WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:05.599 Welcome to Spacing Out with BB and Jason, this week covering Our Flag Means 2 00:00:05.639 --> 00:00:16.199 Death Season two, episode eight. Merman, Yeah, welcome to Spacey Now. 3 00:00:16.480 --> 00:00:20.559 My name is BB and I'm Jason, and we are discussing Our Flag 4 00:00:20.600 --> 00:00:24.559 Means Death one episode at a time, spoiler free, and the series is 5 00:00:24.600 --> 00:00:29.000 available in the streaming service Max formerly known as HBO. And since this is 6 00:00:29.000 --> 00:00:32.359 the series finale, we won't be having a spoiler section at the end because 7 00:00:32.399 --> 00:00:34.920 we have nothing left to spoil. But if you stick around, we do 8 00:00:34.960 --> 00:00:37.600 have a couple of things plans. First, I want to tally up all 9 00:00:37.640 --> 00:00:41.079 the Astral Queen Awards and see who was the winner overall. And then I 10 00:00:41.159 --> 00:00:45.039 thought we could, you know, kind of speculate on what a potential season 11 00:00:45.039 --> 00:00:47.920 three would look like or what we would hope to see in it if it 12 00:00:47.920 --> 00:00:51.200 were to have been made. Yes, and finally we're gonna announce what's next 13 00:00:51.200 --> 00:00:54.759 for the podcast. So well, this is likely the final episode for Our 14 00:00:54.799 --> 00:00:57.880 Flag Means Death. We will be back to cover other shows on our main 15 00:00:57.920 --> 00:01:00.280 podcast feeds. So if you're listening to this on the Spacing Out with Our 16 00:01:00.320 --> 00:01:03.359 Flag Means Death feed, then do want to hop over to the main feed, 17 00:01:03.439 --> 00:01:07.719 spacing out BB and Jason. Well, you'll find all of these episodes, 18 00:01:07.840 --> 00:01:11.159 plus we've covered all the Battlestar Galactica, some Star Trek, and we've 19 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:15.200 got more in the pipeline. But for now, let's discuss Our Flag Means 20 00:01:15.280 --> 00:01:19.840 Death, Season two, episode eight, Merman. This originally aired on Occober 21 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:23.000 twenty six, twenty twenty three, Written by David Jenkins and John Mahone, 22 00:01:23.079 --> 00:01:27.760 directed by Fernando Frias. In this episode, Ed struggles to make fishing a 23 00:01:27.760 --> 00:01:32.719 successful career move. He returns to find the Republic of Pirates now under the 24 00:01:32.719 --> 00:01:36.439 control of Prince Richard and the Royal Navy. Retrieving his leathers, he finds 25 00:01:36.439 --> 00:01:38.959 one of Steed's messages in a bottle, and the pair are soon reunited, 26 00:01:40.200 --> 00:01:44.400 joining forces with Jang g Sal and they returned to Spanish Jackie's only to find 27 00:01:44.439 --> 00:01:47.599 she has poisoned the Royal Navy officers in the bar. The skies in the 28 00:01:47.640 --> 00:01:51.719 dead officers' uniforms. The Pirates infiltrate the garrison, killing many of the soldiers 29 00:01:51.760 --> 00:01:56.159 before escaping into the sea. Izzy, mortally wounded, reconciles with Ed before 30 00:01:56.239 --> 00:01:59.560 drawing his last breath. Lucius and Black Pete are married and ed and Steed 31 00:01:59.640 --> 00:02:02.560 retire to a life of innkeeping. What a show man? What a show? 32 00:02:06.760 --> 00:02:10.879 Five check? Did we like the episode overall? How does it stand 33 00:02:10.919 --> 00:02:15.479 the test of time? It had a lot. I can't believe they fit 34 00:02:15.680 --> 00:02:20.759 all of this into one episode, and it was so satisfying. You know, 35 00:02:20.879 --> 00:02:24.479 there's like oppression, revenge, a funeral, a wedding, and a 36 00:02:24.520 --> 00:02:32.360 retirement going a retirement. All the life milestones were happening, Like the one 37 00:02:32.360 --> 00:02:38.400 thing we were missing was like the birth of a child. But I mean, 38 00:02:38.479 --> 00:02:43.360 yeah, so this being season finale that ultimately became the series finale, 39 00:02:43.439 --> 00:02:46.240 Like, do you feel it it holds up in that regard? Yeah? 40 00:02:46.319 --> 00:02:50.840 Yeah, I think it works well for both where there's room for it to 41 00:02:51.000 --> 00:02:53.439 like, you know, you can speculate what will happen, you know, 42 00:02:53.800 --> 00:02:59.159 but it's it's also a very solid ending for us to leave them here. 43 00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:01.719 Yeah. I mean, it's not like season one where we were left longing 44 00:03:01.919 --> 00:03:06.719 for these characters to be back together. You know, it ends in a 45 00:03:06.800 --> 00:03:09.360 place where we get satisfaction. There's still loose ends. We still kind of 46 00:03:09.400 --> 00:03:13.719 wonder like what's next for a lot of them, But I think they definitely 47 00:03:13.719 --> 00:03:17.159 made the right call to have it wrapped up to a point where if they 48 00:03:17.199 --> 00:03:25.319 didn't get to continue that it would feel satisfying. Trivia time. What facts 49 00:03:25.319 --> 00:03:29.080 could we uncover from Merman? All right? Well, a little bit of 50 00:03:29.120 --> 00:03:32.599 trivia. On January ninth, twenty twenty four, the series was officially canceled 51 00:03:32.599 --> 00:03:38.159 by Max. Series creator David Jenkins has stated that the original plan was for 52 00:03:38.240 --> 00:03:43.319 three seasons, and there was a fan funded campaign dubbed renew as a Crew. 53 00:03:43.719 --> 00:03:46.240 It was launched and raised enough funds surround both a Billboard and Times Square 54 00:03:46.360 --> 00:03:50.960 and a plane flying over Hollywood with the message save our Flag means Death, 55 00:03:51.080 --> 00:03:57.560 and other campaigns continued as well under the banners of Adopt our Crew and SAVEFMD 56 00:03:57.759 --> 00:04:01.319 Crew. But in March twenty twenty four, alongside thanking fans for their efforts, 57 00:04:01.360 --> 00:04:05.319 series creator David Jenkins announced that their efforts to revive the series and find 58 00:04:05.319 --> 00:04:11.240 a new home on another streaming platform were unsuccessful. Wall it was too gay. 59 00:04:11.439 --> 00:04:14.039 It was too gay. Okay, we didn't sign up for this gay 60 00:04:14.080 --> 00:04:16.560 stuff. Yeah, we wanted a pirate show with tough guys. You said 61 00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:21.560 this was about like black Beard and pirates and swashbuckling. Now we have madies 62 00:04:21.680 --> 00:04:30.720 mating deep sea dive. Let's break down some of our thoughts on the episode. 63 00:04:31.560 --> 00:04:35.639 You can share your thoughts with us through email or social media. We 64 00:04:35.720 --> 00:04:41.120 may use your comments on an upcoming episode. All right, well, end 65 00:04:41.120 --> 00:04:46.519 of the episode, we have black Beard and his peaceful fishing retirements. He 66 00:04:46.759 --> 00:04:49.639 sucks. You would be the worst person to work with. I remember when 67 00:04:49.639 --> 00:04:56.199 I used to work in jobs that required team effort and having that one coworker 68 00:04:56.279 --> 00:05:00.120 who didn't do their fair share, and how much I fucking hated that per 69 00:05:00.959 --> 00:05:04.959 I hate working with them. I hated their personality. I hated the way 70 00:05:05.000 --> 00:05:10.519 they talked, the way they walked. I hated everything about them. And 71 00:05:10.560 --> 00:05:17.560 I could I felt so much empathy from the sailors or the fishermen having to 72 00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:23.839 deal with this like lazy bum who does nothing, has no skills, has 73 00:05:24.040 --> 00:05:30.240 no qualifying like skills to do the thing he said he would help them do 74 00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:33.680 if they told him he could come. It meant they needed a third man. 75 00:05:33.920 --> 00:05:41.000 Yep. And he's just like pondering the fish scales and like living in 76 00:05:41.040 --> 00:05:46.920 this kind of fantasy with being one with nature, very like eat prey love, 77 00:05:47.560 --> 00:05:53.160 and I'm like, girl, you're at a job. I think they 78 00:05:53.199 --> 00:05:57.920 needed hard labor. Yeah, and then he insulted them by continuing to emphasize 79 00:05:57.920 --> 00:06:01.160 how simple