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Breaking down all the exes and oh's
it's Steve Laverra and Jagen Summons. This

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is I on the Ball on Fox
Sports fourteen fifty. Hey, welcome back

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to IE on the Ball here on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty from se Bramaro.

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He's Jacobs. Also Doug e with
our next segment, and Jay with breaking

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news. All right, and this
is I on the Ball breaking news on

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Fox Sports fourteen fifty. We're all
over the board on stuff today. So

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I'm not even sure which is the
most important thing, but uh, you

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know, for us, for you
know, Steve and I who know so

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many people at the PAC twelve.
It's come out that the PAC twelve is

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going to start layoffs. Packed twelve
Networks is going to start layoffs right after

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the first of the year January fifth. When you when you're gonna do a

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layoff of your company, you have
to report that to the you do,

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yeah, to the FED. Is
a requirement of a number of there's a

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certain number of you know, certain
percentage of employees. Okay, yeah,

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you have to report it so that
they can be ready for you know,

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unemployment and all that. To think
you're reported this, did you? This

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is I had to do that.
This is a personal quick when you laid

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people off, did you ever this
is a personal question you don't have to

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answer. Did you ever get an
unemployment Yeah? And when I got laid

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off from the sugar Skulls, Oh
you did, and you did get it,

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Yeah, you did get it.
Remember there was also a thing.

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It was it was it was it
was during COVID, right, So unemployment

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during COVID you got an extra amount. And and so who who the government

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gave it? Damn them. I
didn't get the state state. Oh I

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didn't the damn state. I didn't
get cradit when the when the citizen,

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when that citizen, when the tour
we went furloughed and all that stuff.

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Because I was an I was an
employee of the sugar Skulls. That wasn't

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the contract. Okay, maybe you
have to be an employee. That might

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have been your If you're a contractor, you weren't going to get it.

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That's probably. I was an I
was the only employee of the sugar and

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I got laid off. Okay,
how long did that lost? Not?

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You know, you know, not
until I started generating income again, you

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know, working again for his Tucson
and and clients again, and it's kind

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of like, okay, I'm I'm, I'm I'm generating some income. So

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I had to, you know,
on the honors and there's not a whole

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lot of money, right, well, it was it was enough through COVID,

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Yeah, because of the COVID,
because of the bonus amount you got

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because of COVID. I'll be honest, I was getting my paycheck was about

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the same as it was good for
you. So it was good, but

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you know, you kind of have
to do this on the honor system,

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right, I'm starting to make money
again. I'm pen Raady and come through

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you know the things that I'm doing
now. And uh and so I had

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to tell them. I had to
say, hey, that's it, I'm

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done with the don But according to
labor officials, the conference plans to lay

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off one hundred and forty one employees
from the you know, from where the

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San Ramon office where they moved to
after they got out of that multi million

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dollar moved. They didn't didn't move, Yeah, they did move so and

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so now and they're going to start
laying them off from January fifth, and

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the layoff will continue through June twenty
eighth, and you know, we know

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a lot of people over there,
right, you know, Yogi Roth,

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Ashley Adamson. They've been on our
show a few times, and they had

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already started to win a few people
already. We knew, you know,

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they they've got to finished. They've
got to finish the school year. Right,

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You've got basketball tournament, We've got
basketball tournaments, You've got all the

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sports. They've got to get through, the Pac twelve softball and baseball tournaments

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and that kind of stuff. So
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that place will be cleared out.
We talked about this yesterday, on this

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ruling about the waiver rule in the
n C Double A, a judge had

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issued a fourteen a fourteen day temporary
injunction against them enforcing there was a lack

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of clarity on okay, if you
if you play in these fourteen games in

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these fourteen days, what happens.
And they clarified it day and said,

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if you play in those fourteen days
and the ruling get on against the waiver

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rule doesn't get overturned. So you
know they still you know, kill the

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kill the waiver rule. If they
put the waiver rule back in place,

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and you've played, You've blown your
red shirt, you've blown your season.

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You play, you've basically used the
season of eligibility because in basketball, unlike

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in football, if you play one
game you're in you use your red shirt

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year. So you know, if
somebody plays in this two weeks expecting to

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hopefully red shirt at the end of
it, then all of a sudden,

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the nc double A wins its case. The waiver rule is held up,

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and they've played, They've used the
year of l M. So that clarification

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king today. I know it's complicated, but it's really not. NCUAA is

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losing all these all these things all
right. The PAC two Oregon State and

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Washington State have released well, the
Mount West released its schedule, so the

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PAC two has released its football schedule
for next year. Remember, Oregon State

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and Washington State are both going to
play seven Mount West games, so both

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of their schedules are out. Oregon
State schedule has them playing Oregon because they

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want to continue the Civil War as
them playing Oregon on September fourteenth as opposed

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to the last last game of the
year. And then their non conference schedules

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is Idaho State, San Diego State, Oregon and Purdue. They will play

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cal and Washington State. They don't
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State has Washington on that same week
that Oregon plays Oregon State. On September

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the fourteenth, They've got Portland State, Texas Tech, Washington, and then

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they play at Oregon State, know, and then a bunch of Mount West

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teams. Washington had San Diego State
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stays. But it's a it's a
Mountain West schedule for these guys. Did

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you see that. I know that
Arizona has to yet to do their schedule

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for next year, but I saw
New Mexico was coming here August thirty first,

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so that's probably labored set. Yeah, they've got New Mexico coming in.

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Draymond Green suspended in that. Yeah, that's just that's just a drama

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field, like it's Tuesday. I
mean, come on, I'm just sure

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they're tired of dealing with this.
Yeah, because you know, he may

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come back, he may not come
back. You probably take fifteen days or

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whatever. But they're they're supporting him, you know, and everyone's saying he's

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got to get his stuff together,
and it's on him. Yeah, there's

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less support for him now in terms
of sick people. Do you think for

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that reason they needs to support him, But that the sick of the act.

