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What is going on? Clippers fans, Welcome back to Clips. That zip

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is the season two episode fifty three
point one. We're back after the All

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Star break. Slippers play basketball tomorrow
night. We're all very excited about it.

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I am Chuck Mockler, joined by
Adam Oslin and Will Updyke. We're

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gonna get to how we're feeling.
But today we're talking Clippers were sunder.

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It's a very big game for the
standings. We're talking the back to back,

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the Clippers to come, the Clippers
come back to There was some wonderful

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ex Clipper fights happening over the All
Star break. We're all very excited.

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Basketball's back, so that can stop. But before we get into it,

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Adam will, how are you guys
doing on Clippers come back to basketball?

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Eve, Adam will start with you. How is your All Star break?

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It was better than the actual All
Star game, I'll tell you that much.

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I played our defense against myself,
I guess during the All Star break,

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and I had a buddy hangout.
We had a good time. Uh,

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you know, recharge, regroup and
get ready for marsh as as you

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know all too well. Jeff Well
or Will were you rationing supplies for this

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upcoming March schedule. Not yet,
not yet. No looking forward to this

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hillacious stretch of games for the Clippers, which is still somehow the quiet before

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the storm, which I'm sure we're
going to talk about. So yeah,

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I'm be good man. Nice.
Yeah. I had a good break.

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We got some free comics which was
cool from Ryan Peril. I read,

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Yeah, I read Power Rangers comics
now apparently. Yeah. Thanks everyone who's

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listening, Thanks everyone who's watching over
on YouTube. Let's get into this Clippers

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Thunder game preview. There's no injuries
for the Clippers, which is fantastic.

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The official dude the Moose might be
loose. Someone asked about him in the

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comments on Twitter if Moosa is gonna
play and I I don't think it's in

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the cards. We gotta feel good
about the health. Gordon Hayward set to

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make his debut for the Thunder.
I don't know, Adam were in another,

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like most important game of the year
standing wise, it kind of sucks.

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It's the game after the All Star
break, right, I don't know.

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They got healthy. It's probably better
than having it before the All Star

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break because the Clippers weren't playing that
well. If you just look too and

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two their last four they were kind
of alternating wins and losses, even while

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they had three of those games at
home. And I looked over the last

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fifteen games, they're seventeenth defensively,
and that's post the beat down of what

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happened in okase see, and then
what happened at home against Boston, which

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could skew the numbers, but that's
after that. So yeah, defensively,

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they got to tighten things up.
They have to play much better. And

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there's gonna be a lot of these
games coming up, but this one in

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particular, considering this is the final
game against OKC. It's the rubber game,

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the head to head tiebreaker will be
decided tomorrow night. It's big time.

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It's not gonna be easy. And
okay, see, we know how

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good they are, and they were
playing much better basketball than the Clippers over

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the last ten games heading into this
one, heading into the All Star break.

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But you just like the fact that
the Clippers are healthy. And there

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were some comments from James Harden that
I saw on Lam Murray's Twitter talking about

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how it's about attention to detail.
Now you know, we can't beat ourselves

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any longer, we have to make
the other team beat us and basically just

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tighten everything up with just twenty nine
games remaining heading into the playoffs. Yeah,

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it's kind of been wonky facing the
Thunder this year. We haven't been

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able to give them like our best. We didn't have Kawhi, we didn't

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have Zoo. Obviously, PG was
great in that game without Zoo. That's

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how we get the win. But
like this is, I mean, it's

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kind of nice. I guess for
a neutral fan that this is gonna be

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of one hundred percent to a hund
percent matchup. Will what are you looking

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forward to most or I guess maybe
least from this This Thunder team, I

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mean, a team that could already
readily drop one thirty on you is adding

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another offensive piece, which you know, we'll see how the integration works and

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how quickly they're able to do that. But yeah, I mean it's it's

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a good addition for them, another
wing, which will tax a smaller Clippers

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team when they have to worry about
more than just guards kind of going off.

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And then I mean they already have
side like they already have size I

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guess across the board. So yeah, it's it's a tough one. It's

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a tough one. I'm going to
be interested in what I like. I

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don't know what my expectations are for
the offense the first game back from the

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All Star Break. I want it
to be very good. I know that

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it's not going to be at its
best, but Zoo's going to be healthy,

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which obviously helps the defense a lot. But like maybe the I'm hoping

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the pick and roll looks a little
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a little bit. I hope James
Harden, if he gets forced into the

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mid range, looks a little bit
better. He shot like his worst percentage

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in almost ten years from three to
ten feet right now. Everything else is

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great, but that's just the one
thing where I think defenses are going to

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push him towards. Yeah. So
I'm excited to see what the offense looks

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like on some full rest, especially
from Zoo. I also want to see

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them get off Obviously, it's asking
a lot because the Clippers have struggled recently.

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They were much better in this area
overall this season, but recently they've

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been really bad in first quarters.
Again. They are twenty third in net

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rating their last five games, in
first quarters, and it's looked the part

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they've been getting off to very slow
starts. We've kind of wondered whether or

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not, you know, that road
trip took something out of them, that

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seven game Grammy road trip, and
there were still residual effects from that those

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last four games before the All Star
break. But they have to speaking of

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tightening things up, they have to
start much faster, especially against Okasee,

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a team that pretty much is the
new analytics team out there outside of the

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Houston Rockets with James Harden and Mike
D'Antoni, because it's drives and it's threes,

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it's a lot of that stuff.
They leave the league in drives per

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game by a pretty wide margin.
And then you know, they don't take

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quite as many three pointers as the
Houston Rockets did back in the day or

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anything like that. They're actually i
think middle in the middle of the pack

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like the Clippers are, but they
shoot a really high percentage from the outside.

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They're right behind the Clippers. They're
number one at thirty nine point five

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percent from three. Okayse is thirty
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So they can beat you from the
outside. They can beat you. Then

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driving by you and getting to the
basket. That's a lot of SGA,

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of course, but they have a
ton of slashers. They have a ton

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of youth and young guys and fresh
legs. That probably would have been fine

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without an All Star break out of
all the teams little so getting that and

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their opportunity to recharge at home waiting
for the Clippers, that's a big advantage.

