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Streaming live. I mean, iHeartRadio
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with Steve Rivera and Jake and Salez
on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Hey,

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welcome back to OIN the Ball here
on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve,

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he's Jay. Now we have at
least with breaking news just I on

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the Ball breaking news on Fox Sports
fourteen fifty. Okay, so starting with

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our breaking news today we have the
PAC twelve is starting the process of separating

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from their commissioner, George Kleavkov.
I mean, does the PAC twelve even

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really exist anymore? I mean now
they don't have a commissioner, no teams.

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Well, you know, I'm sure
it's gonna be a thing where Okay,

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at the end of the fiscal year
of the school year, you know,

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we're gone, We're done, You're
done. They'll probably get, you

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know, with with just the two
schools left, Washington State and Oregon State,

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they'll probably just get somebody from one
of the schools to sort of say,

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okay, you know, we're running
it. And and until they do

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decide to do whatever they're gonna do. I mean, they can't, they

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can't keep paying claff Cop to do
stuff. And at the end of the

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day, at the end of the
jay, how much a fault is he

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for this given the history Steve,
It's hard to know because it's hard to

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know. As with Larry Scott.
That's where I was going. You know,

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how much did the schools they trade
contributed to what he was doing.

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He's going to get the blame and
look, Larry Scott, he playoff cop.

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You know, Larry Scott was was
not a good manager of the conference

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for other reasons that we saw,
very visible reasons that we saw just how

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he he was like in this palace
and he had a limo and he you

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know, the money that he spent, but they let him do that.

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Right in this case, you know, you get a sense that nobody would

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And maybe part of it was he
wasn't forceful enough in saying, guys or

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people, you know, we're in
big trouble here. We need to look

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at doing these things right. He
didn't. It seemed like he didn't have

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the ability to direct you're talking about
the president, Georgia, to direct the

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president. But then again, did
he recognize what was happening? Well,

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yeah, right, So so when
talking to UH or listening to the President

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Robins in his explanation that that press
comes right, it was more of a

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George was being cocky, uh and
saying, we're gonna play it close to

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the best. We want more money
than what you're gonna give us, and

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we're gonna hold out until you give
it to us. I'm would hold my

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breath until until I can't hold my
breath and says go ahead, Yeah,

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you have to have fun with it
and we're gone. I mean, that's

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to me, that's that was his
issue. Yeah, and would still be

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talking about the back twelve going to
Vegas having fun. Yeah, yeaha exactly,

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No, exactly. And so I
think that he's an ego. I

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think it's more ego than yeah.
Just you know, he didn't seem he

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seemed like a guy who had a
really good head on his shoulders on this

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stuff. Right, come up.
But but somehow got away from it.

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Yeah, yeah, I can somehow
through all of that, they killed a

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league, Yeah right, they killed
the league that had a lot of history,

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and I mean it was a perfect
storm of badness, without question,

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starting ten twelve years ago. We
know a lot of people in that building

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who were unhappy with Scott how he
handled things, and then they handed the

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baton to to kleot cough yeah,
and the baton was dropped. Well,

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well, I don't know that he
ever even had the baton in his hand.

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He okay, because the week he
comes in you know, Texas,

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Oklahoma happens, right, and then
you know, and then he gets blindsided

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by USC and U c l A. How much of that was because of

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him? Right? Yeah, you
know, and then then you know the

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the TV they they it's by all
accounts they mismanaged the TV deal. How

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much of that was him? How
much of that was the president? And

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by that I mean you know there
was that whole thing where they got offered

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you know, thirty million a year
and he's you know, one of the

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university presidents said that that's not up
more right, So, but again not

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surprising that this is kind of the
end for Georgia playoff, Right, Okay,

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he'll go back to Vegas, and
you know, he never moved from

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Vegas, so he'll just go back
there and he'll get another job, you

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know, more in his element,
right, right, Maybe I just stay

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with him for the pectell. It's
kind of sad though, the whole thing

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no more pack twelve. Really very
sad, Yeah, very sad. I

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mean, you know, I'm gonna
I'm gonna shed it tear at the pack

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golf tournament at the end. Think
you know what we're gonna do if there

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was no place in the final,
Well, we'll do is let's get a

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group photo. We'll all pull a
T. J. McConnell and kiss for

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a photo up. We will,
you know, because with the guys that

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I go with you, we always
got our picture. We always take our

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picture on you know, on the
court at the end of the thing.

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We've got one from every year that
we worked to tournam Yeah, Anthony and

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I did that in Indianapolis after we
thought, you know, the paper clothes

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blah blah blah, we went to
Kissophore because we didn't know if we're gonna

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do this ever again. Sure we
do. But yeah, it's it's it's

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gonna be very sad. It's sad
for me too, growing up from l

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A Like these are the teams that
we saw and that was part of the

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reason I wanted to come here right
right, And it's I mean, I

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guess I'm graduating right in time.
But it is sad. I mean that

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and I love that about Arizona Sports, that we were playing all these teams

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that grew up watching. Yeah,
you're right, what do you have anyways

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for you? Of a players have
invited to the NFL Combine that is Jacob

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Cowing, Tanner mclocke, Jordan Morgan, and Michael Wiley, And it is

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the most players invites to the NFL
Combine for Arizona since twenty eleven. You

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know, not to bring up the
name again, but Jed Fish did talk

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about how they really did come in
here and develop players. Sure, and

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you gotta give them credit for that. They did. They recruited players,

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they developers. Now he took credit
for recruiting some of these guys, Wiley

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and Morgan in particular, when he
did not because he said, we recruited

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all those players, Well, no
you didn't. You recruited a bunch of

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them, you know. Yeah,
you recruited Jacob Cowen, Yeah, you

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recruited Tanne McLaughlin. But Jordan Morgan
and Michael Wiley were already here. But

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he did, Yes, they did
come in. That coaching staff did a

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really nice job of getting players.
They've got They've got a bunch of NFL

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capable players, and so you know, thank you for that. Yeah,

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and he's gotten more in the future
with right tempers, and he left behind

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a whole bunch of them. Yeah, it's not all bad blood. No,

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you know, look to me again. He's he's in. He's in

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the rearview mirror for me. Moving
forward next, good good luck up there,

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have fun, enjoy the rain,
and we'll enjoy the sunshine. There's

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a little yeah, I would have
been surprised if there was not a little

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tia, what do you want your
coffee? A little bitter? I can't

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help us. Well, we were
playing that on my mom and dad.

