WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.080 --> 00:00:03.759 I don't want to hear any more. Small talk off that short period. 2 00:00:03.759 --> 00:00:06.040 Take a long walk. My style ain't free because it ain't off top. 3 00:00:06.080 --> 00:00:08.359 I'm Matt, you'll throw coke pit the cough drop. I don't want to 4 00:00:08.359 --> 00:00:10.800 hear it any more. Small talk off that short period, Take a long 5 00:00:10.839 --> 00:00:13.080 walk. My style aint free because it ain't off top. I Matt, 6 00:00:13.119 --> 00:00:16.600 you'll throw coke pitt the cock drop this cush let me too much in your 7 00:00:16.600 --> 00:00:19.920 brain. Turn the mush for fight on your toush. You couldn't handled a 8 00:00:19.920 --> 00:00:22.519 product. I feel shot because I'm just used to it. I just do 9 00:00:22.600 --> 00:00:26.000 it like Nike swish, none of that Bengi bush because I'm top shelf. 10 00:00:26.000 --> 00:00:29.160 I ain't got wealth, but I'm on my grind like park Rails. I'd 11 00:00:29.160 --> 00:00:32.320 sell the shoes right off my two feet, then add one that's a yard 12 00:00:32.399 --> 00:00:35.799 sale. Got dumb bars that'd be harder at den hardburn Yell, take your 13 00:00:35.840 --> 00:00:39.439 pictures elsewhere you want to be tm Z. I want to be VIP with 14 00:00:39.560 --> 00:00:42.240 Panderin. I'm not answering because I don't want to hear it any more. 15 00:00:42.280 --> 00:00:45.000 Small talk off that short period. Take a long walk. My style ain't 16 00:00:45.000 --> 00:00:47.280 free because it ain't off top. I Matt, you'll throw go pit a 17 00:00:47.320 --> 00:00:49.759 cough drop. I don't want to hear it any more. Small talk off 18 00:00:49.799 --> 00:00:52.320 that short period took a long walk. My style ain't free because it ain't 19 00:00:52.359 --> 00:00:55.679 off top. I'm Matt, your throat go pitt coop drops onto that bark 20 00:00:55.719 --> 00:00:59.280 and no bite. That's all right. Not everyone could be the big dog 21 00:00:59.359 --> 00:01:02.719 to take a while kick rocks can't kick me out because I picked locks. 22 00:01:03.159 --> 00:01:06.040 The hearing me knocking, I'll never be coming icky this shit pupping like lip 23 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:10.200 glass can be pissed off. And the host who went the red docks something 24 00:01:10.239 --> 00:01:11.319 like chip honk, give me y'all what you got like it rushing me? 25 00:01:11.400 --> 00:01:15.719 Y'll feeling like Tony Hawk never saw that better not ball running up marathon and 26 00:01:15.799 --> 00:01:19.120 you what' tart is this month? World? You a turrist? Put the 27 00:01:19.120 --> 00:01:21.640 bullet you get in the hoes. I'm a turrist. I don't want to 28 00:01:21.640 --> 00:01:23.359 hear it any more. Small talk off that short period take along walk. 29 00:01:23.400 --> 00:01:26.040 My style a free because it ain't off top. I'm that you'll throw coke 30 00:01:26.120 --> 00:01:29.760 at the cock drop. I don't want to hear any more small talk off 31 00:01:29.799 --> 00:01:32.680 that short periods of along walk my style a free because it ain't off top. 32 00:01:32.719 --> 00:01:53.000 I'm that you'll throw coca the cock dropsy. Good evening, everyone, 33 00:01:53.120 --> 00:01:57.319 and welcome to the Thanksgiving edition of the Times Fan Battle Podcast, brought to 34 00:01:57.319 --> 00:02:02.519 you by the Fan Battle Sports Network, And as always please remember like, 35 00:02:02.719 --> 00:02:08.960 comment, follow, subscribe, and as always visit us on fanbattlesports dot com. 36 00:02:09.039 --> 00:02:14.719 You get your latest news blog posted opinions of all your favorite teams, 37 00:02:15.280 --> 00:02:21.560 and just hope everyone had a happy Thanksgiving. And of course I'm Michael back 38 00:02:21.599 --> 00:02:24.960 here again with Tyler. You want to say hate everyone? Hey everyone, 39 00:02:25.240 --> 00:02:31.199 I am back against you. Guys can quote me on the Titans and group 40 00:02:31.240 --> 00:02:37.240 pages where we all talk crap yep. And speaking of all of us talking 41 00:02:37.280 --> 00:02:45.960 craft, we already gotta go Texans in here tonight. You want to start 42 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:51.800 off with some NFL news, let's do it. Of course. I think 43 00:02:51.840 --> 00:03:00.400 the big news right now is they're banning another defensive tackle technique. So they 44 00:03:00.400 --> 00:03:04.000 want to ban the hip drop tackle, and it sounds like it's probably going 45 00:03:04.080 --> 00:03:10.960 to be going this off season. Yeah. I ever since I ever since 46 00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:16.439 the rumors have gone out about potentially being banned, I've looked at the stats 47 00:03:16.479 --> 00:03:23.360 and apparently it's a hip tackle only happens on average of once a game. 48 00:03:24.479 --> 00:03:30.919 And so again the last time we had a conversation about different roles, I 49 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:36.840 talked about how we were only a few short years away from flag football and 50 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:42.759 my family's Thanksgiving this year, we uh, we were talking about that about 51 00:03:42.840 --> 00:03:49.719 the potential hip hip tackle being banned, and one of my uncles proceeded to 52 00:03:49.759 --> 00:03:57.840 say that we were only about five years away from tackle football. At what 53 00:03:57.919 --> 00:04:01.439 point in time do we do we just ban every kind of tackle? You 54 00:04:01.479 --> 00:04:06.479 know? That's That's where I'm getting at. Is this it just first, 55 00:04:06.520 --> 00:04:10.919 it's the you know, I don't, I don't know. It just blows 56 00:04:10.919 --> 00:04:15.919 my mind. Yeah, because to me, because I played cornerback, so 57 00:04:15.519 --> 00:04:20.519 like I've chased guys down from behind and had to tackle them. And so 58 00:04:20.879 --> 00:04:25.399 you can't go high because you're going to hit the head, the face mask 59 00:04:25.560 --> 00:04:29.279 or get a horse collar mm hmm. Then you have to come down below 60 00:04:29.319 --> 00:04:33.360 the numbers basically when you catch someone from behind. So if you can't