WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.640 --> 00:00:07.160 And I just turned around and I call ass out of there. I was 2 00:00:07.679 --> 00:00:14.599 done. I wasn't deal with them. The hypocrisy of the cult is one 3 00:00:14.599 --> 00:00:22.199 of the things that turned me away the quickest. When I turned my head 4 00:00:22.280 --> 00:00:26.559 lights on, it turned and looked at us. And one of the things 5 00:00:26.600 --> 00:00:32.240 I remember the most, where the eyes were going red. I see an 6 00:00:32.359 --> 00:00:37.719 orb of light. It is just circling these steps like it is waiting for 7 00:00:37.880 --> 00:00:46.320 me. And he begins to tell them that he saw UFO. They're basically 8 00:00:46.320 --> 00:00:52.560 like, what are you talking about. That's seven foot up on a tree, 9 00:00:52.920 --> 00:00:56.159 peeking around it, and that's where I saw the top of the muzzle, 10 00:00:56.520 --> 00:01:00.280 nose and the eyes. As soon as I made eye contact with this 11 00:01:00.359 --> 00:01:07.480 thing, it don't like death. Welcome back to Tenfoil Tells. I'm your 12 00:01:07.480 --> 00:01:11.959 host Brandon. Right tonight's episode, we're gonna be joined by Jennifer. Jennifer 13 00:01:12.159 --> 00:01:18.480 is the founder of Eclipse Paranormal. She's also the Region two director of the 14 00:01:18.480 --> 00:01:22.359 North American dog Man Project. She reached out to me a couple months ago. 15 00:01:22.959 --> 00:01:26.200 We got something to scheduled. Been looking forward to talking with her. 16 00:01:26.359 --> 00:01:30.280 But before we bring her on, you've ever had an experience you'd like to 17 00:01:30.319 --> 00:01:33.319 be on an episode of Tenfoil Tells, you can send an email to Tenfoil 18 00:01:33.359 --> 00:01:38.519 Tales podcast at gmail dot com, or you can go to tenfoiltl dot com 19 00:01:38.000 --> 00:01:42.719 go to the contact section. You can reach me that way too. 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I think now it's time to bring Jin on and look forward to 39 00:03:00.400 --> 00:03:02.639 talking weather. Everyone should know at this point the dog man is my bread 40 00:03:02.639 --> 00:03:07.560 and butter, so definitely want to dive into this. So sit back, 41 00:03:07.599 --> 00:03:13.719 relax and enjoy the show. Like take the time and welcome my guest tonight, 42 00:03:13.800 --> 00:03:16.319 Jen, Thanks for coming on here and talk to me. Thanks for 43 00:03:16.360 --> 00:03:23.840 having me on. A little bit about yourself. I'm Jen Jacobs. I 44 00:03:23.960 --> 00:03:32.719 have been in the ghost honey field professionally for over oh my gosh, twelve 45 00:03:32.759 --> 00:03:39.000 thirteen years now, so quite some time. I joined the NADP in twenty 46 00:03:39.039 --> 00:03:47.280 sixteen and I have my own paranormal team here in Indiana, Eclipse Pharanormal. 47 00:03:47.520 --> 00:03:55.800 We have an event company and I also run the Region to Midwest chapter of 48 00:03:55.919 --> 00:04:00.000 the NADP, and we hold all kinds of conferences. But we can get 49 00:04:00.000 --> 00:04:03.840 into all that if you want. Are the audience listening. What is it? 50 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:13.879 NADP, The North American dog Man Project right up my alley. But 51 00:04:14.039 --> 00:04:16.480 yeah, when you reached out to me and I seen all that stuff, 52 00:04:16.480 --> 00:04:19.800 I was like, that's funny because I didn't even know we had one. 53 00:04:19.839 --> 00:04:24.000 I'm from Indiana and I think that's where you're located from too. So it's 54 00:04:24.120 --> 00:04:29.600 kind of interesting because it piqued my interest just because the whole dog man thing 55 00:04:29.639 --> 00:04:31.519 is like, I don't even know we even had one of those. Yeah, 56 00:04:31.639 --> 00:04:39.959 I've been I've had a couple public events, but there hasn't been a 57 00:04:39.959 --> 00:04:46.399 whole lot of people come. I had a little meet and greet paranormal meet 58 00:04:46.439 --> 00:04:53.759 and greet up in Goshen at Oxbo Park. Oh, probably it was before 59 00:04:53.800 --> 00:05:00.959 COVID twenty eighteen, something like that. Yeah, definitely check one out. 60 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:12.439 There's something going on. I'm actually working on the Michiana Cryptid Con be the 61 00:05:12.480 --> 00:05:16.399 first dog Man cryptid conference in northern Indiana. Then I'm aware of. I 62 00:05:16.399 --> 00:05:19.839 don't know, somebody may have done one before and I just didn't know it. 63 00:05:20.439 --> 00:05:24.360 Well, if that comes about. I would definitely be interested in that 64 00:05:24.439 --> 00:05:28.879 and being there just because it's literally my neck of the ones. I'm in 65 00:05:28.920 --> 00:05:32.399 north central Indiana. Okay, we're probably neighbors and don't even know it. 66 00:05:34.000 --> 00:05:40.160 I'm up here in Miami County. We're not far. I live in Elkhart 67 00:05:40.279 --> 00:05:46.959 County. My friend that I do another podcast with him, he's actually from 68 00:05:46.959 --> 00:05:56.279 Elkhart area, so it's kind of funny. We're doing a conspiracy theme podcast 69 00:05:56.319 --> 00:06:00.680 for the Patreon and it's gonna be him and I do that one too, 70 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:03.720 so it's kind of the other podcast he do is more music related, but 71 00:06:03.839 --> 00:06:06.759 this one. He was the first guest I ever had on this show, 72 00:06:08.160 --> 00:06:12.360 and then he was actually just on recently because up around elk CARDI actually saw 73 00:06:12.399 --> 00:06:15.160 some weird, strange lights in the sky when he was Uber and him and 74 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:18.439 the passioner he picked up saw some like weird stuff going on to the sky. 75 00:06:19.519 --> 00:06:24.439 I always missed the good stuff. I remember years ago there was a 76 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:30.439 UFO around Liganeer, and of course I lived in Fort Wayne at the time, 77 00:06:32.199 --> 00:06:35.199 but no, I didn't even know about that up here in Elkhart. 78 00:06:36.639 --> 00:06:42.519 Yeah, I'm actually stranger if you mentioned Fort Wayne on Tuesday, I'm going 79 00:06:42.560 --> 00:06:46.959 to be speaking in Fort Wayne at the UFO Alien Intelligence meeting at the library, 80 00:06:47.120 --> 00:06:51.360 and then they're having one here in Peru on the twenty third, Saturday, 81 00:06:51.399 --> 00:06:55.680 the twenty third, it's the library here. Yeah, they asked me 82 00:06:55.720 --> 00:07:00.360 to be the guest speakers. I was like, sure, why not blame 83 00:07:00.399 --> 00:07:02.199 me, I guess by the time this ended up airing, though, it'll 84 00:07:02.199 --> 00:07:09.000 be way past when had actually happened. So but now that I didn't even 85 00:07:09.040 --> 00:07:11.560 know they had these groups going on, but you know, they just made 86 00:07:11.600 --> 00:07:15.800 up to the UFO and UAP groups. I was like, hmm, piques 87 00:07:15.879 --> 00:07:23.079 my interest too, it does mine too, well. I just new things 88 00:07:23.079 --> 00:07:29.120 to look into. I guess I just have one cryptid I don't mess with, 89 00:07:29.160 --> 00:07:32.279 and that's puck Wedgies. Nope, I'm good. Those things scare me. 90 00:07:33.879 --> 00:07:40.839 Well. We had a had an interview with a guy from Massachusetts who's 91 00:07:40.839 --> 00:07:45.879 all about the puck Wedgies just here recently. But down in Anderson, Indiana, 92 00:07:45.959 --> 00:07:48.480 and there is the Mound State Park and there's been rumors for years about 93 00:07:48.480 --> 00:07:56.759 punk wedgies there. I heard that too, And on the ghostly side, 94 00:07:57.079 --> 00:08:03.120 you can hear cannon fire down there too. At night. I've never been 95 00:08:03.199 --> 00:08:05.079 there at night time. I've been there a couple of times during the day, 96 00:08:05.120 --> 00:08:09.680 but I've never stayed at night. I never camped there. I haven't 97 00:08:09.720 --> 00:08:13.160 either. I know some people who's been down there investigated at night and they 98 00:08:13.399 --> 00:08:20.399 said that you've been here Cannon Fire. My wife's family used to camp there. 99 00:08:20.399 --> 00:08:22.600 They had a camp or they'd park out there, and they'd stay out 100 00:08:22.639 --> 00:08:31.279 there almost every weekend. No, we've been. We visited a few times, 101 00:08:31.279 --> 00:08:39.200 but we never stayed. I've not been there. But yeah, do 102 00:08:39.240 --> 00:08:43.039 you want to start from the beginning or wherever you want to dive into It's 103 00:08:43.080 --> 00:08:54.039 all yours. Well, I'm old, so back in the seventies, you 104 00:08:54.080 --> 00:08:56.559 know yet, and I have a whole lot of internet back then, so 105 00:08:58.039 --> 00:09:03.799 anything I could get my hands on at the library, I would anything from 106 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:09.840 Bermuda Triangle to Bigfoot to ghosts anything, you know. It was rare to 107 00:09:09.879 --> 00:09:13.200 find back then in the seventies, eighties, and then the started becoming more 108 00:09:13.240 --> 00:09:20.960 prominent in the late nineties, especially after it was on TV. And my 109 00:09:20.120 --> 00:09:28.240 first experience was looking at my mom's bedroom window and I saw something that I'm 110 00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:35.919 now told is an elemental staring back at me and smiled, and my mom 111 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:39.759 told me that I was being mean and that was the devil watching me. 112 00:09:41.639 --> 00:09:46.600 So didn't deter me from the paranormal. It just made me more intrigued, 113 00:09:46.799 --> 00:09:54.600 and I eventually ended up joining a team. It's always interested in me. 114 00:09:54.879 --> 00:09:58.840 I've always known things like when my grandpa passed, I had told my mom, 115 00:09:58.960 --> 00:10:01.960 I said, no, I need to go see him tonight, and 116 00:10:01.000 --> 00:10:05.159 she's like, no, your younger cousin. It was my younger cousin. 