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But you take some of that away
if you could just get off to

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a quick start in the ballgame and
start to impose your will right off the

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bat and get back to having that
defensive mentality, something they've also been lacking,

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as I mentioned the last fifteen games, just seventeenth overall defensively. Yeah,

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I was just looking at their shot
distribution there. You're right, as

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you said, they're right in the
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They're also right in the middle of
the pack with two pointers. They take

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the fourteenth most two pointers and the
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of hitting from everywhere. They're not
leaning one heavy one side. I like

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what you said about the analytics.
It's like the analytics distribution kind of like

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everything went crazy with d Antonio now
they're kind of figuring it out more with

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the Thunder. Yeah, defensively,
it's gonna be weird, I think,

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right like will we saw Jalen Williams
kill us, and then he was on

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the bench for the other game,
so like we know what they're big guys

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can do. I'm worried about one
of these, not random because that feels

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more disrespectful than I mean it,
but one of these bench Thunder guys can

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do right, Like they kind of
have sneaky scoring depth on their team,

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especially now adding Gordon Hayward. That's
somebody who offers more depth of veteran presence

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out there. I know he doesn't
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this is somebody who was an All
Star, has a lot of pride,

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and it's somebody they can lean on
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what he's capable of. He's been
in the league for so long now he

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had the injury. He's not the
same player that he used to be,

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but he's still more than serviceable.
And I always worry about guys that have

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a change of scenery like that,
where they were playing meaningless ball games and

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now they have an opportunity to be
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and what that can do and bring
out of them. I think that's going

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to be a big pickup for this
OKAC Thunder team. But last time out,

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I believe it was Yeah, Isaiah
Joe had fifteen points off the bench

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against them. He was really good
in that Clippers one twenty eight to one

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to seventeen victory at Crypto or PG
thirteen had nineteen, was thirty eight in

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the fourth quarter. But they definitely
have guys coming at you in waves off

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the bench. You have to account
for, Yeah, and the bench defense.

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Now that we've had some rest from
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fully recovered. I I don't think
he was one hundred percent heading into the

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All Star break after getting hit in
the head. That'll be big. Yeah,

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Will Adam mentioned the defense, What
do we do we or do we

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just needs you to be back and
well, like will we be happy with

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the defense? I mean that's obviously
a major piece, and I'm hoping that

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he looks a lot better given the
long break, But it's it's also going

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to be difficult to cover this team. You guys mentioned the bench, like

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our bench defensive, like isn't really
known as a defense a unit, so

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that that's gonna be that's gonna be
difficult for for those guys that are gonna

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have to you know, keep up
the keep up the pace, which they

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are you know, willing to do
and and well equipped on that second unit

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to at least kind of keep things
even if a couple of these bench guys

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for the Thunder end up popping.
But you know, it's gonna come down

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to matchups and and how they're able
to curb Shay. You know, we

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saw a lot of different looks at
him. I think, if I'm not

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mistaken, I was just look at
Paul, George Kawhi and James and James

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Harden all played the played the most
on him. It's like one of those

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things where you look at he you
know, he that he got his fewest

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field goal attempts off like while those
guys were on him, but you look

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at how much the team was still
scoring over those stretches. There's like a

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two minute stretch where Thunder still had
like twenty team points, so uh and

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and and it wasn't all Shay assisted. But it's one of those things where

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it's it's just one head at the
Snake, But you know that's that's obviously

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the matchup, that's kind of the
marquee match of it, and how they're

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able to distribute those minutes and then
likewise, I mean, if they aren't

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able to slow down some of these
guys, like who is going to get

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things going quickly? I think you
know the way that we kind of went

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into the All Star break. You
know, it was good to get the

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comeback victory, and I think we
were all feeling a lot better, especially

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I feel like the upset of the
Timber Bows games. But the way that

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we have looked as of late hasn't
been particularly inspiring. And I'm curious to

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see, like what what the malaise
of a long break does really for both

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teams and how that affects them and
the guy that I'm going to be really

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watching in this one, especially if
the Clippers have trouble stopping this thunder teams,

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what is Paul George gonna look like? Offensively? So I know you

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asked me about the defense, but
there you go, No, that's fair

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because Paul, I mean, Paul
George, he's the growing thing was so

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it was brutal, he was so
up and down so streaky. Sometimes he'd

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have it, sometimes he wouldn't.
He was good on the defensive end,

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ish, yeah, like came and
went. I think that was some of

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the things that was like more troubling
about that Paul stretch post growing injury,

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was like, you know, he's
gonna go through stretches where he doesn't have

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it, you know, where he's
not he's not having the offensive production that

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he did to start the season.
But I think something like some of the

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more troubling stuff was him just looking
out of place and a little lost out

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there. I always think that that
stuff is a little bit more like these

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are the things you can still control, you know, that are still within

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your control. You can't really it's
not up to you if the shots fall

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down or not, Like that's not
really your determination. But like what you're

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doing, especially for Paul on the
defensive end of the floor, says a

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lot about like what you can still
contribute and not to get down on the

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guy. But like it just wasn't
you know, he was one of many

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Clippers who I wasn't giving flying marks. You're trying to light a fire,

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You're not trying to get down.
If you're trying to light a fire for

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the right fans out there. Okay, sorry, Adam, go ahead,

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No, I think it's going to
tell a lot about where Paul George is

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at in this game physically and how
he's feeling out there, because it just

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seemed like he was trying to bide
his time, just get to the All

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Star break, get some days off. He still played in the All Star

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Game, I think, knocked down
a couple of three pointers, but that

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fourth quarter against Golden State before he
filed out, and those last two fouls

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were bad fouls. He was being
overly aggressive. When you want to talk

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about not playing well enough defensively,
that last foul against Draymond Green just shouldn't

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happen. But I like what we
saw offensively from him in that fourth quarter,

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who was forcing the issue a little
bit more. And while he was

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one for seven from three in that
game, he was seven of ten from

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two and eventually he kind of just
went away from the three ball in that

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fourth I want to see that level
of aggressiveness from PG thirteen get some easy

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ones too, if they're not falling
from the outside, because I don't want

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to see this Clippers, and it
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of the best offenses in the league, but have to win a shootout in

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OKC like they won back at home
in that game where they knocked down twenty

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three pointers, OKAC had sixteen.
They basically just outshot them and PG thirteen

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was unbelievable down the stretch. And
then you had the Kawhi block on Sga.

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I don't know how repeatable that is
on the road in OKC against that

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team with that home court advantage,
in that crowd behind him. You want

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to see them get back to playing
much better defense. And to what Chuck

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was saying earlier, is it as
simple as just having a Viatza Zubas be

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healthy? Another big test for him. Let's see how big Zoo's moving out

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there. He also looked really good
late in the fourth quarter before he went

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out ended up playing almost thirty minutes
in that game against Golden State. That's

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really the best he had looked so
some days off for him and Paul George

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and Kawhi Leonard. Hopefully it does
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Yeah, you mentioned the Paul George
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games. He took fifteen free throws
combined in the last two games. He

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averages four a game this year.
It's one of his lowest averages of his

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career. And then we went on
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I believe I'm ninety percent sure it
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because it's not like he's going to
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but like if he's getting Paul George
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game, it kind of drastically changes
what he can do offensively. So I

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like what you said about, like
he made the conscious decision to be more

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aggressive and go to the basket because
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But Kawhi is the only guy who's
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a first option of that kind of
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Chet Homegron like they did against Rigobert. You're gonna lose some of those battles,

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but you still have to go after
that guy who I think had eight

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or nine blocks in a game against
what Denver at one point this season.

