WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:10.880 Release the Lord and Miller solo movie, you cowards. Yeah if if you 2 00:00:11.080 --> 00:00:15.400 listeners at home, don't recall Goo and I talk about this every so often. 3 00:00:15.880 --> 00:00:22.640 The original directors for the Hans Solo solo movie Solo that came out what 4 00:00:22.719 --> 00:00:27.199 twenty seventeen, I think I believe either twenty seventeen or twenty eighteen, don't 5 00:00:27.359 --> 00:00:31.640 quote me. It ended up being pretty okay. It was fine. I 6 00:00:31.640 --> 00:00:34.920 don't mind that movie. Yeah, yeah, very safe. But the original 7 00:00:34.960 --> 00:00:38.560 directors for that movie were Phil Lord and Christopher Miller, who have done nothing 8 00:00:38.600 --> 00:00:41.640 but greatness for the last six, seven, eight, nine, ten years, 9 00:00:41.960 --> 00:00:45.159 going all the way back to the Lego movie, and seem like the 10 00:00:45.359 --> 00:00:51.520 perfect writers and directors for a movie for Hans Solo and Buddy movie Yep, 11 00:00:51.960 --> 00:00:57.000 yep. And what happened is they had creative disagreements with the heads of Star 12 00:00:57.039 --> 00:01:00.200 Wars, I e. Kathleen Kennedy and Dave Filoni, and so they got 13 00:01:00.200 --> 00:01:03.680 fired. I think that it was a I think they parted ways mutually. 14 00:01:04.200 --> 00:01:08.200 They were more than halfway through production, yep. And then they brought in 15 00:01:08.280 --> 00:01:12.480 Ron Howard to salvage or reshoot everything, and again it was fine. But 16 00:01:12.599 --> 00:01:17.359 I think now Every day that we get away from that movie, one more 17 00:01:17.439 --> 00:01:21.239 day removed, is the more regret and the more desire we have to see 18 00:01:21.280 --> 00:01:38.000 a Lord and Miller on solo movie one. Yeah, just three King of 19 00:01:38.120 --> 00:01:48.400 Queen and Meryl Street Entertainment, and I'm Mac and we are the Mac and 20 00:01:48.439 --> 00:01:56.079 Good Program. We bring you universal friendship, multiversal multiversal friendship, that's for 21 00:01:56.120 --> 00:02:00.120 sure. Yeah, a little bit of multiversal love today too. I don't 22 00:02:00.319 --> 00:02:05.879 I don't know if I'm ready for that. Oh no, not gonna cross 23 00:02:05.879 --> 00:02:09.080 your streams there. Yep. Today, Goo, we are discussing Spider Man 24 00:02:09.560 --> 00:02:15.639 Across the Spider Verse. This is the sequel to two thousand and eighteens Spider 25 00:02:15.639 --> 00:02:19.000 Man Into the Spider Verse. That's right. It's been five long years, 26 00:02:19.039 --> 00:02:22.639 four and a half long years since we saw the first movie. This was 27 00:02:22.680 --> 00:02:24.599 set to come out in December of last year. It got bumped six months. 28 00:02:25.520 --> 00:02:30.639 A very long awaited sequel. Go. This is a rated PG animated 29 00:02:30.680 --> 00:02:34.199 action adventure, comedy, family side, fantasy, and sci fi. It 30 00:02:34.319 --> 00:02:37.719 fulfills all of those things too, as far as you can go. Pretty 31 00:02:37.800 --> 00:02:40.719 much. Run time of one hundred and forty minutes. I think that's about 32 00:02:40.719 --> 00:02:46.039 twenty five minutes longer than the first one, and it doesn't it doesn't feel 33 00:02:46.080 --> 00:02:49.039 long. So you're not at all bored at any point during this movie. 34 00:02:49.120 --> 00:02:52.199 But towards the end, you know, it's sort of towards the end, 35 00:02:52.240 --> 00:02:53.319 you feel like there's a lot to happen. You're like, I don't really 36 00:02:53.360 --> 00:02:58.159 know what's going to happen here, And so we get a sequel. We 37 00:02:58.159 --> 00:03:00.719 get a sequel to the sequel, a three quel. But this movie. 38 00:03:00.800 --> 00:03:04.439 Goo, what a lot of people said about the first one, I think 39 00:03:04.560 --> 00:03:08.840 this movie greater than Yes, I would say that going into the first one, 40 00:03:08.960 --> 00:03:14.039 I feel like the first one surprised a ton of people, and you 41 00:03:14.080 --> 00:03:17.599 know, just exceeded expectations. This one, you are going into it with 42 00:03:17.719 --> 00:03:23.800 high expectations and they exceed those expectations. Yeah. And I think the first 43 00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:28.080 one is such a unique move that we had never seen anything like that before, 44 00:03:28.120 --> 00:03:30.479 so it gets a lot of credit for that. Again, I personally 45 00:03:30.520 --> 00:03:34.800 given a lot of credit for like roping me into an animated movie with different 46 00:03:34.800 --> 00:03:38.520 animation styles I had never really seen before that most people had never really seen 47 00:03:38.560 --> 00:03:40.680 before, And this movie does that, and then some they introduce even new 48 00:03:40.719 --> 00:03:46.520 animation styles, which is amazing goo on Rotten Tomatoes currently ninety four percent from 49 00:03:46.520 --> 00:03:51.599 the critics through sixty six reviews. The first one got ninety seven, so 50 00:03:51.639 --> 00:03:53.560 it seems like this is going to fall short of the critical reviews, which 51 00:03:53.599 --> 00:03:59.039 is very surprising. Not that surprising to me. The first one was easier 52 00:03:59.080 --> 00:04:02.360 to consume, a little bit uh tidier of a story. This one is 53 00:04:02.400 --> 00:04:08.199 a bit longer, and maybe if you're saying, is this a kids movie, 54 00:04:08.479 --> 00:04:13.879 it definitely does lend itself to being four a little bit older kids, 55 00:04:13.919 --> 00:04:17.920 but also over two hours on a movie you are playing with fire there, 56 00:04:18.000 --> 00:04:20.959 Yeah, two hours, twenty minutes. On Metacritic, it has an eighty 57 00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:25.439 seven after fifty reviews. The first one also got an eighty eighty seven, 58 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:29.560 so they're saying on par roughly. The audience score on Rotten Tomatoes for the 59 00:04:29.560 --> 00:04:31.920 first one was nine. This one is going to be higher than that. 60 00:04:31.959 --> 00:04:38.879 This might be well, I don't count audience score anymore because everyone has just 61 00:04:38.959 --> 00:04:44.839 lost their minds fair enough, but I feel like the audience is absolutely gonna 62 00:04:44.879 --> 00:04:46.360 like this. Oh but also hear me out, I don't care about the 63 00:04:46.360 --> 00:04:50.279 critics one anymore either, I don't. I don't care about Rotten Tomatoes. 64 00:04:50.279 --> 00:04:55.399 And I forget who said this, but what you want to do when you're 65 00:04:55.439 --> 00:05:00.839 looking for film reviews movie reviews, don't look at the aggregate of Rotten Tomatoes. 66 00:05:01.519 --> 00:05:05.279 Know who you like as a movie reviewer, as a critic, and 67 00:05:05.360 --> 00:05:10.160 just listen to that one person, listen to a handful of people. Don't 68 00:05:10.240 --> 00:05:13.560 be a slave to the tomatoes. Yeah, I mean, in general, 69 00:05:13.600 --> 00:05:16.759 I think we can all agree to that. I just think Rotten Tomatoes as 70 00:05:16.839 --> 00:05:19.759 much Mack says that, and he's just eating a tomato right now. If 71 00:05:19.759 --> 00:05:24.839 you're listening to the audio, Mac is just gnawbing on tomatoes right now. 72 00:05:25.000 --> 00:05:28.959 In general, it's a it's a decent little look into how people are viewing. 73 00:05:29.000 --> 00:05:30.399 No, it's not the Yeah, I actually think it is. The 74 00:05:30.439 --> 00:05:34.399 one that's Metacritic is where it's at now, baby, I mean Metacritics is 75 00:05:34.439 --> 00:05:39.680 better. I think the one I would say to never use a cinema score. 76 00:05:39.720 --> 00:05:42.759 Everything's inn A, everything's an A, and then even the bad ones 77 00:05:42.759 --> 00:05:46.120 are still like CS, So never use cinema score. I still think rot 78 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:48.160 Actually I am dB is worse too. Rotten Tomatoes is still pretty good. 79 00:05:48.439 --> 00:05:53.639 If I could vote one thing off the show, besides you, it'd be 80 00:05:53.720 --> 00:05:57.040 rotten tomato score. Nah. I like Roddy well, then I guess you're 81 00:05:57.399 --> 00:06:00.480 here. The idea of Roddy Ts is just always going to be good. 82 00:06:00.639 --> 00:06:03.759 People just don't understand Roddy t. No, we understand rowdy, people don't. 83 00:06:04.279 --> 00:06:09.120 The people don't. Ninety four percent of the critics said they liked it. 84 00:06:09.160 --> 00:06:14.600 That's what ninety four means. People people goose. Speaking of this movie 85 00:06:14.639 --> 00:06:17.839 in our open here, this movie's written by Phil Lord, Christopher Miller, 86 00:06:18.040 --> 00:06:23.519 and Dave Callahan. And it is interesting the note here the first movie Christopher 87 00:06:23.519 --> 00:06:26.399 Miller does not have a writing credit on, and I don't know why that 88 00:06:26.560 --> 00:06:29.959 is. I don't think we ever really talked about that initially, So that's 89 00:06:29.959 --> 00:06:33.199 interesting. If you don't know Lord and Miller, which you should by now. 90 00:06:33.240 --> 00:06:36.160 They did Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs, the first and second one. 91 00:06:36.240 --> 00:06:40.560 They did both lego movies. Of course, they did into the Spider 92 00:06:40.680 --> 00:06:44.279 Verse. They also directed twenty one and twenty two Jump Street, which are 93 00:06:44.279 --> 00:06:47.639 two of the best comedies of last fifteen years. And other than the sequel 94 00:06:47.639 --> 00:06:51.680 to this movie, beyond the Spider Verse, the only thing upcoming for the 95 00:06:51.720 --> 00:06:58.600 two that you would know of is Christopher Miller has written the upcoming Robot Chicken 96 00:06:58.680 --> 00:07:01.759 movie. So that's that's pretty interesting. Are they working on Cloudy with a 97 00:07:01.839 --> 00:07:05.639 Chance of Three Balls? Oh, that's a nice title. You should pitch 98 00:07:05.680 --> 00:07:09.920 that, just pitched the title of Like, I know you guys haven't written 99 00:07:09.959 --> 00:07:13.040 anything for this movie, but you might have to. Now. They do 100 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:15.639 have three projects on IMDb that I've never heard of, so I didn't bother 101 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:18.759 giving them to you. Dude, Dave Callahan, We've talked about it a 102 00:07:18.800 --> 00:07:21.879 couple of times. What an interesting career this man has had. He is 103 00:07:21.920 --> 00:07:27.600 the writer from Doom, the Rock movie, The Expendables, Godzilla from twenty 104 00:07:27.600 --> 00:07:31.160 fourteen, zombieland Double Tap, Wonder Woman eighty four, the More Kombat movie 105 00:07:31.199 --> 00:07:35.560 that was two years ago, and shan Chi Shang Chi, and then of 106 00:07:35.600 --> 00:07:39.639 course now this movie. Was not a writer on the first movie either. 107 00:07:40.160 --> 00:07:44.240 I don't know why they brought him, brought him in just action pieces. 108 00:07:44.279 --> 00:07:46.040 I don't I don't know. I'll tell you what. It doesn't matter because 109 00:07:46.079 --> 00:07:49.480 the end result was great. Yeah, yeah, good, points good. 110 00:07:49.600 --> 00:07:55.040 This is directed by and this trio here is also directing the next movie Beyond 111 00:07:55.079 --> 00:07:58.879 the Spider Verse. Joaquim Do Santos. Prior to this, all he has 112 00:07:58.879 --> 00:08:01.600 done is TV stuff, but that does include Avatar, The Last Ambender, 113 00:08:01.839 --> 00:08:05.680 The Legend of Cora, and a bunch of DC animated cousin. Yes, 114 00:08:07.399 --> 00:08:13.279 he was also the executive producer on Cora and also that rebooted Vultron show Vultron 115 00:08:13.399 --> 00:08:18.160 Legendary Defender Kemp Powers. Goo was a co director on Soul from twenty twenty, 116 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:22.639 which I liked a decent amount but was not really you know, I'll 117 00:08:22.639 --> 00:08:26.959 probably never watch it again. He also wrote that movie and wrote One Night 118 00:08:26.000 --> 00:08:30.079 in Miami and then Justin K. Thompson Gou. This is his first ever 119 00:08:30.160 --> 00:08:35.039 directing credit, and all he had really done previously was a production designing role 120 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:37.919 or a part of the animation department. So it looks like he's one of 121 00:08:37.919 --> 00:08:41.679 the guys they're trying to work into as one of the next animated directors. 122 00:08:43.159 --> 00:08:46.639 Goo synopsis of this movie. It's a long one and I don't know if 123 00:08:46.679 --> 00:08:50.240 it's a good one. Miles Morales returns for the next chapter of the Oscar 124 00:08:50.279 --> 00:08:54.240 winning Spider Verse Saga, an epic adventure that will transport Brooklyn's full time friendly 125 00:08:54.279 --> 00:08:58.960 neighborhood Spider Man across the multiverse to join forces with Gwen Stacey and a new 126 00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:03.200 team of Spider People to face off of the villain more powerful than anything they 127 00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:09.320 have ever encountered. I guess not great. It suffices. It's it's mouthie, 128 00:09:09.360 --> 00:09:16.039 it's wordy. This movie stars Shamik Moore as Miles Morales, Hailey Steinfeld 129 00:09:16.120 --> 00:09:20.440 is Gwen Stacy, Oscar Isaac is Miguel O'Hara, Jake Johnson is Peter B. 130 00:09:20.639 --> 00:09:24.200 Parker is Sa Ray as Jessica, Drew Brian Tyree Henry as Jefferson Davis. 131 00:09:24.200 --> 00:09:30.600 That's Myles's father, Luna Lauren Valz as Real Morales. That's Miles's mother. 132 00:09:31.120 --> 00:09:35.080 Jason Schwarzman as the Spot. And then we also have lesser characters here. 133 00:09:35.440 --> 00:09:41.200 Daniel Kalua as Hobie Brown. He's Spiderpunk. Andy Sandberg is Ben Riley, 134 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:45.200 the Scarlet Spider. Karen Sony as Spider Man India. You would know 135 00:09:45.320 --> 00:09:50.240 him from the taxi driver from Deadpool, of course. Amandlus Stenberg is Margot 136 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:54.200 Kess. She's like the virtual Spider Bike girl. There we see in the 137 00:09:54.720 --> 00:10:01.039 Miguel O'Hara's planet Georma Taccone Goo as the tal An Adrian too Italian Vulture. 138 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:05.879 I feel seen such that was so good. I love that part so much. 139 00:10:07.200 --> 00:10:11.519 And then Shay Wigham as George Stacy, Gwen's father, so great job 140 00:10:11.559 --> 00:10:16.759 by the voicecast. They brought these characters to life, especially with the help 141 00:10:16.039 --> 00:10:22.879 of just the amazing animation. The animation in this movie is just gonna blow 142 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:26.639 you away. And it's true about the first one, but this movie, 143 00:10:26.679 --> 00:10:30.080 I feel like it's more emotional, So it rings true more about this one 144 00:10:30.679 --> 00:10:35.440 that the animation and the animation styles reflect the on screen emotions so well on 145 00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:39.960 this and that's especially true in Gwen Stacy's world, where Gwen Stacy's world almost 146 00:10:39.960 --> 00:10:43.600 looks like a watercolor painting at times. It's just it's truly, it's truly 147 00:10:43.639 --> 00:10:46.320 amazing some of the animation. And let me also ask you this question here, 148 00:10:46.360 --> 00:10:48.000 Matt, because I know that you're not as big of a fan of 149 00:10:48.080 --> 00:10:54.559 animation of cartoons. Did you find yourself getting lost and feeling like you weren't 150 00:10:54.559 --> 00:10:58.960 even watching an animated movie, like you were actually watching a live action movie. 151 00:11:00.159 --> 00:11:03.679 Yeah. I think the best animated movies take you out of the animation 152 00:11:03.840 --> 00:11:07.440 and make you feel like you're watching real human being characters, and I thought 153 00:11:07.480 --> 00:11:11.200 this did a great job at that. And that's the reason why I don't 154 00:11:11.240 --> 00:11:16.000 traditionally love animated movies is because I lack the empathy and emotion I'm supposed to 155 00:11:16.039 --> 00:11:18.559 have for the characters because they're not real. And this one I felt it. 156 00:11:18.600 --> 00:11:22.200 I felt the emotions. I had empathy for these characters. And that's 157 00:11:22.759 --> 00:11:26.080 that's a massive achievement for me, because for me, the first one, 158 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:31.000 I didn't necessarily feel that as good as the first one is. It's not 159 00:11:31.080 --> 00:11:35.840 quite as emotional. It's a little more um, it's more PG than this. 160 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:39.960 I think the first one reminds you that you're watching a cartoon. Often 161 00:11:39.240 --> 00:11:43.279 like they get into some slapsticky stuff that you would really only see in a 162 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:46.720 cartoon, and this one might have done that like once or twice, but 163 00:11:46.759 --> 00:11:50.159 it didn't do it as many times. This one is more of a film 164 00:11:50.360 --> 00:11:56.240 goods as opposed to a movie. As would say, but dude, this 165 00:11:56.279 --> 00:12:00.799 movie it's not only epic as we expected it to be more epic than the 166 00:12:00.840 --> 00:12:05.720 first one, but it's emotionable. It's emotional and relatable. Emotionable would have 167 00:12:05.720 --> 00:12:09.480 sufficed you just jam them together again. I have a hard time finding those 168 00:12:09.519 --> 00:12:13.840 two things true about any animated movie, So credit to this movie. And 169 00:12:13.919 --> 00:12:16.600 it does feel more serious and more consequential than the first movie. And that's 170 00:12:16.600 --> 00:12:20.360 in large part because we're already invested in Miles. We don't need to get 171 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:24.679 invested from him from the jump because we already are. And now we also 172 00:12:24.759 --> 00:12:28.320 are as equally invested in Gwen. And it's a good it's a one A, 173 00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:31.639 one B situation here, it's not a Batman in a Robin situation. 