grab 61 00:04:33.439 --> 00:04:38.079 him and go dead weight, then how do you tackle him because otherwise all 62 00:04:38.120 --> 00:04:42.480 you're going to be your only other optimists to push him forward like they're making 63 00:04:42.480 --> 00:04:45.800 it so that once a guy gets past you, it's a touchdown, Like, 64 00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:50.680 how do you get back upon it? Yeah? I I foresee the 65 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:59.000 NFLPA really pushing back on this, I hope so, yeah, because they 66 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:04.519 it all comes from from Andrew's injury in that Bengals and Ravens game, because 67 00:05:04.560 --> 00:05:10.240 he got injured on this, but he just got injured because as the hip 68 00:05:10.279 --> 00:05:15.439 tackle was happening, then his ankle got rolled up on. So I mean, 69 00:05:15.519 --> 00:05:19.120 how many offensive linemen per year get their ankles rolled up on and we've 70 00:05:19.199 --> 00:05:24.759 never addressed anything to protect only in that instance? Cool. I think it's 71 00:05:24.839 --> 00:05:28.959 because in the NFL they don't really get the crap about offensive lineman injuries. 72 00:05:29.360 --> 00:05:33.839 They care about big name weapons and cornerbacks. That's all they care about. 73 00:05:35.279 --> 00:05:39.680 I agree, you can't score points, then you don't get attention basically. 74 00:05:40.920 --> 00:05:45.800 I mean, they had talked about banning it mildly after the Tony Pollard injury 75 00:05:45.800 --> 00:05:50.639 in the playoffs last year, but it just seems it just seems like more 76 00:05:50.839 --> 00:05:57.199 and more recently is that it's becoming harder to be a defensive player and easier 77 00:05:57.240 --> 00:06:00.639 to become an offensive player. Yeah. I think that's the you know, 78 00:06:00.800 --> 00:06:05.240 points sell advertising so it's just a way to get points higher up make it 79 00:06:05.279 --> 00:06:12.120 harder to tackle someone. To me, this is akin to the you're landing 80 00:06:12.160 --> 00:06:15.439 with too much weight on the quarterback rule. Like, to me, both 81 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:18.839 of those are just terrible rules. That you're a three hundred pounds defensive tackle 82 00:06:19.519 --> 00:06:24.959 and you're falling forward tackling the quarterback, Like, where else are you going 83 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:28.160 to land besides on top of them? Yeah, I don't, I don't 84 00:06:28.199 --> 00:06:30.480 know. It's a dumb role. I mean, it's a dumb it's a 85 00:06:30.519 --> 00:06:36.040 dumb thing that they are going to potentially ban it. Yeah, I agree, 86 00:06:36.079 --> 00:06:40.720 it's but I think the hammer is going to come down on it one 87 00:06:40.720 --> 00:06:45.759 way or another. Hopefully the nfl PA can can hold them off on it. 88 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:51.879 But moving on to the big injury news, Joe Burrow to season ending 89 00:06:51.920 --> 00:07:00.240 IR. Two ending irs in four years for him, that's I mean, 90 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:03.480 it's really sad. I mean, I definitely don't want to see anybody go 91 00:07:03.720 --> 00:07:10.879 on a season ending IR for any team. You know, that definitely sucks. 92 00:07:11.720 --> 00:07:17.959 However, it begs the question is he's truly worth fifty million dollars if 93 00:07:18.360 --> 00:07:25.120 he's been on season ending IR twice in four years? Yeah? Yeah, 94 00:07:25.160 --> 00:07:29.920 And in his first two years, he had terrible offensive lines. Last year 95 00:07:29.959 --> 00:07:32.639 they was rated as one of the best offensive line units in the league. 96 00:07:33.199 --> 00:07:36.639 This year, they haven't been elite, but they ain't been terrible. I 97 00:07:36.639 --> 00:07:42.759 think they're like middle with a pack, maybe like the fourteenth fifteenth as far 98 00:07:42.800 --> 00:07:46.800 as giving up sacks and hits on the quarterback. So it ain't like he's 99 00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:50.920 out there getting destroyed every game. Yeah, I mean, this one had 100 00:07:50.959 --> 00:08:00.759 to do with a hand, the hand ligament injury against the Ravens. I 101 00:08:00.759 --> 00:08:03.839 mean, it happens. I mean, it's really sad, and you know, 102 00:08:03.079 --> 00:08:07.160 obviously I hope that he, you know, recovers, Okay, but 103 00:08:09.160 --> 00:08:13.360 again, I just blows my mind that we work, but the Bengals are 104 00:08:13.360 --> 00:08:16.199 going to pay someone fifty million dollars who's not even going to finish the season. 105 00:08:16.839 --> 00:08:20.600 I also seen though, that a lot of people over the past couple 106 00:08:20.639 --> 00:08:28.399 of years have been saying that Lamar Jackson is injury prone, when Joe Burrow 107 00:08:28.439 --> 00:08:33.919 will have missed more games than Lamar Jackson has since they've been in the NFL. 108 00:08:35.399 --> 00:08:39.320 So who do you think is more injury from then? Yeah, I 109 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:45.480 think it's Lamar. He goes out and misses a game, maybe two games, 110 00:08:45.559 --> 00:08:48.240 but Burrow, once he goes out, it's the rest of the season 111 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:52.000 he's missing. Yeah, And so it's like, do you want a guy 112 00:08:52.080 --> 00:08:56.200 with a nag an injury that's going to miss a game or two, or 113 00:08:56.919 --> 00:09:00.519 a guy that's going to be there for the whole season, him for three 114 00:09:00.600 --> 00:09:03.279 years, but then he's going to get one injury and miss ten games. 