WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.439 --> 00:00:07.519 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jacon Zalis on Fox Sports 2 00:00:07.559 --> 00:00:13.480 fourteen fifteen powered by Nova Insurance Services, Hed Sure your most Prized Possessions, 3 00:00:13.640 --> 00:00:18.239 katz R two SOA and I Heeart Radio Station. Hey, good afternoon, 4 00:00:18.239 --> 00:00:21.079 everybody. Welcome to I on the Ball here on Fox Towards fourteen fifty. 5 00:00:21.120 --> 00:00:25.760 I'm Steve Rivera. He's Jagon Zos. We have a new intern today, 6 00:00:25.920 --> 00:00:30.079 Sid from Gilbert, the guy who hates a issue. Yeah, yep, 7 00:00:30.280 --> 00:00:34.039 I also hate to you and I'm happy to be here. Good answers. 8 00:00:34.320 --> 00:00:36.920 Wait, Wait, well, I want to mention. We just found out 9 00:00:36.960 --> 00:00:42.600 from Sid that his your uncle and your dad's your dad's friend was was a 10 00:00:42.759 --> 00:00:45.719 very good football player at Arizona in the mid eighties, Gordon Bunch. So 11 00:00:45.759 --> 00:00:50.240 it was nice to hear that. So it's got some it's got some connections 12 00:00:50.240 --> 00:00:53.960 to Tucson, and you was smart enough to come to the U instead of 13 00:00:54.000 --> 00:00:57.520 going today. We had Lamont Hunley yesterday played during that era. Had you 14 00:00:57.600 --> 00:01:00.240 been on yesterday, you could ask him some questions. What's about where you 15 00:01:00.280 --> 00:01:03.560 could? Do you know stuff about La Monta we should know? Uh No, 16 00:01:03.640 --> 00:01:06.079 I actually just met him for the first time on the weekend. So 17 00:01:06.239 --> 00:01:07.799 that was fun though, Okay was it cool for you? Was it cool 18 00:01:07.799 --> 00:01:11.560 for you to be there with him? Oh yeah, meeting Cecil and all 19 00:01:11.560 --> 00:01:14.879 those guys. Hearing the stories, that's great. They never get old, 20 00:01:14.879 --> 00:01:17.879 even if you don't know what the story is, right. Yeah, So 21 00:01:17.959 --> 00:01:19.760 wait a minute, Wait a minute, nineteen eighty five. That's thirty years 22 00:01:19.760 --> 00:01:25.120 ago. Mm hmm. Oh no, but you weren't around to see a 23 00:01:25.239 --> 00:01:30.319 Gordon play. No, I was his sister. We're a big part of 24 00:01:30.319 --> 00:01:32.680 that. Okay, all right, good, all right. I started to 25 00:01:32.680 --> 00:01:34.840 think, wait a minute, you were like nothing, not even born. 26 00:01:34.959 --> 00:01:38.400 Okay, all right, said well, welcome, thanks for being here. 27 00:01:38.959 --> 00:01:42.599 Yeah, well, good, good afternoon everybody. It's Thursday. We like 28 00:01:42.680 --> 00:01:47.599 you guys to call five two oh four one, six seventy four forty number. 29 00:01:47.799 --> 00:01:52.200 Yes, you got it this time us. How long have we had 30 00:01:52.239 --> 00:01:57.480 that number? Years? Yes? Uh? Okay, And lot's going on 31 00:01:57.959 --> 00:02:01.040 around around the n of NBA, NBA everywhere, even locally the aerone. 32 00:02:01.079 --> 00:02:04.640 We got a football commit We'll get that for football. We'll get that for 33 00:02:04.680 --> 00:02:08.280 breaking breaking news. Okay. And today's show in Balls in Bolls we got 34 00:02:09.280 --> 00:02:15.080 at three fifteen, we got jameson Ken don't call me Jason Hackamy, the 35 00:02:15.159 --> 00:02:19.199 head head baseball roach Arizona. For those of you who follow our social media. 36 00:02:19.639 --> 00:02:22.599 Steve told me wrong. Is what is the story that I'm going with? 37 00:02:22.879 --> 00:02:25.639 And I thought Jason Hackamy was coming on? Who's an assistant coach and 38 00:02:25.680 --> 00:02:30.719 it's Ken Hackem's brother. But Ken Hackemy, the head coach, is coming 39 00:02:30.759 --> 00:02:35.159 on. Pima had a really nice run of a really nice winning streak mid 40 00:02:35.319 --> 00:02:38.039 year. They're moving, you know, kind of cruising through the seasons. 41 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:43.280 We're gonna get an update from Ken on on Pima's baseball. Very few games 42 00:02:43.360 --> 00:02:46.520 left right, who were almost done with the season there, Uh, talk 43 00:02:46.599 --> 00:02:50.039 to him. And then at four fifteen, at four fifteen, Um, 44 00:02:50.879 --> 00:02:54.479 I forgot what who did I get? You got? You got a tennis 45 00:02:54.520 --> 00:03:00.599 tennis? Oh Clancy, she said, memories are bad. Clancy Shields and 46 00:03:00.639 --> 00:03:05.479 men's tennis coasted coach at Arizona. They're closing out their season with them with 47 00:03:05.560 --> 00:03:08.680 a match against a su this weekend. Um, but they're I think they're 48 00:03:08.680 --> 00:03:13.800 in second place in the Pac twelve right now. They're defending champs, so 49 00:03:14.039 --> 00:03:15.680 a lot at stake for those guys. We want to talk to Clancy Shields 50 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:21.159 ahead of their match against against a SU. But you know, Clancy's obviously 51 00:03:21.199 --> 00:03:23.120 built this into a program that is, uh, you know, one of 52 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:25.759 the top programs, not only in the PAC twelve but in the country. 53 00:03:25.759 --> 00:03:29.840 Because if you're the best programs in the PAC twelve in tennis, you're one 54 00:03:29.840 --> 00:03:32.199 of the best programs in the country. Yeah, we found that out last 55 00:03:32.240 --> 00:03:36.599 year. But then you get into the tournament you have to continue that that 56 00:03:36.759 --> 00:03:38.960 success r and they didn't do that. Steve's gonna be very grumpy and talk 57 00:03:39.000 --> 00:03:42.759 about the fact that they lost in the first round. We'll talk of the 58 00:03:43.039 --> 00:03:46.719 of the of the national of the NCAA tournament. I'll think about how I 59 00:03:46.800 --> 00:03:49.439 asked question. Be nice, man, We don't want to hang up. 60 00:03:49.439 --> 00:03:53.479 There might be one of the last questions. We don't want to hang up 61 00:03:53.520 --> 00:03:58.319 on us. But they're again, they're they're they're they're having another great year 62 00:03:58.759 --> 00:04:01.039 and uh looking for or to talking to him. They are nineteen and five. 63 00:04:01.439 --> 00:04:04.360 Yeah, they're five and two in the conference. Um, and they 64 00:04:04.439 --> 00:04:11.199 they've got uh, they've got uh a Sue coming up. A sus not 65 00:04:11.319 --> 00:04:15.080 ranked, so they should smack them around the two tents The two teams they've 66 00:04:15.159 --> 00:04:19.759 lost too in the PAC twelve are number twenty four Stanford and number twenty seven 67 00:04:19.920 --> 00:04:25.319 Utah. Both of those were four three losses. They beat USC and UCLA 68 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:29.120 on the same weekend a few weekends ago, which was a big deal. 69 00:04:29.240 --> 00:04:31.560 Uscas number nine in the country. So, um, they're really good and 70 00:04:31.600 --> 00:04:34.399 so we'll talk to Clancy and we always have fun with him. He loves 71 00:04:34.480 --> 00:04:38.480 coming on the show. Yeah, Okay, there's a lot of things going 72 00:04:38.480 --> 00:04:42.319 on. We can get a caller from one of our callers from last week 73 00:04:42.800 --> 00:04:47.519 about Nazi's event on Sunday. I think it's Sunday, right, is it 74 00:04:47.680 --> 00:04:51.920 the T Mobile team Michael. Michael's gonna call us again just to remind people. 75 00:04:51.920 --> 00:04:55.319 Oh, that's right, that's right. We have bad joinning from him 76 00:04:55.360 --> 00:04:59.000 too. Well, that's the big d nil stuff going on, and whatever 77 00:04:59.040 --> 00:05:01.120 you guys want to talk about. Uh, you have some breaking news. 78 00:05:01.160 --> 00:05:04.519 We might step into your breaking news. Let's do that because we've had you 79 00:05:04.600 --> 00:05:11.000 know, we keep having this conversation about look, you look really good until 80 00:05:11.079 --> 00:05:14.480 you don't. In the NBA, right, the Suns are gonna be really 81 00:05:14.560 --> 00:05:17.879 good until they're not. If Kevin Durant goes out with an injury, and 82 00:05:18.800 --> 00:05:24.920 um, you know he's uh, he's there. People say that as long 83 00:05:25.040 --> 00:05:28.839 as he's there, they have a shot or our favored to win the Western 84 00:05:28.920 --> 00:05:31.680 Division. You know they got The Sun's got beat by the Clippers in the 85 00:05:31.839 --> 00:05:35.120 In the opening game of the series in Phoenix, people are gonnah, no, 86 00:05:35.319 --> 00:05:39.160 watch out. You know the Clippers are really good. The Suns are 87 00:05:39.160 --> 00:05:41.879 gonna be in trouble. Well, now we find out Kawhi Leonard's out. 88 00:05:42.160 --> 00:05:45.680 He's out for the next game. The Sun's guide the series and now they're 89 00:05:45.680 --> 00:05:49.079 going to San Diego or to la And now Kawhi Leonards out his knee. 90 00:05:49.680 --> 00:05:53.360 Ye, he's got a sprain jee how is he? Is it not to 91 00:05:53.480 --> 00:05:57.199 it's not to um loading management right now because he needs everything. It's a 92 00:05:57.319 --> 00:06:00.040 it's a sprain knee. They say it's the same same need that he that 93 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:04.560 he had surgery on a while back. But they say it's not. I 94 00:06:04.600 --> 00:06:08.160 don't know if it's not the same part of the knee, but they say 95 00:06:08.199 --> 00:06:12.800 it's not related to the surgery. Yeah, but nonetheless, Kawhi Lander's that 96 00:06:12.879 --> 00:06:15.759 guy. It's it's let me ask you this question, okay, And you 97 00:06:15.839 --> 00:06:19.759 might want to champion. Did you play ball anywhere? We'll get you look 98 00:06:19.800 --> 00:06:25.079 like the same brave um. So so we'll talk about Kawhi and we'll talk 99 00:06:25.120 --> 00:06:30.279 about um Um. Golden State guy, God choose Draymond Green. Draymond Green. 