WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:11.759 This is Pod Populi Podcast for the People. The Great Love Debate. It's 2 00:00:11.800 --> 00:00:18.160 the Great Love Debate, the Great Love Debate. It's the Great Love Toba. 3 00:00:19.120 --> 00:00:23.199 Hi again, everyone's Brian how We welcome to the Great Love Debate, 4 00:00:23.239 --> 00:00:27.199 the world's number one dating and relationship podcasts. It's twenty fifteen. I am 5 00:00:27.239 --> 00:00:34.159 here in the brand new, fancy evolved studio of pod Populi Podcast for the 6 00:00:34.159 --> 00:00:37.679 People. I'm at the one in Scottsdale, Arizona. This one oh Man 7 00:00:38.280 --> 00:00:42.920 Pod Popula two point oh here in Oldtown. UM. I'm very excited about 8 00:00:42.960 --> 00:00:46.439 this episode. I'll bring in my co host for this episode in a second. 9 00:00:47.039 --> 00:00:51.399 Um. As I told you last week, I wanted to talk about 10 00:00:51.640 --> 00:00:55.240 breakups, and not because I have some sense of the maccab or whatever. 11 00:00:55.280 --> 00:00:59.399 And I wasn't interested in why you guys broke up because that has a lot 12 00:00:59.439 --> 00:01:03.200 of nuances. You can break up a million different ways, for a million 13 00:01:03.240 --> 00:01:04.400 different reasons, over a million different things. I don't want to get in. 14 00:01:04.760 --> 00:01:08.200 I wanted to get into the how. I want to know how people 15 00:01:08.239 --> 00:01:12.920 are handling breakups, and so I asked you guys to send out an APB 16 00:01:14.400 --> 00:01:19.079 at all points break up for you guys to send me how you broke up, 17 00:01:19.200 --> 00:01:23.359 whether you were the broke up or or you were the broke up e. 18 00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:26.439 I wanted to find out how, and I wanted to pick some different 19 00:01:26.439 --> 00:01:30.120 ones and be like, oh God. And so you guys sent some weird 20 00:01:30.159 --> 00:01:33.200 ones, you sent some funny ones, you sent some sad ones, crazy 21 00:01:33.239 --> 00:01:37.400 ones, and so we picked a half dozen here and we're gonna run through 22 00:01:37.400 --> 00:01:40.760 them, and we're gonna give you a few thoughts on if that was handled 23 00:01:40.799 --> 00:01:42.879 correctly or why you think they do that or whatever. So I brought in 24 00:01:44.400 --> 00:01:47.799 I don't think know if she's an expert on breaking up. She's been on 25 00:01:47.840 --> 00:01:51.000 this podcast twice before, three times before, I think three times, three 26 00:01:51.040 --> 00:01:53.519 times a lady. She's the host of Path the Passion. She's a voiceover 27 00:01:55.879 --> 00:01:57.680 artist and a singer. She might sing a little bit. So we're talking 28 00:01:57.719 --> 00:02:02.519 about breakups today because breaking up is hard to do. Well, I don't 29 00:02:02.560 --> 00:02:05.640 know if it's hard to do, so we're going to get into it. 30 00:02:05.680 --> 00:02:08.439 I mean, it should be hard to do, even if you went out 31 00:02:08.439 --> 00:02:12.479 for a short period of time with people, it should be hard to do. 32 00:02:12.520 --> 00:02:15.800 You should thoughts on this, feel some angst about it? Are you 33 00:02:15.840 --> 00:02:19.560 a good breaker upper. Have you dumped a lot of dudes in your life? 34 00:02:20.039 --> 00:02:23.960 Um? Is there a just a pile of Yayle Lancier, I say 35 00:02:23.960 --> 00:02:28.560 your name, Yayle, welcome back. Yeah, thank you, thank you 36 00:02:28.599 --> 00:02:31.520 for having me. Um, you know there is not a big pile of 37 00:02:31.639 --> 00:02:38.000 broken up yeah, al Lancian or dudes, but lancian xes. Yeah, 38 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:42.319 exactly. No. I think a lot of my breakups have been mutual. 39 00:02:42.960 --> 00:02:46.240 Um or it just kind of felt like your ran its course. Yeah, 40 00:02:46.400 --> 00:02:50.000 yeah, it just kind of ran its course. And then in those cases, 41 00:02:50.039 --> 00:02:53.680 the breakups, you know, are not that hard. However, I 42 00:02:53.759 --> 00:02:55.919 have had my heart broken, and I have broken my hearts, and you 43 00:02:55.960 --> 00:03:00.520 have broken hearts. Yeah. Are you aware when you are breaking the heart 44 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:02.639 that you're doing it? Yes? Are you aware before you break up that 45 00:03:02.639 --> 00:03:07.199 you're probably going to break a heart? Yes? Does that affect the how? 46 00:03:08.159 --> 00:03:13.080 Yes, So if you think you're going to break a heart, do 47 00:03:13.159 --> 00:03:20.840 you like send a carrier pigeon on the fridge? No? No, it 48 00:03:20.960 --> 00:03:24.639 affects the how in terms of like the delivery, you know, Yeah, 49 00:03:24.680 --> 00:03:28.240 you know, and you're just more sensitive to the whole thing. And it's 50 00:03:28.240 --> 00:03:31.879 also just a lot harder. Yeah, I know, going and and then 51 00:03:31.960 --> 00:03:35.960 you hope they move on quickly to somebody else so you don't feel so guilty, 52 00:03:36.080 --> 00:03:38.039 I know. And then it's the worst when you live together, and 53 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:40.240 then you have to figure that whole thing out. And we'll get into that 54 00:03:40.639 --> 00:03:46.879 second. Yeah, that's what I mean. Divorce people you've never been married. 55 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:51.039 No, the day's not over though I've never been married. That's got 56 00:03:51.039 --> 00:03:53.360 to be like, okay, now do who calls the lawyer and the paperwork 57 00:03:54.240 --> 00:04:00.080 the day somebody moves out? There's in those cases break it out. That 58 00:04:00.159 --> 00:04:03.319 sounds so adult. We've talked about on this podcast before how a lot of 59 00:04:03.319 --> 00:04:08.280 boyfriends and girlfriends break up and get back together all the time, but husbands 60 00:04:08.319 --> 00:04:12.560 and wives that rarely happens. Once you bring attorneys into things, Yeah, 61 00:04:12.599 --> 00:04:15.319 but it does happen. It does happen, Yeah, it does, all 62 00:04:15.399 --> 00:04:19.199 right. So you guys great love listeners. You sent them a lot of 63 00:04:19.199 --> 00:04:25.000 emails, some of you of our Facebook on our Instagram actually, and we 64 00:04:25.079 --> 00:04:27.879 got a lot because I only asked for these like a week or two ago. 65 00:04:28.040 --> 00:04:31.319 And you guys all had some good ones and sometimes you were the breaker 66 00:04:31.399 --> 00:04:34.600 upper and sometimes you were the breaker up. So we have a half dozen 67 00:04:34.639 --> 00:04:38.079 of them here, and we are going to break them down and give our 68 00:04:38.120 --> 00:04:41.800 thoughts on this. You're ready, ready, Okay. The first one is 69 00:04:41.839 --> 00:04:46.160 from Lisa in New York. We flew to Paris for his fortieth birthday. 