WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.680 --> 00:00:07.200 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jake and Salez on Fox 2 00:00:07.240 --> 00:00:14.080 Sports fourteen fifty powered by Nova Insurance Services and Sure Your Most Prized Possessions kat 3 00:00:14.400 --> 00:00:18.120 Z, R TWU, SAG and iHeartRadio Station. Good, good afternoon, 4 00:00:18.120 --> 00:00:21.160 everybody. Welcome to Iron the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm 5 00:00:21.199 --> 00:00:26.719 Steve Rivera. Welcome back to my Mexican of friend Jay Gonzalez. They let 6 00:00:26.760 --> 00:00:29.000 you back into the country, which is a shock to me. Well again, 7 00:00:29.920 --> 00:00:32.399 it was kind of like get the hell out of our country kind of 8 00:00:32.439 --> 00:00:35.240 thing. They didn't want you either. Yeah, they were like, you 9 00:00:35.240 --> 00:00:38.159 know, I got to the border and they said they're waiting for you over 10 00:00:38.200 --> 00:00:43.960 there. Just go. It was like Heaven, Heaven, Jesse, been 11 00:00:44.039 --> 00:00:48.280 to bed, Jesse, somebody Gonzalez, Yeah, please go ahead. Wait, 12 00:00:48.320 --> 00:00:50.920 we got to get this riff raff out of our country right now, 13 00:00:51.320 --> 00:00:53.799 you know, you know what. Open a hole in the fence and get 14 00:00:53.840 --> 00:00:57.280 him out of here, Russia, rush him through, get him through, 15 00:00:57.439 --> 00:00:59.799 and you and you're here and I'm here, you know, good to be 16 00:00:59.799 --> 00:01:04.400 back without you, you know, Steve. You know I was telling Henry 17 00:01:04.439 --> 00:01:07.680 here on the on the way in, I said I you know, we 18 00:01:07.799 --> 00:01:11.840 everybody goes through this. You need a vacation from your vacation, right, 19 00:01:11.400 --> 00:01:17.319 I'm tired. I got home last night and just laying on the couch the 20 00:01:17.319 --> 00:01:21.680 rest of the night, watched television and tried to regroup this morning. I 21 00:01:21.719 --> 00:01:23.599 just, you know what, I'm gonna let let all the regrouping take place 22 00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:26.519 in the morning. I didn't do any any work when I got home last 23 00:01:26.560 --> 00:01:30.319 night, including I had a request on Twitter too, Hey, what the 24 00:01:30.359 --> 00:01:34.959 hell get the podcasts up? So all the podcasts from the last week. 25 00:01:34.079 --> 00:01:37.719 I'll get him up tonight. Okay, yeah, because because we had a 26 00:01:37.760 --> 00:01:41.200 few requests about where's going, Well, he's in Mexico. Well the truth 27 00:01:41.319 --> 00:01:48.079 is that downloading radio files where we were was not happening, aren't. I 28 00:01:48.120 --> 00:01:52.000 mean, we go to a place where it's usually good. Internet servicing was 29 00:01:52.000 --> 00:01:55.599 spotty this this year for some reason. So, okay, you're fine. 30 00:01:55.599 --> 00:01:57.959 You're on vacation. Yeah, you know, and I was on vacation. 31 00:01:57.040 --> 00:02:01.159 I mean I was getting the the social media, you know, announcing the 32 00:02:01.200 --> 00:02:05.680 show's sure it's going there, sure, yeah, Ricky and Rocky, Ricky 33 00:02:05.719 --> 00:02:10.520 and Rocky, yeah, catch yeah, but no big it was a good 34 00:02:10.520 --> 00:02:13.639 show. Yesterday. You missed some good things. A lot of things that 35 00:02:13.719 --> 00:02:17.199 happened over the weekend disappointing. We can kind of recap some things with you. 36 00:02:19.000 --> 00:02:22.400 We had Lev on, we had Javier on talking about baseball. Uh 37 00:02:22.719 --> 00:02:24.680 it's uh what did you say before you came we came on? What the 38 00:02:24.719 --> 00:02:28.080 hell happened? Or what did you say? Uh? So, what the 39 00:02:28.080 --> 00:02:30.680 hell was that? Yeah? Yeah, well it was just another And Henry 40 00:02:30.680 --> 00:02:35.080 came in with the solution panicking, what was it? Just not upright? 41 00:02:35.280 --> 00:02:38.240 Well, there's more pressure on him being a host. I think whenever there's 42 00:02:38.240 --> 00:02:43.199 more pressure on you. Of eight teams recently, Carvier he used that theory 43 00:02:43.639 --> 00:02:46.680 and think about it, and Lev came back with the same kind of solution. 44 00:02:46.080 --> 00:02:51.599 They played for exactly what they got a home field advantage that turned into 45 00:02:51.599 --> 00:02:53.240 craft. I'm sorry, I don't I don't buy that. It was too 46 00:02:53.280 --> 00:02:57.680 much pressure on him thing. You know. Other number one seeds didn't do 47 00:02:57.759 --> 00:03:00.960 what they did right. I mean, they just came out and I mean 48 00:03:00.039 --> 00:03:06.879 there was it was listless. It was they looked they looked like they lacked 49 00:03:07.039 --> 00:03:09.599 energy. You know, the hitters you were swinging a crap and then the 50 00:03:09.879 --> 00:03:13.840 you know, and then the thing that had got them there, they're starting 51 00:03:13.879 --> 00:03:16.120 pitching just went all to hell in a hand basket. And and so it 52 00:03:16.159 --> 00:03:20.159 all fell apart. One of the things that we talked about. And then 53 00:03:20.800 --> 00:03:24.039 momentum is is the word, uh the United debate or I don't agree with 54 00:03:24.080 --> 00:03:29.240 you do, but in baseball of any sport, that has a lot to 55 00:03:29.240 --> 00:03:30.919 do with a lot of things, you're playing, well, feed, well, 56 00:03:30.080 --> 00:03:32.879 all that stuff. Uh, they had the momentum coming in right, 57 00:03:34.159 --> 00:03:37.240 and I'm using that word loosely. Uh, and then it all fell apart, 58 00:03:37.319 --> 00:03:39.719 all at the same time, all all at once, and they couldn't 59 00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:44.199 couldn't find it again. It was the Oregon State Series. In the first 60 00:03:44.199 --> 00:03:46.560 two games. Yeah, they couldn't field, they couldn't hit, they couldn't 61 00:03:46.599 --> 00:03:53.159 pitch. Now, okay, so now I mean in the Grand Canyon game, 62 00:03:53.199 --> 00:03:54.039 wasn't No, it wasn't the Grand Canyon Game. I think, No, 63 00:03:54.120 --> 00:03:58.240 that was the never mind it was it was the it was the Pac 64 00:03:58.280 --> 00:04:00.240 twelve series. But they just, you know, they were just doing things 65 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:04.719 that they just don't do, don't do right the thing. Okay, So 66 00:04:04.759 --> 00:04:08.639 now we know the results, we all that and all that, and there's 67 00:04:08.639 --> 00:04:13.479 still now some factions with Chip obviously that this is not just a one off, 68 00:04:13.680 --> 00:04:15.360 right, it's a three off. It's a three off. Yeah, 69 00:04:15.399 --> 00:04:18.000 and you know, and and you know, numbers are numbers, right, 70 00:04:18.040 --> 00:04:23.439 and people are gonna say what they're gonna say. Yeah, but you know, 71 00:04:23.959 --> 00:04:25.560 and he even said, he said, look, we got to do 72 00:04:25.600 --> 00:04:29.879 something different to get it. So he'll obviously address that in whatever way. 73 00:04:29.879 --> 00:04:30.879 He even said, I'm gonna go out, I'm gonna talk to friends of 74 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:33.399 mine. I'm gonna talk to people who've been through this, who coach this 75 00:04:33.519 --> 00:04:36.120 kind of stuff, and I'm gonna come up with some thoughts on, you 76 00:04:36.120 --> 00:04:40.199 know, on how to how to do this better. You know, he's 77 00:04:40.240 --> 00:04:43.600 not digging his heels in and saying the way I do it is right, 78 00:04:43.639 --> 00:04:46.000 and that's I'm going to keep doing what I'm doing right. Some coaches do 79 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:53.240 do that, so you have to again, you know, in the end, 80 00:04:53.360 --> 00:04:55.720 they got into the n C douable A Tournament. It was ugly the 81 00:04:55.720 --> 00:04:58.759 way it ended. It put a real damper. You know. It's like 82 00:04:58.839 --> 00:05:00.560 it's kind of like the last thing that people see, you know, for 83 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:03.720 the season, and that's what they think of, just like they think of 84 00:05:03.759 --> 00:05:06.279 you know, the Clemson game. They think of, you know, the 85 00:05:06.279 --> 00:05:10.959 way Oklahoma State beat the hell out of the softball women, all of those 86 00:05:11.000 --> 00:05:14.439 things, it's the last thing that happened to think about. And that's the 87 00:05:14.600 --> 00:05:16.920 that's the taste that's left in everybody's mouth. Well I said that to to 88 00:05:17.120 --> 00:05:20.240 Ryan, to Matt Reynoldson. You know, he's a TV guy. You're 89 00:05:20.240 --> 00:05:24.199 as good as your last haircut, and this haircut was not very good. 90 00:05:24.360 --> 00:05:27.560 Yeah, you know. I mean, imagine how would people feel about the 91 00:05:27.560 --> 00:05:30.000 football program right now if they had lost to Oklahoma and the way they would 92 00:05:30.040 --> 00:05:32.720 have lost to them at the end, giving up the lead and yeah came. 93 00:05:32.800 --> 00:05:35.839 So you know, it's it's the last thing. And because of that 94 00:05:35.920 --> 00:05:39.800 Oklahoma win and the in the Alemal, well, that's why people can't wait 95 00:05:39.800 --> 00:05:44.600 for the football seasons to start, especially now that the softball, baseball, 96 00:05:45.480 --> 00:05:47.879 uh, you know, ended the way it ended, and and and men's 97 00:05:47.879 --> 00:05:50.319 basketball ended the way it ended. At the end of the day, though, 98 00:05:50.360 --> 00:05:54.560 I don't think your grade for the school changes. You had him at 99 00:05:54.600 --> 00:05:58.040 nine. I had him. I had an eight point nine. And I've 100 00:05:58.079 --> 00:06:02.120 been thinking about this. I I in the aftermath of what they did, 101 00:06:02.160 --> 00:06:06.040 I put an eight point four on it. Oh you did point but now 102 00:06:06.120 --> 00:06:11.079 two days later I think like an eight to seven. Well, just so 103 00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:15.279 you dropped them two or three out at nine because of how they performed at 104 00:06:15.279 --> 00:06:18.079 track. Because in the end, and it's not so much that that they 105 00:06:18.079 --> 00:06:23.439 didn't win the national championship, is how they how they played in a regional 106 00:06:23.519 --> 00:06:27.360 at home. Yeah, and and and for softball, the way they got 107 00:06:27.399 --> 00:06:30.000 blasted in those two games like they didn't belong on the field. That's why. 108 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:33.199 It's just the look of the way it ended. I think Vic is 109 00:06:33.240 --> 00:06:36.600 gonna call I'm just saying this. I'm predicting this because Vic, you're the 110 00:06:36.600 --> 00:06:40.279 trophy guy, and for all of a sudden, I'm the trophy guy because 111 00:06:40.319 --> 00:06:45.439 you're being more realistic, you're being candid in your review, whereas you know, 112 00:06:45.920 --> 00:06:48.680 well you know, and I'm being more diplomatic. Where where they played 113 00:06:48.720 --> 00:06:51.560 well, I mean, no one thought theyd get to this point and here 114 00:06:51.600 --> 00:06:55.240 they were in the end as we saw, we saw. You know, 115 00:06:55.920 --> 00:07:00.720 Arizona is one of six schools that got in a football Bowl game, bat 116 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:06.040 men's and women's basketball postseason, and baseball and soootball postseason. Only six teams 117 00:07:06.040 --> 00:07:10.519 did that. You know, Arizona, Texas. I can't remember who the 118 00:07:10.560 --> 00:07:12.839 others were, so you gotta give a lot of credit for that. That's 119 00:07:12.839 --> 00:07:15.680 why it's over an eight and a half. Okay, but you have to 120 00:07:15.720 --> 00:07:19.759 look at how all of those things, except for football ended. Hey, 121 00:07:19.800 --> 00:07:23.639 miss America, inn't she beautiful? She has a pimple on her nose. 122 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:27.839 I don't think she's she's missing the two. You're a tough judgments to Russian 123 00:07:27.920 --> 00:07:30.680 judge. Russian judge. Yeah, look, and again, I don't want 124 00:07:30.680 --> 00:07:35.199 to say that, you know. I mean, baseball did a great job, 125 00:07:35.560 --> 00:07:40.000 won a championship, overchieved you know, uh uh, you know, 126 00:07:40.319 --> 00:07:44.399 overcame some things from early in the year. It was for me as an 127 00:07:44.439 --> 00:07:49.120 Arizona fan, it was a really proud moment when they won both the regular 128 00:07:49.160 --> 00:07:54.199 season and conference championship, which were the last championships for the Pac twelve. 129 00:07:55.560 --> 00:07:58.839 Big deal. It was a big deal and I was ready to put him 130 00:07:58.879 --> 00:08:01.399 at night. I think if they had gotten into if the baseball team had 131 00:08:01.399 --> 00:08:03.920 gotten into a super region, I might have bumped him up to a nine 132 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:07.519 point zero. Have you ever seen naked and afraid at all? I don't, 133 00:08:07.560 --> 00:08:11.279 So they have. They're going with these numbers to go in and they 134 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:13.360 do all these things and craziness, and then it's like five and then they 135 00:08:13.399 --> 00:08:16.040 get out and they survive it and they move them to eat like in survival 136 00:08:16.079 --> 00:08:20.240 mode or whatever. So you're you're pretty tough on the on the drop, 137 00:08:20.279 --> 00:08:22.600 Well, they didn't make it a way to get to drop them, so 138 00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:24.560 you know, I don't know they got where they were. They played poorly, 139 00:08:24.600 --> 00:08:28.360 and you dropped him a lot of points. I thought a college World 140 00:08:28.399 --> 00:08:31.759 Series would have warranted like a nine two or a nine three, but they 141 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:35.879 didn't get it. And then if if the softball had got into the World 142 00:08:35.919 --> 00:08:39.799 Series, oh even higher. Yeah, we got a call. I'm not 143 00:08:39.799 --> 00:08:43.200 sure this is high. You're on the air and I on the ball going 144 00:08:43.240 --> 00:08:50.200 today, Brian, Brian, what we're doing. We're good? Can you 145 00:08:50.200 --> 00:08:54.240 hear us? Yeah? Okay, baseball team did exactly what I think we 146 00:08:54.360 --> 00:08:58.440 expected to do. You know, they they got to the tournament, which 147 00:08:58.440 --> 00:09:01.320 we're happy there. They weren't as good as everybody. They're about as good 148 00:09:01.320 --> 00:09:05.320 as we thought they were at the beginning of the season. But see, 149 00:09:05.360 --> 00:09:09.240 I thought they were playing so much better I thought, and especially with the 150 00:09:09.279 --> 00:09:11.679 pitching and that that's that's the deal, and that's what was most disappointing the 151 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:16.600 hitting. Brian, didn't you did? You call in earlier this week and 152 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:18.639 said the same thing, And I said, because you were there, right, 153 00:09:18.720 --> 00:09:22.720 you went to the games. I went to all of them, and 154 00:09:22.799 --> 00:09:28.039 overall, I think you were more pragmatic about the whole situation. Yeah. 155 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:31.600 I mean they were picked to finish ninth, they won both the league and 156 00:09:31.679 --> 00:09:35.639 the tournament. We should be happy. Yeah, I think Chip Hal did 157 00:09:35.639 --> 00:09:39.279 a great job for what he had. He did. I mean he lost, 158 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:43.559 he lost a ton from last year. Yeah. No, I don't. 159 00:09:43.720 --> 00:09:46.960 I don't. I'm not debating whether or not he did. He did 160 00:09:46.039 --> 00:09:50.559 do a great job to do what he did and putting this team together to 161 00:09:50.559 --> 00:09:54.960 get to where they got to being picked finished ninth. But once they got 162 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:56.960 to there and you realize these guys are pretty good, especially when you think 163 00:09:58.000 --> 00:10:01.039 about the way they beat Oregon State and then they you know, they won 164 00:10:01.080 --> 00:10:05.960 the tournament. The expectation was you got to at least get out of your 165 00:10:05.000 --> 00:10:13.000 region and not lose two games back to back badly to to mid majors. 166 00:10:13.639 --> 00:10:18.399 Well, okay, okay, Grand Canyon. We lost them three out of 167 00:10:18.440 --> 00:10:22.279 four times this year. Yeah, so it's this that should not have been 168 00:10:22.279 --> 00:10:26.799 a surprise. You know. The pitching, unfortunately, was not as good 169 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:30.799 as we wonted and the hitting was about what we expected, not very good. 170 00:10:31.960 --> 00:10:33.639 It was a bit of a surprise. If this team, if this 171 00:10:33.720 --> 00:10:37.080 team gets down by three runs or whatever, they're done for the game. 172 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:43.440 Yeah. My thought though with the Grand Canyon game was that when Arizona played 173 00:10:43.480 --> 00:10:48.320 Grand Canyon, they weren't playing there you know, Friday, Saturday, Sunday 174 00:10:48.320 --> 00:10:52.759 starters. I thought Grand Canyon would be, you know, confident, but 175 00:10:52.840 --> 00:10:56.600 they were going to see pitching that they didn't see against Arizona in those previous 176 00:10:56.639 --> 00:11:00.799 games, and that Arizona they're like, okay, now we're going to play 177 00:11:00.879 --> 00:11:03.759 with our best stuff. So I kind of I didn't discount those losses. 178 00:11:03.879 --> 00:11:07.440 I felt like they would be important from the standpoint that Grand Canyon would come 179 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:11.879 in here believing they could beat Arizona. But I also thought Arizona wasn't going 180 00:11:11.960 --> 00:11:16.279 to put a pitcher on the mound in this game that Grand Canyon saw earlier 181 00:11:16.320 --> 00:11:20.320 in the year. Yeah. You know, if you would have seen the 182 00:11:20.360 --> 00:11:24.320 Grand Canyon team and I saw all the games at the tournament. That team 183 00:11:24.320 --> 00:11:28.919 could hit holy crap, and well soaka Dallas Baptist. You know, well, 184 00:11:28.960 --> 00:11:31.840 and they did. Those teams could wreck the ball. I couldn't. 185 00:11:31.879 --> 00:11:35.080 I couldn't remember, Brian, if you had given me a number of your 186 00:11:35.080 --> 00:11:41.559 overall for the whole year for baseball, No, no, for the whole 187 00:11:41.600 --> 00:11:43.799 just grade the program on a scale of one to ten for the year. 188 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:50.159 I think about eight. I guess. Well, football was higher than I 189 00:11:50.159 --> 00:11:54.360 thought it would be. You know, Uh, baseball is about where I 190 00:11:54.360 --> 00:11:58.080 thought it would be. Softball we had no pitching there. That's not where 191 00:11:58.080 --> 00:12:05.799 we we should be. You know, men's basketball, You know, it's 192 00:12:05.840 --> 00:12:09.000 got to a point where I can sit here. It's easier to say afterwards. 