WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.559 --> 00:00:12.759 Prepare to blast off on another epic episode of the hyper Anomalous Esoteric Research Organization 2 00:00:12.880 --> 00:00:22.079 podcast aka Hero Paranormal Broadcasting just south of the Old Sherman Ranch in the un 3 00:00:22.079 --> 00:00:26.879 A Basin of Utah. My name is Ryan, the Anomalous Ambassador of the 4 00:00:26.920 --> 00:00:37.079 airwaves, bringing you an epic episode today. Is it possible that the declassification 5 00:00:37.799 --> 00:00:47.359 of certain documents and programs are giving us a rare glimpse inside black budget projects 6 00:00:47.799 --> 00:00:57.439 run by sorceress elites. Shocking revelations are brought by groundbreaking podcaster and investigator Writer 7 00:00:57.640 --> 00:01:03.879 Lee. You may know writer from his popular podcast Raised by Giants. We 8 00:01:03.959 --> 00:01:11.519 are going to address Project Monarch, Hallucinogens, Cindy Gottlieb, MK, Ultra 9 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:19.120 remote Viewing, and even a little bit of this secret space program. Regardless 10 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:26.200 of your thoughts on this, it's gonna get weird and we are going to 11 00:01:26.280 --> 00:01:32.560 delve into what it all really means when it comes to manipulating our reality and 12 00:01:32.760 --> 00:01:41.840 controlling the masses. If you have not gone over to Patreon and looked up 13 00:01:41.920 --> 00:01:47.439 Hero Paranormal and subscribed, I highly recommend it. There is a ton of 14 00:01:47.480 --> 00:01:53.120 content behind the paywall you're missing out on. You can also access that content 15 00:01:53.000 --> 00:02:00.719 via podbean at hero Paranormal dot com. Well, get ready to blast off 16 00:02:00.760 --> 00:02:23.400 on another amazing podcast in three two one, Come blast off in my time 17 00:02:23.439 --> 00:02:30.479 machine. Feeling like a need by seeing blast Off, Blast Office, Last 18 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:36.280 Office, Last Office, Come blast off in my time machine. I feel 19 00:02:36.439 --> 00:02:42.039 like a need I see last blast Off, blast Off, blast Off. 20 00:02:43.479 --> 00:02:46.439 We've got a great guest today, Writer Lee. It's not hard to promote 21 00:02:46.520 --> 00:02:53.120 writer. He sort of sells himself with all the groundbreaking investigative work he does 22 00:02:53.680 --> 00:02:58.039 and his podcasting. He's one of my favorite guys to talk about and to 23 00:02:58.199 --> 00:03:02.840 talk to. So, Writer Lee, welcome to the Hero Paranormal Podcast. 24 00:03:04.719 --> 00:03:07.800 Thanks so much, try and appreciate you having me back on This is what 25 00:03:07.960 --> 00:03:10.639 the third third time you've been on my show three times, I think, 26 00:03:10.639 --> 00:03:14.240 and this is a third one on your So I appreciate you, my friend. 27 00:03:14.240 --> 00:03:17.639 I'm looking forward to diving into some awesome topics with you. Yeah. 28 00:03:17.680 --> 00:03:23.039 I think this is like, I think it's a trifecta. This is three. 29 00:03:23.080 --> 00:03:28.000 I think that's great. I'm super excited and stoked about this one because 30 00:03:28.000 --> 00:03:31.159 we're going to be going into the darker than dark projects, black projects. 31 00:03:31.240 --> 00:03:37.560 Remote viewing all sorts of strange areas where you've been doing a ton of research 32 00:03:37.680 --> 00:03:43.159 talking to the right people. Where should we kick it off at? Well, 33 00:03:43.240 --> 00:03:46.280 Ryan, I think that, well, I guess we can go to 34 00:03:46.360 --> 00:03:52.080 where this really started for me. And I started investigating into the MK Ultra 35 00:03:52.360 --> 00:03:58.039 programs and the one hundred and forty ninety classified MK ULTRA projects, and I 36 00:03:58.080 --> 00:04:03.479 was reading through all those and I'm discovering that there's four or five subprojects that 37 00:04:03.560 --> 00:04:13.199 were were dedicated just to researching ESP, remote viewing and psychic abilities, right, 38 00:04:13.919 --> 00:04:16.319 And am I digging deep into that? And then I'm also realizing that 39 00:04:16.360 --> 00:04:28.040 almost all of these subprojects involve some kind of hallucinogenic substance mushrooms LSD, which 40 00:04:28.199 --> 00:04:33.199 we know Sidney Gottlieb was ahead of all of these programs, and he had 41 00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:40.519 a brother that was a plant biologist. And there's not any confirmation or any 42 00:04:40.560 --> 00:04:46.319 facts surrounding if his brother actually created a lot of the medications that he would 43 00:04:46.360 --> 00:04:51.079 experiment on subjects in the mp lentary programs or not. But I just thought 44 00:04:51.079 --> 00:04:55.319 that that was an interesting little side note there, that he had a brother 45 00:04:55.439 --> 00:04:59.680 that was a plant biologist and he's experimenting on all these different chemicals and stuff 46 00:04:59.720 --> 00:05:06.399 in there. And also I found out that a lot of the medications that 47 00:05:06.480 --> 00:05:14.279 people are on to day come directly out of the mk Ultra programs as well, 48 00:05:14.720 --> 00:05:23.480 like antidepressants, antipsychotics, adderall riddling, you know. And then we 49 00:05:23.560 --> 00:05:28.360 see this uptick in all these medications in like the early nineties, you know, 50 00:05:28.439 --> 00:05:31.199 and then into the two thousands just starts hitting like really really hard. 51 00:05:31.279 --> 00:05:35.639 Like you have a kid that you know, they take them to the doctor 52 00:05:35.720 --> 00:05:39.879 and you can't set stuff. He's just being a kid, right, and 53 00:05:40.079 --> 00:05:47.040 they'll put the child on adderall riddling, you know. So and those medications 54 00:05:47.079 --> 00:05:51.600 came directly out of the mk Ultra programs. So it's like I'm putting all 55 00:05:51.639 --> 00:05:57.720 these things together and I'm really trying to dig down deep into exactly what's going 56 00:05:57.759 --> 00:06:03.680 on here. And then I start getting into the Stargate Project, which is 57 00:06:03.759 --> 00:06:13.680 a DA Army intelligence ran program to study ESP study remote viewing, and they 58 00:06:13.720 --> 00:06:21.279 had an official special Access program the Army started in seventy five, and then 59 00:06:21.720 --> 00:06:30.279 DA started its Special Access program officially in seventy nine. And I thought this 60 00:06:30.399 --> 00:06:34.439 was interesting because they were already doing this during the MK Ultra programs. And 61 00:06:34.439 --> 00:06:41.160 then when Stanford Research Institute, they split from Stanford in nineteen seventy and then 62 00:06:41.160 --> 00:06:47.600 they became known as the Stanford Research Institute International in nineteen seventy three, and 63 00:06:47.639 --> 00:06:56.560 then they became funded by the CIA through directly through Sydney Gottlieb until seventy five, 64 00:06:57.519 --> 00:07:00.959 and then the Air Force picked up the rest of the funding two SRI. 65 00:07:01.639 --> 00:07:08.680 So all these three letter organizations had their hands in funding this kind of 66 00:07:08.720 --> 00:07:12.839 research they were doing there, you know, the research on their own, 67 00:07:13.160 --> 00:07:17.120 and then it was supposed to be given back to the CIA in ninety five 68 00:07:17.240 --> 00:07:20.399 and the CIA just shut down the Stargate project. Now, the star Gate 69 00:07:20.439 --> 00:07:25.319 project went by many different code names, as I'm sure that you're aware of 70 00:07:25.399 --> 00:07:32.279 Ryan and went by Girl Flean, Sunstreak, A Sing. I can't remember 71 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:38.199 the other one. But there was many code names for the projects and they 72 00:07:38.240 --> 00:07:41.399 were they did that all the time in the Cold War. I mean, 73 00:07:42.040 --> 00:07:46.399 when you look at Pat Price's work, whenever he remote viewed that secret military 74 00:07:46.439 --> 00:07:51.519 base in West Virginia, he was able to literally see inside of the base 75 00:07:51.600 --> 00:07:58.160 and read all the paperwork that was within that base. And they also used 76 00:07:58.199 --> 00:08:01.199 code words and code names for all of the projects that they were doing there 77 00:08:01.199 --> 00:08:05.519 too, and it all revolved around billiards, you know, it would be 78 00:08:05.560 --> 00:08:09.800 like, um, you know eight Ball project or you know, stuff like 79 00:08:09.839 --> 00:08:15.240 that. So it's really interesting and it gets very very convoluted. And I 80 00:08:15.319 --> 00:08:22.800 have all the Stargate declassified documents. I have all of the growth Flame declassified 81 00:08:22.839 --> 00:08:28.879 documents in the mk all Trigge classified documents and just going through there. And 82 00:08:30.240 --> 00:08:33.399 I brought a lot of these people on my show because this is another angle 83 00:08:33.399 --> 00:08:39.200 of this too, right, is that the people in the secret Space Program, 84 00:08:39.320 --> 00:08:43.679 Asset people and the super Soldiers, they all talk about the Stargate project 85 00:08:43.720 --> 00:08:48.519 like it was an actual project to open up like a legitimate portal or like 86 00:08:48.559 --> 00:08:54.279 a real stargate and you could go through the stargate and then you would, 87 00:08:54.320 --> 00:08:58.759 you know, go to a different dimension or a different reality or another planet 88 00:08:58.879 --> 00:09:03.360 and all of that, right, or go to an alternate reality or whatever 89 00:09:03.519 --> 00:09:07.120 is going on there. And I was like, nah, I don't I 90 00:09:07.159 --> 00:09:09.720 don't think that that's what's going on. And I knew that the DA had 91 00:09:09.720 --> 00:09:13.679 a program it was called the Stargate Project. So I just reached out to 92 00:09:15.559 --> 00:09:22.759 all of those people that were legitimately involved in the military operation to collect intelligence 93 00:09:22.960 --> 00:09:28.120 information and intelligence day on foreign assessments. So so far, I've had Angela 94 00:09:28.200 --> 00:09:31.480 Forge. She was my first guest that was officially a part of the Stargate 95 00:09:31.519 --> 00:09:35.000 project. The next one was Limp Buchanan, then doctor David Moorehouse Dell Graft 96 00:09:35.120 --> 00:09:41.480 and then most recently doctor Paul Smith. So I really did that to try 97 00:09:41.879 --> 00:09:50.639 and debunk what a lot of what you could call lacadus in the community, 98 00:09:50.759 --> 00:09:56.399 to let them realize that what they're talking about doesn't line up with reality. 99 00:09:58.159 --> 00:10:01.279 And that's the reason that I brought all these people on my show and also 100 00:10:01.440 --> 00:10:05.080 to you know, study and figure out what's really going on, because there's 101 00:10:05.120 --> 00:10:11.000 there's a lot of things that just don't line up within the community that it 102 00:10:11.240 --> 00:10:16.080 is not reality based. But one of them, well two of them is 103 00:10:16.360 --> 00:10:22.480 for sure that's done because there's declassified documents on it is the MK Ultra programs 104 00:10:22.799 --> 00:10:28.159 and the Stargate Project, and very verifiable. You can look either one of 105 00:10:28.159 --> 00:10:33.720 those programs up and read through all those declassified documents. It's they are both 106 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:45.360 very real projects and very verifiable reality. So yeah, and I'm really glad 107 00:10:45.399 --> 00:10:50.200 that you mentioned there is You're cutting in the chase with people like Angela Ford, 108 00:10:50.399 --> 00:10:56.480 Lynn Buchanan, m Dale Morehouse, Paul Smith, because anymore it seems 109 00:10:56.480 --> 00:11:01.519 like all you have to do is go to a UFO conference expo. And 110 00:11:01.759 --> 00:11:05.240 I mean, remote viewing is kind of the new catchphrase. You know, 111 00:11:05.279 --> 00:11:11.080 it's like, are you vegan? It's like everybody remote views And that's just 112 00:11:11.279 --> 00:11:18.080 not exactly compatible with the realistic history and the controlled the CRV, the controlled 113 00:11:18.240 --> 00:11:24.279 remote viewing techniques that were used by the military. So I think that's super 114 00:11:24.320 --> 00:11:31.120 important that you know, the CIA wasn't funding all of these other more bohemian 115 00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:37.240 style remote viewing angles that I mean, because it seems like, you know, 116 00:11:37.480 --> 00:11:41.679 I have found it. I'm sure you've found that when you start talking 117 00:11:41.720 --> 00:11:48.200 secret space program and remote viewing that it goes to really random, crazy places. 