Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to the act Lite Star Wars The
Acolyte Review, Episode three. I am I forgot to do this last week.
I usually this is all Star Wars, so I got to bring it
back. It's been a hot minute. But I am the number one kyl
of Ren fanboy, trust Snell, and I'm joined by the controversial Taylor Field.
Controversial Taylor Field. Oh my goodness, maybe you have some hot takes
in here. Maybe he thinks Star Wars was destroyed. I don't know,
but yes, no Kirkland, because he is I think he might be on
news, but it's a combo of he has supposedly Shay's birthday and then also
he's packing for a trip because he's gonna be gone for a little bit.
So we're gonna hold down the fort so we won't get to hear his thoughts
about Accolade until maybe next week, if not two weeks from now. But
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very much appreciate that everything helps us out. So, yes, we're here
to talk about the accolades. So, mister Field obviously been a lot of
buzz in our Discord, been a lot of buzz in general, because I
just Discord, there's all these people saying, oh, episode three, there's
some there's some stuff in there, and it is a different type of episode
for multitude or reason. So one, did you like it? And then
two, what are your nonspore thoughts? Oh? Okay, so this episode.
I loved it. I thought it was great. I thought it was
it was really really awesome. I have like non spoilers. I mean,
it was just it was exciting. I felt like I was getting Phantom Menace
vibes in here, and in like a distorted dystopian kind of way, but
it was just kind of hitting these keynotes that I really really enjoyed. And
uh, I'm watching through the episode and with Madison of course, and I
told her about the whole dilemma going on, and people kind of saying whatever
about this episode and we're trying to pick apart. Okay, is this the
moment where this is where people are kind of feeling a little iffy on and
then another thing happens like, oh no, that's got to be the moment.
Nothing happens. Oh no, that's got to be the moment. And
really there wasn't really anything super super bad. Well, I definitely can identify
what I'm assuming is the thing that people are very much. I'm excited for
you to tell me what it is. You don't know what it is.
I think I think I know what it is. And if it is what
I think it is, then it's like the most lowest year. But it's
been done before. We've seen it before in Star Wars too. Again,
that doesn't mean it's good, but it's something that is familiar and it just
kind of goes to show that in Star Wars. Really, if I say
that that's a spoiler, there there are things you can do in Star Wars
that people might not really like. It's very much out there from what the
original trilogy is, obviously, but there are things that they've adapted over time.
You've seen in the Clone Wars even where they've done certain things where it
just kind of it. It makes sense like you can you can tap into
this certain kind of narrative with a certain type of character, and you can
pull off a certain type of storyline and trying to be as vague as possible,
A certain this, a certain that. Yeah, so I don't I
don't feel like everyone is everyone is entitled to feel however they want. But
I don't feel like it's necessarily warranting all this overreaction in this craziness. I
mean, I feel like a damn. I got a great Star Wars episode.
I got some juicy stuff in here, and I had a good time
with it. Yeah. So for me, I'm it's the tale of two
things. All that stuff like that about the destroying Star Wars or this or
Jump, I don't think there's anything. I think there's two things. That's
one like a political one where I'm like that I don't care about, and
another one when we're going to spoil someone about maybe how people feel the Force
is being used. But for me, I it's tough because I I guess
I'll to spoilers, but it doesn't affect me because I've also had things in
about the Force that I don't like. I think the I like the structure
of this episode. I wanted a similar type of episode. It's not exactly
what I pitched, but it's like the idea of, oh, it'd be
cool if they do this, because a lot of times I feel like the
Disney Plus and Story's episodes don't do the kount of pocket episodes where it's like,
let's take a break. I remember they did Man Laurian and a lot
of people hated it with the guy that was the turnco cloner guy, and
Katie Bryan was in there. Remember Kirklan hated that episode where it's all about
the empire. So I like that, but and I feel like lots of
people, maybe in the mainstream, don't. But I think if you've got
a great character or great story in a pocket episode, it's worth it.
And that's all says. They did it here, and I thought it was
a great use of it, usage of it. I liked a lot of
the lower stuff with the group we met, I really liked. I gotta
find out the actress's name who played a mother. I'll just say because I
know I think she had like a hit HBO show, and I know she's
been in other things, but I don't think I've seen her in anything,
and man, she was damn good. Like now I'm gonna go look into
these things she's done because she was just like flawless, like flawless performance,
So that was good. I think I had much like Episode one, in
episode two, I had issues with the ending of the episode, more so
with this. This is one where I kind of have to walk on eggshells
because I don't know if I don't like the ending because it's poor writing,
or if there's kind of a mistrecked or something going on. I still have
a few things that I think are some poor writing where I go, this
doesn't make sense, or we needed more time to stew on this, or
we need more examples. I think sometimes there was maybe a there's one particular
large leap that I just couldn't buy into. But I also really liked it.
It took me on a journey I was not expecting, and from the
first two episodes when we thought, you know, the story of what the
Twins would be, I think this puts it in a very much different light,
and I really like that. So overall positive, The ending is like
a wade and see. Even though I do have some gripes of I didn't
like that to enjoy that, But yeah, so far, I don't know
where i'd rank it among the other two. I think they're kind of the
same. If there's certain things, like there has to be an explanation for
the thing I have a problem with at the end, and hopefully it is
a fulfilling one, because if not, then this would easily be just like
if I have what I have now would easily be the last episode and the
one I enjoyed the least. But I really liked a lot of the things
that happen here, So overall, I'm still enjoying about the same. But
I'm very curious to see the follow up on I don't even know what will
happen next week, but within these next few episodes. Again, I still
wish the run time was better. But at the same time, there's many
great shows that are like, look at X Men, right, that's a
half hour and a half an hour we didn't have. We never watched those
episodes being like, oh the run time right. So at the same point,
I sometimes maybe I gotta stop blaming that because it is we talk about
on the discord. It's like, so's just like what can you do with
the time? Right? So, yeah, is there anything else nonspoys you
want to get to? I got nothing. That fucking beeping Taylor's back.
I don't know what it is. The fucking people that don't know on other
cats you can't hear it, luckily, just annoys me. So I'm not
sure if it's like all these usbes put together? What do I have my
rights here? I don't have another I don't even have another stupid mac air
books. You know, all these used bs dowshes down to two. That's
so annoying, but you know, I will power through, but it's gonna
just drive me out the fucking wall. Hopefully you don't hear every ten seconds
great spoiler's review. We're gonna get into it right after this. Okay,
and we are back. So yeah, let's start with what do you think
is like the is? I guess we want to Is it really just that
because there's like a gay couple in Star Wars and it's gonna be okay,
you have you have two females, a female that carry the twins, another
female that god are pregnant. Yes, that's that's that's one hundred percent.
I'm calling now what people are pissed off about. What's the issue? Are
people pissed off? Because, I mean, they didn't cover it in Phantom
Menace, but technically, if you read comics, you know Palpatine was doing
it. So I mean the Force. Are you pissed off that Force users
and this isn't exclusively a syth lord like a male thing only that they can
do. I mean, if you're powerful in the Force, which these are
witches, so of course they're gonna be doing some fucked up shit. I
think it's totally justified and fair that they created something like this. They were
cast out, and people need to calm the fuck down. This is where
it felt like a Clone Wars episode mixed in with the Phantom Menace, and
I was eating all this up. I thought it was great. Sorry,
go ahead, No, no, no, I like I guess that's why
for me, I just didn't have a problem with it, because it's just
like you said, it's stuff we've seen before, even without the comic.
I think, like there's enough illusions in the one, there's enough illusions in
the prequel trilogy that Palpatine created Anakin just out of thin air. And I'm
saying that lightly, but because they used the Force right, and then I
just feel like even I was there like a maybe, I guess it's not
I thought there was stuff in one of the original scripts that Lowe that,
but to me, it's just either Way Anakin. It was just created out
of nothing, and I'm it's I'm fine with these kids being created and nothing.
They're witches and it's just stuff we've seen before so that I don't really
have an issue with. But let's see, here we go. Hopefully this
is all right. Comment Derek Lewis, is am I pissed off? Question
mark? I mean no, but this will split the fandom. You're going
to lose the Normies, and the Normies you lose the franchise. But like
what, Like I guess my issue is what is what is the key issue?
Like what is the issue that's going to split the franch Like I don't
believe that. I really don't because I think it's the die hard people,
but the mainstream people, I don't think they're gonna be like, oh my
god, these two created a Force baby. They're not even gonna remember that
Palpatine did. They're just gonna be like, oh, that's something that happened
in Star Wars. Like, I don't think this is a key make or
break. I think the key maker break is if the show overall is well
written in people like the characters. Of course you can take some big leaps.
But I think this is just purely on the minds of Star Wars fans
and junkies being like I hate this, Like I don't think so, you
know, I don't see any thing the orgy ritual thing I I I don't
know, like, I don't think it's a I guess I get what you're
insinuating as far as it being the group and everything, but I don't think
it's like if it was an actual orgy, this is the allegory for an
orgy. Right If we opened up this show and it just started with like
thirty women purely nude getting it on, I wouldn't have a problem with that.
But I could see someone being like, hey, this is primarily a
family friendly franchise. There's you know, like I never think Stars has to
get to that territory of dark or adulthood. So that's where I would go,
Oh, it was actual orgy, sure, but to me, like
the Dapha mere kids, like the Dafmere witches have done the same thing in
Star Wars, Like, how did they I don't know what the differences of
an orgy is of them chanting to them bringing back Darth Maul's brother, you
know, if them all standing together their powers are, Like, didn't they
do that? Was Darth Maul's mother or just Darth Malvajo press they brought him
back? Right? Yeah, no, well they brought back mall right.