193 00:12:09.440 --> 00:12:13.080 But you know, because everything changes so much in sports now, you 194 00:12:13.120 --> 00:12:16.279 know, I mean, like what's going to happen? Like basketball? I 195 00:12:16.320 --> 00:12:20.720 mean we have you know, there's going to be a twenty five win team 196 00:12:20.799 --> 00:12:24.679 next year. We don't know basketball, Yeah, because there's just so much 197 00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:31.360 that's everybody though. Everybody's having huge amounts of turnover. It's not just Arizona, 198 00:12:31.159 --> 00:12:37.279 okay, And whoever has the most money is going to win. We'll 199 00:12:37.279 --> 00:12:41.639 see what happens. Well, certainly in women's golf. Right, oh yeah, 200 00:12:41.960 --> 00:12:46.159 especially there. Yeah, yeah, well, thank you. Good to 201 00:12:46.159 --> 00:12:48.279 be back, Brian, thanks for colling. Yeah, so let me let 202 00:12:48.279 --> 00:12:52.200 me go back to this thing. I got a I was with a bunch 203 00:12:52.240 --> 00:12:54.519 of guys last night and one of the guys says, you know, one 204 00:12:54.559 --> 00:12:56.159 of my friendstances, why are you so negative, Steve. I think I'm 205 00:12:56.159 --> 00:13:00.919 not negative, I'm just really realistic. Uh we I talk about this with 206 00:13:00.960 --> 00:13:03.600 you guys. You have your group of when they people, how many are 207 00:13:03.639 --> 00:13:09.080 realistic? Have I asked you this before? Okay, okay, thank you. 208 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:16.440 That's that's so now I understand why they think I'm negative, because the 209 00:13:16.440 --> 00:13:20.440 people who listen to us. Thank you for listening to us. One one 210 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:24.000 Pollyanna, Yeah, you come to the wrong place, and I think I 211 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:26.440 think I think I'm trying to be realistic. You're you're a little bit more 212 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:31.559 Pollyanna than I am, but you're also training more realistic. Yes, yeah, 213 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:37.639 well I okay, it kind of depends on the circumstance or the environment 214 00:13:37.720 --> 00:13:41.919 or whatever. I try to be semi realistic here, okay, okay, 215 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:46.799 all right, okay, but it just depends on the conversation. Because look, 216 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:52.480 in the end, you know, did I think, look, well, 217 00:13:52.559 --> 00:13:54.360 let's go, let's talk about the football season last year? When did 218 00:13:54.480 --> 00:14:00.600 When did I told you when I finally gave in and believed that Arizona was 219 00:14:00.639 --> 00:14:05.240 pretty good. Not until the Utah game. I kept thinking, they're going 220 00:14:05.279 --> 00:14:09.240 to start losing. And that was November late, Right, They're gonna yeah, 221 00:14:09.279 --> 00:14:13.320 they're going to start losing because I just don't believe that they're this good. 222 00:14:13.039 --> 00:14:16.879 Right, and then they won ten games. So, you know, 223 00:14:18.039 --> 00:14:20.480 in that respect, I thought I was pretty realistic, and maybe maybe I 224 00:14:20.600 --> 00:14:24.600 was, you know, again shaded by you know, the heartbreak I've lived 225 00:14:24.600 --> 00:14:28.600 through. You know, over time, I think we got a little giddy 226 00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:33.360 about the basketball team. You know, from that November and December performance. 227 00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:35.679 We thought they're pretty damn good, and then we realized that they weren't. 228 00:14:35.720 --> 00:14:41.080 So I think neither of us were very realistic about that. You're right, 229 00:14:41.200 --> 00:14:43.000 you know, So I think I can be pretty realistic. Then there are 230 00:14:43.039 --> 00:14:46.039 times that I'm a little you know, I get a little over the edge. 231 00:14:46.639 --> 00:14:50.080 Yeah, a little. I thought to pull you back a few times, 232 00:14:50.240 --> 00:14:52.360 but we got to go after this first segment. But Tom Denahey, 233 00:14:52.480 --> 00:14:56.279 a former columnists for the Two soun Weekly, just inducted to the Pema County 234 00:14:56.600 --> 00:15:00.720 Hall of Fame Ports of Fame. And then we have in the second hour 235 00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:05.039 we have Roberto Garcia, the head coach of FC two Song Women really well 236 00:15:05.320 --> 00:15:07.759 the legendary Kelly Pierce. We'll talk to them about how they're doing and maybe 237 00:15:07.799 --> 00:15:11.679 you can go out and catch a game or two of their So I'll be 238 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:13.720 talking to some FC twos on Women in the second hour, but coming right 239 00:15:13.799 --> 00:15:18.120 up after the break, Tom Dany, Pema County Sports Hall of Fame. 240 00:15:18.200 --> 00:15:22.080 Well, grab back. The Window Depot has everything you need to create the 241 00:15:22.159 --> 00:15:26.879 kitchen or bathroom of your dreams. Frowsyisles of instock cabinets available in a variety 242 00:15:26.919 --> 00:15:31.639 of sizes and configurations, and instantly elevate your space. Today, visit a 243 00:15:31.679 --> 00:15:35.080 showroom and let our experts guide you. 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Now I won't if only have Tom Danny the newest or one of 317 00:20:45.480 --> 00:20:48.319 the newest members of the Pema County Sports Hall of Fame. Tom, how 318 00:20:48.359 --> 00:20:52.920 are you? I'm good? You We're doing fine. Thank you? How 319 00:20:52.920 --> 00:20:57.319 you been? I'm always good? Come on, you're always good, dude. 320 00:20:57.319 --> 00:21:00.519 I haven't seen you a long time, you know. Don't get to 321 00:21:00.599 --> 00:21:06.160 laugh with you anymore. I'm sad. Well, that's true. I haven't 322 00:21:06.200 --> 00:21:10.160 been in the Arizona press box for quite a while since before the pandemic. 323 00:21:11.319 --> 00:21:15.039 Yeah, well, but I'm sure you. I'm sure you've before we get 324 00:21:15.079 --> 00:21:18.880 to the Pima County Hall of Fame thing with you, I'm sure you keep 325 00:21:18.119 --> 00:21:22.000 your eyes on what's going on at you of a What did you make of 326 00:21:22.079 --> 00:21:27.960 the season the entire program had for the school year. Well, obviously, 327 00:21:27.960 --> 00:21:36.000 the football team was amazing, and it bothered me that they lost those two 328 00:21:36.039 --> 00:21:41.920 overtime games. That would have been really niceouldn't it. But they I mean, 329 00:21:41.359 --> 00:21:45.640 to come from where they came and then to end up where they did 330 00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:51.880 that was just amazing. The basketball team, they're gonna have to get better 331 00:21:51.920 --> 00:21:56.319 and now in the postseason obviously, But I mean, there are just some 332 00:21:56.480 --> 00:21:59.880 people that just can't get over that hump. And I hope that Tommy Lloyds 333 00:21:59.920 --> 00:22:04.000 and one of them. The softball team that Okay, the tennis I coached 334 00:22:04.039 --> 00:22:10.079 high school real tennis, and and I actually played tennis in college a million 335 00:22:10.160 --> 00:22:12.720 years ago, and so I've always been a tennis guy, and those guys 336 00:22:12.720 --> 00:22:18.000 are amazing. That's probably my favorite thing of the whole year. I mean, 337 00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:19.759 the baseball team did a good job of getting to the postseason, but 338 00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:25.720 h the tennis team, they're my favorites. Yeah. You know, we 339 00:22:25.880 --> 00:22:29.039 we talked a couple of times about, you know, saying that we think 340 00:22:29.079 --> 00:22:36.720 that that good coach Plancy Shields maybe the best coach Michaeale Center right now. 341 00:22:37.160 --> 00:22:40.119 Uh, you know very You know, when you think about what he's accomplished, 342 00:22:40.119 --> 00:22:42.319 with what he's had, you know that you could arguably say that he's 343 00:22:42.359 --> 00:22:47.880 the he's the best coach you've got over there. I wouldn't I wouldn't argue 344 00:22:47.920 --> 00:22:52.119 against that. You know, he's something. Let me ask you real quick, 345 00:22:52.200 --> 00:22:55.319 just because I wouldn't have a clue. How do you coach tennis? 