WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.399 --> 00:00:07.440 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and jagon Zalis on Fox Sports 2 00:00:07.480 --> 00:00:14.599 fourteen fifteen powered by Nova Insurance Services. Hey sure your most prized possessions KATCR 3 00:00:14.679 --> 00:00:19.519 two sad at iHeart Radio Station. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to I 4 00:00:19.679 --> 00:00:22.679 on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen Countie. I'm Steve Rivera, you're 5 00:00:22.760 --> 00:00:27.399 Jagonzos. It's Tuesday afternoon. You know the hot one. Obviously it is. 6 00:00:27.440 --> 00:00:29.440 Well, you know, I would barely know it. The only time 7 00:00:29.440 --> 00:00:32.399 I've been outside is to get in my get in and out of my car. 8 00:00:32.439 --> 00:00:35.119 That's it. That's the only reason. One of those things was very 9 00:00:35.159 --> 00:00:38.200 early this morning. Run to the car, Get in the car, turn 10 00:00:38.200 --> 00:00:41.560 these get here running here. You're sure you have shoes on because the crowd. 11 00:00:42.200 --> 00:00:44.640 Yeah yeah, that's why I want to get the hick out of town. 12 00:00:45.039 --> 00:00:47.920 Um. Hey, we'll see what happens today. We have a good 13 00:00:47.960 --> 00:00:51.320 show, a kind of a crazy for such for today show. Yeah. 14 00:00:51.399 --> 00:00:55.119 Yeah, nice. We're gonna have Justin Justin Beer. You know, it's 15 00:00:55.159 --> 00:00:58.079 kind of fun because you know, with Justin now doing his show in the 16 00:00:58.119 --> 00:01:00.600 morning, you know he can come on our show. We go on his 17 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:04.359 show. Um Exchange stuff. Um, I've always been very friendly with Justin, 18 00:01:04.959 --> 00:01:07.920 so it's kind of cool that he's our little kid and he's yeah, 19 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:11.840 he's sort of a sort of a surrogate child of both of us. So 20 00:01:11.560 --> 00:01:15.480 uh and but he's you know, on the middle of all the u of 21 00:01:15.560 --> 00:01:18.799 a football stuff. He's the beat writer for airzon a Football now for the 22 00:01:18.799 --> 00:01:22.359 airs in a daily Star. So we'll just get his take on on a 23 00:01:22.400 --> 00:01:25.480 few things. You know, they're just things starting to churn a little bit 24 00:01:25.519 --> 00:01:27.319 here in the summertime, and uh, you know, we're getting close to 25 00:01:27.359 --> 00:01:33.359 a deadline on on the TV deal and the expansion with the Pac twelve at 26 00:01:33.400 --> 00:01:36.200 Sandios dates. We'll just see what he's thinking about some of that stuff. 27 00:01:36.280 --> 00:01:40.159 Yeah, and then unless I can get to a Josh Pastor you may remember 28 00:01:40.239 --> 00:01:42.680 him, right, it was on a Tucson's Favorite Son or one of them. 29 00:01:42.719 --> 00:01:45.480 Yeah, the guy who got here and thought, you just win a 30 00:01:45.560 --> 00:01:49.400 national championship every year, right, right, And and he was never afraid 31 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:55.319 of a TV camera, right. He's you know again, when he was 32 00:01:55.400 --> 00:01:59.879 here as a as a you know, as an assistant and a grad assistant, 33 00:01:59.879 --> 00:02:02.000 you just knew he was going to be successful in this Yeah, even 34 00:02:02.040 --> 00:02:05.560 though he wasn't a great basketball, but it was good enough to walk on 35 00:02:05.599 --> 00:02:08.120 at Arizona and you know played a little so he's a better basketball than most. 36 00:02:08.199 --> 00:02:13.840 But you know, you knew that the way he first of all, 37 00:02:13.879 --> 00:02:17.560 how hard he worked right, just the way he conducted himself. He let 38 00:02:17.560 --> 00:02:20.639 me tell you that you knew he was gonna he was gonna do well. 39 00:02:20.759 --> 00:02:23.039 Mike Bibby and some of those other guys swear by him. You know why. 40 00:02:23.439 --> 00:02:28.759 He was a win that was rebounding for them when they weren't practicing right, 41 00:02:28.840 --> 00:02:30.319 doing the work that other guys didn't want to do right. And that's 42 00:02:30.360 --> 00:02:34.319 why you know he's been ahead a head coach at too what you know, 43 00:02:34.599 --> 00:02:38.759 uh Division one Universe. He's both at Memphis and at Georgia Tech. Recently 44 00:02:38.759 --> 00:02:42.479 got fired, but you know he's gonna land somewhere. Somebody's gonna take him 45 00:02:42.520 --> 00:02:46.400 on as an assistant one. He's probably you probably continue to be an ace 46 00:02:46.479 --> 00:02:51.360 recruiter, enthusiast, a guy who can do good stuff for your program. 47 00:02:51.639 --> 00:02:53.680 Right, I'm not will see what he's gonna do. In the meantime, 48 00:02:53.800 --> 00:02:57.680 I still think that he would be a good TV analyst and those basketball analysts. 49 00:02:57.800 --> 00:03:01.400 Is straightforward, good with an assist, friendly half, all that stuff. 50 00:03:01.479 --> 00:03:05.439 Yeah, so we'll talk to him about all that stuff in the second 51 00:03:05.439 --> 00:03:08.240 hour. Um got to join us here. I had a I had a 52 00:03:08.280 --> 00:03:16.039 not a correction after just screwing up that David Derek Jeter. Uh what's it 53 00:03:16.120 --> 00:03:20.599 that address? But his age? Remember that guy. I was trying to 54 00:03:20.599 --> 00:03:23.080 tell you that that this I was telling Troy, that's that guy. You 55 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:30.479 know. He's been offered and offered Luke Farrelli Farrelli. He Stanford offered him 56 00:03:30.879 --> 00:03:34.960 and apparently in that time, Texas A and N has offered him. So 57 00:03:35.879 --> 00:03:38.360 he was away commit. So hold on, hold your hats. Yeah, 58 00:03:38.479 --> 00:03:42.360 how do you know when those types of school start chasing you? Hey, 59 00:03:42.560 --> 00:03:46.280 good luck luck. I mean you know what, I'm not gonna I'm not 60 00:03:46.360 --> 00:03:52.439 gonna uh be upset at any body. Oh it's committed somewhere and it gets 61 00:03:52.439 --> 00:03:54.879 offered by Stanford. Yeah no, it's not right, right, right, 62 00:03:54.879 --> 00:03:59.879 It's funny maybe, but Stanford. Right, you know, but like like 63 00:04:00.039 --> 00:04:05.039 when uh the kid from my cdeou oh Martinez, yeah, Blake Martine, 64 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:10.400 I get it. You know, people people got upset that that Mike Stews 65 00:04:10.840 --> 00:04:14.159 really didn't recruit him, but even if he had, he was going to 66 00:04:14.199 --> 00:04:17.839 stand. You know, John Bolpi is another guy local kid ended up as 67 00:04:17.879 --> 00:04:21.920 Yeah, it reminds me of the time. Recruiting must have been late nineties, 68 00:04:21.920 --> 00:04:27.879 mid nineties. The Collins Twins member Jason Jon, Arizona and Stanford were 69 00:04:27.920 --> 00:04:30.959 the finalists. Uh, and I would talk, you know, you chase 70 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:34.319 down people. I talked to Collins mom. You gotta get to the mom 71 00:04:34.439 --> 00:04:39.160 I went to talk to that morning. Is okay missus Collins? What okay? 72 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:41.399 They're going to stand? Why would they decide that? You know, 73 00:04:41.519 --> 00:04:46.399 probably didn't ask it like that, Steve, I'm a parent, and they're 74 00:04:46.439 --> 00:04:48.720 now going to play basketball all their lives. Where else would you want to 75 00:04:48.720 --> 00:04:53.160 go? But Stanford. That's a good point, very good Thanks for talking 76 00:04:53.160 --> 00:04:55.560 to me, very good point. And and that was my story. No, 77 00:04:55.720 --> 00:04:59.360 I mean, it's it's no pine intended. It's a no brainer, 78 00:04:59.560 --> 00:05:03.639 right taking you know, taking Stanford over Arizona, you know, just about 79 00:05:03.680 --> 00:05:08.720 any reason. Yeah, reason why, it's uh, the reason why. 80 00:05:09.120 --> 00:05:13.279 And this is maybe a dumb question. Maybe last will come up close enough 81 00:05:13.959 --> 00:05:15.839 that they would be better in basketball. And I know it's tough. I 82 00:05:15.839 --> 00:05:18.079 know, it's a tough school to get into and all that stuff. But 83 00:05:18.079 --> 00:05:21.000 but under under Montgomery, they were they were still really good. They were 84 00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:24.879 pretty was able to get guys. They were the second best team in the 85 00:05:24.879 --> 00:05:28.000 West. Yeah most of the time. Yeah, got to the final four. 86 00:05:28.519 --> 00:05:30.279 Yeah, the year that Arizona was supposed to win it. All right, 87 00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:34.439 So no, I I think you uh uh, you know, you 88 00:05:34.519 --> 00:05:40.079 gotta look, you know, the darned I guess. You know, we 89 00:05:40.160 --> 00:05:44.480 get athletes get caught up in the idea that there be a professional athlete. 