They give him his legs and all that kind of show. Yeah, So
to me, I don't think there's any difference of this is just okay,
there's twelve people doing it opposed to four witches doing it and they're all chanting,
and they're connected by green stuff and they're chanting and chanting and the thing
comes live. Like I don't think it was I think the same way like
these daf or these witches were almost an allegory for being a sexual orientation or
being you know, not just like a white straight male or anything. But
I don't think they're sovert where I think that there's people that have a real
issue with themselves because Star Wars has always been political, so I don't think
it's anything to to really crow about in my opinion, so what but what
is the what are the parameters of normis just the GA So we're going out.
Yeah, I don't think like I don't. Yeah, I the guy
you'd have to if Derek would say that, But I don't maybe, but
I don't think. I don't think Ahsoka there was anything in Ahsoka same thing.
I was like, oh, we love like this show. What they
gave out the stats. Ahsoka did fourteen million and five days and this did
eleven. It is lower, but at the same time, no characters,
no big stars, no air or anything like that. So I think it's
pretty good. The whole thing will be, though, is if we get
to meet Ahsoka two, and if they're really low, like we talked about
with Manda where Mandal War and three started really low and it did start to
climb. But yeah, I just don't think that. It's like it's stuff
that's happened in Star Wars, it's happened in Clone Wars. So to me,
it's just and you can say if you don't like that, that's fine,
that's that's okay. But I don't the argument of oh man, this
is something crazy and new, it's gonna ruin Stars. I really don't think
so. I think it's stuff we've seen before. So that's been It has
been stuff we've seen before. It's been very much, i'd say represented in
many Star Wars games, especially the new like Jedi Survivor Fallen Order, right
that you really get to the Mercus there. Of course, that's post Lucas
Sarah, that's post Lucas Arts. But even then there's the other games like
Star Wars Forces of Corruption, Empire War. You got data Marian magic going
on, and there, you got a whole bunch of things that have just
been at play. And I feel like it's not anything new, of course,
and yet and that's what I was gonna ask, is RJ thinks I
see you know, good to see in there. I want to like,
specifically, this is not an attack. I want you to say, like,
I can see why it would divide the fans. Tell me, And
I'm not gonna say it wrong because Derek said why I thought it would vide
for me? I don't think so, Like I don't think anything I've seen
here the gay stuff, No, I don't think that like, Okay,
yes it would divide, but I mean like for me of anything me wrong.
Okay, characters a okay, cool baby is created. Cool. I
guess there's an orgy. Cool, there's allegories for racism and sexism and sexual
orientation. Cool. That's like all these things have been done. So that's
why I just don't know where if it would divide the phantom. I just
want to know, like, who's the fanom it's dividing? Is it already
the people that are making the woke Red Eye thumbnails because they're already divided.
I'm saying, like it it's odd because I feel like it would be division
of like me and Taylor who have very different views and Star Wars, but
if we came here in Beaufort, this is you know, he's one way
and I'm the other. I don't think so I don't think it would divide
any people that it haven't, you know. So that's my thing. So
yeah, RJ put that in the chat. Why do you think? Because
I want to know because I like if people, and I also don't think
it destroys Star Wars. Nothing destroys Star Wars. The thing that destroys Star
Wars is bad content. Now, if you want to argue for bad writing
and bad this and that, then sure, I'm open all day with that
because I think Star Wars has had those issues. I think with Mandalorian and
Boafette, I think just like the Marvel stuff, where with the kind of
fatigue, I think it's just like a lot of bad projects that have happened.
So, okay, RJ came back says, I think it's mostly the
stuff regarding the twins being created by the Force. Child born in the Force
is meant to be something made Anakin special and unique. Now that you remove
that, okay, so from that perspective of Anakin's not special anymore, so
I can't say people could be wrong. So that's one thing where I could
say, Okay, I can see a little bit that doesn't affect me because
I just feel like it's something that could happen. And I don't know if
it's special because there's argument of if he's the chosen one, right, that's
still debate all the time of if it's Luke and that, and I don't
think there is a chosen one because the evil keeps on going. So to
me, I guess it's not as big of a thing where it is an
issue, but I can see why people might have an issue with that because
I am someone that I think with I love Luke Skywalker, fair Jedi,
and I feel like having Ah Soca Ezra all these Jedis around the same time
as New Hope, I think that does lessen Luke Skywalker. So for me,
I don't think it does as far as I don't think it makes anything
less special. But if someone were to feel that way, I understand,
I understand. But at the same time, like I said, it is
in the canon of people doing these things, right, I'd have to look
at the whole chosen one kind of prophecy and like it doesn't list that it's
it's a person born from non childbirth or is it a bunch of other things?
Right, Because even the books me and Taylor read they list things,
but I don't think they've ever given out the prophecy. So if there's not
a line of prophecy saying this is the only person that will be born like
not unnaturally, then you can kind of do I think whatever. So that's
not one that would bug me. But and I don't think again, like
I don't think the people that love Anakin are gonna love them any less because
it's not this isn't like a George move, you know. So, I
mean, let's see here. The Prophecy was one of hundreds of obscure legends
maintained by the Jedi Order, though its origins remain unknown. It was thought
to have been created by the earliest Jedi philosophers after the creation of the Lactic
Republic, but before the Jedi assumed an active role in it. Now,
I think, so, what does that pertain? None of the birth stuff
pertains to Anakin, right specifically, that's something that happens. But you could
say that multiple people doing things in the series are oh well, they're special
because of X, Y and C. So I guess that that's something you
hold to your heart then sure. But I just feel like there's multiple examples
of a character doing something and then other people doing it. Whether you like
that or not, of course, but so there's whether you see it detract
or not. Like this I feel like is not a shared perspective, And
I know you don't share it, Travis, because you stand on that that
that us all the good guys winning. That's that's yeah, that's that's where
you stand. Yeah, And so for me, I see it as okay,
Anakin he fulfilled that prophecy. He defeated the Sith, the Sith died
with him in a retroactively like Disney retroactively undid that. And I feel like
that sequel trilogy undid that more than anything this episode would have done, touching
upon Anakin being born of the Force and retroactively affecting him in his significance.
And just one more thing too. The Jedi have no idea that these twins
were made through the Force and through well we don't know that yet, right,
That could be a reason why they're there, because don't's dad. Yeah,
they asked where's the father? And here's one thing where that's where.
Yeah, j you can answer your question where you go. Plus they're like
you already answer. But plus the redefine what the Force means. That doesn't
mean anything. George Lucas redefined the Force meaning himself in the original trilogy.
It was something you could feel in the prequel. It's a blood test,
and to me, it's just like what in this episode too? Well,
yeah, yeah, exactly right, and it's it's like, ta, can
you tell me the definitive version origin of God and Jesus? You can't because
everybody has like a difference even if you don't believe in it. People have
different My point is there, you can admit that there's not one peer.
This is the god. This is everyone's God, right, everyone has a
different God or what they look up or they don't look up to. So
for me, now I've accepted that I don't like the Medichlorians. That's the
George method, and that's where it's like for me, it's already like they've
we've been here before and Star Wars was destroyed and then they come back and
I again, I see Derek in the chat. I don't think it will
have a steep drop off. I think it has a step drop off.
It's because people don't invest a show. I don't think the general audience has
watched its being like, oh my god, they're redefining the Force. I
don't think so. I think they're just wanting to be entertained. And that's
a question of I people will not be entertained by this episode because it could
be looked at as dull. I enjoyed it, But for me, the
force being redefined doesn't matter because it is their interpretation, that's their culture.
It's the same way we look at it, right, it's the same way
people in our world look at religion. Everybody can. People can like there
are churches that come from the same Bible that some people are gonna say,
Hey, if you have a kid at weblock, you're going to hell or
that's completely fine. We have churches here everywhere right where. Hey, if
you're gay or anything else, you're not accepted. And then we have a
church downtown that literally has a rainbow flag, and not because it's due,
it has all the times saince. Everyone's accepted to be the opposite of that
right, And that's thing that to me is like the religion force thing that
just doesn't bug me because like that's how they interview it. There's no answer
and what the force still is, even though George kind of still said,
like to me, it is like it's unfortunately like a thing in your body
count you know, like like it's like our likes, it's like a strength
or testastrone. I don't like that. I still go with, hey,
what is Star Wars? Like, what is the force? To me,
it's a feeling something that you can tap in and maybe some people are stronger
than others. I don't like it. Being like a science test. But
that's something George did, right, So I don't think this to me did
anything but the threads and the methods of the Twins. I don't think it
did anything that it hasn't done before. You know, Yeah, I think
like to touch upon the relationship factor between these two witch is, I feel
like you're probably getting a lot of hatred obviously directed towards that, but I
think you're getting a lot of people that and I dare not speak for people.
I am just I'm just saying this based on my own observation, but
I think people are feeling exhausted from just having it portrayed every not every,
but a majority of media's and in different hyps and everything like that. And
so when it hits something that maybe they they're big Star Wars fans, and
then all of a sudden, it's just consistently and start well, it's not
consistently in Star Wars. We had one scene in Rise of Skywalker, and
I think that's the only other time and so yeah, yeah, it was
very brief. But then I think people like this being the first real time
in Star Wars that were really kind of exploring that which they don't even kiss
as well either. They don't even kiss, No, they just do it.
I like caressing. But I think it's I think it's not Star Wars
to blame. It's no one to blame or anything. But I think it's
just it's just being presented in all these different mediums, all on social media,
everything like that. And so when it when it is like, oh,
it's right here again in Star Wars, it's like, well we have
Star Wars. Isn't all the time always this. Star Wars is focusing on
many different aspects and different relationships and dynamics and narratives, And so I think
that is that making sense? I'm trying to I don't want to offend anyone
how I'm saying. I think I get what you mean. But at the
same time, like that's where people, I think, kind of have to
grow up. And it's like culture and art and film and TV and music,
they all change with the times, right, Like that's the thing.
It doesn't just stay. It doesn't just say well, Stars is always this.
It's like it's something that it can't if you always want to be what
it is. Those movies are there, you know, like they're not gone.
