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We're back with another edition of the
Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Emily Dashinski,

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culture editor here at the Federalist.
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download your podcasts as well. We're
joined today by Congresswoman Mary Miller, who

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represents the fifteenth district of Illinois,
was elected back in twenty twenty one.

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Congresswoman Miller, thank you so much
for joining us. Well, thank you

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for having me. It's a privilege
and I appreciate the work you're all doing

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to get information out to the public. You know, whoever controls information controls

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the people. That is so true. Now, I'm really curious about your

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background. First, your remember of
the Freedom Caucus, and we'll get into

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that a little bit, but tell
us about why you decided to run for

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Congress. My understanding is that you've
been running a grain and a cattle farm

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with your husband. That sounds like
a wonderful life and a career. Why

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did you want to run for Congress? Sure, First of all, for

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those of you that have seen if
you're old enough to have seen the black

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and white movie, mister Smith goes
to Washington, they need to do a

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remake. Missus Miller went to Washington
because I am an unlikely member of Congress.

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I'm not a politician and I so
I haven't served in the Illinois House

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or anything, and I'm not a
lawyer. My husband and I run a

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grain and cattle farm. We raised
corn cattle and kids, had seven children

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and we have twenty grandchildren. Now. I home. I'm an educator,

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so I ended up having an epiphany
once in a public school that our children

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and belong there. And this was
decades ago. The reason at that time

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wasn't what was in public school,
it was what was missing. And I

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ended up home educating my children.
I did pod groups, we called them

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co op groups before COVID. But
so most of our children have stayed close

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to the farm, built homes there, even if they don't farm with us,

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and we go to church together and
we still have old fashioned Sunday dinners.

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And about eight years ago, at
dinner, some of our kids were

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a very close family told us that
they had realtors working for them and they

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were going to join the exodus of
a million people out of Illinois, and

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that shocked my husband and myself into
the reality of how bad things were in

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Illinois. So my husband ran for
the House in Illinois where he serves now,

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and he's also chairman of the House
Freedom Caucus in Illinois, and I

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was alongside of him when Congressman John
Shimkis decided to retire, and he'd been

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in for twenty four years, and
I had I was not happy over the

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omnibus bills that were being passed.
So I was on my little farm in

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Illinois, raising a family, stewing
over these kitchen sink bills that included everything,

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and I was mad. And one
day I didn't really mean it seriously.

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I said I was going to run
for Congress. But long story short,

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people encouraged me to run. I
got a lot of local support.

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I won big the first time we
got redistricted. I ran against probably the

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most popular member of Congress who was
in leadership. Again, I won big

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in the primary. I ran on
policies, and I say that, like

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the scriptures say a tree is known
by its fruit, a politician can be

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known by their votes. And that's
what I did. That's how I won.

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My opponent had one of the most
liberal voting records in Congress and wanted

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to represent one of the most deep
red conservative districts in the United States.

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So here I am, and I'm
look at it as a privilege and an

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honor to serve the people in the
Illinois fifteen. So interesting and especially the

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timing of your run, giving your
background and farming. This is coming as

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your President Trump had really tried to
and with the support of so many farmers.

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The media expected to go into Middle
America and hear farmers that were upset

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about the tariffs. But farmers,
you would tell the media, we are

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we're sticking it out. We understand
all of this. And as somebody who

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had been in the industry for so
long, can you talk a little bit

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about how you sort of interpreted or
how you experienced President Trump's approach to farming

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and to terriffs and maybe how that
inspired you to get involved too. Oh

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sure, well, President Trump is
beloved in my district and in most of

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Illinois. As a whole. Illinois
we might, you know, elect a

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far left governor, but as a
whole, if you look at a map,

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Illinois is dark red and people appreciated
President Trump because his politicies impacted regular

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Americans in such a positive way.
Also, they appreciated how authentic he was.

