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and Off another Gervante Davis k Oh, this time of Ryan Garcia in their
huge pay per view showdown in Las Vegas. We are back with the Fight
Breach Unite recap podcast. Right here is part of the Big Fight Weekend podcast
feed. I am the Somewhat Bull host t J Reeves. He's the man
on scene Oel on location in Las Vegas, but not for much longer because
he's literally got a plane to catch while we tape this. On Sunday,
Dan Raphael was there in the Team Mobile arena for the body shot that ended
things on Saturday night. He's ready to talk all about it. Our insider
from his Fight for Each to Unite, Substack and Bigfight Weekend dot Com.
So much to get to. First of all, how are things? I
know, you've gotten some sleep, great work overnight, we've been publishing your
stuff on Big Fight Weekend dot Com. You've had some time to digest sometime,
to get a little rest. How are we doing on the on the
day after, I'm still starting to figure out why I woke up after like
three hours of sleep or no parent reason. I mean, I have a
flight to catch, but it's not till like one thirty Pacific time, so
I'll go to the airport early and meander around and you know, get lunch
and chill out. But I didn't need to be up this early. I
don't know why I am. And you know, the only thing worse than
being awake that early is being on the podcast with you this early. Oh,
listen to that. But still, nonetheless, it is all in all
seriousness. It was, you know, it was it was another another big
fight week, and it was They're all different, you know, you never
can, you know, sometimes you make we all make predictions, and that
doesn't necessarily go the way you thought. I mean, we'll talk about it,
obviously, but I think most people that thought that there would be a
knockout in this fight. Didn't necessarily see tanked by body shot. That's not
the biggest, uh you know, uh thing that would be on the top
of your mind when you're thinking about a Tank Davis knockout. You're thinking a
big head shot and uppercut, but not a rib shot. And uh,
you know with Ryan, you know the fact that he was even to me,
well again, we'll get all the details in. But he went down
twice. He went down on the body shot, which end of the fight,
but he also had gotten down early in the fight on a on a
clean shot, a left to the chin. That left to the chin would
have knocked a lot of guys out. He was able to get up from
the chin shot and and seemed okay. But the body shot that they're the
most you know, you asked any boxer I've talked. I don't take body
shots, but I've talked to any number of fighters over the years, and
to a man to a woman, probably they'll tell you that they'd rather get
there with a clean head shot than a clean body shot any day of the
week. Sure, all right, So we'll get into that for the end
of that fight. We'll go over the whole card, by the way,
a fantastic Cordina rock them off world title fight in Cardiff, Wales, and
we're not overselling tremendous fight that we're going to cover and talk about chronologically.
Next, a little bit of news and a little bit of nostalgia because a
heavyweight title upset happened over this weekend, back over twenty years ago, and
Dan's got great stories from that. We've told it before on the podcast.
We'll bring some of it back, but anyway, thank you for finding us
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recapping late Sunday into Monday. You're always going to get inside an analysis with
whatever's going on. Dan is plugged in more so probably than anybody in this
sport, and they're on location in Vegas, So make sure you're following or
subscribing. Okay, so you were there, let's begin. Let's just go
in order of this night and of this main event. Tell me about the
atmosphere because we got some feeling about it through the Showtime slashed his own pay
per view PPV dot com. But you were there and you took a cool
photo, by the way, and put it on social media about this was
right before the bell rang. But compare it at least recently. What was
the atmosphere like in the T Mobile arena as all of this built up,
they got in the ring and it began. As far as the photo that
you mentioned, TJ, I've started doing that at the fights I go to.
I never used to do it, and it's always ever since I was
a kid and I first started to watch boxing, I always found that the
greatest moments in sports it's not so much like when the guy scores the touchdown
or when there's a walk off home run. It's the anticipation of something that's
really exciting. And to me, there's never a better moment in sports anywhere,
I don't care what it is. Is when after a huge build up
to a humongous fight, you've been talking and talking and going through the week
of the fight and all the press conferences and the chatter and the appearances,
and there's nothing left to say and they've cleared, you know, they've done
the intros, and they've done the pageantry and the ring announcer and all that,
and they take the robes off and they start, you know, slowly,
and I get an interesting bird's eye view sometimes, you know, you
see this massive humanity suddenly clear, like a you know, like the parting
of the Red Sea, let's call it. And all the people get out
of the ring, the trainers, the coaches, the promoters, the hangers
on, the guy that holds your belt, the inspectors, all that,
and you look in there and there's two guys half naked, a referee holding
his arms at and the bells about to go, and the fucking crowd is
going absolutely bonkers. And it is the most it's it's intoxicating. I mean,
it's one of the things that makes me love what I do. It
is it is just an electrifying moment, and you want to have it every
single time you go to a big fight. And so when that moment comes
and there's just those three guys in the ring and you're ready to go,
and the flashbulbs are now, camera phone start going off, there's absolutely nothing
like it. And I took that picture from where we were sitting you know,
the media for this fight. We were not directly at ringside. We
were sort of in the back of the of the floor slightly raised up.
Not bad seats, obviously they're taking those pres seats and they're selling them for
like five grand. I can I can't really argue with that. In any
event, you would like to confirm, you would like to confirm you were
not paying five grand to be a media member and sit at ringside where you're
actually doing my job there. But no, but you got you got Tank
on one side and Ryan another side, and you got the referee Thomas Taylor,
who I thought did a hell of a job. It's a tremendous referee,
you know, holding them to go, and you know then he signals
to the timekeeper and they ring the bellot off we go. And I took
a similar picture that was to me anyway, I'm no photographer. I took
a picture like that on the night that Canelo Alvarez fought Billy Joe Saunders,
when I was there in Arlington, Texas at the eighteen T Stadium. And
you know, you see one of the I think it was one guy is
turned around like in a moment of prayer, and the other fighter is ready
to hold it on the ropes sorady to charge out, and the referees like
that. It's just a great moment. I mean, it is phenomenal.
And you know, every fight I go to now, if it's especially if
it's a big one like this, I will do that. But you ask
about the atmosphere. That moment is incredible no matter what. But I have
to say, and I don't want to like, I'm not like trying to
be Debbie Downer, Okay, And maybe it's I've had the great privilege to
cover so many megafights. I believe I'm not sure. Maybe I have to
figure this out. I believe that last night was the either the fourteenth or
the fifteenth boxing event to take place inside the Team Ombrina. I have covered
every single one of them, and so I have comparisons Mayweather fights and Canello
fights and you know, Tyson Fury fights to certainly when he thought Deante Wilder.
So the atmosphere was terrific, obviously, but it wasn't. I didn't
find it personally at that level. I think one of the reasons for it,
to be quite honest, is because both guys came to the ring with
kind of chill music, not like something that's going to get the Ryan came
into a I don't know what the song was or what it was, but
it felt like some kind of spiritual, like kind of a slower pace.
I don't know if it was a religious song or something. I mean of
respect that, you know, every boxer has to pick what's gonna make them
comfortable. But whatever Ryan selected was not the kind of thing that's gonna necessarily
get a you know, a crowd, a sold out crowd of nearly twenty
one thousand people jumping off their seats. And then I don't remember what tank
song. I think it was. It was a rap song of some type.
It wasn't so much like of a driving beat type of thing that would,
you know, sort of lend itself to getting your all geared up,
so that that was a little bit of a disappointment, honestly, but you
can complaint. I mean, even if it was the fifteenth out of fifteenth
best atmospheres at Team Overin, it's still a big fucking fight and you're excited
to be there. So and I also do one other thing before these big
fights happened. I always take a moment, no matter what, just to
take a deep breath and look around and at my hair, surroundings and sort
of take in the atmosphere just to sort of get a picture in my mind
that I hope last for a long long time. And I did that last
night in that place was absolutely packed. I mean there was no place to
put other people. I mean that was how they had standing room only seats.
That they had standing seats, but standing room only tickets. I believe
that they had brought in some additional folks for that fight. So, I
mean, I wish every boxing fan TJ could go to a big fight because
I can't tell you how many people in my career I have met who they
come to a fight and I'll come up to me to talk to me boxing
stuff, and they'll say, oh, you know, i've never been to
a big fight. Is my first time going to a fight. And I
tell them, I said, if you're a big fan like this and you've
never been, when you go, you're done for life because you'll always get
a fan because that's how great the atmosphere for these big events can be.
Yeah, you're hooked at that moment, all right, So let's get into
it. I will say up front from a distance not being there, this
is not an epic. It was not an epic. It did get a
knockout. It delivered on excitement for that reason. Although it was kind of
weird as an unfolded we're gonna get into that. But in terms of action
pat, in terms of lots of punches and drama, this was not that.
That's me saying that. All right, Now give me your analysis because
you were closer to it, and it obviously culminates with the body shot that
for a two or three seconds we didn't realize that's what put him down.
I mean, just to say to you, I don't know what your reaction
was. My first reaction was did he hurt his leg? Is something wrong
with my immediate first reaction is did he just hurt his leg? And then
you saw him grimacing, and it's like that was the body shot, and
the announcers even on showtime was the same thing. But take us through the
fight and your thoughts on it and leading to the body shot and ended it.
Well, I thought the same thing as you. I mean, I
was watching it and I saw I mean the way that the knockout occurred where
we were sitting tanks back was to us and Ryan was facing us on our
side of the arena. But I thought I didn't see the punch at first,
and I thought, yeah, he took a step back. I thought
he twisted his knee. It I had. I tell you what I immediately
thought of. This is how like it came to my mind that it was
a like a leg injury. I was, I was in Atlantic. I
was in Atlantic City or either Atlantic City or I guess it was Brooklyn.