346 00:22:55.400 --> 00:23:00.960 Either you can play well you can't or no. Well, I think I 347 00:23:02.319 --> 00:23:03.920 could get you out there and i'd hook you. I was your daddy, 348 00:23:04.200 --> 00:23:11.279 you would. Let's get on the ping pong table, and daddy ping pong 349 00:23:11.359 --> 00:23:15.640 and rap ping pong and tickleballer for people who can't play real sports anymore. 350 00:23:17.200 --> 00:23:21.319 Well, right there with it. I think that category. I'm pretty sure 351 00:23:21.559 --> 00:23:25.279 I'm old that's true. I love ping pong, I really do love ping 352 00:23:25.319 --> 00:23:27.400 pong tickleball. Though. I wrote an article not long ago and I said, 353 00:23:27.960 --> 00:23:30.920 please don't ask me to play pickleball. I'm only seventy one. I'm 354 00:23:30.920 --> 00:23:40.400 not old enough yet. You know, it's just I refuse. But the 355 00:23:40.480 --> 00:23:44.359 thing is, I coached the girls at Anti. I'm just I got to 356 00:23:44.400 --> 00:23:48.799 say this. The six years before I got the Anti, the Anti girls 357 00:23:48.880 --> 00:23:53.799 tennis team went four and seventy and uh. And all I did is I 358 00:23:53.799 --> 00:23:57.279 got a bunch of basketball players out there to play tennis. So they're athletic 359 00:23:57.960 --> 00:24:03.880 and and in the past three years we're thirty and ten. Wow. So 360 00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:07.079 you say, you say you're they can't So you're a better coach because you 361 00:24:07.119 --> 00:24:11.160 have better athletes out there? Is that what it is? Isn't that the 362 00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:14.359 story for every coach? You know? And I L baby yeah, and 363 00:24:14.480 --> 00:24:19.759 I L so okay, So let's let's talk about your Hall of Fame induction. 364 00:24:19.880 --> 00:24:22.880 I mean it. You know you're you're one of them. I have 365 00:24:22.000 --> 00:24:25.759 to mention this though. I also you know, I still coach the Anti 366 00:24:25.839 --> 00:24:30.880 girls basketball team. Oh you're not number one thing. You're not immaculate heart 367 00:24:30.920 --> 00:24:37.279 anymore. I'm sorry, You're not an immaculate heart. Anymore. Maculate heart. 368 00:24:37.400 --> 00:24:41.839 Isn't that a maculate heart anymore? What happened to them? It doesn't 369 00:24:41.839 --> 00:24:48.000 exist. Oh, I didn't know that. I'd news to me, news 370 00:24:48.039 --> 00:24:51.160 to me. Okay, No, I'm not by the last three years. 371 00:24:51.160 --> 00:24:55.279 And we we won the Regent Championship a couple of years ago. And and 372 00:24:55.359 --> 00:24:59.920 we've had three winning seasons in a row, which is something because I had 373 00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:04.119 I had twenty one consecutive losing seasons. I've got I've got great kids. 374 00:25:04.160 --> 00:25:07.279 I mean I really do. And there aren't a ton of them, but 375 00:25:07.319 --> 00:25:15.920 I have some really really good ballplayers. Yeah, and no seniors. I've 376 00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:19.319 got three three going to be juniors that are are that could all play in 377 00:25:19.359 --> 00:25:22.599 college. Yeah. You talked about us joking before you got in the air, 378 00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:25.680 and I said, I'm old. I know, Jay feels like he's 379 00:25:25.720 --> 00:25:27.319 old. You said you were old. But you've been doing this a long 380 00:25:27.359 --> 00:25:30.240 time, with the with the coaching, h it must keep you young, 381 00:25:30.440 --> 00:25:36.559 or at least a sense of being young. All Right. The thing is 382 00:25:37.119 --> 00:25:41.119 some of the I coached boys for a little while quite a while ago, 383 00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:47.000 and uh, and then I took time off to raise my kids. And 384 00:25:47.359 --> 00:25:49.039 then when I got into coaching. I was. I was fifty when I 385 00:25:49.039 --> 00:25:56.240 started coaching seriously and and I some of the actor to coach a girls freshman 386 00:25:56.359 --> 00:26:00.519 basketball team one time, and I said, okay, fine, I've never 387 00:26:00.599 --> 00:26:04.000 gone back to coaching boys. Boys walking to gym knowing everything, and girls 388 00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:10.160 walking to gym teach me something. That's that's part of what he's too young, 389 00:26:10.240 --> 00:26:11.480 you know, is that you see that look in their eye when you 390 00:26:11.599 --> 00:26:15.680 go, oh, he actually knew what he was talking about. And when 391 00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:18.440 they try something you're come to do and uh, and they get better a 392 00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:25.119 little bit better every day. I hope that I'm able to coach until you 393 00:26:25.160 --> 00:26:30.640 know, I'm in the ground, so I have no idea. I see 394 00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:33.200 people all the time to go oh, I couldn't take it anymore, you 395 00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:37.839 know, I stopped, But it's it's the most fun thing I do. 396 00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:41.400 Well, you mentioned that you you you know, you started you started coaching 397 00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:42.720 when you were fifty, and so you've been doing it for a couple of 398 00:26:42.759 --> 00:26:48.799 decades and just staying involved. Why why has sports been something you've wanted to 399 00:26:48.839 --> 00:26:53.720 stay involved with and do in Tucson, whether writing about it, participating, 400 00:26:55.000 --> 00:26:59.000 you know, being a coach. However, you've you've you've done sports in 401 00:26:59.079 --> 00:27:03.839 Tucson, and why, well, it's such a cliche. I grew up 402 00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:08.119 in a rough neighborhood in Los Angeles. I grew up where they beat up 403 00:27:08.200 --> 00:27:14.799 Rodney King and and but I had great athletes that lived in the neighborhood. 404 00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:18.720 Gary Matthews, the guy they called the star him. Yep, totally. 405 00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:22.640 Uh, here's my best friends going out growing up in high school. My 406 00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:26.920 my next door neighbor was a guy named Bobby Chacone who won a school boy 407 00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:32.440 world championship in boxing school boy. Uh the same. I went to the 408 00:27:32.440 --> 00:27:36.720 same high school as as Charles White. Yah, okay, I mean and 409 00:27:36.799 --> 00:27:41.440 so sports. It sounds corny, but I had two good parents who kept 410 00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:44.480 me on the straight and narrow, and I was gonna I was going to 411 00:27:44.519 --> 00:27:45.720 be a good student, and I was going to go to college and everything. 412 00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:51.599 But sports just made life worth living. I mean, it made it 413 00:27:51.720 --> 00:27:53.400 made it better. I mean, if if there was bad stuff going along 414 00:27:53.440 --> 00:27:56.799 in the neighborhood and outside in the world, uh, you get in the 415 00:27:56.799 --> 00:28:00.039 gym and it was like an oasis. And I tell kids that all the 416 00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:03.920 time I should be in the gym. All that nonsense stays outside and for 417 00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:10.240 those two hours you're in the gym, and and I just you know, 418 00:28:10.240 --> 00:28:12.240 a lot of people are saying, you know, you know, sports build 419 00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:15.200 character. I don't know if it does or not, if it if it 420 00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:21.759 reveals it, but I do know that that I love watching kids get better 421 00:28:21.880 --> 00:28:26.599 and stronger and smarter. Uh and sport helps it along the way. And 422 00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:30.319 it's not perfate. I mean, I hate what's going on in college sports 423 00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:37.240 right now, but still I was. I'm gonna watch college sports on TV. 424 00:28:37.400 --> 00:28:40.640 I know I will, but I just think that. And and a 425 00:28:40.759 --> 00:28:45.880 Tucson too, I got. I got into writing when I was in college, 426 00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:48.839 and that's that's not my major at all. But I've been writing for 427 00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:52.720 quite a while. And my mother, may she rests in peace, told 428 00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:56.000 me you should always have an opinion, because if you don't, somebody else 429 00:28:56.000 --> 00:29:03.839 will have your opinion for you. And so I do. I could stress 430 00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:07.319 myself. So let me ask this opinion. You've been coaching for a while 431 00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:10.519 now. I don't want to ask you your age, but how have the 432 00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:15.839 kids learned seventy one twenty one years you've been coaching. What any difference between 433 00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:23.240 the kids from twenty one years ago to now phones cell phones that you didn't 434 00:29:23.240 --> 00:29:30.240 have TikTok. And I tell the girls on my basketball team, dump that 435 00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:33.920 dude. That's my favorite saying, Dump that dude. I don't care if 436 00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:36.400 he's a nice kid in the world. You don't have time for him. 437 00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:38.519 You got you're you're a student and you're an athlete, and you got to 438 00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:42.480 set aside an hour each day for TikTok, and then you got no time 439 00:29:42.519 --> 00:29:47.519 for boys. And so they're they're basically the same. You know, some 440 00:29:47.759 --> 00:29:51.640 say that the kids these days. I'll tell you what I do know this 441 00:29:52.680 --> 00:29:59.960 after the pandemic. The pandemic has mess kids up academically, not athletically. 