118 00:11:48.759 --> 00:11:58.759 And speaking of that, what are your thoughts of the Mars jump room. 119 00:12:00.200 --> 00:12:05.720 See this is where a lot of confusing things happen, right, And 120 00:12:09.519 --> 00:12:13.279 see, we don't we tend to want to just look at the faerytale, 121 00:12:13.960 --> 00:12:20.480 nonsensical, extra dimensional aspect of this whole thing, and people talking about things 122 00:12:20.519 --> 00:12:26.159 that we have absolutely no idea about it, and that they are the only 123 00:12:26.159 --> 00:12:28.799 ones to have that information, and they're the only ones that can disseminate that 124 00:12:30.320 --> 00:12:35.679 information. But whenever you start bringing it down to earth and talking about real 125 00:12:35.759 --> 00:12:43.840 programs that actually happen here, and you start looking at all of the psychological 126 00:12:43.720 --> 00:12:52.159 manipulation and psychological experiments that these three letter organizations were doing, that the military 127 00:12:52.720 --> 00:12:58.639 was doing, you start to understand that it's a very high possibility that a 128 00:12:58.639 --> 00:13:07.440 lot of this phenomenon can be boiled down to a psychological experiment and that it's 129 00:13:07.639 --> 00:13:13.360 actually happening in your head, it's not external to you. And Carl Young 130 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:20.639 actually talks about that too. He talks about the abduction phenomenon being something in 131 00:13:20.679 --> 00:13:28.480 our psyche that we have yet to understand. And I personally believe that a 132 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:33.679 lot of these memories and a lot of these things that people recover later on 133 00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:39.080 in their life was planted there on purpose, because we know that that's what 134 00:13:39.120 --> 00:13:43.440 the MK ultra's role was to do. It was to be pattern your mind, 135 00:13:45.440 --> 00:13:48.759 which is done through a myriad of ways. A lot of times torture. 136 00:13:48.840 --> 00:13:54.360 Now people take torture as like you're being beaten or that you're being you 137 00:13:54.399 --> 00:13:58.240 know, hurt in some kind of way, or that you're being tied up, 138 00:13:58.279 --> 00:14:01.039 and like, it doesn't have to be that. It can be way 139 00:14:01.039 --> 00:14:05.720 more subtle. It could be way way easier than that. You know. 140 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:13.759 They can have you put your hands on the wall for fifteen to sixteen hours 141 00:14:13.759 --> 00:14:16.600 a day, you know, in like an l position with your hands on 142 00:14:16.639 --> 00:14:20.759 the wall, and you're not able to move, you know. I mean 143 00:14:20.240 --> 00:14:26.000 it's as simple as that. Just because you've been a deep pattern or you've 144 00:14:26.039 --> 00:14:28.440 been through one of these actual MK Ultra programs, doesn't mean that it was 145 00:14:30.879 --> 00:14:35.720 horrendous to you, Like physically, it's a psychological break. They want to 146 00:14:35.720 --> 00:14:41.879 break your mind. They want to split your consciousness and in half basically, 147 00:14:41.960 --> 00:14:48.919 and then create this other persona, this other compartmentalization of your brain, and 148 00:14:48.919 --> 00:14:56.879 then feed that compartmentalization with your brain with false ideas, false beliefs, false 149 00:14:56.919 --> 00:15:05.559 implanted memory. Now, I believe that the reason for that is to cover 150 00:15:05.720 --> 00:15:15.399 up real operations, what we might actually be doing in space, the militarization 151 00:15:15.720 --> 00:15:20.919 of space, what we might actually be doing with psychics and remote viewers in 152 00:15:20.440 --> 00:15:26.600 these three letter organizations and top secret projects, you know, and the MK 153 00:15:26.799 --> 00:15:31.919 Ultra stuff. You know. I had Kathy O'Brien on my show. I've 154 00:15:31.919 --> 00:15:37.919 had her on twice now, and it really seems like Ryan, that they 155 00:15:39.080 --> 00:15:48.039 were afraid of people rising up and going to Congress and going to government officials 156 00:15:48.039 --> 00:15:50.159 and being like, this is what you did to me. You know, 157 00:15:50.320 --> 00:15:58.000 you you created a person that you can one control. You know, when 158 00:15:58.039 --> 00:16:00.960 you look at the MK ultra on the Monarch program, you see that it 159 00:16:02.080 --> 00:16:08.279 was all Earth based stuff. They were being used for things that I can't 160 00:16:08.320 --> 00:16:15.080 exactly say on here, but like at a white house kind of kinagone level 161 00:16:15.120 --> 00:16:26.519 with trafficking and drug mule and a lot sometimes assassins, disinformation people, misinformation 162 00:16:26.679 --> 00:16:30.759 people, you know, And I think that that is what they were trying 163 00:16:30.799 --> 00:16:34.360 to cover up, and like I said, to cover up what they've been 164 00:16:34.360 --> 00:16:41.159 doing in the space. So they just made a dramatic false and planted memories 165 00:16:41.159 --> 00:16:49.039 to get people talking about something that cannot ever be proven in order to get 166 00:16:49.080 --> 00:16:55.360 everyone believing in that, and then whenever they all believe in the fairytale nonsense 167 00:16:55.600 --> 00:17:04.480 story Space Battle twenty and back advanced technology nonsense. The real thing can basically 168 00:17:04.559 --> 00:17:10.279 be covered up on the planet, including MK ultra, including psychic spies, 169 00:17:11.039 --> 00:17:18.279 including remote possibly remote assassins or remote control people, what what might be going 170 00:17:18.319 --> 00:17:22.279 on with the militarization of space, what we actually have going on in space, 171 00:17:22.240 --> 00:17:29.559 you know, people possibly humans on the Moon and possibly humans on Mars 172 00:17:29.759 --> 00:17:33.720 as well, and that's something that they would really want to cover up. 173 00:17:33.799 --> 00:17:40.799 So they created this whole narrative of secret space program assets and super soldier assets 174 00:17:40.799 --> 00:17:47.079 saving the world from evil aliens and evil reptilions. Man, it is so 175 00:17:47.279 --> 00:17:51.920 important. Is this is so huge, and you've like zoomed into a bunch 176 00:17:51.960 --> 00:17:56.599 of the stuff that I think is the most important, which is you know, 177 00:17:56.000 --> 00:18:03.119 yeah, if you have these crazy theories and conspiracies that go way beyond 178 00:18:03.240 --> 00:18:11.359 the line of comprehension and all kinds of people backing it, you surely can 179 00:18:11.559 --> 00:18:19.920 avoid more of the mundane accusations being made towards particular projects. And you know, 180 00:18:21.640 --> 00:18:26.799 at the same time, we know that people like the CIA, the 181 00:18:26.839 --> 00:18:32.720 government and such, they can't fight fair, and I understand it. You 182 00:18:32.759 --> 00:18:36.000 know, my father in law was a Navy seal and he explained to me. 183 00:18:36.039 --> 00:18:37.039 I remember once, I'm like, oh, I'm sure they like, 184 00:18:37.119 --> 00:18:41.480 you know, trained you in karate or jiu jitsu or something, and he 185 00:18:41.559 --> 00:18:45.720 was like, no, no, they they train you to fight dirty, 186 00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:52.000 and you know, you are trained to basically win no matter what. And 187 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:56.839 our intelligence community is also trained along the same lines. So it only makes 188 00:18:56.839 --> 00:19:00.400 sense that they would do this sort of stuff because it is, you know, 189 00:19:02.519 --> 00:19:06.200 for the protection of civilians. And at the end of the day, 190 00:19:06.240 --> 00:19:08.039 it's so you know, our water stays on, our heat stays on, 191 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:11.720 we keep paying taxes, YadA, YadA, YadA. And I think it's 192 00:19:11.759 --> 00:19:17.960 super important that you mentioned how crazy with the SSP and a lot of this 193 00:19:18.039 --> 00:19:25.160 other stuff, how willing people are to acknowledge and believe one hundred percent of 194 00:19:25.200 --> 00:19:30.440 it no matter where it's coming from. And that's a big deal because there's 195 00:19:30.480 --> 00:19:36.400 a lot of real stuff that you mentioned with monarch MK, Ultra Sydney, 196 00:19:36.400 --> 00:19:41.839 Godly remote viewing, the use of hallucinogenics, and all of these army intelligence 197 00:19:41.839 --> 00:19:45.960 programs, DA, SRI, I mean, all the three letter agencies doing 198 00:19:47.119 --> 00:19:52.920 the real business behind closed doors. And you know, I remember this takes 199 00:19:52.920 --> 00:19:56.519 me back. I remember when I went to my first SSEE meeting, which 200 00:19:56.559 --> 00:20:04.000 is the Society for Scientific Exploration of which I'm a member, and I realized 201 00:20:04.119 --> 00:20:10.519 quickly that this stuff is real. There are people doing this and there's people 202 00:20:11.039 --> 00:20:14.680 like when I went to my first IRVA meeting, which is the International Remote 203 00:20:14.759 --> 00:20:18.519 Viewers Association, I realized, you know, we're just talking over you know, 204 00:20:19.200 --> 00:20:25.440 as people have these demonstrations and you know people, there are people that 205 00:20:25.599 --> 00:20:30.400 remote view for a living. So these are very real. Obviously, these 206 00:20:30.400 --> 00:20:33.359 are masters of their craft, not people that are you know, out back 207 00:20:33.920 --> 00:20:37.319 just shooting the crap behind the bar saying oh yeah, I remote view on 208 00:20:37.319 --> 00:20:45.319 the weekends. This is real stuff, and it is unfortunately very tainted because 209 00:20:45.359 --> 00:20:52.519 of everybody accepting everything. And yeah, the secret space program thing that really 210 00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:57.240 reminds me of someone I know, you know, and someone I respect very 211 00:20:57.319 --> 00:21:02.200 much, which is Shane Bales. And I love what he mentioned that the 212 00:21:02.319 --> 00:21:07.920 secret space is between your ears? Am I right exactly, That's exactly what 213 00:21:07.960 --> 00:21:12.279 it is. And I my personal belief and there's no proof behind this. 214 00:21:12.279 --> 00:21:18.160 This is just a theory and speculation, right, And I want to make 215 00:21:18.200 --> 00:21:25.559 that very clear here. But I believe that the MK Ultra programs were doubling 216 00:21:25.720 --> 00:21:30.759 as something else. There was another reason to do them. And what I've 217 00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:38.400 realized is a lot of these psychics and remote viewers that automatically had the abilities 218 00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:42.599 right they weren't trained to remote view, They didn't have a manual. There 219 00:21:42.640 --> 00:21:48.400 wasn't a step by step process in order to be able to remote view. 220 00:21:48.559 --> 00:21:56.079 Right. How they got their abilities was through a near death experience or an 221 00:21:56.079 --> 00:22:03.039 out of body experience. Several people that I've talked to and that I know 222 00:22:03.160 --> 00:22:08.640 that I've talked to personally, their abilities were unlocked through a near death experience 223 00:22:08.759 --> 00:22:14.440 or an out of body experience. Now again I'm differentiating here between the people 224 00:22:14.480 --> 00:22:18.119 that have been trained to do it. Now, you don't have to have 225 00:22:18.160 --> 00:22:19.920 an out of body experience. You don't have to have a near death experience 226 00:22:21.079 --> 00:22:25.559 with the create the ability to remote view. Right, That's not what I'm 227 00:22:25.559 --> 00:22:30.720 saying. I'm seeing the people that very first started this remote viewing had near 228 00:22:30.799 --> 00:22:37.039 death experiences. The psychics, the real legit psychics, the real leg remote 229 00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:41.400 viewers again that wasn't trained, that just automatically had the abilities like Ego Swan 230 00:22:42.200 --> 00:22:48.319 Right, he mentioned several times he was probably one of the best remote viewers 231 00:22:48.319 --> 00:22:53.839 in the history of remote viewing. Right. He had a many out of 232 00:22:53.880 --> 00:22:59.960 body experiences whenever he was a kid due to being bullied. He mentioned that 233 00:23:00.400 --> 00:23:07.359 so many times. So, what were they doing in the mk Ultra programs, 234 00:23:08.240 --> 00:23:15.839 and then what was the Monroe Institute also doing. Monroe Institute was trying 235 00:23:15.880 --> 00:23:22.519 to induce a out of body experience, an astral experience, to get your 236 00:23:22.559 --> 00:23:25.839 consciousness or your spirit or your soul or whatever you want to call it outside 237 00:23:25.839 --> 00:23:34.279 of your body. And that is a process of you can also get that 238 00:23:34.440 --> 00:23:44.640 kind of process through trauma to traumatize somebody to such a degree that their consciousness 239 00:23:44.680 --> 00:23:51.720 can literally leave their body. And that's a lot of what they were doing 240 00:23:51.880 --> 00:23:56.680 within the mk Ultra programs. They were traumatizing people. So I'm putting these 241 00:23:56.799 --> 00:24:02.880 pieces together, I'm like, Okay, well, it's really interesting that they 242 00:24:02.920 --> 00:24:08.880 were doing this this trauma based stuff in order to compartmentalize the brain and induce 243 00:24:10.039 --> 00:24:17.720 this this other personality which they've been known for creating multiple personality disorder d ID 244 00:24:18.200 --> 00:24:22.680 and all of these other mental health issues in these mental health problems through the 245 00:24:23.039 --> 00:24:29.880 mk Ultra programs. So it's not out of the realm of possibility that this 246 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:37.519 was a dual use purpose that they were not only trying to create slaves, 247 00:24:37.400 --> 00:24:45.519 trafficking slaves, assassins, disinformationalists, and whole list of other categories that could 248 00:24:45.519 --> 00:24:55.119 be used for MK ultra, but they were also trying to create psychics. 