Actually I think about it Brooklyn Atlantic said. I forget when Charles Martin won
the IBF heavyweight title against Glasgow because it was never a punch drone. They
were like the second or third round and glass Cloff simply fell down and went
to it down because he had blown out his knee and there was no punch
landing. And that's what I That was the first thing that popped into my
mind. I tell you know, it's a weird thing to think of,
but you're trying to think about, like what other situations are similar As it
turned out when you watched the replays, Yeah, it was a body shot.
The reason why you thought it was a knee or a lag or a
foot or an ankle or something like that was because there was so much time
between the time that the punch connected and the time that Brian went down.
Relatively speaking, you get hit with a headshot like that, you're gone,
you know what I mean. You get hit with a body shot, and
i've i mean every boxing ban that watches enough fights and you see body shots
and guys go down to a knee. It's the late reaction is not an
unusual thing. A guy gets hitting the liver or the ribs or whatever that.
You know, sometimes it takes a second or two to transmit the pain
before they actually realize what's up, and they then they go down to a
knee. This one, as the late reactions go, seemed a lot longer.
It was almost like one Mississippi, two Mississippi, and now he goes
down to a knee. But you know, anybody that is suggesting that he
wasn't truly hurt and it was, you know, he was kind of shamming
out of the fight, that's nonsense. He was like he you could just
leave a look on his face as nose was bleeding. You know, he
was in you know, the rest from that body punch. It was,
and it wasn't. I didn't. I mean I watched it a few times
on the replace. I don't believe it was a liver shot. I believe
what it did what it took the breath away because he hit him like above
the liver, like in the rib cage, and the combination of like you
know, taking your wind out plus getting hit on the ribs like that is
gonna it's gonna take you a few seconds to recover from that. So that
that was a spectacular punch from Tank Davis, not a punch I'm used to
seeing from in terms of going to the body like that. But it was
to back up on some amount of things you mentioned as far as the activity
level and not being a class sicker or anything like that. Like, I
never thought it was going to be an epic fight, just because epic fights
usually don't happen when you have that kind of power with both combatants. Epic
fights often happen when you see guys who are, you know, good punchers
maybe, but they're not devastating punchers. And Ryan Garcian and Tank Davis can
eliminate you with one punch. It's it's the epic fights are the fights that
are guys that aren't necessarily the one punch knockout artists, but it takes them
a little while to break you down. That's why when I think about those
types of fights, like you know, think about Eric Morales and Marco Antonio
Brera. I mean, they both had a lot of knockouts and all that,
and they were good punchers, but no one's ever going to describe those
two guys as knockout artists, And the same thing would go for like a
Mickey Warder and Artaro Gatti. Mickey though with the body shots, whether he
was capable of landing, you know, I'll go pick pick a trilogy even
like like a Vander Holyfield and Ridding Bow heavyweights, both good punchers obviously,
but neither of them were big one punch knockout artists as big guys like that,
but they could take their shots and they could punch enough. So that's
why they weren't going to hang in and make them epic fights. With Tank
and Ryan, I never thought it would be that because I figured if someone's
gonna connect like that, someone's gonna go. But the one thing about it,
the amount of punch is thrown. I mean we talked beforehand about the
cautious not the cautiousness, but the economic punching of Tank Davis because he throws
so few punches, but he lands at such a high rate. That's a
great combination if you're a boxer. Ryan obviously a little more active and lands
a little bit more. But in this particular fight, I mean, if
you if you just looked at the raw punch stats and you hadn't to watch
the match, You're like, oh my god, that was like they were
statistics that were in the toilet. I mean they barely they barely threw any
punches. I use your word cautious. He was overly cautious at the beginning
of the fight. Jervonte Davis like, I am afraid almost to get countered
until I figure out distance and angles. And then he eventually did figure it
out quickly in the second round with a leap. But I mean it was
almost overly cautious. I would say for a lot of the early part of
the fight from Davis in terms of what they landed and this. You know,
again we talked about Company Box all the time. I respect what they
do. I again, I've said a thousand times it's not the end all
be all. It doesn't tell you exactly what the fight is, but it
does sures help give a good guy, especially when you keep looking at those
numbers fight after fight after fight, and not just one at a time as
a whole totality. And in this particular fight you had six was it six
completed rounds and then you know a little bit into the seventh round before they're
not gonna occurred. So for both fighters, only one time did one of
them land double digits in a round, so Tank Davis was credited with landing
I believe it was ten punches in the sixth round, correct, Other than
that one, two, three, four, five and seven single digits and
Garcia's single digits in the sixth round, and it was only ten punches,
not fifteen or twenty or more. So that tells you that there wasn't a
lot of leather being swapped or landed. But what what the thing about the
atmosphere and knowing the power that these two guys possessed and that anything can happen
at any moment and the crowd. I found it to be. While not
a great exciting fight, there was to me always an element of tension like
even though there wasn't a lot of punches. I mean, I've seen shot
like I'll give you an example watching the Beck the Bully Gabriel Rosotto undercard fight.
You know, I wanted to blow my fucking brains out how bad that
fight was. But there was no punches landed, no punches throwne just a
horrible, horrible fight. But so there was I wanted to doze off.
Even though there wasn't a lot of punches or activity being going on. During
the Tank and Ryan fight, there was always like intense tension because they were
like sizing each other up. You knew something was gonna come. And even
though there wasn't a lot of punches going or you know either way, they
still did throw enough where they were connecting and making it interesting. So the
lack of output didn't make it a terrible fight. But again, like you
said, it wasn't a classic. I didn't expect the classic, but it
was. You gotta give Tan credit, man, he got a job done,
and that's what it's all about. Take us back to the moment in
the arena in the second round when he lands the left upper cutting. It's
interesting at the angle that he was at He landed it on the left side,
the left jaw, on the chin of Garcia and knocked him down.
I mean, everybody on their feet. I sat up. Tell me in
the arena what it was like in the team loble arena. Just a huge
pop. I mean when when there's that moment and everybody's been excited for this
fight and you're expecting action. And the first round was okay. I mean
Ryan sort of established the jab and he had a really good round, I
thought, even though it wasn't like a dominating round, but you know,
he can fight and he's in the ring. I mean he's rather he's in
the fight and he's taking control. And uh, not so much a surprise
because we've talked many times about the the the Tank Davis slow start where he
doesn't throw much and that usually extends deeper into the fight. So that didn't
surprise Gate. But when he landed that shot. Remember in the second round,
Ryan was dominating the round. He was making Tank hold onto him.
He had landed some nice combinations and he was having you know, he had
him hanging on for dear life. At one point he landed some some very
solid punches and so You're like, Okay, he's gonna he won the first
round, he's probably he's definitely winning the second round so far, and then
suddenly Tank with a beautiful count on the left hand. Clear up, you
know, he dropped his hand and clear on the chain. And I have
to tell you it was his face that would have been knocked out by that
punch. And Ryan Garcia he took that shot like a champ right, and
he got up. And he not only did he get up, he didn't
really even seem that shaky, like he can't call it a flash knock now
because it was like clean is you know, clean is a whistle kind of
punch. But he shook that off, I mean kind of the same way
he did a similar left hand that dropped him against Louke Campbell the only other
time he's been on the dead right, So that was early in that fight.
And then, ironically for what we're talking about, he ended the Campbell
fight with a body shot of his own hitting Campbell, So in this fight
ended the other way with him getting hit with the body shot. Do you
believe it made Garcia more apprehensive from that moment on? What did you judge
from your ringside seat that now he tasted that power and it made him a
little more apprehensive. No, I didn't sense that. I don't. I
didn't sense apprehension because he knows that he's a puncher. You know, he
knows that, and you know he wasn't hurt. I mean, he was
gonna be careful. He was always going to be trying to be careful of
the left hand. That is, you know tanks, you know, a
south buzz. He's got a very powerful left hand. So I don't I
didn't sense apprehension because he was always going to be on the lookout for that
punch, and you know, he just didn't catch it that time. In
terms of I don't I don't know. I don't mean a up. But
I don't know how much you got to hear, if anything of the corner
audio. But it was interesting from Joe Goosen after the second round where he
was saying to Ryan Garcia, he is loading up and setting you up for
that. Be careful, he's loading you up for that left upper cut.
Keep moving, keep using the jab. So obviously they had talked about it,
they've watched it on tape. That's not a surprise. But it was
interesting that that goose, and I just wanted to let you know that was
reminding him in between rounds. He's setting you up for that left upper cut.
Just Joe would be derelicting his duty of course, Ryan, I mean
that that's Tank Davis's not his only weapon, but that's like the best thing
he does is land big left hands and upper cuts. But back to round
two, with the scoring of that round, I found that to be very
interesting. No no, no laugh so let me just oh I am laughing,
but go ahead. Interesting is one way to describe it. Yeah,
Ryan had, as we mentioned, dominated the round, and he got knocked
down late in the round and when the when the round was over night,
when the fight was over, rather we got copies of the scorecards. Look
at you had three judges, two of scored. Two scored the round only
ten to nine in favor of Tank Davis. Because he had lost so one
sidedly in the first part of the round. They felt like the knockdown wasn't
justifiable enough to give them two points. I didn't agree with that, but
I understand that Dave Moretti, who is one of the best judges in boxing
and has been for decades, scored the round ten to ten, and again
that is permissible by the rules and his philosophy. I again, I don't
agree with it, but I'm not going to argue with Dave Ready, who's
got a lot more experience than you, me or anybody else. Frankly,
his position is that that the knockdown brought it back to a tie. That's
how dominating Garcia had been. Now, I after the fight, had a
conversation with one of the judges, and not because I sought him out or
vice versa. I just happened to be the park MGM, which is across
the street the Team Mobile arena, and met up with a couple of people
and some of the judges and the other commitment and other people involved with the
event were there. And it's a judge I have known for a long time.
