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Welcome to you Softcore History. Hello, and welcome back to Softcore History.

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My name is Jake Goldman and I
am joined as always by my two lovely

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co hosts, the handsome Dan Rojester
ooh and the throw a curveball and say

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Rob. First being handsome, he
is a handsome fellow. Ah, I

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don't believe you in the hideous Rob. I'm kidding. I mean, I

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I think I'm okay looking, but
I don't believe that you believe that.

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I think you're pretty average. Dan's
gonna fade you no matter what. But

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for the Midwest, you're like a
Midwest eight. I'm a Saint Louis nine.

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Maybe I was about to see your
Lincoln eleven, and I'm like a

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Philly twelve. Yeah, that's true. You could be as long as you

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maintain your income and employment. You
could be in a wheelchair and you're you

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would be a Philly nine in Philly. You really have like three professional choices.

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It's bookie, of course, that's
number one. Illegal illegal book yeah

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right, and then drug dealer illegal
illegal, and aspiring professional wrestler legal well

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starts kind of illegal. Probably usually
starts illegal starts with yeah, yeah,

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I think it just starts with street
fights. Really, but yeah, we're

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a history podcast. We talk about
obscure, random stuff. We don't dive

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too hard into the details in the
sources because you know, we let other

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podcasts see that we're here to entertain. This is for the first time listeners.

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Yeah, this isstfully we have you
returning. I actually hope all the

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returning listeners are like, yo,
now they tell me what was this all

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about? Come out of here?
Yeah later if you want to hear more

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of this kind of content. We
actually have a Patreon channel. It's patreon

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dot com slash Software History. We
offer two extra episodes a week. We

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do a call in episode or a
voicemail episode if you want to ask your

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history questions in a normal episode.
Yeah, a normy one where we just

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you know, yeah exactly. Um, today we're gonna talk about something really

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cool. Guys. It's gonna be
really cool if it though it might not

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be, I wouldn't have played it
up. I always like to come in.

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I like to nag my own topics. Hey, yeah, you don't

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always at the bar on the ground, so it's easy to clease. It's

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going to be the most mailed in
topic you've ever heard in your life.

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If you're gonna fucking hate, it's
too late. History of Jake, the

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History of Me. Born May twentieth, nineteen ninety one in oh Califlorida.

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Have been row Regional Hospital off turn
off. Yeah, God, no it's

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not. It's not about me.
We're talking about a moment of mass hysteria,

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but not in a terrifying way or
a weird way more so or not

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in a terrifying way, I say, but in a weird way and kind

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of fun, actually fun hysteria.
Um. I love hysteria personally, and

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I have done an episode about you
know, the dancing plague back in the

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day that sounds fun but was not. It was like an OG episode.

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It was like their second or third
one. Recorded it on a tin can.

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Yes, way of talking to each
other through strings. Yeah, it

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was actually two cups in a string
and then there was a te and listening

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to those episodes because it shows how
far we've come. We could probably rehash

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a lot of them, we have
with William Walker, but we did run

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it back or whatever. It was
good. I was thinking about this though,

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the dancing plague hysteria, like we
always think of it as like,

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when I think of the dancing plague, I'm like, oh, there's probably

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music in my head. There's music
playing, and these people are dancing.

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It's terrifying because there was no music. I know, they're just like moving,

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like I refuse to believe that somebody
was playing a flute. No,

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they eventually had to make like a
place for them to dance with music so

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that no one was so freaked out. They're like, at least give him

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like a stage and some music,
because otherwise it's just a homeless man in

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San Francisco just bopping. Yeah,
and no one likes that. That's just

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terrifying. But we're not talking about
a dancing plague. To I, what

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if it was just a silent disco. Silent discos they're creepy if you don't

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have headphones, they're not even creepy. They're lamb. They are lamb.

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They're terrible. It's pretty stupid.
It'd be a funny place to murder.

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Some people would go to the silent
disco at Bonario while they're other shows that

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should be go to alive. End
should be you should go to that when

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everything else is done right like it
should be. If there's no other option.

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Yeah, baby, I'll go to
the silent disco, but I'd rather

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go to sleep. Yeah. I'd
rather just go back to the camp side

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can get fuck up? Yeah yeah, than to tell out my friends.

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Yeah, anything other than the silent
disco. You know what, I couldn't

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tell people. I'd be a shame
even if I went. I'd to like

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just to see you, just to
try it. You know, it's like

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kissing a guy like you'll you'll try, but you're not gonna tell people you

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tried it, right, Yeah,
of course I will say though. It

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was great though, you know,
they could have just had you know,

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like a stereo in a barn instead
of the silent disco in the barn or

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whatever that thing was. It was
like a shed, right. No.

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I like to disassociate from everybody that
I'm around. You don't need a silent

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disco to do that. I do
it at the gym every day, That's

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right. What's up? Well,
we're not talking about dancing plague, We're

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not talking about a silent disco.
We're talking about, um, something a

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little bit further east in China.
Oh okay, Oh, actually I did

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a mass the Steri episode as well
about the Choro panic where all those dudes

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thought they're fucking dicks were falling off. Oh yeah, shrinking into that.

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Yeah, we kind of love the
topic. And I don't think Jake was

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here for that. Oh was that? Oh that's right, Gabby filled in.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, but
I will say again, off my

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block, dude, both of you
what China China's mind? Well, you

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don't get this one. I'm sorry. I've done the last two China episodes,

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so I think I'm kind of I'm
kind of stealing your game. Well,

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I'm doing the most recent one,
so fuck you. But you're just

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the fucking ballers from San Andreas attacking
my turf. Yeah, and I need

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to like just kind of interject I'm
the Vatos, You're you're pointless. Nobody

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cared about the Vatos. Well I
was there anyway. During the onset of

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mass cultural period, the nation was
scripped by hysteria. What kind of hysteria,

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you might ask, Mango mania,
satisfy. It sounds like a kool

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Aid flavor fruit wars. It kind
of does, doesn't it. It's like

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a capris on Mango Mania. I
drank a capris on the other day.

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It kind of just sounds like a
flavor of bang energy. And they don't

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have the rights to a certain brand, so yeah, it was like mango

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mania. Yeah, like you know
how they do. They don't have the

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rights to say Skittles flavor, so
they say scedaddle, they rainbow poop,

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like yeah, your unicorn shit,
whatever the fuck they called that. Or

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they can't say Baja blasts, so
they're just like Baha refreshment, Glacier drip.

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They can still name it after Baja
California, they just gotta put a

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different adjective behind it or whatever the
fuck. Yeah, so it's just like

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Baha wave yes. So uh.
One byproduct of the Cultural Revolution was the

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formation of various pro mouse student groups
known as Red Guards across the country.

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In China during the rise of mao
oh, it's like Dumbledore's Army, but

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for communists, it's very much that
it's it's students, a lot of them.

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Um was a prerequisite for this job. You had to like prove that

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you could murder a sparrow. You
know, they don't talk about that,

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but you gotta think it was.
You gotta think like how how's your shot?

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Yeah, and if you can't do
it, like that scene in the

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Cicario sequel when the little kids like
gonna shoot benisil Do Toro in the face,

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but he can't do it, and
then Guy's like, okay, man,

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okay, and he takes the gun
and then he blows the kid's brains

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out, Like if you can't blow
if you can't blow the sparrow's brains out,

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someone fucking murders you and then hands
it to the next dude. It's

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kind of weird how things mau doesn't
like turn out to become such a thing,

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you know, because we're gonna it's
gonna be a He's not a big

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mango fan, He's not mouth doesn't
like fruit. By the way, did

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he die of scurvy? No?
But on land just yeah zero, he's

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the only person to ever get it
in the woods. Yeah no. Um.

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He famously just not like fruit.
Apparently. I know that, So

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Len's careful fruit that much. Either. I like fruit a lot. I

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like berries the most lower sugar,
low sugar, high flavor fruit. Bodybuilding

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dot Com has really kind of put
it in my head that fruit is actually

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terrible for you. Fruit is just
candy. Yeah, you're eating earth candy

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like you might a strawberry might as
well be like a bag of man I

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might as well be a Snickers nature
Snickers bar, as many dorks call it.

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I think, yeah, I think
I'll credit dave Off for that.

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Yeah, yeah, I think I
remember him saying a lot, oh,

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yes, the Snickers bar of nature. M yeah, um, yeah,

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I don't know what's what are your
top fruits? We actually had this discussion

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last night where we what's super engaging
party? Where you at? It was

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a it was a birthday party and
there's a bowl of watermelon and people were

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just dunking all over watermelon. Ramelon
sucks. Ramelon's fine. So Bush was

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defending it. Bush was like watermelons
the top three fruit. That is false.

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No, that's a lie. It
is a It is a situational fruit

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at best. Just give me like
raspberry blueberry, straw strawberry. Yeah,

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I'll go like, yeah, raspberry
blueberry. A frozen nanner can go a

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long way. Actually, do you
like? I like bananas? I like

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mango a lot. Frozen bananas are
great for smoothies. Student, But yeah,

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watermelon is not in it. Honeydew
is not in it. I can

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tell. Yeah, Melons are not
my favorite candle up with purscutto pretty good,

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but that's the meat doing the heavy
lifting. So one time you came

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over to our house with your wife
and you brought a prescutto wrapped candle ope,

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And I fucking hate cantleope. It
like I had at one time.