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So it's not easy. But it's
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built guy. At this point of
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bird chest to him. You can
as big as Paul George is, you

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can go at him some. So
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lot of twos at the rim with
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got to try to match it a
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Clippers had been much better in overall
the last fifteen games was points in the

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paint. We saw that being a
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It really changed for them. It
just seemed like they were unveiling a

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different part of their offense where they
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back to what was the old saying
from a coach, Lou fifty cent,

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get to the paint or die trying. It seemed like they were much more

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intent on doing that. So I
want to see that continue. Will Do

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you think you could bench more than
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so. Well wait, wait what
does he bench? I don't know.

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I just I've been I'm going purely
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one, I can bench one thirty. I don't know. I don't know

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if it's a Kevin Durant like thing. Speaking of Biggs though, like Daniel

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Tys played twenty minutes in that win, a guy who is no longer in

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the rotation. I'm just curious what
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get distributed, and like, what
what does it look like for plumb I

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mean, plumb had a solid game
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but Tyson played like twenty minutes.
Like I said, also, solid

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game is plus nine in the block
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is he not going to play.
I want to see better Plumbly. I

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know the question was maybe about Tyes, but Plumbly did not go into the

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All Star break on the Upswing Warriors
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that's true. That's a really good
call. He was although no, yeah,

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he was fired up, which is
great. So maybe that is maybe

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that that's something he can kind of
bottle up for the last week or whatever

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and get into it. But Tye, if Plumbley isn't playing well, I

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think Tysi play because we've seen Lou
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I really hope Plumby is looking good. Real quick, I found some data

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on the chet Holmgren thing. Apparently
during the draft, uh you know,

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combined thing, he couldn't lift the
one eighty five bench. Uh that they

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do, so it is like KD. He couldn't do it either at the

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come. So it's like KD.
I think you could bets what they drafted

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him. They're like, we got
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as em and can't lift one eighty
five and they're going to turn out to

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be superstars. I think you could
do it with hoops man. You've always

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said that absolutely nothing. You know, PJ. Tucker can bench four fifty.

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I have it on the forty.
I mean I bet, yeah,

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yeah, definitely working out for Yeah, h Adam go out on the backup

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back. He should bench the whole
bench. He spent so much time over

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there bench. Uh. Zubots wasn't
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I expect him to soak up twenty
five plus minutes and it's probably gonna be

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Mason Plumley getting the first opportunity.
That's just the pecking order. I think

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it makes sense overall. Mason Plumbley
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bench for you against someone like Chet
Holmgren. You need a guy like that,

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And to Will's point, he played
pretty well in that game against OKAC

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in the victory back at Crypto.
Yeah, it's gonna be interesting how they

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play the pick and roll with Chet
because he could be the handler or the

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screener. So if he's the screener, I'm a shooming there, going under,

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but maybe not, I don't know. Yeah, this game. I'm

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nervous for this game, but I'm
mostly excited because everyone's healthy on both sides,

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so we get to see a full
on Western Conference Finals type preview thing,

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which is again always happy for neutral
fan. That's who I'm most concerned

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about these scenarios. Go sports,
Go sports. We love sports. Okay,

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now we get to the most important
part. We haven't done this for

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like a week, had plenty of
time to think about it. Who is

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our your Also, if you're listening
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It cannot be Kawhi Leonard, but
that's what it's named after. Will.

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Who is your Kawhi Leonard player of
the game pick. Oh, we talked

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about it a little bit, but
I'm going Paul George. I'm ready for

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a big bounce back game. You
talked about how Grady was that fourth quarter

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in the Warriors. Let's let's see
it for four quarters or three blow them

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now at the fourth. Uh,
that would be great. Adam, you're

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Coahi Leonard player of the Game.
I'm gonna go with James Harden, who

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struggled a little bit the first two
games against OKAC mentioned the quote from him

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or earlier. They need to be
more detail oriented right now. They need

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to be more focused, more laser
focused. And I want to see it

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from him because even in that victory
they had over Okay, see, he

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was just five of fourteen. I
did have eight assists to just one turnover

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with those sixteen points on five to
fourteen shooting. But I think they're probably

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going to need more from him,
just because it's likely going to be a

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game played in the one fifteens,
one twenties at least, so an efficient

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night from James Harden. Plus he's
got to take care of the basketball.

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What did he do over the All
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he was not in Indiana chilling.
I guess, hey, there we go.

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Good enough for me resting. He's
been playing heavy minutes. By the

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way, if there's a guy who
needed rest, it was definitely James hard

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And you look at the game either. He was averaging thirty eight minutes over

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the last seven games. Pippers almost
it's a lot may borderline maybe too many.

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You guys went with two starters,
which is totally fair. So I'm

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gonna go bench. We haven't even
talked about him yet this preview. We

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need Russell Westbrook to be good at
the rim in this game. The Clipper

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is going to need some bench help. We know what norm Pal is there

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to do, which is make threes. He's done that very well all season,

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especially in the fourth. We need
Russ to maybe be efficient. Russ,

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don't take threes, just make your
shots at the rim. That would

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go a long way to the Clippers
winning this game. Is having not a

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frantic Russ performance, but a focused
Russ performance. I think that's uh,

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that's what we all want. And
he was obviously good in that game down

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the stretch against the Golden State Wars. That was one of the blueprints of

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how Russ can affect winning and affect
the game, and he kind of talked

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about it postgame after the fifteen point
comeback, saying, there's a lot more

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you can do out there. There's
a lot more I can do, I

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think, is what he said.
It's not just about points that affect winning

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and those hustle plays. I think
he had four offensive rebounds and most of

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them came in the fourth had another
one where he tipped it off. And

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a warrior. That's what we need
from him, scrappy Russ. I'm here

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for that. And may and as
we talked about before the break, if

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we're gonna play him in a small
ball lineup four other shooters around him,

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let's have Russ out there with four
other shooters. He can be the cog.

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He can do all the good chaos
center stuff, and the Clippers will

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be fine. I believe the Clippers
are two point underdogs right now, which

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is pretty good for an a white
spread. We're gonna have a double dip,

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I believe right now after this game
tomorrow. Who's coming with me?

