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All right, second out of the
program. Glad You're Widows, Dexas and

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Bros. Monday through Friday, sixth
till nine. Full question is out there

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for you. Is it time to
start questioning the iSER plan? It's okay.

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It doesn't mean you don't believe in
him. It doesn't take anything away

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from his greatness. It doesn't mean
that you don't admire him as a Hall

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of fame leader for the Red Wings
for decades and a winner of multiple Stanley

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Cups. We have certain idols in
sports, and if those idols aren't constantly

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living up to what we thought they
would be, doesn't mean that you no

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longer consider them an idol. Mine
was Alan Trammel. Loved watching him play.

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Used to go to Tiger Stadium with
my father and I would strictly watch

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Trammel all the time. That's all
I did, Like I wouldn't watch anybody

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else. I'm watching him, his
movements, all the things he did as

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he did them, and then I
would try to understand, and then I

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would do the same thing as a
kid. He became Tiger's manager and it

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was an utter failure. Tough situation, not great talent, but you get

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the point. Didn't mean that he
was no longer my idol. I had

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him as an idol as a player, not as a manager. I don't

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know many kids who grow up thinking
a certain manager is their idol. Gee,

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I want to be just like Gene
Mak. No, you don't.

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You're looking at the players, not
the managers. Steve Eiserman is one of

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the greatest Red Wings of all time. It's no doubt about that. You'd

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say he's top top five. I
mean, you look at Gordy Howe,

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you look at Nick Lidstrom, you
look at Ted Lindsay, look at Sergei

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Federov. Steve Eisman's in there,
all those names, and as a general

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manager he's widely respected and rightfully so
help him build what he did in Tampa,

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and that's a machine. For the
most part. It's been a while

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here in Detroit. If you think
that his plan is stalled or is off

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track, it's not a knock on
him as a player, or if you

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used to idolize him when he was
a player. Great GMS. I don't

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know if he's considered great, but
like I said, he's highly respected.

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Great GMS. Great coaches oftentimes get
questioned. You don't think people questioned Bill

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Belichick. Look at the situation at
the end of Tom Brady's career in New

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England. Absolutely people turned on Belichick
to a certain extent. You don't think

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people questioned Chuck Daly and Detroit Sparky
Anderson eventually went away from the Tigers.

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Bill Lejoy, who built that team, eventually went away from the Tigers.

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Dave Dombrowski, who built the Tigers, and then the Phillies were not right

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away, but I mean went to
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Phillies, he went away from the
Tiger. It's going to happen. So

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please don't feel like, oh my
gosh, my loyalty is to iserim In

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because of all the great memories he
gave me when he played and captained this

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team. I'm asking you to look
at things objectively, and I'm asking you

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do you think his plan is something
you can still buy into? And part

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of that is The Red Wings yesterday
signed Tyler Mott, a twenty nine year

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old who played at the University of
Michigan. Played for the national team development

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program, got a scholarship, went
to the University of Michigan, played three

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years there, drafted by the Chicago
Blackhawks in the fourth rout of the twenty

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thirteen raft. It took him a
year to get to the NHL, and

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when he did get there, he
played thirty three games. The next year.

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Next two years really up and down
a little bit. Traded to Columbus,

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Minimal success in Columbus, minimal success
in Vancouver, minimal success in Ottawa

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and with the Rangers and Tampa and
now he's in Detroit. It's a feel

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good moment because he's a Saint Clair, Michigan kid or guy. That's awesome.

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But where does he fit and how
much of this was expected? The

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plan many people thought in order to
get to the playoffs was to build something

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from within, sprinkling some veterans and
then, as he said, he didn't

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want it to be just a one
year deal. He wanted this to be

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sustainable. His goal, his expectation, was to build the Red Wings in

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this rebuild and keep them playoffs sustainable. Do you view that with their goalie

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situation and with now they're forwards,
see defensively, there's still a piece away

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at least one. You're not sold. Don't tell me you're sold on it.

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You're not there's no way that you're
looking at this team right now.