They're not going back at anything things and so if it really bugs you,
but it's just like they do these things now the same reason why many
actors of color would get passed over because like, well they can't lead a
film, where nowadays that happens and people get more chances. So I get
what you mean. But then at the same time, I think it's like
the guy from the Eric Krypti or obviously the last name we did the Boys
where he said, like, how do you feelbout people getting offended by like
the Homeland or Trump comparisons, And it's like, then, don't watch a
show. And homelanders supporters, right, they think he's the hero. Well
yeah, and they're mad about that and stuff and that I agree with him.
You just don't watch a show. And that's where it's the same thing,
like Derek, I see you in the chat. You're saying that,
you know, they also dropped off the SOCA. That's the thing where I
still talk about the good and reaction writing what in Ahsoka. Ahsoka didn't do
any big heavy lore retooling. There was no you know, other sexual oriententation,
love interests in there or anything like that. So that's where to me.
It's just like, that's the example right there of you could and there's
many people have talked to said, hey, I didn't like Ahsoka, I
was bored by I didn't like X Y and Z. I liked Ahsoka.
I don't think it was the strongest, but I could see someone be like,
yeah, it wasn't for me. But again, I still think it
comes down to the writing and the characters and what people are in for,
right and we'll see the true success that it will be. If this isn't
goet A season two, then that's a clear message right there. Hey,
hey, it did drop off and it didn't do what they wanted to do.
We never know what they do want to happen. But Phantom just saying,
I'm genuinely confused why people don't like the show. Can someone explain to
me. I've seen a lot of rants about the show, very few made
genuine tempt to honestly evaluate its merits. I think it's tough because you got
to find the right circles. If you're just looking online, it is a
general like, okay, it starts off already female led and a female creator
show that is tough, and it is like it is a tough thing because
I don't want anybody that they don't like the show to feel like you don't
like it because it's a female centric show. And I don't even think it's
like female centric, like it like she is the main character, but I
don't think it is. I don't think it's that way where it's like a
coming age tale, this young lady. I feel like with Soul and her
and some other Jedi stuff, it's kind of pretty bounced. So for me,
it's like it is tough where you walk a fine line where if you
don't like it, you're gonna be throwing that category, which I don't think
should be the case. So so you just have to find it. That's
why to me, stuff like oh, it being like a three out of
ten on IMDb after like before the first episode even airs, you can't really
judge it. So you just gotta find your pockets. Let's say, hey,
join our discord. We like to create those pockets and stuff like that.
But I can see some things of people saying, hey, sometimes it
looks good, but sometimes it looks cheaper, not that well shot. Okay,
fine, if some people are not liking certain characters, that's always a
like a general thing. Right, if there's some people that don't like we've
talked about the tiptoeing of they haven't seen the scyth in a and then you
know the Sith are here and they don't explain that. Then yeah, so
I can see there is, of course things, but I think a lot
of the things are turned to hyperbolic, you know, And that's the problem
of for me. I said this last week where I didn't have any major
issues with this episode or the episodes, but I didn't have major love of
the soul and stuff. That's where I think for me, I'm fine if
the Stars show just continues to be like good and I enjoy it. Where
there is like it has to be the best, there has to be the
worst, or it's saving Stars, or it's destroying Star Wars, right,
like I don't like and who knows, maybe I'll be wrong, maybe that
this is destroying Star Wars and every Star Wars movie bombs and yet da da
da, and we can go back and say, oh, yeah, ACTLTE
was that show, right, because Last Jedi you could maybe argue that too
for some people that that changed things. But to me, Last Jedi was
way bigger than what this would be. And I think that's also because that's
with the main characters. I think the characters meant more to people than the
lore, you know, and even then, like it just destroyed it,
but like it didn't destroy but like, okay, what was the hang on
Last Jedi box office? Over a billion? No, I know that it's
one point three billion, right, and then Rise of Skywalker, I'm pretty
sure that is a billion, so it made about three hundred thou or three
hundred million lasts, so yeah, it's one point zero seven. So this
is a point where, of course I'm not saying and I think the equivalent
of this people could tune out of the show, maybe season two, they
don't come back. But I still think that has to do with more of
the quality of it, because still people said Last Jedi ruined stars, but
you know it's Skywalker's still billion dollar movie. Yes it's a finale all these
main characters, but still it wasn't like a solo or anything, right,
So it's just like, that's why I can't jump to the hyperbolic stuff until
we see the results of it later on, because I don't know what this
is gonna do, because maybe it does, but then I just think I
don't really think it destroys Star Wars. I think it's just the ACTLTE would
fail and then they would just move on, you know, like they would
just k, we're not gonna do any ACTLTE Like the Ryan Johnson trilogy.
Right last Jedi, they really happy with it. We're gonna announce he's doing
a trilogy. The movie is mixed, of course, successful but mixed.
Uh, they've never done the trilogy and they're never gonna, right, And
maybe that's the way. I don't know if Aclite's gonna end in a cliffhanger
way. So for me, I still don't personally see anything. I see
what upsets like the really either crazy people or the people that majority of them
are not actually that upset. They just want to make a red eye thumbnail
so they can get that one hundred K video right, Like, tons of
them don't even care that much. They just know how the system works.
And YouTube is usually or lots of YouTube and social media in general are things
that are fueled by negativity, so that's easier to get the click. So
we'll see, But I don't think and there is here's the thing Aclyte failing
is going to hurt future projects. I only think it would hurt a certain
era of the project. I think it's like what we've talked about is if
it's this era the Knights of a Republic. But I don't think if Aclyte
were to do poorly, they would cancel the Mandal Worrin movie. I don't
see that, you know, like I feel like there's sections of Star Wars
right now and again we'll see because we've heard this before, I oh,
this isn't successful, and then you know a season two and if the season
two gets announced, and for me, it's like, well, they can't
be that unhappy with it, and so I really don't know. I can't
make those things. I don't think it is, in my opinion, hurting
the brand as like a Sony Marvel is to me, where that's like the
bottom of the bottom barrel comic movies that when they see that, I think
there's still enough to enjoy in the show, especially for GA people that don't
just like care that much about the Lord. They just want to see light
sabers and characters they like, and that to me, I don't think.
I don't think hit this year. I have issues with this episode, but
I don't know, I lost my train of thought. I was there a
little bit ago, but I'm not sure where to pick up on that.
I think you basically hit it on the head though, and laid it out.
Yeah, I don't know. I guess. I guess we'll see how
it goes. But for me that was my issue. Is now that my
issue was okay, so we'll get into the actual episod, so now where
it's a full flashback episode or whatever, Like I said, a Palk episode.
Really enjoyed that because I said, I wish we'd get an episode just
focused on May and we didn't get that. But we're kind of getting this
in a way where we're picking up with the girls. Like we talked about,
these are a type of witches. They're not Daft miroritches, but they're
type of witches. They are, you know, using the force. But
again it's I get I don't know, it's much like the Daft mir riches
where sometimes they would talk about things and be like that's kind of changing the
force method too, Like I don't know. So for me, I'm just
kinda fine with it now. But they are training these two students you eventually
learned that you know the main character or I'll have to find other names when
Taylor's going. But our main mother and then the other one with like the
horns. They are a couple, and they gave shit. One gave birth
to twins. One created them. They said they didn't tell us how they
did that, and I'm fine if they don't, because I feel like that
was just them alluding to almost like you're using dark side power. Right.
It's the same way to me as like there's certain things you can't do if
you're a Light side Jedi. So to me, that's just like this version
of a you're using those type of dark forces. So I liked the setup.
I liked the world. I liked meaning of these witches. I liked
the environment For the most part. I liked this weird type of like half
ship area they were at, you know, like I don't know what it
was the building they were at. But so I like seeing like another type
of witch because we've only seen them in Clone Wars, and honestly, they're
coming into Mando and ah Soaka and everything, but I enjoy seeing them so
many years before everything. So they introduced different witches and Tales of the Empire
as well. In the episode were destroyed by Grievous. They showcased in other
witch groups that followed different beliefs on Dat and Mayor, which is kind of
cool. But this group, though, I thought it was fantastic. I
really really enjoyed the group. I thought it was really unique. And again,
they're they're tapping into this i'm assuming dark side force, even though I
don't know if they were necessarily using it for the for dark side reasons.
And I think that's one of the things that's interesting about witches. They can
tap into this dark side of the forest and this power, but they're not
consumed by it, right, they can just harness it. I had a
train of thought, what was my thoughts? Though? I know I'm losing
my trains of thoughts. So how are my trains of thoughts? Uh?
Crud? Oh my god. So we're talking about the twins, We're talking
about the dark side with the witches. Anything in the witch's culture you wanted
to point out about them. There's no children there. Ah, We're gonna
move on. I'll come back to you. Just come back to me.
I've lost it. So then we got introduced early on that the Jedi are
like skulking around, but they're not gonna get into that. And then yeah,
we see that there's May and all gone and forgetting the other one's name,
what's the oh shi I'm gonna get At one point even at this episode,
I was like, Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna remember it. So
we get to see that one May is like very in tune with the powers
varying tune and everything all gung ho to be this witch stuff, which is
like, I feel like it's not until first fifteen minutes of episodes they actually
say the word witch right, So at first it's like, what are they?
Is it just like a force users? Are they a type of Jedi?
Who knows? Do you got it? Taylor? I got it?