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And I don't even remember the last
time we have had a politician who

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made it a priority to fulfill his
promises. And the people in our district

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appreciated that. In light of agriculture, he was very supportive of the farmers

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and he did make a way for
farmers to have a safety net while we

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kind of had some tumultuous, you
know, issues with tariffs and this and

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that. But I think the bottom
line is President Trump would say, why

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are we doing it this way when
it's hurting American people so bad or hurting

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the American farmer? Why are we
entering into trade agreements bad trade agreements?

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And he used every bit of leverage
that he had to negotiate better trade agreements

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for US and then stand up to
the Chinese, who definitely want to take

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over the role of the world's superpower
and they have a terrible human rights record.

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So I can tell you the farmers
and my district are very supportive of

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President Trump, and we are longing
for the day when he's back in office.

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And this is another thing that's actually
kind of interesting about the So what

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you were talking about with kitchen sink
bills, omnibus bills. You guys you're

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in the egg committee, and you
guys are talking right now about the farm

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bill, Yes, and how that
could possibly get to the center of some

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negotiation. Actually, just in the
next month, can you give us an

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update on negotiations over the farm bill? Do you expect to see movement in

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the next few weeks on that?
Well, let me just say I hope

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to see movement. I don't know
that I would actually say I expect to

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see movement. But we did pass
an extension so farmers can be assured of

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their having their risk management tools available. And you know, the other thing

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I want to tell your listeners is
the farm bill is on the verge of

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not even being able to be called
the farm bill. Eighty five percent of

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the farm bill is for the snap
food stamp program and only fifteen percent of

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it actually goes to agriculture producers,
trade, research and development. So not

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good. Yeah, and that gives
me to another question I want to ask

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you about. Is I'm sure you
were well of the giant omnibus farm bill.

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You know before you ran for Congress. Being in Congress, is it

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even have you found the kind of
corruption and the incompetence which is often to

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blame even more than corruption. Yes, have you found it to be worse?

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Is it just about what you expected? Tell us about you sort of

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being new in Congress and looking around. Well, the government is just way

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too big. It's way out of
control. We need and I President Trump

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understood that, so, you know, he wanted to shrink the federal government,

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return power back to the people,
to parents, to small businesses,

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to the states. I know it's
pine the sky wish, but we should

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shut the federal Department of Education,
return the power or you know, return

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all that back to the state and
local authorities to run our schools. He

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wanted to move agencies like the Bag
Department out into the heartland. So we

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the government is just too big for
oversight. That's why we have corruption,

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and we just need to defund most
of the federal government. I wanted to

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talk about the border, and this
is a big issue for you. That's

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a good place to start. Is
just you know, hitting you with the

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criticism the left loves to lean on
really heavily. Or I think some of

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them are genuinely confused about it.
They say, you know, why do

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people in the interior of the country
care about the border. Why do people

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in Illinois? Why are they so
fixated on what's happening in Texas? Can

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you address that a little bit,
Congresswoman, Well, Number one, they

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need to become aware that we are
under invasion and the numbers are massive,

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so they've there's been polling done,
and people that agree that the border should

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be secured, they have no understanding
of how big this invasion is. They're

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thinking like a tenth of what it
actually is. So Illinois is a sanctuary

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state, Chicago's a sanctuary city.
Rah Rah for open borders until Governor Abbott

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wisely started sending buses to these states
and cities. And I'm glad that he

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did because they're the ones that are
promoting open borders. Americans have every right

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to know who's coming into our country
and what their intentions are. We have

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immigration laws. The entire world wants
to come here, and there are great

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people waiting line to come here that
appreciate our country, want to obey our

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laws, and want to come here
legally. This is outrageous. What is

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happening. The fentanyl coming over the
border. We know over one hundred thousand

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young people died last year of drug
overdoses, mainly fentanyl. China scenting it

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over. It is human trafficking.
When I was down there recently, they

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was shocking. They told us that
they that the Biden administration has lost over

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one hundred thousand minor children. They
don't know where they are. It's basically

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modern day slavery. I was told
by border patrol that the cartels that the

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people coming over, if they don't
pay ahead of time, they owe the

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cartels. The cartels know where they
are once they come here and are transferred

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into the interior of the country.
Don't ask me how, but they know.