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I've seen this. Have a great
time, but enjoy the rain. Go

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ahead, what else do you have? So dayl and Terry. Last night,

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our former Arizona, our former Arizona
guard and his bulls beat the Hawks

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last night. But he's kind of, you know, flying under the radar.

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He scored seven points last night and
actually played twenty one minutes last night.

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His you know, minutes per games
this season has only been at seven

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point eight, So we played twenty
one minutes last night, and that's why

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it was kind of I guess a
little bit news were these since he's only

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been scoring two point five points per
games, and he scored seven and played

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twenty one minutes, so maybe it's
a new start, right. Seven minutes

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to me is probably five more than
I thought he was getting so oh really,

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yeah, because he hasn't been a
he's kind of been just there.

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Yeah, as you know, KloCo
is no longer on a roster given his

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situation. Ben Matheran's killing it in
Indianapolis. Yeah, and Dalen Terry has

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been a guy that right under the
radar, playing on the radar. He

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might be better off at a different
team, who knows. Yeah, but

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we were surprised that he's actually there
anyway, right, because he should have

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stayed another year, so I think. But he's getting paid a lot of

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a lot, and you know,
he'll continue to grow and get better and

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yeah, yeah, the thing about
it that at least there's a group of

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kids coming out this year, and
there's a group of kids coming out next

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year that want that job. Yeah. It's always telling me he doesn't really

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have the physicality, so you know, it's always you're always working for your

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job and anything. But I just
loved watching him play though, so energetic.

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Yeah, he's like a bunny hopping
around the court. And then something

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I thought that also was interesting is
that the Orlando Magic. I haven't really

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heard anyone talking about this or I
haven't seen all my feeds or anything,

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but the Orlando Magic or retiring Shacks
jersey tonight, which I think is kind

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of interesting because he played there for
was it one or two seasons and then

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got rid to the Lakers and then
he had his great career. Yeah,

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so that was just kind of the
start. But it's kind of like he's

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Shacks, so he have to hire
his jersey wherever he played, Right,

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Like the Lakers are going to retire
Lebron's jersey, right, I didn't did

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the Miami Championship for the Lakers.
I don't know if the Miami Heat have

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already retired it or if they planned
to retire it. It's kind of like

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along the way, you're going to
retire the guys. Guy, Yeah,

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guys jersey. Weren't you here last
week when you talked about the Mamba's jersey

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retirement? Oh? Was the statues
statue? Okay, Kobe and the Actually

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I didn't know this. It was
three statues that they only revealed one though,

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But there's gonna be one of Kobe
and the number eight one in the

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twenty four and one with Keanna so
but they only unveiled the one of him

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in the number eight. Did you
watch any of that? I did watch

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some of it, Like Genie Buss
spoke and yeah, I'm not it's really

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sad for you, all of that
stuff, honestly, right because he was

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your guy, right, he was
your guy. Yeah, I'm sure it

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was an emotional day in LA.
But yeah, what else you have?

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I you know, we were talking
about this earlier, the Nicks buzzer beater

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last night, the Knicks or the
Rockets. The shot a buzzer beater three

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in the last second and he missed
the shot but got fouled, and people

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were kind of saying it's not it
was very controversial. It wasn't really a

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foul. They both made contact.
Then they won off free throws five to

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one O three the Rockets. So
people are just saying that was kind of

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controversial, that was all over my
feets this morning, that it shouldn't have

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been a foul, and yeah,
but didn't did THEBA actually come out and

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say that was not a foul?
Did they say that? I think so?

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I didn't. I think I saw
something said it sucks. I feel

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like they shouldn't do that. I
feel like they should just go with it.

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If they called a foul, like
and they you know, the game's

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done. Like I feel like they
can't go back on it like that.

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Anything else, that's it. I
have something big because we watched this last

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year. Who was the star of
the softball season last year? You remember

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Devin No, no, no,
there's the Alice Skaggs. No, no,

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no, I'll take it overall all
called softball. Oh the oh the

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picture at Oklahoma. I saw that
she got hurt, she got her she

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bleowed her knee, she blew out
her knee ind Nebraska and she's she's playing

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at Nebraska. But she's at Nebraska, she's not playing. She left Oklahoma

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and go back to her home state
and and she blew out he knee and

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she's done for the year. And
she was fantastic. Yeah, she was

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fantastic. No, she's out.
She loves I saw that. I saw

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that she's a well. Arizona's five
and o right, did you see what

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they did? I think five and
five and oh five run rules a perfect

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game and only allowed one run the
competition wasn't you know what you would consider

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sure still five, you know,
that's pretty good. And they're hosting the

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Fiesta Bowl this weekend. Who's who's
here? You know who's here, because

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that's part of it. They have
to be playing better competition. They did

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lose a picture I guess last week
the two injury or oh yeah, yeah,

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one of their one of their young
pictures had had a surgery sing a

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shoulder surgery or an animal surgery or
something something. Yes, I did see

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that. I did see that.
But again, you know, they've they've

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uh struggled in some of these you
know, they they've lost some games that

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you thought, uh you know,
so no, I think, Uh,

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they were impressive. They were impressive
over the weekend in their own tournament.

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But they you know, they've got
some games to play coming up. So

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we'll see the long term. Stay
twice doubleheader. Maybe we should get to

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coach on I tried the other day
Arkansas. Omaha. She's only available to

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us on Mondays because they practiced during
our Okay, so we'll have to we'll

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have to, uh, we'll have
to get try and see a day that

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we can get her. Okay,
Okay, what time is it you want

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to go? Pete Williams is ready
for us already. Okay, so let's

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go and then come back with Pete
Williams. All right, sounds great,

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This is I on the Ball with Steve

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I on the Bar. Hey, welcome

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back to the ball here on Fox
Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera.

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He's jacin Zaus Now on the phone. The guy I like to call the

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cornerstone of the Arizona basketball program,
Pete Williams. How are you? I'm

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good. I like that cornerstone.
I love it. I know who you

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are. I'm great, you're doing
well. Hey, you're on Facebook and

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and other things like me, and
we kind of chat every now and again.

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How would how would Pete Williams handle
the stuff that you read today?

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How would you have handled it in
nineteen eighty four? Anything? First of

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can you hear me? Okay?
Yes? Yes? The the easy thing

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would be the last out, you
know, get angry and this and that.

