teenagers. As a company, you can
hire this teenager on the city dollar. Wow, So you wouldn't even have
to pay them as an employer. Nope, but you could. It can
almost be like a paid apprenticeship. Yes, if right, if we do,
a lot of employers don't know about it, right, how did it
okay? Why don't they know about it? That's one of the other biggest
issues with our cities that we're not speaking directly to the people. Yeah,
we put it on the news or put on WXX side, put it into
a newspaper, and we assume that everybody reads or sees those specific things or
by dk X everyone listens to them. Right. Well, that that maybe
I don't want to because I'm always afraid nowadays, like, but you're not
hitting the people part of traditional media, right, Like if I say something
negatives like you no no know what I'm saying, I understand that people's attention
or split exactly newspapers are. I mean, it's right, it's it's down,
it's a dying and that is cutting all the time. Doesn't mean that
somebody's not going to get that information, but it's not getting to where you
need it. But is it the right person? Right? If we're putting
it, we're just blessing it out there. It's like putting your name on
a on a billboard. Yes, that doesn't mean that anyone passing by it
is going to remember mac of all trades, right, you got it.
Um, they're just gonna see it and then maybe they see enough to remember
how happy didn't But you hope that people remember that. Yeah, but if
in marketing you understand that you want to go towards the people that will benefit
from your message, and we're just not doing that as a city. Now,
me and myself, I have an app you can download if you just
search Jose Po. I'm literally the only politician in the world with his own
app. I talked directly to my constituents. They can send me issues right
through their app. That's pretty freaking cool. Why can I do that in
the city? Can't do that? Did you ask them? Because I've met
they have an answer. I'm sure they do. There's always answer, right.
He made the app for money for it Fiver, you had fiber do
the app. Brilliant. Oh that's brilliant. Thank you. I want an
app, seriously, I've been thinking about that and talking to people, but
the cost was looking astronomical. Yeah, it's a little different for me because
you would want audio things and all that, right, right, But let's
go back to the Jose that is that's brilliant. I was a big fan
when we talked, because I forgive my blunt language, but you're kind of
a no bullshit guy. I appreciate your language. I like the the logic.
It made sense. There was a lot of, in my opinion,
linear thinking. Um. It would be things like, I understand why a
social justice school sounds good, but what is it doing right? And what
are we doing? Are we making things more divisive? Are we not uniting
the way we really think we are. I don't know the answer to that.
I'm not an expert, but i have opinions like anybody else, and
I'll say all the time that they're halfway between fact and fiction. That's what
the opinion is by definition. But when you've got things like that going on
in a place that's already a mess, Yeah, you bring up a lot
of good points. Where do we how do you fix? I mean,
it's been like, man, My parents were educators. My dad was a
sixth grade English teacher in the inner city of Poughkeepsie, which had more murders
per capita than Brooklyn. Yeah, because it's it's really small. My mom
was a speech pathologist in the Wappinger School district. So I grew up around
this kind of stuff. But I came up here, I went to college
here, and I go this school system has been a mass four thirty plus
years. And a guy who I went to college with who is not I
would say, I don't know if he's persona on brought up with the city
of Rochester anymore. But Adam McFadden and Adam and I used to talk a
lot, and Adam would say to me, I worry about the future of
the city. And Adam used to much like yourself, walk the streets,
talk to people. There was this horrible incident that happened where a woman got
beaten to death trying to protect her daughter down I forget. It might have
been on Dewey or something many many yeah, okay, might have been many
years ago. And Adam went and he knew who was involved, and he
talked and you know, now he did something that certainly and was paying his
time. But he would say to me, I worry that when the grandparents
start to die, there's gonna be nobody to raise the kids because the parents
aren't doing it. They're not there. And as you said, young maybe
not staying together on protected sex. And people always go, well, how
do we need to get them condoms. We didn't. Come on, man,
here's the here's the thing with sex that nobody wants to admit. It's
free and it feels good. Yeah, Okay, I got a shitty life,
you know what I mean. Let's say I don't have a lot.
I don't have a lot of things in life, and don't have a lot
of places I can go in a lot of entertainment. I may have my
guilty pleasure, yeah, but I've got an escape for an hour. Yeah,
yeah, exact hour. But you know, and I think that we
don't see it that way, and and yet we almost want to demonize people
as well. They need to acting like we didn't do it. Come on,
man, stop it. And the terms are they in this? We
need to bring it down and start of the conversation at a human level.
Exactly humanize. Yeah, we forget that they're humans because we look at them,
or some people would look at them as just straight up animals living in
animal life. Well, they you got to understand when you're when you're living
in a school system where it's essentially an animal house people, where they just
allow these kids to do whatever. The teachers in the city schools said exactly
Yeah, they're just not getting what. You're not hearing anywhere near the amount
of issues that are happening in our city school In our city schools, you
have no idea what's happening in there because it does not make the news because
the schools are blocking it from making it the news. We're talking about teachers
drinking. Teachers drinking with their kids at like an overnight event. Wow,
that didn't make the news. No, but it's a bonding experience that's not
drink is here underage kids underage? I understand. Well. There was also
where teachers were getting physically assaulted. Yeah, in many of the schools overacting
like these kids are so young, right, these kids? I mean,
I don't know if it's a geniously river water that allow these kids to look
like forging incredible hawks these days, but these kids have grown up real quick.
And you know, you could be fourteen looking like you're eighteen, yeah,
real easily. But these kids, And you ask the question earlier about
how do we fix that? I believe that there's really only kind of two
ways to do that. UM Number one, completely dismantled at our CSD and
allow our kids to join in as a county with allowing our kids to be
involved with the bordering towns and they're bordering neighborhoods to bring the schools together.
Yeah, I'm I'm not saying that's I'm not saying that's a good answer.
I'm saying that that is one answer. If you want to talk about integration
and reverse racism, that's one answer. The other answer is give the parents
the opportunity to use that tax money to put their kid to whatever school they
want, whether it be a public school and they take a check from it,
whatever it may be, or they put it to a private school,
or they go into a charter school. Because when my son was going to
private school, I'm not gonna name their names because they didn't give me no
discount of rates, but it was seventy five hundred a year kids to go
to the c school district. Our taxpayers are paying around about thirty three thousand
dollars a year, So why don't we just pay these private polls thirty three
thousand dollars years per child, child per child, thirty three thousand, you
were seventy five hundred, seventy five hundred, So why don't we just pay
for these kids? To go to private schools and what was that, Saint
Catarie And there's still sixty million dollars in the whole sun How this school?
Right? And we're not getting the opportunities that these young kids are doing now.
I don't know what the cost is today, but I had one kid
that went to McQuaid and it was half of the number you just said,
yeah, almost Yeah, once you get into junior high in high school,
that numbers come up. But even if you say half, but you're getting
double the other education. You're getting double the sports opportunities about eight and twelve
yeah, yeah, from middle school. And so what are we doing?
Why do we keep doing this? Their budgets over a billion dollars. When
you say things like this, what happens? Oh? I get laughed at
by other members of the city council, other members of the city council,
people in the crowd. They say that's just crazy. And I'm saying,
well, what's your answer then, because this isn't working right. You know,
parents are leaving the city when their kid turns five years old. They're
leaving the city because they don't want to deal with this. Yeah. Do
you know that for many, many years just to give you like kind of
the the plus in the mind is here in this area. You go fifteen
minutes to the east and you have a school district that only until maybe I'm
going to say I think it was in the last two years. It could
have been in the last five years, went to full day kindergarten. And
the reason they didn't have it was the kids were getting everything else at home.