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You know, Biden doesn't know.
But they know where these people are

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and they want paid. And these
people make payments for eight to eleven years.

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It's like indentured servant hood or slavery, whatever you want to call it.

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Not to mention they are bringing diseases
in and just you know, criminals

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are coming over the border and terraces. I mean, Ron definitely is sending

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terrorists over the border. And the
Biden administration that has this catch and release

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program. They have caught people that
are on terrists watch lists and let them

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go. They are here, and
I don't think it's if it's when they're

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going to strike her country. It
is so bad, and it's I know

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that we've got the impeachment of my
orcas. He should be impeached. He

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is. He's guilty of treason,
as Joe Biden is. But there's someone

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behind Joe Biden. There's a wizard
behind the curtain. He's not pulling the

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strings. This is a Democrat agenda
and people need to remember that when they

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go to the polls next fall.
That invasion is a Democrat agenda to fundamentally

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transform our country. And let's get
into the impeachment of majorcus. I wanted

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to ask about so Jonathan Turtley,
for example, who's been pretty supportive of

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Donald Trump, against the law fair
and impeachment efforts and all the nonsense.

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He said, basically, the case
for impeach Ma Yorkis is kind of constitutionally

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weak. His quote is that it
lacks a cognizable basis for impeachment. But

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I wanted to put it this way
to you, does it risk does an

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impeachment of New Yorkist risk fur the
devaluating constitutional tools like impeachment or is it

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a necessary rebuttal to the left's weaponization
of those tools for years, especially against

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Donald Trump. Okay, well,
I disagree with him. I know Chairman

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Mark Green was very concerned about it. That's why they have waited so long

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to do it, because you know
the constitutionality of it, and and that

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that does matter to us. But
you are not We are not a country

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if you don't have borders, and
and this is this is such an it's

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hard to come up with the adjectives
to describe how bad this invasion is.

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I mean, they're talking ten million
people have come over the border already,

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and the border patrol even told us
they expect it to amp up before the

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next election, and we could have
fifteen million come over the border by the

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time Biden's term is done. It's
just so unbelievable. So I disagree with

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them. I think we should proceed
with it, and we are. Well,

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if you're a regular listener to this
program, you know I talk a

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lot about the gaps I feel like
are in my knowledge from my public school

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education to my secular college education.
Things like history, economics, the great

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works of literature, even the meaning
of the US Constitution. Did you study

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these things in school? In many
cases you may not have, or if

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you're like me, A you might
need a refresher and b you just might

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not think your education was that good
to begin with. Time and technology have

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changed a lot of things, but
they have not changed basic fundamental truths about

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the world and our place in it, no matter how badly today's teachers might

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Senate Republicans last week you had Senate
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more centrist people like James Langford just
acting absurdly and trying to blame Donald Trump

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for killing the horrible bill they were
working on because he was interest about politics

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and about elections over the country,
when if you care about the country,

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that was an idiotic bill. Do
you experience on the House side any problems

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because HR two passed the House.
It is a good bill. It would

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have been bipartisan, you know,
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do you experience any of those similar
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with shutting the border down basically and
with getting rid of open borders. I

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would say no. I think there
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and I'm not exactly sure why two
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against HR two. This is a
partisan issue. The Democrats want the border

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open and the Republicans want the border
closed. The Republican senators are part of

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a unit party and people need to
sit up and pay attention and fire the

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frauds. We need to flip get
rid of these people in the next election.

