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Again the night cap in the best
place to start is at the beginning,

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and with that we welcome in one
of our favorite all time guests on this

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program. He's an incredible, incredible
guest. He is well, I'll let

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him tell you in a moment.
He's a forensic psychologist based out of Austin,

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Texas, was one of the trailblazers
in ketamine treatments in this country,

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which of course have been in the
headlines and maybe misinterpreted those headlines as to

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the actual the efficacy and the safety
of said ketamine. And he is my

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friend. He's a he's a father, he's a hunter. He's still you're

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still married to your wife. Yeah, he's a husband. And he loves

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dogs, which means he is like
one of the best people on the planet.

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Doctor John Huber, how are you? I am amazing? Thank you

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very much for asking Gary Jeff Walker
first and foremost, before we get to

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the elephant in the room story over
the last week regarding ketamine, I have

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Christmas brain. I've got foggy Christmas
brain. Is that unusual for people this

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time of year? As we wind
down the days of the year and get

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closer and closer to the exact celebration
of said holiday, Christmas. And for

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those of us who celebrate and participate, and even people who don't understand or

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don't celebrate Christmas as I know it
as a Christian are still involved in the

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holiday hubbub and presence and family gatherings
and all of that. How common is

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Christmas brain? It's actually very common. What we find is that just about

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anything that creates stress in our lives
causes issues with memory recall and things like

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that. Now, there are a
few people who, to a certain extent

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can take that stress and use it
in a beneficial way, and we call

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that ustress. Uh and and ustress
is actually what allow people like like athletes,

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you know, they prime themselves.
You think of a track, start

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getting at the starting blox, you
know, that level of stress, and

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it's building up to cause a trigger
reaction for them to fire off and function

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at their best. That is actually
what we consider a positive type of stress,

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most of us though. However,
you know, we started this whole

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thing with thanks or Halloween in October, writing the Thanksgiving and now we're right

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into to Christmas time and we're just
kind of beaten that that dead horse too

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long and what happens is it just
it becomes kind of a chronic issue,

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and so having issues with memory and
forgetting different things that that you know,

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you know are a priority for you. Uh and and then the minute you

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realize you forgot that, agree,
it's a whole nother stress issue, and

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it just becomes a domino effect and
it just builds and builds the builds.

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I don't know that it's actually negative
stress or you stress. In my case,

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it's just one of those things where
I just want everything else to be

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done so I can concentrate on Christmas
and other things we have to do.

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I mean, I'm serious. Maybe
I'm just lazy, maybe I'm just burnt,

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But it's not by the actual prospect
of Christmas. I'm not really concerned

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with all the Christmas shopping's done.
We do have to travel next weekend to

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see my parents in Middle Tennessee,
but that's not a really stressful thing either,

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not generally to me. What I'm
thinking about, basically is putting my

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feet up and not doing anything for
about forty eight to seventy two hours.

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Is that part of this or not? Well, what happened is these little

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bitty things individually are nothing, and
so you don't oftentimes associate them as being

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something that's stressful. That can kind
of cause that. But eventually what happens

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is, again, it's a snowball
effect, and it doesn't any one thing

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again is not a big deal.
It's when you start adding these things.

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God now, now being able to
stop and physically not involve yourself in your

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daily grind, that's a whole another
issue that a lot of us aren't very

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good at. We're so used to
just going all the time, and if

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we stop and you know, essentially
remove ourselves from what's going on in our

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existence, now, all of a
sudden we start thinking of things like,

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oh man, what's going on with
me? Why am I not working?

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What? We start creating a whole
nother uh level of stress that that we're

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not used to. I don't know, Maybe maybe I should just cash it

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in for a week, but I
don't. I have to do these Well.

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I didn't mean cash in all the
way. I didn't mean go all

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in and yeah, talk to me. I know a place you can go

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visit and leave the casino on a
gurney. I wasn't talking about that.