70 00:04:46.279 --> 00:04:49.560 All my friends said that this was the opportunity he was going to take to 71 00:04:49.639 --> 00:04:54.680 propose. We always spoked about it and talked about how Paris would be a 72 00:04:54.759 --> 00:04:57.959 fun place to get engaged. Long story short, we were there a week. 73 00:04:58.000 --> 00:05:00.199 He got weirder by the day, and on the way home he just 74 00:05:00.240 --> 00:05:02.120 looks at me in first class and says, I don't think I can see 75 00:05:02.120 --> 00:05:05.759 you anymore. And that was that. Somewhere over Greenland, he just said 76 00:05:05.800 --> 00:05:10.000 that. Then he didn't say another word. Why not do it before the 77 00:05:10.040 --> 00:05:13.399 trip? Did I do something on the trip? I'll never know. I 78 00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:15.600 drank fourteen glasses of champagne And that was that. He stuck me in a 79 00:05:15.639 --> 00:05:19.680 cab and it was the end. WHOA, that's gotta be. We're going 80 00:05:19.720 --> 00:05:25.680 from oh my god, we're gonna get engaged to that doesn't happen already disappointment 81 00:05:25.759 --> 00:05:28.639 to I'm out. I wish we knew how long we were together for. 82 00:05:29.000 --> 00:05:31.800 Well, if she thought they had alreadys talked about it. So he hit 83 00:05:31.839 --> 00:05:36.040 forty maybe and had a midlife crisis. I mean, or maybe he just 84 00:05:36.040 --> 00:05:39.600 saw a lot of hot girls in Paris. I mean, could that be 85 00:05:39.639 --> 00:05:44.160 it? But then you figure his mood would be I don't know. Then 86 00:05:44.680 --> 00:05:46.639 that's weird, Like why do it on the plane? I feel, Lisa, 87 00:05:46.720 --> 00:05:53.800 I'm not judging. Did you do something? Did you pressure him like 88 00:05:53.839 --> 00:05:57.639 thinking the break? Did you make him feel like he was disappointing you on 89 00:05:57.680 --> 00:06:00.920 this trip to Paris for his birthday? First of all, a couple of 90 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:05.680 things. I don't know why you would think Paris for his birthday because I 91 00:06:05.720 --> 00:06:11.360 think going he didn't go like on a trip to Vegas for his fortith birthday 92 00:06:11.360 --> 00:06:15.519 with the Fellas. He chose to take you to Paris for his fortieth birthday, 93 00:06:15.560 --> 00:06:18.680 which is good. Why would you think though his fortieth birthday was a 94 00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:23.519 chance for him to propose to you? That's that seems weird. I don't 95 00:06:23.560 --> 00:06:25.879 think that seems that weird. But you know what, I just had a 96 00:06:25.879 --> 00:06:30.839 thought, Okay, what if he was going to propose and then all the 97 00:06:30.879 --> 00:06:34.639 feelings that came up when he was about to propose, Like, we're not 98 00:06:34.759 --> 00:06:39.360 good, and then he realized like, oh crap, I don't want to 99 00:06:39.360 --> 00:06:43.920 marry this person. And then yeah, and then on the way home he 100 00:06:43.959 --> 00:06:47.279 broke up with her. In that case, sort of props to that, 101 00:06:47.480 --> 00:06:51.879 because a lot of times the reverse of that, he does ask a woman 102 00:06:51.920 --> 00:06:54.639 who's like, oh my god, I want to marry him, They say 103 00:06:54.720 --> 00:07:00.360 yes anyway, and then four years later they're they're getting out. Yeah, 104 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:04.560 why of all the places to break up, why not wait till you land? 105 00:07:04.800 --> 00:07:11.040 Yeah? Like, why do it in first? Burning inside? Another 106 00:07:11.120 --> 00:07:15.319 word? Do we hold Lisa A? I mean, Lisa, I appreciate 107 00:07:15.319 --> 00:07:16.720 because you are a listener, because you're the one who wrote this in so 108 00:07:16.759 --> 00:07:21.120 I don't want to offend you. Um, why not do it before the 109 00:07:21.120 --> 00:07:27.800 trip? I think? I think Yea's um theory is probably good. Did 110 00:07:27.839 --> 00:07:32.199 I do something on the trip? Maybe subconsciously you felt pressure and he felt 111 00:07:32.240 --> 00:07:39.720 boxed in and he just snapped somewhere over Greenland. Totally I could see that. 112 00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:42.879 That sucks. He stuck me in a cab and it was the end. 113 00:07:43.959 --> 00:07:46.720 At least you had the champagne and at least you got I hope he 114 00:07:46.720 --> 00:07:48.959 paid for the cab. I mean, just stuck you like, and that's 115 00:07:49.160 --> 00:07:54.639 how do you I want? Was there a conversation after the worst part about 116 00:07:54.639 --> 00:07:58.199 this whole thing is her friends were probably be like, oh my god, 117 00:07:58.199 --> 00:08:00.759 did he do it? And like when she got at home and she has 118 00:08:00.759 --> 00:08:05.600 to explain, and then she probably had fourteen bottles of champagne instead of glasses. 