115 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:11.200 Yeah, Yeah, it's it's uh. I mean, I mean I was 116 00:09:11.240 --> 00:09:18.200 there at the Titans and Colts game when when Ar went down, so and 117 00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:22.480 and he's done for the remainder. He's been done since for the remainder of 118 00:09:22.519 --> 00:09:28.360 the season since that game. So hopefully hopefully he does better and hopefully he's 119 00:09:28.559 --> 00:09:33.799 his hand heels so that he can go back to playing football. Yeah, 120 00:09:33.799 --> 00:09:37.759 I hope so, because that's a that's a massive hit, not just for 121 00:09:37.840 --> 00:09:39.559 the Bengals, that's a start, like one of the main stars of the 122 00:09:39.639 --> 00:09:48.200 league. Yeah this side. Speaking of the Colts, they surprised I think 123 00:09:48.200 --> 00:09:54.080 a lot of people releasing on Shaq Leonard, and then I was most surprised 124 00:09:54.159 --> 00:09:58.200 no one picked him up, especially like one of these playoff contending teams that 125 00:09:58.320 --> 00:10:03.440 need some backer help right now, I really thought somebody would claim him off 126 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:09.080 waivers. So what I can say is is that the rumors here in Indianapolis, 127 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:15.080 because I live about thirty minutes outside of Indie, was that Shack Leonard 128 00:10:15.440 --> 00:10:22.120 was being very toxic in the locker room and some of his press conferences where 129 00:10:22.159 --> 00:10:28.679 he called out coaching and management led to him being released. Obviously, I 130 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:31.559 doubt that we'll ever get the you know, true meaning behind it, but 131 00:10:31.639 --> 00:10:37.159 that was rumored. As it relates to why he hasn't been picked up, 132 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:41.799 I'm not shocked. And here's why. Leonard just guaranteed twenty million dollars from 133 00:10:41.799 --> 00:10:48.960 the Colts up until the twenty twenty seventh season, so he's going to be 134 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:54.600 bringing in a big amount of change, and if a team claimed him off 135 00:10:54.639 --> 00:11:00.840 waivers, he would count to about six and a half million against their cap. 136 00:11:01.559 --> 00:11:05.639 Where he's if we wait, if anybody, any team waits to let 137 00:11:05.720 --> 00:11:11.000 him clear the waivers, they could get him for much less. So from 138 00:11:11.039 --> 00:11:16.679 a financial standpoint, I think it is extraordinarily a smart idea to let him 139 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:24.840 do that, because not many teams have six million dollars that they can pick 140 00:11:24.919 --> 00:11:28.200 up a big name at this moment. Last time I had read though the 141 00:11:28.279 --> 00:11:37.639 Broncos, Eagles, and Cowboys were the front runners to land him. It's 142 00:11:37.679 --> 00:11:43.200 all the Eagles need more store power. True, but Shack has been so 143 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:50.279 injury prone these past you know, two three seasons. So if we're talking 144 00:11:50.320 --> 00:11:54.639 about prime Shaq Leonard before he hit all these massive injuries, I'm sure. 145 00:11:56.639 --> 00:12:01.200 But he's missed quite a few games. So I'm not intirely shocked. Yeah, 146 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:05.960 because i know, like what two seasons ago, they was talking about 147 00:12:05.039 --> 00:12:09.559 him for Defensive Player of the Year and now we are a year and a 148 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:13.200 half later and he's sitting on the streets without a team to play for. 149 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:18.480 Yeah, and he's only twenty eight, so he's still got some prime years 150 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:22.639 left in him. Well, I think he needs to go to a team 151 00:12:22.799 --> 00:12:28.519 where he's not gonna have to make be the one to make big plays like 152 00:12:28.600 --> 00:12:35.320 he was for the Colts for multiple years. Now the Colts this year is 153 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:39.639 a ta bit different. But I think that if he were to go to 154 00:12:41.080 --> 00:12:45.960 the Eagles or Cowboys, I think that that would be better for him. 155 00:12:46.360 --> 00:12:50.200 I don't I'm not quite sure how much playing time he would get. Now 156 00:12:50.240 --> 00:12:56.519 if he went to the Broncos, that would be scary. That is a 157 00:12:56.559 --> 00:13:01.840 team that is in desperate need of defense. Getting someone to the caliber of 158 00:13:01.879 --> 00:13:05.279 Shaq leintern that could be a team. I mean, we've already seen the 159 00:13:05.320 --> 00:13:09.480 Broncos beat the Chiefs once. I mean they're they're coming from the Chiefs. 160 00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:16.240 They if they add him, they could be they could potentially win that division. 161 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:22.759 Yeah, and they beat the Chiefs by having like five or six turnovers. 162 00:13:22.039 --> 00:13:28.480 And that's Shaq Leonard's game is getting those interceptions and fumbles. So anything 163 00:13:28.600 --> 00:13:33.120 can happen. I would love to see him to come to the Titans, 164 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:37.240 obviously, because we need some help. You know, we need anything right 165 00:13:37.279 --> 00:13:43.879 now, and which was evident in Jacksonville. So might as well go ahead 166 00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:50.960 and talk about what happened down there. What do you think went wrong from 167 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:54.759 the start? We just what they was up twenty seven to zero before we 168 00:13:54.799 --> 00:14:00.200 got into the game, or twenty nine to zero something like that. So 169 00:14:00.519 --> 00:14:11.440 I I think the main thing that went wrong gems from very poor offensive line 170 00:14:11.440 --> 00:14:24.759 play, poor protection for for Levis, but also some very very poor offensive 171 00:14:24.799 --> 00:14:31.399 calls. Yeah, as soon as we put in Jalen Duncan, which I 172 00:14:31.440 --> 00:14:37.080 know he's on our list to talk about, miraculously we put up fourteen fourteen 173 00:14:37.120 --> 00:14:41.440 points when he put him in as left tackle and he did not allow a 174 00:14:41.519 --> 00:14:52.559 