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I just meant I don't know,
just for the rest of the year,

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but I have things yet to do
so and including this show, and we're

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just getting started with that. So
you and I almost at the very inception,

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and you'd already been working with this
drug for stress and chronic pain and

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anxiety and all of the things that
we and you certainly know that ketamine can

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be useful for and be very helpful
to people. And then we heard the

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final cause of death of the the
you know, the actor Matthew Perry from

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Friends at a very young age,
and he'd had a lifetime of addiction that

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he was battling and that was very
well known. I mean, he was

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out in the open with it and
honest about it, especially the last few

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years. But the cause of death
finally released. It was what they say

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over now, not overdosing or what
was it with ketamine? What was the

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it was it was a cute reaction
to ketamine side effects or something like that.

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It was really bizarre when in fact, the other drug that he was

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on printous and v U p r
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E is a drug that is a
narcotic and it is highly physically addicted and

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it is very similar in a lot
of ways to to uh, it was

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a heroine and the other drugs that
are used to treat heroin, and it's

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designed specifically for that. It's a
drug that is only given one day at

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a time to stop breathing and lowers
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what I think is really interesting.
Now, forget the fact that I've done

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Kennyming for as a practitioner for going
on better part of ten years and used

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it with my patients and physicians,
and forget all that as a university professor

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that I taught for over about twenty
one years. The thing that I caught

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right away is the guy said that
the report said that Kennyming had a three

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to five hour half life, when
actually the research shows it's a seven minute

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to eleven minute half life for the
majority of our population. So immediately,

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immediately we know this guy doesn't have
all of his facts straight. So what

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else did he not get right?
And that's what I look at and what

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I would teach my gratitudents. You
start finding errors like that, what else

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did this person not get right?
So I question the veracity of that,

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and I would have to defer again
to my peers who are who are pathologists,

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And you know, if I'm able
to get a copy of the full

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autopsy, I would like to take
that to some of my peers again who

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are pathologists, and see, hey, were there some mistakes made on this

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report? You know what what other
information is incorrect or missing? When I

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know for a fact, as a
practitioner who works with really highly regarded physicians

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using ketamine in my practice, with
these positions to treat individuals who are suffering

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from psychotropic issues, why did this
in staate occur? Knowing that, man,

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the data they reported is correct.
Kennine also does not suppress your respiratory

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system. It does not need you
know that, it does not need intubation

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when that medicine is being used.
It's safe enough that we use it over

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things like propofol in child surgeries and
children and young young infants because we don't

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have to intubate, because we don't
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you know, this doctor is blaming
ketamine and its residual side effects now knowing

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and even stated in his report that
he had his infusion approximately ten days beforehand

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and probably had some oral a ketemine
to supplement that did not even go into

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the seriousness of the printiform. But
I can't even say the word it's it's

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a drug that is oftentimes and I'm
not going to get into the the because

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I don't want to have a loss
of coming after me. Yeah, and

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knowing how addictive that medication is that
the FDA says, do not give it

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three days in a row. Yet
this person was apparently given some to take

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it home on his own. And
it's a one time, every twenty four

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hour medication. It's not a medication
that you you know, like how you've

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broken you take every four to six
hours. Now this you take this once

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every twenty four hours. It's a
powerful narcotic, is what you're saying.

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And it can suppress your respiratory system. But ketamine is Ketamine is not you

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and I have talked about this,
doctor Hubert, Yeah, many, many

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times about the side effects of ketamine, and that ain't one of them.

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Well, honestly, you know,
ketamine can be psychologically addictive, you know,

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when it starts improving your life.
A lot of my patients, you

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know, are like, hey,
you know, what if what if I

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need this later and I go,
well, then you come back to the

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office and we say down and we
talk about it. We don't just re

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right script after script after script.
And that's you know that if they're doing

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that, if his physicians have done
that, then there is some issues that

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need to be addressed with those those
practitioners, and that that's you know,

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the state health department that they're in
need to address that. That's not that's

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above my case help. But it
definitely is a scary thing. I mean,

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you know, blaming this on a
medication that has been researched Back in

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the nineteen seventies, Russia did amazing
research on psychotropic use Academy, so of

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the Iranians until the whole shop and
you know, that issue in nineteen seventy

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four took place, and then we
started duplicating that research. You know what

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what four or five years ago,
maybe even six years ago at you know,

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Yale and Johns Hopkins and m I
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showing that it is so effective,
you know, for example, you know

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depression, it has about an eighty
efficacy rate and you know there's tons of

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data out there. Unfortunately, because
it's not FDA approved for that, people

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quickly jump on it, as you
know, the stategoat. Yet in you

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know, just a few years ago, we approved s ketemine, which is

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a nasal version of ketamine that spray
can actually fix or deal with improve depression

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symptoms. So we do know that
it's good enough that the FDA has actually

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approved a version of it for psychotropia. So I mean, do you think

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Joe, doctor Hubert, And again
I don't want to entangle you in any

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legal issues here, but maybe the
doctor who announced the cause of death finally

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in Matthew Perry's fatality and listing over
exposure to ketamine as the primary cause.

