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have with this author, un radio personality and producer of the show The Secret
Teachings that I met at Contact in a desert this year, Ryan Gable.
Welcome to the show. Brother. How's it going, my friend, It's
going pretty good as well as can be. It's really nice to be here
on your show. You're run mine recently and we had a really good conversation.
Yeah, I was just on there a few weeks back and if people
caught that you've you've been really doing this for a long time. You told
me before we started the show, that you've been doing this for twelve years
now, I think you said, and I really want to get what your
experience has been with this community and how your perspective on certain topics and ideas
have changed things throughout the years, because you've seen a lot of things come
and go and a lot of people come and go. So talk to us
about that. Yeah, sure, thing. I'll try to keep it relatively
simple. I've been doing this for i'd say professionally about eight years, but
I've been doing radio since two thousand nine, two ten, so it's way
over a decade, thirteen going on fourteen years. And yes, I have
seen a lot of stuff. When I first began radio, it was a
volunteer gig and I didn't know anything about anything, and so I initially just
kind of talked about things that were interesting. I didn't really know what was
what was real, what was not real, what's you know, a conspiracy?
What's a theory? What's a conspiracy theory? I didn't know anything about
anything. I just did whatever was interesting to talk about. And then over
the years, I I read a lot of books and interviewed a lot of
people, and I started to get more professional at what I did, and
I started to make connections, and I went to events, conferences, things
like that, and I started to notice that even in the so called alternative
communities or in alternative radio, alternative podcasting, whatever you want to call it,
whatever community or whatever term you want to apply, that people there just
as biased and just as subjective as people that follow the mainstream of anything.
And that really kind of wowed me. And it wasn't just political things.
It was things dealing with UFOs and dealing with conspiracy theories, and so I
took a step back from all of that, from every side, of every
angle, of every subject, and I really thought a process that probably took
about two years of processing it in order for it to really turn into something
of value for me. And I realized, Okay, so a lot of
the stuff that we think is, you know, the mainline of viewpoints on
everything is obviously not accurate. So that doesn't mean the alternative is always accurate.
So I really started to study psychology and like fallacies and try to understand
how all that works. And I use fallacies a lot on my show now.
I use them as a grounding point, a base point to try to
figure out what's really going on, So long story short to summarize, very
briefly and very quickly, thirteen years later from when I started, I've come
to the conclusion that there is as much disinformation, misinformation, wha could do,
ignorance and arrogance in the alternative world as there is in the mainstream world.
And there are very very few places you can go and very few people
authors, journalists, speakers, et cetera, very few people who have a
grounded perspective and are able to have a conversation without trying to push some other
alternative or independent or some crazy whack could do theory. So I guess simply
to answer your question, as you take note of the fact that you know,
people that watch certain mainline news have their own biases, people that watch
certain alternative news have their own biases. But then you get into the world
of like the alternative of the alternative. I don't know if you call it
new age or whatevery term again we want to apply to it. But you
get into that world and you start to realize that these people are just like
everybody else. Nobody has the answer to everything. We don't have the solutions,
and the best thing to do is just have conversations and point out inconsistencies
about interesting topics and see where that information leads us. And so that's where
I've gone full circle over the last thirteen or so years. And it's weird
because I'm at that exact same position you're in, just only three years into
it, right, And I believe it's very clear that the more you dig
into these topics and the more nonsense and hypocrisy that you find, right,
and the more you have to use mental gymnastics to make sense of it.
Right. And it's like you said, it's all filled with fallacies and lives
and conjecture, and it seems like a blatant way to confuse everyone and divide
this Yes, I think, I mean UFOs is a really great example.
So for example, I'll give you my opinion on the UFO issue very quickly.
I personally agree with Carl Young. I think that UFOs largely are a
psychic phenomena, and I think that we are manifesting them. That doesn't mean
that there aren't physical things, but I think we are manifesting them in the
and pop culture. It's a new mythology. It's something that we can understand
today with the ideas of space travel and you know, spaceships and things like
this. It's a new mythology, it's a modern myth and it's something that
again that doesn't mean it's not real, but it's not secret space programs that
are run by crazy people on YouTube that have secret information every week. But
there probably is a secret space program. And likewise, every UFO you see
in the sky probably isn't an alien spaceship, but some of them might be
things that really are truly unidentifiable. And that's the only way we're going to
get to any kind of real substance is if we take a balanced objective,
as objective as possible approach the topics like that. And I'll tell you what
the reason I bring this up as an example is because when I was at
Contact this year, I told a few people, I said, I just
feel like UFOs are kind of like a psychic phenomenon. I said, it's
not my opinion that Carl Young said that years ago, decades ago, wrote
a book on it, and oh my god, the reaction I got from
people was just like I killed their savior, I killed Jesus Christ or something,
and I didn't understand it. It's like, aren't we here to have
a conversation, like an open dialogue about these fascinating things, and you just
have a it's a theology, it's a belief system, writer, it's what
it is. It's like a cult. That's exactly what it is. And
it's not really so much for the lack of information, right, It's that
there's been an advanced, coordinated effort to mock people with complete and utter disinformation.
And that disinformation comes directly from the conspiracy community, the truth or community,
the New Age community, and the UFO communities, is what I've found.
Right, how many times have we heard I've studied a lot of these
cults. I'm doing a series on the UFO cults right now, and they've
been predicting mass landings of extraterrestrial races since the thirties and it's just never happened.
Where are they? Why? Why haven't this shown up? All the
predictions that never come true, all the people that are reincarnated as prophets,
and you know people that are you know, these really famous people throughout history,
you know, like the David Wilcock Edgar Casey story. He's Edgar Casey
reincarnated to people like Corey Good or what was he? He was the prophet
Enoch. I think reincarnated. You know, it's these people always reincarnate as
these really powerful I mean more than likely you were a peasant who worked in
a field, or were you know, a slave at some point in history.
You probably weren't a prophet or a king or a queen if you're reincarnated.
But that it's it's delusional, and that this is what frustrates me personally.
Writers that I love these topics. I love discussing, uh, you
know, the supernatural. I love discussing UFOs. I love discussing, for
lack of a better term, conspiracies. I'm a huge history buff. I
just read, I just wrote a huge history book myself, actually just published
it. And I love all these things and and everything else. Like I'm
just fascinated by anything and everything. I want to learn, learn, learn,
learn, And I don't like when people knowingly or unknowingly, especially knowingly
spread this information in the form of sensational garbage that gets clicks and clout online
because it's fake, it's insincere, and it harms and does damage to good,
honest people that want to grow and learn, and especially people that want
to achieve some level of internal, introspective spiritual development. It really it takes
advantage of those people, and that personally makes me really angry because I don't
want to be taken advantage of, and I have been in the past,
and I see other people being taken advantage of the day, and it's not
my responsibility to help those people. But I just that's fine. That's so
disgusting and wrong, and that's what really makes me upset about all this stuff
personally. Yeah, it's really sad that it's that way, right, It's
sad you're looking for something more than what's going on in the mainstream, and
then you have to sift through all this nonsensical garbage fear mongering, right,
And another really hard pill to swallow that I've realized, and you mentioned it
earlier, is that the people in this community. And I'm not talking about
my audience. My audience is great. I'm talking about other people. I
hope people don't ever think that I'm like talking about the people on my show
or the people that are in the chatter or listening to this right now.
I'm talking about the community as a whole. Right, They are just as
brainwashed as the people that they're claiming are really brainwashed. They've just been hit
in a different way, but it's all the same. The community has become
its own worst enemy, right, and I'm really starting to get very disillusion
with it. Right. It's literally filled with fear mongers. This is going
to happen. Russia is going to hit us with a cyber attack next week.
Our money is going to collapse, food is no longer going to be
available. Society is on the brink of disaster every single day with these people,
and it hasn't happened. And critical thinking makes me see that it's never
going to happen unless we make it happen, right, That's the only way
we have to make it happen. It's exactly like these UFO calts that I've
been covering. They're just stringing along their followers like with the UFO cats.
Any day now, the UFOs are going to show up and land and rapture
us up into the next evolutionary level above human where we're going to be transformed
into extraterrestrials. And it never happens, but they're still there waiting. The
truth community and the conspiracy community and the extraterrestrial UFO community is the exact same
way. They're just leading the people along. Yeah, And you know what,
I it was honestly a surprise over the years to me, going back
to your original question, it's kind of a surprise to me to find so
much of that in communities or at you know, conferences, or around people
that you would assume have much more open minds and should be able to engage
in very objective, you know, dialogue about complex issues or issues that are
really difficult to really nail down, like something you know, paranormal, supernatural
UFO related. So, you know, going back to that first question again,
you would ask me like what my experience has been through all this.
And I don't know if you remember this, but I'm sure a lot of
people listening don't. I don't talk about it much anymore. But when I
was at Contact in the Desert, what was it, twenty seventeen, twenty
eighteen, and Jordan Saylor, who was making the rounds, was there and
he had done a presentation about QAnon and I wasn't trying to be you know,
like a really nasty, angry heckler. I just went up to him
after the presentation. He was outside on the lawn of the court yard of
the hotel and he had a bunch of people around him, and I it's
on video. I just respectfully said, hey, I got a question.