I got so Well we'll pick back up on the twinsling after, but Taylor
gets his thoughts. He's there. So the witches now them Obviously the Jedi
are aware of them, wear what they're doing, and they were kind of
forced out into the situation. Now, I think that the concept of how
uh the Jedi just appeared there and like, oh, the Jedi don't have
duck children. The Jedi don't take children or whatever, and the fact that
they're here and their main issue is that these force users are actually training children,
yes out and they're not Jedi. I was eating all that up,
like man, that is it's not showing. It shows maybe like ah,
what's the proper word, Like it shows like how the Jedi are not really
afraid, but they're they're fearful of what this outcome could be. I think
it shows that at the same time, they're aware that this could lead to
very dangerous things like Sith lords and other things. Yeah, they want to
control, like they want to control the narrative as far as when it comes
to the force, like they want to be the guiding light to anybody with
the Force, which is which I saw some pushback already, which I guess
I kind of get to where they are coming for these kids when they're older
and they go after like you know, like OSHA's going to be adopted after
lots of trauma stuff. But at the same time, I guess the reason
I'm okay with it is because this is so many hundreds of years late,
like earlier. I don't know what their method is now, Like when did
it start from being like oh, this is a certain age. Maybe again,
that's the thing. When you're playing in this timeline, maybe this point
eight was like acceptable or more acceptable, right, but now when you got
to the Anakin route, maybe it wasn't. And I don't know if someone
has the Jedi Handbook that says hey from the Old Republic, and maybe there
is. But that's a tough thing because a lot of that stuff is not
canon now, right, So like they can kind of make their own so
again, and I'm fine with because I think some people might look at this
and say, oh, paints the Jedi and the bad light. Well,
then you're just not watching the prequels correctly, because like that's all the Prequels
is painting the Jedi in a bad light, because like that's part of the
reason why they lead to their downfall. All the not too much of the
Regional trilogy, there's a little bit, but then in the New trilogy it
is all about the pass has to die. So it's like this isn't a
foreign concept of the Jedi got it wrong, and this idea of I think
there is some warrant to like I get there perspective their Jedi, they want
to control the Force, and also it is a law, but at the
same time, from the Witch's perspective, is kind of fucked up. These
people can just show up on your doorstep and you know, say, hey,
you should you got to give us these kids because they might have the
force, you know. Like that. That's why I like from both sides
seeing it. So I don't mind when Jedis are made to look to be
kind of dickish, because they multiple times are kind of very arrogant and just
self focused. Right, even if they're kind like Soul's self focused, he's
still all about like, yeah, and you'll be a Jedi and I'll train
you. It's not like it's not like he's like really emotional or taking account
that what these people might feel of taking the kids or the kids feeling that.
He's just all about, oh, you could be a Jedi, which
I love that moment where he did. They're they're arguing and he takes a
saber route and they all think it's gonna be a fight, and he gives
the child the Savor, which I think is a great like disarmored to show
like, hey, I'm not using this as a weapon. So Soul continues
to be a great character, but he still has those jediisms of he still
just wants to take these kids, right, and that's what the Jedis do.
So yeah, exactly. So yeah, we meet them and May she's
very, like I said in tune, wants to do this. Oh she
is very iffy about it. Doesn't know what she wants to be a witch,
doesn't really. I guess the other thing we see a couple of times
in this episode where May is doing great and Ochi's not, whether it's Ochi's
seeing it or other people like her, oh mother being like, you have
to do better, Ochi. Like, I think it's that she is so
tied to her sister that even if she is good at what she's doing,
because her sister's great, she's always in this huge shadow, you know,
like not never in the line like not saying she wants to be like Papa
and thing. I just mean like it definitely feels like she has like second
child syndrome, you know, where I don't want a Jeam Sissons episode.
I don't want to always be attached to you or with you, which is
not like when I last two weeks and there was nothing to give me that
I just thought that was the way it was going, I thought, okay,
they were the best of friends sisters, and then there was this thing
that happened and then May went missing. And that's why it kind of explains
to me last week when they saw each other, it wasn't this big embrace
or a big reunion like oh my god, and there's other stuff of the
episode we're gonna get to, but they weren't on like great terms near the
end. They weren't like lovey dovey. They weren't like, like, literally,
the plan is, hey, screw up this Jedi interview, and oh
a Bay does it, and then was oh, she does the exact opposite
and starts talking more about being a Jedi. So I was surprised, and
I liked that wrinkle. There's more wrinkles to get into about them, but
I liked that wrinkle of they weren't on the best terms. They weren't like
the best sisters ever. They were much different. So now that makes sense
of why as grown ups they're not just itching to get back into each other's
life, especially at least May right because she could have, but she drove
off last week. So yeah, well, I mean, how do you
like? I was not expecting that line too, and May storms into She's
accommodations like, you know, you can't leave. I'm not gonna let you.
Like, what are you gonna need to stop me? I'll kill you.
It's like, holy fuck, that's a red flag. And I thought
that was great. But I thought I thought it was great. And I
like the the illusions too of her, just like trying to force choke a
little butterfly button inside too. But I thought, Okay, there's something else
going on. That is something else afoot here, because you've Madison detected this.
When May retreats from the room and everything's burning, I know she's running
through the cabins and caind Of comes down below. You hear the explosions,
you hear like screams coming from up top, but you don't see it.
It's like, okay, what's going on up there? And then she continues
on, catches up with May again, and Soul is just already here.
And as you're running through afterwards, after May disappears and Soul has oh you
see the actress. I can't remb her name, but she's the head mother
of the clan and she's already laying on the ground dead and you see bodies
grouped together, all lying down. I'm thinking, Okay, this seems very
suspicious, and maybe I'm overreading it, and maybe Disney is just gonna leave
it as that and that they just did die in the explosion, or maybe
there is something going on here, because to me it feels like and I
doubt it. I doubt that the Jedi went in and actually did something,
although that would be very dark, but it was just soul, and maybe
Soul has a darker side to them that we're not familiar with. I don't
know. The alternative take on this is that we could see that there was
some conflict that was forming between our witches here and the dynamic of what to
do with the children, if we should like puish them or keep them,
and so maybe that had a fallout here and maybe just this fire kind of
instigated it. Maybe the fire was not May's idea. Maybe it was I
can't remember the mother's name that carried her with the Zabrack female that she was
very much resistant and opposing the Jedi, say let's kill these Jedilets and they're
not going to be missed, and so maybe she instigated something with May and
maybe after the fact, who knows, Maybe that Zabrek woman because I don't
remember seeing her body on the ground unless I have to revisit that scene again.
Maybe she helped connect May to this the Master, right, Like,
there's some interesting storylines here that are gonna unwind that I'm excited for. But
I don't feel like those witches all died from the fire up top. It
seemed like something was fishy, and I hope so, because for me,
the idea of this fire just killing everybody and taking them out is just that
is one of the most lazy pissport writing of all time. And because I
rewound because I'm watching and yeah, he steals the book. And so here's
the thing I will say. I did not like the May turn. I
thought this is where we needed the episode to be longer, because I get
that she's disappointed, but to jump from literally executing her sister. I needed
more backstory there, and that's somewhere I think that was poor writing. I
needed more time, more backstory, more reasoning of just she just wants to
be a Jedi, so she wants to die, like I, just like
she wants her sister to die for that, like I wish there was way
more throughout the years or months or just more than just a few couple of
days we saw where oh they're you know, kind of not getting along and
she wants to leave, so screw you, I'm gonna kill you, and
to like to burn like that's a huge like to me, that's something where
I feel that classic Disney Star Wars. I hope it's not that May is
gonna turn good at the end because to me, like that's like, think
about there, we're done with last Jedi a lot tonight. Right, everyone
has always a big problem with the Luke whatever thing with Kylo, Right,
my Luke wouldn't do that yet to doesn't matter. He Paul's lights there,
he's gonna do it, and he at least like thinks about it. You
know this, And granted she's a little kid, but this is her own
sister. She did like she didn't think about it, And then I would
have understood if she'd lock her in the room, was gonna burn her and
then thought against it. No if she if oh she didn't find a way
out, she was just ready to just burn her sister to Chris, So
to me, that was a way way too big a jump for me to
buy that I did not get there, and I hope now that may does
just stay evil because to me, that's such an evil hack that you can't
come back from that. So that scene happens, and then when everyone's dead,
I was so confused. I'm like, did I miss something? Did
I not understand because I heard the explosion. So I watched back and watched
the whole thing. And That's where I'm like, you where this has to
and as I sit out more, this has to be something more, especially
with we saw the meditating Jedi last week right where they talked about how he
felt so kind of scarred from that day, right and things that went down?
To me, what have the Jedi done that would make it seem like
you would be emostly traumatized as a as a Knight, Like, what what
happened from what our events we saw, Taylor? Is there anything? Because
I wouldn't think so. If you were on a planet and a fire start
and a bunch of people died, that's not on you, right, I
mean it was a Padawan at the time. It's very traumatizing. Well,
I guess hand for him to self exposed exile. Yeah, there is something
up all right, hope, because if it is just they died in the
fire and May accidentally killed them, that is something where to me that is
worse than any force babies, sexual orientation, whatever, like just like this
fire caught like a breaker and it blew and it killed all these witches.
Like what, I think that there is definitely the potential that, yeah,
the the Jedi responsible for something like that. And I think that this this
could really pay off in the fact that if you were to retrospectively after you
get to that end, let's say it's the penultimate episode, as you'd say,
and you get the the reveal that, oh my god, it was
these four Jedi that went through that temple because Soul was there mighty quick and
they just cut the witches down to try and get the kids out of there,
and they did it on their own record. Now, if you have
that unfold and then you can go back and watch the beginning first few episodes
and it fills in the gaps and you just it's it satisfies that rewatch,
right, and you can see how they're acting and how they're responding, like
Dara who's responding to May and that fight sequence it'll change that interaction now,
and I think that that there's a lot of potential here for this in retrospect.
So I do hope as much as I hate the idea of Jedi going
in there and killing and it would really be a twist on Jedi Master Soul's
character. Yeah, that to me, that's gonna really come down to execution,
because that to me is more if people are pushing back the whole Oh
the Jedi coming in and taking these kids away from a community, that I
can believe if these four just decide, hey, it's best for us to
slaughter all these witches, I'm gonna need to see more or if it is
just yeah, they decide to do that in these Jedi are they are bad?