We're not friends, we don't like hang out, but you know,
we've known each other for years and have a healthy respect for one another.
And I stopped and we talked about it, and I wasn't like argumented if
I was interested to, like, what's the philosophy? And my philosophy is
that a knockdown, particularly one that that is that hard, that's a big
moment in a fight as a knockdown and you deserve the extra point. I
didn't see Ryan as being that dom make it only in one point round,
so I scored round ten to eight. My bad. Maybe the other two
judges scored a ten to nine and Ready went ten to ten. I understand
the rationale, and I know it's easy to look at it and say,
you know, oh my god, what are they thinking? But if you
know how judges are supposed to score, what the rules of boxing are,
what is recommended by the commission, what the sanction bodies talk about, it
was not terrible. I was only surprised that a judge would have scored it
ten to nine, or even in Murdy's case, which is a little bit
more controversial, if you will, ten to ten. I was a little
surprised that not any of the three judges scored a ten to eight, frankly,
but you know, thankfully, it didn't have any impact on the right
scoring into the fight going the distance because obviously there was a knockout. Because
trust me, if that fight goes the distance and it's a close fight or
a draw, or it's one point one way, or that extra point might
have meant that difference between a win a loss. That would have been the
controversies. You've got a knockdown and you didn't give him a ten a by
the way, and by the way, we're coming to that with the Cordina
rock them off ending where the fight ends on a one point decision because of
the knockdown round your exact point that we will talk about in a little bit.
And we should be and when we should be clear on this. That's
why it's called a ten point must system. You had to give ten points
to the winner. But still, I mean, Tank Davis won the round,
So make it a ten nine round if that's the case. Well,
I know, but the one that scored a ten ten, Tank Davis has
knocked down one that rap, so make it make a ten line. After
the fight, I'll let the take you behind the curt a little bit.
So the the uh, the PR team that works the fight that helps,
you know, helps and it does great work to help all of us out
that our journalists. Um. What they do is they'll send the packet after
the fight an email and in that email, one of the things they send
you is the official scorecard. Like it they'll take there's a there's a what
do you call it a photo link? What do we call like a drop
box link? All right, So in the drop box, you know,
like you picked the artwork that the that the photographer, you know, showtime
and a PBC they have their photographers are that allows any of the media to
use those those images. But they also put the official scorecard in there.
So I blew that up on my screen because I wanted to see where we
were at at the time of the knockout. And I'm looking and I see
Okay tank as a head on the scorecards, which makes sense, and I'm
like doing a double take, like why is the one fifty you know,
fifty was a fifty eight fifty seven. I'm like, why is this all
different? And I'm looking down each road and then I realized the ten ten
round was making me crazy and They're to like do my math. It was
just highly unusual. So yeah, So after all these fights each at least
the fights that were on the pay per view, within a you know,
a couple of minutes after the fight, we get the copy box statistics,
and we get the squorecard and in a link to go to the images of
the bout. And I always take a look at that squrecard and I was
just sort of like surprised, as we've been talking about that it was that
that all three judges scored that round the way way that they did. I
mean, but that's uh, you know, they all agreed so or at
least, well, it is interesting they all agreed that it shouldn't be ten
to eight point. And your point about the closeness of the round of the
judges point would be at the beginning of that round, Ryan Garcia laid a
couple of right hands and Tank Davis appeared to be a little stunned, and
then he wanted to do in the football rough housing. I'm going to try
to tackle you so you can't hit me with a follow up punch, and
he got warned. It was kind of he was following and trying to tack
Ryan Garcia at two different times across the ring because I think he was legitimately
concerned about a follow up punch and then boom. That's if you find if
you find yourself in trouble, that's a strategy to use, and you do
it until the reftels you. Yeah, Thomas Taylor did eventually tell him to
knock it up. All right, So the fight goes along and Davis eventually
gets the punch, gets the knockout win. How would you describe it?
Again, this is why we love having you there. How would you describe
the crowd in the seconds at the end of it? Was it more confusion?
Was there some booing you couldn't audibly tell if there was booing that had
stayed on the knee. What was it like in the arena in that moment?
There was definitely some confusion about why he went down, but there was
no confusion that the fight was over. So the people didn't care why it
was over. If you were there for Dank Davis. What was interesting about
the crowd And you don't see this a lot of times for some of these
megafights, where there's usually a clear you know, house fighter, the popular
fighter, and then there's the villain fighter. You know, who's the outsider
who maybe not from this country or not from that air area. In this
particular fight, both guys had, you know, tremendous support. There was
one moment in I believe it was in the sixth round and I wrote this
in my piece, where that there was there was a good exchange where both
guys got in good punches in the sixth round and the crowd. Half the
crowd started chanting Ryan, Ryan, and the other half, you know,
moments later started channing Tank Tank Tank. So there was a split crowd.
I mean, both guys got their huge you know cheers, both guys got
their booze. Uh. And that makes it interesting. It was really truly
a split house. There was a ton of people there for for for Jervonta
Davis. There was a ton of people there that were cheering on for Ryan
Garcia, and that makes it interesting. So, like I said, when
the fight ended, there was definitely confusion, and there was that. There
was a lot of cheering from the Tank people and not really much of it.
Did you hear booing or you couldn't hear booing? You just only heard
booing, I mean when the fight was ended, correct booing when the most
people most of the time that there's no when the fight's over. The booing
usually only takes place that there's a you know, people are upset with the
scorecard, but on a knockout, you know what happens, and that's that.
So that this was unusual. You know where I'm coming because he's on
a knee. He's taking the full count, and I think that most people
watching believe he was going to get up at eight or nine, and he
stayed there and in that moment when he stood up, my initial reaction was
what he stood up after the ten count? And so I just wonder if
some people in the arena, we're not only going what, but what are
you doing? And booing about it that he that he could have maybe continues.
So I'm just curious. It was quite like that. It was like
when when again watching the rid play, you could tell Ryan and he just
he couldn't catch his win. He just was, you know, the onely
thing. And I understand the criticism. The only thing is he's wincing.
And and what's interesting when you go back and watch, it's like the Suppruter
film, Back into the Left, Back into the Left. I'm just trying
to make you laugh. But when you watch the beginning of the knockdown,
he tries to get up, like the first knockdown, right away in the
first second or two, and his legs don't work. I'm serious. Watch
it again, people, he tries to get Up'm not saying this to Dan.
Watch it to the fans, he tries to get up in the first
second or two when he winces like, my god, my legs don't work.
I can't you know, like you said, I can't catch my breath.
Whatever's wrong. And then he's there on knee and Thomas Taylor sees,
okay, he's not up off the knee. I'm gonna get down right in
front of him, so he knows what the count is while the while the
crowd's going crazy. That's exactly what he should do. And when he gets
to the count of seven and says seven, Ryan looks right at him and
nods, and I took that nod in the moment. I'm gonna get up.
And then he counts eight. And then he counts nine and I'm like,
he's getting up. No, he's not getting up. And then the
count is ten, and this is where people are going a bit crazy.
The internet is what it is. He stands up immediately and walks right to
the corner where people are saying, you could have done that at nine,
you could have done that at nine, all right? Then I see you
shaking your head, but go ahead. You just never know. I mean,
I believe that he was not capable of continuing because of that punch.
I mean there are times where you see guys in I feel like, you
know what, they really didn't give it their best effort, and they made
a trying to find a way out. Trust me, Ryan Garcia was not
looking for a way out of that fight. I mean, you know,
he was down on the scorecards fair enough, and he had been dropped.
But that was not a fight that was out of hand. That was not
a fight that was not competitive round to round. Even if he wasn't getting
the scores, he still has the ability to possibly land one of his dynamic
left hooks and do some damage. So anybody that's suggesting that somehow he was
looking for a way out or didn't want to continue, or you know,
was quitting, that is absolutely I'm going to coin up a phrase from our
friends in Britain. That's rubbish. It is rubbish, okay, So take
me. So, now we saw the in ring interviews and then we I
even saw a little bit of the postfight, and you were there for the
post fight interviews at Longer. All right. So the first thing is Davis
says to Jim Gray and on the PA, I was surprised he didn't get
up from that shot. Okay, that's fair enough. Ryan Garcia then says,
I'm not going to make excuses. I could not get up. I
couldn't get up, and I'm not going to make excuses. All right now,
postfight press Contrice, they take the ring down, this is they empty
out the arena. This is for the media only. And they showed a
little bit of that on Showtime's YouTube channel, and I've seen some of the
clips. Garcia again repeated, I'm not gonna make excuses. I was hurt
and I could not get up. So there it is, Ryan Garcia.