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It's one of the things you had
one time as a kid and you vomited

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and you can never have it again. Yeah, yeah, I'm that way

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with candle ope. But I didn't
want to be rude, and I just

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fucking shoved that candle ope in my
face. It'd be nice to you,

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but I was so mad at you. He actually had a scar and incident

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when he was thirteen years old.
He stuck his dick in a cantlope and

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got stuck. How to go to
the hospital. He imagine not being able

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to get a candleope. I got
trick. I was so it was like

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American pie. I was like,
what does the vagina feel like? They're

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like cold and hard and so so
I drilled a hole in a candle ope

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and fucked it. But then he
got stuck, and you know, candle

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hops known indestructible fruit. Yeah,
he had to go to the hospital to

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get it. Yeah, what happened? His weak, frail, soft hands

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couldn't break that candle? Ope.
I am a soft hands proudly so uh

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yeah, so like your soft hands. A lot of these kids were soft

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hands too. There are a lot
of ye like there's communist students. Of

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course, that's the softest hand imaginable. Though they shared the mouse ideology,

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the Red Guards often had violent in
your group rivalries. In nineteen sixty six,

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Mau had called on the student Red
Guards to rebel against reactionary authorities.

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His aim was to reshape society by
purging it of bourgeoisie elements in traditional ways

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of thinking. Is this their version
of just red dawn? No? No,

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well if the red part with the
red dawn wins, the red dawn

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becomes red day and the sun never
sets. Yeah. And you know there

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students right fighting reactionary It's it's all
internal. So it's not like someone's coming

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from are they fighting in nineteen sixty
even the Civil War over? Um,

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I think there's a power play going. Chen Kai check is yeah, it's

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probably a party power play. Yeah, it's not chen Kai check is fucking

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done. Taiwan is cut off.
I think at this they've all run to

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there at this point, I'm pretty
sure. Yeah, you can tell us

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we're wrong in the comments, Um, you don't, but don't do that.

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Well, we don't care. You
can say it though. Yeah.

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But by the summer of nineteen sixty
eight, the country had become engulfed in

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fighting as Red Guard factions competed for
pour So, yes, this is now

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the power vacuum power struggle at this
point. So they're just a bunch of

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boners trying to see who's in charge. Yeah, who's the lead? It's

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a sorry him, that's history,
Rob. Yeah, it's a bunch of

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boners trying to se use in charge. It sounds like present day for people

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trying to people trying to compete to
see to see who's the least bourgeois.

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Yeah, who's the least bougie?
Yeah yeah, m hm hmmm. We

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talking about certain group of people,
I'm talking about everyone. Yeah, because

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even like people had it hard,
even people that don't care will be like,

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well, hey I did, I
was pretty bit of class. So

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don't get everything I wanted for Christmas. They deserve everything, Rob, They

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deserve the world. But now everybody
in Congress as a boner I agree.

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Yeah. Uh. In the spring
of nineteen sixty eight, a conflict that

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came to be known as the Hundred
Day War erupted in Singhua University. In

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it, two groups of Red Guards, the Shingen Nasha Jinging Shan Core and

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the Force at more. Yeah,
I'm rooting for the Force. Just expt

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me for the other ones. You
have to say it more but um yeah.

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But anyway, they were hurtling spears, stones, and sulfuric acid at

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each other on the university grounds.
Pretty well, who who who's ever been

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in a fraternity hasn't gone to their
rival for attorney's house and just started throwing

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spears? Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean I've thrown bricks

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through windows. We've all thrown things
at a building. We shouldn't lit up

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a house with paintball guns. Ye
many times, went downstairs, got every

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single empty handle of alcohol I could
find and just made it rain glass for

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an hour into the courtyard. It's
like, oh, I thought you did

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that to your own house. I
know you did to the neighboring house.

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Yea yeah. It's like, oh, you're gonna throw one. That's cute.

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Here's one hundred and fifty Jesus.
Yeah, have fun anyway, and

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Joliet to end it right. You
gotta be like Truman at the end of

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World War two. Yeah, just
just drop it. He thought they thought

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I always, They thought I only
had two. I had one hundred and

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fifty. Yeah. Yeah um.
On July twenty seventh, nineteen sixty eight,

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mouse scent thirty thousand Beijing factory workers
who came to be known as the

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Worker This is my favorite name of
the entire group. They came to be

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known as the Worker Peasant. Mause
Doong thought, propaganda team. Nothing for

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short, that's the name of the
group. Oh really, it's it's the

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Worker present or the Worker Peasant.
Mause Doong thought, propaganda team. I

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will not call them anything else.
That is their name. Sweet yeah.

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Uh. He brought them in to
stop the conflict. Now is in Chinese?

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Is that like one character? And
at work it's actually just a straight

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line. Yeah, that's a yeah. Just this is a nice little fun

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thing. It's a box. It's
like a strong, sturdy box. Half

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a dozen workers were killed and over
seven hundred were wounded. This caused mouth

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by the student Falanx. Yes,
it was a bloody battle on a college,

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university campus. God, I that
would be so much fun to watch.

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It's just like two students, two
student groups murdering each other with spears

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while you just like drink a beer
on your front lawn and enjoy the chaos.

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I guess. Yeah, just hope
they don't cross the street to your

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house. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not so too. It's like

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all these students are trying to kill
each other. Then some factory workers come.

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They're getting killed. It's like,
all, who's the most important?

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Who's in charge? Are they trying
to But they're trying to be in charge

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of the university. They're just trying
to be in charge. It's all fighting

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formal. It's a gang fight.
Yeah, it's a gang fight. They're

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trying trying to wrap their boss.
Run this block now, well not really,

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but that's the funniest part about gangs, Like this is our block.

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Like well, I mean if they
send in the National Guard, it would

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be not your block in thirty seconds. But yeah, or even just a

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lot of police. Why that keeps
happening. It's it's yeah, it's you.

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You don't really own this block.
It's like a law man, just

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like the Rodney King riots. It's
like we own this street. It's like,

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all right, just play the wire
scene where he talks about playing chess.

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The what the wire scene where he's
just describing how to play chess.

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Oh yeah, you know what I
didn't know about the Rodney King ryots.

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By the way, a ton of
those Koreans were vets. Oh dude,

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I Koreans. They're the best though. Yeah, that's why they were efficient.

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Like, don't have a tactical position
here on the roof, We're gonna

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snipe everyone. Yeah, Like they
weren't just like dudes with guns, you

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know, like they were trained military
members. I think one of the things

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that a lot of people don't realize
about the Rodney King riots that Rodney King

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lived. A lot of people forget
that. Yeah, he's like, please

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stop heat. But also, most
Koreans that own a store have a gun

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as well. They should. Yeah, as well they should. If I

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own my own business, i'd have
a gun. You should. Yeah,

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I don't know why. I mean, we do have a shotgun right off

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camera there over there. Oh yeah, some fucking woo woo comes in and

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as to take us out. Fucking
lunatic not ever been a threat, not

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for our podcast. Okay, well
yeah, it's more of a daytime.

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It's your day job. That's a
shoot for the day job. Yeah,

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I forgot about that. Anyway,
all this violence cous mount to officially disband

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the Red Guards the next day,
in August fifth, nineteen sixty eight.

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The Foreign Minister of past hold,
I'm sorry. He was like, hey,

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guys, cut it out. The
spears were a lot. Yeah,

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we're done. Let's chill. We're
cool with the acid keep playing. Oh

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man, that's actually like that would
be my biggest nightmare if I traveled to

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another country, specifically Middle Eastern country
or North Korea acid attack, Like ya

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learn how to read the assassins.
They just blow it in your face like

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Taijii in wrestling. I don't miss. I think it's not powder. I

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think it's like a jar. It's
just acid in a cup. And I

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know it's probably in some stupid cup, but I still imagine like a beaker.

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It's not It might be, I
don't know, but it's just like

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he had to go to a lab. Excuse me, one acid? What's

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it for? Throwing out an educated
woman? Here you go? Yeah,

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well they understand it's the scientist is
in Pakistan too. Here this guy doesn't

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want to lose his job. Yeah. So, speaking of Pakistan on August

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fifth, nineteen sixty, I'm actually
surprised more people at like riots and protests

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here don't have acid. It's really
nice that they don't. They do throw

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chemical compounds on people. They throw
like a rubber cement or like quick cement

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on. Um. That's cheeky though, you know, yeah, fucked you

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up, But it doesn't melt your
half your face off like you're it's just

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hardest burns. Yeah, hurts a
lot. It burns, but it's not

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like it's not gonna change your life. You're not gonna be disfigured. I

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mean, I guess it could like
blind you if it gets in your yeah,

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I mean, if you don't want
to it can fuck you up.

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Yeah, But like, yeah,
it's not like That's the other thing.

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I'm like, where do these people
get this acid? Maybe acid just laying

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around? Well, who's laying all
these bricks, even the bricks out,

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who's doing it? Who's leaving the
bricks out? By the way, if

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you go to home depot, brick
costs like a dollar, So bricks are

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chief if you want to know how
much a paletta brick costs, how many

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bricks are in the palette. I
kind of just want to buy it,

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and in fact, you probably get
a discount. It's called bulk. Try

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it. It's not very excited.
I remember my buddy was like, who

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funded this? And I was like, I don't any haul trucks like thirty

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dollars a day just loaded up with
brick. It is funny, man,

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it's not that much. Capitalism kind
of helps the brick fund. It's like,

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oh, if you buy in bulk, if you buy a lot,

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consume more. Yeah, you gets
you boys, have fun at your ryot

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this. We'll be here with the
bricks. It's say way like I would

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buy eggs in high school to egg
and the cashier would just be like,

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Mom, that's yeah. Just shut
the fuck up. Just just I have

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to. I can't not sell this
to you. I guess I mean I

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could, but I'm just gonna give
it to you. But fuck you,

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fuck you kids, fuck you.
Yeah, we were like new dude,

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someone should have just beat the shit
out of us in line at the store.