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Do you think that maybe that doctor
is covering his or some other doctors but

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by prescribes having these other drugs that
were in Matthew Perry's system. Or is

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there a concerted effort among some because
of ketamine's effectiveness, uh to make it,

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make it the scapegoade to outlaw it. I you know, I think

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I think the second is probably more
likely. The third thing that's not being

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mentioned here is that the majority of
medical schools in this country are are controlled,

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that's not outright owned by big pharma. And this is a medication that

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is way out of its patent years. Uh, it is basically in the

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public domain as far as that's concerned. No, no one pharmacy you know,

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owns the rights to it, and
it's making lots of money out of

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it. So what's happening is that, you know, they want to sell

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their new you know, new fangled
medications where they make lots of money.

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And my friends, my peers who've
recently come through medical school, my past

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students who've gone through medical school,
you know, I've got long conversations with

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many of them talking about you know, ketymine. What what I know and

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what the research shows on ketamine is
not what they were taught in medical school

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about ketemine. So there's there's lots
of contradictions. And again, it needs

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to be a higher power than me. But I just want people to to

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think about the potential behind all of
this, the fact that it is very

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effective and is growing in popularity because
it is helping people deal with their psychotropic

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issues much more effectively than most normal
psychotropic drugs. And I know, you

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know, my patients come to me, they pride everything else, and I'm

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still having you know, eighty to
ninety percent effectiveness rates where nothing else worked

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for them before. Yeah, they
did the studies. They did the studies

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in the VA with ketymine and PTSD
and they had similar results doctor, like

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you know, in an eighty percent
of effectivity in relieving the symptoms of post

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traumatic stress disorder because of ketemine.
But once and for all, ketamine in

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and of itself does not and would
not suppress respiratory function the way propofol would,

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or the way these other drugs that
Matthew Perry was on or fentanyl does,

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I e. George Floyd, I
mean, ketamine does not do that.

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It's not one of the side effects
of the use of ketamine. Correct.

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Correct, And in fact, you
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way back to Michael Jackson, you
know his doctor had given him propofol to

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help him sleep because nothing else was
working. And you know, now a

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lot of my emergency room doctors tell
me that the standard of care is not

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propofol but what they call keta probe. It's a it's a combination of ketamine

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and propofol because you don't have to
have a higher rates of propofol for it

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to work and be effective. And
again, ketymine helps control that respiratory issue

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going in there. So I think
I think we have a lot of questions

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that need to be answered from from
this autosity report, you know, and

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once the full report becomes available to
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Uh, it would be really nice
to sit down with with with a group

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of professionals who are truly experts,
you know, like like we said before.

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You know, I've done the research, and I do the psychology side

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of things, and you know,
CEO of consider Dot Clinic and worked with

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hundreds of physicians nationwide, communicated with
doctors around the world on the use of

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ketymine for psychotropic use, and you
know, none of us have ever experienced

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anything like this. Now, I
will say, when you start mixing Christians

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and maybe one doctor doesn't know the
other doctors prescribing different things. And my

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my concern is that you know the
medications that you know, especially when when

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the medication that ukronophone and whatever,
yeah, that we're talking about, that

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medication is only prescribed a day at
a time. Maybe he got some of

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this medication not so legally right,
And well I'm just docularly so sadly our

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time is up, but I just
want to wish you and yours a very

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merry Christmas and you are once again
amazing. This is the nightcap on seven

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hundred WLW News Traffic and Weather News
Radio seven hundred w l W Cincinnati.