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They're sick of the of the anti. If you're the warrior is you

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got to be sick of how he
hurts your team. You're paying him a

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bunch of money and he's kind of
worthless to you because he's causing you more

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problems than he's words. But he's
suspended indefinitely. So there's been nothing come

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out that said it's going to be
this amount of time or that amount of

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time or this other amount of Yeah, some people, at least at the

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NBA level were critical of Steve Kerr
because he is yet to make a public

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statement about it, and he supported
him a lot. But you see when

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it happened, the coaching staff didn't
do anything. They just like watch it

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happen. I'm sure they're thinking,
here we go again, Here we go

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again, right. I mean,
you know, you keep seeing your kid

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act up in the grocery store.
You just put him in the grocery car,

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take him out, throw him in
the back of that and you never

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see You're never going back to the
grocery store with me, you know exactly,

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You're not going to do this.
You're gonna continue this, This thing

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gonna happen. One of our listeners
sent me this after all, this thing

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in the morning with with dream on
about Gilbert Arenas. Gilbert, you know,

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is goofy and talking as he is, he posts and something Gilbert and

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his calls for Draymond Green to assault
more euro white players. Well, I

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mean, come on, come on, Gilbert, Gilbert, just you know,

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just be quite, Gilbert. There's
times we had Gilbert here, he

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was a goopa here, you know, and then he kind of ruined his

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career, his own career. This
is a bad dude talking about another bad

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Well, that's it, Steve,
and that that's what that is. Like.

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Why would we listen to Gilbert or
Renus about how Draymond Green should be

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should be? Right? Man?
All right? You know, sort of

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on the on the on the fringe
of what we cover. Another receiver from

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from USC is leaving the program going
into the NBA, NBA, NFL drafts.

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So two receivers now, Todge Washington
and Brendan Rice. Bert Rice had

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declared earlier. I have both declared
for the draft and so that you think

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would open up some space for Dorian
Singer over at over at USC who left

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Arizona last year, didn't get to
do much this last year US. So

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didn't you say someone else from leaving? Did you say? Did you say?

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Did you? Yeah? I'm about
to get to that. And then

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Christian Rowland Wallace has officially accepted his
invitation to play in the East West Shrine

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Game, which means he's leaving the
USC and entering the draft. Uh likely

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entering the draft. Alvi hasn't declared
for the draft. I think they've said

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that. Whereas before those games were
only for seniors, now they've opened it

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up for players who aren't seniors who
are leaving. So Christian Rowland Wallace left

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as or now he started. He
played a bunch, but he was on

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the team that ended up being not
a very good team. So he's he's

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going to the East West Shrine Game. So he's out all right. Oh,

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this is kind of funny. So
every Coach of the Year nomination list

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that comes out, if it doesn't
have Jeff Jeff Fish on it, people

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lose their minds over here. And
there's another one out today. It's the

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Bear Bryant Coach of the Year quote
unquote for the contributions that make sport better

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for athletes and fans alike by demonstrating
grit, integrity, and a winning approach

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to coaching and life. By who
votes the usb W, A F b

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W, whatever it is. Let
me see, I don't know, just

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as Bear Bryant Coach of the Year. I'll look that up. Look up,

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well, I'll look it up for
quer. But why don't you look

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at it real quick? Bear Bryant
Coach of the Year. So the list

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of coaches on it, David Brown
of Northwestern, who's in the middle of

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the year, Jamie Caldwell, Chadwell, Liberty, who's undefeated, Kaylin de

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Boor Washington undefeated, Eli Drinkwitz Missouri
almost undefeated, Rhett Lashley at s m

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U, Mike Norval Florida State,
Nick Saban Alabama, Steves Sarkis in Texas.

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It's gotta be a weird voting whoever
compiled this list, because there's no

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quest shouldn' judge should be on this. You know, guys, guys that

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get overlooked because they're smaller schools.
The guy in New Mexico State and kill

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Jerry Keil, what a fantastic you
go there to get fired. He's done

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an incredible job there, and you
know what, rich Rod has resurrected his

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career. Yeah, it's it's just
it's just an organization that does the Paul

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Bear Bryant Awards, and now that
they are sponsored by the American Art Association.

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But he thinks it's you know,
American Art Association doesn't. Yeah,

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yeah, but it's an organization.
They've been doing this for thirty years,

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three years. Do they know that
Arizona's a state? They might not.

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They might not, But again,
Arizona fan going what the hell? It's

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understandable, but it gives them another
reason to go, what the hell?

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Okay, speaking of we can probably
talk about this the last couple of minutes

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of this segment, Big Game,
Boomer coming through with a ranking for it.

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Okay, which what's the ranking?
The top twenty five most likable and

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unlikable head? Okay, Jed's got
to be in there. A top ten.

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Where do you think, top ten? Give me a number, I'll

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give you say he's in the top
ten eight or nine two? Most really?

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Yeah, became Boomer. He really
wants a Mexican real. He wants

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goodbye, but he gets here.
He's got Den Sanders at one likable.

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Yes, oh, that's he's polarizing. I don't know. Am I not

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right? He's polarizing because either you
really like him or are you really dumb?

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Right? His top five? Deon
Sanders, Jetfish, Biff Pogy or

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Poggy at Charlotte Lane Kiffen, what's
if? I'm gonna text him right now?

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And then Mac Brown? Oh my
god? Uh? Marcus Freeman is

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in the top ten. Nick Saban
at eight likable likable? Is that a

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typo? Mike? No? Because
the unlikable those guys are? Who's there?

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Okay? Okay? Who do you
think is number one? Most unlikable?

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Unlikable? Harball? No, where's
horrible? Uh? Harba's not on

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either list. Unlikable holds top twenty
five. I need to unlikable unlikeable?