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I agree, teenagers seem to be
put in line. Teenagers like a

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good ass whooping Okay, I agree, eighteen good age for adult whatever,

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Right, you gotta draw a line
somewhere, Yeah, for sure, But

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I feel like for getting your ass
kicked. Like if a teenagers be like

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a fifteen year old, it's being
a real smart ass, and like step

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into a grown man man just decides
to punch him in the mouth. Yeah,

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shouldn't get charged for assaulting a minor? No, that's like no,

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I'm just many actually, honestly,
depending on the judgement the size of the

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fifteen year old, here's a happy
compromise. You can beat up fourteen and

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fifteen year olds, but you have
to do it two at a time.

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It's gotta be a handicap match.
I think most people would lose that fight.

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I would agree, Yeah, like
most adults would lose that fight.

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I'd lose that fight. Yeah,
I couldn't take two fifteen year olds?

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Are you kidding me? I think
I got it. I don't think you

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do. Depends on the fifteen year
old. Yeah, absolutely, I've seen

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these fifteen year olds these days.
I got it. They are smaller than

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they used to be unless they're on
trend. They might be on trend,

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but then they still can't fight you
don't know who you're drawn. If you

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draw two skater kids, you're gonna
die. True. Yeah, the skater

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kids would terrify me. Yeah,
and honestly, even like I'm gonna go

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down swinging, but two lacrosse players, you know whatever, probably fuck you

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up. Normal running the No fifteen
year olds I'm taking too, But I'm

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saying it's just even it out,
making a fair fight not be charged with

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assualt of a minor. I it's
just like there's a video of some kid

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just going up to some guy just
fuck you, old man, like shoving

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him and something like guy just throws
him to the ground, and like someone's

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like, you can't do that.
He's a kid. It's like I think

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he could do it. You're not
gonna toss somebody, right, Yeah,

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like yeah, the kids pushing him, Yeah, let him throw the kid.

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That's why I when I see like
pushing to me is an entirely separate

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thing from other forms of physical contact. That's what he told the police about

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his wife. Yeah like, no, no, officer, I pushed her.

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Yeah, she felt my fist into
the knife wall. This damn knife

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wall she decorates the house. I
didn't put it there. Yeah, I

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don't know, man. She said
she saw it on Pinterest or something.

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I don't I don't know. I
wasn't listening. Yeah, yeah, Well,

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and then she crawled in the fireplace
to heal, and I was like,

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you know what, I'm just just
is I'm done, Todd. We'll

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talk in the morning. It's a
little cold. Yeah, and now I

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don't know. She's a pile of
ashes. Weird. Well, on August

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her choice, are you saying women
don't have agency offers? You're never gonna

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find out about these mangoes? Here's
the one with the twenty minute fucking background

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story on spear chucking. It's in
Chinese in this side. It sets up

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the story. Alright, alright,
but I do. I'm just saying it

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was what if it just she never
gets back to it. Jake has all

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this set up and it's just nope. Not. The joke is that there's

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no mango talk at all. Well. On August n nineteen sixty eight,

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the Foreign Minister of Pakistan visited Mao
and gifted him a box of mangoes.

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Did he know? Do you know
him? MoU didn't like him like fruit

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in general? Probably not, didn't
He didn't do it. I wouldn't call

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it oppo research, I guess,
but like there wasn't a staffer that was

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like, hey, just so you
know, Mal likes gold. Yeah,

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Mao only likes gold, only eats
pork. Yeah, it's not like a

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fuck you Mal, I got you
a box of mangoes. No. I

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think it was just like they didn't
really have mangoes, and he's like,

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we have mangoes here you go.
Pakistan does apparently, I don't know.

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Maybe you don't know where most fruit
or maybe you got him from somewhere else.

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I don't know. I honestly couldn't
tell you anything about Pakistan. Next

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to India, I get that,
and I would never want to go to

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India. I would go to India
a thousand times before I went to Pakistan

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once. Yeah. Probably it's just
too crowded, man, that's there's too

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many people. Nothing. Nothing is
more insane to me than watching videos of

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trains in India, Like that's just
how they operate their lives there, and

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then you have the police push them
in. Yeah. Would I mean like

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all the people on the roof and
they're just like, yeah, we get

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on the roof of the train.
That's what we do. You have you

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ever seen traffic patterns in India?
No, I'm sure isn't any I wonder,

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honestly, I wonder if there's people
in Afghanistan trying to cling onto the

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plane where just like maybe it's like
a train. I don't know. Like

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the only time I want to be
on top of a train is if I

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was like an operative and I had
to chase another man. I think you've

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failed spectacularly. Oh if your operation
has gone to the roof of a train

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one hundred percent, because it's like
that whole Archer bit where immediately you get

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blasted in the eye. Oh yeah, yeah, which just debris. He's

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like, it's like this the worst
that's true. You're gonna die on top

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of the train. Yeah. The
wind's gonna blow you, yeah, clean

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off. So yeah. Mao's given
this box of mangoes by the Foreign Minister

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of Pakistan. Mao decides to give
them to the workers stationed at the university.

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His refusal to eat the fruit himself
because he fucking doesn't like fruit,

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was not seen as Oh, Mao
doesn't like mangoes. It was seen as

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a personal sacrifice for the benefit of
the workers. People people saw him not

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partaking in the mango eating. They're
like, oh my god, he's not

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bourgeois. These are so good and
he's not eating them. Yeah, man

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of the people. He's a man
of the people. You can have the

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mangoes. The workers believe that the
mangoes were symbolic of Mao's gratefulness. The

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gift of the fruits coincided with the
transfer of the cultural Revolution stewardship from China's

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intelligista or intelligent fuck intelligent intelligent.
Okay, I'll say there, you can

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think it through. Um, that's
what I do with my Crown's disease.

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Though. If I don't want if
I don't want to eat something, yeah,

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I'm just like, oh no,
obviously my crones and everything, but

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like more beans for you. Yeah, you have the cheese, you have

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it. Yeah, that's actually people
don't know. That's what Jesus really did.

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When he was handing out all those
fish. He was like, what

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is this cod and then we just
gave it to people. Yeah, I

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don't want this ship waiverless fish.
Yeah. We haven't invented deep frying yet,

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right, you haven't invented spices.
Really, Yeah, I think I

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think I think the lavant had both. They had frying and didn't have like

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a industrial deep fryar. But we
probably had pan frying pan frying. I'm

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sure you know it wasn't. They
weren't liberally seasoned in their fish. They

403
00:26:33,519 --> 00:26:37,079
were breading it, that's for sure, which is crazy. They could have

404
00:26:37,519 --> 00:26:40,160
they probably they had the tech for
breading. They had everything they needed.

405
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:44,039
They had brett, they had bread, had eggs, oil, eggwash oil.

406
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,240
When was the first thing breaded and
fried? That's what it ships on

407
00:26:48,319 --> 00:26:52,440
my episode on it was actually a
Maggianos in eighteen hundreds. It's the Ramon's

408
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,960
Macaroni girl. And anyway, this
was a transfer because he gave all these

409
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,559
mangoes to the workers that he had
brought in. It was kind of like

410
00:27:00,599 --> 00:27:04,359
a whoa, he likes the workers
more than the students. He gave these

411
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:08,599
to us. He didn't even need
any, so he they thought he preferred

412
00:27:08,599 --> 00:27:11,720
the workers over the students. Yes, because he gave the workers that he

413
00:27:11,759 --> 00:27:17,559
brought in the I'm sorry, yeah, man of the people blew the real

414
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,119
rust belt guy because he gets the
youth. He gets it because he gave

415
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:26,400
the worker peasant mouse Don fought propaganda
team the Mingos. What's funny is if

416
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,880
you're from an area where someone is
a lot of and you're not one of

417
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:37,119
them, I feel like you're equally
likely to fucking hate those people as you

418
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,200
are to like them. Whether it's
like, yeah, I grew I grew

419
00:27:41,279 --> 00:27:42,720
up in Cleveland, you know,
or I grew up in Pittsburgh, right

420
00:27:42,759 --> 00:27:45,680
like I didn't. But listen,
like, oh, I grew up in

421
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,039
Pittsburgh, so I'm all about steel
workers. But if your dad was like

422
00:27:49,559 --> 00:27:55,079
a fucking bank ceo and you grew
up in Pittsburgh, you might think those

423
00:27:55,119 --> 00:28:00,960
fucking rough hands are like annoying and
stupid French fries and they're sandwich and getting

424
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:04,759
drunk at Steelers games. Do you
think the Rooneyes think the Rooneys like Steelers

425
00:28:04,839 --> 00:28:08,680
fans? Do you think that's who
they want? No, I'll give you

426
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,000
a great example of that. Anyone
that grows up near a fucking military base,

427
00:28:14,559 --> 00:28:18,160
you think, do you think they
like that they're flagwavers? No?

428
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,759
You mean these guys that are all
just torked up and fucking angry, get

429
00:28:22,799 --> 00:28:25,240
drunk in the bars that I go
to and fight me. Yeah, No,

430
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,839
I don't like them I could also
have another obvious example, South Black

431
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,559
Well, Jake. No one lives
around black people more than people from the

432
00:28:33,599 --> 00:28:37,960
South. Where they Why are all
these nineteen year olds getting married to military

433
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,599
guys, then if they don't lack
them, military guys aren't beating up the

434
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,680
nineteen year old girls. They're getting
Benni's dude, they're getting married. They're

435
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:52,079
getting that Dodge charger on that thirty
six percent APR. I mean, how

436
00:28:52,119 --> 00:28:56,640
many people in where's Forthood? Somewhere
in Texas? It's I think it's clean

437
00:28:56,839 --> 00:29:02,480
Colleen, Yeah, I mean that's
yeah, I guess. I guess the

438
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,960
Kaleen teenagers are marrying the only employed
people in Kaleen. There's a lot of

439
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,599
dead folks. Turn it up around
that Forthood. At this point, it's

440
00:29:11,599 --> 00:29:14,880
probably safer to be deployed in Afghanistan
than forth Hood. Yeah. I don't

441
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,759
know what's going on over there,
but it's not good. Yeah. Anyway,

442
00:29:17,799 --> 00:29:21,079
the mango foreig into the Chinese,
a lot of them hadn't had one

443
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:26,000
yet. Now a symbol of self
ascent for the workers, taking their own

444
00:29:26,079 --> 00:29:30,079
destinies into play and being in the
forefront of a conversation of national power.