They are and that's fine. Like you could argue that, oh,
shouldn't it be a Sith action, But I'm sure that Jedi have done many
questionable things thinking it was the right thing right, And who knows, maybe
they'll even do a thing where they show that the witches made the move first,
like there was a fight or a struggle and the Jedi's got the upper
hand. But I do think they got a kind of tightrope walk there because
I think that is odd for a bunch of Jedi to just go in there
and execute people unless you are condemning them, right, And I guess,
like you said, you could be, because then that makes when you're watching
the show over again, that makes me like the protagonists in a sense.
Right. But then it's strange because she's also a protagonist that tried to burn
her sister alive. So that's where it's like, it's I feel and I
am worried. I feel that there's a few things that could make the result
of this messy, and that's where I think. I feel like I want
to be something really well put together. But already with May trying to her
sister and then the Jedi also being like potential killers, I think there's lots
of room for error there where I think you go back and watch them things,
but I don't know. It's it's something, but I'm always, like
I said before, for me, I have to see the episode. I
can't fully judge out to see the season because we've thought it was before on
newscasts or anything. I've heard many things and go, oh, that's gonna
be great, and it sucked. And then I've seen many things where like
all that sounds awful and then it's great, right, So I'll wait to
see how it goes. It's all about the execution, but I do think
there's something there. It's just a question of the same way Luke felt all
like he felt regret for the thing that happened Mikayelo. At the end of
the day, he still decided he was not gonna kill Kylo Ren right he
pulled the lightsaber or ben Sol, but then he was gonna put it away.
But he still feels regret. So it's the same thing of like it
could be a Jedi thing that Hey, the Witches started this fight and they
did kill them all, and that's why they regret it right off, Like
we could have handled that better, We should have found a way. So
I think that would be the the route to go, because I think if
they just execute them that, like, don't you think that could potentially like
it's like you have these Jedi that have executed all these people then gone back
to just being Jedi. I think it's very tough like that that to me,
it feels like they're all a bunch of Anakin skywalkers. Then of him
going and killing all the sad people, which to me is more like justified,
like not that he should have done that, but it's more justified because
Anakin Skywalker is a very emotional person. These people destroyed his mother. He's
going to destroy them all, you know. And that's where it's like with
these them, the Jedi just killing them for power. I guess that could
be another wrinkle of them, how lost they were, But I do think
that crosses a few lines. So I'm kind of torn on it. Where
do you feel about if that is the route they go, that the Jedi
were the instigators and they just want to take out this kind of witch battalion.
I mean, they just send the Wookie in there and just like decimate
them all. Yeah, I think that it's for the Jedi to go in
there and just start massacring them. I don't necessarily see that. I see
it as that self defense. I do think the Jedi are much more responsible
than they're letting on as we've were discussed, and I do think that maybe
it is an act of self defense, but far that went too far.
I mean, and Dara was apprehensive because so pulled his lightsaber, but obviously
it was to show, Oh she just that there was an alternative path and
everything about that felt very Jedi like and peaceful. But I do think that
you could have had you could have had one of these, which is cast
out a speller do something to instigate the fight. Well we could get that
flashback though, right, Yeah, yeah, when we I'm sure that,
I'm sure we will. Yeah. I think that the Jedi you see now
are very different from the Jedi you see there. And Dara even feels very
different, even though we had her just briefly in that first episode and then
we were in this flashback, she feels different in between those two different scenarios.
Obviously, that Jedi pada Wan game doing like the brash Vour whatever that
was called, he's obviously very very different. Master Soul is exceptionally different.
And the Wookie, I mean, I can't say he's just living like a
hermit and he's a weird cliffhanger. Yeah, he's he's gotta cleaning. I
didn't do anything wrong, and even this episode, like he just sniffed out
the kids and was like, yeah, they're over there, so I'm interested.
But yeah, we got on the cliffhanger. I imagine next week we're
getting that thing where they go and shoot out, like they kill all the
Jedi, right, I'm guessing kill all the Jedi. Well, that scene
where we've seen the trailers where they they're in the field and the Sith is
there this potential city. I think that's next week. I feel like because
it's like it's wooded area, right, and then like they're going to the
Chewbacca and man like this. I always love people like this, Eddie.
Keep defending garbage and they'll keep making it. I think you have to go
back to multiple minutes where I have said that there was poor writing this episode,
tired question things. It's not a I don't need to defend them because
it's not my money. I just talk about like what I feel on here,
my personal feelings, Eddie. You know it's it's it's all good,
though it's this episode must have really hurt you for some reason. I don't
know when. The three reasons, and this is this is what I always
don't get. I'm guessing, Eddie. I'm guessing. I'm guessing Eddie that
you don't enjoy the show and what Disney's making. Why not you personally?
Okay, Okay, that's fine, You're Luckily, I guess this is the
goal. It's not just for Ddie. This was for anybody that's like trolls
and chats. I never understand if there's a show you're not watching, why
you're in a chat of it and wasting your free time, Like, don't
do that, you know. And that's the thing where I and who knows.
I can't say defending Gards because like, I don't think everybody that likes
the show to me is like blind to of course, there's people that overly
hate stuff, and there's people that overly love stuff. But I think there's
generally people out here like like, if you ask me right now, do
I like the show? I say yes? But is the greatest thing?
No? Is it like a showgun or Baby Reindier. No, Like it's
just like, okay, so far, it's a decent show right now and
we'll see. But Taylor, oh gosh, where we are we going right
now? We were talking about where we're going. We're talking about the Jedi,
We're talking about soul. Oh no, Chewba, it's not Chewbaca.
Whoever? This whatever thing is right, Yeah, let's here, Eddie asses,
at the end of the day, do you want Star Wars to go
in this direction, define this direction because like for me, yes, because
I want to explore more of the past. So to me, it doesn't
matter if you're the present, the past, the future. Bad writing can
be bad writing. So for me, I there's nothing in here that I
didn't see where like, oh, you can't explore that. That's not for
like, I don't like like there's nothing. It's all about the execution.
I think there could be better writing in the show. But I don't think
for me there's nothing where like what's the what's the direction? Is it like
having more gay couples? Sure that doesn't bother me? Is it more of
the playing with the force? They've done that before and sometimes it sucks,
But like that's like Midichlorins fucking suck. George Lucas crazed Star Wars and he
gave me that. But guess what, Like I have to deal with it.
Midichlorins are here to stay. George is a creator and now they're all
the fun. They're in fucking video games and colm books all the time.
So I just got to deal with it. Right As far as like the
Jedi being evil, that I have to see, right, because it's like,
I gotta see the execution because if it's like, yeah, these Jedi
kill bunch of people and nothing really happens, that is something, right,
girl, that's not great because I've you and I have doctors in wavelengths.
The fact that Ana can kill of those sand people Yoda knew and nothing ever
happened. What fucking idiots. So you know what, maybe I've answered the
question again the Jedi are just fucking idiots in this era because they can be
like, hey, so what happened on that planet? Oh? We just
fucking assassinate all those witches. They're like, yeah, bring it in,
man, like you got a new a friend. Like that's what I mean.
And maybe that's the case. It might not be something I enjoy,
But so for me, it's like, is there any red line for you?
The red line? I think I said last week of like if they
woke up and it was like in George's head, He's like, oh,
I had to me. It's just like it's tough because I have many red
lines, right, and I don't think there's one big red line. The
one big red line is Okay, here's the biggest red line. Jack Black
and Liz on that fucking Star Wars episode there's the biggest red line ever fucking
Manalor in season three. But no, for me, it's mini ones of
like I like Luke Skywalker being the only Jedi in the Dark Ages era,
and guess what, that's not the thing anymore. There's fucking eighteen million Jedis
bouncing around. But it's not enough for me to go, oh, I'm
done with Stars. I go, oh, that sucks, and I don't
enjoy that aspect of it. I think the red line is literally just that
I And that's fine if you do, but I have to dislike the writing,
the acting, the direction, and all the effects are looking bad,
like for me, like it has it has happened for stuff like I used
to be a huge wrestling fan, Like, oh no, let me take
that back, Tay, I'll go on a quick tangent here, I love
my whole life and then around. I can't remember it was. I think
it was twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen. It just got to the point where
everything was so bad. I did stop watching for about almost half a decade,
and now I'm back because I enjoy what they're doing with now and That's
why I always say to everybody, just take a break, just don't wash
this stuff, and then if something's good or here it's good, or up
your alley, then come back to it. So for me, I can't
say de Lizzo nearly broke me. That's ay was for Jack Black. So
for me, the red line is just everything overall bad because there's certain storyline
stuff that sucks a bunch already in Star Wars Midichlorians, the fucking sequel trilogy.
I still like it overall, but the last Jediris Skywalker, all those
changes, Holy fuck, the Knights of Ren. There's stuff in the original
trilogy that like, it's like, ah, like, why does like a
red line? Why Taylor, We've talked about this for years when Talbot still
we're eighteen years old. Why does Vader get to go to space heaven?
This man killed children? He gets to be a go that Luke Skywalker talks
to No And here's my last red line too, Fucking George Lucas and all
these stupid special editions, changing mcclun key, the stupid dancers in Java Hut.
They took out Yub Nub, they took out Yub Nub in the new
fucking version. I'm happy because I have a DVD. I have the last
DVD print of the original versions. But that's what I mean. These things
happen and I go, Okay, that's what's gonna happen here. So you
guys talk about why thirty minute episode? I think we've always had that complaint
about wouldn't it be great if it was longer? But at the same point,
and I'll let you answer that, Taylor. For me, it's like
when we just reviewed X Men and those were thirty minute episodes and great.