174 00:12:31.720 --> 00:12:33.279 And also you just mentioned this, and this is one of the reasons why 175 00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:37.279 I think this movie, Let's get it out of the way, is better 176 00:12:37.320 --> 00:12:43.200 than the first movie. And here we go. They're on the table right 177 00:12:43.240 --> 00:12:48.679 now. The best Spider Man movie that we have gotten so far is because 178 00:12:48.720 --> 00:12:52.360 we are not dealing with any of the backstory. We do get some for 179 00:12:52.480 --> 00:12:58.200 Gwen, but we just jump right into it from the get go, and 180 00:12:58.279 --> 00:13:01.720 it is from start to find. You know, there are different points of 181 00:13:01.759 --> 00:13:05.919 the movie where you might have more action here or more heartfelt story here, 182 00:13:05.320 --> 00:13:09.840 but just full two hours and twenty minutes is all great. Yeah, And 183 00:13:09.919 --> 00:13:13.399 I think you know, if we are comparing the first two, which is 184 00:13:13.399 --> 00:13:16.720 going to be a natural conversation after this movie. The first one was, 185 00:13:16.960 --> 00:13:20.440 like I said, maybe a little more PG. Obviously, it was incredibly 186 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:24.519 innovative and fun, but the comedy was probably also a little too reliant on 187 00:13:24.559 --> 00:13:30.240 Peter b. The comedy's more spread out in this one and throughout the film, 188 00:13:30.279 --> 00:13:33.600 not just in one moment, and of course, because they have to 189 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:37.759 intro everything and that first movie, it's a little slower going at first, 190 00:13:37.919 --> 00:13:39.759 and for me it was a little jarring seeing some of the new animation. 191 00:13:39.960 --> 00:13:43.519 But again I gotta give credit to it for roping me in for that. 192 00:13:43.960 --> 00:13:48.480 But this movie go across the Spider verse. I feel like it's funnier than 193 00:13:48.519 --> 00:13:50.960 the first one. More laugh out loud jokes and to your point, a 194 00:13:50.960 --> 00:13:56.519 little less hokey, more actual jokes in the dialogue instead of family guy style 195 00:13:56.600 --> 00:13:58.240 going out of your way to make a joke. Are you ready to get 196 00:13:58.240 --> 00:14:03.279 into the octa gone? Let's all right, Mac fun factor? How fun 197 00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:07.480 was this movie? And like I just said, I think the entire runtime, 198 00:14:07.879 --> 00:14:13.919 you're getting different kinds of fun. Where like you might get more dialogue 199 00:14:13.960 --> 00:14:16.799 driven fun, some more funny jokes at the beginning or leading into the third 200 00:14:16.840 --> 00:14:20.759 act and then you just have this great chase scene or this great action scene, 201 00:14:22.200 --> 00:14:24.159 and it hits on everything in this movie. Yeah, I agree, 202 00:14:24.279 --> 00:14:28.159 from start to finish, this movie is a blast from all sorts of characters 203 00:14:28.559 --> 00:14:31.879 in all sorts of moments. The first one did give us Peter B. 204 00:14:33.039 --> 00:14:35.799 Parker, who plays a more subdued role in this. You also got Spider 205 00:14:35.799 --> 00:14:39.600 Pig and Spider Man Noir. But I feel like in the first one the 206 00:14:41.080 --> 00:14:43.960 humor was reliant on those three characters, mostly Peter B. This one just 207 00:14:43.960 --> 00:14:48.120 feels more balanced and more fun through it. It's more situational in this movie 208 00:14:48.159 --> 00:14:50.879 too, Yes, for sure, for sure, satis factor and I feel 209 00:14:50.919 --> 00:14:54.440 like, you know, and we always talk about Empire, and you know, 210 00:14:54.799 --> 00:15:01.000 Part two's leading into part threes of like this did a great job of 211 00:15:01.799 --> 00:15:05.039 ending the first part of a two part movie. Yeah, naturally, because 212 00:15:05.080 --> 00:15:09.519 this is the middle part of a three part story of trilogy. There's some 213 00:15:09.559 --> 00:15:15.399 blue balls here in the conclusion, but I was certainly satisfied with how balls 214 00:15:15.440 --> 00:15:18.679 to the walls This was the whole time, So a lot of balls here 215 00:15:18.799 --> 00:15:24.399 going around barometer. Was there any tick of boar and so not for me? 216 00:15:24.720 --> 00:15:30.519 I'm gonna speak for maybe a commoner out there that I could see someone 217 00:15:30.639 --> 00:15:37.759 getting bored with the mumbo jumbowie aspects of the multiverse and the different you know, 218 00:15:37.159 --> 00:15:43.799 cannon events of Spider Man lives and all the different type of multiverse things, 219 00:15:43.799 --> 00:15:48.840 because I think people have multiverse fatigue. But I think this movie does 220 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:52.480 it so well that I didn't have any bore with it. Yeah. We 221 00:15:52.559 --> 00:15:56.639 talked about this when we were leaving the theater, about the superhero fatigue and 222 00:15:56.720 --> 00:16:00.360 multiverse fatigue, and I think what we sort of agreed upon here is that 223 00:16:00.399 --> 00:16:03.639 people are just lazy. The fatigue they have is not wanting to remember everything 224 00:16:03.720 --> 00:16:08.480 from a million different places, which I get to a certain extent, but 225 00:16:08.480 --> 00:16:11.879 at the same time, like you'll watch eight hundred hours of Laura in order 226 00:16:11.919 --> 00:16:17.080 or remember something from six hundred episodes ago. So I don't really buy all 227 00:16:17.080 --> 00:16:19.919 those all those nubs opinions on that. To me, I love if it's 228 00:16:19.919 --> 00:16:22.519 done well, you can't do anything better. Well, that's the whole thing 229 00:16:22.639 --> 00:16:26.440 is. I think the fatigue comes when you know, say, a hero 230 00:16:26.759 --> 00:16:30.559 or a story isn't done well and there isn't enough care taken in the writing 231 00:16:30.759 --> 00:16:34.720 or how the characters portrayed, or you know, enough good stuff in the 232 00:16:34.759 --> 00:16:38.440 story, and that's the reason why some of those lesser movies aren't remembered. 233 00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:44.279 But when someone does a great job, say Guardians three or this movie, 234 00:16:45.080 --> 00:16:48.120 there's no fatigue here. Well, I think that's two different things. Though. 235 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:49.879 I think if a movie is just not good, not great, then 236 00:16:49.919 --> 00:16:55.399 I'm aware of that. But people blame superhero fatigue on that. Yes, 237 00:16:55.600 --> 00:16:57.679 I think, yeah, they're blaming the fatigue on something that's not fatigue at 238 00:16:57.679 --> 00:17:02.840 all. It's just missus. There's just bad. Yeah, those are middling 239 00:17:02.879 --> 00:17:06.000 movies, yes, correct agree? All right, Mac Aquator is it better 240 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:11.640 than an Aquaman? It is clearly clearly above it. Halloween is it's gonna 241 00:17:11.680 --> 00:17:15.000 wane over time for you? And I guess there's nowhere to go but down. 242 00:17:15.960 --> 00:17:19.960 Uh yeah, I don't know. I don't know, it'll be it'll 243 00:17:19.960 --> 00:17:22.920 be. I actually want to rewatch this already because I wasn't looking for Easter 244 00:17:22.960 --> 00:17:26.759 eggs first time through, so I want to do a rewatch just for that 245 00:17:26.839 --> 00:17:32.400 only. But nothing yet, no weaning yet. Pants Tent City, Excite, 246 00:17:32.480 --> 00:17:36.000 bike Mania, what got you going? And there were a cup of 247 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:41.000 two tree, great action great chase scenes that we really haven't seen anything like 248 00:17:41.240 --> 00:17:45.599 in a movie theater, you know, really having to do with the animation, 249 00:17:45.680 --> 00:17:49.240 and also just what they can do with Spider Man in an animated world 250 00:17:49.880 --> 00:17:55.720 that just jump off the screen to you. We were anticipating a couple of 251 00:17:55.799 --> 00:18:00.319 great surprises in this Cup of Two Tree, and besides those the ones we 252 00:18:00.400 --> 00:18:04.160 anticipated, we got a couple of great surprises and that was real great pants 253 00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:07.960 tent moments. Also, like you said, awesome action. And there was 254 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:12.240 a joke in here that made both of us laugh for two minutes each that 255 00:18:12.359 --> 00:18:17.039 really wasn't even like the greatest joke, No one laugh besides us, right, 256 00:18:17.240 --> 00:18:21.400 so perfectly timed and perfectly done. You and I giggled for two minutes 257 00:18:21.440 --> 00:18:25.400 straight. I also love the fact that, once again, even though it 258 00:18:25.480 --> 00:18:30.960 is an animated movie and I respect animated movies, you don't you you felt 259 00:18:32.039 --> 00:18:36.880 something with Miles and Gwenn, with Miles and Gwen and Miles and his parents 260 00:18:37.119 --> 00:18:41.319 and let it end her dad, Yeah, you felt all of it, 261 00:18:41.400 --> 00:18:47.799 agreed, Max. Credit Union. I'm giving it to Lord and Miller and 262 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:52.039 the animators. Yeah, I'll give it to everyone for everything all at once. 263 00:18:52.319 --> 00:18:56.039 It's everyone deserves everything. For this movie. They nailed the animation. 