100 00:06:30.360 --> 00:06:33.399 Okay, so you're you're a teammate of them? Are you Are you 101 00:06:33.519 --> 00:06:40.199 poed because this Golden State Dreymond? Just control yourself? Are you pissed because 102 00:06:40.199 --> 00:06:42.920 of that? Or you say, okay, we can play without him. 103 00:06:43.079 --> 00:06:46.279 I'm mad. I'm mad at Draymond Drew a teammate. If I'm a team 104 00:06:46.439 --> 00:06:48.519 I'm mad at him. I'm not mad at Kawhi. But I'm frustrated with 105 00:06:48.639 --> 00:06:53.319 Kawa that he can't stay healthy, you know, and maybe it's no fault 106 00:06:53.360 --> 00:06:57.000 of his own, the entrym you know, it's probably real. I'm sure 107 00:06:57.040 --> 00:07:00.240 he wants to play if he can play, but he just is out lot. 108 00:07:00.519 --> 00:07:03.120 This is I'm frustrated with Kawahi. I'm I'm I'm pissed at Draymond. 109 00:07:03.160 --> 00:07:06.959 And this is a time when you can't afford to have any of this because 110 00:07:08.680 --> 00:07:11.439 you better go home. You gotta play, Yeah, you gotta play, 111 00:07:11.519 --> 00:07:14.240 And if you're not playing, you're not helping, right, I think. 112 00:07:14.279 --> 00:07:16.399 Wow. Some people might argue that Draymond being out here helps them, Well, 113 00:07:16.480 --> 00:07:18.560 no, I do. And there's some people who believe in Michael. 114 00:07:18.639 --> 00:07:21.480 Michaels says he's gonna call me out if he does call he's gonna call me 115 00:07:21.480 --> 00:07:24.839 out on that. I said, okay, that's cool, but I I 116 00:07:24.879 --> 00:07:28.759 would rather he's a pain. He's a pain. Sometimes he's not a great 117 00:07:28.759 --> 00:07:31.360 shooter. He's a defender, but still, come on, you know, 118 00:07:31.560 --> 00:07:35.160 you look, you need it, especially at a talent like kids. You're 119 00:07:35.199 --> 00:07:38.399 so much better when he's playing. I mean, he put up thirty points 120 00:07:38.399 --> 00:07:40.680 in each of the first two games. All of a sudden, you don't 121 00:07:40.759 --> 00:07:43.199 have that. Yeah, I think with them though, they could fit in 122 00:07:43.560 --> 00:07:49.680 with other guys. Uh grunge job what's his name's not playing? Umah, 123 00:07:49.720 --> 00:07:53.079 he hasn't played forever. He's getting paid a lot of money now to play. 124 00:07:53.199 --> 00:07:55.639 But you know, but in the instance of a guy like Kawhi Leonard, 125 00:07:55.639 --> 00:07:57.519 you gotta, you know, you gotta have that guy in the court. 126 00:07:57.800 --> 00:08:01.079 They're already short. He's crucial today, he's critical to them, And 127 00:08:01.519 --> 00:08:05.639 well what about last night Moretta didn't play. You think that, Okay, 128 00:08:05.720 --> 00:08:09.600 Lakers are gonna go too and all with the best players and they got crushed. 129 00:08:09.839 --> 00:08:11.800 Would you see did you see the same thing with the with the box 130 00:08:13.240 --> 00:08:16.959 right right right? But Yanna sits out. But you know, Charles Barkins 131 00:08:16.959 --> 00:08:20.560 said a real interesting thing about that. He said, because because um um 132 00:08:22.519 --> 00:08:26.040 uh, where are they playing the Raptors? Said, they playing the round. 133 00:08:28.199 --> 00:08:31.720 They're playing the Raptors the Heat. That's okay, Tyler, yeah, 134 00:08:31.720 --> 00:08:35.159 exactly, Tyler Hero is out. Yeah, okay, well he's out for 135 00:08:35.240 --> 00:08:37.759 good. Uh. Charles Barkins said a really interesting thing, and he kind 136 00:08:37.799 --> 00:08:45.399 of got shock and and and uhn. Kenny Smith just kind of weren't sure 137 00:08:45.440 --> 00:08:50.399 what he was saying. And what he said was Tyler Hero being out for 138 00:08:50.519 --> 00:08:56.120 Miami is more important than Yanni's being out or so, and he said, 139 00:08:56.240 --> 00:08:58.159 and they they were like, what are you talking about. Yannis is like 140 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:01.720 the best player in the league, he said, But he said, the 141 00:09:01.960 --> 00:09:07.279 Bucks missing Jannis can still beat the Heat. Okay, they're still good enough 142 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:13.480 to beat the Heat and probably will beat the people. But Tyler Hero being 143 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:18.480 out or the Heat, they can't beat the Bucks. It's a bigger deal 144 00:09:18.679 --> 00:09:22.919 that Tyler Hero is out and that if he were playing they would have a 145 00:09:24.039 --> 00:09:26.600 chance of beating the Bucks if the Bucks do not have because of what just 146 00:09:26.679 --> 00:09:30.799 because of how much he means to the team, because well, okay, 147 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:33.840 but you know that that he's more important to the Heat than Janni says to 148 00:09:33.960 --> 00:09:37.080 the Buck. So did they actually agree with him or did they say they 149 00:09:37.159 --> 00:09:41.440 never they're just kind of like, okay, Charles whatever, But you know 150 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:46.000 Charles is rarely right. Well, but he made a good point though. 151 00:09:46.759 --> 00:09:50.879 You know, a really good team can lose a player and survive, right, 152 00:09:50.919 --> 00:09:54.519 can lose their best player and survive, or another team can lose their 153 00:09:54.559 --> 00:09:56.440 best player and won't survive. And that's like, it's essentially what he was 154 00:09:56.480 --> 00:10:00.240 saying. Well, there's no question that will walk. You will need him 155 00:10:00.240 --> 00:10:03.399 back because it gets differ if they can do. You gotta have the body, 156 00:10:03.480 --> 00:10:05.720 you gotta have the people. Right. It's hard, right, right, 157 00:10:05.000 --> 00:10:09.200 And the Sons are the Sons one of a couple of nights ago, 158 00:10:09.320 --> 00:10:11.519 the Night to do right, a couple of nights ago. They play at 159 00:10:11.600 --> 00:10:15.480 night. They play a night, the Warriors, the Clippers. I think 160 00:10:15.919 --> 00:10:20.279 I don't know, they both play both playing Warriors played at night for sure. 161 00:10:20.440 --> 00:10:22.200 Once again, that's why you're here. The Warriors are are in tonight 162 00:10:22.200 --> 00:10:26.399 because I have some some three team party on that one. Boy, those 163 00:10:26.440 --> 00:10:28.399 games are going on about the same time. But Warriors. The Warriors are 164 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:31.759 at seven and the Lakers are set. I mean, the Suns are at 165 00:10:31.759 --> 00:10:35.000 seven seven okay, and then you got the kind of a nothing series. 166 00:10:35.159 --> 00:10:39.840 Uh the seventy six ers against the Nets? Right is the first games two 167 00:10:39.120 --> 00:10:41.320 already? Yeah? Yeah, no, it's tough. I mean, how 168 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:43.440 do you how do you react to the guys being out when you need them 169 00:10:43.480 --> 00:10:48.440 so desperately? Yeah, So, anyway, so you know, yeah, 170 00:10:48.600 --> 00:10:50.840 the Clippers are at home, but I'm sure I haven't looked her up. 171 00:10:50.879 --> 00:10:54.679 I'm sure they're not favored, you know, with uh with with yeah. 172 00:10:54.799 --> 00:10:58.399 Um. So anyways, that was the conversation. But you know, that's 173 00:10:58.480 --> 00:11:03.320 kind of sa But I guess what I'm talking about is guys are important, 174 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:07.120 and some guys are more important to teams than other guys. And in this 175 00:11:07.240 --> 00:11:09.720 particular case, you lose a guy like Hawaii all of a sudden, you're 176 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:13.559 you're kind of a shell of what you what you should be. Uh. 177 00:11:13.679 --> 00:11:18.480 And I was right. The Sons are seven and a half point favorites tonight. 178 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:22.799 Yeah, I'm sure that was maybe again three and a half most when 179 00:11:22.879 --> 00:11:24.639 he was still Warriors, or six and a half point favorites against the Kings. 