Everything you're saying sounds like some kind of theological dogma. You're talking about like
basically Reptilians and Plaidians. It's like demons and angels. You're talking about God
and the devil. There's the deep State versus the cabal. It's this heaven
hell, good and evil conflict, this dichotomy, this polarity. It just
sounds like it sounds like a cult. And and it's like there's like maybe
five percent of the Quanon stuff that's real, and a majority of it is
just an exaggeration, sensationalism and just scarbage. It's nonsense, but it could
be based on something real. And I even pointed that out, and so
they said that that was heckling. They said that I attacked him. But
because of that event, that that got my name injected more into the groups
of those people who who do that kind of stuff professionally and rip people off
to make a living. And that same weekend I had talked to I don't
know if you remember this. I had talked to Emory Smith and I got
the audio clip of Emory Smith's saying that, yeah, Jordan's Saylor had dosed
them, and Corey Good had given the had given the go ahead to do
the dock scene, and Jordan's say there was the main docks or releasing everybody's
personal information, and David Wilcock had threatened them to make threatened Themorysmith to make
things up or he'd be out of the grift, and he just I mean,
I don't know if I can trust everything the guy said. But just
because I got that little clip of audio, I mean it like it was
like a nuclear bomb detonated within this these communities and everybody just went at each
other, and it's just so bizarre. It shouldn't be like that. Maybe
I'm idealistic, but that's why I do what I do writer, because and
I know that's why you do what you do. I get so sick of
the line, and then to expose the line and get treated like you're the
wire. It's really weird. It is really really it's interesting that you brought
up Q and on because I just did a UFO call video doomsday call video
party last week with the I Am called with Guy and Edna Ballard here and
yeah, literally, you dude, if you just switch out Trump and JFK.
Junior that was supposed to be running the Q and on nonsense, uh,
with Guy and the ballot here, you have the exact same thing.
It's almost the exact same thing that was going on in the thirties. It's
like it's like a cult mad lib. You just fill in the fill in
the blanks. Yeah, it's unbelievable. I mean, the whole Saint Jermaine
thing turned into a Saint Jermain Trust that was going to restore the gold standard
to the money that we use, and then we were going to be that
Saint Jermaine was going to take over the government with the Ascended Masters, that
the Ascended Masters are going to overthrow the government and in still a new government
sound that we were going to be put into this new age of humanity.
It's the exact same thing, dude. That's what I've discovered is that these
stories and these ideas and these thought forms are these aggregors is what I call
them, have been created and then they just constantly get regurgitated with a new
and different spin on it. Someone else gets ahold of it, a new
generation gets ahold of it. They don't know where it came from because it's
been a passed down through so many different people where they don't realize where it
came from when it came from one of these UFO cults, right, And
then they take that information and then they add just a little bit of stuff
onto it and then create their own ascended masters, like a guy and the
Ballard here did with Elena Brovlovski and a few other of the occult writers of
the time, ripped off them, created their own ascended masters, and then
that's just what happens since then. As there's a lot of that. There's
a lot of people that and I mean these are names that are if anybody
listening pays attention to any of this stuff or listens even you know, a
little bit to radio or podcasts, et cetera, you know what I'm talking
about. There's a lot of people that take on names like there's people I've
seen two or three people at conferences. I know this isn't their real name,
but they go by the name Saint Jermaine. There's people that name themselves
Thoth. There's I met. I met Raw, the sun God at the
conference. I don't know if I told you that his name was Raw.
Yeah, I met him too. Yeah, nice to meet your right.
I didn't know that the Egyptian sun God made it over here to Arizona at
a conference I went to. And it's just like I don't. I don't
get it, Like I don't. It's creating this persona. It's so fake,
it's so disingenuous, it's so dishonest, and it is so it's so
conflicting with the sincerity of some really good actual researchers or journalists. I'll tell
you one thing real quick that I that I saw that really was a turning
point for me. It was at Contact in the Desert in like two thousand.
It was six sixteen, one of the first years I went. And
I got up, got up early one morning, and I went up to
the main hall where there was going to be a speaker, and the speaker
after this speaker was going to be uh, you know, Stephen Greer,
and he was going to show some movie he had made. And so at
the door to the entrance of this big hall where they were going to have
this presentation. Uh, Jim Mars, famous journalist author, he was,
he had his set up there. Personally, I just thought Jim Mars was
a very respectable person. He was a friend of mine, and he had
his set up, he had his books there, and I was actually spending
some time with him, and I remember his assistant got up to go somewhere,
and he decided to get up and go to the restroom. So he
asked me if I could watch his table. So I'm watching Jim's table and
here comes Stephen Greer and his goons that are wearing bulletproof vests for some reason,
with like tasers and handguns you know, all around like a bat belt
because they're they're they're threatened by something and it's all it's all for show.
So they like set their stuff down on Jim's table and it's his table.
They you know, they give you at these organized events, they give these
speakers a table. It's your table, and Stephen Green people just put their
stuff down and I said, hey, you can't, like you can put
your stuff down for a second, but you can't keep it there. They
said, oh no, no, no, we're taking this table. And
they just push Jim mars is stuff, you know, off the table.
They start to push it off the table, and I'm just like, I
mean, I don't care who it is. Even if it was just some
random person who wrote a random book, it wasn't Jim Mars, Like,
it's so disrespectful and like, just someone that acts like that is what Stephen
Greer did. It's someone that acts like that. How can I trust that
person to tell me anything that is truthful or honest if it's something so minimal,
something so simple, You're just going to be that much of a low
life degenerate about I can't trust anything you say, just little things like that.
Over the years I've experienced and people ask me, like, why don't
you like Stephen Greer? There's a great even if what he's saying is true,
Like, how can I trust the guy when he acts like that?
You know? That's the kind of thing that gets me. Yeah, fireflies,
I'm pretty sure that was raw that converted the tanning beds and the med
beds and then try to sell med beds sessions from verted tanning bed Yeah,
yeah, as are probably expensive sessions. Two fireflies, it's like two three
thousand dollars a session. Oh yeah, there, but it's imbued. It's
imbued with the energy of doctors. Yeah, ros the god of the Sun,
anyway, couldn't he just like bring down the sun, raise and give
you a nice tan and heal you with the rays of the sun. And
why he needs a tanning bed to do that? But all right, yeah,
it's unbelievable. And not of all the people in the world, that
guy gets picked to be the incarnation of the sun god am and Raw.
Right, you know, there's a there's a more powerful A lot of people
don't know. This is I just wrote a book called Garden of Hallucinations,
and this book I when I was on research for it, I found this
god I'd never heard of before. And he Raw is considered the most powerful
sun god of the most powerful god of the entire Egyptian pantheon. But there
is one god in Egypt who is above all the other gods. His name
is Heck or Heca, h e Ka, more powerful than all the other
gods. So I'm just the reincarnation of Hecca and Robs my subordinate. And
there's more to come on that. I'll let you know. You know,
we'll dose some channeling sessions with this really powerful Egyptian god writer. I am
Hecca reincarnated. Well, as long as it's not Hecker reincarnated. I think
you'll. I think you'll be all right. How can you just I don't
understand. I just I felt like an idiot even joking about that, Like,
how do you say that with a straight face and make money from it?
I don't think we have someone in the house. Hound Dog has got
one of your books. Brother, Hey, that's wonderful. Oh, Occult
Arcana. It's a big book. I hope that you enjoy it. And
hound Dog also sent a two dollars super chat and thanks so much hand Dog,
appreciate your kindness, generosity and support of the show. Yeah, it's
unbelievable these Uh. I'm really kind of back and forth with Stephen Greer a
lot because some things he says is like, okay, you know, like
he was one of the first people that I hear talk about the my lab
military abductions, which I think that's what all of them are. I don't
think they're extra trestrials. I think is literally the military that's doing the abductions.
And uh, but I agree with you a lot of the other stuff
you talk it's just not then his documentaries, it's just the same thing over
and over and over again. And any crowdfunds. All the making of his
documentaries, it takes like what twenty thousand, thirty thousand dollars to make and
then he's crowdfunding like five hundred thousand dollars to a million dollars, Like,
where's all that money going? Bro? You know, it doesn't take five
hundred thousand dollars to make one of your documentaries. I just made a documentary
JFKX Solving the Crime of This Century for like a thousand dollars and a month
of my time. Yeah, I went to film school, and anything we
did in film school, I mean, once you have the cameras and little
editing editing equipment, it doesn't cost you know that much money, Right,
This is a This is what a lot of them do. They It's like
there's a tiny bit of sincerity and a tiny bit of genuineness and they just
use that as the source of ripping people off. Because you tell people like,
we want to find the truth, we want to find answers, we
want to we want to figure things out, and the average person wants the
truth and they want to figure things out, and they want the answers to
life's big questions. So you follow someone who promises you that and they just
constantly tell you, well, we need more money to do it, We
need more money to figure this out, we need more money for the truth.
It's it's it's I don't even call it a grift, though, writer,
because a grift is by definition a small swinder swindle. This isn't a
small swindle. These people are engaged in massive, massive swindles. I mean,
some of this stuff is I'm I've heard other people talk about on their
on their shows before too. A lot of this stuff is like illegal consumer
fraud. These people are engaged in et cetera. So anyway, I saw
the listener they said, Hecate That's that's a different goddess. I'm talking about
heca h e ka, it's an Egyptian god. But oh yeah, Joe
Joe's yeah, yeah, there's a few Greer fans in here. But I
mean King James says that Greer talks about kidnapping, the DNA harvesting and probing,
and it's a probably a probing and probing is a friendly endeavor. Yes,
take it up. The bove from s extra trust. They they don't
want to hurt you. They probe your wallet is what they're doing. They're
prob making sure they get all the dollars out. Well. If I may
add one more thing to the to this is when you think about like the
I don't know what, I don't know, I don't know what to call
it anymore, writer, but the UFO community whatever, I don't know what
to call it. But you think about the UFO community, the history of
it. We talked about this on my show when you were on there.
