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So this evening we 9 00:00:58.320 --> 00:01:03.000 have with this author, un radio personality and producer of the show The Secret 10 00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:07.439 Teachings that I met at Contact in a desert this year, Ryan Gable. 11 00:01:07.799 --> 00:01:10.879 Welcome to the show. Brother. How's it going, my friend, It's 12 00:01:10.879 --> 00:01:14.200 going pretty good as well as can be. It's really nice to be here 13 00:01:14.239 --> 00:01:15.920 on your show. You're run mine recently and we had a really good conversation. 14 00:01:17.640 --> 00:01:19.040 Yeah, I was just on there a few weeks back and if people 15 00:01:19.079 --> 00:01:25.519 caught that you've you've been really doing this for a long time. You told 16 00:01:25.560 --> 00:01:29.840 me before we started the show, that you've been doing this for twelve years 17 00:01:29.879 --> 00:01:34.879 now, I think you said, and I really want to get what your 18 00:01:34.959 --> 00:01:42.319 experience has been with this community and how your perspective on certain topics and ideas 19 00:01:42.400 --> 00:01:47.920 have changed things throughout the years, because you've seen a lot of things come 20 00:01:47.920 --> 00:01:49.920 and go and a lot of people come and go. So talk to us 21 00:01:49.959 --> 00:01:53.439 about that. Yeah, sure, thing. I'll try to keep it relatively 22 00:01:53.480 --> 00:01:57.920 simple. I've been doing this for i'd say professionally about eight years, but 23 00:01:57.959 --> 00:02:02.280 I've been doing radio since two thousand nine, two ten, so it's way 24 00:02:02.319 --> 00:02:06.879 over a decade, thirteen going on fourteen years. And yes, I have 25 00:02:06.959 --> 00:02:08.599 seen a lot of stuff. When I first began radio, it was a 26 00:02:08.680 --> 00:02:15.360 volunteer gig and I didn't know anything about anything, and so I initially just 27 00:02:15.560 --> 00:02:19.639 kind of talked about things that were interesting. I didn't really know what was 28 00:02:20.039 --> 00:02:22.879 what was real, what was not real, what's you know, a conspiracy? 29 00:02:22.960 --> 00:02:24.159 What's a theory? What's a conspiracy theory? I didn't know anything about 30 00:02:24.159 --> 00:02:29.360 anything. I just did whatever was interesting to talk about. And then over 31 00:02:29.840 --> 00:02:31.199 the years, I I read a lot of books and interviewed a lot of 32 00:02:31.199 --> 00:02:34.840 people, and I started to get more professional at what I did, and 33 00:02:34.879 --> 00:02:38.400 I started to make connections, and I went to events, conferences, things 34 00:02:38.400 --> 00:02:43.479 like that, and I started to notice that even in the so called alternative 35 00:02:43.520 --> 00:02:47.919 communities or in alternative radio, alternative podcasting, whatever you want to call it, 36 00:02:47.960 --> 00:02:53.520 whatever community or whatever term you want to apply, that people there just 37 00:02:53.680 --> 00:02:58.719 as biased and just as subjective as people that follow the mainstream of anything. 38 00:02:59.360 --> 00:03:04.759 And that really kind of wowed me. And it wasn't just political things. 39 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:08.599 It was things dealing with UFOs and dealing with conspiracy theories, and so I 40 00:03:08.639 --> 00:03:13.159 took a step back from all of that, from every side, of every 41 00:03:13.240 --> 00:03:19.000 angle, of every subject, and I really thought a process that probably took 42 00:03:19.000 --> 00:03:23.960 about two years of processing it in order for it to really turn into something 43 00:03:23.400 --> 00:03:28.039 of value for me. And I realized, Okay, so a lot of 44 00:03:28.039 --> 00:03:31.120 the stuff that we think is, you know, the mainline of viewpoints on 45 00:03:31.159 --> 00:03:38.520 everything is obviously not accurate. So that doesn't mean the alternative is always accurate. 46 00:03:38.599 --> 00:03:43.199 So I really started to study psychology and like fallacies and try to understand 47 00:03:43.280 --> 00:03:46.840 how all that works. And I use fallacies a lot on my show now. 48 00:03:46.840 --> 00:03:49.639 I use them as a grounding point, a base point to try to 49 00:03:49.680 --> 00:03:53.960 figure out what's really going on, So long story short to summarize, very 50 00:03:53.960 --> 00:03:58.800 briefly and very quickly, thirteen years later from when I started, I've come 51 00:03:58.840 --> 00:04:03.960 to the conclusion that there is as much disinformation, misinformation, wha could do, 52 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:09.000 ignorance and arrogance in the alternative world as there is in the mainstream world. 53 00:04:09.439 --> 00:04:12.719 And there are very very few places you can go and very few people 54 00:04:13.360 --> 00:04:16.199 authors, journalists, speakers, et cetera, very few people who have a 55 00:04:17.680 --> 00:04:23.240 grounded perspective and are able to have a conversation without trying to push some other 56 00:04:23.319 --> 00:04:28.879 alternative or independent or some crazy whack could do theory. So I guess simply 57 00:04:28.920 --> 00:04:32.199 to answer your question, as you take note of the fact that you know, 58 00:04:32.360 --> 00:04:38.000 people that watch certain mainline news have their own biases, people that watch 59 00:04:38.079 --> 00:04:40.920 certain alternative news have their own biases. But then you get into the world 60 00:04:41.000 --> 00:04:44.560 of like the alternative of the alternative. I don't know if you call it 61 00:04:44.680 --> 00:04:46.279 new age or whatevery term again we want to apply to it. But you 62 00:04:46.279 --> 00:04:49.000 get into that world and you start to realize that these people are just like 63 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:54.079 everybody else. Nobody has the answer to everything. We don't have the solutions, 64 00:04:54.480 --> 00:04:58.399 and the best thing to do is just have conversations and point out inconsistencies 65 00:04:58.439 --> 00:05:01.439 about interesting topics and see where that information leads us. And so that's where 66 00:05:01.519 --> 00:05:08.079 I've gone full circle over the last thirteen or so years. And it's weird 67 00:05:08.120 --> 00:05:15.040 because I'm at that exact same position you're in, just only three years into 68 00:05:15.079 --> 00:05:17.720 it, right, And I believe it's very clear that the more you dig 69 00:05:17.759 --> 00:05:24.639 into these topics and the more nonsense and hypocrisy that you find, right, 70 00:05:24.680 --> 00:05:28.920 and the more you have to use mental gymnastics to make sense of it. 71 00:05:29.040 --> 00:05:31.839 Right. And it's like you said, it's all filled with fallacies and lives 72 00:05:31.920 --> 00:05:39.879 and conjecture, and it seems like a blatant way to confuse everyone and divide 73 00:05:39.920 --> 00:05:43.360 this Yes, I think, I mean UFOs is a really great example. 74 00:05:43.399 --> 00:05:46.600 So for example, I'll give you my opinion on the UFO issue very quickly. 75 00:05:47.120 --> 00:05:51.920 I personally agree with Carl Young. I think that UFOs largely are a 76 00:05:51.920 --> 00:05:56.199 psychic phenomena, and I think that we are manifesting them. That doesn't mean 77 00:05:56.240 --> 00:05:59.959 that there aren't physical things, but I think we are manifesting them in the 78 00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:02.839 and pop culture. It's a new mythology. It's something that we can understand 79 00:06:02.839 --> 00:06:06.920 today with the ideas of space travel and you know, spaceships and things like 80 00:06:06.959 --> 00:06:13.120 this. It's a new mythology, it's a modern myth and it's something that 81 00:06:13.240 --> 00:06:17.680 again that doesn't mean it's not real, but it's not secret space programs that 82 00:06:17.720 --> 00:06:21.519 are run by crazy people on YouTube that have secret information every week. But 83 00:06:21.519 --> 00:06:26.680 there probably is a secret space program. And likewise, every UFO you see 84 00:06:26.680 --> 00:06:29.519 in the sky probably isn't an alien spaceship, but some of them might be 85 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:31.920 things that really are truly unidentifiable. And that's the only way we're going to 86 00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:39.319 get to any kind of real substance is if we take a balanced objective, 87 00:06:39.360 --> 00:06:43.519 as objective as possible approach the topics like that. And I'll tell you what 88 00:06:43.680 --> 00:06:46.079 the reason I bring this up as an example is because when I was at 89 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:47.839 Contact this year, I told a few people, I said, I just 90 00:06:47.920 --> 00:06:51.000 feel like UFOs are kind of like a psychic phenomenon. I said, it's 91 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:55.160 not my opinion that Carl Young said that years ago, decades ago, wrote 92 00:06:55.199 --> 00:06:58.319 a book on it, and oh my god, the reaction I got from 93 00:06:58.360 --> 00:07:02.240 people was just like I killed their savior, I killed Jesus Christ or something, 94 00:07:02.680 --> 00:07:04.879 and I didn't understand it. It's like, aren't we here to have 95 00:07:04.920 --> 00:07:10.639 a conversation, like an open dialogue about these fascinating things, and you just 96 00:07:10.639 --> 00:07:13.600 have a it's a theology, it's a belief system, writer, it's what 97 00:07:13.600 --> 00:07:16.519 it is. It's like a cult. That's exactly what it is. And 98 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:21.040 it's not really so much for the lack of information, right, It's that 99 00:07:21.079 --> 00:07:30.920 there's been an advanced, coordinated effort to mock people with complete and utter disinformation. 100 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:38.160 And that disinformation comes directly from the conspiracy community, the truth or community, 101 00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:43.639 the New Age community, and the UFO communities, is what I've found. 102 00:07:44.240 --> 00:07:46.759 Right, how many times have we heard I've studied a lot of these 103 00:07:46.800 --> 00:07:51.680 cults. I'm doing a series on the UFO cults right now, and they've 104 00:07:51.720 --> 00:08:00.560 been predicting mass landings of extraterrestrial races since the thirties and it's just never happened. 105 00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:05.160 Where are they? Why? Why haven't this shown up? All the 106 00:08:05.199 --> 00:08:09.720 predictions that never come true, all the people that are reincarnated as prophets, 107 00:08:09.800 --> 00:08:16.000 and you know people that are you know, these really famous people throughout history, 108 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:20.079 you know, like the David Wilcock Edgar Casey story. He's Edgar Casey 109 00:08:20.160 --> 00:08:24.800 reincarnated to people like Corey Good or what was he? He was the prophet 110 00:08:24.920 --> 00:08:28.279 Enoch. I think reincarnated. You know, it's these people always reincarnate as 111 00:08:28.319 --> 00:08:31.839 these really powerful I mean more than likely you were a peasant who worked in 112 00:08:31.879 --> 00:08:33.559 a field, or were you know, a slave at some point in history. 113 00:08:33.600 --> 00:08:37.559 You probably weren't a prophet or a king or a queen if you're reincarnated. 114 00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:43.720 But that it's it's delusional, and that this is what frustrates me personally. 115 00:08:43.799 --> 00:08:48.240 Writers that I love these topics. I love discussing, uh, you 116 00:08:48.279 --> 00:08:52.720 know, the supernatural. I love discussing UFOs. I love discussing, for 117 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:56.120 lack of a better term, conspiracies. I'm a huge history buff. I 118 00:08:56.159 --> 00:09:01.080 just read, I just wrote a huge history book myself, actually just published 119 00:09:01.080 --> 00:09:05.879 it. And I love all these things and and everything else. Like I'm 120 00:09:05.879 --> 00:09:07.480 just fascinated by anything and everything. I want to learn, learn, learn, 121 00:09:07.559 --> 00:09:13.879 learn, And I don't like when people knowingly or unknowingly, especially knowingly 122 00:09:13.360 --> 00:09:20.480 spread this information in the form of sensational garbage that gets clicks and clout online 123 00:09:20.919 --> 00:09:26.360 because it's fake, it's insincere, and it harms and does damage to good, 124 00:09:26.440 --> 00:09:31.320 honest people that want to grow and learn, and especially people that want 125 00:09:31.399 --> 00:09:39.360 to achieve some level of internal, introspective spiritual development. It really it takes 126 00:09:39.399 --> 00:09:43.919 advantage of those people, and that personally makes me really angry because I don't 127 00:09:43.960 --> 00:09:45.919 want to be taken advantage of, and I have been in the past, 128 00:09:45.960 --> 00:09:48.679 and I see other people being taken advantage of the day, and it's not 129 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:52.080 my responsibility to help those people. But I just that's fine. That's so 130 00:09:52.159 --> 00:09:54.519 disgusting and wrong, and that's what really makes me upset about all this stuff 131 00:09:54.559 --> 00:09:58.559 personally. Yeah, it's really sad that it's that way, right, It's 132 00:09:58.559 --> 00:10:05.080 sad you're looking for something more than what's going on in the mainstream, and 133 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:11.120 then you have to sift through all this nonsensical garbage fear mongering, right, 134 00:10:11.559 --> 00:10:16.519 And another really hard pill to swallow that I've realized, and you mentioned it 135 00:10:16.559 --> 00:10:22.039 earlier, is that the people in this community. And I'm not talking about 136 00:10:22.080 --> 00:10:24.320 my audience. My audience is great. I'm talking about other people. I 137 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:28.840 hope people don't ever think that I'm like talking about the people on my show 138 00:10:28.919 --> 00:10:33.519 or the people that are in the chatter or listening to this right now. 139 00:10:33.559 --> 00:10:37.559 I'm talking about the community as a whole. Right, They are just as 140 00:10:39.240 --> 00:10:45.639 brainwashed as the people that they're claiming are really brainwashed. They've just been hit 141 00:10:46.120 --> 00:10:50.279 in a different way, but it's all the same. The community has become 142 00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:56.440 its own worst enemy, right, and I'm really starting to get very disillusion 143 00:10:56.600 --> 00:11:00.919 with it. Right. It's literally filled with fear mongers. This is going 144 00:11:00.960 --> 00:11:03.759 to happen. Russia is going to hit us with a cyber attack next week. 145 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:07.960 Our money is going to collapse, food is no longer going to be 146 00:11:07.960 --> 00:11:11.799 available. Society is on the brink of disaster every single day with these people, 147 00:11:11.639 --> 00:11:16.360 and it hasn't happened. And critical thinking makes me see that it's never 148 00:11:16.440 --> 00:11:22.759 going to happen unless we make it happen, right, That's the only way 149 00:11:22.879 --> 00:11:26.919 we have to make it happen. It's exactly like these UFO calts that I've 150 00:11:26.919 --> 00:11:31.519 been covering. They're just stringing along their followers like with the UFO cats. 151 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:35.240 Any day now, the UFOs are going to show up and land and rapture 152 00:11:35.320 --> 00:11:39.240 us up into the next evolutionary level above human where we're going to be transformed 153 00:11:39.279 --> 00:11:45.679 into extraterrestrials. And it never happens, but they're still there waiting. The 154 00:11:45.679 --> 00:11:50.320 truth community and the conspiracy community and the extraterrestrial UFO community is the exact same 155 00:11:50.399 --> 00:11:54.679 way. They're just leading the people along. Yeah, And you know what, 156 00:11:54.799 --> 00:11:58.919 I it was honestly a surprise over the years to me, going back 157 00:11:58.919 --> 00:12:01.440 to your original question, it's kind of a surprise to me to find so 158 00:12:01.519 --> 00:12:05.639 much of that in communities or at you know, conferences, or around people 159 00:12:05.720 --> 00:12:11.399 that you would assume have much more open minds and should be able to engage 160 00:12:11.399 --> 00:12:16.120 in very objective, you know, dialogue about complex issues or issues that are 161 00:12:16.120 --> 00:12:20.399 really difficult to really nail down, like something you know, paranormal, supernatural 162 00:12:20.519 --> 00:12:24.440 UFO related. So, you know, going back to that first question again, 163 00:12:24.559 --> 00:12:26.120 you would ask me like what my experience has been through all this. 164 00:12:26.159 --> 00:12:28.240 And I don't know if you remember this, but I'm sure a lot of 165 00:12:28.399 --> 00:12:33.679 people listening don't. I don't talk about it much anymore. But when I 166 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:35.960 was at Contact in the Desert, what was it, twenty seventeen, twenty 167 00:12:37.159 --> 00:12:41.240 eighteen, and Jordan Saylor, who was making the rounds, was there and 168 00:12:41.279 --> 00:12:48.159 he had done a presentation about QAnon and I wasn't trying to be you know, 169 00:12:48.279 --> 00:12:52.759 like a really nasty, angry heckler. I just went up to him 170 00:12:52.799 --> 00:12:56.039 after the presentation. He was outside on the lawn of the court yard of 171 00:12:56.039 --> 00:13:00.440 the hotel and he had a bunch of people around him, and I it's 172 00:13:00.480 --> 00:13:03.200 on video. I just respectfully said, hey, I got a question. 