90 00:05:44.839 --> 00:05:46.439 But you you know, you got to look at big picture and yeah, 91 00:05:46.480 --> 00:05:50.040 you know, look if Arizona and as U and whoever comes calling, Okay, 92 00:05:50.319 --> 00:05:56.279 you decide where were we're best athletically? Stanford comes calling, you know, 93 00:05:56.480 --> 00:05:59.360 even Duke Sure comes calling. Sure, you know, you say, 94 00:05:59.519 --> 00:06:01.439 I got to think about a little bit more than um. I wanted to 95 00:06:01.519 --> 00:06:06.560 talk about that and oh, h two sons a little poter. I wanted 96 00:06:06.560 --> 00:06:09.800 to bring that up because you know, I mean, are you know, 97 00:06:10.439 --> 00:06:14.120 are you know? Are you better? You know? People here better because 98 00:06:14.240 --> 00:06:17.360 j Johnson won a national championship, and you know, because of the way 99 00:06:17.399 --> 00:06:20.079 he left her, you just better that he left. Let me ask you 100 00:06:20.120 --> 00:06:24.279 this because I saw I don't know if it was David Kelly, saw somebody 101 00:06:24.279 --> 00:06:27.879 posted something. So he was in Uh, he was in Nevada the twenty 102 00:06:28.079 --> 00:06:30.600 fourteen right. Uh. They win the whack a year later or whatever it 103 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:36.920 was. And then do you think Avada is better? We know? Again? 104 00:06:39.279 --> 00:06:41.959 Yeah, I mean they if if they they, yeah, I bet 105 00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:46.399 some of them are, but they shouldn't be anymore than I think better exactly, 106 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:47.759 you know. And they said, well it's the way he left. 107 00:06:47.759 --> 00:06:51.279 Well he left, you know, get over that part of it. You 108 00:06:51.319 --> 00:06:55.040 know, he left for a better job. And you know what, and 109 00:06:55.240 --> 00:06:58.800 if if if LSU was calling the shots and say, look, Jake, 110 00:06:59.199 --> 00:07:00.319 I know you're at the call or series and you got your team here, 111 00:07:01.000 --> 00:07:03.279 but if we don't talk to you today, we're gonna go talk to this 112 00:07:03.279 --> 00:07:08.759 guy. Right. And that may have been a threat, but he made 113 00:07:08.759 --> 00:07:11.920 it right. We all make those choices. Man. We live in a 114 00:07:12.319 --> 00:07:15.800 better and a better for you run for the money. I did, yeah, 115 00:07:15.120 --> 00:07:17.399 in one of my jobs. No, and there's no blame that. 116 00:07:17.480 --> 00:07:20.560 And who do you have to say it's hard here? Nobody, absolutely no, 117 00:07:20.560 --> 00:07:25.519 nobody, absolutely no no. But I have no issues with Jay Johnson 118 00:07:26.120 --> 00:07:30.120 going to LA I mean, I didn't like it, but I'm not and 119 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:33.360 be pissed off at him winning the national championship. You know, well, 120 00:07:33.399 --> 00:07:36.319 because that's what he's supposed to do. It's like we had leve On yesterday 121 00:07:36.360 --> 00:07:42.680 the day before, and he must be very good at what he does. 122 00:07:42.920 --> 00:07:46.360 I mean, you don't fall into his situation and and and take Arizona to 123 00:07:46.560 --> 00:07:49.600 the championship second year or whatever, first year, first year and do all 124 00:07:49.639 --> 00:07:54.480 these great things and go here even though it's a fantastic school and a powerful 125 00:07:54.519 --> 00:07:59.720 baseball school, because you have to have some magician, you still have to 126 00:07:59.720 --> 00:08:03.639 be very very and make it and make it. The kids got to believe 127 00:08:03.639 --> 00:08:05.000 in you, and they believe in him, right. I mean, just 128 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:07.800 because they hand you the keys to the Ferrari doesn't mean no, no, 129 00:08:07.800 --> 00:08:11.399 no, no, how to drive fer We've seen we've seen a coach's uh 130 00:08:13.040 --> 00:08:15.720 wrecked the car before. Yeah, no, they do, and they do 131 00:08:15.759 --> 00:08:18.800 it all the time. But hey, did you beat In Puts anything socially? 132 00:08:18.839 --> 00:08:20.720 I was gonna ask you that off the air, but I didn't. 133 00:08:20.480 --> 00:08:24.639 No, no numbers, our numbers. Oh okay, so we'll just we're 134 00:08:24.680 --> 00:08:28.399 just you want to just talk about it. So we'll we'll talk more about 135 00:08:28.439 --> 00:08:31.240 Johnson little down road. I know, I got a few people saying I'm 136 00:08:31.279 --> 00:08:35.360 still better and I was going to be better. Okay they are, Okay, 137 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:37.679 I enjoy you, my daughters. That she's the one that kind of 138 00:08:37.759 --> 00:08:45.759 kes just relax. Which one chel I love? Rachel? Tell her, 139 00:08:45.799 --> 00:08:46.879 tell her, tell her, Rachel. If you're listening to us a lot 140 00:08:46.879 --> 00:08:50.720 of she's the boss, take care of you boss. Smart woman. Yeah, 141 00:08:50.919 --> 00:08:54.960 smart woman, she's not a girl, very smart for ye for twenty 142 00:08:56.000 --> 00:08:58.600 two years. Yeah. But yeah, So anyways, so I'm getting to 143 00:08:58.639 --> 00:09:01.799 our numbers. You know we um I didn't. I didn't know any of 144 00:09:01.879 --> 00:09:05.159 this. You didn't know, I didn't. You know, we we we're 145 00:09:05.240 --> 00:09:11.919 able to track our podcast how many people listen to it? Uh? And 146 00:09:11.080 --> 00:09:18.360 uh you know we're because of you know those radio books. We don't record 147 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:20.919 on that. I mean, we're not not us, not ESPN Radio, 148 00:09:22.039 --> 00:09:26.720 not David Kelly show. Nobody you know has big enough numbers to even register 149 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:31.399 when you do the Nielsen books. Now, there are ways of finding out 150 00:09:31.399 --> 00:09:33.639 who with technology, who who you know, who listens to us when we're 151 00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:37.639 live, But we don't get that stuff. Daily we do get daily is 152 00:09:37.679 --> 00:09:43.840 how many people pull and listen to the podcast. And uh, we're bringing 153 00:09:43.840 --> 00:09:46.600 this up because if you're you know, if you're somebody who doesn't get to 154 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:50.399 listen to us every day or work or whatever, it helps If you listen 155 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:52.879 to our podcast, it helps us, It helps us go get advertiser, 156 00:09:52.960 --> 00:09:56.879 it helps us keep this show going, it helps us with a lot of 157 00:09:56.879 --> 00:10:01.919 things. We found out this week that BA basically twice as many people are 158 00:10:01.919 --> 00:10:07.440 picking up our podcasts then they were doing at this time last week. Right, 159 00:10:07.600 --> 00:10:11.320 but the numbers even no, I was telling people I think maybe five 160 00:10:11.399 --> 00:10:13.919 hundred people and then five hundred people on the podcast. I was way off. 161 00:10:15.039 --> 00:10:22.559 No, the the numbers are that we we're getting about on average per 162 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:26.639 month in a given month, we're getting between twenty five hundred and three thousand 163 00:10:26.639 --> 00:10:31.039 people listening to us in a given month. That's that's just on Oh yeah, 164 00:10:31.039 --> 00:10:33.399 I take back that was those are the those are the those are the 165 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:39.200 old numbers. Now we're putting pretty much over three thousand regularly. Uh so 166 00:10:39.200 --> 00:10:43.159 far as a as a Monday in the month of June, we were thirty 167 00:10:43.240 --> 00:10:48.120 nine hundred people had had listened to our podcast in some form or another does 168 00:10:48.200 --> 00:10:52.960 not include right. And that's a big number because that doesn't include if you're 169 00:10:54.000 --> 00:10:56.559 on if you're on the iHeart app listening to us right now, that doesn't 170 00:10:56.600 --> 00:11:01.120 include that number, doesn't include the number if you're listening to us on fourteen 171 00:11:01.240 --> 00:11:05.039 fifty and and and the bigger thing there is are numbers that numbers have basically 172 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:11.480 doubled since last year. And for the month of June, they've tripled. 173 00:11:11.879 --> 00:11:18.759 We only we were two hundred percent over yeah, uh, June of twenty 174 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:20.279 two. Yeah, and that doesn't include like I said, alive and you 175 00:11:20.320 --> 00:11:24.799 said that people in Zimbabwe are listening to us. Yeah, I mean they're 176 00:11:24.840 --> 00:11:26.960 you know, you look at whatever tell it. Tell us where they're listening 177 00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:31.240 to us. You're gonna you're gonna laugh at this folks out there. But 178 00:11:31.080 --> 00:11:35.600 obviously, you know, the vast majority of listeners are coming from uh, 179 00:11:35.720 --> 00:11:39.480 from uh, you know, within the United States. Mexico is the second, 180 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:46.080 right, so those people. But guess who's tried with Mexico India. 