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Republicans that are going along with Democrat
policies to destroy our nation. And

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yeah, the deal that was being
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shouldn't say it's strange because it was
pretty predictable. But can you give us

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some reaction just to how Senate Republicans
we're trying to undermine the people that put

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them in power, basically by striking
a deal with Democrats that would have allowed

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somewhere around two million people to come
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single year. Right. Well,
I mean, I don't know what to

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say, but if these same people, if you look at their voting records,

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the hurricanes need to pay attention to
what these people are doing. The

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Senators that are promoting this are frauds. They are part of the uniparty destroying

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our nation. They're part of the
group that hates President Trump. Trump is

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pro United States America first. These
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They're globalists and they want to destroy
our nation. And how have you found

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now, Speaker Mike Johnson. I
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some frustrations. You re a member
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that there have been some frustrations with
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way, but also there's been some
support for him throughout this process, and

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part of that is negotiation and politics. But personally, how have you felt

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Mike johnson speakership has gone. You
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Well, I mean, personally,
he's my friend. I want him

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to be successful. But even Kevin
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that didn't vote to for him to
be speaker until we secured some big policy

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wins. But afterward I went to
him and I said, I'm praying for

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you. I want you to go
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ever had because if you're successful,
America will do better. And I feel

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the same way with Mike Johnson.
But Mike Johnson, I feel for him.

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He was popped in the position.
He didn't have staff, he had

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to hurry and hire staff, and
he didn't have runway for you know,

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passing the rest of our propriations bills, and we have such a slim majority.

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We're now down to one, and
we have people serving in the House,

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just like in the Senate, that
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go along with the party platform or
conservative things. So you know, I

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feel for Mike. I don't think
he should put important bills, big bills

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on suspension. I oppose that,
and you know I've been voting no.

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I voted no in the CR.
I want him to be successful, but

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I'm not going to go along with
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the American people. I interviewed Representative
Bob Good obviously, who's heading up the

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Freedom Caucus now recently, and again
I'm speaking of somebody who's generally very supportive

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of the Freedom Caucus and the Freedom
Caucus to be successful, and he sort

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of went off on Marjorie Tailly Green
and all of that, and I just

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wanted to pose this general question to
you, which is is the Freedom Caucus,

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you know, do you feel that
it's in a good, good enough

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shape to really be making a difference. Are those is the kind of internal

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palace intrigue and drama between members?
Is it? Is it harming the Freedom

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Caucus's ability to sort of act as
a united force in the way we often

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see the squad? Do are you
happy with where HFC is right now?

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So? I am thrilled. I'm
so happy to belong to HFC. I

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think that they play an integral role
here to pull the House and the party

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back to the Constitution and to the
party platform. We have a lot of

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vigorous discourse among each other and sometimes
disagreements. It's not true that if you

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belong to the House Freedom Caucus you
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there's no other group, in my
opinion, that is influential in the House

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as the as the House Freedom Caucus. And you know, obviously I have

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seven children, and I understand when
you get a lot of humans together,

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you have differences of opinion. You
sometimes you know, have self centeredness.

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Well a lot of times you do
our pride whatever, and you got to

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work through those things. But the
House Freedom Caucus is united in their desire

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to get the best bills possible for
the American people. Well, yeah,

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that's good to hear because those you
know, personal dramas and all that can

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just be so hard to get things
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But another thing that Freedom Caucus has
been really strong on is Ukraine.

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And that's what I know. There
have been some points of tension with Speaker

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Johnson over Ukraine. Could you know
you've actually taken some really I think brave

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bold sands, you know, whether
it's Sweden, Uh, Sweden's ascension to

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NATO, whether it's the AUMF.
I mean, all of these things are

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are really important, and they're so
different than where the mainstream Republican you know,

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blob in Washington was just ten years
ago. Can you talk about why

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Ukraine funding at this point, why
you're adamant against it at this point?

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Right, Well, I'll go back
to originally and you know some of the

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first votes when we started sending them
billions of dollars, and I was the

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only member in Illinois voting no against
funding to Ukraine. And my number one

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problem with it was that we are
funding both sides of the war. On

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day one, when Joe Biden began
his attack on American energy independence, he

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allowed Putin. He enriched Putin by
shutting our energy down and allowing Putin then

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to have the money to go into
Ukraine and attack Ukraine number one, and

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then we turn around and send them
one hundred billion dollars. So we're funding

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both sides of the war. And
also if the biggest threat to the world

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is if America goes down, if
the US is strong, the world will

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be safer and better off. And
other people around the world that I meet

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and from different countries. They understand
it. China is breathing down our neck.