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Boys? Oh, it's dependent on
winter loss, I believe. So that's

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fair. We can do that.
Hey, sure your call. We can

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definitely do that. Sounds great.
Coming up, we're gonna be talking the

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Clippers game on Friday, because of
course, it wouldn't be a Clippers season

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without coming back from the All Star
Break on a back to back, and

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then as well as the Kings game
on Sunday. We got an update on

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the bobblehead giveaway. All that's coming
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welcome back into Clips and Dip.
We just looked ahead to the Clippers

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first game coming out of the All
Star Break taking on the Thunder. Big

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matchup, but it's not the end
of the road. They got FLNA.

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They gotta take on the Memphis Grizzlies
the next day. So good news for

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people who like quantity basketball over quality
basketball. How do you guys feel about

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this morning? Is like, out
of teams you could play, I guess

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on the second night of back to
back, I mean, I'm glad it's

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not the Celtics again or something,
but yeah, I mean, it's the

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lowest scoring team in the league.
They're the bottom of the league in a

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lot of categories. Well, so
many injuries. I mean right, no,

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this isn't Yeah, their season was
over before it started. It almost

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feels like they had the Ja Moran
thing hanging over their head with the suspension,

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and then everybody got hurt, and
then he came back and he got

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hurt. It's just unbelievable. Yeah, horrible luck. You know. That

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wasn't a dig at the quality of
their players right now. It's just they

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don't have anyone who's supposed to be
there really in major roles, which is

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difficult to win. But if there's
any team that's gonna wanna make some kind

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of statement after a bunch of rest, it's a team like this. So

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this is second night of a back
to back against a team that's not very

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good. This is a Clipper.
This is the textbook Clippers track game right

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here. Talk about slow starts.
This is a team that's just gonna soume

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sprint up and down the court.
To open this game against the Clippers,

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the Memphis Grizzlies had lost nine in
a row before winning their last two games

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before the All Star Break, including
that victory over the Bucks that had Doc

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Rivers say he felt like half the
team was in Cancun or whatever. Orcabo.

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I we'll talk more about that in
a little bit, Yeah, we

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will. They did go out on
a high note heading into that All Star

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break, getting their probably their best
victory of the season winning that game over

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Milwaukee. Yeah. I mean it's
they're on a borderline streak. They beat

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the they beat the Rockets, and
then they beat the Bucks and now they

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got us. So I don't know, I'm running down the just kind of

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the Memphis. I'm looking at the
box score. I don't watch a bunch

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of Memphis games. No disrespect to
the Bucks. I just have a team

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in the Western Conference. Focus on, Well, what's your scouting report on

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Vince Williams Junior. Give us all
you got on Vince Williams Junior, any

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prospects. Scrappy guy? This is
he goes down there and he does the

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work, all right. That's the
thing. He gets boards, man,

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Yeah, he gets a lot of
boards for for a smaller guy at six

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' four. He's got some uh
pat bev hustle in him. He will

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go up there and that's you know. They still be more than him.

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No, I don't think I can
bench more than in the NBA. Who

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has an army might be could No, I think I have no doubt that

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Adam or Will could out bench chet
Hulgrin. Oh yeah, I think that

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might be the list though the bar. Yeah, but I think that's the

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list I've put up to sixty five
earlier. Today, I put probably out

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of bench a few guys thin KD
can do No, No, he can't

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do that. He's bulked up.
He's gained probably fifteen to twenty pounds since

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he first came in. But yeah, I don't think that's something he focuses

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on at all. What if What
if late stage KD just started just started

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to doing just all chess, he
gets on the Mike Bibi workout plan.

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Yeah, maybe not that. I
don't know if he'd be in the league

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that long after he started that plan. Does he get busted for Sterroid's eventually

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or what? Just look at the
man. I just been looking at him

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now, there's no way. Do
you think that's a that's fair? This

406
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:34,839
is a fact. Yes, it
is a fact based podcast. You are

407
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,799
that is fair? So who can
bench the most on Memphis? That the

408
00:28:38,799 --> 00:28:41,599
Clippers have to worry about. Basically, I like, this is a new

409
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:48,839
metric for who can bench the most. That's really funny. Yeah, I'm

410
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:53,359
looking at the last five games before
the uh the All Star Breaking, even

411
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:59,079
with those wins. So here's the
thing. The Clippers and Grizzlies have basically

412
00:28:59,079 --> 00:29:02,960
the exact same place minus over the
last five games heading into the All Star

413
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:08,400
Breaker. Doesn't feel super good.
They're both minus three, so I don't

414
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:15,240
know, just look at the schedules. I mean, they played totally Yeah,

415
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,960
it's a problem game coming off of
playing OKAC in particular, that's really

416
00:29:21,079 --> 00:29:25,200
yeah. And if you lose that
game to OKAC, it kind of feels

417
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,880
like a must win agree. You
know, with this less than thirty games

418
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:32,279
left, all of a sudden,
you can't afford to drop a game to

419
00:29:32,319 --> 00:29:36,400
the Memphis Grizzlies. So it could
tell us a lot about this team and

420
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:41,319
their focus and their mindset regardless of
what happens against against OKC, but just

421
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,039
not either having a letdown or being
able to get up for what could be

422
00:29:45,279 --> 00:29:49,559
what feels like a must win game
considering how tough their schedule is. Because

423
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,880
if you look at the top four
teams in the West. The Clippers have

424
00:29:53,000 --> 00:30:00,240
the seventh toughest schedule remaining. The
three teams around them are all by them

425
00:30:00,279 --> 00:30:04,720
ten in schedule, Minnesota twentieth schedule, Denver twenty third, OKAC twenty fourth,

426
00:30:06,039 --> 00:30:11,519
And none of this even takes into
account how condensed the Clipper schedule is

427
00:30:11,559 --> 00:30:14,839
in March, where I hear they
have seventeen games. That's my issue with

428
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,880
the strength of schedule ratings. They're
like, this is the percentage of opponent's

429
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,440
plan, Like that doesn't matter.
Also, as Will's brought up, that

430
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,720
doesn't matter in the West. The
teams don't play to their percentages in the

431
00:30:22,759 --> 00:30:26,559
West with their win percentages. You
know, you're not playing an eighth seed

432
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,279
Warriors, see you know? Like
so yeah, I like what you said

433
00:30:30,279 --> 00:30:33,240
about it's a must win if they
lose to the Grizzlies or sorry if they

434
00:30:33,319 --> 00:30:37,400
lose to the thunder because it is, and that might be regarding championship teams.

435
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,599
Do championship teams win this game?
Contender, I think one game of

436
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,519
every back to back from here on
out for the Clippers is essentially one game

437
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,359
is a must win. Yeah,
I would agree with that. How many

438
00:30:49,359 --> 00:30:56,079
back Tobacks. They haven't left if
they want a top three seed, Tomorrow's

439
00:30:56,119 --> 00:31:00,519
obviously a battle for a tiebreaker between
Okay, see, they've already lost the

440
00:31:00,519 --> 00:31:03,599
first two games against Minnesota, Yes
they have too. They would be two

441
00:31:03,799 --> 00:31:07,680
if they'd beat if they beat the
Thunder, they would be the two seeds.