264 00:18:56.160 --> 00:19:00.319 The soundtrack was great, the voice acting was great, the joke to was 265 00:19:00.359 --> 00:19:03.440 great. Everything in this movie is great. Hot dog Man, Hot dog 266 00:19:03.519 --> 00:19:07.160 Man, Hot Dog Can For those of you tardy to the Mac and Goop 267 00:19:07.200 --> 00:19:11.359 party, we rate everything on a forty hot dog rating system. Mac, 268 00:19:11.440 --> 00:19:17.079 I shall let you go first. Oh wow, Oh you're receiving in the 269 00:19:17.319 --> 00:19:22.880 second half there, okay goo. This movie is the story about the anomalies 270 00:19:23.240 --> 00:19:27.400 and how they stand out, how they need to be contained, how Miles 271 00:19:27.440 --> 00:19:30.519 is sort of attached to all of these happenings. So it makes for a 272 00:19:30.519 --> 00:19:34.680 great metaphor for those people or those kids who are considered different. You know, 273 00:19:34.799 --> 00:19:40.240 Miles is considered different, but he embraces who he is, turning his 274 00:19:40.400 --> 00:19:45.559 perceived weakness into an actual strength, a realized strength. And I think that's 275 00:19:45.839 --> 00:19:51.039 amazing storytelling and meaningful to a lot of people. Miles, this freestyling teenage 276 00:19:51.119 --> 00:19:55.920 artist who acts on impulse, versus the older macguel and his regimented team of 277 00:19:55.960 --> 00:20:00.119 spidies who are mostly devoid of emotion and are also walking that thin line between 278 00:20:00.160 --> 00:20:04.480 good and bad. It's just a great premise. All these guys still ultimately 279 00:20:04.519 --> 00:20:10.160 having one enemy in common makes it an awesome three sided story. Then you 280 00:20:10.240 --> 00:20:15.240 sprinkling Gwen and how her story compliments both sides of that spidy aisle, and 281 00:20:15.319 --> 00:20:19.160 it's a perfect story. You can't have goo a perfect sandwich without the perfect 282 00:20:19.200 --> 00:20:25.079 accoustrement. And I think that's what Gwen and her backstory does to this movie. 283 00:20:25.240 --> 00:20:29.319 It's so necessary for her and for the plot of the movie. And 284 00:20:29.359 --> 00:20:33.400 also they take what is seemingly a small plot point in the first movie and 285 00:20:33.440 --> 00:20:36.839 it ends up being a great tie into this movie. We get a villain 286 00:20:36.880 --> 00:20:41.559 who we interpret as Goofy early on and ends up being terribly menacing and overpowered, 287 00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:45.599 and we still understand where he's coming from and his motivations. And like 288 00:20:45.720 --> 00:20:51.079 we said, the animation is truly innovative here, built on what the first 289 00:20:51.119 --> 00:20:53.400 movie did. We get several new techniques in this and they're all awesome, 290 00:20:53.640 --> 00:20:59.519 And finally go We're left with a sick lead into a third movie. I 291 00:20:59.559 --> 00:21:04.000 am giving more of these characters and this story, and literally had a case 292 00:21:04.039 --> 00:21:07.680 of the blue balls in the theater. Now, this movie moved me emotionally, 293 00:21:07.720 --> 00:21:11.000 It made me laughed, It left me wanting more. It's been a 294 00:21:11.039 --> 00:21:15.519 long time since I've watched a movie like this, especially in animated one. 295 00:21:15.799 --> 00:21:18.880 So not only Goo, do I think this is better than the first movie? 296 00:21:19.079 --> 00:21:22.400 I think. I agree this is the best Spider Man movie ever made. 297 00:21:22.720 --> 00:21:26.920 I had Homecoming as number one before that, a little bit ahead of 298 00:21:26.039 --> 00:21:30.160 into the Spider Verse. Furthermore, Goo, I believe this to be the 299 00:21:30.319 --> 00:21:34.720 greatest animated comic book movie of all time, unseating the Incredibles. For me, 300 00:21:36.240 --> 00:21:37.839 forty hot dogs. Well, Mac, I'm glad that you just said 301 00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:42.799 forty hot dogs because it's looking like we've got ourselves double box thumbs up. 302 00:21:42.880 --> 00:21:48.799 Magoo o me me me, Mac, I will also be going with forty 303 00:21:48.880 --> 00:21:53.559 hot dogs. This is just groundbreaking in every possible way, in its style 304 00:21:53.640 --> 00:21:57.839 and its storytelling. Everything is taken to a whole new level from the first 305 00:21:57.880 --> 00:22:03.200 movie. It is changing as well. You know, the atmosphere and the 306 00:22:03.240 --> 00:22:07.079 emotion of the movie is just moving like jazz. The characters are just so 307 00:22:07.200 --> 00:22:14.039 wonderfully written, animated, performed. It just feels like a live action movie. 308 00:22:14.440 --> 00:22:18.319 And you know, Miles is a great character. But what they do 309 00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:23.920 with Gwen here like this is the Gwen Stacey movie that everyone asked for after 310 00:22:23.960 --> 00:22:27.759 the first movie, where it's almost like I came out of it thinking it's 311 00:22:27.759 --> 00:22:32.960 a fifty forty five split of Miles and Gwen, and either of them could 312 00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:37.039 have carried their own movie. But both of them are just such great characters 313 00:22:37.039 --> 00:22:40.920 and what they gave us. Also, I love Spiderpunk and the animation that 314 00:22:40.960 --> 00:22:44.079 they gave us with him and how different that is. It looks like a 315 00:22:44.079 --> 00:22:48.720 punk rock scene, like an old concert poster that looks awesome. The first 316 00:22:48.720 --> 00:22:52.119 half of the movie is building up Gwen and Miles once again. The second 317 00:22:52.119 --> 00:22:56.440 half is just amazing action animation, throwing everything at you on the screen. 318 00:22:56.799 --> 00:23:00.680 And you know, I've seen some people who don't care for the amount of 319 00:23:00.720 --> 00:23:03.160 colors and animation that we got there, but I thought that that was a 320 00:23:03.319 --> 00:23:07.519 roller coaster ride that we earned. Like we got there. It wasn't just 321 00:23:07.839 --> 00:23:11.279 like, you know, from the get go, let's throw colors out you, 322 00:23:11.279 --> 00:23:14.400 which they kind of did with Gwen stuff, but they built up to 323 00:23:14.480 --> 00:23:17.559 it, and everything in this movie is built up to through the first movie. 324 00:23:18.200 --> 00:23:21.200 I love this movie. It is the best Spider Man movie. It 325 00:23:21.279 --> 00:23:23.720 is the best movie on the year so far. I might be with you 326 00:23:23.960 --> 00:23:27.000 on best animated comic book movie. I'd have to think about it, but 327 00:23:27.039 --> 00:23:32.000 I'm pretty sure you're right. Let me throw some movies at you for them. 328 00:23:32.079 --> 00:23:34.400 Yeah, go ahead. The Incredible is obviously is what I mentioned. 329 00:23:34.480 --> 00:23:37.799 Big Hero six is up there. Mask of the Phantasm is the one. 330 00:23:37.839 --> 00:23:44.319 I figure you might have number one if they were able to tidy up the 331 00:23:44.559 --> 00:23:48.720 animation and make it more modern. I think that story could be up there 332 00:23:48.759 --> 00:23:52.119 with this, okay, and then some other ones that I know people talk 333 00:23:52.160 --> 00:23:56.279 about. Under the Red Hood is up there on a lot of lists. 334 00:23:56.680 --> 00:23:59.559 The Dark Knight Returns, but that is a two parter, so it might 335 00:23:59.640 --> 00:24:03.519 hurt each one individually. Of course, the first first one of these movies, 336 00:24:03.559 --> 00:24:06.680 into the Fighters, into the Spider Verse, some people say is the 337 00:24:06.680 --> 00:24:10.240 best. And then you also have movies like Lego Batman that that people really 338 00:24:10.240 --> 00:24:14.359 love too. But to me, the only real competition to this for me 339 00:24:14.960 --> 00:24:18.480 on my list was The Incredibles, because the Incredibles does something similar or it 340 00:24:18.480 --> 00:24:23.079 brings you that family element and you care for these characters, and as good 341 00:24:23.079 --> 00:24:27.079 as it is, I don't think it feels as personal and live action like 342 00:24:27.240 --> 00:24:30.759 as this one does. That's why I put this one over that, and 343 00:24:30.799 --> 00:24:33.759 then you have it as the top movie on the year, number one movie 344 00:24:33.759 --> 00:24:38.000 of twenty twenty three. First forty Dogger I've given out since everything everywhere else 345 00:24:38.079 --> 00:24:41.880 once, which is the only forty Dogger I had last year. I'm gonna 346 00:24:41.880 --> 00:24:48.319 put a bullet on that boom about that bang double forties. You're ready to 347 00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:57.160 spoil mac spoilers good. The premise of this movie is that the Alcamax explosion 348 00:24:57.519 --> 00:25:03.480 at the end of the first movie leaves Jonathan owne On. He's the gentleman 349 00:25:03.759 --> 00:25:07.680 in the facility that gets hits by the Bagel in the first movie. He's 350 00:25:07.720 --> 00:25:15.920 left severely disfigured and ultimately given or gains superpowers from that explosion explosion becomes this 351 00:25:15.079 --> 00:25:19.440 villain called the Spot who we don't take too serious from the outset. Additionally, 352 00:25:19.480 --> 00:25:25.640 as a result of that Alcomax colliders machines first use at the beginning of 353 00:25:25.720 --> 00:25:30.240 the first movie, This is what brings Miles his spider in how he gets 354 00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:33.839 his powers From that first use, There's been a cascade effect of riffs in 355 00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:38.880 other universes that has moved different spidies and different villains all over the place. 