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From the Mac of All Trade Studio
in Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler Dots,

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Jupe Ram It's bilified the Bill Moran
Podcast. Hello Twitter World, Oh

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hey, bridicads, here's truly here. Will we ever hear that again?

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Next World, cold Ex World.
That's all right, Uh, already texts

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coming in all day long. Things
have been coming. But just before we

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got on the just before we went
on the air, we're on the podcast,

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I should say, fired it up, fired up the cylinders. I

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did get a message from someone saying, I am so excited to hear you

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talk about O. J. Simpson. Somebody else said he had a real

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love hate relationship with O J.
Simpson, and I would say that that's

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probably true. Why are we hearing
more than one thing I just met?

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You got something to run into the
background, Okay, I don't know what

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that would be. Man, It's
it's so weird to me because there were

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so many things that happened today that
are sort of this parallel to O J.

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Simpson. I'll just say this,
Uh, you're gonna hear about O

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J. Simpson everywhere. Everywhere you
turn, You're going to find and hear

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about OJ. But I think that
we'll have maybe a different look at at

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O. J. Simpson throughout the
uh looking forward to this podcast. I

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mean I sent you the text like
literally like a minute, I'm on Twitter

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all of a sudden, Well you
were the first this tweet podcast from OJ

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Simpson. I hadn't seen anything,
and I'm like, whoa, and I

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send it to you. Yeah,
and I'm like, hey, uh,

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thanks for the text deck. Well, I mean I figured you'd figure it

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out. Well, you're the king
of memes and stuff, so I figured

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you probably get all the juice memes
like lined up and ready to go.

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All they're ready. So but I
I mean OJ was a big part of

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my childhood growing up, first watching
him as a Bills fan, because when

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the Bills were on the rise,
he was working at NBC Sports and he

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was Buffalo's biggest ambassador, not just
for the Bills but for the city of

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Buffalo. I mean, this is
a rest belt city that was dying,

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and OJ Simpson made it sound like
Buffalo, even though his actions didn't speak

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the same way. He made it
sound like Buffalo was like the greatest place

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in the world, and he was
Buffalo's ticket to the big time. He

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really was before Kelly, before the
anything. He's the one. He's a

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big reason why we still have the
Bills, O J. Simpson and then

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all of a sudden June twelfth,
nineteen ninety four, he throws it all

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away, allegedly. And then can
you imagine the nineties without the O J.

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Simpsons fiasco? What would the nineties
be defined by just the Clintons maybe,

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or would also be or the Internet? The Internet the Clintons, I

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think you could also say grunge.
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a couple of years. I think
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The Times that's gonna come out Saturday, I said, the nineties were really

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defined by three things. The Clinton's
being in the White House, both of

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them right, the Internet because it
changed everything. And OJ Simpson. Yeah,

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the O J. Simpson. O
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think at one point in America you
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and said OJ, and I think
they would have known who you were talking

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about. OJ. Simpson was a
beloved athlete. He was a great college

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athlete, Heisman Trophy winner, goes
on to the Buffalo Bills, it's all

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kinds of records. Retires with his
hometown team, the San Francisco forty nine

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Ers. He's a Bay guy.
He goes on to be a broadcaster,

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he goes on to do comedy.
He's I think it was Jeff Ross put

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up there. This one really hurts
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he did the Isitner gloves, he
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And I think that that trial you
can look at from so many socio

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I'll call it sociological aspects. In
terms of reality television. I really think

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it was sort of the birth of
reality television that people were glued to that

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trial twenty four to seven. Most
people remember exactly where they were when the

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verdict came down. Oh yeah,
I do. And I think you can

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also see the racial divide in this
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I think you can talk about domestic
violence being swept under the rug. I

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think that all those things became I
mean, those are the things that still

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plague us today. They really are. And when you go back whether or

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not he did it, and I'm
gonna I can play you a former juror

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who says you didn't get to see
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But you know, you'll read articles
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on the internet and from various news. Somebody said, look, I worked

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for the Miami Herald. Every white
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black person cheered in the newsroom.
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a few months prior to the to
that whole thing with OJ, or just

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a few years prior. Excuse me, you had the Rodney King deal where

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the police beat the shit out of
this guy, and then people rioted in

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the city after that. So you
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such a hotbit. And Mark Furman
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trial. I mean, when you
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out of it, just on the
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really did. I mean it brought
it brought a lot to light. And

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I remember coming home from school every
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because like she was something to look
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day at noon, because they're on
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CNN would have it, and then
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we got to move to E they'd
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oh yeah, courtees okay, and
which was basically kind of reality TV,

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the Menendez brothers trial and then William
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CNN was like showing like trials beforecause
they had to cover something was twenty

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four hour news. But OJ's what
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of led to reality TV, not
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one when people will go away,
hang on a second, we need to

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make a money off this. It
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well, the Real the Real World
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ninety two, they had the Real
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LA, then Real World San Francisco. Yeah, but I mean that wasn't

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as widespread as Court TV or Cops
I mean cops from something the networks.

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the gen x lexicon for young people, you know, saying like reality shows

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like Survivors were spawned off OJ.
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like A ninety eight is when Survivor
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oh wow, this is a competition
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it's just uh, it's crazy.
Now here is that piece that we

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played before. It's so weird because
we've had a lot of conversations about OJ

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on this podcast over the years.
I have been fascinated, absolutely fascinated by

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OJ Simpson. Oh me too,
fascinated is capatonia. You're obsessed with OJ,

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Dan, I'm done trying to book
him to just so I'm not obsessed

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with OJ. But I'm like,
I'm fascinated that you could be. I

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mean, the only thing I can
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but that is as close to it
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To go from beloved to pariah,
beloved to pariah in a nanosecond, it

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seems like. But but again,
I think that it's a it's a very

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big thing. Like all the domestic
abuse that came out, all the domestic

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violence that came out between he and
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We didn't know it was kind of
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was. It was reported but quietly
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like, there's fuj, he's OJ. We love OJ. Yeah,

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we know this guy. It's uncle
Juice, right, he ain't gonna hurt

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the old body. It was even
on television, remember that show uh with

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Roy Firestone called First Look or Sports
Look whatever, Yeah, and then became

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later known as Up Closed. It
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and he's talking with OJ about it
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like why are you bringing this up? And you could see Roy Firestone backpedaling.

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But it's New Year's Eve and you've
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brings it up, but then he
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Oj kind of oj' splain away.
What happened that this is long before ninety

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four. Oh the Murderers was the
violent Yeah, And they showed this Made

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in America documentary by Ezra Edelman that
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OJ with the reporter that we had
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had walked around That was with the
one piece that always annoyed me, and

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I'm sure other people see it and
go, well, yeah, good for

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that woman. I think it was
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him out in public, and some
lady walks up and goes, I always

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might to shake the hand of a
murderer, And I go, you're such

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a narcissistic bitch because you did nothing. He did absolutely nothing to change the

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world. He did nothing to make
the Goldman family feel better, the Brown

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family feeling You just made yourself feel
better, and you can brag to your

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friends you're a narcissist. But in
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the piece where he comes at the
woman faking with a banana when she answers

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the doord, this is how it
actually unfolded in that piece. If you

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promise is that you will not ask
me another question about to ask you again,

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we won't have to talk about it
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No? I didn't, No,
I didn't know. I did not

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do it. Okay, Now,
after we finished filming, OJ said to

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me that he had a surprise for
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I think it was his idea of
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She knocks on the door and he
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that's him making that noise, Like, how can you Here's the thing,

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at one point in time, you
loved Nicole Brown Simpson, or you

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or or you at least liked her, Okay, let's put it that way,

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and you have children with her.
To even joke about, I couldn't

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imagine you would. You're accused of
this, do you understand, and you

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go on trial for it, you
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to be not guilty, so you
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light of it. No, I
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the fact that you did it and
you know it, and you resigned the

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fact that everybody else knows you did
it. Well, I mean, somebody

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sent me like right after you,
So you hit me before I saw any

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news outlets. You were first before
Dan Burillo an X he saw it.

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He sent it to me, and
I texted Greg Connors and I texted Peter

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Montimrno. Peter's like, I don't
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what do you mean? But he
goes, No, I'm conflicted about

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it because he goes. I really
got into the trial. I went to

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the house where it happened. I
read the books about it, you know,

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and it's like, that's what he
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I have no doubt that he did
it. It's awful, But it's like

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I paid so much attention to this, and I'm wondering, should I have

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somebody I feel the same way.
I had a conversation with Greg about it

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too, more of along the lines
of will the Bills put out a statement

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They can't. I don't think they
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He said, unless they can't do
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it for any player. And I
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then they can't do it for Jim
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They will, I remember, it
will for those guys. They won't

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for I. Remember this is this
is OJ is not even gonna be we

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talked about, but he's been on
their wall of fame. He won't.

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He won't be on their new here
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I remember when OJ got off,
they went to the stadium all the

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news outlets went to the stadium.
Now it's during the NFL season, it

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was during the ninety five season,
and they asked Kelly, they asked certain

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players what they had to say.
Kelly goes, I'm glad OJ got off,

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like that's that's what that's what Kelly
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issued a two words statement no comment. Yeah, because you can't.

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OJ was on the sidelines for a
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them, like ninety two, ninety
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now this happens, and I don't
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and you're never gonna know one way
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back to games. It has been
perplexing to me because to see people pose

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with him. A lot of people
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know, we're even born when he
when this heinous, oh yeah, blonde

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white women, and it's a very
it's just a very very strange deal to

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me. I you mentioned that my
cousins did security for the Bills during that

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era when when the Bills were on
there when they're Heyday and and they and

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OJ and NBC would come to cover
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four years that they went to the
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a wildcard team. They were on
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one of them, and he said, the shocking thing this is like,

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this is about five months before the
murders happened. They're watching it. So

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OJ goes, I pick of the
Bills to win. Of course, a

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pick of the Bills. Why would
that pick the Bills? After the cameras

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go off. They gotta remember his
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Mark and the Bills have had their
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that doesn't sound like the OJA that
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And this is like months before.
Are the Bills now closer to the

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Super Bowl? Now at the curse
of the Jews? So that and I

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saw Tom Brady on some social media
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to win their first Super Bowl and
he said Josh Allen. I really like

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Josh Allen. I like the way
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leads. I think he's the guy
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My homes is tough, but I
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he said. So maybe maybe you're
right. Maybe this is maybe this is

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the thing I did see somebody say
they actually got to meet OJ the friday

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before Nicole was killed. I worked
three days before. Yeah, the week

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was. She died on a Sunday
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two, it's like four. I
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the board of directors of Swiss Army
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I actually had to make him a
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specifically for his role in the Third
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so after that, the FBI was
all over the building. That's what I'll

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remember about OJ. That's their up. That's what I'll remember. I just

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got the update that Cancer has been
acquitted in the murder of O. J.

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Simpson's He got off, Cancer got
Off. Here is the final OJ.

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This is the final OJ. On
X February eleventh, Hey, X,

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world is me? You's truly boy? What a beautiful day it is?

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Here in Las Vegas. Even though
the game is indoors, it wouldn't

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matter, but still it's nice to
have a beautiful day like this. Hey,

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let me take a moment say thank
you to all the people who've reached

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out to me. My health is
good. I mean, obviously I'm dealing

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with some issues, but hey,
I think I'm us about overritten. I'll

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be back on that golf course hopefully
in a couple of weeks. But it

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was very nice hearing from you and
here and those good positive words. Thank

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you. Now, as far as
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and it's not hope. I'm basing
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see a twenty four to twenty win
by the forty nine ers. That's not

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hope. I'm basing that on the
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football field. So who's going to
be m VP? Prody? I mean

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Prody? Does somebody scream in the
background like they're playing golf? Did you

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hear it this sounding you got a
bad shot for? They screamed, fuck,

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I swear it's hurt. And then
does it just just about over it?

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Two months? Yeah? Yeah,
and here here he is two days

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prior to that. Hey, ex
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I'm not in hospital. No you're
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not. So it's funny. The
forty nine ers last Super Bowl championship was

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when he was in jail awaiting or
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trial, yeah for the murder.
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championship was in the ninety four season
Super Bowl twenty nine. That was the

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first time the Bills didn't go in
those four years. All right, that's

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you know, that's when the snee
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been to three Super Bowls and they've
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Yeah, they did lose them all. That was the one they beat

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up on San Diego. Just beat
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trial, at least in my mind, was the constant barrage of jokes on

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Saturday Night Live from one Norm MacDonald
The Weekend Update. According to retailers,

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the most popular Halloween mass this year
is O. J. Simpson and the

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most popular Halloween greeting is I'll kill
you and that guy who's bringing over your

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glasses or treats? And the Pope
came out of the book this week,

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which contains a series of essays examining
faith and morality in today's secular world and

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the changing role of the Catholic Church
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The book is entitled God Himself told
me that OJ is Guilty. It's a

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series. You can go on X
and find a ten minute reel of Norm

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McDonald's just doing every joke. I
think the title with Meadows. He's doing

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the telestrator. Yeah, yeah,
drawn off the plane. It smells.

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I did it. I stumbled across
that one. Remember when Steve Tasker was

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parodied on on Saturday Night Live That
staffood in the Super Bowl and the power

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went out and they and he was
a sideline reporter for CBS. So I

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asked him we had him on the
show. When I was working with Scott

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Potniak, I said, Hey,
what's it like to be parodied on SNL?

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and then, of course, you

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know, you come across the other
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aren't a lot, and even that
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or Will Ferrell's playing Marv Levy,
somebody else is playing, like Tim Meadows

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is playing OJ describing how he did
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mentioned the whole thing with Norm McDonald, and people believe that's why he got

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fired from SNL was because yeah,
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this bit of info. But now
that they're both dead. This is Tim

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Graham from the Athletic Tweeting. In
my reporting on OJ, I was shown

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direct messages from Norm McDonald twitter account
asking OJ to play golf with him at

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Kenya Gate while in town for the
twenty nineteen World Series of Poker by be

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Bygones. Norms said Norm's first offer
was to do a scripted bit and then

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just to play for laughs. But
they never did get together. I'm told

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although OJ was going to do Norm's
podcast. Yeah, I mean that would

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have been really interesting and really interesting
to know. And I don't doubt that

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we had Tim Graham on. I've
been reaching out and bugging them all day,

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and I know he's got a lot
of deadline it's and a lot of

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things to write, and I would
think he maybe the guy OJ talked to

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the most in one on one interview. Yes, is that possible? Yeah?