They had half day kindergarten in Pittsford, and the only reason was that
the kids were learning technology, the parents were reading to them. There was
all this other stuff that was going on, right, and you know,
I know there's universal PreK and things in the city, which I think is
great, and you know, it is a good opportunity for these children to
be in a learning environment, but they didn't have it there. You go
fifteen minutes in the other direction and where you are in one of the worst.
I mean, the dichotomy is crazy. Just in general, the same
fifteen miles got some of the better school districts in the state top ten.
Yes, and you've got the city school district. He said, it's a
war zone. Yeah. I went to West ron Acquai High School, where
I graduated and my teacher there, lu To Caesar, who constantly brings up
kids into financial literacy and entrepreneurship. They just were ranked the round Quaid School
District was just ranked like twenty fifth in the country for financial literacy. Yeah,
what are we doing in a city? We're not. I don't know
that they're doing it a lot of places. I didn't even know they were
doing in a West Arontic quick. But you're right, you're not. They're
not doing it in the city. And those are the things. It's almost
like, if you could these kids want to learn. Yes, they do.
I will say that. I know there were people were not a fan
of what Roland Williams was doing with his academy, but I'm pretty sure And
I thought it might have been Sheriff Baxter who I talked to, who said
to me, we've never had a kid involved in that program have an interaction
with the police. He phrased it that way, never had a kid who
was involved in That's a great statist, isn't it. Yeah, it's a
statistic that we need to be talking about. Like numbers don't live, No,
but people want but all kids wants to belong to something and self esteem.
And I really feel like the biggest problem in life with almost everything is
self esteem. And if we could just take a little bit of pride and
clean up our yard and then from there then the street, and it has
to start at home, you would think that this ship just gets picked up.
It's easier said than done. Well, I see that part, and
I also see if you're doing all this in your neighbor next door is throwing
parties still three o'clock in the morning and selling drugs all day and you call
it a place and nothing happens right Like, I can see that part of
it too. Where Why am I doing all this when this guy is just
able to live and is you know, doing whatever how he wants? Yes,
And that's how our city is living right now. People are just living,
however, to how they want because there's no repercussions at all, including
the Kia Boys. Yeah, well, the Kia Boys. Why don't we
talk about there are two things that I'd like to talk to you about,
the Kia Boys and a story that thirteen Wham had and we'll play back the
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Yeah, I mean right, property values are important. They are important
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your song taking care of business. Now. They were a Canadian band.
Uh. One of the founding members, Tim Bachman, just die. Oh
that went dark. Well that's why we're playing it just to Yeah. Tim
Bachman has died. Pretty I'd send to be a Kanye guy, okay,
or in sync? You know, whoa whoa, whoa whoa. We just
went like I call it Kanye. Okay. Do you like yeasies? I
do not. I would never spend that kind of money. I gotta tell
you, Like I put them on. My wife has them. They are
so comfortable. I don't care. Would never spend that money. They're so
comfortable I buy, I buy the bootlegs. You kind you know, you
know you you spent the money indirectly if your wife has got him. Yeah,
yeah, actually probably. We have some friends. There's a store in
Eastvie mall called the Plug, and they've got all the shoes. My sister
in law is one of the people there. Oh she is yeah Natasha,
Okay did she she's not married to No? Okay, I don't know.
You can't miss her if you go there. Yeah, I went in the
day I went through. It was a bunch of bunch of guys. I
am very uh intrigued by the sneaker game. I am not not, but
I am intrigued by this whole economy that's happening. Oh, it's crazy,
right because Jimmy's he's one of those guys. He is. Yeah, he
sends me pictures all the time. When he's out. Jimmy will just take
a day and he'll go down to like the outlets or different stores and he'll
scoop up what he believes are gonna be rare Jordan's, Nike Jordan's, and
then he goes and he puts him on consignment sometimes or he'll save him him.
He's I think he's sitting on a couple that he spent oh one,
He's sitting on tens of thousands of dollars with the sneakers. Yeah, yeah,
I've seen his apartment was like filled with not his partment, but he
has like a yeas all right, So Jose, what do we think about
the the Kia Boys? What is going on with the Kia boys? Man,
it's it's an interesting thing. You're trying to get my blood level up?
Yes, a little bit. Well from like you kind of blame TikTok
in a way, we got social media that same TikTok. You're right,
you can't you get the parents allowing their kids to have TikTok. Well,
okay, well, or you can blame the people that put it up on
TikTok. TikTok didn't do this. It was somebody showed. Someone makes a
decision, made a decision on how to you know, rip these cars off.
Right, So now it's led to not just stolen cars, which is
a huge inconvenience for anybody, right, I mean, it's way worse than
that. It's way worse than that, because imagine your car gets stolen out
of the parking lot here, right, it's pain in the ash. They
take the car and they crash it into a store. Well, that's where
I was gonna go next. It's usually I because at first it was just
they were stealing cars. Now it's smashing. Now it's smashing grabs, right,
and then they steal everything out of that store, and then they run
away and then they dumped their vehicle wherever, or they get caught by the
place. And none of these fourteen fifteen year olds get rereleased an hour later,
whose insurance goes up? Mine and the store right, and now they
have to pay further stuff And people say, oh, they have insurance.
It's okay. People people are getting there's businesses getting their insurance dropped, dropped
in the city. They're not talking about I had. One newscaster was talking
about it. People are getting their insurance dropped. They're going through thirteen different
insurance companies just to find insurance to cover them in the city. Who's the
news reporters and my friend, um, no, it wasn't Berkeley. He'll
be I'm sure he'll be getting on it. We talked earlier today. But
that's that's what's really happening in reality here people say, oh, insurance will
cover it. Well, that person is now has to call into work.
Who knows if they're under last call in you might lose their job. They
have to get a rental, who has who knows if they have collision insurance?
Right, So if they don't have collision insurance, you just totally screwed
them. Yeah, and I'll say, you crash into another vehicle running through
a red light, you just roy someone's livelihood because you t boned them.
Like my sister got t boned and a car fitted over. They all pretty
much went to the hospital and we're out of work for over a week.
Who pays for that? So it's way worse than inconvenience it is. It
is terrible what we are doing to the good people in this city, who
seriously just want to go to work, get some money to afford R G
and E, get some groceries that are way over priced at this point,
and be able to feed their family, and then wake up the next day
and do it all over again. That's all they want to do. And
the kids. They want their kids to grow up in a safe neighborhood.
What are we doing to these people? We're destroying them? Wow? Dare
they ask God for all this? What do they think? This is America?
What were you doing? Yeah, you should have reasonable expectations the pursuit
of happiness. You should have that. Well, one thing I brought up
to the mayor was holding the parents insurance accountable. If you're okay, so
the parents of the kids, yes, yeah, if they have insurance,
we're going after your car insurance. I don't care if you have collision or
not. We're going after your insurance. Your insurance has to pay for all
that damage. Better than going out after Kia or Hyundai. Who's gonna win
in that? Well, here's the way the city's gonna win money and do
what with it? That was my question, Like, I got it.