356 00:25:40.279 --> 00:25:44.359 And because of that Macguel Spider Man twenty ninety nine Spider Man from the Future, 357 00:25:44.680 --> 00:25:49.400 assembles this team of Spider Man, Spider Women and everything in between two 358 00:25:51.000 --> 00:25:56.599 capture and basically get rid of or contain these anomalies. And because these anomalies, 359 00:25:57.119 --> 00:26:00.680 they tell us, can disrupt these cannon level events, and if you 360 00:26:02.079 --> 00:26:06.720 disrupt these events, as we see in Mumbattant, that can cause the universe 361 00:26:06.799 --> 00:26:10.880 to rip apart and essentially destroy everyone and everything in it. And we also 362 00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:14.759 see that's what happens with O'Hara's original universe. Well, the one that he 363 00:26:14.839 --> 00:26:18.119 stepped into is that Okaya one of them. I couldn't tell which universe that 364 00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:21.519 was. Well, he found a Miguel O'Hara that also died, so he 365 00:26:21.559 --> 00:26:22.920 stepped in, took him out of the way, and then took his family. 366 00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:27.400 Yes, there you go. And so the goal of Miguel O'Hara is 367 00:26:27.440 --> 00:26:33.599 to capture and contain these anomalies before they cause irreversial damage. So one of 368 00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:37.599 the big moments in the film We Get Here You is we discover that Miles 369 00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:41.960 is actually the first ever anomaly in the multiverse. He was never supposed to 370 00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:45.799 become Spider man because that Spider forty two was never supposed to be in his 371 00:26:45.960 --> 00:26:49.039 universe. Yea. So this leads to the death of Chris Pines, Peter 372 00:26:49.119 --> 00:26:53.400 Parker and Miles's universe, which was also never supposed to happen, and then 373 00:26:53.440 --> 00:26:57.559 the Alkamax event at the conclusion of that movie leads to the creation of the 374 00:26:57.559 --> 00:27:02.000 Spot, which was never going, never supposed to happen, and now the 375 00:27:02.039 --> 00:27:07.200 Spot threatens the whole multiverse as well as trying to kill Miles's father to get 376 00:27:07.240 --> 00:27:11.119 revenge basically because the Spot was created by Miles. So now Miguel is saying, 377 00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:14.880 you cannot go back. We have to let the death of your father 378 00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:18.519 happen. And so Miles is saying, I can do both. I can 379 00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:22.440 do he can Basically he's gonna try to and this plays into you know, 380 00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:26.799 it's a great foil these two characters. Miguel is regimented, is making very 381 00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:30.480 by the book decisions, as Miles like, no, fuck that, let 382 00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:33.400 me try to do both, let me try to prevent this. And so 383 00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:37.640 that's that's really the setup for the next movie, almost right, because we 384 00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:41.319 don't even get a conclusion to that. Yeah, we're essentially I believe starting 385 00:27:41.319 --> 00:27:45.400 the next movie. So this one ends with Miles is in the wrong multiverse. 386 00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:48.519 He is on Earth forty two. He is face to face with himself, 387 00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:52.640 but this self is the Prowler. His father is dead in this universe. 388 00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:56.359 But it seems like Miles is ready to get out of that situation. 389 00:27:56.640 --> 00:28:00.839 He's kind of figured it out. He's got that smart. But it's almost 390 00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:03.079 like Gwen and her team, which we do get Spider Man Newir at the 391 00:28:03.160 --> 00:28:07.960 end, the people and the theater cheered for not Nicholas Cage because Nicholas Cage 392 00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:12.079 was not in the movie. But it's that team versus mcguel's team, and 393 00:28:12.119 --> 00:28:17.880 it's a race to find Miles, and Miles might not even need either team 394 00:28:17.960 --> 00:28:21.200 to do his thing. Yeah, but Miles will need help getting back to 395 00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:23.319 his universe. You will need help because he does not have a dongle. 396 00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:27.480 Yes, that's a good word for it. So yeah, that's the other 397 00:28:27.519 --> 00:28:33.359 big moment, big reveal, big twist in this movie goo is we realize 398 00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:37.079 that once Mileas escapes from all those Spider Men, women and everything in between, 399 00:28:37.480 --> 00:28:42.400 he gets back to that hub and he uses the go Home machine. 400 00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:47.119 It gets sent back to Earth forty two, which is where his spider is 401 00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:49.640 from, which is what his DNA is. But we don't know this initially 402 00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:52.960 unless you really put two and two together, which some people did. We're 403 00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:56.880 watching on screen thinking he's talking to his real mother, and we see Gwen 404 00:28:56.960 --> 00:29:00.759 outside of the window of his bedroom and we're like, oh, she's right 405 00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:03.319 there looking out for him. But after like two minutes, you're like, 406 00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:07.079 hold on something, something's not right. She's not Rio's not quite picking up 407 00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:11.079 on what Miles is saying. Turns out Miles is in Earth forty two. 408 00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:17.240 No one else is. This is the universe devoid of a Spider Man because 409 00:29:17.279 --> 00:29:19.839 the spider that was supposed to bite Spider Man ended up in Miles's universe. 410 00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:23.920 So we see it's sort of dystopian, right, there's burnt, there's fires 411 00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:29.920 everywhere, and we learned that the Miles in this universe has become the Prowler 412 00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:33.839 because his father has died. His father has died, and Uncle Aaron has 413 00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:37.920 essentially raised him, has been helping out his mother. And then aside to 414 00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:41.359 that, Gwen, mcguel, Jess and Ben are all in miles is actual 415 00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:47.119 universe looking for Miles, not realizing he's in the other universe, but before 416 00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:51.119 Gwen and then that squad gets there, she goes, she picks up Peter 417 00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:55.200 b. I think she picks up Jess, the one on the motorcycle. 418 00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:57.839 I'm pretty sure. No, she pretty much just picks up everyone from the 419 00:29:57.880 --> 00:30:03.920 first movie and couple well yeah, plus um the one who is like virtually 420 00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:07.279 sending herself to the Spider Universe, and a couple other You just mentioned the 421 00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:11.799 Prowler, and may I ask you this is that the best cameo that we 422 00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:17.480 have seen in the while with Donald Glover showing up as the Prowler. Yep. 423 00:30:17.559 --> 00:30:22.079 So we get a little like a throne room treasure room type of scene 424 00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:25.319 in here where we see a lot of giant Easter egg hall, yeah, 425 00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:29.480 the anomalies, and where they're all kept in once they're captured. And in 426 00:30:29.559 --> 00:30:34.039 one of these little capture pods is Donald Glover live action, live action Donald 427 00:30:34.119 --> 00:30:41.359 Glover as the Prowler in his Prowler suit, presumably from the Tom Halland maybe 428 00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:44.880 we think could be different, Yes, it could be different, but it 429 00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:48.119 also it makes too much sense that it is the MCU one, which then 430 00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:52.880 makes you think, are they gonna have Miles morales eventually in the MCU was 431 00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:57.680 this a future Prowler that got sent back to a different time. It could 432 00:30:57.759 --> 00:31:02.240 also be a different Prowler. We don't know. Yeah, And you see, 433 00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:07.400 so we got also odes to Andrew Garfield and uh Toby Maguire. They 434 00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:11.480 weren't actually in it. It was previous clips of them, and so then 435 00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:15.880 their homage or their their point too. I think Tom Holland was this Don 436 00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:19.599 Clover Donald Glover scene, but again we could be wrong about that. So 437 00:31:19.640 --> 00:31:22.920 that was that was a real nice That was a great pop in the thing. 