173 00:13:03.759 --> 00:13:09.399 Everything you're saying sounds like some kind of theological dogma. You're talking about like 174 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:13.600 basically Reptilians and Plaidians. It's like demons and angels. You're talking about God 175 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:18.200 and the devil. There's the deep State versus the cabal. It's this heaven 176 00:13:18.279 --> 00:13:22.320 hell, good and evil conflict, this dichotomy, this polarity. It just 177 00:13:22.360 --> 00:13:26.240 sounds like it sounds like a cult. And and it's like there's like maybe 178 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:28.399 five percent of the Quanon stuff that's real, and a majority of it is 179 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:35.000 just an exaggeration, sensationalism and just scarbage. It's nonsense, but it could 180 00:13:35.039 --> 00:13:37.879 be based on something real. And I even pointed that out, and so 181 00:13:37.919 --> 00:13:41.360 they said that that was heckling. They said that I attacked him. But 182 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:46.679 because of that event, that that got my name injected more into the groups 183 00:13:46.679 --> 00:13:50.519 of those people who who do that kind of stuff professionally and rip people off 184 00:13:50.559 --> 00:13:54.240 to make a living. And that same weekend I had talked to I don't 185 00:13:54.279 --> 00:13:56.879 know if you remember this. I had talked to Emory Smith and I got 186 00:13:56.919 --> 00:14:01.720 the audio clip of Emory Smith's saying that, yeah, Jordan's Saylor had dosed 187 00:14:01.879 --> 00:14:07.039 them, and Corey Good had given the had given the go ahead to do 188 00:14:07.080 --> 00:14:09.720 the dock scene, and Jordan's say there was the main docks or releasing everybody's 189 00:14:09.759 --> 00:14:15.720 personal information, and David Wilcock had threatened them to make threatened Themorysmith to make 190 00:14:15.759 --> 00:14:18.759 things up or he'd be out of the grift, and he just I mean, 191 00:14:18.960 --> 00:14:20.320 I don't know if I can trust everything the guy said. But just 192 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:24.000 because I got that little clip of audio, I mean it like it was 193 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:31.039 like a nuclear bomb detonated within this these communities and everybody just went at each 194 00:14:31.080 --> 00:14:35.159 other, and it's just so bizarre. It shouldn't be like that. Maybe 195 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:37.200 I'm idealistic, but that's why I do what I do writer, because and 196 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:39.480 I know that's why you do what you do. I get so sick of 197 00:14:39.519 --> 00:14:43.720 the line, and then to expose the line and get treated like you're the 198 00:14:43.759 --> 00:14:48.759 wire. It's really weird. It is really really it's interesting that you brought 199 00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:52.639 up Q and on because I just did a UFO call video doomsday call video 200 00:14:52.960 --> 00:14:58.480 party last week with the I Am called with Guy and Edna Ballard here and 201 00:14:58.759 --> 00:15:05.759 yeah, literally, you dude, if you just switch out Trump and JFK. 202 00:15:05.200 --> 00:15:11.480 Junior that was supposed to be running the Q and on nonsense, uh, 203 00:15:11.480 --> 00:15:16.879 with Guy and the ballot here, you have the exact same thing. 204 00:15:18.799 --> 00:15:22.960 It's almost the exact same thing that was going on in the thirties. It's 205 00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:26.200 like it's like a cult mad lib. You just fill in the fill in 206 00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:31.440 the blanks. Yeah, it's unbelievable. I mean, the whole Saint Jermaine 207 00:15:31.559 --> 00:15:37.399 thing turned into a Saint Jermain Trust that was going to restore the gold standard 208 00:15:37.480 --> 00:15:41.919 to the money that we use, and then we were going to be that 209 00:15:41.240 --> 00:15:45.519 Saint Jermaine was going to take over the government with the Ascended Masters, that 210 00:15:45.600 --> 00:15:50.960 the Ascended Masters are going to overthrow the government and in still a new government 211 00:15:50.159 --> 00:15:54.240 sound that we were going to be put into this new age of humanity. 212 00:15:56.279 --> 00:16:00.120 It's the exact same thing, dude. That's what I've discovered is that these 213 00:16:00.159 --> 00:16:04.399 stories and these ideas and these thought forms are these aggregors is what I call 214 00:16:04.440 --> 00:16:11.600 them, have been created and then they just constantly get regurgitated with a new 215 00:16:11.639 --> 00:16:15.519 and different spin on it. Someone else gets ahold of it, a new 216 00:16:15.559 --> 00:16:18.840 generation gets ahold of it. They don't know where it came from because it's 217 00:16:18.879 --> 00:16:23.120 been a passed down through so many different people where they don't realize where it 218 00:16:23.159 --> 00:16:27.639 came from when it came from one of these UFO cults, right, And 219 00:16:27.639 --> 00:16:32.519 then they take that information and then they add just a little bit of stuff 220 00:16:32.559 --> 00:16:36.279 onto it and then create their own ascended masters, like a guy and the 221 00:16:36.360 --> 00:16:40.960 Ballard here did with Elena Brovlovski and a few other of the occult writers of 222 00:16:41.000 --> 00:16:45.200 the time, ripped off them, created their own ascended masters, and then 223 00:16:45.320 --> 00:16:49.200 that's just what happens since then. As there's a lot of that. There's 224 00:16:49.240 --> 00:16:52.919 a lot of people that and I mean these are names that are if anybody 225 00:16:53.200 --> 00:16:56.360 listening pays attention to any of this stuff or listens even you know, a 226 00:16:56.399 --> 00:17:00.000 little bit to radio or podcasts, et cetera, you know what I'm talking 227 00:17:00.039 --> 00:17:03.240 about. There's a lot of people that take on names like there's people I've 228 00:17:03.240 --> 00:17:06.759 seen two or three people at conferences. I know this isn't their real name, 229 00:17:06.759 --> 00:17:10.000 but they go by the name Saint Jermaine. There's people that name themselves 230 00:17:10.079 --> 00:17:12.640 Thoth. There's I met. I met Raw, the sun God at the 231 00:17:12.680 --> 00:17:15.599 conference. I don't know if I told you that his name was Raw. 232 00:17:15.160 --> 00:17:18.359 Yeah, I met him too. Yeah, nice to meet your right. 233 00:17:18.359 --> 00:17:21.880 I didn't know that the Egyptian sun God made it over here to Arizona at 234 00:17:21.880 --> 00:17:23.640 a conference I went to. And it's just like I don't. I don't 235 00:17:23.720 --> 00:17:27.519 get it, Like I don't. It's creating this persona. It's so fake, 236 00:17:29.039 --> 00:17:36.440 it's so disingenuous, it's so dishonest, and it is so it's so 237 00:17:36.680 --> 00:17:42.720 conflicting with the sincerity of some really good actual researchers or journalists. I'll tell 238 00:17:42.720 --> 00:17:47.119 you one thing real quick that I that I saw that really was a turning 239 00:17:47.160 --> 00:17:48.640 point for me. It was at Contact in the Desert in like two thousand. 240 00:17:49.039 --> 00:17:52.680 It was six sixteen, one of the first years I went. And 241 00:17:52.720 --> 00:17:56.039 I got up, got up early one morning, and I went up to 242 00:17:56.279 --> 00:18:00.799 the main hall where there was going to be a speaker, and the speaker 243 00:18:00.880 --> 00:18:04.160 after this speaker was going to be uh, you know, Stephen Greer, 244 00:18:04.279 --> 00:18:07.400 and he was going to show some movie he had made. And so at 245 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:11.319 the door to the entrance of this big hall where they were going to have 246 00:18:11.359 --> 00:18:15.799 this presentation. Uh, Jim Mars, famous journalist author, he was, 247 00:18:15.880 --> 00:18:18.119 he had his set up there. Personally, I just thought Jim Mars was 248 00:18:18.160 --> 00:18:21.920 a very respectable person. He was a friend of mine, and he had 249 00:18:21.960 --> 00:18:25.720 his set up, he had his books there, and I was actually spending 250 00:18:25.759 --> 00:18:29.599 some time with him, and I remember his assistant got up to go somewhere, 251 00:18:30.119 --> 00:18:30.960 and he decided to get up and go to the restroom. So he 252 00:18:30.960 --> 00:18:34.319 asked me if I could watch his table. So I'm watching Jim's table and 253 00:18:34.759 --> 00:18:40.160 here comes Stephen Greer and his goons that are wearing bulletproof vests for some reason, 254 00:18:40.200 --> 00:18:42.440 with like tasers and handguns you know, all around like a bat belt 255 00:18:44.240 --> 00:18:48.559 because they're they're they're threatened by something and it's all it's all for show. 256 00:18:48.720 --> 00:18:52.680 So they like set their stuff down on Jim's table and it's his table. 257 00:18:52.720 --> 00:18:56.920 They you know, they give you at these organized events, they give these 258 00:18:56.079 --> 00:19:00.680 speakers a table. It's your table, and Stephen Green people just put their 259 00:19:00.680 --> 00:19:03.359 stuff down and I said, hey, you can't, like you can put 260 00:19:03.400 --> 00:19:04.359 your stuff down for a second, but you can't keep it there. They 261 00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:06.920 said, oh no, no, no, we're taking this table. And 262 00:19:06.960 --> 00:19:10.920 they just push Jim mars is stuff, you know, off the table. 263 00:19:10.920 --> 00:19:14.359 They start to push it off the table, and I'm just like, I 264 00:19:14.440 --> 00:19:15.640 mean, I don't care who it is. Even if it was just some 265 00:19:15.799 --> 00:19:18.359 random person who wrote a random book, it wasn't Jim Mars, Like, 266 00:19:18.400 --> 00:19:22.519 it's so disrespectful and like, just someone that acts like that is what Stephen 267 00:19:22.519 --> 00:19:25.960 Greer did. It's someone that acts like that. How can I trust that 268 00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:30.240 person to tell me anything that is truthful or honest if it's something so minimal, 269 00:19:30.599 --> 00:19:34.079 something so simple, You're just going to be that much of a low 270 00:19:34.119 --> 00:19:38.200 life degenerate about I can't trust anything you say, just little things like that. 271 00:19:38.240 --> 00:19:41.480 Over the years I've experienced and people ask me, like, why don't 272 00:19:41.519 --> 00:19:44.720 you like Stephen Greer? There's a great even if what he's saying is true, 273 00:19:44.759 --> 00:19:47.119 Like, how can I trust the guy when he acts like that? 274 00:19:47.200 --> 00:19:51.119 You know? That's the kind of thing that gets me. Yeah, fireflies, 275 00:19:51.240 --> 00:19:55.880 I'm pretty sure that was raw that converted the tanning beds and the med 276 00:19:55.960 --> 00:20:04.039 beds and then try to sell med beds sessions from verted tanning bed Yeah, 277 00:20:03.839 --> 00:20:07.039 yeah, as are probably expensive sessions. Two fireflies, it's like two three 278 00:20:07.039 --> 00:20:11.359 thousand dollars a session. Oh yeah, there, but it's imbued. It's 279 00:20:11.359 --> 00:20:15.960 imbued with the energy of doctors. Yeah, ros the god of the Sun, 280 00:20:15.960 --> 00:20:18.240 anyway, couldn't he just like bring down the sun, raise and give 281 00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:21.599 you a nice tan and heal you with the rays of the sun. And 282 00:20:21.640 --> 00:20:23.160 why he needs a tanning bed to do that? But all right, yeah, 283 00:20:23.200 --> 00:20:26.960 it's unbelievable. And not of all the people in the world, that 284 00:20:27.000 --> 00:20:32.279 guy gets picked to be the incarnation of the sun god am and Raw. 285 00:20:32.480 --> 00:20:36.279 Right, you know, there's a there's a more powerful A lot of people 286 00:20:36.279 --> 00:20:37.960 don't know. This is I just wrote a book called Garden of Hallucinations, 287 00:20:38.400 --> 00:20:41.839 and this book I when I was on research for it, I found this 288 00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:47.079 god I'd never heard of before. And he Raw is considered the most powerful 289 00:20:47.119 --> 00:20:51.240 sun god of the most powerful god of the entire Egyptian pantheon. But there 290 00:20:51.359 --> 00:20:55.400 is one god in Egypt who is above all the other gods. His name 291 00:20:55.519 --> 00:20:59.079 is Heck or Heca, h e Ka, more powerful than all the other 292 00:20:59.119 --> 00:21:03.079 gods. So I'm just the reincarnation of Hecca and Robs my subordinate. And 293 00:21:04.039 --> 00:21:06.720 there's more to come on that. I'll let you know. You know, 294 00:21:06.759 --> 00:21:10.680 we'll dose some channeling sessions with this really powerful Egyptian god writer. I am 295 00:21:10.720 --> 00:21:15.680 Hecca reincarnated. Well, as long as it's not Hecker reincarnated. I think 296 00:21:15.759 --> 00:21:18.359 you'll. I think you'll be all right. How can you just I don't 297 00:21:18.440 --> 00:21:21.799 understand. I just I felt like an idiot even joking about that, Like, 298 00:21:21.839 --> 00:21:23.039 how do you say that with a straight face and make money from it? 299 00:21:23.359 --> 00:21:27.240 I don't think we have someone in the house. Hound Dog has got 300 00:21:27.279 --> 00:21:30.880 one of your books. Brother, Hey, that's wonderful. Oh, Occult 301 00:21:30.960 --> 00:21:36.079 Arcana. It's a big book. I hope that you enjoy it. And 302 00:21:36.200 --> 00:21:40.240 hound Dog also sent a two dollars super chat and thanks so much hand Dog, 303 00:21:40.279 --> 00:21:45.319 appreciate your kindness, generosity and support of the show. Yeah, it's 304 00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:52.920 unbelievable these Uh. I'm really kind of back and forth with Stephen Greer a 305 00:21:52.920 --> 00:21:57.400 lot because some things he says is like, okay, you know, like 306 00:21:57.720 --> 00:22:03.240 he was one of the first people that I hear talk about the my lab 307 00:22:03.480 --> 00:22:06.839 military abductions, which I think that's what all of them are. I don't 308 00:22:06.839 --> 00:22:11.640 think they're extra trestrials. I think is literally the military that's doing the abductions. 309 00:22:11.319 --> 00:22:17.279 And uh, but I agree with you a lot of the other stuff 310 00:22:17.279 --> 00:22:21.640 you talk it's just not then his documentaries, it's just the same thing over 311 00:22:21.680 --> 00:22:25.079 and over and over again. And any crowdfunds. All the making of his 312 00:22:25.200 --> 00:22:29.920 documentaries, it takes like what twenty thousand, thirty thousand dollars to make and 313 00:22:29.960 --> 00:22:33.599 then he's crowdfunding like five hundred thousand dollars to a million dollars, Like, 314 00:22:33.640 --> 00:22:37.880 where's all that money going? Bro? You know, it doesn't take five 315 00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:41.400 hundred thousand dollars to make one of your documentaries. I just made a documentary 316 00:22:41.480 --> 00:22:47.279 JFKX Solving the Crime of This Century for like a thousand dollars and a month 317 00:22:47.319 --> 00:22:49.400 of my time. Yeah, I went to film school, and anything we 318 00:22:49.400 --> 00:22:52.359 did in film school, I mean, once you have the cameras and little 319 00:22:52.440 --> 00:22:56.759 editing editing equipment, it doesn't cost you know that much money, Right, 320 00:22:56.119 --> 00:22:59.880 This is a This is what a lot of them do. They It's like 321 00:23:00.200 --> 00:23:03.000 there's a tiny bit of sincerity and a tiny bit of genuineness and they just 322 00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:10.039 use that as the source of ripping people off. Because you tell people like, 323 00:23:10.079 --> 00:23:11.599 we want to find the truth, we want to find answers, we 324 00:23:11.640 --> 00:23:15.279 want to we want to figure things out, and the average person wants the 325 00:23:15.319 --> 00:23:18.000 truth and they want to figure things out, and they want the answers to 326 00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:22.960 life's big questions. So you follow someone who promises you that and they just 327 00:23:22.000 --> 00:23:23.880 constantly tell you, well, we need more money to do it, We 328 00:23:23.920 --> 00:23:26.079 need more money to figure this out, we need more money for the truth. 329 00:23:26.559 --> 00:23:30.720 It's it's it's I don't even call it a grift, though, writer, 330 00:23:30.119 --> 00:23:34.960 because a grift is by definition a small swinder swindle. This isn't a 331 00:23:36.000 --> 00:23:40.599 small swindle. These people are engaged in massive, massive swindles. I mean, 332 00:23:40.640 --> 00:23:42.759 some of this stuff is I'm I've heard other people talk about on their 333 00:23:42.799 --> 00:23:47.880 on their shows before too. A lot of this stuff is like illegal consumer 334 00:23:47.960 --> 00:23:51.480 fraud. These people are engaged in et cetera. So anyway, I saw 335 00:23:51.480 --> 00:23:55.519 the listener they said, Hecate That's that's a different goddess. I'm talking about 336 00:23:55.559 --> 00:23:59.440 heca h e ka, it's an Egyptian god. But oh yeah, Joe 337 00:23:59.720 --> 00:24:07.559 Joe's yeah, yeah, there's a few Greer fans in here. But I 338 00:24:07.559 --> 00:24:15.160 mean King James says that Greer talks about kidnapping, the DNA harvesting and probing, 339 00:24:15.960 --> 00:24:19.480 and it's a probably a probing and probing is a friendly endeavor. Yes, 340 00:24:21.240 --> 00:24:22.599 take it up. The bove from s extra trust. They they don't 341 00:24:22.640 --> 00:24:26.279 want to hurt you. They probe your wallet is what they're doing. They're 342 00:24:26.319 --> 00:24:32.440 prob making sure they get all the dollars out. Well. If I may 343 00:24:32.480 --> 00:24:36.839 add one more thing to the to this is when you think about like the 344 00:24:37.359 --> 00:24:37.880 I don't know what, I don't know, I don't know what to call 345 00:24:37.920 --> 00:24:41.039 it anymore, writer, but the UFO community whatever, I don't know what 346 00:24:41.119 --> 00:24:45.680 to call it. But you think about the UFO community, the history of 347 00:24:45.720 --> 00:24:48.440 it. We talked about this on my show when you were on there. 