they were. He's like, all these simple fishermen and their simple 80 00:06:01.240 --> 00:06:08.519 lives and there's simple ways. And the mother, like the older fisherman, 81 00:06:08.720 --> 00:06:11.360 was just like pissed off. He's like, you fucking suck. Don't call 82 00:06:11.399 --> 00:06:18.240 me simple, bitch. It's like Blackbeard has zero social cues. Growing up 83 00:06:18.279 --> 00:06:26.120 as a pirate has not taught him how to like cohabitate or co mingle with 84 00:06:26.959 --> 00:06:30.759 real people. Yeah, so he doesn't have a lot of transferable job skills 85 00:06:30.920 --> 00:06:34.279 in that regard. We'll see how well he does as an innkeeper. Well, 86 00:06:34.279 --> 00:06:38.160 I guess we won't see, but we can imagine. We saw it. 87 00:06:38.199 --> 00:06:41.959 And when he was in the gravy basket. Yeah, so yeah, 88 00:06:42.120 --> 00:06:45.360 they tell him to go back to whatever he did before. Yeah, if 89 00:06:45.360 --> 00:06:47.519 you were ever good at anything, to do that, because you suck at 90 00:06:47.560 --> 00:06:51.519 everything else. So he goes and he finds his leathers. No, he 91 00:06:51.680 --> 00:06:59.000 finds that his pirate bay is collapsed. There are ships a muck and there 92 00:06:59.079 --> 00:07:03.639 are British soldiers telling him he can't fish there. And he's like well, 93 00:07:03.680 --> 00:07:06.800 I guess I must do what I must do. I must safe Steed, 94 00:07:06.839 --> 00:07:11.920 I must figure out myself and become a pirate again. And then he gets 95 00:07:11.959 --> 00:07:15.759 his leathers, he kills two British soldiers and then he decides to go back, 96 00:07:15.800 --> 00:07:21.560 and then he emerges from the water like this epic figure. Right, 97 00:07:21.600 --> 00:07:26.040 So did he get dressed in the water then, because he comes out of 98 00:07:26.120 --> 00:07:31.079 the ocean. That's that's semantics. Okay, we don't talk about what how 99 00:07:31.160 --> 00:07:33.879 he got dressed or what he did. Okay, He's like, I gotta 100 00:07:33.879 --> 00:07:39.240 make a dramatic entrance. The entrance was epic. It was really cool. 101 00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:43.040 It was some one of the coolest shots. And then I love that they 102 00:07:43.079 --> 00:07:46.639 cut so you didn't see like the full body. You just saw him like 103 00:07:46.720 --> 00:07:50.560 emerging like kind of like a shark in the water or something. And then 104 00:07:50.600 --> 00:07:55.519 they cut something else and it was like, oh, man, black Beard's 105 00:07:55.600 --> 00:08:01.879 back. Oh it was so good. Meanwhile, Jackie is being forced to 106 00:08:01.120 --> 00:08:09.439 serve the Navy, the British officers who she tormented, specifically Richie or whatever 107 00:08:09.519 --> 00:08:15.839 his name is. Yeah, he's like relishing in his power dynamic shifting. 108 00:08:16.120 --> 00:08:20.160 He is like forcing her to do nasty things and treat him like he's the 109 00:08:20.199 --> 00:08:24.120 best patron in the world. And one of the British officers is like, 110 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:28.639 aren't you worried that she's poisoning us? And he's like, oh, I 111 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:31.679 have a poison tester. And you see Swede in the background just getting like 112 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:37.919 waterboarded with wine rum or whatever they're drinking, and it was like, wow, 113 00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:43.000 and I love that. At the end of the episode, when we 114 00:08:43.080 --> 00:08:48.519 find out Spanish Jackiing was poisoning them, but that sweet is poison trained. 115 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:52.559 Unbeknownst to him though, Yeah, he's like, am I gonna die? 116 00:08:54.240 --> 00:08:58.360 He's so unaware. I just love that. Jackie's like, I have a 117 00:08:58.360 --> 00:09:03.240 contingency. We are all isn't trained in our family. So she was playing 118 00:09:03.360 --> 00:09:07.960 chess when he was playing checkers. Yep. I love that. And but 119 00:09:09.399 --> 00:09:13.320 yeah, he and he captured like a majority of the crew, and even 120 00:09:13.559 --> 00:09:16.480 we find out Auntie is alive. Yeah, she was in the back of 121 00:09:16.480 --> 00:09:22.840 that cell covered up. Yeah. And before that, we find Steed and 122 00:09:22.120 --> 00:09:28.919 Gyang escaped capture and they're under the bridge that's collapsed, and she's kind of 123 00:09:30.039 --> 00:09:33.120 just like mourning the loss of Auntie because she has no idea that she's alive. 124 00:09:33.399 --> 00:09:37.279 Yeah, and it really slows her down, like it causes her to 125 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:41.879 not be reactive and active in a way that she would be like when those 126 00:09:41.919 --> 00:09:46.679 British officers approach them. Yeah, she's kind of given up. And then 127 00:09:46.799 --> 00:09:50.440 even when she does decide to go like take action, she kind of assumed 128 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:52.679 like he's going to die in this process, but she has nothing left to 129 00:09:52.720 --> 00:09:58.600 live for her whole crew and Anti and her fleeting. Yeah. Yeah, 130 00:09:58.639 --> 00:10:05.720 I think the of Chosen Family was really strong in this, especially when that 131 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:13.639 the noseguy Ricky finds out that Izzy Hands is among his captured and he pulls 132 00:10:13.720 --> 00:10:16.440 them out to have a drink with him, and Izzy Hands explains to him 133 00:10:16.519 --> 00:10:20.080 why he will never be a true pirate. He can like, you know, 134 00:10:20.200 --> 00:10:26.480 capture everyone in end piracy and be the best pirate like logistically, but 135 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:33.320 to be a pirate means to hold this Chosen Family above everything else. It's 136 00:10:33.399 --> 00:10:37.919 part of like he said, you are part of something people accept you, 137 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:41.720 and the whole world tells you you're nothing. And that was so beautiful the 138 00:10:41.759 --> 00:10:46.039 way that he monologued that, the way that he explained kind of what Chosen 139 00:10:46.080 --> 00:10:50.799 Family means, and that's like the heart of the show. Yeah, and 140 00:10:50.840 --> 00:10:58.559 it's just like really well articulated and emphasized in this conversation by one of the 141 00:10:58.679 --> 00:11:03.039 characters that has learned it in some of the hardest ways. Yeah. Like, 142 00:11:03.120 --> 00:11:07.759 I definitely think that's at the forefront of is he's mind these days, 143 00:11:07.799 --> 00:11:11.519 because well, they're set to die, right, They're gonna hang. They 144 00:11:11.559 --> 00:11:15.440 don't see a way out, So I think he's but yeah, he's been 145 00:11:15.879 --> 00:11:22.559 kind of grappling with and accepting how the crew is what establishes him in the 146 00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:28.960 world and what centers him in a way that feels like there is love and 147 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:33.480 family and belonging and something. You don't get that if you're like a neerty 148 00:11:33.559 --> 00:11:37.679 well pirate, right. So it's just like, I don't know, I 149 00:11:37.799 --> 00:11:41.679 just really enjoyed that monologue and that that conversation. I'm glad that they touched 150 00:11:41.720 --> 00:11:45.919 on it and they kind of laid it out. I think a lot of 151 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:52.120 us understood the nuances and the like undertones of all of this playing out, 152 00:11:52.200 --> 00:11:56.759 but to say it, I think is really powerful. Agreed. Yeah, 153 00:11:56.799 --> 00:11:58.960 It's like one of the thesises of the show. Yeah, And I think 154 00:12:00.159 --> 00:12:03.600 that's really what helped like round it out for me and made me feel like, 155 00:12:03.720 --> 00:12:09.519 okay, this is and it also made it hurt more when he died. 156 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:13.480 It just made it hurt so much more because you see this character who 157 00:12:13.519 --> 00:12:18.639 has grown so much and who is a beloved character now to be lost from 158 00:12:18.720 --> 00:12:22.679 some petty little bitch. Oh. It was like it was almost anti climactic 159 00:12:22.759 --> 00:12:26.440 the way he dies, Yeah, because it's just a shot, like a 160 00:12:26.519 --> 00:12:31.519 random, like like not even aimed, just a shot in the dark that 161 00:12:31.679 --> 00:12:35.279 happened to hit him in a critical part of his body. And I was 162 00:12:35.399 --> 00:12:39.480 like, like, what do you do? The Crew new like the Crew 163 00:12:39.600 --> 00:12:45.440 New, but Blackbeard was so desperate, like trying to save him because I 164 00:12:45.480 --> 00:12:50.960 feel like Blackbeard finally understood like their relationship, like they both were at odds 165 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:56.000 at sometimes and they weren't on the same page. They hurt each other, 166 00:12:56.480 --> 00:13:01.840 and now I feel like there was like an opportunity for them to be like 167 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:07.519 together in a way that was like healthy. But it's gone because he's obviously 168 00:13:07.679 --> 00:13:13.440 not going to survive. This so tragic. I just the arc of Easy 169 00:13:13.480 --> 00:13:18.200 Hands is just so tragic and so beautiful and unexpected. Like you, I 170 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:22.799 don't think I want a season three if there is no Easy Hands. You 171 00:13:22.840 --> 00:13:26.559 know, it's really interesting how he became such a big part of the heart 172 00:13:26.600 --> 00:13:30.120 of the show. Like I probably wouldn't have said that in season one, 173 00:13:30.440 --> 00:13:33.679 No, but he really grew this season. Yeah. Yeah, And that's 174 00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:37.799 what I think why I personally feel like this is a good ending, just 175 00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:43.519 like because I mean I wish they would have been as like thoughtful whenever they 176 00:13:43.559 --> 00:13:48.679 wrote out other characters or they weren't able to come back or whatever, they 177 00:13:48.720 --> 00:13:52.960 didn't get invited back from season one. We had a couple from Blackbeard's crew 178 00:13:54.080 --> 00:14:00.879 who died off like or were like expelled. Yeah, there was even and 179 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:03.919 you know, we never really got to know him. No, I can't 180 00:14:03.919 --> 00:14:07.000 really tell you anything about him other than he was like present and like visually, 181 00:14:07.039 --> 00:14:11.480 I think you saw like him and Fang and Izzy as kind of like 182 00:14:11.519 --> 00:14:13.799 a trio at first, And I thought that was kind of a missed opportunity 183 00:14:13.840 --> 00:14:18.399 when I mean, if they were going to just like write him off off 184 00:14:18.399 --> 00:14:22.240 screen like that, they're like when Fang and black Beard went out on that 185 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:24.840 fishing boat together, that they could have brought him back for an episode, 186 00:14:24.960 --> 00:14:30.679 show some flashbacks about them like leaving or something. I don't know, I 187 00:14:30.799 --> 00:14:35.039 just like discuss how like it was obviously like that was traumatic for Fayg to 188 00:14:35.159 --> 00:14:37.360 like have lost one of his friends, his crewmates, and have black Beard 189 00:14:37.399 --> 00:14:41.080 like not give a shit about it. Yeah. Yeah, that's so. 190 00:14:41.320 --> 00:14:46.559 That's like one thing that I thought about when I was watching them kill Izzy 191 00:14:48.440 --> 00:14:50.840 and give him like lay him to rest and everything, Like, I was 192 00:14:50.919 --> 00:14:54.440 like, dang, so like I even didn't get any of this, and 193 00:14:54.559 --> 00:15:00.519 it would have been a good juxtaposition to show the difference between you know, 194 00:15:00.840 --> 00:15:05.120 Blackbeard then and how he treated his crew and how like a death would have 195 00:15:05.159 --> 00:15:11.039 affected him then versus now too. Like I don't know, I just always 196 00:15:11.039 --> 00:15:13.200 think about that. I don't know why, I guess because not a lot. 197 00:15:13.440 --> 00:15:16.559 This isn't like the Game of Thrones, where like a character dies in 198 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:22.639 every episode that's like part of the main crew. So it's like hard to 199 00:15:22.799 --> 00:15:28.080 grapple with the loss without having any sort of backstory or anything. It's just 200 00:15:28.159 --> 00:15:31.080 like, oh, he's gone, I'm so sorry bye, and then that's 201 00:15:31.120 --> 00:15:33.919 it. We mentioned it once. Yeah, it's like they didn't really want 202 00:15:33.960 --> 00:15:35.759 to talk about it. They just had to give it a line. Yeah, 203 00:15:35.879 --> 00:15:41.159 okay, So I like that they bring back the Pinocchio reference. Yeah, 204 00:15:41.240 --> 00:15:45.240 they're all very familiar with that story. I think I mentioned this before, 205 00:15:45.279 --> 00:15:48.240 but Pinocchio actually hadn't even been written yet at the time this is set. 206 00:15:48.519 --> 00:15:52.759 Yeah, so when the crew escapes from the jail cell, they've been 207 00:15:52.840 --> 00:15:56.600 the bars with the shirt and they have someone has a pee on the shirt 208 00:15:56.600 --> 00:16:00.399 to make it wet, to make it work. That is a scene out 209 00:16:00.440 --> 00:16:03.240 of Shanghai Noon, the Jackie chan Owen Wilson movie. Oh, I haven't 210 00:16:03.279 --> 00:16:07.440 seen that. I don't know if it's in like other movies, if it's 211 00:16:07.440 --> 00:16:10.720 like a trope or something. But wait, I haven't seen that recently. 212 00:16:11.240 --> 00:16:14.600 I saw that like when it came out back in the nineties. Yeah, 213 00:16:14.639 --> 00:16:18.200 well they escaped from the cell doing that same thing if you see keep your 214 00:16:18.200 --> 00:16:22.000 Shirt. Yeah, but that I don't remember seeing that in the actual show. 215 00:16:22.039 --> 00:16:25.480 That was like at the end credits they talk about needing to do it 216 00:16:25.600 --> 00:16:27.480 in the show, like someone needs to pee on this to make it work. 217 00:16:27.679 --> 00:16:32.200 And then in the post credit scene you see they've bent the bars with 218 00:16:32.240 --> 00:16:34.879 it and Frenchy's skinny enough to get through. Yeah, And I guess there 219 00:16:34.919 --> 00:16:38.360 was also a Mythbusser's episode to said that wouldn't work. Yeah, okay, 220 00:16:38.639 --> 00:16:44.519 otherwise we'd have escaped prisoners all the time. What else, we had a 221 00:16:44.519 --> 00:16:47.960 lot of a lot of sword play going on. Yeah. I love the 222 00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:55.600 scene where Blackbeard is mowing down his set of British troops and then Saying and 223 00:16:56.600 --> 00:17:03.960 Bonnet are encountering their own set and they're fighting through and they then black Beard 224 00:17:03.000 --> 00:17:07.440 and Bonnet see each other and they run towards each other and they back. 225 00:17:07.559 --> 00:17:11.240 They they flash back to a different scene where they did that too. I 226 00:17:11.279 --> 00:17:15.359 don't remember if that scene was from the Gravy Basket or not. No, 227 00:17:15.519 --> 00:17:21.839 it was from the season two episode one. Steve is like writing his letters 228 00:17:21.880 --> 00:17:25.319 and it's like dreaming. Yeah, it's like a dream sequence. I think, 229 00:17:25.359 --> 00:17:27.799 Okay, he encounters like is he on the beach and then he like 230 00:17:29.039 --> 00:17:32.839 fights him and then encounters black Beard and they run and hug and then yeah, 231 00:17:33.680 --> 00:17:37.000 into reality. Yeah. I noticed, like when they were on that 232 00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:38.920 beach, I'm like, this looks a lot like the beach from that scene, 233 00:17:40.000 --> 00:17:41.400 or like, are they going to kind of do that run towards each 234 00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:45.279 other again? And they did. Yeah, it was very satisfying. And 235 00:17:45.319 --> 00:17:48.480 then they're