442 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:02.599 I don't think it has done anything athletically, I know, but I know 443 00:30:02.920 --> 00:30:06.839 kids that were straight A students before the pandemic and now they get b's and 444 00:30:06.920 --> 00:30:11.759 c's and they just kind of shrug. And I think that year of remote 445 00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:18.279 learning messed a lot of people up. Wow. Interesting, interesting are you 446 00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:22.119 what makes you not say this? But are other people in agreement with you? 447 00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:27.759 Oh? Just about everybody I know that's in education. It would have 448 00:30:27.799 --> 00:30:32.640 been nice, if you know, if the country had any kind of solidarity, 449 00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:34.000 it would have been nice to say, you know what we missed the 450 00:30:34.079 --> 00:30:37.279 year, we're going to go back and everybody's going to go back to the 451 00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:41.119 grade they missed because you've got kids now that you know in math and science 452 00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:48.640 that have giant holes in their in their learning and understanding and and and I 453 00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:52.960 think that I don't know where. I don't know how long it's going to 454 00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:56.680 take before we catch up, or if we ever do. But I'm straying 455 00:30:56.720 --> 00:31:00.920 wasting sports. So and a lot of people, a lot of coaches and 456 00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:06.279 teachers and educators and the administrators, a lot of people agree with that that 457 00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:10.640 it's that we're running in quick sand trying to catch up to where we should 458 00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:14.400 be. Well, well, what do you what do you like about sports 459 00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:18.440 and Tucson and why you you've stayed involved in it and aside you know the 460 00:31:19.039 --> 00:31:22.039 mean, look, if you're a coach, it's because you love out there 461 00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:25.400 coaching kids, but sports and Tucson in general and sort of being in that 462 00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:30.920 environment so much, you know enough that you know. Pe mcconne would say, 463 00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:36.039 this guy belongs in the Hall of Fame. Well, I like the 464 00:31:36.079 --> 00:31:40.160 fact that the college town. I mean, I look back and you guys 465 00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:44.480 are old enough. I looked back to ik Sean Ellington is a kid. 466 00:31:44.519 --> 00:31:45.799 I used to play chess with him when he was a kid. I never 467 00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:52.000 let him win, and he'll just yeah, you can ask him sometime, 468 00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:56.799 you know. I mean, he get so upset. But I remember when 469 00:31:56.880 --> 00:32:01.000 when that nineteen eighty eighteen made it to the Final four, and I remember 470 00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:07.279 the entire town was just everybody had the T shirts and everybody was focused on 471 00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:09.240 it. And then I drove around the day and I went, I get 472 00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:12.400 I think, I want to get some fast food, and it was like 473 00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:16.799 a ghost town before that game started on that Saturday against Oklahoma, and and 474 00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:21.440 it was just unbelievable, and I thought to myself, this is really cool. 475 00:32:21.480 --> 00:32:24.440 I mean, growing up in LA there's there were the professional teams and 476 00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:29.279 the you know college junior college teams and the high school teams, and it 477 00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:30.880 was just it was hard to keep track and everything. I mean, you 478 00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:36.920 had a lot to choose from. But here it is truly a college town 479 00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:40.160 and a nice athletic community. So you must have played ball when you were 480 00:32:40.200 --> 00:32:46.359 younger. What did you play in and why? That's the other thing I 481 00:32:46.599 --> 00:32:50.599 toked it nowadays that go, oh, I'm going to do this year round, 482 00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:52.519 and I go, I hate that, I really do. I hate 483 00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:57.799 club sports and I hate kids playing the same sport year round. I'm going 484 00:32:57.839 --> 00:33:00.480 to say that a wild as I can. Yeah, in my neighborhood, 485 00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:07.079 everybody played everything. Baseball was basically for me. It was something to do 486 00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:10.599 between the end of basketball practice and the start a football practice. You know. 487 00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:15.000 I mean at that time of year when we all played baseball, we 488 00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:20.720 all played basketball and football. People ran track. Track was a big deal. 489 00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:24.519 I ran track. I had to run the distant races because there's no 490 00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:28.640 way I was going to be a sprinter or a hurdler or a jumper. 491 00:33:29.519 --> 00:33:34.799 And and I also played tennis. I have. I have six sisters, 492 00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:37.200 and I had three older sisters if I used to play tennis, and they 493 00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:40.880 used to make me go along with them so that they could play doubles. 494 00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:45.480 I learned to play tennis and never told any of my friends because tennis was 495 00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:50.799 not cool back in the day. And and then when I got to high 496 00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:53.440 school, since I played football and basketball, when I played tennis in the 497 00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:57.839 spring, I played baseball tennis in the spring. It was just I was 498 00:33:57.880 --> 00:34:05.559 just eccentric, you know, instead of nerd right, But again, sports 499 00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:08.400 we did. We did sports every single day. Yeah, but whatever the 500 00:34:08.400 --> 00:34:13.039 season made an agreement that we have played basketball every day of high school. 501 00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:15.039 We all stuck to. Let me ask you, because I know you have 502 00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:17.639 a long history in Tucson. What brought you here? That might be our 503 00:34:17.679 --> 00:34:21.199 last question because we're in out of time. But what brought you here? 504 00:34:21.519 --> 00:34:27.280 Was it the writing? H? No? I was I went to I 505 00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:31.920 played some sports in in California. I played freshman basketball at remember remember when 506 00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:36.960 you had to play freshman Yeah? Uh? And I played freshman basketball at 507 00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:43.559 at cal State north Ridge. And then I played a season of football someplace, 508 00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:46.639 and I just I got a scholarship offer to play basketball at co Chief 509 00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:51.199 in Douglas, and I thought, this is great. I can be outside 510 00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:53.800 of l A, not that far and I can play. And I actually 511 00:34:53.880 --> 00:34:58.840 went showing up ready to play football because that's my favorite sport to play. 512 00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:02.000 And they did have a football team, so I ended up playing tennis. 