348 00:24:48.559 --> 00:24:52.440 There are plenty of hard like physical black and white government records. You can 349 00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:55.400 get your hands on them. I don't know how much of those you want 350 00:24:55.400 --> 00:24:59.839 to trust. But there's a famous document called the Robertson Panel Report from nineteen 351 00:25:00.279 --> 00:25:03.400 fifty two fifty three, and in that document the government was talking this was 352 00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:08.200 like early intelligence agency years, right. They were talking about infiltrating UFO groups. 353 00:25:08.599 --> 00:25:12.160 They admitted, they acknowledged there's something going on. There's some kind of 354 00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:15.319 phenomena. They don't know even necessarily what it is, but they know that 355 00:25:15.359 --> 00:25:19.880 people are interested in it, and so they wanted to infiltrate UFO groups with 356 00:25:19.960 --> 00:25:26.960 agents to discredit, and also just to keep an eye on what those groups 357 00:25:26.960 --> 00:25:29.759 were doing to see if maybe they figured something out before the government figured it 358 00:25:29.759 --> 00:25:33.559 out. And part of the way that they were going to kind of manipulate 359 00:25:33.599 --> 00:25:36.720 the public was not just infiltrating those groups and keeping an eye on people like 360 00:25:36.839 --> 00:25:41.319 Richard Dotty did and you've seen the movie Garagan, but it was also spreading 361 00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:48.519 this information within those groups and using Disney and other forms of entertainment, colleges, 362 00:25:48.559 --> 00:25:52.880 etc. To intentionally spread this information and going into the media and taking 363 00:25:52.920 --> 00:25:57.920 something that looks like a really unexplainable event and unexplainable object, but they know 364 00:25:59.000 --> 00:26:02.319 what it is, so when they present it to the public, it's unexplainable, 365 00:26:02.559 --> 00:26:04.400 it's bizarre, it's odd. But then a couple of weeks later they 366 00:26:04.440 --> 00:26:07.599 come out and they give you, oh, this is the answer. It's 367 00:26:07.599 --> 00:26:11.440 a plane, it's this or that. So they can discredit things that were 368 00:26:11.480 --> 00:26:15.680 never credible, and then they can keep quiet things that nobody can explain that 369 00:26:15.960 --> 00:26:21.200 really should be addressed and investigated. And that's from nineteen fifty three, and 370 00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:23.160 then we saw all these Hollywood movies come out. I mean even at that 371 00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:26.519 time, but many years later, throughout the fifties and sixties. I mean, 372 00:26:26.519 --> 00:26:34.279 this has been ongoing, these psychological behavioral type nudging propaganda campaigns. So 373 00:26:34.319 --> 00:26:38.720 there is something real about all of this stuff, but there's so much fake 374 00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:42.680 stuff that it just gets completely buried and it's hard to know where to start 375 00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:47.720 looking. Why do you think that they would want to do that. Why 376 00:26:47.759 --> 00:26:51.680 do you think that they would want to infiltrate these UFO groups and spread all 377 00:26:51.680 --> 00:26:55.039 this miss and disinformation. I mean, I can only think of two reasons. 378 00:26:55.119 --> 00:26:59.079 One, it's a real phenomena and they want to throw people off the 379 00:26:59.160 --> 00:27:02.799 scent of what's really happening. Or Two, they're trying to cover up their 380 00:27:02.839 --> 00:27:07.279 own technology and that it's their craft that has been developed and they're trying to 381 00:27:07.319 --> 00:27:11.880 get it people off of this scent that it's really them the entire time, 382 00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:18.240 but blaming it on extraterstrials as the scapegoat really gets everybody to look in the 383 00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:22.039 opposite direction of what's actually happening. I actually think it's probably a little bit 384 00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:27.599 of both of those things, maybe more so the former, but it's probably 385 00:27:27.640 --> 00:27:30.519 a combination of both. I mean, a person in my personal opinion. 386 00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:34.920 What I think the reason for that is is, I mean, this is 387 00:27:34.960 --> 00:27:37.960 at a time at the end of World War Two, and obviously this was 388 00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:41.559 during and prior to the end of World War two as well. You had 389 00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:45.400 food fighters and ghost rockets, and you had the Battle of Los Angeles, 390 00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:48.039 that etheric type thing over LA and you also had etheroric discs that were seen 391 00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:52.759 in Spine for Germany in nineteen forty three, I think it was and over 392 00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:56.599 time those etheric things and the ghost rockets and the food fighters became more physical. 393 00:27:56.680 --> 00:28:00.920 Part of that idea of that's really a psychic phenomena that's been literally manifested 394 00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:04.359 as an aggregor tulpa, thought form, goalum, etc. So I think 395 00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:07.839 a lot of it, yes, has to do certainly with military technology, 396 00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:15.119 but also we can speculate and theorize beyond that and think maybe whatever these things 397 00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:17.720 are, I don't know what they are. Stephen Grew doesn't know what they 398 00:28:17.720 --> 00:28:18.920 are. If anybody knew exactly what they are, that has shown us one 399 00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:22.799 hundred percent and disputable evidence by now. So whatever these things are, and 400 00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:27.279 there's probably a lot of different aspects and angles to them, different ways to 401 00:28:27.319 --> 00:28:32.839 look at them, different interpretations whatever they are, though it's probably a matter 402 00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:37.599 of one government doesn't want the public to panic. I do believe that because 403 00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:42.240 if they don't know what it is and it's interfering with military technology, I 404 00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:45.880 mean, it's a threat to every country on the planet. It's a big 405 00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:48.920 threat to humanity. They probably want to keep that secret. I do buy 406 00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:52.319 that a little tiny bit, But part of it probably is just using that 407 00:28:52.359 --> 00:28:55.759 as a scapegoat like they did throughout the Cold War to test, you know, 408 00:28:55.839 --> 00:28:59.599 the SR seventy one and spy planes, and then that really just became 409 00:28:59.680 --> 00:29:02.880 a part of the pop culture, part of the mythology. It makes a 410 00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:04.599 lot of money when you make an alien movie. People love alien movies, 411 00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:10.480 they love alien conversation. So it just it developed outside of the mythology. 412 00:29:10.519 --> 00:29:14.559 It developed as sort of a commercialized product, and I think the government now 413 00:29:14.720 --> 00:29:18.359 uses it just like you know, just like people on video various streaming platforms 414 00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:22.079 and podcasts do. When you really want a good show topic and you really 415 00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:26.799 want people to listen and pay attention, you got to name your show Illuminati. 416 00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:30.279 Alien reptilians flying UFOs down to Earth and abduct people in probram People love 417 00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:33.640 topics like that, the hashtags, it just draws people in. So the 418 00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:37.079 government. Government does the same thing. When you want something to distract the 419 00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:41.000 public from a political scandal. Suddenly, oh look there's UFO documents, and 420 00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:45.480 both political sides of the spectrum do it. You know they're involved in some 421 00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:48.720 kind of corruption. Suddenly, oh we might release if you vote for me, 422 00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:52.359 we'll release those UFFO documents real quick. It's it's the same thing as 423 00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:56.880 far as I'm concerned. Same with the JFK files too. Oh yeah, 424 00:29:56.920 --> 00:30:00.319 well I get in. Now we're gonna release all those JFK files in there, 425 00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:03.519 and they never do it, and now they're all sealed. You're never 426 00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:08.160 going to be released. Jeannette, I think that that's also a scapegoat as 427 00:30:08.200 --> 00:30:15.640 well. I'm leaning toward because a lot of people and even myself I decided 428 00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:18.680 that they started out as you know, German craft, and that's what people 429 00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:23.160 have been seen. But I think that that it's quite possibly another scapegoat to 430 00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:29.039 put the fall on. You know, it's not if it doesn't turn out 431 00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:32.240 that it's extra terrestrials. Oh it was the Germans. It was all them, 432 00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:36.640 you know, pawning it off onto a different country or a different group 433 00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:40.039 of people, like they're are so fond of doing all the time. But 434 00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:45.079 I think that there is some truth to that, the Glaca bell technology and 435 00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:48.359 the Snora Ara Club which was also funded by Prussia, which was Germany before 436 00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:55.200 Germany was Germany, and northern California. So I think that there is some 437 00:30:55.279 --> 00:31:00.720 truth there. But I think that it's it's also kind of a scapegoatie thing 438 00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:04.880 to try and possibly fall back on sometime in the future if things don't work 439 00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:08.039 out according to their plans. I was just I was just thinking that, 440 00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:12.960 like having this conversation with your rider, and then if you go to I 441 00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:15.920 don't know, whatever the streaming platform is. There's a bunch of platforms. 442 00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:19.559 You listen to other podcasts, radio shows, etc. You know. I 443 00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:23.079 don't like advertising personally. I'm not a good marketer. I'm not a good 444 00:31:23.079 --> 00:31:26.960 advertisers don't. I don't like it. It doesn't resonate with me. But 445 00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:30.279 I understand why people advertise and why people, you know, they want to 446 00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:33.799 make, you know, their image look good. I don't like this idea 447 00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:37.000 of selling the truth, and I don't like this idea of selling like we've 448 00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:41.519 got secret information you see this everywhere. It's like everybody knows exactly what aliens, 449 00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:44.400 you know, aliens are, They know what UFOs are. They've got 450 00:31:44.480 --> 00:31:48.119 lists of the different species, like sixty seven ninety five species, Like how 451 00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:51.279 do you have a list of that? That doesn't make what are you talking 452 00:31:51.319 --> 00:31:53.079 about? Right? Is the same thing with like you know, directed energy 453 00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:57.960 weapons every overnight, just like that, instaneously, every every hack with a 454 00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:04.480 TikTok account has the same exact, you know, ability to just get to 455 00:32:04.519 --> 00:32:07.559 the heart the hardcore truth of the matter overnight, just like that. Nobody 456 00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:12.119 else knows what happened, but this guy on TikTok knows exactly what went down, 457 00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:15.119 and I just don't. It's it's everything. It's the commoditizing, is 458 00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:20.359 the commercializing, the packaging and the selling of truth because people want the truth, 459 00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:23.400 people want honesty, and people just sell the truth and what they actually 460 00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:25.759 give you it's false advertising. What they actually give you just a bunch of 461 00:32:25.799 --> 00:32:31.440 bs. Yeah, and I'm glad that you brought up the directed energy weapon 462 00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:37.440 do stuff because that is well, you gotta do the do, do the 463 00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:40.640 due all day long. Drink the dude, do the dude, touch the 464 00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:49.039 dude. But it seems like that that really just kind of popped up overnight. 465 00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:52.519 It's exactly what you're saying. It's almost exactly like the whole AI thing 466 00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:57.799 as well. Right, how everyone before was like, oh, I'll never 467 00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:01.519 I'll never use AI to make any artificial generated photos, I'll never use AI 468 00:33:01.599 --> 00:33:05.359 to write any of my music or write any of my papers, And then 469 00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:08.759 all of a sudden GPT comes along and then everyone's using it. Right, 470 00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:14.240 all the things that they said prior there's just nothing now, and it's like 471 00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:17.400 they forgot that they said any of that. And there's many of examples of 472 00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:21.799 that throughout history where people are like, oh, I'll never let them do 473 00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:23.680 that to me, I'll never fall for that, and then as soon as 474 00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:27.960 it comes out they do it. They fall for it. They fall for 475 00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:31.240 it every time, you know, because it's never the way, it's never 476 00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:36.519 done the way that they think that it's going to be done, something unexpected, 477 00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:42.200 something unexpected. And also it may I mean, it's easier to just 478 00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:45.319 say well, I'm not going to do that, I'm going to resist that. 479 00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:50.400 It's easy to say that before there's any consequences. It's a lot harder 480 00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:54.599 to actually do that when there are consequences. Yeah, so I want to 481 00:33:54.640 --> 00:34:00.680 talk to you about these fires in Hawaii because it did seem like everybody just 482 00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:07.920 jumped on the do the Do bandwagon. You know it's dues. It was 483 00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:12.599 the dudes. I know it was the dudes. You know. So what's 484 00:34:12.639 --> 00:34:16.880 your thoughts in your opinions on what happened in Hawaii? Because to me, 485 00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:22.880 it looks like just a bunch of negligence, right, they just did everything 486 00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:27.800 wrong. So I have a few thoughts. I'll try to try to keep 487 00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:30.480 them coherent. First of all, I don't know about you, but I'm 488 00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:37.239 