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Big traffic problems on I seventy five
in northern Kentucky. This is the nine

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thirty report. I'm Matt Reeese breaking
now a deadly crash on seventy five North

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near Richwood tonight. It's been jamming
up traffic since about seven o'clock this evening,

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right after the heart of rush hour. Couple of vehicles involved, we

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understand, but no other details have
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seventy five is shut down in the
Richwood area, and the backup is all

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the way to Walton on seventy five
and sizable backup on northbound seventy one,

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and that backup is all the way
to Verona Mudlick Road, that is that

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exit. So unfortunately, traffic has
been sitting for a couple of hours and

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may well be sitting for a much
longer time now as we wait for that

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accident to be cleared on northbound seventy
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road across Ohio, tonight State Department
of Transportation treating the roads after snow and

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much colder temperatures today, featuring snow
squalls here in the Sins area, some

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blinding snow at times, and of
course that can make the road slick.

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Drivers should be extra alert tonight.
Still have some of those snow squalls out

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there that can quickly change visibility and
cope the roadways and create some slick spots,

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especially all those bridges and overpasses with
the cold air underneath, they tend

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to freeze first, and that's really
where drivers need to be extra attentive tonight.

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That's Matt Bruning with the Ohio Department
of Transportation parts of northeast Ohio,

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the Cleveland area under a winter storm
morning or a winter weather advisory here in

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the Tri State not seeing anything but
a few more flurries tonight, and that's

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probably going to be the case through
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now and no other big traffic problems
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North Pound seventy five in Richwood.
Now the latest forecast from the Train Heating

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and Cooling Weather Center on news Radio
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weather for tonight. We're going to
a gradual clearing. A few snow showers

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early, but will be clear by
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The problem is is the cold.
It's gonna feel like the teens are single

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digits our Tuesday, then sunshine and
we continue cold. A high of just

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thirty five fair at night and we're
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Weather station, I'm nine First Warning
Chief Meteorologist Steve Rawley, News Radio seven

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hundred WL double temperature twenty eight degrees
in Cincinnati. Got a few snow showers

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in the eastern suburbs, otherwise pretty
much clear on radar. I've been following

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a shooting in Covington tonight. Happened
around sixth and bake Well. Covington police

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just announcing that a man was shot
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there is any danger to the public, and there's no indication yet from police

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whether they have a suspect in custody
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of the Cincinnati Police Union. He
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the head of the Cincinnati Fraternal Order
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Proble County sheriff's department is dead after
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in West Alexandria. Earlier today,
He's deputy Joshua Hamilton, was killed when

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his cruiser struck another vehicle head on. Driver of that vehicle, thirty six

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year old Michael Gayheart of wes Elkton, was also killed in that collision.

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Two weeks from today, it'll be
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new laws will be taking event.
The Social Media Parental Notification Act goes into

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effect January fifteenth. This did get
a bit of attention while under consideration by

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lawmakers. It requires companies to get
parental permission for those under sixteen who want

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to use social media. A similar
law in Arkansas was blocked by a federal

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judge not long after Ohio passed its
version. Utah has one as well,

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but that doesn't start until the spring. Also, Ohio's minimum wage goes up

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January first, thirty five cents more
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per hour for tipped employees. In
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on changes and clarifications to the marijuana
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it's deeply it is the nightcap on
this Monday evening, December eighteenth, twenty

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twenty three, yet exactly one week
until Christmas, and there are still people

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who are desperately caught in gulags in
places like Washington, d c. On

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federal charges for their participation in what
some have called an insurrection, the worst

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thing since the Civil War. And
they throw out all of these you know,

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expletives, you know, at these
people and all these absolutes that these

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were people trying to take down the
government and all of the rest of the

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things. And here we are a
week before Christmas, and we're almost gosh,

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we're almost three years away from January
sixth, twenty twenty one. To

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talk to us about these poor people. As we approach Christmas still locked in

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this legal hell is January sixth,
attorney, Patriot Freedom Project board member and

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a beloved previous guest back with us, Ed Martin. How you doing,

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Ed, I'm great here, Jeff. Thank you for having me on.

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Thanks for a chance on down the
stretch. It's not always the you know,

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sometimes this time here people want to
talk about easier subject. This is

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in some ways this is not a
very hopeful and a positive subject. The

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prisoners, as you mentioned. On
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goodness of the Lord and there's a
lot coming, so we're we're more hopeful.