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What's Lincoln Riley there? Number two? Unlikable? Yes? Yeah, okay,

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god, I don't know. Chip
Kelly, Oh, he's just different,

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Chip Kelly. Number three? Brian
Kelly, Okay, okay. Number

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four is a surprise to me because
I thought everybody liked this guy. Donathan

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Smith. Uh yeah, why not
right now? A guy that I think

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I would put up higher than five, Dabbo Sweeney, Yeah, Mary Crystal

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Ball at six, you freeze at
seven? Your friend, my friend where

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number eight? My friend a football
coach? Yes, tell me Rich Rodriguez

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eighty Yeah, Riches, Riches,
he's an acquired taste man might yeah,

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correct. Mike Gundyad comes in at
eleven. Sunny Dyke's at nine. Unlikable,

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unlikable? What what we gotta get
him on this? When he come

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in? Ryan Day at fourteen,
Greg Ciano's in there. Sarkisian at twenty

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one, Oh Harbot twenty five,
likable, coach, likable, Yeah,

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he's another polarizing guy. Yeah,
gr number one. That's a little too

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much. That's a little too much, because he's polarizing. He is,

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he is. All right, we're
gonna take our break right now. We're

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gonna come back. Donnie Salem from
the nineteen eighty eight eighty nineteens, we

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talked about Donnie a few times recently. Was a guy that we watched what

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we watched him get his scholarship on
the practice field way back in eighty eight.

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But Donnie Salem was a tough linebacker
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he'll be joining us and we'll talk
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with Steve Rivera and Jacnzalez on Fox
Sports fourteen fifty. Hey, welcome back

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to you. I on theball here
ol Fox Sports fourteen fifty on Steve Rivera,

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He's chicken sauce. Now on the
phone, we have former U of

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A football player, Donnie Salem.
How you doing Donny? I'm doing great.

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How are you guys? We're doing
fine. Wanted to pick your brain

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on this year's team and what's going
on in your life and then give us

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your life with the Groundkowskis, Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm I couldn't be

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happier about the team and the coaching
staff. And you know, when he

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first got hired, I was like, this guy's a tennis guy. And

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then you look at the coaches that
endorsed them, and it's like who's who

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of Hall of Fame coaches and I
was like, Hey, if all these

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guys and Pete Carroll's going to send
his son to coach with him, and

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hey, I'm all in. And
you know then, you know, most

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most coaches they all say, you
know, they give it the uh,

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the lip service of being you know, with the alumni and the old old

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school Wildcats, and this guy hires
our best guys, you know, Fers,

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tohn Ley and Brandon Sanders and Steptoe. I mean, it's not just

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talk, it's this guy's the real
deal. So I couldn't be happier with

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the way our defense is playing now. And it took a couple of years.

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You know, you didn't put the
whole thing right away, but you

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know the offense last year and the
defense this year, and I just you

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know, if we can keep him
around for a couple of years, we

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could be we could be competing for
the whole thing. So I couldn't be

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happier without trying to aid you too
much, But you know you played a

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while back. Do you watch football
like somebody who's just recently played, you

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know you look at it that way, or do you just sit around and

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watch it like a fan like fat
guys like Steve and I would watch it

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now, I'm really I watch it. You know. I coached my son

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for a few years, and this
year he was on Peyton mann ntil Davis's

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team, and you know, you
of a I you know, I'm about

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to crawl out of my skin for
every game. I'm still I'm still feel

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like, I want to play,
and I'm fifty seven years old, so

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I would last about ten yards,
but be really good ten yards. But

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no, I love I love the
game. You know. I've you know,

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worked with Robbie for years and really
stayed and involved with a lot of

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you know, guys of pros all
the way down to Poblem Warner in high

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school. And I love it.
I love the game all the way through.

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It's funny. So now I will
date you because you were We covered

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you in eighty eighty nine. I
think it was back in the day.

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It's thirty five, thirty six years
ago. You said you're fifty seven.

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Does it seem like that long ago? No, it really doesn't. I

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mean I still dream about playing and
wake up and I'm like, oh,

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well, obviously that wasn't real.
It feel like like I mentally like I

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could still play, but obviously physically
I couldn't. And but no, it

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doesn't doesn't feel like that long ago
at all, you know, I mean,

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it's like fifteen years ago, not
thirty five five years ago. Right.

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Well, well bring up that point
you were making with the scholarship.

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Yeah, so you know, Steve
and I were there the day you got

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your scholarship. Was right there on
the field. You know, one of

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the coolest things I remember I ever
saw, you know, covering you guys,

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but you know, I just remember
looking at you and thinking, Wow,

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this is you know, this is
huge. Describe that moment for you

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and how much that that's meant meant
you even in later years, right,

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Yeah, I mean, I I'll
never forget that day down at coaches and

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told me rounded up the whole team
and and put me on scholarship. And

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I remember, you know, I
knew I was good enough to play,

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and I knew I could could play
at the level that that you know,

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U of A. And I'll never
forget that day. And you know,

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coach told me he's you know,
obviously rest in peace, but he's just

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been like a true father figure to
me. And you know, I had

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no idea it was coming. I
knew I needed it because I couldn't afford

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this cool So if I if I
didn't get that scholarship, I was I

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was going to be off the team
pretty quick because I couldn't afford school.

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And he put me on scholarship and
then you know, he actually threw me

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in in the middle of the Oklahoma
game was my first time playing metal linebacker,

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and I was more outside and kind
of special teams. And he threw

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me in in that Oklahoma game,
the sixty three game and told me it

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was my job to lose and put
me in at mike linebacker. And I

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remember as a fear of losing my
job until basically the issue game and Darren

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Case said, Donnie, you're leading
the team and tackled you never come off

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the field, your job safe,
and trying to get me to calm down

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and practice because I was out there
practicing with my hair on fire. Yeah.

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Well, but you're describing the flow
just in Flow, because that's how

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he plays, and he's kind of
a crazy attack attack, attack, and

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that's who you were. Yeah yeah, I mean I was kind of,

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you know, I was strong safety
before he got to U of A.

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And then they kind of have me
outside inside outside and and and Flow has

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that same mentality. I remember playing
just you know, I mean crying before

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practice. I'd be so so hyped
up for practice, not much less a

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game, you know, game time, and just forget it. I couldn't

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even really communicate. But uh,
I uh, you know, I love

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Flow, you know I wish he
I think he's working on his coverage skills

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so he could get the game a
little bit more. So. That's uh.

