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Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome
back to the act Lite Star Wars The

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Acolyte Review, Episode three. I
am I forgot to do this last week.

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I usually this is all Star Wars, so I got to bring it

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back. It's been a hot minute. But I am the number one kyl

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of Ren fanboy, trust Snell,
and I'm joined by the controversial Taylor Field.

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Controversial Taylor Field. Oh my goodness, maybe you have some hot takes

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in here. Maybe he thinks Star
Wars was destroyed. I don't know,

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but yes, no Kirkland, because
he is I think he might be on

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news, but it's a combo of
he has supposedly Shay's birthday and then also

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he's packing for a trip because he's
gonna be gone for a little bit.

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So we're gonna hold down the fort
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about Accolade until maybe next week,
if not two weeks from now. But

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the Cantina Boys are here to give
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you want to know our thoughts,
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For the first two episodes, we're
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to talk about the accolades. So, mister Field obviously been a lot of

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buzz in our Discord, been a
lot of buzz in general, because I

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just Discord, there's all these people
saying, oh, episode three, there's

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some there's some stuff in there,
and it is a different type of episode

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for multitude or reason. So one, did you like it? And then

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two, what are your nonspore thoughts? Oh? Okay, so this episode.

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I loved it. I thought it
was great. I thought it was

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it was really really awesome. I
have like non spoilers. I mean,

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it was just it was exciting.
I felt like I was getting Phantom Menace

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vibes in here, and in like
a distorted dystopian kind of way, but

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it was just kind of hitting these
keynotes that I really really enjoyed. And

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uh, I'm watching through the episode
and with Madison of course, and I

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told her about the whole dilemma going
on, and people kind of saying whatever

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about this episode and we're trying to
pick apart. Okay, is this the

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moment where this is where people are
kind of feeling a little iffy on and

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then another thing happens like, oh
no, that's got to be the moment.

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Nothing happens. Oh no, that's
got to be the moment. And

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really there wasn't really anything super super
bad. Well, I definitely can identify

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what I'm assuming is the thing that
people are very much. I'm excited for

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you to tell me what it is. You don't know what it is.

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I think I think I know what
it is. And if it is what

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I think it is, then it's
like the most lowest year. But it's

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been done before. We've seen it
before in Star Wars too. Again,

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that doesn't mean it's good, but
it's something that is familiar and it just

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kind of goes to show that in
Star Wars. Really, if I say

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that that's a spoiler, there there
are things you can do in Star Wars

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that people might not really like.
It's very much out there from what the

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original trilogy is, obviously, but
there are things that they've adapted over time.

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You've seen in the Clone Wars even
where they've done certain things where it

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just kind of it. It makes
sense like you can you can tap into

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this certain kind of narrative with a
certain type of character, and you can

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pull off a certain type of storyline
and trying to be as vague as possible,

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A certain this, a certain that. Yeah, so I don't I

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don't feel like everyone is everyone is
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I don't feel like it's necessarily warranting
all this overreaction in this craziness. I

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mean, I feel like a damn. I got a great Star Wars episode.

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I got some juicy stuff in here, and I had a good time

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with it. Yeah. So for
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things. All that stuff like that
about the destroying Star Wars or this or

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Jump, I don't think there's anything. I think there's two things. That's

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one like a political one where I'm
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another one when we're going to spoil
someone about maybe how people feel the Force

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is being used. But for me, I it's tough because I I guess

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I'll to spoilers, but it doesn't
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about the Force that I don't like. I think the I like the structure

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of this episode. I wanted a
similar type of episode. It's not exactly

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what I pitched, but it's like
the idea of, oh, it'd be

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cool if they do this, because
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Disney Plus and Story's episodes don't do
the kount of pocket episodes where it's like,

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let's take a break. I remember
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of people hated it with the guy
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Katie Bryan was in there. Remember
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the empire. So I like that, but and I feel like lots of

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people, maybe in the mainstream,
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a great character or great story in
a pocket episode, it's worth it.

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And that's all says. They did
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a great use of it, usage
of it. I liked a lot of

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the lower stuff with the group we
met, I really liked. I gotta

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find out the actress's name who played
a mother. I'll just say because I

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know I think she had like a
hit HBO show, and I know she's

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been in other things, but I
don't think I've seen her in anything,

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and man, she was damn good. Like now I'm gonna go look into

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these things she's done because she was
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So that was good. I think
I had much like Episode one, in

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episode two, I had issues with
the ending of the episode, more so

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with this. This is one where
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because I don't know if I don't
like the ending because it's poor writing,

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or if there's kind of a mistrecked
or something going on. I still have

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a few things that I think are
some poor writing where I go, this

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doesn't make sense, or we needed
more time to stew on this, or

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we need more examples. I think
sometimes there was maybe a there's one particular

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large leap that I just couldn't buy
into. But I also really liked it.

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It took me on a journey I
was not expecting, and from the

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first two episodes when we thought,
you know, the story of what the

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Twins would be, I think this
puts it in a very much different light,

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and I really like that. So
overall positive, The ending is like

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a wade and see. Even though
I do have some gripes of I didn't

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like that to enjoy that, But
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where i'd rank it among the other
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same. If there's certain things,
like there has to be an explanation for

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the thing I have a problem with
at the end, and hopefully it is

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a fulfilling one, because if not, then this would easily be just like

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if I have what I have now
would easily be the last episode and the

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one I enjoyed the least. But
I really liked a lot of the things

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that happen here, So overall,
I'm still enjoying about the same. But

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I'm very curious to see the follow
up on I don't even know what will

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happen next week, but within these
next few episodes. Again, I still

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wish the run time was better.
But at the same time, there's many

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great shows that are like, look
at X Men, right, that's a

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half hour and a half an hour
we didn't have. We never watched those

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episodes being like, oh the run
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I sometimes maybe I gotta stop blaming
that because it is we talk about

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on the discord. It's like,
so's just like what can you do with

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the time? Right? So,
yeah, is there anything else nonspoys you

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want to get to? I got
nothing. That fucking beeping Taylor's back.

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I don't know what it is.
The fucking people that don't know on other

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cats you can't hear it, luckily, just annoys me. So I'm not

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sure if it's like all these usbes
put together? What do I have my

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rights here? I don't have another
I don't even have another stupid mac air

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books. You know, all these
used bs dowshes down to two. That's

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so annoying, but you know,
I will power through, but it's gonna

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just drive me out the fucking wall. Hopefully you don't hear every ten seconds

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great spoiler's review. We're gonna get
into it right after this. Okay,

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and we are back. So yeah, let's start with what do you think

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is like the is? I guess
we want to Is it really just that

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because there's like a gay couple in
Star Wars and it's gonna be okay,

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you have you have two females,
a female that carry the twins, another

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female that god are pregnant. Yes, that's that's that's one hundred percent.

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I'm calling now what people are pissed
off about. What's the issue? Are

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people pissed off? Because, I
mean, they didn't cover it in Phantom

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Menace, but technically, if you
read comics, you know Palpatine was doing

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it. So I mean the Force. Are you pissed off that Force users

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and this isn't exclusively a syth lord
like a male thing only that they can

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do. I mean, if you're
powerful in the Force, which these are

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witches, so of course they're gonna
be doing some fucked up shit. I

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think it's totally justified and fair that
they created something like this. They were

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cast out, and people need to
calm the fuck down. This is where

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it felt like a Clone Wars episode
mixed in with the Phantom Menace, and

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I was eating all this up.
I thought it was great. Sorry,

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go ahead, No, no,
no, I like I guess that's why

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for me, I just didn't have
a problem with it, because it's just

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like you said, it's stuff we've
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I think, like there's enough illusions
in the one, there's enough illusions in

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the prequel trilogy that Palpatine created Anakin
just out of thin air. And I'm

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saying that lightly, but because they
used the Force right, and then I

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just feel like even I was there
like a maybe, I guess it's not

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I thought there was stuff in one
of the original scripts that Lowe that,

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but to me, it's just either
Way Anakin. It was just created out

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of nothing, and I'm it's I'm
fine with these kids being created and nothing.

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They're witches and it's just stuff we've
seen before so that I don't really

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have an issue with. But let's
see, here we go. Hopefully this

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is all right. Comment Derek Lewis, is am I pissed off? Question

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mark? I mean no, but
this will split the fandom. You're going

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to lose the Normies, and the
Normies you lose the franchise. But like

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what, Like I guess my issue
is what is what is the key issue?

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Like what is the issue that's going
to split the franch Like I don't

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believe that. I really don't because
I think it's the die hard people,

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but the mainstream people, I don't
think they're gonna be like, oh my

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god, these two created a Force
baby. They're not even gonna remember that

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Palpatine did. They're just gonna be
like, oh, that's something that happened

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in Star Wars. Like, I
don't think this is a key make or

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break. I think the key maker
break is if the show overall is well

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written in people like the characters.
Of course you can take some big leaps.

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But I think this is just purely
on the minds of Star Wars fans

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and junkies being like I hate this, Like I don't think so, you

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know, I don't see any thing
the orgy ritual thing I I I don't

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know, like, I don't think
it's a I guess I get what you're

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insinuating as far as it being the
group and everything, but I don't think

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it's like if it was an actual
orgy, this is the allegory for an

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orgy. Right If we opened up
this show and it just started with like

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thirty women purely nude getting it on, I wouldn't have a problem with that.

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But I could see someone being like, hey, this is primarily a

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family friendly franchise. There's you know, like I never think Stars has to

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get to that territory of dark or
adulthood. So that's where I would go,

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Oh, it was actual orgy,
sure, but to me, like

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the Dapha mere kids, like the
Dafmere witches have done the same thing in

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Star Wars, Like, how did
they I don't know what the differences of

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an orgy is of them chanting to
them bringing back Darth Maul's brother, you

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know, if them all standing together
their powers are, Like, didn't they

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do that? Was Darth Maul's mother
or just Darth Malvajo press they brought him

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back? Right? Yeah, no, well they brought back mall right.

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They give him his legs and all
that kind of show. Yeah, So

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to me, I don't think there's
any difference of this is just okay,

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there's twelve people doing it opposed to
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and they're connected by green stuff and
they're chanting and chanting and the thing

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comes live. Like I don't think
it was I think the same way like

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these daf or these witches were almost
an allegory for being a sexual orientation or

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being you know, not just like
a white straight male or anything. But

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I don't think they're sovert where I
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issue with themselves because Star Wars has
always been political, so I don't think

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it's anything to to really crow about
in my opinion, so what but what

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is the what are the parameters of
normis just the GA So we're going out.

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Yeah, I don't think like I
don't. Yeah, I the guy

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you'd have to if Derek would say
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I don't think. I don't think
Ahsoka there was anything in Ahsoka same thing.

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I was like, oh, we
love like this show. What they

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gave out the stats. Ahsoka did
fourteen million and five days and this did

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eleven. It is lower, but
at the same time, no characters,

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no big stars, no air or
anything like that. So I think it's

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pretty good. The whole thing will
be, though, is if we get

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to meet Ahsoka two, and if
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with Manda where Mandal War and three
started really low and it did start to

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climb. But yeah, I just
don't think that. It's like it's stuff

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that's happened in Star Wars, it's
happened in Clone Wars. So to me,

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it's just and you can say if
you don't like that, that's fine,

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that's that's okay. But I don't
the argument of oh man, this

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is something crazy and new, it's
gonna ruin Stars. I really don't think

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so. I think it's stuff we've
seen before. So that's been It has

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been stuff we've seen before. It's
been very much, i'd say represented in

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many Star Wars games, especially the
new like Jedi Survivor Fallen Order, right

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that you really get to the Mercus
there. Of course, that's post Lucas

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Sarah, that's post Lucas Arts.
But even then there's the other games like

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Star Wars Forces of Corruption, Empire
War. You got data Marian magic going

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on, and there, you got
a whole bunch of things that have just

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been at play. And I feel
like it's not anything new, of course,

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and yet and that's what I was
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see you know, good to see
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specifically, this is not an attack. I want you to say, like,

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I can see why it would divide
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I'm not gonna say it wrong because
Derek said why I thought it would vide

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for me? I don't think so, Like I don't think anything I've seen

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here the gay stuff, No,
I don't think that like, Okay,

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yes it would divide, but I
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Okay, characters a okay, cool
baby is created. Cool. I

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guess there's an orgy. Cool,
there's allegories for racism and sexism and sexual

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orientation. Cool. That's like all
these things have been done. So that's

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why I just don't know where if
it would divide the phantom. I just

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want to know, like, who's
the fanom it's dividing? Is it already

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the people that are making the woke
Red Eye thumbnails because they're already divided.

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I'm saying, like it it's odd
because I feel like it would be division

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of like me and Taylor who have
very different views and Star Wars, but

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if we came here in Beaufort,
this is you know, he's one way

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and I'm the other. I don't
think so I don't think it would divide

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any people that it haven't, you
know. So that's my thing. So

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yeah, RJ put that in the
chat. Why do you think? Because

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I want to know because I like
if people, and I also don't think

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it destroys Star Wars. Nothing destroys
Star Wars. The thing that destroys Star

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Wars is bad content. Now,
if you want to argue for bad writing

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and bad this and that, then
sure, I'm open all day with that

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because I think Star Wars has had
those issues. I think with Mandalorian and

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Boafette, I think just like the
Marvel stuff, where with the kind of

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fatigue, I think it's just like
a lot of bad projects that have happened.

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So, okay, RJ came back
says, I think it's mostly the

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stuff regarding the twins being created by
the Force. Child born in the Force

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is meant to be something made Anakin
special and unique. Now that you remove

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that, okay, so from that
perspective of Anakin's not special anymore, so

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I can't say people could be wrong. So that's one thing where I could

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say, Okay, I can see
a little bit that doesn't affect me because

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I just feel like it's something that
could happen. And I don't know if

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it's special because there's argument of if
he's the chosen one, right, that's

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still debate all the time of if
it's Luke and that, and I don't

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think there is a chosen one because
the evil keeps on going. So to

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me, I guess it's not as
big of a thing where it is an

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issue, but I can see why
people might have an issue with that because

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I am someone that I think with
I love Luke Skywalker, fair Jedi,

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and I feel like having Ah Soca
Ezra all these Jedis around the same time

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as New Hope, I think that
does lessen Luke Skywalker. So for me,

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I don't think it does as far
as I don't think it makes anything

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less special. But if someone were
to feel that way, I understand,

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I understand. But at the same
time, like I said, it is

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in the canon of people doing these
things, right, I'd have to look

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at the whole chosen one kind of
prophecy and like it doesn't list that it's

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it's a person born from non childbirth
or is it a bunch of other things?