119 00:08:05.879 --> 00:08:09.160 That sucks. I kind of. I don't think he was just a 120 00:08:09.240 --> 00:08:13.120 dick. I think something happened. Yeah, I agree, definitely, there 121 00:08:13.160 --> 00:08:16.879 was a moment of realization for him. Not good. All right, Sorry, 122 00:08:16.959 --> 00:08:22.879 Lisa, Sorry Lisa, all right? The next one from oh my 123 00:08:22.959 --> 00:08:28.319 god, Jonathan from just outside Chicago. Okay, My girlfriend was the absolute 124 00:08:28.360 --> 00:08:33.000 worst about checking email. She said email was impersonal. She would always text 125 00:08:33.080 --> 00:08:37.240 or messenger or instat or just about any other means of communication. She used 126 00:08:37.279 --> 00:08:41.039 to get in trouble at work all the time because she would go weeks without 127 00:08:41.120 --> 00:08:43.840 checking her email. She didn't have it set up on her phone. I 128 00:08:43.919 --> 00:08:46.080 used to get it get on her case all the time about it. She 129 00:08:46.159 --> 00:08:50.840 isn't nineteen, she's thirty one. Anyway, you can guess where this is 130 00:08:50.879 --> 00:08:54.600 going. I opened my email and there it is from her, neatly type 131 00:08:54.639 --> 00:08:58.480 perfect punctuation with a CC to herself, John, I am seeing somebody else. 132 00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:03.360 This was the best way to tell you love you, Maya. And 133 00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:05.240 that was that kind of a fuck you on top of the fuck you. 134 00:09:07.519 --> 00:09:11.000 Oh my god, oh no. As soon as it started saying how much 135 00:09:11.000 --> 00:09:15.360 she didn't like email, out was like, I know this is going. 136 00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:22.000 Oh man, that is talk about Yeah, why like she's seeing somebody else, 137 00:09:22.039 --> 00:09:26.480 but why she takes the time at this time The CC to herself like, 138 00:09:26.600 --> 00:09:31.200 yeah, that's weird, right, just a reminder you wanted I just 139 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:37.159 wanted on my records. Maybe okay, I never want to defend the dumper 140 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:41.360 because you know, but maybe it was maybe you got on her case so 141 00:09:41.440 --> 00:09:46.600 much about the email and the new guy they snapchat each other and he doesn't 142 00:09:46.600 --> 00:09:50.679 give a shit about email that She's just like, you want the truth, 143 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:56.720 John Jonathan from out to Chicago, fuck off, here's your email. No, 144 00:09:56.720 --> 00:10:01.279 No, you're nice though. That's a nice thought. I I think 145 00:10:01.720 --> 00:10:07.039 that he said that. She always said how impersonal email was, and so 146 00:10:07.399 --> 00:10:11.679 to her, I think that was the most impersonal, like distanced way she 147 00:10:11.720 --> 00:10:16.799 could do it, that she would feel the least shitty about doing it. 148 00:10:16.960 --> 00:10:20.320 That's probably it. Yeah, it was too. The other ones were too 149 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:24.639 close for her. So basically, she's just a giant pussy. Can I 150 00:10:24.679 --> 00:10:28.159 say that on here? Yeah, you can say pussy. I think you're 151 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:33.279 right. She didn't need to send me. I'm seeing somebody else. Does 152 00:10:33.320 --> 00:10:37.360 he want to know that? Like, well, that's part of the truth. 153 00:10:37.799 --> 00:10:41.759 Yeah, so she was honest. This is impersonal. Here's a little 154 00:10:41.799 --> 00:10:45.960 fact about it. Yeah, we're done here. Correct. Oh man, 155 00:10:46.200 --> 00:10:48.279 I don't know about that. Have you ever been dumped in an email? 156 00:10:48.440 --> 00:10:54.840 No? Have you? Yes? Oh my god. Sylvester Stallone very famously 157 00:10:54.960 --> 00:11:00.320 his wife who I believe he's still married to. He dumped her via FEDEXX 158 00:11:00.360 --> 00:11:05.159 together and still together like twenty five years later. But it was like a 159 00:11:05.159 --> 00:11:09.600 weird It was like a story back in the day, and I actually heard 160 00:11:09.639 --> 00:11:13.159 the story firsthand. So Janice Dickinson like tricked him and said she was pregnant 161 00:11:13.159 --> 00:11:15.200 his baby. So he had to get out of this thing. He panicked, 162 00:11:15.200 --> 00:11:16.519 he said, a FedEx. It was a whole legal fuck up by 163 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:22.960 stallone. Google at Google stallone, FedEx, you have an obsession with FedEx? 164 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:26.039 I have an obsession with FedEx? Was I mean I want to drive? 165 00:11:26.279 --> 00:11:28.799 No? I just remember you researching FedEx one day, and like you 166 00:11:28.840 --> 00:11:33.639 were, just I was wondering their business model because very few packages are sent 167 00:11:33.799 --> 00:11:37.279 overnight. The answer to that the FedEx is the letters got replaced by the 168 00:11:37.320 --> 00:11:43.120 boxes to people ordering shit online, so it's shittier for the driver. The 169 00:11:43.200 --> 00:11:46.120 driver used to walk around like with a nice envelope and it was really easy. 170 00:11:46.320 --> 00:11:50.120 Okay, the little FedEx pack Those were easy to carry around. Now 171 00:11:50.159 --> 00:11:54.639 they're lugging around toys. Yeah yeah, anyway, sidebar, so he said. 172 00:11:54.679 --> 00:11:56.799 Jonathan said kind of a fuck you on top of the fuck you, 173 00:11:56.840 --> 00:12:01.039 honestly, Jonathan, Yeah, but you're probably better off with I think I 174 00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:03.759 think you got an email in twenty twenty three, like you are an adult. 175 00:12:05.039 --> 00:12:09.039 People do communicate that way. Sorry, yeah, sorry Jay, all 176 00:12:09.120 --> 00:12:13.679 right. The next one is from sorry buddy Nicole, and she sent this 177 00:12:13.840 --> 00:12:20.519 via our Facebook page. Me and my ex used to fight constantly about everything, 178 00:12:20.639 --> 00:12:22.960 yelling, doors, slamming, weeks without talking. I never thought we 179 00:12:22.960 --> 00:12:26.759 would be together forever, but we never quite totally broke up. Anyway, 180 00:12:26.799 --> 00:12:30.679 We went out one night, had a nice dinner, seemed fine, We 181 00:12:30.720 --> 00:12:33.759 went home, had amazing sex. We were lying there in bed and he 182 00:12:33.799 --> 00:12:37.080 says, should we just end it on a high note, no hard feelings. 