181 00:11:46.320 --> 00:11:48.320 There's somebody in India who's listening to us all the time. They're trying to 182 00:11:48.320 --> 00:11:52.039 sell me a car. I mean, we're getting you know, we're getting 183 00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:56.399 listeners, and we're getting listeners in Bangladesh, we're getting listeners in you know, 184 00:11:56.440 --> 00:12:00.360 all over you know, all over the world, and and it's it's 185 00:12:00.440 --> 00:12:03.559 kind of cool because you know, we just it's just I don't know, 186 00:12:03.679 --> 00:12:07.960 you just uh, because of the way it is now, you just don't 187 00:12:09.080 --> 00:12:11.919 expect that, right. It used to be that you can only hear a 188 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:16.639 show if you were within twenty five miles of where the show was. But 189 00:12:16.759 --> 00:12:18.039 you know, now we're in a situation where, you know, people can 190 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:22.240 listen to us all over the world. You know, maybe somebody's traveling and 191 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:24.440 they're listening to us. We know, we've got a listener, Bill who 192 00:12:24.679 --> 00:12:28.360 travels a lot. You know, he listens to us wherever we are. 193 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:31.679 But I don't know how much international travel he does. He doesn't, He 194 00:12:31.759 --> 00:12:33.919 just dust it. But he was in Florida the other day and Hawaii and 195 00:12:33.960 --> 00:12:37.840 all that stuff, so he listened to us almost daily. Yeah, so 196 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:43.759 it's it's been a very stret thing that we can. We can well, 197 00:12:43.759 --> 00:12:46.919 we've come a long way since we have. We're finishing up our third year 198 00:12:46.279 --> 00:12:48.840 at this station. I mean, let me, let me just say no, 199 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:50.919 I don't want to bring us down. But when we were, when 200 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:56.039 we were at that other station for a few months that we were when when 201 00:12:56.080 --> 00:13:01.720 I started, we were getting six hundred listeners a month. We're getting four 202 00:13:01.759 --> 00:13:05.879 thousand in the month of in the month of June. So the one we 203 00:13:05.000 --> 00:13:09.759 thank everybody for who who who's helping us do that. We feel like it 204 00:13:09.759 --> 00:13:15.799 it's kind of validating that we're you know, we're that you want to listen 205 00:13:15.840 --> 00:13:18.960 to and that that you continue to listen to us. So we do appreciate 206 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:22.679 that. Yeah, I just don't test us with names. Old time names 207 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:28.159 fine, but not recent names because we fail. I finally got to log 208 00:13:28.200 --> 00:13:31.480 into it to where some of our statistics are. But um, looking at 209 00:13:31.519 --> 00:13:37.559 looking at the locations here, it is um Mexico, India, Argentina, 210 00:13:37.720 --> 00:13:43.519 Spain, France, Germany, Venezuela, Bangladesh, Brazil, Canada, Switzerland, 211 00:13:43.519 --> 00:13:48.200 Colombia, Dominican Republic, Algeria. With Algeria sticks in my mind because 212 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:52.120 of I just saw that movie Dog Day Afternoon. You see that movie Alpaccino 213 00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:54.759 and he holds some ostages and he wants to fly him to Algeria. Well, 214 00:13:54.720 --> 00:13:58.799 they'd have been able to get to listen to us Ecuador, Fiji, 215 00:14:00.399 --> 00:14:05.840 a country I've never even heard of. Gabon right, the UK, Indonesia, 216 00:14:05.960 --> 00:14:09.799 Israel, Kenya, South Korea, allows North Macedonia, and then four 217 00:14:09.840 --> 00:14:13.879 others. Who are the others that Checko Putin? Checko Putin was listening to 218 00:14:13.919 --> 00:14:16.519 us when he cood last week. I don't yeah, yeah, you know, 219 00:14:16.679 --> 00:14:20.720 I don't see any of Ukraine's Okay, I don't. He was, 220 00:14:20.919 --> 00:14:22.159 he was in Ukraine, but he was busy over there, and I don't 221 00:14:22.159 --> 00:14:26.720 see any I don't see any Russia either. Maybe they don't maybe we're not 222 00:14:26.759 --> 00:14:31.720 allowed over there. But anyways, again, thanks to everybody to us. 223 00:14:31.240 --> 00:14:33.919 Uh yes. And then if you're if you're a business and you have some 224 00:14:33.960 --> 00:14:37.519 interest in advertising with us and getting some of this visibility, would love to 225 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:43.320 Yes. You can find our contact information on our on our Facebook and Twitter 226 00:14:43.480 --> 00:14:46.960 counts on twitter page. 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We'll put the work 292 00:19:48.799 --> 00:19:55.960 in for you. Breaking down all the xs at als. It's Steve Rivera 293 00:19:56.119 --> 00:20:02.920 and Jagen Summits. This is I on the Ball Sports fourteen. Hey, 294 00:20:02.920 --> 00:20:04.440 welcome back to I on the Ball here. I'll Fox Sports fourteen. Cookie. 295 00:20:04.640 --> 00:20:07.119 I'm Steve Rivera and he's Jakin's Austin. Now on the phone, we 296 00:20:07.160 --> 00:20:12.480 have justin Spears from the eras of Arizona, Gaining Star and some other radio 297 00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:19.599 stations whatever that is justin. How the heck are you guy? You you're 298 00:20:19.680 --> 00:20:25.319 up and around. Yeah, no, it's I'm trying to stay cool. 299 00:20:25.400 --> 00:20:27.359 Man. Uh yeah, I don't know if you guys have been outside recently, 300 00:20:27.400 --> 00:20:32.119 but a man, it's hotter than the Devil's toneas. Yeah. Yeah, 301 00:20:32.240 --> 00:20:34.279 yeah they don't. They don't haven't made tunnels for us yet to get 302 00:20:34.319 --> 00:20:37.759 from the house to hear so, yeah, we had to get outside, 303 00:20:37.759 --> 00:20:40.920 did suck. They don't get old too. When you get older, it 304 00:20:41.000 --> 00:20:45.880 sucks. The hot weather exactly exactly. So you know what, I can't 305 00:20:45.880 --> 00:20:51.920 complain about the weather right now because as a guy who has recently been addicted 306 00:20:51.960 --> 00:20:56.640 to golfing, Um, to me, this is amazing because I'm I love 307 00:20:56.759 --> 00:21:02.279 golf and I'm a cheap skate. So when you live in Arizona this time 308 00:21:02.279 --> 00:21:04.039 of year is perfect for me. I love it. It's it's dirt cheap. 309 00:21:04.200 --> 00:21:10.079 It's dirt cheap. We've played, uh, played uh Arizona Nashville for 310 00:21:10.079 --> 00:21:14.799 forty bucks last Saturday and beat that man. Can't beating it at all. 311 00:21:15.079 --> 00:21:18.559 So you're you're you're the football dude now and we know we've known that for 312 00:21:18.559 --> 00:21:21.880 a little bit, but we saw that your buddy Michael lev is now a 313 00:21:21.960 --> 00:21:25.400 columnist, so you'll be working side by side with him as opposed to having 314 00:21:25.480 --> 00:21:27.640 him be your boss. But uh, you know, you guys are you 315 00:21:27.640 --> 00:21:32.359 know it's coming up right, We're just a couple of months away before stuff 316 00:21:32.400 --> 00:21:36.359 starts to happen. So what just kind of what's what are some of your 317 00:21:37.440 --> 00:21:40.759 impressions of kind of where things are right now? You know, Jet's still 318 00:21:40.759 --> 00:21:42.759 bring you know, he's lying in up a bunch of recruits and stuff like 319 00:21:42.839 --> 00:21:47.599 that. Guys working out, and what is your sense of how things are 320 00:21:47.599 --> 00:21:52.960 going down at at the Lowe at the Lowell Stevens facility, for sure. 321 00:21:52.160 --> 00:21:56.680 And I'm really excited about taking on this this new role. Um. You 322 00:21:56.720 --> 00:22:03.640 know, I've been working with Lev now for i mean almost six years, 323 00:22:03.680 --> 00:22:06.960 and we've always been working side by side. So it's got it's gonna be 324 00:22:07.000 --> 00:22:08.599 weird. It's like nothing has really changed, you know, Him and I 325 00:22:08.680 --> 00:22:12.359 are still going to be you know, teammates and partners. It's just I'm 326 00:22:12.400 --> 00:22:15.839 going to be you know, focused on you know, covering the bulk of 327 00:22:15.880 --> 00:22:19.400 this team, if you will. And Lev will be the guy who fills 328 00:22:19.440 --> 00:22:23.759 in the cracks and also the guy who uses his voice and his you know, 329 00:22:23.839 --> 00:22:29.279 extensive