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Hello, everyone, Welcome back to
the fire Escape Cast. It is officially

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twenty twenty three. Here on the
Best show on God's Green Earth fire Escape

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Cast. I'm Mike. That's Dan. Hi. I can't hear a thing

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you're saying. It seems like you're
internet's fucked up. What's going on there?

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Yeah? Off the top, and
that's Mary. I'll introduce you first

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before I explain. Hello, I'm
having some bum fuck email or internet problems.

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I'm plug and plug it in quite
a few times. Yeah, we

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did you do a speed check?
Yep? Yeah, streaming any Netflix on

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another monitor there? What are you
doing now? Troubleshoot on the other side

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of the apartment. We're streaming.
But that's about it. And we always

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we usually always are during the recording. Um. But yeah, Big Storm,

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he loves it when you trouble shootoots. Troubleshoot. God. My last

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job constantly trying to record podcasts with
wrestlers who have like five kids in the

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house, all playing roadblocks and streaming
stuff on different devices and having to tell

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wrestlers to tell their kids to stop
doing things like, oh boy, that's

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a fun troubleshooting time. Yeah,
Big Storm hit on the East Coast,

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Midwest, pretty much everywhere, and
uh bad up here. Really, no,

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you're not too far from me.
It was very cold and windy as

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hell, like forty five mile prour
winds, and uh, the whole East

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coast, like eastern seaboard was bad. But we got an email from Verizon

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telling us that our internet might suck
shit for the next couple of weeks.

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So if I'm being unusually quiet tonight, that's why I know. I'm always

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very quiet and austere, but tonight
that's why so mysterious like Batman. That's

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why I like to think of myself
as it's because I'm cool like Batman and

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that many comic guys. But I'm
trying to think of who Mike would be

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if he was a coming. Oh
do you ever see Peacemaker with John Cena?

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Nope, Okay, I know an
annoying friend. I'm the annoying friend.

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Yeah. I think you'd be the
punisher because you hold really long,

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like crazy like maniac grudges. Yeah. No, I like go most of

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my grudges. No, I think
they're in there, and I think that

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the punisher is all about like a
real sincere one because it's like you know

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his family and stuff, but yours
are more like mcgruber grudges, where you're

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like, listen, fuckoh a tax
party and I've held a grudge for seven

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years. I don't specific ones.
I yeah, I don't name any of

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them because I do have grudges,
but like they're less grudges and more just

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like I really fucking hate that person. Like I'm not seeking retribution for I

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think there's like there's like three.
Probably I'm not actively seeking revenge, but

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I just don't have some time times
that you, me and this person,

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this unnamed person have been in the
same physical space and this person has said

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things and my instant thought is,
oh my god, Mike's gonna hate that.

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And I would turn to look at
you and you would just have fury

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in your eye to laugh in front
of him. Yeah, there's I think

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there's several people, but yeah,
it's it's been a I've been letting go

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a lot of my anger the last
five years or so. Oh good for

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you. I think it's still deep
down inside him. It's like the light

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in your eyes, you know,
Like, yeah, it's like when somebody

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finds love or when someone becomes a
dad and they get this sparkle in their

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eye. Mike gets that. But
when he has an extreme rage inside for

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someone that he hates, step down
inside and they say something dumb from across

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the room and he hears it.
Yeah, it's dumb people that I don't

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like, and I'm very intelligent,
so I take dumb this as I'm like,

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I'm like an affront to my personal
insult. Yeah, I like your

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Christmas vacation glass mug thing. I
was really hoping someone would notice my Christmas

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vacation moose mug it is. It
is a vodka ginger. If you're not

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watching the video version as a video
patron, you're missing out, which also

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brings us to our next point.
If you're not a patron yet, or

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if you are and you missed it, we have a bonus episode up.

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A lot of you, if not
all of you, probably know. We

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did our twenty twenty two Game of
the Year Extravaganza and Connecticut at Dan's studio

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a couple of weeks ago as of
this recording, and it was a blast,

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What a rush. It was great
still recovery cool. Yeah, me

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too cool, dis exhausting cool.
Judge Jake joined us. He's not here

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to night unfortunately, um, but
he's listening to the recording. Thanks a

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lot, cool judge, Jake.
He settled a lot of disputes very professionally

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and with great acumen. Controversially,
that's a lot of people disagreed with.

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But you know it was good.
No, I think universally he was beloved

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and everyone agreed. It's one of
those weird situations, you know, some

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good decisions. It was like the
Supreme Court, but like not evil.

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Everyone's like, yeah, we agree, Yeah, he like actually was like

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the will of the people some cases, yeah, and all cases. He

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whisper. Yeah. Yeah. Our
bonus episode's up. If you're not a

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Patreon, go to firescapecast dot com
or Patreon dot com slash fire Escape to

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sign up. We just recorded our
two hour ninety minute road trip from New

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York to Connecticut. Just put up
in organic and we don't really talk about

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games. We talk about like stuff
you would talk about on a road trip,

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you know, like your favorite movies
and I don't know, just other

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like weird stuff that happens. Yeah, I don't think your life. It's

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very just all we just yeah,
it was a straight up pretty evergreen Uh

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yeah, yeah, it was very
very fun going to immediately bought a GoPro

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afterwards because I was like, man, thing's pretty tiny and that looked pretty

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good, so it is convenient,
and also the case, like the fact

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that it has that waterproofcase will make
you feel way more gutsy, whereas like

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I have a lot of nice cameras, but no way on hell would I

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strap one to the hood of my
car like on the outside, but a

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GoPro Like, you're fine, you
fucking section cup for putting on the outside

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of your car and go Pro and
I think it's We're not doing an ad

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for GoPro. I just like it's
pretty cool. You don't even need It's

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just a yeah, hey GoPro.
If you're listening, just the thing itself

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is a waterproof now, so you
can just take the whole damn thing underwater.

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And I've done that. This is
like I think they have like GoPro

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nine or whatever. It's kind of
like I got eleven block. See,

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it's like, now that's what I
call music. It's like there's like twenty

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seven and it's like whatever. I
had the original go Pro, which was

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such a chunker, but it worked
extremely well and it had a plastic case,

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and I went scuba diving, and
I took that shit scuba diving,

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Like I took it deep underwater and
took it on a huge underwater adventure and

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like you know, took took video
of all the clown fishes and stuff.

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It was awesome, And I was
like, I would never be able to

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do this a goopro. I would
never put like a nice camera in a

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ziploc baggy and like bring it down
there. But a GoPro, I was

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like, it's like it's just it's
it's not cheap, but it's just enough

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where it's okay if it got dinged
or like whatever. It feels like that's

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the point of it. I just
like the flexibility to like record, because

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I like when I streamed and stuff. I like that, Like I've got

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a document camera that looks straight down. I've got these cameras that are over

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here in the corners, and like, I like having as many camera options

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as possible. So seeing Jake be
able to just like set that up there

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and record as awesome. But by
the way, we did do it in

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person, like we said here in
Connecticut, and we literally were able to

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do that because of patrons, so
like your your Patreon dollars immediately, like

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directly got all of us out here, So we wanted to make that piece

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of content just for you, the
patrons, So that'll be up there.

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There's an audio version and a video
version, so check it out whichever you

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like, if you're on the Patreon. Video versions better because it has us

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trying to get the truck driver to
hit his horn, succeeding first try,

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first try. You get to get
more nuances of the road trip with the

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video, but yeah, both of
them are available. Again, this is

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not an ad for GoPro, but
like the stabilization was almost too good because

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there was one point where I had
to break suddenly and the joke did not

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translate to the recording as much because
all of us were like thrown forward in

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the car. But the GoPro was
just calm, cool, collected. Yeah,

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we're going to do like a social
clip that. Then we watched it,

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we're like, hey, it's not
funny. Told yeah, you wouldn't

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notice, you wouldn't notice. Um. I also thought the audio was really

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good. It wasn't recorded on the
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recorder, and I thought that turned
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in the middle of the dash,
hoping that it would capture all of us,

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and it did. So. If
anyone's ever driving with Mike, please

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correct him and kind of backs you
drive as much as possible. He's a

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big fan of that. Yeah,
I love it. Speaking of grudges,

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I still you're getting that glint your
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Who is God? There's the quint
for the fakere on video. I think

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the look I do when someone in
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is more of like a like it's
murder, don't have time for this,

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or maybe it's murder. There's like
violent intent behind your eyes for sure.

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Punisher, the cats on this,
everybody they were getting used to the company.

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Did you find the Googles? I
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I found two sets. I've found
one. I found one pair, did

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more than one. We had two
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I did three three. I found
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looks the same because she already has
a cat. Lunas looks hilarious. You

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should see it because Luna has ridiculous
eyes. So putting Google Eyes on a

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cat makes it just look like it's
insane. I found and then I did

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Mike's like personal like cute photo that
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Wait, there's a third set,
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Google Eye box. Now this is
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this at all, which is something
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right up to me with a plastic
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sorted from small to large, and
said do you want some? And I

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said, oh, yeah, I
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my pocket and I just started putting
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didn't even bring it up. There
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it was, yeah, is that
from the same wavelength? Okay, Mike's

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looking for googly eyes? He's grabbing
a picture. Uh where he doesn't have

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a headphones on? Where did you
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I'd heard to hear that nod No. So the morning when so Jake

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and Mary stayed at my place a
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did the Game of the Year thing, So I was like getting I think

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I was getting the breakout video and
whatnot ready for the next day. In

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like in this room, Mary's just
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what are you doing? She's like, just snooping, And I was like,

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Oh, that's what I love that. I love that snooping is a

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good excuse to put Google eyes on
because snooping is so much worse. But

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I like, I would just rather
you think that I'm a fucking gross person

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than doing what I was doing,
which is being a little scamp and putting

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Google eyes on all your photos.
But if you are snooping, how bad

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can it be? If you're openly
saying you're snooping? You know, were

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fairly like reasonable decent people. I
suspect I'd have to do some real digging.

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I felt like every their house is
extremely well manicured. It's clean,

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they like keep up with everything,
especially when they had three guests spending the

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night. I feel like all the
Skellies are really in there. Nothing.

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I haven't stayed in Mike's plaze and
gone to bed before like four am,

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ever, which I guess as we
record this, I've got a New Year's

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Eve at his place coming up in
a few days. Yeah, well,

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yeah, that'll be an early night. I'm sure probably, I never I'll

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probably go to bed at like ten. Yeah, oh, you can drink

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thing we're going to you know.
Something that was interesting about that, and

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this is just like a personal anecdote
because nobody really talked about this was like

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afterwards we discussed in the road trip
video that we wanted to do a little

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fire pit and so after we did
this very long recording, we were like,

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let's sit at the fire and decompress. Let's like hang out, has

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nothing to do with games. Let's
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we did. Jake went to bed
because he was tie tie and smart.

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Three thirty or four in the morning. Yeah, for another hour, Mike

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and I and you sit at the
fire and have a beer. I'd actually

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think I had two more beers,
which was such a fucking mistake, but

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I digress. And then after that
I was like, all right, I'm

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going to bed, and Mike goes
to bed, and in the morning,

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Dan, you said you stayed up
for another hour after that. Yeah.

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I always kind of have that thing
after a stream, even a really late

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one, where it's like I can't
It's like My mom was a waitress,

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and she always used to tell me
about like she would come home so late

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and so exhausted, but her head
would be going so fast that like she

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just wasn't able to sleep or whatever. I'm kind of that way. After

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a long stream where it's like,
especially an exciting one like that Game of

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the Year, like a really long
stream I do on my own or something,

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I can't just like all right,
well, you know, time to

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sleep. I can't do that.
So I pretty much always either chugwater or

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have like one more beer and just
like, oh, okay, let's see

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how people in the discord reacted to
it. Let's see how people will here,

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let's check Twitter. Let's just see
bah bah. So just that's might

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kind of like come down time,
or I'll just play a little bit of

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Fortnite or whatever. So yeah,
I was up for yeah, maybe another

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hour after that. Yeah, I
think that's cool to decompress. I just

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was so zonked. It's amazing for
me to think that. It like five

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in the morning. You were like, I need like another thirty I need

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another thirty to just hang out and
then I'll go to sleep. At five

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thirty, and we all woke up
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Well, I just need to not
be on where it's like and even if

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you're not on camera or microphone,
like if you're talking people and you're being

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social, you are like you're on
in a certa. Maybe it's just me,

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And so I just need that time
where it's like I'm not fucking talking

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because you know, especially if I've
been talking for eight straight hours on something,

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it's like I just need to shut
the funk up and then you know,

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decompressed for thirty minutes and go to
bed. Yeah, that's cool.

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It was pretty amazing. It was
a really good trip. In the morning,

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we all got brunch. One of
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to a brunch place that for whatever
reason, and this is like after an

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eight hour drinking and like sesh,
there was just this like intense brunch required

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menu that was like three rounds of
drinks and bottomless mimosas and unanimous and we

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were all like, whatever, I'd
rather eat spaghetti, drink bottomless mimoas brunch

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there because I've had their dinners and
they're really good, and it's like,

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oh, I wonder where the brunches
are like, And then it's like you

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only can order this like three course
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And it's like we're all we're like
driving and we just won't, like

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we don't want to start drinking right
now. So good salads and pasta and

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so good for breakfast, it was
good, I will think you. And

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that's funny too, because I think
in New York you had um, you

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you had pasta for breakfast. Yeah, for breakfast. Oh yeah, like

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meaty pasta fu. Yeah. I'm
telling you. Food taste just as good

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at eight am as it does at
eight pm. People are fucking weirdos about

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breakfast. You know, just ed
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Everyone's weird about it. I definitely
am weird about it. Like we

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explained weird. It's not about taste, it's about how heavy the food is.

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How Like I have steak and eggs
for breakfast, So I'm kind of

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right there with you steak and eggs, though at least there's protein you're burning

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throughout the rest of the day.
But how's that different than now I having

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a big plate of buffalo wings and
ranch for breakfast, Like that's the same

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thing I have, like burn INDs
for breakfast, Like it's the same.

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Yeah, don't you see all those
marathon runners that eat an entire plate of

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wings right before they run a marathon. You got a rancho load, man,

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before you do a big marathon.
You gotta worst parts of my upbringing

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and growing up where when I would
get up and i'd be so excited about

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McDonald's and i'd go there and it'd
be like ten o'clock and they're like,

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we're not serving lunch until ten thirty, and it's like, oh great,

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I gotta sit around here for thirty
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I think that's more just the process
of McDonald's how they prepare food,

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Like they probably just get breakfast food
ready. I worked at McDonald's. Yes,

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you get all that stuff ready to
go. You want to have it,

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like you want to have fries and
burgers and chicken eggs. But I

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have to wait all the time anyway, because all my stuff I order weird.

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So it's like they don't have plain
quarter pounders ready to go, so

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like I'm used to waiting, I'll
wait for you to put the fucking quarter

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pounder at eight in the morning,
but they just don't do it. A

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quarter pounder eight in the morning is
delicious. I just can't imagine feeling great

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after that the rest of the day. I never feel great after I okay,

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well that's okay, that's the difference
about I think that's a different feel

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great after that. Yeah, people, you guys have different goals. You

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have different goals when you consume.
I just want to shove cheese in my

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face. Yeah, I don't care
how I feel after. We're not discussing

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future, dan, we're discussing Okay. Well, there you go. That's

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probably why the food thing doesn't translate. You got to You ordered a salad

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for the first time in a restaurant
though at brunch. Yeah, I got

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anecdote. But yeah, I never
ordered a salad I think at a restaurant

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before, unless I'm forgetting something.
But I wonder why that is. I

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mean a lot of times sometimes you
get a salad with your meal. I

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always turn it down. I always. I've never I'm not kidding. Anytime

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it's like, oh, we start
with a side salad, I just decline

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it, and they're like, it
comes with a meal, and I'm like,

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I don't care. I don't want
to take up precious stomach space that

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I could be filling with macaroni and
cheese, with some fucking lettuce and tomato.

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That's why salads start the meal,
because they don't take up any space.

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They're just leaves and weeds that like
here's physical form, there is mass

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and calories involved, barely compared to
I don't need crusts on pizza. I

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prioritize the stuff I want in my
stomach. I don't dislike crust. I

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will eat crust if I'm still hungry
if it's the only thing available, but

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I don't eat the crust because I
want all the good stuff first. Once

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all the good stuff's gone, if
all I have is the crust, let's

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go downs. Ending salad would be
better for you, I guess, but

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I don't. I don't want salad
generally ever, so I think I would

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just decline it. In most circumstances, I'm supposed to just give you some

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some good vibes. That way stomach, when it's got all this cheese in

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it, it can be like this. Salad's with us, guys. Every

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single time I've gone to like a
Chinese place or got to take out or

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something. If there's broccoli in there
with my general's chicken and rice, just

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get the broccoli the fuck out of
here. I got serious stuff to get

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to. Okay, chicken and I
got real food. Sounds like you need

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some athletic greens. It's no,
it's not stop it. Yeah, I

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eat. I eat salads fairly often. Yeah, it's my meal prep.

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It's like how I like get through
the week is I make salads in advance

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for the week, and then I
just have them in a little box and

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then I can grab them on my
very quick lunch break. My lunch breaks

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aren't quick. But what happens is
is I want to walk my dog.

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I walk my dog three times a
day, so in the morning, at

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noon, and after like a thirty
minute noon walk, I only have thirty

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minutes to smash food before I need
to be back at work, and that's

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not enough time to like cook a
meal. So a pre made salad is

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like where it's at. Bonk used
to do that when I was doing like

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meal prep in San Francisco, where
she would give me like one of those

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little supper wor things with the dividers
and she would like, oh, put

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the sauce in one and then the
salad and something the other salad that was

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that was my go to for a
while. That's adorable. I think it's

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really fun to have like a designed
curated lunch. If nothing else, it

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just makes you feel good that someone
thought about you that much, but they

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were like, I have designed this
aesthetically pleasing for you. If you look

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closely, there's a smiley face in
the olives. Ye. Well, New

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Year's Eve is only salad, so
deal with that. God damn it.

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Really no, no way we're going. We're going to like a dive bar.

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I'm so stupid. And all you
can eat salads and all you can

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eat salade cherry tomato my nose of
my ass too cherry or olive gardens.

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All you can eat salad is fucking
paradise in one out the other olive gardens.

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All you can eat bread sticks and
that's a million bread sticks and salad,

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all you can eat both. Never
done that. I get Alfredo sauce.

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Sara only dressing genuinely is like worth
eating even if you don't like salads.

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Their Italian dressing is so good that
I would recommend. Yeah, it's

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awesome. I've never had a salad
there, but they're like just big bowls

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of Alfreda that you can get breadsticks
in all night. That's that's a good

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Friday. I would just do the
all you can eat soup and sell and

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I'd get should go to Olive Garden
Ministries next time you come to New York

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City, Let's go to Olive Garden
the Time Square one I've been wanting to.

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Yeah, authentic, we do the
thing Mary you I and Jake,

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can't you? I and Jake whatever
however said, we'll get one table,

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we'll send Mike to another one,
and we'll do the thing where he requests

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them to sing Happy Birthday to him
by himself. I'm thinking about that ever

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since we talked about it, and
I really want to see that happen.

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That's Time Square. I would not
actually be surprised if that's happened before at

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the Times Square Olive Garden. Yeah. Like and ironically, I'm willing to

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bet at least one person that's done
it before at that location. Problem and

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ironically, but I still would waiter
waitress have I Oh yeah, yeah,

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I would have to imagine there's tons
of like stories when or somebody like has

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that type of job. I think
generally the main story is is that you're

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really underappreciated. Customers are the worst, and you get really blitzed every night

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after your shift because you have two
hundred dollars worth of ones in your pocket.

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That sounds about right. Yeah.
I worked at Texas Roadhouse, which

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is that like steak place where they
boast that they make all of their ingredients

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from scratch, including the rolls and
the honey butter, and then you can

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put the peanuts on the floor.
Oh yeah, yeah, that's fun.

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Spoiler alert. We fucking have to
sweep up those peanuts every night. Why

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don't they just have like a giant
dyson like fucking floor like and then just

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pushes it into a compact or thing. Why do that? You can have

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a person who makes two dollars in
fifty cents an hour do it? Oh

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yeah, wow, that sucks.
Yeah, that's that's my mom got paid.

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She worked at Maccaroni Grille and Chilies
and I was growing up. But

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she would do her side hustles while
she was on the clock, all incognito

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like. She would paint these ties, like really like kind of lavish ties

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of you know, hot glue and
glitter guns and stuff where it's like,

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oh, here's a Scooby Doo one, here's a Bart Simpson one, here's

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whatever popular thing is. And she
would wear them with the macaroni grill thing.

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Because she was allowed to wear different
ties, she had to wear the

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uniform for the other stuff, and
people would flare. Yeah. Yeah.

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People would always ask like, oh, wow, where do you get that

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tie because they were so loud and
everything. She's like, oh, actually,

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I make them, and I can
do custom ones. And so she

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would come back every shift with like
several custom jobs and then she's like,

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all right, and next time you
come in, i'll have you Oh you're

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coming in Friday, Okay, yeah, I'll ask for my table and I'll

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give you your tie. So yeah, she was getting the extra money on

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the side. There no dance flashes
ties, oh no, none of those.

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Yeah. I was just a hustler, right yeah. Copyright left for

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sure, not at Texas Roadhouse.
But I think right after that I got

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a job at like a like a
fancy steakhouse, and I just knew mathematically

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what to convince people to order that
would increase their bill a lot, because

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I wanted them because twenty percent of
a bigger bill is more money for me.

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So I would always be like,
you know, if you guys want

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a recommendation, you definitely want a
round of you know, Don Julio for

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the table flay minion covered in gold
flakes one hundred percent. I mean I

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was I was starving artist. I
was just trying to make it so you

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were catching me at my most rambunctious. Also again a total degenerate once the

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shift ended, because we had a
bunch of ones in our pockets and it

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was like, Okay, we're going
out now, and we would do that.

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We would go outuntil six in the
morning and just get totally hammered.

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I worked at a liquor store in
college, and like after the shift was

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over, like people would go in
the back room and just be like,

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all right, we're gonna bust open
all this liquor and just get sucked up

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after the thing. And like,
even as a college student who loved getting

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fucked up, I was still too
much of a goods like, Nope,

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nope, we're gonna get in trouble, gonna get in trouble. I didn't

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see anything. I'm going home going
No, didn't ark on anyone, but

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I would not in the in the
theft God, I thought you were cool.

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I was never cool. Yeah,
I think you're pretty cool. Now

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you're cool. I'm happy with my
situation. Yeah, I think that.

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I think your self awareness is cool
that you know. Yeah, you're you're,

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You're who you are. One of
my fun stories, one of my

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good stories I was a waitress,
was there was a guy and a girl

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who were out to dinner on a
date and um, she had a really

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low top on Um, like really
low there's does that mean the boob area

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or the stomach area? If someone
says, ad you see a lot of

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boobs past stomach. It was crazy. It was confusing. They talked about

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it with jeans too, like aren't
there like high cut and low cut jeans?

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And I don't know. I mean
it's going down to the vagina situation

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or low r but a low cut
shirt means low cut top. Yeah,

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and um, it wasn't my table, it was a friend of mine's table.

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And then her uh boob slipped out
and yeah, her nipple was like

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out up at the table. She
was just eating, but her shirt was

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loose enough for her nipples kind of
like just kind of, you know,

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just slid out and she didn't know, and the guy she was eating with

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didn't say anything, and the waiter
didn't know what to say, and so

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he went into the back and was
like, her, boob's out. I

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could see her nipple. I'm so
afraid that her like boyfriend or whoever's gonna

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get mad if I bring it up. So I don't know what to do.

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We were all like debating whether or
not he should say anything, and

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then the dishwasher said, you should
just say, ma'am, yo, titti

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is out, and he didn't because
he panicked, and so it just worked

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00:25:36.400 --> 00:25:37.960
itself out. It's still out.
Does that thing happened in forty year old

405
00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:44.799
Virgin or something? Yes, it
does. I think boob slippages probably happened

406
00:25:44.799 --> 00:25:49.000
more than we realized in society,
like most women. I mean, I

407
00:25:49.039 --> 00:25:52.599
think I've had one in my lifetime. Yeah, we all know. We

408
00:25:52.680 --> 00:26:00.599
all got to go someday situation like
I've seen it's happened in wrestling, But

409
00:26:00.599 --> 00:26:03.720
like people are getting like pedigreed in
wrestling, Like how does it happen when

410
00:26:03.720 --> 00:26:07.519
you're just going about your day?
I don't know. I mean, think

411
00:26:07.559 --> 00:26:11.960
about all those like uh, college, you know, liquor store drinking nights.

412
00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:15.319
You think at one point one one
of the girls in that situation,

413
00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:21.000
if you drinks of something, you're
not not going to boom out of a

414
00:26:21.039 --> 00:26:23.799
shirt. They're wiley, they have
the mind of their own. Sometimes I

415
00:26:23.799 --> 00:26:27.839
guess balls. I've never really had
balls or dick come out. Um,

416
00:26:27.920 --> 00:26:32.799
well yeah they're not. You're not
wearing the ball in society. Well yeah,

417
00:26:32.799 --> 00:26:34.039
I'm trying to think it is because
of what dude pants are like,

418
00:26:34.039 --> 00:26:38.799
like you're shorts, dick or balls
to flop out. Your cross isn't doesn't

419
00:26:38.839 --> 00:26:42.519
have a hole in it. Worry
if you're wearing pajama pants, which I

420
00:26:42.559 --> 00:26:45.720
do frequently, some of them don't
have a fucking button and I hate those.

421
00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:48.960
Sometimes you get some for Christmas and
they don't have the button and it's

422
00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:52.759
like, no, I can't just
be walking around. They got underwear on,

423
00:26:52.920 --> 00:26:56.279
right, Yeah, but underwear has
holes too, like boxers have holes.

424
00:26:56.559 --> 00:26:57.799
But it would have to make it
through both holes. Yeah, But

425
00:26:57.839 --> 00:27:02.480
I mean statistically there's a decent chance. Not really, I wouldn't say decent.

426
00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:07.559
So if I was like Hulu,
You're it's not understanding that you're wearing

427
00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:11.640
two layers of clothing with holes,
and you're saying that balls can absolutely pop

428
00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:15.319
out, but you can't fathom a
nip slip. Yeah. I was like

429
00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:19.279
playing like a game on the wee
balance board that requires you to do a

430
00:27:19.319 --> 00:27:22.759
bunch of like hip stuff or whatever. I could like, I could see

431
00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:29.119
situations where it could possibly happen,
and that would be disastrous. Disastrous.

432
00:27:29.880 --> 00:27:32.279
I think it could happen. So
that's why you gotta have the butt.

433
00:27:32.359 --> 00:27:36.359
But it was a disaster. His
ball went through both layers of clothing.