513 00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:05.800 They had tennis in the fall and then basketball in the winter, and I 514 00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:10.960 played baseball in the spring, and and I played all three sports. And 515 00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:19.519 then and then after getting out of Coachief, my lovely wife was coming to 516 00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:21.039 the u of A, and I said, well, see, I think 517 00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:25.159 I'll go where she goes. And uh, and I came to the u 518 00:35:25.159 --> 00:35:29.679 of A and just I mean, I love Tucson and and I've I've written 519 00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:32.719 I've written stuff for TV, you know, back in l A. And 520 00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:35.800 I never They always say, oh you want to come with her? No, 521 00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:38.599 I'll never go back. Yeah, And so I I really, I 522 00:35:38.639 --> 00:35:43.880 mean, is it's my home till I die, which I don't plan on 523 00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:51.519 doing. Good luck with that, Okay, father time is undefeated. Okay, 524 00:35:51.559 --> 00:35:52.559 well, thanks so much for joining us. It's great to talk to 525 00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:59.039 you, and congratulations again. One last thing Bregg Hanson, you know, 526 00:35:59.159 --> 00:36:02.000 he emailed me and I said, seriously, but you guys like run out 527 00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:08.679 of like worthy inductees. I like the depeste mode of the party Hall of 528 00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:14.440 Fame. Now, man, you're you're you're everybody. Look if you're talking 529 00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:17.440 about local sports, everybody knows who Tom Danny is. So so just take 530 00:36:17.480 --> 00:36:22.199 that and and and accept it. So you are our you are our Mick 531 00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:30.199 Jagger stuff. Thank you, Thanks about It's good good. I always like 532 00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:34.079 talking. So he's a funny dude there. And there are guys like that. 533 00:36:34.239 --> 00:36:36.599 You know, there's a whole lot of guys like that that you know, 534 00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:39.719 they didn't do one particular thing, right, they did weren't an All 535 00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:45.559 American or or played Major League baseball. They were just involved, yeah, 536 00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:50.320 right, just involved in sports for years and you just go. Everybody knows 537 00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:52.719 who they are everywhere, and and it's great that the that the Hall of 538 00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:55.400 Fame recognizes. You know, one of those guys that didn't play maybe he 539 00:36:55.400 --> 00:37:00.159 did play sports was Lopez uh Lipus, the announcer who's al upus. Right, 540 00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:04.880 he was just around. He's he's just been involved in sports in so 541 00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:08.719 many different ways. They think what would all that be if he hadn't been 542 00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:12.559 around, right, And Tom's one of those guys. Let's take a break. 543 00:37:12.599 --> 00:37:15.719 I want to talk about multi sports because you don't see that anymore. 544 00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:19.320 Yeah, and I obviously you're a good athlete. You want to play a 545 00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:22.639 lot, but it's mostly one sport guy, right, playing all around, 546 00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:24.800 all the round the year. Okay, stick around. We'll be back an 547 00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:29.440 Arizona Man's basketball fan. You know it's been successful for nearly forty years. 548 00:37:29.719 --> 00:37:31.559 Now. Take a look back at the Ludolsen era. In my new book, 549 00:37:31.719 --> 00:37:35.320 Lessons from Lut It was a labor of love through the eyes of twenty 550 00:37:35.320 --> 00:37:38.199 five former players, coaches and friends to give insight to the coach and the 551 00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:42.639 man who led them, competed against them, and inspired them. Twenty five 552 00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:46.159 chapters for his twenty five years as Arizona's beloved coach. Lessons from LUT is 553 00:37:46.159 --> 00:37:51.400 an insight to how he built the program into a national powerhouse. Want one 554 00:37:51.679 --> 00:37:55.880 email me at Steve dot RIVERA ninety five at gmail dot com. 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We have thirteen minutes. 578 00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:46.519 If you guys want to give us a quick call five two oh four 579 00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:51.880 one six seven four four zero talk to us about whatever you'd like to I 580 00:39:52.039 --> 00:39:53.920 kind of wanted to go with what Tom was talking about, the good old 581 00:39:53.960 --> 00:39:58.039 days, what we talked about, Jake uh And I assure you, one 582 00:39:58.079 --> 00:40:00.960 of those guys, you could play a lot of different things, not just 583 00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:05.639 one sport. In today's today's kids because of the parents, probably played one 584 00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:08.480 sport from August to August, right, And that's not a bad thing. 585 00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:15.599 It's just what it is. I'm gonna say it is just because you know, 586 00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:22.280 whether you're having fun or not, sports can be a grind. And 587 00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:23.960 when you're doing the same thing over and over and over again, I'm sorry, 588 00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:28.599 it just can't be. It just it just got It has to be 589 00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:35.880 hard to stay at a certain level and be good at something over and over 590 00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:38.840 and over again without getting burned out. I look, I've known I don't 591 00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:44.719 say a gazillion, but plenty of kids who are great athletes, great baseball 592 00:40:44.760 --> 00:40:49.119 players, great basket mostly baseball and basketball players. We're just great at those 593 00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:52.519 things. And then by the time they were finishing high school, they'd had 594 00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:55.480 it, they were tired of it because they played it a year ound. 595 00:40:55.519 --> 00:40:58.880 Now there are a lot of kids, as you know, you know, 596 00:40:59.079 --> 00:41:04.440 who were maybe you know, towards more of the elite category, who feel 597 00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:06.400 like, Okay, if I do this, I'll get to the NBA, 598 00:41:06.519 --> 00:41:07.800 or if I do this, I'll get to be a Major League Baseball player. 599 00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:10.440 Who can you know, who can stay with it and do it? 600 00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:15.960 And it takes a special kind of athlete to do that, to stick with 601 00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:22.280 it, But that's such a small percentage of of of athletes who are that 602 00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:28.559 good. Who can you know who can get there that you know, the 603 00:41:28.679 --> 00:41:32.559 vast majority of athletes who focus on one sport, they play the sport through 604 00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:37.679 high school and then they're done. Yeah, I think that that's a that's 605 00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:39.679 a factor of it. I won't disagree with you. It doesn't happen to 606 00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:43.599 all everybody, but it happens. Uh. The one thing I like about 607 00:41:43.639 --> 00:41:45.599 it is that you become a better teammate. You learn how to be a 608 00:41:45.639 --> 00:41:50.760 better teammate, not just with one sport but a lot of different And again, 609 00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:53.679 like I said before on the show, that you become a better team 610 00:41:53.760 --> 00:41:58.360 player. When we're the real road HiT's like for work, right, you 611 00:41:58.400 --> 00:42:00.760 know what it takes to be a team member to big things work well, 612 00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:07.800 or to succeed in the jump. Different sports required come with different types of 613 00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:10.559 challenges. Right, If you're in a baseball team, you have got to 614 00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:13.880 deal with the fact that if you're gonna lose some games, you're not going 615 00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:16.079 to undefeated. Right, You're gonna lose some games. You're gonna have to 616 00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:21.920 come back and and come back from losses, and you know you're gonna lose 617 00:42:21.960 --> 00:42:24.440 to teams that you don't think you should ever lose to those kinds of things. 