tired of words and acronyms in these discussions turning into verbs, like when people 489 00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:38.559 like they're doing us, Like, what do you mean they're doing you? 490 00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:42.840 That's not a word, first of all, Like or they ad drene a 491 00:34:42.880 --> 00:34:45.280 chrome to those kids. What do you mean they ad drene a chrome with 492 00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:49.159 those kids? That's not even that's not a word either. So I get 493 00:34:49.159 --> 00:34:53.400 tired of the making up of words, first of all. Back in twenty 494 00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:59.719 eighteen, I did a show about directed energy weapons on the Secret Teachings, 495 00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:04.519 and I used I have these this promo picture that retaining their promo picture, 496 00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:07.079 I make for every show, and it's a compilation. It's before I really 497 00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:10.280 knew how to do really good artwork for my show promos. But I like 498 00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:17.000 compilation of pictures of directed energy weapons, like from Lockheed Martin's website, raytheon 499 00:35:17.079 --> 00:35:20.960 stuff that they were talking there's like stock photos. It's not real weapons like 500 00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:25.000 stock photos CG stuff. And there was a picture I had in this compilation 501 00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:31.119 of a rocket launch. It was a Falcon nine rocket launching from Vandenberg Air 502 00:35:31.159 --> 00:35:35.840 Force or what they call Space Force Base in California. Yes, right, 503 00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:39.440 and that was in twenty eighteen. I have that image and my compilation, 504 00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:45.920 and then as soon as this story about Hawaii broke, I start seeing the 505 00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:49.760 same image everywhere. So I didn't have to do any research at all. 506 00:35:49.880 --> 00:35:52.360 Initially, I just had to go online and look at people sharing this picture 507 00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:57.639 and I just kept I commented on every Twitter, every Facebook post I could 508 00:35:57.719 --> 00:36:00.880 find. Those are the only social media sites I have. I said, 509 00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:04.639 that's a Falcon X rocket. People would tell me you're working for somebody, 510 00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:06.920 you're covering up the truth. I'm like, no, no, here's my 511 00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:10.679 compilation from twenty eighteen. It's it's like the date is stamped on it. 512 00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:15.239 I made it in twenty eighteen. Here's the show link from twenty eighteen. 513 00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:19.519 That's a picture from five years ago that's not from Hawaii. And I noticed 514 00:36:19.519 --> 00:36:22.599 something else. I noticed that on my Facebook page, writer I started. 515 00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:25.239 I got two of them, two people that I don't I'm very discerning about 516 00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:30.039 who i'd be friend. Two people I don't know. I never clicked friend 517 00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:32.719 except I have. They have like no friends themselves. This is the photo 518 00:36:32.760 --> 00:36:36.840 you're speaking about rain, Yes, And if you find the real the original 519 00:36:36.840 --> 00:36:39.280 photo, it's not cropped at the top. The original photo, you can 520 00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:45.239 actually see the rocket in the air, so it's they crop it as well 521 00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:47.599 to make it look like some kind of laser hitting the ground when it's clearly 522 00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:51.920 a rocket in the original picture. Yeah, I'm gonna bring up that original 523 00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:54.599 picture to keep going. I just want people to see this and see the 524 00:36:55.719 --> 00:37:00.000 fallacies of it. Okay, here's the original picture. Yeah, there's the 525 00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:02.760 rocket or that's one of them. Is that the same one? But yeah, 526 00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:06.079 it's what it looked like. You can see the rocket in the launch. 527 00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:13.039 Yeah, so tom last, so, so I got these people that 528 00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:15.880 came on is this is about the photo I had These people that just like 529 00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:21.000 started posting things about this photo all over my Facebook. I don't know who 530 00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:22.639 they were, and so I would comment on them and say, yeah, 531 00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:25.400 I don't. I don't think that you're a person. I think you're a 532 00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:30.039 sock puppet, which is a real government term the government, the US government 533 00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:35.639 use sock puppets in Iraq and Afghanistan, digital agents, basically the fake accounts, 534 00:37:35.639 --> 00:37:38.039 fake identities. So I said, I think you're a sock puppet and 535 00:37:38.039 --> 00:37:40.559 they said, oh no, no, they said, we're you know, 536 00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:44.639 we're on your side, like we know that you know, the deep state, 537 00:37:44.679 --> 00:37:46.000 and they start using all these terms and I said, okay, you're 538 00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:50.199 definitely a sock puppet. I'm deleting you. And then I got another one, 539 00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:52.440 and then these pairs starts arguing with me, I don't know who these 540 00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:54.960 people are, and then they and then they're deleted and their pages are gone 541 00:37:55.119 --> 00:38:00.360 and there's no record of them on Facebook. I started thinking, are these 542 00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:02.760 like government agents that are spreading I don't know for sure, I'm just saying. 543 00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:07.440 I started thinking, are these government agents spreading this photograph of this rocket 544 00:38:08.119 --> 00:38:14.480 too? And I started thinking the algorithm is promoting this, So the algorithm 545 00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:17.000 is promoting it. It seemed I don't know if they're government agents or there's 546 00:38:17.079 --> 00:38:22.000 wha couldoos, but they're people on social media coming to me after I did 547 00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:24.400 a I hosted Ground Zero. That week, I did a show in Maoi. 548 00:38:24.440 --> 00:38:27.719 I talked to some people in Hawaii on the show, and I did 549 00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:30.840 my show, and right after that, this is when I got these people 550 00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:32.000 come to my Facebook page and they're like, I don't know if they're government 551 00:38:32.039 --> 00:38:36.559 agents or whackuldoo is what they are, but it was very weird. So 552 00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:43.159 that was I thought that maybe what this is is this disinformation talk about a 553 00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:49.639 conspiracy is being spread with by the algorithm and perhaps by government agencies or intelligence 554 00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:52.360 agencies, something a keen to like miragement, spreading fake stories, you know, 555 00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:57.480 about aliens and they want to steal our resources and eat humans or whatever. 556 00:38:59.320 --> 00:39:01.840 So that's that's that's on the picture side of things. In terms of 557 00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:07.239 the DWUS versus you know whatever the alternative narrative is the climate change. Both 558 00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:13.760 of those are blaming U the event on something that is like kind of uncontrollable 559 00:39:14.039 --> 00:39:16.159 because for people that believe in climate change is like really nothing you can do. 560 00:39:16.280 --> 00:39:19.639 Just the world's falling apart. People that leave in d W use it's 561 00:39:19.639 --> 00:39:22.679 a secret cabal using space based laser weapons. There's nothing we can do to 562 00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:27.480 stop them. So I think I feel like both of those are basically the 563 00:39:27.519 --> 00:39:30.639 same side of the same or two sides of the same coin. There's probably 564 00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:34.719 another way to look at it. And if you were a power company, 565 00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:39.239 like like Pacific Gas and Electric up in California, they admitted that they were 566 00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:43.440 guilty of negligence. They didn't take care of the power lines, they didn't 567 00:39:43.519 --> 00:39:46.400 trim the trees, they didn't take care of the infrastructure, and that's what 568 00:39:46.480 --> 00:39:50.639 started the fire. They admitted it. They acknowledged it. People still don't 569 00:39:50.679 --> 00:39:54.480 know that that in that paradise. Paradise wasn't burned because a DW came down 570 00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:59.440 to kill aliens that we're living there, Like David Wilcock claimed, it burned 571 00:39:59.480 --> 00:40:02.840 because of the negligence of the power company. And they take they take money 572 00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:07.239 to maintain the infrastructure, and the state does too, but they don't do 573 00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:09.039 anything to actually maintain it. So you get a lot of fires. And 574 00:40:09.719 --> 00:40:13.719 same thing happened in Hawaii. There's there's videos. This is the thing that 575 00:40:13.800 --> 00:40:19.159 got me right there's videos of on TikTok and other places that did not go 576 00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:23.719 as viral. So while the viral directed energy weapon videos go viral, this 577 00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:29.039 rocket ship that's they say as a laser, the videos of people in Lahina, 578 00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:35.000 people in Maui outside filming power lines, coming down outside filming power lines 579 00:40:35.079 --> 00:40:39.159 on the ground, sparking and starting fires, those videos didn't get promulgated and 580 00:40:39.199 --> 00:40:44.199 promoted by the algorithm in the same way that the rocket stuff did. So 581 00:40:44.320 --> 00:40:50.440 it's almost as if whether it's government or whether it's maybe corporate or a combination 582 00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:55.800 of both, there are people online intentionally spreading clearly intentionally spreading disinformation about dws 583 00:40:55.800 --> 00:41:00.639 with the shadow of doubt because dws are real weapons systems. You know, 584 00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:05.639 they have the the ones that disable electronics. They have the ones that are 585 00:41:05.679 --> 00:41:08.960 crowd control, crowd dispersal, those are the microwave weapons. They have systems 586 00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:13.679 that I guess theoretically they could start a fire if they wanted to. So 587 00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:16.440 the bottom line and to answer your question, it all seems like it's taking 588 00:41:16.519 --> 00:41:23.079 away from intentional negligence and even mainstream media. There's like the AP and the 589 00:41:23.079 --> 00:41:28.679 Washington Post and others were like it's really weird that Hawaiian Electric Company. They 590 00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:31.679 went in there and right after the fire they started hauling away all those poles 591 00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:36.639 and all the wires and all the evidence that was needed for an investigation to 592 00:41:36.679 --> 00:41:38.880 find out what happened. Really strange they would go in and remove all that. 593 00:41:38.920 --> 00:41:42.679 It's this isn't there's lawsuits now, there's like, this isn't the court 594 00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:45.719 record, court documents. So it's like, we blame it on climate change, 595 00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:49.840 we blame it on DWUS. Those are the two sides of the acceptable 596 00:41:49.920 --> 00:41:52.639 argument to have. But if you step back and say, actually, it's 597 00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:55.400 the negligence of the company, it's the people that own the company. It's 598 00:41:55.760 --> 00:42:00.360 you know, the strangeness about the police chief of Maui, the same guy 599 00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:04.480 from Las Vegas with the Las Vegas shooting, the locking of people basically in 600 00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:07.679 their little town and burning people alive on that road out of Lahinah. All 601 00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:12.320 weird thing is the shutting off of you know, the siren system in the 602 00:42:12.320 --> 00:42:15.840 water. Something weird happened. It's not the fire that's weird. It's the 603 00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:22.760 situation that was cultivated. It's the negligence. Those are the things that are 604 00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:25.599 weird. It's not directed energy weapons, and it's not climate change. It's 605 00:42:25.920 --> 00:42:30.119 it's something very man made, but something that our attention is removed from because 606 00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:36.199 we're focused on these other hysterical theories about what happened. In my opinion, 607 00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:39.840 absolutely, And this is a New York Times article talking about the warning sirens 608 00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:46.400 never sounded on Maui. State official says none of the eighty warning sirens placed 609 00:42:46.440 --> 00:42:52.320 around the island were activated in response to the devastating fire. Spokesman for Hawaii's 610 00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:59.239 Emergency Management Agency confirmed, And that's not the only thing there. Their water 611 00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:05.559 supply got diminished as well. They weren't able to have the water that they 612 00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:09.880 needed to be able to fight the fires. They said that the fires collapse 613 00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:16.559 the water system. But then there's other reports seeing that they intentionally shut off 614 00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:20.679 the water, which I don't know how much truth. They've also had water, 615 00:43:21.079 --> 00:43:23.480 They've had water pump problems there. I found articles in twenty seventeen they 616 00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:29.400 had massive water pump issues all over the island Hawaiian islands, So having water 617 00:43:29.440 --> 00:43:32.440 pump issues is also a very common thing down there as well. And and 618 00:43:32.440 --> 00:43:36.320 and and this is the this is the issue that I come to writer is 619 00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:42.840 that regardless of what started the fires, like there certainly is I don't I 620 00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:45.400 don't know if I want to call it cover up, but there's certainly very 621 00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:49.400 suspicious and odd and strange things that have happened, from the blocking of people 622 00:43:49.400 --> 00:43:52.400 off from leaving, to the sirens, to the water being shut off, 623 00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:59.639 like those are suspicious things, and those things are overlooked because somebody on TikTok 624 00:43:59.679 --> 00:44:02.599 wants to get some clicks and some clout by sharing a picture of a rocket 625 00:44:02.639 --> 00:44:07.599 ship that they've cropped so it looks like a laser beam hitting the island, 626 00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:10.440 even though it wasn't an island and it was from twenty eighteen, And those 627 00:44:10.440 --> 00:44:15.039 are the things that make it more difficult to get to the core of what 628 00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:19.880 happened. And if it was like corporate negligence or even intentional negligence, like 629 00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:24.199 they just allowed those those systems to deteriorate so so fires would eventually start like 630 00:44:24.239 --> 00:44:29.039 they did in Paradise, then those people need to be held accountable. And 631 00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:32.159 they're never going to be held accountable if we're always looking somewhere else for the 632 00:44:32.199 --> 00:44:35.960 answers. And I think that if that is the case, if that is 633 00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:39.360 negligence or if that is intentional or if that is both. Those groups of 634 00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:45.960 people talk about a conspiracy theory. They're going to spread disinformation about anything and 635 00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:51.239 everything else except anything to do with what they're guilty of. They're going to 636 00:44:51.320 --> 00:44:54.880 spread the laser stories and the space based weapons plot. Does that make sense? 