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But that guy's he's a he's a
monster, and I think overall his

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energy really benefits the team uh as
much as or more than when he's on

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the field, because he's got that
uh high energy and super hype uh you

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know, mentality. So I'd love
to hear thoughts on Jacob Monuo, Right,

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he's sort of the you know,
I've kind of declared him as the

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next you know, great linebacker possibly
to come out of Arizona. A guy

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who'll be mentioned, I think by
the end of his time here, you

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know, with you know, Ricky
Hunley and and and don the guy from

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FU in Phoenix, Oh, Randy
Byron Evans, Yeah, Donnie. You

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know what, you only got a
few more years before you get to that,

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right. You can't remember Byron Evan's
name, but you know, Lance

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Briggs, those guys that came through
here, you know, I mean,

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you know, in two short years, and he's a true sophomore this year,

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you know, making that name for
himself. What are your thoughts on

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what you see from her? Yeah, you know when I first saw him,

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I was like, this guy's a
little kind of like an Adrian Coke.

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You know, You're like, man, he's he really a Pac twelve

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linebacker. And then you watch him
play, and you've watched you know,

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we've all watched him grove the last
two years and and you know, especially

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the last two thirds of this year. He's just really got a nose for

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the ball. And you know,
I don't know that he's Ricky Hunley or

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Byron because they're to me, they're
just elite and uh and at the college

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level especially, but you know,
if Iron had an incredible pro career as

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well, but uh, I don't
know that. You know, Man is

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going to be that. But he's
a leader on the on the field.

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You know, he's got that energy, and you know, I think all

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those survey guys, you know,
the only one we really haven't seen a

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lot of the four is is you
know Burnett, right, and uh but

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the other three, I mean,
wow, I mean we pulled off that

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whoever that was it pulled that coup
off. Besides Jed was just you know,

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puts Our puts our program at another
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hope we you know, keep recruiting
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That's what I said after the twenty
two class, I said, if we

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can stack two or three more classes
up behind this, I mean, look

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out, you know, because you're
the community is hungry, the team,

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the fan base, the alumni,
everybody is is super ecstatic. You know.

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But I love man and I love
the way he plays. He's always

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around the ball, you know,
Hill miss a few plays here and there,

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but well then he comes up big
a play later, and you're just

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like, well that's why he's in
there, you know, and he's leading

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the team. And I saw he
got first team, you know, all

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back I thought I thought, you
know, uh, our receiver was going

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to get it and maybe he would
be second team. But they flipped lopped

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those guys. I don't know how
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They give it to that, you
know, Travis Hunter up here, as

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I know, he didn't make All
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him Travis Hunter against t Mac right
now. Not that he won't be a

406
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great pro one day or something,
but as far as this season goes,

407
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it had to just be off the
hike. They gave him that first team

408
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you know. So, I team
Mac is as good as there is anywhere.

409
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And I heard about him from some
friends when we first got him,

410
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or when we were still after him, when he was committed to Oregon and

411
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I heard he might flip to us, and he did, and they said,

412
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you just got it. You just
got a guy who's going to play

413
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ten years in the pros and do
amazing things. So so, man,

414
00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:03.880
he's a great player. He's really
got a nose for the ball, and

415
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I can't wait to see what he's
going to do in the next couple of

416
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years. I'll see him. I'll
see him even after next year, like

417
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some of these other guys might.
You know, So you been talking about

418
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Jeff Jed for you in some of
that you have yet to meet him.

419
00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:22.079
I'm sure you have. And did
you go to the Colorado game? Oh

420
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yeah, yep, I had.
I was on site. They got me

421
00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:30.240
pregame sideline passes. I brought about
seven kids from our football team up here,

422
00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:36.279
and Tate Manyson Marshall and Deral Davis's
son, and a bunch of other

423
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kids. But I've met I've met
Jed multiple times, you know, especially

424
00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:44.960
when I'm there with grown Korroy's right
around him. But I love Jed personally

425
00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:49.359
of his his you know, I
actually told him the story of loud Olsen.

426
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How Luke, you know, could
have went to Kentucky and decided not

427
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to, and then he built a
dynasty. He put us on the map,

428
00:29:57.440 --> 00:30:03.079
literally the U of A. And
then Luke actually told me a second

429
00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:06.279
time he turned down Kentucky. It's
because Bobby said if he went, he

430
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was going by himself because she wasn't
leaving the grand kids. No, no,

431
00:30:10.119 --> 00:30:12.960
that's pretty accurate. That's pretty accurate. And then Kentucky screwed it up

432
00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:15.559
too, but not including her in
meetings. Yeah. So no, you're

433
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you're pretty you're pretty accurate. Yeah. No, And what did he did?

434
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He say, Oh, interesting,
because it's true, is very true.

435
00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:26.000
But if he could do that,
you know, Tomy, he really

436
00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:30.440
set the table. And obviously he's
a legend for life, but Jed could

437
00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:33.920
if he takes us, you know, it's building something versus chasing the money.

438
00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:37.759
And and you know, I remember
Larry Smith and the worst mistake he

439
00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:41.720
ever made was leaving to go to
USC And you know, he could have

440
00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:45.839
built the powerhouse here, and you
know, he left and told me a

441
00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:49.559
few years to get rolling and then
you know, we finish you know where

442
00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:52.440
I thought, if we had a
playoff and you know, the Fiesta Bowl

443
00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:56.680
year or the Holiday Bowl year,
we might have won it all and he

444
00:30:56.720 --> 00:31:00.759
would have had a lifetime contract.
And instead, you know, we have

445
00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:04.160
a couple of down in years and
he got you know, pushed to the

446
00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:07.839
side, and and uh, you
know it was a big mistake because then

447
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:12.000
we ran into Macovic and then the
students I thought did a great job,

448
00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:15.160
and then you know, he had
had his issues. He couldn't deal with

449
00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:19.279
the refts. And Uh, I
told Mark Stoops when when Mark was on

450
00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:22.240
the phone with me, Uh,
Pete Russell had put him on the phone

451
00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:25.880
with me. Pete was a scout
and Mark was I didn't even know there

452
00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:29.000
was a Mark. And I said, hey, if he goes, we

453
00:31:29.119 --> 00:31:30.519
really want that job. I said, if you want it, you got

454
00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:37.160
to understand you're inheriting a glorified junior
college. Uh. After Macavick had done

455
00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:38.960
with us, and then uh,
and we got to get good enough to

456
00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:42.960
beat the other team and the rest. That's what I've said it multiple times

457
00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:47.599
to anybody that will listen. I
just really pray we don't bring uh.