180 00:11:26.320 --> 00:11:30.240 Uh, the Nets are giving are getting four and a half at home 181 00:11:30.639 --> 00:11:33.279 against the seventy six ers. I think there's a little, a little, 182 00:11:33.399 --> 00:11:37.559 uh a little the three team parlaygoing here. Good good luck. I hit 183 00:11:37.639 --> 00:11:41.159 one last night. I hit a two teamer last night. Hucky. Yeah, 184 00:11:41.159 --> 00:11:46.720 I have chocky I took, but I did the points I got I 185 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:50.600 had. I had the uh, the Nuggets and the and the Bucks was 186 00:11:50.679 --> 00:11:52.159 sweating out the Nuggets. Did you see that? Yeah, but that's the 187 00:11:52.240 --> 00:11:54.840 fourth quarter. Um. I really like the way the Nuggets are playing. 188 00:11:54.879 --> 00:11:56.840 Nothing it means anything, you know. But the line was eight and they 189 00:11:56.879 --> 00:12:01.320 won by nine. They were up twenty. Yeah. Then and then I 190 00:12:01.960 --> 00:12:03.879 had dinner. I come back to the game and they're and and the uh 191 00:12:05.919 --> 00:12:09.000 uh they were losing, right, What the hell is going? Yeah? 192 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:11.799 I know, that's so it is. That's what it is. Okay, 193 00:12:13.320 --> 00:12:15.840 don't gamble everybody, no, no, I know, or if you do, 194 00:12:15.960 --> 00:12:20.240 go do bet dollars drift Kings. Bet of dollars that you can come 195 00:12:20.279 --> 00:12:24.039 on the radio and say you did it. Yeah, Yeah, a lot 196 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:26.320 of stuff. I'm looking on the wire. There's a lot of bricky news 197 00:12:26.399 --> 00:12:31.600 for you at four o'clock because Live Live, really really I did see what's 198 00:12:31.600 --> 00:12:35.720 going on with Live that what's his name Norman is thinking about definitely bringing women. 199 00:12:37.639 --> 00:12:39.919 Oh did have a little women's little women's live tour. That'd be interesting. 200 00:12:41.080 --> 00:12:48.279 Wow. Okay, now, luck if they're gonna offer huge amounts of 201 00:12:48.360 --> 00:12:52.799 money like that, you know, I can see women going to do that 202 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:56.360 because they don't they don't make the money that the men do. I don't 203 00:12:56.399 --> 00:12:58.639 even know. I don't even know names. I don't even know names. 204 00:12:58.799 --> 00:13:01.559 You follow it, I don't, I do I know some. Um. 205 00:13:01.159 --> 00:13:09.759 The part of it is that a good chunk of the top women's players are 206 00:13:09.960 --> 00:13:13.840 international players, in particular, you know, Asian players. They're just a 207 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:16.960 ton of them. But there's still some, you know, still some locals 208 00:13:16.080 --> 00:13:20.480 like uh, the Court of Sisters and you know there's a few of those. 209 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:24.799 But they play great golf. You know, they're really good. So 210 00:13:24.279 --> 00:13:26.559 if they do, if if the women do a live tour, that'll be 211 00:13:26.559 --> 00:13:31.159 interesting to see how that develops. And I, you know, you there's 212 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:39.360 probably more dissatisfaction with the LPGA Tour. Then there was men's dissatisfaction with the 213 00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:43.759 PGA Tour, a lot having to do with money. They can't make the 214 00:13:43.840 --> 00:13:46.440 money there, you know, and only the really top golfers, you know, 215 00:13:46.600 --> 00:13:50.720 make a decent amount of you know, through endorsements and stuff like that. 216 00:13:50.799 --> 00:13:54.159 There are a lot fewer of them that are making that level of money 217 00:13:54.480 --> 00:13:58.000 than there were in than there are in the PGA Tour. So that will 218 00:13:58.039 --> 00:14:00.320 be interesting to see. I hadn't seen that one, So we'll time about 219 00:14:00.320 --> 00:14:05.559 that maybe a little bit more, all right. So we got uh Ken 220 00:14:05.679 --> 00:14:09.039 hawkmy coming here. We're gonna talk some Peama baseball. We'll we'll see what 221 00:14:09.120 --> 00:14:11.159 he's got to say about his team and how they're gonna wrap up the season 222 00:14:11.200 --> 00:14:16.080 and what they're gonna what they're gonna do, and uh we'll pick his brain 223 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:20.159 on what he expects from those guys in the in the postseason because they, 224 00:14:20.759 --> 00:14:22.759 um, you know, they got to the postseason last year, but I 225 00:14:22.840 --> 00:14:26.759 think it ended a little early for the right. All right, So we 226 00:14:26.879 --> 00:14:30.200 will be right back. We'll take we'll have Ken Hawk me on the show 227 00:14:30.559 --> 00:14:33.000 and then we'll take your calls after that. Five twos, there a four 228 00:14:33.000 --> 00:14:46.639 one six seventy four four. 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How are y'all good 294 00:19:45.400 --> 00:19:48.079 to find? This is your nitty gritty time in it? It is? 295 00:19:48.400 --> 00:19:52.079 It is. We got six games to play, so yeah, it's down 296 00:19:52.160 --> 00:19:56.200 to the nitty gritty. What do you tell them now? And what do 297 00:19:56.240 --> 00:20:00.400 you guys stand? You're the top two right league? We are in the 298 00:20:00.480 --> 00:20:04.039 top two right now. We're a game. We're a game in front of 299 00:20:04.160 --> 00:20:10.519 South Mountain and a couple of games in front of Arizona Western. So we 300 00:20:10.640 --> 00:20:12.440 just got to finish strong and finish in the top four and we'll be in 301 00:20:12.440 --> 00:20:17.319 the playoffs. All right. So, um, you went through that streak 302 00:20:17.400 --> 00:20:19.319 in the middle of the year, just want a whole bunch of games in 303 00:20:19.400 --> 00:20:23.160 a row. Um, you know, does that does that kind of thing, 304 00:20:25.200 --> 00:20:27.200 I like to use this word momentum last the rest of the year. 305 00:20:27.880 --> 00:20:32.160 How does that? How do you see that in terms of going on on 306 00:20:32.240 --> 00:20:37.160 a streak like that? Well, I mean it's it's just about collecting wins, 307 00:20:37.519 --> 00:20:38.519 you know, over the course of the year. I mean, it's 308 00:20:38.559 --> 00:20:44.799 a long conference season. We play thirty eight conference games. So every win 309 00:20:44.960 --> 00:20:48.079 that you get, whether it's in the beginning of the of the year, 310 00:20:48.240 --> 00:20:49.319 the middle of the year, the end of the year, they all count 311 00:20:49.359 --> 00:20:52.400 the same. So we we went on, we went on a run, 312 00:20:52.680 --> 00:20:56.759 and we won a lot of games, which put us in a position right 313 00:20:56.839 --> 00:21:02.000 now to um, you know, have a little bit of uh, you 314 00:21:02.079 --> 00:21:03.880 know, a little bit of a lead over some teams. So now we 315 00:21:03.960 --> 00:21:07.759 just got to finish strong and well we'll be right where we want to be. 316 00:21:07.319 --> 00:21:11.680 Do you still have that same type of like to go to Jay's point 317 00:21:11.960 --> 00:21:15.279 that mentality or whatever, because as you close out, you try to hope 318 00:21:15.279 --> 00:21:18.200 to find it again. Right, Yeah, I mean, our guys are 319 00:21:18.240 --> 00:21:21.559 playing well right now. I mean, I'm proud of the way they've they've 320 00:21:21.640 --> 00:21:26.240 played. It's a long season. Uh we won thirty eight games already. 321 00:21:26.480 --> 00:21:30.400 Last year we won thirty eight uh total, and that was the most wins 322 00:21:30.440 --> 00:21:33.759 and you know, twenty years. So the guys are doing a good job 323 00:21:33.839 --> 00:21:37.359 and and and I think they're they're they're they're peaking at the right time. 324 00:21:37.440 --> 00:21:41.799 So it's it's fun to watch. So when you've got a team that's doing 325 00:21:41.880 --> 00:21:44.240 that well, there have to be a lot of things that you guys are 326 00:21:44.279 --> 00:21:45.680 doing well. But what are some of the things that stick out? I 327 00:21:45.720 --> 00:21:48.880 mean, is it pitching, is it heating the defense? A little bit 328 00:21:48.960 --> 00:21:52.200 of everything? What's uh? You know what? What? You know what? 329 00:21:52.400 --> 00:21:53.880 What do you hang your hat on? Right now? Right now? 330 00:21:55.039 --> 00:21:59.400 We're we're we're pretty good on the mound. Um, we have four solid 331 00:21:59.480 --> 00:22:02.920 starters, you know, two that are two that are committed to the U 332 00:22:03.000 --> 00:22:06.880 of A, one committed to as U and one that's going to get drafted. 333 00:22:07.000 --> 00:22:12.039 Probably pretty good. So we've played fifty games, we've started a left 334 00:22:12.039 --> 00:22:15.839 handed pitcher in all fifty games, which is kind of unheard of. But 335 00:22:18.160 --> 00:22:22.039 our our pitching staff has really carried us and kept us in games. And 336 00:22:22.759 --> 00:22:26.079 from the offensive side, you know, we we've done a good job from 337 00:22:26.119 --> 00:22:32.400 one through nine guys just getting key hits and moving runners and scoring guys when 338 00:22:32.480 --> 00:22:37.160 when we have opportunities. So we've been able to play good baseball. I'm 339 00:22:37.160 --> 00:22:40.160 just gonna say, isn't that what baseball is about? Get on moving around, 340 00:22:40.240 --> 00:22:42.720 score some runs. Who are the local kids that have kind of shined. 