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But I would have enough mental fortitude
to just block it out and would

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kind of lean on like a lot
of the things I learned from from Coach

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Host and not only just being physically
tough, but eventually stuff as well.

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So it would be easy to last
out. But I think I would handle

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it pretty well. You kind of
respond frequently. I know what you do

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on my page? Would I say
stuff kind of with your pragmatic way?

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I mean you you do it now? Yeah. But here here's the thing.

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I do my best to do it
in a respectful way, because there

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are times, you know, kids, you not. I read some things

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and I want to snap because for
me, I get it. It's a

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way to criticize. We have some
people. Oh you should never critic No,

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it's fine to criticize as long as
you do it in a respectable manner.

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But we have some people out there
to get on these guys in a

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person space, I mean like calling
them garbage and trash and stuff like that,

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and that really that really irritates me. I want to laugh back at

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those things people. So they're not
talking about me. They still talking about

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what I look at is like my
little brothers and everything. Which is a

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fine line between criticized, criticizing and
appropriate manner and just being just rude and

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mean and just just terrible. Actually, do you it sounds like you know

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you're you pay attention to that stuff, but it got it would it would

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have to be hard if you're playing
and you're sitting there and somebody's saying stuff

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about you in particular, and it's
personal, how do you how do you

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not respond to that? Again?
Well, there you go. If it's

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personal, Well, old, let
me back up, because I would like

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to see coachos who would have some
rules in regards to that. You know,

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coachos will be our buffer and just
tell us to stay off of it,

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or if we're gonna respond, make
sure of finding an appropriate way so

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again, I like to think I
would lean on the teachings of coaches that

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if if the coach tell me has
that kind of philosophy, you do you

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know of coaches who do that.
I'm pretty sure that there's somebody within within

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the program that kind of educates these
guys maybe prior to each season and maybe

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have to do some refreshment courses throughout
the season. I like to think somebody

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that that's helping them with that.
Yeah, that makes sense. Go and

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ask me you're back to the basket
question. Okay, so we've we've we've

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had this conversation a few times and
with different people and talking about the center

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of today. And you were a
center, you know, did you consider

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yourself a back to the basket center? Let me ask you that first tech.

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No, dude, I was six
seven hundred and ninety pounds. I

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was forced to play that way because, you know, out of necessity O

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our big freshmen, you know,
weren't ready to play, ready to ship

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you. So I was always a
swing player, slashing and driving and cutting.

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So it was a new experience to
me, especially being as life as

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I was of the adjustment, but
I didn't learn though. But but you

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see these guys now, you see
Zach Edy, for instance, he's going

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to be the National Player of the
Year, but yeah, he probably doesn't

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have much of a future in the
NBA. Is what is what they say?

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Because that player is sort of out
of uh lost, out of favor

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in the NBA. You know DeAndre
Ayton, who all the ability in the

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world, and I don't know how
much of it is, you know,

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just attitude and approach. But the
player that the center who parks himself in

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the lane, you know, throw
the ball into him and he's gonna hit

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a little hook shot. That player
seems to be being phased out. You

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agree with that? Do you think
that's the case. There is no there

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is no scene to be that player
is phased out. Okay, you know,

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what do you think of that little
credit? Because he does have some

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similar face up game. He doesn't
use stuff, but he can't face up

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and hit a fifteen foot it.
But back eighty you look at was it

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drew Timmy from the other guy?
Right? The biggest one was the big

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kid that played in Illinois a couple
of years ago. That Kofe whatever his

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name was. He was a dominant
college player. But in today's NBA,

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there's no place for somebody like that. Do you hate that? Unfortunately,

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follow me experience the same thing.
Yeah, yeah, do you hate that?

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Are you disappointed in that? Or
are you just kind of like that's

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what it is? The low post
game is completely gone, and and yeah

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I watched NBA games or whatever here
and there, but it's so frustrating to

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me. But guys just standing in
the corner while two or three guys go

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up top playing pick and roll and
they're just sending the corner with their hands

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ready, hoping to get a pass
to get a shot. So I'm just

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love all the movement. I love
seems to run plays, you know,

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where all five people are involved in
the play. So it's just a different

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game. But you know, it
is what it is, right right.

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We were talking about that earlier with
with Arizona. Uh, I'll ask you

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the obvious question because I asked it
to everybody. H do you trust this

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Arizona basketball team? Hey this listen
to me. Listen to me. Okay,

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we were rolling earlier in the year, and when we got the number

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one ranking, that was well deserved. That was absolutely well deserved. But

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then we went to a stress when
we weren't playing playing well. Now I

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wasn't happy about the way we're playing, but I never lost faith because I

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know what it's like to go to
some trials and tribulation the team. But

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that team can eventually find their groove. And now I'm not saying we have

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found that groove yet because we're playing
we're playing well. Still not as well,

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not as well as be worth at
the beginning of the year. But

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I haven't lost faith that this is
a Final four quality team. I still

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expect them to get there, and
they have just get a chance of anybody

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to win the national championship, because
I still think they're gonna get better.

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Okay, this is a This is
a little bit of a quiz because there's

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a correct answer to this based on
analytics and stats and all that kind of

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stuff. All Right, who's the
most important in your mind? Who's the

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most important player on this team?
Who? Who? Who do they win

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and lose with? Hey? Hey, here's here's the thing. He gets

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a lot of black from people.
And and I'll be I love the kids

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first of all, and I still
get frustrated at times because I think he

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settles a D three. I'm not
he with a D three when you know

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you can still move it a little
closer. I don't mind the three,

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it's so crazy deep threes. Like
a little frustrated with, but I still

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think he is the guy and I
love with Coelos him right now. Fellows

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like the Trays, the Swiss Army
Knights doing everything, but Caleb God,

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Okay, Well that that that's the
answer to the quiz is because you know

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what what we what we were we're
being told what we found out, what

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we found out through again through any
one of a number of factors, is

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that actually Pela Larson is the most
important guy. That Caleb can play a

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bad game and they can still win. You know if everybody else plays,

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but if Pella plays bad, they
they don't play well. And and you

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know, because he does so many
different things, Caleb is your score.