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and Taylor read they list things,

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but I don't think they've ever given
out the prophecy. So if there's not

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a line of prophecy saying this is
the only person that will be born like

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not unnaturally, then you can kind
of do I think whatever. So that's

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not one that would bug me.
But and I don't think again, like

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I don't think the people that love
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it's not this isn't like a George
move, you know. So, I

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mean, let's see here. The
Prophecy was one of hundreds of obscure legends

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maintained by the Jedi Order, though
its origins remain unknown. It was thought

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to have been created by the earliest
Jedi philosophers after the creation of the Lactic

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Republic, but before the Jedi assumed
an active role in it. Now,

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I think, so, what does
that pertain? None of the birth stuff

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pertains to Anakin, right specifically,
that's something that happens. But you could

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say that multiple people doing things in
the series are oh well, they're special

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because of X, Y and C. So I guess that that's something you

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hold to your heart then sure.
But I just feel like there's multiple examples

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of a character doing something and then
other people doing it. Whether you like

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that or not, of course,
but so there's whether you see it detract

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or not. Like this I feel
like is not a shared perspective, And

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I know you don't share it,
Travis, because you stand on that that

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that us all the good guys winning. That's that's yeah, that's that's where

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you stand. Yeah, And so
for me, I see it as okay,

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Anakin he fulfilled that prophecy. He
defeated the Sith, the Sith died

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with him in a retroactively like Disney
retroactively undid that. And I feel like

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that sequel trilogy undid that more than
anything this episode would have done, touching

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upon Anakin being born of the Force
and retroactively affecting him in his significance.

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And just one more thing too.
The Jedi have no idea that these twins

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were made through the Force and through
well we don't know that yet, right,

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That could be a reason why they're
there, because don't's dad. Yeah,

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they asked where's the father? And
here's one thing where that's where.

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Yeah, j you can answer your
question where you go. Plus they're like

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you already answer. But plus the
redefine what the Force means. That doesn't

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mean anything. George Lucas redefined the
Force meaning himself in the original trilogy.

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It was something you could feel in
the prequel. It's a blood test,

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and to me, it's just like
what in this episode too? Well,

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yeah, yeah, exactly right,
and it's it's like, ta, can

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you tell me the definitive version origin
of God and Jesus? You can't because

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everybody has like a difference even if
you don't believe in it. People have

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different My point is there, you
can admit that there's not one peer.

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This is the god. This is
everyone's God, right, everyone has a

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different God or what they look up
or they don't look up to. So

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for me, now I've accepted that
I don't like the Medichlorians. That's the

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George method, and that's where it's
like for me, it's already like they've

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we've been here before and Star Wars
was destroyed and then they come back and

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I again, I see Derek in
the chat. I don't think it will

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have a steep drop off. I
think it has a step drop off.

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It's because people don't invest a show. I don't think the general audience has

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watched its being like, oh my
god, they're redefining the Force. I

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don't think so. I think they're
just wanting to be entertained. And that's

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a question of I people will not
be entertained by this episode because it could

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be looked at as dull. I
enjoyed it, But for me, the

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force being redefined doesn't matter because it
is their interpretation, that's their culture.

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It's the same way we look at
it, right, it's the same way

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people in our world look at religion. Everybody can. People can like there

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are churches that come from the same
Bible that some people are gonna say,

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Hey, if you have a kid
at weblock, you're going to hell or

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that's completely fine. We have churches
here everywhere right where. Hey, if

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you're gay or anything else, you're
not accepted. And then we have a

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church downtown that literally has a rainbow
flag, and not because it's due,

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it has all the times saince.
Everyone's accepted to be the opposite of that

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right, And that's thing that to
me is like the religion force thing that

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just doesn't bug me because like that's
how they interview it. There's no answer

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and what the force still is,
even though George kind of still said,

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like to me, it is like
it's unfortunately like a thing in your body

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count you know, like like it's
like our likes, it's like a strength

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or testastrone. I don't like that. I still go with, hey,

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what is Star Wars? Like,
what is the force? To me,

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it's a feeling something that you can
tap in and maybe some people are stronger

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than others. I don't like it. Being like a science test. But

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that's something George did, right,
So I don't think this to me did

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anything but the threads and the methods
of the Twins. I don't think it

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did anything that it hasn't done before. You know, Yeah, I think

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like to touch upon the relationship factor
between these two witch is, I feel

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like you're probably getting a lot of
hatred obviously directed towards that, but I

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think you're getting a lot of people
that and I dare not speak for people.

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I am just I'm just saying this
based on my own observation, but

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I think people are feeling exhausted from
just having it portrayed every not every,

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but a majority of media's and in
different hyps and everything like that. And

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so when it hits something that maybe
they they're big Star Wars fans, and

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then all of a sudden, it's
just consistently and start well, it's not

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consistently in Star Wars. We had
one scene in Rise of Skywalker, and

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I think that's the only other time
and so yeah, yeah, it was

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very brief. But then I think
people like this being the first real time

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in Star Wars that were really kind
of exploring that which they don't even kiss

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as well either. They don't even
kiss, No, they just do it.

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I like caressing. But I think
it's I think it's not Star Wars

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to blame. It's no one to
blame or anything. But I think it's

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just it's just being presented in all
these different mediums, all on social media,

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everything like that. And so when
it when it is like, oh,

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it's right here again in Star Wars, it's like, well we have

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Star Wars. Isn't all the time
always this. Star Wars is focusing on

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many different aspects and different relationships and
dynamics and narratives, And so I think

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that is that making sense? I'm
trying to I don't want to offend anyone

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how I'm saying. I think I
get what you mean. But at the

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same time, like that's where people, I think, kind of have to

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grow up. And it's like culture
and art and film and TV and music,

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they all change with the times,
right, Like that's the thing.

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It doesn't just stay. It doesn't
just say well, Stars is always this.

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It's like it's something that it can't
if you always want to be what

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it is. Those movies are there, you know, like they're not gone.

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They're not going back at anything things
and so if it really bugs you,

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but it's just like they do these
things now the same reason why many

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actors of color would get passed over
because like, well they can't lead a

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film, where nowadays that happens and
people get more chances. So I get

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what you mean. But then at
the same time, I think it's like

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the guy from the Eric Krypti or
obviously the last name we did the Boys

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where he said, like, how
do you feelbout people getting offended by like

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the Homeland or Trump comparisons, And
it's like, then, don't watch a

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show. And homelanders supporters, right, they think he's the hero. Well

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yeah, and they're mad about that
and stuff and that I agree with him.

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You just don't watch a show.
And that's where it's the same thing,

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like Derek, I see you in
the chat. You're saying that,

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you know, they also dropped off
the SOCA. That's the thing where I

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still talk about the good and reaction
writing what in Ahsoka. Ahsoka didn't do

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any big heavy lore retooling. There
was no you know, other sexual oriententation,

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love interests in there or anything like
that. So that's where to me.

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It's just like, that's the example
right there of you could and there's

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many people have talked to said,
hey, I didn't like Ahsoka, I

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was bored by I didn't like X
Y and Z. I liked Ahsoka.

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I don't think it was the strongest, but I could see someone be like,

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yeah, it wasn't for me.
But again, I still think it

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comes down to the writing and the
characters and what people are in for,

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right and we'll see the true success
that it will be. If this isn't

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goet A season two, then that's
a clear message right there. Hey,

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00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,440
hey, it did drop off and
it didn't do what they wanted to do.

404
00:24:36,559 --> 00:24:40,400
We never know what they do want
to happen. But Phantom just saying,

405
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,319
I'm genuinely confused why people don't like
the show. Can someone explain to

406
00:24:42,319 --> 00:24:45,079
me. I've seen a lot of
rants about the show, very few made

407
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:49,519
genuine tempt to honestly evaluate its merits. I think it's tough because you got

408
00:24:49,599 --> 00:24:52,559
to find the right circles. If
you're just looking online, it is a

409
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:57,640
general like, okay, it starts
off already female led and a female creator

410
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,920
show that is tough, and it
is like it is a tough thing because

411
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,079
I don't want anybody that they don't
like the show to feel like you don't

412
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:08,079
like it because it's a female centric
show. And I don't even think it's

413
00:25:08,319 --> 00:25:11,720
like female centric, like it like
she is the main character, but I

414
00:25:11,759 --> 00:25:15,640
don't think it is. I don't
think it's that way where it's like a

415
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,440
coming age tale, this young lady. I feel like with Soul and her

416
00:25:19,519 --> 00:25:22,440
and some other Jedi stuff, it's
kind of pretty bounced. So for me,

417
00:25:22,599 --> 00:25:26,480
it's like it is tough where you
walk a fine line where if you

418
00:25:26,519 --> 00:25:27,720
don't like it, you're gonna be
throwing that category, which I don't think

419
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,119
should be the case. So so
you just have to find it. That's

420
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,759
why to me, stuff like oh, it being like a three out of

421
00:25:33,799 --> 00:25:37,680
ten on IMDb after like before the
first episode even airs, you can't really

422
00:25:37,759 --> 00:25:38,960
judge it. So you just gotta
find your pockets. Let's say, hey,

423
00:25:40,039 --> 00:25:41,559
join our discord. We like to
create those pockets and stuff like that.

424
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,640
But I can see some things of
people saying, hey, sometimes it

425
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,079
looks good, but sometimes it looks
cheaper, not that well shot. Okay,

426
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:52,319
fine, if some people are not
liking certain characters, that's always a

427
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,920
like a general thing. Right,
if there's some people that don't like we've

428
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,720
talked about the tiptoeing of they haven't
seen the scyth in a and then you

429
00:26:00,799 --> 00:26:03,119
know the Sith are here and they
don't explain that. Then yeah, so

430
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,480
I can see there is, of
course things, but I think a lot

431
00:26:07,559 --> 00:26:11,880
of the things are turned to hyperbolic, you know, And that's the problem

432
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,920
of for me. I said this
last week where I didn't have any major

433
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,240
issues with this episode or the episodes, but I didn't have major love of

434
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,960
the soul and stuff. That's where
I think for me, I'm fine if

435
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,440
the Stars show just continues to be
like good and I enjoy it. Where

436
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:26,799
there is like it has to be
the best, there has to be the

437
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,119
worst, or it's saving Stars,
or it's destroying Star Wars, right,

438
00:26:30,519 --> 00:26:34,559
like I don't like and who knows, maybe I'll be wrong, maybe that

439
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,759
this is destroying Star Wars and every
Star Wars movie bombs and yet da da

440
00:26:38,839 --> 00:26:41,960
da, and we can go back
and say, oh, yeah, ACTLTE

441
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:45,920
was that show, right, because
Last Jedi you could maybe argue that too

442
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,279
for some people that that changed things. But to me, Last Jedi was

443
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,799
way bigger than what this would be. And I think that's also because that's

444
00:26:52,839 --> 00:26:56,559
with the main characters. I think
the characters meant more to people than the

445
00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,400
lore, you know, and even
then, like it just destroyed it,

446
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,240
but like it didn't destroy but like, okay, what was the hang on

447
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,759
Last Jedi box office? Over a
billion? No, I know that it's

448
00:27:07,799 --> 00:27:10,759
one point three billion, right,
and then Rise of Skywalker, I'm pretty

449
00:27:10,759 --> 00:27:15,200
sure that is a billion, so
it made about three hundred thou or three

450
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,240
hundred million lasts, so yeah,
it's one point zero seven. So this

451
00:27:18,319 --> 00:27:21,200
is a point where, of course
I'm not saying and I think the equivalent

452
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,920
of this people could tune out of
the show, maybe season two, they

453
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,720
don't come back. But I still
think that has to do with more of

454
00:27:26,799 --> 00:27:30,519
the quality of it, because still
people said Last Jedi ruined stars, but

455
00:27:30,799 --> 00:27:34,279
you know it's Skywalker's still billion dollar
movie. Yes it's a finale all these

456
00:27:34,319 --> 00:27:38,000
main characters, but still it wasn't
like a solo or anything, right,

457
00:27:38,079 --> 00:27:41,359
So it's just like, that's why
I can't jump to the hyperbolic stuff until

458
00:27:41,839 --> 00:27:45,400
we see the results of it later
on, because I don't know what this

459
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,359
is gonna do, because maybe it
does, but then I just think I

460
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,519
don't really think it destroys Star Wars. I think it's just the ACTLTE would

461
00:27:51,559 --> 00:27:55,200
fail and then they would just move
on, you know, like they would

462
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,119
just k, we're not gonna do
any ACTLTE Like the Ryan Johnson trilogy.

463
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,599
Right last Jedi, they really happy
with it. We're gonna announce he's doing

464
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,799
a trilogy. The movie is mixed, of course, successful but mixed.

465
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,000
Uh, they've never done the trilogy
and they're never gonna, right, And

466
00:28:08,039 --> 00:28:11,759
maybe that's the way. I don't
know if Aclite's gonna end in a cliffhanger

467
00:28:11,799 --> 00:28:15,960
way. So for me, I
still don't personally see anything. I see

468
00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:21,200
what upsets like the really either crazy
people or the people that majority of them

469
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,079
are not actually that upset. They
just want to make a red eye thumbnail

470
00:28:23,079 --> 00:28:26,119
so they can get that one hundred
K video right, Like, tons of

471
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,160
them don't even care that much.
They just know how the system works.

472
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:33,519
And YouTube is usually or lots of
YouTube and social media in general are things

473
00:28:33,559 --> 00:28:38,119
that are fueled by negativity, so
that's easier to get the click. So

474
00:28:38,599 --> 00:28:41,960
we'll see, But I don't think
and there is here's the thing Aclyte failing

475
00:28:42,039 --> 00:28:45,759
is going to hurt future projects.
I only think it would hurt a certain

476
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,079
era of the project. I think
it's like what we've talked about is if

477
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,759
it's this era the Knights of a
Republic. But I don't think if Aclyte

478
00:28:53,839 --> 00:28:57,559
were to do poorly, they would
cancel the Mandal Worrin movie. I don't

479
00:28:57,599 --> 00:29:00,480
see that, you know, like
I feel like there's sections of Star Wars

480
00:29:00,599 --> 00:29:03,920
right now and again we'll see because
we've heard this before, I oh,

481
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,400
this isn't successful, and then you
know a season two and if the season

482
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,920
two gets announced, and for me, it's like, well, they can't

483
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,680
be that unhappy with it, and
so I really don't know. I can't

484
00:29:14,759 --> 00:29:18,000
make those things. I don't think
it is, in my opinion, hurting

485
00:29:18,079 --> 00:29:22,359
the brand as like a Sony Marvel
is to me, where that's like the

486
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,240
bottom of the bottom barrel comic movies
that when they see that, I think

487
00:29:26,279 --> 00:29:29,319
there's still enough to enjoy in the
show, especially for GA people that don't

488
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,599
just like care that much about the
Lord. They just want to see light

489
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,519
sabers and characters they like, and
that to me, I don't think.