117 00:10:05.799 --> 00:10:09.240 No, he's with us. He can't go upstairs to see him. And 118 00:10:09.320 --> 00:10:11.320 that was back in the eighties, so kids couldn't go up there then. 119 00:10:13.360 --> 00:10:16.440 And I said, no, I have to go see him, and he 120 00:10:16.559 --> 00:10:24.639 died the next morning. And the just things like that have happened over the 121 00:10:24.720 --> 00:10:28.399 years. I know things, and I I'm told I'm psychic, but I 122 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:35.360 don't really like that word because I feel like a psychic reads people and gives 123 00:10:35.399 --> 00:10:39.240 them their future, and I can't do that. I refer to myself Morris, 124 00:10:39.320 --> 00:10:43.720 an EmPATH or a seer. I have four of the five players. 125 00:10:46.799 --> 00:10:54.080 I'm trying to think of everything. My grandma on my dad's side, she 126 00:10:54.279 --> 00:10:58.399 saw and spoke to spirits. She knew things too. My mom's sister. 127 00:11:00.960 --> 00:11:07.120 She sees shadows and she hears things, so I kind of get it from 128 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:15.840 both sides. And then I wrote my junior senior final in English on Bigfoot. 129 00:11:16.080 --> 00:11:22.080 And in twenty fifteen I met Jody Cook that founded the North American dog 130 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:31.279 Man Project and from then on I've worked with them, ran my team, 131 00:11:31.320 --> 00:11:41.080 starting an event company and hosts three conferences four conferences annually and next year I 132 00:11:41.200 --> 00:11:48.519 plan to pick up two more. Plus I have three kids, a single 133 00:11:48.559 --> 00:11:52.639 mom and work forty hours. Yeah I'm not a single parent, but we've 134 00:11:52.679 --> 00:11:58.320 got four kids and I work forty plus hours and she works. So I 135 00:11:58.360 --> 00:12:01.080 try and do this here in my free time, which isn't very often. 136 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:05.679 No people are ask me, well, how in the world do you do 137 00:12:05.679 --> 00:12:09.519 it. I'm like, I have no idea. I just do. Yeah. 138 00:12:11.039 --> 00:12:13.159 I always schedule my stuff later in the evening because I point the older 139 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:18.039 kids go to bed, my uncle in bed, except for the two year 140 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:20.320 old because he's a terrorizer and never wants to go to bed when you need 141 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:26.919 him to. The terrible twos, Oh yeah, he's mister attitude problem. 142 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:33.759 Lately, my eight year old's still like that. A boy it's definitely a 143 00:12:33.759 --> 00:12:41.279 boy thing. The eleven year old's the same way. That's funny. No, 144 00:12:43.399 --> 00:12:48.000 so you mentioned the dog Man project and everything. Has there been any 145 00:12:48.279 --> 00:13:00.279 known like sightings or encounters here around Indiana if you're awareof Yes, my one 146 00:13:00.320 --> 00:13:05.000 of my coworkers, well, it's actually on a couple different podcasts over at 147 00:13:05.000 --> 00:13:11.399 Potato stak Oh, what's it called Potato Creek State Park? I always switched 148 00:13:11.399 --> 00:13:16.840 to words, there's been sightings. One of my coworkers was driving to his 149 00:13:16.039 --> 00:13:24.919 in laws last summer. They had had a one of those really bad thunderstorms 150 00:13:24.960 --> 00:13:30.519 we had come through. It's their house was brand new and a tree fell 151 00:13:30.600 --> 00:13:33.840 on it. It took several months to get it fixed past what it should 152 00:13:35.799 --> 00:13:41.480 and they were staying up in North Liberty at their in law's house, and 153 00:13:41.720 --> 00:13:45.679 he was driving up there and he came to work the next thing. He's 154 00:13:45.720 --> 00:13:48.879 like, I have to talk to you. I was like, okay, 155 00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:54.600 And he told me he was driving home after work and there was like fog 156 00:13:54.679 --> 00:14:01.759 in the area and he passed a spot and something stepped out that looked like 157 00:14:01.799 --> 00:14:05.200 it had mange, he said, And he said, you didn't stop and 158 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:11.120 go back? He said, nope. I just kept driving, and then 159 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:15.240 he actually was telling me about an encounter him and his wife had in your 160 00:14:15.279 --> 00:14:22.240 neck of the woods down by Walbash Nunnington on is it twenty four or is 161 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:26.759 it twenty four fourteen? Twenty four goes through there and fourteen is just north 162 00:14:26.799 --> 00:14:31.879 of it, Okay, so it was fourteen. Him and his wife had 163 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:37.919 something alongside the road and there was a hamprint on their car, and his 164 00:14:37.039 --> 00:14:39.879 wife won't talk about it. She's like, nope, I I it, 165 00:14:39.919 --> 00:14:46.080 don't see anything. And they just kept driving. But he had told me 166 00:14:46.120 --> 00:14:50.360 about the podcast about Potato Creek, so I listened to those and I got 167 00:14:50.360 --> 00:14:56.200 to look checking around, and I guess there's been a lot of sightings over 168 00:14:56.279 --> 00:15:05.720 there. And the scary thing is they have a boy Scout camp and when 169 00:15:05.799 --> 00:15:09.679 I asked if I could hold the conference in the park, I was told 170 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:16.000 no, we don't hold those kind of events here. There's a haboo when 171 00:15:16.039 --> 00:15:18.440 it comes to certain things, I think, and I just said it was 172 00:15:18.480 --> 00:15:24.879 a conference. I can't tell them what kind m hmm, But I thought 173 00:15:24.879 --> 00:15:30.600 it was kind of odd. Yeah, especially if they didn't even know what 174 00:15:30.639 --> 00:15:37.240 a type of conference it would be. Yeah, And then there's actually a 175 00:15:37.279 --> 00:15:43.000 family that migrates in May and October through the area I'm at in here in 176 00:15:43.000 --> 00:15:52.519 Indiana, and I've had I've seen a dog man. I've seen a big 177 00:15:52.639 --> 00:15:58.519 foot outside of Bosh. Was driving to work. What let me think, 178 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:04.840 Oh, my youngest is two, so it's been several years ago. I 179 00:16:04.879 --> 00:16:10.639 was driving and something crossed the road in front of me, and I thought, 180 00:16:10.919 --> 00:16:15.840 why is that man wearing an all orange jumpsuit with a white hat on 181 00:16:15.919 --> 00:16:22.360 his head? And I stopped the car. Most people wouldn't, but me, 182 00:16:22.440 --> 00:16:26.159 being me, I stopped the car and just looked, and I realized 183 00:16:27.679 --> 00:16:33.639 he was as tall as the do not pass signs that are yellow, you 184 00:16:33.720 --> 00:16:38.919 know, the like sideways triangles. Yeah, he was as tall as that 185 00:16:40.039 --> 00:16:44.559 sign and walked into the cornfield. Corn was tall, so it was late, 186 00:16:44.639 --> 00:16:48.879 it was October, and it was all dry and dried, but they 187 00:16:48.919 --> 00:16:52.399 hadn't picked it yet. And he was as tall as that sign and walked 188 00:16:52.399 --> 00:17:00.320 into that corn and disappeared. And we've seen the dog men around on this 189 00:17:00.440 --> 00:17:06.759 area as well. Back in two thousand and seven, I saw what could 190 00:17:06.799 --> 00:17:10.920 be a dog man. I don't want to jump I'll tell you off air 191 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:11.920 more about it. So I don't want to keep talking about on here, 192 00:17:11.960 --> 00:17:18.559 but it's basically, it looked like a black German shepherd or a black wolf 193 00:17:18.559 --> 00:17:22.240 that still looked like a human and walked on two legs and then got down 194 00:17:22.279 --> 00:17:23.880 and went off on its business. And I don't know of any normal dog 195 00:17:23.960 --> 00:17:26.960 that can do that. And I was fifteen feet from it face to face. 196 00:17:29.799 --> 00:17:33.359 That's why I do the podcast because I'm very skeptical, but yet that 197 00:17:33.519 --> 00:17:38.200 makes you really question. It does a lot of things. But now I 198 00:17:38.200 --> 00:17:42.799 can talk to you more about that here after after we're done recording. Yeah, 199 00:17:44.039 --> 00:17:48.680 and I can tell you about what we had to because I don't like 200 00:17:48.759 --> 00:17:57.160 to share locations. Yeah, that's fine typically of that, because it's if 201 00:17:57.200 --> 00:18:03.000 you don't know where I live, it's easy to find MM. But we 202 00:18:03.119 --> 00:18:11.440 have them that migrate through here from May and October. We've My son had 203 00:18:12.119 --> 00:18:19.079 a juvenile that would follow him and a couple of years before I was pregnant 204 00:18:19.079 --> 00:18:25.319 with his sister. And now that I like, I've said this before and 205 00:18:25.400 --> 00:18:29.640 I look back on it, and he was four and there was this big 206 00:18:29.759 --> 00:18:37.079 black dog in my mom's neighborhood that would only come around at night, and 207 00:18:37.160 --> 00:18:41.680 he was afraid of it, and I'd still get so mad at him. 208 00:18:41.680 --> 00:18:47.599 And he'll be twenty one soon. I was like eight months pregnant with his 209 00:18:47.720 --> 00:18:56.319 sister, and he unlocked that front door and took off running. All it 210 00:18:56.480 --> 00:19:00.160 was was those little street lights out front of the house, like night lights. 