442
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,359
But then they're down two to one
to the Denver Nuggets with one more

443
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:18,720
game remaining. They are in the
least favorable position by far of the top

444
00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:22,759
four teams in the Western Conference.
So I think, regardless, you have

445
00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:26,480
to win that game against Memphis.
And the standings are getting a little closer

446
00:31:26,519 --> 00:31:30,240
now between that top the two,
three four and or the two. Yeah,

447
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,799
two three four and then five six
seven, it's getting a little not

448
00:31:36,519 --> 00:31:38,720
super close, but it's tighter than
it was. Yeah, like there was

449
00:31:38,759 --> 00:31:44,960
a firm kind of block, but
it's three games between four and or between

450
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,440
four and five. But like we're
only a game up on the Nuggets.

451
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,000
They're they're right there. I would
expect them to round in the form more

452
00:31:52,319 --> 00:31:56,200
after this break in, you know, with the with the third left of

453
00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:00,720
the season and we play the Kings
on Sunday, So this three and four

454
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:06,319
is one team that's elite, one
team that we should probably most likely beat,

455
00:32:06,599 --> 00:32:10,039
and then one team that is in
a weird place kind of but has

456
00:32:10,119 --> 00:32:15,279
the capability and some of the personnel
that cause issues for the Clippers in that

457
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:22,480
King's roster. They still have two
more games against the Phoenix Suns coming up

458
00:32:22,519 --> 00:32:25,960
too, So if you're talking about
a team making the leap from five or

459
00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:30,960
six and getting into the top four, it's still on the table. Phoenix

460
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:36,920
does have the toughest remaining schedule according
to Tankaton, which I don't know how

461
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,720
many of those games are spread out
and all that chat. So, yeah,

462
00:32:38,759 --> 00:32:44,119
what's come on? Get at us
here? Can we get like an

463
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,640
enhanced Can we get like a global
rating for schedules? Remember that stupid global

464
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:54,440
rating stat we talked about? Can
we get a schedule rating international Q rating?

465
00:32:55,519 --> 00:33:00,480
Yeah? So it feels like the
Clippers already kind of have to be

466
00:33:00,599 --> 00:33:07,200
in playoff mode with these games.
Where do we realistically expect them to start

467
00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:12,119
looking like they're actually in playoff mode? I think it's like ten games after

468
00:33:12,119 --> 00:33:16,519
the All Star break is when teams
just meet. No problem, dude,

469
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,880
I don't think they have ten games, to be honest, because of everything

470
00:33:22,279 --> 00:33:29,559
because everybody else has an easier schedule
remaining. Everybody else has the advantage outside

471
00:33:29,559 --> 00:33:32,119
of Okay c with tie breakers right
now over the Clippers. Because they're down

472
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:37,519
two games to one against Denver,
they're down two games to zero against Minnesota.

473
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:42,680
They cannot afford to trip up here. And I know it's probably gonna

474
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,799
happen. They're gonna have a two
or three game slide somewhere the rest of

475
00:33:45,839 --> 00:33:51,079
the way. But you have to. It is become imperative to handle your

476
00:33:51,119 --> 00:33:55,880
business against lesser competition, and that
means the Memphis game. So I don't

477
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,599
think they have ten games. They
got to hit the ground running, probably

478
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,599
tomorrow. Yeah, I'll tell you
what I do love. I love this

479
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:08,079
little Blazer's break. We get game
sixty eight sixty nine, which is nice.

480
00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:10,639
But yeah, man, I mean
looking at this schedule, Will what

481
00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:15,599
are you thinking like this is they
really do not too late? Oh no,

482
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,360
yeah, no, no no.
I just felt like they kind of

483
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:22,039
just have they have to start tomorrow. It's kind of gotta be tomorrow.

484
00:34:22,519 --> 00:34:27,920
Yeah. Agree. They got Minnesota
within two of their first almost ten games

485
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,239
here. I mean, what are
we talking about? They can't they lose

486
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:35,440
one of those They've already lost the
tiebreaker. They have no shot twice.

487
00:34:35,559 --> 00:34:40,519
This is so brutal. There is
no time. We're talking about ten games.

488
00:34:40,559 --> 00:34:45,440
I mean, that's that's really only
it's like two weeks, two weeks

489
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:54,599
away. Yeah, true, man, that's really worrisome. Will you may

490
00:34:54,679 --> 00:35:00,880
find out within the first two weeks
post All Star Break, we may find

491
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:05,280
out how realistic and how viable it's
going to be down a top three seed.

492
00:35:06,639 --> 00:35:10,920
I like that. How what do
we Okay? So Sunday games at

493
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:16,920
six thirty which is great, nine
to thirty PM Sunday. Have the Clippers

494
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:22,639
gone two and one in this in
this three and four? Yes, I

495
00:35:22,679 --> 00:35:29,400
think so, because they have to. I like that reason. Yeah,

496
00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:34,400
yeah, I think I think the
two and anyone got three and oh,

497
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,960
actually, you know what, I'm
gonna take three and oh. I think

498
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:44,440
coming off this much rest, this
is the perfect time to get a three

499
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,440
game win streak for the Clippers in
the back part of the schedule, with

500
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:52,519
a whole bunch of rest, A
game against the Grizzlies in the middle of

501
00:35:52,559 --> 00:35:57,079
it, you know, and then
you get some rest. I guess before

502
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,199
you come back home, I'm gonna
say three and oh, Fortune favors the

503
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:06,079
Bold. Yeah, yeah, there
we go. I'm not investing. I'm

504
00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:09,880
not investing any funds into it,
but I hope what happens. Yeah.

505
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:15,039
The only person that commercial who who
came out ahead was Larry David, because

506
00:36:15,039 --> 00:36:16,519
I think Larry David and that commercial
was like, I don't want to invest

507
00:36:16,599 --> 00:36:22,199
in this as like a bit was
Sam bankman in it? I felt like

508
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,679
he came out ahead. Yeah,
all right, we take one more quick

509
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:30,440
break and then we have to talk
the doc Rivers, Patrick Beverly, Austin

510
00:36:30,599 --> 00:36:37,119
Rivers, JJ Reddick fiasco mess that
happened. We got ads coming up out

511
00:36:37,159 --> 00:36:39,239
of looks like he has a lot
to say on this subject, which I'm

512
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,920
excited for. We got ads coming
up. They've been too loud for you,

513
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,039
go ahead and turn it down.
We're doing Clips and Dip and gossip

514
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:52,239
after these ads and three two what
welcome back in It's season two episode fifty

515
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,400
three of Clips and Dip. I'm
out a Moslim. We got Chuck Mockler

516
00:36:55,519 --> 00:37:00,960
and Will Updyke. We made sure
to have everybody available as we rejoin you

517
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,639
guys post All Star Break. Couldn't
just have one or two of us.