knowledge of college football and write the big picture, right, the 330 00:22:29.279 --> 00:22:33.079 big story that everyone is talking about. And I think Lev is very excited 331 00:22:33.119 --> 00:22:37.680 for that role. And I'm just excited to get cracking and start covering this 332 00:22:37.759 --> 00:22:38.880 team. You know, I started, you know, I followed theirs on 333 00:22:38.880 --> 00:22:42.359 a football you know, my entire life growing up here in Tucson. So 334 00:22:42.960 --> 00:22:45.599 this is a new role. I'm and I hope that you know, Tucson 335 00:22:45.880 --> 00:22:49.880 is pleased with my coverage because I'm gonna do everything I can to give you 336 00:22:49.880 --> 00:22:55.039 guys the best. But um, as far as the football program going, 337 00:22:55.279 --> 00:23:00.279 I think that you know, this is officially the year where we could really 338 00:23:00.400 --> 00:23:06.000 judge Jetfish and everything that he's done with this program, because you know, 339 00:23:06.319 --> 00:23:11.720 when Kevin Sumlin left Man, he left the cupboards very bare. There was 340 00:23:11.799 --> 00:23:17.400 really nothing in the kitchen for Fish to work with. And then you know, 341 00:23:17.440 --> 00:23:19.359 that's why you went one eleven Arizona starting a bunch of walk ons and 342 00:23:19.400 --> 00:23:23.759 they just didn't really have the talent. And then you know, with the 343 00:23:23.799 --> 00:23:32.960 trans reportal and also the high school recruiting trail, Jetfish used his clout, 344 00:23:33.200 --> 00:23:37.200 if you will, the buzz that he got from working in the NFL and 345 00:23:37.279 --> 00:23:41.599 working for so many coaches and putting a bunch of guys on staff that have 346 00:23:41.759 --> 00:23:45.519 worked in the NFL and have worked on the West Coast and has worked for 347 00:23:45.599 --> 00:23:51.480 great colleges. That was able to attract a lot of you know, players, 348 00:23:51.640 --> 00:23:56.400 high profile players, players that Arizona wasn't able to get in several years. 349 00:23:56.839 --> 00:24:00.440 And the transport again was key. They were able to get a quarterback 350 00:24:00.440 --> 00:24:03.680 in Jaden Delora, they got the Jacob Cowing, they got the Tanna McLachlan, 351 00:24:03.759 --> 00:24:07.000 they transfer from Southern Utah, and they were able to figure it out 352 00:24:07.039 --> 00:24:11.960 and put it together on offense. Now they used the last year getting all 353 00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:17.960 the guys on defense. When we come together like the offense, that's kind 354 00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:22.039 of a tough ass because you know, the offense was rated six in the 355 00:24:22.160 --> 00:24:26.720 nation and packing. I'm not expecting the defense to the world beaters here, 356 00:24:26.759 --> 00:24:30.359 but I think the defense is significantly better than it was last year. And 357 00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:33.720 if they can stop the run, that's that's either if there was on the 358 00:24:33.799 --> 00:24:40.599 defense can just stop the run and be average or in the top half in 359 00:24:40.599 --> 00:24:44.319 that category. I think the Wildcats are going to be in position to win 360 00:24:44.920 --> 00:24:48.799 at least six games, but maybe even seven or eight. Okay, so 361 00:24:48.119 --> 00:24:52.759 we're gonna go to that because Steve and I just yesterday laid down a little 362 00:24:52.759 --> 00:24:56.000 wager. Steve thinks they're going to go five and seven. I think they're 363 00:24:56.000 --> 00:24:59.640 going to get at least get to six. So we've got a little wager 364 00:24:59.720 --> 00:25:02.599 on we're basically going five and a half. He's taking the under. We'll 365 00:25:02.599 --> 00:25:06.240 also realize that who's the realist in this rule here. I'm not a fan. 366 00:25:07.519 --> 00:25:10.559 I'm not a fan. Didn't go to school here. Um. And 367 00:25:10.599 --> 00:25:12.559 I know they're gonna be better. I mean they're gonna be better. They've 368 00:25:12.559 --> 00:25:15.359 been better in the last couple of years. I won't deny that. But 369 00:25:15.359 --> 00:25:18.440 but I also here's my theory. Other teams are going to get better as 370 00:25:18.440 --> 00:25:22.119 well. They're not sitting in idol. Uh. And I know there's radio 371 00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:26.960 shows all over all over the country, especially in college towns that we go 372 00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:29.960 to, and they're saying the same thing. Those teams that they cover are 373 00:25:29.960 --> 00:25:33.640 getting better too. Colorado's thinking you're gonna get better, Utah's getting better. 374 00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:36.720 All these you know schools, all corvallis YadA YadA. Um. So that's 375 00:25:36.759 --> 00:25:40.839 my Theah, that's my theory. Well, every Stone's they can apply themselves, 376 00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:45.039 but so can other teams for sure. But I also think that you 377 00:25:45.079 --> 00:25:49.480 know, a program like Colorado while they had the trans reportal and Beyon standers 378 00:25:49.519 --> 00:25:52.880 and bringing his Louisa ton Buggage over it, right, that's red all the 379 00:25:53.160 --> 00:25:57.119 right right, the current team. When he got the Boulder in the spring, 380 00:25:57.200 --> 00:26:00.039 he said, you know, you guys going that trans report because I'm 381 00:26:00.039 --> 00:26:04.720 bringing my luggage, an't Louis, But even the Louis Vaton luggage that he's 382 00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:07.480 bringing this year, it's not going to solve all of Colorado's problems. They 383 00:26:07.480 --> 00:26:11.240 still went one and eleven last year, so I think that Colorado is there 384 00:26:11.240 --> 00:26:15.960 gonna be much better this year. But I still like Arizona to go up 385 00:26:15.960 --> 00:26:19.960 to Boulder and beat the Buffaloes. You know, ASU with Kenny Dillingham, 386 00:26:21.160 --> 00:26:25.200 you know, there's just a lot of newness there, and I think that 387 00:26:25.279 --> 00:26:30.839 ASU will definitely be bing building. And I like Arizona going up to Tempe 388 00:26:30.839 --> 00:26:33.000 and also beating them, and you know that that's two conference wins right there. 389 00:26:33.359 --> 00:26:37.480 And then you look at non conference play and you got NAU. You 390 00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:41.400 can win that game, and then you know Mississippi State is going to be 391 00:26:41.799 --> 00:26:45.480 a tough ask as well. But I just I think that when it's all 392 00:26:45.519 --> 00:26:49.720 said and done, Arizona will go into Pac twelve play with a two and 393 00:26:49.839 --> 00:26:52.960 one non conference record, and those two opponents, like I just said, 394 00:26:53.000 --> 00:26:56.480 I think those are games that Arizona should win. And then you get a 395 00:26:56.480 --> 00:27:00.480 couple more somewhere in between. Like I said, I think at right now, 396 00:27:02.039 --> 00:27:04.960 six wins is safe. But if the defense can figure it out, 397 00:27:06.200 --> 00:27:10.279 and that's a big if. If they do and they get off the field 398 00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:15.279 on third down and they stopped the runs, we could be looking at Arizona 399 00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:18.480 being a seven win team. Because think about this, guys. Last year, 400 00:27:19.960 --> 00:27:23.160 what would you say was the one game that could have put Arizona in 401 00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:32.880 full convention? Honestly, I think I think it's easily the Cow game because 402 00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:37.440 they were on the road, they had to had Cow on the roads and 403 00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:41.559 then all of a sudden, Kadea Not goes bow Jackson tech mobile and becomes 404 00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:47.319 unstoppable. Arizona couldn't stop the run in that game and Cow running all over 405 00:27:47.400 --> 00:27:49.680 them. That was the difference maker in the game. Arizona. They were 406 00:27:49.680 --> 00:27:52.880 going to win that game. Data Not starts running all over the place. 407 00:27:53.400 --> 00:27:57.240 Next thing you know, Arizona finishes the season five and where it could have 408 00:27:57.319 --> 00:28:00.480 easily been six and six. So I think this year they'll improve in that 409 00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:06.039 category and maybe they'll get that six months. I think that's pretty likely. 