434
00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:41.640
We saw everything. I think then
dick would be way more like common I

435
00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:44.920
think, because that's dangly balls would
like especially one. If I would notice

436
00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:48.279
the difference, I would just be
like, well, if it was popping

437
00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:52.799
out through a double layer of pants, I would probably just be like,

438
00:27:52.839 --> 00:28:00.759
that's genitals, it's just flesh.
Well I'm not I'm not only getting down

439
00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:04.160
in there. I'm just aware that
there's steak happening. I got three balls.

440
00:28:04.160 --> 00:28:08.720
It just looks like a fidget spinner
down there. What's the center?

441
00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:15.319
That's a hole and just a bunch
of Yeah, it's an axle. One

442
00:28:15.759 --> 00:28:18.039
do they do they do? They
hit the dick every time it spins like

443
00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:22.319
one of those wheels, like the
wheel of forts and thing. I didn't

444
00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:23.359
say I have a dick. I
just have three balls. That's it.

445
00:28:25.480 --> 00:28:26.960
Oh, you have no dick,
you just have three balls. Okay.

446
00:28:27.119 --> 00:28:32.119
He replaced the dick with an extra
ball. It's like a wind I never

447
00:28:32.200 --> 00:28:36.039
said I had a dick. What
a twin had a penis? I assume

448
00:28:36.079 --> 00:28:41.680
you have three balls. Donkey Hoote
is charging at those things every day anyway,

449
00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:44.480
I think I get that reference.
Yeah, yeah, the dragons.

450
00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:45.599
He was in the windmills, right, he had a windmill a thing for

451
00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:48.279
him. Yeah. He thought they
were dragons, he pretended. Yeah.

452
00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:52.759
He was totally into dick and balls. No, only balls. I had

453
00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:59.880
a day. Hated dicks, just
loved dry balls. It was always searching

454
00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:04.720
fidget balls. So how are your
holiday? Oh? Well, Jesus is

455
00:29:04.759 --> 00:29:08.359
gonna being the reason for the season. U. No, Uh, it

456
00:29:08.440 --> 00:29:11.920
was good. I stayed here because
I was traveling a lot earlier, earlier

457
00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:15.880
this month, so I canceled my
flights. I originally had flights that I

458
00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:21.559
would have come back today, but
I was booked on Southwest and so it's

459
00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:25.440
a real good thing. I didn't
wind up going home for Christmas because I

460
00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:27.880
would have been fucked. Just a
meltdowns, it's been called in the headlines.

461
00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:33.720
Yeah yeah, and uh yeah.
My dad mocks me incessantly if I

462
00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:37.160
fly anything but Southwest, so I
get bullied into taking Southwest on the time

463
00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:40.319
and the reverse that opinion after this
month. No, he won't. He

464
00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:41.680
he just thinks if you fly United, their American, and he's, oh,

465
00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:45.000
my fancy, I need, I
need my fancies, Jack, and

466
00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:48.400
I need my first quash treatment to
me. He just mocks me so much

467
00:29:48.440 --> 00:29:51.039
and thinks I take fancy airlines because
I don't fly Southwest every time. Yeah,

468
00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:52.240
Paul, go fly one United flight
and tell me it's fancy. If

469
00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:56.960
you're not the same, exact hit, exacterally the same. You are treated

470
00:29:57.039 --> 00:30:02.799
like an animal on all of these
flights. Unless you go spirit then God

471
00:30:02.920 --> 00:30:07.160
help you. Yeah, your weary
soul, you are just treated like cargo

472
00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:11.119
at that point, not even animal, just like loose baggage with legs.

473
00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:15.839
You have to you have no fucking
foot space or leg leg space on any

474
00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:18.759
flight. It's all the same in
Southwest, as United as whatever, like

475
00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:23.079
it's it all sucks. Yeah,
I don't know what more now, or

476
00:30:23.079 --> 00:30:26.519
we're just like bigger now, or
I'm sure like there's studies on like I'm

477
00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:30.279
sure seat size and the leg space
and stuff have gone down dramatic they have,

478
00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:33.240
at least based on all the movies
TV shows I watch where they show

479
00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:37.440
them from like the sixties when they're
smoking cigarettes and had all the leg room

480
00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:38.799
in the world. That's what I
want to go back to. God,

481
00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:41.119
I want to smoke a cigaret.
I don't even smoke. I don't want

482
00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:45.559
to smoke a cigarette and have a
martini and like really kick up my legs

483
00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:49.799
on a flight and just be like, you know, a nineteen thirties girl.

484
00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:52.640
Yeah, I assume they didn't fly
in nineteen thirties, but you know

485
00:30:55.880 --> 00:30:59.119
that when it really kicked out,
probably in the fifties. Yeah. It

486
00:30:59.240 --> 00:31:03.200
was the thirty expensive to fly back
then, though, so it was like

487
00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:07.279
a high class thing. Was just
a bunch of like guys in black and

488
00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:11.519
white film, like running off cliffs
with things and flew fairly often the fifties,

489
00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:14.960
I believe. Yeah, yeah,
fifties, but thirties I don't even

490
00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:18.559
think it was a When When when
did they start becoming for commercially I'm curious.

491
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:22.119
Now. That'd be bold to be
among the first people to fly commercially,

492
00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:26.880
right, Yeah, I'd be really
scary, although I would probably do

493
00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:30.559
the space thing as soon as that's
available. I think I just watched We

494
00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:33.880
just watched Sunshine today. I don't
want to go into space anytime soon after

495
00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:37.799
seeing that movie again? Is that
Aaronovski or what was that? Danny Boyle

496
00:31:37.839 --> 00:31:41.119
directed it, Alex Garland wrote it. He went on to direct Annihilation in

497
00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:44.359
ex Machina No, Alex ARLs great. Yeah, he wrote it and Danny

498
00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:48.000
Boyle, who did Twenty Days Later
Millions, directed it. Okay, Oh,

499
00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:51.440
I love later. I always heard
that's good. I never saw it.

500
00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:53.960
He Killian Murphy's in it. Keilly
Murphy is one of the leads in

501
00:31:55.079 --> 00:32:01.640
Sunshine with Chris Evans, Rose Byrne
Michelle. Yo. It's stacked the cast,

502
00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:06.960
but it's it's like that hard sci
fi. I want to see it

503
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:08.519
now. Wait, did you are
you looking up the first like commercial flights?

504
00:32:09.880 --> 00:32:14.079
I'm looking up Sunshine the movie.
Oh yeah, we watched that today.

505
00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:17.839
We went on a movie. Speaking
of my holidays, we were we

506
00:32:17.839 --> 00:32:22.680
were the weather fucked with our flights
too, and we were also I was

507
00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:25.519
sick at first. Tested negative for
COVID like three times, but I had

508
00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:29.440
the symptoms. I couldn't taste anything, I had chest pain, my throat,

509
00:32:29.559 --> 00:32:34.400
my back. Tested negative a shit
ton, but like it just basically

510
00:32:34.519 --> 00:32:37.880
ended up being a very bad head
cold and Amanda got it, so we

511
00:32:37.960 --> 00:32:40.519
ended up not doing anything, which
it was. It was ultimately great because

512
00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:45.079
it gave us an excuse to just
stay inside during the arctic weather. Um.

513
00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:50.160
But yeah, we watched a bunch
of movies, caught up on twenty

514
00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:54.920
twenty two movies. I finally finished
The Northman. Um. I I like

515
00:32:55.000 --> 00:33:00.240
it. I think Robert Eggers Aggers
needs to chill out a bit. He's

516
00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:06.359
always director. Yeah, he did
The Witch and the Lighthouse horror movies.

517
00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:08.079
This has some horror elements, but
it's really good. I liked a lot.

518
00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:12.920
I'm mainly joking about him. Um. We watched Tar with Cape Blanchett.

519
00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:20.640
She's a composer and McConaughey as well. That's mud twenty twenty two movie.

520
00:33:21.319 --> 00:33:24.960
She's a like artist composer. I
don't think you'd like I liked it

521
00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:30.720
a lot. I don't. I
think this is like poison to boat.

522
00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:32.799
Maybe both of you, I think
would hate it. It could. It's

523
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:37.079
pretty pretentious, is it? Is
it oscar bait? What do you say?

524
00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:42.039
Well, it's definitely Oscar contender.
But it's also like an art house

525
00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:45.559
kind of movie in a lot of
ways. But I like that. I

526
00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:49.119
like art house movies. I think
maybe more of a film snob than people.

527
00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:54.119
It's not it's not the composition of
the movie. The first major scene

528
00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:58.119
is her doing an interview with a
New Yorker writer, an actual real life

529
00:33:58.119 --> 00:34:00.599
New Yorker writer named Adam Gopnick,
And it's one of those in conversation with

530
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:05.839
at the met and it's the most
up its own ass conversation ever, kind

531
00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:08.159
of on purpose, like they refer
back to it later and it's fascinating,

532
00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:13.239
but it's so pretentious it's supposed to
be. But again, like she's talking

533
00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:19.119
about musical theory and different composers,
and the main thrust of the movie is

534
00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:22.440
like she starts slowly getting not slowly, but she starts to get canceled,

535
00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:27.719
basically, And it's like an examination
of how certain people react to it and

536
00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:30.760
how people react it on both sides. It's not really like a soapboxy movie

537
00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:36.280
in terms of what we should think
about someone getting canceled, or whether they

538
00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:37.800
deserved it, or or like who
you should believe, et cetera. But

539
00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:43.400
it is pretty pretentious because she is
this composer who splits her time between her

540
00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:46.280
Berlin apartment at her New York apartment, and she's conducted like a lot of

541
00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:51.679
Maller and Beethoven, and it's I
don't know shit about classical music, but

542
00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:55.960
I like the movie a lot.
It was good. Then we watched Babylon,

543
00:34:58.079 --> 00:35:02.239
which the Danson movie with Margot Robbie
Right, Yeah, her, Brad

544
00:35:02.280 --> 00:35:07.880
pitt Um, Diego Calva. It's
the same director as a First Man,

545
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:10.880
La La Land, Whiplash, Damien
Chazelle Whiplash are great, like Whiplash a

546
00:35:10.920 --> 00:35:15.800
lot. Yeah, all the movies
are the same general theme of like do

547
00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:20.199
you want to become famous and immortal
or have friends and close family while you're

548
00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:22.639
alive? Like, it's kind of
the same thing. But it's about nineteen

549
00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:30.079
twenties Hollywood transition from silent films to
talkies. It's fun to watch, it's

550
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:32.440
pretty propulsive, but like, oh
my god, the last ten minutes.

551
00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:36.599
Damien Chazelle just in my opinion,
does not know how to end a movie

552
00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:37.880
Whiplash, I thought was a great
ending, but the rest of his movies

553
00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:44.039
just like you could have ended this
six times. And there's a specific movie

554
00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:45.920
clip shows up in it, Dan
that I'm tempted to have you watched Babylon,

555
00:35:46.440 --> 00:35:50.840
Justice mcgrouper sex scene. No,
but it's among one of your favorite

556
00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:52.199
I don't even want to spoil it
because and I'm not going to see the

557
00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:55.280
movie. Okay, Well, if
you want to see Babylon, haven't seen

558
00:35:55.280 --> 00:36:00.480
it yet, this like three hour
long movie, tune out for the next

559
00:36:00.519 --> 00:36:02.519
ten seconds I'll be concise the last
ten seconds in the movie. And the

560
00:36:02.519 --> 00:36:05.440
whole theme was like I want to
be part of something bigger. I want

561
00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:07.960
to contribute to Hollywood. It's this
big mammoth thing that like, yes,

562
00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:13.360
it causes abuse among a lot of
the people that working in it destroys lives,

563
00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:19.039
but like the last ten minutes are
this like montage of movie history from

564
00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:22.840
the nineteen twenties up until now.
A clip of Avatar shows up, and

565
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:27.760
then the shot of Michael Bean's or
not Michael Bean who plays the terminator,

566
00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:31.239
Mister Bean who plays the two one
thousand and Terminator two Robert Patrick Robert Patrick.

567
00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:35.960
It's when his face is coming back
together. They show that to the

568
00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:39.280
soundtrack to Babylon's incredible, but like
they show that that montage and movie,

569
00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:44.280
so like Avatar comes in and then
Terminator two comes in, Indiana Jones comes

570
00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:49.119
in and the montage along to the
Babylon soundtrack. It's weird and I need

571
00:36:49.159 --> 00:36:51.679
to rewatch it at some point when
I have three hours to spare. But

572
00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:54.679
oh, you see movies that are
three hours long, it sounds like movies

573
00:36:54.679 --> 00:36:59.280
for babies, not centiphiles like me. I saw a movie that was almost

574
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:01.639
three and a half hours long.
Wait which in the theaters. I saw

575
00:37:01.679 --> 00:37:07.039
the Avatar, the new one.
It's like three hours eighteen minutes or something.

576
00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:12.840
Yeah, it's so obnoxious to have
that. I'm telling you as someone

577
00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:15.639
who doesn't even really remember anything from
the first one and had no strong feelings

578
00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:21.440
about Avatar. Either way, it
was fucking fun. It was really fucking

579
00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:24.800
good. Me and Bonk both were
highly entertained, and it flew by like

580
00:37:24.920 --> 00:37:29.440
no watch checking anything. We did
the full on i Amax three D with

581
00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:31.199
a high frame rate and all that
shit, And my god, if that

582
00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:35.480
wasn't just like a ride for for
three and a half hours. It was

583
00:37:35.960 --> 00:37:39.440
awesome. I mean, at two
hundred and fifty million dollars to make,

584
00:37:39.960 --> 00:37:45.519
that is the most expensive movie per
minute you will ever watch. Well,

585
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:49.360
I mean it's like when James Cameron, like like Titanic was super over budget

586
00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:51.840
and cost it was the most expensive
movie ever at the time. It's like,

587
00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:54.400
well, became the most highest grossing
movie ever. Avatar did it again.

588
00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:57.440
So it's like I think at a
certain point, like he just keeps

589
00:37:57.519 --> 00:38:00.119
making the biggest movies ever. I
think he just has the ultimate blank check

590
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:04.559
in Hollywood, and it's like he
fucking he makes the most out of that

591
00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:06.320
money and all the time. I
mean, they filmed it all like four

592
00:38:06.360 --> 00:38:09.639
fucking years ago, and it's it's
really really good. They filmed it four

593
00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:13.880
years ago and it took it took
four years to edit. Yeah, because

594
00:38:13.880 --> 00:38:16.960
I saw Edie Falco was on the
View or something recently and she said that

595
00:38:17.039 --> 00:38:21.679
she recorded filmed it like four years
ago, and she assumed since it was

596
00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:23.199
so long ago, that it came
out and flopped. And so all of

597
00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:27.920
a sudden, like this year,
people started asking Eadie Falco, like,

598
00:38:27.960 --> 00:38:30.480
hey, Avatar is coming out,
and she's like what didn't that come out

599
00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:32.760
a couple of years ago. I
forget she's in it's so weird. She's

600
00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:36.639
briefly in it. Yeah, it's
not a bit big role. But yeah,

601
00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:39.800
like Avatar three is already completely filmed
and that's coming out in twenty twenty

602
00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:44.199
four, and then he's working on
four and five right now, and I'm

603
00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:46.440
suddenly like, I don't like give
a shit about the story or anything.

604
00:38:46.559 --> 00:38:50.679
It's just like I'm just excited for
Like that is such a go to the

605
00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:52.039
theater type of movie where it's like, all right, we're gonna go to

606
00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:57.280
the big fucking screen, put on
the dumb glasses and just have some metabals

607
00:38:57.280 --> 00:39:00.800
and have a good fucking time.
It was. It was great, really

608
00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:04.440
really liked it. I thought that
you were just saying a weird way to

609
00:39:04.440 --> 00:39:08.320
eat popcorn. I did. Oh, I'm ah, and you have some

610
00:39:08.440 --> 00:39:12.280
edibles, Oh, they'd feel like
shit because no, we went to like

611
00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:15.599
a cheesecake factory thing. Do you
know about the Grand Luxe Cafe. No,

612
00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:21.199
apparently cheesecake factory. It's like a
fancy cheesecake factory that's just the same

613
00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:23.000
thing, but they call it the
Grand Luxe Cafe and it's supposed to be

614
00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:27.039
like the upscale cheese factory. Cheesecake
factory. Anyway, we went to that.

615
00:39:27.320 --> 00:39:30.679
I ate a bunch, had some
cocktails. We had some some weed

616
00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:34.800
edibles and I ate those, and
then I went in and an hour into

617
00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:36.920
the movie, I'm like, I
need to go buy a giant tub of

618
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:39.159
pop bye. I didn't do my
brilliant trick because I'm an adult now.

619
00:39:39.480 --> 00:39:44.199
Um, I bought a giant tub
of popcorn for myself because I know box

620
00:39:44.280 --> 00:39:47.519
not into like movie theater popern that
much. I fucking load. I held

621
00:39:47.559 --> 00:39:53.519
my hand full blast on that fucking
awesome butter thing for felt like six and

622
00:39:53.559 --> 00:39:55.559
a half minutes. But I was
high and dry, so I don't know.

623
00:39:59.119 --> 00:40:02.480
Yeah, yes, just dunked so
much salt onto it. And I've

624
00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:06.679
never I don't know if I ever
sit down and eat a whole large popcorn

625
00:40:06.679 --> 00:40:08.880
by myself. I did in that
movie. I woke up in the middle

626
00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:14.800
of the night that night just my
stomach and everything just felt wrecked for our

627
00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:17.440
on a Christmas Eves that is you. Yeah, I was just like,

628
00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:21.920
why did I eat all of that
right after your giant cheesecake factory meal.

629
00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:25.559
It's surprised what you eat can make
you feel bad later on. It shouldn't

630
00:40:25.559 --> 00:40:28.800
be that way, though, because
it feels good when it's in your mouth,

631
00:40:28.840 --> 00:40:31.119
and then the rest of the time
it's bad and it takes longer when

632
00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:34.840
it's not in your mouth. Dude, the butter though, because that is

633
00:40:34.880 --> 00:40:38.599
like liquid. I don't think it's
real butter. Yeah, it tastes great,

634
00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:42.280
tastes, it's the real deal.
It's great. I just put your

635
00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:45.280
head under this big and just go
to town. It's just I literally have

636
00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:47.920
drank courtesy cups of that. When
I worked at AMC, we would fill

637
00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:51.679
up courtesy cups and dare each other, just straight up and drink the butter

638
00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:55.159
and the cup. That's to somebody, some cheap skake comes around asking for

639
00:40:55.280 --> 00:40:59.239
water, like some high falute and
customer. We can't give him a real

640
00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:01.159
deal cup because that's too much and
those costs money. So you give them

641
00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:04.800
a little courtesy cup, a little
white one, says courtesy cup on it.

642
00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:07.440
Nowadays especially dangerous because you got the
freestyle machines. If you don't have

643
00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:12.599
a clearly yeah, yeah exactly how
that the customers still up their own so

644
00:41:12.679 --> 00:41:15.840
does you got to make sure you
delineate that like, Okay, they paid

645
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:20.079
for this or they didn't pay for
it. That's why it's a courtesy you

646
00:41:20.079 --> 00:41:22.719
put butter in there. Yes,
I also made a manager throw up ones

647
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:25.599
because we would dare each other to
like make the most gross concoctions we could

648
00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:29.119
out of the things in the concession
stand, and I made one that was

649
00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:30.440
so rancid. I gave it to
my manager Alexis, and she was like,

650
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:32.480
I could do it, and she
got halfway through it and then start

651
00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:35.519
of running to the bathroom and then
puked on the floor on the way to

652
00:41:35.559 --> 00:41:39.199
the bathroom. It sounds like us
when we were doing our Godie deliberations.

653
00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:45.880
Yeah, that was you. Yeah, I was sick. I've learned that

654
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:52.280
I cannot have anything that tastes like
blood. I just can't like something inside

655
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:55.559
my brain was like no, no, no, no, no, you

656
00:41:55.599 --> 00:42:00.360
can't eat blood. Stupid and just
started like making me get of it.

657
00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:05.480
By the way, I uh,
very very good reaction to the Game of

658
00:42:05.480 --> 00:42:07.360
the Year stuff. I did see
a couple of comments to be like,

659
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:12.039
I can't believe these grown adults are
drinking to the point of vomiting on a

660
00:42:12.119 --> 00:42:15.800
podcast. It was like, did
you watch the We didn't drink so much

661
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:20.960
we puked. Mary ate a shitload
of poopy, bloody jelly beans because of

662
00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:27.079
it. I did mix three different
alcohols. I had wine, I had

663
00:42:27.559 --> 00:42:35.599
UH, we had whiskey, we
had UH fancy drinks, we had scotch,

664
00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:37.960
and I had beer. And when
I mix, I will get sick.

665
00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:43.159
But also, as a grown adult, it is my goddamn right to

666
00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:46.480
drink to the point where I puke. So fuck you almost like bring much

667
00:42:46.480 --> 00:42:50.000
to be right now and puke on
my shoes and that's my Yeah, yeah,

668
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:55.440
sorry dad that I didn't drink,
you know, professionally. What is

669
00:42:55.480 --> 00:43:00.960
that the exact opposite of what we
do on this we're drinking right now.

670
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:06.320
The whole podcast was kind of like
when we would get games. Yeah,

671
00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:08.840
I do not know rehditors. I
mean drinking an accessible amount in my moosehead

672
00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:13.639
guys, how is this too many
mooseheads? I didn't know redditors could be

673
00:43:13.719 --> 00:43:16.800
so judgmental. That's you were surprised. It's it's just certain subreddits. I

674
00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:22.320
think. I think the rest of
the Internet in general is just a Yeah,

675
00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:24.880
it's just crazy that people judging other
peoples and and and the worst part

676
00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:28.760
is that they're forced to listen to
podcasts that make them uncomfortable. Yeah,

677
00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:34.000
why do we make our podcast mandatory? Why did we do that more money?

678
00:43:34.360 --> 00:43:38.480
We should have thought that through party, like a fire Escape podcast party,

679
00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:43.719
because those are mandatory. Yeah,
by law, we can check that

680
00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:46.199
box when you uploaded to like go
to these people's houses, put a chair

681
00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:50.880
outside their bedroom window and just watch
them for a day and a night,

682
00:43:50.920 --> 00:43:53.159
and then letters and put it through
their mails. No, no, no,

683
00:43:53.159 --> 00:43:57.400
no, too much. I'm gonna
make a Reddit based on their real

684
00:43:57.480 --> 00:44:00.199
name that I've gathered from the mail. He's getting that Glinton's eye again,

685
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:04.639
and I'm gonna go to town.
I think they have undiagnosed depression for sure.

686
00:44:05.239 --> 00:44:07.159
Um, the way that they curl
their a's leads me to believe they

687
00:44:07.239 --> 00:44:13.920
might have some borderline personality disorder.
Also, they definitely eat too many bags

688
00:44:13.920 --> 00:44:15.679
of chips around dude, So I
don't know if he's going to see this,

689
00:44:15.719 --> 00:44:19.920
but he should really know that this
is Also they sold out when they

690
00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:22.519
started doing Boner pill ads. Um, there's just a lot that could be

691
00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:24.960
working on And I'm out for now, but I'll be back to comment on

692
00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:28.840
the next episode two Because they clockwork
orange my eyelids and I watch it.

693
00:44:29.360 --> 00:44:31.400
Also, don't listen to any podcasts
ever, if you can't handle boner pill

694
00:44:31.480 --> 00:44:36.079
lads. Yeah, no, for
sure, Um, yes I want to.

695
00:44:36.199 --> 00:44:39.079
We also we watched a lot.
Uh we have you see the glass

696
00:44:39.079 --> 00:44:42.960
Onion? Oh? Yeah, we
watched glass Onion. So I liked it.

697
00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:45.519
We rewatched Knives Out as well,
and I still like Knives Out a

698
00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:49.760
lot more. Yeah, I agree. I loved Knives Out and this one.

699
00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:53.320
I thought Glass Onion was funny and
fun like. I don't regret watching

700
00:44:53.320 --> 00:44:55.480
at all, but it felt a
little too on the nose with all of

701
00:44:55.519 --> 00:44:58.519
it's like eat the rich stuff.
I'm like, all right, I get

702
00:44:58.559 --> 00:45:00.599
it. That was also Knives Out, but a bit more subtle with a

703
00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:02.800
lot of it, all the cameos
and stuff, and it's just kind of

704
00:45:02.840 --> 00:45:06.719
like, I don't know, it
felt a little too cutesy and self aware.

705
00:45:06.800 --> 00:45:07.559
Where is the first one? Was
just like a really good movie,

706
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:10.800
you know. Yeah, but yeah, Mary fell asleep, he said,

707
00:45:12.360 --> 00:45:15.199
I fell asleep. Yeah, it's
not because it's bad, it's good.

708
00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:22.840
I had an edible. Turns out
those work well with movies, and I

709
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:27.199
was really comfy, and I think
it was before I don't know, and

710
00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:30.880
I'm gonna I can't spoil this film
because I don't know, but I've just

711
00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:34.960
been told it's got some turns in
it, you know, like throughout it.

712
00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:38.000
And I must have fallen asleep before
any of these big moments happened,

713
00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:42.880
because I was like, you know, did they find out who killed the

714
00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:45.559
guy? And everyone's like, oh, girl, you have been gone for

715
00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:50.119
a long time, and I was
like, well, I'll try again.

716
00:45:50.159 --> 00:46:00.199
I Yeah, he was my favorite. Actually, he's a good acting talked

717
00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:02.480
about a good acting. Yeah.
We talked about his Hollywood like second act

718
00:46:02.679 --> 00:46:07.519
on last episode or whatever episode it
was. I'm a fan. I like

719
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:12.239
don't think I really recognized him in
things before that, but that to me,

720
00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:14.960
and this is someone who like I
grew up with like the Rock,

721
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:17.519
and like really rooted for The Rock
in his Hollywood career. I think I'm

722
00:46:17.519 --> 00:46:21.199
just a little burnt out on the
Rock. Like I see him all the

723
00:46:21.239 --> 00:46:22.599
time, I don't really care.
I feel like he always plays the same

724
00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:28.239
role. Batista really surprises me with
his characters in his acting, and so

725
00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:30.760
I'd like to see more of that
guy. Yeah, and I feel like

726
00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:34.360
he's had mostly like kind of smaller
roles even like the Blade Runner stuff,

727
00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:37.280
like, you know, they're typically
smaller roles in the past, but this

728
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:39.079
one, he's definitely he's part of
that ensemble for sure in this one.

729
00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:43.559
Yeah, definitely, yeah, Yeah, it was good. I'd say,

730
00:46:43.599 --> 00:46:45.280
I think I gave the first one
like four and a half on letterbox.