like, oh, yeah, there's still a fight with a bunch 236 00:17:48.519 --> 00:17:53.480 of British officers that we need to take care of. And all Awande and 237 00:17:53.559 --> 00:17:57.519 Auntie have a heart to heart about like I don't know, it's just like 238 00:17:57.839 --> 00:18:03.279 how zang me somebody to be soft because she's so tough. I don't you 239 00:18:03.279 --> 00:18:07.200 can talk about it, can I? Yeah, he's just helping Auntie to 240 00:18:07.240 --> 00:18:11.519 be there for Zaying in the way that she needs. Yeah. I. 241 00:18:11.519 --> 00:18:17.000 Meanwhile, Jim is like Yankee metal shards out of me Auntie and they're just 242 00:18:17.079 --> 00:18:25.400 like nonchalantly talking and all Awandi's like okay, like gagging because there's like blood 243 00:18:25.480 --> 00:18:29.519 and gore, and she's just like no, no, tell me, like 244 00:18:29.799 --> 00:18:33.599 I want to understand. And then when they when Auntie and Saying see each 245 00:18:33.599 --> 00:18:40.160 other, Alawande's like soft, aunty soft, and she says that she's proud 246 00:18:40.160 --> 00:18:44.839 of her, which is something you know she's felt, but she's never vocalized 247 00:18:45.160 --> 00:18:48.279 and that's so cool. I love that. And then they hug and they 248 00:18:48.319 --> 00:18:52.599 probably never hug, right, Oh. I love that relationship. I love 249 00:18:52.680 --> 00:18:59.640 that they they have their moment because it was traumatic for Saying to lose her 250 00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:03.279 her auntie, her mother, figure, her confidant, her first mate, 251 00:19:03.359 --> 00:19:07.400 Like it's it would be devastating, and it is devastating when we see it 252 00:19:07.440 --> 00:19:12.440 happened to Blackbeard, you know. And I think she has like a lot 253 00:19:12.480 --> 00:19:18.039 more compassion for it now that she's experienced it. So she's like kind of 254 00:19:18.359 --> 00:19:21.680 extending an olive branch and saying, how like, hey, we want to 255 00:19:21.759 --> 00:19:23.960 kill the same guy. Do you want to team up? And I swear 256 00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:27.480 I thought they were gonna Yeah, there was no indication that they weren't going 257 00:19:27.519 --> 00:19:30.519 to. Yeah, it was surprised. It was like a total surprise to 258 00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:33.839 see them at the inn. Yeah, and uh there's a wedding in there 259 00:19:33.880 --> 00:19:38.839 too, with black Peat and Lucius. Yeah, they're Mati's And yeah, 260 00:19:38.839 --> 00:19:42.440 I mean I assume that despite that, Auntie is still alive, she's still 261 00:19:42.480 --> 00:19:48.119 lost a lot in terms of people and possessions, Like yeah, I mean 262 00:19:48.160 --> 00:19:52.720 she lost her whole routine, her whole like crew. She was like thinking 263 00:19:52.759 --> 00:19:56.759 about like how in the morning they would wake up and do taichi and all 264 00:19:56.759 --> 00:20:02.200 this like beautiful group. Like she had an emp that she has just lost, 265 00:20:02.519 --> 00:20:04.000 and she will. I mean, I don't know how long it's going 266 00:20:04.079 --> 00:20:07.880 to take for her to rebuild, if she will rebuild, Like, we 267 00:20:07.920 --> 00:20:12.519 don't know these things. These are things that we don't get answers to because 268 00:20:12.559 --> 00:20:18.200 of the longevity of the show. This is not something where we're ever going 269 00:20:18.279 --> 00:20:21.359 to find out, but it is something we can speculate, you know, 270 00:20:21.519 --> 00:20:25.119 like how does she move on from this trauma? But I think it helps 271 00:20:25.160 --> 00:20:29.400 to have people with you that can understand, like your loss. Yep. 272 00:20:29.519 --> 00:20:32.720 And now they're all part of the family. Yeah. And I love that 273 00:20:32.799 --> 00:20:36.240 Spanish Jackie's in here too. Yeah, Spanish Jackie and the Swede were on 274 00:20:36.240 --> 00:20:38.240 the ship as well. Yeah. I think they're talking about how they're going 275 00:20:38.279 --> 00:20:42.799 to start a new bar somewhere. Yeah, tavern. And it appeared that 276 00:20:42.880 --> 00:20:47.599 Frenchie was acting as captain. Did you get that at least he was the 277 00:20:47.599 --> 00:20:51.039 one given orders. Maybe, so, I think that's what we're to draw 278 00:20:51.079 --> 00:20:52.839 from that, unless unless he was the first mate to someone else. But 279 00:20:53.000 --> 00:20:59.039 think he's in the captain's seat now. And Steve and Ed are innkeepers. 280 00:20:59.279 --> 00:21:03.039 Yeah, next to he's great yep. And then a little bird lies in 281 00:21:03.079 --> 00:21:07.359 there, a seagull specifically who we are most likely to believe is But I 282 00:21:07.559 --> 00:21:12.039 fucking died right there. I was dead. I was deceased. Bury you 283 00:21:12.160 --> 00:21:17.440 neix Isy, Yeah, Okay, Yeah, this show is great. I 284 00:21:17.519 --> 00:21:22.759 can't speak its praises more than I already have. It's it's an incredible show. 285 00:21:22.960 --> 00:21:27.279 It's got heart, it's got like comedy, it's got like strong, 286 00:21:27.759 --> 00:21:33.240 like competent characters that evolve. It's so good. It's just it's to me, 287 00:21:33.319 --> 00:21:37.039 it has everything that I want from like a feel good show. Yeah. 288 00:21:37.039 --> 00:21:41.839 I mean thinking back to like episode one or it just seemed like this 289 00:21:41.960 --> 00:21:45.319 is kind of a silly pirate show about an EPs captain trying to pretend to 290 00:21:45.319 --> 00:21:48.240 be a pirate, and just how much it evolved from there. Yeah. 291 00:21:48.359 --> 00:21:55.039 Yeah, this guy who abandoned his life is wealthy well to do like persona 292 00:21:55.200 --> 00:22:00.119 to become this wealthy well to do pirate, like he just like dressed up. 293 00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:06.480 He was like putting lipstick on a pig basically and trying to pass it 294 00:22:06.519 --> 00:22:11.319 off as like something that was not like, but he learned and like at 295 00:22:11.319 --> 00:22:15.480 the end, Zaying gave him like a heartfelt compliment of saying, like you're 296 00:22:15.519 --> 00:22:18.559 a passable pirate or you're pretty good at it. If I have to tell 297 00:22:18.599 --> 00:22:22.799 you, things work out for him. He's very lucky, and I like 298 00:22:22.920 --> 00:22:26.160 that. I don't want to see like our main characters losing all the time. 299 00:22:26.480 --> 00:22:32.200 So it but it's just I don't know, it's just like I can't 300 00:22:32.200 --> 00:22:36.000 see this show without Easy. It just it's so hard to think about it 301 00:22:36.039 --> 00:22:38.960 without this character, especially with all the new growth, Like I would have 302 00:22:40.119 --> 00:22:44.920 loved to see him like be in charge or be like part of the group 303 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:48.240 again. Like I don't know, it's just so sad to lose him. 304 00:22:48.319 --> 00:22:51.920 I just can't get over it. Like I think during all of our spoiler 305 00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:55.920 sections, I always talked about how fucking upset I am that he dies, 306 00:22:57.519 --> 00:23:00.799 and it's just I don't know, Well, yeah, I think the show 307 00:23:00.839 --> 00:23:06.079 would be a little hollow without him. It'd be very hard to watch it 308 00:23:06.160 --> 00:23:11.920 without this like character that's grown so much, Like you don't eat the payoff. 309 00:23:11.079 --> 00:23:15.039 You got like a taste of it, but there could have been so 310 00:23:15.160 --> 00:23:18.359 much more there. And I wonder if they killed him off just to give 311 00:23:18.400 --> 00:23:21.759 it, like because they knew they were done anyway, but they didn't know 312 00:23:21.799 --> 00:23:26.240 they were canceled until January. Yeah, so I wonder if the actor was 313 00:23:26.279 --> 00:23:30.279 like I've had enough. I mean sometimes it's like a sacrifice like that. 314 00:23:30.559 --> 00:23:33.720 Just I mean, like what they accomplished in this episode had a cost to 315 00:23:33.799 --> 00:23:37.079 it. Yeah, and that cost was easy and that was a difficult one 316 00:23:37.440 --> 00:23:41.119 to swallow. Yeah, it really was. It really made this like episode 317 00:23:41.559 --> 00:23:45.720 super emotional, Like it's just it was so hard not to cry. And 318 00:23:45.799 --> 00:23:49.200 the only reason I didn't cry was because I've already seen it. This is 319 00:23:49.240 --> 00:23:52.640 like your first time watching it. Like, I hope you had Kleenex. 