518
00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:09,840
We had to have the Big Three. Now coming up, we have a

519
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:15,960
big bobblehead giveaway that we'll give the
deta on, and you know, we'll

520
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,639
have some new prize to give away
eventually here on this podcast, as we

521
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:24,440
always do. But not sure anyone's
winning. When it comes to this inner

522
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:31,239
strife in turmoil between ex Clippers and
their former head coach in Doc Rivers,

523
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:38,079
it started with JJ Reddick going off
on Espen saying, no, it didn't

524
00:37:38,079 --> 00:37:43,320
start with him, Chuck. I
think it started with Doc saying insane things.

525
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:49,280
Well, did he say something?
What was the most recent thing that

526
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,039
was the jumping off point You're saying, Doc talking about how it's harder than

527
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,639
I thought it would be coming in
mid season. I think it started with

528
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,000
the comments were like I wouldn't you
know, coming into midway into a season

529
00:38:01,119 --> 00:38:05,159
is so hard, Like I wouldn't
want to know. I wouldn't wish this

530
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,519
on anyone worst enemy, Like like, I think that's kind of where it

531
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:15,960
started, and that's kind of what
I think. That's what JJ was speaking

532
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:20,000
to when he went on the rant, like what you know that Doc never

533
00:38:20,079 --> 00:38:27,079
really takes responsibility for anything, which
I think is a pretty fair criticism if

534
00:38:27,559 --> 00:38:31,199
we're being totally in certain ways,
I totally agree great like great human being,

535
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,400
solid coach. I mean he's not
a bad coach. No, he's

536
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:45,519
a good he's a good coach,
but he's he politics really well, Yes,

537
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,239
I think that. I think that's
what it is, is that,

538
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:51,800
like I find that kind of stuff
to be really rating and like annoying.

539
00:38:52,639 --> 00:38:57,280
What I've noticed with JJ Reddick is
he will take things from NBA Twitter and

540
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,199
then put them out there on the
big platform on ESPEN like plumbers. Now,

541
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:07,639
like Doc doesn't take accountability, So
is he in a position of authority

542
00:39:08,159 --> 00:39:12,360
or does he have any credibility because
he played for Doc and people are putting

543
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,400
more into that. Well, there's
other guys that played for Doc that are

544
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:21,320
then reacting to JJ reacting to Doc
because it was Patrick Beverley who then responded

545
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,039
to JJ Reddick, and then Gore
Todt signed off on what JJ Reddick said,

546
00:39:25,079 --> 00:39:30,239
retweeting it and putting a check mark. So it seems like it's split

547
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:36,440
on whether or not Doc Rivers takes
accountability. And his own son in Austin

548
00:39:36,519 --> 00:39:39,960
Rivers kind of stood up for him
to a point, or at least gave

549
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,719
his opinion on it, saying,
well, he's the one who gets fired,

550
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,360
so he's the one who's ultimately responsible. But there is a difference between

551
00:39:47,159 --> 00:39:52,639
him being fired and him coming out
and saying this is on me, because

552
00:39:52,679 --> 00:39:59,239
I think the main source of this
energy coming towards Doc is not just what

553
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,920
happened recently with the Milwaukee Bucks.
It reminded everyone of when he defended all

554
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:08,760
the three to one instances in his
career, first talking about Orlando and saying

555
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:13,519
that they lost to the eventual champions
in the Detroit Pistons, which I think

556
00:40:13,559 --> 00:40:15,000
was actually the Pistons team for the
next year, but they were up three

557
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,480
to one with t MAC and that
was legitimately a bad team and a bad

558
00:40:19,559 --> 00:40:22,840
roster in Orlando with Pat Garrity and
those guys. However, I would say

559
00:40:23,679 --> 00:40:29,800
him throwing that roster under the bus
doesn't look great. Those were his players

560
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:34,119
for him to say to the reporters, go look at that roster. That's

561
00:40:34,159 --> 00:40:38,760
not great. Then he defended the
three to one twenty fifteen second round series

562
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:44,440
against the Houston Rockets, saying that
Chris Paul didn't play the first two games,

563
00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:49,440
they were beat up, and you
know what happened with Josh Smith and

564
00:40:49,519 --> 00:40:52,199
Corey Brewer is crazy in that game
six. It feels like a bit of

565
00:40:52,199 --> 00:40:57,800
an outlier. And then he did
take responsibility for what happened in the bubble,

566
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,039
but was there something that came out
recently about him. Did he say

567
00:41:01,079 --> 00:41:05,119
something about how guys didn't want to
be there or Kawhi didn't want to be

568
00:41:05,159 --> 00:41:07,599
there or guys well, Austin Rivers
said guys didn't want to be there.

569
00:41:07,639 --> 00:41:10,519
He said guys left the bubble,
which isn't accurate. They were asked to

570
00:41:10,599 --> 00:41:15,320
leave the bubble, but I think
it was that. And then Doc had

571
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:21,679
the quote of like he's there's been
the Shay thing, there's been the like

572
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,239
there's been like the hardened quotes.
It's just like, I don't know.

573
00:41:24,559 --> 00:41:29,199
He came out and said he was
trying to sell Kawhi on keeping SGA.

574
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,639
Yeah, looking like he was on
the right side of history with that that

575
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,599
hard and fit better on the clippers
then on the seventies. It's just all

576
00:41:35,599 --> 00:41:39,599
this thing with Doc where it's like
hindsight's always twenty twenty with everybody, but

577
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:45,239
it and I think it speaks to
just frustrating. It's definitely frustrating. I

578
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,360
think it speaks to like a bigger
thing in sports media and just in general

579
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,079
kind of discourse right now, is
that like it's okay to be wrong,

580
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:58,519
Like there's true, there's truly nothing
wrong with being wrong. Everybody is going

581
00:41:58,599 --> 00:42:01,880
to be wrong, and it's just
like I just I don't like this revisionist

582
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,880
history where it's like this and that, and like the Shay thing is like,

583
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,559
not only is it blatantly untrue,
we were there, we were all

584
00:42:08,559 --> 00:42:12,400
there, We were in the locker
room for that season, like we we

585
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,000
all know what was really going down, and the only reason Shaye actually even

586
00:42:15,039 --> 00:42:19,480
got playing time. And then the
other thing that I don't like about that

587
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,239
is that also like it's once again
it's like throwing Kawhi under the bus.