211 00:19:00.599 --> 00:19:04.160 Yeah, in the neighborhood. And I'm trying to catch him, and 212 00:19:04.200 --> 00:19:07.079 my mom goes, hey, if you don't stop, that big black dog's 213 00:19:07.119 --> 00:19:15.319 going to get you. He stopped in his tracks. It was crazy, 214 00:19:15.400 --> 00:19:18.119 And now that I think about it, I wonder if my dog man sighting 215 00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:25.319 by her house was related to that. I don't know what to think about 216 00:19:25.440 --> 00:19:33.960 dog men because nothing about them seems to be like evolutionary of why they should 217 00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:38.000 be what they are. Obviously there's been reports throughout history, obviously, like 218 00:19:38.039 --> 00:19:41.519 with were wolves, and you had a Nubis and all sorts of different depictions 219 00:19:41.519 --> 00:19:49.519 of these upright walking canines. Right, but where did the evolutionary line come? 220 00:19:49.599 --> 00:19:52.279 If they're a flesh and blood thing, where did that happen at? 221 00:19:52.559 --> 00:19:56.920 Like there's where's the missing link? Like I can't understand a sasquatch because it's 222 00:19:56.920 --> 00:19:59.920 more of a humanoid. And obviously there was other primates that were like that, 223 00:20:00.039 --> 00:20:04.359 so I could see that being an offshoot. It's hard to come to 224 00:20:04.440 --> 00:20:10.200 terms with, like a dog man. And they say there's some are spiritual 225 00:20:10.279 --> 00:20:14.720 too, and some come and go out of portals. Yeah, there's all 226 00:20:14.759 --> 00:20:18.519 sorts of different things. What it comes with all these types of creatures? 227 00:20:18.799 --> 00:20:25.319 And I, what's is it? Coonbo's channel? I don't remember what it's 228 00:20:25.359 --> 00:20:30.200 called. I had listened to it in those Oh, wasn't there one? 229 00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:34.440 I don't know if you listen to them, one that looked like it had 230 00:20:34.559 --> 00:20:42.200 mange and like it was bleeding grain? Am I thinking? I'll be honest, 231 00:20:42.200 --> 00:20:45.839 I don't listen to a whole lot of other podcasts or other channels or 232 00:20:45.880 --> 00:20:52.119 anything like that. This was years ago, like over five years ago. 233 00:20:52.759 --> 00:20:56.359 That's why I'm having trouble remembering it. But if I think correctly, they've 234 00:20:57.039 --> 00:21:02.440 they've said it's like a government exp barrinment, And I guess there's a government 235 00:21:02.599 --> 00:21:08.200 facility where this one was seen. My son's dad saw one in Fort Wayne. 236 00:21:08.359 --> 00:21:15.440 And this is a crazy story. So it goes back to I moved 237 00:21:15.480 --> 00:21:21.319 there. I don't know in the nineties early two thousands. I lived off 238 00:21:21.359 --> 00:21:26.599 of cold water and Wallyn Road out north, which is just around the DuPont 239 00:21:26.680 --> 00:21:32.000 area. So at that time it was a two lane road out there. 240 00:21:32.480 --> 00:21:37.119 It's not like it is today at all. And I lived in Wallin Hills 241 00:21:37.400 --> 00:21:44.400 and the next road up from Wallen was Till Road. And when I met 242 00:21:44.480 --> 00:21:48.359 Jodie, he was telling me about there was a house out there on Walln 243 00:21:48.480 --> 00:21:52.960 Road and a gentleman was taking his dog for a walk and his dog just 244 00:21:53.000 --> 00:21:57.160 stopped in its tracks, it wouldn't move, and he could see something moving 245 00:21:57.240 --> 00:22:03.880 in that house that abandoned house. Police recalled and the house was demolitioned in 246 00:22:03.960 --> 00:22:14.000 twenty four hours pretty quick. Yeah, And I thought, oh my god. 247 00:22:14.039 --> 00:22:17.319 I was in my twenties going in and out at two three in the 248 00:22:17.359 --> 00:22:25.359 morning, and that was right down the road from me. And then I've 249 00:22:25.400 --> 00:22:32.519 always I've mostly lived up north. And I'm trying to think. My youngest 250 00:22:32.599 --> 00:22:38.920 was born in twenty fifteen, so it's probably twenty fourteen, early twenty fifteen. 251 00:22:41.039 --> 00:22:44.720 My daughter I was getting ready to take her to daycare and go to 252 00:22:44.759 --> 00:22:48.839 work. I walked out of the house. We had a deck, went 253 00:22:48.960 --> 00:22:52.200 down, started to put her in the car. She was in kindergarten at 254 00:22:52.240 --> 00:22:59.079 the time, and I look up and I see and they laugh every time 255 00:22:59.119 --> 00:23:03.480 I describe it. You know how gorilla's butt is really round and it walks 256 00:23:03.599 --> 00:23:11.599 on its front paws or whatever you want to call it, above the hood 257 00:23:11.640 --> 00:23:17.880 of that car. All I saw was this butt. It was black, 258 00:23:18.039 --> 00:23:21.240 and that's all you saw. I saw no ears, I saw nothing else. 259 00:23:22.359 --> 00:23:26.759 That's the fastest I've ever got her in that car. And then at 260 00:23:27.000 --> 00:23:36.440 night we were outside and we heard you could you could hear like the sirens 261 00:23:36.480 --> 00:23:40.880 from the fire trucks and stuff. We heard those, but you could also 262 00:23:41.079 --> 00:23:49.039 hear high pitched howls as well. And then my son, my youngest son's 263 00:23:49.119 --> 00:23:56.319 dad was out on oh, what's that road called. It runs behind Myers 264 00:23:56.359 --> 00:24:03.359 off of Limer Road, goes out towards Carol High School, but it's one 265 00:24:03.400 --> 00:24:07.079 of those housing additions out through there. He was driving along at night and 266 00:24:07.119 --> 00:24:14.640 he looked over and there was a dog man looking over the fence like it 267 00:24:14.720 --> 00:24:18.960 was his tallest, the fence that had no problems getting over it, and 268 00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:23.359 it saw him in his headlights. It hunched down, turned around, and 269 00:24:23.400 --> 00:24:27.359 it disappeared. He said, you could not see it. It was snow 270 00:24:27.400 --> 00:24:33.599 out and it and that dog Man was dark and there was snow on the 271 00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:37.240 ground, and he said it just disappeared. He said, he wonders it 272 00:24:37.279 --> 00:24:44.519 didn't come through a portal. The dog Man stuff in portals. There's been 273 00:24:44.599 --> 00:24:49.000 so much stuff lately about it, and it gets to the point to where 274 00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:56.039 it's like, are people saying portals now because it became trendy because years ago 275 00:24:56.119 --> 00:25:00.960 you never heard anything about portals, and now it seems like they've shifted from 276 00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:06.920 being flesh and blood things to more interdimensional things that come popping in and out, 277 00:25:06.960 --> 00:25:11.759 which I do tend to agree that that could be true because it seems 278 00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:15.359 kind of plausible. I guess I don't know, but I feel like in 279 00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:19.519 the last two or three years, this whole portal thing and it's really taken 280 00:25:19.559 --> 00:25:26.559 off. And it's not just the cryptid field, it's also ghosts hunting, 281 00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:33.119 Like everywhere seems to have a portal now, yeah, and UFOs and UAPs, 282 00:25:33.160 --> 00:25:45.200 everything's interdimensional. It's changed a lot since I started that. I'm not 283 00:25:45.240 --> 00:25:48.200 an avid investigator. I don't go out on hunts. I don't do anything 284 00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:51.400 like that. I'm just a guy with a microphone that started a podcast. 285 00:25:51.480 --> 00:25:56.160 I've seen some crazy stuff years ago. I get that this is my safe 286 00:25:56.160 --> 00:26:00.559 way of being an investigator. I don't do any investigating. I do investigating 287 00:26:00.599 --> 00:26:06.960 down here in my basement behind my computer screen. I'm one of the front 288 00:26:06.960 --> 00:26:11.319 line. We'll call me that. I actually do a whole lot more ghosts. 289 00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:17.000 Well, I don't like the term ghost hunting. Yeah, it's too 290 00:26:17.079 --> 00:26:22.920 cheesy, and it makes you think of like back when it first started, 291 00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:26.839 or Zach Begins and everything, and that's another thing. Everything's demonic now, 292 00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:37.720 Yeah, that's a whole nother story in itself. But I do more haunted 293 00:26:37.799 --> 00:26:41.799 location. We'll put it this way, haunted locations. Then I get out 294 00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:48.559 in the field. But we've got a spot over around the wall was see 295 00:26:48.640 --> 00:26:57.839 area. One of the gals I investigate with, well, I ghost hunt 296 00:26:57.880 --> 00:27:06.279 with. She was driving home and she drives like a and Escalade, like 297 00:27:06.359 --> 00:27:11.119 the big huge SUVs and she lives out by one of the lakes, and 298 00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:15.000 her and her husband and were driving home. She was driving and she stopped 299 00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:22.160 because a wolf was as tall as the hood of that suv out by her 300 00:27:22.240 --> 00:27:30.599 area. And we went out there and investigated. We were actually we were 301 00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:37.880 bird watching, that's what we were doing. We were bird watching. I 302 00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:44.079 don't know. I don't know what I would actually do if I ever saw 303 00:27:44.119 --> 00:27:45.599 something strange. Again, I don't know if i'd go after it. I 304 00:27:45.640 --> 00:27:48.920 say I would, but at the same time, I'm like, I've heard 305 00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:51.960 a hell of a lot of horror stories these days of what these things could 306 00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:55.759 possibly do. But I want to be the person, just from my own 307 00:27:55.799 --> 00:27:59.759 sanity to figure out what it actually is. I want to know if it's 308 00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:03.880 spirit, flesh and blood that rips me apart, then I guess I'll know 309 00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:10.359 for two seconds solved. Yeah, Like my own curiosity is I just have 310 00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:12.200 to know. Same thing I've said before, a sasquad, Like if I 311 00:28:12.200 --> 00:28:15.599 ever see a sasquatch, people always have the blurry photos or the shaky hand. 312 00:28:15.759 --> 00:28:19.039 I'm just charging after it. Like I'm not just gonna stand there and 313 00:28:19.039 --> 00:28:22.799 watch it walk out way. I'm gonna chase after and see what happens. 