618 00:42:24.440 --> 00:42:28.440 So that's one way. And then let's say you're in a great football 619 00:42:28.519 --> 00:42:30.519 you know, a great football program. Maybe that you do go undefeated, 620 00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:34.920 but now at some point you got to deal with a loss, and that 621 00:42:34.960 --> 00:42:38.440 loss feels different from a loss in baseball. Well, when I asked Ravo 622 00:42:38.559 --> 00:42:44.519 memories, is how did that first lost feel after all those wins that he 623 00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:47.400 had, And he said it was different, but it didn't defeat it right, 624 00:42:47.480 --> 00:42:50.599 right, it was like, you know, he had to figure out 625 00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:52.920 and that's how you know, you know, you know, you learn something 626 00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:55.960 about yourself. Now, basketball is kind of in the middle you know, 627 00:42:55.960 --> 00:42:59.440 if you're on a really good basketball team, you might only lose two or 628 00:42:59.440 --> 00:43:01.920 three games. Maybe you go into feed it, but mostly here was two 629 00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:06.320 three, four games. If you're if you're really good, and you have 630 00:43:06.400 --> 00:43:08.880 to still you have to deal with taking that loss and coming back the next 631 00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:14.639 day or the next game and being better and and so, you know, 632 00:43:14.960 --> 00:43:19.519 you learn different things by playing different sports. Let's also let's also realize that 633 00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:22.400 it only takes us, well not only it takes a special athlete, women, 634 00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:28.480 guys, whatever, to play all these different sports because you're you can't 635 00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:30.880 be good at all of them. You could be mediocre or whatever, and 636 00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:32.800 some some people can be, but most people aren't. But most people aren't. 637 00:43:32.800 --> 00:43:36.639 But it takes us specially. I knew a couple of those people who 638 00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:39.840 were fantastic in all the sports, and uh, they were just special dudes. 639 00:43:39.880 --> 00:43:42.840 I mean, there were just dudes who could play. You know when 640 00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:45.559 that comes to mind from from Rodney Pete. Yeah, okay, Rodney Pete, 641 00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:49.679 he was a great baseball player. I mean as a as a as 642 00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:54.119 a freshman in high school, he had pitched one game all season long, 643 00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:58.559 and he pitched the state championship game and won the game. What position do 644 00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:01.599 you play normally? I'll feel a thing. I don't know wherever he played, 645 00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:06.440 but he didn't. You brought him into win the game. He started 646 00:44:06.519 --> 00:44:08.719 the state championship game, but he didn't pitch all year. No, that's 647 00:44:08.760 --> 00:44:13.719 strange. But they knew he could. Yeah, they knew he could. 648 00:44:13.800 --> 00:44:15.760 Let's take this call. Hi, you're on the ar and eye on the 649 00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:17.840 ball. Hey, what up? Guys? Is there? Vic? I 650 00:44:17.880 --> 00:44:23.960 haven't heard from you since you were talking crap to me, So I want 651 00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:28.199 to chime in on this thing you're talking about. And uh, I guess 652 00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:32.079 I'll laugh both of you. So if you're the coach, whether it's high 653 00:44:32.119 --> 00:44:37.920 school or a high level travel ball team, and your star player misses to 654 00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:43.760 go play basketball, which is just he's doined for recreation or fun, what 655 00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:47.320 are you going to say? Good question? I say, I say, 656 00:44:49.239 --> 00:44:51.960 have at it. I have no problem with it. You have at it 657 00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:53.880 because that's his choice, not yours. Now if now, if my star 658 00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:58.880 player was missing to go to the movies, I have a problem with it. 659 00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:02.679 But if I've got a softball player who's really good and they're playing high 660 00:45:02.719 --> 00:45:07.519 school basketball and they're competing, I have zero problem you have to. Wasiit 661 00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:14.239 zero have a tournament like a national type tournament, and your star softball player 662 00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:21.280 says, hey, I got a high school basketball tournament or game. I 663 00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:24.280 don't know, VIC, you would do that. Is this a trick question 664 00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:28.840 or is there a right or wrong answer. There's no right or wrong answer. 665 00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:32.159 My my girls were pretty good basketball players. I told you guys. 666 00:45:32.199 --> 00:45:37.559 I did filming at them. They used to dribble with all the tough kids 667 00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:42.920 from Compton at the back of the bleachball practice was going on, and they 668 00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:47.239 were good. And when they went to go play high school basketball, their 669 00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:51.719 travel team coach said, you can go do it, but you guess what 670 00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:57.519 your scholarship is going to be given it up. Well, okay, and 671 00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:00.239 I know you're a travel ball coach, VIC, but I think that's bull 672 00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:06.039 crap. I really do. I think any coach that tells a player that 673 00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:09.519 can only play one sport is a bad coach, nother nor other way, 674 00:46:09.639 --> 00:46:14.679 no other way about. It's just you've got to be truthful with them. 675 00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:22.159 And I I find it hard to to have my star player leave to another 676 00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:28.480 sport where they're just kind of doing it for recreation, or how about how 677 00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:31.760 about doing seven and seven football. You you missed one of these tournaments, 678 00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:37.559 Uh, to go play recreational high school basketball. It's tough. It's it's 679 00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:40.400 a tough call. So so Vick, you you're around it along. I 680 00:46:40.400 --> 00:46:45.800 know you are, because you're your selfies out everywhere. So so do you 681 00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:49.800 see this happening more and more or less and less less and less? A 682 00:46:50.079 --> 00:46:53.719 kid that plays softball plays softball all year long. Kid that's gonna play, 683 00:46:54.199 --> 00:46:58.559 you know, like basketball all the trial, the tournaments are coming up this 684 00:46:58.639 --> 00:47:04.159 summer, there's you're getting recruited. There's not a kid that's gonna miss all 685 00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:09.840 those Vegas tournaments to go play seven on seven because he's a recreational football player 686 00:47:09.880 --> 00:47:13.880 in high school. But see what I'm talking about, VIC is like, 687 00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:16.599 let's say you've got a star softball player who you know, whatever, and 688 00:47:16.639 --> 00:47:21.000 they're on the basketball team at their high school and they're playing for their high 689 00:47:21.039 --> 00:47:24.159 school. I don't see how you can, you know, crap on him 690 00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:28.960 for doing that. I just don't. And again, but that's that's my 691 00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:32.280 strong opinion about how important I think it is to play more than one sport, 692 00:47:32.920 --> 00:47:40.159 because what's happening is you have in softball. You're having ball showcases and 693 00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:47.719 spring showcases to be seen. And like I said, you're just one of 694 00:47:47.760 --> 00:47:52.000 those who play basketball as well. In the winner, I think it should 695 00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:55.280 be up to the athlete and they say, Okay, I understand that I'm 696 00:47:55.360 --> 00:48:00.400 risking being seen or whatever, but it's important for me to go play on 697 00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:02.519 my basketball. Let's also let's all put this in perspective too, though. 