I mean again, I've covered a thousands of these kind of fights, okay,
and I can't till many times you see a guy that's lost the fight,
they have an alibi, they make an excuse. I mean, you
feel bad for them because they lost, but they're they're looking for reasons they're
in there. You know, it's hard to take a loss like that,
especially when you're a fighter like a Ryan Garcia with an undefeated record and you're
in a really, really big fight. But I have to give the kid
credit. I mean, Ryan Garcia is a stand up guy. He did
not make a single excuse. He didn't say anything about I actually asked him
at the press conference, and some people are criticizing I've seen on Twitter,
but fuck them because it's a legitimate question that somebody had to ask. I
asked him, you know, were you at all compromise by the weight loss
because they made you come down to one thirty six and even more so,
they made you a rehydration. Why why are they coming? That's the most
legitimate thing to ask after the fight. Why are the count give me a
break? Please? Let me tell you. You come with the king,
you better well, Land, I agree with you because you're gonna swat me
on you swat me on a regular basis. But yes, I mean that's
a valid point. But so kay, Ryan Garcia did not you know he
basically I don't remember exactly what he said in the answer. He's like,
you know, being honest, Yeah, you know it. It didn't help,
and that it was I was, you know, I was not maybe
at my desk, but I'm not making his uses as I signed a contract
and we fought the fight. So a lot of guys and I asked it
for this reason. I want to see, what is your character? What
is your character in this moment, and I have said this from the beginning
of my boxing writing career. Actually, the first time I really kind of
thought about this early on, and I'm gonna stay side track for a quick
second, was when Prince Nasimham had lost to Marco Antonio Burr and I was
I've seen more talk more shit than anybody in the world. He had the
biggest ego and he you know, he was the always about himself in terms
of his public persona, and he thought he's going to be the source loser
of all time and make all the excuses in the world when Brera beat his
ass. And I've always to this day remember going to that post side press
guards and my respect for Ahmed who which was always high, rising to another
level because he did not make any excuses. Remember he lost his undefeated record
that night and it was this month that year, Like, yeah, he
talked about it a couple of weeks ago and he was nothing, but he
was nothing but class after the fighting, gave credit to Barrera and didn't make
excuses. You said that lost the perfect record, lost the you know,
the featherweight lineal championship, all that anyway, But the point is I felt
at that moment in my mind, I said, you know what, it's
more interesting to learn the character of a fighter when they lose than it is
to see what the fighters like when they win. And so that's always sort
of stuck with me. And I found myself over all these years, when
the fight's over and it's a knockout, I find myself, my eyes and
my interest going towards the loser, sometimes more so than the winner. So
when they came, Ryan asked that question specifically, are you going to make
an excuse or are you gonna say what? And Ryan answered it the way
I would have not that I cared how he answered. I was just entered
what the answer would be. But I'm glad that he answered it the way
he did because he showed that he's a stand up guy. He didn't make
excuses. He gave Tank David's credit for landing a great punch. He said,
you know, he appreciated being in the ring with another great fighter,
and I like to hear that. I. You know, we all get
all over guys when they when they make excuses. The guy didn't make any
excuse, and people still getting all over him about stuff. Lane pick a
Lane That's what we like to say. Sometimes you just sometimes you can't win.
And Ryan Garcia, I'm gonna say this deserves the respect from every single
boxing fan because, as I wrote in the pre fight and many talked about
and wrote about also, Ryan Garcia, will this fight to happen. We
wanted as fans to see the best guys against the best guys. We wanted
this megafight. We wanted to see two guys in there, best undefeated,
who are exciting, who have big fan bases, come together when so many
other fighters just refused to take those gambles make it impossible to make a deal
Terre Scrafford, Arrow Spence, and you can't get it done. And these
guys took the gamble, took the risk. Now, thank Davis was part
of it too, he had to go along with it and he's half the
equation. But I'm telling you, without the Ryan Garcia pushing, pushing,
pushing, pushing for the last year and a half, this fight would not
have happened. He ate a lot of shit making this fight. He took
the short end of the money and b side billing. He took the weight
restriction in terms of the catchweight and the rehydration class. His team took the
fight from their platform to zone to go to showtime to make the fight.
He even argued with his own people at Golden Boy because he wasn't going to
take no for answer, and I'm gonna be pissed off if people dump out
over him the fight. He made the fucking fight happen, and he gave
us what he gave us, and he got nailed with a beautiful body shot.
Tank Davis deserves all the credit for taking him out like that, but
you cannot have it both ways. Demand showed character in defeat and I appreciate
that. All right, good enough on that, so I ask one more
follow up. We'll get to the rest of this card. Then we're getting
into Cordina and his win over rock him off for the IBF Super Featherweight title,
which was a tremendous fight again in Cardiff, Wales earlier in the day.
We always kind of wrap these with what's next, all right, So
let's talk about Davis. Do you believe he I mean, realistically, at
one thirty five, we have Devin Haney, we have Lomachenko, we have
Shakour Stevenson who they're grooming and what do they all have in common? Their
top rank, And I don't think Davis is going to get a shot at
any of that unless belts get split up somehow, some way. That's me
saying that, what do you what do you think is next? Either at
lightweight or at one forty for Tank Davis? Off this win. Now we
know what's immediately next. He's going before a judge in Baltimore. But in
the ring, after whatever happens with jail time or whatever, what is next
in the theorized for me, mighty one go, I'm going to characterize it
completely different than you because I think agree with your characterization. It's not that
he won't get a shot at those guys, it's that those guys won't get
a shot at him. Now, Yes, Devin Hany's the undisputed champion and
a fine champion at that, and if Loma Chenko wins their fight coming up
next month, he will be the undisputed champion and he is a great fighter
and a future Hall of Famer. And sha course, Stevenson obviously is on
the rise and probably will be a pound for pound king someday, and as
a tremendous boxer and just a terrific fighter all around, but those three guys
don't have what Tank Davis has. Now, those guys may you know,
Da Loma has been a unified champion and one belt in multiple weight classes.
Shakor has one titles and two weight classes. He's probably at some point in
the future eventually going to have a lightweight title somehow. And obviously Devin now
has all the belts as undisputed, but they don't have them in the financial
muscle, an economic muscle that Tank Davis has taint. Davis has had some
title, He's had secondary titles. He won a legit title, had one
hundred and thirty want to you know a regular I guess a real title at
one thirty five, but it was sort of manufacturing in the way that they
went about getting him that belt. But Tank Davis is not really a guy
that's ever talked or I'm not saying he doesn't care about titles, but he
wants to make that money and put on those big events. And if Loma,
Chenko and Hany and should court in any other of the top lightweights want
to do that, he's the rainmaker. Now, now I'm not saying I
don't necessarily subscribe to the talking point before the fight between him and Ryan Garcia
that the winner was now somehow going to become the face of boxing, because
the two guys were already among the biggest stars beforehand. Tanks obviously now become
bigger. But I would say to you that even in the loss, Ryan
Garcia gained in stature because he's gonna still have a lot of people that are
gonna want watch him. It's a fascinating thing to see how he comes back
and all that. But Tank Davis is now, you know, from below
heavyweight, there's always somebody that's the rainmaker below heavyweight, whether it was Sugary
Leonard or was you know, many packing on Floyd, they with her,
you know the who headed Monster or Oscar dal Joy or Knello Alvarez, whoever
you want to pick. At this moment in time, it is in fact
now, I believe based on the magnitude of the events and that kind of
crowds he does, and the pay per view and even though the pay per
views previously we're in the two hundred round, this one's going to be a
monster of you know, our friends at PPV dot com. One of the
people that works with them said to me last night, they already knew that
it was the biggest PPV dot com event they had ever done, period because
they know they know their digital numbers immediately. So that tells you this is
going to be a big monster relative to today's pay per view era. So
I'm saying to you that having titles and having all of that stuff, and
I appreciate the championships in history of the sport, but the rainmaker, the
guy that the one hundred thirty one hundred forty is going to revolve around for
the next few years unless he's incarcerated, is going to be Jervonte Davis.
And so if the fight gets big enough, like we've seen in boxing,
I think something we would see at Tank Davis fight against Ash. Of course,
Stevens the type of guy you know. Ryan See was saying, you
know, hopefully he can coin a couple of fights and get a rematch either
at one forty said maybe even at one forty seven. So you know a
lot of guys are gonna be calling Tank Davis out. He's gonna bring the
money, but he also brings the pain, and he also brings the really
good chance of losing your losing your fight, all right, and we'll see
again. May the fifth is when uh Senko demile. As a matter of
fact, is when he will be sentenced. And what is that sentence in
Baltimore for the felony hit and run. That's a couple of weeks away.
That's the next domino here, and realistically that is probably the rest of this
year. If he sentenced to jail time, let's see though that's not it's
not completely certain, but we believe that there is. All right, yeah,
but make one more prediction. By the way, if he if he's
not in jail and he's able to fight again at the end of the year
or even in the early part of the next year. People were asking me
that, So it's sort of been in my mind. Who would he actually
fight. I actually think there's a very good chance for different reasons. I'm
not saying it's one hundred percent, obviously, but I think there's a really
reasonable chance that in next fight we might see him rematch with Isaac Pitt,
Bull Cruz makeable fight. Yeah, as far as Ryan Garcia goes, he
said a hundred you know, he said it a couple of times afterwards,
he's gonna go to one forty, and at one forty there's a rich weight
class with a lot of good talented guys and a lot of decent you know,
a lot of good names, and even if they're not with Golden Boy,
that's fine. Ryan Garcia is similar to Tank. He's gonna still be
a rainmaker. Maybe not at the level of Tank Davis in terms of those
huge, huge, huge fights, but trust me, Ryan Garcia's gonna help
his opponent and make the most money they've ever made. And one forties a
rich division, and you know it's not impossible. Golden Boy, which promotes
Ryan and Top Rank, which has several fighters in that weight class, including
Josh Kaylor the champion, and Tiethimo Lopez who's going to challenge him, Devin
Haney if he decides to go up after one Wi Chango, whatever happens there,
and others. You know, they've done plenty of business in recent times,
and I don't think that's a huge deal. They have Jose Ramirez,
there's a former champion in that weight class, did a lot of a lot
of good talented fighters at wont would it surprised you? Would it surprise you
that Garcia would immediately get a title fight at one forty with somebody without fighting
somebody else and beating them first in a non title fight. Would it surprise
you if this fall he's right back in there in a title fight, maybe
at one forty. The name I keep thinking is Regis Program, who keeps
saying I'm a promotional free agent. He's got an WBC belt. But would
it surprise you back to the Garcia point that he doesn't fight somebody else first
to get a confidence building win and then fight for a title. What is
your thought on that hypothetical. Ryan hasn't yet to fight for a major world
title in his career yet anyway, So and I quiz him about the the
the how important it was to in on our podcast that we did that I
did with back in the build up to this fight, you know, And
he's like, yeah, that is something that he would like to do,
but it was it's not been the most important thing. It's about who he's
fighting for that title. So for example, it was Regis Program, who
I think most people would view as at work the second in the division.