637 00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:58.920 That's that's kind of what I think. Absolutely, that's what I feel 638 00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:01.039 is going on, and that's what you see going on in the UFO community 639 00:45:01.079 --> 00:45:06.360 as well. But it wasn't just the cropping of pictures. There's like, 640 00:45:06.480 --> 00:45:13.559 straight up, here's one right here of pictures being literally this is their original 641 00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:16.119 photograph, right, Okay, then I'm going to take this off. And 642 00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:24.360 then here is the photograph of the supposed directed energy weapon, which is the 643 00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:30.000 exact same photo. Oh, I haven't seen this one. Wow. So 644 00:45:30.039 --> 00:45:32.480 they just they hit the roof right there with the laser, but all they 645 00:45:32.559 --> 00:45:38.960 did was cropped the photo and then mirror so they turned the photo around to 646 00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:45.599 the opposite side and then photo shopping a laser coming down from space. Hey, 647 00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:50.039 at least whoever did this one, at least they used an image from 648 00:45:50.079 --> 00:45:53.559 Hawaii, because I've seen plenty that are like meteor strikes in Europe. I've 649 00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:57.320 seen ones that aren't They're not even on the same side of the planet. 650 00:45:58.000 --> 00:46:01.760 They're using stuff from other countries. It's ridiculous. At least they used Hawaii 651 00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:07.599 for that, but I haven't seen that one that's so ridiculously obvious it's embarrassing. 652 00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:10.800 Yeah, and then there's all kinds of there's all kinds of stuff that's 653 00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:19.159 popped up over this whole thing. There's other videos that are resurfacing, and 654 00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:25.360 there's just one video that I've seen of do you remember the video where let 655 00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:29.199 me see if I can find it. I think it was a Prince Harry 656 00:46:29.360 --> 00:46:34.039 or and his wife, Prince Henry Harry or whatever. I can't keep track 657 00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:38.159 of the royal family, but where she's looking like super robotic and she's like 658 00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:42.760 waving her hand or whatever, and she looks like a robot. She her 659 00:46:42.760 --> 00:46:45.800 eyes doesn't move, her face doesn't move, she just kind of like goes 660 00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:50.159 like this. It came out like three or four years ago. I vaguely 661 00:46:50.199 --> 00:46:52.079 remember that, but it's kind of ringing a bell. Well. That was 662 00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:59.199 a video that was done for the season finale of Britain's Got Talent. Also 663 00:46:59.280 --> 00:47:01.159 it was it was for a TV show. It was for a TV show, 664 00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:07.519 and they didn't tell whenever it was released in the United States. It 665 00:47:07.559 --> 00:47:10.519 was circulated around the community back three or four years ago, and they didn't 666 00:47:10.559 --> 00:47:14.280 say that it was for a TV show, and then everyone thought that there 667 00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:17.199 were legit robots, which they were robots, but it was for Britain's Got 668 00:47:17.239 --> 00:47:21.280 Talent. All right, that's how easy home. Let me see if I 669 00:47:21.320 --> 00:47:24.039 can find it here. I just saw it earlier because it's really well, 670 00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:29.159 it's really alarming, and that's the way that things are done in this community. 671 00:47:29.239 --> 00:47:32.880 That's how easy it is to full and trick people people that want to 672 00:47:32.920 --> 00:47:37.000 believe, right, and then that spawned the whole you know, robot thing, 673 00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:40.400 and then that also ties into the whole lady on the plane saying this 674 00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:44.519 that person back there isn't real, you know what I mean. It's like, 675 00:47:44.679 --> 00:47:46.679 yeah, it just keeps playing off of each other. Yeah, you 676 00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:51.599 know. And one thing that really got me is I grew up in Florida. 677 00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:53.840 I'm originally a Florida man, and I went through as a as a 678 00:47:53.920 --> 00:47:57.519 kid and as a young adult, I went through a lot of hurricanes and 679 00:47:57.519 --> 00:47:59.400 it was just normal. You live in Florida, you go. You know, 680 00:47:59.440 --> 00:48:02.599 we experienced hurricanes. And I mean, if anybody's ever looked at a 681 00:48:02.599 --> 00:48:06.440 map, look at the two recent hurricanes that were near Florida, the one 682 00:48:06.440 --> 00:48:08.840 that hit Florida and devastated some of the communities there. I mean, it's 683 00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:13.639 it's big. It's massive. You know. It's like even a category two 684 00:48:13.719 --> 00:48:16.280 or a Category three can be hundreds of miles across. So what's that. 685 00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:22.239 I heard this talking point on a couple of like random videos people sent me, 686 00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:24.159 and then I started having friends call me and they're like, did you 687 00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:29.800 hear that the that there were strange winds in Hawaii? And I said, 688 00:48:29.840 --> 00:48:30.920 strange winds? What do you mean strange winds? And they said, well, 689 00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:35.519 the hurricane was hundreds of miles off shore, and yet they said the 690 00:48:35.639 --> 00:48:39.199 winds were driving the fire. And I said, yeah, but the hurricane 691 00:48:39.360 --> 00:48:43.559 is hundreds of miles. I don't know how big the one was over Hawaii, 692 00:48:43.559 --> 00:48:46.800 but there was hundreds of miles across. They measure the distance from like 693 00:48:47.119 --> 00:48:52.800 let's say the coastline wherever you are, to the eye of the storm. 694 00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:57.320 You can get bands of rain hundreds of miles from the some of the eye 695 00:48:57.320 --> 00:49:02.119 of the storm, but the alternative independent TikTok community talking point rider was how 696 00:49:02.159 --> 00:49:07.039 could a storm one hundred so miles away be causing winds in Hawaii when it 697 00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:10.079 was that far away. It's like, the storm isn't a single dot, 698 00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:15.880 it's gigantic. So it's just like something so basic like that. And I 699 00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:20.000 had, I swear to god, I had like three personal close friends of 700 00:49:20.039 --> 00:49:22.199 mine who normally are pretty rational, and they called me and they're like, 701 00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:25.679 they're like, Ryan, this is really weird. There's a it looks like 702 00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:29.719 the hurricanes three hundred miles off shore, but it's causing winds on the islands. 703 00:49:29.719 --> 00:49:31.320 How is that possible? This is so weird. There's definitely a conspiracy 704 00:49:31.320 --> 00:49:35.559 here. I'm like, no, it's not a conspiracy. There's they're they're 705 00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:38.880 called they're bands of rain and storms. It's like it's it's normal. It's 706 00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:44.559 so ridiculous, it's so obvious. It's so ridiculous. All Right, I 707 00:49:44.599 --> 00:49:53.320 found the video here. This is Yeah? Is this the is this the 708 00:49:54.079 --> 00:49:59.760 this is the TV show for a Britain's Guard talent. Yeah, she doesn't 709 00:49:59.760 --> 00:50:01.920 show like a robot. Well, of course people were spreading this around and 710 00:50:01.960 --> 00:50:06.880 they're still spreading it around today even though it's fake. It's for a TV 711 00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:09.280 show. That's what they want you to think. Rider they want you to 712 00:50:09.320 --> 00:50:15.880 think it's for a TV show. Ridiculous, dude. Oh yeah, it's 713 00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:19.880 it's it's it's everywhere. I mean, that is so ridiculously obviously fake. 714 00:50:21.280 --> 00:50:27.480 Yeah, well that's I'll go back ahead. Yeah, but I mean that's 715 00:50:27.519 --> 00:50:30.280 that's the way that it works, right, Like if the context was given 716 00:50:31.039 --> 00:50:37.920 that them here was for this was for a TV show for Britain's Got Talent, 717 00:50:39.440 --> 00:50:45.159 and then people would realize that it was fake, right, But they 718 00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:51.159 didn't put that in the give any context to what we're seeing here. What 719 00:50:51.159 --> 00:50:52.840 what can people do with that? They can make? They can make gigg 720 00:50:52.840 --> 00:50:55.440 it clicks and clout and cash, that's what I call it, clicks, 721 00:50:55.480 --> 00:51:01.360 clout and cash by sharing this garbage online. That's exactly right. But I 722 00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:07.000 did find something interesting though that I want to share with you, and I 723 00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:09.440 have something else for you too. I wanted to share it. Okay, 724 00:51:09.440 --> 00:51:15.039 cool, because we got we got some more time here. But speaking of 725 00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:23.119 the do the Do stuff, we're onto the does here, which is Operation 726 00:51:23.440 --> 00:51:31.760 do Oh Wikipedia, Wikipedia, It's Wikipedia, dude, Operation do okay so. 727 00:51:31.880 --> 00:51:37.679 Operation DO refers to two separate field trials conducted by the United States in 728 00:51:37.719 --> 00:51:43.159 the nineteen fifties. The tests were designed to study the behavior of aerosol released 729 00:51:43.360 --> 00:51:49.440 biological agents right. The general description is of Operation DO took place in nineteen 730 00:51:49.480 --> 00:51:53.840 fifty one to nineteen fifty two off the south east coast of the United States, 731 00:51:53.840 --> 00:51:59.559 including near Georgia, North and South Carolina. Operation DO consists of two 732 00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:04.519 sets of trials, DO one and DO two. Do DOO do do. 733 00:52:05.360 --> 00:52:09.559 The test involved the release of two hundred and fifty pounds of fluorescent particles from 734 00:52:09.599 --> 00:52:14.599 a minesweeper off of the coast. Operation DO was described by the US Army 735 00:52:14.639 --> 00:52:17.679 as a part of the Dugwaye Special Report one oh six two dated August first, 736 00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:22.400 nineteen fifty two. The purpose of Operation DO was the study the behavior 737 00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:29.480 of aerosol related biological agents right got DO one and DO two Here. DO 738 00:52:29.639 --> 00:52:37.119 two involved the release of fluorescent particles zinc, cademium sulfate, and plant spores 739 00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:40.920 from the aircraft. DO two was described in a nineteen fifty three Army report, 740 00:52:40.960 --> 00:52:45.800 which remained classified at the time of nineteen ninety seven. Report by the 741 00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:55.559 United States National Research Council concerning the US Armies zinc cadium cadimium sulfate dispersion program 742 00:52:55.639 --> 00:53:01.519 in the nineteen fifties. Hey, there's a real operation, dude, there's 743 00:53:01.519 --> 00:53:07.000 a real Operation DO out there, Operation DO, Project Popeye, Project Storm 744 00:53:07.079 --> 00:53:09.719 theory. That's the thing that gets me. It's like, there's a lot 745 00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:15.119 of really credible stuff that can actually be I mean, you can pull records 746 00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:20.000 on Operation Popeye and Storm theory. You can go and No's website and pull 747 00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:22.320 it. They got hurricane modification programs. That's a lot of it's theoretical, 748 00:53:22.360 --> 00:53:28.719 but some things have been tested. Sulfur to block out sunlight, reflective particles 749 00:53:28.719 --> 00:53:30.760 in the sky, Building giant. Back in nineteen eighty nine, some guy 750 00:53:30.800 --> 00:53:36.639 who suggested building some kind of giant basically like a sale to put up in 751 00:53:36.639 --> 00:53:38.480 front of the Earth to block sold to radiation to cool the planet off. 752 00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:42.880 All kinds of proposals, all kinds of projects, all kinds of operations. 753 00:53:42.920 --> 00:53:46.960 Some things actually been tested, like tsunami bombs and snow bombs and all kinds 754 00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:52.880 of stuff. But in order for the whole do subject to have any credibility, 755 00:53:53.239 --> 00:53:58.960 I think you need to find proof, and proof for me, doesn't 756 00:53:59.000 --> 00:54:06.480 include a five six dollars twelve pack of Mountain Dew at Dollar General. You 757 00:54:06.519 --> 00:54:09.480 know that doesn't count for me. You know, well, you don't believe 758 00:54:09.519 --> 00:54:14.519 in the mountain do time clock? Bro? You know? And I got 759 00:54:14.599 --> 00:54:16.920 That's the thing that gets me is I had I saw, I've seen the 760 00:54:17.920 --> 00:54:22.440 Maui Burst. Is that Mauie Burst? Is that the flavor? Yeah, 761 00:54:22.440 --> 00:54:24.440 the Mauie Burst. And someone said, look at what they're just programming us 762 00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:28.440 with this year, and I said, well, not this year. That 763 00:54:28.599 --> 00:54:31.760 is a drink that Dollar General has had for about five years and as of 764 00:54:31.760 --> 00:54:37.199 about three years ago it became their official drink, so it's been around for 765 00:54:37.239 --> 00:54:38.880 a long time. It's not new. And they said, well, that's 766 00:54:38.960 --> 00:54:44.559 the predictive programming. I said, oh, so they Dollar General released a 767 00:54:44.599 --> 00:54:49.440 Mountain Dew flavor to program the public that there would be a fire in Hawaii 768 00:54:49.880 --> 00:54:52.679 six to seven years after its release. Where are you coming up with this 769 00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:55.480 stuff? Right? And then you want to hear a really good conspiracy theory, 770 00:54:55.519 --> 00:54:59.960 writer, is that after that fire, there was a shooting in jackson 771 00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:05.559 Ville at a Dollar General. So you know, the connections are just unbelievable. 772 00:55:06.079 --> 00:55:08.639 It's just it's crazy what kind of things that were uncovering here. But 773 00:55:08.760 --> 00:55:13.119 also we were trying to break into the Dollar General to find out about the 774 00:55:13.159 --> 00:55:17.280 dues, about the dudes do That's that's home hub of the Maui burst right 775 00:55:17.320 --> 00:55:24.199 there in Jacksonville. They got the dues downpad which I made a meme today 776 00:55:24.320 --> 00:55:29.559 which I think is genius that I want to show to everybody here. Uh, 777 00:55:29.559 --> 00:55:35.199 it's the due Monster. Well, you know, the boom Do monster. 778 00:55:36.559 --> 00:55:42.320 That's where all the world's right there. That's a War of the dou 779 00:55:42.440 --> 00:55:47.800 Monster. This is this is a picture from a live video cast of what 780 00:55:47.800 --> 00:55:52.480 happened in Hawaii. I understand, Yeah, this was this was seen. 781 00:55:53.079 --> 00:55:59.639 Yeah, this was seen off of the coast of Hawaii thrashing about. And 782 00:55:59.719 --> 00:56:04.079 sheers, yeah. Well so there's a couple others, a couple others. 