490
00:29:34,839 --> 00:29:40,039
I don't think hit this year.
I have issues with this episode, but

491
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:45,640
I don't know, I lost my
train of thought. I was there a

492
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,279
little bit ago, but I'm not
sure where to pick up on that.

493
00:29:48,359 --> 00:29:52,799
I think you basically hit it on
the head though, and laid it out.

494
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,200
Yeah, I don't know. I
guess. I guess we'll see how

495
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,680
it goes. But for me that
was my issue. Is now that my

496
00:29:56,799 --> 00:30:00,640
issue was okay, so we'll get
into the actual episod, so now where

497
00:30:00,119 --> 00:30:03,039
it's a full flashback episode or whatever, Like I said, a Palk episode.

498
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,920
Really enjoyed that because I said,
I wish we'd get an episode just

499
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,799
focused on May and we didn't get
that. But we're kind of getting this

500
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,400
in a way where we're picking up
with the girls. Like we talked about,

501
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,319
these are a type of witches.
They're not Daft miroritches, but they're

502
00:30:15,359 --> 00:30:18,480
type of witches. They are,
you know, using the force. But

503
00:30:18,599 --> 00:30:22,000
again it's I get I don't know, it's much like the Daft mir riches

504
00:30:22,039 --> 00:30:26,400
where sometimes they would talk about things
and be like that's kind of changing the

505
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:27,480
force method too, Like I don't
know. So for me, I'm just

506
00:30:27,559 --> 00:30:33,319
kinda fine with it now. But
they are training these two students you eventually

507
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,880
learned that you know the main character
or I'll have to find other names when

508
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,359
Taylor's going. But our main mother
and then the other one with like the

509
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,000
horns. They are a couple,
and they gave shit. One gave birth

510
00:30:45,039 --> 00:30:48,680
to twins. One created them.
They said they didn't tell us how they

511
00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:51,759
did that, and I'm fine if
they don't, because I feel like that

512
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:56,319
was just them alluding to almost like
you're using dark side power. Right.

513
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,279
It's the same way to me as
like there's certain things you can't do if

514
00:31:00,279 --> 00:31:03,000
you're a Light side Jedi. So
to me, that's just like this version

515
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,119
of a you're using those type of
dark forces. So I liked the setup.

516
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,079
I liked the world. I liked
meaning of these witches. I liked

517
00:31:10,279 --> 00:31:14,759
the environment For the most part.
I liked this weird type of like half

518
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,839
ship area they were at, you
know, like I don't know what it

519
00:31:18,079 --> 00:31:21,359
was the building they were at.
But so I like seeing like another type

520
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,519
of witch because we've only seen them
in Clone Wars, and honestly, they're

521
00:31:23,519 --> 00:31:29,960
coming into Mando and ah Soaka and
everything, but I enjoy seeing them so

522
00:31:30,079 --> 00:31:36,119
many years before everything. So they
introduced different witches and Tales of the Empire

523
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:41,759
as well. In the episode were
destroyed by Grievous. They showcased in other

524
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:47,519
witch groups that followed different beliefs on
Dat and Mayor, which is kind of

525
00:31:47,559 --> 00:31:52,359
cool. But this group, though, I thought it was fantastic. I

526
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,240
really really enjoyed the group. I
thought it was really unique. And again,

527
00:31:56,279 --> 00:32:01,559
they're they're tapping into this i'm assuming
dark side force, even though I

528
00:32:01,599 --> 00:32:05,720
don't know if they were necessarily using
it for the for dark side reasons.

529
00:32:05,759 --> 00:32:07,240
And I think that's one of the
things that's interesting about witches. They can

530
00:32:07,279 --> 00:32:09,440
tap into this dark side of the
forest and this power, but they're not

531
00:32:09,519 --> 00:32:14,839
consumed by it, right, they
can just harness it. I had a

532
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:19,559
train of thought, what was my
thoughts? Though? I know I'm losing

533
00:32:19,599 --> 00:32:24,200
my trains of thoughts. So how
are my trains of thoughts? Uh?

534
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:29,480
Crud? Oh my god. So
we're talking about the twins, We're talking

535
00:32:29,519 --> 00:32:31,519
about the dark side with the witches. Anything in the witch's culture you wanted

536
00:32:31,519 --> 00:32:38,039
to point out about them. There's
no children there. Ah, We're gonna

537
00:32:38,039 --> 00:32:39,880
move on. I'll come back to
you. Just come back to me.

538
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:44,319
I've lost it. So then we
got introduced early on that the Jedi are

539
00:32:44,359 --> 00:32:46,160
like skulking around, but they're not
gonna get into that. And then yeah,

540
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:51,039
we see that there's May and all
gone and forgetting the other one's name,

541
00:32:51,599 --> 00:32:54,400
what's the oh shi I'm gonna get
At one point even at this episode,

542
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,079
I was like, Okay, I'm
gonna I'm gonna remember it. So

543
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,599
we get to see that one May
is like very in tune with the powers

544
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,839
varying tune and everything all gung ho
to be this witch stuff, which is

545
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,160
like, I feel like it's not
until first fifteen minutes of episodes they actually

546
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,400
say the word witch right, So
at first it's like, what are they?

547
00:33:10,519 --> 00:33:14,480
Is it just like a force users? Are they a type of Jedi?

548
00:33:14,599 --> 00:33:16,279
Who knows? Do you got it? Taylor? I got it?

549
00:33:16,319 --> 00:33:20,160
I got so Well we'll pick back
up on the twinsling after, but Taylor

550
00:33:20,359 --> 00:33:24,680
gets his thoughts. He's there.
So the witches now them Obviously the Jedi

551
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,799
are aware of them, wear what
they're doing, and they were kind of

552
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,279
forced out into the situation. Now, I think that the concept of how

553
00:33:32,079 --> 00:33:36,559
uh the Jedi just appeared there and
like, oh, the Jedi don't have

554
00:33:36,599 --> 00:33:38,079
duck children. The Jedi don't take
children or whatever, and the fact that

555
00:33:38,119 --> 00:33:44,440
they're here and their main issue is
that these force users are actually training children,

556
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,519
yes out and they're not Jedi.
I was eating all that up,

557
00:33:47,599 --> 00:33:52,599
like man, that is it's not
showing. It shows maybe like ah,

558
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:57,839
what's the proper word, Like it
shows like how the Jedi are not really

559
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,000
afraid, but they're they're fearful of
what this outcome could be. I think

560
00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:04,559
it shows that at the same time, they're aware that this could lead to

561
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,239
very dangerous things like Sith lords and
other things. Yeah, they want to

562
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:12,599
control, like they want to control
the narrative as far as when it comes

563
00:34:12,599 --> 00:34:15,199
to the force, like they want
to be the guiding light to anybody with

564
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,239
the Force, which is which I
saw some pushback already, which I guess

565
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,199
I kind of get to where they
are coming for these kids when they're older

566
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,400
and they go after like you know, like OSHA's going to be adopted after

567
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,440
lots of trauma stuff. But at
the same time, I guess the reason

568
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,760
I'm okay with it is because this
is so many hundreds of years late,

569
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:37,679
like earlier. I don't know what
their method is now, Like when did

570
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:42,400
it start from being like oh,
this is a certain age. Maybe again,

571
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,079
that's the thing. When you're playing
in this timeline, maybe this point

572
00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:49,599
eight was like acceptable or more acceptable, right, but now when you got

573
00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:52,199
to the Anakin route, maybe it
wasn't. And I don't know if someone

574
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,880
has the Jedi Handbook that says hey
from the Old Republic, and maybe there

575
00:34:55,039 --> 00:34:58,519
is. But that's a tough thing
because a lot of that stuff is not

576
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,480
canon now, right, So like
they can kind of make their own so

577
00:35:01,039 --> 00:35:05,039
again, and I'm fine with because
I think some people might look at this

578
00:35:05,079 --> 00:35:07,320
and say, oh, paints the
Jedi and the bad light. Well,

579
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,480
then you're just not watching the prequels
correctly, because like that's all the Prequels

580
00:35:10,519 --> 00:35:14,199
is painting the Jedi in a bad
light, because like that's part of the

581
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,599
reason why they lead to their downfall. All the not too much of the

582
00:35:16,639 --> 00:35:20,079
Regional trilogy, there's a little bit, but then in the New trilogy it

583
00:35:20,199 --> 00:35:22,239
is all about the pass has to
die. So it's like this isn't a

584
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:28,480
foreign concept of the Jedi got it
wrong, and this idea of I think

585
00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:31,840
there is some warrant to like I
get there perspective their Jedi, they want

586
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,559
to control the Force, and also
it is a law, but at the

587
00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:37,440
same time, from the Witch's perspective, is kind of fucked up. These

588
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,639
people can just show up on your
doorstep and you know, say, hey,

589
00:35:39,639 --> 00:35:42,760
you should you got to give us
these kids because they might have the

590
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,880
force, you know. Like that. That's why I like from both sides

591
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,559
seeing it. So I don't mind
when Jedis are made to look to be

592
00:35:47,679 --> 00:35:52,960
kind of dickish, because they multiple
times are kind of very arrogant and just

593
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:58,039
self focused. Right, even if
they're kind like Soul's self focused, he's

594
00:35:58,079 --> 00:36:00,920
still all about like, yeah,
and you'll be a Jedi and I'll train

595
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:05,400
you. It's not like it's not
like he's like really emotional or taking account

596
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,079
that what these people might feel of
taking the kids or the kids feeling that.

597
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,679
He's just all about, oh,
you could be a Jedi, which

598
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:14,039
I love that moment where he did. They're they're arguing and he takes a

599
00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:15,519
saber route and they all think it's
gonna be a fight, and he gives

600
00:36:15,639 --> 00:36:19,679
the child the Savor, which I
think is a great like disarmored to show

601
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,199
like, hey, I'm not using
this as a weapon. So Soul continues

602
00:36:22,199 --> 00:36:24,559
to be a great character, but
he still has those jediisms of he still

603
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,559
just wants to take these kids,
right, and that's what the Jedis do.

604
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:34,000
So yeah, exactly. So yeah, we meet them and May she's

605
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,880
very, like I said in tune, wants to do this. Oh she

606
00:36:37,079 --> 00:36:39,280
is very iffy about it. Doesn't
know what she wants to be a witch,

607
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:43,199
doesn't really. I guess the other
thing we see a couple of times

608
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,119
in this episode where May is doing
great and Ochi's not, whether it's Ochi's

609
00:36:46,119 --> 00:36:49,599
seeing it or other people like her, oh mother being like, you have

610
00:36:49,679 --> 00:36:52,199
to do better, Ochi. Like, I think it's that she is so

611
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,000
tied to her sister that even if
she is good at what she's doing,

612
00:36:54,039 --> 00:36:59,239
because her sister's great, she's always
in this huge shadow, you know,

613
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,800
like not never in the line like
not saying she wants to be like Papa

614
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,960
and thing. I just mean like
it definitely feels like she has like second

615
00:37:06,079 --> 00:37:08,679
child syndrome, you know, where
I don't want a Jeam Sissons episode.

616
00:37:08,679 --> 00:37:13,239
I don't want to always be attached
to you or with you, which is

617
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,360
not like when I last two weeks
and there was nothing to give me that

618
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:20,639
I just thought that was the way
it was going, I thought, okay,

619
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,840
they were the best of friends sisters, and then there was this thing

620
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:27,280
that happened and then May went missing. And that's why it kind of explains

621
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,559
to me last week when they saw
each other, it wasn't this big embrace

622
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,760
or a big reunion like oh my
god, and there's other stuff of the

623
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:37,639
episode we're gonna get to, but
they weren't on like great terms near the

624
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,400
end. They weren't like lovey dovey. They weren't like, like, literally,

625
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:45,360
the plan is, hey, screw
up this Jedi interview, and oh

626
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,079
a Bay does it, and then
was oh, she does the exact opposite

627
00:37:47,119 --> 00:37:51,320
and starts talking more about being a
Jedi. So I was surprised, and

628
00:37:51,559 --> 00:37:53,280
I liked that wrinkle. There's more
wrinkles to get into about them, but

629
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:58,480
I liked that wrinkle of they weren't
on the best terms. They weren't like

630
00:37:58,559 --> 00:38:00,880
the best sisters ever. They were
much different. So now that makes sense

631
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:07,480
of why as grown ups they're not
just itching to get back into each other's

632
00:38:07,519 --> 00:38:09,360
life, especially at least May right
because she could have, but she drove

633
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:14,519
off last week. So yeah,
well, I mean, how do you

634
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,840
like? I was not expecting that
line too, and May storms into She's

635
00:38:19,199 --> 00:38:22,320
accommodations like, you know, you
can't leave. I'm not gonna let you.

636
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:23,079
Like, what are you gonna need
to stop me? I'll kill you.

637
00:38:23,199 --> 00:38:27,880
It's like, holy fuck, that's
a red flag. And I thought

638
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,960
that was great. But I thought
I thought it was great. And I

639
00:38:31,119 --> 00:38:35,880
like the the illusions too of her, just like trying to force choke a

640
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:40,639
little butterfly button inside too. But
I thought, Okay, there's something else

641
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:45,039
going on. That is something else
afoot here, because you've Madison detected this.

642
00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:51,119
When May retreats from the room and
everything's burning, I know she's running

643
00:38:51,159 --> 00:38:53,360
through the cabins and caind Of comes
down below. You hear the explosions,

644
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,119
you hear like screams coming from up
top, but you don't see it.

645
00:38:57,519 --> 00:39:00,599
It's like, okay, what's going
on up there? And then she continues

646
00:39:00,679 --> 00:39:05,880
on, catches up with May again, and Soul is just already here.