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He's the guy who's gonna handle the
ball. Uh you know, but Pella

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he's needed in so many areas that
if he's not having a good game,

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you see, you see it.
And that we were shocked when we were

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told that. But as as we
when we were told that. Since then

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we've been watching and this kind of
comes come to fruition. Well, I

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get all that or whatever. Again, that's all that analytics stuff and that

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analytics that junk out is a great
player, he does a lot of things

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or whatever. But I still think
this team lives and died with Caleb Love.

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Yeah, which, of course I've
said this. I've said this from

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the beginning of the season. I'll
say it now. Uh. There's two

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things that concern me. Ballow at
the free throw line. I'm talking down

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the road in and important stuff at
one and two Caleb going uh uh,

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going on his own when when things
don't need to go on his own in

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a crucial game. Two things that
concerned me from here forward or since November

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forward. That's just premire. You're
right on with that, you know,

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those are these two of my biggest
concerns. Also, you're right on with

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that. Had you ever been with
a teammate like Caleb in cop No,

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we didn't really have that. We
coach, So I've been with some guys

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that can just slot out, score
to the ball. You know, did

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you play with Alex English, Oh
yeah, alex Is. Now you're talking

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about poetry and motion and literally the
poetry motion. A lot of people don't

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realize, but Alex was actually legitimate
poet off the court because he had a

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lot of his writing. Beast he
published got played without. Was he one

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of those guys? Was he one
of those guys? Yeah? No,

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no, no, because Alex is
just the game for him. He could

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see see literally, I was with
him. We beat Houston Alice for fifty

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four points on Ralph Sampson and chemo
Logic one and it was just the easiest,

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most effortless for you on your life. He was just everything he did

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was easy. Caleb, Caleb works
for his stuff. Alex, he was

407
00:28:17.839 --> 00:28:21.200
easy for right for him. That's
a That's the thing. I think that's

408
00:28:21.240 --> 00:28:23.680
a great point that Caleb works for
his bride. He does, and he

409
00:28:23.720 --> 00:28:27.720
works hard. But the one thing
that that Tommy loves about it sometimes is

410
00:28:27.759 --> 00:28:33.200
that he doesn't search for his shots. I think too many times he searched

411
00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:38.359
for the shots. Yeah, I
hear that. That's and tom Tommy's made

412
00:28:38.359 --> 00:28:41.319
a point where he's trying to well, at least he's mentioned like, you

413
00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:44.759
know, he would be happy with
you know, it's not that the number

414
00:28:44.759 --> 00:28:48.000
of points just have to get twins
from every game. He'd be happy with

415
00:28:48.119 --> 00:28:52.559
him getting fifteen points game, but
contributing in awe aspect, you know of

416
00:28:52.599 --> 00:28:55.079
the game. Now, he does
surprise me every now and then. Why

417
00:28:55.079 --> 00:28:59.440
shouldn't say surprised. I was maybe
surprised some up because he he is a

418
00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:02.440
willing past. You know, he's
made some passes or whatever. He had

419
00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:04.960
games he had maybe five six assists, which for him is huge, and

420
00:29:06.079 --> 00:29:10.359
also five four so he does contribute
all across the game. But yet everybody

421
00:29:10.440 --> 00:29:14.079
sees this is the points, number
of shots he puts up, and you

422
00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:18.079
know what some considered the number of
bad shots. And we're talking to Pete

423
00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:22.839
Williams, former Arizona great or,
as Steve said, the cornerstone of of

424
00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:27.680
Loot's program. Okay, saying one
of the great too. I'll take that.

425
00:29:29.559 --> 00:29:32.880
So Pete, we're a question that
we get. We we asked ourselves

426
00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:37.359
yesterday and we had some fans come
on and ask what this season, what

427
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:44.200
would be of disappointing and to finish
to the season, how far do they

428
00:29:44.240 --> 00:29:48.880
need to go for you to not
be disappointed. I want to get at

429
00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:56.519
least minimum minimum the regional finals.
That's minimum. You might get to see

430
00:29:56.519 --> 00:30:00.200
them. That happens in l A. In l A. Yes, yeah,

431
00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:03.480
it'll be in la. Uh huh. Are you disappointed in this team

432
00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:07.759
if they don't get to the final
four? Now, I would be disappointed,

433
00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:11.359
but not necessarily disappointed in the team, right, you know, because

434
00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:14.440
I know how I know how to
term the thing works. Man. You

435
00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:18.119
got the best team going and all
it takes is one game. And that's

436
00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:22.119
the scene that concerns me. If
they don't make it, the nayfayers will

437
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:25.640
be out in full of fact,
full of fact, you know, and

438
00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:26.839
I won't be one. I would
Hey, you know what, we just

439
00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:30.279
get up, just ourself off and
get back at it next year. That'd

440
00:30:30.319 --> 00:30:32.960
be my outlook with it. So
so let me ask you, because you

441
00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:36.400
watch, you watched thoroughly, what
do you think of Jaden Bradley, Because

442
00:30:36.400 --> 00:30:40.920
he's another kind of guy that's off. I love what he I love where

443
00:30:40.920 --> 00:30:44.279
his game is going, you know, I mean in in case it they

444
00:30:44.559 --> 00:30:48.119
are really really bringing it in valuable
contribution and what well. I think one

445
00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:52.279
things I love most about it is
that they're both so unselfish. There's no

446
00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:56.960
complaining or but I can see no
complaining. Whatever they accepted their roles and

447
00:30:56.039 --> 00:31:00.960
they're excelling in their roles off the
bench. Yeah, no, I hear

448
00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:03.799
you. And and kJ Lewis I
mean just look, you know, I

449
00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:08.920
really really really really like him,
especially what he's done over these last few

450
00:31:08.920 --> 00:31:14.680
weeks. I mean he's really come
and done some stuff that you know they

451
00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:18.559
have to have, right. The
sky is the limit for that kid.

452
00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:22.119
And I love this defensive intensity and
I just hope that everybody buy in the

453
00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:26.440
way has particularly on the defensive end
of the court. Where where will he

454
00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:29.599
fit next year? Do you think
Caleb Love is gone? Is he?

455
00:31:29.720 --> 00:31:33.839
Okay? Okay? You know what
that really interested me big time because you

456
00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:37.519
know, you got the kid Carter
Bryant coming in. The other kid is

457
00:31:37.839 --> 00:31:41.559
Jamari Phillips, who I think a
lot of people really really high on.