458
00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:51.359
You know that the Big twelve doesn't
bring any of these rests from the Pac

459
00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:55.119
twelve because they're they're as bad as
there is out there. And you know,

460
00:31:55.160 --> 00:31:57.240
they never they never liked us or
Issue that I felt like the only

461
00:31:57.279 --> 00:32:01.759
game they called uh even was when
we did play Issue because neither one of

462
00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:06.440
us were from the old Guard.
You know, interesting, interesting, but

463
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:10.119
that's a whole nother that's a whole
nother story. But you know, so

464
00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:14.920
you talk about let's talk about Oklahoma
real quick and again and the big game.

465
00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:16.559
Are you going to be going to
that one and two? What do

466
00:32:16.599 --> 00:32:20.200
you look like about the matchup?
And you did play We had Doug faff

467
00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:23.319
on last week. What do you
remember that game? Oh? That game

468
00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:28.480
was It was a defensive battle,
and you know, people don't like defensive

469
00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:30.599
games, but I love them.
Of course I'm a defensive guy. But

470
00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:36.519
it was just huge. You know, we went in my junior year and

471
00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:38.680
we played him up there and it
was twenty eight ten I think, and

472
00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:43.720
but the game was a lot closer
than that showed, so we knew we

473
00:32:43.759 --> 00:32:47.759
could we could go with them,
and they had Jamel Holloway and Barry Switzer

474
00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:53.160
and came into Tucson and it was
just it was literally about defensive battle.

475
00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:59.319
The offenses couldn't do anything on either
side of the ball. And you know,

476
00:32:59.359 --> 00:33:00.759
I remember, I remember praying.
I was down on one knee.

477
00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:05.160
I was me and maybe a few
other people in that whole stadium. I

478
00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:07.599
didn't even watch that kick go through
because I was on one knee praying,

479
00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:13.160
and he hit that field goal,
and there was a feeling I'll never forget,

480
00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:16.319
you know, to just beat you
know, top five of sixteam in

481
00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:21.640
the country, and you know,
Oklahoma is a perennial power, and you

482
00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:24.680
know, here we are as a
as a you know, maybe upper but

483
00:33:24.920 --> 00:33:30.279
mid upper level Pac twelve team that
just you know, just coming in from

484
00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:31.960
the you know, from the whack, you know, ten years earlier or

485
00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:37.079
whatever it was. And and I
thought we were on our way, you

486
00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:38.240
know, and then you know,
you they did it. You know,

487
00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:43.640
I had the Desert Swarm after I
left, and there's two nineties teams that

488
00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:47.519
and you know, it's just feels
so good to be able to watch a

489
00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:52.240
game and see great defense again,
see offense. That's exciting. You know,

490
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:57.440
I really hope the Tucson crowd gets
behind the team. You know,

491
00:33:57.519 --> 00:34:00.480
I know Jed, it's got to
be frustrating for him with the nil you

492
00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:05.200
know, have to try to chase
that stuff, and you know, and

493
00:34:05.839 --> 00:34:08.599
have people not show up to the
games. And I think, I think

494
00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:13.920
after if we win this game,
I think that stadium it'll be it'll be

495
00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:19.760
less often that it's it's you know, a third empty than all the time,

496
00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:22.280
you know, like it's it's been. And you know, you got

497
00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:25.000
to have a good product on the
field. And I think now that people

498
00:34:25.039 --> 00:34:30.199
are seeing that and and I think
excitement is going to go way up.

499
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:31.719
I'm just you know, I think
we're going to win this game. They

500
00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:35.840
got a bunch of guys missing,
it's going to be more or less a

501
00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:38.360
home crowd for them. But yeah, I'm gonna I'm going to the game

502
00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:42.679
and I'm just hoping, hoping we
can win it. And you know,

503
00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:45.920
we're one to want to get Oklahoma
soap and we come out of there two

504
00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:50.039
and one, and I think next
year, with what we got coming back,

505
00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:54.079
and and you know, some of
the the excitement around everything, we

506
00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:58.280
might come into the preseason, you
know, ranked in the top ten or

507
00:34:58.280 --> 00:35:01.599
twelve in the country and that so
and that's a great way to enter the

508
00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:07.519
Big twelve. Absolutely absolutely, yeah. Okay, yeah, well Donny appreciate

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00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:09.679
your time. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. DONNYE. Save travels,

510
00:35:09.719 --> 00:35:15.519
dude, save travel Bank, Steve
and uh down all right, okay,

511
00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:19.800
all right, guys, what I
got from that he's fifty seven years

512
00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:22.280
old. I didn't realize that he
was that close to me. Yeah,

513
00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:28.159
man, come on, yeah,
well no, it's a good dude.

514
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:31.280
But we didn't talk about the ground
Gronkowski stuff. But there he's like a

515
00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:35.519
like the wingman for them, you
know, obviously around all the time.

516
00:35:35.559 --> 00:35:37.000
All right, let's take our last
break. We're gonna come back. It'll

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Hey, welcome back to my I
on the ball here on Fox Sports fourteen

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fifty. On Steve, he's Jake, and Jay's got some work to do.

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I got it, man, I
got him. I'm good. I'm

584
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ready. Okay, Yeah, no, I'm still got a lot of work

585
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to do. You know what,
Steve, I'm just trying to not be

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in last place. Okay, and
that's what I'm doing. Don't please don't

587
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screw me up this week. Well, I'm taking a bunch of college games.