249 00:24:55.519 --> 00:25:04.079 And then that gets into my theory. After the CIA shut down the Stargate 250 00:25:04.200 --> 00:25:11.519 project in ninety five saying that there wasn't any useful intelligence data ever collected out 251 00:25:11.519 --> 00:25:18.960 of the program, which is a lie. They no Army intelligence or DA 252 00:25:19.119 --> 00:25:26.359 would ever keep a program running for almost twenty years to say that they didn't 253 00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:30.440 collect any valuable intelligence data. If they didn't get any good results within a 254 00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:34.319 year, they would have just shut it down then, right, So my 255 00:25:36.319 --> 00:25:45.759 personal thoughts are is that they created a different program, a much more nefarious 256 00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:52.480 program, a much more invasive program. They found a different application for remote 257 00:25:52.559 --> 00:25:59.240 viewing other than just psychic spies and spying on other countries, and sometimes I'm 258 00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:07.240 within the United States, I think they switched this that evolved into remote control 259 00:26:07.559 --> 00:26:18.400 and remote influence and sometimes even remote assassin program. And some people will disagree 260 00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:26.000 with me on that because again there's no proof for that, right, it's 261 00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:29.920 just my personal thoughts and my personal opinions at connecting all of these dots, 262 00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:34.559 and but there is kind of proof for it. Whenever you you know, 263 00:26:34.680 --> 00:26:40.680 look around at our reality, you know, people are behaving pretty pretty strangely 264 00:26:40.799 --> 00:26:45.200 since uh, you know a lot of these I don't know what they call 265 00:26:45.279 --> 00:26:52.839 them. I guess disasters at schools and at bars and stuff like that, 266 00:26:52.920 --> 00:27:00.480 right, And I think that that is what the program of volve into. 267 00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:06.039 It evolved into a remote influence or remote control. And there's actually a document 268 00:27:06.599 --> 00:27:11.279 from ed May that I have that lays out the step by step process in 269 00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:18.240 order to remote influence people. So it's a very real phenomenon. It is 270 00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:22.720 possible. There's a document for it that tells you how to do it. 271 00:27:23.119 --> 00:27:26.480 Now, some people might say, oh, well, it's not, as 272 00:27:27.119 --> 00:27:30.279 you know, intrusive or whatever, but I'm like, hey, listen, 273 00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:36.519 we influence ourselves every day, Ryan, you know, with our thoughts and 274 00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:40.640 our ideas. And some people use affirmation. You know, they'll wake up 275 00:27:40.680 --> 00:27:42.559 they'll say an affirmation, or they'll say an affirmation before they go to sleep 276 00:27:44.319 --> 00:27:48.559 or whatever. That's you influencing yourself. So why would I not be able 277 00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:56.519 to influence other people psychically? If I can influence myself, I would be 278 00:27:56.519 --> 00:28:03.039 able to influence other people as well if I'm a powerful enough psychic, Right, 279 00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:11.400 And I think that's exactly what this whole thing evolved into was a psychic 280 00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:19.079 remote influence and a lot of times sometimes a remote assassin program. Now I 281 00:28:19.119 --> 00:28:23.240 had the different idea and a different concept of what this was before, But 282 00:28:23.319 --> 00:28:30.119 then whenever I started thinking about it more, because Len Buchanan talked about that, 283 00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:36.640 he was approached by men in black. They asked him if he could 284 00:28:37.079 --> 00:28:45.519 kill an individual with his mind, and he said he said that he wouldn't 285 00:28:45.519 --> 00:28:48.039 do it. But I asked him in our interview together. I was like, 286 00:28:48.119 --> 00:28:52.839 hey, like, is it possible to do? Though? Could you 287 00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:56.240 have done it if you wanted to do it? And he said, yes, 288 00:28:56.519 --> 00:29:00.680 yes I could have. And I was like, huh, well that 289 00:29:00.759 --> 00:29:06.279 kind of seems like the lazy way to do it, right. You wouldn't 290 00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:11.720 just want to psychically kill somebody outright, you know, you would want to 291 00:29:14.599 --> 00:29:26.519 psychically influence or psychically control somebody else to kill the target for you. And 292 00:29:26.759 --> 00:29:33.920 like, ohly shit, this is exactly what they've done and what they have 293 00:29:34.160 --> 00:29:42.200 been doing. And again I think that that program evolved once more, and 294 00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:51.440 then that program turned into a technology to where they don't have to use psychics 295 00:29:51.559 --> 00:29:56.559 or remove viewers to be able to influence people anymore. They just have a 296 00:29:56.599 --> 00:30:03.400 technology that they can foot on which just proof of this mus be two K 297 00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:10.440 technology. There's a technology to be able to control your nervous system. You 298 00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:19.960 know, there's patterns for all of this stuff, and there's evidence that that's 299 00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:25.759 exactly what has happened, and they've completely taken the human element out of this. 300 00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:30.359 They no longer use psychics or removiewers because they've developed it into a technology. 301 00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:34.119 And that's exactly what Sane the Ruiner talks about too as well, that 302 00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:41.759 they're trying to take our natural spiritual abilities and duplicate it and turn it into 303 00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:47.480 some kind of technology to be able to use on the public. And then 304 00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:53.119 that also gets into supplanting thoughts, ideas, memories, beliefs into your head 305 00:30:53.480 --> 00:31:00.960 via technology. I decided to a Lena Freeland on my show that show will 306 00:31:02.039 --> 00:31:08.640 be really soon, and she's written several books on this technology and how harmful 307 00:31:08.799 --> 00:31:15.640 and dangerous it can be to the public. And she also talks about dual 308 00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:22.799 use from military technology as well. They do. They don't do anything for 309 00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:27.119 just one reason. It's a multilayered purpose. They have it for something that 310 00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:32.839 they can use militarily, and then they also have it another use for it 311 00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:38.200 that can be used on the public and you know, the general population. 312 00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:45.440 So whenever you look at these mk Ultra programs and you realize that a lot 313 00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:55.559 of these medications that people are on now came directly from the mk Ultra programs, 314 00:31:56.079 --> 00:32:00.200 then you look at how they would psychically drive people in the m k 315 00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:05.039 Autra programs that would take any looped audio message and play it over and over 316 00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:09.279 and over again. Nobody knows what was on those looped audio messages, and 317 00:32:09.920 --> 00:32:16.480 they've just transferred that type of loop audio message onto a TV screen in your 318 00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:22.519 living room and in your bedroom and in your pocket. Right, so they 319 00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:29.079 depattern you with a traumatic event, They drug you, which I looked up 320 00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:36.319 statistics from twenty and fourteen to two thousand and sixteen, and almost half the 321 00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:44.720 US population is on some sort of pharmaceutical medication. Sixty six percent of adults 322 00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:51.200 in the United States are on a pharmaceutical medication. And then they psychically drive 323 00:32:51.279 --> 00:33:00.200 you. They put that looped repeated message on your TV screen on your own 324 00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:07.559 to program you to believe whatever they want you to believe, which is exactly 325 00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:13.519 what they were doing in the early fifties with the mk Ultra programs. Now 326 00:33:13.519 --> 00:33:23.000 it's just open air testing. They're just doing it to everyone collectively super dark. 327 00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:29.039 And yeah, I mean I can get why they would want something where 328 00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:31.440 they can just flip a switch more like a technology, although we already have 329 00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:37.160 it within us as human beings. And you brought something up that kind of 330 00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:43.000 ties into something you said earlier, which is much how the mk ultra splits 331 00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:47.759 your consciousness and splits your mind in half. And I know this sounds strangely 332 00:33:49.039 --> 00:33:54.319 similar to hemi sync technology, which comes from go figure, the Monroe Institute. 333 00:33:54.720 --> 00:34:00.359 And for those that are unaware, Robert Monroe is an interesting at you 334 00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:06.200 should definitely read his book Journeys out of the Body. He was a Virginia 335 00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:12.559 businessman that started having experiences that we're quite literally out of his body into this 336 00:34:12.639 --> 00:34:16.559 second what he called the second body. But yeah, this Monroe Institute, 337 00:34:16.920 --> 00:34:24.119 Robert Monroe, and this technology of quite literally hemsinc Technology. What are your 338 00:34:24.159 --> 00:34:29.480 thoughts of hem sink And you know the fact that it it seems like just 339 00:34:29.559 --> 00:34:34.599 about everybody and anybody is using the Monroe app these days that is involved with 340 00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:39.760 government intelligence. And that's something that you didn't hear from me. But I 341 00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:44.079 mean, they have an app and I've talked to a lot of people in 342 00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:45.880 intelligence and they're like, oh, yeah, we got it. We use 343 00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:49.960 it all the time, and they are taking trips to the Monroe Institute and 344 00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:53.400 getting trained in this, and it's sort of a tongue in cheek. Everybody's 345 00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:59.679 doing it, nobody's talking about it. Sort of a thing in intelligence circles. 