410 00:28:06.240 --> 00:28:08.759 Let's also say from my end uh and not that I want to pooh pooh 411 00:28:08.759 --> 00:28:12.480 you guys predictions, because you guys could be very well, we're right um 412 00:28:12.279 --> 00:28:15.799 um. We also assume that things are going to go that things won't go 413 00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:19.839 bad. Um injuries and key areas blah blah blah. And you still have 414 00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:25.640 the Jon Delora factor. How is he going to handle the season of being 415 00:28:25.759 --> 00:28:33.000 under the eagle eye of so many Yeah, and I think that this will 416 00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:37.440 allow Jed and Jaden to kind of huddle up. And you know, and 417 00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:42.119 as regarding regarding his high school incident, I don't think that's going to be 418 00:28:42.119 --> 00:28:45.960 a thing that carries over fall throughout the season. Um. You know, 419 00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:51.519 it's it's a it's a terrible thing, a terrible look for him, and 420 00:28:51.559 --> 00:28:56.759 it's certainly a blemish on his career. Now we don't know all the details, 421 00:28:56.799 --> 00:29:03.039 right because it was a a juvenile case, so everything was was sealed, 422 00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:06.960 so we don't know all the details regarding his case. But I think 423 00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:12.119 that with the settlement, with all of that happening, I think that at 424 00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:15.960 first, you know, jet Fish and Jaden Delord they're gonna have to answer 425 00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:19.920 some tough questions like at packball media day or Arizona Football Media Day or even 426 00:29:21.279 --> 00:29:23.480 you know, or leading up to the season. But you know, there 427 00:29:23.480 --> 00:29:29.160 eventually there's going to be a time where we're going to talk about Jaden Delord 428 00:29:29.160 --> 00:29:30.640 of the quarterback, and I think that's gonna be you know, suited than 429 00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:36.960 later. But I think with Jaden, as far as his mature in his 430 00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:42.240 growth, You're going to see a big step forward for Jaden on the field 431 00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:49.240 this year because Jaden finally has a full year under Jetfish. He's got a 432 00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:53.400 full season in the system, and he's had time to get not only those 433 00:29:53.440 --> 00:29:59.279 physical reps, with those mental reps studding and now it's kind of second nature 434 00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:02.480 for him and he really understands the offense and has mastered it. You know, 435 00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:07.319 he told us during springball that you know, last spring I wasn't able 436 00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:11.519 to repeat the plays back to Jed. I was struggling big time. Now 437 00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:18.480 he's completely mastered the offense. So Jaden will become a better quarterback this year. 438 00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:22.039 And also, you know, Jed made a really good point in spring 439 00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:26.160 you know, when we compare Jaden to the other quarterbacks in the Pac twelve, 440 00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:32.000 like a Caleb Williams, like a Michael Pennix, even a bone Nick, 441 00:30:32.599 --> 00:30:34.759 all those guys are transfers. But what do all those guys have in 442 00:30:34.920 --> 00:30:41.240 common that Jaden Delora doesn't. They all reunited with former coaches. Bone Nicks 443 00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:45.559 got with Kenny Dillingham, Michael Pennix got with Eric Morris's former coach at Incarnate 444 00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:48.640 Word, and Caleb Williams got with his old buddy Lincoln Riley from Oklahoma. 445 00:30:49.119 --> 00:30:53.119 And there's already a familiarity factor there. That's why it seems so easy for 446 00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:59.720 these transfers to look. Well, Jayden, now he's not foreign to the 447 00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:04.000 in the offense. And plus I also think winning helps too. All those 448 00:31:04.039 --> 00:31:10.240 guys got more attention nationally because they all got their teams to bowl games. 449 00:31:10.599 --> 00:31:15.039 If Jaden can win some ball games this year, I think he's going to 450 00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:19.000 get the pub that he deserves. But I think that you know, a 451 00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:25.240 big thing about Jaden that nobody really talks about is his ability to absorb information 452 00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:29.559 and learn. You know, last year against Missippi State, he was so 453 00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:33.400 hesitant to run. You know, there were so many opportunities where he had 454 00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:37.559 twelve to fourteen yard windows and wouldn't tuck the ball and go and pick up 455 00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:41.319 those first downs and continue to drive and extend it. He always tried to 456 00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:45.519 use his arm and then Jed preached it to him in practice and then next 457 00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:48.119 thing, you know, you're starting to see Jaden Delora run the football. 458 00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:52.119 And then going into the off season, he puts on thirty pounds of armor 459 00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:56.680 of good weight because he knows he's gonna have to run the football, and 460 00:31:56.799 --> 00:31:59.920 yet he still looks fast. So Jayden Delora, keep an eye on this 461 00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:07.319 guy to to really have a fantastic season for Arizona. Wow. Okay, 462 00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:12.119 seriously, I mean seriously, just because you know, I guess I you 463 00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:15.319 know, as as somebody who saw him, you know, be up and 464 00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:17.160 down last year, and I guess the way you explain it makes a lot 465 00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:21.559 of sense. But he was up and down last year, and and uh, 466 00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:23.599 there was there was a there was good jade and bad jade, and 467 00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:28.880 bad jade was bad. Um Washington Yeah, you just yeah, that Washington 468 00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:30.759 State game. So you just wonder, yeah, how's he gonna, you 469 00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:34.799 know, how's that gonna? How is he gonna fix that this year? 470 00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:39.279 And you and you think it's because he'd be more familiar with everything. Yeah, 471 00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:42.880 and I think the Washington State game too, And and thank you for 472 00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:45.079 bringing that up, because you know, that's that's one thing that we do 473 00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:49.240 have to mention, right, Jaden had an opportunity to really stick it to 474 00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:52.039 his old team. And what does he do. He plays hero ball, 475 00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:54.319 He throws four interceptions, and on top of that, he's fighting his teammate 476 00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:58.960 on the sideline on national TV. He just it wasn't a good look. 477 00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:05.519 If jay can learn from those mistakes and learn to be a mature leader, 478 00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:12.319 then then he's gonna be great. But I think that Jayden right now just 479 00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:15.119 needs to keep his nose down, considering what we just talked about with, 480 00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:20.559 you know, the off the field stuff. If Jayden can just keep his 481 00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:24.160 nose down and work and win football games, you know, it's just, 482 00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:28.599 you know, it's kind of that old thing. You know, winning really 483 00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:31.799 takes care of everything. If Jayden can can start winning some football games, 484 00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:35.240 then I don't think, you know, a lot of people are gonna have 485 00:33:35.319 --> 00:33:37.279 much criticism for him. Just real quick. I know we're running out of 486 00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:42.359 time. Jason, Um, you did your top five games in your in 487 00:33:42.440 --> 00:33:45.519 your time right in your time here. Yes, yeah, ever since we 488 00:33:46.119 --> 00:33:54.039 started on the Arizona the top five most memorable games, I haven't I haven't 489 00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:57.240 seen it, but I want to hear out of the mouth of Babes. 