314 00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:26.559 I'm gonna be like I'll look at my friend and go, did you see 315 00:28:26.599 --> 00:28:33.480 that? Are you sure you saw that? But we'll just look at each 316 00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:38.200 other, h make sure we both saw the same thing on the same page. 317 00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:45.319 Our other friend that lives over around all's see. She goes out 318 00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:51.079 in the woods a lot. Her name's Tamala, and she texts me some 319 00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:57.640 crazy questions and sent some photos to me. She goes out by herself in 320 00:28:57.720 --> 00:29:04.559 the woods and takes walk and she's seen structures out there, she asked me. 321 00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:07.720 She texts me one day and she goes, what do you think this 322 00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:11.400 is? She goes, I found three deerheads, ripped off bodies and stuck 323 00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:19.559 on steaks. I said, I'm not sure about that, so I got 324 00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:26.880 a hold. I asked other of us theirs what they thought, and I 325 00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:33.359 don't know if it was sasquatch or if it's dog men. Either way, 326 00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:38.039 she needs to stay out of the woods by herself. I can't imagine walking 327 00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:45.559 up on that. Yeah, that would be I don't go in the woods 328 00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:48.960 anyway. I don't think i'd ever go back in the woods again. Mm 329 00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:56.720 hmm. I don't like snakes, so that's that's kind of why I don't 330 00:29:56.759 --> 00:30:02.000 go out a lot. Sneak don't really bother me. I don't like bugs. 331 00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:08.519 I'm fine with those those spiders. I just don't want to get bit 332 00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:15.559 and die. I don't I don't snake. I don't like spiders. I 333 00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:21.519 don't like praying manises or big old nasty bugs in general. I don't know 334 00:30:21.559 --> 00:30:23.720 what it is. I just never liked them, But praying manises they always 335 00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:26.519 creep me out because they turned their head and watch as you walk past them. 336 00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:32.160 I was like, they look like little aliens. They do. My 337 00:30:32.279 --> 00:30:37.319 son doesn't like them either. He's afraid of them. My youngest is littler 338 00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:38.519 ones are okay. I'll mess around with them, and when they get bigger 339 00:30:38.559 --> 00:30:41.160 and they jump on me, I'm pretty much gonna have a heart attack because 340 00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:47.079 I'll freak out and start screaming. He doesn't like grasshoppers either. Yeah, 341 00:30:47.079 --> 00:30:48.799 I don't like those. I don't they jump on me. I'll knock them 342 00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:51.960 off, but they don't freak me out. But like, for whatever reason, 343 00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:53.359 it's big old. If it's a smaller spider, it's one thing. 344 00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:59.200 But when they get bigger, then I don't like them. Yeah, my 345 00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:06.480 voice. Both my boys they can't stand spiders. It's it's just neither one 346 00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:12.359 of them knew. Both of them's afraid of them. Yeah. Sure, 347 00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:15.599 what the one's gonna do if he moves to Arizona with all the bugs and 348 00:31:17.960 --> 00:31:25.680 Creaky Crawley's out there, So I guess I'll learn that real quick. I 349 00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:34.880 think the tarantula's out there is a no go fat and the scorpions. Definitely, 350 00:31:36.079 --> 00:31:47.960 those two definitely I agree. I agree one hundred and I couldn't do 351 00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:55.000 it. My uncle worked for Jaco, always been twenty five years ago and 352 00:31:55.079 --> 00:32:00.920 it was one of their downsizing they had, and they got him. They 353 00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:07.880 got his youngest son that worked with him, and he went and bought himself 354 00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:13.079 an RV repair business. We thought for sure, they moved to Florida and 355 00:32:13.119 --> 00:32:20.319 they ended up going to Arizona, and they love it out there. I 356 00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:22.960 just hit the handle all the bugs. I've been out there a few times. 357 00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:28.240 It's I didn't mind being out there, but it's not any place i'd 358 00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:30.480 want to be at for an extended period of time. That's what my mom 359 00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:38.720 says. She said that she has to have green grass. She she's because 360 00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:42.880 they asked her, Oh, would they ask her to come back to visit, 361 00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:45.319 and she's like no, She's like, I'll go visit, but I'm 362 00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:52.079 not going to stay long. I have to have my green grass. So 363 00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:58.480 I was out there in August and it was like one hundred and seventeen degrees 364 00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:01.680 when we left, and oh, it's a dry heat. I don't care. 365 00:33:01.720 --> 00:33:07.759 It's still hot. Yeah, yep. And know my cousin dog can't 366 00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:16.319 go outside at a certain temperature. He has him and his girlfriend have a 367 00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:22.920 really nice house and they have what they have grass, but it's I know 368 00:33:23.000 --> 00:33:27.880 it's not is it astra a turf? Maybe they have astra a turf as 369 00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:32.880 grass. But after a certain time of the day when it gets too hot, 370 00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:36.960 their dog can't go outside to go to the bathroom or it'll burn its 371 00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:43.000 paws. Yeah, I know it gets super hot out there, especially everyone 372 00:33:43.079 --> 00:33:47.200 seemed like they had a swimming pool. They did, and then the ground 373 00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:52.599 you walk out there and it burns your feet. Yep. Yeah, they 374 00:33:52.640 --> 00:34:01.000 have a pool. They have a nice pool and stuff. Well, kind 375 00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:06.960 of got off topic for the weird stuff. It's okay, Yeah, it 376 00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:10.400 makes it, it changes it up a bit. Yeah, it's like I 377 00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:14.840 said earlier before we got recorded, and there's no rhymor reason of how I 378 00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:21.280 do the show. It's just open conversation, so it works out. But 379 00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:25.320 yeah, back on to the paranormal side. You say, do more of 380 00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:31.360 a you don't like the term ghost hunting, but say more param normal researching. 381 00:34:32.199 --> 00:34:38.840 Yeah, and investigating. I do more of that. It's kind of 382 00:34:38.840 --> 00:34:45.679 hard to get out in the woods because people like like Tamala, we live 383 00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:51.199 what twenty minutes from each other, thirty minutes, but she has young kids. 384 00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:58.639 She has a two year old. She feels your pain and hers her 385 00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:02.360 son and the that older son, so you know, it's hard to get 386 00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:07.239 people together. And some of the other gals they live down by Indianapolis, 387 00:35:08.679 --> 00:35:16.360 and I've done public events and I didn't have anybody come. So we're trying 388 00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:22.000 to build the NADP up again. So we're gonna I'm going to do some 389 00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:29.199 conferences this year. I'll be in Chicago at one representing the NADP, and 390 00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:35.519 I'm trying to think what else. I have my Crypti conference, so we're 391 00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:39.760 trying to build it back up. When is the Crypto conference supposed to be? 392 00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:50.239 My schedule June twenty ninth at the North Liberty Community Center. Awesome. 