346 00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:07.079 So they sound strangely similar to splitting your mind in half. Just it 347 00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:13.760 is very similar. And Army Intelligence and the CIA were both investigating the Monroe 348 00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:21.360 Institute as well as actually mentioned in the growth Leame documents, the declassified documents 349 00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:30.440 how they paid Robert Monroe I think two hundred dollars to go in and study 350 00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:37.719 to send Army Intelligence people to the Monroe Institute to study this auto body HEMI 351 00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:47.079 sink technology the robber Monroe was working on. And there's declassified documents of the 352 00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:57.559 report that Army Intelligence and the CIA both wrote a report on the Monroe Institute. 353 00:35:58.599 --> 00:36:01.440 And I think the because some of the people that I've interviewed from the 354 00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:13.079 Stargate project commented on that they did have access to the Monroe Institute's Hemisinc. 355 00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:21.039 Tapes and they were able to use them, but it wasn't like a requirement. 356 00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:27.360 So there's a really big connection between the Monroe Institute and Army Intelligence and 357 00:36:27.559 --> 00:36:32.119 the CIA in all of these different projects, and I haven't quite connected the 358 00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:40.159 dots yet on what that role is now. I do know that some people 359 00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:46.039 have gotten confused by the Monroe Institute because they had a project it was called 360 00:36:46.039 --> 00:36:52.920 the Gateway Project. Was the Monroe Institute's hemisink trying to induce an out of 361 00:36:52.920 --> 00:37:01.719 body experience, and some people that were involved in the Gateway Project got confused 362 00:37:01.800 --> 00:37:07.079 and thought that they were a part of a remote viewing DIA Army Intelligence. 363 00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:15.000 Yeah, that's really muddied the waters between those two different programs. And it's 364 00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:22.360 also important to make clear as well, is that the Monroe Institute wasn't into 365 00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:30.960 remote viewing. That had nothing to do with remote viewing, but somehow they 366 00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:36.000 are linked in there in some way. I'm gonna have to read through all 367 00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:42.639 of those documents again and try and figure out what the linkage is there in 368 00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:49.280 some kind of factual evidence, but it has muddied the waters between the Monroe 369 00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:57.480 Institute's Gateway Project and then THEDIA, Army Intelligence Stargate project as well. Well. 370 00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:01.320 The Monroe Instue is called the Gateway Experience, it's not the Gateway Project. 371 00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:07.800 But I think the people have gotten those two things confused, so it's 372 00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:13.960 important to make the distinction there that Monroe Institute was not studying remote viewing, 373 00:38:14.119 --> 00:38:23.199 had really nothing to do with the IA and Army Intelligence Remote Viewing program or 374 00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:31.400 ESP program psychic program, and that they were two separate things running kind of 375 00:38:31.400 --> 00:38:37.840 simultaneously. Even though the CIA and Army Intelligence did write reports, there's to 376 00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:40.760 classified reports on the Monroe Institute. I'm just going to have to do some 377 00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:47.800 more study on that and try and figure out the real connections and why they 378 00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:53.360 were so interested in the Monroe Institute inducing an out of body experience. But 379 00:38:53.480 --> 00:38:59.239 my personal thoughts is that it is connected to remote viewing, and if they 380 00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:08.119 can induce a out of body experience without having to use trauma, then they 381 00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:16.840 can create psychics on their own. They can create psychic spies for intelligence data, 382 00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:27.360 they can create psychic remote controllers, remote influencers. I think that without 383 00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:31.440 any proof, I think that that's a solid connection, in a solid theory 384 00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:38.960 that because a lot of people didn't survive those MK ultra programs and they're just 385 00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:47.199 wasting assets, they're just wasting people. Cathie O'Brien said, even very few 386 00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:55.559 actually made it out of the programs and got to be used in any kind 387 00:39:55.599 --> 00:40:00.519 of operation. And then even the people that we're used in the operation, 388 00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:07.800 we're normally killed by the age of thirty, right, So when you look 389 00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:10.159 at it like that, you would think that they would try and figure out 390 00:40:10.239 --> 00:40:22.400 a different way to create a site gig or a spy or a remote viewer 391 00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:29.679 or somebody that has esp abilities other than trauma, because you're just wasting assets 392 00:40:29.719 --> 00:40:37.280 that way, you're wasting good people, right, and their eyes, they're 393 00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:39.480 wasting good people. Right. That's not my personal I don't think any of 394 00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:45.039 that stuff should ever be done to any individual, right. But I think 395 00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:47.320 if you look at it like that, that they're trying to inducing that out 396 00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:52.639 of body experience. And if my theory is correct in that the outer body 397 00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:57.559 experience or near death experience has something to do with these abilities, then they 398 00:40:57.599 --> 00:41:00.800 would want to study that. They would want to get to the bottom of 399 00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:06.639 that in order of instead of just traumatizing people to unlock the abilities or create 400 00:41:06.679 --> 00:41:12.519 a impay ultra slave to do god knows what on the planet, they would 401 00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:20.320 just do it HEMI syncly to give the consciousness out of the body. Sure, 402 00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:24.039 it makes perfect sense. And you know, I really like that you 403 00:41:24.159 --> 00:41:30.440 mentioned the scenario with Ingo Swan, whose story is every bit as intriguing as 404 00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:37.760 Robert Monroe's, and how these near death out of body experiences are still, 405 00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:42.360 you know, more or less a psychic break, albeit a naturally occurring one. 406 00:41:43.599 --> 00:41:49.440 So obviously, when you're trying to recreate this in a lab, you 407 00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:53.960 know, surroundings, things could get ugly really quick. And something I've heard 408 00:41:54.000 --> 00:42:00.199 about that is interesting, and I don't know just how consequenceial consequential it is, 409 00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:07.840 because we are seeing a lot of drastic actions by people who typically would 410 00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:15.519 not be taking these drastic actions, and it appears as if some of their 411 00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:23.840 ability to follow through with these objectives come from outside of themselves or you know, 412 00:42:24.079 --> 00:42:29.639 quote unquote out of body. And I'm wondering how much of this is 413 00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:34.440 that patterning that you're discussing, because it is all about getting something, much 414 00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:38.039 like training an animal, getting something used to a pattern, you know, 415 00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:43.719 kind of like Pavlov in his dogs, that Pavlovian theory where you want a 416 00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:47.280 desired objective in the physical and if you just keep doing the same thing in 417 00:42:47.320 --> 00:42:52.840 the background, you will get that. And I wanted to ask you if 418 00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:57.639 you think if there's any cases in more modern times that you could point a 419 00:42:57.679 --> 00:43:00.039 finger out and say, you know, I'm not sure, but this may 420 00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:09.280 have been part of part of a government program. I really think that a 421 00:43:09.400 --> 00:43:20.039 large majority of it is. I think that the contact experiences, the UFO 422 00:43:21.519 --> 00:43:31.239 sightings, traumatic events that have happened in the past twenty years involving you know, 423 00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:40.519 schools, um, great schools majority UM, and bars and superstores and 424 00:43:40.679 --> 00:43:43.760 all that. You're just gonna have to put two and two together here. 425 00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:47.079 Um, yeah, you know exactly what I'm talking about. Ye have all 426 00:43:47.199 --> 00:43:59.960 been psychological operations, psychological experiments. And when it comes to the it's exactly 427 00:44:00.199 --> 00:44:08.079 like what's happening now with the the balloon nonsense, right, and the media 428 00:44:08.199 --> 00:44:17.199 jumping on the bandwagon of unidentified flying objects, right, They're like, oh, 429 00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:21.800 there's so many, so many UFOs, we're getting invaded, there's so 430 00:44:21.840 --> 00:44:24.960 many I don't identify things that's happening in the sky right now, And gets 431 00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:31.840 why wouldn't they have mentioned this to ten to fifteen or even twenty years ago. 432 00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:38.280 You know, it's an agenda, it's a it's an operation, right, 433 00:44:38.320 --> 00:44:45.639 Why didn't they Why did it take since the roswell of inn of nineteen 434 00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:52.480 forty seven all the way until twenty twenty for the government to admit that there 435 00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:58.760 are real unidentified flying objects in the sky. They just want us to forget 436 00:44:58.800 --> 00:45:01.840 about all of that other nonsense because they finally came out and admitted it. 437 00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:06.639 And the only reason that they would do that is because it's a psychological operation. 438 00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:15.039 Literally, that's that's the only reason that they would do it. If 439 00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:22.079 it wasn't a psychological operation, they would have admitted it way sooner. Decades 440 00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:27.400 ago they've been like, oh, yeah, I guess what, there are 441 00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:36.840 unidentified flying objects or an unidentified aero phenomenon going on. But they've waited so 442 00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:51.480 long, and that only concludes one scenario that it's a full fledged psychological operation. 