There are plenty of hard like physical black and white government records. You can
get your hands on them. I don't know how much of those you want
to trust. But there's a famous document called the Robertson Panel Report from nineteen
fifty two fifty three, and in that document the government was talking this was
like early intelligence agency years, right. They were talking about infiltrating UFO groups.
They admitted, they acknowledged there's something going on. There's some kind of
phenomena. They don't know even necessarily what it is, but they know that
people are interested in it, and so they wanted to infiltrate UFO groups with
agents to discredit, and also just to keep an eye on what those groups
were doing to see if maybe they figured something out before the government figured it
out. And part of the way that they were going to kind of manipulate
the public was not just infiltrating those groups and keeping an eye on people like
Richard Dotty did and you've seen the movie Garagan, but it was also spreading
this information within those groups and using Disney and other forms of entertainment, colleges,
etc. To intentionally spread this information and going into the media and taking
something that looks like a really unexplainable event and unexplainable object, but they know
what it is, so when they present it to the public, it's unexplainable,
it's bizarre, it's odd. But then a couple of weeks later they
come out and they give you, oh, this is the answer. It's
a plane, it's this or that. So they can discredit things that were
never credible, and then they can keep quiet things that nobody can explain that
really should be addressed and investigated. And that's from nineteen fifty three, and
then we saw all these Hollywood movies come out. I mean even at that
time, but many years later, throughout the fifties and sixties. I mean,
this has been ongoing, these psychological behavioral type nudging propaganda campaigns. So
there is something real about all of this stuff, but there's so much fake
stuff that it just gets completely buried and it's hard to know where to start
looking. Why do you think that they would want to do that. Why
do you think that they would want to infiltrate these UFO groups and spread all
this miss and disinformation. I mean, I can only think of two reasons.
One, it's a real phenomena and they want to throw people off the
scent of what's really happening. Or Two, they're trying to cover up their
own technology and that it's their craft that has been developed and they're trying to
get it people off of this scent that it's really them the entire time,
but blaming it on extraterstrials as the scapegoat really gets everybody to look in the
opposite direction of what's actually happening. I actually think it's probably a little bit
of both of those things, maybe more so the former, but it's probably
a combination of both. I mean, a person in my personal opinion.
What I think the reason for that is is, I mean, this is
at a time at the end of World War Two, and obviously this was
during and prior to the end of World War two as well. You had
food fighters and ghost rockets, and you had the Battle of Los Angeles,
that etheric type thing over LA and you also had etheroric discs that were seen
in Spine for Germany in nineteen forty three, I think it was and over
time those etheric things and the ghost rockets and the food fighters became more physical.
Part of that idea of that's really a psychic phenomena that's been literally manifested
as an aggregor tulpa, thought form, goalum, etc. So I think
a lot of it, yes, has to do certainly with military technology,
but also we can speculate and theorize beyond that and think maybe whatever these things
are, I don't know what they are. Stephen Grew doesn't know what they
are. If anybody knew exactly what they are, that has shown us one
hundred percent and disputable evidence by now. So whatever these things are, and
there's probably a lot of different aspects and angles to them, different ways to
look at them, different interpretations whatever they are, though it's probably a matter
of one government doesn't want the public to panic. I do believe that because
if they don't know what it is and it's interfering with military technology, I
mean, it's a threat to every country on the planet. It's a big
threat to humanity. They probably want to keep that secret. I do buy
that a little tiny bit, But part of it probably is just using that
as a scapegoat like they did throughout the Cold War to test, you know,
the SR seventy one and spy planes, and then that really just became
a part of the pop culture, part of the mythology. It makes a
lot of money when you make an alien movie. People love alien movies,
they love alien conversation. So it just it developed outside of the mythology.
It developed as sort of a commercialized product, and I think the government now
uses it just like you know, just like people on video various streaming platforms
and podcasts do. When you really want a good show topic and you really
want people to listen and pay attention, you got to name your show Illuminati.
Alien reptilians flying UFOs down to Earth and abduct people in probram People love
topics like that, the hashtags, it just draws people in. So the
government. Government does the same thing. When you want something to distract the
public from a political scandal. Suddenly, oh look there's UFO documents, and
both political sides of the spectrum do it. You know they're involved in some
kind of corruption. Suddenly, oh we might release if you vote for me,
we'll release those UFFO documents real quick. It's it's the same thing as
far as I'm concerned. Same with the JFK files too. Oh yeah,
well I get in. Now we're gonna release all those JFK files in there,
and they never do it, and now they're all sealed. You're never
going to be released. Jeannette, I think that that's also a scapegoat as
well. I'm leaning toward because a lot of people and even myself I decided
that they started out as you know, German craft, and that's what people
have been seen. But I think that that it's quite possibly another scapegoat to
put the fall on. You know, it's not if it doesn't turn out
that it's extra terrestrials. Oh it was the Germans. It was all them,
you know, pawning it off onto a different country or a different group
of people, like they're are so fond of doing all the time. But
I think that there is some truth to that, the Glaca bell technology and
the Snora Ara Club which was also funded by Prussia, which was Germany before
Germany was Germany, and northern California. So I think that there is some
truth there. But I think that it's it's also kind of a scapegoatie thing
to try and possibly fall back on sometime in the future if things don't work
out according to their plans. I was just I was just thinking that,
like having this conversation with your rider, and then if you go to I
don't know, whatever the streaming platform is. There's a bunch of platforms.
You listen to other podcasts, radio shows, etc. You know. I
don't like advertising personally. I'm not a good marketer. I'm not a good
advertisers don't. I don't like it. It doesn't resonate with me. But
I understand why people advertise and why people, you know, they want to
make, you know, their image look good. I don't like this idea
of selling the truth, and I don't like this idea of selling like we've
got secret information you see this everywhere. It's like everybody knows exactly what aliens,
you know, aliens are, They know what UFOs are. They've got
lists of the different species, like sixty seven ninety five species, Like how
do you have a list of that? That doesn't make what are you talking
about? Right? Is the same thing with like you know, directed energy
weapons every overnight, just like that, instaneously, every every hack with a
TikTok account has the same exact, you know, ability to just get to
the heart the hardcore truth of the matter overnight, just like that. Nobody
else knows what happened, but this guy on TikTok knows exactly what went down,
and I just don't. It's it's everything. It's the commoditizing, is
the commercializing, the packaging and the selling of truth because people want the truth,
people want honesty, and people just sell the truth and what they actually
give you it's false advertising. What they actually give you just a bunch of
bs. Yeah, and I'm glad that you brought up the directed energy weapon
do stuff because that is well, you gotta do the do, do the
due all day long. Drink the dude, do the dude, touch the
dude. But it seems like that that really just kind of popped up overnight.
It's exactly what you're saying. It's almost exactly like the whole AI thing
as well. Right, how everyone before was like, oh, I'll never
I'll never use AI to make any artificial generated photos, I'll never use AI
to write any of my music or write any of my papers, And then
all of a sudden GPT comes along and then everyone's using it. Right,
all the things that they said prior there's just nothing now, and it's like
they forgot that they said any of that. And there's many of examples of
that throughout history where people are like, oh, I'll never let them do
that to me, I'll never fall for that, and then as soon as
it comes out they do it. They fall for it. They fall for
it every time, you know, because it's never the way, it's never
done the way that they think that it's going to be done, something unexpected,
something unexpected. And also it may I mean, it's easier to just
say well, I'm not going to do that, I'm going to resist that.
It's easy to say that before there's any consequences. It's a lot harder
to actually do that when there are consequences. Yeah, so I want to
talk to you about these fires in Hawaii because it did seem like everybody just
jumped on the do the Do bandwagon. You know it's dues. It was
the dudes. I know it was the dudes. You know. So what's
your thoughts in your opinions on what happened in Hawaii? Because to me,
it looks like just a bunch of negligence, right, they just did everything
wrong. So I have a few thoughts. I'll try to try to keep
them coherent. First of all, I don't know about you, but I'm
tired of words and acronyms in these discussions turning into verbs, like when people
like they're doing us, Like, what do you mean they're doing you?
That's not a word, first of all, Like or they ad drene a
chrome to those kids. What do you mean they ad drene a chrome with
those kids? That's not even that's not a word either. So I get
tired of the making up of words, first of all. Back in twenty
eighteen, I did a show about directed energy weapons on the Secret Teachings,
and I used I have these this promo picture that retaining their promo picture,
I make for every show, and it's a compilation. It's before I really
knew how to do really good artwork for my show promos. But I like
compilation of pictures of directed energy weapons, like from Lockheed Martin's website, raytheon
stuff that they were talking there's like stock photos. It's not real weapons like
stock photos CG stuff. And there was a picture I had in this compilation
of a rocket launch. It was a Falcon nine rocket launching from Vandenberg Air
Force or what they call Space Force Base in California. Yes, right,
and that was in twenty eighteen. I have that image and my compilation,
and then as soon as this story about Hawaii broke, I start seeing the
same image everywhere. So I didn't have to do any research at all.