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And I'm not saying this is a
finished product. Okay, there's still time

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to make some changes, but as
of right now, because of the poll

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question, as of right now,
you're not sold on Ben Sharat and Eric

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Gustafson and Justin Hole and Olimda,
Jeff Petrie and most Cider. Defensively,

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I'm assuming Simon ed and soon it's
going to make the team that would be

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seven William Lagerson. I don't know, I'm not I'm not, I'm not

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positive on that, but it's it
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Offensively, your top six Larkin,
Raymond to brink It, Cain, Rasmussen,

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Comfort, it's the same six as
last year. And then you want

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depth. You've got cop Fabrey Voleno, Bergram, Christian Fisher just signed the

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one year deal. You need another
now, Tyler Mott. Is that the

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assumption? Is it going to be
Carter Maser, like Max Boltman just talked

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to us about from the athletic Is
it Marco Casper, is it Taro Hiroshi?

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I mean, I'm not sure who
who'll be, but that's that's that

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wasn't the plan that you thought it
was going to be, nor me we

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expected it's I wasn't gonna say Marcia
so or Stamkos or someone of that ilk,

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but don't kid yourself. You did
expect more than what you have right

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now. So that's the reason I
ask about the iSER plan. And you

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could vote as an officials like on
Twitter on x follows on ex'es and bros.

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So it's to me. And I
know a lot of people don't get

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into talking a lot about hockey.
I understand that, but I do believe

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there's something to be said about Eisaman
and his vision for this team. I

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think we're coming up on a huge
formative year for the Wings. And the

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reason I say that is because shep
you talk about this team largely standing pat

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even that last trade. That line, right, I mean, the wheels

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kind of came off when Larkin got
hurt and everyone looked at Eiserman and to

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his credit, there's two ways to
look at it. He didn't really panic,

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he didn't make too many moves or
anything like that. But that's when

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the wheels came off. Other than
that, the team was a playoff team

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for the most most of the last
season, so I think this is really

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going to tell a lot about the
iSER plan as we call it this season.

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Yeah, I'm hoping. Look,
we all want young players to make

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the next step. So if Jonathan
Bergan can make that next step, do

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we even is this even a discussion? I mean, here's a guy who

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last year in Grand Rapids had over
a point a game in twenty four goals

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in fifty three games, fifty six
points overall, and he was on the

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plus side of things. That's pretty
damn good, right, You'd like his

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power playing numbers to be up a
little bit, but I'm not sure how

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much he played on the power play. Carter Mazer didn't have mad offensive skills.

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Marco Casper didn't have mad offensive skills
either, So if they're not doing

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it at the AHL level, can
you really expect him to contribute a ton

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at the NHL level? In other
words, they're bottom six forwards. The

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hope was that you were going to
get a top six forward. Well,

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my question would be who are they
filling in for? Is it instead of

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Comfort? Is it instead of Rasmussen? Is it instead of Kine? I

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haven't seen it, Thus wondering whether
or not you're buying in still on the

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just saw somebody tweet something out not
too long ago. They said, this

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was less than two years ago.
How did he fall off a cliff so

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fast? It was in regards to
Ryan McNeil of the New York Mets and

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how he has fallen so quickly.
But he was representing Team USA in the

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World Baseball Classic. And what I
say, Ryan mc mean, Jeff McNeil,

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I'm sorry. Jeff McNeil is now
hitting just two sixty seven for New

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York and people are wondering, you
know, what the hell happened to a

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guy who was a three hundred hitter
regularly. Just a couple of years ago,

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hitting three twenty six, right,
did he not win a batting title?

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I thought he won a batting title. Did Jeff McNeil win a batting

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title? I thought he did.
I'll check on that. Yeah, I'm

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gonna have to look that up.
I thought he did. For the Mets

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guy who got on basin off a
lot. He did. He won it

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in twenty twenty two where he was
an All Star. So just a couple

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of years ago. We were just
talking about Tim Anderson and how it's fallen

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off for Tim am And I know, hitting is hard, it's really difficult.

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And you follow social media, you
follow certain sports gurus if you will,

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or people who put up different sports
posts. And there was a story

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about a guy who is caddying for
a scratch golfer and another guy who was

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on and off on tour and some
of the going through their round a little

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bit and just mentioning golf is really
hard. Hitting is really hard. Hitting

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a baseball is exceptionally difficult. Tim
Anderson and Jeff McNeil are two guys who

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were at the pinnacle of their careers
not long ago, and now they are

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struggling now. McNeil hasn't been released, Anderson has by Miami. How does

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it leave you so quickly? It's
not like you're super old. As I

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said earlier, Tim Anderson's thirty one
years old. Jeff McNeil's thirty two years

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old. It's funny, I said, Ryan McNeil. You know who Ryan

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McNeil is, right, Ryan McNeill's
the former Lions cornerback who played at Miami.