445
00:29:30,319 --> 00:29:34,319
Sure, the uh. I believe
the pineapple is in the English royal family's

446
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:41,920
crest that is obviously not native pineapples
deserved unreal to kind of to shine the

447
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:47,960
UK. But when when that the
current royal family, I think it's came

448
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,960
to power. The pineapple was like
new to England and was super expensive.

449
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,359
It was it was a wealth status
situation. Pineapples are pretty much responsible for

450
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:02,480
what we did to Hawaii. Yeah, you know hard fruit wars, fruit

451
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:07,279
wars. Every time you eat a
dull banana, you are unwrapping the bones

452
00:30:07,319 --> 00:30:11,880
of a thousand Hawaiians. Yeah,
every time you eat a banana, you

453
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:22,400
are single handedly funding a CI operation. The Central American democratically elected remount of

454
00:30:22,519 --> 00:30:26,440
the amount of shit, the amount
of death that fruit is responsible for.

455
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,559
And we've covered it on patreon dot
com slash software history anyway, man,

456
00:30:32,599 --> 00:30:36,799
I assume if this helped get Mao
into power, fruit just added like fifty

457
00:30:36,839 --> 00:30:41,759
million bodies to the fucking Yeah.
Right, here's the thing, Uh,

458
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,960
what's the fruit? You've never eaten? Fruit? I've never would be kind

459
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,440
of a ridiculous statement to say.
I feel like like I like, oh,

460
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,200
everyone's done it, Okay, you
just never got around to it.

461
00:30:55,359 --> 00:31:00,720
I've eaten. I can't think of
one. Your dad got them? Damn,

462
00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:04,920
dude, is there one that's on
top of your mind? Daniel,

463
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:11,000
I've never eaten a BlackBerry? What
you mean, never eat black that's like

464
00:31:11,039 --> 00:31:15,079
you mean like a raw BlackBerry.
You've probably had BlackBerry in something. No,

465
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,119
you just never had liked a black
marry compop. I've never had a

466
00:31:18,119 --> 00:31:23,839
BlackBerry comp BlackBerry cobbler sorts. No, you're a fruit pie guy. You're

467
00:31:23,839 --> 00:31:27,759
a liar. Why yeah, you
you? But you have the pie taste

468
00:31:27,759 --> 00:31:30,240
of a fucking five year old.
You're right, like your face. Isn't

469
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:37,200
your favorite just chocolate pie? No, it's like turtle oh, chocolate chocolates.

470
00:31:38,119 --> 00:31:41,400
It's like what a baby eats,
baby pie. Just go to the

471
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:47,200
frozen section in the grocery store.
Get yourself a frozen pie. Just like

472
00:31:47,519 --> 00:31:51,599
how I know your back putting in
a crust. I will willingly say I

473
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,920
have terrible pie taste because you don't
even like pecan? Do you like?

474
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,559
Do you know? Actually I like
pumpkin too. Oh, but they just

475
00:31:59,599 --> 00:32:01,839
it's just anything fruity like apple pie. I don't know, I don't like

476
00:32:01,839 --> 00:32:05,920
appie. Apple pie is probably pushing
it for you. Imagine the fruity level

477
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,680
of pie. Like, that's probably
I don't like apple pie. I think

478
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:15,000
it's fine pie. Chypie is good. Um. The people that are absolute

479
00:32:15,039 --> 00:32:17,799
psychos are the ones with the cheese
on the apple pie. Big fan of

480
00:32:17,839 --> 00:32:22,240
the cream, the American cheese.
Yeah. Anyway, mango starts mystifying everybody

481
00:32:22,279 --> 00:32:29,039
because they're like oooh, maw ooh, the symbol, this tastes good.

482
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,160
I mean, wait, it's like
it becomes a symbol for a mile,

483
00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:35,160
the same way like the fish was
a symbol for Jesus. Christians would do

484
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,319
the easy little fish drawing. And
yes, obviously, like I said,

485
00:32:38,319 --> 00:32:42,319
the pine apple in the fucking royal
family. It's something that people to this

486
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,519
day still talk about with mangoes,
and they're like, hey, why don't

487
00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:50,839
kids like mangoes anymore? Don't they
know? Like I'm not choking. People

488
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,720
get mad about it. Sounds like
a Fox News article the kids. It's

489
00:32:52,759 --> 00:32:57,119
a bad sign when the children don't
like apple pie. Uh. No one

490
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,920
in northern China at that point knew
what mangoes worse. The workers stayed up

491
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,440
all night looking at them, smelling
them, caressing, the mangoes and wondering

492
00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:08,880
what the magical fruit was. At
the same time, they had received a

493
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:15,640
high directive from Chairman Mao, seeing
that henceforth the working class must exercise leadership

494
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,000
and everything. I guess that kind
of makes sense though, Like how many

495
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:22,720
things are orange, Well, mangoes
are like green on the outside, greenish,

496
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,839
orangeish, and their orange on the
inside. Yes, I don't understand

497
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:30,920
this at all. I feel like
if you took these strange foreign fruits to

498
00:33:31,039 --> 00:33:38,720
like the America's equivalent of confused backwoods
people, like they would just ferment it

499
00:33:38,759 --> 00:33:43,559
immediately. Well, first off,
some asshole would be I'll try to shit

500
00:33:44,319 --> 00:33:47,559
like take a Bible reportinist you try
to reportingis or not? Like, wouldn't

501
00:33:47,599 --> 00:33:52,519
even think fucking twice, Like,
they wouldn't be like h or turning a

502
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,319
dip. Yeah. And then and
then, like I said, they would

503
00:33:54,319 --> 00:33:59,519
squeeze this juice into my skull cans. They would. They would make fucking

504
00:33:59,559 --> 00:34:00,960
shine out of it. Yeah,
they would amount a thousand percent, make

505
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,759
moonshine out of it. Yes,
they'd be like, what's the sugar content

506
00:34:04,839 --> 00:34:07,480
of this? I can't possibly imagine
a redneck like I get, of course,

507
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:12,719
imagine a redneck being confused. I
cannot imagine a redneck being reticent.

508
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,360
No, you know what I mean. I'm sorry, you're talking about the

509
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:21,360
people that stick their arms into the
side of the riverbanks to noodle fish out

510
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,199
of thee. No, it's not
happening. We're not holding back. No,

511
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:28,679
but these guys are like, what
is it? Huh? They're correct,

512
00:34:29,079 --> 00:34:30,960
And just the image of a Chinese
worker going through a war with a

513
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:36,440
bunch of university students getting a mango
from a guy and then be like,

514
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:43,000
oh, we're like petting it like
that. It tells me how like entrenched

515
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,760
and like how much mind war was
going on to in China at the time,

516
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:51,159
which I wouldn't even do that.
If I, let's say tomorrow a

517
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,280
fucking stargate is invented, was an
alien came down and like gave you a

518
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,119
fruit, yeah, I would at
least be like, I crack it open,

519
00:34:58,199 --> 00:35:00,239
you know, or like I we
go to an alien planet and there's

520
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:01,360
fruit, I'd be like, I
wouldn't eat it. I'm not insane,

521
00:35:01,679 --> 00:35:04,480
right, but I would. I'd
be like, Okay, I think this

522
00:35:04,559 --> 00:35:06,840
is fruit. Let's crack it open
and see see what it looks. Like

523
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:13,199
i'd be like a fucking finger around, Like it's not like a fucking snake

524
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,559
thing, like those idiots and Prometheus
that like a snake. There's like a

525
00:35:15,639 --> 00:35:20,360
snake and they're just like, oh, yeah, it's an alien snake.

526
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,559
You don't know where the fuck you
are in the universe. And you're like,

527
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,920
I think it likes me. No, it doesn't, It never does,

528
00:35:25,079 --> 00:35:28,800
it never will. I wouldn't do
that with a snake on Earth.

529
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:30,920
Yeah, you do with a snake
on a fucking alien planet. No,

530
00:35:31,119 --> 00:35:35,440
dum, Yeah, that's just venom. Yeah, Like what's wrong with you?

531
00:35:36,159 --> 00:35:38,079
It was very exciting for these people
to be given this kind of recognition

532
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,320
with the Mangoes, I guess for
the first time in a long history of

533
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,280
being war fodder for China too,
so like they took it as like,

534
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,480
oh, it's like the sock for
Dobby. Yeah. The only fruit they've

535
00:35:47,519 --> 00:35:52,400
been eating most of their love in
their like family history is grape shot.

536
00:35:52,480 --> 00:36:01,559
Fuck go Chin is a freeman,
Dobby, It's what he said. He

537
00:36:01,559 --> 00:36:07,559
said, it's like the Sockford Dobby. The Mangoes like, I'm a freeman.

538
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,920
Yeah is free? Uh. This
power shift from the power leaving the

539
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:15,039
students and going to the workers and
peasants. Um offered respite for the anarchy

540
00:36:15,079 --> 00:36:17,599
of the fight too, Like I
think a lot of people settled down for

541
00:36:17,639 --> 00:36:21,639
some reason. Probably just a bunch
of people got their asses kicked. They're

542
00:36:21,639 --> 00:36:27,639
like, we're tired, they're not
soldiers, keep fighting back like crazy to

543
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,519
Some people in Beijing said that they
perceived that Mao had finally intervened in the

544
00:36:31,559 --> 00:36:36,920
chaotic random violence and that the mango
symbolized the end of the cultural revolution.