Now, I don't think it's down the runtime. I think it is down
to the pacing and the writer. So I think it would be better if
it was longer. At the same time, then they should adapt. How
are you feeling right now with the three thirty minute episodes and stuff? Uh,
yub nub, I hear you, Derek, Oh, it's this childhood
I get it. I hate then the song sucks now that's in the new
special editions. It sucks that's there, and they got stupid young Haynes Christiansen
there smiling. Luke doesn't know what this guy is. He's never seen him
in his life. So he also mentioned too, like it's no Showgun.
I totally agree Showgun is an whole tier of its own. It's no and
or even right, it's no, it's no and or absolutely not, And
I think that goes to show the writing. For me, this does feel
very prequelly, and it feels very prequel esque and in terms of its writing
and a dynamic. But sorry, So, how do I feel about the
thirty minute episodes? Yeah, I think that it's not ideal. I think
that this show should be It should be forty five at least every time,
with five at least without credits as well too, not none of this bullshit
of like the eight minute credits or anything. Some of my favorite shows again,
a Game of Thrones, Yellowstone, The Boys or Boys like these are
these are really well reviewed shows and they really dive into great narratives and dynamics
with our characters and relationships. And that's because they have the time to really
funnel into this funnel, channel into this information and portray these stories to us.
Where you have these quick, concise episodes, I feel like it definitely
withdraws a little bit from the story and it's a con for me. Depending
on the characters. Now we've had Mando season one. I think that worked.
It was it was a variety. Some were forty minutes somewhere down to
like twenty which though that really sucked, but it was back and forth,
and that was at the time when hey, each episode just feels like an
adventure and we're just going forward for that show that side quest. Absolutely,
but here we have here, it's not the case. I feel like,
here we have a pre planned arc where we're going to be focusing on this
character's journey and conflicting with a member of their past and the Jedi Order and
how that is all intermingled together. And I feel like, Okay, this
needs to have the time to really just kind of let it simmer a bit
and really kind of explore this narrative. And I feel like we're not necessarily
gonna get that. We're three episodes in and this is an eight episode season.
Is that correct? Or is it six episodes? It's oh, I
think it's a yeah, yeah, so it's eight episodes. And I feel
like, man, we have we're halfway fifty percent next week already, and
well, we're definitely getting through all the past stuff and and getting towards that
setup. I just I do feel like something is not necessarily there yet.
And even and Or was uh those were they felt like longer episodes, but
something still pretty short, right, But I don't know what I have to
look because it's been two years. I think they felt a bit longer,
but I also think like very long season, right. Yeah. I think
one we didn't also mention to me is something like obi Wan where we want
it to be longer, but at the same time, it's also just the
stuff in the episode. There's things that just didn't need to be in there,
and that's what it's like for the length that you need to use it
put the vital stuff. I'm not saying anything that in these three episodes haven't
happened that's vital. But again I've said before like character size everything, they
gotta be careful and what they do. I think this flashback episode is vital.
But we're gonna take an ad break because we're gonna answer this question that
Eddie pose of what if the current stuff has to fail for Stars to get
good again? So we'll be right back and we're back, so to recontextualize
that, what if the current stuff has to fail to make Star Wars good
again, that to me, it's too subjective. It's because for me,
let's say, most and Or episodes were now long, thank you Derek,
So there you go. And to me, that phil that makes sense because
not just quality, because again there's great quality stuff that is half an hour,
but I don't think star like and Or was just two years ago and
people hail that as some people put that as like the best Star Wars stuff
ever. So that's where it's tough for me to be like, hey,
if everything since like Rise of Skywalker fucking sucked, Like the same year we
got Rise of Skywalker, you got Mandalorian season one and then man Lurian season
two, which people loved even more, right, and same thing now.
So for me, I don't think it's like it's just more like, I
don't want to say it's a luck based thing. But there is a point
to it because two years ago we got and Or and that was great,
and I don't think anyone would have been like, oh man, do we
need and Or to fail so we can change it? Because what if that
was the case. And obviously they've already done season two, right, but
what if it was a case where you know, yeah, Acolyte sucked,
so we're gonna not do and or season two. Either we're gonna stop doing
everything and you go, oh, but I really love and Or. So
that's why I don't think it's like a it's a case by case basis and
not a whole thing, not one. I don't think it failing is gonna
make all the other projects good. You know, I get that sentiment of,
oh, if they're not supported, if they're reviewing poorly, it will
turned around. But at the same time, this is where I think people
that hurt the brand a lot, because even let's say let's say there was
you let's say it was seventy percent. Let's say it's all turned right,
and let's say there was thirty percent of Stars fans that are positive about Star
Wars overall, and then you have that seventy five percent or the seventy percent.
The problem is there's at least thirty five that percent that even if they
genuinely don't liked episodes, they talk about things being woke, they talk about
female led, they talk about their doing Red Eye thumbnails and stuff like that.
So right away that negative bass it just gets looked at as kind of
idiotic and they won't take it seriously. So it's like if it was a
bunch of well mannered people just tuning out and saying, I don't like this,
this isn't great Star Wars. But when everything is hyper bulk, when
everything this has destroyed Stars this is the worst thing on TV. Yea da
da da da, that's where they just drowned that out. And I don't
think they'll turn away. I think it all comes down to numbers. Then
if people are watching it, even if the people that hate the show watch
it, then they're happy to do it, you know. And that's where
I think with it not being and I think that's the thing with Marvel.
There is of course that crowd, they'll go woke, go broke it,
da da, But I don't think it's as big as Star Wars yet.
I think with Marvel there's just a genuine they can feel the fan base has
been let down by the products as of late, and we got to make
a change. And that's what Figgy's doing with Star Wars. It's so tough
to conflate the who's actually disappointed and who's just decided they're gonna be mad.
No matter what, because again, like we talk about it's an elephone room,
this fucking show had the audience score and run to mails like thirty percent
before it had even aired. Okay, I'm sure a couple of those sauce
screener at the theaters. I'm sure a couple of those are critics that got
a copy, but like thousands of reviews of just giving it a one out
of whatever before it's aired. That's where right away Lucasfilm will go look at
that and go like, oh, it's just a bunch of haters, like
people that are irrational, so we can't really judge it. Let's see who
watches it, you know. So that thing for me is like it there's
too much conflation there between people that genuinely are disappointed to people that are just
trying to get clicks or they're kind of basement dweller type of people that just
like, I don't know, go out and get some sun. But I'm
not sure to do you have anything? Do you think like Star Wars has
to fail for them to turn around, or do you think it's like me
where it's just kind of we're just in a case by case basis now where
like I don't know if you can go on a run where everything Star Wars
is gonna be great again, because like I don't know, like I don't
know if that ever happened. Even back in the eighties, Return of the
Jedi was hailed as like this, like, oh, that was the lesser
of the three, and hell, it's not a disappointment, but just like,
oh, it's clearly down there. So I don't think there's other lower
rings any franchise that had like a fucking perfect run, you know. Yeah,
No, you make a good point, And for the idea that this
needs to fail to just be successful again, I don't think we live in
an age for that anymore. I think the age that we live in is
shareholders and results and that sort of stuff. I think you're you're you're dealing
with a lot of fans, and a lot of fans are passionate, angry
so forth about these these ips. And you have to understand too, it's
not the fans that are necessarily calling the shots. And fans can have impact,
for sure, they can do a survey, they can submit their feedback
whatever. But I think you need to understand that unless you have someone who's
who is a fan and is really batting for the fans. In that high
ranking position at these companies, you're not gonna be necessarily getting the stuff that
you want, because you're gonna be getting a group of people in business suits
looking how to milk something, how to make money. They don't care.
They're not going home and binge watching all the Star Wars movies, all the
Jurassic Park movies. They don't care. They want someone to be hired write
them a story, and then they don't even want to read the script.
Probably And again I'm just I'm not saying no go back. I think most
of them don't even care to read the script. I think they want to
see just like bullet notoes, bullet points on a on a projector they want
to hear people's projections and see statistics and then see the statistics based on the
past and just say, okay, what are what are you guys guaranteeing here
for results and for income for earnings in this fourth quarter. And that's what
they're gonna be like, Okay, here's your check for five hundred thousand dollars.
There's there. You go make your project, and I want to get
guarantee my revenue but in return. And that's all we talked about too.
Whatever people want to say. If you look at the Star Wars movies and
why Cathy wasn't gone or anything like that, they made four of them and
three of them made over billion dollars. That's a pretty good track record,
whatever you feel those movies, and when like you're talking about it, when
you're just looking at statistics, why would you get rid of that person that
has helped produce three and that first movie made two billion dollars. So really
you could say, oh, Soul, I'm not making a billion. Force
Wakens like made up for it because it made two billions. So it's like
between four movies, you made four billion dollars. So that's where it's like,
That's what I always tell people. The only way you can change and
that's why even wrestling that happened another company start is you just don't got to
watch. You don't tweet about it, you don't talk about it. You
just it's no longer a thing anymore for you, because it doesn't matter if
you're hate watching your number, you go that statistic of well people are watching,
and Eddie, I get it when you say the woke thing is is
in case of more about them not hiring the best resrectors for some. But
you can search YouTube and see how many fucking things are just woke, and
it's Daisy Ridley on a male's body, or it's Kathleen Kennedy with the fucking
red eyes. So for every person that is trying to be like I just
want the best writers, that is true, and I agree with that,
but there is some person like, oh my god, they did this the
forces female Da da da. So that's where it's just like I can't get
on board because and those are the people that really are I to me,
I don't know, that's up to you. I think Sony Marvel is awful.
I've never not once logged onto Rawn Tomatoes before I saw the movie and
gave it a one out of ten. And that's where I believe the people
when it's like on Rawn to males, the audience score bringing it down to
like a rowden, those aren't the well we just want good writers. No,
like those people will just tune out and stop watching me, like,
man, this sucks and it's disappointing. Those people that are creating the narrative
are the more you know, go woke, get broke, crowd and when
something fails, oh, look we told you. But then when something does
really well, all they're quiet about that, right, So who knows?