I understand, it's it's a to me, it's great political posturing. I
don't know any other way to say it. But I hate that. I
hate that. I understand that hand it is, but to your point,
like, and I know that that the mayor had talked about a senior citizen
who couldn't get the doctor's appointments, but somebody who had sneakers stolen and all
this stuff, like, there's gonna be people who well, leaving your sneakers
in the cars a little bit enticing anyway, potentially, right, don't do
that. But uh, it is a major inconvenience. But it's an inconvenience
just for you. I don't feel it if your car gets stolen, right
necessarily if your insurance will go up though, yes it will because insurance is
based on the geographical location. Yes it is, yea, So we're all
going to feel it's the most it's the most socialism program that we have insurance,
Yeah, because everyone has figures. I don't think people really but I
don't think people really think. I think that way. You got to think
about the lung one solve statistics, right, what area are you living in?
That's why they That's why the number one question is what tras up code
ye yeah, and you may want to lie and say one four yeah,
and that you moved out. Uh so you've got these all that going on.
And then I felt like it was a pannering thing to say that you're
suing them. Now there could be the key and hunda. I go,
we're not monsters and we're not doing anything. That was horrible and it was
a flawed and we didn't realize it because it just who who would even think?
Right? You know what I'm saying, like, you need to hire
the kids. You need to take their their superpowers of evil or apply them
to good. You know all they do it with hackers all the time,
right, they hire them at different companies to go they prevent that ship from
happening. But uh, I go, boy, you sue these guys.
They may settle just to look like good corporation. They're gonna have to settle.
Yeah. Yeah, it's just like the gun manufacturers there, we're suing
the gun manufacturers as well, for all right, gun murders. Right,
why who's gonna what We're gonna The city's gonna get money because gun manufactures made
guns. So I would think that the people that were referenced in the mayor's
speech. Are not going to see a dime of that, No, I
would. I think the city will, and it may be to pay for
the police officers. And maybe that's some good. No, you don't think
so. I just I saw you dismissed that pretty quick. Anything with pandering,
I just I have no time for whatsoever. And it's both the Keia
thing and and Hondai and the gun manufacturer thing, Like, we have a
really big issue going out in our city. And then I'm taking this from
I'm giving him credit at Berkeley Breen earlier, he said, it's like the
house is on fire, yes, and your it's your house, right,
Your house is on fire, and you're talking about how you need to fix
the the basement. Yeah, go to be left, man, We need
really need to fix that basement. Well there's a fire happening right now.
You need to put the fire out right right now. We need to put
the fire output our attention on that. I don't I'm not saying we can't
do anything else, but what's the outcome of this. We're gonna soothe and
then what We're gonna get money, and then we're gonna pay for police officers.
When that family's out of money because they couldn't go to work, well,
you got it. They see that. That's the part, and that
to me sort of dovetails into why we're seeing kids get off so quickly.
Right, there's been a thirteen year old boy, allegedly I will say that,
I love that word. I won't just say that allegedly button, Yeah,
allegedly according to the sheriff, that's been arrested six times and has been
released every time. And a fourteen year old multiple times as well. Okay,
so these are thirteen and fourteen year olds. Now, we do have
the bail reform laws. From what I understood the bail reform law to be,
and I talked to may Or Evans about this, okay, was that
if someone swiped a pack of gum, and this may be a bad analogy
because most people aren't swiping a pack of gum, but that you wouldn't go
to jail, so you could go to work the next day. What's like,
we're talking about where you can if your car stolen, right, so
maybe you could take a bus, but even that, you're figuring all that
shit out right, So that the idea was that you wouldn't be We wouldn't
prevent you from being able to provide for your family and continue to work if
it was something minor. I don't know where the boundaries are on that.
What's minor, what's not? Who gets to determine that that was, in
my opinion wrong. No, in my opinion, is worse than pandering because
you're succumbing to the pressure. So they say they succumbed to the pressure of
the BLM movement saying there needs to be no cash bail and we need to
let out people who are fifty five and older because somehow they can't commit crime.
And during COVID we let everybody out of the jail because they can't catch
COVID in jail, they have to catch it at home insteady And so we
let all the criminals out of jail, We put them in homes that they
were not expected to have, and then we close everything down. Yeah,
so what's left. These kids are gonna see these guys that just came out
of jail who were in there doing hard time for whatever reason it was.
These kids are learning from them. Now they're going out there and they're doing
the things because they these older folks know that these kids can't go to jail.
They're gonna tell him, you can't go to Joe. Doesn't matter,
you get caught, you'll be up within an hour. So here we are
with So you think that these kids are being recruited by other people too?
Oh? Absolutely, absolutely things. Yeah, it's it's not just teenagers who
just decided, hey, let's go steal cars. Someone told them. And
I understand there's a lot of people who are blaming TikTok. But as soon
as we found out that our son, our fourteen year old son had a
TikTok, oh, we he didn't touch He didn't touch a phone for a
long time. After that, he didn't have he didn't have internet or anything
for a long time because he knew he was supposed to have that. So
what are the other parents doing? Because I know that my son, who's
for again, fourteen years old, would never go to the garage and take
his bike out to ride in the streets, let alone, go steal in
ATV and ride it on the major streets and do you know donuts and a
red light could be a lot of fun. No, it would not be
a lot of fun for him. The kids of the Quintas and just seeing
the dirt bikes in the Yeah. Yeah, because Dewey and Lake have are
one of the worst streets in the in the city to drive down. Yeah,
I literally will go down to Saint Paul. I'd rather drive down Saint
Paul's Street than Lake Avenue. It's a prettier street. Um stop it it
is. But do you ever go speak to like sometimes there's little motorcycle clubs
or sometimes groups of kids who have I know, I know that they've been
meeting up and racing at times and doing all that. Joseo down and with
a megaphone and talk to these kids. Now, I'll let I'll let the
others on city council who want to have dirt parks within the city to for
a TV and dirt like writers to have. They don't want to ride into
dirt park. They want to go out in the streets. Jesus. They
want the YouTube videos. They want you to feel like, oh, this
look like they want to off in front of the girls. Yes, yeah,
you got it. It's testosterone and pussy. I'm sorry. As a
young man, that's what it is. I mean, what else is there
at that at that age is nothing? I mean, and if you can
be the cool guy on that, you're not gonna go to a dirt park
and no, they've got them. It's crazy and the suburbs not them far
away. You can find them. Yeah, you can go there legally.
No one's gonna mess with no. And the thing is, in my district,
we actually had a street where these kids were assembling and they were doing
drag races down the street. Nobody messed with them because it was a big
commercial district area. Nobody messed with them. Yeah. It was during COVID
that they decided, well, we see what's happening on the streets. We
can just drink and smoke all night. No one's gonna mess with us.
Let's bring the dirt bikes out there as well. Right, but I'll get
in trouble and called a racist. Why would you be called a racist?
I was for what I was. That's exactly what happened. I don't understand
because it's because it's urban kids, as black kids that are riding the bikes.