341 00:22:45.480 --> 00:22:49.680 I mean Andrew Stooki, who went to CDO, has had a great 342 00:22:49.799 --> 00:22:55.000 year. I mean I would say he's going to be up for Conference Player 343 00:22:55.000 --> 00:22:57.440 of the Year. He's really done a great job. He's caught for us, 344 00:22:57.519 --> 00:23:02.720 he's played left field. Um, he's just really really swung the bat 345 00:23:02.799 --> 00:23:07.240 well. Um. And then you know, our short stop with Wescarcia from 346 00:23:07.279 --> 00:23:10.920 South Point has had a has had a great year. He's done a really 347 00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:15.240 good job defensively, and he has has swung the bat and drove in a 348 00:23:15.319 --> 00:23:18.559 lot of runs from in the nine hole, which is great for us. 349 00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:23.079 Um right in Mandu from Sienaga as our second baseman. He also has had 350 00:23:23.119 --> 00:23:27.319 a great year. Uh really played good defense and hitting in the middle of 351 00:23:27.400 --> 00:23:32.839 the order. And then you know on the mound Matt Corney excuse me, 352 00:23:33.200 --> 00:23:37.759 um, Jaden Swanberg from South Point and al A Castro from Push Ridge. 353 00:23:37.799 --> 00:23:41.799 Those are two of our starters, two local guys. So they they've the 354 00:23:41.960 --> 00:23:45.759 local guys have really you know, obviously helped us win a lot of games 355 00:23:45.400 --> 00:23:49.599 with the with the two game sets that you guys play in your series with 356 00:23:49.880 --> 00:23:55.799 with teams, how many starting pitchers were good reliable starting pitchers you need to 357 00:23:55.880 --> 00:24:00.200 have, Well, we gotta have. We we played four conference game of 358 00:24:00.240 --> 00:24:03.240 weeks, so we got to have four starters. So we we play two 359 00:24:03.799 --> 00:24:07.799 doubleheader on Tuesday and a doubleheader on Saturday, so we have we have four 360 00:24:07.880 --> 00:24:11.839 guys that that will that start for us every week. So you're kind of 361 00:24:12.759 --> 00:24:15.240 I don't want to say you're old like us, because you're not old like 362 00:24:15.400 --> 00:24:18.960 us. They're good for you, you know, good for you. But 363 00:24:18.119 --> 00:24:22.960 are you Everyone uses analytics now, everyone kind of gun to that way? 364 00:24:22.000 --> 00:24:25.599 Do you guys do that? There? You know, the huckeb brothers. 365 00:24:25.680 --> 00:24:27.759 Because I'm old school and I understand the numbers and I like the numbers, 366 00:24:27.880 --> 00:24:33.119 but we're not We're not. I mean, don't get me wrong. There's 367 00:24:33.200 --> 00:24:37.960 some some part of baseball that you know, analytics is important, but we're 368 00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:42.880 a little more old school at this level. We're trying to make good contact, 369 00:24:44.039 --> 00:24:47.359 throw strikes, um, you know, put the ball in play, 370 00:24:47.480 --> 00:24:51.319 steal some bases. Just do you know, a little more old school baseball 371 00:24:51.319 --> 00:24:56.319 and not get caught up in launch angle and shift and you know things like 372 00:24:56.440 --> 00:25:00.359 that. Think well, along those lines, what do you make of the 373 00:25:00.839 --> 00:25:03.279 new rules one? And do you think eventually they're going to trickle down? 374 00:25:06.279 --> 00:25:08.640 I do not think they will trickle down. I think that's going to be 375 00:25:08.759 --> 00:25:14.359 a professional deal. I really don't see it coming coming down, uh to 376 00:25:14.519 --> 00:25:18.160 this level. I mean, I don't know. I part of me likes 377 00:25:18.200 --> 00:25:22.319 it, part of me doesn't. You know. It's just one of those 378 00:25:22.400 --> 00:25:25.440 things where you know, I think teams should be able to do whatever they 379 00:25:25.519 --> 00:25:26.559 want to do. And I think, uh, you know, if you 380 00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:30.400 want to play you know, eight guys on one side of the field, 381 00:25:30.440 --> 00:25:33.279 and you feel like that's the best way, uh you can win a game, 382 00:25:33.359 --> 00:25:37.839 then then do it. And it's the other team's uh challenge to to 383 00:25:38.319 --> 00:25:42.359 to play against that and do things to help your team one and make an 384 00:25:42.400 --> 00:25:48.599 adjustment and so I don't know. So they talked tell us a little bit 385 00:25:48.640 --> 00:25:52.440 about the overall strength of the of the league this year. Um, you 386 00:25:52.559 --> 00:25:56.640 know, you always seem to have teams that are you know, great National 387 00:25:56.759 --> 00:26:00.960 league. Uh, you know Central leagues your your league again, I mean, 388 00:26:00.039 --> 00:26:03.039 just talk to us a little bit about what you face weekend and week 389 00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:07.799 out in this league. We face we face really good teams weekend and week 390 00:26:07.839 --> 00:26:12.200 out. I mean, this league is, from top to bottom, is 391 00:26:12.240 --> 00:26:17.880 the best junior college baseball league in the country. And I would argue that 392 00:26:18.039 --> 00:26:21.319 with anybody in the country, and I think all of the coaches in this 393 00:26:21.480 --> 00:26:25.880 conference feel the same. Um, We're facing guys every weekend on the mound 394 00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:30.680 that are that are big time Division one pitchers. You know, guys that 395 00:26:30.759 --> 00:26:34.079 are going to u of A and Nebraska and ASU and TCU, and I 396 00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:40.279 mean, and it goes from you know, from the best Division one junior 397 00:26:40.359 --> 00:26:45.240 college to the best you know, to the worst Division two junior college. 398 00:26:45.319 --> 00:26:48.319 Every every guy, every team has really good guys on the mound and they're 399 00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:52.680 capable of beating you. So uh, there's just really no no days off. 400 00:26:52.839 --> 00:26:56.240 You know, if you don't show up and you don't play hard and 401 00:26:56.559 --> 00:27:00.039 play well, you're gonna lose. You know. So last year you want 402 00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:03.599 thirty eight, Like you said, you're at thirty eight. Now, how 403 00:27:03.640 --> 00:27:07.440 did last year's nice run and you made the playoffs? That's year right. 404 00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:11.279 We did not make the fun We were finished a couple games out, and 405 00:27:11.480 --> 00:27:15.640 that's that's going back to, you know, this league being so good. 406 00:27:15.759 --> 00:27:18.759 I mean, for us to win thirty eight games and not make the playoff, 407 00:27:18.839 --> 00:27:22.799 that tells you a lot about the strength of our conference. Well, 408 00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:26.319 so let me say, how did that motivate you then to play, you 409 00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:30.240 know, a little bit better and probably win more games this year. You 410 00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:33.480 know, it's just it's all about trying to get better, you know. 411 00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:36.680 I mean every every year, we're just trying to get a little bit better. 412 00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:41.200 And we know going into the season how tough the schedule is going to 413 00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:42.680 be and how good the teams are going to be that we play. So 414 00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:47.279 in order to keep up, we got to do a good job recruiting, 415 00:27:47.359 --> 00:27:51.599 We got to do a good job coaching and developing, and and hopefully we 416 00:27:51.839 --> 00:27:55.680 uh, we do things well enough that'll give us a chance and postseason. 417 00:27:56.119 --> 00:28:00.079 So as you again when you've got young guys and who energetic, probably in 418 00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:03.519 great shape and stuff like that, but still you're fifty games into your season. 419 00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:08.000 You got you got six regular season games left. Talk about just things 420 00:28:08.039 --> 00:28:11.039 that you have to keep an eye on, to make sure one that guys 421 00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:14.359 are healthy, that they're rested, that they're ready to go, you're pitching 422 00:28:14.440 --> 00:28:18.319 staff, that the arms are still strong. Just discuss some of the things 423 00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:21.920 that you have to keep an eye on. All of that. Well, 424 00:28:21.960 --> 00:28:26.759 I think right now, just like today, our practice was short and sweet. 