393 00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:52.960 Do you have speakers or vendors or anything like that going to be there, 394 00:35:53.159 --> 00:36:02.079 let's start. I am looking for both speakers and vendors. Well, I 395 00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:07.519 might be interested. I'll have to check on the dates, but I'm trying 396 00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:13.760 to get on I'm scheduled for a couple of different ones so far this year, 397 00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:16.440 so I'm trying to the crypto one. The crypto one is definitely right 398 00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:19.519 it now, like it's one of the ones I'm on right now are actually 399 00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:22.280 CRYPTI related. They're paranormal and big Foot. Well, I guess there is 400 00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:24.639 the big Foot one, but I haven't been one hundred percent confirmed on that 401 00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:30.960 one, so I don't know yet. But that Uh, I've got some 402 00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:35.280 stickers and I've got some other things, and like I said, I've been 403 00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:37.880 trying to build up some stuff, so I definitely want to hit up these 404 00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:42.800 conventions and conferences and stuff this year. Yeah, We've got We're going to 405 00:36:43.159 --> 00:36:50.440 Penhurst par Con. We're accepted as vendors there this year. Nice. I'm 406 00:36:50.480 --> 00:36:54.679 looking forward to that. And then we're going to the one I suppose I 407 00:36:54.800 --> 00:37:02.079 probably should write it down. It's June ninth, that second week of June, 408 00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:08.679 we're going to the it's a Chicago paraqon. I try to think, 409 00:37:08.719 --> 00:37:15.320 what else is there anything you want to talk about from the paranormal side. 410 00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:19.599 I know we talked a little bit about cryptids and everything, but we jump 411 00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:24.679 into those paranormal stories. Would you like a funny story Hey, I'm always 412 00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:30.920 good for a laugh here and there. So this is one of our favorite 413 00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:37.000 stories. So we went to Eloise Asylum up in Westfield, Michigan, just 414 00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:44.559 west of Detroit and very active place. I'd like to go back. We 415 00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:51.960 all would like to go back. And we're walking around the lady's like, 416 00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:54.519 oh, people who go in this room get scratched. Becky walks in, 417 00:37:54.639 --> 00:38:00.039 she gets scratched, and she tells us that chair, that always happens to 418 00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:04.840 someone around that chair, So maybe and meat I sat down and got scratched 419 00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:09.639 twice in that chair. We go on to other levels and we're investigating and 420 00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:14.719 we're laughing. We had the SB seven the spirit box going, and we're 421 00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:20.679 giving Becky a hard time about her new equipment and they say my name and 422 00:38:20.719 --> 00:38:24.320 then they say Becky's and we were laughing and we heard over the spirit box 423 00:38:24.519 --> 00:38:30.039 ha ha ha ha Clarus day and I guess later in the night. So 424 00:38:31.320 --> 00:38:37.559 one of our last stops was the doctor's ward where the doctors would lived out. 425 00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:43.960 That was the Elois and we walk in there and we flipped the spirit 426 00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:51.000 box on. None of us had recorders going. We were too stumped to 427 00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:58.559 realize we didn't have recorders on. We heard somebody getting busy. Then we 428 00:38:58.679 --> 00:39:01.199 turned the other spirit box on. You can hear it on both spirit boxes, 429 00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:07.039 and we're just looking at each other like are you hearing this? Yeah? 430 00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:09.440 Do you hear it? We're just making sure that's the craziest thing that's 431 00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:20.519 ever happened to us. So that's my funny story world. But I have 432 00:39:20.599 --> 00:39:23.800 some creepy ones too, and so I'm down to listen to some creepy ones 433 00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:32.079 too. We went to We're involved with Global ghost Hunt, which is live 434 00:39:32.239 --> 00:39:37.960 and you can go on the YouTube channel and watch this calling When Art Center, 435 00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:42.559 one of the most active locations I've ever been at. Over in Toledo, 436 00:39:42.599 --> 00:39:49.960 Ohio, used to be a uh convent and they still have They used 437 00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:54.599 to call their bedroom cells, which is kind of creepy, and it has 438 00:39:54.639 --> 00:40:00.000 a big auditorium with a dome theater. It was a school at one time. 439 00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:07.360 The house out front they lived in that house and things are supposedly thrown 440 00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:15.239 in the basement. There's actually a pentagram painted on the basement floor. And 441 00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:21.800 we go upstairs in the house and you can watch all this start taking place. 442 00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:28.559 About twenty minutes for our two hour video ends ten fifteen, twenty minutes 443 00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:36.920 and I'm doing the SD's method, and you can hear somebody go Jen, 444 00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:43.000 Jen, we need you. They pulled me out, and my best friend's 445 00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:45.320 daughter is sitting there, rocking and saying, don't touch me, leave me 446 00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:52.559 alone. Nobody's touching her, nobody's doing anything to her. So we try 447 00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:57.599 to get her to go downstairs. No I'm not going, and her mom 448 00:40:57.679 --> 00:41:01.760 standing about two feet away from her, and I'm like, come on, 449 00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:06.280 Katie, you go ahead, you go downstairs first. No, I'm not 450 00:41:06.440 --> 00:41:10.039 going. They're telling me you're gonna push me down the steps. I'm sorry, 451 00:41:10.079 --> 00:41:15.800 who's telling you what? You're gonna push me down the steps? Says 452 00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:20.280 okay, I'll go first. You can follow me between me and your mom 453 00:41:20.360 --> 00:41:24.320 so we know you're okay. And her mom's staying about to feel away from 454 00:41:24.360 --> 00:41:30.639 her and am I allowed to cuss on your show? Yeah, that's fine. 455 00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:34.800 I don't, okay, So she is losing it. She's like, 456 00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:39.760 quit fucking touching me, screaming at us, and her mom goes, Katie, 457 00:41:39.800 --> 00:41:45.159 nobody's touching you. I told you to quit screaming at me and quit 458 00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:51.119 fucking touching me. Nobody's screaming at her. We're all talking in a normal 459 00:41:51.159 --> 00:41:54.039 tone, trying to get her move her happy buns downstairs so we can get 460 00:41:54.039 --> 00:42:00.760 her outside to get her grounded. Finally get her to move and down you 461 00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:05.599 go. It's on the second floor and it's wood and mind you, I'll 462 00:42:05.639 --> 00:42:08.079 tell you that why I'm going to say this. So we come down to 463 00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:13.280 the second the first floor to go to the basement, which we had to 464 00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:21.119 go through to get outside, and Becky, who is my partner and anything 465 00:42:21.159 --> 00:42:25.480 we do, she I hear her and I never heard her do this before. 