I would not say it's just them, because it happens on Clinton with
the latinos as well. Okay, and as white kids as well coming into
the area because they know they can just do them right. Yeah, so
everyone wants to make it a racist thing where they want to make it a
sexist thing where we want to They want to label you as something bad in
and attack that entire lab. But that's not attacking the issue. It's not
it's not how we are because by the way, you know what, let
one of those people have, uh what do we have? Happened today with
some gentlemen in the city running from a truck or got hit by a truck
and a baby has been critically injured. Oh yeah, that kid. Then
I forgive me. I don't know the story exactly. My only point is,
let somebody be walking with their family down the street on a nice day
and all of a sudden this comes up. What the thing is you don't
even know. You're in the car and you're you know, you don't know
where to go because all you hear is the loud pipes, but you can't
tell which way to go. And then it right, any acction that happens
could be a deadly one. And I just if you turn a little bit
and you might, you know, piss somebody off. They they shot at
a boat. This guy was dragging behind him because he kind of went into
their lane. Like, we're not gonna talk about people who are obviously don't
care about the laws. They obviously do not care about I'm not calling I'm
not gonna call them criminals by any means, but they are breaking a law.
Well that's usually what criminals are. Yeah, I definitely. You know,
when you say something like that, you automatically go to the worst.
Um, So they are breaking the law. All we're saying is, look,
if you would have stayed over here, nobody would have messed with you.
No one want to talk to you. But that's not what they want.
They want to go to Cornhill or do you want to go to Copsco?
Sorry and brace up there. Well, those legislations that city council person
wants dirt bikes on the streets, you can have them. As soon as
I said that, they said, nevermind, Yeah, never mind, we
don't want it, right right, sounds like fun. Oh it's a lot.
Well it's it's a lot because are we in a point now where where
we it almost has become like a shield. If I label myself as something
that I'm almost untouchable, do you understand what I'm saying, like I think
there's many. Let me be really, really really blunt. Have at it.
If I say that I'm a minority and I'm gay, and I can
say anything I want, You're protected as hell. Okay, that's I just
wanted. And how dare you? How dare you not you know, embrace
my reality? Yeah? Well reality as a Latino mail is. Yeah,
but your reality. And I understand that maybe you're marginalized and all that.
Well, let's try to bring you in. Let's try to make it better.
But let's go with the issues, not the labels. Well, I
remember when people wanted to be just just accepted for who they were. Yeah,
they wanted to be included. Yes, Now everybody wants to be in
their own little special box. And then society has to wrap themselves around that.
And it's like, well, no, I don't care about what you
do in your bedroom. Yeah, I really do not care. Well,
the fact that you have to declare your preferences when you walk in the door
is a little backwards. Where are we right? Where are we with that?
I do not care? No, I hear you? Yeah? Interesting,
So the key of boys, So we agree on that. I think
we do I think most people do. What was the other issue that we
we touched on for a moment, the lawsuits, We touched on the school
district. We touched on how amazing shelat beaches, how beautiful the houses and
people would are. All right, we'll take a moment. You got,
you got a little bit of time. Absolutely, I'll talk all day.
All right, What did you want to say about the public Marijuana's terrible too?
Oh okay, okay, we'll talk about you mentioned it off the top.
One of the things he used to do. We get Doug Phillips,
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Jose looks like, you know, he's he's got all. He's got
a lot of frustration. He's got to get out. He's stealing a lot.
He steal fourteen year old kid in addition to an eighteen year old and
an eighteen year old. Yeah, all right, there you go. I
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I did? I did a flip. That was it, You did a
flip. I'm too afraid to have any kind of long term rental, even
short term rental these days, you'd never know. Why is that? Because
people will rent it out for parties? Okay, and enough squat. Well
so thirteen Wham did a story and I only found it because of Rochester Reddit.
And do you go on Rochester Reddit? No? Why not? I
do not go down to it. I do not the Twitter. The only
reason I do a little bit is because I want to sort of see how
people are thinking on certain subjects. I think you get a very one sided
view of it. I think sometimes you do. I feel like Reddit's a
little more balanced. People seem to call each other out in the comments that
I've read. I like to go into the comments Twitter. I'll agree Twitter.
There are times where to me, it's turned into some Jerry Springer show.
Yes, it's a vacuum, almost no value to that. But I
like it for the news stuff. I always feel like if I'm going to
get news quickly, I get it on Twitter, right. I mean,
that's the way I see it. I got a TikTok for new stuff.
Oh yeah really, Oh yeah, news that you don't hear about. Yeah,
regular news. Okay, I got lost stuff from my podcast on there.
So in the Rochester Reddit stuff they were talking about that. I saw
this story about basically squatters. So I went to thirteen Wham and we'll listen
to a little bit of this and see what you think about it. It
is a different kind of housing crisis in the city of Rochester. Landlowder says
he hasn't collected rent from one of his properties in over a year, but
he hasn't been able to evict the so called tenants due to eviction laws.
Here's thirteen whams Chase Hall. These stacks of papers in folders all eviction cases.
It's been difficult to say the least procedurally as well as as substantively.
What are those folders contain? A case brought against those living at four sixty
one Goodman Street. The owner of the property says he hasn't collected rent and
over a year now. It seems right, that seems crazy. It's it's
obscene, right, ridiculous. So you're paying on a place and most people
are doing it to sort of have it pay for itself. You rent it
out, you keep the maintenance on it. Hopefully you make it a little
bit of profit. But right, you know, give something to your child
when they get older. You got it right, yellow generational wealth. Hopefully
retire because who can rely on a social don't have the leads. They're not
tenants but their occupants. John Knaka is the lawyer representing the property owner.
He says those living at the home on Goodman are considered holdover tenants the legislature.
Then, pat do you know Knack? I knew that. I knew
both their voices immediately and Chase how a law which basically says that a tenant
can allow someone in or people in if that's what they choose to do and
they become occupants. No, because says even if the individuals living out the
property don't pay rent, the owner can't just kick them. Now they're entitled
to notice of an eviction proceeding, whether it's for non payment or hold over.
That seems crazy. You couldn't go into a store and occupy it.
Imagine it just sounds doesn't it sound crazy? It's an upside down world right
now. It is literally an upside down world where you can own a property
and you can't tell someone to leave. That's that's what it comes down to.
Yeah, you own a property, you're providing a resource. You're saying,
hey, I want to provide this house for you to rent from me.
Here's a contract, we're going to sign it. You agree to pay
me, I agree to take care of this house. When it's like big
issues, right, yes, and then the greatest thing about renting, Yeah,
but none of this ship is your problem really yeah? And then the
government comes in puts their heavy thumb on this and says, uh, COVID's
here, so you, as a rent or, do not need to pay.
And then tell us the landlord, you still have to pay everything,
right, your mortgage, your RGNE water bill, you still have to pay
everything, and your taxes even though you haven't received a single thing. And
also we're going to pay for the renter to stay there. But they have
to fill out this paperwork here. Not you as a landlord a person that
owns the house, You as a renter have to fill this out and sign
it. And then if the landlord agrees to it, they can't evict you
for at least one year what world do we live in When you can say
I haven't paid rent in a year, the government's going to go ahead and
pay it. And then on top of that, you can't evict me for
another year even if I don't pay it. That sounds socialistic, dude.
They have no obligation to identify themselves, so nor do they have an obligation
to identify themselves when they first move in. Right, the law imposes the
burden on the landlord try and figure out who these people are by name.
