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hey, bridicads, here's truly here. Will we ever hear that again?
Next World, cold Ex World. That's all right, Uh, already texts
coming in all day long. Things have been coming. But just before we
got on the just before we went on the air, we're on the podcast,
I should say, fired it up, fired up the cylinders. I
did get a message from someone saying, I am so excited to hear you
talk about O. J. Simpson. Somebody else said he had a real
love hate relationship with O J. Simpson, and I would say that that's
probably true. Why are we hearing more than one thing I just met?
You got something to run into the background, Okay, I don't know what
that would be. Man, It's it's so weird to me because there were
so many things that happened today that are sort of this parallel to O J.
Simpson. I'll just say this, Uh, you're gonna hear about O
J. Simpson everywhere. Everywhere you turn, You're going to find and hear
about OJ. But I think that we'll have maybe a different look at at
O. J. Simpson throughout the uh looking forward to this podcast. I
mean I sent you the text like literally like a minute, I'm on Twitter
all of a sudden, Well you were the first this tweet podcast from OJ
Simpson. I hadn't seen anything, and I'm like, whoa, and I
send it to you. Yeah, and I'm like, hey, uh,
thanks for the text deck. Well, I mean I figured you'd figure it
out. Well, you're the king of memes and stuff, so I figured
you probably get all the juice memes like lined up and ready to go.
All they're ready. So but I I mean OJ was a big part of
my childhood growing up, first watching him as a Bills fan, because when
the Bills were on the rise, he was working at NBC Sports and he
was Buffalo's biggest ambassador, not just for the Bills but for the city of
Buffalo. I mean, this is a rest belt city that was dying,
and OJ Simpson made it sound like Buffalo, even though his actions didn't speak
the same way. He made it sound like Buffalo was like the greatest place
in the world, and he was Buffalo's ticket to the big time. He
really was before Kelly, before the anything. He's the one. He's a
big reason why we still have the Bills, O J. Simpson and then
all of a sudden June twelfth, nineteen ninety four, he throws it all
away, allegedly. And then can you imagine the nineties without the O J.
Simpsons fiasco? What would the nineties be defined by just the Clintons maybe,
or would also be or the Internet? The Internet the Clintons, I
think you could also say grunge. Yeah, but Crunch kind of died after
a couple of years. I think I wrote to an article or column in
The Times that's gonna come out Saturday, I said, the nineties were really
defined by three things. The Clinton's being in the White House, both of
them right, the Internet because it changed everything. And OJ Simpson. Yeah,
the O J. Simpson. O J. Simpson to me was I
think at one point in America you could have asked anybody from seventy to seventy
and said OJ, and I think they would have known who you were talking
about. OJ. Simpson was a beloved athlete. He was a great college
athlete, Heisman Trophy winner, goes on to the Buffalo Bills, it's all
kinds of records. Retires with his hometown team, the San Francisco forty nine
Ers. He's a Bay guy. He goes on to be a broadcaster,
he goes on to do comedy. He's I think it was Jeff Ross put
up there. This one really hurts hg Rtz because he did the Hurts commercials,
he did the Isitner gloves, he did everything, and then it switched.
And I think that that trial you can look at from so many socio
I'll call it sociological aspects. In terms of reality television. I really think
it was sort of the birth of reality television that people were glued to that
trial twenty four to seven. Most people remember exactly where they were when the
verdict came down. Oh yeah, I do. And I think you can
also see the racial divide in this country at that time and today. And
I think you can talk about domestic violence being swept under the rug. I
think that all those things became I mean, those are the things that still
plague us today. They really are. And when you go back whether or
not he did it, and I'm gonna I can play you a former juror
who says you didn't get to see all the evidence that we got to see.
But you know, you'll read articles and opinion pieces that are already out
on the internet and from various news. Somebody said, look, I worked
for the Miami Herald. Every white person let out of the gas and every
black person cheered in the newsroom. I don't know, you go back just
a few months prior to the to that whole thing with OJ, or just
a few years prior. Excuse me, you had the Rodney King deal where
the police beat the shit out of this guy, and then people rioted in
the city after that. So you had such a racial divide. It was
such a hotbit. And Mark Furman and the N word came out in the
trial. I mean, when you talk, they take all the sensational stuff
out of it, just on the surface, just from a race standpoint.
Boy, did that expose a lot of stuff. Yeah, I mean it
really did. I mean it brought it brought a lot to light. And
I remember coming home from school every day we think OJ kept my grandmother alive
because like she was something to look forward to her. Yeah, because every
day at noon, because they're on the West Coast, OJ's on and then
CNN would have it, and then when they went to commercial, oh we
we got to move to E they'd switched to e it spowned TV. Yeah,
oh yeah, courtees okay, and which was basically kind of reality TV,
right, I mean yeah, without on that It's Bond the Kardashians because
the Menendez brothers trial and then William Kennedy Smith were covered on CNN, but
not to the extent that OJ was. Court TV came out because of OJ.
CNN was like showing like trials beforecause they had to cover something was twenty
four hour news. But OJ's what really like, Kevin said, that sort
of led to reality TV, not necessarily scripted reality TV. But you know
one when people will go away, hang on a second, we need to
make a money off this. It can't go well. That cops Yeah,
well, the Real the Real World was a thing, uh, starting in
ninety two, they had the Real Word New York, then the Real World
LA, then Real World San Francisco. Yeah, but I mean that wasn't
as widespread as Court TV or Cops I mean cops from something the networks.
Well, yeah, but it was still MTV. It was still part of
the gen x lexicon for young people, you know, saying like reality shows
like Survivors were spawned off OJ. Really if you think about it, like
like A ninety eight is when Survivor came out and all of a sudden,
oh wow, this is a competition with real people. Yeah, you know,
it's just uh, it's crazy. Now here is that piece that we
played before. It's so weird because we've had a lot of conversations about OJ
on this podcast over the years. I have been fascinated, absolutely fascinated by
OJ Simpson. Oh me too, fascinated is capatonia. You're obsessed with OJ,
Dan, I'm done trying to book him to just so I'm not obsessed
with OJ. But I'm like, I'm fascinated that you could be. I
mean, the only thing I can think in modern time, modern times,
but that is as close to it is another black man, Bill Cosby.
To go from beloved to pariah, beloved to pariah in a nanosecond, it
seems like. But but again, I think that it's a it's a very
big thing. Like all the domestic abuse that came out, all the domestic
violence that came out between he and Nicole. I don't know that I don't.
We didn't know it was kind of but there were people who knew it
was. It was reported but quietly reported. Well you know what I'm saying,
like, there's fuj, he's OJ. We love OJ. Yeah,
we know this guy. It's uncle Juice, right, he ain't gonna hurt
the old body. It was even on television, remember that show uh with
Roy Firestone called First Look or Sports Look whatever, Yeah, and then became
later known as Up Closed. It was on before Sports Center like five thirty
and he's talking with OJ about it and OJ starts giving him this dirty look
like why are you bringing this up? And you could see Roy Firestone backpedaling.
But it's New Year's Eve and you've had a few drinks. So he
brings it up, but then he kind of softens it and then he lets
Oj kind of oj' splain away. What happened that this is long before ninety
four. Oh the Murderers was the violent Yeah, And they showed this Made
in America documentary by Ezra Edelman that won an oscar on ESPN. This is
OJ with the reporter that we had played this before where she's interviewing and she
had walked around That was with the one piece that always annoyed me, and
I'm sure other people see it and go, well, yeah, good for
that woman. I think it was at the Santa Monica peer and they're filming
him out in public, and some lady walks up and goes, I always
might to shake the hand of a murderer, And I go, you're such
a narcissistic bitch because you did nothing. He did absolutely nothing to change the
world. He did nothing to make the Goldman family feel better, the Brown
family feeling You just made yourself feel better, and you can brag to your
friends you're a narcissist. But in terms of OJ, in that story,
the piece where he comes at the woman faking with a banana when she answers
the doord, this is how it actually unfolded in that piece. If you
promise is that you will not ask me another question about to ask you again,
we won't have to talk about it anymore. Just did you do it?
No? I didn't, No, I didn't know. I did not
do it. Okay, Now, after we finished filming, OJ said to
me that he had a surprise for me, and I genuinely was surprised.
I think it was his idea of a joke, and this is it.
She knocks on the door and he answers with the banana, and he goes,
that's him making that noise, Like, how can you Here's the thing,
at one point in time, you loved Nicole Brown Simpson, or you
or or you at least liked her, Okay, let's put it that way,
and you have children with her. To even joke about, I couldn't
imagine you would. You're accused of this, do you understand, and you
go on trial for it, you are found by a jury of your peers
to be not guilty, so you walk free, and then I wouldn't make
light of it. No, I couldn't do that, not unless you're in
the fact that you did it and you know it, and you resigned the
fact that everybody else knows you did it. Well, I mean, somebody
sent me like right after you, So you hit me before I saw any
news outlets. You were first before Dan Burillo an X he saw it.
He sent it to me, and I texted Greg Connors and I texted Peter
Montimrno. Peter's like, I don't know I should feel about this, Peter,
what do you mean? But he goes, No, I'm conflicted about
it because he goes. I really got into the trial. I went to
the house where it happened. I read the books about it, you know,
and it's like, that's what he goes. That's where I'm make because
I have no doubt that he did it. It's awful, But it's like
I paid so much attention to this, and I'm wondering, should I have
somebody I feel the same way. I had a conversation with Greg about it
too, more of along the lines of will the Bills put out a statement
They can't. I don't think they can. And he agreed with you.
He said, unless they can't do it for him, can't they can't do
it for any player. And I said, well, by that logic,
then they can't do it for Jim Kelly. They can't do it for Marv.
They will, I remember, it will for those guys. They won't
for I. Remember this is this is OJ is not even gonna be we
talked about, but he's been on their wall of fame. He won't.