458
00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:45.640
But you know, kJ will have
a year of experience under his belt and

459
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:49.200
kJ has a man's body of ready. So all I can say is coach

460
00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:53.000
mooy gonna have another nice problem in
his hand. Uh. If these other

461
00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:56.680
two kids are as good as they
are supposed to be, and I think

462
00:31:56.720 --> 00:32:01.920
they are with kJ, and then
Bradley be back to the I don't know,

463
00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:06.240
it's gonna be some cious competition back
there. Man. So let me

464
00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:14.200
ask you, is is what I'm
seeing? God Johnson, keishak Johnson.

465
00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:20.720
Is he Pete Williams two point zero? He's very well well could be,

466
00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:24.240
But I think what I you know, I understand they want to, you

467
00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:27.880
know, develop his perimeter game.
You know, I get all that,

468
00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:30.039
but I get frustrated to sometimes when
I just see him in the corner because

469
00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:32.920
I think he's one of those guys
where he should be this professional motion,

470
00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:37.000
constantly on the move, cut and
slash and this and that. I think

471
00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:40.960
he can affect offensive rebounding anyore even
more that way or whatever. But never

472
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:46.039
lett, I'm very pleased happen with
his team. I just don't like just

473
00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:51.039
standing waiting the ball and shooting.
I know they're trying to develop a perimeter

474
00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:53.680
game, but I think he offers
more as far as the team successful.

475
00:32:53.720 --> 00:32:57.880
He's cutting, slash and vibing and
doing those things right, more of the

476
00:32:57.880 --> 00:33:00.839
stuff that you did back in the
day, right right. So let me

477
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:04.799
ask you, so, have you
never really watched you play when when you

478
00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:08.880
played here? Did you what was
the furthest shot you ever took? Oh?

479
00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:14.720
Probably no word fourteen fifteen feet at
the most right right you were there

480
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:17.880
three point line. Yeah no,
and the way O the way our office

481
00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:21.400
was run between me, Eddie and
Morgan, you know, it was just

482
00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:24.880
I was like a triangle with just
the three of us between the free throw

483
00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:30.400
lines and lower baseline area right right. And that's what Bradley. I think

484
00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:34.279
Bradley would work tremendously near the basket, attack the basket. Yeah, and

485
00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:37.200
he does. And then I love
the way kJ Lewis attacks the basket.

486
00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:39.359
Those two guys are so quick down
the lane. It's it's you know,

487
00:33:39.400 --> 00:33:42.960
you start seeming going down the going
down the lane, you're not going to

488
00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:47.559
get there, and then they get
there better. Yeah, yeah, okay,

489
00:33:47.599 --> 00:33:51.720
anything else there, Pete Yeah yeah, real quick. I'm glad you

490
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:53.759
guys. I got to get this
off my chest and I'm so excited,

491
00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:58.160
would be. I'll get it over
real quick. So you know, my

492
00:33:58.279 --> 00:34:01.839
oldest daughter, Heiress is uh thirty
two. He's a U kardiac nurse from

493
00:34:01.839 --> 00:34:07.599
Pennsylvania and if Beyonce the doctor at
the same hospital in Pennsylvania. They've both

494
00:34:07.639 --> 00:34:13.400
been together as we're freshman the UNLB
in twenty ten where their time in Tensulan

495
00:34:13.559 --> 00:34:16.199
just coming up, and the plan
all along that time was over they would

496
00:34:16.199 --> 00:34:22.679
start to move further west. Okay, So Lee has an interview the weekend

497
00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:28.000
of March twenty second to twenty fourth
in Tucson at Tucson Medical Center. What

498
00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:30.800
makes this even more special? I
will get a chance to beat my first

499
00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:36.800
grandchild, little miss Ava, who
will be five weeks old tomorrow. I

500
00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:38.599
will get a chance to meet it
for the first time. And of all

501
00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:44.519
places, Tucson, Arizona. How
crazy is that? That is so cool?

502
00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:46.719
Very cool, very cool. Emc
man, that's the place. That's

503
00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:52.360
absolutely good luck and congratulations. Yeah, thank you gentlemen. You guys are

504
00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:57.559
the best in the business than all
right, you got to take care.

505
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Saved that clip. We're gonna save
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least for another fourteen minutes. If
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554
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two zero four one six seventy four
forty you'd like to hear from you A

555
00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:39.400
great to talk to there was,
Well, he's always he's very pragmatic,

556
00:38:39.679 --> 00:38:45.079
especially if you follow him on Facebook
and stuff. He gets involved in the

557
00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:46.800
conversations, doesn't go over the top. He just says, you know,

558
00:38:47.239 --> 00:38:50.960
slower roll, slower roll, and
blah blah blah. Yeah. Yeah,

559
00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:53.119
you love guys like that because you
know what, he's played the game.

560
00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:55.639
Yeah, right, and he was
very good at it. It he's very

561
00:38:55.679 --> 00:38:59.760
good at it, so he could
have every reason to go out there and

562
00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:01.199
say, you know, guys shouldt
the hell up. I'm really good.

563
00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:06.199
You're not get out of my face. But you know when somebody just kind

564
00:39:06.239 --> 00:39:10.079
of, you know, straightforward understands
where people are coming from and then you

565
00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:15.159
know, handles his comments that way, that's refreshing. In fact, he

566
00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:17.800
commented on one of my things after
somebody came up, come on and said,

567
00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:22.039
uh and said something kind of negative, but then he got involved.

568
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:25.719
Yeah, the guy said, well, hearing you say this and all the

569
00:39:25.800 --> 00:39:28.880
respect I have for you, I
saw that. Yeah blah blah blah.

570
00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:30.000
You know, the guy kind of
took it back this Yeah, yeah,

571
00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:32.760
I don't kick my ass. Yeah, probably, Well, that's it.

572
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:36.400
The guy's probably going, Okay,
he's going to come and kick my ass

573
00:39:36.559 --> 00:39:39.880
and and he probably still can't,
right, you know, So that's the

574
00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:44.079
respect they have for him. Yeah, you know, And and again one

575
00:39:44.159 --> 00:39:51.599
of the under appreciated guys for what
Arizona basketball is today, no question,

576
00:39:51.719 --> 00:39:55.119
one of the under he and Eddie
Smith, uh uh, all those guys

577
00:39:55.159 --> 00:39:58.480
from those first two years. Okay, let me go there, go here.