425 00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:30.000 I mean, you you you kind of hit the nail on the head. 426 00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:33.359 I mean, we're we're trying to get some stuff done, but we're 427 00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:36.640 trying to make sure our guys are healthy, they're rested. I mean, 428 00:28:36.720 --> 00:28:40.799 it's a long season, and for us to go out and practice for two 429 00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:42.759 to three hours, we would make no sense. Right now, at this 430 00:28:42.880 --> 00:28:47.720 time of the year, it's more about getting out there, you know, 431 00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:52.039 getting some swings in, taking some groundballs, throwing some bullpins, and getting 432 00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:56.079 out and letting them rest their bodies. Yeah nice, even though you know, 433 00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:59.720 well you have six games, right it's all out or nothing. Yeah, 434 00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:02.920 Yeah, I mean we just we just gotta we we gotta finish strong. 435 00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:04.799 Our guys, you know, our our guys put themselves in a good 436 00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:10.359 position, um to, you know, to to make the playoffs. We 437 00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:11.839 just got to do. We gotta do our part here in the last six 438 00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:15.400 games and win some games and we'll be right where we need to be. 439 00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:18.799 So so if in the six I'm sure you probably already looked at it. 440 00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:22.640 What what do you need to do to stay at number two? If you 441 00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:26.839 can, if you can move to number one, but to stay at two, 442 00:29:26.799 --> 00:29:30.319 well, I think I think we we're gonna have to probably finish at 443 00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:34.640 least five hundred in these last six games, you know, go at least 444 00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:38.400 three and three. I mean, we play South next Tuesday, and and 445 00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:42.400 they're they're right behind us. Um so that'll be a big, big matchup. 446 00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:47.039 And you know, I mean, every every every team that we play 447 00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:48.720 is going to be a big matchup. But you know the thing about it 448 00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:53.440 is everybody has to play everybody. So I mean we you know, if 449 00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:56.079 we if we lose a game, you know, there's gonna be some other 450 00:29:56.160 --> 00:30:00.640 people that are playing each other and and somebody's can have to win, and 451 00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:03.200 somebody's gonna have to lose. So, um, you know we're we're we're 452 00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:06.680 in a good we're in good shape right now. We just we just got 453 00:30:06.799 --> 00:30:10.519 to play play our our brand of baseball the last six games and we'll be 454 00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:14.359 we'll be fine. So uh, you're talking a little bit more about your 455 00:30:14.400 --> 00:30:17.799 pitching staff. So you know who's coming up You've got you know, you've 456 00:30:17.799 --> 00:30:22.680 got a doubleheader this week coming up against against Western. You know who who 457 00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:25.680 do we expect to see? You guys are going to Yuma, so um, 458 00:30:25.720 --> 00:30:27.559 who do you who do you expect to see? And then South Mountain 459 00:30:27.640 --> 00:30:33.480 your last home games here next Tuesday? Who's on the mound? What what 460 00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:37.519 do you expect from these guys? So for us on Saturday, uh, 461 00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:41.200 Anthony im Hoff will pitch the first game and l A. Castro will pitch 462 00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:47.039 the second game. And then on Tuesday when we play South Mountain, it'll 463 00:30:47.079 --> 00:30:51.559 be um Jaden Swanberg hit pitch in the first game and Matt Cornelius pitch in 464 00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:55.720 the second game. So um, that's all lined up, and that's been 465 00:30:56.039 --> 00:31:00.200 you know that we've kind of had that planned and processed and the whole year. 466 00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:06.799 So guys know when they're gonna pitch and and we plan bullpens around it 467 00:31:06.880 --> 00:31:08.240 and get them ready to go. You know, we were talking about you 468 00:31:08.319 --> 00:31:11.319 know, analytics all that, guys, Is it based on is your the 469 00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:14.759 way you set up? Is it based on matchups? Where are these guys? 470 00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:18.599 They're in a rotation. It's their turn and they pitch. Yeah, 471 00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:21.920 they're in a rotation. It's their turn and they pitch. So it doesn't 472 00:31:21.960 --> 00:31:25.799 matter who we're playing. We have guys that pitch on Tuesdays, and we 473 00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:29.359 have guys that pitch on Saturdays. And it's the same guys every week unless 474 00:31:29.880 --> 00:31:33.400 for some reason it's there's an injury or somebody sick or something like that. 475 00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:38.519 But um, the same guys have pitched for us on Tuesdays and Saturdays all 476 00:31:38.599 --> 00:31:44.039 year long. It's funny. I played ball baseball halfway decent, But it's 477 00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:47.559 baseball, so routine, right, everybody has a routine. If you're a 478 00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:49.960 Tuesday guy, you're a Tuesday guy. You play the way the way you've 479 00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:52.920 grown up playing. It's kind of it's just the way it is, and 480 00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:55.720 you played it all your life, right Coach? Oh yeah, yeah, 481 00:31:56.000 --> 00:31:59.160 definitely. I mean it is a routine, and uh, you know, 482 00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:02.799 every week is planned out, Uh as far as our pitchers go, and 483 00:32:02.920 --> 00:32:06.799 based on you know, when they're going to throw in a game, and 484 00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:09.880 you know, and we have their bullpen scheduled and they throw a certain amount 485 00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:15.319 on this day and that day, and so uh, you know it's they're 486 00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:17.559 all ready to go on their on their start. So I just got a 487 00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:22.519 message from somebody. So your your last games at home? When are they? 488 00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:29.079 Uh? Next Tuesday? Next Tuesday at West Yes, at West Campus. 489 00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:32.599 It'll be our sophomore day. So we'll have a little uh ceremony before 490 00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:38.000 before the game starts, and you know, recognize all of our sophomores and 491 00:32:38.119 --> 00:32:42.000 then we'll get going. So I should know this already. Coach, how 492 00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:45.160 long have you been there? This is my fifth year. Fifth year. 493 00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:47.640 I was gonna ask you if baseball, if the kids have changed, you 494 00:32:47.680 --> 00:32:52.559 know, in a nil has changed the division one game like crazy, But 495 00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:58.400 has it changed at all in your in your divisions? You know what it 496 00:32:58.559 --> 00:33:02.519 has? It hasn't yet. We were just having that conversation with one of 497 00:33:02.599 --> 00:33:07.599 my assistant coaches yesterday, and I think that you know, it's going to 498 00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:13.440 trickle down into into junior college in certain places. I mean there's gonna be 499 00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:16.039 certain schools. They're gonna have big donors and they're gonna have money, and 500 00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:20.359 they're gonna be able to pay some kids to come and play for him. 501 00:33:20.440 --> 00:33:23.079 So uh, as of right now, I don't think that's a that's an 502 00:33:23.160 --> 00:33:29.000 issue in our league and our conference. I think everybody is just playing straight 503 00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:32.519 up scholarship baseball, recruiting kids like it like it always has been. Now 504 00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:37.160 we've you know, we talked about coaches that have decided they don't like coaching 505 00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:42.839 now because of how things have changed, how the athletes have changed. Um, 506 00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:45.759 you know David Ruby, I mean he's very open, you know, 507 00:33:45.880 --> 00:33:50.039 volleyball coaching Arizoni's very open about the fact that I can't coach these kids anymore. 