443 00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:54.519 And we know that the Air Force was also interested in MK Ultra stuff 444 00:45:57.199 --> 00:46:06.400 apparently, which again there's no proof for this either, but apparently the Air 445 00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:14.000 Force picked up the mk Ultra programs after the CIA took the fall for them, 446 00:46:14.039 --> 00:46:16.719 and they just picked up right where the CIA left off. And they've 447 00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:28.239 been running the operation since since the mid fifties, which makes a lot of 448 00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:35.679 sense surrounding et contacts, surrounding UFOs. I mean, he's in charge of 449 00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:43.639 the airspace, the Air Force, so it makes sense that if they were 450 00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:52.000 running some kind of op, it would have to do with aliens and UFOs. 451 00:46:52.800 --> 00:47:01.000 Now, I'm not saying that aliens don't exist, right, don't confuse 452 00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:06.239 of audiences and confusing what I'm saying here. I'm not saying that they don't 453 00:47:06.280 --> 00:47:15.159 exist and that people's contact experiences weren't real to them. But it is very 454 00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:21.320 possible, Ryan, with the kind of technology that we have now, the 455 00:47:21.400 --> 00:47:27.320 V two K technology, the manipulation of our nervous system, with the implantation 456 00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:32.360 of thoughts, ideas, beliefs directly into our head. Distance does not matter. 457 00:47:34.239 --> 00:47:39.079 They can do this to anyone anywhere on the planet. And it's just 458 00:47:39.239 --> 00:47:50.599 interesting. After the CIA's MK Ultra programs went open air to everybody on the 459 00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:59.920 planet, everyone started having these contact experiences and saying that they've been abducted by 460 00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:08.360 aliens, that they've seen several UFOs in the sky. It's just I don't 461 00:48:08.360 --> 00:48:13.440 know, maybe it's just a coincidence. Who knows, but I think that 462 00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:19.320 it's it's very, very strange, and we've seen this uptick since the early 463 00:48:19.360 --> 00:48:28.079 two thousands of contactees. The abduction phenomenon, which we know that the abductions 464 00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:32.599 started with Betty and Barney Hill. Welts not started there, but that was 465 00:48:32.679 --> 00:48:38.199 the most mainstream one that was ever reported in nineteen sixty one, you know, 466 00:48:38.280 --> 00:48:43.320 and then it's just kind of snowballed from there. And again, nineteen 467 00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:47.000 sixty one was after all of them came ultra programs. It was after World 468 00:48:47.000 --> 00:49:00.880 War Two. I can't find any documentation describing any one being abducted by a 469 00:49:01.039 --> 00:49:07.039 UFO. Now this is very specific here. I'm not talking about entity abduction 470 00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:14.320 or fairy abduction or any of that stuff. I can't find one case. 471 00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:19.480 And if someone has it, please send it to me or something, because 472 00:49:19.480 --> 00:49:24.960 I'd be very interested to read about it. That before Betty and Barnie Hill 473 00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:31.519 of nineteen sixty one, that they were abducted by a UFO and taken on 474 00:49:31.639 --> 00:49:42.760 a ship and experimented on by aliens. Can't find it, no, not 475 00:49:43.159 --> 00:49:47.159 that I'm aware of. Unless you know, it's super super rare and old, 476 00:49:49.280 --> 00:49:58.199 and it does seem like these psychological operations kind of have a parapsychology twist 477 00:49:58.920 --> 00:50:05.079 to them, and the consequences are crazy. I mean, and I'm probably 478 00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:07.599 gonna get into a little bit of trouble, and I probably shouldn't even say 479 00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:13.159 what I'm going to say mentioning in a comment, but you know, a 480 00:50:13.199 --> 00:50:17.480 government remote viewing program that had a lot to do with the invasion of Iraq 481 00:50:19.039 --> 00:50:22.400 and even the use of the Stargate program. I won't mention the viewer, 482 00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:27.559 but you know him and I know him to view and jump into Saddam's head, 483 00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:36.360 you know. And and then we have Saddam Hussein being taken out get 484 00:50:36.400 --> 00:50:40.760 this by his own people. I mean, if that isn't proof of this, 485 00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:45.679 I mean, most Iraqis love the guy. They had him on his 486 00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:49.679 watching, they had they had pictures of him on their car, you know, 487 00:50:50.360 --> 00:50:53.079 sent trees his picture on their watches. I mean, they hated his 488 00:50:53.159 --> 00:50:58.599 son, but most loved Saddam. Nad pictures of him in their house. 489 00:50:59.199 --> 00:51:06.079 But I was floored after the whole Iraqi situation that he was taken out by 490 00:51:06.079 --> 00:51:12.000 his own people. And it just it perfectly seems explained by some of these 491 00:51:12.280 --> 00:51:17.199 declassified CIA documents. Like you're discussing that are coming out where they have figured 492 00:51:17.320 --> 00:51:22.159 this patterning and I wanted to read a cleally quick This is from the Monroe 493 00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:29.719 Institute. Yeah. Magic and the amount of data that goes into this. 494 00:51:29.760 --> 00:51:35.599 I don't think people understand how much they have studied this, so it sounds 495 00:51:35.639 --> 00:51:39.880 crazy, but here it is magic, perfectly explained and declassified CIA document. 496 00:51:40.320 --> 00:51:45.760 This technique involves the use of consciousness to achieve desire objectives in the physical, 497 00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:52.280 emotional, or intellectual sphere. It involves concentration on the desired objective while in 498 00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:59.079 focus twelfth state, extension of the individual's perception that the objective into the whole 499 00:51:59.199 --> 00:52:04.960 expanded conciousness and its projection into the universe, with the intention that the desired 500 00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:09.360 object is already a matter of established achievement which is destined to be realized within 501 00:52:09.360 --> 00:52:15.400 the timeframe specified. This particular methodology is based on the belief that the thought 502 00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:22.039 patterns generated by our consciousness in a state of expanded awareness create holograms which present 503 00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:28.000 the situation we desire to spring about and in doing so, establish the basis 504 00:52:28.039 --> 00:52:34.039 for actual realization of the goal. Once the thought generated hologram of the sought 505 00:52:34.039 --> 00:52:39.320 after objective is established in the universe, it becomes an aspect of reality which 506 00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:46.559 interacts with the universal hologram to bring about the desired objective, which might not 507 00:52:47.360 --> 00:52:54.159 otherwise be possible under other circumstances or ever occur. In other words, the 508 00:52:54.320 --> 00:53:00.280 technique of patterning recognizes the fact that, since consciousness is the source orst of 509 00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:04.840 all reality, our thoughts have the power to influence the development of reality and 510 00:53:04.920 --> 00:53:09.079 time space, and applies to us if those thoughts can be projected with adequate 511 00:53:09.199 --> 00:53:15.920 intensity. However, the most complicated and more complicated the objective sought, and 512 00:53:16.159 --> 00:53:22.039 the more radically it departs from our current reality, the more time the universal 513 00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:29.119 hologram will need to reorient the reality sphere to accommodate our desires. Monroe Trainer's 514 00:53:29.239 --> 00:53:37.039 caution against attempting to force the pace of this process because the individual could succeed 515 00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:45.800 in dislocating his existing reality with drastic consequences. Wow, so you're right, 516 00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:51.199 man. I think it's perfect that they have got this down to a science. 517 00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:59.960 Wow. That is incredible. That is put into words that are easily 518 00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:02.280 digestible. I'm kind of all over the place, but that is a perfect 519 00:54:04.199 --> 00:54:10.960 explanation for everything. Is happening in our reality. Now. Imagine if they 520 00:54:12.000 --> 00:54:23.000 can put that fake holographic experience that is designed for a specific group of people 521 00:54:23.320 --> 00:54:31.920 into everyone's heads, right, and I think that's exactly what they've done. 522 00:54:31.920 --> 00:54:36.079 Wholly crap, dude, you need to if you can send me that quote 523 00:54:36.079 --> 00:54:39.519 where the document or whatever you man, I will. I've got it. 524 00:54:39.599 --> 00:54:43.280 Yeah, dude it. I can't tell you where I got it, but 525 00:54:43.320 --> 00:54:47.880 I got it. It's Please send that document to me because that explains everything 526 00:54:47.960 --> 00:54:53.679 that I've been trying to say and explains it all. And a very neatly 527 00:54:53.760 --> 00:55:00.800 put together paragraph or a couple of paragraphs that you just read. Incredible. 528 00:55:00.920 --> 00:55:04.960 It's incredible. And you know, the part that really spooks me is that 529 00:55:05.039 --> 00:55:10.000 it kind of says anything can be done if you have enough time allotted to 530 00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:14.960 doing it. You just can't force it too quickly, too quickly, too 531 00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:19.960 powerfully, or you will. Literally. It sounds like the individual whoever that 532 00:55:20.559 --> 00:55:25.800 is, whether the remote viewer or the quote unquote magician from a parapsychological standpoint, 533 00:55:27.480 --> 00:55:30.920 but whoever is doing the concentration towards the desired objective, you don't want 534 00:55:30.920 --> 00:55:37.119 to push them too far because you could dislocate them from this reality. If 535 00:55:37.199 --> 00:55:43.199 we they'll think that the holographic projection reality that they created in their head was 536 00:55:43.280 --> 00:55:46.920 actually real. Yeah, it sounds like they would just, I don't know, 537 00:55:47.719 --> 00:55:53.840 just completely dislocate from our existing reality. And that's I don't know if 538 00:55:53.880 --> 00:56:00.880 that means they would go mad or if we would have something like Andela effect. 539 00:56:00.320 --> 00:56:05.519 I really don't know what that means, but I think that the methodology 540 00:56:05.559 --> 00:56:09.239 involved explains pretty well that it's pretty scary. Much like you said, just 541 00:56:09.280 --> 00:56:14.920 about anything can be accomplished if they put their minds to it, no pund 542 00:56:14.960 --> 00:56:22.639 intended. Wow, that's really incredible. Um, I'm glad that that exists 543 00:56:22.639 --> 00:56:27.920 because it just just explained everything that I've been trying to say this entire time 544 00:56:28.000 --> 00:56:30.480 during this interview, and what I've been trying to say for like a year 545 00:56:30.559 --> 00:56:37.440 now. You know that we especially like an aggregorical reality. I've been trying 546 00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:42.480 to explain it in a different way, but the same outcome, right, 547 00:56:44.039 --> 00:56:46.239 And I think that's a really good way to explain it. Yeah, that 548 00:56:46.400 --> 00:56:53.000 you put your thoughts, ideas, energies into and then it becomes real in 549 00:56:53.039 --> 00:57:00.960 your reality, and the more people that believe in that thought idea that's created. 