731
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:47.679
I get this one like three.
It's it's still good. It's just a

732
00:46:49.440 --> 00:46:52.119
yeah, really hard to beat the
hype of the first one because it's such

733
00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:57.639
a phenomenal film and it's just so
I don't know, it's just like perfectly

734
00:46:57.679 --> 00:47:00.639
done. All the villains, all
the guys. You just like really root

735
00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:06.559
for everybody, and it's great.
Yeah, we have the fable means something

736
00:47:06.599 --> 00:47:10.119
else, we have the Fableman's on
deck next new Spielberg. Oh well,

737
00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:16.000
yeah, it's apparently pretty autobiographical.
Kid in a big family learns to make

738
00:47:16.039 --> 00:47:20.639
movies. Well Super eight was kind
of that too, But this looks a

739
00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:25.920
bit more Christmas films Die Hard,
Christmas Story, Hold one one and two,

740
00:47:27.039 --> 00:47:30.840
and The Grinch Jim Carrey, all
of which are still very of course,

741
00:47:31.320 --> 00:47:37.199
still very good. Dan, did
you say you haven't seen Jim No.

742
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:39.400
I was working at the theater when
it came out. I remember I

743
00:47:39.480 --> 00:47:43.199
was like a cool teenager at that
point. I couldn't be seeing kids movies

744
00:47:43.599 --> 00:47:45.039
once. I like Jim Carrey,
so no, I never saw it.

745
00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:52.039
I can see how you would think
that, but I think that, um

746
00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:57.760
oh my god, I'm most knocked
over my mic um uh. I think

747
00:47:57.760 --> 00:48:06.079
that it's extremely important that you give
it a whirle because it is like iconic

748
00:48:06.199 --> 00:48:10.039
now, and the way that Carrie
really pours himself into that role, like

749
00:48:10.119 --> 00:48:16.480
his acting is full commitment, like
one hundred percent, and I think he

750
00:48:16.519 --> 00:48:22.079
really owns just the weirdness and the
anger and the frustration of the Grinch where

751
00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:27.920
you love him and laugh at him
but also like root for him and despise

752
00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:30.360
him. Altogether, He's great.
He's It's a good movie, still very

753
00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:35.519
fun him going really into it,
Like has there ever been Can you guys

754
00:48:35.559 --> 00:48:38.519
think of any Jim Carrey role where
he wasn't fully invested. I'm trying to.

755
00:48:38.719 --> 00:48:43.960
I think he's one a phenominal actor. I just think that this one

756
00:48:44.039 --> 00:48:46.840
he's really able, kind of like
the Mask where he was really able to

757
00:48:46.920 --> 00:48:50.760
carry out you know what I'm talking
about. The action cartoon, which is

758
00:48:50.760 --> 00:48:52.519
basically what the Grinches. Well,
I mean, he was just able to

759
00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:58.199
fully commit to all of his wacky
shenanigans one percent, and I think he

760
00:48:58.280 --> 00:49:00.079
can't do that in every role,
even though he can be silly, yeah

761
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:04.320
thing, It's like he's like maybe
one of the most gifted physical comedians of

762
00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:07.519
all time, but like you know, in a Liar Liar or something like

763
00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:09.360
even other comedies or Truman Show,
it's not like it. He can be

764
00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:13.679
as outlandish as he could be in
like The Mask was exactly that, and

765
00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:15.320
I'm sure Grinch, you know,
being based on a cartoon is similar.

766
00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:20.239
So yeah, his facial expressions are
so animated in every feature, but in

767
00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:24.079
The Grinch, his whole body is
walking around just like this evil, like

768
00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:30.360
maniacal little being. It's ridiculous.
And he has so many prosthetics on.

769
00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:35.440
I mean, his ass is just
outrageous. He is a pair they That

770
00:49:35.480 --> 00:49:38.440
movie is still fucking hilarious. I
laughed consistently throughout it, but apparently it's

771
00:49:38.480 --> 00:49:40.639
funny. I don't think this is
an urban legend. I think this is

772
00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:45.440
true. He had like a Navy
seal pain management psychologist on hand at the

773
00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:51.119
set to help him deal with how
uncomfortable and hot and scratchy and painful.

774
00:49:51.159 --> 00:49:52.840
The suit was to put on and
off. God the fact check me on

775
00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:55.079
that, whoever's listening, or I'll
do it myself. But I'm pretty sure

776
00:49:55.079 --> 00:50:00.280
it was a nightmare for him to
shoot. But he I still can suddenly

777
00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:01.760
laugh throughout the whole thing today,
Like half my sense of humor is based

778
00:50:01.760 --> 00:50:06.239
on that character. Really just me
causing mission. It's really really funny.

779
00:50:06.360 --> 00:50:10.039
He's just a machie, mischievous little
shit and it's a very it's a very

780
00:50:10.079 --> 00:50:14.440
funny film, and it's not in
a jokey child way. I think adults,

781
00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:20.800
I think you should try it.
I also watched Muppet Christmas Carol,

782
00:50:20.920 --> 00:50:22.960
and I love that film very much, and I realized I don't think i've

783
00:50:22.960 --> 00:50:28.920
actually, like, really committed to
paying attention to it. But it's also

784
00:50:29.440 --> 00:50:34.800
very good, mostly because Michael Caine, who's like the only well maybe one

785
00:50:34.800 --> 00:50:39.039
of the main humans in it,
plays that role extraordinarily seriously. And there's

786
00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:42.960
always all these muppets in everyone,
and he's like, show me no more

787
00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:45.920
spirit, I don't want to know, and he's like not joking, like

788
00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:50.320
he's playing it like he's on Broadway
and he is like the most committed actor

789
00:50:50.360 --> 00:50:53.400
of all time, and he's surrounded
by by Kermit the Frog. Talk about

790
00:50:53.400 --> 00:50:57.400
another guy, another actor that's just
like always always on. I just feel

791
00:50:57.440 --> 00:50:59.519
like anytime he pops up in a
movie, I was like, Oh,

792
00:50:59.559 --> 00:51:01.599
Michael into here. Okay, great, he's gonna even if a movie sucks,

793
00:51:01.639 --> 00:51:06.519
like he's going to be amazing.
He is perfect and he does such

794
00:51:06.519 --> 00:51:09.199
a good job in that. That
has always been a joy for me to

795
00:51:09.320 --> 00:51:13.920
watch. So I loved seeing that
again. I'm trying to think if there's

796
00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:15.760
any I always watch Christmas Story,
and I always I was one of those

797
00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:20.840
families that watched it on repeat because
they would play it for twenty four hours.

798
00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:23.000
So when we watch a Christmas Story, we watch it and then we

799
00:51:23.000 --> 00:51:27.760
watch it again, and then we
watch it again. Yeah, Christmas day,

800
00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:30.599
I can see a Christmas Story like
four times and not complain. It's

801
00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:32.960
just this thing I keep in the
background. Okay, background, not full

802
00:51:34.079 --> 00:51:37.679
attention. I'm watching it too.
It's such a good it's so many good

803
00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:39.679
lines. Like I think it's phenomenal. But yeah, like I just we

804
00:51:39.800 --> 00:51:45.360
watch it consistently like crazy people and
just don't nobody can comments on it.

805
00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:47.920
We just watch it again. Not
to get a super political. I saw

806
00:51:47.960 --> 00:51:52.880
a tweet going around about how A
Christmas Story is just one of our most

807
00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:57.480
cherished movies and it's about getting your
kid a gun for Christmas. I'm like,

808
00:51:57.800 --> 00:52:00.760
well, hold on the whole movie. They're telling him that. It's

809
00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:02.960
like everybody in his life except for
his dad is telling him he'll shoot his

810
00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:06.320
eye out and it's dangerous. And
what is the first thing that happens when

811
00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:08.360
he finally shoots it. He almost
shoots his eyeu but glasses on. So

812
00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:10.679
I think it's actually a bit of
a caution I tell it. Yes,

813
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:15.039
it's like a fantasy. But like
I I'm all for like deconstructing old movies

814
00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:16.800
and be like, oh that was
a product of its time. But this,

815
00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:22.599
I'm like, do you have a
Christmas started alone? You're not the

816
00:52:22.679 --> 00:52:25.039
same movie the same the way that
like it's being told to you. I

817
00:52:25.039 --> 00:52:28.880
don't know. It was just funny
to see that. What about the proper

818
00:52:29.199 --> 00:52:34.320
ganda of the radio show that he
listens to trying to sell kids oval team,

819
00:52:34.400 --> 00:52:37.719
Why don't we ever talk about the
commercialization of our youths? Yeah,

820
00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:40.519
it's about capitalism, sure, yeah, yeah, that's the real problem with

821
00:52:40.599 --> 00:52:45.440
that perfect film. Oh my god, that Darren McGavin, the dad in

822
00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:46.960
that movie. The actor died a
couple of years ago. That dude.

823
00:52:47.159 --> 00:52:50.880
I was sad when I heard about
that. He's so fucking funny in that

824
00:52:50.920 --> 00:52:53.679
movie. Still, his profanity when
he goes into the furnace is incredible.

825
00:52:54.400 --> 00:53:00.519
Yes, not a finger. And
I also saw let's just say thinking about

826
00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:04.840
like those dads I saw Elf.
Elf is such a good classic and it

827
00:53:04.880 --> 00:53:08.880
also has a really good dad character
in that con right he died, Yeah,

828
00:53:08.920 --> 00:53:15.599
and he passed this year. I
think it was very recent and he

829
00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:17.480
really played the heck out of that
role as well, where he like,

830
00:53:19.599 --> 00:53:23.679
I don't know, he's just got
this like insane son, just processing how

831
00:53:23.719 --> 00:53:29.880
to deal with it. He thinks
he's an ELF and the I don't know.

832
00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:32.440
Just like, there's so many iconic
lines in that film, uh,

833
00:53:34.159 --> 00:53:37.400
that are really really good, and
I think that one is up there with

834
00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:43.159
the current classics. Elf like became
a coveted classic that came up recently.

835
00:53:43.960 --> 00:53:45.159
I can't remember his bonk or someone
brought up like, oh, what what

836
00:53:45.320 --> 00:53:49.519
is like a recent what's the most
recently classic? You know, there's like

837
00:53:49.559 --> 00:53:51.639
you know, you have your Christmas
stories and stuff like that, and Grant

838
00:53:51.679 --> 00:53:55.119
janalad Elf was like, oh four. And I feel like that has definitely

839
00:53:55.519 --> 00:53:59.239
especially with people that are like you
know, and they're they're twenties and thirties

840
00:53:59.239 --> 00:54:00.679
now and we're like young when it
came out, you know, think of

841
00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:04.880
ll very finally what is post?
Oh yeah, yeah, Buk said Love

842
00:54:04.920 --> 00:54:08.440
actually is probably up there. Um. Yeah, trying to think of other

843
00:54:08.480 --> 00:54:13.039
ones that like are talked about in
that league. You know. I guess

844
00:54:13.039 --> 00:54:15.039
I don't really see a lot of
Christmas fook, so I don't know,

845
00:54:15.199 --> 00:54:17.119
you don't, nah, I don't
think so. My friends were telling me

846
00:54:17.159 --> 00:54:22.199
to watch something called Klaus on Netflix. It's a Christmas Clause is so good?

847
00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:24.280
What is that about? Yeah?
Um, it's kind of the origin

848
00:54:24.400 --> 00:54:30.840
story of Santa Clause. I guess
it's kind of more of its like Norwegian

849
00:54:30.880 --> 00:54:37.679
background, the true story or I
mean, uh, legend I suppose,

850
00:54:37.800 --> 00:54:43.360
right, because um, before Clause
was Clause, there was a person,

851
00:54:43.559 --> 00:54:47.480
right, and that that became the
legend of of Santa Clause and so it

852
00:54:47.559 --> 00:54:51.400
kind of goes into that a little
bit. It's very charming, and I

853
00:54:51.440 --> 00:54:55.000
will say that the animation is shockingly
good, especially for like stuff that you

854
00:54:55.039 --> 00:55:00.519
see on Netflix. I always find
the animations on like Netflix are so abysmally

855
00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:02.440
bad sometimes or just like get it
done, you know, just like make

856
00:55:02.519 --> 00:55:08.440
it exist. But Klaus is phenomenally
animated. It's it's it's kind of championing

857
00:55:08.440 --> 00:55:13.880
and pioneering animation techniques that I think
you'll see in future animation. So it's

858
00:55:13.880 --> 00:55:17.320
a very very modern look at it. But it's it's a delicate and well

859
00:55:17.360 --> 00:55:20.159
done film. Oh you know what
I saw that just came out. I

860
00:55:20.199 --> 00:55:22.920
saw a violent night. Oh that's
what The Stranger Things got, right,

861
00:55:23.199 --> 00:55:25.679
it is it's the guy do you
have you heard of that, Mike.

862
00:55:25.760 --> 00:55:34.280
It's like the concept is like Santa
but he's killing people. Yeah, he

863
00:55:34.320 --> 00:55:38.239
goes. He's like, legit Santa
Claus. He's not spoilers like in the

864
00:55:38.519 --> 00:55:45.119
trailer, he's actually Santa Claus.
And he is in a house as it

865
00:55:45.159 --> 00:55:51.039
gets taken over by I don't know, bad people and there's hostages and they

866
00:55:51.079 --> 00:55:53.079
go after him because he's in the
house even though he's just trying to deliver

867
00:55:53.119 --> 00:56:00.320
packages, and he just starts killing
everybody and it's really fucked up, and

868
00:56:00.360 --> 00:56:05.960
it's extraordinarily violent. It's it's actually
really funny. Is it played straight or

869
00:56:06.039 --> 00:56:08.320
is it like played like a comedy. It is, it is a duel.

870
00:56:08.559 --> 00:56:13.559
It is absolutely self aware. Um, it knows that what it's trying

871
00:56:13.559 --> 00:56:16.480
to do is stupid, and so
it is joking in several ways and it

872
00:56:16.519 --> 00:56:21.960
has some really good laughy bits,
especially uh, it's joking with everything in

873
00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:25.639
this film is a Christmas like pun
or joke. Um. Even like the

874
00:56:25.679 --> 00:56:30.679
bad guys are like I'm you know, Rudolf, and like these are my

875
00:56:30.920 --> 00:56:32.920
you know, these are my eight
reindeer. And it's like all his like

876
00:56:32.960 --> 00:56:38.599
backup guys with guns, They're all
they're all being self aware. But the

877
00:56:38.760 --> 00:56:45.440
violence is very raw and real.
It earns it's r rating. Um.

878
00:56:45.480 --> 00:56:50.679
And I will just say this,
Fans of Home Alone will like absolutely lose

879
00:56:50.719 --> 00:56:53.199
it at a couple scenes in this
film, like there is there is a

880
00:56:53.280 --> 00:57:00.800
very Home Alone inspired section of this
film that I just I just lost it.

881
00:57:00.800 --> 00:57:05.360
It's just like really really entertaining.
I was delightfully surprised with how funny

882
00:57:05.599 --> 00:57:08.559
Violent Night was at least entertaining.
It's opening sequence is disgusting, but other

883
00:57:08.639 --> 00:57:15.199
than that, I think it's very
it's it's worth seeing. Nice you're disgusting

884
00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:20.960
or bad. Disgusting opening sequence,
it's like disgusting. I didn't like it,

885
00:57:21.039 --> 00:57:24.440
but then it went up from there. Okay, it's like, Yeah,

886
00:57:24.480 --> 00:57:29.159
I think it's trying to set the
precedent of what type of level of

887
00:57:29.519 --> 00:57:36.480
comedy this is. And it's visceral
body humor, extreme gore and violent comedy

888
00:57:36.760 --> 00:57:37.920
is what it is. So if
you don't like that, you ain't gonna

889
00:57:37.960 --> 00:57:42.320
like this film. And I think
it tries to set that precedent right away.

890
00:57:42.679 --> 00:57:45.000
It is not a smart movie.
It is a dumb movie for dumb

891
00:57:45.079 --> 00:57:51.320
dumbs. There's like people on jet
skis like and Santa is like on the

892
00:57:51.440 --> 00:57:55.639
jet ski, I'm like shooting at
people. You're talking to two centophiles here

893
00:57:55.639 --> 00:58:00.039
in me and much. I mean, it's not it's not three and a

894
00:58:00.039 --> 00:58:02.920
half hours long, so I don't
know if you'd appreciate it. I felt

895
00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:06.239
I felt like a fool. I
watched Face Off again and that was only

896
00:58:06.280 --> 00:58:07.960
two and a half hours long,
so I felt like a fool. Yeah,

897
00:58:08.199 --> 00:58:10.599
we watched Wet Hot American Summer when
you were here. We did this

898
00:58:10.679 --> 00:58:14.760
week. It was really good.
You're like a lot, it's speaking of

899
00:58:14.800 --> 00:58:17.199
dumb movies, that that was a
movie that just reveled and rolled around and

900
00:58:17.320 --> 00:58:21.599
being a dumb dumb movie and dumb
damna. Do I love that? Yeah,

901
00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:23.039
yeah, it is a good dumb
dumb movie. It's such an honest,

902
00:58:23.199 --> 00:58:25.760
dumb dumb movie. I think we
did talk about it a little bit

903
00:58:27.360 --> 00:58:30.639
on the car ride. It was
Yeah, yeah, that was very good

904
00:58:30.679 --> 00:58:34.079
though. Yeah, I got I
got a few more movies to catch up

905
00:58:34.079 --> 00:58:37.599
on from twenty twenty two. Might
see Avatar in theaters. If I don't

906
00:58:37.599 --> 00:58:39.679
see in theaters, I probably won't. So yeah, I feel like if

907
00:58:39.679 --> 00:58:43.280
I don't see in theaters, I'm
not going to see it. But now

908
00:58:43.320 --> 00:58:45.679
that you're saying that it's good,
I do think that my local theater is

909
00:58:45.719 --> 00:58:51.760
showing Avatar. So you kind of
like, do imax three D and uh

910
00:58:52.079 --> 00:58:54.519
if if it specifies to the high
frame rate thing? Um, Because I

911
00:58:54.599 --> 00:58:58.400
talked to Jan at Giant Bomb and
he he saw it twice, like in

912
00:58:58.440 --> 00:59:00.320
the same week, so at once
and realized he didn't see like the high

913
00:59:00.320 --> 00:59:02.840
frame rate version and went back and
saw it again because he liked it so

914
00:59:02.920 --> 00:59:07.639
much the first time. Yea,
the frame rate stuff is actually really good.

915
00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:09.719
It's it alternates between like twenty four
frames a second and forty eight frame

916
00:59:09.760 --> 00:59:14.039
a second for like action things like
so if they're flying or they're underwater or

917
00:59:14.039 --> 00:59:16.000
whatever, it switches to kind of
that like, but it doesn't look like

918
00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:20.239
shitty motion smoothing or anything. It
actually works really well with a three D

919
00:59:20.880 --> 00:59:23.280
H God, damn. I just
yeah, it was so much goddamn fun.

920
00:59:24.039 --> 00:59:28.599
I hhly recommend it. Cool.
It's cool. You guys want to

921
00:59:28.599 --> 00:59:31.239
talk about video games? Oh sure, all right. I don't think we

922
00:59:31.280 --> 00:59:35.320
have talked about video games much in
the last two weeks, so this might

923
00:59:35.360 --> 00:59:37.760
be a very long section because we
have a lot to catch up on.

924
00:59:37.480 --> 00:59:39.559
No, I'm just kidding. We
did our Game of the Year thing.

925
00:59:40.159 --> 00:59:44.840
There's still there's still something has come
out since then. Yeah, so I'm

926
00:59:44.880 --> 00:59:47.239
playing Fire and woman Gage. Unfortunately, can't talk about it yet. I'll

927
00:59:47.239 --> 00:59:51.480
have way more to say on the
next episode for sure. When our next

928
00:59:51.480 --> 00:59:57.519
episode look at fancy guy that's not
a Nintendo jail. I'm it's when is

929
00:59:57.559 --> 01:00:01.920
our next episode the sixteen? We
could talk more about scheduling, but uh,

930
01:00:01.960 --> 01:00:05.480
yeah, I'm playing. Talk about
it after I start playing it.

931
01:00:05.519 --> 01:00:07.719
On the twentieth or whenever it comes
out. Yeah, I'll join you soon.

932
01:00:07.920 --> 01:00:12.320
Cool. I'm looking forward to talking
about it with Yeah. I am

933
01:00:12.559 --> 01:00:16.159
Amanda and I did play some co
op Super Mario Odyssey today. I we

934
01:00:16.239 --> 01:00:19.880
have two switches in the house now, but we had some fucked up joy

935
01:00:19.920 --> 01:00:22.960
Cons. I was getting joy Con
drifts. So one of the Christmas gifts

936
01:00:22.960 --> 01:00:27.079
I got hurt was the watermelon colored
joy Cons. So now we both have

937
01:00:27.079 --> 01:00:30.719
our own switch. So we had
it out and she loved Mario sixty four.

938
01:00:30.840 --> 01:00:32.559
She loves Sunshine, so I was
like, oh, you know plays

939
01:00:32.639 --> 01:00:37.199
Yeah, I love Sunshine. Yeah. Is she awake? She's gonna pop

940
01:00:37.199 --> 01:00:40.119
in and say and I can tell
her yeah at her and say that I'm

941
01:00:40.239 --> 01:00:44.800
very she's on the right side of
history with Mario Sunshine. Yeah, Amanda

942
01:00:44.960 --> 01:00:49.000
Dan says, you're on the right
side of history for liking Super Mario Sunshine.

943
01:00:51.119 --> 01:00:53.000
She'll I think she heard me.
But we played the co op of

944
01:00:53.000 --> 01:00:57.199
Super Mario because she hadn't played a
three D Mario. She I don't think

945
01:00:57.199 --> 01:01:02.079
she played either. Galaxy Super Odyssey
still really really really good game. It's

946
01:01:02.159 --> 01:01:06.920
fucking I played through it again this
year. It is just ridiculously good.

947
01:01:07.320 --> 01:01:10.400
Yeah, I like it quite a
bit the good I don't think the Cappy

948
01:01:10.760 --> 01:01:16.400
controls are basically both players can control
the camera if they want to, and

949
01:01:16.400 --> 01:01:21.519
I kept forgetting that so like I
would accidentally move the camera just that of

950
01:01:21.599 --> 01:01:24.199
instinct, even though Amanda was playing
as Mario. Um. Once I learned

951
01:01:24.199 --> 01:01:27.880
to stop that, it was less
annoying. But you're you're just a hat.

952
01:01:28.599 --> 01:01:31.599
It's more involved in Galaxy, where
you're just literally picking up starbits on

953
01:01:31.639 --> 01:01:36.920
the screen shooting them. Yeah you
are. You can shoot Cappy out and

954
01:01:36.920 --> 01:01:40.719
then basically spin around as him and
hit enemies. Um, but when you

955
01:01:40.719 --> 01:01:44.480
are Cappy, you get to decide
when you're leaving Mario's head or does the

956
01:01:44.519 --> 01:01:49.280
Mario decide and then stuff. Both
can but like we figured it out,

957
01:01:49.320 --> 01:01:52.159
it's like, okay, I'll just
press the Cappy button once you take something

958
01:01:52.199 --> 01:01:55.480
over like the t Rex or the
bean sprouts. Amanda controls it as well,

959
01:01:55.840 --> 01:02:00.719
So it's definitely SuDS. The fucking
steam Gardens music, the beach surf

960
01:02:00.760 --> 01:02:04.599
Oh it's awesome, yes, yeah, oh my god, which is funny

961
01:02:04.599 --> 01:02:07.840
because it's like the Woodlands planet.
But then you get this beach butt surfer

962
01:02:07.920 --> 01:02:09.400
rockets awesome. Whatever. I don't
know what the reasoning is. It just

963
01:02:09.480 --> 01:02:15.480
kicks. It's so good. It's
not Mario. It's like every Mario track

964
01:02:15.599 --> 01:02:17.559
is fucking amazing. And then here
comes to surf Guitar out of nowhere at

965
01:02:17.599 --> 01:02:20.719
a level that doesn't even make sense
for it, believe it, and it's

966
01:02:20.719 --> 01:02:22.599
like, oh, this is like
the best track in the game, even

967
01:02:22.599 --> 01:02:24.719
outside of Toasts raina town. Amanda
saw the human with a crash tack.

968
01:02:24.920 --> 01:02:27.880
She's like, what the fuck.
I'm like, oh, yeah, there's

969
01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:30.960
new Donk City in the game later
on. Don't ask questions, don't ask

970
01:02:31.000 --> 01:02:35.599
him yet. Everything will be explained
wise for sure. But it's been fun.

971
01:02:36.480 --> 01:02:39.360
Oh it all gets explained and scientifically
it all checks out. Actually do

972
01:02:39.400 --> 01:02:43.039
a pretty remarkable job with that.
Yeah, it's hard sci fi, but

973
01:02:43.079 --> 01:02:45.320
that's basically all I've been playing,
and that's been a blast. It's a

974
01:02:45.360 --> 01:02:50.559
good holiday, like play whatever we
want and some other stuff for work,

975
01:02:50.639 --> 01:02:53.400
but not much for work. It's
been great. Nice What about you,

976
01:02:53.440 --> 01:02:57.159
Mary, Um, I've been playing
a lot, and I think it was

977
01:02:57.199 --> 01:03:00.599
because I had the flight to you
guys, which is I mean, that's

978
01:03:00.639 --> 01:03:05.960
a long flight, it's six hours, and then the flight home and I

979
01:03:06.000 --> 01:03:08.199
thank you I was grateful to go. I don't mean that to sound like

980
01:03:08.800 --> 01:03:14.559
I had six hours there and another
six hours homes for paying for it.

981
01:03:14.559 --> 01:03:17.519
I should say more specifically, loved
every minute of it, and I got

982
01:03:17.519 --> 01:03:22.039
to catch up on my steam deck
games that I've been playing a lot of

983
01:03:22.679 --> 01:03:25.599
these were games that I was like, I don't know if they're going to

984
01:03:25.679 --> 01:03:30.119
make it into our godie, but
I do think it's fun. Like I

985
01:03:30.159 --> 01:03:31.760
got these games, I should play
them because they came out this year,

986
01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:38.079
so I'll burn through a couple of
them. Robot Resistors which is a clone

987
01:03:38.079 --> 01:03:47.199
of Vampire Survivors, so very similar
in vain. It is automatic weapon firing.