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They want to be the next superpower, and so that we need to

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make United States strong in the world, and so we need to pay attention

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our own energy independent, securing our
own border. But also I am so

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grieved that we have funded Putin's ability
to go into Ukraine. They have lost

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so many lives over there, and
even young people. They're soldiers that have

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lost limbs. I think I heard
five hundred thousand dead, fifty thousand have

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lost limbs. The average age of
a soldier there now is forty two.

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That grieves me. And we are
partially responsible. Joe Biden is responsible for

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allowing Putin to be enriched, and
now Joe Biden has enriched Iran. Joe

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Biden now is to me responsible for
these terrorist attacks in the Middle East because

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Iran then turned around with the money
we allowed them to get and funded the

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terrorists. And there again, we're
gonna then come in and help Israel,

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which I want to do, but
we're funding both sides of that war.

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Now, let's flip to the danger
we have in the world, which is

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China's potential attack on Taiwan. Well, we've enriched China through this green bed

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deal, and you know all these
batteries and windmill solar panels shutting down our

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energy, and they can out manufacture
us because they open a coal fire plant

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every week. I mean, our
policies are horrible, and then so we

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enrich China, they go tack Taiwan, and then we come in and defend

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Taiwan. So now we have three
pending world wars and we have funded both

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sides of them. It's terrible.
Joe Biden's policies are terrible. He can

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do nothing but create chaos. He
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in a tight schedule. I want
to follow up on that just by asking,

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again from the perspective of somebody who
has relatively fresh eyes in Washington,

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why is it that, for all
the reasons you just outlined, you have

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the average age of soldiers now in
Ukraine forty two years old. There have

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been, as far as we know
from reporting, scuttled peace talks and all

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of that. Why is it that
even some Republicans whose constituents understand this,

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insist on doing otherwise and sort of
cling to Ukraine funding and all of that,

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even though you know, actually Kevin
McCarthy was somebody who was decent on

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this because he was reading the tea
leaves and he kind of understood where voters

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were. But why is it,
you, just again with your fresh eyes

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here in Washington, that people are
clinging to Ukraine funding so desperately. Well,

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I would not. I can't judge
what people's motives are. I think

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there's some people that like our old
school military and you know, we need

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to be the least around the world
and get involved in all these conflicts,

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So I can't really judge what their
motives are, but I do want to

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say there are people Democrats and Republicans
that are funded by the military complex,

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and I think it could skew their
judgment. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

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Well my last question is maybe my
most important one, which is Joe Biden's

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economy is really tough for a whole
lot of people. Even if you know

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Paul Krugman and others at the New
York Times and then the media complex,

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media industrial complex don't understand that.
What do your constituents tell you when you're

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back home, when you're in the
district. What's front of mind for them

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right now? I mean we're heading
into an election year, so that's especially

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relevant. But when you talk to
them, what are they concerned about Trump

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getting re elected? They hate the
Green Bad Deal, they can see right

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through that that it's tutulitarian communism.
They're concerned about China and their soldiers coming

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over the border, very concerned about
the border being secured. But also,

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you know, just in everyday Americans
pocketbooks are trying to run a business or

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buying inputs for the farm. Inflation
is killing people, and you know you

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can't just create all these dollars out
of thin air and not think it's not

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going to amp up inflation. And
Joe Biden has and the Democrats, it's

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not just him. I want to
remind people because we can get rid of

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Joe Biden if we have Democrats in
control. These are their policies. They

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they're reckless with the American dollar,
the green everything goes back to energy,

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and for Joe Biden and his people
to shut down our energy independence is a

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really cruel thing to do the American
people. Congresswoman Mary Miller represents Illinois fifteenth

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District. Congresswoman, thank you so
much for joining the show. Well,

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you're welcome, have a great day. Thank you you too. Bye.

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