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Tim Graham has interviewed him at least
three or four times and told us on

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this podcast, and he had never
said it before, was that OJ wanted

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to do his own podcast with Tim
Graham interviewing him more or less because he

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felt he could trust him. And
Tim wrote, and some people will tell

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you Tim is a sensational writer.
I thought he wrote very colorful. I

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wouldn't call it sensational. I would
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so it almost feels like you are
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factual, yes, factual unfair,
Yeah, you can't. You can't find

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I think, but you can't find
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Uh, we'll we'll take a moment
that today I here. We do a

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lot of different projects here and one
of them is the cop cast for the

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Fairport Police. They came over and
asked if I would do, and so

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we do today. They had a
ninety eight year old man and his name

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is Jack Foy. Jack was in
the Battle of the Bulge and he served

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in World War two and it was
just an interesting conversation to hear. I

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pulled a clip because it all I
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is being taped this morning, Dan
sends me the thing. And then probably

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two to three minutes after, I
get the text from Dan that Ojay's dead.

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Now I'm getting you know, it's
ABC, it's Fox, it's this.

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So everybody's now either confirming or finding
out that og Simpson had died.

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And it's just something that I have
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of confirms what I think. And
you know, you'll hear it and we'll

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get into it. We'll do that
next. But bTB would fire pizza and

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You know who loved the Masters?
What it happened to be this guy?

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Hey, hey, x Will it's
me, Oh Jason, you know

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I should have played the Masters,
but I decided to go to USC and

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play football. We will get to
uh, well, we'll get to this

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interesting conversation with a ninety eight year
old man who himself is from Greece.

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We'll get to that next, but
first come, Oh, Connors and Paris

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what we do. He's an adult
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we just want to be a little
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Okay, we just want to be
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women can't laugh at this right now
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say, oh boy, I God, I'm not being shallow. Okay,

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if you lined up my exes,
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see, no no reason. New
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they playing in uh the parent in
Ball this year? No. The only

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thing I've heard is pigeons playing ping
pong. Yeah, I know of a

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bunch of shows and I haven't heard
Collective Soul, but it would be great.

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It was a fantastic spot for I've
heard of several shows for that venue,

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and I don't know why I thought
Collective Soul was in that thing.

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There's a they got a pretty decent
lineup with some stuff that they're out with

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this summer again. Yeah, OK, so that probably won't be the uh

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hey, you never know. You
can day here or there. Yeah,

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well the managements from here and I've
always enjoyed them. All right, Just

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a few more things on the uh
the O J. Simpson stuff that's been

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everywhere and all over the place.
O J. Simpson according to the New

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York Post, well not them,
but they have a story that says he

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once bragged about a sexual encounter with
Chris Jenner. I remember this, OJ

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said, He's so. According to
this story, and it went to page

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six, I guess Robert Kardashian had
gone to bed, and Nicole S.

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Brown Simpson had gone to bed as
well, and so OJ and Chris Jenner

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are in a hot tub, and
OJ bragged that he stood up, pulled

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his shorts down, and he said, I'll give you exactly what he said.

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Quote. Her eyes bugged out of
her head, and then I fucked

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that bitch until I broke her back. Wow. Nine months later Kim was

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born. Well that was with Chloe. Chloe, So Chloe's uh, all

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our social media have been flooded with
condolences and the loss of your fun.

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She's so terrible. It's terrible,
Like you go, how how are his

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kids? Like, how did his
kids have the kids that he had with

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Nicole Brown Simpson? Did they ever
have any who knows? Yeah, I

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don't know what kind of relationship they
had with him. I mean, because

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you got to remember he did go
to jail for the for the kidnapping for

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what nine years? Nine years,
which is absolutely would never happen to anybody,

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but it was one way. So
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looked up because you're curious, like
how did the kids turn out? And

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like the one daughter doesn't look she
doesn't look good. She just just doesn't

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look like she took care. She's
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in some ways. The youngest girl, Sidney, Yeah, Sydney. I

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mean it's it's awful. But I
mean, like, you've had such a

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chaotic childhood that wasn't your fault,
and yet everywhere you go you got to

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carry your father's legacy with you,
regardless of whether you had anything to do

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with it. It's just, it's
just it's just so tragic. It's too

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bad that you become hardened me because
of it. Sure you do well,

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everywhere you go, you're gonna get
a question about it. I think,

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like the you wish that you could
say to somebody that is not representative of

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you, like this doesn't mean anything
to you, but your mom's gone,

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and that's the biggest thing. I
mean. I saw something today where the

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difference between questions sons ask moms versus
they asked what they asked dads. Mom's

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mom? Do you know where my
homework is? Mom? Where my pants?

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Mom? Is there any snacks?
Mom? What times dinner? Mom?

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What's for dinner? And then all
of a sudden, Dad, where's

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Mom? I mean, I mean
that it kind of just shows you.

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I don't think that that's exactly true, however, I would think bombs are

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the most the most important, and
the sad part was that they were in

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the house when it happened. Yes, they were in the house when I

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forgot that. Do you think with
him passing now anything new will come out?

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Like? Is there like that heralo
somewhere? I have always wondered,

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I've always always wondered, and that
and that'll lead us to this interview with

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Jack Foy. I have always wondered, are human beings really capable of keeping

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a secret? Does everybody have something
that gnaws at them so much that they

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just tell like one or one person
or somebody? And was that Al Collings?

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Al Calling's dead, he's still so
well, But would you believe Al

405
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:56,680
Collings if he came out and said
I don't think he'd ever would because I

406
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,759
think they're I think we would kill
him, but I don't know. I

407
00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:07,079
look, I told you earlier that
there was a jur and I think this

408
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,759
might be the juror here you see
those reactions Trump motion, and you got

409
00:30:11,759 --> 00:30:15,200
people screaming and cheering, people shaking
their heads, some people were in tears

410
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,559
over it. Now, all of
these years later, what do you think

411
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:26,119
about the decision? And now Oj
Simpson we've been talking about parole and sort

412
00:30:26,119 --> 00:30:29,119
of his future. We've seen how
things kind of played out after the trial.

413
00:30:29,359 --> 00:30:32,480
What do you think about your decision
now and the way that the country

414
00:30:32,519 --> 00:30:37,640
reacted to it? Well? Again, and I will always defend the decision

415
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:42,079
itself that it was always based on
evidences presented at the trial, and so

416
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:52,759
based on that. I never had
any qualms or any misgivings about the decision

417
00:30:52,799 --> 00:30:56,039
we made at that time. As
far as for the reaction is concerned,

418
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:03,000
I do believe that a lot of
the reaction was was media driven. As

419
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,920
far as for all the interest that
was going on in the trial at the

420
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:12,559
time and and the concentration of of
of I think the coverage was probably more

421
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:21,480
geared towards UH, indicating that he
was probably a guilty person HM. And

422
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:26,160
I I know that the two different
communities responded differently about that, of course,

423
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,599
and I'm referring to the white as
opposed to the African American communities.

424
00:31:30,119 --> 00:31:36,440
But I think it was just that
people didn't understand exactly UH all of the

425
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,880
things that were presented at trial UH. And I'm pretty sure the average person

426
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:45,240
may have seen a bit or a
piece there about the trial. Maybe those

427
00:31:45,279 --> 00:31:48,960
bits and pieces were what they used
to to make their UH decisions themselves.

428
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,640
Within themselves about it. But the
but the thing about it is, when

429
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,640
you go back to the complete picture
of the wholeness of the trial. From

430
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,000
my perspective, there was only the
one decision I that I could rent it

431
00:32:00,039 --> 00:32:02,759
render at that point. Isn't that
interesting because I'll tell you, we watched

432
00:32:02,759 --> 00:32:07,839
those documentary pieces and the lady goes, yeah, I think he was guilty,

433
00:32:07,839 --> 00:32:13,759
but I found them. Yeah,
it's funny because the information that was

434
00:32:13,799 --> 00:32:16,839
there presented to them was not the
same information that we got. You know,

435
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,799
like, there's a lot. Didn't
they have live coverage gavel to gavel

436
00:32:20,839 --> 00:32:22,799
basically, yeah, like the whole
like the whole thing with Mark Furman using

437
00:32:22,839 --> 00:32:27,480
the N word, that whole thing
being played out that the jury never saw

438
00:32:27,519 --> 00:32:31,200
that. All they got was Furman
going or pleating the Fifth Amendment. That's

439
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,000
all they got. They didn't get
the whole Did you plan any evidence?

440
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,960
I wish to assert my Fifth Amendment
privilege? So where did all that N

441
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:43,759
word stuff come from? I thought
that trial Judge edo It came out in

442
00:32:43,759 --> 00:32:46,319
the preliminary hearings, right, and
so, which eventually led to a trial.

443
00:32:46,319 --> 00:32:49,599
They didn't have a grand jury,
They had preliminary hearings, and a

444
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,480
judge at the time, which was
not Itto was a different judge, ruled

445
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,400
that this case needs to go to
court. She cited another case about it.

446
00:32:54,559 --> 00:32:57,640
So when it goes to court,
you got all this stuff about Furman

447
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,759
that's coming out that came out in
the preliminary hearings, and eat judge you

448
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,160
know who, by the way,
we have not heard from since this trial

449
00:33:02,279 --> 00:33:06,440
ended. He came out and said, I think it's in the public's best

450
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,680
interest to hear these tapes or or
on the tapes, and I will decide

451
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:13,200
whether or not they could be admitted
to evidence. And he didn't. He

452
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,279
did not admit them into evidence,
but he heard them with like I remember

453
00:33:15,359 --> 00:33:17,839
CNN, like the F word and
the N word. I'm like, holy

454
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,839
cow, I can't believe they're actually
so they put out they put it out.

455
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,839
The court like you know, allowed
the defense to put these tapes out,

456
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:29,480
and then they would argue the prosecutions
the defense whether it's relevant to the

457
00:33:29,519 --> 00:33:32,759
case. The jury never heard it. What they did see though, was

458
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:37,839
Furman that he was because he was
they could put him on the stand because

459
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:43,119
he was investigating it, and they
asked him all these questions and if you

460
00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:45,680
played the fifth to one question,
you got to plead the fifth to all

461
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,559
of them. And so and finally
f f Lee Bailey, who was working

462
00:33:49,599 --> 00:33:52,440
pro bono actually on this case,
goes and did you in fact manufacture or

463
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:57,079
plant that evidence? In this case, I wish to assert my Fifth Amendment

464
00:33:57,079 --> 00:34:01,960
privilege right and the Jersey going back
to everything plus the glove that they made

465
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:07,680
him try, which was ridiculous.
The jury had enough reasonable doubt. I'm

466
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,000
not saying, oh, they didn't
do it. He's guilty as sin,

467
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,920
but as far as the American justice
system is concerned, I understand why they

468
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,960
found him not guilty. Well,
the American justice system is something that you

469
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:21,119
know, no matter where do you
land in the world of politics, you

470
00:34:21,519 --> 00:34:24,360
want that the way it is,
God forbid you ever end up on.

471
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:29,400
You want a fair trial or as
fair trial as you can possibly get.

472
00:34:29,519 --> 00:34:31,000
And I think this is one of
the countries in the world where that can

473
00:34:31,039 --> 00:34:35,920
happen. Yes, and there are
many people who fought to keep that that

474
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:40,000
way. I just I don't you
know, it's interesting that you say that,

475
00:34:40,079 --> 00:34:45,840
because I think that at least in
the public persona where all that evidence

476
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:51,199
was available and heard and not from
a sequestered jury. I think there was

477
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,079
a real racial divide on the you
know, if you were white, you

478
00:34:54,079 --> 00:34:57,079
thought he did it. If you
were black, maybe you didn't. I

479
00:34:57,079 --> 00:34:59,719
don't know, and I'm not saying
that's the case for every white person every

480
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:04,159
black person, but it sure seemed
like the majority of either race certainly went

481
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,239
that way. And I guess it
showed the racial divide. But I thought

482
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,760
there was also and maybe it was
done for sensationalism a little bit, I

483
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,320
thought in one of the pieces,
and it might have been the piece that

484
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:20,119
ran on ESPN, the documentary where
they interviewed a woman she was a black

485
00:35:20,119 --> 00:35:24,920
woman on the trial or Jerry,
excuse me, and she said she I

486
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,480
think She said, yeah, I
think he did it, but I found

487
00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:30,760
him innocent, and that Ezra Edelman
kept asking her questions. He was the

488
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,360
director. He kept asking her,
wait a minute, so you believe he

489
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,880
did it, but why did you
find him not guilty? And then she

490
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,880
went through it. If you listen
to her talk about it, it was

491
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,599
like all the ship we've ever put
up with, this is our chance to

492
00:35:42,639 --> 00:35:45,599
go. We're not letting this one
go to jail. This this this one

493
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,079
this one. Well, we're talking
about the same person. We've been talking.

494
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,679
We were talking about to differ people. Because the woman I saw said,

495
00:35:52,119 --> 00:35:55,039
she goes, look, we'd been
there for how many weeks? How

496
00:35:55,079 --> 00:35:59,960
many days? It come it came
down to the fact that there just wasn't

497
00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:02,920
enough evidence to suggest that he was
without a shadow of a doubt that he

498
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,440
did it. This is another one. She goes, she went through all

499
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,159
the scenarios. Okay, I'm with
all these people, right. We're losing

500
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:13,079
jurors at least one a week.
We were sequestered, we're away from our

501
00:36:13,079 --> 00:36:15,039
families, we can't see these people. And when they put that, when

502
00:36:15,039 --> 00:36:20,880
they gave us the case, we
just wanted to get the f out and

503
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,920
they did. I mean they had
a decision in three hours, which is

504
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:28,559
ridiculous. In fact, like in
the OJ not the documentary but the FX

505
00:36:28,599 --> 00:36:30,480
series the People versus O. J. Simpson, they even they did.

506
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:35,840
None of the lawyers expected to be
back the following Tuesday. They were thinking

507
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,440
everything would take on a vacation for
a week or a month. There's one

508
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:42,440
line where Marsha Clark, was the
lead prosecutor, tells Christopher Darden, what

509
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,840
if I don't hear from you call
me anyway, Like they weren't planning out

510
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,199
seeing each other. Then they bring
everybody into like Johnny Cochran's office, and

511
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,079
Shapiro's losing his mind. He just
takes an hour just to fill out the

512
00:36:52,119 --> 00:36:53,480
forbes. I mean, they're like, they're like, I can't believe this.