550 00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:07.239 The more power, more power and more energy that's been accumulated into it 551 00:57:07.280 --> 00:57:14.159 makes it more real in our reality because I think that we are that powerful, 552 00:57:14.599 --> 00:57:22.119 but our consciousness is that powerful that it can literally create something that isn't 553 00:57:22.360 --> 00:57:28.400 even real. Now. It can be real to us, right, but 554 00:57:28.599 --> 00:57:34.480 a blanketed real reality for everyone. You know, it's like people looking for 555 00:57:34.679 --> 00:57:40.760 like a singular truth, right, They're just they want to blanketed singular truth 556 00:57:40.800 --> 00:57:45.719 out there. They just and if it doesn't align with their previously established beliefs, 557 00:57:45.800 --> 00:57:49.800 then they throw it out the door. Right. Well, I mean 558 00:57:49.840 --> 00:57:52.480 I have news for a lot of these people. There is no singular truth. 559 00:57:53.400 --> 00:58:01.039 There is not one explanation for all of this phenomenon. It's multi layered. 560 00:58:01.960 --> 00:58:10.280 There's different reasons for everything, and there's multiple reasons for everything. Things 561 00:58:10.320 --> 00:58:21.719 just don't happen for one singular reason. It's a multi layered many branches to 562 00:58:21.840 --> 00:58:24.920 the tree, and there's branches on those branches, and there's branches on those 563 00:58:24.920 --> 00:58:32.400 branches, right, And digging down deep and bringing this whole thing down the 564 00:58:32.480 --> 00:58:39.920 earth and realizing that a lot of this stuff is due to our own psyche 565 00:58:40.159 --> 00:58:45.679 and what we are creating in our reality, and that's been the biggest perpetuator 566 00:58:45.960 --> 00:58:55.760 of the alien and ety phenomenon. Right, That's why it's a spiritual experience. 567 00:58:55.800 --> 00:59:05.039 That's why it's a consciousness experience. It's like a holographic projection. And 568 00:59:05.079 --> 00:59:15.760 that's also why no one has ever met a physical extraterrestrial that you can literally 569 00:59:15.519 --> 00:59:22.000 reach out and touch, that's physical as me and you Ryan, that's sitting 570 00:59:22.119 --> 00:59:24.960 in your room, that you can reach out and shake hands with, that's 571 00:59:25.000 --> 00:59:30.760 not in a astral form, that's not in a dream state, that you're 572 00:59:30.800 --> 00:59:37.599 not experienced under experiencing under some kind of hallucinogenic drug or some other form of 573 00:59:37.519 --> 00:59:44.079 drug. You know. That is the reason, because it's when it's within 574 00:59:44.239 --> 00:59:49.599 us. It's happening within us, is happening within our head, within our 575 00:59:49.719 --> 00:59:54.320 psyche. That's why they're not physical, because they can't be physical because they 576 00:59:54.320 --> 01:00:04.639 are a part of us, and it's a sort of fabric of our psyche. 577 01:00:04.920 --> 01:00:08.679 Or it's exactly what you just read in that document from the Monroe Institute, 578 01:00:09.440 --> 01:00:19.559 and it's a holographic projection. And when you take that holographic projection as 579 01:00:19.599 --> 01:00:30.320 something real, then you've you've just you're just basically creating stuff and putting it 580 01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:34.000 out there. And that's why no one has any physical evidence. That's why 581 01:00:34.079 --> 01:00:40.679 no one has any physical evidence of abductions. That's why people have never met 582 01:00:40.719 --> 01:00:51.559 a physical et because they're not physical. They're within you. They are you, 583 01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:55.239 and they are a part of inner space, not outer space. So 584 01:00:55.360 --> 01:01:00.280 we've been programmed to think of space as just being outer space. Right. 585 01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:05.679 None of the NASA doesn't say outer space anymore, none of these people ever, 586 01:01:05.920 --> 01:01:07.239 none of the three letter organizations, they Air Force or any of that 587 01:01:07.320 --> 01:01:12.400 ever say outer space anymore. They just say space. And we've been so 588 01:01:12.480 --> 01:01:19.159 programmed into thinking that when we hear the word space that they're automatically referring to 589 01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:22.480 outer space. When you look up the definition of what space is, space 590 01:01:22.519 --> 01:01:29.679 can be anything. Space could be extra room in your house. Space can 591 01:01:29.719 --> 01:01:38.679 be the ocean. Space could be in your head, inner space, you 592 01:01:38.719 --> 01:01:45.000 know. So that is what I believe a lot of this phenomenon. And 593 01:01:46.079 --> 01:01:51.960 you know, I'm not trying to downplay, you know, people's abduction experiences 594 01:01:52.079 --> 01:01:55.320 or their contact experiences or anything like that. If they think that they experienced 595 01:01:55.400 --> 01:02:00.519 that, that's fine, you know, And the real people that have experienced 596 01:02:00.519 --> 01:02:07.199 that don't care what you say. They don't care. You can call them 597 01:02:07.280 --> 01:02:09.639 liars, you can call it. You just tell them that their experiences are 598 01:02:10.039 --> 01:02:13.280 made up, that it's all in their head, and that they have no 599 01:02:13.360 --> 01:02:15.639 evidence, no proof, and they don't care. Now, the ones that 600 01:02:15.719 --> 01:02:22.239 do care are the ones that have something to hide, right, and don't 601 01:02:22.239 --> 01:02:31.480 want to necessarily admit that it could be happening in their head and and not 602 01:02:31.760 --> 01:02:37.599 be real. It could be a fabrication, that it can be a holographic 603 01:02:38.280 --> 01:02:45.639 projection, and that it is actually coming from you. And then you get 604 01:02:45.679 --> 01:02:55.280 into the whole. Can we even travel in space too? Right? I 605 01:02:55.360 --> 01:03:02.199 don't think that a human body is man to be in space for long periods 606 01:03:02.199 --> 01:03:08.719 of time, Like you need a certain procedure, let's say, to as 607 01:03:08.719 --> 01:03:13.840 a human being to even go to Bali. You have to have a medical 608 01:03:13.920 --> 01:03:17.760 procedure to go to Bali, not surrounding twenty twenty or any They've been doing 609 01:03:17.800 --> 01:03:23.320 that forever. Yeah, because things are different there. It's a different kind 610 01:03:23.400 --> 01:03:30.440 of atmosphere, it's a different kind of yeah, not gravity. But I 611 01:03:30.440 --> 01:03:35.800 can't think of the word that I'm trying to say. But taking that into 612 01:03:35.800 --> 01:03:43.880 consideration, what would you need to go live on a different planet. I 613 01:03:43.880 --> 01:03:50.000 don't think that we could withstand because we're born on Earth. Our body is 614 01:03:50.360 --> 01:03:55.280 aligned with Earth's atmosphere, Earth's gravity. I don't think that we would be 615 01:03:55.320 --> 01:04:01.400 able to walk around on any other planet as we do here and survive. 616 01:04:04.199 --> 01:04:11.960 And I don't think that anybody else coming from another planet could walk around here 617 01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:17.280 and survive. I think it's impossible. And I think that that's the whole 618 01:04:18.599 --> 01:04:24.800 augmentation side of this that they want to get humanity into, you know, 619 01:04:24.880 --> 01:04:34.440 this cybernetic brain implant, you know, this kind of AI driven reality, 620 01:04:34.519 --> 01:04:43.599 making us more machine and more cyborg than human. It's so that we could 621 01:04:44.440 --> 01:04:51.079 possibly exist in space, and that we could possibly exist on other planets and 622 01:04:51.920 --> 01:04:57.360 colonize other plants, because you know, and there's a lot of proof of 623 01:04:57.360 --> 01:05:02.440 this. Rudolsteiner talks about talks about it too, that humans aren't meant to 624 01:05:02.480 --> 01:05:09.119 be. They can't exist in space as we are, like you know, 625 01:05:09.519 --> 01:05:15.840 natural biological humans. Now, it's impossible. So you will need some kind 626 01:05:15.880 --> 01:05:25.079 of augmentation, some kind of enhancement, if you wanted to live in space 627 01:05:25.199 --> 01:05:30.760 or live on a different planet. And I think that that is kind of 628 01:05:31.000 --> 01:05:34.360 their plant. I mean, we we've seen that from Elon Musklan Musk wants 629 01:05:34.400 --> 01:05:38.920 to Colonias Mars, and he also wants to put a brain and plant in 630 01:05:38.960 --> 01:05:47.360 you. You know, so something something's lined up there. So I don't 631 01:05:47.360 --> 01:05:50.960 know. I don't think that, just like we can't go out in the 632 01:05:51.000 --> 01:05:55.480 space, just like we can't walk around on other planets as the biological human 633 01:05:55.519 --> 01:05:58.639 that we are because we're actually from Earth. We're from Earth's atmosphere, Earth 634 01:05:58.719 --> 01:06:02.480 gravity, all the things that are happening in the skies around us. I 635 01:06:02.480 --> 01:06:11.000 don't think that other species could come to the planet as an organic being either 636 01:06:11.199 --> 01:06:18.000 and live. It's man, I'm with you about going to other planets the 637 01:06:18.079 --> 01:06:24.079 human body, I'm with you. It does not seem feasible. Let alone 638 01:06:24.639 --> 01:06:30.880 the fact that we are to believe, I'm not a scientist, that astronauts 639 01:06:30.239 --> 01:06:38.679 ride on a rocket or spacecraft going faster than a bullet. You know the 640 01:06:38.719 --> 01:06:45.559 fact that the things in the Earth's orbit around two hundred and fifty miles above 641 01:06:45.679 --> 01:06:49.519 Earth are moving up to seventeen thousand, five hundred miles per hour according to 642 01:06:49.599 --> 01:06:56.880 NASA, which is about ten times faster than a speeding bullet. And we 643 01:06:57.039 --> 01:07:02.159 know what a bullet does to a human body, so it can only make 644 01:07:02.280 --> 01:07:08.199 sense that moving that fast would have some repercussion and less. Like you said, 645 01:07:08.840 --> 01:07:13.119 we are in some simplified mode, were made more plastic in some way, 646 01:07:13.760 --> 01:07:18.800 we can be more compatible with those speeds on some level. I just 647 01:07:18.840 --> 01:07:24.400 don't know what the reality of them. We know that astronauts go through a 648 01:07:24.440 --> 01:07:28.119 lot. I just don't know exactly what. And I think that, yeah, 649 01:07:28.119 --> 01:07:32.000 this transhumanist agenda, maybe there's something to all this. I'm not sure. 650 01:07:35.000 --> 01:07:40.480 Yeah. Also, being in a rocket and being going faster than a 651 01:07:40.519 --> 01:07:46.280 speeding bullet through space, a little pebble would completely destroy your entire craft. 652 01:07:47.800 --> 01:07:51.239 You know you're going that fast you hit a little bit, I mean, 653 01:07:51.320 --> 01:07:58.400 shoot, driving on a motorcycle down the highway and a bug hits your face 654 01:07:58.400 --> 01:08:03.960 and you don't have protective you're that shit stings brou nah, you know. 655 01:08:04.760 --> 01:08:14.440 So imagine traveling fast as a bullet through space in a little space rock or 656 01:08:14.519 --> 01:08:20.560 a little debris. Hitch your rocket. It's done for right. That's why 657 01:08:20.600 --> 01:08:25.880 I don't I don't think that we can travel in space with standard rocketry. 658 01:08:25.960 --> 01:08:29.439 I think it's impossible. Yeah, I don't think we can really get outside 659 01:08:29.439 --> 01:08:35.319 of the Earth's atmosphere in a standard rocket. For one, rockets are nine 660 01:08:35.920 --> 01:08:44.119 fuel and Werner ron Braun stated that it would take a rocket the size of 661 01:08:44.159 --> 01:08:46.640 the Empire State Building to be able to get to the Moon. And it's 662 01:08:46.680 --> 01:08:50.600 not because we needed that size of a rocket to get there. It's because 663 01:08:50.640 --> 01:08:58.039 we needed that amount of gas to get there. Because a standard rocket, 664 01:08:59.079 --> 01:09:03.399 it's payload has to the ninety percent gas and that leaves very little room for 665 01:09:03.720 --> 01:09:14.279 crew and things that you actually need to survive the trip. So, if 666 01:09:14.319 --> 01:09:20.319 anything, I believe that we have developed highly advanced technology. I mean we 667 01:09:20.399 --> 01:09:29.760 have proof of this the SNAr Aero Club in the mid eighteen hundreds creating anti 668 01:09:29.800 --> 01:09:41.920 gravity craft in northern California, Peter Menace and Charles Delshaw, and you can 669 01:09:41.920 --> 01:09:46.359 look that up there schematics, there's drawings of the craft they were creating. 