647
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:12,559
And as you're running through afterwards,
after May disappears and Soul has oh you

648
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,360
see the actress. I can't remb
her name, but she's the head mother

649
00:39:16,559 --> 00:39:20,760
of the clan and she's already laying
on the ground dead and you see bodies

650
00:39:21,079 --> 00:39:23,519
grouped together, all lying down.
I'm thinking, Okay, this seems very

651
00:39:23,599 --> 00:39:29,519
suspicious, and maybe I'm overreading it, and maybe Disney is just gonna leave

652
00:39:29,559 --> 00:39:32,760
it as that and that they just
did die in the explosion, or maybe

653
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,400
there is something going on here,
because to me it feels like and I

654
00:39:36,599 --> 00:39:38,480
doubt it. I doubt that the
Jedi went in and actually did something,

655
00:39:38,559 --> 00:39:43,360
although that would be very dark,
but it was just soul, and maybe

656
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,480
Soul has a darker side to them
that we're not familiar with. I don't

657
00:39:45,519 --> 00:39:51,239
know. The alternative take on this
is that we could see that there was

658
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,480
some conflict that was forming between our
witches here and the dynamic of what to

659
00:39:54,559 --> 00:39:58,199
do with the children, if we
should like puish them or keep them,

660
00:39:58,519 --> 00:40:00,639
and so maybe that had a fallout
here and maybe just this fire kind of

661
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:05,679
instigated it. Maybe the fire was
not May's idea. Maybe it was I

662
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,760
can't remember the mother's name that carried
her with the Zabrack female that she was

663
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:14,320
very much resistant and opposing the Jedi, say let's kill these Jedilets and they're

664
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,599
not going to be missed, and
so maybe she instigated something with May and

665
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,360
maybe after the fact, who knows, Maybe that Zabrek woman because I don't

666
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,679
remember seeing her body on the ground
unless I have to revisit that scene again.

667
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:28,960
Maybe she helped connect May to this
the Master, right, Like,

668
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,119
there's some interesting storylines here that are
gonna unwind that I'm excited for. But

669
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:38,719
I don't feel like those witches all
died from the fire up top. It

670
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:44,719
seemed like something was fishy, and
I hope so, because for me,

671
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:52,440
the idea of this fire just killing
everybody and taking them out is just that

672
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,559
is one of the most lazy pissport
writing of all time. And because I

673
00:40:55,679 --> 00:41:00,440
rewound because I'm watching and yeah,
he steals the book. And so here's

674
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,519
the thing I will say. I
did not like the May turn. I

675
00:41:02,599 --> 00:41:07,199
thought this is where we needed the
episode to be longer, because I get

676
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:12,360
that she's disappointed, but to jump
from literally executing her sister. I needed

677
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,280
more backstory there, and that's somewhere
I think that was poor writing. I

678
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:21,679
needed more time, more backstory,
more reasoning of just she just wants to

679
00:41:21,679 --> 00:41:24,280
be a Jedi, so she wants
to die, like I, just like

680
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:28,760
she wants her sister to die for
that, like I wish there was way

681
00:41:29,159 --> 00:41:32,280
more throughout the years or months or
just more than just a few couple of

682
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,360
days we saw where oh they're you
know, kind of not getting along and

683
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:37,480
she wants to leave, so screw
you, I'm gonna kill you, and

684
00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:42,519
to like to burn like that's a
huge like to me, that's something where

685
00:41:42,599 --> 00:41:46,880
I feel that classic Disney Star Wars. I hope it's not that May is

686
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:52,000
gonna turn good at the end because
to me, like that's like, think

687
00:41:52,039 --> 00:41:53,880
about there, we're done with last
Jedi a lot tonight. Right, everyone

688
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:58,079
has always a big problem with the
Luke whatever thing with Kylo, Right,

689
00:41:58,119 --> 00:42:00,280
my Luke wouldn't do that yet to
doesn't matter. He Paul's lights there,

690
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,800
he's gonna do it, and he
at least like thinks about it. You

691
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,599
know this, And granted she's a
little kid, but this is her own

692
00:42:06,639 --> 00:42:09,000
sister. She did like she didn't
think about it, And then I would

693
00:42:09,039 --> 00:42:12,679
have understood if she'd lock her in
the room, was gonna burn her and

694
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,599
then thought against it. No if
she if oh she didn't find a way

695
00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:20,440
out, she was just ready to
just burn her sister to Chris, So

696
00:42:20,559 --> 00:42:23,719
to me, that was a way
way too big a jump for me to

697
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:28,599
buy that I did not get there, and I hope now that may does

698
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,320
just stay evil because to me,
that's such an evil hack that you can't

699
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:35,639
come back from that. So that
scene happens, and then when everyone's dead,

700
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,360
I was so confused. I'm like, did I miss something? Did

701
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,320
I not understand because I heard the
explosion. So I watched back and watched

702
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,639
the whole thing. And That's where
I'm like, you where this has to

703
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,599
and as I sit out more,
this has to be something more, especially

704
00:42:47,679 --> 00:42:52,360
with we saw the meditating Jedi last
week right where they talked about how he

705
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:59,039
felt so kind of scarred from that
day, right and things that went down?

706
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,760
To me, what have the Jedi
done that would make it seem like

707
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,320
you would be emostly traumatized as a
as a Knight, Like, what what

708
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,840
happened from what our events we saw, Taylor? Is there anything? Because

709
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:14,239
I wouldn't think so. If you
were on a planet and a fire start

710
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,079
and a bunch of people died,
that's not on you, right, I

711
00:43:16,159 --> 00:43:19,559
mean it was a Padawan at the
time. It's very traumatizing. Well,

712
00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:24,719
I guess hand for him to self
exposed exile. Yeah, there is something

713
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:29,760
up all right, hope, because
if it is just they died in the

714
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:34,280
fire and May accidentally killed them,
that is something where to me that is

715
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,559
worse than any force babies, sexual
orientation, whatever, like just like this

716
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:44,519
fire caught like a breaker and it
blew and it killed all these witches.

717
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,679
Like what, I think that there
is definitely the potential that, yeah,

718
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,719
the the Jedi responsible for something like
that. And I think that this this

719
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,639
could really pay off in the fact
that if you were to retrospectively after you

720
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:59,840
get to that end, let's say
it's the penultimate episode, as you'd say,

721
00:44:00,159 --> 00:44:04,039
and you get the the reveal that, oh my god, it was

722
00:44:04,639 --> 00:44:07,400
these four Jedi that went through that
temple because Soul was there mighty quick and

723
00:44:07,519 --> 00:44:10,079
they just cut the witches down to
try and get the kids out of there,

724
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,320
and they did it on their own
record. Now, if you have

725
00:44:13,559 --> 00:44:17,519
that unfold and then you can go
back and watch the beginning first few episodes

726
00:44:17,559 --> 00:44:22,519
and it fills in the gaps and
you just it's it satisfies that rewatch,

727
00:44:22,679 --> 00:44:25,199
right, and you can see how
they're acting and how they're responding, like

728
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:30,719
Dara who's responding to May and that
fight sequence it'll change that interaction now,

729
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:35,719
and I think that that there's a
lot of potential here for this in retrospect.

730
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,039
So I do hope as much as
I hate the idea of Jedi going

731
00:44:38,079 --> 00:44:42,800
in there and killing and it would
really be a twist on Jedi Master Soul's

732
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,960
character. Yeah, that to me, that's gonna really come down to execution,

733
00:44:47,079 --> 00:44:51,719
because that to me is more if
people are pushing back the whole Oh

734
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,800
the Jedi coming in and taking these
kids away from a community, that I

735
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:58,599
can believe if these four just decide, hey, it's best for us to

736
00:44:58,679 --> 00:45:01,320
slaughter all these witches, I'm gonna
need to see more or if it is

737
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:05,360
just yeah, they decide to do
that in these Jedi are they are bad?

738
00:45:05,519 --> 00:45:07,880
They are and that's fine. Like
you could argue that, oh,

739
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,719
shouldn't it be a Sith action,
But I'm sure that Jedi have done many

740
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:14,280
questionable things thinking it was the right
thing right, And who knows, maybe

741
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:15,920
they'll even do a thing where they
show that the witches made the move first,

742
00:45:16,079 --> 00:45:20,079
like there was a fight or a
struggle and the Jedi's got the upper

743
00:45:20,119 --> 00:45:22,639
hand. But I do think they
got a kind of tightrope walk there because

744
00:45:22,639 --> 00:45:27,159
I think that is odd for a
bunch of Jedi to just go in there

745
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,920
and execute people unless you are condemning
them, right, And I guess,

746
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,719
like you said, you could be, because then that makes when you're watching

747
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:37,840
the show over again, that makes
me like the protagonists in a sense.

748
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:42,559
Right. But then it's strange because
she's also a protagonist that tried to burn

749
00:45:42,639 --> 00:45:45,280
her sister alive. So that's where
it's like, it's I feel and I

750
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:51,280
am worried. I feel that there's
a few things that could make the result

751
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,960
of this messy, and that's where
I think. I feel like I want

752
00:45:55,079 --> 00:46:00,239
to be something really well put together. But already with May trying to her

753
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:04,679
sister and then the Jedi also being
like potential killers, I think there's lots

754
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,880
of room for error there where I
think you go back and watch them things,

755
00:46:07,559 --> 00:46:12,719
but I don't know. It's it's
something, but I'm always, like

756
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,760
I said before, for me,
I have to see the episode. I

757
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,159
can't fully judge out to see the
season because we've thought it was before on

758
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,280
newscasts or anything. I've heard many
things and go, oh, that's gonna

759
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:23,559
be great, and it sucked.
And then I've seen many things where like

760
00:46:23,639 --> 00:46:27,719
all that sounds awful and then it's
great, right, So I'll wait to

761
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,400
see how it goes. It's all
about the execution, but I do think

762
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:36,960
there's something there. It's just a
question of the same way Luke felt all

763
00:46:37,199 --> 00:46:40,159
like he felt regret for the thing
that happened Mikayelo. At the end of

764
00:46:40,159 --> 00:46:44,039
the day, he still decided he
was not gonna kill Kylo Ren right he

765
00:46:44,119 --> 00:46:46,159
pulled the lightsaber or ben Sol,
but then he was gonna put it away.

766
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,079
But he still feels regret. So
it's the same thing of like it

767
00:46:50,119 --> 00:46:52,719
could be a Jedi thing that Hey, the Witches started this fight and they

768
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,840
did kill them all, and that's
why they regret it right off, Like

769
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,519
we could have handled that better,
We should have found a way. So

770
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:00,760
I think that would be the the
route to go, because I think if

771
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:07,320
they just execute them that, like, don't you think that could potentially like

772
00:47:08,119 --> 00:47:12,039
it's like you have these Jedi that
have executed all these people then gone back

773
00:47:12,079 --> 00:47:14,639
to just being Jedi. I think
it's very tough like that that to me,

774
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,519
it feels like they're all a bunch
of Anakin skywalkers. Then of him

775
00:47:16,559 --> 00:47:22,480
going and killing all the sad people, which to me is more like justified,

776
00:47:22,639 --> 00:47:24,920
like not that he should have done
that, but it's more justified because

777
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:30,119
Anakin Skywalker is a very emotional person. These people destroyed his mother. He's

778
00:47:30,199 --> 00:47:31,760
going to destroy them all, you
know. And that's where it's like with

779
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:37,400
these them, the Jedi just killing
them for power. I guess that could

780
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,199
be another wrinkle of them, how
lost they were, But I do think

781
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:43,239
that crosses a few lines. So
I'm kind of torn on it. Where

782
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,559
do you feel about if that is
the route they go, that the Jedi

783
00:47:45,639 --> 00:47:49,400
were the instigators and they just want
to take out this kind of witch battalion.

784
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,280
I mean, they just send the
Wookie in there and just like decimate

785
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:59,639
them all. Yeah, I think
that it's for the Jedi to go in

786
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:04,320
there and just start massacring them.
I don't necessarily see that. I see

787
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,840
it as that self defense. I
do think the Jedi are much more responsible

788
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,679
than they're letting on as we've were
discussed, and I do think that maybe

789
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:15,880
it is an act of self defense, but far that went too far.

790
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,360
I mean, and Dara was apprehensive
because so pulled his lightsaber, but obviously

791
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,320
it was to show, Oh she
just that there was an alternative path and

792
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:29,239
everything about that felt very Jedi like
and peaceful. But I do think that

793
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:34,400
you could have had you could have
had one of these, which is cast

794
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,039
out a speller do something to instigate
the fight. Well we could get that

795
00:48:37,159 --> 00:48:40,519
flashback though, right, Yeah,
yeah, when we I'm sure that,

796
00:48:40,639 --> 00:48:45,719
I'm sure we will. Yeah.
I think that the Jedi you see now

797
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:49,800
are very different from the Jedi you
see there. And Dara even feels very

798
00:48:50,199 --> 00:48:52,679
different, even though we had her
just briefly in that first episode and then

799
00:48:52,679 --> 00:48:57,559
we were in this flashback, she
feels different in between those two different scenarios.

800
00:48:58,119 --> 00:49:01,480
Obviously, that Jedi pada Wan game
doing like the brash Vour whatever that

801
00:49:01,599 --> 00:49:06,800
was called, he's obviously very very
different. Master Soul is exceptionally different.

802
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:08,320
And the Wookie, I mean,
I can't say he's just living like a

803
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:12,920
hermit and he's a weird cliffhanger.
Yeah, he's he's gotta cleaning. I

804
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,599
didn't do anything wrong, and even
this episode, like he just sniffed out

805
00:49:15,639 --> 00:49:19,719
the kids and was like, yeah, they're over there, so I'm interested.

806
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,239
But yeah, we got on the
cliffhanger. I imagine next week we're

807
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,119
getting that thing where they go and
shoot out, like they kill all the

808
00:49:25,199 --> 00:49:30,320
Jedi, right, I'm guessing kill
all the Jedi. Well, that scene

809
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:34,920
where we've seen the trailers where they
they're in the field and the Sith is

810
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,760
there this potential city. I think
that's next week. I feel like because

811
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:45,239
it's like it's wooded area, right, and then like they're going to the

812
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,360
Chewbacca and man like this. I
always love people like this, Eddie.