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Oh boy, Yeah, And I
believe I believe you can correct me

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if I'm wrong here. I believe
he was a first round pick. I

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remember when that took place. You're
like, this is awesome way to go

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anyway, that just caught my eye. So twenty three after the hour,

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just to put a rap on the
Red Wings discussion, we were talking about

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what they you know, our poll
question, the iSER plan. Are you

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out? When you read some of
these articles on again, there's still time

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in free agency. Names are falling
by the wayside, but there are time.

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There's still time in free agency,
and there's times to make a move.

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So it's hard to judge somebody's off
season when the off season isn't complete

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yet. But as of right now, it's been a little disappointing. Read

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this in the Athletic. This is
a national perspective, not Max Boltman.

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They had winners and losers of free
agency, and among the losers red Wings.

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And here's what they write. The
off season is far from over.

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It's gotten off to an underwhelming start. See that's well put. It's not

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that it's been a massive disappointment.
It's just been underwhelming. I've never been

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one of those guys who believes it's
Oh, it's got to be about the

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big name. Sometimes the name of
the guy who you bring in fits a

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specific role and completes a specific need. I'm okay with that. In other

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words, I don't mind role players. And perhaps that's what Steve Eisman has

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done. Cam Talbot probably would he
be there. One goalie, we'll see,

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he's got to win it. But
when you think of great goalies in

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the NHL right now, you don't, Sorry, you don't think of Cam

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Talbot, Tyler Mott again, a
secondary piece, Gustafson kind of a secondary

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piece. But if they fit that
role, if it's exactly what you needed.

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You needed a stabilizing force with most
cider, you needed a stabilizing force.

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Now that you've lost Gosta Spear on
the power play. You needed a

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back six forward who plays with some
sandpaper. Okay, I mean if those

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are your guys and that's what you
felt you need and you addressed it,

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I'm cool with that. It doesn't
have to be the big name with the

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big contract associated with that big name. Anyway. The Athletic Rights that Jake

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Woman contract dump was an misstep,
but one that could be forgotten with the

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right corresponding moves. That explains why
management needed to open up the cap space.

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Those moves haven't happened yet. There
you go. Those two sentences are

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perfectly placed. It continues Detroit missed
out on free agents like Matt Roy he

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signed that six year deal in Washington, who could have elevated its blue line

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after a Subtracting woman Eric Gustafson in
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move. Extending Patrick Kaine should give
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a full, healthy offseason to train, but management has yet to identify a

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David Peran replacement back in goal.
The camp. Talbot's signing crowds decrease unless

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the plan is to move out one
of the existing contracts. Red Wings showed

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so much promise last season. Management
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and build on it. There's still
a lot of time to make that happen,

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but maybe it's time to start questioning. The eyes are planned. You

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know what that says to me,
shep I think, whoever wrote this article,

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you said, it's the athletic.
Yeah, it's it's the it's the

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athletic. It's a national perspective,
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looking in, I think people understand
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on the they're on the porch.
You know, they're ready to make a

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run. And like I said earlier, they were firmly in playoff position last

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season before Larkin got hurt. So
to push back, for lack of a

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better term, I think running it
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guys stay healthy and hoping most Cider
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I don't think that's a bad plan
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results of the poll question are.
I am too. I don't like the

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plan. I don't like the let's
hope. I want proven pieces a couple

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of years ago was to brink it. I'm not saying you need in another

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Alex to brink it. And if
you just filled in the David Peran absence,

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are you back to where you were
a year ago. I want somebody

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who's going to be a difference maker. If you don't feel like it's needed

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offensively, that's fine, because as
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Mazer, Maybe it's a Marco Casper
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that. I kind of like their
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six. My issue is defensively,
I don't think I don't think any of

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us, and if you're not going
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have some really good defensive I don't
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what they have defensively. Now.
Is there a trade coming for a guy

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like Jacob Truba, for example,
That's great. That's why to a certain

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I'm a little concerned right now,
or I'm a little confused and underwhelmed,

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Texas and Bros. Monday through Friday from

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rated to twenty one thousand. Trent
Bally is our producer good stuff. Even

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though the Tigers lost last night five
to three, Trek Schouble was quote end

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quote good enough to win. But
you see the margin for error. I

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guess this is really true in any
sport. And we'll get to some football

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here in a moment, but you
see the margin for error tied to three.