513
00:36:53,519 --> 00:36:57,840
They actually were gona announce the verdict
that day, but the only attorney

514
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,400
there for OJ was was Carl Douglas, which, by the way, is

515
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,239
a riot. He is a star
in that documentary. And they're like,

516
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,119
well, maybe we should have mister
Cochran and miss Clark, you know,

517
00:37:07,199 --> 00:37:09,679
because all these people went away,
they had to rattle all the people up

518
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,920
and bring them in and say we're
gonna do this on a Tuesday. So

519
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:20,079
what Look, whether or not OJ
did it. I think that this many

520
00:37:20,159 --> 00:37:23,960
years after, you're just thirty years
exactly thirty years after, you almost start

521
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:29,920
to think that, yes, this
is he did it. But you always

522
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,440
wonder when you do something like that, do you think about it? Does

523
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:37,079
it come back to haunt you in
some way? So earlier today, there

524
00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:38,800
was a ninety eight year old guy, as I said, who came in

525
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:44,000
for the cop cast, and this
is just a clip. It'll drop next

526
00:37:44,039 --> 00:37:52,320
week. A cop cast with Jack
Foy and Matt Barnes was in here kind

527
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,880
of doing the interview. And I
found this to be just very interesting.

528
00:37:54,920 --> 00:38:00,360
And it made me think immediately of
OJ, because the news was just coming

529
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:04,280
out that he had passed. And
to hear what this guy says and then

530
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:09,960
just think of OJ's happened about this
second or third days in combat in the

531
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:17,280
Tire Valley and we were just going
through the woods and all of a sudden,

532
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:22,519
this German soldier popped out from behind
a shed, the first German soldier

533
00:38:22,559 --> 00:38:29,320
I saw I ever saw, and
he saw me at the same time I

534
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,239
saw him, I guess, and
he started to bring his rifle up.

535
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,199
I brought my rifle up a little
bit faster, I guess. I put

536
00:38:36,199 --> 00:38:44,519
two rounds right into him, and
he went down and we kept going and

537
00:38:44,519 --> 00:38:47,159
I walked by him. He's laying. So he was a young kid,

538
00:38:47,199 --> 00:38:53,280
probably twenty years old or so.
And that's something I never forgot. They

539
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:58,320
always felt bad about it. I
shot a guy, I killed a man.

540
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,679
There was something we had to do. And the heck of it is

541
00:39:04,679 --> 00:39:07,519
they did it many times after that. I was a machine gunner most of

542
00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:13,960
the time and the rifle company,
and that was our job. That's what

543
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:19,039
we did. Not on me to
touch on you know that I guess the

544
00:39:19,119 --> 00:39:22,679
dark areas, but that that is
war, you know, And I can't

545
00:39:22,679 --> 00:39:25,599
even imagine what you felt at that
particular point. And you know, we

546
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:30,480
call you guys the Greatest generation for
a reason. I mean, I'll say

547
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,320
thank you to you when you're wearing
your hat or we know you're your serving

548
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,199
something like that. But that's the
reason people say thank you is because we

549
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,599
know you've never forgotten that that particular
moment in time. It's hard sometimes,

550
00:39:39,679 --> 00:39:45,320
you know, you're just sitting in
your easy chair at home and memories come

551
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:50,880
flooding back. I'm sure they do. And how the hell could I have

552
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,880
done such a thing? How the
hell could I have done such a thing.

553
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:59,840
Now, that's a man who is
ninety eight years old and was probably

554
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,119
the same age as that soldier,
early twenties, late teens. I don't

555
00:40:04,119 --> 00:40:09,199
know. I just wondered if OJ
ever thought at some point, how the

556
00:40:09,199 --> 00:40:15,199
hell could I do such a thing? Or clearly war is is different right

557
00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:17,599
there, you can. I mean, it was either a shot or be

558
00:40:17,679 --> 00:40:22,760
killed, you know, or in
that situation, and he had many other

559
00:40:22,159 --> 00:40:29,280
things that he said along those lines
that were but you know, combat,

560
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:34,119
So it's not the same as I
would it's not the same as OJ.

561
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,920
So you just wonder. But I
just in some capacity, did he ever

562
00:40:37,039 --> 00:40:40,039
think in his own mind how could
I have done that? Or did he

563
00:40:40,119 --> 00:40:45,559
completely block it, you know,
blackout? There are those moments where psychologically

564
00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:49,119
you just black out, you don't
remember or whatever it is, or you

565
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,840
compartimentalize or I have no idea.
But I was thinking of that because you

566
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:57,920
hear that, and I think that's
something with war that we I've never ever

567
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,000
I mean, I know Barnes is
saying, and that's why, you know,

568
00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:05,599
that's why we all thank you and
all that. I don't think I

569
00:41:05,639 --> 00:41:08,599
ever thought of what they actually did. I don't think that. I mean,

570
00:41:08,639 --> 00:41:13,239
I know I was aware. I
just never I've never sat in a

571
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,320
room with somebody and heard that.
Yeah, I have thought I felt so

572
00:41:17,519 --> 00:41:22,280
bad, and then they come flooding
back and I think, how could I

573
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,840
have done that. I've never heard
a person say that about war. I've

574
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:30,960
never, I guess, had a
real discussion with somebody about the actual atrocities

575
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:35,960
of war when you fight for something
you believe in, and everybody would they

576
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,480
go to war, whether they were
a Nazi or they were an American an

577
00:41:37,519 --> 00:41:43,079
Allied soldier. You're believe you're usually
if you're there, you chose to be

578
00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:45,239
there, and you're believing in what
you're doing well, and you believe that

579
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,639
you're fighting on the side of good. Even though you know he sounds like

580
00:41:49,679 --> 00:41:51,679
he didn't want to have to do
that, but he had to. And

581
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,960
we've all seen the results in Perceiving
Private Ryan, where they have that one

582
00:41:54,039 --> 00:41:58,440
Nazi dig in his grave and Tom
Hanks's character lets him go and says,

583
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,320
turn yourself into the first American you
see and he ends up coming back and

584
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:05,079
killing half the crew later on in
the movie. You're like, so it's

585
00:42:05,119 --> 00:42:07,280
either you kill them or they kill
you, period. But that's there's an

586
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,800
understanding there. Murder, on the
other hand, it is way different.

587
00:42:12,599 --> 00:42:15,360
I think oj looked at it like, I'm sure he had his moments,

588
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:21,159
especially that week leading up to the
fact, because you know, well,

589
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:27,079
maybe, but in the time between
when he went to trial, through getting

590
00:42:27,119 --> 00:42:30,239
off all the way to Las Vegas
and then in the aftermath of what happened

591
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:36,199
nine years between. After those nine
years, I felt that OJ Simpson gave

592
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:40,199
the impression he was a sociopath.
Oh definitely. So I don't know that

593
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:45,920
he would think of it the way
this gentleman would look at once murdered,

594
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,760
the other one is kill or be
killed. Yeah okay, But but like

595
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:52,920
it sounds like this gentleman really has
flashbacks to having to do those things.

596
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:57,519
Whereas OJ, dude, he told
the story and all the comcast will drop

597
00:42:57,599 --> 00:43:02,760
next week, but he told a
story about going into a German town and

598
00:43:04,159 --> 00:43:07,800
the men who fought in World War
One from there basically when you know,

599
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:13,840
comrades comrades and surrendered immediately. He
said it was the young kids who were

600
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:21,360
And again I'm going to say that
war is an old man's idea executed by

601
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,239
young men. You need the young
men because they're feel invincible. And as

602
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:28,679
he said, we were all like, let's go right, they're all young

603
00:43:29,159 --> 00:43:32,599
over here. The old men are
surrendering the young men. And he said,

604
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:37,440
you know, really buying into what
Hitler had going on, which was

605
00:43:37,559 --> 00:43:40,280
part of the dogma. But again, a belief in what they're doing as

606
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:45,679
much as we believe in what we're
doing. These young kids would dig trenches

607
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:46,639
on the side of the road and
then pop up and he goes, and

608
00:43:46,679 --> 00:43:50,440
they were pretty good shots, he
said. But we would look at them

609
00:43:50,559 --> 00:43:52,679
and they were fourteen, fifteen,
sixteen years old. He goes, they're

610
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:57,199
like our younger brother. I have
a younger brother. He goes, I

611
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,719
got young. And he said,
but you had no choice. And it's

612
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:06,559
amazing. And I don't think I've
ever had that kind of conversation. But

613
00:44:06,639 --> 00:44:13,400
imagine you're ninety eight. This war
happened what sixty years ago? Yeah,

614
00:44:13,519 --> 00:44:17,599
and edited in forty seventy years ago. I mean, do you see it

615
00:44:17,639 --> 00:44:22,280
like there is no time. The
memory transcends time. That guy was right

616
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:27,599
back on those in that experience today, it does. I mean, he

617
00:44:27,679 --> 00:44:30,639
was right back there, and it
just was amazing. And then he told

618
00:44:30,679 --> 00:44:35,719
something that I have never heard ever
in any history book or anything. He

619
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:40,800
talked about they're walking into a German
town and this stench, he goes,

620
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:45,079
it just was overwhelming. And as
they came down into the town, that's

621
00:44:45,119 --> 00:44:47,920
where a concentration camp was, and
they get there and there are bodies everywhere

622
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:53,639
and all this well, the short
of it is they took the concentration camp.

623
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,119
He didn't talk about this on the
podcast. I hope I'm not speaking

624
00:44:59,159 --> 00:45:02,239
on the school, but I just
I think it. I think it just

625
00:45:02,559 --> 00:45:08,039
speaks, just speaks volumes what what
he said happened. They go in,

626
00:45:08,559 --> 00:45:14,920
they they disarm every German soldier.
They're surrendering. There's right, the Americans

627
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:21,840
have taken over. They take all
the Germans guns, they give them to

628
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:30,079
the Jews and they leave. And
the German and these the people in the

629
00:45:30,119 --> 00:45:37,000
concentration camp, and I don't know
as to what state of physical ability.

630
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:42,159
Don't forget many were starved, because
he said they were so emaciated, some

631
00:45:42,199 --> 00:45:45,440
of them, but that they killed
all the Germans except for one who had

632
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:51,360
been nice to them. Okay,
so he said, so I had never

633
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:57,880
heard. But did you ever hear
like they gave they free like, hey,

634
00:45:58,039 --> 00:46:00,280
hey, you handle it. You
you have the right to do this,

635
00:46:01,039 --> 00:46:05,639
and they walked away. I'm sure
they didn't walk away. I'm sure

636
00:46:05,639 --> 00:46:09,599
they stepped out and said it's yeah
or whatever, well, we'll be right

637
00:46:09,639 --> 00:46:13,400
here in case it's you know something, I gonna take a break. But

638
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,280
but I just I was like,
you know, you didn't question anything.

639
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:21,599
I just I'm saying, but these
memories were just so vivid in his mind,

640
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:23,599
and I do I just was wondering
at the same time. Again,

641
00:46:23,679 --> 00:46:29,480
we're talking about completely different psychological landscape. I'm sure mindscape. I guess you

642
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,920
would call it with OJ. But
at some point, at any point,

643
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:36,039
if he really did, did he
ever stop? And I mean to even

644
00:46:36,039 --> 00:46:42,000
be able to joke about it to
me is almost a sign that you did

645
00:46:42,039 --> 00:46:45,440
it. In a way, kidder's
never really kid. You're gonna kid about

646
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:49,199
something. You're gonna kid about the
the mother of your children is dead and

647
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,280
they're saying it's your hand, and
many many people still believe it's your hands.

648
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,360
And then you walked around and young
women and this is a part of

649
00:46:55,400 --> 00:47:00,400
that just blew my mind. Young
women he's doing blow off their assess and

650
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,599
down in Florida and he's banging around
and oh, they called him the godfather.

651
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:07,239
But everybody said he was so nice. I know people who said they

652
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:12,000
were at restaurants and things. Somebody
said he was doing an autograph signing.

653
00:47:12,079 --> 00:47:14,880
OJ still owes me money. I
lost a million tips because he was at

654
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,239
a bar up the street in Florida
when he moved down there, there's just

655
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:25,320
but always polite and nice and look
his presentation onto X nice and knowledgeable about

656
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:30,039
the modern day game of football,
like he had a likability about him that

657
00:47:30,599 --> 00:47:36,719
it just shows a real psychotic yeah
something. There's a reason why to this

658
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:42,079
day, people who you know,
people believe he didn't do it. And

659
00:47:42,119 --> 00:47:45,519
it goes back to the fact that
they thought they knew OJ before that day.

660
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:50,639
But because he always presented himself as
the guy you talk. Yes,

661
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,159
Scotpotoniac told me a great story once
he's writing a story about OJ when he's

662
00:47:53,199 --> 00:47:57,039
doing the Naked Gun, the second
Naked Gun movie, and he's talking.

663
00:47:57,079 --> 00:48:00,280
They're talking about I don't know new
sab It or somebody like that, and

664
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:01,960
he goes, Scott, hold on
one second, what we got to redo

665
00:48:02,039 --> 00:48:05,599
a scene? He goes, I'll
call you back, Scott, let me

666
00:48:05,599 --> 00:48:07,400
call you back. What's your number? Writes it down, So Scott's thinking,

667
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:12,599
Okay, I just lost OJ.
Twenty minutes later, phone rings,

668
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,239
he picks it up. It's Ojay. He calls him back. He goes

669
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:16,760
to where were we? Like he
was that kind of guy. He was

670
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:22,159
personable and he was friendless. He
just was he But he had an obsession,

671
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:27,920
and it was his wife and it
became what it became evil whatever.

672
00:48:28,199 --> 00:48:31,480
Look, if you're having sex with
Jenner and all these other people, how

673
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:36,360
obsessed are you with your wife?
Or was it just it's a possessive thing.

674
00:48:37,159 --> 00:48:39,519
It's some kind of he got her
when she was eighteen, billy young.

675
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:45,000
There's something that's just very uh disturbing
about the whole thing. And yet

676
00:48:45,159 --> 00:48:51,599
I found the guy fascinating, the
way people reacted to him fascinating over the

677
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,679
years, seeing him in recent years
right up in Buffalo, and I'm with

678
00:48:55,760 --> 00:49:00,639
Tim Graham, I would have done
those interviews just strict to almost just go

679
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:08,880
what is it like to have knowing
that anybody you interact with has an opinion

680
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:14,840
about you, And most of them
it's a negative one. Yeah, most

681
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,719
like a pretty serious negative one,
Like you're the guy they never want to

682
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,639
hang, You're the stigma, they're
afraid to come the stigma. Yeah,

683
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:27,360
you're the punchline, You're the you're
the meme, you're the Halloween mask,

684
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,800
You're everything. And I I just
would what would that be like? And

685
00:49:30,159 --> 00:49:34,000
I guess maybe you gotta be psychotic
to be able to handle it. I

686
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,840
don't know. I don't know,
because he certainly seemed who he went out,

687
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:43,400
he golfed, did everything. He
can compartmentalize that sociopathic, sociopathic.

688
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,239
But oh man, just, I
mean, just he was such an enigma.