813
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:52,960
Keep defending garbage and they'll keep making
it. I think you have to go

814
00:49:52,159 --> 00:49:57,719
back to multiple minutes where I have
said that there was poor writing this episode,

815
00:49:58,119 --> 00:50:01,280
tired question things. It's not a
I don't need to defend them because

816
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:06,320
it's not my money. I just
talk about like what I feel on here,

817
00:50:06,559 --> 00:50:09,039
my personal feelings, Eddie. You
know it's it's it's all good,

818
00:50:09,119 --> 00:50:13,840
though it's this episode must have really
hurt you for some reason. I don't

819
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,800
know when. The three reasons,
and this is this is what I always

820
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:21,639
don't get. I'm guessing, Eddie. I'm guessing. I'm guessing Eddie that

821
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,800
you don't enjoy the show and what
Disney's making. Why not you personally?

822
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,119
Okay, Okay, that's fine,
You're Luckily, I guess this is the

823
00:50:30,159 --> 00:50:31,559
goal. It's not just for Ddie. This was for anybody that's like trolls

824
00:50:31,599 --> 00:50:36,440
and chats. I never understand if
there's a show you're not watching, why

825
00:50:36,519 --> 00:50:39,159
you're in a chat of it and
wasting your free time, Like, don't

826
00:50:39,199 --> 00:50:43,960
do that, you know. And
that's the thing where I and who knows.

827
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,039
I can't say defending Gards because like, I don't think everybody that likes

828
00:50:47,199 --> 00:50:51,719
the show to me is like blind
to of course, there's people that overly

829
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,559
hate stuff, and there's people that
overly love stuff. But I think there's

830
00:50:53,599 --> 00:50:57,239
generally people out here like like,
if you ask me right now, do

831
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,719
I like the show? I say
yes? But is the greatest thing?

832
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,400
No? Is it like a showgun
or Baby Reindier. No, Like it's

833
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:07,480
just like, okay, so far, it's a decent show right now and

834
00:51:07,559 --> 00:51:10,239
we'll see. But Taylor, oh
gosh, where we are we going right

835
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:14,519
now? We were talking about where
we're going. We're talking about the Jedi,

836
00:51:14,559 --> 00:51:16,639
We're talking about soul. Oh no, Chewba, it's not Chewbaca.

837
00:51:16,679 --> 00:51:21,480
Whoever? This whatever thing is right, Yeah, let's here, Eddie asses,

838
00:51:21,519 --> 00:51:23,000
at the end of the day,
do you want Star Wars to go

839
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:29,280
in this direction, define this direction
because like for me, yes, because

840
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,199
I want to explore more of the
past. So to me, it doesn't

841
00:51:32,199 --> 00:51:36,440
matter if you're the present, the
past, the future. Bad writing can

842
00:51:36,519 --> 00:51:38,519
be bad writing. So for me, I there's nothing in here that I

843
00:51:38,559 --> 00:51:40,760
didn't see where like, oh,
you can't explore that. That's not for

844
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:45,000
like, I don't like like there's
nothing. It's all about the execution.

845
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,199
I think there could be better writing
in the show. But I don't think

846
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:52,440
for me there's nothing where like what's
the what's the direction? Is it like

847
00:51:52,599 --> 00:51:57,400
having more gay couples? Sure that
doesn't bother me? Is it more of

848
00:51:57,519 --> 00:52:00,519
the playing with the force? They've
done that before and sometimes it sucks,

849
00:52:00,639 --> 00:52:05,199
But like that's like Midichlorins fucking suck. George Lucas crazed Star Wars and he

850
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,960
gave me that. But guess what, Like I have to deal with it.

851
00:52:07,079 --> 00:52:09,920
Midichlorins are here to stay. George
is a creator and now they're all

852
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,559
the fun. They're in fucking video
games and colm books all the time.

853
00:52:13,599 --> 00:52:15,840
So I just got to deal with
it. Right As far as like the

854
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,519
Jedi being evil, that I have
to see, right, because it's like,

855
00:52:19,559 --> 00:52:22,440
I gotta see the execution because if
it's like, yeah, these Jedi

856
00:52:22,559 --> 00:52:25,239
kill bunch of people and nothing really
happens, that is something, right,

857
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:30,199
girl, that's not great because I've
you and I have doctors in wavelengths.

858
00:52:30,559 --> 00:52:34,280
The fact that Ana can kill of
those sand people Yoda knew and nothing ever

859
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,840
happened. What fucking idiots. So
you know what, maybe I've answered the

860
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,960
question again the Jedi are just fucking
idiots in this era because they can be

861
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,079
like, hey, so what happened
on that planet? Oh? We just

862
00:52:44,599 --> 00:52:46,719
fucking assassinate all those witches. They're
like, yeah, bring it in,

863
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,960
man, like you got a new
a friend. Like that's what I mean.

864
00:52:50,079 --> 00:52:52,400
And maybe that's the case. It
might not be something I enjoy,

865
00:52:52,559 --> 00:52:55,599
But so for me, it's like, is there any red line for you?

866
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,159
The red line? I think I
said last week of like if they

867
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,239
woke up and it was like in
George's head, He's like, oh,

868
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:09,039
I had to me. It's just
like it's tough because I have many red

869
00:53:09,119 --> 00:53:12,519
lines, right, and I don't
think there's one big red line. The

870
00:53:12,599 --> 00:53:15,440
one big red line is Okay,
here's the biggest red line. Jack Black

871
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:21,000
and Liz on that fucking Star Wars
episode there's the biggest red line ever fucking

872
00:53:21,079 --> 00:53:22,519
Manalor in season three. But no, for me, it's mini ones of

873
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:28,199
like I like Luke Skywalker being the
only Jedi in the Dark Ages era,

874
00:53:28,519 --> 00:53:31,519
and guess what, that's not the
thing anymore. There's fucking eighteen million Jedis

875
00:53:31,559 --> 00:53:35,320
bouncing around. But it's not enough
for me to go, oh, I'm

876
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,159
done with Stars. I go,
oh, that sucks, and I don't

877
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,760
enjoy that aspect of it. I
think the red line is literally just that

878
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:45,559
I And that's fine if you do, but I have to dislike the writing,

879
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:49,159
the acting, the direction, and
all the effects are looking bad,

880
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,360
like for me, like it has
it has happened for stuff like I used

881
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,360
to be a huge wrestling fan,
Like, oh no, let me take

882
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:59,159
that back, Tay, I'll go
on a quick tangent here, I love

883
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:01,880
my whole life and then around.
I can't remember it was. I think

884
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,519
it was twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen. It just got to the point where

885
00:54:05,559 --> 00:54:08,920
everything was so bad. I did
stop watching for about almost half a decade,

886
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,840
and now I'm back because I enjoy
what they're doing with now and That's

887
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,119
why I always say to everybody,
just take a break, just don't wash

888
00:54:15,159 --> 00:54:17,440
this stuff, and then if something's
good or here it's good, or up

889
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:21,360
your alley, then come back to
it. So for me, I can't

890
00:54:21,519 --> 00:54:24,519
say de Lizzo nearly broke me.
That's ay was for Jack Black. So

891
00:54:24,639 --> 00:54:30,719
for me, the red line is
just everything overall bad because there's certain storyline

892
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:36,400
stuff that sucks a bunch already in
Star Wars Midichlorians, the fucking sequel trilogy.

893
00:54:36,519 --> 00:54:39,239
I still like it overall, but
the last Jediris Skywalker, all those

894
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:43,840
changes, Holy fuck, the Knights
of Ren. There's stuff in the original

895
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,400
trilogy that like, it's like,
ah, like, why does like a

896
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:51,280
red line? Why Taylor, We've
talked about this for years when Talbot still

897
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,840
we're eighteen years old. Why does
Vader get to go to space heaven?

898
00:54:55,199 --> 00:55:00,760
This man killed children? He gets
to be a go that Luke Skywalker talks

899
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:06,400
to No And here's my last red
line too, Fucking George Lucas and all

900
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:10,960
these stupid special editions, changing mcclun
key, the stupid dancers in Java Hut.

901
00:55:12,159 --> 00:55:15,440
They took out Yub Nub, they
took out Yub Nub in the new

902
00:55:15,599 --> 00:55:17,280
fucking version. I'm happy because I
have a DVD. I have the last

903
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:21,800
DVD print of the original versions.
But that's what I mean. These things

904
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,840
happen and I go, Okay,
that's what's gonna happen here. So you

905
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:30,000
guys talk about why thirty minute episode? I think we've always had that complaint

906
00:55:30,079 --> 00:55:32,480
about wouldn't it be great if it
was longer? But at the same point,

907
00:55:34,079 --> 00:55:35,960
and I'll let you answer that,
Taylor. For me, it's like

908
00:55:36,159 --> 00:55:37,840
when we just reviewed X Men and
those were thirty minute episodes and great.

909
00:55:38,199 --> 00:55:40,239
Now, I don't think it's down
the runtime. I think it is down

910
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:45,679
to the pacing and the writer.
So I think it would be better if

911
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,119
it was longer. At the same
time, then they should adapt. How

912
00:55:47,119 --> 00:55:52,639
are you feeling right now with the
three thirty minute episodes and stuff? Uh,

913
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:57,039
yub nub, I hear you,
Derek, Oh, it's this childhood

914
00:55:57,559 --> 00:56:00,679
I get it. I hate then
the song sucks now that's in the new

915
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,840
special editions. It sucks that's there, and they got stupid young Haynes Christiansen

916
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,079
there smiling. Luke doesn't know what
this guy is. He's never seen him

917
00:56:07,079 --> 00:56:12,000
in his life. So he also
mentioned too, like it's no Showgun.

918
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,760
I totally agree Showgun is an whole
tier of its own. It's no and

919
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,840
or even right, it's no,
it's no and or absolutely not, And

920
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,199
I think that goes to show the
writing. For me, this does feel

921
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,519
very prequelly, and it feels very
prequel esque and in terms of its writing

922
00:56:25,599 --> 00:56:30,079
and a dynamic. But sorry,
So, how do I feel about the

923
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:37,239
thirty minute episodes? Yeah, I
think that it's not ideal. I think

924
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:42,320
that this show should be It should
be forty five at least every time,

925
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,599
with five at least without credits as
well too, not none of this bullshit

926
00:56:45,679 --> 00:56:50,440
of like the eight minute credits or
anything. Some of my favorite shows again,

927
00:56:50,519 --> 00:56:54,880
a Game of Thrones, Yellowstone,
The Boys or Boys like these are

928
00:56:55,320 --> 00:57:00,440
these are really well reviewed shows and
they really dive into great narratives and dynamics

929
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:04,440
with our characters and relationships. And
that's because they have the time to really

930
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:09,079
funnel into this funnel, channel into
this information and portray these stories to us.

931
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:15,000
Where you have these quick, concise
episodes, I feel like it definitely

932
00:57:15,199 --> 00:57:20,079
withdraws a little bit from the story
and it's a con for me. Depending

933
00:57:20,119 --> 00:57:22,840
on the characters. Now we've had
Mando season one. I think that worked.

934
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,480
It was it was a variety.
Some were forty minutes somewhere down to

935
00:57:25,559 --> 00:57:29,840
like twenty which though that really sucked, but it was back and forth,

936
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:31,119
and that was at the time when
hey, each episode just feels like an

937
00:57:31,159 --> 00:57:37,199
adventure and we're just going forward for
that show that side quest. Absolutely,

938
00:57:37,559 --> 00:57:39,800
but here we have here, it's
not the case. I feel like,

939
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:44,760
here we have a pre planned arc
where we're going to be focusing on this

940
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:49,760
character's journey and conflicting with a member
of their past and the Jedi Order and

941
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,920
how that is all intermingled together.
And I feel like, Okay, this

942
00:57:52,119 --> 00:57:55,519
needs to have the time to really
just kind of let it simmer a bit

943
00:57:55,639 --> 00:58:00,400
and really kind of explore this narrative. And I feel like we're not necessarily

944
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,760
gonna get that. We're three episodes
in and this is an eight episode season.

945
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:07,079
Is that correct? Or is it
six episodes? It's oh, I

946
00:58:07,119 --> 00:58:09,480
think it's a yeah, yeah,
so it's eight episodes. And I feel

947
00:58:09,519 --> 00:58:14,280
like, man, we have we're
halfway fifty percent next week already, and

948
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,519
well, we're definitely getting through all
the past stuff and and getting towards that

949
00:58:17,599 --> 00:58:23,039
setup. I just I do feel
like something is not necessarily there yet.

950
00:58:23,239 --> 00:58:29,920
And even and Or was uh those
were they felt like longer episodes, but

951
00:58:30,039 --> 00:58:34,719
something still pretty short, right,
But I don't know what I have to

952
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,320
look because it's been two years.
I think they felt a bit longer,

953
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,360
but I also think like very long
season, right. Yeah. I think

954
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:44,480
one we didn't also mention to me
is something like obi Wan where we want

955
00:58:44,559 --> 00:58:46,280
it to be longer, but at
the same time, it's also just the

956
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:50,079
stuff in the episode. There's things
that just didn't need to be in there,

957
00:58:50,119 --> 00:58:52,239
and that's what it's like for the
length that you need to use it

958
00:58:52,119 --> 00:58:57,039
put the vital stuff. I'm not
saying anything that in these three episodes haven't

959
00:58:57,039 --> 00:59:00,039
happened that's vital. But again I've
said before like character size everything, they

960
00:59:00,079 --> 00:59:04,199
gotta be careful and what they do. I think this flashback episode is vital.

961
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,119
But we're gonna take an ad break
because we're gonna answer this question that

962
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:08,960
Eddie pose of what if the current
stuff has to fail for Stars to get

963
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:15,400
good again? So we'll be right
back and we're back, so to recontextualize

964
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,280
that, what if the current stuff
has to fail to make Star Wars good

965
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:22,960
again, that to me, it's
too subjective. It's because for me,

966
00:59:22,519 --> 00:59:25,000
let's say, most and Or episodes
were now long, thank you Derek,

967
00:59:25,079 --> 00:59:29,440
So there you go. And to
me, that phil that makes sense because

968
00:59:29,519 --> 00:59:31,599
not just quality, because again there's
great quality stuff that is half an hour,

969
00:59:31,719 --> 00:59:36,920
but I don't think star like and
Or was just two years ago and

970
00:59:37,079 --> 00:59:39,360
people hail that as some people put
that as like the best Star Wars stuff

971
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,679
ever. So that's where it's tough
for me to be like, hey,

972
00:59:43,079 --> 00:59:46,320
if everything since like Rise of Skywalker
fucking sucked, Like the same year we

973
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:50,920
got Rise of Skywalker, you got
Mandalorian season one and then man Lurian season

974
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:52,360
two, which people loved even more, right, and same thing now.