508 00:33:50.079 --> 00:33:52.640 I can't relate to him, I can't get to him. Something along 509 00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:55.039 those lines. But that's basically what it was in terms of the kinds of 510 00:33:55.119 --> 00:33:59.839 kids you're getting. Where the way kids are on the team and around you 511 00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:02.440 and how they handle their teammate is that kind of the same. Where do 512 00:34:02.519 --> 00:34:07.039 you see that changing or evolving as well? You know, I don't think 513 00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:12.599 it's changed much for us. I mean it could, you know, it 514 00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:15.039 might have a little bit but you know, as a coach, you have 515 00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:20.239 to you got to change yourself a little bit, you know. I mean, 516 00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:23.079 it's just the way culture is. And I mean I'm a I'm a 517 00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:29.519 little old school and guys that play for me understand that there's expectations that, 518 00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:35.679 um, guys do things a certain way. And um, sometimes it's difficult 519 00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:37.840 for certain people, you know, to play for me because they like to 520 00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:42.880 do things a little different and I don't. I don't allow it, so 521 00:34:43.639 --> 00:34:45.719 um. But at the same time, and you know, I've had to 522 00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:51.119 change the way I've coached a little bit just because kids are a little bit 523 00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:53.880 different. And if if you want to if you want to be good and 524 00:34:54.280 --> 00:34:58.280 you want to be able to relate to kids, sometimes you've got to make 525 00:34:58.760 --> 00:35:01.719 some changes as well. Yeah, yeah, okay, coach, appreciate your 526 00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:06.559 time. Good look this next six games, all right, I appreciate thanks 527 00:35:06.599 --> 00:35:09.119 for having me. Yeah, coach Ken hawking me pea another good job. 528 00:35:09.159 --> 00:35:12.679 Another good year. Well you know again, and think about it. They 529 00:35:12.719 --> 00:35:15.280 won all those games last year and I just didn't make you know, they 530 00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:17.199 finished fifth in the league. But they're in second place now, so they 531 00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:20.679 got a chance. And as I said, if they can split these six. 532 00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:22.679 It looks like looking at the standards, look at what they got two 533 00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:29.119 series coming up twelve. Yeah, so that's that's the thirty twelve South Mountains 534 00:35:29.199 --> 00:35:31.119 right behind him, they're also thirty and twelve and they're a game behind. 535 00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:35.599 So they have South Mountain two games next week and Tucsons, so that's gonna 536 00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:37.840 be important. And they've got Arizona Western who's in fourth place. So the 537 00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:43.199 next four games or against crucial against you know, the the third and fourth 538 00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:45.880 place teams in the league. Those ones are hard. They need to probably 539 00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:49.679 need to split both of those series. But what are you saying, yeah 540 00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:52.360 to kind of assure themselves. Okay, let's take off and come back. 541 00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:54.880 All right, let's take our break. 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It's Steve Rivera and Jaken supp 596 00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:05.800 This isn't I on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen. They welcome back to 597 00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:07.440 I on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen. Cookie, I'm ski Remember 598 00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:12.199 he's Jacon's us. Got my boys sit here, sitting in and now we 599 00:40:12.320 --> 00:40:15.159 get some calls. Maybeitely got about eleven minutes, and you want to call 600 00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:17.360 and then you heard so I want to talk about anything? You want to 601 00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:21.320 talk about the NBA as they play tonight, The Warriors gonna pull it off 602 00:40:21.360 --> 00:40:25.679 tonight without Draymond. I think, yes, you think so did didn't have 603 00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:34.280 to. But I saw something on the internet saying that the Golden State's pissed 604 00:40:34.280 --> 00:40:37.239 because he he got suspended. Right, They're right, They're gonna show him 605 00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:40.159 that they could play without him, right, And and they're just upset how 606 00:40:40.199 --> 00:40:45.719 it was handled pretty much. Yeah, you know again how I was handled 607 00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:50.480 by by the end of the NBA because they suspended him and they thought it 608 00:40:50.679 --> 00:40:55.360 wasn't that big of a deal because he got ejected part of a game for 609 00:40:55.440 --> 00:40:59.639 anyways, right correct, right, and and that and that someone us was 610 00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:00.960 kind of part of it too. Yeah, you know, because he kind 611 00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:05.039 of initiated it. I don't know, if you initiate it wasn't that bad 612 00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:07.800 outside of the SAMP I mean, I'm not even sure that he should have 613 00:41:07.800 --> 00:41:09.800 gotten kicked out of the game. Yeah, you know, there's a lot 614 00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:14.599 of people who say he should have. He's Raymond Green, He's always doing 615 00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:17.519 this. You know, you gotta you gotta do something. But when I 616 00:41:17.679 --> 00:41:22.039 first saw it the first I just thought, full speed, I thought, 617 00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:23.519 what was the big deal? You see the slow most you think, okay, 618 00:41:23.559 --> 00:41:27.119 there's more to it, and you know that, they go and review 619 00:41:27.159 --> 00:41:29.800 it like that, look at it all the angles and stuff like that. 620 00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:32.480 Then they decided it was like the Christian Leader thing that was purposely you know, 621 00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:37.760 delivered, And I don't know, I'm not sure again again, I 622 00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:39.920 think I think we've said if it wasn't Raymond Green. He probably doesn't get 623 00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:43.960 Let's also remember that Golden State's pretty good at home, they're not very good 624 00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:47.039 on the road year, so that was not surprised going zero on two. 625 00:41:47.119 --> 00:41:51.360 But now they have to win two at home just to save a save face 626 00:41:51.400 --> 00:41:53.599 because you gotta go to seven. Probably, Yeah, so I don't know. 627 00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:58.599 Yeah, I mean, I'm there's still a lot of people who believe 628 