single pressure. So the offensive line has to be better and and so does 175 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:58.480 our secondary. Calvin Ridley tore us up. I have Calvin Redley on my 176 00:14:58.639 --> 00:15:05.360 Fantasy A team, and I want very had a massive lead, massive went 177 00:15:05.399 --> 00:15:11.200 over my previous team last week, so I know how how bad Calvin Ridley 178 00:15:11.360 --> 00:15:13.000 was to the Titans. I mean, I think he had two touchdowns on 179 00:15:13.080 --> 00:15:20.879 US, one receiving, one one rushing. Oh. I've seen a lot 180 00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:24.320 of people say that we have a lot of needs, which we do, 181 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:31.279 but if we want to win games in our current division where we have the 182 00:15:31.360 --> 00:15:37.000 younger quarterbacks, we've got to work on the secondary because I mean we've seen 183 00:15:37.240 --> 00:15:43.279 we've seen Will Levis make plays this season, but he has to have people 184 00:15:43.320 --> 00:15:48.080 around him to help support him. I'm not saying he needs weapons, which 185 00:15:48.120 --> 00:15:52.320 everyone does, but he just needs a half decent supporting cast. And right 186 00:15:52.360 --> 00:16:00.759 now that offensive line is not supporting him. Brewery, you know, we 187 00:16:00.840 --> 00:16:03.480 had the bad snap that was fumbled, and there was three or four more 188 00:16:03.559 --> 00:16:07.600 that could have been fumbled in that game, and Levis was just able to 189 00:16:07.639 --> 00:16:14.399 get him in his hands and I marked it down as a complete team loss. 190 00:16:14.399 --> 00:16:18.000 We always talk about team wins, but you got the O line with 191 00:16:18.120 --> 00:16:22.159 the bad snap turning it over. Special teams had it turned over. We 192 00:16:22.279 --> 00:16:26.159 had shape punts. We couldn't get off the field on defense to save our 193 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:30.320 lives. It's like, the only bright spot really that I had in the 194 00:16:30.360 --> 00:16:33.960 game was Levis, and he didn't. He had his most efficient game, 195 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:41.639 but he just didn't have opportunities because the line couldn't protect for him. Yeah, 196 00:16:41.840 --> 00:16:45.120 I seen that he had a really good passer rating, which they say 197 00:16:45.279 --> 00:16:52.759 for which I've read that for losses as sizable as our West the Jacksonville, 198 00:16:52.799 --> 00:16:59.080 you typically don't see a quarterback have a passer rating that he did, which 199 00:16:59.159 --> 00:17:03.759 tells you, in my opinion, that I think Will Levis is going to 200 00:17:03.799 --> 00:17:07.480 be a good football player for this team, which is a bright spot. 201 00:17:08.799 --> 00:17:15.880 But we need to give him the players to go out there and win us 202 00:17:15.119 --> 00:17:22.920 games and help us win games and bring a championship. I don't foresee us 203 00:17:22.079 --> 00:17:30.880 getting a good championship, getting a championship before this new stadium opens, unless 204 00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:37.960 we have a massive or really good draft this upcoming season or in the next 205 00:17:37.960 --> 00:17:42.319 few seasons, like what the Texans just did this past offseason. Yeah, 206 00:17:42.359 --> 00:17:48.039 and they talk about, you know, for run teams, for especially a 207 00:17:48.200 --> 00:17:52.000 Rabel coach team, the way we play football, the two things that will 208 00:17:52.079 --> 00:17:57.680 kill you or turnovers and holding penalties on offense, because we want to run 209 00:17:57.720 --> 00:18:02.720 the ball, and you can't run the ball if you're turning it over or 210 00:18:02.759 --> 00:18:07.839 if it's first and twenty, first and thirty and that's all. We had 211 00:18:07.319 --> 00:18:12.559 a couple of bad offensive holes. We also, it was thirteen zero at 212 00:18:12.599 --> 00:18:19.599 halftime, and all thirteen points was scored on drives where the Titans had defensive 213 00:18:19.599 --> 00:18:23.319 penalties on third down that kept the drive all up, so it could have 214 00:18:23.400 --> 00:18:29.720 easily been zero zero. Then they scored fourteen points off turnovers. I mean, 215 00:18:29.720 --> 00:18:33.359 if we protect the ball and just play discipline, don't get penalties, 216 00:18:33.680 --> 00:18:37.640 it's a totally different game. But this team just can't seem to get out 217 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:41.480 of its own way in those areas. Yeah, I mean, I think 218 00:18:41.519 --> 00:18:45.440 it's possible that, I mean, it's definitely still possible that we can still 219 00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:48.799 win this division. Obviously we would need some help, ye, No, 220 00:18:48.799 --> 00:18:59.359 a lot of help. However, we played Jacksonville the final week of the 221 00:18:59.400 --> 00:19:03.000 season. I think so we're gonna they have to come to us. You 222 00:19:03.039 --> 00:19:07.839 know, it's not going to be eighty degrees and perfect weather for them. 223 00:19:07.000 --> 00:19:11.920 You know, they're gonna have to come and play in some really cold weather. 224 00:19:11.079 --> 00:19:15.400 So my hope is is that that will give us the edge the next 225 00:19:15.400 --> 00:19:22.759 time we play them. However, in order for us to really even compete 226 00:19:23.480 --> 00:19:30.480 or to prevent Levis from you know, sustaining massive injuries and then and then 227 00:19:30.599 --> 00:19:34.960 leaves and retires from the team like Andrew Luckton, we've got to give him 228 00:19:34.960 --> 00:19:41.160 some good players. Yeah, And we may be able to do that this 229 00:19:41.240 --> 00:19:47.279 week because for the fourth time in four weeks, we have a new left 230 00:19:47.279 --> 00:19:52.960 tackle start. So it's going to be the rookie Jalen Duncan this week. 231 00:19:53.079 --> 00:19:59.599 So you think you have any hope for him considering that he's basically the fourth 232 00:19:59.599 --> 00:20:07.319 string the team, Well, I think all Titans fans can say anybody would 233 00:20:07.359 --> 00:20:15.920 be better than Dillard at left tackle. Got dealer, That is true. 234 00:20:15.079 --> 00:20:19.240 We we hate we you know, we've been there for some really bad left 235 00:20:19.279 --> 00:20:25.599 tackle plays players over the past couple past couple of seasons. We definitely, 236 00:20:25.880 --> 00:20:29.039 we definitely need to work on that. I mean, from what I've seen 237 00:20:29.079 --> 00:20:33.000 from Jalen Duncan in the in the Jags game, I was really impressed. 