783 00:56:04.079 --> 00:56:07.119 That's great. There's a couple others like this too. The I'm I'm from 784 00:56:07.119 --> 00:56:10.719 Florida, like I said, and I shopped at Public's when I lived there 785 00:56:10.760 --> 00:56:15.880 a lot. And I remember this sangria. I sent you a picture of 786 00:56:15.880 --> 00:56:20.400 the sangria or that sangria, So I remember this. I don't drink alcohol, 787 00:56:20.400 --> 00:56:22.920 but I remember at one point another seeing it on a shelf for walking 788 00:56:22.920 --> 00:56:27.440 by it. It was called Class five sangria and it has like a it's 789 00:56:27.440 --> 00:56:30.599 a big Category five hurricane on it. It's an alcoholic dry I think it's 790 00:56:30.639 --> 00:56:36.000 like a mix sangria mix. And now that's being shared online by people that 791 00:56:36.039 --> 00:56:40.960 are saying this is proof that the most recent hurricanes to forum near Florida were 792 00:56:42.039 --> 00:56:46.000 geoengineered or controlled by some kind of weather weapons. And it's like that beverage 793 00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:49.599 has been I did two seconds of research that beverage has been around. It's 794 00:56:49.639 --> 00:56:52.000 like two thousand and two or three or four. I saw it when I 795 00:56:52.039 --> 00:56:57.519 was a kid. So Public's released a sangria. It's not even their sangria, 796 00:56:57.559 --> 00:57:02.079 it's this this company they sell eighteen years ago to program the public to 797 00:57:02.119 --> 00:57:06.719 prepare for a specific hurricane that happens in twenty twenty three, Like, where 798 00:57:06.800 --> 00:57:08.719 where are people getting this stuff? And I saw another one was it was 799 00:57:08.760 --> 00:57:12.679 a kombucha. I don't think I saw sent you this one a kombucha called 800 00:57:12.800 --> 00:57:19.559 controlled Burn Controlled Burn kombucha. So you know there's more proof of directed energy 801 00:57:19.599 --> 00:57:22.639 weapons that kombucha. Well, then you got the Mountain Dew Rito's as well, 802 00:57:23.360 --> 00:57:29.800 yeah, you know points to Arizona. Then that also points to Florida. 803 00:57:30.199 --> 00:57:34.719 You know, before we get any further in here, because I've seen 804 00:57:35.119 --> 00:57:42.559 people posting in the chat the Simpson's predicted the directed energy weapon that there was 805 00:57:42.599 --> 00:57:46.800 a well, which is really strange because it seems like every single event that 806 00:57:46.960 --> 00:57:52.280 happens, the Simpsons are already done it, which I don't know if that's 807 00:57:52.360 --> 00:57:57.760 just I would have to go back and I actually watch these episodes of The 808 00:57:57.800 --> 00:58:02.639 Simpsons to verify if the stuff is really because it seems like it's almost like 809 00:58:02.679 --> 00:58:07.519 a thing. There's like it's just become like a joke now, right that 810 00:58:08.519 --> 00:58:14.440 whatever it happens in our reality, Yeah, the Simpsons also did it. 811 00:58:15.079 --> 00:58:16.800 But how many The thing is, how many years have The Simpsons been on 812 00:58:16.840 --> 00:58:21.440 air? I mean, how many episodes have they done? Like eventually it's 813 00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:23.760 going to overlap with reality. You know, they're going to get something right, 814 00:58:23.840 --> 00:58:27.239 joking about something, and people are gonna, oh, it's prediction of 815 00:58:27.280 --> 00:58:29.559 the future. I mean, but I but I get it. There are 816 00:58:29.599 --> 00:58:32.440 some weird things, yeah, and the Simpsons that I mean, the people 817 00:58:32.480 --> 00:58:37.159 say the one where Bart was holding up the nine to eleven on the magazine, 818 00:58:37.320 --> 00:58:39.360 or the Donald Trump coming down the stairs, or there's the I just 819 00:58:39.400 --> 00:58:44.880 played one on my show recently, where what's his name that has owns the 820 00:58:44.920 --> 00:58:47.119 power company. He wants to block out the sun, which is something the 821 00:58:47.159 --> 00:58:51.679 White House has recently proposed. And you know the one they're talking about the 822 00:58:51.719 --> 00:58:54.320 cat flu and everybody's home. You know, everybody's got the cat flu and 823 00:58:54.320 --> 00:58:58.360 people their homer puts the cat in a bag and seals it so you know, 824 00:58:58.400 --> 00:59:01.119 the cat flu doesn't spread. But like that, those kinds of things 825 00:59:01.119 --> 00:59:05.199 could apply to a lot, Like where was the inspiration originally for that? 826 00:59:05.519 --> 00:59:07.960 I think these people think like some secret agents go to the Simpsons writers with 827 00:59:08.039 --> 00:59:12.679 a with a sealed container and then they opened it in the writer's room, 828 00:59:12.679 --> 00:59:15.199 like this is what the CI wants us to write about this week. I 829 00:59:15.199 --> 00:59:20.159 don't think it goes that down that way. Yeah, I don't know. 830 00:59:20.199 --> 00:59:22.119 What do you think? What do you think? I think it's really I 831 00:59:22.159 --> 00:59:28.719 think it's strange, and I think that it's something that has just been It 832 00:59:28.760 --> 00:59:32.800 seems like a parody of itself almost, you know, like something happens, 833 00:59:32.880 --> 00:59:38.800 it's like someone's showing something from the Simpsons of like when it happens. And 834 00:59:38.840 --> 00:59:45.800 there's a few people in here this commenting about the blue stuff that wasn't burned 835 00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:52.199 in Hawaii. What's your thoughts and your ideas surrounding this? Uh, the 836 00:59:52.280 --> 00:59:57.679 dudes don't burn the blue one context? Okay, So there's a lot of 837 00:59:57.840 --> 01:00:00.360 pictures and videos, and some of them I've seen or not from Hawaii, 838 01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:04.920 so those obviously don't count. But if you, I guess, we take 839 01:00:04.920 --> 01:00:07.199 all the evidence pictures and videos of the things that are blue that don't burn. 840 01:00:08.000 --> 01:00:13.440 I have a couple of issues with that number one again context number two, 841 01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:16.440 some blue umbrellas or some blue roofs, or some blue this or that. 842 01:00:16.679 --> 01:00:22.480 I have to imagine that somewhere, somewhere inside of the homes, somewhere 843 01:00:22.480 --> 01:00:28.440 inside of the businesses, there were other blue things. Why are the Why 844 01:00:28.480 --> 01:00:31.039 are the rebel piles not filled with blue things that didn't burn? That's my 845 01:00:31.440 --> 01:00:36.239 second thing. My third thing is I don't know how fires work. I'm 846 01:00:36.239 --> 01:00:39.199 not a fire expert. However, I grew up around tornadoes and hurricanes, 847 01:00:39.199 --> 01:00:46.159 and I can tell you that I'd never had the displeasure or the the unfortunate 848 01:00:46.199 --> 01:00:49.719 reality of having to deal with a tornado that hit my house. But I've 849 01:00:49.760 --> 01:00:52.199 seen neighborhoods that are decimated by tornadoes. You see videos of this where tornado 850 01:00:52.239 --> 01:00:55.239 comes down, blows two houses away, and then it doesn't even break the 851 01:00:55.280 --> 01:00:59.559 window of the house right next door, and then it goes up and goes 852 01:00:59.599 --> 01:01:02.159 down, and the stories and other two houses. We can't explain how that 853 01:01:02.239 --> 01:01:07.519 happens. I don't know. But it doesn't mean it's directed energy weapons because 854 01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:13.360 we can't explain how fire burns, or we can't explain how tornadoes destroy one 855 01:01:13.400 --> 01:01:17.000 house and not another. And again back to point number two, if blue 856 01:01:17.039 --> 01:01:20.960 things weren't burned, which yes, lasers can. I've seen the thing, 857 01:01:21.039 --> 01:01:22.440 the videos and read some of the research about this. There are some lasers 858 01:01:22.480 --> 01:01:27.320 that can burn through certain colors and not other colors. That's a real thing. 859 01:01:28.039 --> 01:01:30.880 But you need more than just some blue umbrellas if you want to prove 860 01:01:30.960 --> 01:01:35.679 that point. And you also need to answer the question how come other blue 861 01:01:35.719 --> 01:01:39.320 things did burn? And you need to answer the question if you're talking about 862 01:01:39.320 --> 01:01:45.400 celebrity and you have this meme celebrity houses being painted, the roofs painted blue. 863 01:01:45.480 --> 01:01:47.920 You got the Blue Man group going around helping people out. I started 864 01:01:47.960 --> 01:01:52.440 dot Ryan I started a Blue Man group. Met you got a blue shirt 865 01:01:52.480 --> 01:01:54.719 on right now too. It looks like you're in the Blue Man group there. 866 01:01:55.079 --> 01:02:00.119 I am saved the blue the blue stuff. Really it gets me because 867 01:02:00.159 --> 01:02:04.840 I had I had somebody on Facebook who I didn't know who they were. 868 01:02:04.880 --> 01:02:07.280 They were a friend on Facebook, and they were friends with some other people 869 01:02:07.320 --> 01:02:10.239 I know in radio, and they had posted a picture of Oprah Winfrey, 870 01:02:10.320 --> 01:02:14.559 some meme of Oprah Winfrey. And I said, you know, Oprah's house 871 01:02:14.960 --> 01:02:19.599 wasn't near the fire, and they said, shut up, you're stupid, 872 01:02:20.039 --> 01:02:22.280 and they didn't even spell your right right. I sent that to you, 873 01:02:22.800 --> 01:02:25.920 and I said, okay, well that's an emotional outburst. Okay, objectively 874 01:02:25.960 --> 01:02:30.639 speaking, her house wasn't. It was like forty five minutes in southeast of 875 01:02:30.719 --> 01:02:35.119 Lahinah. Oh but Jeff Bezos and Obama's house they got spared. No, 876 01:02:35.280 --> 01:02:37.559 they didn't get spared because Obama's house is on Oahu. It's on on Maui, 877 01:02:37.639 --> 01:02:40.480 and Jeff Bezo's house is so far south on Maui that it might as 878 01:02:40.519 --> 01:02:44.960 well be on the next island. It's closer to that next island than it 879 01:02:45.000 --> 01:02:50.320 is to Lahinah. So the celebrities houses didn't get spared, and that that's 880 01:02:50.320 --> 01:02:54.800 an objective fact that you can prove, and people don't care. Same thing 881 01:02:54.800 --> 01:02:59.239 with the Falcon X rocket launch. It's an objective fact. That's a photograph. 882 01:02:59.320 --> 01:03:01.880 That's a photograph. It's been tampered with, edited filters put on it, 883 01:03:02.000 --> 01:03:07.360 cropped. People don't care because the algorithm tells him to believe something else. 884 01:03:07.360 --> 01:03:10.480 So in terms of the blue those were my perspectives. In terms of 885 01:03:10.519 --> 01:03:14.519 the celebrity houses, they're nowhere near the fire. They have no reason to 886 01:03:14.519 --> 01:03:17.480 paint the roofs blue because the fires didn't burn in the places where Obama had 887 01:03:17.559 --> 01:03:20.880 his outlet. Mean, hey, Alex Jones has a house in Hawaii. 888 01:03:21.280 --> 01:03:23.480 Was he also part of the plan to burn the state? Like, it 889 01:03:23.519 --> 01:03:27.599 doesn't make any sense. Mark Zuckerberg has a house. Was his house spared? 890 01:03:27.760 --> 01:03:30.079 They're not on the same island, I don't think, so it just 891 01:03:30.119 --> 01:03:34.599 doesn't make any sense to me. Fireflies has got a great idea. They 892 01:03:34.639 --> 01:03:39.239 say, let's all don't mean blue T shirts. That is funny. I 893 01:03:39.239 --> 01:03:45.119 like that. It's a great idea of fireflies. Might take that from him, 894 01:03:45.199 --> 01:03:50.480 but yeah, yeah, there's it's weird, even if it was a 895 01:03:51.920 --> 01:03:55.280 let's just play Devil's advocate here. Sure, sure, sure, let's just 896 01:03:55.360 --> 01:04:03.119 say that it was a do that started the fires, right, that's just 897 01:04:03.199 --> 01:04:09.360 what started it. But does it that the fires would burn everything else? 898 01:04:10.639 --> 01:04:15.559 How would something blue protect you from other things being on fire? Exactly? 899 01:04:15.840 --> 01:04:23.000 Yes, that's a great point. Even if the dude don't burn blue things, 900 01:04:24.400 --> 01:04:28.679 how come the thing beside of it that caught on fire didn't also burn 901 01:04:28.760 --> 01:04:32.239 everything else? Right? Fire spreads, so a fire would go everywhere. 902 01:04:32.280 --> 01:04:36.920 So the whole blue thing doesn't make any sense at all. I think I 903 01:04:38.039 --> 01:04:41.480 mentioned that on the one show I did. I've done two of these Hawaii 904 01:04:41.559 --> 01:04:44.519 Maui shows. I think I mentioned on the show I did last Monday. 905 01:04:44.599 --> 01:04:46.480 Yeah, like, if a laser or whatever they call it started the fire, 906 01:04:46.599 --> 01:04:50.760 which that technology does exist, But if that started the fire, how 907 01:04:50.800 --> 01:04:55.559 come yes, O, other things didn't burn it. Just it's like it's 908 01:04:55.599 --> 01:05:01.119 like mashing together multiple conspiracy theories or multiple conspiracy and ideas and technologies into one 909 01:05:01.440 --> 01:05:05.480 and then thinking that you figured it out and then setting back and feeling morally 910 01:05:05.519 --> 01:05:10.559 superior because you don't believe in climate change or you don't believe which I don't 911 01:05:10.599 --> 01:05:15.079 either. Necessarily. But I'm saying that you create your own narrative, your 912 01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:19.000 own mythology, and then that becomes the belief system, and then you exist 913 01:05:19.039 --> 01:05:23.639 within this tiny little echo chamber you've created, and you find other people who 914 01:05:23.679 --> 01:05:27.760 also resonate within the echo chamber, and then you have your community. And 915 01:05:27.800 --> 01:05:32.639 I think it's a gd delusional. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. 916 01:05:32.719 --> 01:05:40.400 Even if the lasers can't penetrate blue objects, that can penetrate everything else around 917 01:05:40.480 --> 01:05:44.159 it, and then everything else would burn. Nobody had like a nice blue 918 01:05:44.239 --> 01:05:49.039 dress or some blue jeans, or a blue pen or anything in their house 919 01:05:49.079 --> 01:05:53.079 and all those blue things burn. Why why aren't there like piles of blue 920 01:05:53.159 --> 01:05:56.719 jeans in the rubble that didn't burn. I'm being facetious, but I'm also 921 01:05:56.760 --> 01:05:59.920 being serious, Like why did some blue things burn and not other blue things? 922 01:06:00.119 --> 01:06:02.159 You know, I don't think blue things are fire resistant, right, 923 01:06:03.280 --> 01:06:05.199 I don't think so. I mean I might be wrong about that. I 924 01:06:05.280 --> 01:06:12.039 have to check that you did Wilcock channel, But archangel Michael channel me and 925 01:06:12.039 --> 01:06:15.920 told me that blue things don't burn. Yeah, blue things don't burn, 926 01:06:15.440 --> 01:06:19.920 right after he told me to bathe in m P. That's true story. 927 01:06:20.039 --> 01:06:24.840 That's true story. He did tell him that Blue Ray Bluetooth. Yeah that's 928 01:06:24.880 --> 01:06:30.119 interesting. Yeah, yeah, Blue Ray Bluetooth. Apparently bluetooth headsets didn't burn 929 01:06:30.159 --> 01:06:33.599 either. They found those in the rubble. That There's another thing too, 930 01:06:33.639 --> 01:06:35.920 it's like they there. I don't know how true this is, but there 931 01:06:36.320 --> 01:06:41.920 are definitely some people that lived down there that tried to get back into, 932 01:06:42.360 --> 01:06:45.440 you know, the rubble of their home and they've been arrested. I'm sure 933 01:06:45.480 --> 01:06:50.800 there's plenty of reasons, but they basically initially they supposedly walled off a lot 934 01:06:50.840 --> 01:06:54.599 of la highness so people couldn't get in. This is exactly what happened on 935 01:06:54.679 --> 01:06:57.320 nine to eleven. They walled off ground zero and they got rid of the 936 01:06:57.360 --> 01:07:00.000 material really fast. That's what they did in the lahine A walded off and 937 01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:04.119 they're just getting rid of the material really fast. Like that's suspicious. If 938 01:07:04.280 --> 01:07:06.960 we're going to argue about something, we should be arguing about the like with 939 01:07:08.039 --> 01:07:11.760 the sirens or the police chief and the blocking of the road. Those things 940 01:07:11.880 --> 01:07:16.559 should take precedent over what started the fire. And here we go. Here's 941 01:07:16.639 --> 01:07:25.679 a pawno. He says he he's on Maui and he's seen how the things 942 01:07:25.719 --> 01:07:29.960 played out and don't and I even know some of the main characters that made 943 01:07:29.960 --> 01:07:36.440 the wrong choice and more for their master's search. Hey, tell us more 944 01:07:36.440 --> 01:07:41.360 about that. I'm sorry if I called you a man, a man or 945 01:07:41.599 --> 01:07:44.280 he or I don't know. I'm not sure if you're a woman or a 946 01:07:44.320 --> 01:07:46.760 man. But tell us more about what's going on there and I'll bring up 947 01:07:46.800 --> 01:07:50.599 the comments. So one other thing, real quick, I wanted to I 948 01:07:50.599 --> 01:07:55.800 thought you'd find this funny. I pointed out to people too just and trying 949 01:07:55.840 --> 01:08:00.199 to be objective about fires. There are thirty three thousand and seven hundred fires 950 01:08:00.199 --> 01:08:04.639 cataloged in the United States as of the weekend of the fire in Maui. 951 01:08:04.920 --> 01:08:09.400 Thirty three thousand seven are just in the United States. That's at a ten 952 01:08:09.480 --> 01:08:14.760 year low, and around the world we also have tens of thousands of fires. 