545
00:36:37,119 --> 00:36:39,519
But he was literally just like fuck
this fruit. He didn't want the fruit.

546
00:36:40,519 --> 00:36:45,559
He caught a box of mangoes,
like the glorious butterfly effect. That's

547
00:36:45,559 --> 00:36:52,360
when it's it gets crazier. So
Uh. Xen Quie, a worker who

548
00:36:52,559 --> 00:36:57,079
occupied Qing, how says that the
arrival of one of Mao's mangoes at his

549
00:36:57,159 --> 00:37:02,239
workplace prompted intense to bait the military
representative came a quote him. The military

550
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:07,159
representative came into our factory with a
mango raised in both hands, so like

551
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:13,039
simba, yeah, in front of
the uh. We discussed what to do

552
00:37:13,079 --> 00:37:15,280
with it, whether to split it
among us and eat it or preserve it.

553
00:37:15,519 --> 00:37:20,679
We finally decided to preserve it.
We found a hospital and we had

554
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,000
them put it in for mal to
hide for us. So they treat it

555
00:37:23,039 --> 00:37:28,920
like it's Lenin's body. Yeah,
so so the Anians Lennon's body. And

556
00:37:29,159 --> 00:37:37,440
China has this fucking mango yea,
Mao's mango, Mao's mango. It's gotta

557
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:42,360
be up there. That's gotta be
a Chinese kool Aid flavor, right,

558
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,639
yeah, mango, Mao Mao mango
mal mango, Mango mal mango. Do

559
00:37:46,639 --> 00:37:52,039
you think it's like Florida where they
just every other billboard is for oranges.

560
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:57,360
You got a problem with oranges,
bro, Nothing but mango signs. They

561
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,400
are growing them, are they No, they're not growing them. They just

562
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:05,519
have like the mangoes are like a
special thing. It's like it became I

563
00:38:05,559 --> 00:38:07,800
think Mao realized, Oh shit,
they like yeah, but they for sure

564
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,159
have like fake shops like North Korea. Right, It's like, oh yeah,

565
00:38:10,159 --> 00:38:14,159
this is us. Look we are
doing. This is funny too,

566
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:19,559
because it's like this is like I
assume, like a food of national import

567
00:38:19,679 --> 00:38:24,400
now right, Yeah, it's very
so imagine if like imagine of like turkeys

568
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,920
weren't native to North America, but
we still have them for Thanksgiving, like

569
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,000
turkey was like the ultimate American family
meal. I'm sure. But then they

570
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:36,400
figured out how to grow them.
At some point there should be a part

571
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:37,760
of China where you can grow mangos. But what if it's be amazing if

572
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,639
they were the bird of our enemy. So we're just roasting it. It's

573
00:38:40,639 --> 00:38:45,679
like Russia's bird is the turkeys that
would be sick that we should we Yeah,

574
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:52,679
every our enemies bird. Everything's giving. We have Russian condor. It's

575
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:58,440
yeah, it stays like shit.
Spike birds, yes, spike meals.

576
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,880
Uh. The second to bear for
Russia, right, I guess it would

577
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:05,880
be a bear. Ye. And
also I've seen people like I've seen YouTube

578
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,360
videos of people barbecuing bear meat.
Yeah, people eat bear. I don't

579
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,440
think I have any desire to eat
bear. No, it would eat bear.

580
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,039
I would try if it was around. Yeah, I'm not going out

581
00:39:15,039 --> 00:39:17,199
of my way to get it.
I want a talented bear, though,

582
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:22,880
I want like a bear that's riding
a motorcycle. Yeah, okay, he

583
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,360
needs to be talented. I think
that bear is gonna be a bit emaciated.

584
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:29,519
I don't think it's gonna have the
diet you want. You would think

585
00:39:30,519 --> 00:39:36,480
he should be well fed in Russia
and taking care of in the Russian circus

586
00:39:36,599 --> 00:39:39,760
compared to like a normal Russian bear. I would think, you know something

587
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:45,280
that they're getting, they're monitor monetized
bear. You gotta keep them healthy.

588
00:39:45,559 --> 00:39:47,639
I guess yeah, you don't want
them, like, because if you got

589
00:39:47,639 --> 00:39:51,440
to train a new bear, that's
time out, you know, it's too

590
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,159
much time. Yeah, it's like
it's like they would say, like it's

591
00:39:53,159 --> 00:39:57,639
it's more expensive to acquire a new
customer or train a new employee than it

592
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,159
is to retain an employee. Same
with the bear. It's it's more expensive

593
00:40:01,199 --> 00:40:06,920
to train a new bear than to
retain a bear. That's why the magicians

594
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,039
the tigers, they didn't put they
didn't put the tiger down, right,

595
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,039
because it's like it's more Oh,
they didn't want to put it down.

596
00:40:13,159 --> 00:40:15,079
Yeah. I don't know, and
I don't think they did. I think

597
00:40:15,119 --> 00:40:19,920
it would be unfair to the you
know, the tiger, the wild animal,

598
00:40:20,159 --> 00:40:22,480
giant feeline. It's like, oh, it's the one time it did

599
00:40:22,519 --> 00:40:27,599
tiger. Shit, you're gonna kill
it. Come on, it did tiger

600
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,280
one time. Yeah, but also
again, you don't have to train a

601
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,840
new tiger. That's too much time. Yeah, you know this one goes

602
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:37,159
on past. Yeah. Yeah,
the new Tiger's gonna do Tiger stuff way

603
00:40:37,159 --> 00:40:40,239
more than that. They for sure
didn't put down um the fucking killer.

604
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:45,840
Well at sea World, did it
kill someone or something? Tentacom or whatever

605
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,480
the fuck his name is. It
killed a lot of trainers, a lot.

606
00:40:49,639 --> 00:40:54,400
Yeah, it was it blackfin or
blackfish? Yeah, blackish, blackfish,

607
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,840
black or black I don't know.
Yeah, but like the main attraction

608
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,519
of sea World for a while.
He killed a couple. He had a

609
00:41:00,519 --> 00:41:04,480
body account. He's got a body
count. Huh weird. The what was

610
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,760
that whale calling him? What kind
of whale killer whale? Oh? Weird?

611
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,519
Weird. Um. Yeah. So
the second thing they decided to do

612
00:41:09,599 --> 00:41:13,639
was to make wax mangoes. Wax
mangoes, each with a glass cover.

613
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,639
After they made the wax for applicas, they would give one to each of

614
00:41:16,639 --> 00:41:22,039
the revolutionary workers. So it's like
they realize that the mangoes we're gonna last

615
00:41:22,039 --> 00:41:24,559
forever. So it's like you need
a commemorative me kind of like your hisman.

616
00:41:24,599 --> 00:41:28,800
You know, your school gets one
and there's the real one and you

617
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,719
get one. Okay, So like
Yeah, at work. There's the real

618
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:36,119
mango in the fromouta. Which one
does the NCAA take. I don't know.

619
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:42,039
Actually, so what you're saying is
that Reggie Bush doesn't have his Highsman,

620
00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:45,719
but USC has Reggie Bush's higman,
right do they? I don't know.

621
00:41:45,159 --> 00:41:47,480
That's actually a really good The USC
shouldn't be able to have it.

622
00:41:47,559 --> 00:41:51,559
Also, did they just approach Reggie
Bush? They go to his house,

623
00:41:51,639 --> 00:41:53,199
knock on the door, but give
it back. Take, We're gonna take

624
00:41:53,199 --> 00:41:57,320
that. I also don't understand how
then has any point place to do that,

625
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,159
because the nc DOUBLEA doesn't give that
trophy, like a search warrant for

626
00:42:00,199 --> 00:42:08,000
Reggie Bush's house. I don't think
through his closet. Do you sign a

627
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,719
contract where it's like the Hyping Foundation
is like, we take this back at

628
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:15,800
anytime. Academy Awards has like a
weird thing with the Academy Awards where after

629
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,519
the person dies they have to sell
it back to the Academy for a dollar

630
00:42:19,639 --> 00:42:22,679
their family does. Yeah, because
they got to melt down that award for

631
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:27,719
more awards. Yeah. Gold is
a finite resource. Yeah. In Hollywood

632
00:42:28,039 --> 00:42:32,000
famously doesn't have money. Um,
yeah, so workers are expected to hold

633
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:37,320
the sacred fruit solemnly and reverently,
and we're admonished if they failed to do

634
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,079
so. So you gotta have some
respect for the mango as well. It's

635
00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:45,920
like now a real symbol of national
pride because Mau doesn't like me. They

636
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,599
have to hold it reverently though,
Yeah, you can't, you can't.

637
00:42:47,679 --> 00:42:52,679
Like last Days is an atheist country, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah,

638
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,719
Reggie, they are. Yeah.
Yeah, there's no such thing like

639
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,920
I've like further, I've just been
coming further and further convinced that, like

640
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:05,239
there is no such thing as not
having a religion. No, you just

641
00:43:05,559 --> 00:43:08,679
you just hold something up higher at
a certain point. Yeah, Like there's

642
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,320
something that you're gonna get mad at
if people aren't nice about it. It

643
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,920
could be anything. It doesn't even
have to be something important. A lot

644
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,760
for a lot of people, it's
they replaced them morality with politics. But

645
00:43:19,039 --> 00:43:22,960
honestly a lot of people just take
their meaning in life from like being a

646
00:43:23,079 --> 00:43:28,119
Jets fan or something, you know
what I mean? Yeah, No,

647
00:43:28,199 --> 00:43:35,360
I mean you way more meaningful really, yes, these days purpose? Yeah.