320 00:23:52.720 --> 00:23:56.599 I hope you had a little blankye. I hope you had like support system 321 00:23:56.920 --> 00:24:00.519 to get you through this, because it's so hard because not only are you 322 00:24:00.599 --> 00:24:04.599 losing one of the best one of well, there's so many good characters, 323 00:24:04.640 --> 00:24:08.839 but he was just really good. And then but we're also saying goodbye to 324 00:24:08.920 --> 00:24:11.839 a show. The show is over, there's no more of it. There 325 00:24:11.880 --> 00:24:17.200 never will be again. And I don't know if anything that's come out lately 326 00:24:17.519 --> 00:24:23.319 even meets the standard of this show in terms of diversity, humor, Like, 327 00:24:23.920 --> 00:24:27.440 this show never felt like it was pandering to the queer audience, you 328 00:24:27.480 --> 00:24:30.480 know what I mean, like gay baiting or anything. It was like, 329 00:24:30.759 --> 00:24:34.640 but it wasn't like explicitly like this is a gay show, Like we're not 330 00:24:34.759 --> 00:24:40.680 queer as folk or the L word. But this show felt like it was 331 00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:47.000 just incorporating queerness in such a natural way that I just I haven't seen it 332 00:24:45.799 --> 00:24:51.799 in television again, and I'm really sad about it. Yeah, and you 333 00:24:51.839 --> 00:24:55.759 can pick and choose shows that like have incorporated, you know, a gay 334 00:24:55.759 --> 00:24:59.079 couple, a queer couple, or a queer storyline or something, but like 335 00:24:59.160 --> 00:25:03.720 this was like fully realized and in that in that community in so many ways. 336 00:25:03.920 --> 00:25:07.920 Yeah, it wasn't just talking about a pair of people who happen to 337 00:25:07.960 --> 00:25:11.400 be gay and every once in a while the storyline will be like, oh, 338 00:25:11.480 --> 00:25:17.240 look at that, they're gay. It's like the fiber of the queer 339 00:25:17.279 --> 00:25:25.039 community was like spread out and threw out, woven into this like storyline and 340 00:25:25.160 --> 00:25:29.400 this community of people, like the crew that it was just so well done. 341 00:25:29.480 --> 00:25:33.200 Well speaking of the crew, should we move into the next section to 342 00:25:33.559 --> 00:25:36.279 Yeah, I could gush about the show for like hours. So yeah, 343 00:25:36.319 --> 00:25:45.400 let's astral Queen. Who was the standout character in the episode? If you 344 00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:48.200 had to get a tattoo to commemorate the show, what would you what would 345 00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:55.200 you do? I know mine mine is the kitty cat flag, the flag 346 00:25:55.240 --> 00:26:00.599 with the kitty that they slow up, That would be mine. Did they 347 00:26:00.680 --> 00:26:03.599 fly that at the end? Did they fly a flag? No, we 348 00:26:03.680 --> 00:26:06.119 didn't see one. We didn't see a flag. We should have brought that 349 00:26:06.200 --> 00:26:08.480 back. Yeah, I don't know. I'm trying to think of like an 350 00:26:08.519 --> 00:26:12.039 object or a symbol as opposed to like putting a person on me, like 351 00:26:12.079 --> 00:26:17.839 a bird. Yeah, I could put a seagull, and like, change 352 00:26:17.880 --> 00:26:22.279 is always possible, Change is always possible. That's a good one. I 353 00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:26.400 like that. Who's your astral queen? This one is so hard because so 354 00:26:26.519 --> 00:26:30.720 many people did so much and so well. Yeah, like everyone was involved 355 00:26:30.759 --> 00:26:34.640 in like the Escape and the Yeah, like Spanish Jackie could be one. 356 00:26:34.880 --> 00:26:38.240 I think I might give it to Spanish Jackie because I've never given her one, 357 00:26:38.279 --> 00:26:42.000 I don't think. And she really surprised me. And I just love 358 00:26:42.079 --> 00:26:47.319 Leslie Jones and I'm really sad that she's not going to be in the next 359 00:26:47.400 --> 00:26:48.839 season, you know. Yeah, I love that she was. She was 360 00:26:48.839 --> 00:26:52.440 a step ahead of them. Yeah, she was playing chess. They were 361 00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:56.799 playing the role of nerdy. Well, yeah, she's like, oh woe 362 00:26:56.880 --> 00:27:00.559 is me? You won, you bested me. But she was and she 363 00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:03.480 was bid in her time. Who do you pick? Since like the playing 364 00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:08.480 field is fairly even with everyone having done their part in this. I kind 365 00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:12.759 of want to give it to mister Israel Hands. I can't believe that's his 366 00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:17.599 real name. I don't think I ever mentioned this. He's a historical pirate 367 00:27:17.640 --> 00:27:19.240 too. Oh yeah, I'm sure he is. Beards first mate. So 368 00:27:19.400 --> 00:27:23.279 but yeah, I mean because he I mean because we lost him, and 369 00:27:23.359 --> 00:27:30.160 because he really articulated the message of the show and has really become kind of 370 00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:34.720 a was it like self realized, self actualized character, really understands who he 371 00:27:34.839 --> 00:27:37.960 is and his role in this. And yeah, it's a beautiful moment, 372 00:27:38.000 --> 00:27:42.160 and it was a gut wrenching moment to lose them. So we'll give him 373 00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:47.400 an award posthumanously. I don't know if I said that right. Humorous? 374 00:27:47.480 --> 00:27:51.440 Yeah, humorous? No, that's humorous? Is the bone that that's that's 375 00:27:51.480 --> 00:27:53.000 your funny bone? How do you say it? I feel like I've never 376 00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:57.160 heard someone say it. I just see it in writing a lot. Posthumous, 377 00:27:57.559 --> 00:28:03.839 posthumous posture. I thought it was posthumorous. After you stop being funny, 378 00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:07.319 after you tell a joke, you're posthumorous, all right. I have 379 00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:12.799 tallied up our Astral Queens the entire series. Looking back at season one, 380 00:28:14.079 --> 00:28:17.839 we had a three way tie for the Astral Queen of season one. Oh 381 00:28:18.440 --> 00:28:22.680 and those were alu Wan Da, Lucious, and black Beard. Okay, 382 00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:26.640 all three with five votes, and then we also voted for Steed and Mary 383 00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:33.599 and Buttons. Then moving into season two, the winner of that season is 384 00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:37.839 is he Hands oh wow, who notably did not get any votes in season 385 00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:45.200 one, And then looking at the series overall, the astral queen for our 386 00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:52.240 flag means death is Lucious. Wow. Lucious. His pants were really good 387 00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:59.400 in the whole seasons. I love his pants, the sailor cut where it's 388 00:28:59.400 --> 00:29:03.720 a straight, almost bell bottom kind of pant, like a wide leg trouser 389 00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:07.640 just elongated his tour so so many times. But sometimes he wore a little 390 00:29:08.319 --> 00:29:12.400 kind of like a capri version of that, like a gaucho, so his 391 00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:17.640 ankles were out and he was so cunty. Okay, yeah, Lucius is 392 00:29:17.680 --> 00:29:21.440 great. I think that's a great astral queen. They were using his clothes 393 00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:26.480 to ben in the bars on the jail side. His Mormon underwear was that 394 00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:32.160 underwear. I think that was just underwear of the time. The second place 395 00:29:32.519 --> 00:29:37.400 overall was a four way tie, oh, Alan Steed, Bonnet, black 396 00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:41.119 Beard, and is he hands all five votes, Buttons with three votes, 397 00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:45.400 Mary Bonnet and Jang with two votes, and the Swede and Spanish Jackie at 398 00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:49.680 one vote. Nice. That's how the astral Queen's worked out. Aliwandi had 399 00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:52.960 a really early lead. We voted for him, like the first two episodes. 