183 00:12:37.120 --> 00:12:39.759 And I thought, you know what, yes, this is perfect, 184 00:12:39.960 --> 00:12:43.279 no fighting, no tears, Let's let this be the end of our road. 185 00:12:43.639 --> 00:12:46.039 We went to sleep, I woked up, packed my stuff and moved 186 00:12:46.039 --> 00:12:50.399 on with my life. Bad relationship with the best breakup ever. Awesome kind 187 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:54.919 of good, right, Yeah, I was smiling that whole time. Yeah, 188 00:12:54.960 --> 00:12:58.600 it was like, if you know you're gonna get out, pick the 189 00:12:58.639 --> 00:13:03.240 best moment and rather than cling to the best moment, yeah, thank you 190 00:13:03.279 --> 00:13:09.600 everybody, good night. Yeah. I think it's awesome that she agreed because 191 00:13:09.720 --> 00:13:13.559 it instead of just being like no, because you know, usually in that 192 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:16.519 high moment, like you said, you want to cling on and you imagine 193 00:13:16.240 --> 00:13:20.320 close to this precipice a few times and then it turned into a fight or 194 00:13:20.320 --> 00:13:24.440 whatever. It was like we're good here. I like this, No, 195 00:13:24.559 --> 00:13:26.399 I love that. Yeah, that was good. Must have been a good 196 00:13:26.399 --> 00:13:30.639 dinner. So they both kind of knew deep down like it wasn't gonna go 197 00:13:30.639 --> 00:13:35.399 forever, good for him? Should we just end it on a high note, 198 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:37.320 no hard feelings. And she didn't say what do you mean, like 199 00:13:37.919 --> 00:13:41.039 new yeah, and she was like, yeah, that's a great idea those 200 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:46.840 years and yelling, slamming. They they met at this moment and they high 201 00:13:46.879 --> 00:13:48.279 fived and hit the road. Yeah, I don't know. I'm strangely like 202 00:13:48.399 --> 00:13:54.039 turned on. Good for you, Nicole, and good for him, good 203 00:13:54.080 --> 00:13:56.159 for all of it. Good job, all right, we have more on 204 00:13:56.240 --> 00:14:01.360 this. Um, we're dealing with the breakups. Oh breaking up this huh 205 00:14:01.600 --> 00:14:05.720 to do? But I gotta take a quick break to pay for things like 206 00:14:05.759 --> 00:14:13.320 breakups around here. But we will be back right after this. We are 207 00:14:13.360 --> 00:14:20.559 back. Me and Lady Lanciano are diving into the how instead of the why 208 00:14:20.799 --> 00:14:24.440 of the breakups. The next one is from and this is what he called 209 00:14:24.519 --> 00:14:28.679 himself. So this is how he signed his letter, the asshole from Maryland. 210 00:14:30.279 --> 00:14:33.919 Okay, I'm not sure this is a breakup story as much as a 211 00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:37.879 impossible to break up story. I wasn't even dating this girl for very long. 212 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:41.080 I said I didn't want to see her anymore, and she kept saying 213 00:14:41.120 --> 00:14:45.039 she understood. She just needed to pick up some things in my apartment, 214 00:14:45.279 --> 00:14:46.720 so she would come over. We would talk for an hour, she said 215 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:50.080 she understood, and she would call three days later saying she forgot something else 216 00:14:50.120 --> 00:14:52.759 at my house and needed to come over again, over and over. She 217 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:56.200 would do this. I can't I can't imagine she would have that much stuff 218 00:14:56.240 --> 00:15:00.919 at my place. She was either planting stuff all along or bring new stuff 219 00:15:00.919 --> 00:15:03.159 each trip. I don't know. This went on for sevens straight weeks. 220 00:15:03.200 --> 00:15:07.480 Finally my lease was up and I moved out and deleted her info. Maybe 221 00:15:07.480 --> 00:15:11.919 the next tenant is dating her. Who knows. So you talk about one 222 00:15:11.960 --> 00:15:18.879 of the most awkward things that it's popped up. But there are people who 223 00:15:18.919 --> 00:15:22.120 do this like I gotta come back one more time. The awkward you brought 224 00:15:22.120 --> 00:15:24.919 it up earlier is the you break up and then you're like it could be 225 00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:30.720 anything from like furniture to own my favorite sweatshirts over your house? Can I 226 00:15:30.759 --> 00:15:35.159 get the box of stuff? Sometimes people just leave it. I always tell 227 00:15:35.200 --> 00:15:39.120 people like, you're done, you lose whatever, whatever is there, you 228 00:15:39.200 --> 00:15:41.879 lose, You're done. No, what do you mean? No, No, 229 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:45.159 that's it, You're out. No possessions. It's done. It's tainted. 230 00:15:45.200 --> 00:15:46.399 It was in the older. What do you say? Everything? What 231 00:15:46.440 --> 00:15:50.080 do you want to do? Go? Get everything? Get everything? And 232 00:15:50.080 --> 00:15:54.159 then I get hairbrush? No, but maybe there's other stuff like what like 233 00:15:54.279 --> 00:15:58.120 my favorite sweater or some or a pair of earrings. I always leave earrings 234 00:15:58.120 --> 00:16:00.240 and it's not on purpose. By the way, I think that you lose. 235 00:16:00.360 --> 00:16:03.159 I think that's it. No, I totally disn't word becau Does it 236 00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:10.360 matter who dumped say she dumped him? Okay, he could be like fuck 237 00:16:10.399 --> 00:16:15.960 you? Is he a dick for throwing shit out? Um? Yeah yeah 238 00:16:17.000 --> 00:16:18.480 he is. Yeah. Wait so and that's like, where do you stand 239 00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:22.960 on giving on giving the giving the ring back? You gotta give the ringback, 240 00:16:25.799 --> 00:16:30.759 you do. Yeah, it's a gift. It's a gift for if 241 00:16:30.759 --> 00:16:34.639 you're going to get