438 00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:26.839 Although we do get a reference to Tom Holland, Spider Man and two 439 00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:30.440 Doctor Strange. Yes, yeah, Miguel Harris is something to the effect of 440 00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:34.480 those two idiots almost messed everything up due the uh the animation in this movie. 441 00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:37.200 Let's get back to that for a second. Yes, Gwen's World is 442 00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:41.599 amazing because it resembles like a watercolor painting, and as the emotion and the 443 00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:45.839 scene shifts, the colors on screen shift, and it was really really cool, 444 00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:48.839 and it was like it was sort of incomplete. You know, you 445 00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:53.079 see how watercolors kind of drift and don't really have defined outlines. That's what 446 00:31:53.240 --> 00:31:56.880 that that was, and I thought that was really cool. Loved it. 447 00:31:56.160 --> 00:32:01.359 In the India style Spider Man's Spider Man India, he lives in Mumbattan, 448 00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:07.079 which is Mumbai and Manhattan combined, and I thought those that world looked awesome 449 00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:09.880 too, and the way he uses his bracelets with the webs was awesome too. 450 00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:13.759 Yeah, I thought that was a great character. And then we mentioned 451 00:32:13.759 --> 00:32:17.079 earlier Spiderpunk as well, where it looks like a punk rock poster. Yeah, 452 00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:21.720 it's like a collage style animation, which was really cool, especially to 453 00:32:21.759 --> 00:32:23.960 see it in a non collage world. And then of course you get the 454 00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:29.920 symbolism behind where mcguel's world is. It's this clean, crisp, futuristic, 455 00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:35.960 minimalistic type world. But I think the most amazing animation of it all was 456 00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:39.920 very early on in this movie. We get a like a Leonardo da Vinci 457 00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:45.039 vulture in Gwen Stacy's where or it was it in Miles's world. It was 458 00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:49.079 Gwen's world, that's right, that's when when they first recruited her, and 459 00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:52.319 it was fucking amazing to see that animation up against Gwen's animation and all the 460 00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:57.000 tools and trinkets he had, and he had an Italian accent. It was 461 00:32:57.039 --> 00:33:00.960 so good. Yeah, because the first twenty minutes is set in Gwen's world. 462 00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:04.960 It's exactly twenty minutes, and I loved it. I thought this was 463 00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:08.119 such a great open to the movie. It's essentially a prologue to the movie 464 00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:12.799 that gives you the background to Gwen Stacy that we didn't get in the first 465 00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:15.640 movie but was teased. Yep. So then we go and we catch up 466 00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:19.759 with Miles, and we meet Spot and we get the repercussions for the collider 467 00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:23.079 and what happened in the first movie. Yeah, and we're very early on 468 00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:28.400 not taking Spots serious. A great job by Jason Schwartzman by the way of 469 00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:31.000 voicing this character. And we see he's still pretty new to this because he 470 00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:35.160 doesn't really understand his powers, just as we see with a lot of new 471 00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:37.960 heroes. He's still trying to figure it out as he tries to rob the 472 00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:40.839 atm There. Yep. And you know Miles, he has teenager problems, 473 00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:47.680 school parents, friends, girls. Yeah, Myles's father is getting promoted from 474 00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:52.119 sergeant or lieutenant to captain, which, of course, in all this Spider 475 00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:55.359 Man lure, a captain police officer is a big thing, and so Miles 476 00:33:55.440 --> 00:34:00.559 is in charge of bringing cakes to the that came was so good. It 477 00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:04.839 was such a good cake joke. I wasn't expecting that. He gives us 478 00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:10.000 long speech about how proud Miles is of him and how he is of Miles, 479 00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:14.239 and they opened the cakes and it just says not proud, and it 480 00:34:14.440 --> 00:34:17.280 fucking killed us. That was good. It was a perfect joke. So, 481 00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:21.519 speaking of Lord and Miller, speaking of Lego, we also got Lego 482 00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:27.320 Spider Man here. And what this also does is it introduces us or reintroduces 483 00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:30.679 us to JK. Simmons as j Jonah Jamison, who was just sprinkled. 484 00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:35.440 Ever So throughout the movie, yeah, we saw a few JK. Simmons 485 00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:37.960 voice or heard a few JK. Simmons voices, and a few universes. 486 00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:44.320 There was also a great one from Miguel Hair telling Lego Spider Man that he 487 00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:46.119 was one of their best ones. Yeah. Yeah, that was so funny 488 00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:51.199 too. So then Gwen comes back, she has the bracelet. She went 489 00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:54.679 into the Multiverse Spidy control room. At the beginning of it. You also 490 00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:58.800 got that you know scene with her dad where her dad still wanted to arrest 491 00:34:58.840 --> 00:35:01.800 her. Yeah, very emotional scene. So then we go to Moonbatten the 492 00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:07.760 universe there where Miles accidentally stops a cannon event yep, And we also get 493 00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:10.719 a little bit more of punk rock Spider Man here, who was a great 494 00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:17.119 addition to the crew. He was I thought as funny as uh, Spider 495 00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:23.559 Pig and Spider Man Noir was who I forget the the who's the girl in 496 00:35:23.599 --> 00:35:27.960 the robot? I forget it was the anime one. I felt like this 497 00:35:28.079 --> 00:35:30.400 was a better side character than those three. I think it's up there. 