988
01:03:47.559 --> 01:03:52.039
Your focus is on the upgrades,
as you could imagine. Instead of

989
01:03:52.039 --> 01:03:58.679
a vampire world, it is a
robot world. You are upgrading your robot

990
01:03:58.920 --> 01:04:03.960
and destroying everything around you. It
has very different concepts on like AoE damage

991
01:04:04.039 --> 01:04:09.400
and it's attack systems. There's like
certain things in Vampire Survivors that are very

992
01:04:09.440 --> 01:04:14.000
limiting on purpose, right like the
whip hitting front and then back. This

993
01:04:14.039 --> 01:04:17.599
game is really trying to get you
to be a bit more mobile, I

994
01:04:17.639 --> 01:04:21.760
think, and get you to try
out different types of upgrade systems. It's

995
01:04:21.800 --> 01:04:26.840
really more of a game that if
you like Vampire Survivors, you could give

996
01:04:26.880 --> 01:04:31.280
this to try and basically take a
fresh spin on it. And yeah,

997
01:04:31.360 --> 01:04:34.440
I was kind of told this week. I don't know the accuracy of this

998
01:04:34.519 --> 01:04:39.800
that, like Vampire Survivors is also
self admittedly like a clone. Right,

999
01:04:39.840 --> 01:04:44.360
It's not like this original concept like
this guy like saw a game and loved

1000
01:04:44.400 --> 01:04:45.679
it and wanted to make his own
version of it. This is probably very

1001
01:04:45.679 --> 01:04:50.280
similar a love letter trying to update
or come up with what they think is

1002
01:04:50.320 --> 01:04:55.880
the best and ultimate ways to take
down thousands of them enemies and robot resistors.

1003
01:04:56.079 --> 01:05:00.159
Is this on Switch? I'm playing
it on Steam Deck, so I

1004
01:05:00.199 --> 01:05:02.719
don't think so. I'm gonna make
a note of this because like, I

1005
01:05:02.719 --> 01:05:08.159
haven't played any of the any of
the clones or whatever Vampire Survivors, And

1006
01:05:08.679 --> 01:05:11.480
honestly, at this point I've played, I've done everything you can do in

1007
01:05:11.519 --> 01:05:14.880
that game twice, like I and
I'm not tired of it. If there's

1008
01:05:14.920 --> 01:05:16.320
good clones out there, I would
like to try it. I would especially

1009
01:05:16.360 --> 01:05:18.880
like one that's on the Switch.
I mean, I haven't been as deep

1010
01:05:18.920 --> 01:05:23.320
into this, so, like,
what's cool about Vampire Survivors is its depth.

1011
01:05:23.400 --> 01:05:26.280
So I can't speak to its depth
because I haven't play. I haven't

1012
01:05:26.320 --> 01:05:29.239
put ten hours into this. I've
played a couple hours on a plane.

1013
01:05:29.519 --> 01:05:31.880
It's a good clone so far.
It gives me the same vibes as Vampire

1014
01:05:31.960 --> 01:05:39.199
Survivors. Okay, I played Islets
and I beat it. Absolutely love Islets.

1015
01:05:39.239 --> 01:05:44.960
I think it's a really great Metroid
Vania. You are a little dude.

1016
01:05:45.079 --> 01:05:46.280
I might hopefully, I know.
I talked about it on a podcast.

1017
01:05:46.280 --> 01:05:48.119
I don't think I told you guys
that I beat it. Um,

1018
01:05:48.239 --> 01:05:53.519
I have finished it. It's phenomenal. I love it. Um, Metroid

1019
01:05:53.559 --> 01:05:58.079
Vania upgrade. Your character beat really
insane little bosses. But it looks like

1020
01:05:58.119 --> 01:06:03.400
a Ghibbli film. It's super cute. Hell Is. Others played this for

1021
01:06:03.440 --> 01:06:12.679
a couple hours. This is an
interesting one, top down, very confusing

1022
01:06:12.960 --> 01:06:16.559
start. You are in a room
and you are being told to go outside

1023
01:06:16.559 --> 01:06:20.320
and take care of some tasks.
You all of a sudden are like,

1024
01:06:20.719 --> 01:06:25.239
it's not top down. When the
game starts its side view, I think

1025
01:06:25.239 --> 01:06:30.440
your landlord is a bunny or something, and you're gifted a plant that needs

1026
01:06:30.440 --> 01:06:34.119
blood. You're very like mysterious story
you're playing this on my couch here after

1027
01:06:34.159 --> 01:06:36.440
a game of the year, and
you're like, oh, it's top down,

1028
01:06:36.480 --> 01:06:39.360
now, what the fuck is going
on? It sounded like a very

1029
01:06:39.400 --> 01:06:43.159
interesting game. Just face on your
reactions keeps mixing it up on you.

1030
01:06:43.199 --> 01:06:45.880
It is complicated a little. It's
very talky. There was a lot of

1031
01:06:45.920 --> 01:06:48.920
talk in the beginning. I did
spin past most of it, and then

1032
01:06:48.960 --> 01:06:54.079
you get your first gun and there's
some enemies that kind of come out of

1033
01:06:54.119 --> 01:06:58.360
nowhere. Audio is quite interesting in
that game. So your view is cone

1034
01:06:58.440 --> 01:07:00.480
vision, so you see like a
own out from you. You do not

1035
01:07:00.519 --> 01:07:03.800
see what's behind you. That kind
of makes it really spooky, especially in

1036
01:07:03.880 --> 01:07:08.039
dark. But you can hear,
so you can hear someone that's coming out

1037
01:07:08.039 --> 01:07:11.639
of a door, and then you
need to like make sure your cone can

1038
01:07:11.679 --> 01:07:15.159
see them so that you can shoot
them or you're vulnerable for an attack.

1039
01:07:15.400 --> 01:07:18.480
I haven't gotten too much into this
story yet, but you are able to

1040
01:07:18.559 --> 01:07:23.119
like loot the houses and get items
out of the houses. I collected some

1041
01:07:23.159 --> 01:07:26.480
items for a person as a fetch
quest returned back to my house. That

1042
01:07:26.519 --> 01:07:29.760
gave me blood for my plant,
which fed my plant for the evening.

1043
01:07:30.400 --> 01:07:33.400
I am very intrigued by this game. It did hook me with its story

1044
01:07:33.480 --> 01:07:38.360
and concept, but I haven't been
able to dive more into the world.

1045
01:07:38.440 --> 01:07:44.599
But a very interesting environment nonetheless of
like looting, shooting, acquiring things for

1046
01:07:44.679 --> 01:07:48.440
your home, and then definitely a
deep seedy underbelly of a town that I'm

1047
01:07:48.480 --> 01:07:59.440
still trying to investigate. Hell is
others. It's the indie Lightning Round Melatonin.

1048
01:08:00.239 --> 01:08:06.280
M you guys heard about Melatonin.
You were on Twitch screaming this and

1049
01:08:06.320 --> 01:08:10.760
I looked it up, and it's
like a rhythm type thing, right.

1050
01:08:10.920 --> 01:08:17.800
It is a rhythm based indie game, which is surprisingly not calming because the

1051
01:08:17.880 --> 01:08:21.920
rhythm is very intense and you need
to make sure that you're on beat.

1052
01:08:23.680 --> 01:08:28.680
Visually, the game is a dream. It's all pastel dreamlike sequences. You're

1053
01:08:28.680 --> 01:08:30.000
literally in a dream in the game. So the idea is like you're eating

1054
01:08:30.039 --> 01:08:33.880
pizza on the couch. You've fallen
asleep in the dream. The game takes

1055
01:08:33.880 --> 01:08:39.720
place in your dream, and you
will dream about things like playing baseball in

1056
01:08:39.760 --> 01:08:44.960
the clouds and like shooting baseballs that
come out of the clouds, or going

1057
01:08:45.079 --> 01:08:50.159
shopping and like getting shoes and diamond
earrings, and like swiping your credit card,

1058
01:08:50.279 --> 01:08:54.640
and so each of these moments,
these like movements like hitting a ball

1059
01:08:54.640 --> 01:08:58.000
with your baseball bat in the clouds
or swiping your credit card to pay for

1060
01:08:58.039 --> 01:09:00.239
goods, has to be done to
the beat of the music. Is it

1061
01:09:00.319 --> 01:09:04.800
anything like never rebably rhythm Heaven,
Yes, kind of like that. It's

1062
01:09:05.359 --> 01:09:09.880
it's I think it's This is what's
interesting about this game is I think it's

1063
01:09:09.880 --> 01:09:14.079
intended to be like a really calm
play before you go to sleep type game.

1064
01:09:14.199 --> 01:09:17.760
I personally did not find it calming
because I was very adamant that I

1065
01:09:17.760 --> 01:09:24.199
wanted to get a better score,
and it is not kind in the amount

1066
01:09:24.239 --> 01:09:28.039
of space it gives you to have
the perfect click to make sure that you've

1067
01:09:28.079 --> 01:09:30.840
hit it on the beat. So
it is, I found it stressful.

1068
01:09:31.439 --> 01:09:35.239
I was like struggling to get the
cract scores, and I wanted to do

1069
01:09:35.279 --> 01:09:41.279
a good job. They had some
really cool visuals, like a crane machine,

1070
01:09:42.199 --> 01:09:44.960
a guy playing a computer game that
shoots at aliens. All of it's

1071
01:09:45.039 --> 01:09:47.399
just beat clicking on the beat.
Um it's addictive, it's fun. I

1072
01:09:47.439 --> 01:09:50.279
think it's very whimsical. I just
personally think you have to be very good

1073
01:09:50.319 --> 01:09:54.560
at rhythm based games to enjoy it
because it's not easy. It's not like

1074
01:09:54.600 --> 01:09:56.880
it wasn't it wasn't giving me a
break. It was like, no,

1075
01:09:56.960 --> 01:09:59.279
du it again and do it right
now? Dumb, dumb. Yeah,

1076
01:09:59.359 --> 01:10:03.119
anything like timing based challenges are like
inherently not calming to me at least,

1077
01:10:03.159 --> 01:10:05.960
like even if it is supposed to
be, Like even if visually and the

1078
01:10:05.960 --> 01:10:09.960
theme of the game is very like
oh and I sleepy, calm, cozy,

1079
01:10:10.079 --> 01:10:12.840
Like it comes down to you having
to to press a button at the

1080
01:10:12.920 --> 01:10:15.760
right time, Like that is not
a calming thing to do. No,

1081
01:10:15.920 --> 01:10:19.640
not for me, But I don't
want to say that as a not recommend

1082
01:10:19.720 --> 01:10:24.760
I think people who like rhythm based
games will enjoy this very much. I

1083
01:10:26.760 --> 01:10:32.199
could not enjoy it as much as
I wanted to Others Paradise Marsh another Indie

1084
01:10:32.279 --> 01:10:40.600
darling. You are walking around,
I would say collecting bugs Pokemon maybe style.

1085
01:10:40.680 --> 01:10:44.439
You have a net, you're grabbing
them. The world doesn't explain shit.

1086
01:10:44.600 --> 01:10:47.079
There's monolifts in it. What do
they do? I don't know.

1087
01:10:47.720 --> 01:10:50.880
You're grabbing bugs when you go up
to the monolith. Stuff happens because the

1088
01:10:50.880 --> 01:10:56.760
bugs you collected. It speaks in
poetry and rhymes. The bugs, and

1089
01:10:57.039 --> 01:11:00.520
the different characters like the Owls will
like speak in rhymes to you. No

1090
01:11:00.560 --> 01:11:06.079
one explains your goal this entire game. This is a very explorative walk around

1091
01:11:06.079 --> 01:11:11.600
to Marsh. Enjoy the visuals.
It's beautiful visually. It's just a stunning

1092
01:11:11.640 --> 01:11:15.319
game. It's uh oh. The
music Mike is by that person that we

1093
01:11:15.359 --> 01:11:20.119
like hold on Disaster. Sorry,
yes, yeah, we had him on

1094
01:11:20.199 --> 01:11:23.840
Dead Air, the podcast we used
to do about home games and movies.

1095
01:11:24.640 --> 01:11:33.560
Yeah, oh oh, okay,
nice, and it's um it's beautiful music.

1096
01:11:33.680 --> 01:11:39.000
Like it's just extremely dynamic, so
the Marsh changes. I'm going to

1097
01:11:39.039 --> 01:11:42.159
avoid spoilers because I think don't look
at a trailer for this game. In

1098
01:11:42.199 --> 01:11:45.119
my opinion, um, I think
what's interesting about this game is about the

1099
01:11:45.159 --> 01:11:49.399
experience in walking and seeing things for
the first time. So I don't recommend

1100
01:11:49.439 --> 01:11:54.640
watching gameplay. I think that would
disturb the very limited experience. It's like

1101
01:11:54.680 --> 01:11:57.960
a two hour game, so if
you watch it, you're spoiling of yourself.

1102
01:11:58.359 --> 01:12:00.319
But the Marsh, as you can
imagine, changes and fluctuates, and

1103
01:12:00.359 --> 01:12:03.960
the music is dynamic with those fluctuations, so as you change your visuals,

1104
01:12:04.319 --> 01:12:09.079
the music changes along with it.
Um as expected, disaster piece does a

1105
01:12:09.079 --> 01:12:12.159
phenomenal job. The music is really
stunning, and it's just kind of a

1106
01:12:12.159 --> 01:12:15.800
delight to play. I found it
very zen and relaxing, as like a

1107
01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:20.159
calming game for really a cozy game, a very cozy, chill game.

1108
01:12:21.640 --> 01:12:29.680
Um, finally, a little Gator. You're a little gators. Look out

1109
01:12:30.359 --> 01:12:34.560
to see the narrator look able six
thirty five on a Thursday, and they

1110
01:12:34.560 --> 01:12:39.319
would gators down in those flows.
Swam said, I said, hey Gator.

1111
01:12:39.439 --> 01:12:41.880
Then they said, yeah, yeah, Wick Gate isn't We're hungry?

1112
01:12:43.199 --> 01:12:45.359
Who's playing audio from the game?
Mary? Is that? What's happening?

1113
01:12:45.479 --> 01:12:49.119
Is this from my name's Eagle Google. I'm a Gate of their own school.

1114
01:12:49.239 --> 01:12:53.680
I live in a live them down
in the bio. I think the

1115
01:12:53.760 --> 01:12:59.319
red others angry Eagle Google. No, but that that that's what that's different.

1116
01:12:59.399 --> 01:13:02.439
That's that's like Daniel day Lewis caliber. You can't okay, yeah,

1117
01:13:03.199 --> 01:13:10.439
any do you think that it's like
Mike was in this game, because the

1118
01:13:10.920 --> 01:13:17.600
little Gator waddles like Mike's baby walk
and it's very funny. It's the same

1119
01:13:17.640 --> 01:13:25.880
one. Okay, Okay, Yeah, I love how you said that.

1120
01:13:26.079 --> 01:13:30.199
So that's no. We don't bring
up I'm not talking about the abortion.

1121
01:13:30.960 --> 01:13:39.640
Sorry, Little Gator, No and
realize I had a baby slash lepricon Walk.

1122
01:13:40.039 --> 01:13:41.960
You got a lot going on,
and a lot of it comes out

1123
01:13:42.000 --> 01:13:45.000
when you've had a few drinks.
So it's a lot. The Little Gator,

1124
01:13:45.199 --> 01:13:48.840
it's almost like it doesn't have knees. It walks on its heels.

1125
01:13:49.000 --> 01:13:54.079
It's so cute, like a little
toddler. Um the game is very much

1126
01:13:54.279 --> 01:13:59.119
childlike Wonder. I do think it
has um Zelda inspirations because there's pots everywhere

1127
01:13:59.159 --> 01:14:01.960
for you to smash. The ideas
that you're running around. You'd like to

1128
01:14:02.000 --> 01:14:04.600
play with your big sister, but
she's doing a college project and she's too

1129
01:14:04.640 --> 01:14:10.159
busy right now, so you are
trying to gain skills to impress her with

1130
01:14:10.279 --> 01:14:14.560
your sick moves that she plays with
you. Sick moves are things like being

1131
01:14:14.560 --> 01:14:17.479
able to climb walls. You need
a bracelet to do that. You need

1132
01:14:17.560 --> 01:14:20.439
a I think it's like a T
shirt so that you can have a glider.

1133
01:14:20.760 --> 01:14:26.760
They're very Zelda esque in their like
output. It's adorable to play.

1134
01:14:26.840 --> 01:14:30.119
Oh, you get a sword and
a shield and they added shield slide,

1135
01:14:30.159 --> 01:14:33.520
which I really respect. This game
has a lot of bonuses. They didn't

1136
01:14:33.560 --> 01:14:38.800
skimp out like it looks cheesy and
indie and like, you know, I

1137
01:14:38.880 --> 01:14:43.319
don't know it just they put the
TLC into it. When you walk on

1138
01:14:43.720 --> 01:14:48.560
certain materials, the gator will go
into a balancing animation and look super cute

1139
01:14:48.600 --> 01:14:53.880
trying to balance on these tight ropes
and on different obstacles. You're you're just

1140
01:14:54.000 --> 01:14:56.399
gaining skills. Every time you gain
a skill, you take a selfie and

1141
01:14:56.399 --> 01:14:58.600
send it to your sisters and you're
like, man, you're really missing out

1142
01:14:58.640 --> 01:15:01.520
because like I got this skill and
I'm super cool. You should play with

1143
01:15:01.640 --> 01:15:06.279
me. And she's like, I'm
busy. Um, it's an adorable game

1144
01:15:06.439 --> 01:15:11.359
and um worth a couple hours of
your time. I've not finished with it

1145
01:15:11.439 --> 01:15:13.199
yet and I'm going to go back
to it. I just think it's a

1146
01:15:13.279 --> 01:15:15.880
sweet it's the sweetest pie game.
Did you play all of these games in

1147
01:15:15.960 --> 01:15:24.000
your Steam deck? I played all
of them on my Steam deck, would

1148
01:15:24.039 --> 01:15:26.640
you? And these were all,
you know, indie games to play well

1149
01:15:26.680 --> 01:15:28.920
on there? Like I feel like
that's kind of where like the Steam deck

1150
01:15:29.000 --> 01:15:31.640
and also the Switch Shine or like
you know, not extremely graphically intensive,

1151
01:15:31.680 --> 01:15:35.159
but even like the Switch with stuff
like Cult of the Lamb can like drag

1152
01:15:35.279 --> 01:15:39.880
It's crazy. It's what it can
take care of. I've put I've pushed

1153
01:15:39.920 --> 01:15:44.439
it. I was playing, Um, Mike, you saw me playing a

1154
01:15:44.760 --> 01:15:49.520
Slime Rancher on there, and Slime
Rancher is a labor intensive game because it

1155
01:15:49.560 --> 01:15:54.239
has a really far draw distance and
it's like constantly absorbing, like lots of

1156
01:15:54.279 --> 01:15:57.960
AI characters. Second game not a
problem, Yeah, yeah, no issues

1157
01:15:58.000 --> 01:16:00.800
at all. On my steam Deck. You know that meme where there's like

1158
01:16:00.800 --> 01:16:02.239
a guy looking at a girl at
his girlfriend's like, how dare you?

1159
01:16:02.880 --> 01:16:09.520
That's me with my Nintendo Switch next
to me looking at my brand new Steam

1160
01:16:09.560 --> 01:16:13.119
Deck. I fucking love my steam
Deck and I'm like switch, who I

1161
01:16:13.279 --> 01:16:15.520
have family in town. I'm like, hey, you guys want to play

1162
01:16:15.600 --> 01:16:18.119
my play date or my like Nintendo
Switch, don't fucking touch my steam Deck.

1163
01:16:18.359 --> 01:16:21.159
Don't fucking go near it. Do
not look at her. Because it's

1164
01:16:21.199 --> 01:16:24.920
for me. It has all of
my favorite games on it, and it's

1165
01:16:25.000 --> 01:16:28.000
cloud based what connects to my computer, so if I want to fucking stream

1166
01:16:28.000 --> 01:16:30.520
it later, then it's perfect.
My Game of the Year is my stream

1167
01:16:30.600 --> 01:16:34.199
deck, and I love my steam
deck so much. The cloud stuff works

1168
01:16:34.319 --> 01:16:38.600
really fucking well too, where it's
like it just automn as soon as you

1169
01:16:38.640 --> 01:16:41.640
exit the game, you see I
always I've been trained to look at the

1170
01:16:41.720 --> 01:16:44.760
thing, whether it's you know,
the switch saved data cloud stuff, or

1171
01:16:44.800 --> 01:16:46.319
Steam just being like okay, wait
it says uplood in the cloud says up

1172
01:16:46.319 --> 01:16:48.600
blood complete, because I hate it
when there's like a sink error and it's

1173
01:16:48.640 --> 01:16:51.520
like, oh god, am I
gonna lose anything? I swear on Steam

1174
01:16:51.560 --> 01:16:55.560
Deck it works every fucking time,
and I have never had an issue with

1175
01:16:55.640 --> 01:17:00.119
it. It is It's a tremendous
piece of hardware. I love it so

1176
01:17:00.319 --> 01:17:02.680
much. I don't know how I
existed without it so far in my life.

1177
01:17:03.439 --> 01:17:09.119
I will take it with me everywhere. It will go on every work

1178
01:17:09.199 --> 01:17:13.800
trip next year. It does not
leave my side. It's literally ten feet

1179
01:17:13.800 --> 01:17:15.359
away from me in the bedroom.
As soon as like, you know what,

1180
01:17:15.439 --> 01:17:18.319
you were like, oh I need
thirty minutes decompressed. That's my decompressed.

1181
01:17:18.399 --> 01:17:21.319
Now. If I've been like hanging
out with people are socializing, I'm

1182
01:17:21.359 --> 01:17:24.920
like, I'll be in my room
and I sit in my bed and I

1183
01:17:25.039 --> 01:17:28.840
play my Steam Deck. I love
my Steam Deck. Everyone should get a

1184
01:17:28.840 --> 01:17:30.880
Steam Deck. I we should be
sponsored by steam Deck. I just love

1185
01:17:30.960 --> 01:17:33.720
that. I love it so much. I think it's pretty beautanimous. On

1186
01:17:33.840 --> 01:17:36.399
this podcast, I think we're all
pretty big fans of ours. Yeah it's

1187
01:17:36.439 --> 01:17:48.840
great. Yeah, yeah, it's
great. Thanks my great like Steam Steamsome's

1188
01:17:48.880 --> 01:17:54.399
awesome. I'm sorry Steam does work
on that. More like more like dam

1189
01:17:54.800 --> 01:18:00.000
Corporation. I'm sorry, Dan,
what have you been playing? No,

1190
01:18:00.159 --> 01:18:02.359
I want to dive into what you
want. Pun you were just trying to

1191
01:18:03.560 --> 01:18:09.720
corporation. Okay, yeah, so
I've been playing. Um uh. It's

1192
01:18:09.720 --> 01:18:12.840
not a great title for a game, and it also didn't come out recently.

1193
01:18:12.880 --> 01:18:15.680
I guess came out this summer.
Little Noah Scion of Paradise. Have

1194
01:18:15.720 --> 01:18:19.119
you heard of this? No rings
a Bell. I had not heard of

1195
01:18:19.159 --> 01:18:23.279
this until Bonk said that she's listening
to me Max and I guess Ben Hanson

1196
01:18:23.319 --> 01:18:26.399
got into it recently. It is, I guess, the closest thing I

1197
01:18:26.439 --> 01:18:30.960
can. It looks like that.
It's more like a dead Cells. It's

1198
01:18:30.000 --> 01:18:33.159
definitely got like a JRPG looking thing
going on there. The art style,

1199
01:18:33.199 --> 01:18:35.680
which is I actually like the art
style. It is pretty sold. I've

1200
01:18:35.680 --> 01:18:41.039
been playing on switch. Um it
is a dead cell type thing where you

1201
01:18:41.199 --> 01:18:44.520
are. The progression stuff is really
good where everything you do, everything you

1202
01:18:44.640 --> 01:18:46.720
unlock throughout every run, it gets
turned into mind which you can use to

1203
01:18:46.800 --> 01:18:50.600
like upgrade your airship between runs,
kind of like Rogue Legacy. You're upgrading

1204
01:18:50.680 --> 01:18:54.720
the castle and stuff like that,
and you're getting very good benefits to your

1205
01:18:54.840 --> 01:18:59.239
character as you go through each run. And it does something I've never seen

1206
01:18:59.279 --> 01:19:01.239
like a Metroidvane or a Rogue Light
do in the past, where it's like

1207
01:19:01.560 --> 01:19:04.680
all of these areas. Anytime you
check your map, you can just warp

1208
01:19:04.760 --> 01:19:08.039
to any room you've been to at
anytime. You don't have to go to

1209
01:19:08.079 --> 01:19:10.279
a specific place. You can just
be like, oh, I left that

1210
01:19:10.359 --> 01:19:12.640
thing back, I left that health
pickup back in the other room, and

1211
01:19:12.640 --> 01:19:14.680
I need it now. You can
just warp there, pick it up,

1212
01:19:14.800 --> 01:19:16.800
go wherever. It's like super user
friendly. It's kind of like it's kind

1213
01:19:16.800 --> 01:19:20.479
of breezy in a way. It's
not easy, you know, but it's

1214
01:19:20.479 --> 01:19:24.640
not as like punishing as the Dead
Cells. The I think the hook to

1215
01:19:24.720 --> 01:19:27.800
the combat is almost I don't know
if you guys played the Arif Sorrow the

1216
01:19:28.079 --> 01:19:30.880
Castlevania game, but and that one
you would kill enemies, and like if

1217
01:19:30.920 --> 01:19:32.920
you killed a bone archer, you
would suddenly be able to start throwing bone

1218
01:19:33.079 --> 01:19:38.319
arches or whatever. So you get
these things called kin. Yeah, you're

1219
01:19:38.399 --> 01:19:42.039
kind of getting the powers of the
things you kill, and you're unlocking these

1220
01:19:42.119 --> 01:19:46.439
liliputs up to five, and like
your your standard lineup where let's say you

1221
01:19:46.640 --> 01:19:49.199
get granted three at the beginning of
each run, and so it's like,

1222
01:19:49.199 --> 01:19:51.439
all right, I got if I
hit attack, attack, Attack, I

1223
01:19:51.520 --> 01:19:54.640
got this one little dude that comes
out and attacks with the sword, and

1224
01:19:54.680 --> 01:19:56.479
I got one dude that comes out
and shoots a little thing. And then

1225
01:19:56.479 --> 01:19:58.239
I got a big guy that comes
up with the club and does a thing.