He won't be on their new here in the loss of OJ. I remember,
I remember when OJ got off, they went to the stadium all the
news outlets went to the stadium. Now it's during the NFL season, it
was during the ninety five season, and they asked Kelly, they asked certain
players what they had to say. Kelly goes, I'm glad OJ got off,
like that's that's what that's what Kelly said. This team itself, though,
issued a two words statement no comment. Yeah, because you can't.
OJ was on the sidelines for a lot of their AFC Championship games, covering
them, like ninety two, ninety three. He was there. Yes,
now this happens, and I don't think he'll be on the Wall of Fame,
and you're never gonna know one way or the other. He did come
back to games. It has been perplexing to me because to see people pose
with him. A lot of people who pose in the pictures, I don't
know, we're even born when he when this heinous, oh yeah, blonde
white women, and it's a very it's just a very very strange deal to
me. I you mentioned that my cousins did security for the Bills during that
era when when the Bills were on there when they're Heyday and and they and
OJ and NBC would come to cover the AFC Championship Game. Three of those
four years that they went to the Super Bowl. The third year they were
a wildcard team. They were on the road and OJ was there for every
one of them, and he said, the shocking thing this is like,
this is about five months before the murders happened. They're watching it. So
OJ goes, I pick of the Bills to win. Of course, a
pick of the Bills. Why would that pick the Bills? After the cameras
go off. They gotta remember his quote at the time, best friend Marcus
Allen, he's playing for the Chiefs, and he's like pulling for the Chiefs.
And they were shocked. They were like, Ohjay pulling from that boy
Mark and the Bills have had their chances. Like I was like, wow,
that doesn't sound like the OJA that I know, Yes, right right?
And this is like months before. Are the Bills now closer to the
Super Bowl? Now at the curse of the Jews? So that and I
saw Tom Brady on some social media asked who he thinks is the next quarterback
to win their first Super Bowl and he said Josh Allen. I really like
Josh Allen. I like the way he plays. I like the way he
leads. I think he's the guy goes got to get past Kansas City.
My homes is tough, but I think they could do it. That's what
he said. So maybe maybe you're right. Maybe this is maybe this is
the thing I did see somebody say they actually got to meet OJ the friday
before Nicole was killed. I worked three days before. Yeah, the week
was. She died on a Sunday night. Okay, so this is like
two, it's like four. I worked at a company. He was on
the board of directors of Swiss Army Knives, watches, cutlery, et cetera.
I actually had to make him a one of a kind Swiss Army knives,
specifically for his role in the Third Naked Gun movie. A week or
so after that, the FBI was all over the building. That's what I'll
remember about OJ. That's their up. That's what I'll remember. I just
got the update that Cancer has been acquitted in the murder of O. J.
Simpson's He got off, Cancer got Off. Here is the final OJ.
This is the final OJ. On X February eleventh, Hey, X,
world is me? You's truly boy? What a beautiful day it is?
Here in Las Vegas. Even though the game is indoors, it wouldn't
matter, but still it's nice to have a beautiful day like this. Hey,
let me take a moment say thank you to all the people who've reached
out to me. My health is good. I mean, obviously I'm dealing
with some issues, but hey, I think I'm us about overritten. I'll
be back on that golf course hopefully in a couple of weeks. But it
was very nice hearing from you and here and those good positive words. Thank
you. Now, as far as the game goes, obviously, my prediction
and it's not hope. I'm basing it on who's on the field. I
see a twenty four to twenty win by the forty nine ers. That's not
hope. I'm basing that on the quality of the players that are on the
football field. So who's going to be m VP? Prody? I mean
Prody? Does somebody scream in the background like they're playing golf? Did you
hear it this sounding you got a bad shot for? They screamed, fuck,
I swear it's hurt. And then does it just just about over it?
Two months? Yeah? Yeah, and here here he is two days
prior to that. Hey, ex world hospice, hospice talk about hot No
I'm not in hospital. No you're not. No, no, you were
not. So it's funny. The forty nine ers last Super Bowl championship was
when he was in jail awaiting or he was on trial. He was on
trial, yeah for the murder. Oh really yeah. Their last super Bowl
championship was in the ninety four season Super Bowl twenty nine. That was the
first time the Bills didn't go in those four years. All right, that's
you know, that's when the snee streak was snapped. Since then, they've
been to three Super Bowls and they've lost them all. Ah, that's right,
Yeah, they did lose them all. That was the one they beat
up on San Diego. Just beat the crap out of them here is so.
Of course, one of the famous things that came out of the oj
trial, at least in my mind, was the constant barrage of jokes on
Saturday Night Live from one Norm MacDonald The Weekend Update. According to retailers,
the most popular Halloween mass this year is O. J. Simpson and the
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which contains a series of essays examining faith and morality in today's secular world and
the changing role of the Catholic Church as it approaches the twenty first century.
The book is entitled God Himself told me that OJ is Guilty. It's a
series. You can go on X and find a ten minute reel of Norm
McDonald's just doing every joke. I think the title with Meadows. He's doing
the telestrator. Yeah, yeah, drawn off the plane. It smells.
I did it. I stumbled across that one. Remember when Steve Tasker was
parodied on on Saturday Night Live That staffood in the Super Bowl and the power
went out and they and he was a sideline reporter for CBS. So I
asked him we had him on the show. When I was working with Scott
Potniak, I said, Hey, what's it like to be parodied on SNL?
And we started talking about that, and then, of course, you
know, you come across the other bill's references at Saturday Night Live because there
aren't a lot, and even that one, they had a guy playing Norma
or Will Ferrell's playing Marv Levy, somebody else is playing, like Tim Meadows
is playing OJ describing how he did it. But like Tim Cram, you
mentioned the whole thing with Norm McDonald, and people believe that's why he got
fired from SNL was because yeah, well he goes was sworn to secrecy on
this bit of info. But now that they're both dead. This is Tim
Graham from the Athletic Tweeting. In my reporting on OJ, I was shown
direct messages from Norm McDonald twitter account asking OJ to play golf with him at
Kenya Gate while in town for the twenty nineteen World Series of Poker by be
Bygones. Norms said Norm's first offer was to do a scripted bit and then
just to play for laughs. But they never did get together. I'm told
although OJ was going to do Norm's podcast. Yeah, I mean that would
have been really interesting and really interesting to know. And I don't doubt that
we had Tim Graham on. I've been reaching out and bugging them all day,
and I know he's got a lot of deadline it's and a lot of
things to write, and I would think he maybe the guy OJ talked to
the most in one on one interview. Yes, is that possible? Yeah?
Or I have no idea. Again, who can really say? But
Tim Graham has interviewed him at least three or four times and told us on
this podcast, and he had never said it before, was that OJ wanted
to do his own podcast with Tim Graham interviewing him more or less because he
felt he could trust him. And Tim wrote, and some people will tell
you Tim is a sensational writer. I thought he wrote very colorful. I
wouldn't call it sensational. I would say he adds a lot of color,
so it almost feels like you are in the room with the person. But
factual, yes, factual unfair, Yeah, you can't. You can't find
I think, but you can't find anything that's inaccurate with Tim Graham ever.
Uh, we'll we'll take a moment that today I here. We do a
lot of different projects here and one of them is the cop cast for the
Fairport Police. They came over and asked if I would do, and so
we do today. They had a ninety eight year old man and his name
is Jack Foy. Jack was in the Battle of the Bulge and he served
in World War two and it was just an interesting conversation to hear. I
pulled a clip because it all I could think about. Because while the podcast
is being taped this morning, Dan sends me the thing. And then probably
two to three minutes after, I get the text from Dan that Ojay's dead.
Now I'm getting you know, it's ABC, it's Fox, it's this.
So everybody's now either confirming or finding out that og Simpson had died.
And it's just something that I have always wondered about oj and this guy sort
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a few more things on the uh the O J. Simpson stuff that's been
everywhere and all over the place. O J. Simpson according to the New
York Post, well not them, but they have a story that says he
once bragged about a sexual encounter with Chris Jenner. I remember this, OJ
said, He's so. According to this story, and it went to page
six, I guess Robert Kardashian had gone to bed, and Nicole S.
Brown Simpson had gone to bed as well, and so OJ and Chris Jenner
are in a hot tub, and OJ bragged that he stood up, pulled
his shorts down, and he said, I'll give you exactly what he said.
Quote. Her eyes bugged out of her head, and then I fucked
that bitch until I broke her back. Wow. Nine months later Kim was
born. Well that was with Chloe. Chloe, So Chloe's uh, all
our social media have been flooded with condolences and the loss of your fun.
She's so terrible. It's terrible, Like you go, how how are his
kids? Like, how did his kids have the kids that he had with
Nicole Brown Simpson? Did they ever have any who knows? Yeah, I
don't know what kind of relationship they had with him. I mean, because
you got to remember he did go to jail for the for the kidnapping for
what nine years? Nine years, which is absolutely would never happen to anybody,
but it was one way. So but I just I know that I've
looked up because you're curious, like how did the kids turn out? And
like the one daughter doesn't look she doesn't look good. She just just doesn't
look like she took care. She's kind of like let her set of go
in some ways. The youngest girl, Sidney, Yeah, Sydney. I
mean it's it's awful. But I mean, like, you've had such a
chaotic childhood that wasn't your fault, and yet everywhere you go you got to
carry your father's legacy with you, regardless of whether you had anything to do
with it. It's just, it's just it's just so tragic. It's too
bad that you become hardened me because of it. Sure you do well,
everywhere you go, you're gonna get a question about it. I think,
like the you wish that you could say to somebody that is not representative of
you, like this doesn't mean anything to you, but your mom's gone,
and that's the biggest thing. I mean. I saw something today where the
difference between questions sons ask moms versus they asked what they asked dads. Mom's
mom? Do you know where my homework is? Mom? Where my pants?