648
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:40,039
I grew up around yeah, whatever
geographical location. I was born in

649
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:45,719
the team that plays in the meadowlands
across the river. Yeah, in a

650
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,719
different state, or like their kids. A lot of people are creepy about

651
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,920
their kids. That becomes their religion. It's just like their fucking children,

652
00:43:52,239 --> 00:44:00,599
yes, which like they are fucking
children. Probably well, pikes, well

653
00:44:00,679 --> 00:44:05,480
if you love it. Speaking of
wing wing joo, paying, an employee

654
00:44:05,519 --> 00:44:09,719
at the Beijing number one machine tool
plant received a wax replica. The fruit

655
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:15,960
itself was destined for higher things.
The real mango was driven by a worker

656
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:21,679
representative through a procession of beating drums
and people lining the streets from the factory

657
00:44:21,679 --> 00:44:25,199
to the airport. The workers had
chartered a plane to fly the single mango

658
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:32,039
to a factory in chain Hi.
This is what why So the fruit is

659
00:44:32,079 --> 00:44:36,840
just this is literally the fruit is
ascended. It is no longer fruit.

660
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,880
It is. It is like you
know when people get mad about like oh

661
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:44,679
the flag hit the ground or whatever. Yeah, mango more important than flags.

662
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:45,840
Yeah, mango kay hit the ground. Yeah, I mean I guess

663
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:50,199
flags have been flown imagine pretty far. But you're just like it's like a

664
00:44:50,199 --> 00:44:53,639
Curb your Enthusiasm episode like Larry's in
China and just eats the sacred mango.

665
00:44:53,679 --> 00:44:58,280
Mango just sitting in a place of
reverence. And but for whatever reason,

666
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,280
in the middle of the buffet table, because that's like the center of the

667
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:07,960
room is the buffet table at the
right bompomp boomp boom. Yeah, they

668
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:14,480
wouldnother table. Mal gave us that. Yeah, yeah, why would you

669
00:45:14,559 --> 00:45:16,679
put it on the food where the
food is God? A fucking Chinese Larry

670
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:22,000
David would be hilarious. They don't
live long. Yeah, no, they

671
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,719
don't make it to their seven don't. You don't have fun? Misadventures and

672
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:29,280
comedies of error is a part of
the part one. There's only one wacky

673
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:35,599
coincidence. Yeah, and it ends
in an unmarked grave. Boom boom boom.

674
00:45:37,639 --> 00:45:40,840
And when one of the mangoes began
to rot, workers peeled it and

675
00:45:42,039 --> 00:45:46,159
boiled the flesh in a vat of
water, which then made the vat holy

676
00:45:46,639 --> 00:45:51,000
and the water inside it holy as
well. So yeah, no religion,

677
00:45:51,079 --> 00:45:53,840
right, yeah, no religion in
that country. Uh. Then each worker

678
00:45:53,880 --> 00:46:00,400
would take turns sipping a spoonful of
the rotten mango flesh water. H MAO

679
00:46:00,599 --> 00:46:04,000
was told about this at this point. I don't even like like crazy Christians,

680
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,239
but I'm like just worship Jesus,
just because I can wrap my mind

681
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:12,719
around that instead of your sacred mango, Like, just do one of the

682
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,519
just do one of the wacky stories. It's already there. Don't make your

683
00:46:15,519 --> 00:46:20,519
own. Don't make your own.
That's just non creative. Rob Mao was

684
00:46:20,559 --> 00:46:23,800
told about the rotting mango flesh water, and upon hearing the story, he

685
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:30,199
laughed out loud. I'm sure it's
like what. I'm sure l Ron Hubbard

686
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:35,639
sat in his office every day and
cracking up. Oh my god, you

687
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,079
know, just randomly you're saying.
That popped into my head. Uh.

688
00:46:39,199 --> 00:46:45,159
There was a training for like a
psychology or a scientology punishment where if you

689
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:50,320
were being insubordinate, they'd make you
like run around a palm tree. That

690
00:46:50,559 --> 00:46:53,199
is now like an ot level.
Pay a fuck ton of money to take

691
00:46:53,280 --> 00:47:00,039
the class about running around the palm
tree scientology. I while I hate it

692
00:47:00,119 --> 00:47:05,360
and I think it's a terrible thing, I respect it because that shit that

693
00:47:05,559 --> 00:47:08,000
is yes standing, Yeah, that
is yes standing all the way to an

694
00:47:08,079 --> 00:47:14,039
insane cult. And they did it
perfectly. How are they a top like

695
00:47:14,199 --> 00:47:22,239
twenty employer in Florida? You know
about it? Yeah, Clearwater where the

696
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:27,880
headquarters is. They've got to be
legitimately top fifty. There's like no one

697
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,599
at the Clearwater thing. They just
have people outside of it. Yeah,

698
00:47:30,599 --> 00:47:32,519
like, but they don't actually have
anyone doing anything. They have real recruits,

699
00:47:32,679 --> 00:47:37,159
they're not. Their numbers are fucking
dwindling, they are. Yeah,

700
00:47:37,199 --> 00:47:39,880
well Miss Scavenge is kind of taking
it down the shitter because, you know

701
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:44,159
what, insane. Kind of a
bad rap right now. Yeah, but

702
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,800
give us some time. Hey,
they what back? They are currently in

703
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:52,639
the phase uh what are They're like
fifty sixty years old as a religion,

704
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,679
right, not very old. So
they're like I think we talked about one

705
00:47:55,719 --> 00:48:00,159
of the last episode, they're for
Christianity. Yeah, so I think they

706
00:48:00,199 --> 00:48:02,880
would have really started taken off around
the sixties. Yeah. When do we

707
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:10,000
crucifier about? I know, right, they really need someone to get crucified.

708
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:15,639
That's how you take off as a
religion. Yeah you martyr. Yeah,

709
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,639
if no martyrs, I know,
nothing to rally around. It's hard

710
00:48:19,679 --> 00:48:22,079
to make martyrs these days too,
on a new religion at least, you

711
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:27,079
know, I mean I think the
most recent like new martyr would probably be

712
00:48:27,519 --> 00:48:30,800
uh, David Correct was about to
say, yeah, Waco, Yeah,

713
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,480
it would probably be the last really
good example of martyrdom because he like,

714
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,599
he pretty much called the shot before
he got killed. He's like, they're

715
00:48:37,639 --> 00:48:39,800
gonna come and kill me, and
that's what God said. It's like,

716
00:48:40,159 --> 00:48:43,880
oh, and boy did they.
They killed the shit out of them.

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that's it. Let's get back to the

832
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,039
mangoes. Baby anyway, well one
of the mango. Okay, we talked

833
00:56:22,039 --> 00:56:24,760
about that. From the very beginning, the mango gift took on a relic

834
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:29,360
like quality to be revered and even
worshiped. Not only was the mango a

835
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:36,320
gift from the chairman, it was
the Chairman. This association is so transubstantiated.

836
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,440
He transubstantiated into the mango, the
mango, Yes, the mangoes,

837
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:44,840
the holy ghost. Yeah, it's
the holy go mango. This association is

838
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,320
reflected in a poem from the period, which I will now read to you.

839
00:56:47,039 --> 00:56:52,480
Seeing that golden mango was as if
seeing the great leader, Chairman Mao

840
00:56:52,199 --> 00:56:58,480
standing before the golden mango was just
like standing beside Chairman Mao again and again,

841
00:56:58,639 --> 00:57:01,800
touching that golden mango. The golden
mango was so warm, again and

842
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:06,079
again. Smelling the mango, the
golden mango was so frank grant. I'm

843
00:57:06,079 --> 00:57:09,239
imagining it sounds way better in Chinese, so it might not. What if

844
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:14,679
it's just mouth talking about a sack. Look at this mango. Look at

845
00:57:14,679 --> 00:57:19,559
the golden mangoes. Smell the mango
so fragrant, it'd be impressed. If

846
00:57:19,639 --> 00:57:22,000
it's scrolled him resembled a mango.
I suppose. Well, if you had

847
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:25,920
a really big sack, Yeah,
just two big mangoes. Each mango is

848
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:31,079
a testicle. Yeah, that's that's
problematic. Probably need like severe compression shorts.

849
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:37,000
Yeah yeah, I mean life would
hurt a lot. Your boy's not

850
00:57:37,119 --> 00:57:43,320
running if he's got mango nuts just
clapping but squishy, but you're hitting from

851
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,840
behind. Those would like wrap all
the way around, hit the clip like

852
00:57:46,639 --> 00:57:55,119
to it certainly. Yeah, yeah, like two wrecking balls that clip yang.

853
00:57:55,599 --> 00:57:59,440
Yeah. Uh. The mango stored
the length and breath of the country,

854
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,320
and we're hosting it in a series
of secret processions. Red guards had

855
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:06,800
wrecked temples and shrines, but destroying
artifacts it is easier than erasing religious behavior,

856
00:58:07,199 --> 00:58:10,440
and soon the mangoes became the object
of a tense devotion. So I

857
00:58:10,519 --> 00:58:15,559
think something that's important here too is
because of the cultural revolution, they're like

858
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:17,880
all of the like things they held
in high regard have been flattened and destroyed.

859
00:58:19,239 --> 00:58:22,559
So much like a power vacuum when
a leader goes away, you need

860
00:58:22,679 --> 00:58:28,559
something for match, there's a spirituality
vacuum. Yeah, and mangoes filtered some

861
00:58:28,719 --> 00:58:30,599
of the thing, man if.
Yeah, it's honestly, this is this

862
00:58:30,719 --> 00:58:36,800
is the most ironic possible way to
use this. But the devil, you

863
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:42,119
know, is so much better than
the deli. You don't in that situation.