689
00:49:47,199 --> 00:49:52,639
There's just so much surrounding just the
idea of OJ Sibson and the concept

690
00:49:52,639 --> 00:49:55,639
of OJ Sibpson and everything. And
if he just if he just stayed home

691
00:49:55,679 --> 00:50:00,159
that night, if he had just
stayed home that night, think about this

692
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:04,719
when it comes to OJ Sipson.
Elvis Presley, Right, he marries Priscilla.

693
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,840
She was hand picked at fourteen,
fourteen years old. Okay, I

694
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:12,960
always go why why are we not
ever ranting and raving and jumping up and

695
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,800
down and screaming about that he does. Let's think about this. He picks

696
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,840
her out of the while he's got
all these other women. Yes, he

697
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,840
picks her up. Why because he
needed to have somebody that he could rely

698
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,199
on, depend on in groom to
play the part of missus. Elvis Presley

699
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:30,760
one day and he's grooming her and
one day even she said yeah enough,

700
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:35,239
I'm done and walks out out.
I mean a lot of people believe that

701
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:40,039
that was the beginning of the end
for Elvis Presley. Now here's Nicole Brown

702
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:45,280
who's had enough of OJ Sipson and
tells you, like everybody in the world

703
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:49,199
wants every woman in the world wanted
OJ Sipson. Everyone in the world wanted

704
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,480
Elvis Presley, except the one woman
that you picked to be yours says,

705
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:57,679
you know what, I don't want
this anymore. That's a huge My father

706
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,039
told me that when OJ, because
he knew you had it figured out from

707
00:51:00,119 --> 00:51:04,599
day one, figured out from day
one, my father, and he was

708
00:51:04,639 --> 00:51:07,599
an OJ fan, he did,
Oh yeah, he had it. Well,

709
00:51:07,599 --> 00:51:13,599
why did they prosecution again? Listen, we got a detective from Silverburry

710
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,000
gotta fucking blow you la PD guys
away. Can I tell you something The

711
00:51:17,039 --> 00:51:21,559
best O J joke ever? Just
this is just my opinion. Bill Bellaby

712
00:51:21,679 --> 00:51:24,440
was doing a set around Thanksgiving of
that year called Bill Bellaby's Booty Call at

713
00:51:24,559 --> 00:51:29,400
MTV and he opens up with an
OJ joke. He goes, you know

714
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,760
who saw the whole thing? The
dog? Why don't they interview the dog?

715
00:51:36,159 --> 00:51:39,239
You? Well, uh, We'll
take a moment. I have a

716
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:44,800
few questions that I asked along the
lines of the uh stuff you had sent

717
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,599
from Twitter earlier. This week to
our ninety eight year old friend Jack foy

718
00:51:49,159 --> 00:51:52,800
Uh And it'll be interesting to hear
what he says, because I think there's

719
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:59,800
something that he says that you Dan
will agree with in principle. In principle,

720
00:52:00,119 --> 00:52:02,039
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721
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723
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724
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731
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736
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737
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It's time to get back in the
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738
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out with good friends at an upscale
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739
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740
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741
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742
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whatever it is, Cobblestone on Maine, they'll treat you right one on

743
00:53:32,079 --> 00:53:52,119
nine West Main Street in the village
of Webster. I'm talking about let's talk

744
00:53:52,159 --> 00:53:58,320
about a little bit. Why don't
people wonder about my ginger? Why do

745
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:02,000
people ask you so many about how
I made it to the top, about

746
00:54:02,079 --> 00:54:06,360
all the times I make those the
defensive stop and they say, show coach,

747
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,000
that's no stopping the juice. And
when I'm on the field, I'm

748
00:54:08,039 --> 00:54:12,360
like a lion going leaves. You
better shoot me. What a franquilizer do?

749
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,880
I don't be fool stupid. I'm
not a simpt a name bar.

750
00:54:15,039 --> 00:54:19,760
I'm not a part too sunny bad
like the type of state of mock tunes.

751
00:54:20,079 --> 00:54:22,400
Can't you see? The only way
I lived my life is life.

752
00:54:22,559 --> 00:54:28,440
Man. I got the most games
with two hundred plus, y'all god like

753
00:54:29,199 --> 00:54:34,679
team just come out in two thousand
and six. But it sounds like him,

754
00:54:35,039 --> 00:54:42,559
and it sounds like Dionne Sanders talking
to you. Really listen, got

755
00:54:42,559 --> 00:54:47,400
that d Twins talking about the lowers
like one, two three? Where because

756
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:51,559
the ball came to me? So
all you play are hitters in your sucking

757
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:57,079
sea. You better get on your
knees and get some of It's a transition

758
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:01,000
like a sixth cents or intuition from
now he comes down to just one decision.

759
00:55:01,199 --> 00:55:10,440
I'll be going up the middle.
Then I get the SIDELO. Wow,

760
00:55:12,159 --> 00:55:15,760
that's crazy, because Kevin said it
reminded him of this song right here

761
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:22,480
we were and there is sound.
But this is just two thousand and six.

762
00:55:22,599 --> 00:55:28,840
I think the rap came out because
remember o J. After the lawsuit

763
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:30,719
came out that he lost that thirty
three million dollars, he had a come

764
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:34,880
up with that money. So he
was like trying to start reality shows.

765
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,559
He was trying to do rap records. There's a lot of He's also starting

766
00:55:37,559 --> 00:55:40,320
all these like shell companies, so
he wouldn't have to pay it out right,

767
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,639
And by the way, even though
he's dead now, I'm told that

768
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:45,480
the hundred million dollars I think is
what he goes. Yeah, like,

769
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:49,480
yeah, he's they're not gonna the
Goldmans aren't going to see a dime.

770
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,800
Did he ever pay him anything?
Very little? The heisman they got that

771
00:55:54,880 --> 00:56:00,000
he didn't get much though. All
right, well, wow that's Ron Goldman.

772
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:04,679
I guess tweeted out or made a
comment today about it. He says,

773
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,679
that's no big loss for the world, but just for another reminder that

774
00:56:07,679 --> 00:56:12,119
I lost my son. Yeah terrible. Yeah, Yeah, there are probably

775
00:56:12,199 --> 00:56:14,440
in a day that goes by that
he doesn't think about that. Yeah,

776
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:19,199
I'll probably David. In fact,
after this I had a boss who actually

777
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:24,119
flew out to Brentwood and sat down
and convinced Fred Goldman to come to Rochester

778
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:28,000
and do a talk show in the
mid days for w h a M.

779
00:56:28,039 --> 00:56:30,519
And he actually did it for about
a month, but it really didn't catch

780
00:56:30,559 --> 00:56:31,920
on. But he wanted to convince
him that, like, this is your

781
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:37,320
chance to become this big talk show
host and star out of this tragedy.

782
00:56:38,039 --> 00:56:43,880
And it never really came to fruition. Oh that makes my skin crawl.

783
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,519
I can tell you who the boss
was too. No, I don't have

784
00:56:47,559 --> 00:56:51,000
to do it now. No I
don't. I don't need to know.

785
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:58,599
I'll tell you what there's It could
have been cathartic. I went to school

786
00:56:58,639 --> 00:57:04,920
with Jennifer Kon who was tragically murdered
at Saint John Fisher. Her father got

787
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,559
into politics as a result of that. It probably was very cathartic to be

788
00:57:08,639 --> 00:57:14,039
able to talk about your daughter,
do something in her memory and try to

789
00:57:14,039 --> 00:57:17,880
make people's lives better in some capacity. Maybe the same thing with Goldman.

790
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,760
The only thing that I don't like
is the boss going to seek that guy

791
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:27,480
out and go, hey, let's
make some money. You know what I

792
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,840
mean? Because the station will profit
as well, and it's a business,

793
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,119
and there's nothing wrong with that.
There is nothing wrong with that at all.

794
00:57:34,199 --> 00:57:37,519
I worked in radio for a long
time and I still respect radio to

795
00:57:37,599 --> 00:57:40,079
this day. I do believe at
some point, big corporate radio will go

796
00:57:40,079 --> 00:57:45,239
away and you'll have small stations.
Again. Small I don't mean small stations,

797
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,840
smaller groups, yes, but stations
that better serve the communities they're in,

798
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:52,480
right, because they don't have to
answer to a corporate certain thing.

799
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:57,760
But that aside, I just think
that, my god, there's something about

800
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,559
profiting off a tragedy that just does
not sit well with me. Like I,

801
00:58:01,559 --> 00:58:05,199
if I were in that meeting,
my eyes should be as big as

802
00:58:05,199 --> 00:58:07,360
saucers going. I don't even know
what to say to that, and I

803
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:13,719
don't think that anybody questioned it.
No, maybe I'm wrong, I just

804
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:17,719
because I kind of gasp at it
now. I don't, I don't,

805
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:22,119
I don't know. Maybe it was
a great Cato Kalin got a fucking talk

806
00:58:22,159 --> 00:58:24,880
show. He was on a radio
station in La. He was terrible.

807
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:29,760
Well, he felt that this gentleman
felt that he could bring Fred in.

808
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:31,199
Fred would have a platform to talk
about No, no, no, I

809
00:58:32,119 --> 00:58:35,239
get it. I get the theory
of it. It's the same thing,

810
00:58:35,239 --> 00:58:38,320
and that's why I drew the parallel
to Combs. There may be a case

811
00:58:38,559 --> 00:58:44,280
where it's cathartic for him and maybe
you bring some good out and maybe we

812
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,519
start talking about changing laws. Or
I don't know, I have no idea.

813
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:52,440
There's just something about I couldn't be
the guy to approach the man who

814
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,039
had There are just people that don't
have that common sense or they did just

815
00:58:55,599 --> 00:58:59,679
shut it down and just see the
dollars sign at the end of the wall.

816
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:01,559
Yeah, I mean, look,
this could be somebody saying, hey,

817
00:59:01,599 --> 00:59:04,719
you know, this would be a
guy and he's well spoken, and

818
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,079
he's been out in front of cameras
and it's a name and he looks good.

819
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,280
I just couldn't, Danny. I
couldn't be the boss to go out

820
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:14,679
and make that call because I couldn't
go up to somebody to go, listen,

821
00:59:14,719 --> 00:59:19,039
we all know you because you had
an unspeakable tragedy in your life at

822
00:59:19,079 --> 00:59:22,599
the hands of someone in the world
is loved, beloved. I just couldn't

823
00:59:22,639 --> 00:59:27,159
do that. There was something like, I don't know, I call it

824
00:59:27,199 --> 00:59:32,000
profiting off tragedy. Yeah, I
guess everybody you could say that to certain

825
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:38,199
saying that I had. I always
found Jerry Springer to be a very smart

826
00:59:38,199 --> 00:59:42,280
guy. I just found the show
repulsive because to me, it felt like

827
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,519
it was just profiting off of the
tragedy of people. I sir, I

828
00:59:45,559 --> 00:59:47,559
watched a few, but there were
times where I would find it And I

829
00:59:47,599 --> 00:59:51,320
know this sounds really weird, right, because maybe you think different than me.

830
00:59:51,639 --> 00:59:54,599
I found it very upsetting when I
found people like throwing chairs and going

831
00:59:54,639 --> 00:59:58,440
at each other, and I'm like
this, I don't think this is I

832
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,639
think it's trumped up a little bit
for TV. But if that's how people

833
01:00:00,639 --> 01:00:04,920
are behaving, why don't we Why
aren't we trying to help them instead of

834
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,280
encourage them? Yeah, you do
the three one five years of the week.

835
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:15,960
Well yeah, I mean you could
call me a hypocrite. You could

836
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:20,599
call me a hypocrite. I'm sure, I guess, but I feel like

837
01:00:21,159 --> 01:00:22,920
I never wanted to, like,
I'll poke fun at it, but I

838
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:30,159
always say, as that lady said
to you, Uh, from that lady,

839
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:34,639
let me explain the woman who was
busted in Minnesota allegedly having sex with

840
01:00:34,719 --> 01:00:37,360
underage kids, and we reached out
to her, I said, there's always

841
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,360
another side to the story. I
believe there's another side to the story.

842
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:43,960
I would love to talk. I
love talking to people. I love I

843
01:00:44,159 --> 01:00:46,840
think every human has a story.
I think every human wants to be heard.

844
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:51,440
I believe that, and maybe that's
not true. That's my opinion.

845
01:00:51,519 --> 01:00:53,159
Well, CMF. We would always
seek out the other side of the story.

846
01:00:53,239 --> 01:00:55,280
That was what we were known for. I like to find the other

847
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,840
side of the story, and we
find it actually pretty endearing most of the

848
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,079
time. Yes, so you know, the throwing the chairs and all this

849
01:01:01,119 --> 01:01:05,039
stuff. I found that upset.
I wasn't looking for that, but I'd

850
01:01:05,039 --> 01:01:07,159
like to hear the other side of
the story, you know, because some

851
01:01:07,199 --> 01:01:10,599
people, and some of them were
hysterically funny. And yes, we were

852
01:01:10,679 --> 01:01:14,360
laughing at them. So maybe that's
just as bad. I don't know,

853
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,679
but I guess in my mind,
maybe I'm a psychopath. I was able

854
01:01:17,679 --> 01:01:23,159
to kind yeah, you know,
I mean there walked in determined. Oh

855
01:01:23,199 --> 01:01:25,639
gosh, like we were. There
was at one time where that guy got

856
01:01:25,639 --> 01:01:29,800
busted for being married twice. Yeah, I didn't realize it. He came

857
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:34,360
out. She tell my story.
Yeah, or and Bobb it showed up

858
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,760
one morning because he was working construction. It was right before Christmas. He

859
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,199
just came walking in. Hey,
we know john Way, Bobby's working on

860
01:01:40,239 --> 01:01:44,559
a job with us. You wanted
to come in the studios sture, Okay,

861
01:01:44,719 --> 01:01:47,719
oh yeah sure. First guy,
the first guy he beat Tommy,

862
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:51,239
Yeah he did. He walks in. He's like a five forty five.

863
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:54,159
He walks in. You can't sit
there. That's that's Tommy's chair. I

864
01:01:54,159 --> 01:01:59,280
couldn't believe. Dude, dude,
you can't sit there. But he's got

865
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,880
a sabers jury and he's trying to
make jokes and none of us are laughing.

866
01:02:02,519 --> 01:02:06,639
I mean, move. You wouldn't
move yourself. I had my own

867
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,280
I had my old stuff to worry
about. I don't Billy couldn't make bobbit

868
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:14,840
move. I don't remember. I'm
might probably. There's another guy in the

869
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:16,079
student that didn't want to give up
his chair either, and we had to

870
01:02:16,079 --> 01:02:22,920
force him out too. How he
got pissed off. He's like, wow,

871
01:02:23,119 --> 01:02:25,360
I told you go over there and
sit over there. Who was that?