You know, Taylor maybe number one, he's lineal. He defeated Regis,
although he you know, he hasn't fought for a while. He had a
you know, pretty poor performance at his last fight. The point I'm saying
here's this. You're right, Regis Probe is a promotional free agent. That
is one hundred percent true, and him and him and Ryan Garcia would be
a hell of a fight. But I don't see that necessarily being the next
fight, but I think that would be a possibility. I mean, that's
a great let me tell you something. That's a dynamite fight. They got
good personalities, they're very marketable, they have, uh, you know,
a good style to go together. But I mean, look, Ryan was
like, I want to get back in the ring, give me like a
few months. He's gonna be on a suspension anyway for taking the knockout,
you know, for however long. That's probably sixty days before he can have
contact anyway. You know, he just made a ton of money on Saturday
night. He doesn't have to get back in the ring or right away.
But yeah, well I'm very confident that we'll probably see Ryan Garcia back in
the fall, and hopefully they can come up with a with a good name.
He'll makers his true day. He's want to be his debut. One
hundred and four he's fought two fights there, But go back to a good
opponent and make a big show out of it and uh, you know,
and whatever happens, then move on from there. And you know, to
say you're automatical, you're gonna get a title shot, it's hard to say
that because you know, even in a time when when there's non disputed champion,
it's hard. But even when there's not a non disputed champan, you
gotta pick that guy you can deal with. Regis WBA situation is going to
be in flux because of the probable stripping of Alberto Playo that is coming up
due to his failed drug test. Um. Who are the old champions in
one hundred and forty pounds? I mean it's uh, they're not They're not
necessarily finds that you can make right away. Who are I didn't remember off
the top my head? With the other champions? Are? You got program?
And uh and Taylor and obviously is fighting Taya Femo Lopez later this summer
as well. Okay, so wayo is WBA. That's probably probably gonna be
vacant or something's gonna happen there. Program's WBC. Taylor's WBO. Taylor's fighting
Ta Femo in June. And who's the an IBF champion who should not be
forgotten, not because he's a tremendous fighter. Also is Sabrill Matias with the
big gut gut artist who doesn't have a fight scheduled. He's a PBC fighter,
h and he's I know he's They've been looking around for fights for him.
We'll see if he if he sticks with PBC or not. But you
know, I don't necessarily see Ryan coming back and fighting for any of his
belts in the next night. But Ryan Garcia is not a guy that you
know as a fan, you'd like to see the best the champions. But
he can fight significant fights and not necessarily have a title associated with it,
as he did on Saturday Night with Tank Davis snow titles. Nobody cared good
enough alright, immediately preceding that one, the co feature victory in just one
round, you mocked me with good reason on Friday that I'm never gonna learn,
I said Morrell. I said the under I said it could happen quickly,
and it did. And I have to defer to you that you see
the well, fine, but you see the opponents much more than I do.
You made a strong case for why foul Cow could last a while.
It did not happen. Morrell overwhelmed him. You were at ringside, go
you saw it. You got the under and I'll just say that sometimes even
a blind squirrel gets I will say this, that was a thundering right hand
over TV, tell me about that thundering right hand that ended it at ringside
for Morrell with the knockout in the first round. It was a tremendous performance.
David Morrell's a really good fighter. I mean he's He's a guy that
came out of that massive amateur background who was able to move very quickly as
a professional. Maybe not at the incredibly swift speed of like a Lomachenko,
who was you know, fighting with major fighters and world champions and winning belts,
you know, and like what three or four fights, But David Morrell
is the real deal. Dabrell is not a guy to play with. He
is a real He is a real deal. And as I as I mentioned
I think in the preview, like I got a chance to meet him in
person this week, and I just didn't realize how big he was for super
middle he's a big dude, like I don't know how he gets into one
hundred and how that body gets into a one hundred and sixty eight pounds.
He's strong, he's powerful. He's got a tremendous background from his amateur days
in Cuba. He's got that soul called the ring IQ. He's in great
condition. He's got a really friendly, nice, chill, distant disposition about
him, and he wants to fight big fights. He wants that challenge himself.
He's not. I get the impression from talking to him briefly and hearing
interviews with him and also talking to his team, doesn't not looking to protect
his undefeated record. Wants to make the biggest fights possible. And uh,
you know, if people were watching, they saw immediately after dispatched poor Yamagucci
Falco so violently calling out David benavides right away. That's a great fight.
They're both with PBC right on that point. How realistic is that? Would
Navidez? Would Benavidez want that right now? As opposed to sitting in his
perch and saying, I want Canelo give me some insight into that. Well,
he's not. He's not, you know, he getting Canello. Is
that, I think probably what every superman of weight would want because it's the
biggest challenge, he's the champion, it's the most money. I mean,
it checks all those boxes. But Cannelo Albarez, his year is pretty much
spoken for. He's gonna fight John Ryder in a few weeks and then his
fight that's going to be in September. That's not definite, but there's a
probably a very strong likelihood that it's going to be a rematch against the major
b ball and that means there wouldn't be a fight against any of these other
guys. Now, Morrell is a Canelo mandatory as the WBA's a regular champion.
David Benavides as the WBC's interim champion is maybe not technically the mandatory because
they have to call the mandatory just because your interim doesn't mean you are the
mandatory, but usually you become the mandatory in that position. And he certainly
the best of the other guy guys in that in their rankings, let's say,
and that's a fight that he would want also. But if you can't
get the Canelo fight, and you in Tim Benavides this case, you already
defeated Kayla Plant, probably the next best known guy in your way class,
and you got this guy out there that's calling you out and it's a makeable
fight, and you just put on a big event on pay per view with
Kayla Plant and you know, made a good payday. And the thing about
it is with David Morrell, his economic requirements to make the match are not
going to be at the higher level the way that Caleb Plants was who made
million dollars against Kennelo Alvarez. So if you're David Morrell, he's going to
be respected for his position. Can make his biggest pay day in the millions,
but still fall far short of what it was required to pay you know,
other top opponents, like you know when Cannello paid Plant, you know,
the ten dollion or so. So it's a makeuple fight, I believe
economically, and I think both guys would take it. David Benavides has said
to everybody that will listen, I'm not ducking anybody. I want to fight
all the top guys. And for him, if he fought Morrell, you
know, he get another belt. I mean, I don't know is a
secondary WBA belt worth more than an ib WBC interro Belt. I have no
idea, but the point is no one's gonna really care about the belts.
That's a great fight, and I'm gonna say it for the second time in
about five minutes. Sign me up for that one, Benavidez and Morrell,
and if you win, either Morrell or Benavidez, you are now the clear
guy, the clear guy to be in line with Cannello Alvarez. I believe
at one sixty eight you could maybe an argument for somebody else, but so
I don't I don't know if it's definitely the next fight because they you know,
Bena vEDS just fought on pay per view. That could be a fight
that maybe showed time can afford to do on a regular show time potentially,
But you have to remember also they're gonna have Demetris Andreid in the mix.
Heres recent fight in January that took place on the Tank Davis Hector Louise Scarcia
undercard, that was like the so called warm up fight, you know,
welcome back to the sport after a layoff and a shoulder injury and changing to
your new team. He's going to be in the mix to fight any of
those guys. It wouldn't shock me at all if we saw Andrei get you
know, a fight Morrell or with Benavides before the two of those guys fight
each other. But there's definitely gonna be anticipation for that fight David and Morrell.
And this may sound like something that won't people won't love this, And
I don't advocate this often. Every so often you gotta be realistic, I'm
not. I think David Merrell would be helped by having another one or two
fights before he gets that fight. Like it does need to sign a like
marinate a little bit. To use my name, Bob Aaron's phrase, not
a lot. But you know, Morrell needs a little bit more attention to
get to be known a little bit better, and they can make that a
much bigger event. Um. I mean, I wouldn't if they make it
right away. I'm I'm not gonna complain. I know who the guys are,
but I understand that, you know, it does need mebe a little
bit of cooking, if you will, not a lot. So I don't
necessarily think that will be the next fight, but I do think that within
one or two fights, we're going to see that kind of thing. And
the think about Morrel also is, uh, you know, he seems to
be getting better, and you know won't You're gonna let's get him when you
can get him if you can't. It's kind of like the philosophy I think
that Floyd used when he fought Canello. Let me get him now when he's
twenty two, when he's still kind of green and went behind the ears,
and not wait another two years when he's going to be a real badass,
even more than he already was. So that that could be sort of one
of the things in that equation. But I'm gonna tell you something about David
Morrell that I thought of when I watched him, the way he just fucking
destroy in Falco. They have different styles. They're obviously not the same fighter.
And and and David Zoe a big, big guy. The punching power
reminded me of the super middleweight Roy Jones. I mean, and that's the
highest compliment I can get. You're not saying he is Roy Jones. You're
saying the punching power at one sixty eight, and of course Calzagi had big
punching power two. You can compare those two. You're not saying he's one
of those guys. I'm not saying that David Morel is Roy Jones at all.