588
00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:52.159
Oh good, good, I'll tell
you what. I'm still taking two

589
00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:55.079
NFL. Oh okay, please,
there's I am taking three college Well the

590
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gin joints don't pick money, all
right, Well, then I'll start out

591
00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:02.360
of the college side. I've been
listening to you know, who's who's gonna

592
00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:06.119
be playing, who's not gonna be
playing? You know you got to listen

593
00:41:06.159 --> 00:41:08.559
to you know, these teams that
are showing up for Bowl games without their

594
00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:16.239
rosters and stuff. So just today, Ohio's quarterback announced he's he's leaving.

595
00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:20.280
He's in the transfer port. He's
going to Indiana. I think if they

596
00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:22.760
lost a bunch, Ohio's lost a
bunch of other players. I'm gonna take

597
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:29.159
Georgia Southern on Saturday morning at give
you have three points on that in whatever

598
00:41:29.199 --> 00:41:37.679
bowl game they play Ohio. Georgia
Southern against Ohio. I guess I should

599
00:41:38.280 --> 00:41:43.039
get the list of the bowl games. Okay, Well, you're gonna go

600
00:41:43.039 --> 00:41:46.360
online real quick. Yeah, I'm
doing that right now. So we know

601
00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:50.199
you're gonna go to college. It's
cool. Okay, So I'm gonna go

602
00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:53.119
pro. All am gonna be pro, hoping I do better than I did

603
00:41:53.239 --> 00:42:00.480
last week. That's the Myrtle Beach
Bowl down in South Carolina. Uh,

604
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:06.519
Georgia Southern is giving three Okay,
all right, okay, so I want

605
00:42:06.519 --> 00:42:09.519
to go all pro. My first
pick is gonna be Indy minus one and

606
00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:13.960
a half. I think they played
Pittsburgh, the Steelers. Yes, right,

607
00:42:14.239 --> 00:42:15.440
that's one of that game that we
were talking about. I'm sticking the

608
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:20.360
sticking to the same mostly the same
teams I went with last week. I

609
00:42:20.360 --> 00:42:23.679
don't have your grudge, but they
better pull this baby off. You can't

610
00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:28.199
go two in a row, you
know. I thought that about the Lions.

611
00:42:28.199 --> 00:42:30.119
I thought they couldn't host me again, and then they did me too.

612
00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:36.880
Okay, all right in the Celebration
No, not the Celebration Bowl,

613
00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:42.800
the New Orleans Bowl. I'm gonna
take your friend and mine, rich Rod

614
00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:46.920
who they playing Jacksonville State giving two
and a half to Louisiana. I just

615
00:42:46.960 --> 00:42:51.440
think, you know, rich trot's
hard to prepare for and I think,

616
00:42:51.559 --> 00:42:54.079
uh, you know, he's just
They've just been really good. They you

617
00:42:54.119 --> 00:42:57.440
know, they're excited to being a
bowl game because they weren't supposed to be

618
00:42:57.440 --> 00:42:59.920
able to be in one. Yeah, because this was that one year that

619
00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:02.000
they weren't allowed. But then because
of the way the number of teams that

620
00:43:02.519 --> 00:43:07.000
ended up qualifying, they got into
a bowl game. I think they got

621
00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:08.800
to be happy to be there,
and that's a big part of it.

622
00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:12.679
Even Jedfish said that that you know
teams that are happy to be at bowl

623
00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:15.639
games, said, teams are like, Okay, we got another game.

624
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:20.599
So I'm going with with the Jacksonville
State in the New Orleans Bowl also on

625
00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:25.079
Saturday against Louisiana. Okay, my
next game, sticking with the team that

626
00:43:25.119 --> 00:43:32.159
you went with last week and blew
it Miami minus eight and a half.

627
00:43:32.679 --> 00:43:37.559
The Dolphins were a semi finalist of
mine, so you didn't pick them I'm

628
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:43.400
not picking them. They play the
Jets even eight and a half the Jets.

629
00:43:43.679 --> 00:43:45.719
They're at home. I liked the
game, but I thought, I

630
00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:49.920
think I found one better. Okay, well we both we both have to

631
00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:52.320
pick the Jags and Ravens. That's
our that's our special pick this week.

632
00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:57.000
So we'll pick that at the end. But uh, you know, I

633
00:43:57.239 --> 00:44:00.360
I was looking at it. I
was on the Dolphins, and then I

634
00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:02.760
found a game that I need to
be better. So I let that one

635
00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:07.719
go because I want to take another
college game, and I am taking your

636
00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:13.800
your New Mexico State Aggies in the
New Mexico Bowl. Gary Kale and Company

637
00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:17.360
plus two. They're they're they're giving
three and a half your fresnel staving.

638
00:44:17.400 --> 00:44:21.760
You know, they're divving who is
playing without their head coach. But they

639
00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:23.960
played well without their head coach three
and a half, three and a half.

640
00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:27.559
Their favorites by three and a half. Yes, in the New Mexico

641
00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:30.039
Bowl. I'm going to that game. Are you going to the game.

642
00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:31.320
Yeah, that's where you're leaving.
Yes, Well, no, I was

643
00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:34.840
going to go visits. Well,
I'm gonna go visit some rinds and stuff,

644
00:44:34.840 --> 00:44:37.760
but I'm going to the game.
See if I want to go there,

645
00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:38.760
you go. Man, you got
the degree, you got some juice

646
00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:43.920
on that degrees. I'm gonna freeze. I just remember when they came here,

647
00:44:43.960 --> 00:44:46.519
man, turn out the lights and
Las Crucees and oh yeah, you

648
00:44:46.559 --> 00:44:51.400
know another they're excited to be sold
out all the beer joints, you know,

649
00:44:51.400 --> 00:44:53.360
and how excited Presnel State they're going
out. Their coach Yeah yeah,

650
00:44:53.400 --> 00:45:00.440
yeahday yeahday. I'm on New Mexico
said I want to be here. I

651
00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:02.719
gotta be cold. That's actually a
good pick because you know that it means

652
00:45:02.719 --> 00:45:06.800
a lot to mix with State and
who knows what it means to president,

653
00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:08.960
And That's what I'm going after,
Steve. These both games, I mean

654
00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:13.400
both games are hard because you know, you don't you need to know that,

655
00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:15.280
right, And so I feel like
they're they're fired up. They've had

656
00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:19.480
a great season. They don't want
to mess it up in this right.