953 01:08:15.159 --> 01:08:17.279 These aren't normal. These aren't Some of them are not natural, but 954 01:08:17.359 --> 01:08:21.439 a lot of them are natural. Fires are good for forests. A lot 955 01:08:21.479 --> 01:08:26.960 of the problem is we build homes in places where hurricanes hit and where fires 956 01:08:27.000 --> 01:08:30.039 burned, so then our homes get destroyed and we blame it on some kind 957 01:08:30.079 --> 01:08:33.399 of climate change or energy weapons, when it's really just we're not taking care 958 01:08:33.439 --> 01:08:35.840 of the forest, or we don't recognize that. Hey, we built our 959 01:08:35.880 --> 01:08:39.680 house in the ocean, so there's water in the living room because we live 960 01:08:39.720 --> 01:08:43.039 in the ocean. You know, people that live on these little artificial fingers 961 01:08:43.079 --> 01:08:45.720 of Saint Pete Beach where I'm from. Oh my god, why did it 962 01:08:45.760 --> 01:08:48.039 flood? Because you live below sea level in the ocean, That's why it 963 01:08:48.079 --> 01:08:53.560 flooded. It's it's not because of energy weapons. So I looked up all 964 01:08:53.600 --> 01:08:58.079 those fires and I thought, okay, so I want this is important information 965 01:08:58.159 --> 01:09:00.039 for context. And I've had will tell me, Well, Ryan, you 966 01:09:00.039 --> 01:09:05.600 know there's thirty f seven hundred fires. Those were all tests for the directed 967 01:09:05.680 --> 01:09:11.039 energy weapons. And I'm at the point now where you are. I just 968 01:09:11.159 --> 01:09:15.359 I don't know how to respond to that. All wildfires are just laser weapons 969 01:09:15.439 --> 01:09:19.920 tests, now, all of them. You know, nature doesn't nature anymore, 970 01:09:20.119 --> 01:09:25.600 Ryan, No, she doesn't. Nature just doesn't do nature. No, 971 01:09:25.760 --> 01:09:31.840 it's always some other thing going on. It's always extraterrestrials, aliens, 972 01:09:31.960 --> 01:09:35.800 dues, it's the government, it's a deep state. That's I think that 973 01:09:35.800 --> 01:09:42.560 that's the most annoying thing about the community at the moment. And again, 974 01:09:42.600 --> 01:09:45.800 it's not my audience that I'm saying this too, seeing that the community as 975 01:09:45.800 --> 01:09:55.239 a whole is that things just don't happen anymore. There's always some kind of 976 01:09:55.600 --> 01:10:00.920 someone's always has an explanation for anything bad that ha, well what about what 977 01:10:01.000 --> 01:10:03.840 about those? Okay, so we should probably address two very quickly, the 978 01:10:03.880 --> 01:10:09.479 fifteen minute city smart city things that people kept bringing up, Right, So 979 01:10:10.079 --> 01:10:14.600 I did like literally eight seconds of research. Literally, it was like eight 980 01:10:14.640 --> 01:10:17.800 seconds. I just typed in Mauie smart city, you know, conference, 981 01:10:18.319 --> 01:10:21.439 it pops up and I see Mauie, and then I also see New York 982 01:10:21.479 --> 01:10:25.399 and a bunch of other places. And I posted this on my Facebook page. 983 01:10:25.760 --> 01:10:31.199 New York is holding the same Digital Government summit that Mauie was supposed to 984 01:10:31.239 --> 01:10:34.199 hold. I don't know if they're still going to hold it. And I 985 01:10:34.279 --> 01:10:39.199 asked people, does that mean New York is about to be dude, because 986 01:10:39.199 --> 01:10:44.079 they're holding a digital government summit. I mean places like Glass Coast, Scotland 987 01:10:44.680 --> 01:10:47.840 already is it's already a smart city. They didn't burn it down. There 988 01:10:47.920 --> 01:10:51.600 are plenty of places all over the world that have already turned into smart cities. 989 01:10:51.760 --> 01:10:55.880 They didn't burn them down. There are plenty of places where people are 990 01:10:55.960 --> 01:11:00.359 voting. Here in Tucson, Arizona, people just voted down. I think 991 01:11:00.479 --> 01:11:02.439 is a positive thing. But they voted down to turn this into a fifteen 992 01:11:02.439 --> 01:11:05.840 minute city. Does that mean we're going to be hit with a directed energy 993 01:11:05.840 --> 01:11:09.479 weapon? I had someone tell me that about Phoenix, Arizona, and I 994 01:11:09.520 --> 01:11:11.560 said, what proof do you have of that? They said, well, 995 01:11:11.560 --> 01:11:15.000 they're installing tollbooths on the road. And I said, what does it tollbooth 996 01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:16.720 have to do with anything? And they said, because they want to control 997 01:11:16.760 --> 01:11:20.800 where you're driving. I said, but but it's not controlling where you're driving. 998 01:11:20.800 --> 01:11:24.439 They're just making you pay to drive on other roads they've built. What 999 01:11:24.439 --> 01:11:27.439 does it have to do with directed energy weapons? And then apparently I'm a 1000 01:11:27.439 --> 01:11:30.760 fed and I'm covering the truth up. It's just like there are plenty of 1001 01:11:30.800 --> 01:11:35.600 places that are Portland, smart City, Seattle, like there's all kinds of 1002 01:11:35.640 --> 01:11:40.800 these things happening all over the world. Just because there's one thing happening in 1003 01:11:40.840 --> 01:11:45.840 Maui when the fires happened, doesn't mean that it is not a correlation. 1004 01:11:45.199 --> 01:11:48.880 That's a fallacy, that is wrong, and we need to stop believing that 1005 01:11:48.920 --> 01:11:53.800 stuff because it takes away again from the real substance of all of the other 1006 01:11:53.880 --> 01:11:59.239 inconsistencies that we've thus far discussed. Tonight, Yeah, no, well truth 1007 01:11:59.319 --> 01:12:03.119 brings up something really interesting too, is the ritual aspect around all of this 1008 01:12:03.279 --> 01:12:08.119 stuff. You know, that's another thing that people claim with any of these 1009 01:12:08.159 --> 01:12:13.880 disasters or a celebrity death like you're seeing, is a ritual, you know, 1010 01:12:13.960 --> 01:12:16.680 it's it's a ritual to the amand Ra, the sun god. Right, 1011 01:12:17.119 --> 01:12:19.920 if it burns and they die in a burning death, it's a ritual 1012 01:12:19.960 --> 01:12:25.960 to the aman raw you know, which. I think there are some strange 1013 01:12:26.079 --> 01:12:31.319 dust that seem really symbolic, but all of them, I don't know. 1014 01:12:31.359 --> 01:12:34.840 I think people just regularly die, right, Yeah, yeah, I agree. 1015 01:12:35.159 --> 01:12:38.960 I Mean the funniest thing you bring that up, or the listener there 1016 01:12:39.000 --> 01:12:42.479 brings that up, is because tonight on The Secret Teachings, the show goes 1017 01:12:42.479 --> 01:12:45.760 on at ten pm Pacific at ground zero Dot Radio, I'm doing a show 1018 01:12:45.960 --> 01:12:53.039 called Burned Out Man, Burn the Man, Save the Witch, and it's 1019 01:12:53.079 --> 01:12:56.319 a it's it's I don't My point on the show is I don't have the 1020 01:12:56.359 --> 01:12:59.560 answers. I don't know, but it's kind of interesting, like Jimmy Buffett 1021 01:12:59.600 --> 01:13:02.520 died Fry. Saturday, the day of Saturn, you have this inundation of 1022 01:13:02.560 --> 01:13:05.640 Burning Man. Sunday, the day of the Sun, you have this Electric 1023 01:13:05.720 --> 01:13:11.720 Zoo festival that turns into chaos in New York City. And then Monday you 1024 01:13:11.760 --> 01:13:15.119 have the death of the smash Mouth singer. So you have these two festivals 1025 01:13:15.199 --> 01:13:18.279 that erupt into chaos, same which by these two celebrity deaths. And then 1026 01:13:18.279 --> 01:13:23.039 you also had Travis Scott on Friday, who was, you know, the 1027 01:13:23.039 --> 01:13:28.520 guy that was on the stage at the last big festival disastered Astro World. 1028 01:13:28.880 --> 01:13:31.039 He just announced that this weekend, the same time as this other stuff was 1029 01:13:31.079 --> 01:13:33.279 going on, that he's going to come back with He's got a new tour 1030 01:13:33.760 --> 01:13:38.039 called Utopia and it's going to open up the New world. That's that's how 1031 01:13:38.079 --> 01:13:41.800 they're promoting it. So like all those things are interesting, but like I 1032 01:13:41.840 --> 01:13:45.560 propose to my audience, a lot of it is just the algorithmic cycle of 1033 01:13:45.560 --> 01:13:48.840 the news. One celebrity dies, another celebrity dies. Suddenly, it's a 1034 01:13:48.840 --> 01:13:53.760 pattern. Suddenly, that's where the algorithm goes. That's where the news takes 1035 01:13:53.760 --> 01:13:58.720 you. People don't give a damn about somebody that gets trampled at a festival 1036 01:13:58.800 --> 01:14:01.399 or gets you know, they get mudded in at a festival. No one 1037 01:14:01.479 --> 01:14:05.319 who cares because the news told you to care. So because people are told 1038 01:14:05.359 --> 01:14:09.920 to care about Burning Man, suddenly this other festival makes the news, and 1039 01:14:09.920 --> 01:14:13.079 then those things go away, and we'll have another news cycle with other things 1040 01:14:13.119 --> 01:14:15.680 we're told to care about. There's different there's different angles and ways to look 1041 01:14:15.720 --> 01:14:19.520 at this. There is something weird about last weekend, but also a lot 1042 01:14:19.520 --> 01:14:24.000 of it is just the algorithmics. I call it the algorithmic cycle of the 1043 01:14:24.079 --> 01:14:29.079 news. Plus I want to add one other thing very quickly. The middle 1044 01:14:29.079 --> 01:14:32.920 of Burning Man is also it's August thirty first, and that's actually a ritual, 1045 01:14:34.279 --> 01:14:39.600 an actual holiday or holy day to the goddess Hecate we were talking about 1046 01:14:39.640 --> 01:14:45.039 earlier, and it's the inversion of the IDEs of August March thirteen March August 1047 01:14:45.119 --> 01:14:49.359 thirteenth, which is a festival for the goddess Diana. And during that festival 1048 01:14:49.359 --> 01:14:54.039 it's called the Festival of Torches, and they have it on a lake and 1049 01:14:54.359 --> 01:14:59.279 the rock or the symbol interestingly enough of Diana and Hecate is the black rock. 1050 01:14:59.399 --> 01:15:02.680 So where did they have burning Man Black Rock Desert they had it. 1051 01:15:02.680 --> 01:15:06.039 It's a dried up lake bed and it's also burning Man, so like Festival 1052 01:15:06.079 --> 01:15:11.680 of Torches. So like there's those interesting correlations to these ancient Roman festivals or 1053 01:15:11.720 --> 01:15:15.600 ancient this or that festivals and mythologies, and that's what I do for my 1054 01:15:15.640 --> 01:15:18.119 show. I do that a lot. But I also tell people it doesn't 1055 01:15:18.159 --> 01:15:23.840 necessarily mean anything. A lot of times. It's just how things unfold. 1056 01:15:24.079 --> 01:15:29.319 It's not a conspiracy, but it is interesting. Yeah, Jesse James brought 1057 01:15:29.399 --> 01:15:35.840 up apparently Dumatria blue equals forties sorin equals forty, pain equals forty. Jermatria 1058 01:15:35.880 --> 01:15:41.079 is really interesting. There's really you can kind of make anything that you want 1059 01:15:41.119 --> 01:15:45.960 to make out of Germania. And there's different There's Hebrew Gometria, there's Greek 1060 01:15:46.039 --> 01:15:53.000 Gamatria, there's English Gamatria. Marty Leads. I don't know if you ever 1061 01:15:53.039 --> 01:15:57.880 talked to Marty Leads, but he has his own the Septonary Cipher. It's 1062 01:15:57.960 --> 01:16:00.399 all kinds of different. Like in one form of Gamatria, you know, 1063 01:16:00.439 --> 01:16:04.000 the name Jesus might mean one thing. In another form it means something different, 1064 01:16:04.039 --> 01:16:08.880 like the numerical value. So you can Yeah, derive whatever you want. 1065 01:16:09.319 --> 01:16:13.279 I think it's interesting and important. You can derive whatever you want from 1066 01:16:13.279 --> 01:16:15.359 it. Because if the Greek isn't working out, you can just go to 1067 01:16:15.399 --> 01:16:17.439 the Hebrew. If that ain't working out, just go to the English. 1068 01:16:17.760 --> 01:16:23.359 Just until you can get that six six six, Yeah, the six are 1069 01:16:23.399 --> 01:16:29.079 the eleven. Yeah. Anyone dying before their time in Hollywood is suspicious to 1070 01:16:29.119 --> 01:16:30.840 me. They have the best medicine, holiestake or shaman, et cetera. 1071 01:16:30.920 --> 01:16:36.159 Look at Magic Johnson or Stephen Hawkins when they went to them. Want them 1072 01:16:36.199 --> 01:16:41.000 to live, they do well. A lot of these people die from overdoses, 1073 01:16:42.079 --> 01:16:46.800 from drug overdoses because they're overly medicated. It's what Prince died of. 1074 01:16:46.840 --> 01:16:53.159 It's what Michael Jackson died of. That's what a lot of celebrities inevitably die 1075 01:16:53.199 --> 01:16:59.680 of, or drug overdoses, I mean ain't overprescribed. That's another one of 1076 01:16:59.680 --> 01:17:03.039 those things. Things like how many people living outside of the County of Los 1077 01:17:03.039 --> 01:17:08.920 Angeles also died this weekend? Just some you know, some old lady or 1078 01:17:09.039 --> 01:17:12.880 some old guy, or you know, maybe some some young kid overdosed on 1079 01:17:12.960 --> 01:17:17.079 pills. Like their deaths don't matter, but because they happen within La County, 1080 01:17:17.600 --> 01:17:20.920 you know, symbolically, because Jimmy Buffett dies or because someone else did, 1081 01:17:20.920 --> 01:17:24.800 then suddenly it's a conspiracy. It's like, how many other people died 1082 01:17:24.840 --> 01:17:29.640 today? Seventeen hundred people died today from preventable heart disease according to the CDC. 1083 01:17:30.479 --> 01:17:33.079 Is that all ritual? No, But if Jimmyuffett dies, it's a 1084 01:17:33.159 --> 01:17:39.920 ritual. That's the weird thing to me. Writer, It is people. 1085 01:17:40.079 --> 01:17:44.880 They're like in the Pick and Choose. Jesse James says jamatria is the only 1086 01:17:44.880 --> 01:17:49.039 way to figure out the real truth of words in mathematics. Behind I mean, 1087 01:17:49.079 --> 01:17:54.239 I agree, uh, jamatria is very interesting. But I think the 1088 01:17:54.279 --> 01:17:59.439 problem with jamatria is nobody knows what it means. And you can come up 1089 01:17:59.479 --> 01:18:03.640 with all the correlating numbers and uh and stuff, but no one can seem 1090 01:18:03.680 --> 01:18:09.359 to really know what any of that means. And it can you know, 1091 01:18:09.479 --> 01:18:12.520 because there's different kinds. And I agree too, I think it's important, 1092 01:18:12.520 --> 01:18:16.199 it's significant, it has value, but to what extent because and I actually 1093 01:18:16.199 --> 01:18:18.319 wrote a whole book. I have a whole book called a cult Arcana. 1094 01:18:18.399 --> 01:18:23.319 It's about I don't know that thick it's an enormous, six hundred plus page 1095 01:18:23.319 --> 01:18:27.199 book, and I talk about cometary in the book. And it's like, 1096 01:18:27.239 --> 01:18:29.720 if you're talking about magic, if you talk about rituals, if you're talking 1097 01:18:29.760 --> 01:18:32.399 about you know, numerology, you've talk about symbolism, mythology, things like 1098 01:18:32.439 --> 01:18:36.560 that. A lot of it also boils down to the practitioner, Like if 1099 01:18:36.680 --> 01:18:40.640 I wanted to create some kind of personally, if I wanted to create some 1100 01:18:40.720 --> 01:18:43.800 kind of sigil, or if I like, look at my T shirt here, 1101 01:18:43.840 --> 01:18:45.720 I have a tree of life with a ladder with seven rungs, and 1102 01:18:45.760 --> 01:18:48.880 I have a serpent on the tree. It says tst the Secret Teachings, 1103 01:18:48.920 --> 01:18:53.560 and it's all kinds of symbols in the tree. Like people could look at 1104 01:18:53.560 --> 01:18:57.079 this shirt and they could look at the symbols and then try to, you 1105 01:18:57.119 --> 01:19:00.399 know, Internet sleuth what they think I believe because of the symbols on my 1106 01:19:00.479 --> 01:19:05.880 shirt. You're a Freemason ran Yeah, actually a Freemason Illuminati. You know, 1107 01:19:05.960 --> 01:19:12.800 Dorito eating mountain dew drinker. So but to me this, my intention 1108 01:19:12.960 --> 01:19:17.439 is to just present you know, interesting things or images to really get people 1109 01:19:17.479 --> 01:19:24.039 thinking. So if your intention with Gamatria was to have have a word equal, 1110 01:19:24.279 --> 01:19:28.119 you know, five hundred for whatever reason, in another form of gametrias, 1111 01:19:28.119 --> 01:19:30.119 someone could find it to mean six six six, and then suddenly your 1112 01:19:30.159 --> 01:19:35.279 intention to have it mean one thing is overshadowed because some Internet sleuth thinks it 1113 01:19:35.319 --> 01:19:40.399 means something else, Like intention matters, and you know that is an important 1114 01:19:40.439 --> 01:19:44.479 piece of context when we're talking about more occult themed things, if if that 1115 01:19:44.520 --> 01:19:53.279 makes sense, Yes, sir, I've been looking into Lena Brobloski and Igar 1116 01:19:53.359 --> 01:19:58.439 Casey a lot on my on my show for studying these UFO calls, because 1117 01:19:58.439 --> 01:20:03.039 it seems like a lot of these cults derive from agar Casey's work, some 1118 01:20:03.119 --> 01:20:09.680 of the later cults, and uh directly from Elena Bravlowsky as well. Have 1119 01:20:09.760 --> 01:20:14.199 you looked into uh, Igar Casey and Elena Bravloski. I mean, I'm 1120 01:20:14.239 --> 01:20:17.720 sure you have, because of your show and the books that you've written. 1121 01:20:18.000 --> 01:20:21.119 What do you think of We'll start with Agar Casey. We've got a few 1122 01:20:21.119 --> 01:20:26.000 more minutes here. What do you think of agar Casey personally? My opinion 1123 01:20:26.119 --> 01:20:30.600 is I've not read a lot of Edgar Casey. I'm open to what he 1124 01:20:30.640 --> 01:20:34.960 wrote and what he talked about. I think that what we know and collectively, 1125 01:20:35.159 --> 01:20:39.000 you know, in pop culture, think of Edgar Casey is more so 1126 01:20:39.079 --> 01:20:44.159 what people have created for him as an image or so than what he actually 1127 01:20:44.159 --> 01:20:46.079 wrote or said. Same thing with Nicola Tesla. People are like, oh, 1128 01:20:46.199 --> 01:20:48.720 Nicola Tesla was a talking aliens. That's what his friends said. It's 1129 01:20:48.760 --> 01:20:51.800 like, no, if you read what he actually wrote. His friend at 1130 01:20:51.800 --> 01:20:56.960 worked in newspaper said it was like like he was talking to aliens because he 1131 01:20:57.000 --> 01:21:00.039 was so advanced in terms of what he was developing in the Rising about like 1132 01:21:00.359 --> 01:21:05.159 is different than was big difference as the same thing with Edgar Casey. That's 1133 01:21:05.199 --> 01:21:12.560 what I would logically conclude, having not read a lot of Edgar Casey. 