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Will Vest comes in for Terrek's school
in case you didn't see the game,

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will Ves comes in Byron Buxton hits
a center cut fastball, right field,

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ground rule double. Dude's fast as
hell, right, so that guy's

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board. Will Vest wild pitch gets
into third. Now, now you're back

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on your heels, right ground balled
a second. You know what's gonna be

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bang bang, So you got to
make sure that you know exactly what you're

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doing. So I love about the
game of baseball. Think ahead, Cole

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Keith thinks ahead. You know you
gotta it's got to be a good throw

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to get buston. He's going to
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is slightly up the first base line. Buxton head first slide, four to

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three. Minnesota. They win five
to three, and they've got a really

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good bullpen. That is the slimmest
of margins. It's a middle middle fastball

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mistake. It's another mistake on a
wild pitch that cannot happen. And then

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it's a slight mistake by your second
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plate and you end up losing the
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I know there are people who get
a little annoyed with me because oftentimes

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I start the show with baseball.
Guess what we're in July. I could

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talk about Novak Djokovic winning his first
round match at Wimbledon for the seventieth consecutive

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time if he wanted me to,
which is a new record. But I

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don't think you're going to get engaged
in that regard. I think the people

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that get upset that you're talking baseball
are just frustrated with the Tigers and they're

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projecting that, and I guess I
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would just say, look, we're
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here where the Tigers are going to
be sellers. Yet again, this is

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it's big stuff. Let me ask
you this, just off the top of

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your head, how many teams are
further back of their division leader than the

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Tigers? Go? I would guess
two or three? Four? Only four?

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The White Sox obviously, the Washington
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Rockies. It's relatively happened in a
hurry too, that escalated quickly. It

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would be a very appropriate drop right
now from Will Ferrell in wedding crashers,

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or I mean, excuse me,
from Will Ferrell in Anchorman. That escalated

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quickly. Yeah, folks, they
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It's over. There's no miracle being
pulled out of this. And please stop,

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I mean, don't be a writer
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still within striking distance. They're aid
games back of the wild Card. They

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and the Angels who've lost too straight
to drop back to nine and a half

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back of the walker. I mean, they're not leap frog in Texas,

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in Toronto and Tampa and Houston and
Boston, they're not. So let's get

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that out of our heads. I'm
not telling you don't watch anymore baseball.

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I'm not telling you to not enjoy
going down to the ballpark. Who am

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I to tell you what to do
with your money and your time, especially

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since I like you spend my time
watching this team. So I'm not going

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to be a hypocrite. All I'm
telling you is, when you start watching

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it, take it for what it
is. Just enjoy the game of baseball.

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I'd love to be proven wrong.
I'd love for them to go.

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You know what, screw you,
August in September, we're kicking everybody's ass.

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Good for you. I would love
that it's not going to happen.

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It's really sad that before the fourth
of July holiday baseball is over again in

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this town and in this state.
Although those of you listening on you know,

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Doug Max ninety six point ONEFM,
the game, don't mind tapping into

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the Chicago market a little bit.
That's cool. It's over for you too.

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White Sox are the worst team in
baseball, and the Cubs are last

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in their division. They're further back
in their division. We're almost as almost

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as far back, excuse me,
in their division. The Tigers are in

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theirs. At least you could have
a conversation that the Cubs are alive in

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the wild card and not be embarrassed
by it because you're five and a half

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out. But it's really too bad. And it's too bad because they've relied

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so heavily on Derek's school in Detroit, and unfortunately, even though he threw

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well and was better than the final
result would be and he didn't get a

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loss, it was a no decision. That's what you have to look forward

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to. It forces you to look
forward to football season. So the NFC

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North race, we know the lions
of the defending champions. We know the

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Packers are a legitimate threat, and
if you didn't believe that, all you