1226
01:19:58.439 --> 01:20:00.760
And you can change your lineup at
any time time, so you're kind

1227
01:20:00.760 --> 01:20:03.560
of like collecting these creatures as you
go. Like every run, you're gonna

1228
01:20:03.600 --> 01:20:05.600
start with those three, and you
will keep getting more and you can get

1229
01:20:05.680 --> 01:20:09.000
up to five. And there's different
types. There's fire, there's wind,

1230
01:20:09.000 --> 01:20:11.880
there's ice and all that stuff,
and you'll get these accessories. They give

1231
01:20:11.880 --> 01:20:14.560
you bonuses, like okay, if
you've got all ice things, then every

1232
01:20:14.640 --> 01:20:16.920
time you shoot, it's gonna do
this bonus thing or do this stat boost

1233
01:20:17.439 --> 01:20:20.600
and then you can do like other
ones, you can slot into these skill

1234
01:20:20.880 --> 01:20:26.279
things that that do bigger kind of
like more screen clearing stuff. It's really

1235
01:20:26.359 --> 01:20:30.760
customizable in terms of like setting up
your lineup the way you want to,

1236
01:20:30.560 --> 01:20:34.279
and it's it gets kind of busy
on screen because like as you're attacking,

1237
01:20:34.319 --> 01:20:39.119
you're seeing like the spirits of your
Liliput's come out and do their attacks,

1238
01:20:39.159 --> 01:20:42.600
so it can that's my one main
complaint about it is that there's a lot

1239
01:20:42.680 --> 01:20:46.079
happening on screen and every time,
but tons of variety. Like most rooms

1240
01:20:46.079 --> 01:20:49.159
you go into will have a like
subobjective words like well, obviously you want

1241
01:20:49.199 --> 01:20:51.960
to kill every enemy, but this
one it's you know, here's a time

1242
01:20:53.039 --> 01:20:56.640
limit, here's a do this much
damage thing, here's this, and then

1243
01:20:56.680 --> 01:21:00.000
you'll get extra treasure chest stuff every
time, so you've got the gold every

1244
01:21:00.079 --> 01:21:02.479
run that basically you can buy you
know, like like a lot of rogue

1245
01:21:02.520 --> 01:21:05.800
lights. You can go to the
shop and buy upgrades for your current run,

1246
01:21:06.079 --> 01:21:10.680
but then the mana is the stuff
that you buy persistent upgrades with carry

1247
01:21:10.720 --> 01:21:13.800
on to all your runs. And
uh, it's been a lot of fun

1248
01:21:13.880 --> 01:21:15.279
so far. I've spent a few
hours with it, I've heard it's not

1249
01:21:15.319 --> 01:21:20.000
a super long game, but it's
kind of scratching an itche that I realized

1250
01:21:20.000 --> 01:21:24.319
that there haven't been a lot of
like Dead Cell likes since it came out,

1251
01:21:24.920 --> 01:21:28.199
And even though it's got a lot
of differences esthetically and even like kind

1252
01:21:28.199 --> 01:21:31.039
of gameplaying combat wise, it's kind
of scratching that same che for me right

1253
01:21:31.119 --> 01:21:34.720
now. So that one's been really
good. I want to check that out.

1254
01:21:34.760 --> 01:21:40.560
Dead Cells is a game that was
mimicking other games in a really cool,

1255
01:21:40.880 --> 01:21:44.840
unique way, and I wish people
would build on Dead Cells. So

1256
01:21:44.920 --> 01:21:46.720
I'm hoping I want to try that
out. Yeah, it's not the like

1257
01:21:47.239 --> 01:21:50.880
super fast paced, like kind of
roll and Perry, you know type stuff

1258
01:21:51.000 --> 01:21:55.279
in Dead Cells. It's it is
very fast paced. It's just the look

1259
01:21:55.319 --> 01:21:58.239
of it is very very different,
and the vibe of it is really different.

1260
01:21:58.640 --> 01:22:00.760
But in terms of just that kind
of like one more run type quality

1261
01:22:00.840 --> 01:22:04.119
that I definitely had with Dead Cells, and like each run not knowing like

1262
01:22:04.199 --> 01:22:08.039
Okay, what am I what's it
gonna be? Like, I'm starting from

1263
01:22:08.039 --> 01:22:10.680
a clean slate. Oh shit,
the first accessory I got is a fire

1264
01:22:10.760 --> 01:22:13.319
one, so let me try to
get all fired Liliputs, and then I'll

1265
01:22:13.359 --> 01:22:15.720
focus on getting fire accessories and try
to boost that. And that's another thing

1266
01:22:15.840 --> 01:22:18.079
is the accessories. You get a
ton of them every run, and they

1267
01:22:18.199 --> 01:22:20.800
stack and there's no limit, or
if there is a limit, i haven't

1268
01:22:20.840 --> 01:22:24.720
seen it yet, So you don't
have to be choosy. Like even if

1269
01:22:24.760 --> 01:22:28.159
you're doing like a fire build for
one run, you can still be like,

1270
01:22:28.199 --> 01:22:29.840
oh, here's a nice one.
Great, let's take that. Oh

1271
01:22:29.960 --> 01:22:30.800
wind one, let's take that.
Okay, this is a general one.

1272
01:22:30.920 --> 01:22:34.159
And so you can have you know, twenty thirty accessories on at the same

1273
01:22:34.199 --> 01:22:38.600
time and feel powerful as fuck.
And just like all five year Lilliputs are

1274
01:22:38.640 --> 01:22:41.399
kind of like high level ones.
And then you get these gifts in between

1275
01:22:41.479 --> 01:22:44.560
when you go to the airship between
runs, you can like bond with all

1276
01:22:44.600 --> 01:22:46.359
the individual Liliputs where it's like,
Okay, I love this one, so

1277
01:22:46.399 --> 01:22:49.079
I'm gonna give them gifts to increase
my bond so they can do you know,

1278
01:22:49.159 --> 01:22:55.079
plus whatever damage and plus minus whatever
cool down. So it's it's scratching

1279
01:22:55.119 --> 01:22:57.800
all the or checking all the boxes
as far as like a rogue light for

1280
01:22:57.880 --> 01:23:00.000
me and Bonk and I are both
playing a ton of it right now,

1281
01:23:00.359 --> 01:23:03.199
but on Switch playing on a Switch, and as of this recording, it

1282
01:23:03.279 --> 01:23:05.880
was on sale for like ten dollars
or you can get like the Deluxe Edition

1283
01:23:05.920 --> 01:23:09.199
for like thirteen. We got the
Deluxe and it comes with some extra like

1284
01:23:09.880 --> 01:23:12.920
skins and avatars that have in game
bonuses where it's like, oh, you

1285
01:23:13.000 --> 01:23:16.119
pick this avatar and the first three
in your lineup have a thirty percent damage

1286
01:23:16.159 --> 01:23:18.920
boost, but if you pick this
character the last three or this one in

1287
01:23:18.920 --> 01:23:21.000
the middle three, you'll have a
damage bonus. So there's a lot of

1288
01:23:21.000 --> 01:23:26.560
strategy and like how you you have
your lineup of liliputs. So cool.

1289
01:23:26.640 --> 01:23:28.960
Yeah, it's it's been a lot
of fun. We'll check that out.

1290
01:23:29.399 --> 01:23:31.359
Did you say, did you ever
end up playing Monster Train? No,

1291
01:23:31.520 --> 01:23:33.760
I've as much as I like Slay
the Spire. Every time I bring it

1292
01:23:33.840 --> 01:23:35.640
up, I feel everyone tells me
like, you gotta try it, Like

1293
01:23:36.039 --> 01:23:39.159
you know, our friend Dave likes
it a lot, Bonk likes it a

1294
01:23:39.199 --> 01:23:42.960
lot. I have not played Monster
Train specifically. Yeah, okay, it's

1295
01:23:43.000 --> 01:23:45.159
nothing like um, this other game
you're talking about, but I remember that's

1296
01:23:45.159 --> 01:23:48.359
all. Monster Train is also on
Switch and it works well, but it's

1297
01:23:48.399 --> 01:23:51.159
also similar in terms of character building. That's say a faction building. I

1298
01:23:51.199 --> 01:23:55.319
should say I think I think I
could get into that, because I wasn't

1299
01:23:55.319 --> 01:23:58.279
expecting to get into Slay the Spire
or the way I did. But it's

1300
01:23:58.439 --> 01:24:00.119
very good. The other I'm taking
them a lot of time right now,

1301
01:24:00.680 --> 01:24:04.680
as I expected after every fucking outlet
on the planet, including us, and

1302
01:24:04.720 --> 01:24:08.760
gave Game of the Year to Elden
Ring, I jump back in the Elden

1303
01:24:08.840 --> 01:24:14.840
Ring and it's still extremely good.
I would say it's it feels very different

1304
01:24:14.920 --> 01:24:16.720
the second time, because I think
the star of at least the first half

1305
01:24:16.720 --> 01:24:20.119
of the game the first time is
that that exploration and discovery. You're like,

1306
01:24:20.159 --> 01:24:23.000
oh my god, there's a map
under the map, and there's this,

1307
01:24:23.119 --> 01:24:24.920
and there's that, and like,
oh, there's stars in the sky,

1308
01:24:24.960 --> 01:24:27.800
but I'm underground, like all those
moments of discovery that you didn't expect.

1309
01:24:27.920 --> 01:24:30.680
Now I expect everything because I did. Yeah, I'd say I did

1310
01:24:30.920 --> 01:24:33.640
eighty five to nine percent of what's
end that game the first time. But

1311
01:24:33.840 --> 01:24:39.439
it's fun because now I'm not worried
about spoilers and I'm looking stuff up now,

1312
01:24:39.560 --> 01:24:41.880
which I couldn't do it all because
most of the time before I played

1313
01:24:41.880 --> 01:24:44.359
before released, so like I couldn't
look up anything. I just kind of

1314
01:24:44.439 --> 01:24:46.199
guessed and probably made a bunch of
fuck ups in terms of my build and

1315
01:24:46.239 --> 01:24:50.399
stuff like that. This time,
Jake Cool Judge Jake was telling me that

1316
01:24:50.640 --> 01:24:55.479
I think faith and dexterity build is
pretty fun, and I never did either

1317
01:24:55.520 --> 01:24:57.720
of those, so it's a great
that sounds like a totally different play through

1318
01:24:57.760 --> 01:25:00.880
this time. And so I'm doing
faith in decks and so now I've got

1319
01:25:00.960 --> 01:25:02.840
these like lightning bolts, I'm thrown
like zeus, I've got all these cool

1320
01:25:02.880 --> 01:25:05.720
faith spells, and it's like black
magic shit. I'm thrown around, and

1321
01:25:05.920 --> 01:25:10.720
I'm wearing like instead of like just
this big chunky night wearing all this heavy

1322
01:25:10.800 --> 01:25:14.680
armor like last time, I'm wearing
like cool like you know, robes and

1323
01:25:14.760 --> 01:25:17.600
like priest robes and shit and rolling
around fast. And it's feeling very different

1324
01:25:17.920 --> 01:25:21.640
and going through to the second time, you know, the first time around,

1325
01:25:21.680 --> 01:25:26.600
I summoned a decent amount and I
would get frustrated and just like all

1326
01:25:26.680 --> 01:25:28.760
right, i gotta have somebody come
help me with us or whatever. I'm

1327
01:25:28.800 --> 01:25:31.880
trying to like really get get good
at this and work on like the periries

1328
01:25:31.920 --> 01:25:35.359
and work on the right way to
play, and it's been extremely rewarding to

1329
01:25:35.439 --> 01:25:41.399
come at it from a gameplay perspective
and a build perspective rather than just the

1330
01:25:41.800 --> 01:25:45.640
kind of like discovery and first time
aspect of it. So yeah, I'm

1331
01:25:45.760 --> 01:25:49.399
I'm pretty deep into it. I'm
heading to the academy at this point.

1332
01:25:49.880 --> 01:25:53.359
I'd be god wreck and all that
stuff, and god damn, it's been

1333
01:25:53.399 --> 01:25:56.680
fun. Are you doing? Are
you using like Katana's a lot one handed

1334
01:25:56.720 --> 01:25:59.800
swords, et cetera. So yeah, So I've got the seal in the

1335
01:26:00.039 --> 01:26:02.079
left hand, I'm doing like a
god slayer sealed thing. And then on

1336
01:26:02.159 --> 01:26:08.119
the right I did the what was
the moon bullshit? Katana? What was

1337
01:26:08.199 --> 01:26:11.479
that one? Yeah, the moon
when everyone used that shot the shit?

1338
01:26:11.880 --> 01:26:14.520
I used that in the last one. So I'm trying to do different stuff

1339
01:26:14.520 --> 01:26:15.960
for this one. So I got
the like thing. It's the winged scythe

1340
01:26:16.439 --> 01:26:18.279
that I'm using. It's like a
one handed scythe, and I can do

1341
01:26:18.359 --> 01:26:23.560
the school like jumping slash deal.
And I've got this spell now where I

1342
01:26:23.600 --> 01:26:26.800
can like whatever weapon I have,
I can imbue with electricity, so I

1343
01:26:26.840 --> 01:26:29.800
can just turn any sword or anything
into like an electric sword. Yeah,

1344
01:26:29.840 --> 01:26:31.880
and oh man, it just feels
cool as hell and so different than the

1345
01:26:31.920 --> 01:26:34.840
first time through. And I'm just
in awe of that game again. I

1346
01:26:35.000 --> 01:26:38.359
was when it first came out.
Then I kind of like I didn't forget

1347
01:26:38.399 --> 01:26:41.119
about it, but it wasn't front
of mine until Game of the Year time,

1348
01:26:41.439 --> 01:26:44.600
and then like with every Game of
the Year discussion and every you know,

1349
01:26:44.760 --> 01:26:46.520
it's just like, oh fuck,
I did love that game. I'm

1350
01:26:46.600 --> 01:26:49.399
jumping back in its Yeah, it's
it's easily one of the best of all

1351
01:26:49.439 --> 01:26:54.159
time. So yeah, are you
doing anything like majorly different in terms of

1352
01:26:54.960 --> 01:26:58.760
order of progression and expiration? Are
you just going right to market then Godrick

1353
01:26:58.840 --> 01:27:01.760
and then to the Academy, etc. Or minor things like the first time,

1354
01:27:01.960 --> 01:27:05.960
I think by accident, I went
from god Rick to Kryam. Is

1355
01:27:05.960 --> 01:27:11.199
it carriam manor where it's the far
like on the northwest? Uh? The

1356
01:27:11.279 --> 01:27:15.399
one that's where like Rna is up
past that? No? No, no,

1357
01:27:15.439 --> 01:27:16.319
no, it's up past the Leera
under the lakes. Oh when that

1358
01:27:16.399 --> 01:27:19.800
when the artillery is hitting you on
the way to the gate, I think

1359
01:27:19.840 --> 01:27:23.600
you're thinking more in center. This
is like far northwest, it's where all

1360
01:27:23.640 --> 01:27:27.319
the fucking hands are coming out of
the uh maner, like the Ring of

1361
01:27:27.319 --> 01:27:30.199
the Witch spires and all that stuff. So I went their second um the

1362
01:27:30.279 --> 01:27:33.000
first time I played, and so
this time I'm going straight from god Rick

1363
01:27:33.159 --> 01:27:38.000
to the Academy and then I'm gonna
do the Manner stuff and then move east,

1364
01:27:38.039 --> 01:27:41.640
I think, and do Kald and
all that shit. So yeah,

1365
01:27:41.840 --> 01:27:44.079
yeah, it's it's just great.
It's just having a great time, and

1366
01:27:44.159 --> 01:27:46.920
it's a great Winter Break game.
Keep working on that, and uh noah

1367
01:27:47.279 --> 01:27:53.279
a couple other things. Briefly,
Um, Mike Tyson's punch out. You

1368
01:27:53.399 --> 01:27:56.520
might heard of that and know that
I liked that a lot. Um No,

1369
01:27:57.000 --> 01:28:00.399
I've started to dive deep into that
in a way that like Basketball Player

1370
01:28:00.720 --> 01:28:04.039
in the yeah, yeah, that's
right, it's NBAJM sequel, in the

1371
01:28:04.119 --> 01:28:08.279
way that I dove deep into the
actual Tyson fight for a long time after

1372
01:28:08.319 --> 01:28:11.039
I realized I could finally beat him
as an adult, I'm now looking at

1373
01:28:11.079 --> 01:28:15.000
the rest of the game and realizing
that there is so much depth to that

1374
01:28:15.079 --> 01:28:16.399
fucking game that I didn't realize.
Now that I've got the Mister and the

1375
01:28:16.399 --> 01:28:18.399
Analog pocket and all this stuff,
that I can play without lag. I'm

1376
01:28:18.439 --> 01:28:21.279
like really like diving deep. I
got a book that I'm reading about it.

1377
01:28:21.359 --> 01:28:26.039
I'm watching all these YouTube videos and
like it's so old that you will

1378
01:28:26.079 --> 01:28:29.159
see, like here's the definitive guide
to how to beat every Mike Tyson's character

1379
01:28:29.199 --> 01:28:31.159
in the fastest way, the best
way. But then it won't mention all

1380
01:28:31.199 --> 01:28:34.199
these things that another YouTube video says, just because like there's so many different

1381
01:28:34.239 --> 01:28:38.960
approaches and shit that I did not
know you could do until like literally today,

1382
01:28:39.000 --> 01:28:41.399
I've been playing punch Out a good
chunk of today. It's like,

1383
01:28:41.439 --> 01:28:45.560
holy fuck, I can beat the
second Piston Hunt Piston Honda in one minute

1384
01:28:45.560 --> 01:28:47.800
flat in the first round. I
had no idea that was possible, just

1385
01:28:47.960 --> 01:28:51.640
using all these like techniques and stuff
like buffering punches and shit that I didn't

1386
01:28:51.640 --> 01:28:55.840
even realize. There's the thing like
speed run type shit where I would see

1387
01:28:55.840 --> 01:28:59.000
people do these things like the blindfold
speed runs of Mike Tysons punch Out before

1388
01:28:59.000 --> 01:29:00.520
and I'd be like, I don't
understand how this is even possible. And

1389
01:29:00.640 --> 01:29:03.479
now that I'm learning these strategies,
I am realizing like, oh fuck,

1390
01:29:03.760 --> 01:29:08.680
okay, some of the stuff,
if you do it at if you practice

1391
01:29:08.720 --> 01:29:10.960
it enough and I'm doing safe states
and stuff on the mister, and like

1392
01:29:11.159 --> 01:29:14.439
loading up and doing it again and
again and again and again until I can

1393
01:29:14.479 --> 01:29:17.119
like do it almost every time.
It's like I can actually see how that's

1394
01:29:17.199 --> 01:29:21.319
possible. And it is so fucking
rewarding to read about some like super Advanced

1395
01:29:21.359 --> 01:29:26.039
Strategy and it seemed impossible the first
time you try it, and then you

1396
01:29:26.119 --> 01:29:28.199
try it fifty times and you're like, I can do this every time.

1397
01:29:28.239 --> 01:29:31.680
Now, It's oh, I just
I can't believe. I've been playing that

1398
01:29:31.720 --> 01:29:35.399
game since I was like five years
old and I'm, you know, thirty

1399
01:29:35.439 --> 01:29:38.920
eight now, and I'm still finding
things that are blowing my mind, like

1400
01:29:39.000 --> 01:29:44.000
every time i'm looking into it.
So that's been extremely rewarding. In fact,

1401
01:29:44.119 --> 01:29:45.359
after we recording, I might even
like load up a stream and just

1402
01:29:45.479 --> 01:29:48.479
like, you know, practice some
more stuff because it's it's fascinating to me.

1403
01:29:48.720 --> 01:29:53.199
So that game is still just a
perfect video game. So you give

1404
01:29:53.199 --> 01:29:57.199
it number one of all I uh, there's a there's a real argument to

1405
01:29:57.279 --> 01:30:00.000
it as far as my own personal
like yeah, yeah, I you know,

1406
01:30:00.119 --> 01:30:02.479
play Link to the pastor Maria World
and it's still perfect. But I'm

1407
01:30:02.479 --> 01:30:05.439
not playing it completely differently, and
I'm not learning new things about it every

1408
01:30:06.119 --> 01:30:11.239
time I play. Punch Out is
still fascinating and new to me all the

1409
01:30:11.319 --> 01:30:18.880
time. And finally a question here, should I try Dwarf Fortress? Yeah,

1410
01:30:19.039 --> 01:30:23.079
I would blank it yes to anybody
who asked that. Honestly, it's

1411
01:30:23.119 --> 01:30:26.520
that important. But what is the
deal with that? Because I keep hearing

1412
01:30:26.560 --> 01:30:30.319
people talk about it and know it
just came out like for real, I'll

1413
01:30:30.359 --> 01:30:34.079
say, I know you historically have
tried to get into civilization but couldn't like

1414
01:30:34.199 --> 01:30:40.319
menu heavy stuff where you really bounce
off of Dowarf Fortress is basically all menus.

1415
01:30:42.079 --> 01:30:46.880
The elevator pitch is that you're trying
to build and optimize a Dwarf colony

1416
01:30:47.079 --> 01:30:53.359
and economy, and but the amount
of depth, the depth in that game

1417
01:30:53.439 --> 01:30:58.840
in terms of each Dwarf's personality,
certain quirks, certain traits, certain skills,

1418
01:30:58.960 --> 01:31:03.920
talents that will be like written out
in these scripts that you basically kind

1419
01:31:03.960 --> 01:31:08.680
of refer to to see why they
might be depressed. And then, oh,

1420
01:31:08.720 --> 01:31:12.279
this Dwarf is not feeling fulfilled because
they're a blacksmith at heart, but

1421
01:31:12.319 --> 01:31:15.760
they're not in the They're not there. They're like they're a janitor in my

1422
01:31:15.880 --> 01:31:19.880
economy, so I have to go
and change that. But then also a

1423
01:31:19.960 --> 01:31:23.600
lot of my cats are dying,
the pets, so people are less happy.

1424
01:31:23.640 --> 01:31:27.159
But why are the cats dying?
Oh turns out they were licking up

1425
01:31:27.239 --> 01:31:30.159
the puke puddles on the ground after
dwarves drank a lot of alcohol. So

1426
01:31:30.199 --> 01:31:33.399
they're dying now. So I can't
get the dwarfs to drink less because it

1427
01:31:33.479 --> 01:31:38.239
just made them really happy that I
built this new bar tavern for them.

1428
01:31:38.880 --> 01:31:41.079
But I did that because they were
depressed, because a lot of people were

1429
01:31:41.119 --> 01:31:43.960
dying in the minds because these monsters
were eating them. It's like, it's

1430
01:31:44.000 --> 01:31:47.399
not a victory condition game. It's
like losing is the fun, but sure

1431
01:31:48.399 --> 01:31:54.920
it's it will take you as long
as you get into it understanding you're you're

1432
01:31:55.000 --> 01:31:58.560
not going to really know everything that's
going on. Ever, unless it's like

1433
01:31:58.640 --> 01:32:00.319
the only game that you play for
the rest your life, you're never gonna

1434
01:32:00.359 --> 01:32:04.479
fully grasp it. If you can
have fun with that and like the emergent

1435
01:32:04.920 --> 01:32:08.720
stuff that comes out of you,
like holy fuck, I can't believe I

1436
01:32:09.000 --> 01:32:13.319
still play that game. I'm like
really like three hundred hours in which is

1437
01:32:13.399 --> 01:32:16.199
fucking nothing for this game, Like
and this is over. I've only played

1438
01:32:16.239 --> 01:32:20.920
like ten hours of the new updated
Steam version with the more approachable visual esthetic.

1439
01:32:21.439 --> 01:32:27.880
It's redundant, Like I still have
no idea what's going on. Half

1440
01:32:27.920 --> 01:32:30.600
the time. I'm just reveling in
the chaos. But it's it's fun.

1441
01:32:31.359 --> 01:32:34.199
That's the appealed to me, is
like the chaos, and like anything that's

1442
01:32:34.239 --> 01:32:38.880
like deeply emergent on that level is
really fascinating to me, like ever since.

1443
01:32:38.880 --> 01:32:41.760
I remember, like Mala Knew when
he was describing Fable, the first

1444
01:32:41.800 --> 01:32:43.399
one, and he was like,
well, yeah, you might. Let's

1445
01:32:43.399 --> 01:32:45.680
say you get in a fight as
a kid, and you beat a kid

1446
01:32:45.760 --> 01:32:46.680
up and you leave a scar on
his face, he might come back,

1447
01:32:47.079 --> 01:32:49.760
you know, twenty years later and
pick a fight with you. Or because

1448
01:32:49.800 --> 01:32:53.199
you were here or when you were
young, when you come back twenty years

1449
01:32:53.319 --> 01:32:55.760
later, everyone will have a haircut
style like you because you became here.

1450
01:32:55.800 --> 01:32:59.560
Like that type of emergent non scripted
stuff is like really fascinating to me,

1451
01:32:59.600 --> 01:33:01.760
And I feel like not a lot
of games have actually like even like made

1452
01:33:01.800 --> 01:33:04.840
good on that promise of like what
he was talking about, and including Fable,

1453
01:33:05.720 --> 01:33:10.039
So like the idea like the stories
that I hear come out of Dwarf

1454
01:33:10.119 --> 01:33:12.960
Fortress of just like all these crazy
things that we're not scripted. They weren't

1455
01:33:12.960 --> 01:33:15.399
like some set piece moment or something. It's just like, oh shit,

1456
01:33:15.600 --> 01:33:16.760
this is just like kind of a
one of a kind thing that happened in

1457
01:33:16.920 --> 01:33:19.880
my game. Like that type of
stuff is fascinating to me. But I

1458
01:33:19.960 --> 01:33:24.439
also whenever that game is brought up, it's always with a certain tone of

1459
01:33:24.560 --> 01:33:27.439
just like, oh god, it's
gonna like it's a lot, and so

1460
01:33:27.560 --> 01:33:30.960
like, if it's gonna take me
twenty hours of like reading stuff to understand

1461
01:33:30.000 --> 01:33:35.560
even what's going, then you can
still but dabble in it and get some

1462
01:33:36.960 --> 01:33:41.560
some reward out of just like parsing
through the menus and looking at different characters

1463
01:33:41.600 --> 01:33:43.920
and being like, oh, this
character sounds cool, I'm gonna follow them

1464
01:33:43.960 --> 01:33:47.479
for a bit. There. I
definitely say read like gonna I'm gonna promote

1465
01:33:47.479 --> 01:33:50.319
our own stuff. Polygon's got some
like, hey, like ten things to

1466
01:33:50.399 --> 01:33:53.760
know before you dive into one of
the most complex games ever, Like,

1467
01:33:54.159 --> 01:33:57.680
here are some general goals to try
to pursue with your first few colonies,

1468
01:33:57.960 --> 01:34:00.600
Like, um, you want to
all ways try to be thinking about how

1469
01:34:00.640 --> 01:34:03.760
to be set up for an invasion
from creatures that might be coming into the

1470
01:34:03.800 --> 01:34:08.760
base, like just some basic stuff
to look up. But outside of that,

1471
01:34:08.880 --> 01:34:11.520
it's also just a very like to
for your interest. It's it's a

1472
01:34:11.720 --> 01:34:16.960
really streamable game because you never really
know what's going to happen over the course

1473
01:34:17.039 --> 01:34:20.640
of eight to twelve hours in each
run. At eight there's been times I

1474
01:34:20.640 --> 01:34:25.800
don't get anywhere near like eight hours. But it's just endlessly fascinating. It's

1475
01:34:25.800 --> 01:34:29.159
definitely one of the most important games
of all time, I'd say, but

1476
01:34:29.920 --> 01:34:33.239
it's just so complex, and the
Steam version helps it's more approachable. I

1477
01:34:33.279 --> 01:34:39.159
would still never describe this game as
approachable. So yeah, get into if

1478
01:34:39.159 --> 01:34:42.600
you're if you're gonna try to dabble
in it, you can just to get

1479
01:34:42.640 --> 01:34:45.880
a gist of what it's about.
But if you really want to get a

1480
01:34:45.960 --> 01:34:48.520
lot out of it, I'd say, like read like a beginner's guide or

1481
01:34:48.600 --> 01:34:53.039
two. And then after that,
if there's some huge thing that you can't

1482
01:34:53.079 --> 01:34:57.279
like if you see like ten year
characters don't have sleeping quarters and you can't

1483
01:34:57.279 --> 01:34:59.880
figure out how to build something like
that, maybe google that, but don't

1484
01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:02.119
go out of your way to google
each and every like, don't minimax stuff,

1485
01:35:02.159 --> 01:35:05.680
don't optimize save that for like,
if you really wanted to get into

1486
01:35:05.720 --> 01:35:11.640
the game for now, just kind
of enjoy the fact, like follow one

1487
01:35:11.760 --> 01:35:15.479
character and be like, oh,
but they're the bartender, but they're deeply

1488
01:35:15.560 --> 01:35:18.479
unhappy. They're not satisfied with their
work at all. Do they like other

1489
01:35:18.520 --> 01:35:21.880
stuff where their talents? Oh,
I see, Okay, they're super into

1490
01:35:21.960 --> 01:35:26.159
like foraging, but a lot of
people just died out in the fields,

1491
01:35:26.279 --> 01:35:30.680
so that might not work. It's
just like that's the kind of like passing

1492
01:35:30.720 --> 01:35:33.640
through the endless cascade of cause and
effect in that game is just the joy

1493
01:35:33.720 --> 01:35:38.199
of it in itself. But it
can be complex, and it's it's just

1494
01:35:38.319 --> 01:35:41.239
all it's basically all menus. Not
to say you don't zoom out and just

1495
01:35:41.279 --> 01:35:45.880
see your little like sure economy and
miniature unfolding, but it'll take a while

1496
01:35:45.920 --> 01:35:48.760
before you feel like you've optimized anything, if you even want to do that.