Initially, I just had to go online and look at people sharing this picture
and I just kept I commented on every Twitter, every Facebook post I could
find. Those are the only social media sites I have. I said,
that's a Falcon X rocket. People would tell me you're working for somebody,
you're covering up the truth. I'm like, no, no, here's my
compilation from twenty eighteen. It's it's like the date is stamped on it.
I made it in twenty eighteen. Here's the show link from twenty eighteen.
That's a picture from five years ago that's not from Hawaii. And I noticed
something else. I noticed that on my Facebook page, writer I started.
I got two of them, two people that I don't I'm very discerning about
who i'd be friend. Two people I don't know. I never clicked friend
except I have. They have like no friends themselves. This is the photo
you're speaking about rain, Yes, And if you find the real the original
photo, it's not cropped at the top. The original photo, you can
actually see the rocket in the air, so it's they crop it as well
to make it look like some kind of laser hitting the ground when it's clearly
a rocket in the original picture. Yeah, I'm gonna bring up that original
picture to keep going. I just want people to see this and see the
fallacies of it. Okay, here's the original picture. Yeah, there's the
rocket or that's one of them. Is that the same one? But yeah,
it's what it looked like. You can see the rocket in the launch.
Yeah, so tom last, so, so I got these people that
came on is this is about the photo I had These people that just like
started posting things about this photo all over my Facebook. I don't know who
they were, and so I would comment on them and say, yeah,
I don't. I don't think that you're a person. I think you're a
sock puppet, which is a real government term the government, the US government
use sock puppets in Iraq and Afghanistan, digital agents, basically the fake accounts,
fake identities. So I said, I think you're a sock puppet and
they said, oh no, no, they said, we're you know,
we're on your side, like we know that you know, the deep state,
and they start using all these terms and I said, okay, you're
definitely a sock puppet. I'm deleting you. And then I got another one,
and then these pairs starts arguing with me, I don't know who these
people are, and then they and then they're deleted and their pages are gone
and there's no record of them on Facebook. I started thinking, are these
like government agents that are spreading I don't know for sure, I'm just saying.
I started thinking, are these government agents spreading this photograph of this rocket
too? And I started thinking the algorithm is promoting this, So the algorithm
is promoting it. It seemed I don't know if they're government agents or there's
wha couldoos, but they're people on social media coming to me after I did
a I hosted Ground Zero. That week, I did a show in Maoi.
I talked to some people in Hawaii on the show, and I did
my show, and right after that, this is when I got these people
come to my Facebook page and they're like, I don't know if they're government
agents or whackuldoo is what they are, but it was very weird. So
that was I thought that maybe what this is is this disinformation talk about a
conspiracy is being spread with by the algorithm and perhaps by government agencies or intelligence
agencies, something a keen to like miragement, spreading fake stories, you know,
about aliens and they want to steal our resources and eat humans or whatever.
So that's that's that's on the picture side of things. In terms of
the DWUS versus you know whatever the alternative narrative is the climate change. Both
of those are blaming U the event on something that is like kind of uncontrollable
because for people that believe in climate change is like really nothing you can do.
Just the world's falling apart. People that leave in d W use it's
a secret cabal using space based laser weapons. There's nothing we can do to
stop them. So I think I feel like both of those are basically the
same side of the same or two sides of the same coin. There's probably
another way to look at it. And if you were a power company,
like like Pacific Gas and Electric up in California, they admitted that they were
guilty of negligence. They didn't take care of the power lines, they didn't
trim the trees, they didn't take care of the infrastructure, and that's what
started the fire. They admitted it. They acknowledged it. People still don't
know that that in that paradise. Paradise wasn't burned because a DW came down
to kill aliens that we're living there, Like David Wilcock claimed, it burned
because of the negligence of the power company. And they take they take money
to maintain the infrastructure, and the state does too, but they don't do
anything to actually maintain it. So you get a lot of fires. And
same thing happened in Hawaii. There's there's videos. This is the thing that
got me right there's videos of on TikTok and other places that did not go
as viral. So while the viral directed energy weapon videos go viral, this
rocket ship that's they say as a laser, the videos of people in Lahina,
people in Maui outside filming power lines, coming down outside filming power lines
on the ground, sparking and starting fires, those videos didn't get promulgated and
promoted by the algorithm in the same way that the rocket stuff did. So
it's almost as if whether it's government or whether it's maybe corporate or a combination
of both, there are people online intentionally spreading clearly intentionally spreading disinformation about dws
with the shadow of doubt because dws are real weapons systems. You know,
they have the the ones that disable electronics. They have the ones that are
crowd control, crowd dispersal, those are the microwave weapons. They have systems
that I guess theoretically they could start a fire if they wanted to. So
the bottom line and to answer your question, it all seems like it's taking
away from intentional negligence and even mainstream media. There's like the AP and the
Washington Post and others were like it's really weird that Hawaiian Electric Company. They
went in there and right after the fire they started hauling away all those poles
and all the wires and all the evidence that was needed for an investigation to
find out what happened. Really strange they would go in and remove all that.
It's this isn't there's lawsuits now, there's like, this isn't the court
record, court documents. So it's like, we blame it on climate change,
we blame it on DWUS. Those are the two sides of the acceptable
argument to have. But if you step back and say, actually, it's
the negligence of the company, it's the people that own the company. It's
you know, the strangeness about the police chief of Maui, the same guy
from Las Vegas with the Las Vegas shooting, the locking of people basically in
their little town and burning people alive on that road out of Lahinah. All
weird thing is the shutting off of you know, the siren system in the
water. Something weird happened. It's not the fire that's weird. It's the
situation that was cultivated. It's the negligence. Those are the things that are
weird. It's not directed energy weapons, and it's not climate change. It's
it's something very man made, but something that our attention is removed from because
we're focused on these other hysterical theories about what happened. In my opinion,
absolutely, And this is a New York Times article talking about the warning sirens
never sounded on Maui. State official says none of the eighty warning sirens placed
around the island were activated in response to the devastating fire. Spokesman for Hawaii's
Emergency Management Agency confirmed, And that's not the only thing there. Their water
supply got diminished as well. They weren't able to have the water that they
needed to be able to fight the fires. They said that the fires collapse
the water system. But then there's other reports seeing that they intentionally shut off
the water, which I don't know how much truth. They've also had water,
They've had water pump problems there. I found articles in twenty seventeen they
had massive water pump issues all over the island Hawaiian islands, So having water
pump issues is also a very common thing down there as well. And and
and and this is the this is the issue that I come to writer is
that regardless of what started the fires, like there certainly is I don't I
don't know if I want to call it cover up, but there's certainly very
suspicious and odd and strange things that have happened, from the blocking of people
off from leaving, to the sirens, to the water being shut off,
like those are suspicious things, and those things are overlooked because somebody on TikTok
wants to get some clicks and some clout by sharing a picture of a rocket
ship that they've cropped so it looks like a laser beam hitting the island,
even though it wasn't an island and it was from twenty eighteen, And those
are the things that make it more difficult to get to the core of what
happened. And if it was like corporate negligence or even intentional negligence, like
they just allowed those those systems to deteriorate so so fires would eventually start like
they did in Paradise, then those people need to be held accountable. And
they're never going to be held accountable if we're always looking somewhere else for the
answers. And I think that if that is the case, if that is
negligence or if that is intentional or if that is both. Those groups of
people talk about a conspiracy theory. They're going to spread disinformation about anything and
everything else except anything to do with what they're guilty of. They're going to
spread the laser stories and the space based weapons plot. Does that make sense?
That's that's kind of what I think. Absolutely, that's what I feel
is going on, and that's what you see going on in the UFO community
as well. But it wasn't just the cropping of pictures. There's like,
straight up, here's one right here of pictures being literally this is their original
photograph, right, Okay, then I'm going to take this off. And
then here is the photograph of the supposed directed energy weapon, which is the
exact same photo. Oh, I haven't seen this one. Wow. So
they just they hit the roof right there with the laser, but all they
did was cropped the photo and then mirror so they turned the photo around to
the opposite side and then photo shopping a laser coming down from space. Hey,
at least whoever did this one, at least they used an image from
Hawaii, because I've seen plenty that are like meteor strikes in Europe. I've
seen ones that aren't They're not even on the same side of the planet.
They're using stuff from other countries. It's ridiculous. At least they used Hawaii
for that, but I haven't seen that one that's so ridiculously obvious it's embarrassing.
Yeah, and then there's all kinds of there's all kinds of stuff that's
popped up over this whole thing. There's other videos that are resurfacing, and
there's just one video that I've seen of do you remember the video where let
me see if I can find it. I think it was a Prince Harry
or and his wife, Prince Henry Harry or whatever. I can't keep track
of the royal family, but where she's looking like super robotic and she's like
waving her hand or whatever, and she looks like a robot. She her
eyes doesn't move, her face doesn't move, she just kind of like goes
like this. It came out like three or four years ago. I vaguely
remember that, but it's kind of ringing a bell. Well. That was
a video that was done for the season finale of Britain's Got Talent. Also
it was it was for a TV show. It was for a TV show,
and they didn't tell whenever it was released in the United States. It
was circulated around the community back three or four years ago, and they didn't
say that it was for a TV show, and then everyone thought that there
were legit robots, which they were robots, but it was for Britain's Got
Talent. All right, that's how easy home. Let me see if I
can find it here. I just saw it earlier because it's really well,
it's really alarming, and that's the way that things are done in this community.