Mom? Is there any snacks? Mom? What times dinner? Mom?
What's for dinner? And then all of a sudden, Dad, where's
Mom? I mean, I mean that it kind of just shows you.
I don't think that that's exactly true, however, I would think bombs are
the most the most important, and the sad part was that they were in
the house when it happened. Yes, they were in the house when I
forgot that. Do you think with him passing now anything new will come out?
Like? Is there like that heralo somewhere? I have always wondered,
I've always always wondered, and that and that'll lead us to this interview with
Jack Foy. I have always wondered, are human beings really capable of keeping
a secret? Does everybody have something that gnaws at them so much that they
just tell like one or one person or somebody? And was that Al Collings?
Al Calling's dead, he's still so well, But would you believe Al
Collings if he came out and said I don't think he'd ever would because I
think they're I think we would kill him, but I don't know. I
look, I told you earlier that there was a jur and I think this
might be the juror here you see those reactions Trump motion, and you got
people screaming and cheering, people shaking their heads, some people were in tears
over it. Now, all of these years later, what do you think
about the decision? And now Oj Simpson we've been talking about parole and sort
of his future. We've seen how things kind of played out after the trial.
What do you think about your decision now and the way that the country
reacted to it? Well? Again, and I will always defend the decision
itself that it was always based on evidences presented at the trial, and so
based on that. I never had any qualms or any misgivings about the decision
we made at that time. As far as for the reaction is concerned,
I do believe that a lot of the reaction was was media driven. As
far as for all the interest that was going on in the trial at the
time and and the concentration of of of I think the coverage was probably more
geared towards UH, indicating that he was probably a guilty person HM. And
I I know that the two different communities responded differently about that, of course,
and I'm referring to the white as opposed to the African American communities.
But I think it was just that people didn't understand exactly UH all of the
things that were presented at trial UH. And I'm pretty sure the average person
may have seen a bit or a piece there about the trial. Maybe those
bits and pieces were what they used to to make their UH decisions themselves.
Within themselves about it. But the but the thing about it is, when
you go back to the complete picture of the wholeness of the trial. From
my perspective, there was only the one decision I that I could rent it
render at that point. Isn't that interesting because I'll tell you, we watched
those documentary pieces and the lady goes, yeah, I think he was guilty,
but I found them. Yeah, it's funny because the information that was
there presented to them was not the same information that we got. You know,
like, there's a lot. Didn't they have live coverage gavel to gavel
basically, yeah, like the whole like the whole thing with Mark Furman using
the N word, that whole thing being played out that the jury never saw
that. All they got was Furman going or pleating the Fifth Amendment. That's
all they got. They didn't get the whole Did you plan any evidence?
I wish to assert my Fifth Amendment privilege? So where did all that N
word stuff come from? I thought that trial Judge edo It came out in
the preliminary hearings, right, and so, which eventually led to a trial.
They didn't have a grand jury, They had preliminary hearings, and a
judge at the time, which was not Itto was a different judge, ruled
that this case needs to go to court. She cited another case about it.
So when it goes to court, you got all this stuff about Furman
that's coming out that came out in the preliminary hearings, and eat judge you
know who, by the way, we have not heard from since this trial
ended. He came out and said, I think it's in the public's best
interest to hear these tapes or or on the tapes, and I will decide
whether or not they could be admitted to evidence. And he didn't. He
did not admit them into evidence, but he heard them with like I remember
CNN, like the F word and the N word. I'm like, holy
cow, I can't believe they're actually so they put out they put it out.
The court like you know, allowed the defense to put these tapes out,
and then they would argue the prosecutions the defense whether it's relevant to the
case. The jury never heard it. What they did see though, was
Furman that he was because he was they could put him on the stand because
he was investigating it, and they asked him all these questions and if you
played the fifth to one question, you got to plead the fifth to all
of them. And so and finally f f Lee Bailey, who was working
pro bono actually on this case, goes and did you in fact manufacture or
plant that evidence? In this case, I wish to assert my Fifth Amendment
privilege right and the Jersey going back to everything plus the glove that they made
him try, which was ridiculous. The jury had enough reasonable doubt. I'm
not saying, oh, they didn't do it. He's guilty as sin,
but as far as the American justice system is concerned, I understand why they
found him not guilty. Well, the American justice system is something that you
know, no matter where do you land in the world of politics, you
want that the way it is, God forbid you ever end up on.
You want a fair trial or as fair trial as you can possibly get.
And I think this is one of the countries in the world where that can
happen. Yes, and there are many people who fought to keep that that
way. I just I don't you know, it's interesting that you say that,
because I think that at least in the public persona where all that evidence
was available and heard and not from a sequestered jury. I think there was
a real racial divide on the you know, if you were white, you
thought he did it. If you were black, maybe you didn't. I
don't know, and I'm not saying that's the case for every white person every
black person, but it sure seemed like the majority of either race certainly went
that way. And I guess it showed the racial divide. But I thought
there was also and maybe it was done for sensationalism a little bit, I
thought in one of the pieces, and it might have been the piece that
ran on ESPN, the documentary where they interviewed a woman she was a black
woman on the trial or Jerry, excuse me, and she said she I
think She said, yeah, I think he did it, but I found
him innocent, and that Ezra Edelman kept asking her questions. He was the
director. He kept asking her, wait a minute, so you believe he
did it, but why did you find him not guilty? And then she
went through it. If you listen to her talk about it, it was
like all the ship we've ever put up with, this is our chance to
go. We're not letting this one go to jail. This this this one
this one. Well, we're talking about the same person. We've been talking.
We were talking about to differ people. Because the woman I saw said,
she goes, look, we'd been there for how many weeks? How
many days? It come it came down to the fact that there just wasn't
enough evidence to suggest that he was without a shadow of a doubt that he
did it. This is another one. She goes, she went through all
the scenarios. Okay, I'm with all these people, right. We're losing
jurors at least one a week. We were sequestered, we're away from our
families, we can't see these people. And when they put that, when
they gave us the case, we just wanted to get the f out and
they did. I mean they had a decision in three hours, which is
ridiculous. In fact, like in the OJ not the documentary but the FX
series the People versus O. J. Simpson, they even they did.
None of the lawyers expected to be back the following Tuesday. They were thinking
everything would take on a vacation for a week or a month. There's one
line where Marsha Clark, was the lead prosecutor, tells Christopher Darden, what
if I don't hear from you call me anyway, Like they weren't planning out
seeing each other. Then they bring everybody into like Johnny Cochran's office, and
Shapiro's losing his mind. He just takes an hour just to fill out the
forbes. I mean, they're like, they're like, I can't believe this.
They actually were gona announce the verdict that day, but the only attorney
there for OJ was was Carl Douglas, which, by the way, is
a riot. He is a star in that documentary. And they're like,
well, maybe we should have mister Cochran and miss Clark, you know,
because all these people went away, they had to rattle all the people up
and bring them in and say we're gonna do this on a Tuesday. So
what Look, whether or not OJ did it. I think that this many
years after, you're just thirty years exactly thirty years after, you almost start
to think that, yes, this is he did it. But you always
wonder when you do something like that, do you think about it? Does
it come back to haunt you in some way? So earlier today, there
was a ninety eight year old guy, as I said, who came in
for the cop cast, and this is just a clip. It'll drop next
week. A cop cast with Jack Foy and Matt Barnes was in here kind
of doing the interview. And I found this to be just very interesting.
And it made me think immediately of OJ, because the news was just coming
out that he had passed. And to hear what this guy says and then
just think of OJ's happened about this second or third days in combat in the
Tire Valley and we were just going through the woods and all of a sudden,
this German soldier popped out from behind a shed, the first German soldier
I saw I ever saw, and he saw me at the same time I
saw him, I guess, and he started to bring his rifle up.
I brought my rifle up a little bit faster, I guess. I put
two rounds right into him, and he went down and we kept going and
I walked by him. He's laying. So he was a young kid,
probably twenty years old or so. And that's something I never forgot. They
always felt bad about it. I shot a guy, I killed a man.
There was something we had to do. And the heck of it is
they did it many times after that. I was a machine gunner most of
the time and the rifle company, and that was our job. That's what
we did. Not on me to touch on you know that I guess the
dark areas, but that that is war, you know, And I can't
even imagine what you felt at that particular point. And you know, we
call you guys the Greatest generation for a reason. I mean, I'll say
thank you to you when you're wearing your hat or we know you're your serving
something like that. But that's the reason people say thank you is because we
know you've never forgotten that that particular moment in time. It's hard sometimes,
you know, you're just sitting in your easy chair at home and memories come
flooding back. I'm sure they do. And how the hell could I have
done such a thing? How the hell could I have done such a thing.
Now, that's a man who is ninety eight years old and was probably
the same age as that soldier, early twenties, late teens. I don't
know. I just wondered if OJ ever thought at some point, how the
hell could I do such a thing? Or clearly war is is different right
there, you can. I mean, it was either a shot or be
killed, you know, or in that situation, and he had many other
things that he said along those lines that were but you know, combat,
So it's not the same as I would it's not the same as OJ.
So you just wonder. But I just in some capacity, did he ever
think in his own mind how could I have done that? Or did he
completely block it, you know, blackout? There are those moments where psychologically
you just black out, you don't remember or whatever it is, or you
compartimentalize or I have no idea. But I was thinking of that because you
hear that, and I think that's something with war that we I've never ever
I mean, I know Barnes is saying, and that's why, you know,
that's why we all thank you and all that. I don't think I
ever thought of what they actually did. I don't think that. I mean,
I know I was aware. I just never I've never sat in a
room with somebody and heard that. Yeah, I have thought I felt so
bad, and then they come flooding back and I think, how could I
have done that. I've never heard a person say that about war. I've
never, I guess, had a real discussion with somebody about the actual atrocities
of war when you fight for something you believe in, and everybody would they
go to war, whether they were a Nazi or they were an American an
Allied soldier. You're believe you're usually if you're there, you chose to be
there, and you're believing in what you're doing well, and you believe that
you're fighting on the side of good. Even though you know he sounds like
he didn't want to have to do that, but he had to. And
we've all seen the results in Perceiving Private Ryan, where they have that one
Nazi dig in his grave and Tom Hanks's character lets him go and says,
turn yourself into the first American you see and he ends up coming back and
killing half the crew later on in the movie. You're like, so it's
either you kill them or they kill you, period. But that's there's an
understanding there. Murder, on the other hand, it is way different.