498 00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:34.599 I think they're very similar. Okay, okay, fair enough, fair enough, 499 00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:37.480 enough, enough enough. So let me go into the Spidy organization where 500 00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:40.719 we get the whole Easter rank thing, and once again, the Donald Glover 501 00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:44.679 one was the best one. It was great, It was perfect, and 502 00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:46.320 he played it well. He's just sitting there playing it cool, really good 503 00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:51.159 and really one that I forgot. I can't believe that I forgot going into 504 00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:55.679 this that he was in Spider Man Homecoming. He was Miles his uncle, 505 00:35:57.320 --> 00:36:00.159 and I just forgot. Yeah. I didn't expect at all. I thought 506 00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:04.719 for sure we'd get Tom Holland. But it makes so much sense because once 507 00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:09.239 again Donald Glover was in solo Lord and Miller right right, did more than 508 00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:14.679 fifty percent of the production of drawing the correct dots there that we should have 509 00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:19.800 drawn weeks ago. On top of that, we also saw the insomniac Spider 510 00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:22.639 Man, the one from the video games that got a good Pope, in 511 00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:27.239 Peter's room at the Vision's Academy. His roommate looked to be playing the Spider 512 00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:30.719 Man PS four game as well, which was all I like that too. 513 00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:32.519 And now you notice this, I think we all noticed this. Is that 514 00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:38.719 is that miguel is injecting himself with something. Yeah, so Spider Man twenty 515 00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:44.039 ninety nine, miguel O Hair is supposed to be like almost this beast like 516 00:36:44.360 --> 00:36:47.119 vampire like Spider Man, and I don't really know much about him. We 517 00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:52.599 did get one quick scene of him doing that sort of este thing. But 518 00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:57.960 is he injecting himself so that he's not vampire full time dick? Or is 519 00:36:57.960 --> 00:37:00.920 he injecting himself to keep those pounds. I don't know. I don't know 520 00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:04.199 as much as you do. I barely know anything, but it'd be sick 521 00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:08.960 if he's morbious. If he's Jared Lettos Morbius, so you say that, 522 00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:14.079 and my pal friend of the podcast, Tom texted me, he goes, 523 00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:20.159 you know what, I just had this thought, Miguel Michael vampires. Is 524 00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:23.320 it a morbous connection? Just give me Jared Lettos morbious this is This was 525 00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:25.719 the plan at the end of the movie where he wanted to team up with 526 00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:31.360 Michael Keaton's Vulture to kill Spider Man. Uh. And then we learned about 527 00:37:31.400 --> 00:37:37.320 all these cannon events, how every Spider Man has core and necessary cannon in 528 00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:42.360 order to make that universe go, and him preventing it in Mombattan could lead 529 00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:45.480 to the destruction of that universe. And we learn here in the midst of 530 00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:51.840 the chase that in his next the next cannon in his in his story, 531 00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:54.320 in his timeline, it's his father's supposed to die at the hands of the 532 00:37:54.360 --> 00:37:59.679 spot. So that is before the chase. The chase, So what happens 533 00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:02.079 in the chase is, you know, everyone's chasing him, and then he 534 00:38:02.119 --> 00:38:05.960 finds out that he was a mistake. He was never supposed to be a 535 00:38:05.960 --> 00:38:08.400 Spider Man, and Gwen and Peter b knew about it. By the way, 536 00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:12.519 Peter Bee does not show up until what like ninety minutes into this movie. 537 00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:15.079 Yeah, he pops up while they're in miguel O Harry's world. You're 538 00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:19.199 right, So they he finds out his father's supposed to die and that's what 539 00:38:19.320 --> 00:38:22.039 makes him take off. And then during that chase they found out he finds 540 00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:25.840 out that all his quote unquote friends knew he was an anomaly and that his 541 00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:30.039 dad's supposed to die and they got to keep him from knowing that, which 542 00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:32.199 is like devastating for him. But that was a cool chase scene. Of 543 00:38:32.199 --> 00:38:36.159 course, ending up on that rocket that you know, he's like, bye, 544 00:38:36.159 --> 00:38:40.800 guys, Yeah poo, goes back to the machine, gets sent back 545 00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:45.239 wrong world. I mean, with the help of that girl though, So 546 00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:50.599 you saw there she had a decision. She could have terminated the go home 547 00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:55.480 thing, but she lets him go. That was Margot Kess, her characters 548 00:38:55.519 --> 00:38:59.440 Spider Bite. And then of course Gwen told him earlier in the movie you 549 00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:01.000 know, don't tell your parents about this. But then he's telling his mom, 550 00:39:01.039 --> 00:39:05.239 but it's not his actual mom, and you think that she's listening in 551 00:39:05.360 --> 00:39:07.440 on that, but she's not at all. So you think she's making a 552 00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:10.320 decision there, and she's not at all making a decision. It was a 553 00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:15.360 good wool of your eyes moment for sure. So there are no post credit 554 00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:19.079 or mid credit scenes. We should have mentioned that in non spoilers, but 555 00:39:19.880 --> 00:39:23.880 yeah, this movie's fucking dope. Our final shot of the movie is him 556 00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:29.719 getting captured by his uncle Aaron and Earth forty two and the Miles from that 557 00:39:29.880 --> 00:39:32.559 Earth, and he's strapped against the punching bag that we saw in Aaron's apartment 558 00:39:32.599 --> 00:39:37.960 from the first movie, and you feel like he's getting ready to break out 559 00:39:37.960 --> 00:39:40.960 of that. And you also have Gwen and her new team in the band. 560 00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:44.119 She's always wanted to be in a band, by the way. Gwen 561 00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:46.159 also went back to her own world for a little bit and she kind of 562 00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:49.800 made up with her dad. Yeah, makes amends with her father, gets 563 00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:52.199 them a little bit of closure, then goes to recruit Peter B and this 564 00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:57.559 whole crew and looks like she's going to be jumping either to Miles's world or 565 00:39:57.599 --> 00:39:59.960 to Earth forty two. It could be either one, We're not sure. 566 00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:01.639 Peter B also has a baby, and there was a great call back to 567 00:40:01.679 --> 00:40:06.079 the First Spider Man where that might be the funniest line of the first one, 568 00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:09.000 where he's like I think I'm ready to have kids. And if you 569 00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:13.719 remember, in the first one, his backstory involves him getting divorced, and 570 00:40:13.800 --> 00:40:15.599 so now you know, on the in between, he's gotten back together and 571 00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:19.760 they now have a kid, and she's get an adorable little spider man mass 572 00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:21.880 she can pull over her face. Oh, let me ask you what you 573 00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:24.280 think of Miles's mom. It's pretty hot, right, Oh yeah, come 574 00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:28.400 on, don't get me started on that. Get the little curl right in 575 00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:36.199 the front. She is my exact style. Geez two dimension all. So 576 00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:38.800 once again, I'm going forty hard hot dogs on this. I love it. 577 00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:45.320 I love everything about it. And frozen forty dogs. Yeah, n 578 00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:50.239 give me more. I am so excited for this next movie. I I'm 579 00:40:50.280 --> 00:40:53.000 curious how they fill two and a half more hours now. Yeah, same. 580 00:40:54.039 --> 00:40:59.079 I have complete faith in them to give me exactly what I want. 581 00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:01.239 Yeah. I almost feel like, and this is not the way to say 582 00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:06.239 it, but I almost feel like the third movie is a bit doomed because 583 00:41:06.679 --> 00:41:10.039 what else is there left to do besides resolve the spot and his father's stuff. 