490 00:33:57.559 --> 00:34:00.400 Tell me go ahead, justin and then I'll yell at you again. Okay, 491 00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:04.079 tell me you want to go into detail, just give me like five, 492 00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:09.880 four, three, two, one? Okay? So number um gotting 493 00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:16.800 serious? Number Number one was the seventy to seven Territorial Cup game, omberable 494 00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:22.039 game, that great game. Okay, okay. Was the n AU lost, 495 00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:31.800 Yeah, the season. Number three was I think the NC Double A 496 00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:37.639 tournament lost to Buffalo. Oh you're ducking stuff. That's okay, yeah, 497 00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:44.880 okay, yes, um, but no, actually number three was the territorial 498 00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:50.760 Number four was the tournament lost. And then number five I'm blinking on what 499 00:34:51.039 --> 00:34:53.960 number five? Yeah, those are just some of the few of them, 500 00:34:54.039 --> 00:34:57.960 like bad losses or something, and I would like yelled at you about that. 501 00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:04.440 I'm sorry, sorry, but it just seventy to seven game is so 502 00:35:04.719 --> 00:35:08.920 memorable because it was during the pandemic. You know, we were all wearing 503 00:35:09.079 --> 00:35:14.719 masks. They were just cardboard cutouts in the stadium, and it was just 504 00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:19.800 so grim. And I mean Arizona they went down fourteen nothing in fifty three 505 00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:22.280 seconds or something like that. So it was just it was so bizarre and 506 00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:25.840 I'll never forget. In the postgame press conference, they just rolled out this 507 00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:30.360 guy, and we were all in the press box were looking around, like, 508 00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:34.079 who the bleep is this guy? Like we were like, I don't 509 00:35:34.119 --> 00:35:37.239 know who the guy is, Like I didn't even know this guy existed. 510 00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:39.719 Is he really on the team? And then I forgot who it was. 511 00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:45.320 They said, yeah, this is Parker Henley, who's a walk on linebacker 512 00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:47.920 who got some runs because Arizona was just getting whacked. And honestly, guys, 513 00:35:47.960 --> 00:35:51.840 I had no idea this guy even existed, and here he was doing 514 00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:53.360 the postgame press connce. I felt so bad for him, but I respected 515 00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:55.599 the hell out of it. Yeah, it's funny because I think you were 516 00:35:55.639 --> 00:35:59.760 there. We kind of joked, is something going to come out for halftime 517 00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:06.679 or well he already fired him at half because it was a disasters. Yeah, 518 00:36:06.840 --> 00:36:09.000 I didn't want him to come out. So all your your if you 519 00:36:09.039 --> 00:36:13.280 don't mention number five, I mean, if it is Princeton, all five 520 00:36:13.320 --> 00:36:17.920 are losses. No, no, no, that's Territorial Cup win. Okay, 521 00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:22.519 okay, but yeah, the Territorial Cup win in in you know this 522 00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:25.760 past season, I thought, I mean, to me, it was just 523 00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:30.760 all about the Kevin Sumone guys um or the the guys who got there, 524 00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:34.840 you know, towards you know the end of the rich Rod era, and 525 00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:37.760 they never experienced winning a territorial cup. So seeing the look on the looks 526 00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:42.599 on those guys in the faces winning that, I thought it was spectacular. 527 00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:46.079 But I think I'm looking at my list here. Oh, number five, 528 00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:52.199 sorry, Number five is actually the two thousand tey Pac twelve tournament when they 529 00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:58.239 beat Washington and then you know, COVID nineteen happened and then the whole world 530 00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:01.639 shut down that day. Covering the Pactall tournament is one of the most memorable 531 00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:07.039 things I'll ever have my journalistic career because it just it felt like we were 532 00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:09.519 in the twilight zone. It was just nuts. Man. Yeah, that's 533 00:37:09.559 --> 00:37:13.599 what and that's legit. I'm okay with that, John. I'm just like, 534 00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:17.320 you know, come on, man, well you you're one and two 535 00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:21.960 or two of the worst days in the history of Arizona athletics. So it's 536 00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:24.159 like, okay, I guess I make some memorable my boys cheering up. 537 00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:32.280 I'm proud of you. All right, Hey, I promise I talk about 538 00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:36.280 your golf tournament. You gotta golf tournament, did you guys? You and 539 00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:39.079 your brother are doing right. Yeah, my brother and I we've been talking 540 00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:44.039 about doing this for two years now, and we wanted to put together this 541 00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:47.280 golf tournament that's you know, a summer tradition and for not making a dime 542 00:37:47.320 --> 00:37:52.039 office, you know, we just wanted to raise money for TMC for children, 543 00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:55.480 the Miracle Children Network. I think that's that's what it's called. And 544 00:37:57.159 --> 00:38:00.960 um, basically what we're doing is we're raising the money and we're to dump 545 00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:02.639 it off to them and just play some golf and have fun while doing it. 546 00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:07.119 So we're excited about it. It's on July. Two teams at at 547 00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:09.480 Star Pass, so we're gonna have a guitar pass. It's one hundred twenty 548 00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:13.880 five bucks a player five hundred dollars a four. So you get some good 549 00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:15.559 here and that kind of stuff. Um, you got you got some. 550 00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:19.400 You got some guys coming out that are going to attrack some people, maybe 551 00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:25.239 some athletes or something like that. So unfortunately, our guy Levi Wallace backed 552 00:38:25.239 --> 00:38:30.199 out. He's out of town that week, so we're not gonna we're gonna 553 00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:32.480 we're not gonna have NFL stars there. But uh now we're just we're just 554 00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:35.719 gonna have a bunch of you know, people on two so I will be 555 00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:37.719 out there all leave. I think we'll be out there as well, my 556 00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:44.000 co