I think oj looked at it like, I'm sure he had his moments,
especially that week leading up to the fact, because you know, well,
maybe, but in the time between when he went to trial, through getting
off all the way to Las Vegas and then in the aftermath of what happened
nine years between. After those nine years, I felt that OJ Simpson gave
the impression he was a sociopath. Oh definitely. So I don't know that
he would think of it the way this gentleman would look at once murdered,
the other one is kill or be killed. Yeah okay, But but like
it sounds like this gentleman really has flashbacks to having to do those things.
Whereas OJ, dude, he told the story and all the comcast will drop
next week, but he told a story about going into a German town and
the men who fought in World War One from there basically when you know,
comrades comrades and surrendered immediately. He said it was the young kids who were
And again I'm going to say that war is an old man's idea executed by
young men. You need the young men because they're feel invincible. And as
he said, we were all like, let's go right, they're all young
over here. The old men are surrendering the young men. And he said,
you know, really buying into what Hitler had going on, which was
part of the dogma. But again, a belief in what they're doing as
much as we believe in what we're doing. These young kids would dig trenches
on the side of the road and then pop up and he goes, and
they were pretty good shots, he said. But we would look at them
and they were fourteen, fifteen, sixteen years old. He goes, they're
like our younger brother. I have a younger brother. He goes, I
got young. And he said, but you had no choice. And it's
amazing. And I don't think I've ever had that kind of conversation. But
imagine you're ninety eight. This war happened what sixty years ago? Yeah,
and edited in forty seventy years ago. I mean, do you see it
like there is no time. The memory transcends time. That guy was right
back on those in that experience today, it does. I mean, he
was right back there, and it just was amazing. And then he told
something that I have never heard ever in any history book or anything. He
talked about they're walking into a German town and this stench, he goes,
it just was overwhelming. And as they came down into the town, that's
where a concentration camp was, and they get there and there are bodies everywhere
and all this well, the short of it is they took the concentration camp.
He didn't talk about this on the podcast. I hope I'm not speaking
on the school, but I just I think it. I think it just
speaks, just speaks volumes what what he said happened. They go in,
they they disarm every German soldier. They're surrendering. There's right, the Americans
have taken over. They take all the Germans guns, they give them to
the Jews and they leave. And the German and these the people in the
concentration camp, and I don't know as to what state of physical ability.
Don't forget many were starved, because he said they were so emaciated, some
of them, but that they killed all the Germans except for one who had
been nice to them. Okay, so he said, so I had never
heard. But did you ever hear like they gave they free like, hey,
hey, you handle it. You you have the right to do this,
and they walked away. I'm sure they didn't walk away. I'm sure
they stepped out and said it's yeah or whatever, well, we'll be right
here in case it's you know something, I gonna take a break. But
but I just I was like, you know, you didn't question anything.
I just I'm saying, but these memories were just so vivid in his mind,
and I do I just was wondering at the same time. Again,
we're talking about completely different psychological landscape. I'm sure mindscape. I guess you
would call it with OJ. But at some point, at any point,
if he really did, did he ever stop? And I mean to even
be able to joke about it to me is almost a sign that you did
it. In a way, kidder's never really kid. You're gonna kid about
something. You're gonna kid about the the mother of your children is dead and
they're saying it's your hand, and many many people still believe it's your hands.
And then you walked around and young women and this is a part of
that just blew my mind. Young women he's doing blow off their assess and
down in Florida and he's banging around and oh, they called him the godfather.
But everybody said he was so nice. I know people who said they
were at restaurants and things. Somebody said he was doing an autograph signing.
OJ still owes me money. I lost a million tips because he was at
a bar up the street in Florida when he moved down there, there's just
but always polite and nice and look his presentation onto X nice and knowledgeable about
the modern day game of football, like he had a likability about him that
it just shows a real psychotic yeah something. There's a reason why to this
day, people who you know, people believe he didn't do it. And
it goes back to the fact that they thought they knew OJ before that day.
But because he always presented himself as the guy you talk. Yes,
Scotpotoniac told me a great story once he's writing a story about OJ when he's
doing the Naked Gun, the second Naked Gun movie, and he's talking.
They're talking about I don't know new sab It or somebody like that, and
he goes, Scott, hold on one second, what we got to redo
a scene? He goes, I'll call you back, Scott, let me
call you back. What's your number? Writes it down, So Scott's thinking,
Okay, I just lost OJ. Twenty minutes later, phone rings,
he picks it up. It's Ojay. He calls him back. He goes
to where were we? Like he was that kind of guy. He was
personable and he was friendless. He just was he But he had an obsession,
and it was his wife and it became what it became evil whatever.
Look, if you're having sex with Jenner and all these other people, how
obsessed are you with your wife? Or was it just it's a possessive thing.
It's some kind of he got her when she was eighteen, billy young.
There's something that's just very uh disturbing about the whole thing. And yet
I found the guy fascinating, the way people reacted to him fascinating over the
years, seeing him in recent years right up in Buffalo, and I'm with
Tim Graham, I would have done those interviews just strict to almost just go
what is it like to have knowing that anybody you interact with has an opinion
about you, And most of them it's a negative one. Yeah, most
like a pretty serious negative one, Like you're the guy they never want to
hang, You're the stigma, they're afraid to come the stigma. Yeah,
you're the punchline, You're the you're the meme, you're the Halloween mask,
You're everything. And I I just would what would that be like? And
I guess maybe you gotta be psychotic to be able to handle it. I
don't know. I don't know, because he certainly seemed who he went out,
he golfed, did everything. He can compartmentalize that sociopathic, sociopathic.
But oh man, just, I mean, just he was such an enigma.
There's just so much surrounding just the idea of OJ Sibson and the concept
of OJ Sibpson and everything. And if he just if he just stayed home
that night, if he had just stayed home that night, think about this
when it comes to OJ Sipson. Elvis Presley, Right, he marries Priscilla.
She was hand picked at fourteen, fourteen years old. Okay, I
always go why why are we not ever ranting and raving and jumping up and
down and screaming about that he does. Let's think about this. He picks
her out of the while he's got all these other women. Yes, he
picks her up. Why because he needed to have somebody that he could rely
on, depend on in groom to play the part of missus. Elvis Presley
one day and he's grooming her and one day even she said yeah enough,
I'm done and walks out out. I mean a lot of people believe that
that was the beginning of the end for Elvis Presley. Now here's Nicole Brown
who's had enough of OJ Sipson and tells you, like everybody in the world
wants every woman in the world wanted OJ Sipson. Everyone in the world wanted
Elvis Presley, except the one woman that you picked to be yours says,
you know what, I don't want this anymore. That's a huge My father
told me that when OJ, because he knew you had it figured out from
day one, figured out from day one, my father, and he was
an OJ fan, he did, Oh yeah, he had it. Well,
why did they prosecution again? Listen, we got a detective from Silverburry
gotta fucking blow you la PD guys away. Can I tell you something The
best O J joke ever? Just this is just my opinion. Bill Bellaby
was doing a set around Thanksgiving of that year called Bill Bellaby's Booty Call at
MTV and he opens up with an OJ joke. He goes, you know
who saw the whole thing? The dog? Why don't they interview the dog?
You? Well, uh, We'll take a moment. I have a
few questions that I asked along the lines of the uh stuff you had sent
from Twitter earlier. This week to our ninety eight year old friend Jack foy
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something that he says that you Dan will agree with in principle. In principle,
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about a little bit. Why don't people wonder about my ginger? Why do
people ask you so many about how I made it to the top, about
all the times I make those the defensive stop and they say, show coach,
that's no stopping the juice. And when I'm on the field, I'm
like a lion going leaves. You better shoot me. What a franquilizer do?
I don't be fool stupid. I'm not a simpt a name bar.
I'm not a part too sunny bad like the type of state of mock tunes.
Can't you see? The only way I lived my life is life.
Man. I got the most games with two hundred plus, y'all god like
team just come out in two thousand and six. But it sounds like him,
and it sounds like Dionne Sanders talking to you. Really listen, got
that d Twins talking about the lowers like one, two three? Where because
the ball came to me? So all you play are hitters in your sucking
sea. You better get on your knees and get some of It's a transition
like a sixth cents or intuition from now he comes down to just one decision.
I'll be going up the middle. Then I get the SIDELO. Wow,
that's crazy, because Kevin said it reminded him of this song right here
we were and there is sound. But this is just two thousand and six.
I think the rap came out because remember o J. After the lawsuit
came out that he lost that thirty three million dollars, he had a come
up with that money. So he was like trying to start reality shows.
He was trying to do rap records. There's a lot of He's also starting
all these like shell companies, so he wouldn't have to pay it out right,
And by the way, even though he's dead now, I'm told that
the hundred million dollars I think is what he goes. Yeah, like,
yeah, he's they're not gonna the Goldmans aren't going to see a dime.
Did he ever pay him anything? Very little? The heisman they got that
he didn't get much though. All right, well, wow that's Ron Goldman.
I guess tweeted out or made a comment today about it. He says,
that's no big loss for the world, but just for another reminder that
I lost my son. Yeah terrible. Yeah, Yeah, there are probably
in a day that goes by that he doesn't think about that. Yeah,
I'll probably David. In fact, after this I had a boss who actually
flew out to Brentwood and sat down and convinced Fred Goldman to come to Rochester
and do a talk show in the mid days for w h a M.