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But thank you for the chance to
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well, as I mentioned, Patriot
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are unaware, what does the Patreon
freedom Patriot Freedom Project do, Ed,

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Yeah, we thank you again,
Patriot Freedom Project and you go. Patriot

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Freedom Project dot com organizations started by
one of the Day six family members when

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she and her family were caught up
in this, Cynthia Hughes, and over

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the last and a half years we've
raised money. We have helped a lot

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of lawyers for the j six defendants
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if you have money and family money
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on lawyers. But a lot of
the folks, especially the ones that are

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stuck in jail, are ones that
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that Cynthia Hughes early on had the
idea to do was transition a little bit

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our focus help the families. You
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jail, Gary, Jeff, you
know this is I'm going to sound a

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little bit like maybe a bleeding heart, but their work. Since if you

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had money, you could get your
way out, getting employer and fight your

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way out. A lot of the
folks that are stuck in jail are working

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folks, you know, and their
families are are are missing Christmas if folks

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like the Patriot Freedom Project dot Com
don't step up and provide and gift cards

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and sometimes buy meals. Although we
also do things like one of the kids

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on the Jay six have beendant of
prisoner. One of those things needed a

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bad infection, and so we do
that. Patriot Freedom Product a nonprofit.

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It's focused on helping the families and
these defendants. And there's you know,

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look, there's been over a thousand
arrests, but the Department of Justice and

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the prosecutors announce they're going to arrest
one thousand more. They're particularly rushing to

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arrest them by the election next year. They want to make it part of

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the election meritive. But I care
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We'll talk about it, but most
care about every couple of days we get

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a phone call from a new family
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with uncertainty in the future. So
we have to keep doing the right things

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for we the people, and I
think we're doing that at the Patriot Freedom

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Project. What is section fifteen to
twelve D two And most of these January

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sixth defendants, the ones that are
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serious charges, are charged first with
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well, look, this is it's
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just agreed last week to take this
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fifteen twelve that's how I referred to
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and misused again with citizens. But
you know, very we started the program,

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you mentioned how they have tried.
The media and the left and even

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some on the Republicans side have tried
to call January sixth and insurrection all this

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stuff. One of the ways they
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Fifteen twelve is the fallon and it's
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in jail. Many many of the
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a misdemeanor. Vandalism a misdemeanor,
maybe another miss and then this Telly and

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when you and then the court said, oh my gosh, these are dangerous.

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Perhaps sellings will have to hold them. It was used as a weapon

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against the systems in a way that
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the way, Trump discharged with it. But back to fifteen twelve. It

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was designed after Infron twenty years ago. It was designed to be about evidence

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and whether the integrity of evidence was
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meant to criminalize lobbying or even advocating
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Capitol. There was no way this
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people are like, wait, why
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look at it closely, you realize
fifteen twelve has been used to sort of

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broaden the prosecutor's power to put the
hammer down on people. And so the

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Supreme Court took this up and they're
going to and there hopefully in the next

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two months handle it. And probably
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hang on this fifteen twelve provision,
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decided, and we have a lot
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look at it and say these people
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and they and they did something nasty
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the one thing I keep telling people
in these interviews is that I care to

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get it reversed and using the law
and the fact that the judges in DC

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didn't stop it, and if the
prosecutors contt it isn't outraged. So there's

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a lot of attention finally on this, and we're optimistic. It sounds a

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lot to me ed that the people
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Section fifteen twelve are actually violating Section
fifteen twelve by manipulating the evidence. Yeah,

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yeah, yeah, you're you're not
far off. But let me tell

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you, you know, and Gary
Jeff, you know, I you know,

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we do talk for a living.
People say, well, you guys,

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you know, come up with things
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as I say this, this is
not a conspiracy. The guy who

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came up with this, this broadening
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a guy named Andrew Reisman, who
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And I'm the Moull investigation Archie Tamueller
used fifteen twelve. Use fifteen twelve

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against Trump because it's so broad.
It basically says, obstruction of an official

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proceeding means anything that you think is
an official proceeding. And then anything that

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I think is obstruction, we'll call
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year felony. Well, Andrew Weisman
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are doing this to the citizens.
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kind of a by way. He
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is government government dominating with the people. Is happening far too much. Yeah,

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I agree with you, and you
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you, I don't understand why they
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of official proceedings, because that's exactly
what he did when he knowingly pulled that

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fire alarm to prevent a vote on
the hill. Ed Martin, thank you

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very much. If people want to
find out more about the Patriot Freedom Project,

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where would they go? Yeah?
Yeah, Patriot Freedom Project dot com.