466 00:42:25.519 --> 00:42:28.800 She goes, go go go, go, go, go go, 467 00:42:29.360 --> 00:42:35.280 and I'm like, what the what she said? On that wood floor she 468 00:42:35.360 --> 00:42:39.280 heard somebody running up behind her. There was a woman that had got pushed 469 00:42:39.320 --> 00:42:45.519 down those steps and died before, like in the past, so she's thinking 470 00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:50.599 somebody's running up behind her to push her down those steps. So we get 471 00:42:50.679 --> 00:42:53.159 Katie to the first floor, trying to get her to go down to the 472 00:42:53.199 --> 00:42:58.239 stairs that goes to the basement. She's like, I'm not going down there, 473 00:42:58.480 --> 00:43:00.400 and we're like, come on, we gotta get your side. She 474 00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:05.280 goes, no, there's that big black man standing there. And I looked 475 00:43:05.280 --> 00:43:07.159 at her. She goes, no, not like a black person. She 476 00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:12.719 goes a big black mass. It's a man. That's a big black mass. 477 00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:19.400 I'm like, it's it was like solid to her, like a mass. 478 00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:23.039 I guess the shadow figure. But she's like, you don't see how 479 00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:29.199 like Katie, I don't see anything. I'm like, I need you to 480 00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:32.239 go, I need you to get outside. And she was, Oh, 481 00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:36.079 I don't know how in the world we got her to move, but we 482 00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:44.800 got her outside. It took me two hours to ground her and pull whatever 483 00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:46.960 it was trying to attach to her. I think it was left in the 484 00:43:47.000 --> 00:43:53.880 building. But to get her cleansed and grounded took me two hours. A 485 00:43:53.960 --> 00:44:00.639 ton of sage, a ton of celennite, her mom gave her a my 486 00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:07.519 brain died the black stone. Uh, it's like right there. But by 487 00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:15.199 morning that that necklace we had wrapped around as a bracelet had broke. Something 488 00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:22.320 is really trying to attach to her that night. That's one of the scariest 489 00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:25.039 thing. Well, I don't know if it's really scary. Wasn't scary for 490 00:44:25.159 --> 00:44:30.639 me. I was just getting irritated because it wouldn't leave her alone. But 491 00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:35.440 it was scary for her and that's one of the craziest things that I've had 492 00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:45.000 happen. How about you can watch that what our puppy is carrying around? 493 00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:52.920 Thank you. Our puppy is carrying around my son's uh PlayStation headphones with the 494 00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:59.519 microphone. Yeah, that's what happened. I'm sure he wouldn't enjoy it being 495 00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:04.960 chewed up by a dog. I don't want to go buy any That's why 496 00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:09.519 I'm like, no, let's not do this. But that's one of the 497 00:45:09.559 --> 00:45:14.800 creepier things that's happened. We had the funny one, the creepy one. 498 00:45:16.559 --> 00:45:22.360 Is there anything else that? I don't want to keep jumping around back and 499 00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:27.639 forth. But you'd mentioned, like earlier with dog men. He said that 500 00:45:27.719 --> 00:45:32.440 they my great my kind of migrate through the area or whatever. Right, 501 00:45:35.960 --> 00:45:39.760 has there been any way to try and actually like get evidence of that as 502 00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:45.960 anyone actually went out there and tried to see that for sure? I can 503 00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:52.159 tell you it happens every year around the same time, because we have stuff 504 00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:58.679 that's happened. It happens around the same time every year. I live in 505 00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:05.039 the country. Mm hm, And I can tell you it happens every year 506 00:46:05.079 --> 00:46:09.280 around the same time. And they've actually, somebody told me up by Middlebury 507 00:46:09.320 --> 00:46:19.320 they've seen sasquatch. I'm curious what the Amish have seen, but you know, 508 00:46:19.400 --> 00:46:27.360 they won't talk. I'd really like to know, like late at night, 509 00:46:27.559 --> 00:46:30.320 what they have seen on their farms or even out in their buggies and 510 00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:37.800 stuff. I'm really I've never really thought about that, but that is a 511 00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:40.760 good point. Like, yeah, with vehicles and everything, it's going to 512 00:46:40.840 --> 00:46:45.039 scare animals away because they hear it. They see the lights and everything. 513 00:46:45.079 --> 00:46:49.119 With your out and about on a horse and buggy, I mean you're gonna 514 00:46:49.159 --> 00:46:52.000 hear the footsteps or the clicking. Then obviously the things have a keen sense 515 00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:53.719 of smell. They're gonna smell it, but it's a little different than a 516 00:46:53.800 --> 00:47:00.760 vehicle exactly. And in their farms, have they had stuff come around on 517 00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:07.639 their farms? Has any of their animals been slaughtered or taken? I'm really 518 00:47:07.880 --> 00:47:14.440 super super curious, but I don't know any Amish folks that be willing to 519 00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:20.360 talk to me. My kids actually go to school with some that are I 520 00:47:20.360 --> 00:47:22.280 don't know if they're one hundred percent Amish, because I don't think they'd go 521 00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:30.719 to normal school, but they live that type of lifestyle. Uh huh, 522 00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:35.400 So I don't know one of them. They're there, they've actually left. 523 00:47:35.480 --> 00:47:38.840 I guess the religion, I don't. I don't know how that works. 524 00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:43.079 I don't know anything about the Amish culture or religion or anything like that. 525 00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:49.079 So, but uh, maybe I could talk to one of them now that 526 00:47:49.119 --> 00:47:52.920 they're not Amish anymore. Yeah, I know. I know a few people 527 00:47:53.440 --> 00:48:01.840 that's no longer Amlish that became English. Yeah, I'm really curious what they've 528 00:48:01.880 --> 00:48:09.239 seen or what they've experienced. Have they had anything happened? So if there's 529 00:48:09.280 --> 00:48:16.000 any Homish people that want to talk to me, they can. I'm I'm 530 00:48:16.039 --> 00:48:24.880 in the mindset that, like without sounding weird or strange, like, I'm 531 00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:29.639 in the mindset of if I can figure out where these dog men are supposed 532 00:48:29.679 --> 00:48:32.840 to be at, and everyone's about what I'm going to look for. I 533 00:48:32.920 --> 00:48:35.880 said, before I see one walk out in front of me, again, 534 00:48:35.880 --> 00:48:43.960 I'm just gonna run it over one or the other. Well, the thing 535 00:48:44.039 --> 00:48:46.519 before, but I we had to swerve out of the road, so in 536 00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:51.599 the middle of the road, and then the next time something comes walking out 537 00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:52.159 in front of the road, and I'm not gonna try and sfer them it's 538 00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:57.559 gonna splatter it. I was like, then I'll have my proof one way 539 00:48:57.599 --> 00:49:01.000 or the other. That's right there without a camera in the car. Yeah, 540 00:49:01.639 --> 00:49:05.039 I don't care if I have to prove it to the rest of the 541 00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:07.599 world alone, that I prove it to myself and I'll know it wasn't crazy, 542 00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:17.199 right. Yeah, I once in a great while, Oh I did. 543 00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:24.079 We're talking about Sasquatch. I just remembered this, so it was it's 544 00:49:24.119 --> 00:49:29.079 been I don't know. I was still working at Oakland at the time, 545 00:49:29.239 --> 00:49:35.079 so four or five years ago. I've been at my current job over two 546 00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:39.519 years. So about four years ago, one of the winter storms, we 547 00:49:39.760 --> 00:49:45.039 had walked outside and I started my car to get it warmed up and to 548 00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:52.199 clean it off, and the lights were shining. I happened to look down 549 00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:55.159 and my daughter laid down and she's like, Mom, look at these footprints. 550 00:49:57.159 --> 00:50:00.199 And I'd have to dig the pictures up, but they are They look 551 00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:08.320 like actual feet, like you know how you walk in water and you'll leave 552 00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:15.159 your footprints. It looked like feet, like there were tiny feet and then 553 00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:19.960 bigger feet just in the snow, and then they just disappeared. I almost 554 00:50:20.119 --> 00:50:27.320 ran over them and walked on them. And then one summer I went outside. 