1497
01:35:49.199 --> 01:35:55.560
But it's it's endlessly fascinating and I'm
not incapable of like even if something

1498
01:35:55.680 --> 01:35:58.319
is a lot of menus or management
and stuff like that, Like I know,

1499
01:35:58.399 --> 01:36:00.159
it's a very different type of game, but like you know, sim

1500
01:36:00.239 --> 01:36:02.359
City I used to absolutely adore,
and yeah, I know it's not a

1501
01:36:02.399 --> 01:36:06.119
city builder, but it's that's still
a game about like the emergent gameplay and

1502
01:36:06.239 --> 01:36:12.000
the stories that develop, and then
wanting to be curious enough to investigate why

1503
01:36:12.279 --> 01:36:16.399
things are happening to characters because of
decisions that you didn't realize, what have

1504
01:36:16.479 --> 01:36:19.760
the consequences that they have? And
so if you're trying to gamify it,

1505
01:36:19.880 --> 01:36:25.279
you might get frustrated because you might
be like, my character died, and

1506
01:36:25.640 --> 01:36:30.319
they died because of something that I
had no idea I was doing that was

1507
01:36:30.399 --> 01:36:32.279
wrong, and that's frustrating to me. This game might not be for you.

1508
01:36:32.600 --> 01:36:38.720
This game is about enjoying the idea
that people died because you accidentally made

1509
01:36:38.760 --> 01:36:42.279
a decision that caused a lot of
people to die. And that's what I

1510
01:36:42.319 --> 01:36:46.000
want. I want to come to
terms with. Yeah. Yeah, it's

1511
01:36:46.000 --> 01:36:48.880
like it's like taking a part of
machine to sort of see how it works,

1512
01:36:48.920 --> 01:36:53.119
and maybe you fix a couple things
in it that feed into Actually don't

1513
01:36:53.119 --> 01:36:55.600
know how the machine works. You
don't even know what the machine is supposed

1514
01:36:55.600 --> 01:36:57.479
to be doing. You don't know
what its function is, and it's a

1515
01:36:57.520 --> 01:37:00.039
different machine every time. It's like, yeah, when you can, I

1516
01:37:00.119 --> 01:37:03.000
understand what's going on, but at
the same time you absolutely do not.

1517
01:37:04.359 --> 01:37:10.640
Friends said that game is like cathartic
for him because his day job is chasing

1518
01:37:10.720 --> 01:37:14.680
down and fixing bugs. This is
chasing down, fixing one bug and then

1519
01:37:14.720 --> 01:37:17.439
seeing a lot of I think I've
heard several people say as programmers, they're

1520
01:37:17.439 --> 01:37:20.680
like, I really really hate it
because it reminds me too much my day

1521
01:37:20.760 --> 01:37:25.159
job. Other people have said it
is like cathartic because it's just convincing me

1522
01:37:25.199 --> 01:37:29.279
I'll never find all the bugs.
Like I don't know if you guys saw

1523
01:37:29.399 --> 01:37:31.479
my basement, I had like a
kind of a workshop area. Yeah,

1524
01:37:31.520 --> 01:37:34.960
and there's an Xbox Elite controller that
I bought off Facebook marketplace, and I

1525
01:37:35.039 --> 01:37:38.319
realized it was broken, and so
I was like, all right, you

1526
01:37:38.359 --> 01:37:40.319
know what, this is a good
opportunity. I got to space down there,

1527
01:37:40.439 --> 01:37:42.199
have a little bench. I'm gonna
go down there and like take the

1528
01:37:42.239 --> 01:37:44.479
stay apart and see if I can
get it working. And I took it

1529
01:37:44.560 --> 01:37:46.640
apart and got to a certain point
where I had it all displayed out on

1530
01:37:46.640 --> 01:37:49.760
the desk and I got my little
static free things and my screwdrivers and all

1531
01:37:49.800 --> 01:37:51.720
that, and I looked at it. I was like, oh, this

1532
01:37:51.880 --> 01:37:55.000
is a lot. I don't know
what's going on. Yeah, it's it's

1533
01:37:55.079 --> 01:37:58.039
sore fortresses like that. It's like, Okay, this paddle is working as

1534
01:37:58.039 --> 01:38:00.640
it should. That button is going
like clearly like it's you know, the

1535
01:38:00.760 --> 01:38:04.560
right input. Oh my god,
there's a whole like computer chip thing here.

1536
01:38:04.680 --> 01:38:06.880
What the fuck. I don't know
what it's even supposed to do.

1537
01:38:08.520 --> 01:38:11.039
I'm going to ignore that for a
bit and then go do something. Oh

1538
01:38:11.119 --> 01:38:13.720
shit, turns out that was important
because everything else is on fire. That's

1539
01:38:13.760 --> 01:38:17.439
dooor fortress. And I say it's
streamable, don't stream it right away that

1540
01:38:17.560 --> 01:38:20.399
there will be people in the chat
who, through good intentions, will be

1541
01:38:20.520 --> 01:38:24.279
like, oh no, you gotta
be doing this. I'm like, don't

1542
01:38:24.359 --> 01:38:27.039
go to the games where it's like
yeah, people that are into it,

1543
01:38:27.239 --> 01:38:30.600
like cannot help a backseat drive.
Yeah, And I would like to watch

1544
01:38:30.640 --> 01:38:31.359
you try to figure it out.
But I would definitely say, like,

1545
01:38:31.479 --> 01:38:35.479
don't be referring to chat to like
shot optimize stuff right away. Okay,

1546
01:38:35.760 --> 01:38:39.479
Yeah, well I remain curious.
I think, you know, I got

1547
01:38:39.520 --> 01:38:42.199
a couple of things I'm working on
now, but maybe you know, if

1548
01:38:42.279 --> 01:38:45.600
I don't have something I'm actively working
on, and I could see myself poking

1549
01:38:45.600 --> 01:38:47.239
around there a little bit. Yeah, it's one of those things I try

1550
01:38:47.279 --> 01:38:54.000
to find comparisons, like what other
game has made me feel like that there's

1551
01:38:54.039 --> 01:38:56.680
really nothing and I play and I'm
saying that someone who plays a shit ton

1552
01:38:56.720 --> 01:39:01.199
of strategy games menu heavy games like
Crusader King's Three comes close in the sense

1553
01:39:01.319 --> 01:39:05.079
that you're not really playing to win, You're just playing to see, like

1554
01:39:05.199 --> 01:39:10.600
how marrying this daughter off to that
royal family affects. Oh shit, now

1555
01:39:10.640 --> 01:39:15.399
I have this old rivalry that's like
generations old that I forgot about games like

1556
01:39:15.520 --> 01:39:19.520
that where it's like, I think
the most mainstream boiled down Triple A version

1557
01:39:19.680 --> 01:39:24.920
is probably Middle Earth Shadow of Mordor. It's like, that's the okay third

1558
01:39:24.960 --> 01:39:29.000
person action. I can see how
this one specific boss I killed or maimed

1559
01:39:29.640 --> 01:39:33.119
came back and has the eyepatch and
the peg lag, etc. That's like

1560
01:39:33.199 --> 01:39:36.880
the most boiled down thing. Door
Fortress is just like if I was looking

1561
01:39:36.920 --> 01:39:42.279
at a human body like and seeing
how trying to figure out how the human

1562
01:39:42.319 --> 01:39:45.960
body works and then figuring this one
thing out and solving this one character's problem

1563
01:39:46.039 --> 01:39:49.239
just leads to twelve more. And
it's not always problems, it's not always

1564
01:39:49.880 --> 01:39:51.720
stressful. A lot of times will
be like, oh, things are going

1565
01:39:51.800 --> 01:39:54.920
well. Why are they going well? And it's I don't know, it's

1566
01:39:55.640 --> 01:40:00.359
it is. It's just voyeuristic watching
this thing unfold and playing, like doing

1567
01:40:00.359 --> 01:40:02.720
a little dasx mochin a kind of
hand of God shit to like change this

1568
01:40:02.840 --> 01:40:09.199
one thing and then see how that
happens. It's it's it's incredible. Okay,

1569
01:40:09.560 --> 01:40:12.119
it's curious before, and I think
I'm more curious coming out of this

1570
01:40:12.319 --> 01:40:15.319
though. The Steam version helps a
lot because it's not like that old school

1571
01:40:15.359 --> 01:40:20.159
dos like representation of dwarves. They
actually are animated and have characters and pixels

1572
01:40:20.159 --> 01:40:27.760
and whatnot. Okay, Yeah for
Fortress rules. Cool, that's all I

1573
01:40:27.840 --> 01:40:31.199
get. That might be our games
if you missed it, like we said

1574
01:40:31.239 --> 01:40:34.079
I if you couldn't make it,
if you were traveling for the holidays earlier

1575
01:40:34.399 --> 01:40:40.720
we've talked about every game. Yeah, Dan's it's on our Patreon. You

1576
01:40:40.720 --> 01:40:42.880
don't have to pay to unlock it. It's just there if you want to

1577
01:40:42.920 --> 01:40:45.319
go to our patrens available to everybody
if you missed any of our Game of

1578
01:40:45.319 --> 01:40:48.760
the Year twenty twenty two extravaganza and
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1579
01:40:48.800 --> 01:40:51.319
be an AD free or video tier. Remember if you want to go see

1580
01:40:51.359 --> 01:40:55.800
that. Just like ninety minutes of
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1581
01:40:55.840 --> 01:41:00.920
Thomas Anderson movies and what hot American
summer and getting track your trailer drivers to

1582
01:41:00.239 --> 01:41:03.560
pull their horn. This is really
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1583
01:41:03.560 --> 01:41:08.880
it's pretty much just us bullshitting for
like it's over an hour, all right,

1584
01:41:09.079 --> 01:41:12.000
it's like ninety minutes. Yeah,
yeah, in a car, interesting

1585
01:41:12.079 --> 01:41:15.319
scenario, Like I came away from
that really enjoying that conversation. So yeah,

1586
01:41:15.359 --> 01:41:17.199
that's good time. So go check
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1587
01:41:17.239 --> 01:41:20.199
you infinitely to the patrons who have
been with us since the beginning and also

1588
01:41:20.239 --> 01:41:25.399
the new ones. That's what flew
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1589
01:41:25.439 --> 01:41:27.560
for the Game of the Year stuff. It's what got us set up at

1590
01:41:27.600 --> 01:41:30.600
Dan's. Thanks, and yeah,
if that keeps up and everything, then

1591
01:41:30.760 --> 01:41:33.479
um, you know, we have
no specific plans yet, but god damn

1592
01:41:33.520 --> 01:41:36.359
it. If being in person wasn't
the way to go for a Game of

1593
01:41:36.399 --> 01:41:39.920
the Year, I want to sho
you guys to Portland. I think you

1594
01:41:39.960 --> 01:41:43.399
should come. I think Dan,
we can be so many wacky adventures in

1595
01:41:43.520 --> 01:41:46.199
Portland. I would love to play
out to Portland next year and came out

1596
01:41:46.800 --> 01:41:49.840
out there. That would be a
blast. So patrons, thank you,

1597
01:41:50.279 --> 01:41:54.439
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1598
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1599
01:41:57.680 --> 01:42:00.800
com with questions, comments, concerns, recommendations. We got kind of all

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01:42:00.800 --> 01:42:02.640
those tonight. We also have a
quiz tonight our first name. Very long

1601
01:42:02.760 --> 01:42:06.279
time. We had a long streak
of doing them back in like spring summer.

1602
01:42:06.880 --> 01:42:11.960
I think people were getting tired of
them. Yeah, we don't enough

1603
01:42:12.039 --> 01:42:15.680
time now. We don't remember who
was the reigning we were doing the Jeopardy

1604
01:42:15.760 --> 01:42:18.319
rules. I don't think it was. I think Mary. I didn't ever

1605
01:42:18.439 --> 01:42:21.640
lose, so it's still me.
But we have a fun one that's a

1606
01:42:21.880 --> 01:42:26.119
kind of fire Escape twenty twenty two
in review. But I do also have

1607
01:42:26.880 --> 01:42:30.359
a it's kind of a double dip
because they said the emailed the bomb cast

1608
01:42:30.399 --> 01:42:34.680
with something similar. But it's a
recommendation and then a question and then a

1609
01:42:35.960 --> 01:42:41.520
quiz. Actually, let me make
sure that I got this correctly. I'm

1610
01:42:41.560 --> 01:42:44.520
gonna I should pull that out of
the I don't know why I put them

1611
01:42:44.520 --> 01:42:46.239
the run of show because I don't
want you guys seeing those. Don't look,

1612
01:42:46.319 --> 01:42:51.159
don't look, don't hurry. All
right, I got it? Uh

1613
01:42:53.199 --> 01:42:56.359
quiz, there we go. Okay, I got to pulled up fire Escape

1614
01:42:56.399 --> 01:42:59.239
Cast at gmail dot com again.
Thank you all the questions that people have

1615
01:42:59.319 --> 01:43:01.159
sent in over the couple of years. We've been a year and a half,

1616
01:43:01.199 --> 01:43:05.920
two years we've been doing this.
Yeah. Um, we did our

1617
01:43:06.039 --> 01:43:09.640
Game of the Year, Dan,
did you say we did on the exact

1618
01:43:09.760 --> 01:43:13.640
day a year later? We did? Yes? Yes, there was like

1619
01:43:13.720 --> 01:43:16.399
December seventeenth, I think both years. Yeah, okay, this first one

1620
01:43:16.600 --> 01:43:24.319
is actually more for Dan. So
Dan, because you read this first one

1621
01:43:24.439 --> 01:43:29.840
from Justin from San Marcos. I
can it says give us five stars on

1622
01:43:29.960 --> 01:43:31.279
Spotify? Oh yeah, do that
first, Dan? What can people do

1623
01:43:31.319 --> 01:43:35.359
on Spotify? You can give us
five stars if you enjoy the podcast.

1624
01:43:35.399 --> 01:43:38.560
Here, there's all sorts of ways
you can support the show if you like

1625
01:43:38.640 --> 01:43:41.840
it. Just listening is a sport. That's we want to get in your

1626
01:43:41.880 --> 01:43:44.960
ears there. That's good, And
we also got the five stars on Spotify

1627
01:43:45.239 --> 01:43:47.000
that also doesn't cost you dive and
then we got the patret stuff if you

1628
01:43:47.000 --> 01:43:50.640
want to throw some bucks our ways. You got all sorts of ways the

1629
01:43:50.760 --> 01:43:55.000
spectrum of how you can support us, and we appreciate it all, so

1630
01:43:55.119 --> 01:43:57.560
thank you very much. But yes, give us the five stars on Spotify.

1631
01:43:57.840 --> 01:44:00.840
That helps us as all the Yeah
yeah, that Spotify algorithm shit.

1632
01:44:00.960 --> 01:44:01.760
So anyway, Mary, what should
they do if they want to give us

1633
01:44:01.800 --> 01:44:09.199
lesson fewer than five stars? Um, you should go to Spotify and search

1634
01:44:10.079 --> 01:44:14.199
the best ease. That's also us
in Cereal, we also post heard things

1635
01:44:14.279 --> 01:44:19.279
under Cereal. Yeah. Yeah,
you go to Apple uh podcasts kind of

1636
01:44:19.319 --> 01:44:25.479
funny, yes, and knock yourselves
out. A lot of it is also

1637
01:44:25.680 --> 01:44:28.239
us. Just a line of a
lot of pseudonyms we use for you know,

1638
01:44:28.359 --> 01:44:30.640
alias is in case you want to
give us different ratings. It's a

1639
01:44:30.720 --> 01:44:34.760
it's a complicated algorithm thing. I'm
justin mcaroon into it. Dan is Chris

1640
01:44:34.880 --> 01:44:38.680
Plant, Mary is Chris Plant.
I'm for Caampa City. Yes, Mary

1641
01:44:38.760 --> 01:44:43.399
is rust fresh stick and Griffin.
It's complicated the whole thing. Yeah,

1642
01:44:43.560 --> 01:44:45.239
yeah, anyway, Dan, Yeah, this first one from San Marcos.

1643
01:44:45.600 --> 01:44:50.520
We're brothers. I emailed the bomb
cast with us as well. Since Jeff

1644
01:44:50.520 --> 01:44:55.239
Grubb and Dan really cottoned to,
how does it really cotton to? That's

1645
01:44:55.279 --> 01:44:58.880
a fun sounding first. Anyway,
Uh to super Kywe sixty four this month,

1646
01:44:58.960 --> 01:45:00.479
but I thought I should service it
for fire Escape as well. I

1647
01:45:00.680 --> 01:45:04.479
was just pointed towards a truly amazing
three D platform er made by a single

1648
01:45:04.600 --> 01:45:09.159
guy. It's called Trips Voyage,
and I never would have stumbled across it

1649
01:45:09.199 --> 01:45:12.600
on my own since it was creative
entirely in Dreams, which I've shamefully dropped

1650
01:45:12.680 --> 01:45:16.039
off of surfing for gems. It's
an extremely solid four hour collect a Thon

1651
01:45:16.199 --> 01:45:20.279
and easily the best creation I've seen
within Dreams. I know less about Mike

1652
01:45:20.399 --> 01:45:23.960
or Mary's enjoyment levels for this kind
of game, but I can say confidently

1653
01:45:24.000 --> 01:45:27.520
that Dan should dig it. I
sure did. Okay. I did like

1654
01:45:27.600 --> 01:45:30.199
Super que a lot, I do
like Collectithons. I like anything that harkens

1655
01:45:30.279 --> 01:45:35.479
back to that era. The only
thing that maybe gives me pause here is

1656
01:45:35.720 --> 01:45:41.279
it being in Dreams, because Dreams
is one of those things that is incredibly,

1657
01:45:41.920 --> 01:45:45.279
incredibly impressive in terms of its creation
tools and everything. I love meeting

1658
01:45:45.359 --> 01:45:49.840
Molecule level with a little big planet, Dreams was way too much to deal

1659
01:45:49.920 --> 01:45:55.079
with. And the only person I
hear talk about it these days is been

1660
01:45:55.239 --> 01:45:58.119
Hansen. And here's the thing.
We've been handsome. There's a lot of

1661
01:45:58.159 --> 01:46:01.800
things that've been handsome. He is
really good. I've learned about Ben Hanson.

1662
01:46:02.279 --> 01:46:04.520
I've learned about a lot of great
games. They're Ben Hanson. I

1663
01:46:04.600 --> 01:46:09.039
was the main game I'm enjoying right
now, that little little Nemo Scions invent

1664
01:46:09.119 --> 01:46:15.159
or whatever. But whenever he's like
way too into a game and way too

1665
01:46:15.279 --> 01:46:16.800
hyperbolic about it, because that's the
mode he goes into. He gets super

1666
01:46:16.920 --> 01:46:24.000
hyperbolic, it tends to be not
good, or at least definitely not like.

1667
01:46:24.199 --> 01:46:27.439
I remember literally there's an iOS game
called Tripletown. It was a little

1668
01:46:27.640 --> 01:46:30.680
little puzzler and he introduced it to
me by saying like, Dan, do

1669
01:46:30.760 --> 01:46:32.720
you want to see the face of
God? And I was like, uh

1670
01:46:32.840 --> 01:46:35.319
okay, and he handed me this
iOS puzzle game and it was like a

1671
01:46:35.399 --> 01:46:39.560
fine little puzz Like. So basically, the more Ben Hanson hype something up,

1672
01:46:39.920 --> 01:46:43.079
the less likely I am to enjoy
it. Um And I feel like

1673
01:46:43.199 --> 01:46:45.960
Dreams he is like a full on
like cult of Dreams guy, um,

1674
01:46:46.399 --> 01:46:49.119
and I played it enough to be
like, all right, some cool stuff

1675
01:46:49.159 --> 01:46:54.239
here, But I don't know the
idea of like a four hour platformer in

1676
01:46:54.359 --> 01:46:57.399
Dreams. Hey, if that's if
that's correct, I would I would love

1677
01:46:57.439 --> 01:47:00.439
to try that out. I think
I owned Dreams, Um, I just

1678
01:47:00.520 --> 01:47:01.600
searched for it. I'm sure I
can figure it out. I played video

1679
01:47:01.640 --> 01:47:05.279
games before, but I would give
that a shot. Cool. We had

1680
01:47:05.319 --> 01:47:10.760
tiny Kin in our top ten.
Which kind of platform or collective on?

1681
01:47:10.920 --> 01:47:15.640
Absolutely a guy? Get them all. I love those types of games,

1682
01:47:15.720 --> 01:47:17.880
and I do get into them.
Something I also think is interesting is when

1683
01:47:17.920 --> 01:47:23.680
a game allows users to make games
right, like the Roadblocks method. And

1684
01:47:23.840 --> 01:47:29.000
I find this fascinating. So I'm
quite curious. But I don't have Dreams.

1685
01:47:29.039 --> 01:47:31.439
I don't think I ever bought it. So now I feel like that's

1686
01:47:31.479 --> 01:47:34.079
something where I have to like acquire
a game to play the games within it.

1687
01:47:34.479 --> 01:47:38.640
Yeah, and there is a fine
line with collected thons too. I

1688
01:47:38.760 --> 01:47:41.640
was just watching Donkey. He's been
doing a bunch of Donkey Kong videos this

1689
01:47:41.760 --> 01:47:44.119
month, and he did one on
Donkey Kong sixty four and I think that

1690
01:47:44.239 --> 01:47:46.319
is the most famous. Like this
is a collected th on, but it

1691
01:47:46.479 --> 01:47:50.159
is too much as much as like
Banjo Kazooi and Marie sixty four to a

1692
01:47:50.199 --> 01:47:54.199
different extent, is like kind of
collected on type stuff. Those were like

1693
01:47:54.560 --> 01:47:57.359
within the realm of reason, and
then Donkey Kong sixty four was like,

1694
01:47:57.439 --> 01:48:00.800
let's see how far we can push
this and pushed it way too fucking far.

1695
01:48:00.600 --> 01:48:03.600
I wonder, I wonder if this
is like contained enough, you know,

1696
01:48:03.760 --> 01:48:06.800
super Key we was on the low
end. Tiny Kin, I think

1697
01:48:06.800 --> 01:48:10.279
it had it just right. There's
just enough stuff to collecting, tiny Kan,

1698
01:48:10.439 --> 01:48:13.079
I believe so. So it's it's
a fine line. For sure,

1699
01:48:13.119 --> 01:48:16.520
you can overdo it. I agree. It's about making it feel achievable.

1700
01:48:17.039 --> 01:48:20.479
The carrocks where like there was like
a moment there where I was like,

1701
01:48:20.640 --> 01:48:25.039
all right, you gonna make me
fucking travel across every piece of this world

1702
01:48:26.159 --> 01:48:29.399
to get these, but uh,
you know, having the reward be what

1703
01:48:29.479 --> 01:48:31.119
it was, it's just kind of
like a silly benefit exactly. That's the

1704
01:48:31.199 --> 01:48:34.920
reason why that's acceptable to me is
because though it's such a self aware like,

1705
01:48:35.000 --> 01:48:39.159
oh, you're literally getting a piece
of golden shit for like spending one

1706
01:48:39.239 --> 01:48:42.720
hundred hours of your life collecting these
fucking seeds. That makes it okay to

1707
01:48:42.800 --> 01:48:45.560
me. But yeah, as long
as they running around it is good enough,

1708
01:48:45.640 --> 01:48:47.439
like it isn't tiny Kan, then
uh yeah I can. I can

1709
01:48:47.479 --> 01:48:53.399
do a lot of that. Cool. Thank you justin Uh, Mary,

1710
01:48:53.439 --> 01:48:58.279
do you want to do the second
one from Oh it's from John? Yes,

1711
01:48:59.760 --> 01:49:03.079
Hey, fire Escape Crew. I
was talking with a friend recently about

1712
01:49:03.119 --> 01:49:08.920
our favorite retro inspired games of the
year, his being Shredder's Revenge that makes

1713
01:49:08.920 --> 01:49:13.680
sense and mine being Signaledged that's also
a really great Yeah. This got me

1714
01:49:13.760 --> 01:49:17.479
thinking about contradictions in my personal tastes. See. I don't generally care for

1715
01:49:17.600 --> 01:49:21.479
two D brawlers, finding them too
repetitive, but I like three D character

1716
01:49:21.720 --> 01:49:26.840
action games like Devil May Cry.
On the other hand, I love classic

1717
01:49:26.920 --> 01:49:30.279
survival horror, but I'm not a
fan of point click adventure games, even

1718
01:49:30.359 --> 01:49:34.479
though they share a lot of the
same DNA. One just has direct control

1719
01:49:34.560 --> 01:49:39.640
and a little action. So my
question to you all is do you have

1720
01:49:39.800 --> 01:49:44.039
any similar examples of slight tweaks in
a genre determining whether or not it's for

1721
01:49:44.159 --> 01:49:47.960
you? Thanks and keep up the
great podcasting, John. Thanks John.