975
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:57,480
So for me, I don't think
it's like it's just more like, I

976
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,480
don't want to say it's a luck
based thing. But there is a point

977
01:00:00,559 --> 01:00:04,119
to it because two years ago we
got and Or and that was great,

978
01:00:04,199 --> 01:00:06,280
and I don't think anyone would have
been like, oh man, do we

979
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,000
need and Or to fail so we
can change it? Because what if that

980
01:00:08,159 --> 01:00:10,480
was the case. And obviously they've
already done season two, right, but

981
01:00:10,519 --> 01:00:14,440
what if it was a case where
you know, yeah, Acolyte sucked,

982
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:16,760
so we're gonna not do and or
season two. Either we're gonna stop doing

983
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:20,079
everything and you go, oh,
but I really love and Or. So

984
01:00:20,119 --> 01:00:22,239
that's why I don't think it's like
a it's a case by case basis and

985
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,880
not a whole thing, not one. I don't think it failing is gonna

986
01:00:27,079 --> 01:00:30,119
make all the other projects good.
You know, I get that sentiment of,

987
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:36,239
oh, if they're not supported,
if they're reviewing poorly, it will

988
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:38,519
turned around. But at the same
time, this is where I think people

989
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:45,440
that hurt the brand a lot,
because even let's say let's say there was

990
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:49,480
you let's say it was seventy percent. Let's say it's all turned right,

991
01:00:49,519 --> 01:00:52,320
and let's say there was thirty percent
of Stars fans that are positive about Star

992
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:57,119
Wars overall, and then you have
that seventy five percent or the seventy percent.

993
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,639
The problem is there's at least thirty
five that percent that even if they

994
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:04,840
genuinely don't liked episodes, they talk
about things being woke, they talk about

995
01:01:05,239 --> 01:01:07,239
female led, they talk about their
doing Red Eye thumbnails and stuff like that.

996
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:13,719
So right away that negative bass it
just gets looked at as kind of

997
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,400
idiotic and they won't take it seriously. So it's like if it was a

998
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:21,320
bunch of well mannered people just tuning
out and saying, I don't like this,

999
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,360
this isn't great Star Wars. But
when everything is hyper bulk, when

1000
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:27,360
everything this has destroyed Stars this is
the worst thing on TV. Yea da

1001
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,800
da da da, that's where they
just drowned that out. And I don't

1002
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:32,400
think they'll turn away. I think
it all comes down to numbers. Then

1003
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:36,519
if people are watching it, even
if the people that hate the show watch

1004
01:01:36,599 --> 01:01:38,079
it, then they're happy to do
it, you know. And that's where

1005
01:01:38,119 --> 01:01:42,159
I think with it not being and
I think that's the thing with Marvel.

1006
01:01:42,599 --> 01:01:45,800
There is of course that crowd,
they'll go woke, go broke it,

1007
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:49,159
da da, But I don't think
it's as big as Star Wars yet.

1008
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,400
I think with Marvel there's just a
genuine they can feel the fan base has

1009
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,199
been let down by the products as
of late, and we got to make

1010
01:01:54,239 --> 01:01:58,280
a change. And that's what Figgy's
doing with Star Wars. It's so tough

1011
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:04,039
to conflate the who's actually disappointed and
who's just decided they're gonna be mad.

1012
01:02:04,079 --> 01:02:07,159
No matter what, because again,
like we talk about it's an elephone room,

1013
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:09,920
this fucking show had the audience score
and run to mails like thirty percent

1014
01:02:10,119 --> 01:02:14,519
before it had even aired. Okay, I'm sure a couple of those sauce

1015
01:02:14,599 --> 01:02:16,599
screener at the theaters. I'm sure
a couple of those are critics that got

1016
01:02:16,639 --> 01:02:21,599
a copy, but like thousands of
reviews of just giving it a one out

1017
01:02:21,639 --> 01:02:24,639
of whatever before it's aired. That's
where right away Lucasfilm will go look at

1018
01:02:24,679 --> 01:02:27,360
that and go like, oh,
it's just a bunch of haters, like

1019
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:30,760
people that are irrational, so we
can't really judge it. Let's see who

1020
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:36,599
watches it, you know. So
that thing for me is like it there's

1021
01:02:36,679 --> 01:02:40,559
too much conflation there between people that
genuinely are disappointed to people that are just

1022
01:02:40,639 --> 01:02:45,800
trying to get clicks or they're kind
of basement dweller type of people that just

1023
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:46,719
like, I don't know, go
out and get some sun. But I'm

1024
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:51,320
not sure to do you have anything? Do you think like Star Wars has

1025
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,159
to fail for them to turn around, or do you think it's like me

1026
01:02:53,199 --> 01:02:57,039
where it's just kind of we're just
in a case by case basis now where

1027
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,239
like I don't know if you can
go on a run where everything Star Wars

1028
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:04,840
is gonna be great again, because
like I don't know, like I don't

1029
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,519
know if that ever happened. Even
back in the eighties, Return of the

1030
01:03:07,599 --> 01:03:10,800
Jedi was hailed as like this,
like, oh, that was the lesser

1031
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:14,280
of the three, and hell,
it's not a disappointment, but just like,

1032
01:03:14,559 --> 01:03:16,440
oh, it's clearly down there.
So I don't think there's other lower

1033
01:03:16,519 --> 01:03:22,000
rings any franchise that had like a
fucking perfect run, you know. Yeah,

1034
01:03:22,159 --> 01:03:24,320
No, you make a good point, And for the idea that this

1035
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:30,639
needs to fail to just be successful
again, I don't think we live in

1036
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:35,400
an age for that anymore. I
think the age that we live in is

1037
01:03:35,519 --> 01:03:43,639
shareholders and results and that sort of
stuff. I think you're you're you're dealing

1038
01:03:43,679 --> 01:03:45,639
with a lot of fans, and
a lot of fans are passionate, angry

1039
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:51,360
so forth about these these ips.
And you have to understand too, it's

1040
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:53,559
not the fans that are necessarily calling
the shots. And fans can have impact,

1041
01:03:53,639 --> 01:03:59,000
for sure, they can do a
survey, they can submit their feedback

1042
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:02,400
whatever. But I think you need
to understand that unless you have someone who's

1043
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:06,639
who is a fan and is really
batting for the fans. In that high

1044
01:04:06,719 --> 01:04:12,039
ranking position at these companies, you're
not gonna be necessarily getting the stuff that

1045
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:15,760
you want, because you're gonna be
getting a group of people in business suits

1046
01:04:16,079 --> 01:04:19,000
looking how to milk something, how
to make money. They don't care.

1047
01:04:19,199 --> 01:04:23,920
They're not going home and binge watching
all the Star Wars movies, all the

1048
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:29,440
Jurassic Park movies. They don't care. They want someone to be hired write

1049
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:31,719
them a story, and then they
don't even want to read the script.

1050
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:35,960
Probably And again I'm just I'm not
saying no go back. I think most

1051
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:39,920
of them don't even care to read
the script. I think they want to

1052
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:44,639
see just like bullet notoes, bullet
points on a on a projector they want

1053
01:04:44,679 --> 01:04:48,239
to hear people's projections and see statistics
and then see the statistics based on the

1054
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:51,519
past and just say, okay,
what are what are you guys guaranteeing here

1055
01:04:51,599 --> 01:04:56,159
for results and for income for earnings
in this fourth quarter. And that's what

1056
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:59,920
they're gonna be like, Okay,
here's your check for five hundred thousand dollars.

1057
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,599
There's there. You go make your
project, and I want to get

1058
01:05:02,719 --> 01:05:05,800
guarantee my revenue but in return.
And that's all we talked about too.

1059
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:09,960
Whatever people want to say. If
you look at the Star Wars movies and

1060
01:05:10,039 --> 01:05:13,639
why Cathy wasn't gone or anything like
that, they made four of them and

1061
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:16,360
three of them made over billion dollars. That's a pretty good track record,

1062
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,679
whatever you feel those movies, and
when like you're talking about it, when

1063
01:05:18,679 --> 01:05:21,840
you're just looking at statistics, why
would you get rid of that person that

1064
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:27,679
has helped produce three and that first
movie made two billion dollars. So really

1065
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,119
you could say, oh, Soul, I'm not making a billion. Force

1066
01:05:30,199 --> 01:05:31,599
Wakens like made up for it because
it made two billions. So it's like

1067
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:35,519
between four movies, you made four
billion dollars. So that's where it's like,

1068
01:05:36,239 --> 01:05:39,679
That's what I always tell people.
The only way you can change and

1069
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:43,039
that's why even wrestling that happened another
company start is you just don't got to

1070
01:05:43,119 --> 01:05:45,559
watch. You don't tweet about it, you don't talk about it. You

1071
01:05:45,679 --> 01:05:47,599
just it's no longer a thing anymore
for you, because it doesn't matter if

1072
01:05:47,599 --> 01:05:51,679
you're hate watching your number, you
go that statistic of well people are watching,

1073
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,840
and Eddie, I get it when
you say the woke thing is is

1074
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:59,480
in case of more about them not
hiring the best resrectors for some. But

1075
01:05:59,639 --> 01:06:02,880
you can search YouTube and see how
many fucking things are just woke, and

1076
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:06,599
it's Daisy Ridley on a male's body, or it's Kathleen Kennedy with the fucking

1077
01:06:06,639 --> 01:06:10,360
red eyes. So for every person
that is trying to be like I just

1078
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,039
want the best writers, that is
true, and I agree with that,

1079
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,960
but there is some person like,
oh my god, they did this the

1080
01:06:15,119 --> 01:06:18,400
forces female Da da da. So
that's where it's just like I can't get

1081
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:23,519
on board because and those are the
people that really are I to me,

1082
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:29,199
I don't know, that's up to
you. I think Sony Marvel is awful.

1083
01:06:29,599 --> 01:06:32,480
I've never not once logged onto Rawn
Tomatoes before I saw the movie and

1084
01:06:32,559 --> 01:06:35,400
gave it a one out of ten. And that's where I believe the people

1085
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:39,280
when it's like on Rawn to males, the audience score bringing it down to

1086
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:43,599
like a rowden, those aren't the
well we just want good writers. No,

1087
01:06:44,119 --> 01:06:45,960
like those people will just tune out
and stop watching me, like,

1088
01:06:46,039 --> 01:06:49,760
man, this sucks and it's disappointing. Those people that are creating the narrative

1089
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:53,840
are the more you know, go
woke, get broke, crowd and when

1090
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,440
something fails, oh, look we
told you. But then when something does

1091
01:06:56,519 --> 01:06:59,679
really well, all they're quiet about
that, right, So who knows?

1092
01:07:00,079 --> 01:07:05,199
I don't know. I So we
cover the Jedi. Yeah, we cover

1093
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:11,400
poor Osha. She had the Jedi
handbook, look like that got burned and

1094
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:15,480
stuff like that. Right, I'm
trying to think there's anything else we didn't

1095
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:20,039
cover as far as Jedi. Yeah, or sorry, all the witches are

1096
01:07:20,119 --> 01:07:24,880
dead. I really was that character's
name? Yeah? So she was played

1097
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,960
by Jodie Turner Smith, who I
guess I've heard great things about, but

1098
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,400
I haven't seen her in anything.
She played mother and Nisa. I would

1099
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:34,360
have liked the other mother to get
a few more again about like screen time

1100
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:38,679
and runtime, a few more moments, because it felt like she's like,

1101
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:41,599
oh, I gave birth to them, but I didn't really feel like that.

1102
01:07:41,719 --> 01:07:44,559
It felt like she was the stepmother
in this situation, like they were

1103
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:48,079
so close with the other mother.
So again, that's where I would have

1104
01:07:48,199 --> 01:07:55,679
loved more connection with that other mother
even god what is uh? Oh?

1105
01:07:55,800 --> 01:08:00,880
She right? It felt like she
did not care about that other mother at

1106
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,840
all. It felt like they had
zero connection. So that's something where I

1107
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:08,039
go, Yeah, I could have
used a bit more on that. The

1108
01:08:08,119 --> 01:08:11,280
Jedi presents were all good again,
sold delivers. I think he's doing really

1109
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:15,960
well. But yeah, anything else
specifically that we haven't touched upon yet.

1110
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:17,199
And then I have a theory I'm
gonna hit you with. But well,

1111
01:08:17,239 --> 01:08:26,479
I like theories we haven't touched upon. What is this? What I gotta

1112
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:29,159
go, Eddie, What does this
mean? People you don't like to write

1113
01:08:29,159 --> 01:08:33,199
about some things? Yes, that
is true, that's the most like,

1114
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:38,239
that's true. But like the idea
of when you're saying, oh, it's

1115
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:41,640
that's not what I was going against. You said earlier that the woke thing

1116
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:45,520
is in is in the case of
the best writers, best rectors, I'm

1117
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,359
saying that can be true. But
the same wing as a reverse you is

1118
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:50,600
a sense of that's not all of
them, you know, and like,

1119
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:55,920
yeah, there's tons of people I
don't like that are gonna make points that

1120
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,720
I agree with, you know,
So that doesn't really make much sense.

1121
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:00,319
That's just like a general like,
oh, some movies are good, some

1122
01:09:00,399 --> 01:09:04,560
movies are bad, I would hope, so, yes, yes, Derek,

1123
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:08,560
I used to comment here, I
think one of the mothers is figure

1124
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:13,560
in the show. I don't know
if necessarily i'd say the master, but

1125
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:16,359
I think you have a chance of
seeing the woman that carried them and gave

1126
01:09:16,399 --> 01:09:19,680
birth to the to the twins again. I have to go back and visit

1127
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:23,079
that scene when they were all dead
on the ground. I don't remember seeing

1128
01:09:23,119 --> 01:09:28,159
her body there, but I do
feel like we could see that actress that

1129
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:33,079
Zabrac come back and maybe again,
maybe she helped May and maybe she was

1130
01:09:33,119 --> 01:09:35,920
like May, I got I got
a guy that I know, and he's

1131
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:40,720
gonna take you away and he's gonna
train you. Yeah, Darth Maul.

1132
01:09:43,119 --> 01:09:45,359
So yeah, that's that's what I
feel. I think it's the main mother

1133
01:09:46,159 --> 01:09:49,359
I I really do, because Mama, I think she's alive. Well,

1134
01:09:49,399 --> 01:09:53,399
her name's mother Nissa. I'm not
gonna call her mama, Mama they call

1135
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:57,479
her on the show. I've never
called my mom mama, but that's fine

1136
01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:01,640
if you do so for me.
I'd have to look back. And maybe

1137
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:04,560
that was a shot, but I
swear in the trailer we saw that shot

1138
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:10,079
of and I go, we saw
a shot of somebody's eyes going black.