555 00:50:27.639 --> 00:50:30.679 It's been a couple times it's happened to me. It's been in the 556 00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:36.360 spring usually, but there's like a gift laying on my deck. The one 557 00:50:36.400 --> 00:50:39.760 time it was the walnut shells. I think they're walnuts, the green hard 558 00:50:39.840 --> 00:50:46.199 things that look like remind me of tennis balls that you run over, but 559 00:50:46.880 --> 00:50:52.360 how they peel back. Those were laying there right on the steps where I 560 00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:55.960 would have to walk over it to get down. And then there was a 561 00:50:57.000 --> 00:51:05.920 little pile of rocks out there too, So I don't know. I don't 562 00:51:05.960 --> 00:51:09.800 know how they got their footprints in the snow. There was no footprints coming 563 00:51:09.920 --> 00:51:15.840 or footprints going. It was just footprints in that one spot in front of 564 00:51:15.880 --> 00:51:21.119 my suv, like right where I would see them. It was positioned perfectly, 565 00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:24.719 but it looked like somebody had walked in the snow and their feet had 566 00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:30.519 melted around the snow and they were probably a good, I don't know, 567 00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:37.360 foot and a half about how big do you think they were? Probably foot 568 00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:43.559 in the half foot in the half yeah, foot foot and a half. 569 00:51:43.639 --> 00:51:49.800 Yeah. Because some I've seen people recently and they say, oh, they 570 00:51:49.960 --> 00:51:54.320 found sasquatch or track and they measure them and they're like thirteen fourteen inches. 571 00:51:54.519 --> 00:52:00.440 That seems pretty big. I wear a size fourteen shoe, so is almost 572 00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:05.960 that big. And when I see things like people like, oh, it's 573 00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:08.360 like a huge footprint, is like, I mean, I guess I have 574 00:52:08.440 --> 00:52:12.000 a huge foot. I don't know, Like when I think of like a 575 00:52:12.000 --> 00:52:15.000 bigfoot, I'm thinking of like, like you said, eighteen inches to are 576 00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:20.000 bigger and wider. But I've seen a lot of people lately been putting out 577 00:52:20.039 --> 00:52:23.360 photos of footprints that don't look super large. They're like, well, it 578 00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:29.000 must be a juvenile. Why would anyone be out walking barefoot in the snow. 579 00:52:29.039 --> 00:52:31.239 I don't know. But it's not in the realm of someone else trying 580 00:52:31.239 --> 00:52:37.480 to fake it either. Like it was just crazy because there was no footprints 581 00:52:37.480 --> 00:52:42.079 coming there, and there was no footprints leaving, and it was just those 582 00:52:42.159 --> 00:52:45.679 footprints in that spot in front of my truck, right where when I would 583 00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:50.079 turn them on, turn my lights on to start it, you would see 584 00:52:50.079 --> 00:52:55.039 it. Because, believe me, we looked. My daughter was looking, 585 00:52:55.239 --> 00:53:00.639 my son, my youngest son was looking. I was looking nothing. It 586 00:53:00.679 --> 00:53:06.119 was just that spot. I have pictures i'd have to dig them up now 587 00:53:06.159 --> 00:53:12.760 they think about it. I don't know. I don't know how familiar are 588 00:53:12.760 --> 00:53:17.360 with some of these alleged dog man pictures and with you being a part of 589 00:53:17.400 --> 00:53:22.800 the NADP. I know on their website. I'm actually got it right now. 590 00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:29.039 That was the Ohio dog Man allegedly captured on the trail cam. Someone 591 00:53:29.079 --> 00:53:31.719 said that's from Dog Soldiers. I've seen it floating around and everything else. 592 00:53:31.719 --> 00:53:45.679 They said, that's a clip from Dog Soldiers. See what. Yeah, 593 00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:47.599 it's like the first things that are on there when you scroll down, it 594 00:53:47.679 --> 00:53:55.840 says it does look very much like the thing from Dogs. Dogs Soldiers is 595 00:53:55.880 --> 00:53:59.880 one of my favorite werewolf movies. So I've seen that. I've seen people 596 00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:01.559 hosten up in the groups and everything. I was like, this is what 597 00:54:02.159 --> 00:54:10.320 irritates me when it comes to these things, because people will steal photos and 598 00:54:10.360 --> 00:54:14.920 then try and oh I took these photos. It's like, we'll look like 599 00:54:14.960 --> 00:54:19.800 capturles it's clearly not true, and then it just spreads and everyone else keeps 600 00:54:19.800 --> 00:54:24.880 spreading on, like that's why it's a discredit to the actual research. When 601 00:54:24.920 --> 00:54:31.440 people are just spreading up bullshit. Is it the Ohio dog Man? Allegedly 602 00:54:31.480 --> 00:54:39.639 capture on trail Pam Yep, said Richard m Candless mckinlesh. Yeah, those 603 00:54:39.639 --> 00:54:45.519 photos look like from dog Soldiers, And I've seen people commenting on in these 604 00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:50.599 dog man groups and these photos get brought up that it's from dog soldiers. 605 00:54:51.920 --> 00:55:00.519 It. I think it's shaped differently then what I've encountered. It doesn't look 606 00:55:00.559 --> 00:55:12.239 like anything that I saw. To me, I don't know, like the 607 00:55:12.280 --> 00:55:15.599 thing that I saw, it didn't have the humanish vibe too, like, 608 00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:21.519 it didn't have hands, it didn't have like humanoid body like. It looked 609 00:55:21.559 --> 00:55:27.840 like a normal canine but had the ability to stand up and walk on two 610 00:55:27.920 --> 00:55:30.320 lakes. So I don't know how to I guess it doesn't make any sense. 611 00:55:31.639 --> 00:55:39.159 The one I saw was from like the site in the back, and 612 00:55:39.239 --> 00:55:43.400 I can tell you it was. It was almost to the roof of my 613 00:55:43.559 --> 00:55:51.800 mom's neighbor's house. Pupper's come here. She's getting anxious for my daughter to 614 00:55:51.840 --> 00:55:57.280 get home. I guess I'm bothering her now, but she's getting her zoom 615 00:55:57.480 --> 00:56:04.559 zoomies on too. But it was almost to the gutter on the neighbor across 616 00:56:04.599 --> 00:56:10.639 the streets house. It was almost that high and the shoulders were probably I 617 00:56:10.639 --> 00:56:15.199 don't know. The thing was huge, and I could see the long arms 618 00:56:15.239 --> 00:56:22.679 and you could see like the long claws or nails on it. I'm gonna 619 00:56:22.679 --> 00:56:27.159 freak myself out talking about this. I gotta take her out the body look 620 00:56:27.199 --> 00:56:32.920 at me. Well, we could probably wrap this up if you're good with 621 00:56:34.000 --> 00:56:36.280 that. If there's anything else you want to talk about, we can always 622 00:56:36.400 --> 00:56:39.880 try and do another episode. My daughter's not home yet, and I'm like, 623 00:56:40.800 --> 00:56:45.760 I'm talking about this stuff. And well, the reason I say that 624 00:56:45.000 --> 00:56:49.519 is because about the time we saw ours, my son and I did. 625 00:56:50.719 --> 00:56:53.239 We had come home and it was in October, and we had seen it 626 00:56:53.280 --> 00:56:59.880 on and off from May through the summer, and in October, I had 627 00:57:00.079 --> 00:57:05.480 come home to drop groceries off before I took them over to my mom's to 628 00:57:05.639 --> 00:57:09.840 visit, and I have security lights. My oldest guss Well, you know, 629 00:57:09.960 --> 00:57:14.119 mom, it's probably the dog men. It's like, oh my god. 630 00:57:14.119 --> 00:57:17.159 Okay, that's what I was thinking. So brought the groceries and everything 631 00:57:17.280 --> 00:57:21.079 was good, went over to my mom's for a little bit. We came 632 00:57:21.199 --> 00:57:28.000 home and I have a metal roof, and we get out security lights on 633 00:57:28.159 --> 00:57:31.000 back porch lights on I can't see up above me, but you know how 634 00:57:31.119 --> 00:57:39.159 you a nail will hit something metallic and make that tink tink noise. Tell 635 00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:45.559 me why I heard three distinct tink tink tink when I was trying to get 636 00:57:45.559 --> 00:57:47.920 in the house and my mom, my daughter says, Mom, somebody just 637 00:57:47.960 --> 00:57:51.440 said something. I said, what they say? She goes, I don't 638 00:57:51.519 --> 00:57:53.039 know, but they're trying to talk to us. Let's get in the house. 639 00:57:55.239 --> 00:58:00.199 That's why I'm like, I'm freaking myself out. I think Arianic can 640 00:58:00.199 --> 00:58:07.400 take the cat dog out when she gets home. They the tinking. I 641 00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:10.079 have a metal roof too, It doesn't like someone would be tapping on if 642 00:58:10.119 --> 00:58:15.400 you can hear that tink tink tink. And she says that there's sometimes at 643 00:58:15.480 --> 00:58:22.960 night that she can hear stuff running up above her on the roof and there's 644 00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:29.599 nothing over the house, there's no trees or anything. And I remember one 645 00:58:29.719 --> 00:58:36.559 night and I don't think it was a dream, but like you know when 646 00:58:36.599 --> 00:58:39.400 you have mice inside your walls and they make that really loud scratching noise. 647 00:58:40.000 --> 00:58:45.440 Yeah, it was so loud like that that it woke me up, like 648 00:58:45.519 --> 00:58:52.519 something was climbing up the walls or was running on the roof. It woke 649 00:58:52.599 --> 00:59:04.719 me up. We get out in our garage. We get random mice and 650 00:59:04.800 --> 00:59:07.719 we have attached garage and they come down into the basement is literally right by 651 00:59:07.760 --> 00:59:13.079 the garage and it's where the stairwell comes down into And for some reason, 652 00:59:13.119 --> 00:59:15.760 I think they get in the wall and they die, because every once in 653 00:59:15.800 --> 00:59:20.280 a while we'll get like dead animals. Smell. I can never find it. 654 00:59:20.280 --> 00:59:22.639 Always smells like it's in the wall, but it's bricks. I can't 655 00:59:22.719 --> 00:59:25.239 get to it because my going to tear aund with cinder blocks to find it. 656 00:59:27.039 --> 00:59:30.000 Right, Yeah, they do. They get inside the walls and they'll 657 00:59:30.039 --> 00:59:37.360 die in there. We've had that happen too, good old uh rodents for 658 00:59:37.480 --> 00:59:44.960 you, I know, right, But yeah, that's that's my craziness. 