What I'm saying is that super middleweights with that kind of power. It
just struck me. It's something that jumped into my mind when I saw the
way he took him out. You know, Roy had devastating one punch power
as a middleweight and as a super middleweight and even as a light heavyweight.
And Morrell just the way he just destroyed him. I mean, and now
I know it's Yamaguchi Falco. I'm not making it out like he was fighting,
you know, a Hall of Famer or anything like that, but it's
still impressive. That guy was a bronze medal winner in the Olympic Games.
The guy won like eight fights in a row. He'd been very active.
You know, he wasn't an old man. He was thirty four, which
you know, it's not like a young spring chicken. But it's not like
he's forty two or forty three. He didn't have a ton of wear and
tear on him as a professional. So I and I thought going in,
I'm not gonna dinna runaway from my comment, I said, and I stand
by it. That that Yamaguchi Faco was a better opponent on short notice than
the original opponent of Senna Egbecco, and I will stick by that. So,
uh, Count Me is impressed. I mean, I think David Morrell,
with that smile of his, that he can communicate with everybody in English
or in Spanish, with the team that he has around him, he's got
a chance to be, you know, in some major fights for a while.
He's he's a breath of freshman in this sport and for one of those
big fights with him, all right, and quickly, anything else before we
leave Las Vegas. Wasn't that a movie? Leaving Las Vegas? Before we
leave Las Vegas? Before you leave Las Vegas, and we want to talk
about the match room to Zonne main event in Wales. Anything else off the
undercard, Well, I don't think we need to spend a lot of time
on it. But just the back to bully fight, the rematch he had
with Gabrielson out to revenge after getting absolutely smoked in a massive knockout in a
huge upset a couple of fights ago by Rosotto and Rosalto. You know,
that was a terrible fight. It was, as I tweeted a terrible,
terrible, terrible fight back. It'll be you know, a gem for him
because he got to win an avenge the fight. He said before the fight,
I'd rather fight a rematch with Rosotto than have a world championship fight.
That's how badly he wanted to get the uh, you know, get the
win back that that you know that he lost in that fight against Rosalto and
Rostto, Uh it is thirty seven and suffered another loss. He's now lost
I believe five out of the last six. One win was that knockout against
back And I was happy to hear Rosalto's post fight comments that us he just
had no ability to catch up to him. He was a step behind,
and while he didn't say I'm retired, he basically was like, it's time
to stop and go teach the younger group. And you know what, Gab
will probably wind up training guys or managing guys, and he'll do a fine
job. And you know, and uh, he's a smart boxing guy and
he knows his stuff. And I wish Gaber's out of the best. I
mean, I know, I dumped all over this fight for a good reason,
and it turned out to be an absolute perst shit fight. But I've
always had respect for Gabe. He's a warrior and if he is in fact
done, good for him. He was in some help, you know,
some tremendous fight spot for world titles. You know, we had was one
of the only guys that had the balls to fight Triple G when it has
absolute best in middleway and uh, and gave a good go against him,
and uh, you know what can you say? So good luck to Gabe
and you know, beck to Bullie. Hopefully you know he learned his lesson
a getting them that not got lost and we could seem a little more aggressive
in his next fight. And in terms of the other fight that was the
opener of the pay per view, Elijah Garcia. He looks so great against
Alma karved Do with that win in his most recent fight before this one on
Showtime, this one against Kevin Salgado, a much tougher struggle but a good,
a good, solid win for an up and coming guy. I mean
he's only nineteen years old Garcia. So that was a solid victory against a
good professional and it wasn't easy. Started off slow. Salgado was there to
bring it to him a little bit, and you know, it's definitely going
to be the kind of fight that he learns from and I look forward to
seeing him again. All Right, So now we move on to what was
the best fight of the weekend, I believe, at least on the biggest
stages, and that is Joe Cordina's narrow split decision victory over shov rock him
Off for the IBF one hundred and thirty pound title. I was texting you
because you were making your way into the arena and you were like, Hey,
I'm trying to get set up, tell me what's going on? What's
and I'm like, great fight, great fight, exclamation point, exclamation point,
what a battle again? Cordina not unlike Tank Davis early knockdown scores,
the early second round knockdown and you're wondering, is he gonna knock him out?
To his credit, rock him off out of the southpaw stance, remained
aggressive, even fired back Dan Raphael in that second round and in the third
and fourth round coming right back at Cordina. This has to be in the
conversation. I'm not saying it is the fight of the year, but for
the first half of the year, this has got to be in the top
four or five fights of the first half of the year. Brow hotly contested
it was, and it turns out that it's a split decision win by one
point on the third and deciding card that wins it for Cordina, who lost
his title as we well documented with a hand injury and hand surgery, gets
the title right back by beating rock them all. This was a great fight.
Enough of me, Tell me more about what you thought and what you
saw of this one in Cardiff, Wales. Well, I was getting I
was getting set up in the arena when that fight had started. So when
I finally did get set up and I was able to log on to my
laptop and check out his zone, you know, I picked it up.
I want to say it about maybe like the fifth round or so something like
that, And I have to confess I wasn't paying like like enough attention where
I was scoring it on paper, but I was watching it, just enjoying
it. And actually I think at that time there was a lull in the
undercard in the arena, so it wasn't like there was another fight in the
ring that was distracting me necessarily for at least part of it, and it
was a hell of a fight, as you said, I mean, I
expected a tough, hard fight. I've watched Cordina, I've watched rock him
up a few times. I know he's tough as nails, got a good
chin, and they inflicted a lot of damage on each other. And obviously
Cordina came out looking much pressure, you know, rock Themof's face was all
bruised up and everything. But those guys, they laid it off all out.
They gave a great performance, a great show, very close fight as
you mentioned. But I you know, again, I didn't score the fight
on paper. For when I saw it, felt like Cordina was the winner,
you know, in a close manner, and that's exactly what happened.
And then when you put on top of the fact that he's fighting at home,
you know that there's a reason why they called home field advantage in baseball,
football, basketball, It's that case in boxing too. You got those
fans, they know the judges are humans. But I felt like it was
a hell of a fight, and and he should never have been stripped in
the first place. So what's sort of like we're back where we started.
In a way, he's the champions though in the IBF, and now he
moves on to whatever he's gonna do next. So a couple of big points
is that Cordina was certainly landing the harder right hands, but but rock him
off in the middle of the fight. Seventh round, he suffered a cut,
like you mentioned, his eyes starting to swell. He's battling back,
and he actually stunned Cordina a couple of times in in the ninth round in
particular, had him stunned. And then here we come to the dramatic finish.
And what do we keep talking about all the time? You've talked about
it for years. Go win the eleventh round, Go win the twelfth round
to make sure. And it was big that he won the eleventh round in
particular on all the cards, Cordina with some big uppercuts. There's a great
photo free plug by the way, on Bigfight Weekend dot Com in the recap
story of Cordina landing one of those uppercuts, which I think was probably in
that eleventh round. Then in the twelfth round, one judge gave it to
Cordina, but the other two gave it to rock him off. And this
would be big in the split decision because it narrowed the English judge Dan Rayfield
to a one point win. So he had Cordina up by two points going
to the final round, but he gave Rock him off the final round.
So that's interesting to make it a one point one fourteen one thirteen win.
And the knockdown is the difference on that card not being a draw one fourteen
one fourteen, then no one wins on the English judge card. The American
judge interestingly gave Rock them off eight of the rounds. I don't agree with
that on the scoring. The Polish judge gave Rock them off only five rounds.
Had it seven five or Cordina with the knockdown. And then one more
dramatic moment is whoever was conveying and transcribing over to the bouts sheet for David
Diamante to read as the as the PA announcer and for all the media to
see the bouts sheet, whoever was transcribing that from the cards made a math
error, Dan ray Field, and so there was a delay in the ring
and I kept I kept saying to you, there's a delay, there's something
going on with the scoring. And the math error was that person transcribing put
under Phil Edwards scorecard one sixteen one thirteen instead of one fourteen one thirteen,
and the math didn't add up, so they had to go back over every
round. Obviously, do the math. What's his card say? And it's
one fourteen one thirteen is what it was about. Go ahead. It didn't
change the outcome. I have seen I've seen fights where they announced a score
and they realized an error and it actually changed as a result. I mean,
there's a very famous example when h was a WBC lightweight title fight between
was the rematch between Stevie Johnston against Jose Louis Castillo, and uh, it
was in Stevie Johnson's hometown of Denver. He thought he had regained the title.
It turned out that from memory is correct, this is maybe I need
my memory is Castillo had taken the title from Stevie Johnson in the first place
when they had a rematch in Denver, Stevie's hometown. I guess they announced
him as the winner of the fight and they gave him the title back,
and then they realized after they went over the scorecards, in fact it was
a draw and they give the title back. So you said it would have
been drawn, nobody would have won. The reality is some boxing in a
draw, if you're the champion, it's really like a win, even if
it's dig because you've keep the title. And that's what happened in rock them
off. If they had been there that I got a more famous one.
I'm gonna make you smile our man, wink you right, one of my
all time favorite Where I'm coming. I just jawged you. He fought in
the UK and it's Herbie Hide. Do I get five on his points?