I don't know. I So we cover the Jedi. Yeah, we cover
poor Osha. She had the Jedi handbook, look like that got burned and
stuff like that. Right, I'm trying to think there's anything else we didn't
cover as far as Jedi. Yeah, or sorry, all the witches are
dead. I really was that character's name? Yeah? So she was played
by Jodie Turner Smith, who I guess I've heard great things about, but
I haven't seen her in anything. She played mother and Nisa. I would
have liked the other mother to get a few more again about like screen time
and runtime, a few more moments, because it felt like she's like,
oh, I gave birth to them, but I didn't really feel like that.
It felt like she was the stepmother in this situation, like they were
so close with the other mother. So again, that's where I would have
loved more connection with that other mother even god what is uh? Oh?
She right? It felt like she did not care about that other mother at
all. It felt like they had zero connection. So that's something where I
go, Yeah, I could have used a bit more on that. The
Jedi presents were all good again, sold delivers. I think he's doing really
well. But yeah, anything else specifically that we haven't touched upon yet.
And then I have a theory I'm gonna hit you with. But well,
I like theories we haven't touched upon. What is this? What I gotta
go, Eddie, What does this mean? People you don't like to write
about some things? Yes, that is true, that's the most like,
that's true. But like the idea of when you're saying, oh, it's
that's not what I was going against. You said earlier that the woke thing
is in is in the case of the best writers, best rectors, I'm
saying that can be true. But the same wing as a reverse you is
a sense of that's not all of them, you know, and like,
yeah, there's tons of people I don't like that are gonna make points that
I agree with, you know, So that doesn't really make much sense.
That's just like a general like, oh, some movies are good, some
movies are bad, I would hope, so, yes, yes, Derek,
I used to comment here, I think one of the mothers is figure
in the show. I don't know if necessarily i'd say the master, but
I think you have a chance of seeing the woman that carried them and gave
birth to the to the twins again. I have to go back and visit
that scene when they were all dead on the ground. I don't remember seeing
her body there, but I do feel like we could see that actress that
Zabrac come back and maybe again, maybe she helped May and maybe she was
like May, I got I got a guy that I know, and he's
gonna take you away and he's gonna train you. Yeah, Darth Maul.
So yeah, that's that's what I feel. I think it's the main mother
I I really do, because Mama, I think she's alive. Well,
her name's mother Nissa. I'm not gonna call her mama, Mama they call
her on the show. I've never called my mom mama, but that's fine
if you do so for me. I'd have to look back. And maybe
that was a shot, but I swear in the trailer we saw that shot
of and I go, we saw a shot of somebody's eyes going black.
Now could have been this exact shot from that? What was that the one
of the trailers that they're showing. Yeah, okay, so I thought it
was somewhere else. I just thought that that could make sense. As far
as it has, I feel like it has to be one of them,
right the other thor I saw people thrown around last week that was the fucking
Bartender, and I was like, no fucking way, I can see there's
something where I would not want that because I like the Bartender. It's like
this kind of fun, shady, comedic guy. If he's some like Sith
in disguise, that's like like playing a character. I'm like, oh no,
I really don't want that. So I think that I think that it's
gonna be the main Yeah, it's gonna be Mama. And just because she's
a bigger actress than a lot of the other ones. On IMDb, she's
also listed for six episodes, so I think there's a thread right there.
And after this episode of her performance, I really enjoyed it, So I
would like to see more of that. So and especially because they did the
whole who Taylor did, they say that was an inspiration for the villain.
Oh wasn't it Darth Treya you were talking about and Kira. Right, and
when you meet Kira at first seems like a nice, lovely Jedi that's just
gonna help you out. Right. This mother, she is like, she
is not as strong as the witches, I mean as far as strong will
that the kids have to do this. She literally goes to the girl saying,
oh, or that you know, Osha, do you want to be
a Jedi? Whatever your life, you know that thread you have to pull,
you have to do it. She's almost overly understanding that. I think
in the moment she genuinely felt that way. But imagine if Taylor, you
were like your kid for some reasons, like Matilda, they want to go
off and you're like, okay, kid, you go. You go with
these people, go live your dream. And they get a little Seteam in
the car, they pack her away and they drive away, and then those
people decide to kill you. I was completely wrong about my feelings on letting
these people watch my daughter. That's why I could feel how she feels is
I was so fine with or I was accepted. My daughter wants to do
just wants to be a Jedi. I'm not gonna push her to go my
way. Go live your life, even there's a great scene where she says,
I'm never gonna see you again, and they hug and she kiss her
and she's got and she's crying, not like a super sad but just like
a tears falling Jody Turner Smith like I said, I'm gonna go watch more
stuff because I thought she was great. But I think there's a great story
thereof she's willing to let the Jedi teach her daughter and if they for some
reason turn on her or people, man, you would definitely feel like you
misread that situation. So I'm saying it's gonna be her and I'm actually kind
of hoping it's gonna be HER's. That's my pick right now. That's my
prediction. That would be pretty I mean, the motivations are definitely clear,
so I think you guys got some justification there. There's a few other more
things in the trailer. I feel like these three episodes have really taken off
most of the scenes that we've seen in these good so far, which is
very That's why I think next week we're getting the whole those Jedi getting force
pushed and killed because I get it, you know. I mean, there's
there's a scene too. On that planet where the Master pops up and force
pushes all the Jedi, May is pulling out her throwing knife and is like
about to kill that young I think Daphney Keane's character that's like a knife.
Okay, that's the exact same backdrop and settings when the Master attacks all of
them. So yeah, and again I'm thinking that's the Wookies home because Wooded
it's shadowed, so it's gonna be They're gonna get the Wookies home in the
morning and then night time is gonna go down and then even though it's a
lot of Jedi there, So that's my only thing of why are all these
Jedi at that Wookies planet? But I don't know. I mean here,
I'm gonna I'm gonna sure screen here because now I'm kind of curious. So
I mean, look, I mean, look at how the a Jedi we
got here? Is this a flashback? Is that supposed to be young Ohshi
there? Here? I mean it's definitely that mother. I think that's Salt
Front. But man, that motherfucker looks like kai on Gin up there,
like because he always have his like Kate like that. Yeah, like it
could be I guess Young Oshi up there, so there could be. So
do you think next week, because this episode ended with us on Young May
looking in at the tree, do you think next week is another flashback episode
at all? Or do you think it's gonna be fully back to present day?
I think we'll get another flashback, And I said that again, we
got some we got a ship full episode mix or just I think it'll I
think it'll be a mix. I think it'll be a mix. We got
a ship chase sequence here too that we gotta deal with. But then also
there was a scene here that I don't remember seeing in this episode. Just
also, I do like last week we were talking about why uh May didn't
have a lightsaber or anything like that, which is great because she wasn't trained
to be like a Jedi or sith As right now, she was just somebody
that had the force, right So I like that's a good explanation right now.
And again we still know why she's like reaching for the lightsaber, but
I am ready to see that Ocha May the oh she May fight pop off.
So was this scene here in the in the episode? I can't remember
where she's thinking through the fire because this is different right, I can't remember
her running through the fire because all we saw was Young May popping up at
the tree, and I'm thinking, maybe this is this is another flashback showing
May on her escape. Right, you do have to remember the last week.
Remember we got to see Young May in uh oh she's mind, So
there could be some chream sequence going on here, right, Yeah, yeah,
which the same way Derek brought up, which I've seen some people throw
out that put out that theory before of like the uh the Tyler Durdon like
is May or the things in her mind? Like are they one? I
don't know. I I wouldn't say no, because they did say like,
hey, n it's an old republic, like there are like some inspirations were
there, And that to me would be a very kind of Darth revn thing
to do. Right of you think your sister's alive or something like that,
but it's you forced rejecting it to I don't think they'll go that route,
but I'm not completely writing off that she's had some sort of split personality or
something like that. So yeah, that's possible. John Blanchard says or Blanchard
Story says, could Darth character be using the twins to get a Jedi.
I don't know if they need to use them because right now they've already popped
two jets. Yeah, getting the Jedi right, and she's about to get
that. That Wookie's going down. I'm telling you the Wookie's done yet.
Yeah, Soul, he might last to the season, but maybe he won't.
Who knows, because he probably he had to go to Squid Game season
two. So I so like, I think it is just like, I
don't think they're using the but I guess because how I guess maybe you could
just be using oh she to like get them in a certain position. So
maybe. But again, I think it's just if it's a dark character,
it is that one we've met, right, I don't think there's like another
character on top of that. I think it is it's whatever they're gonna name
that. So let's see here anything else, And same thing with chat anybody.
We're round down, So if there's any question, theories, anything,
throw them out now before we come down to the end here. But I'm
trying to think, Yeah, we ended on May. She was looking mad.
She survived that big fall, which I was kind of surprised. Soulden
trying to just use his force to catch them. He decided to go the
route of using his hands, which I feel like is a Jedi. Well.
I I was telling Madison, like the way he was hold on to
Oshi, you'd think he was holding on to like two full grown men.
Also, he was like, I can't pull you up there, too heavy.
Soul's going to spend a bit more time in the training facilities. Imagine
even just dropped her and that would be it. But yeah, so we'll
have to see what happens there, and again we'll have to see if Soul
if there's something suspicious with him that I guess. That's why I'm still enjoying
the show because as of right now, I got a lot of questions and
I'm excited to have them answered. Now. That's what it comes down to,
is how do they answer them and how they do them right? Because
for me, that can and stuff everything we talked about, like why some
people might not like it, that stuff has not affected me the same way.
And if it is for us or anything like, or it's for you
or anybody, you know, different strokes for different folks, right, that's
everybody. But for me, I'm still intrigued by the mystery, and I
like that we have multiple mysteries. What did happen all these witches? Who
is the dark character? How are these twins going to come together? What
is some of the fault that happened with? Oh? She is training?