872
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:30,159
It was Pat? Because Pat like
just kept jumping in that one extra

873
01:02:30,239 --> 01:02:32,880
chair and we're like, no,
it's about the listeners. Every Christmas we'd

874
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:36,199
have a listeners show. Yes,
well, we'd invite all like the people

875
01:02:36,239 --> 01:02:38,360
who called the show all the time. Yeah, and like we'd have a

876
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:42,639
blast. We get I mean now
we would. It would drive the other

877
01:02:42,679 --> 01:02:45,039
four stations nuts. God, we
were getting drunk, we were getting loud.

878
01:02:45,199 --> 01:02:50,800
Tommy started losing his mind. Yeah. And then Chase Fry showed up

879
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,880
with like a crew. He like
shot up with like fifteen people. They're

880
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:59,679
taking pictures. I gotta tell you, like I for whatever reason, and

881
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:04,840
this this is the tragedy I think
of the human experience. I'll call it

882
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:09,079
that because I think everybody has that. You focus on something, and I

883
01:03:09,199 --> 01:03:15,719
focused on all my push to basically
be accepted. That's really what it was.

884
01:03:15,159 --> 01:03:20,679
My push to be accepted by Entercom's
management and prove that I could do

885
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:22,800
this. So everything in my mind, it was a struggle. It was

886
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:27,679
a fight. It was this when
I sit with you and I remember,

887
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:31,280
I go, god, damn,
that was some of the funniest, greatest

888
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:37,880
radio I ever did. Had you
asked me. Shows after that that I

889
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:42,239
was part of were much easier because
I didn't have to fight the battles with

890
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:45,320
management at that point. I just
you know, and I had people that

891
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:49,199
were pretty amenable and easy to work
with, and it was fine, not

892
01:03:49,239 --> 01:03:53,199
that anybody wasn't, but Tommy could
get prickly and things. It was actually

893
01:03:53,239 --> 01:03:59,679
but it was fucking incredibly, incredibly
great. That was a great show,

894
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,360
and their version of it now today
that they do is fantastic. But I

895
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:05,800
just go, holy, We're the
last show to actually do like a Man

896
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:11,639
on the Street bits live, like
real authentic theater of the mind radio,

897
01:04:12,159 --> 01:04:15,159
and that's gone now good morning radio. You know, like people said,

898
01:04:15,159 --> 01:04:17,039
it turns out I have to be
honest with you, and I know it

899
01:04:17,079 --> 01:04:21,239
sounds maybe because I worked in the
industry for so long, I certainly appreciate

900
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:26,599
talent and talk and all that stuff. I'm so focused on here and other

901
01:04:26,679 --> 01:04:30,440
projects I'm trying to it doesn't matter. There's a lot of other things.

902
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:34,400
I'm spending a lot of money to
buy things and get more stuff in here

903
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:39,960
and flights and trying to book something
for the beginning of May, and I

904
01:04:40,639 --> 01:04:44,519
just I don't even think of that
world as much as I used to.

905
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:46,440
I don't think of that world,
and I don't listen, and a lot

906
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:50,199
of times now it's just I enjoy
the music, and I you know,

907
01:04:51,079 --> 01:04:56,119
somebody said to me, I hear
you talk about serious XM. Any music

908
01:04:56,199 --> 01:04:59,360
platform, that's the one I have, and I have it on everything.

909
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:00,239
I have it on my TV at
home, and I have it on my

910
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:03,719
iPad, my phone in my car. I like it. I like it.

911
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:08,519
I happen to like certain channels on
there. And I don't listen to

912
01:05:08,519 --> 01:05:13,639
a whole lot of talk outside of
the talk. Can I do listen to

913
01:05:13,679 --> 01:05:18,360
that? Anyway? Here's something since
we're talking about life. So Danny had

914
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:23,599
sent me earlier this week a bunch
of a young guy who goes around and

915
01:05:23,679 --> 01:05:26,320
talks to people, and I'm going
to say, between the ages of sixty

916
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:29,599
and one hundred kind of about their
life, what would they say to their

917
01:05:29,639 --> 01:05:32,239
younger selves and all that. So
today with Jack Foy, after he was

918
01:05:32,239 --> 01:05:36,239
done with Comcast, I had a
few seconds and I asked him, Jack,

919
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:43,119
how old are you right now today? Ninety eight? So what is

920
01:05:43,159 --> 01:05:47,199
your secret to being ninety eight?
Everybody's looking for sort of that magic elixir

921
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:51,440
right to live a long life?
Ninety eight years? Yeah, every boosh

922
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:59,920
and wild woman. If you could
go back in time and have a converse

923
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:09,280
with your younger self, what would
you tell him, oh gosh, Well,

924
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:14,760
I tried to be a rather devout
Catholic, and I would advise him

925
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:20,760
to stick to the religion too much. Don't believe everything you're reading the newspaper

926
01:06:21,079 --> 01:06:28,519
or on television. There's a good
percentage of it. It's allowablogna. Depending

927
01:06:28,559 --> 01:06:32,800
on what station you're listening to,
the station will have the same story,

928
01:06:33,079 --> 01:06:40,800
but everything is just the opposite.
Yeah, this is a kind of almost

929
01:06:41,119 --> 01:06:45,559
trust your God a little bit.
Yeah, have you ever lost someone you

930
01:06:45,639 --> 01:06:47,119
truly loved? Well, before we
get to that, I just want to

931
01:06:47,159 --> 01:06:51,239
comment on what he said about the
religion and stuff. There's a couple of

932
01:06:51,239 --> 01:06:56,039
things. I don't know if you
always felt like don't trust everything you read.

933
01:06:56,360 --> 01:07:00,480
It feels like a newer thing with
us. We you know, you

934
01:07:00,519 --> 01:07:03,440
had your Walter Cronkites of America,
trusted Walker Kronkite, and he was just

935
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:10,320
giving you the facts. And I
don't know that he's necessarily a supporter of

936
01:07:10,679 --> 01:07:14,800
President Trump, but he certainly likes
him. President Trump spoke about Jack in

937
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:18,960
particular for five or six minutes.
Jack has done many tours back to France

938
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:24,760
for Norman D Day and things,
and said, the only president who's ever

939
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:28,840
come down and shake and shook the
hand of every veteran and looked them in

940
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:30,159
the eye and talked to him.
The only president, he said, I

941
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:33,320
was there. They would many would
be seeing it up on the dais or

942
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:38,280
something. They wouldn't gonet. The
only one was Trump. Very patriotic,

943
01:07:38,599 --> 01:07:43,440
and I think that guys like Jack
certainly appreciated that. And I can understand

944
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:47,480
why, certainly, right. But
I go back to his thing about religion,

945
01:07:48,159 --> 01:07:56,039
and I think that some people aren't
religious, but I think religion gives

946
01:07:56,079 --> 01:08:01,159
you a discipline. Would that be
fair? Yeah, tenant, the ten

947
01:08:01,199 --> 01:08:05,239
Commandment, something to live by,
a code guide. Religious people are pretty

948
01:08:05,239 --> 01:08:11,000
good people, right, They just
usually usually not always. So I'm sure

949
01:08:11,039 --> 01:08:14,440
we could all come up with the
example of the bad apples. But for

950
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:17,319
the most part, if you had
a religious neighbor who's not waving in your

951
01:08:17,359 --> 01:08:21,479
face necessarily, but it's always polite, kind, keeps the yard, comes

952
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:24,560
over to help you, does this
sort of thing. I mean, this

953
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:29,199
is a guy who sat here and
in the podcast said I was born in

954
01:08:29,319 --> 01:08:34,199
nineteen twenty six or twenty seven,
and he said that he so that the

955
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:39,199
depression, and at that time,
he said there were families and there were

956
01:08:39,199 --> 01:08:43,319
no social services, so my mother
would have us gather up some extra food

957
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:45,159
to families that we knew, and
he goes, you would go over and

958
01:08:45,159 --> 01:08:48,039
you'd knock on the door and then
you'd run like hell because you didn't want

959
01:08:48,079 --> 01:08:51,000
to embarrass them. You didn't want
them to know who was dropping off the

960
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:55,479
food. But it was food,
and that was his mom did that.

961
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:58,960
And he came from a large family
just so. But I think and he

962
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:02,600
said his faith is what got him
through the war and that sort of thing,

963
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:05,079
and I thought of you, But
I thought, boy, religion,

964
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:10,640
if there's a discipline, you know, not too much of anything, not

965
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:15,920
too much wine, women, cigarette, whatever it is, whatever your many

966
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:18,119
people's vices are you kind of keep
that discipline. And I thought that was

967
01:09:18,159 --> 01:09:21,359
just an interesting answer. That's cool. Yeah, just an interesting answer from

968
01:09:21,399 --> 01:09:27,079
him. Let's see. Yes,
very unfortunately. I asked him out,

969
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:36,600
has he ever lost anybody? You
loved? His wife after for forty five

970
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:47,000
years or so, about about ninety
five, I think, yeah, if

971
01:09:47,039 --> 01:09:49,000
you could have it, well,
if you could go back and tell her

972
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:51,960
one thing today, what would you
say if you could have one conversation?

973
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:58,039
How much I appreciated her after seeing
some of these other things going on around

974
01:09:58,079 --> 01:10:02,479
our world. Yeah, your wonderful
jab and bringing her kids up. I

975
01:10:01,239 --> 01:10:08,920
had one son and three daughters.
Yeah, she did a wonderful jab and

976
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:13,159
bringing them up. Is there anything
thats you you look back on your life

977
01:10:13,159 --> 01:10:17,920
that you regret at all? There
may have been incidences that I turned right

978
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:23,920
when I should have turned last year
or something, but nothing of any great

979
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:30,000
importance. Yeah. Do you believe
that it kind of all works out in

980
01:10:30,039 --> 01:10:33,920
life? Just a good way of
putting an event. Eventually it will,

981
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:41,800
Yeah, straightened out to whatever you're
doing. That's that's that's interesting than just

982
01:10:42,079 --> 01:10:44,920
you know, here's an old guy. And I only say that because think

983
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:47,640
about anybody. It all works out, you know, And if you're clinging

984
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:51,720
onto something too hard and fighting against
just just relax a little bit and everything

985
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:54,880
seems to work out. I don't
know. I don't know why I don't

986
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:57,399
grow up the bat too tight?
No, because we're kind of conditioned.

987
01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:00,680
Yes, do that too bad?
It's taken me a few, like several

988
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:03,399
years to figure that out. Well, usually how you used to always say,

989
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:06,239
let going like God, which is
pretty much the same theory of you

990
01:11:06,319 --> 01:11:12,520
used to say that to me,
I believe it did. I probably did.

991
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:15,119
Just let go and like, god, if you're going to be mirrors

992
01:11:15,159 --> 01:11:17,680
to figure it out, But no, you did. It was like early

993
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:19,920
on when we worked together. Yeah, I did. Because it was a

994
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:24,239
tough job man, because you're broke. We at least I was, and

995
01:11:24,399 --> 01:11:27,199
you're getting up at three o'clock in
the morning and you don't feel appreciated,

996
01:11:27,279 --> 01:11:30,680
not by you or Tommy but by
everybody else. Well, there were certain

997
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:33,359
times we yeah, I don't have
to get we have to we don't have

998
01:11:33,359 --> 01:11:38,640
to go back on memory trying to
do things that would would try to build

999
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:41,239
the team a little bit, like
if we hit a bonus, we knew

1000
01:11:41,239 --> 01:11:45,039
you guys didn't have it. I
tried to talk Tommy into each given half

1001
01:11:45,119 --> 01:11:48,359
of a bonus to you guys.
You did you tried? No, no,

1002
01:11:48,359 --> 01:11:50,359
no, he did he did?
We did it? Did you did

1003
01:11:50,359 --> 01:11:55,600
it? We did it once or
twice once I remember once. But didn't

1004
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:58,520
you get bonuses in your contract after
that? Yeah? But so here's what

1005
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:00,880
happened. They actually switched to that
rolling model. So you had to do

1006
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:04,640
it like three books for an entire
year. You had to average and of

1007
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:08,600
course I always average to be number
one in the summer. Oh damn,

1008
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:13,319
we don't give those out in the
summer. Oh dun't. Dun't. I

1009
01:12:13,359 --> 01:12:15,720
think I got that taken out because
I had an agent at the time.

1010
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:18,880
I only had only got a bonus
twice. I didn't have that. We

1011
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:23,239
finished number one several times, but
I only Yeah, but you know what

1012
01:12:23,279 --> 01:12:26,720
the rolling average, doesn't you know? But you always got the cake.

1013
01:12:27,159 --> 01:12:30,319
Yeah, Well, gosh, I
hate Yeah, it's a bit. It's

1014
01:12:30,359 --> 01:12:35,119
a business, yeah kind of thing. And I understand I have people to

1015
01:12:35,159 --> 01:12:39,439
answer to. I don't I will
say, I don't understand it. I

1016
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:41,720
just I was just trying to be
nice. I don't understand it. I

1017
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:44,479
don't understand because I think that I
would love to go back up, backhand

1018
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:46,079
every one of them. But that's
not good. Well, it's not going.

1019
01:12:46,359 --> 01:12:49,159
God damn, you're right. Yes, you gotta you gotta really let

1020
01:12:49,239 --> 01:12:53,319
go. You do that. Betterness
can poison the well on a lot of

1021
01:12:53,359 --> 01:12:55,720
times, I know. But it's
more entertaining to talk about it this way.

1022
01:12:56,399 --> 01:12:58,560
It's more fun to talk about it
this way, I would say,

1023
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:00,800
because that's how I felt at the
time. I always think for a boss,

1024
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:04,520
you know, really see what motivates
this team. And even if you

1025
01:13:05,119 --> 01:13:08,560
if you go, hang on a
second, let's give him, like,

1026
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:11,399
I don't know what was your wrong
to say it was one thousand dollars,

1027
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:14,960
right, give them five hundred.
Let's show these guys that, hey man,

1028
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:18,239
they're really in there cooking and doing
a great job and just something that's

1029
01:13:18,279 --> 01:13:23,840
going to motivate, motivate, motivate, you know. I mean that there

1030
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:29,600
are some really fantastic bosses, and
then there are some really terrible bosses.