578
00:39:58.920 --> 00:40:01.519
I don't think we've talked about this. Who would be okay, those

579
00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:06.840
two good, great, great picks. Who would you say would be the

580
00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:12.719
most one of the most underrated players
in that time and in not that time,

581
00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:15.840
but in the loot time, in
the lut time. Already have an

582
00:40:15.920 --> 00:40:22.000
under and asking because I have my
guy, an underrated guy and maybe underrated,

583
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:28.519
underappreciated, underappreciated. Judd Bushler popped
into okay, okay, right because

584
00:40:28.559 --> 00:40:31.440
he you know, again not a
flashy athlete. You never think he'd last,

585
00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:36.519
right, but you know it was
really good, you know, lasting

586
00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:38.639
in the NBA was a very important
part of a couple of teams there,

587
00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:44.239
captain. Yeah, and so I
feel like jud Bushlers is one of those

588
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:51.800
let me okay, Chris Mills.
Yeah, Chris Mills, because he was

589
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:54.320
part of a group that he was
so good, so good, but not

590
00:40:55.000 --> 00:40:58.760
but not, I don't know.
He was part of that team they went

591
00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:01.519
to Santa Clara with in seventeen and
one, and he had some history.

592
00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:06.199
But if you just took out the
history, he was exactly. But I

593
00:41:06.280 --> 00:41:09.880
think I think the history the thing
that the Kentucky thing sort of shadowed over

594
00:41:09.960 --> 00:41:15.000
shit not it just affected what people
thought of him. Yeah, but he

595
00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:20.599
was fantastic good. Yeah, I
think I think if you I think I've

596
00:41:20.599 --> 00:41:23.079
heard him before, if you've asked
Greg Hansen, you know he would say

597
00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:25.960
Chris Mills is one of the one
of the best players. You know,

598
00:41:27.159 --> 00:41:30.480
I agree to come here. The
reason I asked this is and he was

599
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:32.559
a flashy either. He was just
he was. He was on the smooth

600
00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:36.400
guy, very right, good word, smooth guy, good work. In

601
00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:40.519
fact, the mat Mewalk texted me
before the show, he's doing the game

602
00:41:40.559 --> 00:41:44.800
this weekend and he's gonna get some
people. He said, who are the

603
00:41:44.840 --> 00:41:50.320
best three top players all time?
You go, Matt, wait, who

604
00:41:50.360 --> 00:41:52.159
are the top three players ever?
Are? He's been checking with people.

605
00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:58.119
Well, Sean Elliott, right,
obvious talent wise or just that's what I

606
00:41:58.159 --> 00:42:00.639
asked him. What's what's the cherry? Is that somebody who was great for

607
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:07.719
Arizona for X amount of time or
just the best player DeAndre Ayton? Okay,

608
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:12.360
okay, no, but go ahead, that's okay, and physically talented

609
00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:15.239
player, but for your Arizona,
for Arizona's time, his time at Arizona,

610
00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:17.960
for Matt's time and areas, No, no Arizona's time. You go

611
00:42:19.159 --> 00:42:22.840
there, Okay, you can,
Sean Elliott your god. Well see now

612
00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:24.960
you gave me a hint. You're
probably gonna say, Christian, there's no

613
00:42:25.079 --> 00:42:29.159
there's no, there's no no yours. I'm just k yeah, I I

614
00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:32.960
you know, if you think DeAndre
is the guy, well he's so incredibly

615
00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:37.599
talented, right. You know people
talk about how great Derek Williams was.

616
00:42:38.039 --> 00:42:42.639
Dere was one hundred times better than
for one year. Yeah, that's right.

617
00:42:42.679 --> 00:42:45.280
That's why I have a hard time
putting him. You know, in

618
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:49.880
there, Mike Bibby, Okay,
okay, let me give you some line.

619
00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:54.800
Se Sean is the fact on number
one whatever, Damon number two,

620
00:42:55.239 --> 00:42:59.679
and Bibby number three, yeah,
and and you and you know you can

621
00:42:59.800 --> 00:43:01.800
and you could make an argument for
Khalid Reeves. But we talked about that

622
00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:07.639
because he had a fantastic career,
but he was so so unassuming good that

623
00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:10.960
Yeah, and he didn't say too
words. His good was so easy,

624
00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:15.199
yeah right, his good, his
good was just came so easy that it

625
00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:19.840
looked like it was so effortless you
thought you didn't realize how good he was.

626
00:43:19.920 --> 00:43:22.480
Where did Jason Terry fall into this? Because he was fantastic in his

627
00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:27.079
senior year. Yeah to me,
Jason Terry, Well, he was key

628
00:43:27.159 --> 00:43:30.760
to the ninety seven championship, he
was, Yeah, but he was Player

629
00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:35.559
of the Year ninety nine, but
by default because they that team didn't have

630
00:43:35.960 --> 00:43:37.239
a ton of talent. No player, they're in college basket, I know,

631
00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:39.599
but that team didn't have a ton
of talent. He had to score

632
00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:44.119
thirty a game in order for them
to be to compete. Sure, so

633
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:47.679
you know, would you say Richard
Jefferson or Jason Terry? I take Jason

634
00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:52.800
Terry. Okay, Okay, So
now was rich Was Richard Jefferson a more

635
00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:57.480
physically gifted player? Yes, the
same as DeAndre eight all right, Deondre

636
00:43:57.599 --> 00:44:00.360
and among those guys as physically gifted
as any but if you want to give

637
00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:04.480
me. You know, I like
I like your I like Damon, you

638
00:44:04.559 --> 00:44:07.239
know, because Damon was here four
years, four years, you know,

639
00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:10.239
and and he very he very,
he was great. He ran that team,

640
00:44:10.599 --> 00:44:14.079
you know, Mike baby obviously only
two years, but damn it.