1722
01:49:49.039 --> 01:49:54.760
Speaking of survival horror, I like
horror games a lot, but I tend

1723
01:49:54.880 --> 01:49:59.760
to I've gotten tired of just pure
horror games. I feel like they usually

1724
01:50:00.119 --> 01:50:01.760
kind of jumped the shark toward the
beginning and you see what they're going to

1725
01:50:01.760 --> 01:50:04.920
be doing the rest of the game. It's the survival. This isn't a

1726
01:50:04.960 --> 01:50:09.680
slight tweak, so I'm kind of
cheating, but the addition of the survival

1727
01:50:09.760 --> 01:50:14.680
element, the way it ties into
the horror and the tension, really does

1728
01:50:14.720 --> 01:50:16.520
it for me. Like nowadays,
I see horror game like okay, but

1729
01:50:16.600 --> 01:50:20.279
if it's survival horror, I'm like, okay, interesting. Which again,

1730
01:50:20.279 --> 01:50:24.399
I know it's not a slight tweak, but still I think I got a

1731
01:50:24.520 --> 01:50:28.319
good one for this, which is
I don't play the sports games. I

1732
01:50:28.439 --> 01:50:33.800
don't play FIFA, I don't play
football, I don't play any sports games

1733
01:50:33.920 --> 01:50:40.680
at all. But then a little
game came out where you hit a soccer

1734
01:50:40.760 --> 01:50:45.720
ball with a car, and I
was like, I'm in and I play

1735
01:50:45.039 --> 01:50:51.479
to this day a competitive sports game
with my friends consistently because it shook it

1736
01:50:51.560 --> 01:50:55.520
up, just it off, and
I think it also adds such a ridiculous

1737
01:50:55.600 --> 01:50:59.439
element to it that if I have
a bad game, I'm not like bad

1738
01:50:59.560 --> 01:51:01.840
at the game. Game. It's
just that the cars weren't on my side

1739
01:51:01.960 --> 01:51:08.039
that time. But you can have
phenomenal plays in Rocket League, which is

1740
01:51:08.039 --> 01:51:13.159
the game I'm discussing. Oh case
you didn't know by what my description that

1741
01:51:13.399 --> 01:51:17.359
make you feel like you are a
genius. You are the greatest gift to

1742
01:51:17.600 --> 01:51:21.359
all of sports. Dum when you
pop that ball up and it goes right

1743
01:51:21.399 --> 01:51:25.880
into the goal, just right.
And so that for me was that tweak

1744
01:51:25.920 --> 01:51:29.119
where it was like, I get
it. I understand why people watch sports,

1745
01:51:29.319 --> 01:51:31.760
not just not just play sports game. After Rocket League, I was

1746
01:51:31.760 --> 01:51:35.840
like, I understand why people wear
football jerseys. I get it now,

1747
01:51:36.520 --> 01:51:41.039
Like I like something clicked in my
brain why I understood why you would get

1748
01:51:41.079 --> 01:51:44.760
so stoked about a match like that. So, man, Rocket League was

1749
01:51:44.760 --> 01:51:46.880
like that for me. Were you
ever into like, you know, like

1750
01:51:46.960 --> 01:51:49.920
more arcade sports games like you know, Mario Tennis or anything like that,

1751
01:51:50.159 --> 01:51:54.119
or was Rocket League kind of the
first one for you? I don't think

1752
01:51:54.199 --> 01:51:58.560
so. I think even Smash was
really intimidating for me, which I'm not

1753
01:51:58.600 --> 01:52:00.720
sure is an arcade game, But
I guess the point is is like a

1754
01:52:00.800 --> 01:52:05.560
competitive, like group based sports game
I always found really competitive. I still

1755
01:52:05.640 --> 01:52:13.640
find like Street Fighter and a lot
of like fighting games to be really intimidating,

1756
01:52:13.720 --> 01:52:15.960
my fear being obviously like if I'm
just constantly the first person out that

1757
01:52:16.039 --> 01:52:18.800
I look like a ding dong,
so I want to get really good before

1758
01:52:18.840 --> 01:52:23.800
I can play publicly. Rocket League
didn't give me that anxiety. It felt

1759
01:52:23.840 --> 01:52:27.359
like it was allowed because there's teams
of three for me to be less good

1760
01:52:27.680 --> 01:52:30.199
and I could learn and hide amongst
my peers. I felt the same way

1761
01:52:30.319 --> 01:52:35.800
playing Counterstrike. So Counterstrike is very
intimidating, but if you play with a

1762
01:52:35.840 --> 01:52:40.079
group of people, you can lean
on them and be like, okay,

1763
01:52:40.119 --> 01:52:42.319
where can I like hide or how
can I help you? How can I

1764
01:52:42.560 --> 01:52:46.359
help you achieve your goals? And
it would allow me to learn graciously and

1765
01:52:46.520 --> 01:52:50.439
get better at the game. So
that is like a learning curve I'm willing

1766
01:52:50.560 --> 01:52:55.640
to do. Whereas like fighting games, it's essentially like do you suck or

1767
01:52:55.880 --> 01:53:00.279
not? And I suck, So
it's just to say out. Rocket League

1768
01:53:00.279 --> 01:53:04.159
is a great answer for that,
because it's like I have like actively hated

1769
01:53:04.239 --> 01:53:08.359
everything related to soccer, and like
part of that is probably my dad's indoctrination

1770
01:53:08.399 --> 01:53:14.479
of his like burning passion hatred of
soccer my entire life. But playing Rocket

1771
01:53:14.560 --> 01:53:15.279
League I was kind of like,
oh, okay, I mean, this

1772
01:53:15.439 --> 01:53:19.319
is literally just the rules of soccer
to an extent. I mean, but

1773
01:53:19.880 --> 01:53:24.000
it's like I completely see why this
would be pretty exciting, even if I

1774
01:53:24.079 --> 01:53:27.720
still don't find soccer exciting. It's
like, I conceptually, I can see

1775
01:53:27.760 --> 01:53:32.640
how people would enjoy soccer. For
me, it's I hate RP or JRPGs.

1776
01:53:32.680 --> 01:53:35.840
I grew up like really not understanding
the appeal at all, but I

1777
01:53:36.000 --> 01:53:41.119
love leveling up and I love skill
trees and growing up. Like you know,

1778
01:53:41.199 --> 01:53:44.439
there's not a lot of like leveling
up and skill trees and XP and

1779
01:53:44.479 --> 01:53:47.239
stuff outside of like JRPGs on any
s and Superintendo and Genesis and all that.

1780
01:53:48.640 --> 01:53:51.800
Final Fantasy ten or X was the
first one I played that I was

1781
01:53:51.840 --> 01:53:55.039
like, oh shit, the sphere
grid. I fucking love this thing.

1782
01:53:55.359 --> 01:54:00.439
But it wasn't until action games started
incorporating way like way more frequently. I'm

1783
01:54:00.439 --> 01:54:03.199
sure they're exceptions from prior years,
but like, like you know, Borderlands

1784
01:54:03.319 --> 01:54:08.680
having like a full on leveling up
skill tree situation and a mass effect,

1785
01:54:08.680 --> 01:54:11.760
even though Masfect is still pretty much
an RPG and everything like that, there

1786
01:54:11.920 --> 01:54:15.279
was action elements there along with the
RPG stuff, even like something as recently

1787
01:54:15.479 --> 01:54:19.560
Vampire Survivors. It's all about collecting
XP and making yourself stronger, Like if

1788
01:54:19.560 --> 01:54:25.159
I always loved that leveling up,
collecting XP skill tree stuff, and I

1789
01:54:25.279 --> 01:54:29.239
feel like now you can get that
at a million different game experiences. But

1790
01:54:29.399 --> 01:54:31.039
growing up, it's like that was
the realm of JRPGs, and I just

1791
01:54:31.119 --> 01:54:35.479
didn't want to go through the jirpgenus
of it all. So yeah, a

1792
01:54:35.560 --> 01:54:41.600
gateway. My last answer would be
I tend to shy away from point and

1793
01:54:41.640 --> 01:54:45.760
click adventure games or even like Disco
Lisium isn't technically point and click, and

1794
01:54:45.800 --> 01:54:50.640
it's got some cool things going on
there, but just adventure talkie RPGs in

1795
01:54:50.680 --> 01:54:56.479
general. I tend to shy away
with from but pentiment. As you know,

1796
01:54:56.560 --> 01:54:58.840
if you've listened to our Game of
the Year chats, I fucking love

1797
01:54:58.880 --> 01:55:00.680
a few of us did, but
I really did, even though that shouldn't

1798
01:55:00.720 --> 01:55:04.079
on paper be my kind of game. The slight tweak that that game does

1799
01:55:04.199 --> 01:55:08.199
that even New Vegas, which Obsidian
also worked on, and a lot of

1800
01:55:08.199 --> 01:55:10.840
Fallout games and a lot of other
games, I like the thing that Pentiment

1801
01:55:10.920 --> 01:55:15.119
did is it's not a thing where
you're exhausting every conversation option. You pick

1802
01:55:15.199 --> 01:55:17.840
one and you move forward with the
conversation. You're not going back to do

1803
01:55:17.920 --> 01:55:20.760
every So it's like feels less like
this checklist and more like, oh,

1804
01:55:20.800 --> 01:55:25.159
it's a real conversation where I could
say the wrong thing and the conversation just

1805
01:55:25.319 --> 01:55:28.880
might go off the hinges from there. And I think that's a big part

1806
01:55:28.920 --> 01:55:33.319
of why I like Pentiment's dialogue,
because it's not this matter of crossing things

1807
01:55:33.359 --> 01:55:36.720
off this list to make sure I
ask them everything. It's say something,

1808
01:55:36.880 --> 01:55:40.600
and like a person, they will
respond, and then I'll respond to that

1809
01:55:40.640 --> 01:55:43.479
and it'll move forward. There's four
momentum in the conversations, and that game

1810
01:55:43.560 --> 01:55:47.800
just keeps moving. That game's really
good. It's always fun when you have

1811
01:55:48.039 --> 01:55:53.479
these assumptions that you won't like a
game because it's not your jam, and

1812
01:55:53.640 --> 01:55:57.159
it subverts those expectations. And I
think with the amount of games that we

1813
01:55:57.319 --> 01:56:02.079
all play, it probably happens to
us more then we're gonna remember and say

1814
01:56:02.199 --> 01:56:06.880
in this moment. But there's a
lot of times that I can think about

1815
01:56:06.960 --> 01:56:11.640
where I would be like, there's
probably not that's not a game for me,

1816
01:56:11.720 --> 01:56:14.520
and it turns out that it was
or the opposite, right. I

1817
01:56:14.640 --> 01:56:15.880
was like super convinced I was going
to love a game, and it turns

1818
01:56:15.920 --> 01:56:19.760
out it just like didn't click for
me. But I do love when that

1819
01:56:19.920 --> 01:56:25.800
happens, and I find out that
a game reaches me in like some unique

1820
01:56:25.840 --> 01:56:30.000
way and kind of expands my my
repertoire of like the types of games that

1821
01:56:30.159 --> 01:56:35.359
I would typically play. I think
Divinity Original Sin is not a game I

1822
01:56:35.399 --> 01:56:40.319
would thought I would like and I
fell in love with it, And I

1823
01:56:40.399 --> 01:56:43.039
think it's because it's point and it's
like, what's it called. It's a

1824
01:56:45.000 --> 01:56:50.760
yeah, son RPG, it's turn
base. It's very complicated. There's like

1825
01:56:51.039 --> 01:56:55.640
shit tons of backstory and character development, and usually when a game is like

1826
01:56:55.760 --> 01:56:57.720
that, I'm like, I'm not
getting into all that. Just tell me

1827
01:56:57.840 --> 01:57:02.279
to jump to a place and I'll
do it. Divinity just became a game

1828
01:57:02.359 --> 01:57:06.680
that I could eat snacks and veg
out and play for days, and I

1829
01:57:06.960 --> 01:57:11.520
became obsessed with it. And now
I'm grateful for that experience because if there's

1830
01:57:11.520 --> 01:57:15.479
another game that boasts that it's Divinity, like that piques my interest now,

1831
01:57:15.680 --> 01:57:16.359
whereas before I would be like,
no, no, no, I do

1832
01:57:16.439 --> 01:57:20.000
not like complicated games like that,
but now I do. That is a

1833
01:57:20.039 --> 01:57:24.720
good feeling when something does just kind
of challenge your preconceptions in a way that

1834
01:57:25.199 --> 01:57:29.640
is positive. Where I remember when
Outer Wilds came out, it was one

1835
01:57:29.640 --> 01:57:32.119
of those games where it's like all
the intellectual you know, games media type,

1836
01:57:32.119 --> 01:57:34.159
which was just like, let me
tell you about ah, here's my

1837
01:57:34.279 --> 01:57:38.399
thing. Basically, there's like a
direct correlation between the amount of think pieces

1838
01:57:38.479 --> 01:57:40.880
there are about a game and my
enjoyment of it, Like the more there

1839
01:57:40.920 --> 01:57:43.079
are, the less likely I am
like, all right, this is a

1840
01:57:43.159 --> 01:57:45.720
my flute and bullshit. That's like
you know, the intellectuals you know,

1841
01:57:45.840 --> 01:57:47.239
like or whatever. And I saw
that a lot with Outer Wilds, and

1842
01:57:47.239 --> 01:57:49.279
I saw a lot of people are
saying some very heavy stuff about it,

1843
01:57:49.279 --> 01:57:50.880
and I was like, all right, that sounds like some bullshit to me.

1844
01:57:51.199 --> 01:57:56.159
And then Mike and I went and
got some dinner after work one time

1845
01:57:56.159 --> 01:57:59.800
when I was back at the Giant
Bomb East office, and Mike understand I've

1846
01:57:59.800 --> 01:58:01.600
talked found the forward. Like Mike
understands like how to get me into a

1847
01:58:01.640 --> 01:58:04.119
game. He also understands when something
is a losing battle where it's like,

1848
01:58:04.359 --> 01:58:06.359
listen, you're not going to get
into it. It's not your type of

1849
01:58:06.439 --> 01:58:10.159
thing. Like, so when he
gives me the hard pitch on something,

1850
01:58:10.279 --> 01:58:12.760
I listen, and he gave me
the hard pitch on Out or Wild,

1851
01:58:13.079 --> 01:58:15.279
and I was like, all right, I'm gonna give it a shot.

1852
01:58:15.399 --> 01:58:16.960
And it became my game of the
year and so like, but that that

1853
01:58:17.039 --> 01:58:20.520
feels so good where it's like something
that I initially wrote off because like,

1854
01:58:20.600 --> 01:58:24.119
oh, you know, these people
that I normally don't agree with like it

1855
01:58:24.199 --> 01:58:27.640
or whatever. I was wrong and
I played it and it was fucking awesome,

1856
01:58:27.680 --> 01:58:29.800
and I'm glad to have been wrong, because you know, it's one

1857
01:58:29.840 --> 01:58:31.239
of my favorite games of all time. So yeah, yeah. I think

1858
01:58:31.279 --> 01:58:35.720
two years ago it was time Loops
that got a lot of people like attaching

1859
01:58:35.800 --> 01:58:39.319
time Loops to a different genre.
I got a lot of people into him.

1860
01:58:39.399 --> 01:58:42.319
That was like the thing of the
year. I feel like twenty twenty

1861
01:58:42.359 --> 01:58:46.840
two, a lot of different genres
got attached to management sims in a way

1862
01:58:46.880 --> 01:58:51.239
that worked really well. Call to
the Lamb, baron Breakfast, what other

1863
01:58:51.319 --> 01:58:56.560
stuff there was, Arcade, Paradise, and none of these were blockbusters.

1864
01:58:56.680 --> 01:58:59.920
Call to the Lamb probably came closest, but we had a whole best Star

1865
01:59:00.279 --> 01:59:01.520
of the Year category. Yeah.
Yeah, it's like I think that was

1866
01:59:01.640 --> 01:59:05.800
kind of the indie trend of last
year, but not quite as big as

1867
01:59:05.840 --> 01:59:09.640
the time loop thing or like rogue
Lights a couple of years ago. But

1868
01:59:10.079 --> 01:59:12.760
it's it's always fun when that can
bring you into a new genre. But

1869
01:59:13.239 --> 01:59:15.479
but yeah, thank you, John, appreciate the question. All Right,

1870
01:59:15.520 --> 01:59:18.239
you guys ready for a quiz.
This shouldn't be too long, always pretty

1871
01:59:18.239 --> 01:59:24.159
simple, so I'm always ready.
Of course, I'm excited to maintain my

1872
01:59:24.279 --> 01:59:27.800
winning streak, which is amazing that
that can happen, in addition to the

1873
01:59:27.880 --> 01:59:32.119
fact that Tan's never been defeating Cut
it out, cut that cut that cut.

1874
01:59:32.399 --> 01:59:35.239
All right, I'm gonna read this. This is from Mario or Mario,

1875
01:59:35.399 --> 01:59:39.760
depending on where you live. He's
famous. Um, I'll read this

1876
01:59:39.880 --> 01:59:42.119
off and then I'll be the quizmaster
because I saw a few of these,

1877
01:59:42.159 --> 01:59:45.680
so basically you're just guessing who said
what quote on this podcast. Hey,

1878
01:59:45.760 --> 01:59:48.439
y'all, I that's funny. I
have compile a list of memorable slash absurd

1879
01:59:48.479 --> 01:59:53.119
quotes from episodes throughout twenty twenty two, specifically, and I figured you guys

1880
01:59:53.159 --> 01:59:55.560
can make a quiz out of it, quiz rules. Someone to be the

1881
01:59:55.640 --> 01:59:59.800
quiz master. That'll be me and
just pick random quotes. So right now

1882
02:00:00.000 --> 02:00:02.720
I'm looking at it's compiled under each
person, but I'm gonna go randomly through

1883
02:00:02.760 --> 02:00:05.359
them while the other two guests who
said it and I could choose whatever.

1884
02:00:05.560 --> 02:00:10.479
We are we taking turns? Are
we just shouting out our names and then

1885
02:00:10.560 --> 02:00:13.760
answering m do we want to write
it on paper like we did the last

1886
02:00:13.800 --> 02:00:16.199
couple times? Do you think it's
that tricky or do you think we should

1887
02:00:16.239 --> 02:00:19.880
just say it? Um? The
question? How there are some I mean,

1888
02:00:19.960 --> 02:00:26.760
there's one that's quite mathematically completely me
which how about it's not spoiling anything.

1889
02:00:27.079 --> 02:00:30.039
How About how about we each get
a guess. We don't do the

1890
02:00:30.079 --> 02:00:39.199
paper thing, We'll just in case
there are some better. Okay. The

1891
02:00:39.279 --> 02:00:43.079
only problem with that is one of
you is inefortably going to get a lot

1892
02:00:43.119 --> 02:00:45.439
of easy ones, like there's one
that could not be forget everything we talk

1893
02:00:45.439 --> 02:00:49.800
about every recording. No, these
are pretty let's go okay, somebody getting

1894
02:00:49.840 --> 02:00:53.520
hard ones is funny? Okay,
okay, okay, um, let me

1895
02:00:53.640 --> 02:00:57.600
start with I'm gonna I'm gonna copy
Pascis into a different doc so I can

1896
02:00:57.840 --> 02:01:00.760
strike through the ones I've already used. Give me vamp for like five seconds,

1897
02:01:01.279 --> 02:01:04.239
Mary, say something hilarious right now? Nope? Done? Okay,

1898
02:01:04.880 --> 02:01:11.680
Um, all right, I'm gonna
start with I'm so glad I'm with this

1899
02:01:11.760 --> 02:01:18.319
one. Um, all right,
I'm gonna start with this one because technically

1900
02:01:18.359 --> 02:01:21.319
it's not even this person's quote.
They were quoting something else. All right,

1901
02:01:21.560 --> 02:01:25.680
Mary, I'm gonna start with you. Who said, Okay, quote,

1902
02:01:25.920 --> 02:01:29.359
I'm just going around a funerals watching
cold flesh flop out of rotten wood.

1903
02:01:30.239 --> 02:01:33.960
Unquote. Oh that sounds like something
you would say, Mikey. Is

1904
02:01:34.000 --> 02:01:40.760
that your final answer? Yeah?
Yeah, it was me's I was quoting

1905
02:01:41.319 --> 02:01:43.520
from. I think you should leave, but I think you're the only person.

1906
02:01:45.600 --> 02:01:49.840
It's yes, it's very like a
violent and visceral and it just sounds

1907
02:01:49.880 --> 02:01:54.359
like something you would say in a
threatening era. It totally is. All

1908
02:01:54.399 --> 02:01:59.000
right, Mary, I'm gonna you
got one point Yay, I'm right,

1909
02:01:59.119 --> 02:02:05.000
dan Um going there's some I can't
believe we said some of this, all

1910
02:02:05.079 --> 02:02:13.960
right, Um, okay, quote
nobody wants to be Nobody wants to buy

1911
02:02:14.039 --> 02:02:18.319
your fake sonic The Hedgehog weed you
bought at sex World unquote. Well,

1912
02:02:18.359 --> 02:02:21.840
it's definitely not me because I was
the one who bought the weed at sex

1913
02:02:21.920 --> 02:02:31.319
World. Um fake weed. Uh. Mary said that correct? That was

1914
02:02:31.479 --> 02:02:39.079
that was recent. That such a
classic Dan thing to resell weed. I

1915
02:02:39.199 --> 02:02:43.640
didn't successfully resell it. I tried
to. Okay, it was not purchased

1916
02:02:44.000 --> 02:02:47.680
Mary. This one's you or it's
for you, okay. Quote I'm a

1917
02:02:47.760 --> 02:02:50.239
dollar. Do whatever you are with
me, Toss me around, roll me

1918
02:02:50.319 --> 02:02:59.279
up, snort some coke with me. Unquote. I mean again, sounds

1919
02:02:59.319 --> 02:03:02.119
like a very I think to say, what about that sounds like a mean

1920
02:03:02.199 --> 02:03:06.720
thing to say. I mean,
you're right, the fact that I oh,

1921
02:03:08.079 --> 02:03:12.319
okay, yes, you're correct,
all right. I just think it's

1922
02:03:12.359 --> 02:03:16.880
funny. You always have like drug
jokes. Okay, I'm not okay,

1923
02:03:16.960 --> 02:03:20.359
Dan, this is yours because Dan
is straight edge and I'm you know,

1924
02:03:20.560 --> 02:03:25.399
I'm just adorable. You're the I'm
the link one that had marijuana and saw

1925
02:03:25.520 --> 02:03:30.880
avatar fucking you criminal? All right, Dan, this one's you. Yeah.

1926
02:03:30.119 --> 02:03:36.960
Quote I've never masturbade it to Tim
Allen for the record, that sounds

1927
02:03:38.000 --> 02:03:43.479
like me. Correct, okay,
and it is accurate. That statement is

1928
02:03:43.479 --> 02:03:49.560
accurate. I've never masturbated or Tim
Taylor. All right, for the record,

1929
02:03:50.279 --> 02:03:56.920
Okay, okay, Mary, this
one's for you. Quote does hot

1930
02:03:56.960 --> 02:04:03.199
dog have salt? Unquote? Damn
it, I mean off just off the

1931
02:04:03.279 --> 02:04:09.000
cuff. It's that's a very Dan
question. It sounds off the coff.

1932
02:04:09.119 --> 02:04:15.159
Is that your final answer? Yeah, you're correct, because, like sometimes

1933
02:04:15.640 --> 02:04:19.000
you or I could say something like
silly like that, but when it's food

1934
02:04:19.079 --> 02:04:24.760
related, I have to assume that
it's Dan. That's kind that can get

1935
02:04:24.800 --> 02:04:28.680
me into trouble one day, but
I feel like that's possible. Okay,

1936
02:04:29.079 --> 02:04:35.159
Dan, Yes, this one's for
you. Mama Candleope, give me the

1937
02:04:35.239 --> 02:04:43.840
candle Ope. That sounds like Mike
mahrdy. That was you. I've never

1938
02:04:44.119 --> 02:04:46.119
I don't know if I've ever said
cantleope. I think that was dirty,

1939
02:04:46.720 --> 02:04:53.079
said Mamma Candle. I think it
was Dirtay, maybe I thought about cantalope.

1940
02:04:53.119 --> 02:04:56.119
I was find Yoshi story. That
was the word you beat me on

1941
02:04:56.359 --> 02:05:00.279
in the spelling Bee. Oh well, okay, without context. I've never

1942
02:05:00.399 --> 02:05:06.199
thought about camels in my life,
but Lupe Mario did at the beginning to

1943
02:05:06.319 --> 02:05:13.000
say in a parent ses in a
fairy wow, in a feral Comma oddly

1944
02:05:13.079 --> 02:05:15.560
sexual voice colon. So I was
trying to mimic that without sounding too much

1945
02:05:15.600 --> 02:05:20.279
like Dan. Okay, Mary's up
three to two. That's so funny.

1946
02:05:21.199 --> 02:05:25.960
Also, it goes with my note
that if it's food related, it's probably

1947
02:05:26.079 --> 02:05:29.920
Dan. Maybe. All right,
you're ready, Mary, this one's for

1948
02:05:29.960 --> 02:05:33.720
you is wine food? Yeah,
okay, Mary, put that in the

1949
02:05:33.840 --> 02:05:39.439
next one, Marry. This one's
for you. Quote I'm gonna shit in

1950
02:05:39.479 --> 02:05:43.239
a toilet and I want you to
drink it. Unquote. Oh that's me.

1951
02:05:43.680 --> 02:05:47.399
I said that too, Dan.
Yeah, I remember that like it

1952
02:05:47.600 --> 02:05:56.840
was yesterday. It was about the
water straw that apparently makes all water fresh

1953
02:05:56.880 --> 02:06:00.600
as the day that it came from
a cloud. And then I drink a

1954
02:06:00.039 --> 02:06:03.319
drink out of my toilet, though
I'm not going to I don't trust it.