238 00:20:34.799 --> 00:20:41.880 The Panthers are going to be without one of their star pass rushers, which 239 00:20:41.880 --> 00:20:47.319 will be good. But I'm not expecting him to go out there and play 240 00:20:47.400 --> 00:20:53.839 all pro this game. But going up against the worst team in the league 241 00:20:53.880 --> 00:21:02.279 and the Panthers, my hope is that he will that he'll be able to 242 00:21:02.400 --> 00:21:07.119 keep leve Us upright. If he can keep let Us upright, you're already 243 00:21:07.119 --> 00:21:10.440 better than any left tackle we've had in that position over the past couple of 244 00:21:10.480 --> 00:21:18.240 seasons. Yeah, with we, he's going to be making his first start 245 00:21:18.279 --> 00:21:21.519 as a rookie and then he's going to be standing beside of a rookie left 246 00:21:21.559 --> 00:21:25.799 guard. If I'm the Panthers, I'm just going to line up a blitz 247 00:21:25.839 --> 00:21:32.039 to that side until they figure out how to stop it. I mean, 248 00:21:32.839 --> 00:21:40.440 a fair, fair assessment. However, who are you going to have try 249 00:21:40.480 --> 00:21:45.400 to pressure will leve Us from the Panthers because they don't really have any good 250 00:21:45.440 --> 00:21:51.200 pass rushers besides one of their weaknesses for sure. Yeah, Now, if 251 00:21:51.240 --> 00:21:55.359 we were talking about the Steelers, that'd be a different that'd be a different 252 00:21:55.400 --> 00:22:00.720 conversation. Yeah. And they're also they're out the best secondary either. So 253 00:22:00.799 --> 00:22:04.039 if they do blitz and we do pick it up, then Levis is going 254 00:22:04.119 --> 00:22:07.680 to have plenty of time to make a decision and find the open guy, 255 00:22:07.759 --> 00:22:15.359 which is probably going to be Hopkins in this secondary. Yeah, yeah, 256 00:22:15.920 --> 00:22:18.839 that's my hope. I want Hopkins to have another three TD game. I 257 00:22:18.839 --> 00:22:26.759 would love to see that happen. We won't have much competition in past kitchen 258 00:22:26.880 --> 00:22:30.920 with Burkes out again, So I mean it's him and n Wi out there 259 00:22:30.960 --> 00:22:33.319 again. I guess, wait, who's Burkes again? I haven't seen him 260 00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:42.480 really do anything on the fielding season. Yes, then quite a while A 261 00:22:42.680 --> 00:22:48.160 J. Brown according to John Robinson, I guess, yeah, Well AJ 262 00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:52.559 Brown's out there playing All Pro for the Eagles. We got trailing Burkes who 263 00:22:52.599 --> 00:22:59.640 can't stop getting injured. Yeah, so I'm I mean, at this point, 264 00:22:59.680 --> 00:23:02.880 like you Sai said, if he even made it to game day at 265 00:23:02.880 --> 00:23:06.480 some point, that would be a pleasant surprise. I don't feel like we 266 00:23:06.519 --> 00:23:10.519 can count on him for anything, like not even catching it. Just to 267 00:23:10.519 --> 00:23:15.480 see him that a jersey on would be a surprise. Yeah, that's true, 268 00:23:18.279 --> 00:23:22.119 that is true. And some I was thinking about, like do the 269 00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:26.000 Titans. At what point do they decide enough is enough and he's not worth 270 00:23:26.000 --> 00:23:29.880 a roster spot. Like the rookie contract is guaranteed, so it's going to 271 00:23:29.880 --> 00:23:33.279 cost him the money either way. But at some point do they think about 272 00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:38.359 just moving on and looking for another number two wide receiver. I would be 273 00:23:38.400 --> 00:23:45.440 shocked if they don't end the off season, especially with the wide variety of 274 00:23:45.720 --> 00:23:49.079 free agent wide receivers that are supposed to hit the market this free agency. 275 00:23:49.799 --> 00:23:53.440 I would be shocked if they don't at least make an attempt, And with 276 00:23:53.599 --> 00:23:59.079 the Titans right now having the most cap space going into the off season, 277 00:23:59.480 --> 00:24:07.440 I mean it's very likely I would even suggest training him. But then again, 278 00:24:07.839 --> 00:24:11.759 who's gonna trade for him? Yeah, you're not gonna get nothing for 279 00:24:11.920 --> 00:24:15.799 him, and I mean nothing, Even a seventh rounder would be better than 280 00:24:15.839 --> 00:24:19.319 what we'd get by Cutney. I guess. I mean you could. We 281 00:24:19.359 --> 00:24:23.240 could trade him to the Panthers in the off season. They need they need 282 00:24:23.279 --> 00:24:27.799 some wide receiver help. Yeah, they're kind of like us. They just 283 00:24:27.880 --> 00:24:34.880 have Adam Feeling and nobody behind him. So they just signed an aging wide 284 00:24:34.920 --> 00:24:42.880 receiver from another team in the off season. Yeah, Uh, what about 285 00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:48.720 everyone's talking about Rabel's job. You got one report saying he's gonna get traded 286 00:24:48.759 --> 00:24:53.079 to the Patriots, then a conflicting report that he's the long term solution in 287 00:24:53.160 --> 00:24:56.839 Nashville. He ain't gonna know where the fans are. They don't even want 288 00:24:56.839 --> 00:25:02.240 to trade him. The fans are just saying firing. Right. You think 289 00:25:02.720 --> 00:25:06.799 that Rabel's actually on the hot seat right now or what do you think would 290 00:25:06.839 --> 00:25:10.400 have to happen for him to be on the hot seat. So I do 291 00:25:10.480 --> 00:25:15.319 think he is on the hot seat. I would be shocked if we finished 292 00:25:15.319 --> 