What's the name David Hide? No, David Hides the heavyweight. Who's the
who's the fighter? Anyway? They are now stop step stop. Herbie Hides
a fucking heavyweight, number one, a heavyweight. Well that's yeah. Winky
Wright had the controversial fight. I believe you're thinking of a fight that was
in Namibia in Africa against Harry Simon. Harry Simon, Okay, that sounds
right. They announced Winky as the winner. They celebrate, they do the
interviews, they're back in the locker room celebrating because Dan Birmingham told me it's
the most heartbreaking thing I've ever been through in my life. They come in
the room and tell him you didn't win. One of the cards is wrong
and we got to take the belt back from you. That literally happened on
a bad scorecard while we just digressed. Okay, so I didn't get the
name right off the top of I'm not as good off the top of my
head as you without looking at in the morning, and I'm coming up and
fucking that maybe a Harry and heard behind. What the fuck is wrong with
me? I know yet, because you are who you are. But again,
Cordina deserves a tremendous amount of credit because rock him Off was hanging in
there. I mean, you want to know how much this men, and
I texted this to you. Rock him off in tears in his corner after
the decision. I mean I'm not talking about a tear rolling down his cheek.
He is sobbing in the corner, holding on to one of his cornerman
and beside Freddie roach on how how badly he wanted to win this fight and
he lost by a one point split decision to lose the title. All Right,
so here's the thoughts. Give me your thoughts on I'm still stuck on
winky right against Harry Simon because that fight. I just as we're talking,
right, I looked it up if I was in nineteen ninety eight, that
fights twenty five years ago. And I have to tell because I don't think
a lot of people even know you mentioned Dan Birmingham. I know him,
you know him. I don't know if a lot of our listeners because you
know, he's not the commonest name in boxing these r Dan Birmingham as the
trainer for Winky Wright and one of the one of the top trainers from a
long time trained uh you know other fighters, Jeff Lacy, President Day c
Thurman, Yep, exactly. So that's who Dan Birmingham is. And Dan
is uh personally speaking, he's one of my favorite trainers. I've known that
story. But any but anyway, it was back to Cordina. Uh.
It's a great win for him against a good quality opponent. He should never
have lost the title in the first place. Now we've got it back and
uh, you know the we'll see what happens with him. I mean,
he's he's he's gonna he's a good draw, he's an exciting guy. He's
got an undefeated record. He was an Olympian with a great background he's now
gonna become or he is. I believe that with this title and having overcome
that very tough fight as well as the spectacular fight that he had previously against
odd would win the title in the first place before the hand injury and that
got him stripped. He's now got to be considered one of the stalwarts of
of the guys who are champions in the matchroom boxing stable because he checks the
boxes, world title, undefeated and a hometown crowd that will support him hand.
You know, from the point of view of non people that live in
Wales, he's exciting to watch. Who wouldn't want to watch Joe Cordina fight
And it was interesting in the post fight interview that he said this, and
I don't know how much you got to hear too, Eddie Hearn. I
got three questions for you, Eddie. The first one, have I earned
the stadium fight? He wants to fight in the stadium where they have had
world heavyweight title fights, Kalzagi has fought there. They were in the arena
that was electric in Cardiff and Eddie said yes, And he said, and
now are you buying me my Rolex? I want my Rolex And so that
Eddie's going we didn't have that arrangement for this fight. He goes, no
mate, gold gold facing rolex. He had him on the spot, Dan
that he wanted a gold gold facing rolex from Eddie Hearn after winning that,
so Cordinas stock definitely going up and Eddie did agree ed. He said,
Okay, I'll get you the rolex after this. I'm with you. I'm
with you, and game by the way, third time on the podcast,
we'll say, sign me up for Cordina, rock them off too if it's
a rematch. I don't know if it's the next fight for these two guys,
but that was highly entertaining and dramatic and at the end, for sure,
I'll tell you one thing. Nobody knows one hundred percent, but I'd
say it's one hundred and one percent that it won't be a rematch with rock
him up next, no chance or doing the next right, right right.
For one reason, they don't, They're not obligated to it, not take
money fight, relatively speaking, they don't. I'm gonna go back to a
phrase I've often used at this moment, and then we don't need that man
in our life, Rocky, Rocky, We don't need this man in our
lives. Okay, you're almost You're almost done. You're almost on the way
to the airport as Dan again is doing this before departing again against say leaving
Las Vegas, after Garcia and Davis, after Tank Davis's knockout win. Um,
do we even want to go here with the with the Don King Adrian
Broner pressor that neither one of them show up to what's the name of the
opponent. It's Hutchinson, right, that's the name of the hone it he
got me. He got off an all time classic zing where he is a
lawyer? Did you know this before? I didn't know this. He's a
lawyer and he said I'll represent Adrian Broner after this is all over with for
this whole mess, I'm like, this is phenomenal from the guy he's supposed
to fight. King doesn't show up and Broner doesn't show up to their own
press conference. What is give me more real quick? I'm gonna say this
and then we're moving on. I do not want to spend a lot of
time on this place. I obviously it was in Las Vegas. I was
invited to the press conference. Uh, the PR person that was involved who
I've known for forever, Ed Keenan, who's a does a great job,
has been working this event for Don and I said, Eddie a baby,
I love you. Man. I ain't coming to the press conference because to
go to a press conference on a Saturday morning of a major fight where you
know it's gonna be like a fifteen hour day, and I'm not complaining,
but I'm just right, I'm gonna give up my morning and I got all
things new to prepare for the fight, and you know all that, especially
when it wasn't even in the hotel we're all staying, so you gotta slept
over to the other hotel, which is a pain in the neck, and
then you're gonna sit through the long press covers. And honestly, I don't
give a shit about Adrian Broner fighting Bill Hutchinson. Who cares? Honestly,
I mean, I'm not I'm not knocking him, but they can. Apparently
Adrian doesn't care that much because he didn't show up. So here's the point.
So a couple of things about that. So I got another reminder of
press release that had a link to it. You could click the stream if
you wanted to watch press cover, so I figure, you know what,
I'll check it out for a couple of minutes and see what's going on,
even though if I'm not going to go over there. The stream wasn't working,
okay now, as I realized later on, and it said, you
know, come to the press covers Adrian Broner and Don King, you know,
breakfast to serve whatever. No thank you, But Don didn't show up.
But they knew about it on Thursday or Friday. I guess it wasn't
gonna show up. Apparently Don had some kind of I don't know if it
was his back, some kind of something that kept him from flying that the
doctor was like, don't fly, So he wasn't gonna show up. I
don't know who was going to take his place, because nobody can take Don's
King's place. But then Broner doesn't trump. It's his own god m event.
So if he doesn't give a shit, why should I care? I
mean, Adrian Broner, I mean, listen, he's got so many issues.
I don't wish bad on the guy at all. I wish him peace
and harmony in his life, but you can't not show up for your own
Prescurrants and as as my pal Jake Donovan from Boxing Scene tweeted, I thought
this was absolutely hilarious and if Jake is listening, God bless you for this
tweet. He said something to the effect of thoughts and prayers for those who
showed up for the don King Ajor and Broner Prescarmants. They weren't They didn't
bother to show up, you know, for those who wasted their time,
and there were people that went to cover it, you know, to take
video and to do things, and you know, it's just another example of
how and again there's so many times in this sport where boxing media is just
so utterly disrespected. We're big boys, but you know, if you're going
to be disrespectful to us, why are we going to be respectful to you?
Amen. All right, let's move on one final piece of nostalgia.
And we have talked about this before, and you even talk about it a
couple of weeks ago, about three weeks ago when the Hahmed Berrera fight happened,
that they were also filming the Ocean's eleven scenes for the robbery with the
Fictitious. At that time, Lennox Lewis Klitchko fight, and then a couple
of weeks later, Lennox Lewis was actually fighting against Hassim Rachman in South Africa.
All right, the twenty second anniversary was Saturday, April twenty second of
two thousand and one. We have talked about this on the press cont on
This Up podcast before, but we might as well bring it up just briefly
for this audience. You were not at that fight in the middle of the
night in South Africa. However, you got friends of yours tickets to be
able to go and see it. Just give me the quick version of how
that came about, because my god, they were part of a shocking heavyweight
one punch knockout upset of the of the world champion, Lennox Lewis. So,
I have one of my closest friends from why met in seventh grade and
we've been friends for all that time, And to say that she and her
husband are not sports fans is like an understatement they don't. I joke with
her sometimes like I don't know if you'd know the difference between a baseball and
a basketball not sports fans. Beautiful people not sports fans, which is fine
to each their own So they were working for a pharmaceutical company and they were
relocating to South Africa for a couple of years to do some work in that
particular area of where that company was, and they moved to Johannesburg about three
weeks. I want to if my memory served three weeks before the Rockman fight
against Lennox Lewis, and I had been speaking to Steve Nelson, who was
the longtime co manager of Hassim Rockman, and this is I must have been
doing a story before the fight. I was working at USA Today at the
time, and I remember Steve was like saying, oh my god, you
know we're going to you know, Rockman. I guess was already in South
Africa. He spent like a month there, I think, training before the
fight, and they were talking about how, you know, nobody's gonna be
there rooting for us where it's like that that me my partners, Dan Hoffman,
our promoter who at the time was Cedra Kushner Rockman and maybe like Rockman's
brother. They had nobody coming to the fight, and He's like, you
know, the funny thing is we ended up because of our contract. I
think they gave us like a dozen tickets. We don't have anybody to give
them to. That's how nobody's gonna be cheering for us. I go,
that's that's unfortunately, he goes. It's funny, you know, I have
actually and I just mentioned this because it was in the conversation. Say,
you know two of my two good friends of mine, my friend from high
school and and her husband, they literally just moved to South Africa, to
Johannesburg, you know, a few weeks ago. And he was like,
well, dud, they wanted to go to the fight. I was like,
seriously, I was like, well, let me, I'll ask.
Because he goes, he goes. Believe me, we have no use for
these tickets. We can't do anything with him. We have nobody coming to
support us, so they're just gonna go unused. I'll said, I'll ask.