Some say, well, why can't he just lock them now? Naka says
landlords can't not without an eviction because if that happens, you know, the
tenant or a as it intore an occupant can come in and say, hey,
I'm an occupant. I haven't been notified, there's been no eviction,
I live here, and the police will require the landlord to change the locks.
In Rochester, Chase Howell thirteen, way of news. Now, keep
in mind what you heard that the residence at four sixty one good Minstreet.
We're supposed to be in court today foreign eviction hearing, but they never showed
up. Right, we will keep tabs on this cage and bring you updates
as they become available. Now, if they don't show up, are they
can you kick him out? Then eted I if you can't come to court
right, they can then get it pushed for another thirty days, okay,
and then they have the opportunity to bring in a government paid lawyer, yeah,
to defend them. I do think like having access to adequate housing,
something that's affordable and is okay. But I also think you got to have
a little bit of necessary. But I think you have to have a little
bit of pride in yourself. And I really am a big believer at least
in this country, that people will meet you halfway if you go halfway.
This is going halfway. This is no man, This is you know someone
that wrote so here are some comments from the reddit just to let you hear.
I have someone at work who bought a house that used to be rental,
and after they closed on the house, it took them almost two years
to get the occupants out while still paying a mortgage and getting nothing from the
occupants. It's a horror story. Somebody else writes, this nation is sick
about housing in general, very sick. People game the systems, game the
system excuse me, squatters occupants because the system is screwed up. Landlords do
hane his stuff and saber rattle as if tenants were their enemies and not their
customers. This is a six six situation, and people suffer and die unhomed
in the streets of our city while others make obscene fortunes because of it.
So you're kind of seeing two sides there, and I'm sure there are somewhere
they're saber rattling and a really shitty landlord. I would not. I mean,
there's a term slumlord for reasons. Right right, they're awful, but
that doesn't mean everybody is. And no, that's the tough part. And
right now it's getting worse because they're trying to push for good cause eviction,
which means that you can only kick this person out if they don't pay rent.
Well, we can't do that now, yeah, we can't do that
now. Where they're saying, well, people are getting evicted for calling for
too many issues. The issue here is that we can't get the wrong people
out. So if someone's selling drugs out of their apartment, they can't even
if the police come, that person can say, well that's not me selling
drugs and I was just I wasn't convicted of it. I was, it
was alleged. I still have to go to court, right, Well,
then why can't we kick them out? Oh it's well, it's not that
person, it's their boyfriend. Yeah, there's always a caveat for people.
The thing is about the city. People always find a way, even with
the scooters, they find a way to steal the scooters and make it their
own scooters. Like, they always find a way to do the wrong thing
when it should be much easier to find a way to do the right thing.
Yeah, so fun that way, right, But the squatter issue is
a huge problem in the city. And it's not just a squatter issue.
It's the abandoned homes issue. It's the people who are decided it's cheaper not
to pay the taxes and just let the city take the property. And then
that house turns into a prostitute house, turns into a drug then maybe it
catches on fire, and then it catches the houses next to it on fire.
Like, there's such an huge issue in the city with abandoned homes because
this city is meant for three hundred thousand people. Yes, we only have
two hundred ten two hundred fifteen thousand people. So what they're trying to do
is trying to build new housing when we have a housing stock that we could
just take care of, just renovate it and help people buy the house and
give them grant money and say, just fix this house for us, get
it back on tax rolls, and you'll be a first time homeer and we're
gonna hook you up. I am big fan of things like Habitat for Humanity.
Yeah, but to your point, I was watching some stuff and I
wonder, I just think about this. We're seeing buildings, brick and mortar
buildings with nothing in them anymore. Right, they're talking about the cinema and
Henrietta. I think it's the regal cinema. What's going to happen to it?
It sounds like things aren't going I'm just reading the headline there the bed
bath and beyond these things. What happens to these places that you know,
slowly they'd just become empty shells. Now it doesn't seem to be so much
in the city, but I don't I don't know, but we do have
this which is much worse because it's residential and it's where people live and lay
their head and sleep. And even there, you know, you gotta somebody
who's selling drugs out of a house. People are shooting into homes wrong homes,
right, I mean, or homes that are shared. Maybe you gotta
split a you know, a duplex, and so all of a sudden a
bullet comes to one. I mean, boy, it's a shit show,
it really is. And you brought up a good point. We can we
can convert a lot of these buildings in the city, especially like let's say
Lyle Avenue Tent City. Yeah, we are getting a developer in there.
They are going to put a ton of money into this place. They're talking
multimillions of dollars into ten City just to rehab it. Well, they need
help because it doesn't bring back the revenues. They're not going to make as
much money. They might lose money if they only put their money into it.
And they're gonna have to pay the loan as they're renovating. Well,
they're coming to the government says that help us out. Don't don't force us
to pay taxes for one year. Let the renovations go. Why when we
finish with the renovations, then we'll start paying taxes and then you'll start making
your money back. And then we'll have people on city council who say,
well, we don't want to give any kind of tax breaks to any developers.
Well, who's gonna who's gonna put the tens of million dollars into a
place like ten City to develop it? Then we all want to we all
want to help people within our city to build themselves up. Absolutely, I'm
with it, I'm for it, But it's one of those it's that's the
issue with these individual homes that a person can't buy two three houses have squatters
in all of them now, are now completely devoid of any kind of income,
are now out of pocket and dying with their finances. Essentially, they
now can't build themselves up to buy those properties where they can renovate them,
where they can put the big money into them. Right, we have to
rely on these big developers to come in and kind of save the day.
So there has to be a middle ground. We have to help people that
want to live in a city. We have to help people that want to
renovate these houses. We have to have developers who want to renovate these huge
apartment buildings or buildings that can be converted into apartments and help them out as
well. It takes so many different options and the only positive are the only
outcome I can see that can help. That is a kind of a public
finance industry. It's not available in a city right now. But if we
work with a smaller bank and say we have this text money, we want
to put it into this bank, and we want this reinvested in the community.
We want you to put this towards the businesses and people that want to
buy houses and maybe they want to buy a house for our twenty In terms
of loans or grants, loans and grants disseminates people and disseminate it out to
people. Right, you make a little bit of money, but so and
I would say people applying for a loan or a grant are gonna have a
little more hustle and some what do we call it sweat equity right into it
something that it's gonna I want this to work. I'm gonna do this.
It's the betterment of the community. And when you say things like you're you're
a disruptor, man, no, I really do I think and I say
that sort of tongue in cheek, But I feel like you're a disruptor and
you sort of go against the grain of what's easy, and no, it
has to be hard because you're gonna you're gonna love it that much more.
Nothing in life that's been easy is worth it. Yeah, I mean,
I'm a big believer in I always say self esteem. Right, if you
could help somebody get to that wine, like any one of us, you've
done a diet and it sucked, and you're going, but all of a
sudden you lost five and then he lost ten, and now you're down fifteen
pounds and now you're motivated. Right now, Now that momentum's going. You
know, you go to the gym, right, you start lifting and maybe
you're not lifting a lot, and you keep going every day and a little
by little by little, and the next thing, you know, the momentum's
going. And that I really believe you can help people win, get them,
help them get to that wind, that first win, that first win,
and it's almost like the wind in the sails and everything goes. I
think that with kids, I think that with people in life. I think
that with that Here, I mean, look, I left radio, came
here We started at my kitchen table, taking this and going going right.