584 00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:14.800 Will there'll be a new villain? Will there be a really long spidy 585 00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:16.599 verse spidy stuff? I feel like, if the last movie is more than 586 00:41:16.719 --> 00:41:20.880 ninety minutes, I'll be stunned, but it'll probably be a kick ass ninety 587 00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:22.480 minutes. Let me ask you this question too, not really having to do 588 00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:24.599 with this movie all though, what kind of does because it is Lord and 589 00:41:24.679 --> 00:41:29.480 Miller. If I were to ask you to put them on a list of 590 00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:35.199 creators that you trust the most, would they be in your top three? 591 00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:38.360 So the first two I thought of immediately were a Gun and Takoyd. These 592 00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:42.119 guys might be third. I'm trying. I might trust them a little more 593 00:41:42.119 --> 00:41:47.480 than Wad. Maybe maybe they're in the same realm. Possibly again, I 594 00:41:47.559 --> 00:41:51.719 like thora Loven Thunder then just more than just about every person on the planet. 595 00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:54.760 But yeah, Lord and Miller has have don't even really have a miss. 596 00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:58.239 Yeah, if we're doing a Mount Rushmore, it's those three and then 597 00:41:58.239 --> 00:42:01.440 Alan Smithy. Those would be the four on the Rushmore for sure. Yeah, 598 00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:04.679 so if you want to make that graphic, that'd be great. Other 599 00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:17.440 Billy day, Yeah, Max Maxac could be anything. It could be a 600 00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:21.679 boat and Mac. This week, this past couple of days, we have 601 00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:25.559 gotten season three of I think you should leave. And although I am only 602 00:42:25.639 --> 00:42:31.719 three episodes in I have had myself a time three two what goat? Oh 603 00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:40.320 we're croners, guys, we're crooners. Go ahead. The driving crewer dot 604 00:42:40.320 --> 00:42:50.639 com baby fuck to try fuck to trying to make it look fake. That 605 00:42:50.760 --> 00:42:52.800 was the first one that killed me, Absolutely killed me. I also really 606 00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:57.239 liked the Dating Show one. The Dating Show was the first one that killed 607 00:42:57.280 --> 00:43:00.639 me. Loves the zip line, says the zip line. Even in the 608 00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:02.039 credits for it, you see him in the background the zip line, and 609 00:43:02.079 --> 00:43:04.840 I'm like, what are they going to do with this? And it did 610 00:43:04.880 --> 00:43:07.679 not die. They introduced Mike from Adventure three sixty five that talks about him 611 00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:10.679 tugging on the zip line. So good. So I was able to watch 612 00:43:10.719 --> 00:43:14.719 through once and I'm in the midst of a second watch through, but it's 613 00:43:14.719 --> 00:43:19.239 nothing's quite ingrained in my memory yet. I'm gonna need like five more rewatches. 614 00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:22.360 Like I'm not sure if it is better than season two. I don't 615 00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:28.280 think it is, but I think it might have as many possible quotes or 616 00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:31.880 memorable things. I also think Tim does a better job of leaning into the 617 00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:37.239 ship we loved from the first two seasons, so it's more of him in 618 00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:40.679 his pronunciation of certain words and random swears and shit like that. But I 619 00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:46.079 also do think he might fall into if a sketch isn't necessarily working, he 620 00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:52.119 just does a voice. Yeah, that's true. Once again, there's Sam 621 00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:57.480 Richardson's sketches very low. They got to stop using him in the same exact 622 00:43:57.559 --> 00:44:00.800 characters. Oh you know what, I wasn't a huge fan of the rat 623 00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:04.320 Mom The rat Mom. I thought it was a funny premise, and I 624 00:44:04.320 --> 00:44:06.679 thought it was a funny premise at the beginning, and then when you found 625 00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:10.320 out what was going on, it wasn't that still okay? Yeah, but 626 00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:14.719 yeah, we will have a full review of I think you should leave season 627 00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:17.920 three either at the end of next week or the beginning of the week after 628 00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:22.239 a week or two. Gotta let it just bathe over us. Yes, 629 00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:25.280 keep on coming over us. We need to blanket ourselves. And I think 630 00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:29.880 you should leave season three because I want to watch it at least twenty times 631 00:44:29.880 --> 00:44:34.039 before three strong agree? All right? Mac, Where can you find us? 632 00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:37.480 You can find us on Twitter and on Instagram at Mac and Goo podcast 633 00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:42.079 on every other platform. We are mac ampersand Goo that's Mac Shift seven Good 634 00:44:42.079 --> 00:44:45.559 includes Facebook, Stitcher, tuning Cast, buck Speaker, Google Play, I 635 00:44:45.800 --> 00:44:50.239 Heart Radio. We're on Spotify, but more importantly, we're on Apple Podcast. 636 00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:52.840 Got an Apple podcast, rate review, subscribe five stars. If you 637 00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:55.239 do that, we'll get you a free T shirt from the folks over at 638 00:44:55.280 --> 00:45:00.000 Watatown Sports where. It's Wattown Sports where thirty four an Ober Street in water 639 00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:07.000 Town. Watertime Sports dot com expert screenprinting and embroidery, Tpublic dot Com. 640 00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:09.880 I think you should leave. There's already some stuff from season three available for 641 00:45:09.960 --> 00:45:15.039 you to buy, So go and do that. You got an egg shirt 642 00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:16.880 up there right, there's an egg shirt and this crooner, the hat and 643 00:45:16.920 --> 00:45:22.280 the cigar that's available too. Oh I like that. I also did you 644 00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:24.480 see the frend Arbiston sketches in the first episode. Yeah, he's great in 645 00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:30.119 that too, and then the line and the egg sketch like it's got a 646 00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:34.039 bush? What the hell? Also, and I want to say the proper 647 00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:37.400 thing here because at our next Trivia, which is gonna be nineties tune, 648 00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:44.440 So think WB Fox, Kids, Nickelodeon, and Cartoon Network. Those are 649 00:45:44.480 --> 00:45:46.639 four possible categories. Bang. I had been told that we are going to 650 00:45:46.719 --> 00:45:53.480 have Super Dope Pizza Company there. Nice. That's Wednesday, June twenty first, 651 00:45:53.639 --> 00:45:58.559 twenty First, there you go. That's nice. Wednesday, NY First, 652 00:45:58.559 --> 00:46:02.760 seven pm, Hands Craft Bails Show. You're the next contestant on the 653 00:46:02.800 --> 00:46:07.920 price is right. So that'll do it for us. Check us out next 654 00:46:07.960 --> 00:46:15.280 week for dump other stuff, whatever you want, I guess. Yeah, 655 00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:20.679 go back into the archives maybe who knows. Yeah, listen to old episodes. 656 00:46:21.519 --> 00:46:25.519 Oh go check us out on TikTok and Instagram. We got videos and 657 00:46:25.639 --> 00:46:30.320 people are talking about these videos. We do have videos are people are like, 658 00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:35.039 wow, where are these coming from? Who are who's making these? 659 00:46:35.639 --> 00:46:42.360 Whoa how did they figure out cameras? It's the on button with the record. 660 00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:45.239 That's what I do. Mac So Tuesdays or Goose Days. I abuse 661 00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:55.800 kangaroos. Bye, how it's time for girls jumping on trampolines. Please flip 662 00:46:55.800 --> 00:46:59.440 the cassette over to side B to continue the adventure.