host, and we'll also have people coming in from Phoenix. What we're 557 00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:45.719 having people coming in from out of town to we're out of state, so 558 00:38:46.559 --> 00:38:49.960 we have people flying in from all over. So it's gonna be good time. 559 00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:52.519 It's two weeks from this sacred Maybe we show up and bring out the 560 00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:58.079 sunscreen Justin, Okay, maybe we show up. Always think I want to 561 00:38:58.119 --> 00:39:01.800 disappoint Michigan dollars that she will. Yeah, so she may even show up 562 00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:07.519 to make sure you do, so you never know. Thank you, Justin 563 00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:12.360 Okay, Justin. I appreciate the time, buddy, And uh well, 564 00:39:12.679 --> 00:39:17.159 we'll plug your show to Sleep Spears seven o'clock in the morning weekdays on ESPN 565 00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:21.960 Radio. So Justin, thanks again. Let's see you. Take care Justin 566 00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:27.360 Spears, our adopted son before we go, because it's bugging me that I 567 00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:30.719 got to correct when I was doing the numbers on our on our podcast, 568 00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:35.199 I had him wrong. I was I was quoting the difference between last year 569 00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:38.800 and this year. We're getting about six thousand listeners a month, which is 570 00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:45.440 a lot for a podcast that that's just a podcast. That's just the podcast. 571 00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:47.719 Those are people who don't. We're getting some visibility out there. And 572 00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:52.079 like I said, it's we're we're doubling and tripling these last two months. 573 00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:58.599 We've nearly tripled. Oh we did the same two months last year. Again, 574 00:39:58.679 --> 00:40:00.239 We love you all for listening to us. Keep listening to us, 575 00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:05.679 keep downloading the podcast. And if you're not, if you're not hearing us 576 00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:07.079 live, but it would love for you to listen to us live as well. 577 00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:09.920 All right, let's take our break, right, great, all right, 578 00:40:09.960 --> 00:40:14.079 we'll grab back. If you're an Arizona men's basketball fan, you know 579 00:40:14.159 --> 00:40:16.599 it's been successful for nearly forty years. Now take a look back at the 580 00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:20.400 Ludolson era. In my new book, Lessons from Loot. 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The A Team Apply online today at a team security dot net. 622 00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:23.199 Streaming live on the iHeart Radio WAP. This is I on the Ball 623 00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:30.960 with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteens fifty. Hey, welcome 624 00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:32.079 back to I on the Ball here in Fox Sports fourteen. Cookie. I'm 625 00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:35.679 Steve, he's Jay. We have about eight minutes. We went way over 626 00:43:35.800 --> 00:43:37.400 with Justin, but we're okay with that. Yeah, you know, I 627 00:43:37.519 --> 00:43:43.079 love Justin. He's just one of the good guys, right, and you 628 00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:45.719 know, and I mean again, he could be our kid, right, 629 00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:50.679 But we have fun with him. He does a good job. I feel 630 00:43:50.719 --> 00:43:54.760 like he works hard. He got the seven am gig every day and then 631 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:59.039 you know then he's got the full time job covering and you know, and 632 00:43:59.239 --> 00:44:02.519 I know that every Arizona football there's a lot of work, a lot of 633 00:44:02.559 --> 00:44:07.679 work, a lot every day, yeah, especially now every day all the 634 00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:10.639 social media stuff. Yeah, it's a tough gig. So good, good 635 00:44:10.679 --> 00:44:17.400 adjusted, So absolutely okay. And then we were so busy patting ourselves in 636 00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:24.000 the back. We took right. That's okay. It's exciting though much. 637 00:44:24.039 --> 00:44:27.639 I had no we you and I had no idea, right because we keep 638 00:44:27.800 --> 00:44:30.559 asking for the numbers. We just do our show when we feel like people 639 00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:32.719 are listening. We get a lot of comments out in public and stuff, 640 00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:36.719 but people are really, what the hell did you take the day off? 641 00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:39.320 Exactly? Where the hell? Where are you guys? I was hoping to 642 00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:43.760 take Friday. It looks like, okay, no, cool, you have 643 00:44:43.840 --> 00:44:45.800 a chance. We got a couple of calls left. Well, if you 644 00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:51.159 have a chance for a couple of calls about six minute stuff five two seventy 645 00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:52.840 four, forty, give us a call if you'd like. Are you happy, 646 00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:58.199 unhappy and different about Jay John winning the title last night? Um? 647 00:44:58.760 --> 00:45:00.840 Hey, like I said, he was great at Nevada. Two years later 648 00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:04.840 he was here going how do they feel? Probably the same, you know, 649 00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:07.159 why did you leave? But he's in ten years, in nine ten 650 00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:12.679 years, probably ten ten seasons. He's done very very well, very well 651 00:45:14.440 --> 00:45:16.119 champion. That doesn't happen by accident. And again when you did it that 652 00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:22.880 first year, you thought, you know, people always do. We talk 653 00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:28.320 about that though, but you gotta coach, you gotta coach him exactly coaching. 654 00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:30.840 And then he talked about how he coaching. He was tired, and 655 00:45:31.440 --> 00:45:35.639 you know it was time for him to get out and uh, and he 656 00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:37.639 wasn't giving it. You know, he wasn't given effort that he thought he 657 00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:39.880 should beginning. How I asked you this, I don't know if I've ever 658 00:45:39.920 --> 00:45:43.360 asked you. I think I've asked a couple of coaches when we have them 659 00:45:43.360 --> 00:45:47.880 on coaching. Okay, you have one hundred percent give me a coaching and 660 00:45:47.960 --> 00:45:52.119 players. Well, yeah, we had this conversation because we tell you there's 661 00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:58.400 different percentages for different levels and different sports. Uh, college basketball coaching I 662 00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:04.000 think is huge, all right because you know this, Yeah, yeah, 663 00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:07.679 because you've seen that. You've seen a lot of a lot of places that 664 00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:10.920 have the best players every game and they're not very good, right, Okay, 665 00:46:12.599 --> 00:46:17.280 baseball. I believe that coaching is because there's so many coaching things that 666 00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:22.119 go and don strategy, right, you know, no win to pinch hit, 667 00:46:23.679 --> 00:46:27.880 what pictures, no wind to take out a picture. I think I 668 00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:30.719 think it. I think that magnifies how important a coach can be because there's 669 00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:36.400 so many good baseball players. Yeah, does LSU have better players than um, 670 00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:42.519 you know Cal, Yes, But you know when you get into baseball, 671 00:46:43.480 --> 00:46:45.800 so often a bad team