1031
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:34,439
And a terrible boss doesn't mean that
they perform bad. It just means that

1032
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:40,000
they aren't in tune and they don't
care, and everything's cold and all this,

1033
01:13:40,119 --> 01:13:43,880
and a great boss knows exactly what
makes you work. And Kevin wants

1034
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:45,039
to be at his kids hockey game, so if he wants to leave at

1035
01:13:45,039 --> 01:13:48,960
two o'clock, that's fine. He
may only make seventy five thousand dollars a

1036
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,560
year, and there may be somebody
else who goes, man, I'll run

1037
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:55,119
through walls and work saturdays and do
all this stuff. And they may make

1038
01:13:55,159 --> 01:13:59,119
two hundred thousand dollars a year,
But tell me who's happier. And maybe

1039
01:13:59,119 --> 01:14:01,439
they're both happy maybe a single young
guy who's on the struggle and Kevin like

1040
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:06,680
spending time with family and it's enough
money, And I think that's a boss's

1041
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:10,920
job. Yeah, to know what
happy? What makes people think, all

1042
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:15,800
right, well we uh will take
a moment. I was gonna get into

1043
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:20,600
this thing. Revenge dish could served
cold. I'm not sure how I feel

1044
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:25,199
about this has to do with the
eclipse. Could it have been here,

1045
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:30,399
I don't know, but it certainly
was somewhere where. There was the totality

1046
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:34,800
that this happened and someone decided they
wanted revenge on this, and I'm not

1047
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:38,359
sure. Think of a time.
Have you ever got revenge on the clouds?

1048
01:14:38,399 --> 01:14:44,960
Billy Well quick revenge minutes worth?
Who was it? Scott Hetskoe tweeted

1049
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:47,000
out, this is Rochester for three
hours today. It's that meme of the

1050
01:14:47,079 --> 01:14:54,600
of Abe Sipson, old man yells
at cloud for three hours. I think,

1051
01:14:54,800 --> 01:15:00,279
uh, yes, but but this
is a revenge thing and I'm not

1052
01:15:00,319 --> 01:15:08,000
sure what It just seems petty to
me and I go away. Sometimes you

1053
01:15:08,079 --> 01:15:11,319
got to be better than that.
Yes, sometimes it feels good. Yeah

1054
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:16,000
about it podcast? I get that
that happened fifteen years ago. Iron Smoke

1055
01:15:16,079 --> 01:15:19,560
is chill here man. Now,
I'll tell you what what Tommy Burnett and

1056
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:24,600
his crew over an Iron Smoke and
his wife Jen have built is amazing.

1057
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:30,680
They were the first establishment in the
cannery and they proved it worked. And

1058
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:33,000
you go there now, and there
used to be plenty of parking. There

1059
01:15:33,319 --> 01:15:38,359
used to be plenty of parking.
Now you've got two breweries. You've got

1060
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:42,520
Faircraft Brewery, yes, and you've
got I'm forgetting the name of the other

1061
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:45,520
one. I was just in and
over the weekend. It's on the preservation

1062
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:49,319
Brewery, Thank you so much.
And you got the pickleball courts, and

1063
01:15:49,359 --> 01:15:53,920
now you've got a country bar that's
coming in there. Then you've got oh

1064
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:58,359
really yeah, we're smoking hot chicks
wood. So there's a country bared by

1065
01:15:58,359 --> 01:16:00,000
the guy that we were. Oh
okay, you used to have a country

1066
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:05,199
about before. This is all in
somebody else's name. Oh okay, well,

1067
01:16:05,239 --> 01:16:12,800
let's hope so yeah, uh huh, that might be. I'm trying

1068
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:15,840
to do an ad for Iron Smoke. Guess my point. They have shown

1069
01:16:16,239 --> 01:16:21,680
that that place works, and they
are an award winning distillery, and I

1070
01:16:23,159 --> 01:16:28,399
can't think of anywhere I know that
Forbes magazine has written about one of the

1071
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:31,039
ten best Bourbons outside of Kentucky,
and not only that, it's a great

1072
01:16:31,079 --> 01:16:34,520
spot to go and take in some
live music and stuff. I love going

1073
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:40,520
in there. I love getting something
like the Peacemaker and then settling back and

1074
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:44,960
taking in some live music. Friday, April eleventh, your buddy and mine

1075
01:16:45,039 --> 01:16:48,840
m hm, Tyler Norton is going
to be doing the Acoustic Sunset sessions.

1076
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:51,760
And he's the guy from m eighties. Yes, and I think he also

1077
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:56,359
does live man karaoke. Is it
his band? Yes? Part of that,

1078
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:59,039
yeah, because that's a lot of
work. Oh yeah, yeah,

1079
01:16:59,159 --> 01:17:01,439
so Tyler great. So he's going
to be playing the Acoustics sun secessions and

1080
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:09,119
then if you're a dead fan,
starting at eight thirty, mud Creek playing

1081
01:17:09,159 --> 01:17:13,239
all your dead favorites. Oh yeah, an if our our buddy Cano will

1082
01:17:13,279 --> 01:17:16,079
be I was thinking of taking it
in the mud Creek show. I was

1083
01:17:16,079 --> 01:17:20,199
thinking of going on three hours,
four song, Yes, have four drinks

1084
01:17:20,199 --> 01:17:27,319
in three hours. Uh. And
then on Saturday, the thirteenth, come

1085
01:17:27,359 --> 01:17:30,760
back. It's Meyer and Maguire doing
the Acoutic sun Secessions. They begin a

1086
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:34,199
little earlier on Saturday at three thirty
and then Branded is going to be rocking

1087
01:17:34,279 --> 01:17:39,079
up country monk. Yeah, giddy
up band. Yeah. Are you familiar

1088
01:17:39,119 --> 01:17:41,720
with Branded? Yes? Okay,
yes, In fact, I think I

1089
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:45,279
played a fundraiser. I opened up
for them at one point, back at

1090
01:17:45,279 --> 01:17:49,000
twenty eighteen for junile diabetes. They
were the second band and they're very talented.

1091
01:17:49,039 --> 01:17:54,720
Yeah, very good. You never
asked, No, we weren't.

1092
01:17:55,279 --> 01:17:59,399
Oh yeah there's another band up here. Yeah, back to it. Okay,

1093
01:18:00,119 --> 01:18:02,840
that'll take our revenge things off from
the level I forgot all about it.

1094
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:06,239
I was so obsessed with the OJ
and the ninety eight year old Jack

1095
01:18:06,319 --> 01:18:10,880
Foyd, I could do like a
week's worth of podcast dot OJ. Yes,

1096
01:18:11,039 --> 01:18:15,079
well, maybe we need to start
the OJ podcast. Will timing's perfect

1097
01:18:15,119 --> 01:18:18,720
on that one. Get to this
for event way the Door Guy and Iron

1098
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:23,399
Smoke. Do you want to talk
about OJ? Sean, he'll talk OJ.

1099
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:26,279
He needs to think OJ did it, And every time I see him,

1100
01:18:26,319 --> 01:18:29,439
he's got a different theory as to
why, and they're convincing. I'll

1101
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:30,880
buy it. Well, maybe we
need to get him on the podcast next

1102
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:33,600
week. Okay, maybe we should
have our OJ theoristes I'd like it.

1103
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:40,880
Get Peter doesn't buy conspiracy theories that
what is going on? I feel like

1104
01:18:41,039 --> 01:18:44,319
we're what is? Who are you? Who are you? Any more?

1105
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:46,239
We'll take a moment and be right
back. Jimmy Z's Plates and Shakes,

1106
01:18:46,239 --> 01:18:49,640
you know they're right in step with
twenty twenty four. We had an eclipse

1107
01:18:50,199 --> 01:18:57,319
and Jimmy Z's has evolved. You
can now rent out the restaurant to entertain.

1108
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:00,199
Isn't that cool? Right there on
Main Street? Proc you can go

1109
01:19:00,399 --> 01:19:04,039
and maybe you're gonna have a reunion, right a Brockport reunion. Do it

1110
01:19:04,119 --> 01:19:10,279
right there Jimmy Z's find out how
at Platesinshakes dot com. You can also

1111
01:19:10,359 --> 01:19:14,359
get catering done by Jimmy Z's Plates
and Shakes Poppy handles all that and it

1112
01:19:14,399 --> 01:19:16,840
is delicious. Or how would you
like to have the food trucks show up?

1113
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:20,600
Maybe after your wedding reception, just
so everybody as they're leaving can get

1114
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:26,199
a Jimmy z Plates and Shakes shake
for the road. It's perfect. Jimmy

1115
01:19:26,279 --> 01:19:29,920
Z's Plates and Shakes evolve for twenty
twenty four. You can get the food

1116
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:31,479
truck, you can get the catering, you can rent out the restaurant.

1117
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:50,119
Find out more plates and Shakes dot
com. Yeah, baby love this collective

1118
01:19:50,159 --> 01:20:04,960
soul got a new album coming out. Playing around there just like this guy

1119
01:20:05,319 --> 01:20:20,840
sounded pretty good. He came to
town definitely before crumbled from your Digular Bridge

1120
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:25,439
days. But for the pandemic,
I hear there's some sad news going on.

1121
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:29,399
Yeah, so it looks like mark
March fourth, mark your calendars May

1122
01:20:29,399 --> 01:20:32,479
fourth. Excuse me, yes,
at Star Wars Day, Yeah, the

1123
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:36,239
fourth be with you. Yeah,
it won't be with the Vanity Project because

1124
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:40,760
that'll be our last show. I
was told tonight. Really, I found

1125
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:43,600
this out by asking, hey,
so when are we going to talk to

1126
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:46,880
about a new bassist? Like I
get the text message, Hey listen,

1127
01:20:47,079 --> 01:20:50,359
Uh, I think that's gonna be
our last show. I don't think the

1128
01:20:50,359 --> 01:20:55,520
guys want to do it anymore.
One guy who said that our drummer,

1129
01:20:56,399 --> 01:20:59,479
And I said, who's a great
guy, Phil And he's in Seventh Heaven

1130
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:02,760
too, and he's a couple other
bands and he like Karma And he said,

1131
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:10,000
uh no, the guys just there. There's three retirees in the band

1132
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:15,119
and they could only practice like a
mid afternoon. And Steve and I the

1133
01:21:15,159 --> 01:21:17,680
guitar player. He and I were
in Diglar's Bridge together. Can only practice

1134
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:20,000
at night. We can't. I
can't. We got to work during the

1135
01:21:20,039 --> 01:21:24,319
day, and so it's just it's
just a it's a timing thing, that's

1136
01:21:24,359 --> 01:21:28,159
all. So it's I got a
text from Phil as well. He said

1137
01:21:28,199 --> 01:21:31,920
that the band actually has a gig
after the fourth on May thirteenth with Sammy

1138
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:38,920
Hagar. So I saw something today
and I'm not just not Carrie Sharone.

1139
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:41,239
I was just trying to find it
on my phone and I got rid of

1140
01:21:41,319 --> 01:21:45,880
him. Mike Sterto, right,
yes, Michael Stato. He was Lou

1141
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:49,520
Graham's band. Mike used to come
on different iterations of my radio show over

1142
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:54,640
the years. Oh okay, a
lot of times when I did afternoons a

1143
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:59,000
long time ago. Uh, he
would come on, and I always liked

1144
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:02,680
Sterto, greatuitarists. He wound up
being a guitarist with the guests who so

1145
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:05,199
he puts something down. He goes, I don't know if this is real

1146
01:22:05,279 --> 01:22:13,640
or not, and that this could
prevent cover bands and live music happening in

1147
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:17,159
venues, which would really suck because
right now in the town we live in,

1148
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:25,920
this summer is going to be insane. There are three new restaurants coming

1149
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:30,680
to Fairport. Three new restaurants't be
able to play in right. One is

1150
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:33,079
the Cover Room, and I don't
know. I don't know if the Cover

1151
01:22:33,159 --> 01:22:35,960
Room will have live music or not, but they're coming here. There's a

1152
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:41,039
place that's going at the front of
the building that the pickleball courts and preservation

1153
01:22:41,119 --> 01:22:44,600
Brewery at the Cannery is in.
There's going to be another restaurant bar there.

1154
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:47,159
There's the country bar that's going in
the Cannery. And I think that

1155
01:22:47,279 --> 01:22:51,880
I know the guy who owns a
building that's under construction. That'll be something

1156
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:56,520
else. I mean, so that's
three, possibly four, and I'm sure

1157
01:22:56,560 --> 01:23:00,399
I'm missing something else. So that's
a lot and a lot of those places

1158
01:23:00,399 --> 01:23:02,279
have live music. And we just
told you about Iron Smoke. So Sterto

1159
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:06,399
played this piece of a guy and
I wish I could find it because I'm

1160
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:11,520
gonna I'm not gonna do it justice. But he's saying that, So this

1161
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:14,399
is I'm trying to make you feel
better. Oh okay, because live music

1162
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:17,039
is going away according to this guy. Guys like Burton Cummings who are no

1163
01:23:17,159 --> 01:23:21,000
longer with the guests who and we
could take Louke Graham who's no longer with

1164
01:23:21,079 --> 01:23:26,920
Foreigner Now, Burton Cummings wrote a
lot of those songs. Lou Graham did,

1165
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:29,439
but so did Mick Jones. Yes, right, Mick Jones who was

1166
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:33,640
in the class and then started Farner. So you've got uh So, I

1167
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:38,760
guess Cummings is going to like as
Cap and BM. I what I thought

1168
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:40,520
it was a different mic Jones in
the class. That might be a bit

1169
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:43,560
different Mic Jones. Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe that was my head's all over

1170
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:46,000
the place, That's right. He
was he was with Spooky Tooth, Spooky

1171
01:23:46,039 --> 01:23:50,279
Tooth. Yeah. Yeah, So
as we're so, he's going through and

1172
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:55,640
trying to say, I don't want
these guys playing my music without me.

1173
01:23:56,760 --> 01:24:00,560
I don't want the guess who to
go on basically without me. I was

1174
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:02,159
the guy. I was the guess
who. It's like what Dennis de Young

1175
01:24:02,159 --> 01:24:05,279
went on with all without sticks,
but would play sticks as songs. Yeah,

1176
01:24:05,359 --> 01:24:09,479
David Lee Roth would play the entire
van Halen step would do without van

1177
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:15,680
haal It right exactly. So what
he's saying is he wants to pull his

1178
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:21,000
music from the ascat BMI people,
right, yes, so, because what

1179
01:24:21,039 --> 01:24:27,720
they do is you just pay a
licensing fee back ASCAT BMI and then if

1180
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:30,800
then you're covered, you just play
that fee and anybody can come into your

1181
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:34,600
establishment and play any song and it's
fine. If it's an original of theirs,

1182
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:36,880
well that's different. But if it's
something else, there you go.

1183
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:42,039
And he's saying he wants to try
to pull that, and he's I guess

1184
01:24:42,079 --> 01:24:47,159
he's been successful because the guests who
had a show canceled like the night before,

1185
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:51,800
and the guy's going, this is
terrible because so many jobs are affected.