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have to do is ask Dallas fans
when they went in there and mop them

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with the floor. Haymaker after haymaker, gut punch after gut punch, right,

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cross left, cross right, jab
left Jeb. They beat the snot

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out of Dallas. Chicago's defense very
good, and they've done nothing but improve

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themselves in the offseason. So how
do you win it? What do you

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need to do? Here's what cbosports
dot com writes about these teams and specifically

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the key players with those teams.
Now, I don't like the way they

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described the division in the sense that
the Lions pounced on the power vacuum left

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in the NFC North by Aaron Rodgers
departing Green Bay. That's bull crap,

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right. The Packers went nine to
eight in his final season and missed the

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playoffs. Lions centim packing as everyone
remembers, thank you. Let's do a

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little research and make sure we're clear
before we write a sentence like that.

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And I don't want to be too
sensitive. Maybe I get too sensitive when

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it comes to this stuff. I
think you're spot on Shep, you know

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what I'm saying. I mean,
look, you finally win a division.

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Yeah, first time you win the
NFC North in the history of the division,

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and a national publication says it's because
there was a vacuum left by Aaron

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Rodgers. Yeah. I mean,
come on, like, at what point

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are we going to preach trust?
I mean, the Lions have earned this.

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I have earned the right to be
plus one fifty to win the NFC

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North. Pretty decent favorites, Packers
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sixty five, Vikings bringing up the
rear plus thousand. But Shep, maybe

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this is a bit of a different
discussion. I think it is a pretty

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interesting division too, because the quote
unquote least favorite the Vikings. They've got

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the best player in the division of
Justin Jeffers. You've got Jordan Love who's

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maybe due for an extension. You've
got rookie Caleb Williams, and the Bears

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have really bolstered that offense. There's
work cut out for the Lions. But

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I think to your point, they
have earned the trust and the respect to

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be the favorites and there's no vacuum
about it. I'm still thinking about that

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that's a great point. Minnesota has
the best player in the division. Huh.

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I mean it's almost reminiscent of when
the Lions said Megatron in his prime,

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you were bringing up the rear a
lot of those years, winning four

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or five games. I got the
best play like that. I never looked

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at it like that. My mind
immediately went, is he the best player

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in the conference. I guess Christian
McCaffrey would probably take that role right top

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three, though, I would say, oh, absolutely, skill position.

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And I know I don't love the
term skill position either. I know you

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are the same way because it kind
of minimizes offensive linemen but defensive weapons.

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Justin Jefferson's top three every fantasy league
in America. And I'm not saying fantasy

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is gospel, but Justin Jefferson will
be a top three pick across the board

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in every league. Absolutely, he'd
be. I'd be surprised if he's not

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number one. I mean, Jamar
Chase perhaps, I think the only cause

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for pause would be his quarterback situation. Right, So who would it be?

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I'm not a fantasy footballer. Would
McCaffrey be part of that? Yeah,

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he'd be up there for sure.
Who would be the other. If

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you say Jefferson's a top three,
who would be the other? If McCaffrey

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is a top three, Jefferson's a
top three, who's the third of the

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top three. I think Tyreek Hill's
got to be up there, okay,

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just because of volume. I mean
he's coming offense one of the best receiving

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seasons ever. Yeah, it makes
a lot of sense. It's a good

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way to look at it. Didn't
think about that with Jefferson. But the

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overriding point to me was, you
know, that first sentence made me go,

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wait, I'm gonna be honest as
a fan, I read that and

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I said out loud, screw you. Not cool? Okay, but either

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way, you know, let's try
to give him some props. At twelve

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and five, first title since ninety
three when they won the NFC Central.