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And there's a special button for our
Christmas drive. We love that people

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support us and it has done a
year. Prayer is powerful, So keeping

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prisoners, especially their family and their
kids in your prayers this time, and

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thank you as always, carry Jeff
for the chance. It's all you bet.

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Ed Martin with us tonight in the
nightcap, next we'll switch gears.

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The wild Man returns. Meanwhile,
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a house, Hello anyone here,
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to Eddie and Rocket. Those guys
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amazing news and lots of lucks.
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about toilet paper, toilet papers.
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Edie and Rocky give your day a
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on seven WLW, It's the wild
Man Dennis wild Man Walker joining us again

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on a Monday night on seven hundred
WLW wild Man. The Bengals are still

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in it. If we could only, if we could only have gotten the

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Bills to lose last night, But
they kind of look like they're a team

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of destiny. Do you think that
the Bengals may become a team of destiny

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down the stretch here? After all
of the doubts and after all of the

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hand ringing, and after all of
the injuries, do you think they really

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have a shot to just win out
and be there? What would you look

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the next three games? They definitely
have a shot to win out. And

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the way they won that game against
Minnesota, I mean, I'm sure a

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lot of people had left the building. Here. Here's here's the deal here.

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I was in the car whole time
listened to the game because I had

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a game at Indian Hill I had
to announce. So when I got in

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the car, they were down seventeen
seventeen to three, and I heard got

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one touchdown as I was driving home. And then they can get read of

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the score. The other touchdown the
time again, I couldn't leave the car.

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I figured, mother off the car, Gary, I would jae them.

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So I stayed in the car the
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seven hundred WW and sure enough they
come back and you know, beat the

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Vikings and overtime. Maybe that crazy
catch and touchdown by t Higgins and then

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that that passed the Todler boyd when
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of him and it gets some ball
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he runs forty something yards and sets
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mean that they could be definitely a
team of detatement. The football gods right

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now are liking the Bengals. Well, Pittsburgh is seemingly cannot stop the run.

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The Pittsburgh Steelers cannot stop the run
and really have not proved that they

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can run the ball effectively. And
we're playing against the weir the are playing

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against the Steelers on Saturday and in
Pittsburgh and any other time of the year.

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The Pittsburgh game is always tough.
I mean, let's face it,

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Bengals, Steelers, anything within the
division is always tough. It's kind of

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like zader Uc you never know,
You just never know. Well, here's

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the thing what I want to find
out about this game against the Steelers coming

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up Saturday. I just have a
really and feelings aren't facts, but I

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have a really strong feeling that the
Bengals are going to go into Pittsburgh and

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they're going to take care of business. And then you know, after that,

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my Kansas City Chiefs, who looked
anything nothing like a championship a Super

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Bowl championship team again this past weekend. The Bengals playing the Chiefs after that,

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and the Chiefs are not the Chiefs
that we knew from last year,

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seasons before, and they can go
into Kansas City and win that game,

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and then they face off against the
Browns, and that that's the game that

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really concerns me. I mean,
you gotta win, you gotta win each

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one of them. But the Browns
are so strong on defense. I mean,

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my god, well what do you
what are your thoughts? Okay,

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Kate Browning, he didn't really come
out and to say it, but he's

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gonna be looking for payback come Saturday
afternoon because when he played against that Steelers

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being thrown in there he didn't play
well, even admitted that after the game

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on Saturday. So I don't browning
them to be really fired up to pay

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back the Steelers. The Steelers overall
have just stunk it up. And they

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do have a decent running game,
but for quarterbacks they both stink. I

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don't know they're gonna use for Bussy
or Mason or somebody out of the stands.