670 01:09:47.880 --> 01:09:54.159 Walter Bossley has written several books on this. Then you fast forward a little 671 01:09:54.199 --> 01:09:59.760 bit to World War Two. The Germans were also working on something very similar 672 01:10:00.760 --> 01:10:05.920 with the Bell technology, and I believe that the Bell technology was the engine 673 01:10:05.920 --> 01:10:13.000 of the craft, right, and they just strapped on the engine onto a 674 01:10:14.039 --> 01:10:16.680 some kind of a saucer shaped craft in order for it to lift up off 675 01:10:16.680 --> 01:10:20.680 of the ground. But they were using a red spinning mercury and the Scenori 676 01:10:20.760 --> 01:10:28.199 Aero Club was using a green spinning mercury fuel additive to lift to be able 677 01:10:28.239 --> 01:10:31.560 to lift the craft up off of the ground. And then we have all 678 01:10:31.760 --> 01:10:39.600 the German aerospace texts and scientists and all of them coming to the United States 679 01:10:40.359 --> 01:10:45.039 through Project Paper Club. Then we have the Roswell event of nineteen forty seven, 680 01:10:45.560 --> 01:10:49.479 two years after the war. We have an admirable bird going to Antarctica 681 01:10:49.720 --> 01:10:54.800 in nineteen forty six. It ended in nineteen forty seven, a very very 682 01:10:54.840 --> 01:10:59.359 short trip. Now the story is there, I'm not too sure, but 683 01:10:59.439 --> 01:11:06.239 he did up in Chile and gave a statement there that some at some point 684 01:11:06.279 --> 01:11:13.199 we're going to have to fight technology that can go from poll to poll in 685 01:11:13.199 --> 01:11:16.000 a matter of minutes. It's not the direct quote, that's just me paraphrasing. 686 01:11:17.640 --> 01:11:26.800 Then nineteen sixty two, we have the Washington flap event. In nineteen 687 01:11:26.800 --> 01:11:30.439 fifty two, sorry, nineteen fifty two is the Washington flap event, which 688 01:11:30.479 --> 01:11:33.880 is the UFOs that were spotted over the White House. Let me have the 689 01:11:33.920 --> 01:11:41.800 Textburg event. Of well, we have the first abduction before that, which 690 01:11:41.840 --> 01:11:45.479 was nineteen sixty one with Buddy and Barney Hill, that we have the Caxtburg 691 01:11:45.520 --> 01:11:49.760 event in nineteen sixty five, let me go to the Moon in nineteen sixty 692 01:11:49.840 --> 01:11:56.399 nine. So whatever, you look at all these events and the sequence that 693 01:11:56.479 --> 01:12:03.800 it happens, and you realize that the military cias through other organizations are doing 694 01:12:03.920 --> 01:12:12.039 mk ultra programs, are doing psychological operations. They have this technology team they've 695 01:12:12.039 --> 01:12:16.520 been working on in since the eighteen hundreds, which the Scenario Club was funded 696 01:12:18.439 --> 01:12:26.760 by Prussia, which Prussia then became Germany. And so you have all these 697 01:12:26.920 --> 01:12:35.399 connections here and evidence that it's our technology that we've developed and that we've created, 698 01:12:36.159 --> 01:12:42.600 and the reverse engineering aspect of all this stuff has been put into the 699 01:12:42.680 --> 01:12:50.039 consciousness of people, you know, crashed alien craft, alien technology retrieval and 700 01:12:50.079 --> 01:12:55.000 all that, and then we've like reverse engineered in and it's all from aliens 701 01:12:55.000 --> 01:12:58.840 that's been put out there, in my personal opinion, to cover up the 702 01:12:58.880 --> 01:13:04.239 fact that it's us and that we've created it and that we've had the technology 703 01:13:04.960 --> 01:13:11.520 for a really long time. I mean, James Forrestall wanted to release this 704 01:13:12.199 --> 01:13:16.560 technology, and he was really good friends with JFK. JFK was kind of 705 01:13:16.600 --> 01:13:23.720 like his protege. And there is documentation that JFK and James Forrestall both went 706 01:13:23.800 --> 01:13:31.159 to Germany after World War Two and their speculation that they looked at the anti 707 01:13:31.159 --> 01:13:36.960 gravity craft that the Germans were working on. When they came back to the 708 01:13:38.039 --> 01:13:43.439 United States, JFK ran first Senate, James Forrestall became the very first Secretary 709 01:13:43.439 --> 01:13:49.680 of Defense and that is where m J twelve when m J twelve was born, 710 01:13:53.399 --> 01:14:00.000 fascinating man and James Forstall wanted to release the technology. He wanted to 711 01:14:00.159 --> 01:14:03.439 be a public thing, right He's like, why why are we holding on 712 01:14:03.520 --> 01:14:09.960 this? Why are we making this so secretive? And there was someone or 713 01:14:10.039 --> 01:14:16.560 something that wanted to do this black budget style, you know, keep it 714 01:14:16.600 --> 01:14:23.720 all under wraps, not let it get out to the public. And they 715 01:14:23.800 --> 01:14:30.720 made Forrestall out to be a crazy whackado and they locked him up but as 716 01:14:30.760 --> 01:14:43.079 the hospital and naval hospital and apparently no proof they killed him. They pushed 717 01:14:43.119 --> 01:14:46.760 him out of the think a succeed story window or whatever, want to really 718 01:14:46.840 --> 01:14:51.119 high up window, and they said that it was suiciding that he killed himself, 719 01:14:51.119 --> 01:14:59.520 and I think that JFK was trying to do this more openly and not 720 01:14:59.640 --> 01:15:06.319 so secretive, right, And because if JFK was the first person in sixty 721 01:15:06.840 --> 01:15:13.159 one, I believe he made a statement to Congress that we should be we 722 01:15:13.159 --> 01:15:16.000 should focus our efforts to getting to the moon by the end of the decade, 723 01:15:16.520 --> 01:15:20.079 and then again in sixty two at Rice Stadium. It might not be 724 01:15:21.640 --> 01:15:25.760 sure on those dates, but it's around that area. He made that statement 725 01:15:25.760 --> 01:15:30.079 at Rice stadiument that to the public that we should, you know, focus 726 01:15:30.079 --> 01:15:33.600 our efforts sticking into the moon by the end of the decade. And I 727 01:15:33.640 --> 01:15:43.479 personally believe that that was JFK's push to let them reveal the technology that we 728 01:15:43.560 --> 01:15:45.399 had, and he was trying to do it out in the open because he's 729 01:15:45.399 --> 01:15:51.600 seen what happened to his friend and his buddy James Forrestall. He was making 730 01:15:51.640 --> 01:16:00.399 a big push to reveal the technology internally and they killed him again speculation, 731 01:16:00.479 --> 01:16:02.960 don't know for sure if they killed him or not, but he ended up 732 01:16:03.039 --> 01:16:06.479 dying, right, put it that way. And then so JFK went back 733 01:16:06.479 --> 01:16:11.199 and he was like, huh, how can I do this and not get 734 01:16:11.319 --> 01:16:15.800 killed? Right? And he was like, well, I'll just do it 735 01:16:15.800 --> 01:16:19.159 out in the open. I'll just try and force their hand to reveal the 736 01:16:19.279 --> 01:16:27.039 technology early, because I believe he knew that we couldn't get to the Moon 737 01:16:27.319 --> 01:16:30.319 in standard rocketry, so he was like, Okay, well, let me 738 01:16:30.359 --> 01:16:34.000 try and push this out early. We'll make a statement to say, oh, 739 01:16:34.079 --> 01:16:36.439 we should focus our office to getting to the Moon by the end of 740 01:16:36.439 --> 01:16:45.479 the decade, and that will force them to reveal this anti gravity craft in 741 01:16:45.600 --> 01:16:50.439 the real way that we might possibly get to the Moon. But they ended 742 01:16:50.520 --> 01:16:56.000 up killing him anyway, right, And that's not the only reason for the 743 01:16:56.600 --> 01:17:00.119 assassination, right, It's there's many, many more, And so I don't 744 01:17:00.159 --> 01:17:06.279 want people to think or believe that that it was the only reason that he 745 01:17:06.399 --> 01:17:12.960 was killed or assassinated, because it's not. It's just one of the many 746 01:17:13.119 --> 01:17:19.119 possibilities that he could have been taken out there. So I think that's well, 747 01:17:19.159 --> 01:17:21.840 that's what was going on. And we know that the Apollo missions were 748 01:17:24.359 --> 01:17:32.039 actually designed to set up military bases on other planets in our solar systems, 749 01:17:32.119 --> 01:17:34.960 on other moons. It wasn't just meant to go to the Moon. It 750 01:17:35.039 --> 01:17:40.640 was meant to go to Mars and all these other places to set up, 751 01:17:41.000 --> 01:17:45.000 you know, basically the militarization of space. And that was a statement that 752 01:17:45.159 --> 01:17:51.039 was kind of you know out there in the early sixties, whenever we decided 753 01:17:51.079 --> 01:17:54.319 that we were going to try and make it to the moon. But then 754 01:17:54.359 --> 01:17:57.840 they just brushed it under the rug. They're like, on, on, 755 01:17:58.439 --> 01:18:00.439 I forget that. We didn't say that, we didn't make any of those 756 01:18:00.439 --> 01:18:02.840 statements. And then it just went black, and it just went super dark. 757 01:18:02.880 --> 01:18:08.960 And there's another thing here that's proof of militarization of space, which is 758 01:18:09.760 --> 01:18:14.399 Operation looking Glass. Are you familiar with Operations looking Glass? Amazing? Yeah, 759 01:18:14.479 --> 01:18:19.239 but let's tell our listeners about it really quick. So Operation looking Glass 760 01:18:19.600 --> 01:18:27.479 is it's not a technology to see into the future or into the past. 761 01:18:28.039 --> 01:18:38.079 It's an actual Air Force command post in space with the ability to launch nukes 762 01:18:38.119 --> 01:18:45.439 from Earth in the event that a ground based communications center is rendered unusable or 763 01:18:45.560 --> 01:18:51.680 destroy it. Right. So, in the Secret Space Program people and the 764 01:18:53.399 --> 01:18:59.960 SSP people, the super soldiers have taken that concept, that looking Glass concept 765 01:19:00.079 --> 01:19:04.319 up and turned it into something that it's not. It's another cover up. 766 01:19:04.880 --> 01:19:13.000 They don't want you to know that they have already militarized space and that Space 767 01:19:13.039 --> 01:19:25.199 Force was just a rebranding of a previously existing program that we had been up 768 01:19:25.199 --> 01:19:31.640 there since nineteen sixty two whenever or nineteen sixty one when Operation looking Glass became 769 01:19:31.680 --> 01:19:36.119 an actual program. Which is another interesting thing is that the Air Force was 770 01:19:36.239 --> 01:19:44.319 running NASA's test flights in nineteen sixty one, the Gemini program, and there's 771 01:19:44.319 --> 01:19:46.640 another one I can't think of off the top of my head, but they're 772 01:19:46.720 --> 01:19:50.920 running two different NASA test flights. The Air Force was it wasn't NASA that 773 01:19:51.000 --> 01:19:58.239 was actually running them, and they never got outside of the upper atmosphere of 774 01:19:58.279 --> 01:20:05.600 the planet. And I think because that is the signal that gave JFK because 775 01:20:05.640 --> 01:20:09.479 they never broke out of a prow atmosphere of the planet, because I don't 776 01:20:09.520 --> 01:20:14.199 believe that they can with standard rockets. And JFK was like, Okay, 777 01:20:14.239 --> 01:20:19.840 this is my this is my queue right here to try and get them to 778 01:20:19.880 --> 01:20:27.399 force their hand to reveal anti gravity craft and what we've been working on since 779 01:20:28.880 --> 01:20:35.880 the late forties. Man, it's so amazing, and you know, I 780 01:20:35.920 --> 01:20:40.319 know we're going over here a bit, but I need to say that you 781 01:20:40.399 --> 01:20:45.880 are super impressing me with all your research into all this and I think it's 782 01:20:45.920 --> 01:20:51.119 super important at this time, given all of the UAP, the SATE, 783 01:20:51.199 --> 01:20:59.239 allon the satellite, Chinese balloon, the stuff being shot down out of the 784 01:20:59.279 --> 01:21:05.520 sky by our military fighter pilots, and the fact that Werner von Braun, 785 01:21:06.279 --> 01:21:13.880 if I'm not mistaken, on his deathbed, purportedly or allegedly, said that 786 01:21:14.640 --> 01:21:26.079 there would be a attempt to psychologically operate a false alien invasion. And what 787 01:21:26.159 --> 01:21:31.199 are your thoughts on that. I think it's a bunch of nonsense to me, 788 01:21:31.479 --> 01:21:38.560 personally, I don't think there will ever get a any kind of alien 789 01:21:38.560 --> 01:21:43.159 invasion, false or not, because what would be the reason to do that. 790 01:21:43.760 --> 01:21:51.319 There's zero reason in my book for them to even attempt a false flag 791 01:21:51.399 --> 01:21:58.680 alien invision, or if it's a real alien invasion, why would real aliens 792 01:21:59.680 --> 01:22:04.479 come here and invade? It makes absolutely no sense. If it's about control, 793 01:22:05.560 --> 01:22:10.800 it still doesn't make any sense, right, because they've proven over and 794 01:22:11.319 --> 01:22:16.159 over and over again that they can control the public, the population, and 795 01:22:16.239 --> 01:22:28.039 control the world without aliens. They've proved that several times. Twenty is a 796 01:22:28.079 --> 01:22:32.279 really great example. Yeah, they've proven that they can shut down the economy, 797 01:22:32.359 --> 01:22:36.960 they can shut down the world at one foul swoop just like that without 798 01:22:38.000 --> 01:22:45.079 aliens. They they've proven that they can psychologically manipulate people, that they can 799 01:22:45.720 --> 01:22:51.439 um put something on the TV that isn't necessarily true and get people to believe 800 01:22:51.479 --> 01:23:00.640 in it without aliens. So I really would like to talk to somebody about 801 01:23:00.680 --> 01:23:08.079 this that believes in them, the alien threat narrative and the false flag alien 802 01:23:08.079 --> 01:23:14.319 invasion or even a real alien invasion, because again, if it's a real 803 01:23:14.359 --> 01:23:17.720 alien vision, then what would be the point of that as well? Right, 804 01:23:17.880 --> 01:23:23.279 it doesn't seem like we're really we're not doing anything wrong, And I 805 01:23:23.319 --> 01:23:27.600 don't believe I think that this reality is just set up the way that it 806 01:23:27.760 --> 01:23:33.000 is, because that's the way that it is. You know, like if 807 01:23:33.000 --> 01:23:39.079 they're coming to save us, like what are they really coming to save us 808 01:23:39.760 --> 01:23:45.560 from? Right, then it doesn't make any sense. The reality is that 809 01:23:46.800 --> 01:23:50.600 we're just here to experience this reality. You know, Yes, is their 810 01:23:50.640 --> 01:23:54.920 corruption, Well, there's going to be corruption, there's going to be all 811 01:23:54.960 --> 01:23:59.079 these different secrets in and the government being like that because of the duality that 812 01:23:59.159 --> 01:24:05.000 we have here on this planning that's always going to exist. You can't rid 813 01:24:05.119 --> 01:24:13.760 this reality of polarity and duality. If you do, then we no longer 814 01:24:14.159 --> 01:24:23.920 exist as this physical being. We would be someplace else. And that's what 815 01:24:24.479 --> 01:24:27.720 why I think that we're so special here, Ryan, and people really just 816 01:24:27.760 --> 01:24:34.079 need to dive head first into this reality and quit thinking that it's shitty or 817 01:24:34.319 --> 01:24:40.119 that it's stupid, and that they hate it. They shouldn't hate it. 818 01:24:40.800 --> 01:24:45.439 They should love it and embrace it and realize that it's just a part of 819 01:24:45.479 --> 01:24:53.279 the process of being here. Some people have really shitty circumstances, and I 820 01:24:53.319 --> 01:25:00.560 recognize that, and I have empathy for them. But unfortunately that's the kind 821 01:25:00.600 --> 01:25:10.680 of hand that some people were dealt, you know, And it's really no 822 01:25:10.720 --> 01:25:15.960 one's fault, but but our own fault. We've let it get to this 823 01:25:15.039 --> 01:25:18.159 point. If we hate it so much, we should have done something about 824 01:25:18.159 --> 01:25:27.560 it fifty years ago or twenty three years ago, you know, we should 825 01:25:27.680 --> 01:25:31.159 we should have seen this coming, you know, we should have stood up 826 01:25:31.199 --> 01:25:34.880 and done something about it. Then now we're just letting it ride out, 827 01:25:35.680 --> 01:25:42.079 and we're just going along with every agenda and every thought and idea that's given 828 01:25:42.079 --> 01:25:46.039 to us. You know, it really seems like they're trying to extinguish critical 829 01:25:46.079 --> 01:25:51.720 thought and common sense from the consciousness of everybody on the planet all at the 830 01:25:51.760 --> 01:25:59.720 same time. And again that's done through trauma, drugging, psychological manipulation, 831 01:26:00.199 --> 01:26:10.159 harmful frequencies, the TV, the screen that's in your pocket. And I 832 01:26:10.239 --> 01:26:17.279 just don't think that they need a false flag alien invasion. They don't need 833 01:26:17.600 --> 01:26:26.239 a real alien invasion to accomplish their goals. They can do it without all 834 01:26:26.319 --> 01:26:32.439 that, and honestly, the probably be way easier to do, you know. 835 01:26:32.880 --> 01:26:39.720 And I want someone to come up with a good explanation of the reason 836 01:26:40.039 --> 01:26:46.000 why they would do it, because logically speaking, critical thinking speaking, common 837 01:26:46.079 --> 01:26:51.960 sense speaking, they don't need it. And based off that, I don't 838 01:26:53.000 --> 01:27:00.159 think that they'll do it. We are pretty easy to control. That it's 839 01:27:00.680 --> 01:27:05.439 fair enough, I think. I think your explanation is one percent on target. 840 01:27:05.840 --> 01:27:12.279 I think earlier you mentioning the fact that a lot of this stuff is 841 01:27:12.319 --> 01:27:17.319 being used much like an aggre is beyond super impressive. And we wonder why 842 01:27:18.159 --> 01:27:25.279 many of the top one percent elites and government rulers are rumored to believe in 843 01:27:25.359 --> 01:27:31.000 ancient mystery religions and practice rituals that in effect backup to the theory of Agrigor's 844 01:27:31.800 --> 01:27:38.720 But you know, it does seem like they believe in natural law and that 845 01:27:38.840 --> 01:27:45.560 these sorceress elites and their secret societies and world power brokers who kind of plot 846 01:27:45.800 --> 01:27:50.399 the different moves that are made upon us know something we don't know. And 847 01:27:50.560 --> 01:27:54.119 I agree with you, man, I'm glad there's people like you out there 848 01:27:54.720 --> 01:28:00.800 that are kind of seeing through all this and you tantalize me endlessly. Man 849 01:28:00.880 --> 01:28:05.279 with Charles Delsha, Walter Bosley and that red spinning mercury, that's something I 850 01:28:05.319 --> 01:28:10.560 need to look more into. That sounds super cool. As we wrap up, 851 01:28:10.640 --> 01:28:15.119 let's tell listeners where they can keep up with all things writerly and raised 852 01:28:15.119 --> 01:28:18.319 by giants. Yes, sir, thanks so much for having me on. 853 01:28:19.439 --> 01:28:24.800 Ryan, I really appreciate you a very fascinating conversation. But before I do 854 01:28:24.880 --> 01:28:30.199 that, you ever mentioning to me the other day that you've been investigating into 855 01:28:30.319 --> 01:28:34.479 a little bit of the societies and stuff. Can you give people a little 856 01:28:34.800 --> 01:28:40.760 idea of what you've been looking into recently. Yeah, it's been really crazy 857 01:28:40.920 --> 01:28:47.640 and very strange. My alma mater of the University of Utah is well for 858 01:28:48.399 --> 01:28:53.079 I'll just cut to the chase has an order of three two two, The 859 01:28:53.159 --> 01:28:59.520 skull and bones there it is one that started in nineteen ten, nineteen o 860 01:28:59.760 --> 01:29:02.800 nine, depending on who you talk to and what the history books say, 861 01:29:03.239 --> 01:29:10.960 but a very secretive second branch or order of three to two two skull and 862 01:29:10.960 --> 01:29:15.520 bones. And obviously everybody knows or of many people know in our in our 863 01:29:16.199 --> 01:29:23.159 realm that that is originally from Yale University. So I've been looking into that, 864 01:29:23.960 --> 01:29:27.560 and yeah, just kind of looking at, you know, some of 865 01:29:27.600 --> 01:29:36.039 the interesting stuff taking place possibly in the shadows and what you know, how 866 01:29:36.159 --> 01:29:46.399 they members of many of these groups don't coincidentally arrive where they tend to arrive 867 01:29:47.239 --> 01:29:53.479 in life. They are sort of placed there. Yeah, it's really fascinating. 868 01:29:53.560 --> 01:29:56.159 I want to have to do some more research into it, into the 869 01:29:56.920 --> 01:30:01.800 White Brotherhood in the Dark Brotherhood, because I think like this has been a 870 01:30:02.039 --> 01:30:12.439 battle between a lot of different secret societies on what direction to push humanity toward. 871 01:30:14.159 --> 01:30:19.000 You know, like I think it boils down to like a do we 872 01:30:19.079 --> 01:30:24.439 give them the knowledge or we don't give them the knowledge? Right? Do 873 01:30:24.640 --> 01:30:31.479 we give everybody on the planet all the secrets and ideas and beliefs that we 874 01:30:31.560 --> 01:30:35.720 have, what would they be able to handle it? Or do we don't? 875 01:30:35.800 --> 01:30:40.680 And do we keep it all for ourselves. And I think there's been 876 01:30:40.720 --> 01:30:45.960 some people, like I was explaining with James Forrestall in regards to the technology. 877 01:30:46.079 --> 01:30:49.119 He wanted to release the technology, but everyone was against him, right, 878 01:30:49.520 --> 01:30:57.279 And I think that there's been a few people throught throughout our history that 879 01:30:58.960 --> 01:31:04.800 have wanted to really knowledge just been a part of some of these secret societies 880 01:31:04.880 --> 01:31:15.680 and the White Brotherhood and those kinds of groups that's wanted to release the knowledge 881 01:31:15.680 --> 01:31:21.279 and let it be public information, but they've been stopped somewhere along the way. 882 01:31:21.560 --> 01:31:26.800 But yeah, I think that's a very interesting. Definitely keep keep diving 883 01:31:26.840 --> 01:31:31.520 into that. It's pretty epic. Yeah, you start looking down and it's 884 01:31:31.680 --> 01:31:36.840 it's it's an interesting rabbit hole. Man. Yes, Ryan, thanks so 885 01:31:36.920 --> 01:31:40.720 much for having me on. I appreciate you. People can find me on 886 01:31:40.720 --> 01:31:44.479 YouTube at Raised by a Giants, on Rock Fan and Raised by a Giants, 887 01:31:44.600 --> 01:31:49.079 on all the different podcast platforms as well, and on Instagram at Raised 888 01:31:49.079 --> 01:31:56.039 by Giants pod and I just recently made a TikTok so nice. I know 889 01:31:56.279 --> 01:31:59.760 people, people are gonna hate me whatever, but I think that it'll be 890 01:31:59.800 --> 01:32:03.119 a promotional tool for my show, and that's really all that It for is 891 01:32:03.600 --> 01:32:06.319 just you know, promoting my show, and I think that we have to 892 01:32:06.880 --> 01:32:15.800 utilize as many of these social media platforms as possible to get the word out 893 01:32:15.840 --> 01:32:23.960 and get you know, solid factual information to people. And also on Twitter 894 01:32:24.199 --> 01:32:28.319 at Raised by Giants eight. Thanks so much, brother, appreciate your time 895 01:32:28.439 --> 01:32:34.600 here this evening. Thank you man writer Lee bringing the heat and telling us 896 01:32:34.760 --> 01:32:42.000 how it is. Definitely go over and check out writer Lee at Raised by 897 01:32:42.159 --> 01:32:48.920 Giants. Support him on the new TikTok and yeah it's it's something you should 898 01:32:49.000 --> 01:32:56.319 check out. He's always bringing impressive, tantalizing information to the forefront. Much 899 01:32:56.359 --> 01:33:00.279 respect for that, and I always appreciate talking to him and having him on. 900 01:33:00.880 --> 01:33:09.960 If you have not subscribed to hero Paranormal on Patreon, please go to 901 01:33:10.079 --> 01:33:15.840 Patreon, look up hero Paranormal and subscribe, otherwise you're missing a ton of 902 01:33:15.880 --> 01:33:23.359 content behind the paywall. You can also get to that content via podbean at 903 01:33:23.479 --> 01:33:28.800 hero paranormal dot com. And until next time, keep your eyes to the 904 01:33:28.840 --> 01:33:32.760 skies feed on the ground, but don't forget to take a look around. 905 01:33:50.199 --> 01:33:58.439 Blast off in my time machine through feeling like you need blast office, last 906 01:33:58.520 --> 01:34:15.199 office, last off, Off Off, blast off. If you guys are 907 01:34:15.319 --> 01:34:21.800 still listening in. I want to apologize for the audio on this particular episode. 908 01:34:24.079 --> 01:34:30.399 We had a variety of technical difficulties which were impossible to explain. Took 909 01:34:30.439 --> 01:34:34.760 me over six hours to figure it out. It was literally as if somebody 910 01:34:34.840 --> 01:34:41.319 came in and muted from time to time one or both of us. It 911 01:34:41.359 --> 01:34:46.880 took tons of work from an audio perspective to even get it in a mode 912 01:34:47.039 --> 01:34:54.800 that was utterly listenable at any length, and it was. It was a 913 01:34:54.880 --> 01:35:00.800 nightmare, volumes up and down, mutings. And I don't know if it 914 01:35:00.840 --> 01:35:09.239 was necessarily just the revelations that writer Lee brought to the table, or if 915 01:35:09.239 --> 01:35:13.760 there was something more. It was very strange, very odd, never happened 916 01:35:13.800 --> 01:35:17.680 before to that extent, But I want to apologize for the audio. At 917 01:35:17.760 --> 01:35:21.840 least we got the message across, hopefully in some bearable form of listening. 918 01:35:23.760 --> 01:35:26.239 And until next time, take care,