641
00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:16.880
Without him, they don't even come
close to they might even get to the

642
00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:20.920
tournament without him, Okay, and
and and Sean Elly. Okay, so

643
00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:25.360
I'll throw a couple more guys,
uh, Gilbert, but see again,

644
00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:30.079
a guy who I feel like just
had such a short stay and he's good,

645
00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:35.239
was for a very short time,
but he shocked the hell You're right,

646
00:44:35.480 --> 00:44:37.719
he shocked the hell out of me
in the NBA. Okay, okay,

647
00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:40.039
And then I'll give you another one
who who Luke would have said,

648
00:44:40.159 --> 00:44:44.079
had he said four years, would
have been the best player ever. Uh

649
00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:51.480
oh god? And and he was
good. He was good. He was

650
00:44:51.480 --> 00:44:53.800
a pain. He was a pain
in the people don't know that, but

651
00:44:53.920 --> 00:44:59.880
he was. That's what I was. I want. I wanted to rescind

652
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:04.159
my DeAndre for Damon Stodham, yeah, okay, because I didn't think of

653
00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:07.840
him for the one year. It
was just yeah, yeah, if you're

654
00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:12.320
gonna ask me to because what I
was trying to think of is just as

655
00:45:12.400 --> 00:45:15.800
a player, you know, I
mean that guy. What we saw with

656
00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:17.079
that guy was like you don't see
a lot of them, No, no,

657
00:45:17.159 --> 00:45:21.199
no, but they when when you're
talking about when you throw everything in

658
00:45:21.320 --> 00:45:27.480
there, great player, Uh for
a good amount of time, did all

659
00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:30.760
the things, didn't have a chink
in the armor like DeAndre. Like some

660
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:32.480
days he showed up, some days
didn't. Right, Yeah, give me

661
00:45:32.559 --> 00:45:37.079
Damon Stodamayer over over DeAndre. But
I like you, I like your Colid

662
00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:39.440
because we mentioned if he had that
movie. I just loved him. He

663
00:45:39.519 --> 00:45:45.400
was so smooth, he was smooth. Loved him in fact that Luke Luke

664
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:47.320
was a better basketball player than a
lot of them, except that he was

665
00:45:47.400 --> 00:45:52.519
in physically gift right, he could
jump about his high as a kingman phone,

666
00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:55.159
right. But you wanted him on
the team because he did so much

667
00:45:55.440 --> 00:46:04.400
right. But yeah, you know, uh yeah, Damon was just yeah,

668
00:46:04.400 --> 00:46:07.920
I mean you know, but and
he so underestimated him because he was

669
00:46:07.960 --> 00:46:09.719
so little, right, and you
didn't realize all the things that he was

670
00:46:09.840 --> 00:46:15.000
doing. So so he it's Sean
Damon Bibby. But I'm gonna go in

671
00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:19.400
if you have to draft Sean Bibby
Damon. Oh yeah, I am too,

672
00:46:19.559 --> 00:46:23.119
because Bibby was just so smoothest.
Yeah, and and again with with

673
00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:27.599
him, it seems so effortless as
well. Bibby Yeah, you know,

674
00:46:27.719 --> 00:46:30.960
I mean, you know, he's
three point shooting, right, He's an

675
00:46:30.039 --> 00:46:35.320
underrated three point shooter at Arizona because
he made the right he made clutch ones.

676
00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:37.639
I think of all the ones that
he made in the in the you

677
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:39.239
know, in the final four that
year. We talked about that too,

678
00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:43.599
because if I'm voting, and I
don't know if I remember if I voted

679
00:46:43.639 --> 00:46:46.079
for the Final four, Bibby's the
MVP. He's the m v P.

680
00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:49.840
They gave it to They gave it
to Simon because he scored an all the

681
00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:52.480
points. But who ran that team, Mike bibby By, you know,

682
00:46:53.599 --> 00:46:58.039
yeah, I mean Jason Terry could
have done what what what Miles Simon did,

683
00:46:58.360 --> 00:47:00.000
right, Nobody else could have done
when Baby did on that team,

684
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:05.320
right, So many good players in
that time. Yeah, and obviously that's

685
00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:07.679
why they were who they were.
Yeah, And in two thousand and one,

686
00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:12.559
to me, that's still the better
team of any of them. I

687
00:47:12.679 --> 00:47:15.679
still don't agree with you you have
eighty eight. Yeah, because you because

688
00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:19.800
you covered your baby. Yeah.
Yeah, they're my boy, they're my

689
00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:23.280
voice. That's an ugly baby,
but it's my at least, no,

690
00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:28.960
it's expression. That's baby. It's
my baby. Baby. Yeah. Yeah,

691
00:47:29.599 --> 00:47:31.400
this baby is ugly, but it's
not there number two of my book.

692
00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:37.639
And yeah and yeah, because you
know why and I understand because they

693
00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:42.920
were good at all five spots,
which the two thousand and one team,

694
00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:45.159
yea, all five spots were you
know, top of the line players.

695
00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:50.719
Yeah, right, Arizona. You
know, Tom Tolbert had his time in

696
00:47:50.760 --> 00:47:53.320
the NBA, but he wasn't really
a great college player, and he wasn't

697
00:47:53.360 --> 00:48:00.360
a great college center. He was
undersized, he was slow. But it

698
00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:04.440
fit with what they did, right, you know, you go player for

699
00:48:04.559 --> 00:48:07.440
player, you know, two thousand
and five to two thousand and one to

700
00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:13.840
nineteen eighty eight, and you know
nineteen eight, two thousand and one is

701
00:48:13.880 --> 00:48:15.239
going to have it over them on
a few spots, right, you know.

702
00:48:16.199 --> 00:48:20.320
I mean Steve Steve Kerr was a
great shooter, very slow guard,

703
00:48:20.440 --> 00:48:23.280
but he ran that. He ran
ran the point really well. Craig McMillan,

704
00:48:23.599 --> 00:48:29.360
you know, and a tall you
know, shooting guard. But he

705
00:48:29.679 --> 00:48:30.840
wasn't a shooting guard. He was
He was just a guy who went out

706
00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:35.480
to play great defense. He could
make some three pointers. But you know,

707
00:48:35.880 --> 00:48:37.920
are you gonna take Craig McMillan,
A, You're gonna take Gilbert Arenas

708
00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:44.079
or Michael Dickerson, you know,
Michael Dickerson Gilbert Arenas, right? Are

709
00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:47.280
you gonna Now you're gonna take Seawan
Elliott over Richard Jefferson, right, but

710
00:48:47.400 --> 00:48:52.400
then you're gonna take you know,
gonna take Anthony Cook over over Woods over

711
00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:57.039
Lauren Woods or or yeah, yeah, same kind of player. Then Tom

712
00:48:57.119 --> 00:49:02.079
Tolbert against Michael Wraik. I'm taking
Michael right right right? You know to

713
00:49:02.199 --> 00:49:06.280
be as two thousand and one,
eighty eight and then ninety seven, come