400 00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:56.440 It was so good in the beginning. They like started him off really 401 00:29:56.480 --> 00:30:02.079 strong. Yeah, and I did not realize that Lucius said such a strong 402 00:30:02.119 --> 00:30:06.160 showing. But yeah, I mean Lucia's did a lot because he was the 403 00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:11.759 what is it called, I'm not a stenographer, the record keeper. He 404 00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:15.720 was like, you know, the history maker. Okay, yeah, that 405 00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:18.640 was good. I love this. I love the astro queen section. And 406 00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:23.480 no spoilers, boohoo, no spoilers. So if they announced today that there 407 00:30:23.559 --> 00:30:26.839 was going to be a season three, what would you want to see in 408 00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:30.720 that season? What do you think would be happening given where we left off? 409 00:30:30.839 --> 00:30:34.920 Okay, so I think the innkeepers are going to fail miserably. They 410 00:30:34.920 --> 00:30:37.720 can't keep they don't know how to fix a roof, they don't know how 411 00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:45.559 to fucking install a new window. There's it doesn't seem like there's uh infrastructure 412 00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:51.200 left to do any of these things. Uh, So I feel like they're 413 00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:53.759 just going to try it for an episode or maybe two, and then they're 414 00:30:53.759 --> 00:31:00.079 going to go back and find the crew, and the crew is going to 415 00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:06.680 find the Noseless Wonder and tear him apart maybe or make him like eat his 416 00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:10.799 old nose. I don't know. Uh, but there's gonna be revenge. 417 00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:14.480 Revenge is definitely on the plate. Yeah, I mean that's the thing that 418 00:31:14.599 --> 00:31:17.799 like the kind of villain of the end of the season is still out there. 419 00:31:17.960 --> 00:31:19.519 So yeah, like that has to be addressed. I don't know if 420 00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:23.640 like the whole season would be like a revenge thing, or now they introduced 421 00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:27.880 a new character that's also like trying to get them, maybe a new pirate 422 00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:34.279 to show them up, I don't know, and then maybe like marital looes 423 00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:41.079 between Lucius and Black Pete just like you know, newly weed and like you 424 00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:44.240 know, being in a pirate ship being newly wet, like how do they 425 00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:48.839 deal with that? And then I would love to see how French she runs 426 00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:53.359 a ship if he is indeed the captain or the one in charge, because 427 00:31:53.359 --> 00:31:59.759 he's so like he's always thinking of the next con, just like a little 428 00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:04.880 con artist. He loves a good Like would they be like going around grifting 429 00:32:04.920 --> 00:32:08.400 people more than rating them? Like I think both. I think he'd teach 430 00:32:08.519 --> 00:32:13.759 them the art of the grift in a way that would be like very impactful 431 00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:16.799 for them if they land on land, you know, because in the on 432 00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:21.759 the sea they're pirates, but on land, what are you? And then 433 00:32:21.799 --> 00:32:29.000 maybe like another episode with like a high class like a dynamic like we had 434 00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:32.359 in the first season where we see them trying to like elevate themselves and trying 435 00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:36.640 to fit in, but they don't. Something to do with that maybe, 436 00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:40.039 yeah, Like considering that it was intended to be the final season, the 437 00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:45.000 third and final season, like would we bring back any guest stars that have 438 00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:51.000 been there before, like the two women Mary Reid and and Bonnie Yeah, 439 00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:54.240 or any of the people from like Nick Kroll and those guys from that episode 440 00:32:54.279 --> 00:32:58.599 though, that would be what I would want to see, like another episode 441 00:32:58.599 --> 00:33:01.759 with them like the rich people might be trying to get revenge on Steed, 442 00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:06.000 lowing up their lives like that. Yeah. And then Kaliko Jack, I 443 00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:08.000 want to see him die. He already died? Oh didn't he? How 444 00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:12.599 did he die? You got hit with like a Cannonball and that. Yeah, 445 00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:15.559 I forgot. Oh my god, he's the worst. Oh yeah, 446 00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:19.839 he double crossed them, So like I would love to see like another double 447 00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:23.839 cross too, or like uh, splitting of the crew, like some people 448 00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:28.680 want to stay with the old Revenge and other people want to go as saying 449 00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:31.519 to grow the empire. Yeah, I would like to know more about what 450 00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:36.920 Jang's plans were for like being on in this part of the world. She 451 00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:40.079 was bringing all those ships over and gaining all that crew, Like what was 452 00:33:40.119 --> 00:33:45.640 she trying to accomplish specifically, and like is she trying to rebuild that and 453 00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:47.720 is that going to cause you after they go on the Revenge mission? Would 454 00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:52.200 it cause them to split off? And Raakes, I don't believe that was 455 00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:55.720 her whole entire fleet. She had a fleet all over the world, but 456 00:33:57.279 --> 00:34:00.799 the ones that were at the Republic got the clocks. So I don't think 457 00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:05.960 they all got the clocks. But maybe I'm wrong. I'd love some some 458 00:34:06.119 --> 00:34:09.679 more exposition on that. But like I said, I don't know. I 459 00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:14.519 don't know if I can watch this show again without Izzy hands. It's just 460 00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:17.480 not the same. But I would love to see them and drag again, 461 00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:22.760 like another Calypso's birthday. But that's just the show again, Like I'm not 462 00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:27.079 a creative person like that. I'm not a writer, so I can't like 463 00:34:27.800 --> 00:34:30.760 speculate, like you know, a writer could be like, oh yeah, 464 00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:37.000 and then they invent the car and I'm like, what I expect Roach is 465 00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:42.679 going to invent some more food items? Yeah, and uh French he's gonna 466 00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:45.280 come up with. I mean it's already done, like a pyramid scheme. 