But once the wind gets in the sails and you start to feel it yourself,
the momentum takes over. And I wish you could just do that in
the city because the city of Rochester has such a great, rich history.
You know, I'm a I have this theory about Rochester as a city,
and I think it probably benefits the suburbs more than it does the city itself.
But I have said many many times, as the city goes, so
go to the suburbs. But I think Georgie Eastman, good or bad,
whatever you want to think about them, brought brilliant, brilliant minds here.
They developed some of the most innovative things, you know, the VCR.
And I had a neighbor of mine who had a PhD in flow. He
was all about ink and the way it flowed, and he would do experiments
in his oven and stuff. So you get all these brilliant people. This
is not a very transient community. Most people come here and they stay here.
Most of the guys could have been a Steve Jobs type, but they
didn't want to. They wanted the security of a job, and so they
sold basically anything they patent was owned by Kodak. Right, That's why you
know the digital camera and all these things got sold off to other things,
but they were invented by the brilliant minds here. Those brilliant minds stayed here,
they reproduced and that's why you have a lot of really pockets of this
area that have big companies, brilliant minds, all that right here that I
think wants this city to succeed, but there seems to be a barrier to
do it. And I don't know what that is. It's some mentality.
It really comes out some mentality because we say that we need a city with
a lot of jobs available for not just people who want to get into you
know, a job market, but also people who want to manage. There's
a shit son of jobs out there available right now. Yeah. And there's
an industries that I have loved, beats in my district. Who would have
thought African beat company would be that huge. Yeah. You know, we
have a company that's um taking the batteries from vehicles and yes, recycling them
was life cycle. Yeah, and it's it's so needed, it is so
needed. I have such an issue with the electric car in the fact that
I get it. I've driven them. They're fantastic. I see the appeal
you have one. No, okay, but whatno, I don't. I
guess there's a truck out there that eats more. But but I but what
do you do with those batteries? Right? They're awful, They're horrible,
they're we're not talking about that. It's not a good situation. But life
cycle. We're doing it here in the city, right, Yes, and
then and you're right, those are things that need to be spotlighted more.
Absolutely. Yeah, there's there's a ton of businesses in specifically my district about
I have about the sesame street that have These are the people in your neighborhoo.
I see a video man with you going these are the people in your
neighborhood and spotlighting marketing idea. You know what I'm saying. It's like something
like that that these are the people in your neighborhood. These are the people
in your city that are making a tick. And if you want a job,
they'll help you. Yeah, you know you want to work, yes,
come on, yeah, you're ready. Right. The problem is we
started a financial education, financial empowerment center right with a city. So if
you want to learn about savings, you can go to this place. They'll
help you with your credit'll help you with your taxes, they'll help you with
building. See, it's the meeting the halfway that I said earlier, right,
So the opera stuff is there to meet halfway. How do we get
people to say this is the right way? And then on top of it,
it's there exactly? Well that too, that too, people don't know
it's there. And then after that, where is the financial empowerment at that
point? Look, having good credit, it's fantastic. You need good credit.
Having a saving account, it's great. What does that mean in a
long scirt, in a long scheme, what does that mean for your financial
empowerments for your family, for your kids? You know, there's no next
step. It's like we're putting band aids all over a place in the city.
All the city is is band aids. We are not stopping the bleeding.
We are not stopping the bleeding. And that's the issue. Yeah,
that's it. But it seems like there's so much bleeding. Where do you
focus first? Start? Where do you focus first? And I think that
like city school district. Yeah, when you hit that city, school district
is everything. But even there, what do you do because you have guys
who have to asked me what's well? Yeah, because well here's the thing.
Take it over. I'm thinking, like the city takes over. Take
city council, city, not the mayor, city council, because the mayor
is one person. Yes, a problem with the city is we are,
in my opinion, we are a strong mayor city. So the mayor guides
everything. Yeah, well, the police chief serves at the pleasure exactly.
Yeah. All commissioners answer to the mayor. So when it comes to city
council, I'm a district councilman. I represent one fourth of the entire city.
And if I sit there and say, hey, I need some help
over here with police, like okay, we'll see if we can provide something
for you. What do you mean, I'm telling you what the issues are
we need? We need to answer that, and we don't have we don't
have the power as city council members the mayor. Now is that unique to
Rochester or I mean, look, these are problems that we've been talking about
today, whether it be the key of boys, or school issues or guns
or any that are plaguing metropolitan areas across the country. You know, you
just go ninety miles in the other Like you said, metropolitan areas in city
because everyone says it's happening all across the country. No, No, it's
metropolitan areas around there's certain city, Yes it is, and and so.
But you look in Buffalo. Do they have the same kind of city structure?
They don't. Now now I shouldn't say that. Sorry, they're not
having the same issues we're having either, because we can go ahead over there
and ask them, is it a strong mayor is it a city that controls
us? The city school, by the way, didn't win the primary he
wanted with our freaking write in. That's amazing. Yeah, that's but that's
the power of the people, that is right, that's getting people out and
going what do we really want here? Well, and that's another issue,
having the cities that the power of the people are. People don't have a
voice anymore. Are We have a huge plethora of Latinos from all over the
world and none of them vote. I don't see them and none of them
vote. So you get the biggest district that is actually growing for Latinos is
the Charlotte area. Is Northwest District. And I'm sitting there saying, we
don't have anything for them, nothing for them to help them to. They
came from Mexico, they came from Cuba, they came from Puerto Rico during
Hurricane Maria. And what are we what are we doing now? Like we
have amazing people who want to work hard, hard, But when we start
them off with hey, come here, and then we're gonna give you a
monthly stipend every month just because you're in New York, just because you don't
have a job, just because we need to help you. Here's twelve hundred
dollars a month to live here. Yeah, why would they ever go doing
things? Let me ask you, how do you okay that you just answered
it? You don't like this. I don't like a lot of things.
Okay, what I mean? What helping somebody, but help helping somebody get
on their feet. Huh Okay. It's one thing. It's one thing.
But I would always equate it to if you give a teenager a car versus
they earn the money to buy it themselves, right, you know, exactly
a kid a car and look at it in a year and get and have
a kid buy a car that they earn the money for and look at it
in a year and tell me which one's which guarantee you can exactly. Yeah,
And that's the thing, is that we need to empower the people and
then but also give them something to look forward to. What is that they're
getting empowered for? Because what is there in the city to look forward to?
Honestly, how the hell are you going to be mayor how is that
going to happen? People don't want to hear this shit. It makes too
much sense. There are people I do want to hear it. There's a
lot of people I want to hear it. Get fun of you, but
no, No, But it's a it's a great question because it's going to
go against everything that is. The democratic part is to be very blunt.
Well, it feels like almost as though and maybe I'm wrong, but you
know, as we're talking, and maybe I am being I don't know,
skewed in one way. You're very persuasive. No, I almost as though
it's a big machine. Oh yeah, do you know what I'm saying.
It's like a big machine where we get to, you know, kind of
protect ourselves within this bubble and talk a whole bunch of shit, but do
nothing, and that's not fixing anything. And then you come along and you're
like poking holes in that bubble and and I don't think people like that.