659 00:59:45.039 --> 00:59:51.599 If you go on you can listen to I gotta find it report citing evidence. 660 00:59:52.280 --> 01:00:00.320 I believe. Oh the audio, some of those sound crazy. The 661 01:00:00.719 --> 01:00:10.119 airport, she's got the zoomies, she's silly. Yeah, she's probably ready 662 01:00:10.119 --> 01:00:15.320 to go out. Yeah, my dog likes to go out and bark and 663 01:00:15.320 --> 01:00:16.880 then jump into the window. So she hits out like we have a sliding 664 01:00:16.920 --> 01:00:23.199 door, and she slams into it. Yeah, she's only about four months 665 01:00:23.199 --> 01:00:29.920 old. We have an all white German shepherd that's three years old and she 666 01:00:30.159 --> 01:00:32.840 weighs like seventy something almost eighty pounds. Once she's done, she just jumps 667 01:00:32.880 --> 01:00:37.519 into the sliding glass something. One of these days you is going to go 668 01:00:37.599 --> 01:00:43.000 through the class. Yeah, she's gonna be big. She is part poodle 669 01:00:43.159 --> 01:00:47.000 and part Burmese mountain dog. She's the Berna doodle. Okay, Yeah, 670 01:00:47.039 --> 01:00:52.280 she'll be a huge dog. Yeah. She looks like those little goats right 671 01:00:52.320 --> 01:00:58.679 now, Like how they had the baby goats videos where they jump around and 672 01:00:58.719 --> 01:01:02.320 they look really cute. She tends to jump and her paws look like theirs 673 01:01:02.519 --> 01:01:07.280 with the fluffy on on it, and so she looks like a little baby 674 01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:13.960 goat jumping around. Mmm, it's cute. I should do a TikTok on 675 01:01:14.000 --> 01:01:17.960 her and make her TikTok famous. Well, from what I saw, their 676 01:01:17.960 --> 01:01:22.280 banning TikTok soow that's supposed to happen anymore. But I heard that too. 677 01:01:23.719 --> 01:01:28.360 I heard they're getting rid of completely off top. I bet anyone that's ever 678 01:01:28.400 --> 01:01:30.360 listened to my episodes know how I feel about the government, and I think 679 01:01:30.360 --> 01:01:34.239 it's worthless. They can't agree on anything, but they can come together and 680 01:01:34.280 --> 01:01:37.119 agree that we don't need TikTok, which I don't care because I don't use 681 01:01:37.159 --> 01:01:42.880 TikTok anyways, but I do to promote my events. I made one. 682 01:01:42.920 --> 01:01:45.599 I put one video on it for the podcast, and I had like five 683 01:01:45.679 --> 01:01:47.920 views and I was like, Okay, it's so stupid, and I used 684 01:01:47.920 --> 01:01:57.760 to a kin. Actually I watched some live investigations on there. There's a 685 01:01:57.840 --> 01:02:07.159 team called Blue Collar Paranormal and they they run like they manage five or six 686 01:02:07.239 --> 01:02:13.159 hunted locations and every night they're at one of those locations. And I've actually 687 01:02:13.199 --> 01:02:16.960 have three of them booked for this year. So I'm like, hmm, 688 01:02:17.119 --> 01:02:21.159 what am I getting into when I go there? And the one place I'm 689 01:02:21.199 --> 01:02:23.920 really looking forward to it's an old It was a brothel at one time, 690 01:02:24.079 --> 01:02:30.000 it was a funeral home and it was a private home so and then it 691 01:02:30.119 --> 01:02:37.440 wasn't it was a senior living place like a nursing home. So I'm really 692 01:02:37.480 --> 01:02:45.280 looking forward to going there. Well, is there anything else you would like 693 01:02:45.320 --> 01:02:51.440 to discuss or do you think you're rador about wrap this one up? Can 694 01:02:51.480 --> 01:02:57.239 I promo my events coming up? Whatever it is you would like to promote. 695 01:02:57.239 --> 01:03:02.280 Go right ahead. So one next weekend we're gonna have the Women of 696 01:03:02.320 --> 01:03:08.599 the Paranormal Celebration, which is open to everyone. That will be at Brushy 697 01:03:08.639 --> 01:03:15.480 Mountain State Penitentiary. On the twenty third is where we're gonna investigate old historic 698 01:03:15.559 --> 01:03:20.519 Harraman Hospital. On the twenty fourth is our investigation. We will have a 699 01:03:20.599 --> 01:03:25.360 conference on Saturday and Sunday at Temperance Hall in harrim And, Tennessee. Saturday, 700 01:03:25.400 --> 01:03:30.679 we'll have all kinds of topics, panels and from women all over. 701 01:03:31.559 --> 01:03:37.000 We have some gals coming in from Colorado. On Sunday, we'll have psychic 702 01:03:37.079 --> 01:03:45.519 and metaphysical Sunday and Catherine Cirillos from Greece will be doing a virtual event or 703 01:03:45.599 --> 01:03:52.480 doing a virtually gallery reading. We still have tickets for that. Then on 704 01:03:52.800 --> 01:03:59.400 you may be interested in this one. On April twenty seventh, I will 705 01:03:59.440 --> 01:04:06.199 have the Lake Erie Parafest over in Sandusky, Ohio, and we have men 706 01:04:06.239 --> 01:04:10.760 and women both. It'll be at the Merrygo Round Museum. We're gonna hold 707 01:04:10.760 --> 01:04:15.880 the conference there during the day, take a nice dinner, break, come 708 01:04:15.920 --> 01:04:19.400 back and investigate. We're gonna have family Investigations for ten years. Of age 709 01:04:19.480 --> 01:04:24.920 up to seventeen with a parent for an hour and a half so you can 710 01:04:24.960 --> 01:04:30.960 bring your kids out and investigate with them. And then from nine thirty to 711 01:04:30.079 --> 01:04:36.679 two am it's eighteen and over. And then what else do I have? 712 01:04:38.199 --> 01:04:45.239 Those are for domestic violence and sexual assault victims in their families. And then 713 01:04:45.320 --> 01:04:47.239 we have the mint in this one you might be interested in. Men of 714 01:04:47.280 --> 01:04:55.920 the Paranormal Convention will be at Ashmore Estates in Ashmore, Illinois. That's a 715 01:04:56.000 --> 01:05:01.159 fundraiser for domestic violence and sexual assaultvictims and their families, because it doesn't just 716 01:05:01.199 --> 01:05:04.360 happen to women. It can happen the minto. I know some guys that's 717 01:05:04.400 --> 01:05:12.599 happened to And we'll be investigating Ashmore Estates too, and we still need vendors, 718 01:05:12.639 --> 01:05:17.480 speakers, lead investigators for that. And that's all my fun stuff, 719 01:05:17.519 --> 01:05:23.679 plus the Michigana Cryptic hon we talked about earlier on June twenty ninth than North 720 01:05:23.679 --> 01:05:28.599 Liberty. I said, some of the stuff you mentioned by the time this 721 01:05:28.719 --> 01:05:31.679 air, that will already be over with Oh okay, yeah, stuff in 722 01:05:31.719 --> 01:05:36.559 the beginning like this probably won't come out until some time in May. Oh 723 01:05:36.639 --> 01:05:43.920 okay, yeah. I we always have twenty twenty five. Now I have 724 01:05:44.719 --> 01:05:49.440 even with releasing two episodes a week, I'm I've got like fourteen or fifteen 725 01:05:49.440 --> 01:05:56.119 episodes already recorded ahead, so I record like I record two or three episodes 726 01:05:56.159 --> 01:06:05.000 a week. I am going to have in Santa on th thank thank October 727 01:06:05.559 --> 01:06:13.519 fifth. There it is. We're gonna have the Lake Erie halifat Hallo Fet 728 01:06:14.039 --> 01:06:19.119 like Halloween Hallowfest. And I'm not sure where the convention will be held yet 729 01:06:19.440 --> 01:06:25.400 or the conference, but I just talked to a place that's about thirty minutes 730 01:06:25.440 --> 01:06:28.760 away. I'm not sure how to say it. It's a bile or bal 731 01:06:29.039 --> 01:06:32.920 manner, is b I hl And they just agreed we can do a public 732 01:06:33.000 --> 01:06:38.840 investigation there after our conference, and we can do trick or treat for the 733 01:06:38.920 --> 01:06:43.280 kids. We always like to do something in October. Yeah, for our 734 01:06:43.360 --> 01:06:45.760 events to help the kids. Let the kids have fun, come out and 735 01:06:45.760 --> 01:06:49.280 see what we do and let them trick or treat and check out on a 736 01:06:49.360 --> 01:06:58.679 location. No, I think it's great to have everyone involved. But for 737 01:06:58.760 --> 01:07:02.280 anyone listening, I will include you can send it to me in an email 738 01:07:02.400 --> 01:07:05.079 and I will include all of the information in the show notes. So for 739 01:07:05.119 --> 01:07:09.599 anyone that's interested, then go into the show notes for the show and they 740 01:07:09.599 --> 01:07:13.480 can get all of the dates and locations and everything for those events. All 741 01:07:13.599 --> 01:07:17.760 right, and if anyone wants to reach out to you, I'll include your 742 01:07:17.800 --> 01:07:23.760 website and stuff too well. I appreciate that we're on Facebook, TikTok if 743 01:07:23.760 --> 01:07:29.679 it's still alive, Instagram. I figure we need to do all the socials. 744 01:07:29.719 --> 01:07:36.000 So yeah, people find us and what we're about everything. So we're 745 01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:40.440 pretty busy this year. I think I have booked twenty locations so far and 746 01:07:40.480 --> 01:07:45.079 we're gonna add a few more. We've got several conferences too, Global ghost 747 01:07:45.159 --> 01:07:48.559 Hunt. Yeah, it definitely sounds like you got a lot going on. 748 01:07:49.280 --> 01:07:53.719 I think we're going to go ahead now and head on out. So again, 749 01:07:53.840 --> 01:07:56.519 check out the show notes. You can keep up with what Jennifer's got 750 01:07:56.559 --> 01:08:00.000 going on. But thanks for listening, Thanks for Jennifer coming out here talking 751 01:08:00.960 --> 01:08:10.519 about me. Good Night everyone. Remember the truth lies, and the stories 752 01:08:10.519 --> 01:08:14.159 we share, the connections we make, stay curious, stay open minded. 753 01:08:14.440 --> 01:08:16.239 Thank you all for joining us on this journey, and until next time, 754 01:08:16.760 --> 01:08:50.600 keep questioning, keep seeking, and keep exploring. The EndNote, good night everyone,