And he actually did it for about a month, but it really didn't catch
on. But he wanted to convince him that, like, this is your
chance to become this big talk show host and star out of this tragedy.
And it never really came to fruition. Oh that makes my skin crawl.
I can tell you who the boss was too. No, I don't have
to do it now. No I don't. I don't need to know.
I'll tell you what there's It could have been cathartic. I went to school
with Jennifer Kon who was tragically murdered at Saint John Fisher. Her father got
into politics as a result of that. It probably was very cathartic to be
able to talk about your daughter, do something in her memory and try to
make people's lives better in some capacity. Maybe the same thing with Goldman.
The only thing that I don't like is the boss going to seek that guy
out and go, hey, let's make some money. You know what I
mean? Because the station will profit as well, and it's a business,
and there's nothing wrong with that. There is nothing wrong with that at all.
I worked in radio for a long time and I still respect radio to
this day. I do believe at some point, big corporate radio will go
away and you'll have small stations. Again. Small I don't mean small stations,
smaller groups, yes, but stations that better serve the communities they're in,
right, because they don't have to answer to a corporate certain thing.
But that aside, I just think that, my god, there's something about
profiting off a tragedy that just does not sit well with me. Like I,
if I were in that meeting, my eyes should be as big as
saucers going. I don't even know what to say to that, and I
don't think that anybody questioned it. No, maybe I'm wrong, I just
because I kind of gasp at it now. I don't, I don't,
I don't know. Maybe it was a great Cato Kalin got a fucking talk
show. He was on a radio station in La. He was terrible.
Well, he felt that this gentleman felt that he could bring Fred in.
Fred would have a platform to talk about No, no, no, I
get it. I get the theory of it. It's the same thing,
and that's why I drew the parallel to Combs. There may be a case
where it's cathartic for him and maybe you bring some good out and maybe we
start talking about changing laws. Or I don't know, I have no idea.
There's just something about I couldn't be the guy to approach the man who
had There are just people that don't have that common sense or they did just
shut it down and just see the dollars sign at the end of the wall.
Yeah, I mean, look, this could be somebody saying, hey,
you know, this would be a guy and he's well spoken, and
he's been out in front of cameras and it's a name and he looks good.
I just couldn't, Danny. I couldn't be the boss to go out
and make that call because I couldn't go up to somebody to go, listen,
we all know you because you had an unspeakable tragedy in your life at
the hands of someone in the world is loved, beloved. I just couldn't
do that. There was something like, I don't know, I call it
profiting off tragedy. Yeah, I guess everybody you could say that to certain
saying that I had. I always found Jerry Springer to be a very smart
guy. I just found the show repulsive because to me, it felt like
it was just profiting off of the tragedy of people. I sir, I
watched a few, but there were times where I would find it And I
know this sounds really weird, right, because maybe you think different than me.
I found it very upsetting when I found people like throwing chairs and going
at each other, and I'm like this, I don't think this is I
think it's trumped up a little bit for TV. But if that's how people
are behaving, why don't we Why aren't we trying to help them instead of
encourage them? Yeah, you do the three one five years of the week.
Well yeah, I mean you could call me a hypocrite. You could
call me a hypocrite. I'm sure, I guess, but I feel like
I never wanted to, like, I'll poke fun at it, but I
always say, as that lady said to you, Uh, from that lady,
let me explain the woman who was busted in Minnesota allegedly having sex with
underage kids, and we reached out to her, I said, there's always
another side to the story. I believe there's another side to the story.
I would love to talk. I love talking to people. I love I
think every human has a story. I think every human wants to be heard.
I believe that, and maybe that's not true. That's my opinion.
Well, CMF. We would always seek out the other side of the story.
That was what we were known for. I like to find the other
side of the story, and we find it actually pretty endearing most of the
time. Yes, so you know, the throwing the chairs and all this
stuff. I found that upset. I wasn't looking for that, but I'd
like to hear the other side of the story, you know, because some
people, and some of them were hysterically funny. And yes, we were
laughing at them. So maybe that's just as bad. I don't know,
but I guess in my mind, maybe I'm a psychopath. I was able
to kind yeah, you know, I mean there walked in determined. Oh
gosh, like we were. There was at one time where that guy got
busted for being married twice. Yeah, I didn't realize it. He came
out. She tell my story. Yeah, or and Bobb it showed up
one morning because he was working construction. It was right before Christmas. He
just came walking in. Hey, we know john Way, Bobby's working on
a job with us. You wanted to come in the studios sture, Okay,
oh yeah sure. First guy, the first guy he beat Tommy,
Yeah he did. He walks in. He's like a five forty five.
He walks in. You can't sit there. That's that's Tommy's chair. I
couldn't believe. Dude, dude, you can't sit there. But he's got
a sabers jury and he's trying to make jokes and none of us are laughing.
I mean, move. You wouldn't move yourself. I had my own
I had my old stuff to worry about. I don't Billy couldn't make bobbit
move. I don't remember. I'm might probably. There's another guy in the
student that didn't want to give up his chair either, and we had to
force him out too. How he got pissed off. He's like, wow,
I told you go over there and sit over there. Who was that?
It was Pat? Because Pat like just kept jumping in that one extra
chair and we're like, no, it's about the listeners. Every Christmas we'd
have a listeners show. Yes, well, we'd invite all like the people
who called the show all the time. Yeah, and like we'd have a
blast. We get I mean now we would. It would drive the other
four stations nuts. God, we were getting drunk, we were getting loud.
Tommy started losing his mind. Yeah. And then Chase Fry showed up
with like a crew. He like shot up with like fifteen people. They're
taking pictures. I gotta tell you, like I for whatever reason, and
this this is the tragedy I think of the human experience. I'll call it
that because I think everybody has that. You focus on something, and I
focused on all my push to basically be accepted. That's really what it was.
My push to be accepted by Entercom's management and prove that I could do
this. So everything in my mind, it was a struggle. It was
a fight. It was this when I sit with you and I remember,
I go, god, damn, that was some of the funniest, greatest
radio I ever did. Had you asked me. Shows after that that I
was part of were much easier because I didn't have to fight the battles with
management at that point. I just you know, and I had people that
were pretty amenable and easy to work with, and it was fine, not
that anybody wasn't, but Tommy could get prickly and things. It was actually
but it was fucking incredibly, incredibly great. That was a great show,
and their version of it now today that they do is fantastic. But I
just go, holy, We're the last show to actually do like a Man
on the Street bits live, like real authentic theater of the mind radio,
and that's gone now good morning radio. You know, like people said,
it turns out I have to be honest with you, and I know it
sounds maybe because I worked in the industry for so long, I certainly appreciate
talent and talk and all that stuff. I'm so focused on here and other
projects I'm trying to it doesn't matter. There's a lot of other things.
I'm spending a lot of money to buy things and get more stuff in here
and flights and trying to book something for the beginning of May, and I
just I don't even think of that world as much as I used to.
I don't think of that world, and I don't listen, and a lot
of times now it's just I enjoy the music, and I you know,
somebody said to me, I hear you talk about serious XM. Any music
platform, that's the one I have, and I have it on everything.
I have it on my TV at home, and I have it on my
iPad, my phone in my car. I like it. I like it.
I happen to like certain channels on there. And I don't listen to
a whole lot of talk outside of the talk. Can I do listen to
that? Anyway? Here's something since we're talking about life. So Danny had
sent me earlier this week a bunch of a young guy who goes around and
talks to people, and I'm going to say, between the ages of sixty
and one hundred kind of about their life, what would they say to their
younger selves and all that. So today with Jack Foy, after he was
done with Comcast, I had a few seconds and I asked him, Jack,
how old are you right now today? Ninety eight? So what is
your secret to being ninety eight? Everybody's looking for sort of that magic elixir
right to live a long life? Ninety eight years? Yeah, every boosh
and wild woman. If you could go back in time and have a converse
with your younger self, what would you tell him, oh gosh, Well,
I tried to be a rather devout Catholic, and I would advise him
to stick to the religion too much. Don't believe everything you're reading the newspaper
or on television. There's a good percentage of it. It's allowablogna. Depending
on what station you're listening to, the station will have the same story,
but everything is just the opposite. Yeah, this is a kind of almost
trust your God a little bit. Yeah, have you ever lost someone you
truly loved? Well, before we get to that, I just want to
comment on what he said about the religion and stuff. There's a couple of
things. I don't know if you always felt like don't trust everything you read.
It feels like a newer thing with us. We you know, you
had your Walter Cronkites of America, trusted Walker Kronkite, and he was just
giving you the facts. And I don't know that he's necessarily a supporter of
President Trump, but he certainly likes him. President Trump spoke about Jack in
particular for five or six minutes. Jack has done many tours back to France
for Norman D Day and things, and said, the only president who's ever
come down and shake and shook the hand of every veteran and looked them in
the eye and talked to him. The only president, he said, I
was there. They would many would be seeing it up on the dais or
something. They wouldn't gonet. The only one was Trump. Very patriotic,
and I think that guys like Jack certainly appreciated that. And I can understand
why, certainly, right. But I go back to his thing about religion,
and I think that some people aren't religious, but I think religion gives
you a discipline. Would that be fair? Yeah, tenant, the ten
Commandment, something to live by, a code guide. Religious people are pretty
good people, right, They just usually usually not always. So I'm sure
we could all come up with the example of the bad apples. But for
the most part, if you had a religious neighbor who's not waving in your
face necessarily, but it's always polite, kind, keeps the yard, comes
over to help you, does this sort of thing. I mean, this
is a guy who sat here and in the podcast said I was born in
nineteen twenty six or twenty seven, and he said that he so that the
depression, and at that time, he said there were families and there were
no social services, so my mother would have us gather up some extra food
to families that we knew, and he goes, you would go over and
you'd knock on the door and then you'd run like hell because you didn't want
to embarrass them. You didn't want them to know who was dropping off the
food. But it was food, and that was his mom did that.
