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I cannot say that I'm enlightened.
I can say that I'm curious, and

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because of my curiosity, I'm very
open to learn and to experiment, and

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to accept and to realize everything that
I don't know. I think realizing that

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is part of the enlightenment. Realizing
that you don't know you know, and

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what you may have believed to be
an absolute truth isn't necessarily an absolute truth.

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I used to be afraid of dying, and I'm not now now.

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Okay, let me rephrase that I'm
afraid of the process. I don't want

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it to hurt, you know.
Yes, I have a healthy fear of

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that, But after that, I
have no fear. I believe that we

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create our own reality, and in
my reality there is no hell, there

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is no devil, so that doesn't
exist here. Why would that exist in

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what I call a spiritual plane of
love? So I enlightenment, I can't.

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I'm not an expert on that.
I can just tell you my experience.

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And like I said, it's about
being curious and about understanding that other

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people have those curiosities as well,
and trying to bring those together in a

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safe place. Yeah, that's a
tough question to answer. But here's my

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thoughts. Indian culture has seen a
number of enlightened masters, and some of

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them have actually made it across to
the West as well and have tried to

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show us the way to be enlightened. For lack of a better word,

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but to me, enlightenment is the
ability to surrender and be a part of

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the universe. When you mentioned is
it power, is it money? All

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that, it comes right back to
control. It comes back to fear.

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It's fear of not having enough money. It's fear of if I don't control

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my environment, things are going to
happen to me. I don't want to

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happen to me. Things like that. An enlightened being is someone that understands

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that the universe is going to provide
exactly what you need at the exact moment

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in which you needed. And the
act of surrendering to that knowledge is the

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act of enlightenment because then you no
longer have to fear or control. You

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no longer have to live thinking that
we are living in scarcity because you know

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that the universe will provide. Now, sometimes we're on this planet to have

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experiences, to go through things in
order for us to truly understand ourselves,

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and sometimes experiences happen they're contrary to
what we would hope would happen because there's

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a reason behind it. There is
something that we need to go through experience

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in order to come out on the
other side and become much better, much

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bigger person than we Wereperience, for
example, is a perfect example of that.

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When I went through my existential crisis, I had to go through a

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period of time where I hated myself. I had made awful decisions and affected

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people that I loved because of traumas
that I had in my past. But

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ultimately it was decisions that I made
that were not the right decisions for me

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at the time. Because I was
trying to solve a wound, solve for

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that little boy who was hurt back
in his childhood, and because I was

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living in constant fear the time without
realizing it, I made decisions that were

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not good for me. And when
I learned to let go of that fear

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and process bring these emotions out,
work through them, work through them.

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And it is a difficult process to
go through, but I do believe,

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I know that I am a way
better person now having gone through that experience

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than I could ever have hoped to
have been had I not gone through that

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traumatic experience, the act of going
through it and processing it and working my

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way over it, and that's what
made me the man that I am today,

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and I hope to continue down that
road. And so now I'm I'm

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a human being and things happen our
contract to what I want to happen.

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That's no, I didn't want to
not get that job. Well, there's

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a reason for that, and the
reason might be that I'm too stuck in

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my ego. I need to let
that go. I need to be more

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humble and understand that the right thing
is going to come. The universe is

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always going to say, don't worry, the right thing is coming as long

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as you live in the right way. And that's what I'm trying to focus

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