864
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,800
That's what I'm saying, Like,
just just keep him Buddhist. Well

865
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:51,000
yeah, so some of the rituals
for The mangoes imitated centuries of Buddhist and

866
00:58:51,119 --> 00:58:53,840
Daoist traditions, and the mangoes were
even placed in an altar to which factory

867
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:58,280
workers would bow in the morning.
Yeah, so they just they literally just

868
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:00,440
swapped out Buddha or whatever dalo the
muses, I guess, and they just

869
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,679
put a mango in it. I'm
sure. I mean I see people it's

870
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,480
almost like the pagan transplant of stuff
too. It's like, well, no,

871
00:59:06,679 --> 00:59:08,239
you still do all the ship.
Yeah, she's a thing or even

872
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:13,119
I mean I see people today who
are like, um, I mean you

873
00:59:13,199 --> 00:59:16,079
see people every day on like social
media and stuff like that confessing their sins.

874
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:22,519
Uh yeah and asking for repentance.
What's the one that the monk did

875
00:59:22,599 --> 00:59:28,000
in Da Vinci Code self? Oh
my god, the amount of self flagelation,

876
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,079
Like just you see that constantly.
I mean, that's what the notes

877
00:59:31,679 --> 00:59:36,840
it's figured of self legilation. Yeah, although it would be hilarious. Notes

878
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,039
app is just confessional though. That's
if you see a notes app, that's

879
00:59:39,079 --> 00:59:43,159
someone going to confession. Shout to
Drew McGary. I think you're just referencing

880
00:59:43,199 --> 00:59:45,880
there. I really am hard.
Yeah, forgive me Twitter if drives and

881
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:51,559
did someone lead with that? Just
Gary's entire personality at this point for what

882
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:57,400
he was like seven years ago,
years ago, and then like thirteen years

883
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,800
ago whatever. Yeah, when dead
Spin was funny. Yeah, So China

884
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:04,960
has a long history of symbolic associations
with food, which may have encouraged extravagant

885
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:08,320
interpretations of mouse gift. The mangoes
were compared to the mushrooms of immortality and

886
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:12,719
the longevity peach of Chinese mythology,
so there was like a nice shoeman for

887
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:19,840
that. The longevity peach sounds like
the worst I don't even know, like

888
01:00:20,039 --> 01:00:25,280
thing you find in Pokemon or something
like. You're just like you're like trying

889
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,920
to get into like your kid's anime. You're like, okay, i'll watch

890
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,039
it with you, and then someone
like takes a bite from the longevity peach

891
01:00:31,039 --> 01:00:34,159
and you're just like, I fucking
can't do this. Yeah, it's just

892
01:00:34,679 --> 01:00:37,920
it's banal. Yeah, it's I
liked your Pokemon reference originally, just like

893
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:44,039
you have a guy at like one
or two HP and he takes the longevity

894
01:00:44,039 --> 01:00:49,440
peach and just rockets back up to
Yeah. Right, the fruit was delicious

895
01:00:49,639 --> 01:00:52,960
exclamation point or it's one of those
items that actually doesn't do anything like that.

896
01:00:53,039 --> 01:00:58,760
It just says they liked the peach. Yeah, you find the longevity

897
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,199
peach, you give it to your
peaka you he's about to die, and

898
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,760
then it does nothing. Yeah,
and then they get hit with the next

899
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,159
attack and you're like, wait,
yeah, it's just like Pikachu died.

900
01:01:07,199 --> 01:01:13,639
Happy fuck that I just lost the
Elite eight or Elite for it um.

901
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,119
The workers surmise that Mau's gift was
an act of selflessness, like I said,

902
01:01:16,159 --> 01:01:20,880
in which he sacrificed his longevity for
theirs by not eating the mango,

903
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:22,480
which he did not like. Oh, he would have been immortal, yeah,

904
01:01:22,639 --> 01:01:28,000
if he had just eaten that basket
of mangoes. Little did they know

905
01:01:28,079 --> 01:01:30,119
that he disliked fruit, nor were
they concerned to learn that Mao was simply

906
01:01:30,199 --> 01:01:35,519
passing on a gift he had already
received. There's a tradition in China of

907
01:01:36,159 --> 01:01:38,360
schwan song, or regifting, and
maybe regarded as vulgar in the West,

908
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:42,599
but in China regifting is widely seen
as a compliment. I'm sure because of

909
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:49,519
communism and what do we do well
around these parts Indian given that's when you

910
01:01:49,599 --> 01:01:51,920
give something back up yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. It's not

911
01:01:52,039 --> 01:01:55,840
giving it no Indian giving given his
repackaging a gift. No Indian giving is

912
01:01:55,880 --> 01:02:00,159
when you h it's when you it's
it's you give something to someone, then

913
01:02:00,159 --> 01:02:01,280
you take it back, then you
take it back from them. That's Indian

914
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:06,239
giving. Oh okay, what is
repackage? Which is ironic because we were

915
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:07,840
the ones that would give things and
then take it back. Yeah. No,

916
01:02:08,079 --> 01:02:10,199
they were like, unless that's actually
how it was born, and now

917
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:15,800
people just wrongly think it's racist.
No, any it's because we traded them,

918
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:19,039
like lynd for the land. Yeah, because they were like, you

919
01:02:19,159 --> 01:02:22,400
can't sell land, sure whatever,
like, and then they want it back

920
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:23,480
like wait, wait, wait,
hold on, Like when they realize that,

921
01:02:23,639 --> 01:02:27,519
oh you can sell it, we
will find a way to conquer it

922
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:34,079
fought red handed. Wow. I
don't think that's what that means, but

923
01:02:34,239 --> 01:02:38,239
I can't be sure. Nobody knows. Yeah. So apparently though it enhances

924
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:42,239
the status of both the giver and
the recipient. This is all just like

925
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:47,280
this kind of selfless to like pass
on your gift to someone else. I

926
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:52,679
feel like this is a high product
of poverty, probably the probably feeling around

927
01:02:52,719 --> 01:02:54,760
it. Yeah, the mango is
also proved to be a gift to the

928
01:02:54,840 --> 01:03:00,400
propaganda department of the Communist Party,
which quickly manufactured mango themed household them such

929
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:04,599
as bedsheets, vanity stands, trays, and wash basins, as well as

930
01:03:04,679 --> 01:03:08,400
mango scented soap. And my favorite, really really big at this time were

931
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:15,320
mango cigarettes. Oh that's great.
Clove cigarette. Yeah, honestly, probably

932
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,280
tasted pretty fruity clove cigarette. But
I tell you what, when they took

933
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:22,000
away our mango jewel pods, I
felt bad, not because I like the

934
01:03:22,079 --> 01:03:24,800
mango flavor, but because I was
not giving my support to mau. Yeah.

935
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:29,039
You weren't showing Mile the reverence that
he needed. Yeah, I want

936
01:03:29,039 --> 01:03:32,880
to breathe in Mao baby. Yeah, as our resident communist on the podcast

937
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:38,719
That's right, don't forget it,
Love Communism. Massive paper machine mangoes appeared

938
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:43,239
on the central float during the National
Day Parade in Beijing in October nineteen sixty

939
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:46,280
eight. Far away in the Gujo
Province, thousands of armed peasants fought over

940
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:52,760
a black and white photograph of a
mango Jesus Christ, a photograph of Amingo.

941
01:03:52,880 --> 01:04:01,519
Thousandstograph. Every time I do there's
a blood bat but now everybody was

942
01:04:01,599 --> 01:04:06,400
so enthusiastic about not everybody was so
enthusiastic about the fruit. Those who expressed

943
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:13,440
their doubts were severely punished. A
village dentist was publicly humiliated and then executed

944
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:16,960
after comparing a touring mango to a
sweet potato. This just makes me think

945
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:21,920
of that Derek comedy video from way
back in the day where they're just like,

946
01:04:23,239 --> 01:04:28,159
whatever you do, don't masturbate to
this photo of a basket of fruit,

947
01:04:29,559 --> 01:04:30,519
Like, why would I do that? Why would I ever masturbate to

948
01:04:30,599 --> 01:04:35,719
the this portrait of fruit? And
then he's just in the bathroom cranking it.

949
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:42,840
I really want to re hit that. Note the guy was like fucking

950
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:47,639
sweet potato. He was publicly humiliated
and executed for that. So what is

951
01:04:47,679 --> 01:04:53,360
publicly humiliated? Meaning probably stripped naked, made to walk through the town,

952
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,760
probably had shit thrown. It was
probably like that, you know, shame

953
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:02,880
shame yea yeah, and then U
you know he's I assume this dentist had

954
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:13,760
a family, Yeah, probably not
anymore kids. Whatever dentist, he's gonna

955
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:15,679
marry a dentist. Plenty of people, I don't know. It's a big

956
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:19,239
country. You don't malign Dennists here. I think it has one of the

957
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:24,719
highest suicide rates. I think it
has a lot of mental issues because of

958
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:30,599
the pain infliction. I think it's
more just mundane or actually, you know,

959
01:05:30,679 --> 01:05:31,440
it probably has to do with being
like, hey man, you probably

960
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:33,599
should take care of those teeth.
Like, I would definitely recommend this to

961
01:05:33,679 --> 01:05:40,159
come back. No, I didn't
do any of this shit idiot pleading when

962
01:05:40,199 --> 01:05:44,800
you poke them fucking flaws. Yeah, imagine like being an oncologist and no

963
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:48,639
one gets chemotherapy and then they keep
coming back and be like tumors bigger.