Well it's not just me. You have your own podcast now as well,
which is fantastic because now we have the citizen voice. Yeah, now we
have people speaking up and saying you don't have to listen to the mainstream news
media of this, because what it is is that there's a certain group who
has controlled the area. And I'm not trying to be conspiratory or at all.
There's a certain group that kind of controls the area. They tend to
be Democrat, and then the media follows that. But man, you're Democrat,
right are you? But that's a problem is that they will attack you
if you come from the opposite end, if you're a Republican or conservative,
they will attack you. How about we go away I know that labeling things
now, right, we talked about this, so the Social Justice school,
all that labeling, it's very popular. Yea, what if we took away
political labels and just said, be fantastic, can we do that? Could
we strip that away? New York took that away. You can't have a
third party in New York. I know that's terrible. It is, that's
terrible because now you have to be one or the other right. But but
you wish that you could almost strip it away and go, here's what I
stand for. And I'm not gonna be all read on this issue or all
blue on this issue, or I'm gonna have maybe you know, straddle or
maybe we can find a common ground right for things. And here's why.
That's the thing, here's why because I was raised this way, and I
know for a fact more Latinos were raised in a more conservative way. I
was raised Republican, hardcore. Yeah. Like I was a Baptist churchgoer three
times a week, going to like a second of Latino Baptists. Yeah yeah,
what happened to Catholic Penticosto is usually what they are on here. My
mom married a white boy who is a Baptist. There you go, that's
it, mom, you love it. I love it. You know.
Foreigner had a song called dirty White Boy. They did. I don't know,
Luke Graham, it's just birthday. He played that next day. Yeah,
we could uh interesting, very interesting, uh speaking in white people,
there's a problem like you think you got problems in the city. I love
that interlude in Today. Yeah, well there is. There's a real problem
that's happening with white folks lately, that it's most middle aged white folks.
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Collins, Dirty White Boy? Oh that's right, had me seventy three to
Louke Graham that is foreigner and Dirty White Boy kid Rockney's at redo that song.
Yeah, actually, you know what, that's a good idea to put
a little money in loose pockets? Have you got to vice? Actually right,
it's not man at all. Now. I know it's not in sync,
but they were kind of a boy man at one point. They were
all there. They were all there, right, it's instant hat some big
hits. You know who wrote one of the biggest hits, Richard Marx.
You're familiar with Richard mark I bet you d probably Well, now, what
year what years were you in high school? Nineties? I was in nineties,
yes, yeah, so well, growing up as a Baptist, I
wasn't really allowed to listen to pop culture, so I had like way to
high school to listen to music. Yeah, so I was only like oldies
ninety eight nine, yeah, yeah, yeah, so it was all like
fifties and sixties. Yeah, oh god, that's funny. Well you have
a good education and kind of what was I think? So, but I'm
like the decade before all the songs you're playing, So it's like the sixty
safeties and six you put on the Golden Ages, you know, a nighttime
what do you call those infomercials, And I'm singing along to those things like
black and White and I'm loving that, And then you played all the good
rocking room music. I'm like, oh, man, well that hit hims
or something. This, I promise you was written by Richard Marks. That's
such a good song. Yeah, he wrote that song. Um, and
I always thought Richard Marks is one of the most talented writers in uh in
music. Are you a big fan of Justin Timberlake? I am, yeah,
kind of, like I always found it impressive, Like I always found
him very impressive, funny, uh personable, and whenever I see him on
talk shows and stuff, seems to be friendly with this a pretty good actor
too. Loved him in two movies Social Network. Huh Trouble with the Curve
with Clint Eastwood. Do you ever see it? I never saw that one
with the Curve. Yes, he's a scout. Cliniast would just scout.
I think, I know he's talking like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's I thought he was great in both those. Oh and he was
in French with Benefits. Yeah that was kind of whacking. Yeah, well,
I was all right. I mean, yeah, that's beautiful. It's
your song right here, not my song. Mirrors is my my my justin
Timberlakes song. But I'm a bigger Michael Jackson fan. I'm a much bigger
Michael Jackson fan. Oh you are big time. I think Michael Jackson is
one of the most talented ever by fire. You know, Um, can
you imagine being that popular any country and everybody knows, you know. I
think that that level of fame is addictive and also life altering and destroying.
Yeah, yeah, you've got to almost go. You're almost gonna be a
little nuts by out everywhere you go, guess to be able to go,
right, it's on the five year plan. We're getting there. Okay,
cool us, you got a plan, got a financial empowerment center. They'll
help you get there. Now do you do you help with the financial empowerment
center? No? I would, uh? I would I help with like
a CCCS credit Consumer Counseling Centers of Rochester. I worked with them before.
Okay, I'm on credit. I said that there's a problem, um for
for I would. I was gonna say dirty white boys, but and then
that that's kind of what it is. It's a problem in the suburbs.
Okay, Now, we've had a story about this earlier this week. I
don't know that this has happened locally, but it certainly could. What's that
problems on the golf course? We're middle aged men are getting into fisticuffs.
We watched we watched a video of like a group of guys. One guy
tackle one into a sand pit and the other gets up on the green and
fighting and the bunker. Yeah, no, no, no, this was
because no, these are middle aged guys. Because the kid who's filming it,
he says, quick, quick, quick, it again will go viral
because these guys are fighting, but they're forty five to fifty five years old.
And then listen to this and the man we spoke to is dealing with
serious injuries. A doctor himself, he says he could have died, and
all of this happening in this normally quiet and safe community. Body camp videos
shows deputies arresting Eddie Orrabit on the Harbor Hills golf course. Eddie Orbit by
the way, Dennis Dennis, who advertises his light touch nas surprise that is
happening. The victim tells us this is why sharing this photo of his brutal
injuries. I mean I nearly died. That's the thing that scared me.
And Joseph Sibak says he lost consciousness, has broken ribs, fractured cheek bones,
and had to get his ear stitch together. And he says it all
started while he and his wife were taking their regular walk around the neighborhood.
Briefly walking over the card path just starts. Somebody screaming and swearing has coming
up really fast behind us. After some arguing, Sivak says, the man
spat in his face, then hit him both of his hands and with a
golf club, the deadly weapon. And had he been struck just in the
right place, I mean, it could have been much much worse, Sivak
says, even to what he had always known to be a very safe neighborhood,
returning to his regular white on white crime, that's what okay, went
Tiger's ex wife onal with the golf club bashing things. So allegedly the deists
had his son with him, and so no one really knows kind of what
happens. But the guy that's talking to the camera looks to be over fifty
maybe fifty five, has a black eye, has like caught some of his
ass, got his ass whoop. Now here's my question. All men have
an ego. Masculinity is called into question. What do we do now?
I get like, if your first instinct is to hit in a situation,
I always think there's something wrong with you. It's not appropriate. No,
but what does your wife say, like you, she watched you get your
ass kicked, and I'm sure she feels terrible. But privately, I'm just
wondering, you got divorce them. You got divorce them immediately. Like I'm
not saying go out there and just start fighting people, but if you get
spat on and then you get your ass whoops? Yeah, man, I
mean I'm sorry. I was going she's gotta be secretly ashamed in some way,
but they didn't shows that she left with the dentist's now been that son's
mom. But now what if you didn't fight back? If you go,
look, this isn't the right answer. Hey, calm down, Calm down.