657
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:25.239
Okay, I'm gonna go pro again. I'm gonna go Casey. They sucks,

658
00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:28.559
Steed, I know they do.
They suck. I know they do.

659
00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:31.119
I'm mad at this week and I
hope they do. I hope they

660
00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:36.440
suck so bad. Chiefs are minus
seven and a half over I think the

661
00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:38.960
Patriot Patriots. Yeah, what's up
of the Patriots and the coach? You

662
00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:42.480
know, he's just a pain.
A lot of discussions this week that he

663
00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:45.599
his way out the door. Yeah
you know that. You know, I

664
00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:50.760
wonder how that will happen. I
hate to cover a team like him.

665
00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:52.880
Yeah, yeah, right, don't
question you know, and and and so

666
00:45:53.079 --> 00:45:58.880
often teams take on that personality.
They see how he treats the media.

667
00:45:59.159 --> 00:46:01.440
They you know, you'll get not
everybody, but you'll get guys will treat

668
00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:05.159
the media the same way. Sure, it's like crap because he's the example.

669
00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:07.480
Yeah, it's like crap. You
know, it's a crap. I

670
00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:12.079
hate that. I hate that.
Okay, my first Pro game the one

671
00:46:12.079 --> 00:46:15.920
that I think is better than a
pick on the Dolphins because these guys have

672
00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:22.960
just been so mean all season long. The forty nine ers giving twelve and

673
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:27.000
a half, that number started at
fourteen. So now that it's under fourteen,

674
00:46:28.039 --> 00:46:29.880
by the fact, because it's dropped
to twelve and a half, that

675
00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:31.599
means people are taking the Cardinals.
I Am just gonna beat the crap out

676
00:46:31.639 --> 00:46:37.159
of them, And so I'm taking
the forty nine ers giving twelve and a

677
00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:39.480
half at the Cardinals. I know
it's in Phoenix, and I hate taking

678
00:46:39.480 --> 00:46:43.960
double digit point spreads, especially on
the road, but I think I think

679
00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:51.840
the forty nine just really really damn
good. Yeah. Okay, my second

680
00:46:51.920 --> 00:46:53.559
last pick, I'm gonna go with
another team that went over last week,

681
00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:59.639
the Rams over the Commanders. It's
at home. See last time I bet

682
00:46:59.639 --> 00:47:02.920
against the Commanders. They won.
They beat who they beat? They beat?

683
00:47:02.960 --> 00:47:07.920
The was the Lions that they beat
I can't remember they beat. They

684
00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:12.519
beat somebody that really pissed me off. And you've been pissed off for picked

685
00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:16.039
the whole season sixteen weeks. I'm
okay with that. Well, Hell,

686
00:47:16.079 --> 00:47:19.480
Steve, we're gonna tell you up. I'm gonna tell you up. The

687
00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:23.119
Boats twenty six wins and forty nine
losses. That's crap. You gotta be

688
00:47:23.159 --> 00:47:27.719
able to pick more winners than that. You get out of bed and do

689
00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:29.840
it. But you haven't got out
of bed yet. No, man,

690
00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:31.679
it's terrible, all right. And
then okay, so we both got to

691
00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:37.480
pick the Jags and the Ravens.
I hate the spread it's three because that

692
00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:43.239
can push very easily, and I've
been on the Ravens a few times,

693
00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:45.800
and they pissed me off. I've
been the Jags on a few times.

694
00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:50.920
They pissed me off. Everybody has. So I'm just gonna take the home

695
00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:53.599
team, and I'm gonna taking the
Jags the three. Okay, I'm taking

696
00:47:53.639 --> 00:48:00.320
the Jags too. No, no, because it's either or. Baltimore should

697
00:48:00.320 --> 00:48:04.719
have should have covered last week.
They didn't. Then they barely won,

698
00:48:06.119 --> 00:48:08.320
So they'll get what the deserve.
I think in this one. We'll see,

699
00:48:08.480 --> 00:48:12.360
we'll see the first place in their
division. I'll take the jackson home.

700
00:48:12.519 --> 00:48:15.159
Yeah, both the first place.
And it's even three. It's an

701
00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:17.280
even three. It dropped from three
and a half. Yeah, Okay,

702
00:48:17.719 --> 00:48:21.199
you're gonna have a lot of people
upset this week. They get mad when

703
00:48:21.239 --> 00:48:23.880
it happened. Yeah, you know, I'll take it. If you don't

704
00:48:23.920 --> 00:48:27.760
like it, you know, just
don't take the even number. Yeah,

705
00:48:28.079 --> 00:48:32.480
I'll I gotta stay at least for
three and hoping I get three magical wins.

706
00:48:32.559 --> 00:48:36.199
I may throw a little some of
some of my DraftKings cash on this.

707
00:48:36.239 --> 00:48:40.639
Georgia Southern, Jacksonville State, New
Mexico State partly group of group of

708
00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:45.960
college games. You're still for U
C. L A Man California. Yeah,

709
00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:50.639
U c l A Cal. You
know Cal. I'm sure it's excited

710
00:48:50.679 --> 00:48:52.920
to be there. Texas Tech,
you know, maybe, but I don't

711
00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:57.000
trust Cal. I don't trust Cal. Yeah, anything. I'm surprised that,

712
00:48:57.280 --> 00:48:59.039
you know, bowl game. He
must have done a heck of a

713
00:48:59.079 --> 00:49:00.599
coaching job, because they were they
looked at bad. They were just as

714
00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:05.119
bad as Arizona back two years.
They look bad at the beginning of this

715
00:49:05.199 --> 00:49:08.000
year, and they got into a
bowl game. But that's that's that.