1134 01:21:12.920 --> 01:21:18.359 In terms of Lavotsky, I have her books. They're very advanced for occult 1135 01:21:18.439 --> 01:21:21.600 students. I wouldn't recommend just grabbing those if you want to start reading about 1136 01:21:21.600 --> 01:21:30.720 the occult or whatever. There's absolutely very credible, interesting, powerful information in 1137 01:21:30.760 --> 01:21:33.520 them. But like a lot of occult studies, whether you're reading Lee Levi 1138 01:21:33.880 --> 01:21:39.399 or Levi Elephus Levi, Levi Levy, if you're reading The Magus by Francis 1139 01:21:39.439 --> 01:21:44.039 Barrett, if you don't understand the subtleties or the symbolism of or the you 1140 01:21:44.039 --> 01:21:46.399 know, the metaphors that a lot of these authors write in. You'll take 1141 01:21:46.439 --> 01:21:49.359 things to be literal that aren't literal. And the best example of this is 1142 01:21:49.680 --> 01:21:56.920 there's a lot of books where authors, older authors give these examples of how 1143 01:21:56.920 --> 01:22:00.359 to perform certain rituals, and they'll say things like you have to get a 1144 01:22:00.439 --> 01:22:03.760 virgin kid, and you have to sacrifice the virgin kid, and people, 1145 01:22:03.760 --> 01:22:06.079 oh my god, it's human sacrifice. Look, oh my god. Qann's 1146 01:22:06.119 --> 01:22:12.560 in these these grimois. It's like, no kid, kid meant baby goat. 1147 01:22:12.880 --> 01:22:15.439 So you would not saying that's good. I'm not saying I'm going to 1148 01:22:15.479 --> 01:22:17.680 sacrifice a baby goat, but I'm saying that kid, a virgin kid means 1149 01:22:17.840 --> 01:22:24.479 an innocent, pure, baby, youthful goat. It doesn't mean a child 1150 01:22:24.479 --> 01:22:28.319 who's been kidnapped by the Illuminati or something. And it's the same thing with 1151 01:22:28.399 --> 01:22:33.159 like when they say you have to like if you read Revelation. Here's another 1152 01:22:33.199 --> 01:22:36.520 great examp of read Revelation. The red dragon gives the beast his power. 1153 01:22:38.000 --> 01:22:42.359 Okay, well, speaking in terms of psychology and the body and human development 1154 01:22:42.399 --> 01:22:45.720 and introspection, the red dragon is your ego, the beast is the animal 1155 01:22:45.800 --> 01:22:49.520 self, and in order to achieve some form of enlightenment or you know, 1156 01:22:49.560 --> 01:22:55.600 in order to become more consciously aware and connects to source, you have to 1157 01:22:55.640 --> 01:22:59.880 slay the red dragon and collect the treasure of wisdom the dragon always guards, 1158 01:23:00.159 --> 01:23:01.960 and then that helps you to overcome the animal self, which is like the 1159 01:23:02.039 --> 01:23:06.039 Lion and the Wizard of Oz by Frank Baum. And then you know, 1160 01:23:06.199 --> 01:23:11.319 you begin to understand things on another level because you've abandoned the ego and you've 1161 01:23:11.319 --> 01:23:16.239 collected the gold of wisdom or the wisdom of gold, or the alchemical stone 1162 01:23:16.279 --> 01:23:20.840 of the of the alchemists. So those are things that like you have to 1163 01:23:20.880 --> 01:23:26.520 understand when you read the Bolvotsky, She's not writing in a way that's like 1164 01:23:26.920 --> 01:23:31.319 intending to be easy to understand. So there's a tremendous amount of symbolism and 1165 01:23:31.399 --> 01:23:35.920 metaphor. And in order to even kind of process that, especially for her 1166 01:23:35.960 --> 01:23:40.800 work, to answer your question, you really have to be well versed on 1167 01:23:40.840 --> 01:23:45.439 a lot of other much more basic occult themes. So, I mean, 1168 01:23:45.439 --> 01:23:47.800 if you're interested in that kind of thing, I think there's definitely value there. 1169 01:23:48.399 --> 01:23:51.479 You probably want to read The Secret Teachings of all Ages by Manly Hall, 1170 01:23:53.079 --> 01:23:56.960 or read his how to Understand Your Bible book even if you're not a 1171 01:23:57.039 --> 01:24:00.039 Christian, or read you know, the History of mad by Elphas LEVI a 1172 01:24:00.039 --> 01:24:02.000 lot of stuff, and there's kind of garbage, but a lot of stuff 1173 01:24:02.000 --> 01:24:05.520 and there's good. Uh. You know, there's all sorts of easier books 1174 01:24:06.000 --> 01:24:09.520 if you want to dive into that. But to answer your question, in 1175 01:24:09.600 --> 01:24:13.840 terms of Blovotsky, it's a lot of metaphor and a lot of symbolism more 1176 01:24:13.840 --> 01:24:16.640 so than it is literality. Do you think that she was a legit? 1177 01:24:16.680 --> 01:24:20.800 Though I would counter and ask you, but what do you mean by legit? 1178 01:24:21.960 --> 01:24:28.760 Like the things that she experienced, the the channeling that she would claim 1179 01:24:28.880 --> 01:24:32.239 to do, do you think that was legit. I'm always skeptical of channeling. 1180 01:24:32.680 --> 01:24:35.960 I'm always skept I don't really as a rule of thumb, I just 1181 01:24:35.960 --> 01:24:40.359 don't trust channelers. I don't care if it's Blovotsky, I don't care if 1182 01:24:40.399 --> 01:24:44.840 it's somebody at a conference. But that also doesn't mean that there can't be 1183 01:24:44.960 --> 01:24:46.239 value in the things that those people right, Because I mean, I can 1184 01:24:46.279 --> 01:24:53.279 tell you Blovotsky's work is a lot more legitimate than Ishmael Perez or David Bilcock, 1185 01:24:54.039 --> 01:24:56.640 you know. So, But that doesn't that doesn't also mean that everything 1186 01:24:56.680 --> 01:24:59.319 she wrote with if she's a human being, she made mistakes. She probably 1187 01:24:59.319 --> 01:25:01.199 was driven a little by her ego, and you know, she might have 1188 01:25:01.239 --> 01:25:05.039 inflated things that she believed. And but then again, I know I can 1189 01:25:05.079 --> 01:25:09.840 also add to this, like I don't I don't ever talk about this, 1190 01:25:09.880 --> 01:25:13.600 but I've had since I was younger, I've had experiences where I've seen things 1191 01:25:13.640 --> 01:25:18.720 that otherwise, you know, aren't necessarily there. Even more recently, I've 1192 01:25:19.079 --> 01:25:23.960 heard things that aren't necessarily being heard by other people. I'm not delusional or 1193 01:25:24.000 --> 01:25:27.319 crazy. I don't know what those things were. It could have been anything. 1194 01:25:27.359 --> 01:25:30.159 I mean, there's technology today to literally beam signals for advertisements and people's 1195 01:25:30.159 --> 01:25:33.880 heads from billboards from fifty feet one hundred feet two hundre feet away. Yeah, 1196 01:25:34.640 --> 01:25:38.319 it could be technology. It could be my subconscious it could be a 1197 01:25:38.319 --> 01:25:41.600 little angel and demon, it could be something else. It could be something 1198 01:25:41.680 --> 01:25:44.479 supernatural. I mean, obviously, if I can't explain it in the physical 1199 01:25:44.520 --> 01:25:47.479 world, it is supernatural. So like I've had experiences, and if I 1200 01:25:48.199 --> 01:25:54.000 if I wrote a book about my experiences, I would probably sound pretty way 1201 01:25:54.000 --> 01:25:56.560 I could do so. So a lot of it is how you word it, 1202 01:25:56.600 --> 01:25:58.800 too, And a lot of people don't care how they word it. 1203 01:25:58.840 --> 01:26:02.800 They just like because because the words that sell are channeling and God and lioness, 1204 01:26:02.920 --> 01:26:10.079 priestess, warrior, princess. Aucturian plodians say the particuli garc omega, 1205 01:26:10.159 --> 01:26:15.239 alpha, epsilon fleet you know that kind of crap. No, I'm right 1206 01:26:15.239 --> 01:26:19.560 there with you. I've had some really extrage experiences growing up and throughout my 1207 01:26:19.600 --> 01:26:24.479 teenage years, and some experiences into my adult years. But I don't pretend 1208 01:26:24.600 --> 01:26:28.359 to know what those things were. I don't pretend to know, and honestly 1209 01:26:28.399 --> 01:26:31.000 I don't care. I don't care. I don't care to know what they 1210 01:26:31.000 --> 01:26:35.039 were. I think things like that, we're not meant to know what it 1211 01:26:35.079 --> 01:26:39.319 is. We're not supposed to know, you know. But there's so many 1212 01:26:39.319 --> 01:26:45.239 people that want to know so badly that they're willing to listen to anybody that's 1213 01:26:45.279 --> 01:26:48.199 going to tell them about it. Right, They're going to go to an 1214 01:26:48.239 --> 01:26:55.920 internet psychic that says that they can channel their higher self and tell them exactly 1215 01:26:55.960 --> 01:26:59.840 what they experienced. No, you can't, you know, I guarantee you, 1216 01:27:00.640 --> 01:27:04.039 Ryan, if you went to one of these Internet psychics or one of 1217 01:27:04.079 --> 01:27:10.840 these Internet channel or people and told them about your experience, they would say, 1218 01:27:10.840 --> 01:27:13.800 Oh, you were abducted by the gray aliens from Rosida Riticuli, and 1219 01:27:13.800 --> 01:27:17.960 you were taking on aboard the ship and you were experimented on and they jerked 1220 01:27:17.960 --> 01:27:24.199 you off with a with a machine and got your seamen and all this stuff, 1221 01:27:24.239 --> 01:27:28.239 and they interjected the thoughts and ideas and your mind screen memories into your 1222 01:27:28.239 --> 01:27:30.079 mind and you got all this missing time and you need to be regressed. 1223 01:27:31.279 --> 01:27:36.199 Sounds like every every alien story I've ever heard, But that's the first thing 1224 01:27:36.199 --> 01:27:41.520 that they jumped to, Right, they dumped the extraterrestrials, especially people that 1225 01:27:41.600 --> 01:27:45.079 want to get regressed in this community. Right if they even have any kind 1226 01:27:45.119 --> 01:27:48.359 of inkling that something weird happened to them one night or they had a weird 1227 01:27:48.479 --> 01:27:54.119 dream, right that it was automatically aliens, And if they go to a 1228 01:27:54.159 --> 01:27:58.239 regressionist, it's a part of this community. I guarantee you every time they 1229 01:27:58.239 --> 01:28:01.000 will find aliens and actually trusts. Yeah yeah, yeah, Well, I 1230 01:28:01.039 --> 01:28:03.479 mean it's like it's like the idea of the psychic who's like all right, 1231 01:28:03.520 --> 01:28:10.039 So I'm getting that you have a mother and a father. Is that true? 1232 01:28:10.199 --> 01:28:12.239 I do have a mom and a dad, right, that kind of 1233 01:28:12.239 --> 01:28:15.159 thing. Yeah, the cold reading and the cold reading from psychics. But 1234 01:28:15.279 --> 01:28:19.119 hey, you know what, I've met what I considered to be two in 1235 01:28:19.159 --> 01:28:21.880 my entire life. And that's not a lot because I've done this a long 1236 01:28:21.920 --> 01:28:25.920 time, thirteen years. But I've met two people I believe to be legitimate 1237 01:28:25.960 --> 01:28:29.720 psychics. How I define psychic might be different than some of your listeners, 1238 01:28:29.760 --> 01:28:32.279 but I know people that two people I've met, one of them is a 1239 01:28:32.279 --> 01:28:35.720 friend of mine, who I think are legitimate psychics. And the difference it's 1240 01:28:35.760 --> 01:28:39.680 the same for both of them, and they're from different parts of the country. 1241 01:28:40.079 --> 01:28:45.199 Saying that's the same thing that they share in common is they don't really 1242 01:28:45.199 --> 01:28:50.640 sell themselves and they don't just take any client, and they don't a lot 1243 01:28:50.640 --> 01:28:56.399 of times they help people for free, and they back out of readings because 1244 01:28:56.439 --> 01:29:00.840 they're just too energetically drained. And again, they don't like sell themselves. 1245 01:29:00.840 --> 01:29:03.720 So like, that's usually the difference between a legitimate psyche and someone who's like 1246 01:29:03.800 --> 01:29:09.000 every can find aliens and everything. I'm getting that you have an epidermis. 1247 01:29:09.119 --> 01:29:11.560 Is that true? You know? Do you do? You have lungs? 1248 01:29:11.680 --> 01:29:14.880 I'm getting you know that kind of thing. There's a huge difference. I'm 1249 01:29:14.920 --> 01:29:19.640 sensing that you have two extraterrestrial guides. One lives on a Drameda planet seven, 1250 01:29:20.000 --> 01:29:25.800 another in the Palladian star system planet nine, and they're here to help 1251 01:29:26.119 --> 01:29:30.479 save you and send you into the fifth dimension, the next evolutionary level above 1252 01:29:30.560 --> 01:29:34.720 human in heaven. Just sit and meditate for twenty hours a day. Don't 1253 01:29:34.760 --> 01:29:40.000 do anything to better your life. Just sit back and enjoy the show. 1254 01:29:40.159 --> 01:29:45.319 Just change your thought process. No action is required. Just sit and think 1255 01:29:45.359 --> 01:29:49.680 yourself into good situations. And why you're sitting there thinking? Go to cash 1256 01:29:49.680 --> 01:29:54.920 app, Venmo, PayPal and it's gonna be three hundred dollars you know that. 1257 01:29:56.159 --> 01:30:00.359 Yeah, gotta payout for those small Listen. I saw some, buddy, 1258 01:30:00.359 --> 01:30:01.640 real quick. I saw some. I went to the five D Conference. 1259 01:30:01.640 --> 01:30:05.479 Do you know what the five D Conference is? Oh? Yeah? 1260 01:30:05.520 --> 01:30:08.520 So, first of all, the guy that runs that is a class a 1261 01:30:08.600 --> 01:30:14.000 piece of trash. Firsthand experiences, he's disgusting and gross, always filling up 1262 01:30:14.000 --> 01:30:15.359 on all the hot women. But then when the older women come in, 1263 01:30:15.399 --> 01:30:18.039 it's no more love and light. You don't want to hug the older women, 1264 01:30:18.119 --> 01:30:19.960 you know, just the young women. Let me give you some love 1265 01:30:20.000 --> 01:30:24.039 in some light. That's how this guy is. But I saw this woman, 1266 01:30:24.119 --> 01:30:27.000 one of these psychics at this conference, and I am not I have 1267 01:30:27.039 --> 01:30:29.319 a video of it. I don't know where it's that. I have to 1268 01:30:29.319 --> 01:30:30.800 find it in my hard drive, but I have a video. This woman 1269 01:30:31.479 --> 01:30:35.680 was giving people psychic readings. Okay, writer, And I look over and 1270 01:30:35.800 --> 01:30:40.399 here's how this is no joke, because how the psychic reading went. She 1271 01:30:40.520 --> 01:30:43.680 sits in a chair, a chair right here. You sit in a chair 1272 01:30:43.800 --> 01:30:47.880 right here. She then takes her foot and she massages with her foot your 1273 01:30:47.920 --> 01:30:54.279 private parts and then says, can you feel the energy? Can you feel 1274 01:30:54.279 --> 01:30:57.439 the energy? And then proceeds to give you that random you know, do 1275 01:30:57.479 --> 01:31:00.039 you have a mother father thing? And I saw the same thing that a 1276 01:31:00.199 --> 01:31:01.560 woman doing it. I see a guy, I can I can feel it. 1277 01:31:01.640 --> 01:31:05.520 I can feel it. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, the energy is 1278 01:31:05.560 --> 01:31:10.680 really building. And then I saw a guy do that at contact one time. 1279 01:31:10.960 --> 01:31:12.960 He's like, I swear to God, du he's got There's a woman 1280 01:31:13.000 --> 01:31:15.920 on the table and conventionally she's she's pretty attractive a young, young lady and 1281 01:31:15.920 --> 01:31:20.600 this guy's like creepy and old and he's just like he's like basically grabbing her 1282 01:31:20.640 --> 01:31:25.800 breasts and he's like, so do you feel the energy? People on video 1283 01:31:25.800 --> 01:31:28.079 can see it's like, can you feel can you feel that in the hands, 1284 01:31:28.159 --> 01:31:30.560 between the legs, can you feel me move the energy between your and 1285 01:31:30.560 --> 01:31:34.720 I'm like, I felt like I'm being sexually assaulted. I'm not even on 1286 01:31:34.760 --> 01:31:40.279 the table. It's just it's so ridiculously just discuss. By the way, 1287 01:31:40.319 --> 01:31:43.960 I got banned from ETTI because I pointed some of that stuff out. But 1288 01:31:44.119 --> 01:31:46.439 that's another story. Yeah, I know a little bit about that. But 1289 01:31:46.479 --> 01:31:53.079 that's something that Press and Nichols would do as well. He would jerk people 1290 01:31:53.079 --> 01:31:59.880 off, like the Mont Talk Mont Talk boys to get their memories back. 1291 01:32:00.359 --> 01:32:02.840 That's literally what he would do. Bro. I know, he would take 1292 01:32:02.840 --> 01:32:06.159 them into a room and jerk them off so that they can receive their memories. 1293 01:32:06.520 --> 01:32:12.439 So it's literally a circle jerk of it's a con and that's why they 1294 01:32:12.520 --> 01:32:15.920 name all these conferences. That's why they're like alien con, UFO con. 1295 01:32:15.439 --> 01:32:18.439 At least that part's not consumer fraud. At least that parts off. That's 1296 01:32:18.520 --> 01:32:23.760 that part's honesty, because James, James Gillen has a secret room upstairs on 1297 01:32:23.840 --> 01:32:27.279 top of one of the places where he takes the women to do vibration treatments. 1298 01:32:27.319 --> 01:32:30.000 And I don't want to know what those favorite vibration treatments and tail personally, 1299 01:32:30.000 --> 01:32:36.279 but I can only imagine, oh Man, vibrational treatments, not vibration 1300 01:32:36.479 --> 01:32:41.560 vibrator treatments. Vibrator treatments he's got. He's got magic wands up there and 1301 01:32:41.560 --> 01:32:45.479 all kinds of stuff. Well, Ryan, thanks so much for coming on, 1302 01:32:45.520 --> 01:32:46.680 brother. I really appreciate the conversation. I had a lot of fun 1303 01:32:46.760 --> 01:32:49.680 here tonight. I hope everyone else enjoyed it. Everyone in the child. 1304 01:32:49.720 --> 01:32:53.840 How's it going, Jenna Banana, Good to see you. Yeah. 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