467 00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:50.320 I don't know, some other like Grip that's well known. Maybe they'll do 468 00:34:51.079 --> 00:34:53.519 they did like the Nigerian prince thing. Yeah, but maybe they'll do like 469 00:34:53.559 --> 00:34:58.159 a weekend at Bernie spoof. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know, 470 00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:00.119 like what what would be like the main con flick or anything. But 471 00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:06.480 it's hard because all of our crew are so like diverse. Well they're all 472 00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:08.320 on good terms with each other, like everyone is saying, like a happy 473 00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:13.519 place here. So it's like I don't really want to make tension between them. 474 00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:16.679 I don't mind tension between the crew. I think that's natural, especially 475 00:35:16.679 --> 00:35:21.480 in a family, like I think that's what I would think about, like 476 00:35:21.519 --> 00:35:27.599 in a family and a dynamic, like maybe tropes of favoritism or you know, 477 00:35:27.800 --> 00:35:32.519 jealousy. There's so many things that can happen within a family that still 478 00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:36.840 leave you being a family. Like you can get over it, but you 479 00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:39.960 know, you kind of go through it. Yeah, I don't know. 480 00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:44.920 Like I said, I'm not a writer. I'm just very critical of writing. 481 00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:52.360 I don't know. I would love to be able to, like if 482 00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:55.239 they had an outline, like just a general outline. I mean, I 483 00:35:55.280 --> 00:36:00.639 wish they could do like an animated series to give us like an adult animated 484 00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:05.800 series, and that's usually cheaper than doing a full production in like New Zealand. 485 00:36:06.039 --> 00:36:10.480 Yeah, Like I think realistically, like if you have a vision for 486 00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:17.239 a show or like a creative idea and you're not able to execute it in 487 00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:22.000 the medium that you want to, if you are really passionate about getting the 488 00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:27.840 story out or getting the product out, you would find alternatives. Maybe there's 489 00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:31.400 a comic book, a web series. You know, there are ways for 490 00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:37.000 you to finish your work. Yeah, that was my thought that I know 491 00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:40.800 a lot of shows have continued through comics, like well, Firefly got a 492 00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:45.320 movie, but they also continued that story through comics and then later books. 493 00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:49.639 Buffy continued in comics for a few seasons. They even called the comic book 494 00:36:49.679 --> 00:36:53.679 season nine or whatever. Yeah eight. So yeah, and several shows have 495 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:57.760 done that, and you know it doesn't have the same size of audiences, 496 00:36:57.880 --> 00:37:00.639 have the same reach. But if you're really in I said in it, 497 00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:04.639 like you get to continue is what you started. Yeah. So I just 498 00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:09.960 a part of me feels a little betrayed by the creators, oh just a 499 00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:17.639 hair just also because they didn't want to explore other options or other avenues to 500 00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:22.760 finish what they started in a way like they said, no, we don't 501 00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:24.360 know that, we just they just they couldn't find someone to pick up the 502 00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:29.280 show right for streaming another season they could come out. I mean it could 503 00:37:29.320 --> 00:37:31.920 be years from now to get something that's fair. That's fair, Okay. 504 00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:37.119 Yeah, I guess I don't know enough about like the Hollywood machine to understand 505 00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:43.000 like what can happen in terms of like moving the story forward. But there's 506 00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:46.320 so many ways to explore a narrative that I'm just like, why can't you 507 00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:50.239 just give it to us, Like give it, like I'll take it in 508 00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:53.400 any way you want to give it to me, baby, just give it 509 00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:58.239 to me. I just want like a resolution. I want to see these 510 00:37:58.360 --> 00:38:04.199 characters. Like it's though, because I feel like the crew the actors on 511 00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:13.559 this show were fundamental to creating the vibrancy and the engage the nature of the 512 00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:16.400 show. But it would be fun if they did, like an animated series. 513 00:38:16.719 --> 00:38:20.519 Maybe Comedy Central could pick it up. I don't know, but I 514 00:38:20.559 --> 00:38:23.000 don't know. Well, I think it's safe to say that if there there 515 00:38:23.039 --> 00:38:29.159 ever is any more content in this universe, that will most likely cover on 516 00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:35.119 the show. But we're also like totally okay and at peace with what we 517 00:38:35.239 --> 00:38:37.480 do have. I feel like I don't want to feel like I don't want 518 00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:43.320 to convey this idea that I'm ungrateful for what we have because it was such 519 00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:46.559 a privilege to have a show like this, Like this kind of show would 520 00:38:46.559 --> 00:38:52.519 have never existed like twenty years ago, you know. So it's just like 521 00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:57.079 the timeline that we're living in right now to be able to witness it for 522 00:38:57.239 --> 00:39:00.559 it's short to span. I think it's made such a deep impact in the 523 00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:07.239 communities that it spoke about and four and two that it's just like, I 524 00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:09.039 don't know, but it's just like, you're so grateful, it's crazy. 