00:25:23.440 the season three and fourteen and he's still the head coach of the Tennessee Titans, 293 00:25:26.160 --> 00:25:34.839 because I think we have the defensive line and a rookie quarterback and a 294 00:25:36.559 --> 00:25:41.160 top wide receiver, long standing wide receiver that can get us more than three 295 00:25:41.200 --> 00:25:45.279 wins. I don't think he gets traded to the Patriots. I just think 296 00:25:45.319 --> 00:25:55.039 that that's a bunch of smoke. This is my view. So much about 297 00:25:55.119 --> 00:26:03.400 being a head coach is not just about game day and and the in the 298 00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:07.480 games that you go through. It's the decisions that you make, whether or 299 00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:12.240 not you should go for it on fourth down, who you draft, who 300 00:26:12.279 --> 00:26:18.359 you get up in free agency or in Rabel's case, the people that you 301 00:26:18.519 --> 00:26:30.039 hire for your team. The offensive coordinator has been spotty. Obviously, I 302 00:26:30.279 --> 00:26:34.359 don't expect him to, you know, be phenomenal. It's his first season 303 00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:37.519 as the offensive coordinator for US, so there's some things that you know, 304 00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:44.480 you need to get used to. Defensive coordinator has been spotty, but the 305 00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:49.519 offensive line coach, who I read the other day has Like when we got 306 00:26:49.599 --> 00:26:53.880 him, I think from college and he had like eleven ones. What do 307 00:26:53.880 --> 00:26:59.519 you say he's from like Wagner University or something like that, He had like 308 00:26:59.640 --> 00:27:04.680 eleven wins in his collegiate career. That just blows my mind, Like why 309 00:27:04.680 --> 00:27:10.640 would we hire him to be our offensive line coach? I just think that 310 00:27:10.920 --> 00:27:17.960 Rabel is really bad. Ever since, the some of our outside of the 311 00:27:17.960 --> 00:27:22.119 offensive coordinators, the two offensive coordinators that we that have been hired to go 312 00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:29.519 be head coaches elsewhere. Outside of those two offensive coordinator has been a huge 313 00:27:29.559 --> 00:27:36.279 problem for US. Dean P's was a phenomenal DC for US. Shane Bowen 314 00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:41.000 will never amount to that. I think that Rabel, if Rabel is going 315 00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:47.079 to get fired, he should be fired alone on his poor hiring ability. 316 00:27:47.240 --> 00:27:52.440 For coordinators and coaches for this team because they are not helping us, they 317 00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:57.240 are hurting us. Yeah, I agree, Like in the last few years, 318 00:27:57.480 --> 00:28:00.759 and you know, content spans are always like, you know, we're 319 00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:04.759 getting disrespected, we never get attention and all that. And the reason why 320 00:28:04.839 --> 00:28:10.000 is because our roster has never been that great the last few years, and 321 00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:15.000 no one expects much all of us and Rabel had like we got these winning 322 00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:21.440 seasons with subpar rosters because he was able to coach us to not get these 323 00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:25.720 penalties, not get these turnovers. And this year it just hasn't worked that 324 00:28:25.799 --> 00:28:30.240 way. And so when you're given him all the accolades for you know, 325 00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:33.680 we're the least penalized team in the league and all that, well, now 326 00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:37.640 when we're one of the top penalized teams in the league and we are turning 327 00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:41.720 the ball over, like, that's got to fall back on his shoulders as 328 00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:47.559 well. But I read somewhere that John Robinson, you know, we had 329 00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:52.079 a ten point lead in the AFC Championship game against the Chiefs, and from 330 00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:57.960 that ten point lead to his firing, John Robinson had drafted twenty four players 331 00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:03.720 and all of those twenty four players five of them had nine or more starts 332 00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:08.119 in their career, like everyone he drafted was just a bus And then the 333 00:29:08.119 --> 00:29:12.480 ones that have nine or more starts are trailing Burks who hasn't done anything, 334 00:29:14.440 --> 00:29:18.599 Christian Fulton, who is only starting because we don't have another corner behind him, 335 00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:25.039 and I'm trying to think of the other names. But yeah, like 336 00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:30.960 everyone he drafted, no one's really had an impact, and some he's not 337 00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:36.000 had the roster also, like it's not just on him, I think like 338 00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:41.000 he's also not had the players. And so that's why I think, like 339 00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:44.519 you said, if we finished with three wins, I don't expect him back 340 00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:48.680 next year. But if we get I think if we get the six wins, 341 00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:53.240 that guarantees him his twenty four job here. I could see that. 342 00:29:55.799 --> 00:30:02.960 And again I wasn't expecting us going into this season being super Bowl contenders. 