That's how easy it is to full and trick people people that want to
believe, right, and then that spawned the whole you know, robot thing,
and then that also ties into the whole lady on the plane saying this
that person back there isn't real, you know what I mean. It's like,
yeah, it just keeps playing off of each other. Yeah, you
know. And one thing that really got me is I grew up in Florida.
I'm originally a Florida man, and I went through as a as a
kid and as a young adult, I went through a lot of hurricanes and
it was just normal. You live in Florida, you go. You know,
we experienced hurricanes. And I mean, if anybody's ever looked at a
map, look at the two recent hurricanes that were near Florida, the one
that hit Florida and devastated some of the communities there. I mean, it's
it's big. It's massive. You know. It's like even a category two
or a Category three can be hundreds of miles across. So what's that.
I heard this talking point on a couple of like random videos people sent me,
and then I started having friends call me and they're like, did you
hear that the that there were strange winds in Hawaii? And I said,
strange winds? What do you mean strange winds? And they said, well,
the hurricane was hundreds of miles off shore, and yet they said the
winds were driving the fire. And I said, yeah, but the hurricane
is hundreds of miles. I don't know how big the one was over Hawaii,
but there was hundreds of miles across. They measure the distance from like
let's say the coastline wherever you are, to the eye of the storm.
You can get bands of rain hundreds of miles from the some of the eye
of the storm, but the alternative independent TikTok community talking point rider was how
could a storm one hundred so miles away be causing winds in Hawaii when it
was that far away. It's like, the storm isn't a single dot,
it's gigantic. So it's just like something so basic like that. And I
had, I swear to god, I had like three personal close friends of
mine who normally are pretty rational, and they called me and they're like,
they're like, Ryan, this is really weird. There's a it looks like
the hurricanes three hundred miles off shore, but it's causing winds on the islands.
How is that possible? This is so weird. There's definitely a conspiracy
here. I'm like, no, it's not a conspiracy. There's they're they're
called they're bands of rain and storms. It's like it's it's normal. It's
so ridiculous, it's so obvious. It's so ridiculous. All Right, I
found the video here. This is Yeah? Is this the is this the
this is the TV show for a Britain's Guard talent. Yeah, she doesn't
show like a robot. Well, of course people were spreading this around and
they're still spreading it around today even though it's fake. It's for a TV
show. That's what they want you to think. Rider they want you to
think it's for a TV show. Ridiculous, dude. Oh yeah, it's
it's it's it's everywhere. I mean, that is so ridiculously obviously fake.
Yeah, well that's I'll go back ahead. Yeah, but I mean that's
that's the way that it works, right, Like if the context was given
that them here was for this was for a TV show for Britain's Got Talent,
and then people would realize that it was fake, right, But they
didn't put that in the give any context to what we're seeing here. What
what can people do with that? They can make? They can make gigg
it clicks and clout and cash, that's what I call it, clicks,
clout and cash by sharing this garbage online. That's exactly right. But I
did find something interesting though that I want to share with you, and I
have something else for you too. I wanted to share it. Okay,
cool, because we got we got some more time here. But speaking of
the do the Do stuff, we're onto the does here, which is Operation
do Oh Wikipedia, Wikipedia, It's Wikipedia, dude, Operation do okay so.
Operation DO refers to two separate field trials conducted by the United States in
the nineteen fifties. The tests were designed to study the behavior of aerosol released
biological agents right. The general description is of Operation DO took place in nineteen
fifty one to nineteen fifty two off the south east coast of the United States,
including near Georgia, North and South Carolina. Operation DO consists of two
sets of trials, DO one and DO two. Do DOO do do.
The test involved the release of two hundred and fifty pounds of fluorescent particles from
a minesweeper off of the coast. Operation DO was described by the US Army
as a part of the Dugwaye Special Report one oh six two dated August first,
nineteen fifty two. The purpose of Operation DO was the study the behavior
of aerosol related biological agents right got DO one and DO two Here. DO
two involved the release of fluorescent particles zinc, cademium sulfate, and plant spores
from the aircraft. DO two was described in a nineteen fifty three Army report,
which remained classified at the time of nineteen ninety seven. Report by the
United States National Research Council concerning the US Armies zinc cadium cadimium sulfate dispersion program
in the nineteen fifties. Hey, there's a real operation, dude, there's
a real Operation DO out there, Operation DO, Project Popeye, Project Storm
theory. That's the thing that gets me. It's like, there's a lot
of really credible stuff that can actually be I mean, you can pull records
on Operation Popeye and Storm theory. You can go and No's website and pull
it. They got hurricane modification programs. That's a lot of it's theoretical,
but some things have been tested. Sulfur to block out sunlight, reflective particles
in the sky, Building giant. Back in nineteen eighty nine, some guy
who suggested building some kind of giant basically like a sale to put up in
front of the Earth to block sold to radiation to cool the planet off.
All kinds of proposals, all kinds of projects, all kinds of operations.
Some things actually been tested, like tsunami bombs and snow bombs and all kinds
of stuff. But in order for the whole do subject to have any credibility,
I think you need to find proof, and proof for me, doesn't
include a five six dollars twelve pack of Mountain Dew at Dollar General. You
know that doesn't count for me. You know, well, you don't believe
in the mountain do time clock? Bro? You know? And I got
That's the thing that gets me is I had I saw, I've seen the
Maui Burst. Is that Mauie Burst? Is that the flavor? Yeah,
the Mauie Burst. And someone said, look at what they're just programming us
with this year, and I said, well, not this year. That
is a drink that Dollar General has had for about five years and as of
about three years ago it became their official drink, so it's been around for
a long time. It's not new. And they said, well, that's
the predictive programming. I said, oh, so they Dollar General released a
Mountain Dew flavor to program the public that there would be a fire in Hawaii
six to seven years after its release. Where are you coming up with this
stuff? Right? And then you want to hear a really good conspiracy theory,
writer, is that after that fire, there was a shooting in jackson
Ville at a Dollar General. So you know, the connections are just unbelievable.
It's just it's crazy what kind of things that were uncovering here. But
also we were trying to break into the Dollar General to find out about the
dues, about the dudes do That's that's home hub of the Maui burst right
there in Jacksonville. They got the dues downpad which I made a meme today
which I think is genius that I want to show to everybody here. Uh,
it's the due Monster. Well, you know, the boom Do monster.
That's where all the world's right there. That's a War of the dou
Monster. This is this is a picture from a live video cast of what
happened in Hawaii. I understand, Yeah, this was this was seen.
Yeah, this was seen off of the coast of Hawaii thrashing about. And
sheers, yeah. Well so there's a couple others, a couple others.
That's great. There's a couple others like this too. The I'm I'm from
Florida, like I said, and I shopped at Public's when I lived there
a lot. And I remember this sangria. I sent you a picture of
the sangria or that sangria, So I remember this. I don't drink alcohol,
but I remember at one point another seeing it on a shelf for walking
by it. It was called Class five sangria and it has like a it's
a big Category five hurricane on it. It's an alcoholic dry I think it's
like a mix sangria mix. And now that's being shared online by people that
are saying this is proof that the most recent hurricanes to forum near Florida were
geoengineered or controlled by some kind of weather weapons. And it's like that beverage
has been I did two seconds of research that beverage has been around. It's
like two thousand and two or three or four. I saw it when I
was a kid. So Public's released a sangria. It's not even their sangria,
it's this this company they sell eighteen years ago to program the public to
prepare for a specific hurricane that happens in twenty twenty three, Like, where
where are people getting this stuff? And I saw another one was it was
a kombucha. I don't think I saw sent you this one a kombucha called
controlled Burn Controlled Burn kombucha. So you know there's more proof of directed energy
weapons that kombucha. Well, then you got the Mountain Dew Rito's as well,
yeah, you know points to Arizona. Then that also points to Florida.
You know, before we get any further in here, because I've seen
people posting in the chat the Simpson's predicted the directed energy weapon that there was
a well, which is really strange because it seems like every single event that
happens, the Simpsons are already done it, which I don't know if that's
just I would have to go back and I actually watch these episodes of The
Simpsons to verify if the stuff is really because it seems like it's almost like
a thing. There's like it's just become like a joke now, right that
whatever it happens in our reality, Yeah, the Simpsons also did it.
But how many The thing is, how many years have The Simpsons been on
air? I mean, how many episodes have they done? Like eventually it's
going to overlap with reality. You know, they're going to get something right,
joking about something, and people are gonna, oh, it's prediction of
the future. I mean, but I but I get it. There are
some weird things, yeah, and the Simpsons that I mean, the people
say the one where Bart was holding up the nine to eleven on the magazine,
or the Donald Trump coming down the stairs, or there's the I just
played one on my show recently, where what's his name that has owns the
power company. He wants to block out the sun, which is something the
White House has recently proposed. And you know the one they're talking about the
cat flu and everybody's home. You know, everybody's got the cat flu and
people their homer puts the cat in a bag and seals it so you know,
the cat flu doesn't spread. But like that, those kinds of things
could apply to a lot, Like where was the inspiration originally for that?