And even if you just took some defensive moves in some way. But
I gotta tell you. I don't know about you, but if I get
hit, like, my thing isn't to retreat, I could get into a
blinding rage. That's the difference. Like, you know, I boxed a
lot, so if getting a hit, if you get hit, it's like
I don't want to shy away. Now I'm like, oh and here we
go. I'm too short, so I automatically think you're trying to kill me.
Okay, so therefore I must kill you first. Yeah, so that's
why I can't. I can't get in a fight right and with my background
and wrestling, it's gonna take it to the ground. I'm gonna beat you
anyways. Yes, so I rather does not, and so I back up.
You know, I say that, dude, I don't want to we
don't need to go through this because I'm thinking usually at this these ages that
these guys are, and knowing some guys who play golf and stuff, a
lot of drinking can happen. A lot of drinking can happen on the top.
My wife will probably watch this and figure out that I haven't been playing
eighteen holes, only nine holes and just getting drunk every hole. Sort of
walking path could be traumatic living here. It's really shattered, you know,
our world view of the neighborhood and this this area us. It's gonna be
hard to game back any trust. This wasn't the only sounds like a yeah.
I was just gonna say, you sound like a giant. Plus yeah,
dude, that's that's what's really Yeah, don't do an interview afterwards,
a cry about it? All right, take your ass whip and walk now.
Unless he's looking to get some kind of payday out of it. You
know, Dennis may have some deep pockets. So you don't talk that.
You're let your lawyer do it. Only instance of golf course violence over the
weekend in Central Florida. This video, captured as the one we just told
you about, shows two foursomes fist fighting after an argument over pace of play.
Oh come, yeah, that's what they do. And the man who
was arrested here yesterday told deputies who was actually the man we spoke to who
instigated the fight. Now, we tried calling Eddie or a bit to get
his side of the story today, we weren't able to reach him. Reporting
live in Lady Lake, Conorhanson, Fox thirty five News. Now, do
they have any would there be a fight on any of the golf courses in
the city. There's one right out by Duran Right. We have beautiful golf
courses in my area. We got the rain, we got Lake Shore,
we got Shore Acres as well. Yeah, uh no, there's no fights
out there. It's perfectly commons what I'm saying. Right, they're better behaved.
Right, you go to raven Wood, though, I mean sometimes she
can't do that. You you mothy just I've been drinking. Yeah yeah,
just mouthy at Lake Shore. Oh no, mouthy to other or your your
own crew or other people. A little bit of column, A little bit
of column, ba got you? Okay, Well you'll be careful of that
stuff. I'm not good enough and golf to talk junk to the other team.
Yeah, Like I'll talk to my buddy that I'm playing with but I'm
not going Yeah. People that complain about pace of play, shut up and
drink drink. Yeah, well it's usually a beautiful day. Where do you
gotta go home to my kids and wife? Yeah, but they should know
to move over. I move over and go ahead and play because I want
to take my time. I want to be here all day. Yes,
well, look our seasons and run or don't last to day? Right right?
We got a bonus a couple of weeks ago. That's it. Yeah.
Even if it's nice, you go to freaking Duran, it's gonna be
watered down. Yeah, underwater. Yeah. One other things? Do any
do we miss anything that you would like to mention at all? The if
it's okay to name drop my podcast as well, politically correcting podcast with Josepo.
We're actually doing very well. I'm afraid to get sponsors because of how
much junk we talk. I don't say junk, I mean that it's me
myself. I got Lavelle, who's a black man who's an independent, and
I've got Austin who's a we say, the raging liberal. He's also a
satanist and atheist. Okay, so there's a dynamic conversation that's being happened between
a Latino, a black guy, and a white guy and talks about politics
and social issues of the day and what I want to bring to people.
And that's why I'm so happy you had me on the show, is that
people can have a conversation about things and you can disagree about it. Yes,
just listen to the conversation and have a conversation, and then when you
have the facts, make a decision. At that point, I'm what's side.
I wouldn't even say side at this point because it's so far less,
so far right, and most people were right here. Yeah, they're most
people right here in the middle where we just we may disagree on one way
or the other, but we're not going to fight about it. We start
to say, like, I really think you need to governor govern excuse me,
you've become a governor, but you need to kind of you know,
rule. Some things need to be made from the middle. I would you
think that we need laws all that need to come from the middle. I
agree, And so we're trying to bring that out into the forefront. And
I say we I'm trying to be vociferous about it because I've seen what the
news has done to me where they've they've provided a one narrative about me.
And I'm sitting there saying, even when I do a good interview with them,
they'll cut it up to nothing. And I'm saying, that's not what
I said my wife every time she's like, why do you do an interview?
Then I'm because I have to. I have to be out in the
public eye so people will see that it's okay to be a middle of the
ground guy. Yeah, you know, it's okay to lean one way or
the other way on any given conversation, because right now it just seems like
New York State is just one side and one sided only, so everyone is
escaping to Florida. Well, when everybody escapes, where we're gonna be left
with. We need to have people willing to fight and say let's meet in
the middle. Yeah, right, that's all I want. Okay, I
like it, and I hope you're a future mayor. I hope that it
will have to happen. I hope you follow through that it's a big undertaking.
Oh, it's a huge undertaking. Yeah, it's gonna it's gonna be
a pretty penny So yes, Yeah, maybe you'll get people behind it.
They are already there. It's it's there's a lot of groundwork being already done.
It when it's ready, it's it's gonna burst out. Yeah good.
I hope you still come back on the podcast and talk to the little people.
You let me know. I'm always ready to talk. All right.
All right for jose Po who you have your own website. I have multiple
websites, so I have. What I do is I help business. I
connect businesses to either money to help them grow or finance to buy out another
company, or I help mentor them to grow from a self entrepreneur to then
a company. Because I have the background I have. I know all about
business. Uh so I businesses out there. Whatever you can do. If
you want to move into the city, yeah I can help you with that
as well. On the political end, and if you want to grow as
a business or maybe you want to sell. I'm buying businesses as well.
I have a landscaping company, plowing company, proper maintenance company, a cleaning
company. I'm getting into a hardscaping company as well that does excavating because there's
gonna be a lot of work that's gonna be done in the city in the
next couple of years, and someone's gotta make money on it, right,
I know, I hear you. And as Latino, Yeah, I'm telling
you, they're throwing money if you are, if you are Latino or black,
watching this or listening to this, okay, So like minority business,
they're throwing money at you if you identify as okay, if you identify as
a personal color okay, because they can't confirm or deny. Right, I'm
not saying to do that. I would suggest you'd be very careful not to
if it could blow up your face. However, I hear you, man,
why not. There's a city out there. Did you see heifies as
a black lesbian. Yeah, woman, and they're coming after him. He's
like, look, this is what you I just wanted. How am I
supposed to confirm that? I don't know. Yeah, it's crazy, but
that's what we need to do that. We need to show how crazy it
can be, how crazy it can be. Yep, that is absolutely true,
Jose Peel. It has been a pleasure. I hope I don't get
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I'm sorry, thanks for having me on. You got it. We'll
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