00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:02.800 that that the the Warriors will win this series. Yeah, I'm one of 629 00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:06.920 them. I'm well, I'm not firm on it, but I think that 630 00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:10.559 they still can send the Sacramentos. I think the perception of Sacramento has been 631 00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:14.320 a long time Sacramento. They haven't been this good since Baby was on the 632 00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:17.320 team in him and Chris Member and now here they are. Um, we'll 633 00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:21.400 see, we'll see. I do like Denver, they played really well. 634 00:42:21.519 --> 00:42:25.039 Aaron Gordon's playing really well, um doing what he does well. And I'm 635 00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:29.639 just looking at the at the odds to win and win the championship. The 636 00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:34.639 Warriors are still ahead of the King fourth. The Warriors, Yeah, they 637 00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:38.400 are fifth, seventh, seventh, What sort of the number you've got the 638 00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:44.079 Celtics box who are both under three hundred, The Sons, the Sixers, 639 00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:47.800 the Nuggets. They got the Lakers at plus fifteen hundred and the Warriors at 640 00:42:47.840 --> 00:42:52.559 plus sixteen hundred. Yeah, what are the Nuggets? The Nuggets are eight 641 00:42:52.679 --> 00:42:59.400 fifty. I think you got the middle eleven a small twenty twenty fels whatever. 642 00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:01.719 But I like the numbers. No one's talking about him, so that's 643 00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:06.880 cool. Yeah, you know, I watched pretty much all of the Nuggets 644 00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:12.960 game last night. I know Luca don is different. He's good, really 645 00:43:13.039 --> 00:43:15.159 good. It kind of looks like a fat guy running around that there, 646 00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:22.480 doesn't he guy he's seven seven whatever is he just does so well? Yeah, 647 00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:23.840 but but you're right, he you know, he moves around, he 648 00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:29.480 passes. I'm not saying he's not a good player. I'm just saying you 649 00:43:29.639 --> 00:43:34.599 look at him and you're surprised at how good he is. Stout. Yeah, 650 00:43:34.840 --> 00:43:37.519 let me explain this to Sin because you just new to the program. 651 00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:43.119 Jay likes guys who look good in uniform. Out of him coming off a 652 00:43:43.199 --> 00:43:45.639 bus and said, God, that guy can play. Should we run it 653 00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:50.039 by it? Can we run the argument with him? Okay? When you 654 00:43:50.119 --> 00:43:52.760 put on your baseball, wait, make it good though. When you put 655 00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:55.440 on your baseball when you put on your baseball uniform? Did it have to 656 00:43:55.519 --> 00:44:00.840 be perfect for me? The pants for the must important part, if hands 657 00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:02.079 gotta fit right for me? Okay? But okay, the rest of it. 658 00:44:02.559 --> 00:44:06.440 He's saying that if you dress well, you play well. I'm saying, 659 00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:07.440 put me in a gunny sack. I'm gonna play the same and I'm 660 00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:10.880 gonna play my ass off. Uh. For me, I needed the stirrups. 661 00:44:12.039 --> 00:44:14.599 I was pretty specific. I needed mine. What kind of player? 662 00:44:14.639 --> 00:44:19.159 Would you? Probably? But did you okay? Did you feel like if 663 00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:22.880 everything was just right you felt better on the field? Oh? Yeah, 664 00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:24.760 for sure. I was a big routine guy. Did you play better? 665 00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:29.440 I did, especially since I was a pitcher. Everything was had to be 666 00:44:29.519 --> 00:44:31.079 perfect for me to go out there. So you must have been undefeated. 667 00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:39.159 No, there's point. My point is uniforms don't being much. This town 668 00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:45.280 goes Bizoncres over overniforms. Let me see, everyone's looked pretty good at football 669 00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:47.400 uniforms. They haven't won a whole lot. Now. The uniforms during the 670 00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:52.400 Summlin years were awful, and they were and everything about those years were awful. 671 00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:54.000 If they'd have had better uniforms, they have been better. Did you 672 00:44:54.039 --> 00:44:59.880 know what I'm talking about? Just you put the best players and give them 673 00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:01.760 number with the little T shirt. They'll be fine. They'll be fine. 674 00:45:01.960 --> 00:45:07.400 Did you see what happened yesterday with uh with the guy from Oregon um and 675 00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:13.360 and Lebron? Oh? Uh, Dylan? What a what a pub that? 676 00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:15.280 You know what? What? I get it, I get it, 677 00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:21.320 I get it. But what he's he's trying to and I think it's his 678 00:45:21.480 --> 00:45:24.920 way of giving himself confidence by by kind of downplaying Lebron sing I'm as good 679 00:45:24.960 --> 00:45:29.119 as him or whatever. Maybe that makes him feel better about him. So 680 00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:31.280 did you listen to the comments afterward? Yeah, yeah, that's what you're 681 00:45:31.320 --> 00:45:34.519 talking. Okay. I want to make sure because you got the full context. 682 00:45:34.840 --> 00:45:37.239 He's old, he's blah, Yeah really come on, Yeah, that's 683 00:45:37.239 --> 00:45:42.440 just gonna piss him up. He's talking yourself into not leading him be as 684 00:45:42.559 --> 00:45:45.199 much of a factor as he is because he's really the best player. Well, 685 00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:47.960 I think that Thompson says the best, that this guy should talk a 686 00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:52.079 lot when they're winning. When they're not winning, they sure don't talk a 687 00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:55.840 lot, right, But and you know what he even said, He said, 688 00:45:57.079 --> 00:46:00.119 I like poking the bad people say, don't poke the bear. Get 689 00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:02.440 that, I get that, And he's good at that. He's good at 690 00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:07.159 that. But when they poked back. Yeah, there's a phrase in basketball 691 00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:10.159 and basketball and probably and everything other than other things. Uh, the teams 692 00:46:10.199 --> 00:46:14.800 that press don't like to get pressed, right because they're not used to it. 693 00:46:14.920 --> 00:46:16.760 Right. It's like the bully thing. How do you how do you 694 00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:20.320 take care of a bully? You bully, bully him right back, you 695 00:46:20.360 --> 00:46:22.559 bully the right and they don't know what to do. But think of the 696 00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:28.400 many legendary stories we've heard about somebody poking Michael Jordan, right, polking Larry 697 00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:31.360 Bird the worst thing, Kobe Bryant worst and then where you know, then 698 00:46:31.480 --> 00:46:35.840 Kobe's gonna go for eighty two on you right right, you know, Larry 699 00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:38.360 Bird says, I'm gonna shoot from that spot when when the ball comes out 700 00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:43.360 and you can't stop me, and then he does. Right. But I'm 701 00:46:43.480 --> 00:46:45.719 I'm all for not poking the bear. Yeah, just play, just play. 702 00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:49.360 Although it's go for the bear by beating him, it makes a good 703 00:46:49.440 --> 00:46:52.079 copy and it makes good stories. Good for us. Yeah, sure, 704 00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:53.840 he gave us a couple of minutes there to talk about something, But