And he came from a large family just so. But I think and he
said his faith is what got him through the war and that sort of thing,
and I thought of you, But I thought, boy, religion,
if there's a discipline, you know, not too much of anything, not
too much wine, women, cigarette, whatever it is, whatever your many
people's vices are you kind of keep that discipline. And I thought that was
just an interesting answer. That's cool. Yeah, just an interesting answer from
him. Let's see. Yes, very unfortunately. I asked him out,
has he ever lost anybody? You loved? His wife after for forty five
years or so, about about ninety five, I think, yeah, if
you could have it, well, if you could go back and tell her
one thing today, what would you say if you could have one conversation?
How much I appreciated her after seeing some of these other things going on around
our world. Yeah, your wonderful jab and bringing her kids up. I
had one son and three daughters. Yeah, she did a wonderful jab and
bringing them up. Is there anything thats you you look back on your life
that you regret at all? There may have been incidences that I turned right
when I should have turned last year or something, but nothing of any great
importance. Yeah. Do you believe that it kind of all works out in
life? Just a good way of putting an event. Eventually it will,
Yeah, straightened out to whatever you're doing. That's that's that's interesting than just
you know, here's an old guy. And I only say that because think
about anybody. It all works out, you know, And if you're clinging
onto something too hard and fighting against just just relax a little bit and everything
seems to work out. I don't know. I don't know why I don't
grow up the bat too tight? No, because we're kind of conditioned.
Yes, do that too bad? It's taken me a few, like several
years to figure that out. Well, usually how you used to always say,
let going like God, which is pretty much the same theory of you
used to say that to me, I believe it did. I probably did.
Just let go and like, god, if you're going to be mirrors
to figure it out, But no, you did. It was like early
on when we worked together. Yeah, I did. Because it was a
tough job man, because you're broke. We at least I was, and
you're getting up at three o'clock in the morning and you don't feel appreciated,
not by you or Tommy but by everybody else. Well, there were certain
times we yeah, I don't have to get we have to we don't have
to go back on memory trying to do things that would would try to build
the team a little bit, like if we hit a bonus, we knew
you guys didn't have it. I tried to talk Tommy into each given half
of a bonus to you guys. You did you tried? No, no,
no, he did he did? We did it? Did you did
it? We did it once or twice once I remember once. But didn't
you get bonuses in your contract after that? Yeah? But so here's what
happened. They actually switched to that rolling model. So you had to do
it like three books for an entire year. You had to average and of
course I always average to be number one in the summer. Oh damn,
we don't give those out in the summer. Oh dun't. Dun't. I
think I got that taken out because I had an agent at the time.
I only had only got a bonus twice. I didn't have that. We
finished number one several times, but I only Yeah, but you know what
the rolling average, doesn't you know? But you always got the cake.
Yeah, Well, gosh, I hate Yeah, it's a bit. It's
a business, yeah kind of thing. And I understand I have people to
answer to. I don't I will say, I don't understand it. I
just I was just trying to be nice. I don't understand it. I
don't understand because I think that I would love to go back up, backhand
every one of them. But that's not good. Well, it's not going.
God damn, you're right. Yes, you gotta you gotta really let
go. You do that. Betterness can poison the well on a lot of
times, I know. But it's more entertaining to talk about it this way.
It's more fun to talk about it this way, I would say,
because that's how I felt at the time. I always think for a boss,
you know, really see what motivates this team. And even if you
if you go, hang on a second, let's give him, like,
I don't know what was your wrong to say it was one thousand dollars,
right, give them five hundred. Let's show these guys that, hey man,
they're really in there cooking and doing a great job and just something that's
going to motivate, motivate, motivate, you know. I mean that there
are some really fantastic bosses, and then there are some really terrible bosses.
And a terrible boss doesn't mean that they perform bad. It just means that
they aren't in tune and they don't care, and everything's cold and all this,
and a great boss knows exactly what makes you work. And Kevin wants
to be at his kids hockey game, so if he wants to leave at
two o'clock, that's fine. He may only make seventy five thousand dollars a
year, and there may be somebody else who goes, man, I'll run
through walls and work saturdays and do all this stuff. And they may make
two hundred thousand dollars a year, But tell me who's happier. And maybe
they're both happy maybe a single young guy who's on the struggle and Kevin like
spending time with family and it's enough money, And I think that's a boss's
job. Yeah, to know what happy? What makes people think, all
right, well we uh will take a moment. I was gonna get into
this thing. Revenge dish could served cold. I'm not sure how I feel
about this has to do with the eclipse. Could it have been here,
I don't know, but it certainly was somewhere where. There was the totality
that this happened and someone decided they wanted revenge on this, and I'm not
sure. Think of a time. Have you ever got revenge on the clouds?
Billy Well quick revenge minutes worth? Who was it? Scott Hetskoe tweeted
out, this is Rochester for three hours today. It's that meme of the
of Abe Sipson, old man yells at cloud for three hours. I think,
uh, yes, but but this is a revenge thing and I'm not
sure what It just seems petty to me and I go away. Sometimes you
got to be better than that. Yes, sometimes it feels good. Yeah
about it podcast? I get that that happened fifteen years ago. Iron Smoke
is chill here man. Now, I'll tell you what what Tommy Burnett and
his crew over an Iron Smoke and his wife Jen have built is amazing.
They were the first establishment in the cannery and they proved it worked. And
you go there now, and there used to be plenty of parking. There
used to be plenty of parking. Now you've got two breweries. You've got
Faircraft Brewery, yes, and you've got I'm forgetting the name of the other
one. I was just in and over the weekend. It's on the preservation
Brewery, Thank you so much. And you got the pickleball courts, and
now you've got a country bar that's coming in there. Then you've got oh
really yeah, we're smoking hot chicks wood. So there's a country bared by
the guy that we were. Oh okay, you used to have a country
about before. This is all in somebody else's name. Oh okay, well,
let's hope so yeah, uh huh, that might be. I'm trying
to do an ad for Iron Smoke. Guess my point. They have shown
that that place works, and they are an award winning distillery, and I
can't think of anywhere I know that Forbes magazine has written about one of the
ten best Bourbons outside of Kentucky, and not only that, it's a great
spot to go and take in some live music and stuff. I love going
in there. I love getting something like the Peacemaker and then settling back and
taking in some live music. Friday, April eleventh, your buddy and mine
m hm, Tyler Norton is going to be doing the Acoustic Sunset sessions.
And he's the guy from m eighties. Yes, and I think he also
does live man karaoke. Is it his band? Yes? Part of that,
yeah, because that's a lot of work. Oh yeah, yeah,
so Tyler great. So he's going to be playing the Acoustics sun secessions and
then if you're a dead fan, starting at eight thirty, mud Creek playing
all your dead favorites. Oh yeah, an if our our buddy Cano will
be I was thinking of taking it in the mud Creek show. I was
thinking of going on three hours, four song, Yes, have four drinks
in three hours. Uh. And then on Saturday, the thirteenth, come
back. It's Meyer and Maguire doing the Acoutic sun Secessions. They begin a
little earlier on Saturday at three thirty and then Branded is going to be rocking
up country monk. Yeah, giddy up band. Yeah. Are you familiar
with Branded? Yes? Okay, yes, In fact, I think I
played a fundraiser. I opened up for them at one point, back at
twenty eighteen for junile diabetes. They were the second band and they're very talented.
Yeah, very good. You never asked, No, we weren't.
Oh yeah there's another band up here. Yeah, back to it. Okay,
that'll take our revenge things off from the level I forgot all about it.
I was so obsessed with the OJ and the ninety eight year old Jack
Foyd, I could do like a week's worth of podcast dot OJ. Yes,
well, maybe we need to start the OJ podcast. Will timing's perfect
on that one. Get to this for event way the Door Guy and Iron
Smoke. Do you want to talk about OJ? Sean, he'll talk OJ.
He needs to think OJ did it, And every time I see him,
he's got a different theory as to why, and they're convincing. I'll
buy it. Well, maybe we need to get him on the podcast next
week. Okay, maybe we should have our OJ theoristes I'd like it.
Get Peter doesn't buy conspiracy theories that what is going on? I feel like
we're what is? Who are you? Who are you? Any more?
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soul got a new album coming out. Playing around there just like this guy
sounded pretty good. He came to town definitely before crumbled from your Digular Bridge
days. But for the pandemic, I hear there's some sad news going on.
Yeah, so it looks like mark March fourth, mark your calendars May
fourth. Excuse me, yes, at Star Wars Day, Yeah, the
fourth be with you. Yeah, it won't be with the Vanity Project because
that'll be our last show. I was told tonight. Really, I found
this out by asking, hey, so when are we going to talk to
about a new bassist? Like I get the text message, Hey listen,
Uh, I think that's gonna be our last show. I don't think the
guys want to do it anymore. One guy who said that our drummer,
And I said, who's a great guy, Phil And he's in Seventh Heaven
too, and he's a couple other bands and he like Karma And he said,
uh no, the guys just there. There's three retirees in the band
and they could only practice like a mid afternoon. And Steve and I the
guitar player. He and I were in Diglar's Bridge together. Can only practice
at night. We can't. I can't. We got to work during the
day, and so it's just it's just a it's a timing thing, that's
all. So it's I got a text from Phil as well. He said
that the band actually has a gig after the fourth on May thirteenth with Sammy
Hagar. So I saw something today and I'm not just not Carrie Sharone.