I think these people think like some secret agents go to the Simpsons writers with
a with a sealed container and then they opened it in the writer's room,
like this is what the CI wants us to write about this week. I
don't think it goes that down that way. Yeah, I don't know.
What do you think? What do you think? I think it's really I
think it's strange, and I think that it's something that has just been It
seems like a parody of itself almost, you know, like something happens,
it's like someone's showing something from the Simpsons of like when it happens. And
there's a few people in here this commenting about the blue stuff that wasn't burned
in Hawaii. What's your thoughts and your ideas surrounding this? Uh, the
dudes don't burn the blue one context? Okay, So there's a lot of
pictures and videos, and some of them I've seen or not from Hawaii,
so those obviously don't count. But if you, I guess, we take
all the evidence pictures and videos of the things that are blue that don't burn.
I have a couple of issues with that number one again context number two,
some blue umbrellas or some blue roofs, or some blue this or that.
I have to imagine that somewhere, somewhere inside of the homes, somewhere
inside of the businesses, there were other blue things. Why are the Why
are the rebel piles not filled with blue things that didn't burn? That's my
second thing. My third thing is I don't know how fires work. I'm
not a fire expert. However, I grew up around tornadoes and hurricanes,
and I can tell you that I'd never had the displeasure or the the unfortunate
reality of having to deal with a tornado that hit my house. But I've
seen neighborhoods that are decimated by tornadoes. You see videos of this where tornado
comes down, blows two houses away, and then it doesn't even break the
window of the house right next door, and then it goes up and goes
down, and the stories and other two houses. We can't explain how that
happens. I don't know. But it doesn't mean it's directed energy weapons because
we can't explain how fire burns, or we can't explain how tornadoes destroy one
house and not another. And again back to point number two, if blue
things weren't burned, which yes, lasers can. I've seen the thing,
the videos and read some of the research about this. There are some lasers
that can burn through certain colors and not other colors. That's a real thing.
But you need more than just some blue umbrellas if you want to prove
that point. And you also need to answer the question how come other blue
things did burn? And you need to answer the question if you're talking about
celebrity and you have this meme celebrity houses being painted, the roofs painted blue.
You got the Blue Man group going around helping people out. I started
dot Ryan I started a Blue Man group. Met you got a blue shirt
on right now too. It looks like you're in the Blue Man group there.
I am saved the blue the blue stuff. Really it gets me because
I had I had somebody on Facebook who I didn't know who they were.
They were a friend on Facebook, and they were friends with some other people
I know in radio, and they had posted a picture of Oprah Winfrey,
some meme of Oprah Winfrey. And I said, you know, Oprah's house
wasn't near the fire, and they said, shut up, you're stupid,
and they didn't even spell your right right. I sent that to you,
and I said, okay, well that's an emotional outburst. Okay, objectively
speaking, her house wasn't. It was like forty five minutes in southeast of
Lahinah. Oh but Jeff Bezos and Obama's house they got spared. No,
they didn't get spared because Obama's house is on Oahu. It's on on Maui,
and Jeff Bezo's house is so far south on Maui that it might as
well be on the next island. It's closer to that next island than it
is to Lahinah. So the celebrities houses didn't get spared, and that that's
an objective fact that you can prove, and people don't care. Same thing
with the Falcon X rocket launch. It's an objective fact. That's a photograph.
That's a photograph. It's been tampered with, edited filters put on it,
cropped. People don't care because the algorithm tells him to believe something else.
So in terms of the blue those were my perspectives. In terms of
the celebrity houses, they're nowhere near the fire. They have no reason to
paint the roofs blue because the fires didn't burn in the places where Obama had
his outlet. Mean, hey, Alex Jones has a house in Hawaii.
Was he also part of the plan to burn the state? Like, it
doesn't make any sense. Mark Zuckerberg has a house. Was his house spared?
They're not on the same island, I don't think, so it just
doesn't make any sense to me. Fireflies has got a great idea. They
say, let's all don't mean blue T shirts. That is funny. I
like that. It's a great idea of fireflies. Might take that from him,
but yeah, yeah, there's it's weird, even if it was a
let's just play Devil's advocate here. Sure, sure, sure, let's just
say that it was a do that started the fires, right, that's just
what started it. But does it that the fires would burn everything else?
How would something blue protect you from other things being on fire? Exactly?
Yes, that's a great point. Even if the dude don't burn blue things,
how come the thing beside of it that caught on fire didn't also burn
everything else? Right? Fire spreads, so a fire would go everywhere.
So the whole blue thing doesn't make any sense at all. I think I
mentioned that on the one show I did. I've done two of these Hawaii
Maui shows. I think I mentioned on the show I did last Monday.
Yeah, like, if a laser or whatever they call it started the fire,
which that technology does exist, But if that started the fire, how
come yes, O, other things didn't burn it. Just it's like it's
like mashing together multiple conspiracy theories or multiple conspiracy and ideas and technologies into one
and then thinking that you figured it out and then setting back and feeling morally
superior because you don't believe in climate change or you don't believe which I don't
either. Necessarily. But I'm saying that you create your own narrative, your
own mythology, and then that becomes the belief system, and then you exist
within this tiny little echo chamber you've created, and you find other people who
also resonate within the echo chamber, and then you have your community. And
I think it's a gd delusional. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.
Even if the lasers can't penetrate blue objects, that can penetrate everything else around
it, and then everything else would burn. Nobody had like a nice blue
dress or some blue jeans, or a blue pen or anything in their house
and all those blue things burn. Why why aren't there like piles of blue
jeans in the rubble that didn't burn. I'm being facetious, but I'm also
being serious, Like why did some blue things burn and not other blue things?
You know, I don't think blue things are fire resistant, right,
I don't think so. I mean I might be wrong about that. I
have to check that you did Wilcock channel, But archangel Michael channel me and
told me that blue things don't burn. Yeah, blue things don't burn,
right after he told me to bathe in m P. That's true story.
That's true story. He did tell him that Blue Ray Bluetooth. Yeah that's
interesting. Yeah, yeah, Blue Ray Bluetooth. Apparently bluetooth headsets didn't burn
either. They found those in the rubble. That There's another thing too,
it's like they there. I don't know how true this is, but there
are definitely some people that lived down there that tried to get back into,
you know, the rubble of their home and they've been arrested. I'm sure
there's plenty of reasons, but they basically initially they supposedly walled off a lot
of la highness so people couldn't get in. This is exactly what happened on
nine to eleven. They walled off ground zero and they got rid of the
material really fast. That's what they did in the lahine A walded off and
they're just getting rid of the material really fast. Like that's suspicious. If
we're going to argue about something, we should be arguing about the like with
the sirens or the police chief and the blocking of the road. Those things
should take precedent over what started the fire. And here we go. Here's
a pawno. He says he he's on Maui and he's seen how the things
played out and don't and I even know some of the main characters that made
the wrong choice and more for their master's search. Hey, tell us more
about that. I'm sorry if I called you a man, a man or
he or I don't know. I'm not sure if you're a woman or a
man. But tell us more about what's going on there and I'll bring up
the comments. So one other thing, real quick, I wanted to I
thought you'd find this funny. I pointed out to people too just and trying
to be objective about fires. There are thirty three thousand and seven hundred fires
cataloged in the United States as of the weekend of the fire in Maui.
Thirty three thousand seven are just in the United States. That's at a ten
year low, and around the world we also have tens of thousands of fires.
These aren't normal. These aren't Some of them are not natural, but
a lot of them are natural. Fires are good for forests. A lot
of the problem is we build homes in places where hurricanes hit and where fires
burned, so then our homes get destroyed and we blame it on some kind
of climate change or energy weapons, when it's really just we're not taking care
of the forest, or we don't recognize that. Hey, we built our
house in the ocean, so there's water in the living room because we live
in the ocean. You know, people that live on these little artificial fingers
of Saint Pete Beach where I'm from. Oh my god, why did it
flood? Because you live below sea level in the ocean, That's why it
flooded. It's it's not because of energy weapons. So I looked up all
those fires and I thought, okay, so I want this is important information
for context. And I've had will tell me, Well, Ryan, you
know there's thirty f seven hundred fires. Those were all tests for the directed
energy weapons. And I'm at the point now where you are. I just
I don't know how to respond to that. All wildfires are just laser weapons
tests, now, all of them. You know, nature doesn't nature anymore,
Ryan, No, she doesn't. Nature just doesn't do nature. No,
it's always some other thing going on. It's always extraterrestrials, aliens,
dues, it's the government, it's a deep state. That's I think that
that's the most annoying thing about the community at the moment. And again,
it's not my audience that I'm saying this too, seeing that the community as
a whole is that things just don't happen anymore. There's always some kind of
someone's always has an explanation for anything bad that ha, well what about what
about those? Okay, so we should probably address two very quickly, the
fifteen minute city smart city things that people kept bringing up, Right, So
I did like literally eight seconds of research. Literally, it was like eight
seconds. I just typed in Mauie smart city, you know, conference,
it pops up and I see Mauie, and then I also see New York
and a bunch of other places. And I posted this on my Facebook page.
New York is holding the same Digital Government summit that Mauie was supposed to
hold. I don't know if they're still going to hold it. And I
asked people, does that mean New York is about to be dude, because
they're holding a digital government summit. I mean places like Glass Coast, Scotland
already is it's already a smart city. They didn't burn it down. There
are plenty of places all over the world that have already turned into smart cities.