714
00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:08.320
on? Who would ever thought that
group? And they only got better ninety

715
00:49:08.320 --> 00:49:15.079
eight and then they didn't get That
group had two really good starters, Simon

716
00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:21.039
and baby Well Dickerson pretty Dickerson,
yeah, because he's floating. He came

717
00:49:21.079 --> 00:49:22.400
and went, he came and went. And then you had Bennet Davidson,

718
00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:25.039
who you wouldn't trust him with a
with a five foot or right, but

719
00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:29.119
could jump out of the gym and
get you a tough rebound, and and

720
00:49:29.480 --> 00:49:32.920
and and poor old uh Aj Bramlett, who I had to apologize to him

721
00:49:32.960 --> 00:49:37.320
for the way I talked about him
when he was here. You know,

722
00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:42.639
you know that that team wasn't didn't
have the load of talent that those other

723
00:49:42.679 --> 00:49:45.360
two teams. That's it. That's
why Alis and all you guys are gonna

724
00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:50.159
say in in April, third,
April fourth, c Steve. I trusted

725
00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:53.360
him all along. I trusted them. I just didn't want to tell you.

726
00:49:53.559 --> 00:49:59.960
I already said it on the record. I don't. This is beauty

727
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:04.880
about radio. No one remember.
But who do you trust in college basketball?

728
00:50:04.920 --> 00:50:07.599
Right now? Nobody? Right?
You trust you? I don't.

729
00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:09.480
But I haven't seen them enough to
know that. Yeah, well I saw

730
00:50:09.559 --> 00:50:14.159
him last year. And if they're
a year better, that's all I need.

731
00:50:14.320 --> 00:50:16.880
That's all I need to know.
And you obviously aren't nobody trust for

732
00:50:17.000 --> 00:50:22.840
due No right, you you trust
Houston more than you trust for right then

733
00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:28.760
after that, everybody's got five five
losses or more, and you know anything

734
00:50:28.760 --> 00:50:30.360
can happen. Did you watch the
Kansas came last night? No? I

735
00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:34.159
watched bits and paces of it.
I didn't know what the score was.

736
00:50:34.440 --> 00:50:37.559
Until I think I was watching the
women's game and the score came maybe score

737
00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:39.639
came across. I'm like, wait
a minute. So I watched bits of

738
00:50:40.199 --> 00:50:44.920
in the first half and they're getting
as kicked, and I'm thinking Arizona fans

739
00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:49.679
are gonna go ballistic next year when
they go on the road and they face

740
00:50:49.800 --> 00:50:53.320
these teams that are physical and they
get off and they get beat by by

741
00:50:53.360 --> 00:51:00.679
a Texas Tech or an Iowa Staler
that I was staking, or Oklahoma Oklahoma,

742
00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:02.079
No, they won't get No,
Oklahoma's not the league, Olaoma State,

743
00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:06.880
Olahoma State. Yeah, No,
they're gonna have a tough They're gonna

744
00:51:06.920 --> 00:51:09.119
have a tough time with those losses. Really, it's gonna be fantastic.

745
00:51:09.719 --> 00:51:13.320
It's gonna be fun when they come
here every game. I don't know if

746
00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:15.559
it's gonna be fantastic from mice from
from the fans side, Okay, because

747
00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:20.159
you're just gonna hear people bitch,
bitch, bitch, bitch bitch about you

748
00:51:20.239 --> 00:51:22.239
know, oh, she's stayed in
the PAC twelve. I can already hear

749
00:51:22.280 --> 00:51:25.599
that. You can already hear that
one. Let's go independent. How many

750
00:51:25.639 --> 00:51:29.960
times you're gonna hear over under but
this is gonna get us tougher for the

751
00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:32.159
tournament. Well, yeah, because
and that's the thing. You know,

752
00:51:32.239 --> 00:51:36.320
you're gonna feel by the time you
get to the end of a big twelve

753
00:51:36.440 --> 00:51:40.239
season, you're prepared, you know
what's coming. Whereas how many how many

754
00:51:40.280 --> 00:51:44.440
times did we hear the pack twelve
season did not prepare them for the n

755
00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:46.239
C. You're hearing it now every
year. You can hear it. We've

756
00:51:46.280 --> 00:51:50.599
heard it every year all the way
back to when Pete Williams was playing.

757
00:51:51.079 --> 00:51:52.920
Like, I liked what you said
about them making it to the lad eight.

758
00:51:53.800 --> 00:51:58.119
I think that's good. Yeah,
that's where your that's your mondo so

759
00:51:58.280 --> 00:52:00.760
long. Yeah, I would like
that. It would be fun. I

760
00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:02.920
mean, it'd be in La that's
almost where they got to get to.

761
00:52:04.360 --> 00:52:06.199
Yeah, I think so. I
think it really is. The thing is

762
00:52:06.239 --> 00:52:07.639
becoming sort of you got to get
to there, and I know fans will

763
00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:10.280
be disappointed if they get there and
don't, you know, don't get the

764
00:52:10.320 --> 00:52:14.559
last step to the final four?
Did you drive to We have no time,

765
00:52:14.599 --> 00:52:16.800
but did you drive to when they
played in two thousand and three to

766
00:52:17.239 --> 00:52:21.559
naheih? Did you? And no? Three? No? But you went,

767
00:52:21.639 --> 00:52:23.000
didn't you know I went to ninety
eight. I thought you went in

768
00:52:23.119 --> 00:52:28.320
and to watch him in Anaheim and
they lost to Kansas. You no,

769
00:52:28.440 --> 00:52:30.840
no, we were watching here.
How was that road back? No,

770
00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:35.360
we don't watch the road back from
the ninety eight loss was awful. That

771
00:52:35.599 --> 00:52:37.039
was awful. Okay. Plus I
had my kid and he was five,

772
00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:39.599
and he knew what they all happened
to you. He was so mad.

773
00:52:42.400 --> 00:52:45.760
He was so mad he my brother. All Right, thanks for being here,

774
00:52:45.760 --> 00:52:49.440
everybody. We'll be back tomorrow with
some more good stuff. So be

775
00:52:49.519 --> 00:52:53.840
sure. All Valentine's Day we forgot
Steve's not giving flowers to anybody. All

776
00:52:53.920 --> 00:52:54.800
Right, we'll see you tomorrow