964
01:05:49,559 --> 01:05:53,639
Yeah, because like I'm kill myself. I don't. You're clearly not gonna

965
01:05:53,719 --> 01:05:57,360
keep listening to me. It's like
literally, actually too. Health is probably

966
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:00,440
the most important thing you can do, like your mouth, right, because

967
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,840
like it's where everything goes to fuel. You got health, Well, it

968
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:06,800
starts with your mouth though. Yeah, Like, man, I could take

969
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:13,800
nutrients through a fucking ivy. I
can have a feeding tube. Yeah,

970
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:17,760
you can just feed yourself out of
yours. I want, I want,

971
01:06:18,639 --> 01:06:21,920
and no one agrees with me.
You might. Actually, I would love

972
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:26,199
it for science to just make the
perfect like little brick of food that gives

973
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:30,440
me everything I need to be the
perfect me. So you just want the

974
01:06:30,079 --> 01:06:34,000
I want soil it. You want
the cricket blocks that they had in snow

975
01:06:34,079 --> 01:06:40,559
Piercer. No, I want the
perfect nutrient like I want. I would

976
01:06:40,559 --> 01:06:42,920
hate that. I love food.
Food. I like food a lot too,

977
01:06:43,039 --> 01:06:45,840
But like when I'm not eating something
I'm really excited about, just give

978
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:48,119
me the fucking block. It's the
protein bar. Yeah, I guess so.

979
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:51,079
Yeah, I mean you have the
block. The block exists. Yeah.

980
01:06:51,239 --> 01:06:54,679
Cool, Okay, I'm gonna go
get some blocks after this. If

981
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:58,039
there's a protein company out there,
I wants to sponsor to the podcast Jake

982
01:06:58,039 --> 01:07:00,119
will Eat Your Block. Yeah,
go to the block dot com slash softcore

983
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:05,400
slash Jake Yeah us good, Jake
loves Block. The mango fever fizzled out

984
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:10,440
after eighteen months and soon discarded.
Wax replicas were being used as candles during

985
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:15,679
electrical outages. People just stopped caring. After about eighteen months, soon died

986
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:18,280
for mangoes, and eighteen months later
no one cared anymore. That sounds about

987
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,960
right. I'm sure There's been at
least five girls crushed to death at a

988
01:07:21,039 --> 01:07:27,119
Justin Bieber concert. Before you know
what I mean. Yeah, and now

989
01:07:27,199 --> 01:07:30,519
he's got like scabies and can't perform
or something weird like that. He's got

990
01:07:30,559 --> 01:07:34,599
some bizarre disease. He's just a
broken human. But there was a time

991
01:07:35,599 --> 01:07:42,800
when you would willingly die to get
to the front row of a Justin Bieber

992
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:46,639
concert. Yeah, get trampled for
it, Yeah, I guess. On

993
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:50,719
a like visit to Beijing in nineteen
seventy four, way, by the way,

994
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:56,599
also ironic that they're using the mangoes
to light their homes when the country

995
01:07:56,639 --> 01:08:00,239
couldn't give them power. Yeah,
in a weird way, they're kind of

996
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,079
lighting Mao on fire. Well,
he thought, so. Yeah, it's

997
01:08:02,079 --> 01:08:04,840
just like a symbol of the country's
greatness that they have to light on fire

998
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:08,719
to keep their homes lit because the
fucking country care. There's a lot of

999
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:13,039
irony in this episode. Yeah,
yeah, great, No, it's mango

1000
01:08:13,159 --> 01:08:18,000
madness really yeah. On a visit
to Beijing in nineteen seventy four, Emelda

1001
01:08:18,079 --> 01:08:21,439
Marcos took a case of the Philippine
national fruit mangoes as a gift for a

1002
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:29,199
host, Mao's wife Jiang King,
known as Madame Madame Mao, and tried

1003
01:08:29,239 --> 01:08:33,680
to replicate the earlier enthusiasm sending the
mangoes to workers. They dutifully held a

1004
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:38,880
ceremony and gave things, but Jiang
King lacked her husband's sense of political timing.

1005
01:08:39,039 --> 01:08:42,159
The following year, as Malay ill
with their clear successor in sight,

1006
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:45,520
she commissioned a new film, Song
of the Mango to enhance her credibility to

1007
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:49,800
succeed her husband, but within a
week of its release, Jang was arrested

1008
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:54,720
in the film was taken out of
circulation. Yeah. Yeah, and this

1009
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:59,680
is actually what is considered the final
chapter in mango madness in China. But

1010
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:02,840
they still do like it's like a
throwback where they're like, remember old people

1011
01:09:03,119 --> 01:09:06,920
will talk about mangoes still like it's
a fucking thing. Yeah, but it's

1012
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:10,000
not. It hasn't been for a
while. Yeah, But they're like,

1013
01:09:10,159 --> 01:09:15,119
you know, would they find like
a mango rita obscene? I don't know,

1014
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:17,800
they might. It seems weird,
like it almost seems like consuming It

1015
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:23,039
was a no no, yeah,
Like what what about like they go to

1016
01:09:23,079 --> 01:09:26,920
Buffalo wild Wings, they go to
a mango hob wing love a mango?

1017
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:30,960
How is that? In support of
actually, fuck everything? I just said

1018
01:09:30,359 --> 01:09:38,239
new plan We patriot shame anyone who
eats mango hob an arrow wings. Yeah,

1019
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:43,079
it's like freed and fries. Yeah, yeah, yeah, mango is

1020
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:48,800
Chinese communist and we will shame anyone
who eats it. Don't worry about the

1021
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:53,359
fact that the Chinese don't even look
at irreverently anymore. Yeah they did at

1022
01:09:53,399 --> 01:09:56,680
one point. They did it one, but that was that's mouse spiritual fruit.

1023
01:09:57,079 --> 01:09:59,560
And if you eat mango hob wings, you're a mouse. And just

1024
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:02,560
because now didn't eat mangoes at all
and didn't like them, it still means

1025
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:10,720
if you eat them, you're a
mollist. Yeah. What if not re

1026
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:15,399
naming it get replaced with another fruit
orange, I guess orangebanaro wings. Yeah,

1027
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:21,079
that doesn't sound Rightoban needs to be
as it needs to be an American

1028
01:10:21,159 --> 01:10:25,039
fruit, So orange is actually a
pretty good Orange is the one. But

1029
01:10:25,159 --> 01:10:28,000
if you don't want to go orange, which another good American fruit like a

1030
01:10:28,079 --> 01:10:31,079
strawberry. Strawberry, I know,
it has to taste terrible. That's the

1031
01:10:31,159 --> 01:10:36,439
point you have to you have to
use a must much worse option, banana

1032
01:10:38,079 --> 01:10:41,800
banana hob wings. Yeah, and
you have to eat anybody like you're like

1033
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:45,000
a fucking smiling asshole. Politician like
so much. It's just like, but

1034
01:10:45,079 --> 01:10:48,840
it's because you can't like choose a
banana. It's just covered in banana cream.

1035
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:54,279
You have to dip the hobanaro wing
in banana ranch. Yeah, it's

1036
01:10:54,319 --> 01:11:00,560
banana ranch. That might actually work. You want to try, because I

1037
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:03,479
mean people would always I mean,
Elvis ate a bunch of banana and mayonnaise

1038
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:08,640
sandwiches. That's why bananas, the
fruit, banana, peanut butter, mayonnaise,

1039
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:12,520
peanut butter. It's probably all that
snuff. I mean, I like

1040
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:17,319
a good banana's foster. Yeah,
school, tennis school, some cocaine pills,

1041
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:23,960
pills for sure, so many greenies
everything. The bread was actually pillbread,

1042
01:11:25,359 --> 01:11:28,239
just flower for the bread. It
was ground percose, ground perose.

1043
01:11:28,359 --> 01:11:30,920
Yeah. Yeah, uh that's it
Fromanos. Would you guys learn today?

1044
01:11:32,239 --> 01:11:39,199
Um? I learned that China had
a very specific religion for eighteen months and

1045
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:46,720
that was a fraud. Yeah.
Why because he uh kind of got a

1046
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:53,159
lot of clout for giving away a
fruit he didn't like. Yeah, he

1047
01:11:53,359 --> 01:11:56,600
basically like, I want this ship
here you go for re gifting. Yeah,

1048
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:59,560
it's a fucking garbage. I think
it's pretty easy to answer. The

1049
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:05,399
next question, but who's Hitler?
It's not now what whoever killed the dentist.

1050
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:10,840
It's like it's the first guy who
heard the dentist say that looks like

1051
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:14,399
a sweet potato and was like,
what the fuck did you say? What?

1052
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:20,199
That guy's Hitler? Just the I
think the whole profession of dentistry is

1053
01:12:20,279 --> 01:12:26,439
Hitler dentist or Hitler dan Is in
favor of the dentist. Take um.

1054
01:12:27,119 --> 01:12:29,560
I think the thing I learned from
all of this is that no matter what

1055
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:33,680
you do in trying to erase a
culture or a history, something will fill

1056
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:38,439
that void. Yeah, no matter
what you do, something feels a void.

1057
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:41,520
Like, no matter you can't eliminate
shit, you're not closing a door.

1058
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:44,600
You're just cleaning out a room.
Yeah, but like you know what

1059
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:46,399
I mean, Like, but something
else is going to go into that room,

1060
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:49,239
and sometimes it's a fucking mango.
Yeah, you're cleaning the room and

1061
01:12:49,279 --> 01:12:54,199
you're throwing it all in the closet. Yeah, Like you're not. You're

1062
01:12:54,239 --> 01:12:58,239
not closing the door. The door
never closes. That's not how it works.

1063
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:01,119
No, like rituals, Yeah,
people like things. Yeah, you

1064
01:13:01,159 --> 01:13:06,479
don't end something. Yeah, So
that's our story today. I hope you

1065
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:11,600
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1066
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:15,279
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1067
01:13:15,399 --> 01:13:19,399
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1068
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:25,840
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1069
01:13:26,079 --> 01:13:30,039
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1070
01:13:30,159 --> 01:13:30,039
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