I was just trying to find it on my phone and I got rid of
him. Mike Sterto, right, yes, Michael Stato. He was Lou
Graham's band. Mike used to come on different iterations of my radio show over
the years. Oh okay, a lot of times when I did afternoons a
long time ago. Uh, he would come on, and I always liked
Sterto, greatuitarists. He wound up being a guitarist with the guests who so
he puts something down. He goes, I don't know if this is real
or not, and that this could prevent cover bands and live music happening in
venues, which would really suck because right now in the town we live in,
this summer is going to be insane. There are three new restaurants coming
to Fairport. Three new restaurants't be able to play in right. One is
the Cover Room, and I don't know. I don't know if the Cover
Room will have live music or not, but they're coming here. There's a
place that's going at the front of the building that the pickleball courts and preservation
Brewery at the Cannery is in. There's going to be another restaurant bar there.
There's the country bar that's going in the Cannery. And I think that
I know the guy who owns a building that's under construction. That'll be something
else. I mean, so that's three, possibly four, and I'm sure
I'm missing something else. So that's a lot and a lot of those places
have live music. And we just told you about Iron Smoke. So Sterto
played this piece of a guy and I wish I could find it because I'm
gonna I'm not gonna do it justice. But he's saying that, So this
is I'm trying to make you feel better. Oh okay, because live music
is going away according to this guy. Guys like Burton Cummings who are no
longer with the guests who and we could take Louke Graham who's no longer with
Foreigner Now, Burton Cummings wrote a lot of those songs. Lou Graham did,
but so did Mick Jones. Yes, right, Mick Jones who was
in the class and then started Farner. So you've got uh So, I
guess Cummings is going to like as Cap and BM. I what I thought
it was a different mic Jones in the class. That might be a bit
different Mic Jones. Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe that was my head's all over
the place, That's right. He was he was with Spooky Tooth, Spooky
Tooth. Yeah. Yeah, So as we're so, he's going through and
trying to say, I don't want these guys playing my music without me.
I don't want the guess who to go on basically without me. I was
the guy. I was the guess who. It's like what Dennis de Young
went on with all without sticks, but would play sticks as songs. Yeah,
David Lee Roth would play the entire van Halen step would do without van
haal It right exactly. So what he's saying is he wants to pull his
music from the ascat BMI people, right, yes, so, because what
they do is you just pay a licensing fee back ASCAT BMI and then if
then you're covered, you just play that fee and anybody can come into your
establishment and play any song and it's fine. If it's an original of theirs,
well that's different. But if it's something else, there you go.
And he's saying he wants to try to pull that, and he's I guess
he's been successful because the guests who had a show canceled like the night before,
and the guy's going, this is terrible because so many jobs are affected.
Parking attendance, right, people who are security, concessions, all that
stuff where people will make money didn't happen. And he thinks it's because Burton
Cummings has been successful in pulling his music from ASCAT b M I or whatever
the po VS or POV's point of view. And that's usually important. But
what's so funny? You know that? Well, what I'm trying to say
is I don't know what he was using a different term for p r O
S or whatever. I think it was p r oh. He's saying he's
pulling from the p r os. So that way, if you want to
use that music, he can charge an astronomical licensing fee to you, and
nobody's gonna want to pay it, and if they pay it, then he
can put a cease and desist. It would really be hard for him to
know that. Let's say at Iron Smoke Distillery, someone got up and did
a guest whose song and somebody calls them, Yes, but what if you
got what they did? Tyler Norton did the other night? We played no
Sugar tonight in my coffee that's right, Yeah, it hit my tea.
Yeah, so you could charge him ten grand? Could that hit the jukebox
too, because it's in the juke box under that sure. Yeah. So
what you're saying is like they may just take away the live music. I
don't know about that stuff because there's usually but he's so you could take Burton
Cummings music out of there. What you can't do is probably know if Diggler's
Bridge or whatever iteration of band Danny's in, it's gonna jump up and play
a guess who song. You may have to preview the playlist. It probably
won't happen, but it's an interesting it's not gonna happen because he's doing it
to screw the best who. Yeah, that's what this is about. There's
not people clamoring to hear the guess who. There aren't enough people on the
planet who want to hear the guess who would I mean, they play county
fairs and it's I mean, that's great, good for them, congratulations,
that's awesome. But you know what, these guys are gonna pull their rights
because they just don't want the band to go on without him. That's what
this is gonna pack live music. No, because you're not gonna because it's
not gonna happen. They're still gonna eventually the band are gonna screw with the
band and say, Okay, I want my money from ASKAP because we need
it. We need the royalty money. Well, you know who's got a
ben who doesn't the guess who? You know who doesn't Dan Brilla. That's
fair, that's fair, you're right, So don't shot on the guess who.
Okay, I want Canadians. I must have done something. I really
missed the Tragically him. I'm looking at something in the recording that didn't go
right. There's some tragically Hip cover band coming here around strictly hip probably No,
I don't think it was not different one all right, Well soon I
don't know if this is his way of getting a revenge for them going on
or not. What are the point? What are you gonna do? You're
gonna find another band? Or is this it? You gotta retire? I'm
done, You're done. I'm done. No acoustic, no nothing. I've
had enough unless some band wance comes to. Hey, Dan, you want
to sing first? I'm not Dan and Beth No. I love my wife
dearly. Do you tell us why I did can't work with you? Well,
I just know I just don't think we have she has the time to
do it. Okay, I'd have to learn about First of all, I'm
not the greatest guitar player, so I have to bring somebody else in.
I just I could play rhythm, but I'm not a lead guitarist. Okay,
so you have to bring in somebody else to play lead. And I
have a guy who would do that. And then we have to learn all
these songs that Beth would know. But you're talking about playing acoustically, and
to be honest with you, acoustics acoustic shows are like background noise. Nobody's
watching here. They're just kind of eating and drinking and just having a good
They're not. They don't care that they band. It's up there, but
you got a drummer back there. All of a sudden people pay attention.
And it's a lot of work. And I don't know if I have the
strength to just go and do that again and start from scratch. He doesn't
want to have fun. I could play. My wife's more talented than I
am, and she's a powerhouse. She could play seven instruments. She could
sing amazingly. But I just it's it's just hard. It's a lot of
work. Now, if a band came to me with nineties type of music
it said, hey, could you sing for us? I would I would
look at it and say, yeah, if this looks like a great opportunity,
sure I'll do that. But as far as starting a band from scratch
goes no. I might have a band that needs a singer. Okay,
who's a Stephanie. I've been I need a singer with Stephanie. I it's
band Halloween. Yeah yeah, well they they maybe your next gig. Maybe
it would be great, but would be like a billified band. I'll tell
you what. I'll tell you what. If you can find a place to
practice and a bunch of people who actually are talented and want to actually start
a nineties coachers talked about this. Right now, we just gave you two
people. Then let's let's that they show up and like, well, Okay,
I might be game for that. It might be game for that.
Retirement, it's coming out of retirement. But it's it's hard starting to band.
It's hard. Book of gigs and like not to mention it. It's
it's a pain. Ask anybody who plays. Ask Randy Flucker man. Randy
Flucker will tell you all about how hard it is. I think Randy's gonna
come on, uh next week. He's had a huge thing he's announcing.
I think they're rolling it out at the end of this week. Okay,
actually fest and then and then he'll be in next week. It is not
Fluckerfest. Speaking of revenge, we just had total solar eclipse that has me
it's been heavy on my mind, the solar eclipse, to the point where
I am now trying to wrestle with the philosophical question did God create or is
God in the creation? In other words, did God step back and create
everything? Or is God in the creation of everything? And my mind is
He's in the creation of everything that's always evolving. And I say that because
you don't come here and start over. It's evolving. You pick up where
others left off. Okay, so God created everything, and I think his
fingerprint is on everything. But is he well right, but did he create
it and let it go? Or did he create it? And it's ever
expanding and ever evolving. And I would say it's ever expanding and ever evolving.
Okay, and it takes care of itself. Is a long philosophical question.
But that's but yes, there is. This is a this is a
this is a heavy thing that I've been talking to people about. My band
just broke up, and now you want to hit you with that. I'm
going to write some stuff and I'm going to read some philosopher, but I'm
going to come to my conclusion first. I have to do that. However,
we had that, and we know that hotels were charging more money because
they could loss applying to man. Yeah. On Reddit, a woman tells
a story that she booked a hotel room very far in advance in an area
she won't say where it is, that was going to be in totality,
and she got a very cheap rate, cheaper cheaper than the four ninety motel
the overnight of the hourly overnight, she got a sixty five dollars rate according
to her on Reddit okay, which I guess it could possibly be off season.
That just seems really low. We would need to know where she was.
Well, she doesn't say, right, and because what she claims the
room rate went to is light years ahead. So she said that she received
a notice from the hotel that her room had been canceled due to a quote
unquote computer error. Okay, And she writes this all out on social media,
and when she checked back with the hotel, she then discovered that every
room in the hotel had been jacked up to seven hundred dollars a night.
Now, I don't know how you convinced somebody a sixty five dollars because I
have a family that works in those places. It works in high end places
like you're where my brother is. You could pay up to one thousand dollars
a night to stay at the resort he's part of, and he's the head
sales guy, and he's been brought into I shouldn't say this, but he's
been brought into con A on Canadigua in on the lake and has told them
that they undercharged at six or four hundred dollars a night. Okay, So
I'm just saying, like those are the play They're never charging sixty five dollars
a night. Ever, at any point in the season are they charging sixty
five dollars a night. So that's why the sixty five jump to seven hundred
jump sounds like bullshit to me. But I continue with the story. So
the woman uh did the only thing that she could think to do. She
decided to call and she had her friends do this. They all called and
they booked every room in the hotel that was available at the seven hundred dollars
a night right, And they waited until the free cancelation time of four pm
the day before, and they canceled all of them. So on Sunday at
three point thirty, they called and canceled all the rooms that they had.