1139
01:10:10,199 --> 01:10:14,720
Now could have been this exact shot
from that? What was that the one

1140
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:16,680
of the trailers that they're showing.
Yeah, okay, so I thought it

1141
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:20,079
was somewhere else. I just thought
that that could make sense. As far

1142
01:10:20,159 --> 01:10:25,560
as it has, I feel like
it has to be one of them,

1143
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:28,840
right the other thor I saw people
thrown around last week that was the fucking

1144
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:32,800
Bartender, and I was like,
no fucking way, I can see there's

1145
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:36,119
something where I would not want that
because I like the Bartender. It's like

1146
01:10:36,199 --> 01:10:40,800
this kind of fun, shady,
comedic guy. If he's some like Sith

1147
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:44,079
in disguise, that's like like playing
a character. I'm like, oh no,

1148
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:49,079
I really don't want that. So
I think that I think that it's

1149
01:10:49,119 --> 01:10:51,800
gonna be the main Yeah, it's
gonna be Mama. And just because she's

1150
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:55,960
a bigger actress than a lot of
the other ones. On IMDb, she's

1151
01:10:56,000 --> 01:11:00,520
also listed for six episodes, so
I think there's a thread right there.

1152
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:04,359
And after this episode of her performance, I really enjoyed it, So I

1153
01:11:04,399 --> 01:11:10,279
would like to see more of that. So and especially because they did the

1154
01:11:10,399 --> 01:11:15,760
whole who Taylor did, they say
that was an inspiration for the villain.

1155
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:20,039
Oh wasn't it Darth Treya you were
talking about and Kira. Right, and

1156
01:11:20,159 --> 01:11:25,239
when you meet Kira at first seems
like a nice, lovely Jedi that's just

1157
01:11:25,319 --> 01:11:30,279
gonna help you out. Right.
This mother, she is like, she

1158
01:11:31,359 --> 01:11:34,000
is not as strong as the witches, I mean as far as strong will

1159
01:11:34,039 --> 01:11:38,319
that the kids have to do this. She literally goes to the girl saying,

1160
01:11:38,399 --> 01:11:40,520
oh, or that you know,
Osha, do you want to be

1161
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:43,239
a Jedi? Whatever your life,
you know that thread you have to pull,

1162
01:11:43,319 --> 01:11:45,720
you have to do it. She's
almost overly understanding that. I think

1163
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:49,720
in the moment she genuinely felt that
way. But imagine if Taylor, you

1164
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:53,880
were like your kid for some reasons, like Matilda, they want to go

1165
01:11:54,119 --> 01:11:56,560
off and you're like, okay,
kid, you go. You go with

1166
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:59,159
these people, go live your dream. And they get a little Seteam in

1167
01:11:59,199 --> 01:12:00,720
the car, they pack her away
and they drive away, and then those

1168
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:06,079
people decide to kill you. I
was completely wrong about my feelings on letting

1169
01:12:06,119 --> 01:12:10,079
these people watch my daughter. That's
why I could feel how she feels is

1170
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:14,960
I was so fine with or I
was accepted. My daughter wants to do

1171
01:12:15,039 --> 01:12:16,359
just wants to be a Jedi.
I'm not gonna push her to go my

1172
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:19,279
way. Go live your life,
even there's a great scene where she says,

1173
01:12:19,279 --> 01:12:21,720
I'm never gonna see you again,
and they hug and she kiss her

1174
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:25,760
and she's got and she's crying,
not like a super sad but just like

1175
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,760
a tears falling Jody Turner Smith like
I said, I'm gonna go watch more

1176
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:31,520
stuff because I thought she was great. But I think there's a great story

1177
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:35,680
thereof she's willing to let the Jedi
teach her daughter and if they for some

1178
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:41,039
reason turn on her or people,
man, you would definitely feel like you

1179
01:12:41,199 --> 01:12:44,920
misread that situation. So I'm saying
it's gonna be her and I'm actually kind

1180
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:46,880
of hoping it's gonna be HER's.
That's my pick right now. That's my

1181
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:50,439
prediction. That would be pretty I
mean, the motivations are definitely clear,

1182
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:55,159
so I think you guys got some
justification there. There's a few other more

1183
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:59,439
things in the trailer. I feel
like these three episodes have really taken off

1184
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:01,640
most of the scenes that we've seen
in these good so far, which is

1185
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:05,560
very That's why I think next week
we're getting the whole those Jedi getting force

1186
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:09,760
pushed and killed because I get it, you know. I mean, there's

1187
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:13,359
there's a scene too. On that
planet where the Master pops up and force

1188
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:16,159
pushes all the Jedi, May is
pulling out her throwing knife and is like

1189
01:13:16,199 --> 01:13:20,800
about to kill that young I think
Daphney Keane's character that's like a knife.

1190
01:13:21,239 --> 01:13:26,079
Okay, that's the exact same backdrop
and settings when the Master attacks all of

1191
01:13:26,119 --> 01:13:29,399
them. So yeah, and again
I'm thinking that's the Wookies home because Wooded

1192
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:31,560
it's shadowed, so it's gonna be
They're gonna get the Wookies home in the

1193
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:34,479
morning and then night time is gonna
go down and then even though it's a

1194
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:38,239
lot of Jedi there, So that's
my only thing of why are all these

1195
01:13:38,319 --> 01:13:43,279
Jedi at that Wookies planet? But
I don't know. I mean here,

1196
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:45,680
I'm gonna I'm gonna sure screen here
because now I'm kind of curious. So

1197
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:47,800
I mean, look, I mean, look at how the a Jedi we

1198
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:51,600
got here? Is this a flashback? Is that supposed to be young Ohshi

1199
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:58,119
there? Here? I mean it's
definitely that mother. I think that's Salt

1200
01:13:58,159 --> 01:14:00,760
Front. But man, that motherfucker
looks like kai on Gin up there,

1201
01:14:00,359 --> 01:14:04,279
like because he always have his like
Kate like that. Yeah, like it

1202
01:14:04,399 --> 01:14:09,119
could be I guess Young Oshi up
there, so there could be. So

1203
01:14:09,239 --> 01:14:13,079
do you think next week, because
this episode ended with us on Young May

1204
01:14:13,119 --> 01:14:16,760
looking in at the tree, do
you think next week is another flashback episode

1205
01:14:17,319 --> 01:14:20,159
at all? Or do you think
it's gonna be fully back to present day?

1206
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:24,479
I think we'll get another flashback,
And I said that again, we

1207
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:28,000
got some we got a ship full
episode mix or just I think it'll I

1208
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,319
think it'll be a mix. I
think it'll be a mix. We got

1209
01:14:30,359 --> 01:14:32,359
a ship chase sequence here too that
we gotta deal with. But then also

1210
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:39,640
there was a scene here that I
don't remember seeing in this episode. Just

1211
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:45,199
also, I do like last week
we were talking about why uh May didn't

1212
01:14:45,199 --> 01:14:47,560
have a lightsaber or anything like that, which is great because she wasn't trained

1213
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:50,720
to be like a Jedi or sith
As right now, she was just somebody

1214
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:55,079
that had the force, right So
I like that's a good explanation right now.

1215
01:14:55,119 --> 01:14:57,920
And again we still know why she's
like reaching for the lightsaber, but

1216
01:14:58,239 --> 01:15:01,079
I am ready to see that Ocha
May the oh she May fight pop off.

1217
01:15:01,239 --> 01:15:04,560
So was this scene here in the
in the episode? I can't remember

1218
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:10,840
where she's thinking through the fire because
this is different right, I can't remember

1219
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:14,880
her running through the fire because all
we saw was Young May popping up at

1220
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:17,800
the tree, and I'm thinking,
maybe this is this is another flashback showing

1221
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:20,520
May on her escape. Right,
you do have to remember the last week.

1222
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:25,000
Remember we got to see Young May
in uh oh she's mind, So

1223
01:15:25,079 --> 01:15:28,319
there could be some chream sequence going
on here, right, Yeah, yeah,

1224
01:15:28,359 --> 01:15:30,840
which the same way Derek brought up, which I've seen some people throw

1225
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:34,720
out that put out that theory before
of like the uh the Tyler Durdon like

1226
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:40,520
is May or the things in her
mind? Like are they one? I

1227
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:44,960
don't know. I I wouldn't say
no, because they did say like,

1228
01:15:45,039 --> 01:15:47,920
hey, n it's an old republic, like there are like some inspirations were

1229
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:51,319
there, And that to me would
be a very kind of Darth revn thing

1230
01:15:51,359 --> 01:15:55,039
to do. Right of you think
your sister's alive or something like that,

1231
01:15:55,119 --> 01:15:58,640
but it's you forced rejecting it to
I don't think they'll go that route,

1232
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:01,560
but I'm not completely writing off that
she's had some sort of split personality or

1233
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:09,159
something like that. So yeah,
that's possible. John Blanchard says or Blanchard

1234
01:16:09,199 --> 01:16:12,520
Story says, could Darth character be
using the twins to get a Jedi.

1235
01:16:14,319 --> 01:16:16,079
I don't know if they need to
use them because right now they've already popped

1236
01:16:16,119 --> 01:16:19,640
two jets. Yeah, getting the
Jedi right, and she's about to get

1237
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:24,279
that. That Wookie's going down.
I'm telling you the Wookie's done yet.

1238
01:16:24,319 --> 01:16:27,479
Yeah, Soul, he might last
to the season, but maybe he won't.

1239
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:30,359
Who knows, because he probably he
had to go to Squid Game season

1240
01:16:30,399 --> 01:16:33,439
two. So I so like,
I think it is just like, I

1241
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:39,359
don't think they're using the but I
guess because how I guess maybe you could

1242
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:42,920
just be using oh she to like
get them in a certain position. So

1243
01:16:43,159 --> 01:16:45,680
maybe. But again, I think
it's just if it's a dark character,

1244
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:47,039
it is that one we've met,
right, I don't think there's like another

1245
01:16:47,239 --> 01:16:50,840
character on top of that. I
think it is it's whatever they're gonna name

1246
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:57,920
that. So let's see here anything
else, And same thing with chat anybody.

1247
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:00,720
We're round down, So if there's
any question, theories, anything,

1248
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:03,359
throw them out now before we come
down to the end here. But I'm

1249
01:17:03,399 --> 01:17:08,640
trying to think, Yeah, we
ended on May. She was looking mad.

1250
01:17:09,119 --> 01:17:12,079
She survived that big fall, which
I was kind of surprised. Soulden

1251
01:17:12,119 --> 01:17:14,479
trying to just use his force to
catch them. He decided to go the

1252
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:16,279
route of using his hands, which
I feel like is a Jedi. Well.

1253
01:17:16,279 --> 01:17:18,800
I I was telling Madison, like
the way he was hold on to

1254
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:21,600
Oshi, you'd think he was holding
on to like two full grown men.

1255
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:26,680
Also, he was like, I
can't pull you up there, too heavy.

1256
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:31,000
Soul's going to spend a bit more
time in the training facilities. Imagine

1257
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:34,560
even just dropped her and that would
be it. But yeah, so we'll

1258
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:39,000
have to see what happens there,
and again we'll have to see if Soul

1259
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:44,720
if there's something suspicious with him that
I guess. That's why I'm still enjoying

1260
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:47,000
the show because as of right now, I got a lot of questions and

1261
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:49,640
I'm excited to have them answered.
Now. That's what it comes down to,

1262
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:53,039
is how do they answer them and
how they do them right? Because

1263
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:56,079
for me, that can and stuff
everything we talked about, like why some

1264
01:17:56,159 --> 01:17:58,800
people might not like it, that
stuff has not affected me the same way.

1265
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:00,640
And if it is for us or
anything like, or it's for you

1266
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:03,680
or anybody, you know, different
strokes for different folks, right, that's

1267
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:06,600
everybody. But for me, I'm
still intrigued by the mystery, and I

1268
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:11,520
like that we have multiple mysteries.
What did happen all these witches? Who

1269
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:14,800
is the dark character? How are
these twins going to come together? What

1270
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:16,600
is some of the fault that happened
with? Oh? She is training?

1271
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:21,439
So there's like three to four things
already where it's like okay, where you

1272
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:24,800
know, where are we going?
And I'm excited to see what happened?

1273
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:28,319
So Derek says, why does this
show look weird? Looks like the budgets

1274
01:18:28,319 --> 01:18:30,359
of the House Dragon, but it
feels like the show that would fall Arrow

1275
01:18:30,399 --> 01:18:33,560
on CW. I've seen the CW
comparisons. I don't think it's as bad

1276
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:38,199
as that is something that watched Arrow
and the Flash. I think there are

1277
01:18:38,399 --> 01:18:40,760
times I definitely granted, yeah,
I could see it, but I think

1278
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:46,439
overall it still looks like a higher
production budget than what the CW does.

1279
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:50,560
So and with the budget, I
really don't know how those budgets works,

1280
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:54,960
because we've talked aboutly before, like
sending Secret Invasion was like one sixteen,

1281
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,439
We're like, where does that money
go? At least with that, we're

1282
01:18:57,479 --> 01:18:59,920
like, well, Sam Jackson's in
the show, so maybe he got like

1283
01:19:00,119 --> 01:19:03,920
one fifty. But like with these
there's not any huge actors actresses in here.

1284
01:19:04,039 --> 01:19:09,079
But I'm not sure if it's overspending
on shooting. I'm not sure if

1285
01:19:09,079 --> 01:19:13,159
it's rewrite. So I will say
that there's some I think even last week

1286
01:19:13,199 --> 01:19:15,680
we had some shots that were cool. But I do think overall it's not

1287
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:17,920
like a it's not like and or
it's not like a beautiful looking show,

1288
01:19:18,039 --> 01:19:20,920
right, And I think, yeah, both Mando and Obi Wan have the

1289
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:25,119
same thing where they have moments that
look great, but then overall the show

1290
01:19:25,199 --> 01:19:29,359
can look cheap. So I think
that's just a tough thing with the with

1291
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:31,600
the Star Wars show of just like
the rate that they're I don't know,

1292
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:34,199
because this one took a while.
I really don't know, And maybe it

1293
01:19:34,199 --> 01:19:38,079
could just be that. And I'm
not trying to like because I don't want

1294
01:19:38,079 --> 01:19:39,840
to go after the kid actors.
I don't want to have to go to

1295
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:42,079
the crew. But it could just
be that, Hey, the team or

1296
01:19:42,119 --> 01:19:45,079
person they have behind the sticks,
it is just like it's just not the

1297
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:47,399
greatest or they don't got the greatest
vision for what they wanted to look like.