1955
02:06:04.000 --> 02:06:09.520
Okay, I can get water much
easier way. This one is for

1956
02:06:09.600 --> 02:06:12.479
you. I got numerous spotsts in
my house. Dan. This one's for

1957
02:06:12.520 --> 02:06:15.119
you. It's a bit of a
softball, and you'll see why. But

1958
02:06:15.840 --> 02:06:18.479
it's just it's you, and you're
behind two anyway, so I'll give you

1959
02:06:18.560 --> 02:06:23.399
one, all right. Quote.
I can't even wipe my own ass correctly,

1960
02:06:23.439 --> 02:06:28.119
and I'm nearly thirty years old.
It could be anyone. That could

1961
02:06:28.159 --> 02:06:31.680
be any of us. Wait,
nearly it should have been probably nearly thirty

1962
02:06:31.760 --> 02:06:39.199
one. Well, in that case, it's got to be just because the

1963
02:06:39.359 --> 02:06:43.279
numbers. Mike, yep, Okay, I might have said. I might

1964
02:06:43.319 --> 02:06:45.720
have accidentally said that. I don't
know. Maybe that's why it's to day.

1965
02:06:45.840 --> 02:06:48.119
So I'm my wiping situation better than
ever. Okay, Mary, four

1966
02:06:48.159 --> 02:06:51.079
to three, But Mary, it's
your turn again. Mary, I'll give

1967
02:06:51.119 --> 02:06:57.159
you a softball as well. Quote
my favorite place to poop is a Walmart

1968
02:06:57.439 --> 02:07:09.239
unquote a shoemaker. I think that
could be anyone, but I do recall

1969
02:07:09.600 --> 02:07:15.079
a pooping conversation with Dan Reiker.
Yes, you are correct, true,

1970
02:07:15.600 --> 02:07:19.359
okay Dan. And there are three
more, so one of them will be

1971
02:07:19.840 --> 02:07:21.840
I don't know. I guess I
should have said one of the obvious ones.

1972
02:07:21.880 --> 02:07:26.640
For whatever. We'll figure this out, all right, Dan. Quote

1973
02:07:27.800 --> 02:07:30.840
oh no, he got his Penissee
hands all over your shredded cheese. Unquote

1974
02:07:32.680 --> 02:07:38.199
say it again, Oh no,
he got his Penissee hands all over your

1975
02:07:38.239 --> 02:07:44.880
shredded cheese. Now the story is
about my dad being mad about me.

1976
02:07:45.880 --> 02:07:48.840
He thinks that I've scrabbed my penis
and then grabbed his shredded cheese. But

1977
02:07:49.000 --> 02:07:53.800
the context of the quote, please
say one more time. Oh no,

1978
02:07:54.079 --> 02:08:01.680
he got his penisee hands all over
your shredded cheese. Us he refers to

1979
02:08:01.840 --> 02:08:05.159
me, I wouldn't say he referring
to me. So it's gonna be one

1980
02:08:05.199 --> 02:08:11.159
of YouTube I'm only who can prevent
us the correct answer. What was your

1981
02:08:11.199 --> 02:08:18.880
final answer? You said you were
Fred's. That's one of my favorite fucking

1982
02:08:18.000 --> 02:08:24.760
jokes. I'm gonna say it's Mary
correct. Okay, good job, all

1983
02:08:24.840 --> 02:08:30.319
right, Mary, this one is
for you. Quote. Yes, you

1984
02:08:30.439 --> 02:08:35.680
want the world's best minds on your
anal dot dot dot cysts. I'll reread

1985
02:08:35.720 --> 02:08:39.279
that without the elipsis, yes,
you want the world's best minds on your

1986
02:08:39.319 --> 02:08:54.199
anal cysts. End quote. Um, I can't no for sure. This

1987
02:08:54.479 --> 02:09:01.439
is We talk about but stuff a
lot on this show, and I think

1988
02:09:01.479 --> 02:09:09.520
there's been discussion of sis before.
This is very gross and because again it's

1989
02:09:09.800 --> 02:09:18.600
your sis, I'm gonna say it's
Mike. You would be correct. Thing

1990
02:09:18.720 --> 02:09:22.439
is about my hamrhoid. I think
so, Yeah, I believe so.

1991
02:09:22.199 --> 02:09:28.520
I believe it was like referring you
referring to you, Dan, So you

1992
02:09:28.640 --> 02:09:31.600
wouldn't have said it all right,
Well, Dan, you physically it's an

1993
02:09:31.600 --> 02:09:37.439
impossibility for you to win, but
this last one is for you and keep

1994
02:09:37.520 --> 02:09:39.760
me from thinking I did. Yeah, I know this last one for you.

1995
02:09:39.840 --> 02:09:45.359
Quote? Right, so not everything
that lays eggs is a fish end

1996
02:09:45.439 --> 02:09:52.119
quote that sounds like me. Yeah, okay, that's true. I think

1997
02:09:52.199 --> 02:09:58.479
that for future shows a quote it's
mathematically impossible for you to win, it

1998
02:09:58.600 --> 02:10:01.760
won't keep me from think. And
that is a pretty good There's been a

1999
02:10:01.800 --> 02:10:11.119
few on this episode. True.
I don't like you're pretty consistent. You

2000
02:10:11.159 --> 02:10:15.079
guys pretty consistently make me laugh,
which is hard. I'm a tough crap.

2001
02:10:15.199 --> 02:10:18.720
No, I'm not. I laugh
at everything. I laugh at everything.

2002
02:10:18.960 --> 02:10:22.319
But I think that you're both extraordinarily
funny. And I did a couple

2003
02:10:22.439 --> 02:10:26.720
spit takes at some of those quotes. They're very funny. I also have

2004
02:10:26.840 --> 02:10:31.359
to say, I'm a hard critic
of myself, so to hear a quote

2005
02:10:31.520 --> 02:10:35.840
and being like he I said that
is funny because I typically don't consider myself

2006
02:10:37.000 --> 02:10:39.800
very funny. It's fun trying to
remember the context, and so it's like,

2007
02:10:39.840 --> 02:10:41.359
oh, analsis okay, that was
the hamorrhoid that I remember talking about

2008
02:10:41.359 --> 02:10:46.199
hamorrhoids down here. Yeah, yeah, I'm drinking moose water here. I've

2009
02:10:46.239 --> 02:10:50.720
never masturbated to Tim Allen. For
the record, it's pretty fucking funny.

2010
02:10:50.079 --> 02:10:52.520
I don't know why I said that, because it is true. You.

2011
02:10:52.960 --> 02:10:56.760
I think you jokingly said something and
then I called out the fact that it

2012
02:10:56.800 --> 02:10:58.199
would sound very weird as a sound
bite. So you're like, Jake,

2013
02:10:58.359 --> 02:11:01.920
Jake, Jake, Jake, I've
never masturbated to Tim Allen. For the

2014
02:11:01.000 --> 02:11:05.680
record, I definitely haven't that.
I've watched a lot of Home Improvement and

2015
02:11:05.760 --> 02:11:09.600
I played the superintendent. While either
was happening. We were probably talking about

2016
02:11:09.640 --> 02:11:13.520
someone you've like jaded to on a
VHS cover and it was a movie he

2017
02:11:13.640 --> 02:11:16.079
was in, and you were clarifying
that it wasn't him. You were jading

2018
02:11:16.119 --> 02:11:18.840
it too, jaded too, that
would be in a Tim Allen Santa Claus

2019
02:11:18.880 --> 02:11:31.000
Tom I mean just I mean Jungle
Toyster. I don't know, uh,

2020
02:11:31.600 --> 02:11:37.600
I know, definitely know CGI characters, No wild Hogs, who's in it?

2021
02:11:37.680 --> 02:11:43.920
Everyone I've seen wilds you have?
Oh yeah, it's terrible. Just

2022
02:11:45.000 --> 02:11:52.000
google Hot Jayable people in Tim Allen
movies. Are you not googling Hot Jayable

2023
02:11:52.199 --> 02:11:58.000
characters? I don't. In in
my teenage years, I subscribed to Entertainment

2024
02:11:58.039 --> 02:12:03.840
Weekly and there was definite some jang
to uh Hollywood celebrity ladies and uh,

2025
02:12:05.399 --> 02:12:07.239
I'm sure there has to be a
crossover with Tim Allen films. Google.

2026
02:12:07.520 --> 02:12:11.520
Google's like, are you sure you
didn't mean hot playable characters and Tim Allen

2027
02:12:11.560 --> 02:12:16.640
movies. He's trying to give you
an out, Google request. I don't

2028
02:12:16.680 --> 02:12:22.520
think I've masturbated. Speak for yourself. What else is the end? Oh,

2029
02:12:22.600 --> 02:12:26.960
Wendy Crusen, she was in I
kind of want to figure this out

2030
02:12:28.039 --> 02:12:31.119
now, toy story, Big Trouble
in Little China, Oh big? Oh

2031
02:12:31.279 --> 02:12:33.319
that? Oh I haven't. I
don't know if I've seen that. Let

2032
02:12:33.359 --> 02:12:43.359
me see big Gene Russo's in it
and she's hot row Renee Russo. It

2033
02:12:43.640 --> 02:12:46.680
Tomas Crown affair, Renee Russo.
That might be the answer there, I

2034
02:12:46.760 --> 02:12:50.479
think that might have happened. Yeah, Oh, hang on, I'm looking

2035
02:12:50.520 --> 02:12:52.800
at the cast of Big Trouble,
U Sophie of our guyers and there,

2036
02:12:52.880 --> 02:13:01.399
yes, certainly at some point,
yes, without question. I mean,

2037
02:13:03.159 --> 02:13:05.359
well, she has been around that
long. I feel like most of my

2038
02:13:05.479 --> 02:13:09.159
j Into celebrities were like in the
late nineties, and I don't know she

2039
02:13:09.439 --> 02:13:13.079
was a common vernacular that I really
do think Thomas Crown affair. Renee Russo

2040
02:13:13.199 --> 02:13:18.720
is the answer. Why do I
Why I know Renee russ So? Why

2041
02:13:18.760 --> 02:13:22.520
am I not? Can I not
picture her? Oh right, yeah,

2042
02:13:24.039 --> 02:13:28.560
let's see raising the aunt says it's
Coney Weaver. Now I don't think so.

2043
02:13:30.119 --> 02:13:33.279
Christmas of the Cranks, who is
in that Christmas with the Cranks?

2044
02:13:33.800 --> 02:13:41.079
Oh Christmas Cranks been wild hogs.
Now we're just googling Tim Allen. Oh

2045
02:13:41.159 --> 02:13:46.039
no, I stumbled ato like fan
porn of Renee Russo and the Thomas Cross

2046
02:13:46.239 --> 02:13:50.720
Okay, oh okay, hang on, hang on, wild Hogs, Marissa

2047
02:13:50.800 --> 02:13:56.199
domas in it? Oh yeah,
okay, game over. No question,

2048
02:13:56.039 --> 02:14:00.479
it's the most that's the most Jewish
Gastanza thing about you is obsession with Marissa

2049
02:14:00.520 --> 02:14:07.760
to May No I ever goodness,
yes you say good goodness, goodness.

2050
02:14:07.840 --> 02:14:16.319
I got a little plus honey.
Oh boy, okay, I'm at midnight,

2051
02:14:16.960 --> 02:14:24.000
all right. Question answered, We're
like Marissa toes May no Jay cut

2052
02:14:24.079 --> 02:14:30.039
that it's not my best cut.
That Jay cut that Jake timestamp three hours,

2053
02:14:30.079 --> 02:14:35.359
forty five minutes. I'd make a
dumb pound about Marissa's toes. Oh

2054
02:14:35.399 --> 02:14:39.439
thanks anyway, Thank you everybody who
wrote in. Remember Mario, thank you

2055
02:14:39.600 --> 02:14:41.760
very much for the quiz he put
together. We say some real, real

2056
02:14:41.840 --> 02:14:46.960
intelligent things in this podcast. Uh, it's been a fun year. We

2057
02:14:46.399 --> 02:14:50.800
technically closed out last week, but
it's now twenty twenty three. Looking forward

2058
02:14:50.840 --> 02:14:54.680
to some video games here, looking
forward to already looking forward to next December

2059
02:14:54.760 --> 02:14:58.520
when we do our Game of the
Year, talk about I don't know,

2060
02:14:58.640 --> 02:15:01.119
unless it sucks, we'll be talking
about Tears of the Kingdom. We'll we

2061
02:15:01.359 --> 02:15:09.560
have resume before remake. Imagine it
sucks, happened, resume before remake?

2062
02:15:09.920 --> 02:15:13.920
Maybe Starfield Dead Space remake? What
else is? What else? Next year?

2063
02:15:15.000 --> 02:15:18.359
Next year's got a lot of stuff, right pretty much? Think about

2064
02:15:18.680 --> 02:15:26.600
three Fighter six six Yeah that's that
was too close to the Yeah, it's

2065
02:15:26.680 --> 02:15:31.359
right in there. I don't like
that. Um yeah, there they'll be

2066
02:15:31.399 --> 02:15:33.119
some big stuff. I'm looking forward
to it. But it'll be a fun

2067
02:15:33.239 --> 02:15:37.159
year. I'm sure. I'll try
to argue Dwarf Fortress on your Top of

2068
02:15:37.279 --> 02:15:41.039
the Year. It's eligible for polygons, so as Marvel's Midnight Suns there they

2069
02:15:41.079 --> 02:15:46.039
came out out for our cutoff.
Anyways, I think that we should make

2070
02:15:46.960 --> 02:15:54.239
a category for our favorite updated piece
of entertainment. And it could be like

2071
02:15:56.479 --> 02:16:00.800
I don't care when it came out, it's it's been dated, and now

2072
02:16:00.880 --> 02:16:05.199
it's up for like a new discussion, Like let's get it updated. If

2073
02:16:05.279 --> 02:16:11.279
I learned some new shit about punch
Out, Uh, you know that's best.

2074
02:16:11.399 --> 02:16:13.760
We already have a category for that, and that's best game that you

2075
02:16:13.840 --> 02:16:16.520
played this year that didn't come out
game. Did we not do a best

2076
02:16:16.640 --> 02:16:18.000
updated game? I thought, yeah
we did. We thought no, it

2077
02:16:18.079 --> 02:16:20.119
was one of ours that we cut. I think we had like a best

2078
02:16:20.439 --> 02:16:24.920
live or updated game on the earlier
we did, and we cut music as

2079
02:16:24.960 --> 02:16:28.119
well. And you know it's interesting, is like I fought to keep it.

2080
02:16:28.279 --> 02:16:30.359
At first, I was like,
no, we're not cutting that because

2081
02:16:30.359 --> 02:16:33.319
like I really wanted to give like
a couple of music games they're due.

2082
02:16:33.719 --> 02:16:37.079
And then I saw that we had
I think I wanted like Metal Health Singer

2083
02:16:37.159 --> 02:16:39.680
to like get some get like to
you know, get some coverage because it's

2084
02:16:39.680 --> 02:16:43.159
such a good audio game. But
I saw that we had like twenty one

2085
02:16:43.239 --> 02:16:46.159
categories, and right as we're going
live, I was like, oh,

2086
02:16:46.280 --> 02:16:50.399
cut that shit, like I'm gonna
be here in the morning. Banger Game

2087
02:16:50.440 --> 02:16:52.280
of the Year, we could best
banger. Yes, that was fun.

2088
02:16:52.559 --> 02:16:56.079
Yeah, we got a bunch of
them, um and we had the best

2089
02:16:56.200 --> 02:17:00.479
old game, We had the best
live We like Fortnite and Fall Guys and

2090
02:17:00.600 --> 02:17:01.520
some older games and stuff. So
yeah, we kind of a bunch of

2091
02:17:01.559 --> 02:17:05.959
categories. But anything can come back. Well, we'll see, but that's

2092
02:17:07.000 --> 02:17:09.239
the beauty Game of the Year.
It's always fun putting together. It was

2093
02:17:09.239 --> 02:17:11.159
categories. You know who I'm looking
forward to seeing next year? Who's that

2094
02:17:11.440 --> 02:17:18.559
cool Judge Jake Cool coming back?
That motherfucker. I think I think people

2095
02:17:18.559 --> 02:17:22.600
would riot if Judge Cool Judge Jake
was not a Game of the Year twenty

2096
02:17:22.680 --> 02:17:26.239
twenty three. J Jake Decker absolutely
should be there with that Judge. I

2097
02:17:26.280 --> 02:17:30.600
don't know about that. I think
Judge Cool Cool Judge Jake made the show.

2098
02:17:31.200 --> 02:17:39.399
Cool Judge Jake, Oh my god, literally came together as an accident

2099
02:17:39.559 --> 02:17:41.120
like two hours. Yeah, that's
cool, man, that's groovy. We

2100
02:17:41.200 --> 02:17:43.840
do we do we tell that story? Should we? I think we did?

2101
02:17:45.479 --> 02:17:48.079
Did we well? The short version
is I bought a fucking Judge outfit

2102
02:17:48.399 --> 02:17:52.399
and the picture on Amazon showed it
with a Judge wig the old timey wig

2103
02:17:52.680 --> 02:17:54.959
and it didn't come with that,
and the only other wig I had it

2104
02:17:56.000 --> 02:17:58.879
was up a grouper wig. And
then we just threw sunglasses on him.

2105
02:17:58.879 --> 02:18:03.159
We're like, I don't know,
you're cool. Really all came out of

2106
02:18:03.280 --> 02:18:07.159
like an accident. We just didn't
have a wig and he looked so actually

2107
02:18:07.239 --> 02:18:11.280
just didn't look like a judge.
He just looks like a fucking crazy like

2108
02:18:11.360 --> 02:18:15.319
a Harry Potter character with a mullet. Yeah, he didn't look had in

2109
02:18:15.360 --> 02:18:18.280
the house, just from a mcgrouper. So once we had the mcgrouper hair,

2110
02:18:18.399 --> 02:18:20.520
it was like, well, now
he needs like something to like really

2111
02:18:20.600 --> 02:18:26.079
solidify that he's cool, which was
the sunglasses, and that really sealed before

2112
02:18:26.840 --> 02:18:31.360
I went back to listen to him
interrupting an argument to ask for a beer

2113
02:18:31.440 --> 02:18:35.360
with the like the music and everything
in the gavel's gonna have a beer,

2114
02:18:35.639 --> 02:18:39.559
clunk. I don't agree with the
jestice system of this podcast, but that

2115
02:18:39.639 --> 02:18:43.040
guy is pretty fucking cool. Yeah, he's so cool. He's pretty cool.

2116
02:18:43.959 --> 02:18:46.399
But anyway, yeah, I'll be
next year. In the meantime,

2117
02:18:46.920 --> 02:18:50.760
as we mentioned, thank you so
much to patrons who supported us throughout twenty

2118
02:18:50.840 --> 02:18:52.920
twenty two. Whether you're just treating
as a tip jar because you love what

2119
02:18:52.959 --> 02:18:56.079
we're doing, or you're doing the
ad free level, or you're doing the

2120
02:18:56.159 --> 02:18:58.879
videos, or you're just signing on
for a bonus episode before jumping off.

2121
02:18:58.920 --> 02:19:01.639
Whatever you're doing, it helps helps
us do the in person stuff, get

2122
02:19:01.719 --> 02:19:03.719
Jake and Mary out to the East
Coast. Hopefully next year we can go

2123
02:19:03.760 --> 02:19:07.280
out to the West Coast, switch
things up a bit um every you know,

2124
02:19:07.479 --> 02:19:11.280
scent helps and it's very much a
side project, but we're very passionate

2125
02:19:11.319 --> 02:19:15.079
about it and it's very fun.
The Game of the Year extravaganzas kind of

2126
02:19:15.120 --> 02:19:16.920
the dissolation of what I think I
could speak for all three of us.

2127
02:19:16.959 --> 02:19:20.520
That's what we always envisioned this being, and that's what we strive for.

2128
02:19:20.000 --> 02:19:22.719
And it was a blast to put
it on. Dan. The amount of

2129
02:19:22.840 --> 02:19:28.799
pre production work you put in was
pretty c It's honestly just so much goddamn

2130
02:19:28.840 --> 02:19:31.440
fun, Like the old time was. Setting it up was like, oh

2131
02:19:31.559 --> 02:19:33.000
man, this is gonna be good. Like everything just worked. We had

2132
02:19:33.000 --> 02:19:35.760
the space for it, we had
the cameras for it. It was ah,

2133
02:19:35.959 --> 02:19:39.600
it was so much fun. Look
for that shit. Bringing Jake on.

2134
02:19:39.760 --> 02:19:43.120
I don't We brought Jake on twenty
twenty one, I believe, but

2135
02:19:43.520 --> 02:19:46.959
he's been a huge help with post
production specifically. Oh yeah, all of

2136
02:19:46.079 --> 02:19:50.440
us just love doing this and it's
been a blast. But yeah, as

2137
02:19:50.440 --> 02:19:52.639
always, you can go to our
patreon, Patreon dot com, slash Firescape,

2138
02:19:52.719 --> 02:19:58.120
or just go to firescapecast dot com. Um, we've gotten merch that's

2139
02:19:58.200 --> 02:20:00.639
still running, I believe. If
you want to get some mouse pads,

2140
02:20:00.680 --> 02:20:03.079
if you want to get some mugs, some crop tops, some hoodies,

2141
02:20:03.120 --> 02:20:05.200
some crew necks, a bunch of
different colors, bunch of different styles,

2142
02:20:05.799 --> 02:20:09.559
go to that actually might be fire
Escape cast dot com. Now I got

2143
02:20:09.639 --> 02:20:11.760
to look into this before I start
going another spield, but just look up

2144
02:20:11.799 --> 02:20:16.079
fourth go to fourth Wall and look
up fire Escape Cast and get some merch.

2145
02:20:16.600 --> 02:20:18.959
Um we've got Actually, I think
we're tweeting something tonight about a cool

2146
02:20:20.040 --> 02:20:22.840
story about some merch. Oh yeah, yeah, we got We got a

2147
02:20:22.879 --> 02:20:24.840
lot of people who got some stuff
for the holidays. We love seeing those

2148
02:20:24.879 --> 02:20:28.600
everywhere. Minus the author of bio
I hate that, so please don't buy

2149
02:20:28.639 --> 02:20:37.559
that one. Um yeah tomorrow at
a very sweet tweeters. Yeah, um

2150
02:20:37.959 --> 02:20:43.920
yeah always that stuff's great too.
We will be back in a couple of

2151
02:20:43.959 --> 02:20:46.280
weeks. It is January second,
twenty twenty three today, looking at the

2152
02:20:46.319 --> 02:20:50.200
future, we'll be back on the
sixteenth. Um. Actually, I want

2153
02:20:50.200 --> 02:20:54.159
to talk to you guys about that, maybe potentially delay that episode for in

2154
02:20:54.239 --> 02:20:58.000
embargo we could talk about and so
maybe expect a day late that week.

2155
02:20:58.079 --> 02:21:01.360
We've done a top to me in
twenty twenty three. I don't know you

2156
02:21:01.559 --> 02:21:05.639
shit until next year. Correct,
So we'll be back the week of Monday,

2157
02:21:05.719 --> 02:21:07.879
the sixteenth. Fuh So, keep
an eye out for any news in

2158
02:21:07.920 --> 02:21:11.760
our socials about it maybe being like
twenty four hours later than usual. But

2159
02:21:11.920 --> 02:21:16.399
anyway, it's been a blast,
been a good yearn Yeah, it has

2160
02:21:16.440 --> 02:21:20.239
been a good year. I've enjoyed
been exciting. I've enjoyed having it with

2161
02:21:20.399 --> 02:21:24.120
you. I think this has been
really fun. I look forward to another

2162
02:21:24.200 --> 02:21:28.639
year of fire Escape. Thanks first
with me official full year of fire Escape

2163
02:21:28.639 --> 02:21:33.399
we started. We started it in
April, Yeah, the first official calendar

2164
02:21:33.520 --> 02:21:41.440
year. I moved during that time, got engaged. Our lives unfold,

2165
02:21:41.440 --> 02:21:45.399
which is crazy, and we keep
a lot I'd say we keep a lot

2166
02:21:45.479 --> 02:21:48.799
of private life stuff out of the
public realm, but there's also a lot

2167
02:21:48.840 --> 02:21:52.000
that what we're doing. Yeah,
Yeah, it's been a blast. People

2168
02:21:52.239 --> 02:21:54.719
got to hear me ask you guys
to be in my wedding. So far

2169
02:21:54.799 --> 02:21:56.680
you're still in the wedding. I
don't know though, Okay you sometimes you

2170
02:21:56.760 --> 02:22:00.959
scar, you scate finally, I'm
just kidding. Um, it's been a

2171
02:22:01.040 --> 02:22:03.399
very It's been a good year,
all in Jared, as Jared Harris says

2172
02:22:03.399 --> 02:22:05.879
in Mad Men. All in all, it's been a very good year.

2173
02:22:07.479 --> 02:22:09.639
But it's been a last Dan.
What are you up to the next couple

2174
02:22:09.680 --> 02:22:15.360
of weeks? Buck getting back to
work? Uh yeah, I'm enjoying the

2175
02:22:15.399 --> 02:22:18.040
rest of the break and then getting
back to it. I want to launch

2176
02:22:18.079 --> 02:22:20.159
some new shows on Giant Bomb,
want to do some fun streams. Want

2177
02:22:20.159 --> 02:22:24.360
to chat with you folks? Is
the weeks go on? And uh yeah,

2178
02:22:24.799 --> 02:22:28.079
doing doing the games and the internet
stuff. We're on Twitch, Dan

2179
02:22:28.239 --> 02:22:31.319
Record R Y c K E r
T. That's where you can find me.

2180
02:22:31.760 --> 02:22:35.280
Mary, what about you. I'm
also on Twitch. I've been streaming

2181
02:22:35.600 --> 02:22:39.680
more indies on Mondays, some of
the games that I talked about today,

2182
02:22:41.799 --> 02:22:46.920
and no work discussion until twenty twenty
three. I'm totally off the clock.

2183
02:22:46.000 --> 02:22:50.120
I've deleted Twitter off my phone,
it's dead to me for at least another

2184
02:22:50.200 --> 02:22:54.040
week. Cool sounds good. I'll
be back at Polygon. I'm back at

2185
02:22:54.079 --> 02:23:01.280
Polygon soon. I got a review
going up a couple of weeks. I

2186
02:23:01.399 --> 02:23:05.639
don't get to write reviews as much
just because I'm kind of overseeing that section.

2187
02:23:05.719 --> 02:23:07.280
So it's nice to get back into
the trenches, so to speak.

2188
02:23:07.440 --> 02:23:11.239
So that'll be fun, right,
we're doing that. Yeah, yeah,

2189
02:23:11.559 --> 02:23:15.639
so that'll be up. I'm over
at Polygon and fire Escape here. Those

2190
02:23:15.680 --> 02:23:20.879
are my two things. M anyway, Welcome to twenty twenty three. Thank

2191
02:23:20.920 --> 02:23:22.360
you to everybody who joined. You
could have been anywhere in the world tonight,

2192
02:23:22.719 --> 02:23:26.600
but you chose to hang out with
us. And we'll be back in

2193
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a couple of weeks. Stay tuned
for the week of Monday, January sixteenth,

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twenty twenty three. We'll see everybody
then. Goodbye. Ye sick,

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I got cat hair in my nose.