1186
01:24:53,239 --> 01:24:58,920
Parking attendance, right, people who
are security, concessions, all that

1187
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:03,159
stuff where people will make money didn't
happen. And he thinks it's because Burton

1188
01:25:03,159 --> 01:25:09,600
Cummings has been successful in pulling his
music from ASCAT b M I or whatever

1189
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:14,560
the po VS or POV's point of
view. And that's usually important. But

1190
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:19,479
what's so funny? You know that? Well, what I'm trying to say

1191
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:25,119
is I don't know what he was
using a different term for p r O

1192
01:25:25,239 --> 01:25:27,560
S or whatever. I think it
was p r oh. He's saying he's

1193
01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:30,720
pulling from the p r os.
So that way, if you want to

1194
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:33,880
use that music, he can charge
an astronomical licensing fee to you, and

1195
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:36,479
nobody's gonna want to pay it,
and if they pay it, then he

1196
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:41,479
can put a cease and desist.
It would really be hard for him to

1197
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:45,560
know that. Let's say at Iron
Smoke Distillery, someone got up and did

1198
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:51,479
a guest whose song and somebody calls
them, Yes, but what if you

1199
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:56,680
got what they did? Tyler Norton
did the other night? We played no

1200
01:25:56,840 --> 01:26:00,520
Sugar tonight in my coffee that's right, Yeah, it hit my tea.

1201
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:04,680
Yeah, so you could charge him
ten grand? Could that hit the jukebox

1202
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:08,439
too, because it's in the juke
box under that sure. Yeah. So

1203
01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:12,199
what you're saying is like they may
just take away the live music. I

1204
01:26:12,199 --> 01:26:15,720
don't know about that stuff because there's
usually but he's so you could take Burton

1205
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:20,920
Cummings music out of there. What
you can't do is probably know if Diggler's

1206
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:25,760
Bridge or whatever iteration of band Danny's
in, it's gonna jump up and play

1207
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:30,800
a guess who song. You may
have to preview the playlist. It probably

1208
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:33,359
won't happen, but it's an interesting
it's not gonna happen because he's doing it

1209
01:26:33,399 --> 01:26:36,680
to screw the best who. Yeah, that's what this is about. There's

1210
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:41,359
not people clamoring to hear the guess
who. There aren't enough people on the

1211
01:26:41,359 --> 01:26:44,479
planet who want to hear the guess
who would I mean, they play county

1212
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:47,600
fairs and it's I mean, that's
great, good for them, congratulations,

1213
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:50,800
that's awesome. But you know what, these guys are gonna pull their rights

1214
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:54,479
because they just don't want the band
to go on without him. That's what

1215
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:57,560
this is gonna pack live music.
No, because you're not gonna because it's

1216
01:26:57,600 --> 01:27:00,680
not gonna happen. They're still gonna
eventually the band are gonna screw with the

1217
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:02,239
band and say, Okay, I
want my money from ASKAP because we need

1218
01:27:02,279 --> 01:27:04,399
it. We need the royalty money. Well, you know who's got a

1219
01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:08,840
ben who doesn't the guess who?
You know who doesn't Dan Brilla. That's

1220
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:12,560
fair, that's fair, you're right, So don't shot on the guess who.

1221
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:16,880
Okay, I want Canadians. I
must have done something. I really

1222
01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:20,479
missed the Tragically him. I'm looking
at something in the recording that didn't go

1223
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:26,600
right. There's some tragically Hip cover
band coming here around strictly hip probably No,

1224
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:30,399
I don't think it was not different
one all right, Well soon I

1225
01:27:30,399 --> 01:27:32,439
don't know if this is his way
of getting a revenge for them going on

1226
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:34,560
or not. What are the point? What are you gonna do? You're

1227
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:38,199
gonna find another band? Or is
this it? You gotta retire? I'm

1228
01:27:38,239 --> 01:27:41,479
done, You're done. I'm done. No acoustic, no nothing. I've

1229
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:44,039
had enough unless some band wance comes
to. Hey, Dan, you want

1230
01:27:44,039 --> 01:27:46,399
to sing first? I'm not Dan
and Beth No. I love my wife

1231
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:51,479
dearly. Do you tell us why
I did can't work with you? Well,

1232
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:54,640
I just know I just don't think
we have she has the time to

1233
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:58,199
do it. Okay, I'd have
to learn about First of all, I'm

1234
01:27:58,199 --> 01:28:00,920
not the greatest guitar player, so
I have to bring somebody else in.

1235
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:02,279
I just I could play rhythm,
but I'm not a lead guitarist. Okay,

1236
01:28:02,399 --> 01:28:04,039
so you have to bring in somebody
else to play lead. And I

1237
01:28:04,039 --> 01:28:06,359
have a guy who would do that. And then we have to learn all

1238
01:28:06,399 --> 01:28:11,199
these songs that Beth would know.
But you're talking about playing acoustically, and

1239
01:28:11,239 --> 01:28:15,840
to be honest with you, acoustics
acoustic shows are like background noise. Nobody's

1240
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:17,399
watching here. They're just kind of
eating and drinking and just having a good

1241
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:19,159
They're not. They don't care that
they band. It's up there, but

1242
01:28:19,159 --> 01:28:21,760
you got a drummer back there.
All of a sudden people pay attention.

1243
01:28:23,159 --> 01:28:24,920
And it's a lot of work.
And I don't know if I have the

1244
01:28:25,359 --> 01:28:29,159
strength to just go and do that
again and start from scratch. He doesn't

1245
01:28:29,159 --> 01:28:31,680
want to have fun. I could
play. My wife's more talented than I

1246
01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:35,439
am, and she's a powerhouse.
She could play seven instruments. She could

1247
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:40,399
sing amazingly. But I just it's
it's just hard. It's a lot of

1248
01:28:40,399 --> 01:28:43,920
work. Now, if a band
came to me with nineties type of music

1249
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:46,479
it said, hey, could you
sing for us? I would I would

1250
01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:48,960
look at it and say, yeah, if this looks like a great opportunity,

1251
01:28:49,239 --> 01:28:53,319
sure I'll do that. But as
far as starting a band from scratch

1252
01:28:53,399 --> 01:28:56,239
goes no. I might have a
band that needs a singer. Okay,

1253
01:28:56,920 --> 01:29:00,800
who's a Stephanie. I've been I
need a singer with Stephanie. I it's

1254
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:04,960
band Halloween. Yeah yeah, well
they they maybe your next gig. Maybe

1255
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:13,640
it would be great, but would
be like a billified band. I'll tell

1256
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:16,680
you what. I'll tell you what. If you can find a place to

1257
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:20,880
practice and a bunch of people who
actually are talented and want to actually start

1258
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:25,359
a nineties coachers talked about this.
Right now, we just gave you two

1259
01:29:25,359 --> 01:29:29,520
people. Then let's let's that they
show up and like, well, Okay,

1260
01:29:30,199 --> 01:29:31,760
I might be game for that.
It might be game for that.

1261
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:35,840
Retirement, it's coming out of retirement. But it's it's hard starting to band.

1262
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:39,800
It's hard. Book of gigs and
like not to mention it. It's

1263
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:45,039
it's a pain. Ask anybody who
plays. Ask Randy Flucker man. Randy

1264
01:29:45,039 --> 01:29:46,880
Flucker will tell you all about how
hard it is. I think Randy's gonna

1265
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:50,720
come on, uh next week.
He's had a huge thing he's announcing.

1266
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:54,399
I think they're rolling it out at
the end of this week. Okay,

1267
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:59,159
actually fest and then and then he'll
be in next week. It is not

1268
01:29:59,199 --> 01:30:06,800
Fluckerfest. Speaking of revenge, we
just had total solar eclipse that has me

1269
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:12,359
it's been heavy on my mind,
the solar eclipse, to the point where

1270
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:21,000
I am now trying to wrestle with
the philosophical question did God create or is

1271
01:30:21,159 --> 01:30:28,199
God in the creation? In other
words, did God step back and create

1272
01:30:28,239 --> 01:30:33,760
everything? Or is God in the
creation of everything? And my mind is

1273
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:38,319
He's in the creation of everything that's
always evolving. And I say that because

1274
01:30:38,359 --> 01:30:41,199
you don't come here and start over. It's evolving. You pick up where

1275
01:30:41,199 --> 01:30:45,319
others left off. Okay, so
God created everything, and I think his

1276
01:30:45,319 --> 01:30:50,159
fingerprint is on everything. But is
he well right, but did he create

1277
01:30:50,199 --> 01:30:53,600
it and let it go? Or
did he create it? And it's ever

1278
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:56,960
expanding and ever evolving. And I
would say it's ever expanding and ever evolving.

1279
01:30:57,520 --> 01:31:00,479
Okay, and it takes care of
itself. Is a long philosophical question.

1280
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:05,079
But that's but yes, there is. This is a this is a

1281
01:31:05,239 --> 01:31:09,680
this is a heavy thing that I've
been talking to people about. My band

1282
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:11,800
just broke up, and now you
want to hit you with that. I'm

1283
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:14,640
going to write some stuff and I'm
going to read some philosopher, but I'm

1284
01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:17,239
going to come to my conclusion first. I have to do that. However,

1285
01:31:17,439 --> 01:31:24,199
we had that, and we know
that hotels were charging more money because

1286
01:31:24,199 --> 01:31:29,600
they could loss applying to man.
Yeah. On Reddit, a woman tells

1287
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:35,920
a story that she booked a hotel
room very far in advance in an area

1288
01:31:36,079 --> 01:31:40,319
she won't say where it is,
that was going to be in totality,

1289
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:48,520
and she got a very cheap rate, cheaper cheaper than the four ninety motel

1290
01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:56,640
the overnight of the hourly overnight,
she got a sixty five dollars rate according

1291
01:31:56,640 --> 01:32:02,720
to her on Reddit okay, which
I guess it could possibly be off season.

1292
01:32:03,079 --> 01:32:05,800
That just seems really low. We
would need to know where she was.

1293
01:32:05,880 --> 01:32:10,079
Well, she doesn't say, right, and because what she claims the

1294
01:32:10,479 --> 01:32:16,079
room rate went to is light years
ahead. So she said that she received

1295
01:32:16,079 --> 01:32:19,760
a notice from the hotel that her
room had been canceled due to a quote

1296
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:26,520
unquote computer error. Okay, And
she writes this all out on social media,

1297
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:31,159
and when she checked back with the
hotel, she then discovered that every

1298
01:32:31,239 --> 01:32:35,439
room in the hotel had been jacked
up to seven hundred dollars a night.

1299
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:42,439
Now, I don't know how you
convinced somebody a sixty five dollars because I

1300
01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:45,600
have a family that works in those
places. It works in high end places

1301
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:49,680
like you're where my brother is.
You could pay up to one thousand dollars

1302
01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:54,560
a night to stay at the resort
he's part of, and he's the head

1303
01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:59,159
sales guy, and he's been brought
into I shouldn't say this, but he's

1304
01:32:59,159 --> 01:33:02,399
been brought into con A on Canadigua
in on the lake and has told them

1305
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:08,720
that they undercharged at six or four
hundred dollars a night. Okay, So

1306
01:33:09,079 --> 01:33:13,199
I'm just saying, like those are
the play They're never charging sixty five dollars

1307
01:33:13,239 --> 01:33:15,880
a night. Ever, at any
point in the season are they charging sixty

1308
01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:20,119
five dollars a night. So that's
why the sixty five jump to seven hundred

1309
01:33:20,199 --> 01:33:26,560
jump sounds like bullshit to me.
But I continue with the story. So

1310
01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:30,359
the woman uh did the only thing
that she could think to do. She

1311
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:35,600
decided to call and she had her
friends do this. They all called and

1312
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:40,840
they booked every room in the hotel
that was available at the seven hundred dollars

1313
01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:47,399
a night right, And they waited
until the free cancelation time of four pm

1314
01:33:47,479 --> 01:33:50,960
the day before, and they canceled
all of them. So on Sunday at

1315
01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:55,880
three point thirty, they called and
canceled all the rooms that they had.

1316
01:33:56,279 --> 01:34:01,800
Ah. Now, I don't know
where this is. I don't know if

1317
01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:05,960
this is that sixty five to seven
hundred seems like an astronomical jump, Like

1318
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:10,720
I if you told me sixty five
to three point fifty, I could buy

1319
01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:13,920
it a little bit more. Anyway, that does every hotel if you look

1320
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:16,720
in the back of the door.
Every hotel has that they call rack rate,

1321
01:34:16,720 --> 01:34:19,800
which is that highest rate they can
charge for that room. Okay,

1322
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:24,199
it's always posted in the room,
so I mean a lot of the rooms

1323
01:34:24,239 --> 01:34:29,279
are astronomically priced, so they have
that window to move up and down.

1324
01:34:29,399 --> 01:34:31,960
Okay, sixty five to seven hundred. I mean, it's just okay,

1325
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:38,479
it's very podcast. If she's in
a summer type setting where it's like a

1326
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:42,920
summer spa and summer activities, the
winner, they're not going to be in

1327
01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:45,479
there. No, they're not going
to be charged in that. But hell,

1328
01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:48,399
if you go to any place around
here, it's probably one hundred and

1329
01:34:48,680 --> 01:34:54,399
I would say one hundred and fifteen
dollars a night would be average. Take

1330
01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:58,800
any hotel, That's what I'm thinking. And you've hell, you go to

1331
01:34:59,079 --> 01:35:02,640
every cold ass placed with hockey.
So the thing the hotel we stay when

1332
01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:05,079
we stayed in the Lake Placid,
we get in the winter, we get

1333
01:35:05,079 --> 01:35:09,479
it for like two hundred bucks a
night, Okay in the summer. I

1334
01:35:09,479 --> 01:35:11,560
looked at it one year just because
I'm like, hey, let's go back

1335
01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:15,039
in summer when it's not you know, minus fifty degrees there sixty, taking

1336
01:35:15,079 --> 01:35:19,000
around six six seventy five night,
seventy night. Yeah, for the same

1337
01:35:19,039 --> 01:35:21,720
hotel, stay right out in the
lake, right right across the street,

1338
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:27,119
right, so I need Tobago.
No, well, all right, So

1339
01:35:27,199 --> 01:35:30,760
by the mid so by the time
midnight, which would be the morning of

1340
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:36,520
the eclipse came around, the hotel
appeared to have plenty of vacancies. So

1341
01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:41,239
is this a good revenge? Because
I go, I could see the satisfaction

1342
01:35:41,399 --> 01:35:44,279
in being pissed off. And it's
pretty shitty to say we had a computer

1343
01:35:44,479 --> 01:35:46,680
error and and and not. That's
the first time I've heard that that.