343 00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:07.680 But with us having as much cap space as we do going into this offseason 344 00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:15.240 and having the quarterback of the future or so we believe, I mean, 345 00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:22.680 we we can definitely get there. But I think the first thing that needs 346 00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:27.240 to happen is I think we need to re sign Derrick Henry. Derrick Henry 347 00:30:27.319 --> 00:30:33.920 is second in the league and rushing yards, and we have a horrible offensive 348 00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:41.359 line, and that should tell you how how good of a player he is. 349 00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:51.240 I really think in order to help will leve Us succeed, we need 350 00:30:51.279 --> 00:30:55.039 Derek Henry on this team. What are your thoughts? Yeah? I agree, 351 00:30:55.839 --> 00:31:00.400 And I've been a supporter of extended Derek Henry, even if it's for 352 00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:07.599 one year, just because after this year, as long as he finishes anywhere 353 00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:11.519 close to one thousand, then he'll be less than a thousand yards away from 354 00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:17.440 the all time rushing record for the Titans. So I think that you bring 355 00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:21.400 him back next year, if only just to getting that record, so that 356 00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:26.480 it's then gonna be him and Eddie George up there, how nostalgic up? 357 00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:33.359 Hell? Yeah? Yeah, give the fans something to cheer for in all 358 00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:38.079 of this gloom that we have on this football team. You know I would 359 00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:47.839 be okay with that. Yeah. I've never been a fan of his coordinator, 360 00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:51.599 Hirings either, because he's never, like I was telling him on the 361 00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:57.119 Monday Night podcast, he's never went outside of the organization to interview for a 362 00:31:57.160 --> 00:32:04.000 coordinator. It's always one of his coaching friends that get the position. And 363 00:32:04.079 --> 00:32:07.559 so I think even if we get six wins and he comes back next year, 364 00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:12.759 I think that that Rebel's on the hot seat next year, that it's 365 00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:17.119 expected that we make the playoffs, and with his job being on the line, 366 00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:22.759 it will be interesting to see does Shane Bowen keep his position or does 367 00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:29.119 Rebel go outside the organization and try to find somebody that's gonna, you know, 368 00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:36.160 make because we got Simmons Landry Key disease like we got We've bought players 369 00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:42.039 in the front seven and Bowen can't get anything out of them. So here's 370 00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:47.799 my question to you. If Vrabel comes back next season with six wins, 371 00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:57.119 who do we fire in the coaching pool for the Titans. The first move 372 00:32:57.359 --> 00:33:02.079 I would make, I'm either can I shamee Bowen or the DV coach? 373 00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:07.279 And I know it's going to be hard for Verrabel to fire that DV coach 374 00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:13.599 because he just now hired him, and he stole him away from Ohio State, 375 00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:17.400 which is where Rabel went to college and everything, and so it's one 376 00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:22.200 of those guys that he looks at as a personal friend and a Rabel guy 377 00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:25.519 and everything. So I think he's going to have trouble moving on from him. 378 00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:30.279 But I mean, if your job's on the line and it's you know, 379 00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:34.559 either you or your friend's going to get fired, and you think your 380 00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:37.720 friend is the one that ain't coaching up the unit he's supposed to be coaching 381 00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:45.039 up, because it's hard to argue that our defensive back coach is doing a 382 00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:52.079 great job. So fair, very fair point. Yeah, who you think, 383 00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:57.000 like, who would you fire? If you're in Brabel's position on that. 384 00:33:58.359 --> 00:34:06.160 If it were me, I'd fire both of my coordinators if we if 385 00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:10.039 we have another losing season, I would first fire Bowen. Bowen would be 386 00:34:10.119 --> 00:34:14.960 number one because he would have been on the staff for two years as a 387 00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:20.960 coordinator. He'd be the first one. But I would also fire the offensive 388 00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:23.119 coordinator. I would fire both of them. I would go through an I'd 389 00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:27.400 clean house. If you want me to be honest with you, Yeah, 390 00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:30.719 and see. And I was critical of Tim Kelly getting hiring. I thought 391 00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:37.880 that was a terrible hiring as an offensive coordinator. The one reason ON would 392 00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:43.639 to fire him is because when you hired him, you knew that his position 393 00:34:44.039 --> 00:34:50.679 or his scheme is he likes to get guys deep and a mobile quarterback, 394 00:34:51.320 --> 00:34:55.199 and you gave him Tannehill and a terrible offensive line, so there's no chance 395 00:34:55.360 --> 00:35:00.239 for a mobile quarterback. There's no chance for anyone to get deep because it's 396 00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:04.599 just a sack every other play. Yeah, so he really hasn't had a 397 00:35:04.679 --> 00:35:09.800 chance to truly install his yet. I think Wavis gives him that chance though. 