716
00:49:09.880 --> 00:49:15.360
What is it the Potato Bowl?
I think because because Ula is in the

717
00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:19.119
La Bowl, oh, the Independence
Bowl. They're in Shreatport. Oh,

718
00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:20.840
that's the other thing. That's the
other thing. Why I laid off of

719
00:49:20.840 --> 00:49:23.559
that. It's going to be like
freezing and sleet and all that stuff like

720
00:49:23.599 --> 00:49:27.320
it always is in Shreveport. And
I don't know that Cal, We're going

721
00:49:27.360 --> 00:49:30.079
to be prepared for that, So
stayed off of that. Yes, seven

722
00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:35.719
bowl games, uh this weekend.
Six of them are on Saturday, and

723
00:49:35.760 --> 00:49:38.519
then you've got a bowl game Monday. What was the Bahamas Bowl is now

724
00:49:38.559 --> 00:49:44.920
the Famous Toastery Bowl and it's being
played in North Carolina and that's Western Kentucky

725
00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:47.679
against the old comedian, but I'm
fired up. I love the bull seasons,

726
00:49:47.679 --> 00:49:51.760
Steve. I know you don't.
I do you do? A lot

727
00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:53.199
a lot of people say, well, why do we have these Bowl games?

728
00:49:53.239 --> 00:49:58.199
Because they're fun, that's all,
no other reason. They're fun bowl

729
00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:01.239
games. It's college football fun to
watch. Yeah, some games are crap

730
00:50:01.280 --> 00:50:05.480
because teams don't you know, don't
want to be there. So so I

731
00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:07.400
don't know this. I don't pay
attention. So the twelve teams next year,

732
00:50:08.119 --> 00:50:14.559
are they going to have the current
Bowl games as games in the playoffs?

733
00:50:14.559 --> 00:50:16.119
They're can create their own. What
are they gonna do because the first

734
00:50:16.199 --> 00:50:21.840
round of games are home games for
the vial seas, Okay, so those

735
00:50:21.840 --> 00:50:25.000
are not Bowl games. Okay,
so then that'll be like now, like

736
00:50:25.360 --> 00:50:31.360
December sixteenth. So in the next
round of games, which are the semi

737
00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:37.159
semi final game, no quarterfinal games, semi final twelve to eight, right,

738
00:50:37.199 --> 00:50:38.800
yeah, totally, I guess.
Yeah, it goes from twelve to

739
00:50:38.840 --> 00:50:44.239
eight. Yeah, the quarterfinals.
I think those begin are Bowl games.

740
00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:46.679
Okay, I think they're using the
six New Year six Bowl games, but

741
00:50:46.719 --> 00:50:51.360
you don't know which game quarterfinals and
then the semi finals. You don't know

742
00:50:51.360 --> 00:50:54.400
which games that should help attendance if
the playoffs is going to be part of

743
00:50:54.440 --> 00:51:01.039
the Yeah, there's still some discussion
that down the road, Uh, they're

744
00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:08.360
gonna want to use They're gonna want
to let the in the second round,

745
00:51:08.639 --> 00:51:15.280
let them host teams that get first
round by let them host a bowl game.

746
00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:19.639
Okay, but I'm trying to look
the look look this up right now,

747
00:51:19.639 --> 00:51:22.400
because I believe I believe that that
was that was the deal, is

748
00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:29.000
that the quarterfinal games were the round
of eight, right that that that those

749
00:51:29.039 --> 00:51:32.559
will be actual, that those will
be played in the bowl games because the

750
00:51:32.559 --> 00:51:37.159
semifinals next year. Now the first
round are on campus. Here we go,

751
00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:40.840
I got it. The first round
are on campus games. The quarterfinals

752
00:51:42.199 --> 00:51:45.880
are the Festival, the Peach Bowl, the Rose Bowl, and the Sugar

753
00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:50.320
Bowl, and then the semi finals
are the Orange Bowl and the Cotton Bowl.

754
00:51:50.360 --> 00:51:52.760
And then the National Championship is its
own game. So so the new

755
00:51:52.840 --> 00:51:57.719
year six are used for the six
games for the quarterfinals in the semi final

756
00:51:58.079 --> 00:52:01.760
that moves around in the In the
following season, you've got the quarterfinals of

757
00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:06.320
the Cotton Bowl, Orange, Rose, Sugar, and the semis are the

758
00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:09.199
Fiesta and the Peach So you're never
gonna get to the Rose Bowl. Yeah,

759
00:52:09.199 --> 00:52:13.920
well, when Arizona gets When Arizona
gets into it, gets into the

760
00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:19.079
playoff next year and they get in
the bracket for the next game is the

761
00:52:19.159 --> 00:52:22.199
Rose Bowl. Yes, they're going
to get into these You ever met an

762
00:52:22.199 --> 00:52:28.199
optimist, crazy optimist. It's a
better shot than they've had up to now.

763
00:52:28.280 --> 00:52:32.119
Stas you'll see one. And you
know what's I just wanted to get

764
00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:35.639
to the game. They didn't even
have to win the damn game. Just

765
00:52:35.679 --> 00:52:37.960
get there, get into the playoff
and get in the bracket where the net

766
00:52:37.960 --> 00:52:42.880
where you win a game. And
they're in the roads. What's the strangest

767
00:52:42.880 --> 00:52:50.719
looking desert animal you've ever seen?
It's j Win the Big twelve next year,

768
00:52:51.440 --> 00:52:54.039
Win the Big twelve next year,
you have, beautiful Dreamer. Win

769
00:52:54.119 --> 00:52:58.559
the Big twelve next year, and
then get be the team that hosts the

770
00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:01.400
Rose Holy you have a beautiful dreamer. Like, no, it's not on

771
00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:06.000
there, stop it, beautiful dream
All right, that's our day. That's

772
00:53:06.039 --> 00:53:08.960
our day. Steve and I will
we'll post these the picks up before the

773
00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:12.480
weekend. We'll give you a sense
of what we're doing, and then we

774
00:53:12.519 --> 00:53:15.760
will be back on Monday. We're
off tomorrow. Steve's going to watch the

775
00:53:15.760 --> 00:53:19.280
New Mexico Bowl. I'm just taking
the day off. I've got stuff.

776
00:53:19.360 --> 00:53:21.960
It's y so all right. Thanks
for being here all week. We'll see

777
00:53:21.960 --> 00:53:30.400
you on Monday. We brought our
hands