They didn't burn them down. There are plenty of places where people are
voting. Here in Tucson, Arizona, people just voted down. I think
is a positive thing. But they voted down to turn this into a fifteen
minute city. Does that mean we're going to be hit with a directed energy
weapon? I had someone tell me that about Phoenix, Arizona, and I
said, what proof do you have of that? They said, well,
they're installing tollbooths on the road. And I said, what does it tollbooth
have to do with anything? And they said, because they want to control
where you're driving. I said, but but it's not controlling where you're driving.
They're just making you pay to drive on other roads they've built. What
does it have to do with directed energy weapons? And then apparently I'm a
fed and I'm covering the truth up. It's just like there are plenty of
places that are Portland, smart City, Seattle, like there's all kinds of
these things happening all over the world. Just because there's one thing happening in
Maui when the fires happened, doesn't mean that it is not a correlation.
That's a fallacy, that is wrong, and we need to stop believing that
stuff because it takes away again from the real substance of all of the other
inconsistencies that we've thus far discussed. Tonight, Yeah, no, well truth
brings up something really interesting too, is the ritual aspect around all of this
stuff. You know, that's another thing that people claim with any of these
disasters or a celebrity death like you're seeing, is a ritual, you know,
it's it's a ritual to the amand Ra, the sun god. Right,
if it burns and they die in a burning death, it's a ritual
to the aman raw you know, which. I think there are some strange
dust that seem really symbolic, but all of them, I don't know.
I think people just regularly die, right, Yeah, yeah, I agree.
I Mean the funniest thing you bring that up, or the listener there
brings that up, is because tonight on The Secret Teachings, the show goes
on at ten pm Pacific at ground zero Dot Radio, I'm doing a show
called Burned Out Man, Burn the Man, Save the Witch, and it's
a it's it's I don't My point on the show is I don't have the
answers. I don't know, but it's kind of interesting, like Jimmy Buffett
died Fry. Saturday, the day of Saturn, you have this inundation of
Burning Man. Sunday, the day of the Sun, you have this Electric
Zoo festival that turns into chaos in New York City. And then Monday you
have the death of the smash Mouth singer. So you have these two festivals
that erupt into chaos, same which by these two celebrity deaths. And then
you also had Travis Scott on Friday, who was, you know, the
guy that was on the stage at the last big festival disastered Astro World.
He just announced that this weekend, the same time as this other stuff was
going on, that he's going to come back with He's got a new tour
called Utopia and it's going to open up the New world. That's that's how
they're promoting it. So like all those things are interesting, but like I
propose to my audience, a lot of it is just the algorithmic cycle of
the news. One celebrity dies, another celebrity dies. Suddenly, it's a
pattern. Suddenly, that's where the algorithm goes. That's where the news takes
you. People don't give a damn about somebody that gets trampled at a festival
or gets you know, they get mudded in at a festival. No one
who cares because the news told you to care. So because people are told
to care about Burning Man, suddenly this other festival makes the news, and
then those things go away, and we'll have another news cycle with other things
we're told to care about. There's different there's different angles and ways to look
at this. There is something weird about last weekend, but also a lot
of it is just the algorithmics. I call it the algorithmic cycle of the
news. Plus I want to add one other thing very quickly. The middle
of Burning Man is also it's August thirty first, and that's actually a ritual,
an actual holiday or holy day to the goddess Hecate we were talking about
earlier, and it's the inversion of the IDEs of August March thirteen March August
thirteenth, which is a festival for the goddess Diana. And during that festival
it's called the Festival of Torches, and they have it on a lake and
the rock or the symbol interestingly enough of Diana and Hecate is the black rock.
So where did they have burning Man Black Rock Desert they had it.
It's a dried up lake bed and it's also burning Man, so like Festival
of Torches. So like there's those interesting correlations to these ancient Roman festivals or
ancient this or that festivals and mythologies, and that's what I do for my
show. I do that a lot. But I also tell people it doesn't
necessarily mean anything. A lot of times. It's just how things unfold.
It's not a conspiracy, but it is interesting. Yeah, Jesse James brought
up apparently Dumatria blue equals forties sorin equals forty, pain equals forty. Jermatria
is really interesting. There's really you can kind of make anything that you want
to make out of Germania. And there's different There's Hebrew Gometria, there's Greek
Gamatria, there's English Gamatria. Marty Leads. I don't know if you ever
talked to Marty Leads, but he has his own the Septonary Cipher. It's
all kinds of different. Like in one form of Gamatria, you know,
the name Jesus might mean one thing. In another form it means something different,
like the numerical value. So you can Yeah, derive whatever you want.
I think it's interesting and important. You can derive whatever you want from
it. Because if the Greek isn't working out, you can just go to
the Hebrew. If that ain't working out, just go to the English.
Just until you can get that six six six, Yeah, the six are
the eleven. Yeah. Anyone dying before their time in Hollywood is suspicious to
me. They have the best medicine, holiestake or shaman, et cetera.
Look at Magic Johnson or Stephen Hawkins when they went to them. Want them
to live, they do well. A lot of these people die from overdoses,
from drug overdoses because they're overly medicated. It's what Prince died of.
It's what Michael Jackson died of. That's what a lot of celebrities inevitably die
of, or drug overdoses, I mean ain't overprescribed. That's another one of
those things. Things like how many people living outside of the County of Los
Angeles also died this weekend? Just some you know, some old lady or
some old guy, or you know, maybe some some young kid overdosed on
pills. Like their deaths don't matter, but because they happen within La County,
you know, symbolically, because Jimmy Buffett dies or because someone else did,
then suddenly it's a conspiracy. It's like, how many other people died
today? Seventeen hundred people died today from preventable heart disease according to the CDC.
Is that all ritual? No, But if Jimmyuffett dies, it's a
ritual. That's the weird thing to me. Writer, It is people.
They're like in the Pick and Choose. Jesse James says jamatria is the only
way to figure out the real truth of words in mathematics. Behind I mean,
I agree, uh, jamatria is very interesting. But I think the
problem with jamatria is nobody knows what it means. And you can come up
with all the correlating numbers and uh and stuff, but no one can seem
to really know what any of that means. And it can you know,
because there's different kinds. And I agree too, I think it's important,
it's significant, it has value, but to what extent because and I actually
wrote a whole book. I have a whole book called a cult Arcana.
It's about I don't know that thick it's an enormous, six hundred plus page
book, and I talk about cometary in the book. And it's like,
if you're talking about magic, if you talk about rituals, if you're talking
about you know, numerology, you've talk about symbolism, mythology, things like
that. A lot of it also boils down to the practitioner, Like if
I wanted to create some kind of personally, if I wanted to create some
kind of sigil, or if I like, look at my T shirt here,
I have a tree of life with a ladder with seven rungs, and
I have a serpent on the tree. It says tst the Secret Teachings,
and it's all kinds of symbols in the tree. Like people could look at
this shirt and they could look at the symbols and then try to, you
know, Internet sleuth what they think I believe because of the symbols on my
shirt. You're a Freemason ran Yeah, actually a Freemason Illuminati. You know,
Dorito eating mountain dew drinker. So but to me this, my intention
is to just present you know, interesting things or images to really get people
thinking. So if your intention with Gamatria was to have have a word equal,
you know, five hundred for whatever reason, in another form of gametrias,
someone could find it to mean six six six, and then suddenly your
intention to have it mean one thing is overshadowed because some Internet sleuth thinks it
means something else, Like intention matters, and you know that is an important
piece of context when we're talking about more occult themed things, if if that
makes sense, Yes, sir, I've been looking into Lena Brobloski and Igar
Casey a lot on my on my show for studying these UFO calls, because
it seems like a lot of these cults derive from agar Casey's work, some
of the later cults, and uh directly from Elena Bravlowsky as well. Have
you looked into uh, Igar Casey and Elena Bravloski. I mean, I'm
sure you have, because of your show and the books that you've written.
What do you think of We'll start with Agar Casey. We've got a few
more minutes here. What do you think of agar Casey personally? My opinion
is I've not read a lot of Edgar Casey. I'm open to what he
wrote and what he talked about. I think that what we know and collectively,
you know, in pop culture, think of Edgar Casey is more so
what people have created for him as an image or so than what he actually
wrote or said. Same thing with Nicola Tesla. People are like, oh,
Nicola Tesla was a talking aliens. That's what his friends said. It's
like, no, if you read what he actually wrote. His friend at
worked in newspaper said it was like like he was talking to aliens because he
was so advanced in terms of what he was developing in the Rising about like
is different than was big difference as the same thing with Edgar Casey. That's
what I would logically conclude, having not read a lot of Edgar Casey.
In terms of Lavotsky, I have her books. They're very advanced for occult
students. I wouldn't recommend just grabbing those if you want to start reading about
the occult or whatever. There's absolutely very credible, interesting, powerful information in
them. But like a lot of occult studies, whether you're reading Lee Levi
or Levi Elephus Levi, Levi Levy, if you're reading The Magus by Francis
Barrett, if you don't understand the subtleties or the symbolism of or the you
know, the metaphors that a lot of these authors write in. You'll take
things to be literal that aren't literal. And the best example of this is
there's a lot of books where authors, older authors give these examples of how
to perform certain rituals, and they'll say things like you have to get a
virgin kid, and you have to sacrifice the virgin kid, and people,
oh my god, it's human sacrifice. Look, oh my god. Qann's
in these these grimois. It's like, no kid, kid meant baby goat.