588
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:27,400
So now this was somehow Kawhi's fault
that the Clippers I don't want to say

589
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,000
squandered, but like gave up an
all star level talent, Like that's so

590
00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:34,719
silly. He had not like he
wanted to play with somebody for sure,

591
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,679
but like he didn't have final say
on that, and like what does Doc

592
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,079
even have to gain by this?
Like Doc wasn't GM at the time.

593
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:44,079
It wasn't his call. No one's
pointing the finger at him, you know,

594
00:42:44,159 --> 00:42:46,119
Like I just I don't. I
don't understand shit like that, and

595
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:51,280
I it hurt. It hurts me
because like it was hard for me to

596
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,199
even like be on hearing with a
straight face. I think Doc is a

597
00:42:54,199 --> 00:42:59,519
good coach because I think some of
this stuff is like really taming all of

598
00:42:59,519 --> 00:43:04,400
his achief. Well, I think
that. I think he believes it's taining

599
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,719
his legacy and his achievements, and
that's why he's defending his record because there's

600
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:13,920
this perception about Doc Rivers now that
oh, he won with the Big Three

601
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,079
in Boston, but since then,
what has he done? He's no,

602
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,960
he keeps getting higher like that.
That clearly isn't the perception because the guy

603
00:43:22,039 --> 00:43:29,320
keeps getting jobs front offices versus media
perception and fan perception, I guess are

604
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,119
two different things in his mind.
And to be fair, he was just

605
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:37,079
in the media recently till taking this
job with the Milwaukee Bucks. I'm a

606
00:43:37,119 --> 00:43:42,360
little bit compromised on Doc because you
know, he was nice to me and

607
00:43:43,599 --> 00:43:49,639
I appreciate him and the way he
was able to navigate the situation in twenty

608
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fourteen with Donald Sterling in the first
round against ol Owen State Warriors twenty during

609
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the bubble, during the death of
Kobe Bryant. I love Doc Rivers as

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a man. His teams have come
up short at times on the playoffs,

611
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and there's something to be said to
that too. You just got to take

612
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everything into account and not just paint
someone as being one dimensional or only being

613
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this or that. Yeah, he's
a bad coach and he's a baton.

614
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I'm just kidding the thing. And
then last thing about JJ Reddick before we

615
00:44:27,639 --> 00:44:30,480
get some good news. The thing, I had one of those moments where

616
00:44:30,519 --> 00:44:35,760
like, the worst person you know
makes a good point. Nick Wright,

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who is not in my favorite sports
casters or broadcasters, he had a thing

618
00:44:43,599 --> 00:44:45,840
where he was like, why does
someone come into this space who doesn't need

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to come into this space? And
just kind of like shit on the whole

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thing. Because JJ Reddick had a
thing where he was like, yeah,

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you know, I can put out
I put out a YouTube video about Zion

622
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and how good his possessions are with
the Pals and it gets fifty six thousand

623
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views. But I go as a
coach and it gets millions of views,

624
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,480
So like, what does the viewer
want and you're like, first of all,

625
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:15,400
it's not groundbreaking that people like and
gravitate towards negative things like this isn't

626
00:45:15,519 --> 00:45:19,119
like you're in media, you know
how this works. And second of all,

627
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you can still make the content for
the fifty six thousand people that want

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to know more about Zion and his
and how he's affecting the Pelican Like it's

629
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,519
just this weird thing, and Adam, you brought this up. He brings

630
00:45:29,519 --> 00:45:35,639
on NBA twitterisms into the largest sports
outlet, so it's like you can't say

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00:45:35,679 --> 00:45:40,000
you hate NBA Twitter and all this
stuff and then also use their arguments on

632
00:45:40,119 --> 00:45:45,800
the show. I guess he's just
messy. He says he doesn't like NBA

633
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:52,320
Twitter. Yeah, Oh that's interesting
because he's definitely taken advantage and benefited from

634
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:57,159
it. He's not on Twitter much
other than when I see him put out

635
00:45:57,199 --> 00:46:00,119
the Old Man three podcast, which
is good, which I do appreciate it.

636
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:04,159
Just like Doc Rivers with what I
just said about him, there's a

637
00:46:04,199 --> 00:46:06,920
lot of gray. We're not all
one thing or the other. Same thing

638
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,440
goes with JJ Reddick. I love
the granular level he'll get into with the

639
00:46:10,559 --> 00:46:15,920
NBA and plays and he'll get into
the minute show and he'll get out into

640
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:21,440
the weeds a little bit and really
give you a different perspective and not oversimplify

641
00:46:21,559 --> 00:46:28,880
things like most of the talking heads
out there do. Actually I like Paul

642
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:35,239
George, but uh, they're both
great. I think he was going for

643
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,960
low hanging fruit with this doc stuff, knowing that it would get attention,

644
00:46:38,119 --> 00:46:43,159
and knowing that he has to play
the game to some extent if he wants

645
00:46:43,199 --> 00:46:46,119
to be on ESPEN next to Steven
A. Smith and next two Shinn and

646
00:46:46,159 --> 00:46:50,239
Sharp. That's just what it is. Game. Yeah, Like play the

647
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:54,000
game. Don't complain about the game
that you're actively playing and benefiting from,

648
00:46:54,480 --> 00:47:01,880
like well basketball starts. What's interesting
is you have guys in the media and

649
00:47:02,079 --> 00:47:10,800
NBA analysts on TNT constantly crucifying the
modern game and being wrong with their lack

650
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:16,639
of memory about how the old game
was often and misremembering how things were.

651
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:21,920
The Nostalgia's a hell of a drug
for those guys, and they love their

652
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,920
brand is sing on today's game and
saying how much tougher it was back then.

653
00:47:27,599 --> 00:47:31,480
I don't like that either. I
think JJ sometimes takes it too far

654
00:47:31,599 --> 00:47:36,480
with calling those guys plumbers. I
think it's somewhere in the middle, like

655
00:47:36,559 --> 00:47:42,000
most things are total, but all
these guys to some degree have an agenda.