525 00:39:09.159 --> 00:39:13.199 Whenever they give you crumbs you'll fucking take them, you know. And I 526 00:39:13.199 --> 00:39:16.360 feel like this was they were the most delicious, delectable, like little tastes 527 00:39:16.440 --> 00:39:22.360 of what television could be for like a queer, diverse audience. And I'm 528 00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:29.239 like hungry for more obviously, but I will savor what we have what exists. 529 00:39:29.559 --> 00:39:32.679 Yeah, but there ever is a season three or a movie or animated 530 00:39:32.760 --> 00:39:37.320 or comic or novel or something like, I think it's safe to say we'll 531 00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:40.920 we'll at least come back here and address whatever is released. Yeah, if 532 00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:45.440 anything is, I don't I'm not anticipating anything, but yeah, there's no 533 00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:49.360 pressure. It's going to leave that out there. But moving on to what's 534 00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:52.400 next for the podcast. So again this will be on the on the main 535 00:39:52.760 --> 00:39:58.760 feed, the Spacing Out with BB and Jason feed. We're looking to shift 536 00:39:58.840 --> 00:40:01.599 gears again and get better in the outer space. Woo woo. I'm also 537 00:40:01.639 --> 00:40:08.159 a little scared scace. Space is scary. Did you know that space can 538 00:40:08.199 --> 00:40:13.199 be very terrifying? Did you know that in space no one can hear you 539 00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:16.800 scream? Is that a tagline? It's a tagline. We want to look 540 00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:22.440 at the alien universe. It's the Gourdney Weaver motherfuckers. Yeah, so we're 541 00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:27.760 gonna we're gonna look at some movies for a change and really kind of dive 542 00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:31.239 into that franchise and so scared. It's gonna be scary. It's gonna go 543 00:40:31.400 --> 00:40:37.360 well with the fall season. And there's so there's you know a number of 544 00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:40.639 Alien movies out already. There's one about to come out in theaters in just 545 00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:44.519 a few weeks, so it's good timing with that. And then there's also 546 00:40:44.920 --> 00:40:47.679 a TV show in development that I read it was like early twenty twenty five 547 00:40:47.719 --> 00:40:51.280 that that's coming out, so oh wow, Okay, we might take a 548 00:40:51.320 --> 00:40:53.280 look at that as well. But I think that's the plan, and we've 549 00:40:53.360 --> 00:40:57.039 we've discussed you know, where we want to go after that, because this 550 00:40:57.039 --> 00:41:00.519 will only be you know, a pretty limited run of here about six weeks. 551 00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:05.599 Yeah, and then well we'll discuss more. But like Alien also crosses 552 00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:07.960 over with Predator, and then that's a whole movie series that has a really 553 00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:10.639 great movie called Prey in it. Oh yeah, I love that movie. 554 00:41:10.719 --> 00:41:15.519 I didn't know nothing about Predator except for maybe like there's one one with Arnold 555 00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:20.760 swatsoning are in it. Yeah, that's the original with Arnold and Carl Weathers. 556 00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:25.159 Yeah, I seen that a long time ago, and then I and 557 00:41:25.199 --> 00:41:29.840 then I watched Prey, so I watched the very first one and the very 558 00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:32.960 last one. So I'd love to see what else is in between with the 559 00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:37.199 Predator franchise as well. But yeah, I'm not sure about that, but 560 00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:40.880 we'll we'll discuss. We'll keep it open. BB and I are getting ready 561 00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:45.840 to relocate for like the fourth time since we've been doing spacing out, so 562 00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:50.119 it's going to be a few weeks off before we get into that. I'm 563 00:41:50.119 --> 00:41:54.159 anticipating we get that startup in August August. Wow, Yeah, okay, 564 00:41:54.280 --> 00:41:59.679 I'm down. We got to pack up the podcasting equipment so we will be 565 00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:04.760 in the New city talking about Alien and I'm excited because I've I've seen Alien 566 00:42:04.760 --> 00:42:07.559 and aliens a number of times. I've only seen the others like once. 567 00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:12.280 Oh, I know, there's like a monster with the with the with with 568 00:42:12.320 --> 00:42:16.000 the tongue that's also a monster. So it's like a fish within a fish. 569 00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:20.440 How does that work? Who's got the Who's who's making the moves, 570 00:42:20.679 --> 00:42:23.280 Who's who's driving the ship? Is it the little guy or the big guy? 571 00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:27.320 I think it's a big guy with like a mouth within a mouth, 572 00:42:27.519 --> 00:42:29.920 a mouth in a mouth, but does the mouth ever be like, I 573 00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:31.880 am hungry, give me some food. I want sweets, because that's how 574 00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:36.239 it feels like for me as a person. Sometimes I'm like, oh, 575 00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:39.440 I'm craving some like chips right now. Do you think that's how that works 576 00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:43.199 When the little guy's like, hey, you should get a cheeseburg, you 577 00:42:43.239 --> 00:42:50.519 know, well we'll figure that out when we talk about alien Okay, So 578 00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:54.079 that's what's next for us, and that's going to do it for our coverage 579 00:42:54.360 --> 00:42:59.079 of our flag means death. I had really great time revisiting the show with 580 00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:02.159 you, bby. It's my favorite show. I think I got to appreciate 581 00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:06.320 it a lot more on the second watch. I think, well, we 582 00:43:06.320 --> 00:43:08.639 were analyzing it in a way that you didn't. You were just like I 583 00:43:08.719 --> 00:43:12.960 think you started watching it because I was watching it, and you were like, 584 00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:17.039 oh, that's interesting. And then you saw Ed and Bonnet hooking up 585 00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:21.280 before I did. I was watching it not expecting it, and you're like, 586 00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:24.480 oh, they're really going there. You saw all the signs before I 587 00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:30.119 did. So I'm glad we got to watch it again, and I hope 588 00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:32.679 to watch it again soon. I feel like it's like a comfort show for 589 00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:37.800 me, Like it's just it's so good and it makes me feel good to 590 00:43:37.880 --> 00:43:40.400 watch it. It's like being with family, like at the Olive Garden, 591 00:43:40.639 --> 00:43:45.400 so you know when you're here your family. Yeah, all right, Well, 592 00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:50.440 thanks for sailing on the Revenge. I hope you have found or will 593 00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:55.320 find a family to belong to. Thank you for spacing out with BB and 594 00:43:55.400 --> 00:44:00.119 Jason. You can help us out by subscribing and leaving a positive rating or 595 00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:05.679 review. We welcome you to join us as we continue to discuss other series