698 00:48:02.519 --> 00:48:06.559 If you're that good, if you're that good and you're being seen by colleges 699 00:48:07.039 --> 00:48:09.000 like this, you know where your brothers they're gonna find you no matter what 700 00:48:09.159 --> 00:48:12.400 you well, you know where your ben and brother is and you probably do 701 00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:15.840 that sport. You know that they're not gonna sit no, but that I 702 00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:20.039 get they're gonna find you and and stuff. But if you're gonna miss because 703 00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:24.960 not everybody is uh is Ali Skaggs or Cardi scooping anywise, some of those 704 00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:28.559 are on the D two level. Jay, you got to remember, Hey, 705 00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:34.480 you're you're gonna lose scholarship because you didn't go to this showcasing it seem 706 00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:38.360 and it's not all. It's not all everybody Arizona U c l a good 707 00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:45.039 talking about UH West Texas or Western New Mexico or or or one of those 708 00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:49.239 schools. Yeah, no, I I I hear you, Vic, and 709 00:48:49.559 --> 00:48:53.239 I just I don't know. I just think there's I know it's not. 710 00:48:53.400 --> 00:48:58.239 It's not James Steve, it's not when we played and you played that callers 711 00:48:58.239 --> 00:49:00.519 there. Sure you go play little le in the summer. Yeah, then 712 00:49:00.559 --> 00:49:05.480 you go to Pop Warner in the fall, and then you know, if 713 00:49:05.480 --> 00:49:09.360 you're good enough, you play pick up basketball at some part. It ain't 714 00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:12.599 like that, no more, no, no, Hey, I'm a very 715 00:49:12.639 --> 00:49:15.320 believer in miliality sports. My kids only played soccer and they were halfway decent 716 00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:20.679 at it, so you know, and got a college scholarship. So whatever 717 00:49:20.920 --> 00:49:23.159 floats the boat, and it's usually the parents will helped float that boat, 718 00:49:23.360 --> 00:49:28.400 right and pay for the pay for the am I not right? Parents money? 719 00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:30.119 Yeah, of course the kids aren't getting there on their own, so 720 00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:34.599 you know that's a big decision. I mean, that's what my parents. 721 00:49:35.480 --> 00:49:38.320 Again. I've got a cousin that the star soccer player. She came in 722 00:49:38.719 --> 00:49:44.280 third in the state and go to the freshman and when she and she carried 723 00:49:44.320 --> 00:49:47.320 over into she played at MIKELH. Mountain, I'll tell you, and she 724 00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:52.519 carried over into softball, and the coach was like, well, you miss 725 00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:58.719 tryout, and then he was a STARTI shortstop two games later. Of course, 726 00:49:58.800 --> 00:50:00.360 well because she's good enough. No, absolutely, And look, I 727 00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:02.440 mean we we've heard all the stories, right, you know. There was 728 00:50:02.480 --> 00:50:06.880 a let's just say there was a south side coach who demanded that his football 729 00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:13.719 players only play football, and the and the best football player at that school 730 00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:15.920 was also a really good baseball player. Coach, you go play baseball, 731 00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:19.800 you can't play football. And guess what he did. He went and played 732 00:50:19.800 --> 00:50:23.119 baseball. So the coach was trying to tell him, if you play baseball, 733 00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:29.480 you know you're you're done, and and and so instead of instead of 734 00:50:29.519 --> 00:50:31.280 the players saying okay, I'll play football, he said, okay, I'm 735 00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:36.039 going to go play baseball. And and the best, the best quarterback at 736 00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:38.960 that school ended up only playing baseball because the coach wouldn't le him play fotball. 737 00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:45.079 But the point is, Jay, now it's not so much if we 738 00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:49.360 were just in high school, like back in the day, you could do 739 00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:52.599 that, or you could play football baseball you're long and and there was no 740 00:50:52.679 --> 00:50:59.519 compion. Now it's the travel world and thousands and thousands of dollars investment. 741 00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:05.639 Yeah, I hear you, I hear it. I've I've just been again 742 00:51:05.760 --> 00:51:07.480 you well, I've I've made it clear. You know, what I firmly 743 00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:12.639 believe in is that these these these athletes, the more sports they play, 744 00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:17.239 the better they are overall. And and again, the percentage of of athletes 745 00:51:17.239 --> 00:51:22.159 who get scholarships and who go on to higher levels and stuff like, it's 746 00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:27.800 so small that putting it all in that basket, I think is not a 747 00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:30.000 smart thing. I just don't think it is. So, Vic, what 748 00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:32.400 are you going to do this summer when you have nothing to complain about to 749 00:51:32.440 --> 00:51:40.480 me in the summer. Still, I'll still be whining and get your energy 750 00:51:40.519 --> 00:51:46.239 from football. Baby, I'll bring up I'll bring up some more rich No, 751 00:51:46.360 --> 00:51:52.880 I think you have more souther stories. Thanks. Thanks about you too, 752 00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:54.880 man. Yeah, you know, Vic and I are not going to 753 00:51:55.039 --> 00:51:58.519 agree, right, We're not. And that's fine. That's that's fine, 754 00:51:58.599 --> 00:52:00.880 you know. And and a coach there, the coach is going to do. 755 00:52:00.039 --> 00:52:01.800 Look, the coach is gonna do what he thinks is best for his 756 00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:05.159 team, and what do he thinks is best for the athletes. Now, 757 00:52:05.239 --> 00:52:08.559 and I understand that two hundred to the point of the football thing. The 758 00:52:08.599 --> 00:52:13.159 coach screwed himself, he did. And that's fine. That's because that kid 759 00:52:13.159 --> 00:52:15.920 could have done both. He realized. I'm sure he realized. You know, 760 00:52:15.159 --> 00:52:17.920 he called my bluff and blah blah blah. But yeah, that's too 761 00:52:17.960 --> 00:52:21.119 extreme. I mean, the coach is too extreme. Yeah. You know. 762 00:52:21.480 --> 00:52:23.719 There was another one that I know of where a coach a guy wanted 763 00:52:23.719 --> 00:52:29.320 to be in the band and the and the football coach said no. And 764 00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:31.679 then the player said, okay, and guess what he did. He joined 765 00:52:31.719 --> 00:52:36.679 the band. The band. Now he's a multi millionaire somewhere. The band. 766 00:52:37.199 --> 00:52:39.679 Okay, you go where your butter's bury? Do? You just go 767 00:52:39.760 --> 00:52:43.000 with what you love? And I think that, of course, that's the 768 00:52:43.079 --> 00:52:45.000 thing. And that's the thing. Too many kids or not. We gotta 769 00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:47.480 get out her because we'd love to get some commercials. All right, we'll 770 00:52:47.480 --> 00:52:50.800 be right back. Breaking is coming at the top of the hour.