married. Okay. So if you say I want to 242 00:16:34.639 --> 00:16:38.240 marry you and you give the ringback, okay, how about you don't give 243 00:16:38.240 --> 00:16:41.480 it. You don't have to give the ringback if the person who gave it 244 00:16:41.480 --> 00:16:45.799 to you is like totally loaded, okay, then it's fine. There's the 245 00:16:45.200 --> 00:16:52.360 So if I if I dump you, I think you have the right to 246 00:16:52.360 --> 00:16:56.279 come get your stuff. If you dump me your favorite sweaters in the dumpster, 247 00:16:56.639 --> 00:16:59.039 like, I have no obligation to pack up your shit in a nice 248 00:16:59.080 --> 00:17:04.799 kneatbox. Somebody's angry. Hey, I'm seeing Joe now, can I just 249 00:17:04.880 --> 00:17:07.039 come over and clean the drawers? Out. I would be like, fuck 250 00:17:07.079 --> 00:17:10.880 off. I think you lou, I think that's it. I think that's 251 00:17:10.880 --> 00:17:14.960 severance. Okay, well we can agree to disagree on this one, okay. 252 00:17:15.480 --> 00:17:22.960 Max One Lila Lila Lila, La La, Lila Lila via our Facebook 253 00:17:22.960 --> 00:17:26.759 page. I dated this guy for eighteen months. He was Jewish, I 254 00:17:26.799 --> 00:17:30.119 am sort of nothing. He has forty eight never been married. I am 255 00:17:30.160 --> 00:17:34.039 thirty seven, divorced. Once thought we were good. One day his mother 256 00:17:34.160 --> 00:17:38.079 calls me and says, sorry that Ken didn't have the guts to tell you, 257 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:41.640 but I will. He is not marrying a non Jewish divorce and there 258 00:17:41.680 --> 00:17:45.200 is no point in him dating one. You won't be seeing him again. 259 00:17:45.759 --> 00:17:48.400 I thought it was a joke. I called him, left a message like 260 00:17:48.400 --> 00:17:52.119 what the fuck? He text me back one word sorry. Called him a 261 00:17:52.200 --> 00:17:56.200 dozen times after that because I needed a little more than a sorry and a 262 00:17:56.200 --> 00:18:03.240 call from a mother. Never got anymore. The end. Oh my gosh, 263 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:08.920 that stain. Now you are of Israeli descent, yeah, to say, 264 00:18:10.039 --> 00:18:11.640 yeah, I was raised Jewish. There's a lot of pressure too, 265 00:18:12.920 --> 00:18:17.720 Yeah, within the tribe. I think a lot of times the guy, 266 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:22.079 especially does not want to admit that they get into these relationships. They're feeling 267 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:26.200 like you can't marry her, you can't marry her, and they don't know 268 00:18:26.240 --> 00:18:29.680 how to either tell themselves that or tell her that. So mom stepped in. 269 00:18:29.960 --> 00:18:34.519 That is so sad. It's so sad. And yeah, a divorced, 270 00:18:36.759 --> 00:18:41.000 non Jewish divorce. That's like, who cares that she's divorced? Like 271 00:18:41.039 --> 00:18:44.160 that shouldn't even matter. I think she was just adding that to the non 272 00:18:44.240 --> 00:18:45.880 Jewish thing. It's the non Jewish thing, I think that was. And 273 00:18:45.920 --> 00:18:48.200 so he just said, sorry, how are you familiar with this? Because 274 00:18:48.240 --> 00:18:52.440 I am familiar with similar things like this where they just shut it down. 275 00:18:52.480 --> 00:18:55.680 He didn't have the balls, I know, because he probably thought it was 276 00:18:55.720 --> 00:18:59.599 like ridiculous, and he probably loves her. He knew the mother was going 277 00:18:59.640 --> 00:19:03.599 to make this call. Yeah, oh you think I think you don't knew 278 00:19:03.599 --> 00:19:04.559 it? I will. It was a conversation. I think he knew. 279 00:19:04.599 --> 00:19:10.519 He may have even been sitting there. What do you think you do it? 280 00:19:11.200 --> 00:19:12.640 They're just sitting there, Yeah, Mom, you have to call. 281 00:19:12.839 --> 00:19:15.680 I'm not going to tell her. You tell her he's forty what is he's 282 00:19:15.759 --> 00:19:19.400 forty eight? I know, so his mother has to be seventy something at 283 00:19:19.480 --> 00:19:26.759 least I'm sorry. I got a call a jew He's not marrying you down. 284 00:19:26.200 --> 00:19:30.000 You got to find somebody else, got a nice girl down? What 285 00:19:30.039 --> 00:19:33.799 happened to the nice birn of dead down? This? Um? That sucks? 286 00:19:34.799 --> 00:19:37.799 But he and he didn't. He didn't just just be he said. 287 00:19:37.799 --> 00:19:42.359 He just said sorry, Like I think Lilah, Lila, Lila. I 288 00:19:42.400 --> 00:19:47.799 think he got off easy. Um. He could have married you and then 289 00:19:47.839 --> 00:19:51.359 you just felt hated by everybody around and he resent and there's pressure. You 290 00:19:51.359 --> 00:19:52.799 don't want to get in a situation like that if he doesn't have the balls 291 00:19:52.839 --> 00:19:56.240 to step up. I was just gonna tell his family, like listen, 292 00:19:56.279 --> 00:19:57.519 I love her and this is it and you're gonna have to learn this. 293 00:19:59.400 --> 00:20:03.400 We run in to this scenario with a lot of cultures. Indian culture is 294 00:20:03.720 --> 00:20:10.759 very strict about They still give a ton of family pressure. So does Jewish 295 00:20:10.759 --> 00:20:12.240 but so does you know. If he doesn't have the ball to even just 296 00:20:12.279 --> 00:20:15.559 tell you himself, then you should be glad that you're not with him. 297 00:20:17.119 --> 00:20:19.400 Here did he say during he dated this guy for eighteen months, So at 298 00:20:19.400 --> 00:20:23.160 any time during the eighteen months, is like he must have brought it up. 299 00:20:23.279 --> 00:20:26.799 No, like hey or is he just wanted to date her and the 300 00:20:26.880 --> 00:20:30.119 mothers it's time for you to settle down with a nice Jewish But just the 301 00:20:30.119 --> 00:20:33.960 fact that he can't talk about hard things like that's an issue. Yeah, 302 00:20:33.000 --> 00:20:37.519 I know, so she so congratulation. Forty eight, never been married, 303 00:20:38.319 --> 00:20:42.480 might not have wanted to marry the Jewish girls and then knew that he couldn't 304 00:20:42.480 --> 00:20:45.680 marry the non Jewish girls, So that might have been a you know, 305 00:20:47.559 --> 00:20:49.319 it's not a judgment for those of us who are forty eight, never been 306 00:20:49.319 --> 00:20:53.480 married. But if you gotta know why, you gotta have an answer. 