656
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,280
It's unfortunate, and they have to
if they're going to get on that

657
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:51,480
platform. That's the real issue.
It's I heard Dan Levitzard go after Steven

658
00:47:51,519 --> 00:47:54,280
A. Smith the other day saying, you birth this hot take culture basically,

659
00:47:54,960 --> 00:48:01,079
and it's true. It's undeniable because
that is what gets ratings and that's

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00:48:01,119 --> 00:48:07,199
what gets viewership and then therefore advertising. So unfortunately, that's what this media

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00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:12,679
has become, or sports media.
I'm hoping there's a hot take bubble going

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00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:16,840
on where people are starting to tune
that out more and more because you know,

663
00:48:17,159 --> 00:48:22,039
it's just a show, it's just
hot air, and these guys really

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00:48:22,079 --> 00:48:25,880
don't stand behind what they say.
And that's why I like holding people accountable

665
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:30,159
for take sometimes because while they get
all the love on the front end of

666
00:48:30,199 --> 00:48:35,920
saying something outrageous or at least attention
maybe not love, love and hate,

667
00:48:36,599 --> 00:48:39,840
I want to make sure if that
doesn't come true, that they look like

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00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:45,280
fools afterwards. So I will often
post stuff from Kendrick Perkins because if there's

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00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:52,039
no accountability, there's a greater chance
they're going to continue to do this over

670
00:48:52,119 --> 00:48:55,880
and over again because nobody's checking them
on it. This is the dog peeing

671
00:48:55,960 --> 00:49:00,719
in the house, so you put
its face in the pe strategy. You

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00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:05,920
know, I didn't think of it
like that. I always think of that

673
00:49:06,039 --> 00:49:09,679
Dallas announcer who was so mad at
James Harden for absolutely no reason. The

674
00:49:09,679 --> 00:49:15,079
guy or whatever he was saying like
I can't grow up, but he ultimately

675
00:49:15,119 --> 00:49:20,159
wins, right, because we never
even knew about that guy before did that.

676
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,599
And I don't know his name now? Normal is his name? Normal?

677
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:29,599
I don't think that was the cat
and Garfield or it's a great one,

678
00:49:30,039 --> 00:49:36,840
all right, I know you're Garfield
with us here yea worst comic of

679
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,880
all time? Baby, all right, we're gonna we have a wholesome update

680
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:45,320
on the Zoo bobblehead. Win here. Starman Hoe, who wrote a touching

681
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:54,920
poem that referenced every fun little thing
we do, seeded the bobblehead to Alfonso

682
00:49:54,960 --> 00:50:00,400
Lopez. He gets the bobblehead.
A young Clips fan gets to to their

683
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:06,039
collection. They're kind of excited about
Zoo. Not the most we respect the

684
00:50:06,079 --> 00:50:12,840
real there's you know, we love
that Adam, where are you gonna get

685
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,440
what are you gonna pull the seats
on this kid? I hope it doesn't

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00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:20,000
get lost in the mail somehow.
Okay, No, we're not doing that.

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00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,880
It is a California address. So
Adam gets to save a couple couple

688
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:30,199
bucks, which is great. Yeah, we'll get that shipped out this week

689
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,320
and it should be to your door
soon. I think that about wraps up

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00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:36,519
this episode. Well are we doing
double taps? Where where can these people

691
00:50:36,519 --> 00:50:39,480
find us in these next couple of
days. Yeah, So with two games

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00:50:39,519 --> 00:50:45,000
coming up on the Backpacking catches on
AM five seventy after the games. If

693
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,440
it's a win, I'll probably be
on. If it's a loss, I

694
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:52,480
mean that's Chuck's domain. But you
can listen to this podcast wherever you get

695
00:50:52,519 --> 00:50:55,840
your podcast. If you happen to
listen or check us out over on Apple

696
00:50:55,880 --> 00:51:00,360
Podcasts or spotfy. He could leave
a little rate and review and help out.

697
00:51:00,039 --> 00:51:05,000
We'd love it if you. If
you want to get the whole extumes

698
00:51:05,039 --> 00:51:08,800
to the show, the full how
many senses are there? Six? Five?

699
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:15,480
Whatever? The full sensual experience with
dead People. Yeah, we're over

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00:51:15,519 --> 00:51:21,719
on YouTube. That's at Clippers Podcast
and we're online at Twitter dot com,

701
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:28,840
at Clippers Pod any time we're we're
surfing the net. Don't stay tasty waves.

702
00:51:29,079 --> 00:51:31,920
Yeah, we do this every episode. Some people's favorite thing. I

703
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:37,239
hope no one's least favorite thing.
Adam, let's get one positive thing after

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00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:42,280
this All Star break about the Clips. After six episodes, the new season

705
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,280
A True Detective is finally over and
my god, it was a mess.

706
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:50,280
Uh No, the Clippers are back, and James harden I talked about that

707
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,400
quote he gave Talat Murray earlier.
It sounds like this team is in the

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00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:58,679
right headspace, in the right mindset
for what they're about to embark on,

709
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,000
which is one of the most brutal
stretches maybe in the history of the regular

710
00:52:02,039 --> 00:52:08,360
season. Seventeen games in March coming
up, so it's going to take an

711
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:13,280
intense amount of focus for them to
get through this. And it all starts

712
00:52:13,679 --> 00:52:17,320
against OKAC. So I just like
the fact that they seem to know that

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00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:22,760
they have to ratchet things up now
stop with the bad turnovers, and they've

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00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:24,400
been pretty good in that area all
season long, but there was a little

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00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:28,880
bit of slippage at times heading into
the break, where you just saw some

716
00:52:29,079 --> 00:52:36,000
unforced, untimely or impromptu times,
turnovers in fourth quarters. The Clippers have

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00:52:36,079 --> 00:52:37,440
to be more sure with the basketball. The best thing he said was,

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00:52:38,079 --> 00:52:42,519
we can't beat ourselves if someone else
is going to beat us. You know,

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00:52:42,679 --> 00:52:44,719
as coach Lee would say, as
Lebron would say, you can live

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00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,000
with those results if you play your
best and you just got beat better,

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00:52:47,039 --> 00:52:52,360
better opponent. But the Clippers cannot
beat themselves. They cannot take themselves out

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00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:57,079
of the ball game because while their
margin for error is very wide right now,

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00:52:57,119 --> 00:53:00,159
with the talent they have against OKAC, against Minesota twice coming up,

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00:53:00,159 --> 00:53:05,119
against the Molukee Bucks twice coming up, they can't rely on that. Listen

725
00:53:05,199 --> 00:53:07,880
to what Kawhi Leonard has been saying, they've been getting by on talent.

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00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:12,960
They need to get by on execution. Talent comes afterwards. That could be

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00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,519
the difference maker eventually, if both
teams are executing at a very high level.

728
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,559
So I think the Clippers are ready
for this, and Mike Chuck said

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00:53:19,639 --> 00:53:22,639
they might go three to o these
next three games. Let's hope they do.

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00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:24,000
PJ. Tucker and Bones are back
with the team, so there's some

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00:53:24,039 --> 00:53:29,599
reinforcements. Everyone can be excited about
We will have the Double Dip for y'all

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00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,239
after the next two games, maybe
an episode on Saturday. We're getting it

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00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:36,840
figured out. Thank you everyone for
listening, thank you to everyone for watching

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over on YouTube, and as always, let's Go clips