Ah. Now, I don't know where this is. I don't know if
this is that sixty five to seven hundred seems like an astronomical jump, Like
I if you told me sixty five to three point fifty, I could buy
it a little bit more. Anyway, that does every hotel if you look
in the back of the door. Every hotel has that they call rack rate,
which is that highest rate they can charge for that room. Okay,
it's always posted in the room, so I mean a lot of the rooms
are astronomically priced, so they have that window to move up and down.
Okay, sixty five to seven hundred. I mean, it's just okay,
it's very podcast. If she's in a summer type setting where it's like a
summer spa and summer activities, the winner, they're not going to be in
there. No, they're not going to be charged in that. But hell,
if you go to any place around here, it's probably one hundred and
I would say one hundred and fifteen dollars a night would be average. Take
any hotel, That's what I'm thinking. And you've hell, you go to
every cold ass placed with hockey. So the thing the hotel we stay when
we stayed in the Lake Placid, we get in the winter, we get
it for like two hundred bucks a night, Okay in the summer. I
looked at it one year just because I'm like, hey, let's go back
in summer when it's not you know, minus fifty degrees there sixty, taking
around six six seventy five night, seventy night. Yeah, for the same
hotel, stay right out in the lake, right right across the street,
right, so I need Tobago. No, well, all right, So
by the mid so by the time midnight, which would be the morning of
the eclipse came around, the hotel appeared to have plenty of vacancies. So
is this a good revenge? Because I go, I could see the satisfaction
in being pissed off. And it's pretty shitty to say we had a computer
error and and and not. That's the first time I've heard that that.
I've never heard of that happening. But again that doesn't mean it doesn't I
think where I was where I heard that there were places, the hotels that
are just canceling people and then jacking up the race seems fucking betty to mean,
it was terrible if you, if you planned your trip and you were
smart enough to have the force. Look, my sister's trying now to book
Airbnb and two years out for the eclipse in Portugal. They won't they won't
do it. Okay, they will not allow They say it's too far out,
and sure it is because they don't know what they can. I'm sure
you're waiting to see what is your competition going to do? What are the
hotels going to do? What are what's the other or whatever? But whatever,
what's what's a competition to Airbnb? And what are they going to do?
And where can we price ourselves and make the most amount of profit?
Right, So I'm sure that's why they do it. It's a lot of
work, but holy it is. But man, I give credit for the
fact that they actually did it. That's almost like that's as close as that's
almost that's almost like bankrupting a casino. I almost hoped that. I almost
wish that they called it three thirty. I wish that one or two were
a little late. Yeah, and they're stuck with, you know, three
rooms at seven hundred bucks a night, just for being petty assholes. Yeah,
there is something about the petty asshole that I kind of I feel you
of that. I don't know why I have. It's conflicting because I get
your frustration and it is a shitty thing, but I don't know. I
go, oh, I got screwed on this one. Yeah, moving on,
But that and that is a lot of work, and you got to
you know, you know this woman and this is a woman. And I'm
saying it, ladies, this is a woman. No guys spending the Now
guys calling up, Hey Dan, do me a favor, call this hotel
and book a room. Well, actually, now they think about it.
I just thought of four guys I could get. I I can see getting
that call from. I almost wonder if this is also crap, that she
maybe have booked this room not at sixty five dollars but at something else and
was second handing it, trying to putting it on Facebook market or whatever.
Oh he needs a room. Oh, Danny's a room. Uh, you're
sub letting your hotel. You're sub letting your hotel room. That's interesting.
Never thought of that. But how would so how well, you'd have to
be a really hot event, oh like the solar eclipse that you really wanted
to get to. And I'm paying the sixty five dollars rate, but I'm
going to charge you seven hundred. You pay me, and then I'll just
leave my credit card there. Yeah, yeah, all incidentals everything on me.
Just pay me the seven hundred out of that card. Incidentals up to
one hundred dollars of that. That's two bottles of water in a bag of
nuts in the fridge. I'll tell you when I used to lift drive.
It was one Valentine's Day, I think it was twenty sixteen or something.
I drove a couple. They're in separate houses. Both had rings on to
the four ninety motel. Oh yeah, oh yeah. I enabled an affair.
Didn't know it at the time. Didn't know at the time, but
I'm like, huh okay, oh look, it's not the affair that I'm
owing, it's the four motel I'm going we called there. I was like,
that's nasty. It sounds nasty, like I I That's another thing I
wanted to start. I may start doing just many documentaries and things and try
to go and just talk to the iPad. I was gonna walk around and
plug it in, but I never got around to. You know what,
charge We got charge right there, thank you. I will pause for just
one moment that all out the other side of course, yeh church, fuck
the fortn Idea. By the way, we'll go to the gates. That
lady was personable. Well that's the thing, is the the the lady at
the gates motel was very personable, but the uh so like going and talk
to the talking to them to me would be really interesting, like what goes
not what goes on there? But you know what goes on there. You
know what goes on there. Do you ever worry that you're an ex gessary
to a crime or you do? Marley? Does it bother you that you
may be an accessory to an affair? Have you found a body on ice
missing a kidney? Yeah, I'm just I was just doing my job.
I know, I know. I didn't feel bad about him, Like,
if that's what you want to do, Hey, how was you tip?
What? They didn't? So they didn't tip? Sons of bitches. There's
certain people that tip and certain people who don't. I'd have gone back to
the first house of the guy and I've been knocked the door. Hey,
room seventy three, there was one knock in the door. There was one
guy picked up around that time who swore up and down that he went to
high school with Dave Mustaine from Metallica and Megadeath, that Dave Mustaine grew up
in Batavia, which we know is not true, and that he that that
Lemmy from motorhead paid for his wedding. This guy was so cracked out and
I had to drop. I had to bring him to a place where the
windows are like kind of like plastic and boarded up, and he top it
right out and he comes out with the bag. I'm like, oh,
I know what this is all about. He goes, hey, can you
do a small slow crawl by my old lady's house trove by? I just
want to see she's messing around on me. Man, Like, this dude
is far Oh that's funny. I think we're back on the cameras. We
had a iPad ran out of juice and I didn't ever plugged in. Everything's
right here now too. It's like it's sloppy. If for somebody else i'd
be yelling with this is sloppy. The barrier to enter for your cables is
right there. No, I got rid of the barrier to entry. I
did. I got rid of the barrier to entry on purpose and now and
now it's all right there. But I think I want to go out and
talk to that lady and and interview her. There's a lot of projects I
want to do. I got a lot of things happening and none of them.
Has anybody ever done a reality show about a hotel with hourly rates?
Does anybody's creak? Oh yeah, a reality show? Though I don't know.
I never thought that show. I never found that show funny. I
never watched it. I watched it. I thought it was funny, did
you. Yeah, I couldn't get into it. Well, because you don't
like gay people. That's not who's gay. Son is definitely gay. He's
very flamboyant. He's got a boyfriend on the show. I'm pretty sure.
Yeah. My wife and I used to watch Project Runway. It's a show
you watch there. They were focused on on stuff. God, I know
you, that's not That's not how I operate. That's that I don't like
gay people. Fanity projects never played in Elton Johnson. They haven't. I
would love I would love to play it. They don't play Elton john George
Michael, anything from Michael, not a gosh thing, nothing, no,
nothing else we have. Come on, you're out of your gay artists?
Aready? How's that? Pilosis Ethridge? Yeah she was yeah, uh she
is? Oh yeah, Melissa Ethers and I like Meliss. She had some
good stuff. Little Richard I don't know daviled it out? Do you think
so? Oh he admitted it? Oh okay, admitted it? Oh yeah?
Who else did boy go both ways to allegedly tongue there? Who's the
Who's the guy from England that had a couple of hits in Rod Stewart?
Well Rod, Now this is amazing to me because stories went viral before viral
was a thing. And his was that his stomach had to be pumped because
he had so much, isn't it? And I think he addressed it.
I think he addressed that. I'm pretty sure he did, okay, and
that it wasn't true. Who's the the guy though? That's gone very uh.
I think he just does it to try to get a reaction out of
people. Now, but modern singer Sam Allett, Sam go Say, Sam
Elliott, Sam Sam Smith, Sam Smith, he'say, yeah, no he
is. Yeah, but he goes way over the top sometimes. Oh yeah,
we'll just devil outfits. Yeah, he was the rapper that did this,
the little nas X No he's gay. No, the other one the
one that did the old time wrote yeah, that's yeah. Gavin Rossdale from
Bush supposed that like actually there were stories about him. He actually lived with
the dude for a while, and boy George actually wrote about in his biography,
and they asked Gavin about it. He says, there's probably a long
line of people who are going to be suing boy George. And then the
guy who boy George said he had the affair with it. Oh yeah,
no, it's it's true. Gavin and I lived together for several years.
Really. That guy was park Wall. He hate push and leaves. Hey,
oh he living three guys at one point, didn't you. Oh yeah,
yeah. One of them was homeless. It was taking all kinds and
didn't matter. Hey, hard times, work, hard times, hard times.
All right, we will Jesus was homeless, was he? Yeah,
just one more time. I have to hear it one more time. According
to retailers, the most popular Halloween mass this year is O. J.
Simpson and the most popular Halloween greeting is I'll kill you and that guy who's
bringing over your glasses or treats. I just love that. I'm sorry,
I just added to this. You do yourself. If you're go to YouTube,
you type in Norm McDonald jay and just get every minute ten minutes and
we got to I'm gonna keep trying to get our buddy Tim Grant, and
I know he was very busy today, but he's done the interviews and he
wrote that about Norm McDonald no Jay possibly burying the knife, I mean the
hatchet up between them. For Dan Marilla who's bandless. For Kevin Muir,
who knows that hotels post their most expensive rate right on the back of the
door. It's good information. For our ninety eight year old friend Jack Foy.
I'm Bill Moran. Will see you Monday.