307 00:20:53.960 --> 00:20:57.200 His answers can't just be like have him met the right one, because clearly 308 00:20:57.240 --> 00:21:03.119 he needed one that was a jew Wish one and a mom. It's weird 309 00:21:03.200 --> 00:21:06.720 they had I want to know if they'd ever met the mother. Clearly she's 310 00:21:06.720 --> 00:21:08.920 close to him, Lila. Have you had you ever met the mother? 311 00:21:10.039 --> 00:21:12.119 Like, had you ever been introduced? I kind of want to know that. 312 00:21:12.559 --> 00:21:15.079 And what did he tell the mother? I mean, I wouldn't be 313 00:21:15.160 --> 00:21:19.720 surprised if they had met, And maybe that's gave her even more ammunition and 314 00:21:19.880 --> 00:21:26.240 like fire to be like Mary and not that one. What kind of name 315 00:21:26.279 --> 00:21:33.839 is Lila? We're just assuming. She definitely that sucks, but I think 316 00:21:33.880 --> 00:21:36.400 you're fine. Yeah, that's a weird one. A forty eight year old 317 00:21:36.440 --> 00:21:38.720 guy has his mother dump you. That's fucked up. Sorry about that. 318 00:21:38.839 --> 00:21:44.200 Yeah, sorry, lie all right. Next one Emily from Colorado Springs. 319 00:21:45.400 --> 00:21:47.920 So he says he has to go away for a business trip. It was 320 00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:52.599 weird because he was a local meat distributor, never one time in three years 321 00:21:52.680 --> 00:21:56.359 had a business trip. He packs two suitcases for what was supposed to be 322 00:21:56.440 --> 00:21:59.720 two days in Saint Louis. He said he needed a second suitcase in case 323 00:21:59.759 --> 00:22:03.240 he had to bring back supplies. Anyway. I never heard from him again, 324 00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:06.759 called his family, called his friends one time. Four months later, 325 00:22:06.920 --> 00:22:10.400 he liked one of my social media posts, so I know he wasn't dead, 326 00:22:10.880 --> 00:22:14.160 not even like a heart or a comment, just alike, two years 327 00:22:14.160 --> 00:22:18.160 out the window, without a second thought, just a second suitcase. That 328 00:22:18.319 --> 00:22:22.839 is so bizarre. That's so bizarre. I've never heard of anything like that 329 00:22:22.880 --> 00:22:30.039 before. That's so fucked up. She clearly had questions. The behavior was 330 00:22:30.119 --> 00:22:34.839 weird even before. Do we assume he went away. It doesn't sound like 331 00:22:34.880 --> 00:22:38.480 he was going away on like some romantic trip, because he wouldn't have brought 332 00:22:38.480 --> 00:22:41.680 two suitcase. He's just like I'm He's like, I'm going out. I'm 333 00:22:42.079 --> 00:22:47.039 getting out of this life and starting a new one. Liking the social media 334 00:22:47.079 --> 00:22:49.039 post was his way of setting up a flare like I miss you four months 335 00:22:49.119 --> 00:22:55.240 later like maybe I fuck? What is that guilt? Guilt? Or okay? 336 00:22:55.680 --> 00:22:57.400 Making sure she's okay? What is that that's the guilt? Have you 337 00:22:57.440 --> 00:23:00.920 had somebody do that? If you had an X been like, no, 338 00:23:00.720 --> 00:23:03.720 never commented on a post. No. But I'm not a big like social 339 00:23:03.720 --> 00:23:07.759 media person, So why would you feel about that? If they like liked 340 00:23:07.759 --> 00:23:08.440 a song, would you be like, oh my god, they still think 341 00:23:08.480 --> 00:23:12.799 about me? Um, I would be confused, and then I would be 342 00:23:14.200 --> 00:23:15.680 yeah, and then I would probably just analyze the crap out of it and 343 00:23:15.720 --> 00:23:21.000 then come down to yeah, either that is the weird thing. She said, 344 00:23:21.000 --> 00:23:22.480 like I knew he wasn't dead. That's your first thought. It's like 345 00:23:22.559 --> 00:23:27.599 what happened? And you're probably frantically calling around, right, I mean somebody 346 00:23:27.599 --> 00:23:30.240 who leaves and you don't want to hear from them. You've been in three 347 00:23:30.319 --> 00:23:34.960 years? That three years in a relationship that somebody who was on this podcast 348 00:23:36.039 --> 00:23:37.559 a couple of years ago. I'll say her name is Jenny. She had 349 00:23:37.599 --> 00:23:42.559 that happened. She was dating somebody for like seven eight years, flat out 350 00:23:42.559 --> 00:23:47.039 ghost whoa And she knew people who knew him and they're like, yeah, 351 00:23:47.079 --> 00:23:52.079 no, he's fine. Just never like tried for a month hard. I 352 00:23:52.119 --> 00:23:53.839 was going to say, did she tried a month? And that's why I 353 00:23:53.880 --> 00:23:56.839 want to Emily from College Springs. I want to know she said called his 354 00:23:56.880 --> 00:24:00.480 family, called his friends. Clearly she must have called him a thousand times 355 00:24:00.720 --> 00:24:07.279 just tuning that out. Can you imagine that level of that takes balls not 356 00:24:07.359 --> 00:24:11.359 a good way. Yeah, but just like la la la, I'm gonna 357 00:24:11.400 --> 00:24:14.559 just ignore you, yeah, for three years. But it doesn't sound like 358 00:24:14.599 --> 00:24:18.319 he like ran away with another woman. He's just like I'm out. I 359 00:24:18.359 --> 00:24:21.400 mean that it sounds didn't he have to come back to his job? Maybe 360 00:24:21.440 --> 00:24:23.960 he did. Did she go down to the local meat point? Did she 361 00:24:25.079 --> 00:24:27.720 say like, like, at some point you kind of have to confront them, 362 00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:34.160 right, you know? I just I would that be we talk about 363 00:24:34.200 --> 00:24:37.559 how you're like you're never gonna get closure on the show, we talked about 364 00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:40.640 