1298
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:49,359
Right, So yeah, I don't
know. How do you feel with

1299
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:51,800
the look of the show right now. I mean, I can definitely see

1300
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:57,239
that there's something questionable going on it
when you look at those other shows like,

1301
01:19:57,319 --> 01:20:01,039
yeah, How's a Dragon and Showgun
and why not, Like there's the

1302
01:20:01,119 --> 01:20:05,479
difference is i'd say night and Day. So yeah, I also House a

1303
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:10,720
Dragon, though again those are lots
of like physical sets, and even then

1304
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:14,119
I'm rewatching House the Dragon. There's
time that Dragon looks fucking fake as shit,

1305
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:16,840
like there's times with a Dragon.
But I think that you're also dealing

1306
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:20,840
with an aesthetic that they're trying to
match. And while the prequels were heavily

1307
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:25,479
cgi, they were very bright and
vibrant, and this feels like it's bright

1308
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:29,760
and vibrant, but it's been simmered
down a little bit with this dark Uh.

1309
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:32,279
I don't want to say a filter, but they're darkening it. They've

1310
01:20:32,319 --> 01:20:39,560
taken that bright, vibrant sea that
is the Prequels and they're they're like desaturating

1311
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:43,520
it and trying to make it a
little bit more darker. So I think

1312
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:46,279
that maybe they're just trying to capitalize
and emphasize on something that maybe that we're

1313
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:51,319
familiar with. But it does that
that vibrancy that that CGI ask it does

1314
01:20:51,399 --> 01:20:56,359
feel very c W and I it's
just one of those things that blows my

1315
01:20:56,479 --> 01:21:00,039
mind where you look at CGI from
what like ten fifteen years ago, no,

1316
01:21:00,239 --> 01:21:03,359
not even like early two thousands with
piots of the Caribbean, it's like,

1317
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:09,680
what the fuck, Like now that's
what happened. It's it's these people

1318
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:14,399
are like put under because many FX
people talk about they're just put under scrutiny

1319
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:16,680
of getting lack of time. And
also this is a big thing of the

1320
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:20,079
Marvel stuff is like and I'm sure
with the Star Wars and hopefully that time

1321
01:21:20,119 --> 01:21:24,560
with DC is like the changing of
stuff too, right, you got a

1322
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:26,239
small amount of time. It's like, oh, well, actually want to

1323
01:21:26,239 --> 01:21:29,399
look like this or do this.
And see that's the guys in suits that

1324
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:32,319
these board meetings that are calling the
shots right, and it's just because they

1325
01:21:32,399 --> 01:21:35,199
just need to hit a quota.
They just need some big show for the

1326
01:21:35,239 --> 01:21:40,279
summer. They need some big movie
like look way like again, there's multiple

1327
01:21:40,319 --> 01:21:45,640
issues, but remember Justice League and
Superman and Henry Cavill's mustache like the original

1328
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:47,359
one and lots of issues with that
movie. But then one of the things

1329
01:21:47,399 --> 01:21:49,479
that came up was, Well,
the reason they wanted to for sure to

1330
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:54,159
be on November is because certain execs
would get certain bonuses. Right, I'm

1331
01:21:54,159 --> 01:21:57,159
not saying that happens with everything,
but there I think this is different,

1332
01:21:58,119 --> 01:22:00,439
different time crunches. Unfortunately, now
he's then a lot more pressure on these

1333
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:03,920
studios, so hopefully it can look
better. But let me let me ask

1334
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:09,079
you this, and I feel like
I feel like there are individuals and maybe

1335
01:22:09,119 --> 01:22:12,800
this is a very bold question.
What's the wrong? Oh? Just did

1336
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:15,640
you? I thought you might have
heard the loud motorcycle Usually sometimes you hear

1337
01:22:15,079 --> 01:22:21,319
here. Do you think that the
urgency of putting this show out now and

1338
01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:30,640
timing it with this month is because
they want to capitalize on I guess just

1339
01:22:30,119 --> 01:22:32,680
people that can Yeah, what do
they want to capitalize on? Well,

1340
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:36,039
it's Pride Month. I feel like
this show if you look at a lot

1341
01:22:36,079 --> 01:22:39,479
of the marketing and a lot of
the actors and the people that I'm involved

1342
01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:41,720
with the show, and how they've
been just like handling the interviews and what

1343
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:45,159
they've been saying, and now obviously
they've they've showcased it in this episode.

1344
01:22:45,239 --> 01:22:48,000
Now to the relationship between two female
characters, do you. I feel like

1345
01:22:48,159 --> 01:22:51,119
it's probably not a coincidence that they're
timing it. I mean, Disney,

1346
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:56,600
and I feel like Star Wars is
probably I mean, it's guys in suits.

1347
01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:59,279
They're looking like, hey, how
can we like maximize our profits?

1348
01:22:59,319 --> 01:23:02,600
And I hate to say that you're
looking at something that is like that is

1349
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:08,760
culturally impacting and growing and expanding,
but it is also looked at from a

1350
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:13,159
financial standpoint. Everything is in Hollywood
and whatnot, there is some always some

1351
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:16,800
inkling of financial benefit that people are
looking for. Me even Marvel does that,

1352
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:20,720
Like when they put Black Panther in
February for like the Black History Month.

1353
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:24,840
At the same time, there's like
a celebration aspect. I think there's

1354
01:23:25,039 --> 01:23:27,199
maybe a little bit to that.
The only reason I push back is just

1355
01:23:27,279 --> 01:23:30,239
that none of it's in the marketing, you know. It's like, yeah,

1356
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:32,479
like they're not Like it'd be different
if the whole show was like,

1357
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:36,199
this is Star Wars for gay people, and like they're not doing that.

1358
01:23:36,359 --> 01:23:40,279
Like I would love to see that
because I would love just to see just

1359
01:23:40,359 --> 01:23:44,279
the Internet a lot of people be
mad. I would just love to see

1360
01:23:44,359 --> 01:23:46,920
that, just see people get mad
for no reason whatsoever. But there's a

1361
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:50,319
little bit that. I think it's
also just that it's just churn and because

1362
01:23:51,319 --> 01:23:56,640
what do we have other than animation. We don't have a Marble show until

1363
01:23:56,680 --> 01:24:00,239
Agatha, Right, that's the fall, right and that, Yeah that's ship

1364
01:24:00,319 --> 01:24:03,520
that's like September row, you know, but yeah, that's like September October

1365
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:06,399
because DAREDEVI will happen and remember that, I all go pushback. So I

1366
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:10,199
think that's just it. Skeleton Crew
is like, who knows what the fuck's

1367
01:24:10,279 --> 01:24:12,840
going on with that? You know, Like that's like a show that's been

1368
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:15,079
so I think, sure, there's
a little bit of that, but I

1369
01:24:15,119 --> 01:24:17,840
think it's just they don't have a
big show right now Agatha, and I

1370
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:20,399
don't think Agatha is gonna be a
big show for them, So they got

1371
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:24,960
that in September. I don't even
know Skelton Crew will be that, Mando's

1372
01:24:25,079 --> 01:24:29,840
becoming a movie a Soca season two
is in development. That's like, what's

1373
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:32,560
what's the next even Star Wars show
other than Asca season two and Skeleton Crew,

1374
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:35,039
which now its years ago. We
have nothing on the docket right now

1375
01:24:35,119 --> 01:24:40,439
for shows. Yeah, nothing that
I can think of. I guess my

1376
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:44,479
follow up to that is then if
they were, because this goes hand and

1377
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:47,399
hand with them. Okay, Like
we have these we have this kind of

1378
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:50,520
like relationship between these female characters,
and we want to time that with Pride

1379
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:55,399
months. Now, We're gonna put
pressure on our effects team and our and

1380
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:59,239
our whole crew working on this project
because we want to We want to time

1381
01:24:59,279 --> 01:25:01,680
it so we can drop boom two
episodes and then another episode, like we

1382
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:04,199
want to just pump it out,
so it's all throughout the month of June.

1383
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:08,079
And I feel like, okay,
well, then that's these investors and

1384
01:25:08,159 --> 01:25:14,800
these suits trying to maximize their profits
probably here and try to time it with

1385
01:25:15,359 --> 01:25:17,880
landing in Pride month and putting pressure
on this development team when really, you

1386
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:21,840
said it here, what do we
have nothing really until the fall? Well,

1387
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:25,760
there's nothing wrong with putting out and
creating that more awareness and pride.

1388
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:28,319
I think that's great, sure,
but I also think that too, you're

1389
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:32,840
straining this effects team again by forcing
them to meet these deadlines unless it was

1390
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:38,319
already finished and this is the final
result. Sure would literally just be that

1391
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:41,039
hey, this crew like they weren't
up to stuff, Like it wasn't a

1392
01:25:41,079 --> 01:25:45,239
good totally totally and I guess what
I'm trying to get is here that you

1393
01:25:45,279 --> 01:25:48,720
shouldn't. These suits will make the
calls for whatever financially benefits them. But

1394
01:25:49,279 --> 01:25:53,439
the fact that there's nothing coming out
till the fall, it sucks that.

1395
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:58,800
Hey, maybe one more month would
have done a miracle job for this this

1396
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:01,399
show and refined it looking like CW
quality. Maybe it would have made it

1397
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:04,560
feel a little bit more fine toune
and it just kind of like tweaks certain

1398
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:08,680
things. I don't know. We
had this show announced years ago, and

1399
01:26:09,159 --> 01:26:15,479
it's just it it is kind of
flabbergasting twenty twenty, yeah, four years

1400
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:17,560
ago, and the fact that some
things aren't necessarily super refined. Yeah,

1401
01:26:18,239 --> 01:26:23,159
Obi says, two twins separated and
finally and I'd only kill her father sound

1402
01:26:23,239 --> 01:26:26,920
familiar. I'm not sure? Is
it something else or am I missing it?

1403
01:26:27,079 --> 01:26:29,560
Like I guess you could say Star
Wars, but like, I don't

1404
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:31,760
think they're gonna get together to kill
their father in this show, Like I

1405
01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:34,640
don't I believe them when they say
there's no father here, you know,

1406
01:26:35,159 --> 01:26:38,880
which to me I felt was like
the Master is he's the father? Yeah,

1407
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:41,479
which I kind of thought was a
tribute to Phantom men as her.

1408
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:44,000
I know some peoplemight go, oh, it's not special about her, literally

1409
01:26:44,039 --> 01:26:47,720
saying there was no father you know, So yeah, well that's it,

1410
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:51,000
I think, right, dare you
got anything else? The score was great.

1411
01:26:51,039 --> 01:26:55,520
I love the music in this.
Yeah, I like. I wish

1412
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:58,439
they hit a bit more on Star
Wars themes. I like it so far.

1413
01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:00,760
I'm not I don't like hate or
anything, but I wish sometimes like

1414
01:27:01,239 --> 01:27:04,359
like you can use the Force team
for not just the main Skywalkers, you

1415
01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:06,800
know, you could throw it in
there, especially when she was like feeling

1416
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:11,119
the lightsaber. I feel like they
had like a few hints to it,

1417
01:27:11,279 --> 01:27:15,520
but nothing there. But the Force
is the father. Oh, I can't

1418
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:18,880
see, so you're doing the whole
the there there's a fucking red line.

1419
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:21,760
I don't think it's in the cha
anymore. Those fucking the father, the

1420
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:26,960
daughter and like that whole shit about
the three of them and then the control

1421
01:27:27,239 --> 01:27:30,000
creation. Oh, I know,
and I that's stupid. That's I will

1422
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:34,199
take medical orients all day over the
fucking the brother, the father and the

1423
01:27:34,279 --> 01:27:38,720
sister. Like that's dumb stuff.
And I do not like I know people

1424
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:42,439
always say like, oh, it's
Clone Wars, like classic stuff but hey,

1425
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:44,399
and that's not for me, that's
the red line. But again,

1426
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:46,439
you know what I do. I've
watched it once. I'm just never gonna

1427
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:48,960
go back and watch those episodes because
I don't enjoy them and I don't like

1428
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:54,319
anytime it's hinted that I don't know, I don't know, and yeah,

1429
01:27:54,359 --> 01:27:57,119
well and then you know it's coming
some failing grades for me. But again

1430
01:27:57,319 --> 01:28:00,840
it's like an destroy Star Wars will
going next and hopefully get that Kotar show

1431
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:05,119
and not Boba fet season two.
You know, so well, we've done

1432
01:28:05,119 --> 01:28:10,039
it. We will be back next
week usually around a similar time to break

1433
01:28:10,079 --> 01:28:14,359
down episode four. We'll talk about
that. If Kirkland is on, we'll

1434
01:28:14,359 --> 01:28:17,119
get his thoughts and yeah, we'll
see what's happening. Thank you to everyone

1435
01:28:17,159 --> 01:28:20,600
in the chat. Lots of lively
discussion debate. For the most part,

1436
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:25,880
everybody you know behaving and that's where
like we always are welcoming different opinions just

1437
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:29,399
as long as no one's being a
straight up asshole or ignorant of other people.

1438
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:31,239
If you're being assholes to other people, I don't really want you.

1439
01:28:31,319 --> 01:28:34,800
Whether it's here in the discord,
we want to just like at the end

1440
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:40,600
of the day, we're talking about
a show with like fake space with space.

1441
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:43,520
Yeah, yeah, like I don't
want to. That's why we don't

1442
01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:45,880
like Dix in the community, because
like you shouldn't get this serious, you

1443
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:48,880
know, And that's where it's been
a fun time. So I don't think

1444
01:28:49,039 --> 01:28:53,640
Taylor, I can finally ask you, was Star Wars destroyed tonight for you?

1445
01:28:54,279 --> 01:28:57,880
No? Star Wars has not destroyed
for me yet either, so it's

1446
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:01,159
not crossing that big red line.
But yeah, ladies and gentlemen, we'll

1447
01:29:01,199 --> 01:29:03,880
be back next week and I promise
you it will not be boring. May

1448
01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:06,439
the Force be with you always.