So you would not saying that's good. I'm not saying I'm going to
sacrifice a baby goat, but I'm saying that kid, a virgin kid means
an innocent, pure, baby, youthful goat. It doesn't mean a child
who's been kidnapped by the Illuminati or something. And it's the same thing with
like when they say you have to like if you read Revelation. Here's another
great examp of read Revelation. The red dragon gives the beast his power.
Okay, well, speaking in terms of psychology and the body and human development
and introspection, the red dragon is your ego, the beast is the animal
self, and in order to achieve some form of enlightenment or you know,
in order to become more consciously aware and connects to source, you have to
slay the red dragon and collect the treasure of wisdom the dragon always guards,
and then that helps you to overcome the animal self, which is like the
Lion and the Wizard of Oz by Frank Baum. And then you know,
you begin to understand things on another level because you've abandoned the ego and you've
collected the gold of wisdom or the wisdom of gold, or the alchemical stone
of the of the alchemists. So those are things that like you have to
understand when you read the Bolvotsky, She's not writing in a way that's like
intending to be easy to understand. So there's a tremendous amount of symbolism and
metaphor. And in order to even kind of process that, especially for her
work, to answer your question, you really have to be well versed on
a lot of other much more basic occult themes. So, I mean,
if you're interested in that kind of thing, I think there's definitely value there.
You probably want to read The Secret Teachings of all Ages by Manly Hall,
or read his how to Understand Your Bible book even if you're not a
Christian, or read you know, the History of mad by Elphas LEVI a
lot of stuff, and there's kind of garbage, but a lot of stuff
and there's good. Uh. You know, there's all sorts of easier books
if you want to dive into that. But to answer your question, in
terms of Blovotsky, it's a lot of metaphor and a lot of symbolism more
so than it is literality. Do you think that she was a legit?
Though I would counter and ask you, but what do you mean by legit?
Like the things that she experienced, the the channeling that she would claim
to do, do you think that was legit. I'm always skeptical of channeling.
I'm always skept I don't really as a rule of thumb, I just
don't trust channelers. I don't care if it's Blovotsky, I don't care if
it's somebody at a conference. But that also doesn't mean that there can't be
value in the things that those people right, Because I mean, I can
tell you Blovotsky's work is a lot more legitimate than Ishmael Perez or David Bilcock,
you know. So, But that doesn't that doesn't also mean that everything
she wrote with if she's a human being, she made mistakes. She probably
was driven a little by her ego, and you know, she might have
inflated things that she believed. And but then again, I know I can
also add to this, like I don't I don't ever talk about this,
but I've had since I was younger, I've had experiences where I've seen things
that otherwise, you know, aren't necessarily there. Even more recently, I've
heard things that aren't necessarily being heard by other people. I'm not delusional or
crazy. I don't know what those things were. It could have been anything.
I mean, there's technology today to literally beam signals for advertisements and people's
heads from billboards from fifty feet one hundred feet two hundre feet away. Yeah,
it could be technology. It could be my subconscious it could be a
little angel and demon, it could be something else. It could be something
supernatural. I mean, obviously, if I can't explain it in the physical
world, it is supernatural. So like I've had experiences, and if I
if I wrote a book about my experiences, I would probably sound pretty way
I could do so. So a lot of it is how you word it,
too, And a lot of people don't care how they word it.
They just like because because the words that sell are channeling and God and lioness,
priestess, warrior, princess. Aucturian plodians say the particuli garc omega,
alpha, epsilon fleet you know that kind of crap. No, I'm right
there with you. I've had some really extrage experiences growing up and throughout my
teenage years, and some experiences into my adult years. But I don't pretend
to know what those things were. I don't pretend to know, and honestly
I don't care. I don't care. I don't care to know what they
were. I think things like that, we're not meant to know what it
is. We're not supposed to know, you know. But there's so many
people that want to know so badly that they're willing to listen to anybody that's
going to tell them about it. Right, They're going to go to an
internet psychic that says that they can channel their higher self and tell them exactly
what they experienced. No, you can't, you know, I guarantee you,
Ryan, if you went to one of these Internet psychics or one of
these Internet channel or people and told them about your experience, they would say,
Oh, you were abducted by the gray aliens from Rosida Riticuli, and
you were taking on aboard the ship and you were experimented on and they jerked
you off with a with a machine and got your seamen and all this stuff,
and they interjected the thoughts and ideas and your mind screen memories into your
mind and you got all this missing time and you need to be regressed.
Sounds like every every alien story I've ever heard, But that's the first thing
that they jumped to, Right, they dumped the extraterrestrials, especially people that
want to get regressed in this community. Right if they even have any kind
of inkling that something weird happened to them one night or they had a weird
dream, right that it was automatically aliens, And if they go to a
regressionist, it's a part of this community. I guarantee you every time they
will find aliens and actually trusts. Yeah yeah, yeah, Well, I
mean it's like it's like the idea of the psychic who's like all right,
So I'm getting that you have a mother and a father. Is that true?
I do have a mom and a dad, right, that kind of
thing. Yeah, the cold reading and the cold reading from psychics. But
hey, you know what, I've met what I considered to be two in
my entire life. And that's not a lot because I've done this a long
time, thirteen years. But I've met two people I believe to be legitimate
psychics. How I define psychic might be different than some of your listeners,
but I know people that two people I've met, one of them is a
friend of mine, who I think are legitimate psychics. And the difference it's
the same for both of them, and they're from different parts of the country.
Saying that's the same thing that they share in common is they don't really
sell themselves and they don't just take any client, and they don't a lot
of times they help people for free, and they back out of readings because
they're just too energetically drained. And again, they don't like sell themselves.
So like, that's usually the difference between a legitimate psyche and someone who's like
every can find aliens and everything. I'm getting that you have an epidermis.
Is that true? You know? Do you do? You have lungs?
I'm getting you know that kind of thing. There's a huge difference. I'm
sensing that you have two extraterrestrial guides. One lives on a Drameda planet seven,
another in the Palladian star system planet nine, and they're here to help
save you and send you into the fifth dimension, the next evolutionary level above
human in heaven. Just sit and meditate for twenty hours a day. Don't
do anything to better your life. Just sit back and enjoy the show.
Just change your thought process. No action is required. Just sit and think
yourself into good situations. And why you're sitting there thinking? Go to cash
app, Venmo, PayPal and it's gonna be three hundred dollars you know that.
Yeah, gotta payout for those small Listen. I saw some, buddy,
real quick. I saw some. I went to the five D Conference.
Do you know what the five D Conference is? Oh? Yeah?
So, first of all, the guy that runs that is a class a
piece of trash. Firsthand experiences, he's disgusting and gross, always filling up
on all the hot women. But then when the older women come in,
it's no more love and light. You don't want to hug the older women,
you know, just the young women. Let me give you some love
in some light. That's how this guy is. But I saw this woman,
one of these psychics at this conference, and I am not I have
a video of it. I don't know where it's that. I have to
find it in my hard drive, but I have a video. This woman
was giving people psychic readings. Okay, writer, And I look over and
here's how this is no joke, because how the psychic reading went. She
sits in a chair, a chair right here. You sit in a chair
right here. She then takes her foot and she massages with her foot your
private parts and then says, can you feel the energy? Can you feel
the energy? And then proceeds to give you that random you know, do
you have a mother father thing? And I saw the same thing that a
woman doing it. I see a guy, I can I can feel it.
I can feel it. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, the energy is
really building. And then I saw a guy do that at contact one time.
He's like, I swear to God, du he's got There's a woman
on the table and conventionally she's she's pretty attractive a young, young lady and
this guy's like creepy and old and he's just like he's like basically grabbing her
breasts and he's like, so do you feel the energy? People on video
can see it's like, can you feel can you feel that in the hands,
between the legs, can you feel me move the energy between your and
I'm like, I felt like I'm being sexually assaulted. I'm not even on
the table. It's just it's so ridiculously just discuss. By the way,
I got banned from ETTI because I pointed some of that stuff out. But
that's another story. Yeah, I know a little bit about that. But
that's something that Press and Nichols would do as well. He would jerk people
off, like the Mont Talk Mont Talk boys to get their memories back.
That's literally what he would do. Bro. I know, he would take
them into a room and jerk them off so that they can receive their memories.
So it's literally a circle jerk of it's a con and that's why they
name all these conferences. That's why they're like alien con, UFO con.
At least that part's not consumer fraud. At least that parts off. That's
that part's honesty, because James, James Gillen has a secret room upstairs on
top of one of the places where he takes the women to do vibration treatments.
And I don't want to know what those favorite vibration treatments and tail personally,
but I can only imagine, oh Man, vibrational treatments, not vibration
vibrator treatments. Vibrator treatments he's got. He's got magic wands up there and
all kinds of stuff. Well, Ryan, thanks so much for coming on,
brother. I really appreciate the conversation. I had a lot of fun
here tonight. I hope everyone else enjoyed it. Everyone in the child.
How's it going, Jenna Banana, Good to see you. Yeah. So
I'll let people know where they can find you got a show on tonight.
What time is that show? And where can they watch it and listen?
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