1344
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:50,920
I've never heard of that happening.
But again that doesn't mean it doesn't I

1345
01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:54,840
think where I was where I heard
that there were places, the hotels that

1346
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:58,239
are just canceling people and then jacking
up the race seems fucking betty to mean,

1347
01:35:58,279 --> 01:36:00,640
it was terrible if you, if
you planned your trip and you were

1348
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:04,239
smart enough to have the force.
Look, my sister's trying now to book

1349
01:36:04,279 --> 01:36:12,199
Airbnb and two years out for the
eclipse in Portugal. They won't they won't

1350
01:36:12,199 --> 01:36:15,560
do it. Okay, they will
not allow They say it's too far out,

1351
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:19,960
and sure it is because they don't
know what they can. I'm sure

1352
01:36:20,039 --> 01:36:24,520
you're waiting to see what is your
competition going to do? What are the

1353
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:30,680
hotels going to do? What are
what's the other or whatever? But whatever,

1354
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:33,880
what's what's a competition to Airbnb?
And what are they going to do?

1355
01:36:33,880 --> 01:36:36,840
And where can we price ourselves and
make the most amount of profit?

1356
01:36:38,119 --> 01:36:41,079
Right, So I'm sure that's why
they do it. It's a lot of

1357
01:36:41,119 --> 01:36:45,159
work, but holy it is.
But man, I give credit for the

1358
01:36:45,159 --> 01:36:47,640
fact that they actually did it.
That's almost like that's as close as that's

1359
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:54,880
almost that's almost like bankrupting a casino. I almost hoped that. I almost

1360
01:36:54,920 --> 01:36:59,399
wish that they called it three thirty. I wish that one or two were

1361
01:36:59,399 --> 01:37:00,840
a little late. Yeah, and
they're stuck with, you know, three

1362
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:04,000
rooms at seven hundred bucks a night, just for being petty assholes. Yeah,

1363
01:37:04,159 --> 01:37:08,600
there is something about the petty asshole
that I kind of I feel you

1364
01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:11,880
of that. I don't know why
I have. It's conflicting because I get

1365
01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:15,159
your frustration and it is a shitty
thing, but I don't know. I

1366
01:37:15,199 --> 01:37:18,000
go, oh, I got screwed
on this one. Yeah, moving on,

1367
01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:20,680
But that and that is a lot
of work, and you got to

1368
01:37:21,119 --> 01:37:26,000
you know, you know this woman
and this is a woman. And I'm

1369
01:37:26,039 --> 01:37:29,760
saying it, ladies, this is
a woman. No guys spending the Now

1370
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:32,560
guys calling up, Hey Dan,
do me a favor, call this hotel

1371
01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:35,279
and book a room. Well,
actually, now they think about it.

1372
01:37:35,399 --> 01:37:39,840
I just thought of four guys I
could get. I I can see getting

1373
01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:44,960
that call from. I almost wonder
if this is also crap, that she

1374
01:37:45,119 --> 01:37:48,920
maybe have booked this room not at
sixty five dollars but at something else and

1375
01:37:49,119 --> 01:37:55,279
was second handing it, trying to
putting it on Facebook market or whatever.

1376
01:37:55,399 --> 01:38:00,720
Oh he needs a room. Oh, Danny's a room. Uh, you're

1377
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:05,840
sub letting your hotel. You're sub
letting your hotel room. That's interesting.

1378
01:38:06,399 --> 01:38:11,119
Never thought of that. But how
would so how well, you'd have to

1379
01:38:11,199 --> 01:38:15,279
be a really hot event, oh
like the solar eclipse that you really wanted

1380
01:38:15,319 --> 01:38:18,279
to get to. And I'm paying
the sixty five dollars rate, but I'm

1381
01:38:18,279 --> 01:38:20,960
going to charge you seven hundred.
You pay me, and then I'll just

1382
01:38:21,039 --> 01:38:26,079
leave my credit card there. Yeah, yeah, all incidentals everything on me.

1383
01:38:26,319 --> 01:38:32,279
Just pay me the seven hundred out
of that card. Incidentals up to

1384
01:38:32,319 --> 01:38:35,800
one hundred dollars of that. That's
two bottles of water in a bag of

1385
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:39,199
nuts in the fridge. I'll tell
you when I used to lift drive.

1386
01:38:39,319 --> 01:38:42,039
It was one Valentine's Day, I
think it was twenty sixteen or something.

1387
01:38:42,119 --> 01:38:46,239
I drove a couple. They're in
separate houses. Both had rings on to

1388
01:38:46,319 --> 01:38:50,680
the four ninety motel. Oh yeah, oh yeah. I enabled an affair.

1389
01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:54,640
Didn't know it at the time.
Didn't know at the time, but

1390
01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:58,159
I'm like, huh okay, oh
look, it's not the affair that I'm

1391
01:38:58,439 --> 01:39:02,600
owing, it's the four motel I'm
going we called there. I was like,

1392
01:39:03,039 --> 01:39:08,079
that's nasty. It sounds nasty,
like I I That's another thing I

1393
01:39:08,159 --> 01:39:12,560
wanted to start. I may start
doing just many documentaries and things and try

1394
01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:15,800
to go and just talk to the
iPad. I was gonna walk around and

1395
01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:16,960
plug it in, but I never
got around to. You know what,

1396
01:39:18,039 --> 01:39:23,920
charge We got charge right there,
thank you. I will pause for just

1397
01:39:23,960 --> 01:39:36,760
one moment that all out the other
side of course, yeh church, fuck

1398
01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:39,640
the fortn Idea. By the way, we'll go to the gates. That

1399
01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:43,760
lady was personable. Well that's the
thing, is the the the lady at

1400
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:47,720
the gates motel was very personable,
but the uh so like going and talk

1401
01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:51,600
to the talking to them to me
would be really interesting, like what goes

1402
01:39:51,760 --> 01:39:56,279
not what goes on there? But
you know what goes on there. You

1403
01:39:56,359 --> 01:40:00,479
know what goes on there. Do
you ever worry that you're an ex gessary

1404
01:40:00,680 --> 01:40:04,199
to a crime or you do?
Marley? Does it bother you that you

1405
01:40:04,319 --> 01:40:09,920
may be an accessory to an affair? Have you found a body on ice

1406
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:15,319
missing a kidney? Yeah, I'm
just I was just doing my job.

1407
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:16,520
I know, I know. I
didn't feel bad about him, Like,

1408
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:18,720
if that's what you want to do, Hey, how was you tip?

1409
01:40:19,039 --> 01:40:25,039
What? They didn't? So they
didn't tip? Sons of bitches. There's

1410
01:40:25,039 --> 01:40:27,600
certain people that tip and certain people
who don't. I'd have gone back to

1411
01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:30,319
the first house of the guy and
I've been knocked the door. Hey,

1412
01:40:30,800 --> 01:40:33,399
room seventy three, there was one
knock in the door. There was one

1413
01:40:33,399 --> 01:40:38,119
guy picked up around that time who
swore up and down that he went to

1414
01:40:38,199 --> 01:40:42,720
high school with Dave Mustaine from Metallica
and Megadeath, that Dave Mustaine grew up

1415
01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:46,720
in Batavia, which we know is
not true, and that he that that

1416
01:40:47,199 --> 01:40:53,399
Lemmy from motorhead paid for his wedding. This guy was so cracked out and

1417
01:40:53,439 --> 01:40:56,239
I had to drop. I had
to bring him to a place where the

1418
01:40:56,239 --> 01:41:00,319
windows are like kind of like plastic
and boarded up, and he top it

1419
01:41:00,439 --> 01:41:01,119
right out and he comes out with
the bag. I'm like, oh,

1420
01:41:01,159 --> 01:41:03,319
I know what this is all about. He goes, hey, can you

1421
01:41:03,359 --> 01:41:10,079
do a small slow crawl by my
old lady's house trove by? I just

1422
01:41:10,119 --> 01:41:13,359
want to see she's messing around on
me. Man, Like, this dude

1423
01:41:13,479 --> 01:41:18,119
is far Oh that's funny. I
think we're back on the cameras. We

1424
01:41:18,119 --> 01:41:23,760
had a iPad ran out of juice
and I didn't ever plugged in. Everything's

1425
01:41:23,800 --> 01:41:28,520
right here now too. It's like
it's sloppy. If for somebody else i'd

1426
01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:30,760
be yelling with this is sloppy.
The barrier to enter for your cables is

1427
01:41:31,119 --> 01:41:34,039
right there. No, I got
rid of the barrier to entry. I

1428
01:41:34,079 --> 01:41:38,199
did. I got rid of the
barrier to entry on purpose and now and

1429
01:41:38,239 --> 01:41:40,560
now it's all right there. But
I think I want to go out and

1430
01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:45,720
talk to that lady and and interview
her. There's a lot of projects I

1431
01:41:45,720 --> 01:41:49,239
want to do. I got a
lot of things happening and none of them.

1432
01:41:49,279 --> 01:41:54,079
Has anybody ever done a reality show
about a hotel with hourly rates?

1433
01:41:55,039 --> 01:42:00,000
Does anybody's creak? Oh yeah,
a reality show? Though I don't know.

1434
01:42:00,439 --> 01:42:01,640
I never thought that show. I
never found that show funny. I

1435
01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:04,239
never watched it. I watched it. I thought it was funny, did

1436
01:42:04,279 --> 01:42:08,560
you. Yeah, I couldn't get
into it. Well, because you don't

1437
01:42:08,600 --> 01:42:14,560
like gay people. That's not who's
gay. Son is definitely gay. He's

1438
01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:17,079
very flamboyant. He's got a boyfriend
on the show. I'm pretty sure.

1439
01:42:17,199 --> 01:42:21,239
Yeah. My wife and I used
to watch Project Runway. It's a show

1440
01:42:24,279 --> 01:42:28,279
you watch there. They were focused
on on stuff. God, I know

1441
01:42:28,319 --> 01:42:30,279
you, that's not That's not how
I operate. That's that I don't like

1442
01:42:30,399 --> 01:42:34,680
gay people. Fanity projects never played
in Elton Johnson. They haven't. I

1443
01:42:34,680 --> 01:42:41,119
would love I would love to play
it. They don't play Elton john George

1444
01:42:41,159 --> 01:42:45,960
Michael, anything from Michael, not
a gosh thing, nothing, no,

1445
01:42:46,479 --> 01:42:51,079
nothing else we have. Come on, you're out of your gay artists?

1446
01:42:51,079 --> 01:42:57,319
Aready? How's that? Pilosis Ethridge? Yeah she was yeah, uh she

1447
01:42:57,479 --> 01:43:00,800
is? Oh yeah, Melissa Ethers
and I like Meliss. She had some

1448
01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:03,560
good stuff. Little Richard I don't
know daviled it out? Do you think

1449
01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:08,079
so? Oh he admitted it?
Oh okay, admitted it? Oh yeah?

1450
01:43:08,119 --> 01:43:20,119
Who else did boy go both ways
to allegedly tongue there? Who's the

1451
01:43:20,239 --> 01:43:24,840
Who's the guy from England that had
a couple of hits in Rod Stewart?

1452
01:43:25,279 --> 01:43:31,479
Well Rod, Now this is amazing
to me because stories went viral before viral

1453
01:43:31,640 --> 01:43:35,520
was a thing. And his was
that his stomach had to be pumped because

1454
01:43:35,520 --> 01:43:39,960
he had so much, isn't it? And I think he addressed it.

1455
01:43:40,079 --> 01:43:44,640
I think he addressed that. I'm
pretty sure he did, okay, and

1456
01:43:44,640 --> 01:43:48,720
that it wasn't true. Who's the
the guy though? That's gone very uh.

1457
01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:50,920
I think he just does it to
try to get a reaction out of

1458
01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:58,760
people. Now, but modern singer
Sam Allett, Sam go Say, Sam

1459
01:43:58,760 --> 01:44:01,960
Elliott, Sam Sam Smith, Sam
Smith, he'say, yeah, no he

1460
01:44:02,119 --> 01:44:05,119
is. Yeah, but he goes
way over the top sometimes. Oh yeah,

1461
01:44:05,159 --> 01:44:09,039
we'll just devil outfits. Yeah,
he was the rapper that did this,

1462
01:44:09,199 --> 01:44:13,760
the little nas X No he's gay. No, the other one the

1463
01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:21,239
one that did the old time wrote
yeah, that's yeah. Gavin Rossdale from

1464
01:44:21,239 --> 01:44:26,000
Bush supposed that like actually there were
stories about him. He actually lived with

1465
01:44:26,000 --> 01:44:30,119
the dude for a while, and
boy George actually wrote about in his biography,

1466
01:44:30,159 --> 01:44:31,920
and they asked Gavin about it.
He says, there's probably a long

1467
01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:34,720
line of people who are going to
be suing boy George. And then the

1468
01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:39,039
guy who boy George said he had
the affair with it. Oh yeah,

1469
01:44:39,039 --> 01:44:42,119
no, it's it's true. Gavin
and I lived together for several years.

1470
01:44:42,159 --> 01:44:45,680
Really. That guy was park Wall. He hate push and leaves. Hey,

1471
01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:48,600
oh he living three guys at one
point, didn't you. Oh yeah,

1472
01:44:48,680 --> 01:44:54,960
yeah. One of them was homeless. It was taking all kinds and

1473
01:44:55,319 --> 01:44:58,600
didn't matter. Hey, hard times, work, hard times, hard times.

1474
01:44:58,840 --> 01:45:04,680
All right, we will Jesus was
homeless, was he? Yeah,

1475
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:09,199
just one more time. I have
to hear it one more time. According

1476
01:45:09,199 --> 01:45:12,920
to retailers, the most popular Halloween
mass this year is O. J.

1477
01:45:13,159 --> 01:45:17,439
Simpson and the most popular Halloween greeting
is I'll kill you and that guy who's

1478
01:45:17,439 --> 01:45:21,960
bringing over your glasses or treats.
I just love that. I'm sorry,

1479
01:45:23,239 --> 01:45:26,239
I just added to this. You
do yourself. If you're go to YouTube,

1480
01:45:26,319 --> 01:45:30,520
you type in Norm McDonald jay and
just get every minute ten minutes and

1481
01:45:30,520 --> 01:45:33,039
we got to I'm gonna keep trying
to get our buddy Tim Grant, and

1482
01:45:33,039 --> 01:45:35,479
I know he was very busy today, but he's done the interviews and he

1483
01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:41,239
wrote that about Norm McDonald no Jay
possibly burying the knife, I mean the

1484
01:45:41,279 --> 01:45:46,039
hatchet up between them. For Dan
Marilla who's bandless. For Kevin Muir,

1485
01:45:46,840 --> 01:45:51,520
who knows that hotels post their most
expensive rate right on the back of the

1486
01:45:51,520 --> 01:45:57,199
door. It's good information. For
our ninety eight year old friend Jack Foy.

1487
01:45:57,279 --> 01:46:00,359
I'm Bill Moran. Will see you
Monday.