You know, I thought, you know, they're they're they're adventurous,
maybe they'd be interested. Now the fight was taking place in this casino on
the out it's a Johannesburg, which is a place that's hosted plenty of boxing
events called what is it called in Kempton, Kempton Emperor's Palace. I want
to say or is that what it? I forget if that was the one.
In anyway, it's a it's a casino on the outskirts of Johannesburg.
In any event, I talked to my friend and I was like, listen,
I know you guys aren't sports fans, but there's a big boxing match.
It's taking place at this casino near where you guys are gonna be living,
probably like a half an hour from where they were heavyweight championship. I
mean, are there any interesting going to see a boxing match? And she
kind of thought for saying, it's like, you know, that actually sounds
pretty cool, Okay, So I said, you know, if it's if
it's no trouble, you know, put them down. So they went and
and remember the fight took place at normal American prime time ten thirty or so
at I in the United States, but for the live HBO broadcast, which
was paying the bulk of the money for the event, took place like five
in the morning. Rasberg I told her, I said, listen, just
so you know, it's not like you're gonna go to have dinner and then
go to the show. This is you know, the fights at like five
am. She said that actually makes it even more of like an adventure.
So you know, I've heard the story like driving across the savannah of of
South Africa to get to the casino. But anyway, so they go to
the fight, and I always remember this. I was watching in my part,
you know, in my townhouse in northern Virginia, and she called me
from the arena. You could hear the background noise, like the crowd,
Hey boy, we're having a great time. Who's winning. I'm like,
well, I was just like in between rounds, as you relate the story
before, it's in between rounds, before the knockout. I said, well,
you can't. It's boxing. You don't know who you can know if
you think you're watching, you can say who you think is winning, but
you actually know who's winning. Until two things happened. Either A they read
the scorecards after twelve rounds or b you see somebody laying on the canvas,
you know, as sort of joking and she's okay, So now two rounds
later or whatever. It was Rockman full, you know, just Knox Lennox
lewis into one of the men and he wins the heavyweight championship, one of
the biggest upsets in heavyweight history, a humongous event for boxing, and it
was. It was at the time, thought it was gonna completely derailed the
notion of Lennox Lewis against Mike Tyson, which was the biggest fight in the
world at that moment. I remember Rockman running around the rings screaming, no
more Lewis and Tyson, uh, like crazy, and then he wins the
title. Now they were on their way home. Now it's the middle of
night, but I was still away. She calls me again and tells me
like that was incredible, and I was, you know, it was a
lot of fun. Thank you for hooking it up. I said, do
you realize what you saw? I had to explain like you just saw.
I mean they understood, um, you know, uh intellectually we saw that
there's a new heavyweight champion. But I had to sort of impress on them
like that was not just any old like fight where a guy wins a belt
or whatever. This was like a huge upset and had you not a belt.
The heavyweight championship changed hands in a in a very dramatic manner, in
a highly unusual way, in an very exotic location for uh that era of
boxing and uh, you know. So, yeah, my friends went to
see the heavyweight championship, and as everybody knows, I'm a big boxing collector
of memorabilia, my requirement for the ticket and that requirement I was joking,
but I was like, kids, you get me a program and maybe a
poster. And they got me hooked up with my material and sent it off.
And so my Hassim Rockman, which I tweeted the other day and have
it in my I don't know if I put it in my newsletter, but
I tweeted a picture. You can check my Twitter or my Instagram or whatever.
The program from South Africa from Rockman Lewis one twenty two years ago on
Saturday. Amazing, amazing and a great story with all of that that you've
relaid now a couple of different times because of the story that you mentioned at
the top of this discussion about how he was in Las Vegas doing the Oceans
eleven movie when I saw how uninterested he was in fighting against Hassim Rockman,
as well as my good pal Emmanuel Stewart and Lennox Lewis's trainer, they were
much more interested in being movie stars. And as I have said before,
you know, being on the set of The Ocean's Love and Film for a
day because I was doing interviews with the Clitch right right. So when I
see Lennox lewis like in the commissary where they had it set up for all
the folks involved with the fight, and he's like eating doritos and being a
movie star. And Rockman's been in South Africa already for like three weeks,
you know, training in a cave at six thousand feet altitude. I made
what I still consider to this day. I mean, we pick fights every
single week on the beat Us Show. We pick fights every single week,
even if we're not doing a bet Us show. My greatest pick of my
entire time as a boxing reporter was picking Rockman buy knockout in that fighting you
called it, Hey one more. We did not rehearse this, And I
know you want to go because you're fatigue and you want to get to the
airport. But if I'm going in the chronology, Leon Spinks beats Muhammad Ali,
not a knockout, but he beats him. That was out of nowhere.
I mean, Spinks had been an Olympic champion, but that was out
of nowhere. It's for the heavyweight title. We moved forward to the all
time upset, which is Buster Douglas knocking out Mike Tyson. That's a knockout.
Then we moved forward to Andy Ruey besides this one knocking out Anthony Joshua
along with Rockman knocking out Lewis. Where does Dan Raypael rank. It's not
gonna beat Buster Douglas, but where does Dan Raphael rank the Rockman knockout versus
Ruise over Joshua and Spinks beating Ali. What would you what would you say
to that? I was a kid when the when the Ali Leon Spins thing
happened. I remember it because Leon Spinks became an overnight sensation and just you
know, he was on the cover of every magazine and every newspaper, at
every newscast, every TV program, you know, on every talk show at
etc. But I don't have like a good like memory of La. I
know it was an upset in my obviously studying boxing history, knowing how big
of a deal that was. Um Ali was older, they thought he was
gonna obviously get an easy one over Leon, the gold medal winner, But
it wasn't a dramatic kind of fight. It wasn't a knockout, So I
don't know if I can say that that would trump the other one and the
Ruise and Joshua fight which I was at. Obviously, that was a huge
That was a huge upset. I mean there was no doubt. I mean,
in fact, they fight that fight in New York City, either thought
you were in London because the entire Madison Square Garden was filled with British fans.
That was a huge upset. And I have covered basically not everyone.
I might have missed two or three over the years, but basically over the
last twenty three years, I've covered every single main event that's taken place in
the Madison Square Garden main arena, and I'm hard pressed to think of a
bigger upset that has taken place there. And I'm hard pressed to think of
a bigger upset that I've personally been a ringside. But it's hard to to
not pick Lewis Rockman. Now. I know it was an upset. I
didn't think it was gonna I thought that was what was gonna happen. I
mean, I really did pick Rockman to win the fight, But in the
larger picture, I have to say that was a bigger upset because Lewis was
more highly regarded, I believe than Joshua was when he lost. Andy Ruiz
was a former tie holder who even if he wasn't considered a great fighter,
still had respect from a lot of people. Rockman was considered at that time,
I think a journeyman ish, I mean, an exciting guy, you
know he wants some less some, but no, he was hand picked,
like from the beginning. I mean Andy took that fight as a late replacement
where they really have a choice but to find somebody to keep the show live.
But they purposely hand picked Rockman to take that fight, believing it was
an easy smoke, you know, just going to smoke them and then go
on to a Tyson fighter or whatever else was out there. So I guess
if I have to make the list, taking Buster and Tyson as being number
one, put that of course number one. I would say number two is
probably Rockman and Lewis because it was just supposed to be so easy, It
was so unexpected. It was the exoticness of doing it in Africa, doing
it and then you know, at five o'clock in the morning lent itself to
like just a much more dramatic situation. So I'll take that as number two
behind Buster and U and Tyson. That's why you are who you are.
Loved the nostalgia, and I think I think I agree with you just from
the standpoint you mentioned it. Anthony Joshua was not Lennox Lewis, and he
was not Mike Tyson, and my god, don't even it's not Muhammad Ali.
And one more thing on the Ali thing, And again I've on the
nostalgia and the history, gone back, looked and been around this on the
magnitude of that upset folks, I know it's nineteen seventy eight. I know
it's forty five years ago, and we did talk about it on the podcast
a few months ago. When the forty fifth anniversary happened. Ali had only
lost one time to Joe Frazier before he lost that night. He had won
like eighteen fights in a row. Before Leon Spinks beating that night, This
was the biggest story in the country, in the country for those worlds,
not just sports story now right, not just sports story. This was the
biggest story for a day or two in the country that Ali had been beaten
by Leon Spinks. But again, in my qualifier and Dan did a great
job. It was not a knockout. This was a one moment that you
remember forever type punch or knock out that Rockman landed. Yeah, I'll just
say one other thing. The other reason why I would rank Rockman's upset of
Lewis ahead of Joshua's lost to Andy Ruise is because when Rockman beat Lennox,
it was for the title. Besides belts, it was the lineal championship of
the world. And when Induris knocked out Anthony, Joshua had taken anything away
from it. He won three belts, but it wasn't a lineal title.
It was you know, he won the belts, but it wasn't like he
wasn't considered the champion. That was still Tyson Fury. All right, beautiful,
great stuff here on the nostalgia great stuff from Ringside with Jervonte Davis,
Ryan Garcia. Another Vegas weekend in the books. You have my permission to
decompressed for a few minutes. Go get through airport security, get your way
back to Northern Virginia and the FAM, and you and I will reconvene later
this week on All Things will read you on your Fight Freach Unite, substack
will read you on Big Fight week and dot com as well. Great job
for this weekend. Thank you Dan Raypheel for all of us. Get some
rest as well. My friend was a lot that we covered here on the
show. Alright, man, I will talk to you later. All right,
there is the one and only Dan Raypheel again. Thank you for finding
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For now, I'm TJ Reeves. Thanks for being with us for all
of the coverage of this weekend, that Davis knockout win, the great Pordino
rock them off fight, and even some nostalgia. We're good now on the
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