that all the time. Something like that. I would want to be like, 365 00:24:40.680 --> 00:24:42.480 what the fuck all of these A little bit. I want to be 366 00:24:42.519 --> 00:24:45.799 like, what the I would want a little bit more then, but I 367 00:24:45.799 --> 00:24:48.200 don't know what I'm gonna get, right, we get this's gonna make me 368 00:24:48.240 --> 00:24:51.559 feel better. Well, so far, I've been thinking like, of course 369 00:24:51.599 --> 00:24:53.759 I would want closure on all of these two but so far it sounds like 370 00:24:53.880 --> 00:25:00.200 everybody has dodged a bullet. Yeah, if somebody does this, like you 371 00:25:00.480 --> 00:25:03.680 wasted three years or you know, wasted is probably the wrong word. You 372 00:25:03.720 --> 00:25:07.359 got something out of it, and good you could have been all of these 373 00:25:07.400 --> 00:25:10.480 you could have been ten years and two kids later. Yeah, yeah, 374 00:25:10.519 --> 00:25:12.720 you know. And that's the closure though, is just knowing that none of 375 00:25:12.720 --> 00:25:15.160 these were and we got a few of them, but none of the ones 376 00:25:15.200 --> 00:25:19.400 we chose here were divorced stories. They're just flat out breakup. A lot 377 00:25:19.440 --> 00:25:23.599 of this has to be we're always bad communicators in the relationships, so it's 378 00:25:23.640 --> 00:25:29.279 not really surprising that you're bad getting out of it. I've had that happened, 379 00:25:29.319 --> 00:25:30.880 like somebody either texted me or emailed me or something, and I felt 380 00:25:30.920 --> 00:25:33.880 like, what the fuck? You can't call me? But I'm not sure 381 00:25:33.880 --> 00:25:37.519 I would be any better. I don't know. Yeah, what's the worst 382 00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:42.559 way you've broken up with someone. I'm not a good person at that either. 383 00:25:42.599 --> 00:25:47.839 I was sort of like the slow fade out kind of okay, But 384 00:25:47.960 --> 00:25:52.599 the worst way I've ever broken up with somebody was I think I told them 385 00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:57.960 that, wait, we were dating. I thought we were just hanging out. 386 00:25:59.319 --> 00:26:03.400 Oh my, So I like, I don't need to because they're like, 387 00:26:03.480 --> 00:26:03.880 you break up with me. I'm like, no, we don't. 388 00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:07.000 And I was like twenty five, I'm like, we don't need to break 389 00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:11.519 up because officially we weren't really And she's like, what are you talking about? 390 00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:12.839 Like it was like a year, and I'm like, well, how 391 00:26:12.839 --> 00:26:17.720 many times did we really go out? Oh my god, that's twenty five 392 00:26:17.799 --> 00:26:19.279 year o Brian, don't judge, okay, but it was something like that 393 00:26:19.279 --> 00:26:22.799 that I would trying to I would diminish what we had, so it made 394 00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:26.960 it seem like what do you miss it? Anyway? So almost like chicken 395 00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:30.319 fingers. Yeah. So then she's thinking the whole time, like, was 396 00:26:30.359 --> 00:26:33.359 I crazy? You were my boyfriend? And I was like, what are 397 00:26:33.359 --> 00:26:37.279 you talking about? Oh? Yeah, looking back, that was probably not 398 00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:42.119 the strategy. That was really not fair. Sorry Caroline, Sorry, um, 399 00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:45.680 yeah, it was that it was if I make it seem like it's 400 00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:48.799 not such a big deal that we're not going to see each other anymore. 401 00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:51.960 That was my strategy. Okay, And today, if you had to break 402 00:26:52.039 --> 00:26:56.920 up with somebody, how would you do it? Um, I don't know. 403 00:26:57.079 --> 00:27:00.640 I don't think I would want to that. See, I don't even 404 00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:03.799 like to think about it, because thinking about the end of something that you 405 00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:07.920 at least at one point had the the I think if it was going to 406 00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:11.400 happen, it would happen in couples therapy. Okay. I think I would 407 00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:15.319 want to do in the presence of an arbiter safe safe space. Well, 408 00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:18.480 somebody who could help me get through the conversation. Yeah, probably like can 409 00:27:18.519 --> 00:27:22.920 you help us to navigate? Yeah, which is probably a wise way to 410 00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:26.680 do it, right, Like, because you should if you if you're in 411 00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:29.720 a serious relationship and you're feeling something, I think it's a good idea to 412 00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:33.440 bring in somebody to help you with communication. Yeah. And that person might 413 00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:37.359 like walk you through the paperwork, walk you through the division of assets, 414 00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:40.880 whatever, like here's how you guys are going to go your separate ways, 415 00:27:40.920 --> 00:27:42.400 or they might point out like you guys aren't right for each other, you 416 00:27:42.440 --> 00:27:45.720 know, or something like that. Yeah, I think I would do that. 417 00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:48.599 Okay, is that Okay, that's great. I'm a surprised. I 418 00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:52.000 don't know if that's more of a pussy move than anything. No, I 419 00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:56.000 