398 00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:15.480 I think Weavis has plenty mobile enough to give him that opportunity. Yeah, 399 00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:22.079 I agree. I agree with us saying that, who do you think 400 00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:25.679 the key to the game is? Predictions? What do you think is gonna 401 00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:35.960 want to happen tomorrow? Well, if we lose to the worst team in 402 00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:42.400 the NFL, I would I would if if if I were Amy Adams and 403 00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:46.159 Amy i'ms drunk and my team that I own loses to the worst team in 404 00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:51.159 the NFL. First thing I'm doing is I'm picking up the phone and saying, 405 00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:53.360 Hi, this is Amy Adams drunk. Hey, is is this Mike 406 00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:59.000 Rabel? Hey? Since you just made my team lose, don't plan on 407 00:35:59.039 --> 00:36:04.719 taking the team jet from Carolina back to Nashville. Oh yeah, you're getting 408 00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:10.480 fired? Thank you for everything. Bye bye. So my expectation is is 409 00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:15.400 that we do win. All of our wins this season have been at home, 410 00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:27.480 and I don't foresee Young having, you know, this phenomenal game against 411 00:36:27.559 --> 00:36:34.440 us. They also have a pretty poor offensive line. They struggle with protection 412 00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:40.840 for Young, So I would imagine that either Simmons or Landry, if not 413 00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:45.199 both, have a phenomenal game this game. And I would also like to 414 00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:55.400 see Derek Henry go off this game. So my prediction is Titans win thirty 415 00:36:55.519 --> 00:37:06.840 one to fourteens for two touchdowns. I've seen a lot of predictions for us 416 00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:14.920 to go out there and blow out the Panthers, but I just I've not 417 00:37:15.159 --> 00:37:20.920 been able to muster up enough faith in them to predict a blowout against anyone. 418 00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:25.000 I was talking to someone earlier and I told them that if the Titans 419 00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:31.400 were going to play the losers of the two to eight Football Championship for Tennessee, 420 00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:37.360 then I would still have my questions about this offensive line holding up. 421 00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:45.199 So I think that Levis Is is going to be the savior of the game. 422 00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:49.639 I do think that we win the game, But on Monday night I 423 00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:53.519 predicted a fourteen thirteen Titans win, and I think I'm going to stand by 424 00:37:53.599 --> 00:37:57.599 that. It's going to be just to struggle all the way to the end, 425 00:37:57.639 --> 00:38:01.280 even though we're playing the worst team in football fourteen to thirteen. That's 426 00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:13.639 like a terrible game to watch. Uh. I mean I wouldn't be mad 427 00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:17.599 if we lost, because then Carolina would the Bears' number one pick would go 428 00:38:17.719 --> 00:38:22.679 up, and likely are we would you know, slide back. I mean, 429 00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:27.400 I wouldn't be mad if we got Marvin Harrison Junior in the draft. 430 00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:32.000 I think that that would phenomenally help us team. But I doubt that he'll 431 00:38:32.039 --> 00:38:37.960 be on the draft board when we go to pick. Yeah. It's the 432 00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:43.679 thing. I think if we win six games, I think he's not on 433 00:38:43.719 --> 00:38:46.280 the draft board. I think if we win four games, I think he 434 00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:51.639 may be on the draft board for us. Yeah, if he's there, 435 00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:57.599 I think I think we have to take you, even though you know we've 436 00:38:57.599 --> 00:39:00.519 got, like you said, the most money in three agent and see this 437 00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:05.360 year and I mean you can find you a tackle and free agency or find 438 00:39:05.400 --> 00:39:10.920 you a trade for a tackle. Yeah. So we already let one generational 439 00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:15.280 talent wide receiver go to the Eagles, like we can't let another one slip 440 00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:25.400 by. That is true, That is I think that'll do it for us 441 00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:29.920 this evening. 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