So there's like three to four things already where it's like okay, where you
know, where are we going? And I'm excited to see what happened?
So Derek says, why does this show look weird? Looks like the budgets
of the House Dragon, but it feels like the show that would fall Arrow
on CW. I've seen the CW comparisons. I don't think it's as bad
as that is something that watched Arrow and the Flash. I think there are
times I definitely granted, yeah, I could see it, but I think
overall it still looks like a higher production budget than what the CW does.
So and with the budget, I really don't know how those budgets works,
because we've talked aboutly before, like sending Secret Invasion was like one sixteen,
We're like, where does that money go? At least with that, we're
like, well, Sam Jackson's in the show, so maybe he got like
one fifty. But like with these there's not any huge actors actresses in here.
But I'm not sure if it's overspending on shooting. I'm not sure if
it's rewrite. So I will say that there's some I think even last week
we had some shots that were cool. But I do think overall it's not
like a it's not like and or it's not like a beautiful looking show,
right, And I think, yeah, both Mando and Obi Wan have the
same thing where they have moments that look great, but then overall the show
can look cheap. So I think that's just a tough thing with the with
the Star Wars show of just like the rate that they're I don't know,
because this one took a while. I really don't know, And maybe it
could just be that. And I'm not trying to like because I don't want
to go after the kid actors. I don't want to have to go to
the crew. But it could just be that, Hey, the team or
person they have behind the sticks, it is just like it's just not the
greatest or they don't got the greatest vision for what they wanted to look like.
Right, So yeah, I don't know. How do you feel with
the look of the show right now. I mean, I can definitely see
that there's something questionable going on it when you look at those other shows like,
yeah, How's a Dragon and Showgun and why not, Like there's the
difference is i'd say night and Day. So yeah, I also House a
Dragon, though again those are lots of like physical sets, and even then
I'm rewatching House the Dragon. There's time that Dragon looks fucking fake as shit,
like there's times with a Dragon. But I think that you're also dealing
with an aesthetic that they're trying to match. And while the prequels were heavily
cgi, they were very bright and vibrant, and this feels like it's bright
and vibrant, but it's been simmered down a little bit with this dark Uh.
I don't want to say a filter, but they're darkening it. They've
taken that bright, vibrant sea that is the Prequels and they're they're like desaturating
it and trying to make it a little bit more darker. So I think
that maybe they're just trying to capitalize and emphasize on something that maybe that we're
familiar with. But it does that that vibrancy that that CGI ask it does
feel very c W and I it's just one of those things that blows my
mind where you look at CGI from what like ten fifteen years ago, no,
not even like early two thousands with piots of the Caribbean, it's like,
what the fuck, Like now that's what happened. It's it's these people
are like put under because many FX people talk about they're just put under scrutiny
of getting lack of time. And also this is a big thing of the
Marvel stuff is like and I'm sure with the Star Wars and hopefully that time
with DC is like the changing of stuff too, right, you got a
small amount of time. It's like, oh, well, actually want to
look like this or do this. And see that's the guys in suits that
these board meetings that are calling the shots right, and it's just because they
just need to hit a quota. They just need some big show for the
summer. They need some big movie like look way like again, there's multiple
issues, but remember Justice League and Superman and Henry Cavill's mustache like the original
one and lots of issues with that movie. But then one of the things
that came up was, Well, the reason they wanted to for sure to
be on November is because certain execs would get certain bonuses. Right, I'm
not saying that happens with everything, but there I think this is different,
different time crunches. Unfortunately, now he's then a lot more pressure on these
studios, so hopefully it can look better. But let me let me ask
you this, and I feel like I feel like there are individuals and maybe
this is a very bold question. What's the wrong? Oh? Just did
you? I thought you might have heard the loud motorcycle Usually sometimes you hear
here. Do you think that the urgency of putting this show out now and
timing it with this month is because they want to capitalize on I guess just
people that can Yeah, what do they want to capitalize on? Well,
it's Pride Month. I feel like this show if you look at a lot
of the marketing and a lot of the actors and the people that I'm involved
with the show, and how they've been just like handling the interviews and what
they've been saying, and now obviously they've they've showcased it in this episode.
Now to the relationship between two female characters, do you. I feel like
it's probably not a coincidence that they're timing it. I mean, Disney,
and I feel like Star Wars is probably I mean, it's guys in suits.
They're looking like, hey, how can we like maximize our profits?
And I hate to say that you're looking at something that is like that is
culturally impacting and growing and expanding, but it is also looked at from a
financial standpoint. Everything is in Hollywood and whatnot, there is some always some
inkling of financial benefit that people are looking for. Me even Marvel does that,
Like when they put Black Panther in February for like the Black History Month.
At the same time, there's like a celebration aspect. I think there's
maybe a little bit to that. The only reason I push back is just
that none of it's in the marketing, you know. It's like, yeah,
like they're not Like it'd be different if the whole show was like,
this is Star Wars for gay people, and like they're not doing that.
Like I would love to see that because I would love just to see just
the Internet a lot of people be mad. I would just love to see
that, just see people get mad for no reason whatsoever. But there's a
little bit that. I think it's also just that it's just churn and because
what do we have other than animation. We don't have a Marble show until
Agatha, Right, that's the fall, right and that, Yeah that's ship
that's like September row, you know, but yeah, that's like September October
because DAREDEVI will happen and remember that, I all go pushback. So I
think that's just it. Skeleton Crew is like, who knows what the fuck's
going on with that? You know, Like that's like a show that's been
so I think, sure, there's a little bit of that, but I
think it's just they don't have a big show right now Agatha, and I
don't think Agatha is gonna be a big show for them, So they got
that in September. I don't even know Skelton Crew will be that, Mando's
becoming a movie a Soca season two is in development. That's like, what's
what's the next even Star Wars show other than Asca season two and Skeleton Crew,
which now its years ago. We have nothing on the docket right now
for shows. Yeah, nothing that I can think of. I guess my
follow up to that is then if they were, because this goes hand and
hand with them. Okay, Like we have these we have this kind of
like relationship between these female characters, and we want to time that with Pride
months. Now, We're gonna put pressure on our effects team and our and
our whole crew working on this project because we want to We want to time
it so we can drop boom two episodes and then another episode, like we
want to just pump it out, so it's all throughout the month of June.
And I feel like, okay, well, then that's these investors and
these suits trying to maximize their profits probably here and try to time it with
landing in Pride month and putting pressure on this development team when really, you
said it here, what do we have nothing really until the fall? Well,
there's nothing wrong with putting out and creating that more awareness and pride.
I think that's great, sure, but I also think that too, you're
straining this effects team again by forcing them to meet these deadlines unless it was
already finished and this is the final result. Sure would literally just be that
hey, this crew like they weren't up to stuff, Like it wasn't a
good totally totally and I guess what I'm trying to get is here that you
shouldn't. These suits will make the calls for whatever financially benefits them. But
the fact that there's nothing coming out till the fall, it sucks that.
Hey, maybe one more month would have done a miracle job for this this
show and refined it looking like CW quality. Maybe it would have made it
feel a little bit more fine toune and it just kind of like tweaks certain
things. I don't know. We had this show announced years ago, and
it's just it it is kind of flabbergasting twenty twenty, yeah, four years
ago, and the fact that some things aren't necessarily super refined. Yeah,
Obi says, two twins separated and finally and I'd only kill her father sound
familiar. I'm not sure? Is it something else or am I missing it?
Like I guess you could say Star Wars, but like, I don't
think they're gonna get together to kill their father in this show, Like I
don't I believe them when they say there's no father here, you know,
which to me I felt was like the Master is he's the father? Yeah,
which I kind of thought was a tribute to Phantom men as her.
I know some peoplemight go, oh, it's not special about her, literally
saying there was no father you know, So yeah, well that's it,
I think, right, dare you got anything else? The score was great.
I love the music in this. Yeah, I like. I wish
they hit a bit more on Star Wars themes. I like it so far.
I'm not I don't like hate or anything, but I wish sometimes like
like you can use the Force team for not just the main Skywalkers, you
know, you could throw it in there, especially when she was like feeling
the lightsaber. I feel like they had like a few hints to it,
but nothing there. But the Force is the father. Oh, I can't
see, so you're doing the whole the there there's a fucking red line.
I don't think it's in the cha anymore. Those fucking the father, the
daughter and like that whole shit about the three of them and then the control
creation. Oh, I know, and I that's stupid. That's I will
take medical orients all day over the fucking the brother, the father and the
sister. Like that's dumb stuff. And I do not like I know people
always say like, oh, it's Clone Wars, like classic stuff but hey,
and that's not for me, that's the red line. But again,
you know what I do. I've watched it once. I'm just never gonna
go back and watch those episodes because I don't enjoy them and I don't like
anytime it's hinted that I don't know, I don't know, and yeah,
well and then you know it's coming some failing grades for me. But again
it's like an destroy Star Wars will going next and hopefully get that Kotar show
and not Boba fet season two. You know, so well, we've done
it. We will be back next week usually around a similar time to break
down episode four. We'll talk about that. If Kirkland is on, we'll
get his thoughts and yeah, we'll see what's happening. Thank you to everyone
in the chat. Lots of lively discussion debate. For the most part,
everybody you know behaving and that's where like we always are welcoming different opinions just
as long as no one's being a straight up asshole or ignorant of other people.
If you're being assholes to other people, I don't really want you.
Whether it's here in the discord, we want to just like at the end
of the day, we're talking about a show with like fake space with space.
Yeah, yeah, like I don't want to. That's why we don't
like Dix in the community, because like you shouldn't get this serious, you
know, And that's where it's been a fun time. So I don't think
Taylor, I can finally ask you, was Star Wars destroyed tonight for you?
No? Star Wars has not destroyed for me yet either, so it's
not crossing that big red line. But yeah, ladies and gentlemen, we'll
be back next week and I promise you it will not be boring. May
the Force be with you always.