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All right, Chicago appears to have
that bright future. We talked about Jordan

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Love with Green Bay Minnesota with Jefferson, as you mentioned, Jordan Addison's good

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player. TJ. Hockinson's a hell
of a player, hell of a hell

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of a tight end. Anyway,
Aaron Jones, They've got, you know,

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there's some good players right there.
Man, anyway, So for Detroit,

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here's what they write. The Lions
had a top five scoring offense per

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game, fifth best in the NFL, and Detroit did what it had to

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do to keep that band together this
offseason. Makes sense to keep that band

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together, don't you think? Absolutely? Specifically that offensive line. They kind

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of bolstered that up with Zeitler as
well, who was recently regarded as a

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top five interior offensive lineman, which
surprised me a little bit. You know,

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like everybody, when when you think
of certain players or certain positions you

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think of for me, on the
inside, it's always been Zach Martin,

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right, I mean, he's he's
the guy inside that makes you go,

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I feel really comfortable with this guy
being there. To me, this is

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just my opinion. Well, and
we all we've talked about the tackles,

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right, I mean, obviously Penny
Seule is one of the best, if

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not the best, there is.
But if you look at it, if

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you look at interior offensive linemen,
if you got Trent Williams on the outside,

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you got pennies on the outside,
who are the guys on the inside.

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One of those guys is Kevin Zeidler, which is that's a great deal,

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great signing. So you got him. But before that, Ben Johnson

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said he was coming back even though
he was a finalist for the Washington commander's

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job that went to Dan Quinn.
You keep your general manager Brad Holmes,

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You keep your head coach, Dan
Campbell. You resign your que Jared Goff.

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You bump I'm on, I'm on
Saint Brown to the highest contract at

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the time for a wide receiver.
It's been surpassed since you make Penny Suwel

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happy. He's the highest paid offensive
lineman in average per year, at the

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top of the market. You've situated
yourself for long term success. Overhauled the

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secondary two schep. I think that
was the biggest concern, the biggest weakness

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with the team last season. They
overhauled that thing by far the biggest concern.

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I would say if you if you
had a concern about the Lions,

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and rightfully so, because they fell
short. You know, they didn't they

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didn't get to the Super Bowl,
they didn't win the Super Bowl. You're

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losing the NFC championship game. What
was the reason for it? Secondary past

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events? That would be the number
one concern. The second concern would be

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a pass rush opposite Aiden Hutchinson,
and the third would be am I going

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to lose Ben Johnson. I think
those were all legitimate concerns. I'm not

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saying lack of a consistent kicker wasn't
one, but it wasn't a top three

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concern. In the top three,
the top three you brought up, they

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addressed every single one of those.
Mm hm. Now let me just say

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this, and I think you would
agree with me on this, Trent,

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if you're going to address that secondary
you and I feel like they have Carlton

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Davis good player, right, I
still need to be shown that because I

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don't know if Terry on Arnold is
all he's they say he's going to be.

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How many times have we seen a
cornerback drafted highly and not live up

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to the hype. Hi, Jeff
Akuda, I was just gonna say,

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plug your ears, Lions fans.
It was four years ago that Jeff Akuda

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picked third overall and was terrible.
Right, Terry Fair was a first round

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pick. This is a long time
ago. Terry Fair was a first round

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draft pick. It was later in
the first round, but he was still

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a first round pick, right around
where Terry on Arnold was. I think

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Terry Fair was right around like eighteen
to twenty three, somewhere in that neighborhood.

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You can look that up for me. And he was drafted head of

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Randy Moss. He was a better
return guy than he was a cornerback.

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So I'm just bringing up Lions corners. We can go a little bit deeper

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into some of the NFL cornerbacks if
we wanted to. But I'm telling you

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right now, as much as you
like it, and I like it too,

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all right. I like the draft
picks. I like Rekestraw in the

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second round. I like Arnold in
the first round. I'm all for that.

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All I'm telling you is, we
say it has been I don't know.

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We say it's been addressed, and
I've said it, but you still

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have to be convinced because it is
a very difficult transition to that point.

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Sheef. I mean, they thought
they addressed it last season bringing in Cam

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Sutton Emmanuel Moseley who went down exactly. So it's never a sure thing until

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it's proven. That's a great point. But I do think the Lions feel

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a lot better about where they're at
in the defensive backfield. Just imagine if

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Aaron Glenn had this secondary in the
third quarter of the NFC Championship game against

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the Niners. Right, there was
a time, I know we got to

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hit a break. I remember a
kid coming out of Alabama. His name

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is Dean Milner. Do you remember
him. He was twenty thirteen. Yes,

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he was drafted by the Jets.
I believe he was a top ten

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pick. He didn't do squat.
He was terrible. Bruce Pickens was a

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third overall pick in nineteen ninety one
by the Atlanta Falcons. He didn't do

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squat. He was terrible. Quick
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