no, 705 00:46:54.039 --> 00:46:57.800 I I'm a I'm a believer in that. Right. You know, 706 00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:00.559 if you're if you're the team that's you know, two and two and eight 707 00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:06.559 and you're going against somebody who's undefeated, have all the confidence in the world 708 00:47:06.599 --> 00:47:08.239 that you can win the game. But don't go out and say it to 709 00:47:08.320 --> 00:47:10.800 those guys. You just piss no no, no said, So you played, 710 00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:15.760 you pitched. I'm sure there was a time or two that you probably 711 00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:17.960 wanted to hit a batter or two. Yeah, there was. There definitely 712 00:47:17.960 --> 00:47:22.079 a few times in high school those games would get really intention just with everyone 713 00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:24.679 being so close right right, and some of them talked a lot of crap, 714 00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:28.639 right probably, and you say, you know, next time you're up, 715 00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:30.199 watch for the one inside. You're gonna get one in the ear. 716 00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:34.880 Yeah. That we had a sign with that catch yourself. We had that 717 00:47:34.960 --> 00:47:37.599 off figure out. So did you actually I don't know if you want to 718 00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:40.000 admit it, but did you actually punk that guy through behind? I felt 719 00:47:40.039 --> 00:47:45.679 it was more effective. I didn't get a free base. That's the Randy 720 00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:53.079 Johnson exactly exactly exactly. You know, you know, funny story. My 721 00:47:53.480 --> 00:47:57.400 son, I'm old school, So my son was old school in baseball so 722 00:47:57.480 --> 00:48:00.440 we're playing a team. They're beating out, they're up on twenty runs, 723 00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:04.679 okay, and they steal a base. Right my son is playing shortstop. 724 00:48:04.960 --> 00:48:08.639 He starts walking in from shortstop to go tell our picture to hit the guy. 725 00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:13.719 And I'm like, get back in your position. Just let's end this 726 00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:16.159 game. Because he got mad and he was gonna tell our picture to hit 727 00:48:16.239 --> 00:48:19.719 him. And I said, you know, I know what you're saying, 728 00:48:20.039 --> 00:48:22.119 I know what you want to do, but you know what, let's let's 729 00:48:22.159 --> 00:48:24.320 just get out of here, you know, get out of here. Down 730 00:48:27.280 --> 00:48:30.159 you have talked about this while I was, well, you know, we 731 00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:34.840 don't have to go that. Well, yeah, because interesting. But we 732 00:48:34.920 --> 00:48:37.360 had a few of those my last season as a as a head baseball coach. 733 00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:40.719 We weren't very good though, and we had a lot of frustrating games, 734 00:48:42.119 --> 00:48:45.199 and there were some things so and that was one of them. Were 735 00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:49.039 down a bunch and again the guy stole the base, and what are you 736 00:48:49.039 --> 00:48:51.800 doing stealing the base? You're by you know, twenty something in the stats 737 00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:55.960 from the stats Adam wanted. Adam wanted a ball in the guy's ear on 738 00:48:57.039 --> 00:49:00.639 the next pitch, and our poor picture thrown so many pitch. He might 739 00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:07.400 have hit him right and I no, no, because position. But he's 740 00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:12.519 gonna have to aim at the guy. Where that's gonna go. Who knows 741 00:49:12.519 --> 00:49:14.480 where that's gonna go. Man, I saw a pitch the other day. 742 00:49:14.920 --> 00:49:17.920 Uh do you see the umpire He took one in the face. I mean, 743 00:49:19.000 --> 00:49:22.119 and he went down, went off the bat. No, went off 744 00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:24.920 the bat. And we're talking. I mean but just nick the bats so 745 00:49:25.119 --> 00:49:30.559 missed the catcher's glove and I mean square in the face. Think pops up. 746 00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:32.960 He's flopped face down to the ground. He's go. Man, that's 747 00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:37.360 just a that's just a tough job. It's just a tough well. They 748 00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:38.840 may not need him anymore. They're gonna train. Maybe think about going to 749 00:49:38.920 --> 00:49:44.079 it. Yeah, I don't know if you did see that. You know 750 00:49:44.199 --> 00:49:47.559 the max shers are getting tossed yesterday because of the stuff on his hands. 751 00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:55.079 Um, that's happened since they started the checking the hands. They three pitchers 752 00:49:55.119 --> 00:49:59.679 have been tossed from a game for having sticky stuff on their hands this year. 753 00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:04.320 Three years. I think it's two years. That's not only three guys. 754 00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:07.760 All three times it's been the same umpire. Oh. Some people are 755 00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:15.239 saying this guy's got it different than everybody. Doesn't the opposing team have to 756 00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:19.519 request it or no, no, no, once every pitch or once a 757 00:50:19.639 --> 00:50:22.920 game goes in coming off the coming off the mound, before he gets to 758 00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:25.239 the dugout, they checked their hands, they checked their glove and they checked 759 00:50:25.280 --> 00:50:29.800 their hands. Okay, and so they instituted that I think last year. 760 00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:34.320 So in three last years, this year, it's only happened three times that 761 00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:37.360 somebody from getting checked like that has gotten tossed. And all three times there's 762 00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:39.920 the umpire who did it. Yesterday, it makes sense. Did you see 763 00:50:39.960 --> 00:50:45.199 that the ref for the Chris Paul. Yeah, he overcame the Chris finally 764 00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:49.360 beat the Chris Paul finally won a game against that ref. Yeah, twelve 765 00:50:49.360 --> 00:50:52.559 and I think it was. Yeah, But there's really interesting. Max Chers 766 00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:54.960 are still pissed off. He's gonna get a ten game suspension. Yeah. 767 00:50:55.239 --> 00:50:59.719 Yeah. There's also free breaking news of the Diamondbacks and they're one of their 768 00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:02.159 pitch you probably have him drafted. I won't go there until we do. 769 00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:07.599 The breaking news was released today. Oh bum garnery, they let him go. 770 00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:14.199 Bitch thirty four million. They have eating it, eating it well, 771 00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:17.280 I mean he got he got crushed yesterday, he got crushed. And then 772 00:51:17.360 --> 00:51:20.880 while he was getting crushed, he got in a he got in a big 773 00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:25.960 argument with through a tantrum for you know, because you know why, because 774 00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:29.679 he thought the batter swung too hard. I didn't understand that. I don't 775 00:51:29.760 --> 00:51:32.519 understand. He was fifteen and thirty two for the Diamondbacks and all that time. 776 00:51:32.880 --> 00:51:37.559 But he thought he thought the batter disrespected him by swinging so hard that 777 00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:43.039 he kind of stumbled across the batter's box and he and he got mad at 778 00:51:43.119 --> 00:51:45.679 him and started yelling at what's the deal there? There's no deal there? 779 00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:52.960 Right, hessed him do it again? All right, Okay, we're gonna 780 00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:55.000 be right back with breaking news, Steve said, lots of stuff going on, 781 00:51:55.159 --> 00:51:59.559 so stick around for that, and then we're gonna have a fancy shield 782 00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:04.519 on a men's tender. Will be right back m