can beat a good team on a given day. 672 00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:49.519 Sure, sure, look at the dip and a coach can screw it 673 00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:52.599 up. Look at the disparitiing games from game two to game three, just 674 00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:54.559 like two days, right, they beat them twenty five to five, and 675 00:46:54.639 --> 00:46:58.000 then they lose eighteen to four or whatever it was. If there, if 676 00:46:58.079 --> 00:47:01.079 there's a sport or a coach, well, obviously football you can screw it 677 00:47:01.199 --> 00:47:06.320 up badly by being terrible play callers. Yeah, but when you're talking about 678 00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:08.480 how you run a game baseball, it's so easy to screw it up, 679 00:47:08.800 --> 00:47:12.039 you know, I mean, I mean, you know, you know I 680 00:47:12.159 --> 00:47:14.880 was there in high school, and you know you don't know when you need 681 00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:16.920 to go get your picture. You know, you don't know when you know, 682 00:47:17.079 --> 00:47:21.159 this guy doesn't have a shot to get a base hit against his picture, 683 00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:23.159 so you go get another guy, or you know, and you don't 684 00:47:23.159 --> 00:47:27.599 have to have guys right, or or Johnny didn't get the grades and now 685 00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:30.239 you gotta you gotta go get a guy to you know, to play his 686 00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:32.280 position, and you know, all of a sudden, everybody's out of position 687 00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:35.719 because of one guy. You know, things like, well, at that 688 00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:38.559 level, you're you're looking for just for body right who can play. But 689 00:47:38.599 --> 00:47:40.840 even you know, even at Arizonaist level, you know, you know, 690 00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:45.039 you lose a guy, Let's say you lose your shortstop, Well, who's 691 00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:47.559 your who's your best shortstop after him? It may not be the backup shortstop. 692 00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:51.960 It may be you're starting second basement, you know. So there's so 693 00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:55.000 many decisions that you got to make in that card. At the college level, 694 00:47:55.039 --> 00:48:00.079 I think coaching matters a lot more than that the NBA level or that 695 00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:04.719 prom I think, and particularly in n I think you can just throw the 696 00:48:04.760 --> 00:48:07.960 guys on. The guys have to have to respect you, though, if 697 00:48:08.000 --> 00:48:13.000 there's one thing that you I've learned, if the guys don't respect you under 698 00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:16.000 any circumstances and you see that a lot with um. You see that in 699 00:48:16.039 --> 00:48:21.880 the NBA or or maybe some football, but like you have to, they 700 00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:23.480 have to have some cachet. Did you play in the league? Are you 701 00:48:23.559 --> 00:48:27.880 gonna tell me? But who? I think that manifest itself. Steve is 702 00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:32.840 in a locker room. If you've got the guys do it'll shut down. 703 00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:37.000 Yeah, it'll shut down everything, and and and not that. If we 704 00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:42.880 go back in our time here thirty some years, I'm sure if we're honest 705 00:48:42.920 --> 00:48:45.840 with each other, that we can tell you teams to shut it down. 706 00:48:46.119 --> 00:48:51.159 Yeah, hey, someone's team that last one down. That's obvious. I 707 00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:53.880 don't think anybody wrote that. I don't think anybody said that. Maybe I'm 708 00:48:53.880 --> 00:48:58.880 wrong, not not the media spot. You could see it. We all 709 00:48:59.320 --> 00:49:04.000 right, and as fans, we thought that you could just and there's fathers, 710 00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:07.360 there's others. Let me say this Buffalo twenty is going to bring that 711 00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:09.719 up. I mean, come on, come on, that that was a 712 00:49:09.760 --> 00:49:15.639 shutdown for probably for all ages. Right, you know that I agree with 713 00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:17.800 you, and I was that was the one I was gonna bring up. 714 00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:20.920 And then you know, you think about that Buffalo game where you just look 715 00:49:21.639 --> 00:49:23.079 those guys just didn't want to be. And this is this is four or 716 00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:27.679 five days after you guys thinking oh, we're back, right back, because 717 00:49:27.719 --> 00:49:30.119 I think the crap out of UNC member right as opposed to this Princeton game 718 00:49:30.159 --> 00:49:34.000 where I didn't think, but I think they just got out played by a 719 00:49:34.039 --> 00:49:39.039 team that played harder and better. I remember Arizona's m O all year lead, 720 00:49:39.559 --> 00:49:43.440 lead, lead, and then dropped the lead at the end. But 721 00:49:43.519 --> 00:49:46.519 it was just the same type of thing all season. Then playing them all 722 00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:51.599 year. Absolutely no, I I yeah, but you're going back to the 723 00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:54.159 original question. I think coaching matters a whole lot more at the college, 724 00:49:54.400 --> 00:49:59.719 and rightly so, because they're young guys, they're still learning, they're ring 725 00:49:59.760 --> 00:50:02.360 out beat at a high level. Some of them get it more than others, 726 00:50:02.599 --> 00:50:05.800 right, And you gotta know which ones to bring along and all of 727 00:50:05.840 --> 00:50:09.000 those things. Um, but you know, if you got Tom Brady on 728 00:50:09.079 --> 00:50:13.079 your team, you're gonna be really good, right, no matter who the 729 00:50:13.159 --> 00:50:15.719 coach. Sure, and you're gonna have players who do we talk to the 730 00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:21.639 other day where you you go to your players or your teammates, and the 731 00:50:21.760 --> 00:50:23.519 one thing you don't want to do is disappoint them, right, You don't 732 00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:27.199 want to just I don't want to disappoint you because I know you're working on 733 00:50:28.599 --> 00:50:30.599 Yeah, yeah, just yeah, I would say with Steve Kerry, right 734 00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:32.519 right, you go to play and you don't want to disappoint your guys because 735 00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:36.000 you're part of the chain, right, You're part of the chain, and 736 00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:37.880 you've got good teams play that way and you gotta be like you gotta be 737 00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:43.599 a strong link to get it further. And if you're the weak link that 738 00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:46.480 that hurts of course to Jay. You run up against a better team. 739 00:50:46.800 --> 00:50:50.320 There are days when you just get beat by a better team. There are 740 00:50:50.519 --> 00:50:52.800 that day, there are Oklahoma, Oklahoma and eighty eight. Yeah, yeah, 741 00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:57.960 I think Arizona would have beat beating them seven out of ten, six 742 00:50:58.119 --> 00:51:00.039 or seven out of ten times on that day. That was one of them 743 00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:04.320 who they didn't. Yeah, I think I think what happened in Arizona that 744 00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:09.519 day was they were not prepared for how fast Oklahoma was gonna be. Probably 745 00:51:09.679 --> 00:51:12.880 now that they'd had a game with them, I think they would have handled 746 00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:15.440 that much. And Oklahoma didn't win it all either, right, and then 747 00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:19.039 they didn't win it exactly. But what everybody thought was a very average cancer 748 00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:22.880 won that championship. All right, We're gonna take our break. Where we 749 00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:23.320 come back, it'll be breaking news.