think it's Jewish mother, No, not at all that you should dump. 420 00:27:59.079 --> 00:28:02.839 Um. Yeah, I think you know at this point, like you'd want 421 00:28:02.839 --> 00:28:06.000 to. I would want to exhaust every option if you got into a meaningful 422 00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:08.319 road, yeah or whatever. Absolutely, we clearly had something that you I'm 423 00:28:08.359 --> 00:28:11.240 just going to throw away over Greenland. I would want to go all the 424 00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:15.319 way down the road to figure out what was was real here, because I 425 00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:19.720 think if you cared, you cared. Yeah, Okay, Um, that 426 00:28:19.799 --> 00:28:22.839 was good. Yeah, that was good. Did you have one that you 427 00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:26.640 think that you could have handled better at some point one of the breakups, 428 00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:30.640 one of your own breakups, one of my Boston one of these fellows off 429 00:28:30.680 --> 00:28:32.920 the side of the road. Is there one that you're like, you know 430 00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:34.079 what, the relationship wasn't good, but I probably could have handled that better. 431 00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:40.720 Yeah, I think that. Well, there was one guy that I 432 00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:45.000 kind of like kind of cheated on him because and I say kind of because 433 00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:48.200 it was just making out a little bit pregnant. It was just making out, 434 00:28:48.559 --> 00:28:52.359 okay, But I didn't tell I told him like two days later about 435 00:28:52.359 --> 00:28:55.079 what happened. Told him. I told him, were you in like Mexico 436 00:28:55.599 --> 00:28:57.839 like a spring break thing? No, I wasn't. I was like in 437 00:28:59.079 --> 00:29:06.079 Arizona. Oh, and he was so you geographically, I think that it 438 00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:11.200 does it? Does it? Spring? I was working Magic Mike Show and 439 00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:15.240 got out. Yeah. It was working yeah, the waiter or something. 440 00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:18.400 It was my boss at the time. Oh Jesus, Okay, I know. 441 00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:23.759 And you told him though, I told him yeah, and then um 442 00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:26.799 we ended up. Well. He wanted to like stay together and try and 443 00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:32.079 work it out, and I was like, but I like this other guy, 444 00:29:33.119 --> 00:29:36.319 so anyway the way I can work like I made out. I'm sorry, 445 00:29:36.359 --> 00:29:37.319 You're like, I made out and I'd like to do more with him? 446 00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:45.440 Yeah, why tell her many of it? Why did you do that? 447 00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:48.599 Because I had to come clean. I'm too honest. I couldn't break 448 00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:52.039 up. And then, like you were telling him, knowing you were going 449 00:29:52.119 --> 00:29:55.079 to break up, you were saying, yeah, I did, and I 450 00:29:55.119 --> 00:29:57.359 would like to do more, and I thank you. I didn't think I 451 00:29:57.400 --> 00:30:00.880 really knew. I hadn't thought that far ahead. Yeah, I think. 452 00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:04.079 Well, I think where I could have where it could have done better is 453 00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:07.759 just like as it was leading up to that point where we made out, 454 00:30:08.079 --> 00:30:11.640 Like I knew that I didn't want to be with this guy anyway, you 455 00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:15.319 know, and so I should have just like broken up with him and then 456 00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:18.839 and then made out a little bit and then made Yeah, there was a 457 00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:22.279 little guy alert you you jumped the gun, Yeah, exactly. Yeah, 458 00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:25.960 that's not good. Yeah, but looking back, you do feel bad about 459 00:30:25.960 --> 00:30:27.799 it? Okay. Yeah, so you told him that you made out as 460 00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:30.480 a way of telling him you want to do more. Yeah, I guess. 461 00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:33.119 So it wasn't guilt ridden, like please take me back. No, 462 00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:41.519 it's like, please let me go. All right, this was fun bringing 463 00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:44.000 up. It's hard to do. It is, no matter how you do 464 00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:48.039 it. Um as far as us UM like share Fallow, please review this 465 00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:52.000 podcast. Where can people listen to you sing songs on Spotify? Yeah? 466 00:30:52.119 --> 00:30:57.920 Lanciano that's my artist's name, why a Lanciano? And I can just hear 467 00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:02.440 you're just singing. They can just hear me seeing or on the how. 468 00:31:02.680 --> 00:31:07.319 But I wanted to do more, so I let him go. Sorry, 469 00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:11.960 that's sorry. I dumped him over Greenland, and then I have my Jewish 470 00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:17.119 father saying sorry, Okay, we're gonna record, We're gona do a duet. 471 00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:19.440 Um shoot us an email. You can still do. 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