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The Bengals run attack has been great
as of late. I don't look,

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I don't see the Bengals losing this
game. I mean, they're gonna

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so fired up to pay those Steelers
back. And then they, like you

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said, they live on to Kansas
City, who have set the world on

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the fire after the Browns. The
Browns might be in the situation and Gary

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Jeff and they come here, they've
already clinched the birth and the playoffs,

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and they may be resting with a
bunch of guys and the matter whether they

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win, win or lose. Let's
keep the focus here. Let's beat the

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Steelers. Let's beat the Steelers on
Saturday. We'll worry about the city and

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the Browns from you know, down
down the road. Yeah, yeah,

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you're right. It's one game at
a time because they don't play five at

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a time, but it's one game
at a time. I love Jake Browning's

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demeanor in press conferences, uh you
know, in postgame interviews. He just

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seems so unaffected by it all,
you know, And and he has that

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00:35:49.559 --> 00:35:59.559
same kind of reaction that Burrow does
to situations where other quarterbacks have and Mike

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00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:04.000
Pan and even with people in his
face, he doesn't seem to really be

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affected by it. He just plays
the game and he has that kind of

448
00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:14.280
Joe cool kind of demeanor, don't
you agree? Absolutely? And I think

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a lot of it has to be
it has to do with being around Joe

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Burrow and learning from what Joe has
done so far. But Joe in his

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ear, you know, telling you
know, look for this, look for

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that, you know, just you
know, take it, you take it

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as it comes to you. The
Bengals are gonna win this game one condifted.

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Stop the Steelers running attack. And
I've got a decent running attack with

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Najee Harris, but that's all they've
got, That's all they have. And

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then bron right now is on fire. I mean, this is this is

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a great this is the way this
is working out here. Gary, Jeb,

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this could be this would be a
movie. The Bengal's gonna end up

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gonna win the whole thing. But
I don't want to go that far right

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now. I told you I'm start
the ben still had a chance. They

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were still alive, and they're very
much alive for a chance they make the

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playoffs. I thought when when went
down, that was it. I really

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did, and I said so,
And I am so so embarrassed for jumping

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the gun. So we're not going
to jump the gun the other way.

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I agree, all right, wild
Man Walker, always a pleasure, my

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00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:17.440
friend. And I guess Merry Christmas. We'll talk to you sometime after the

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into the new year, because uh, yes, Merry Christmas to you.

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And let's just uh, let's just
kick those Steelers butts on Saturday. And

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if you're looking for a good deal, I'm sure you carry a bunch of

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copies in your car. Look for
a wild Man listening to the Bengals game

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inside of his car. He'll probably
have copies of book The Wild So you

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kidding always with me, right,
So if you see wild Man in his

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car listening to a Bengals game,
knock on the window and buy a book

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for God, Yes or all I
taking that mouth? All right? Take

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care, brother wild Man Walker with
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News and much more Ahead News,
Traffic, and weather. News Radio seven

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hundred WL Cincinnati. A Hollywood actor
loses his gig after a jury conviction.

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This is the ten o'clock report.
I'm Matt Reeves breaking now. A split

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verdict in the Jonathan Major's assault and
harassment trial involving his ex girlfriend Grace Jabbari,

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Hollywood actor convicted of one count of
assault in one count of harassment,

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but acquitted of other accounts. But
the verdict too much for his employer,

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who bailed out on Major's Major's character, Gang the Conqueror, was set to

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be a major figure in the Marvel
cinematic universe going forward. Majors now faces

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up to a year in prison when
he's sentenced in February. He's unlikely to

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serve that, but he has learned
of a career consequence of the conviction.

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Our parent company, Disney says Marvel
will no longer be going forward with Jonathan

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Major. That's ABC's Aaron Katski.
Now we have the latest traffic and weather

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together. Not much of an improvement
on northbound seventy five in northern Kentucky still

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because of that accident at Richwood,
which appears to be a fatal wreck happened

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about seven o'clock tonight. The road
seventy five north is still closed at Richwood

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and it is backed up to the
seventy five split, and on seventy five

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it's backed up to Walton and seventy
one backed up to Verona Mudlick Road on

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I seventy one. And we have
no idea yet from police how long it's

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going to be before they're able to
reopen seventy five northbound. Could be quite

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a while before that is all cleared
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the Advanced Dentistry Weather Center Advanced Dentistry
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In the forecast tonight, snow showers continue

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through about nine or ten o'clock.
We'll see a low overnight at twenty two,

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but it's going to feel like the
teens are single digits in the morning.

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For tomorrow, mostly sunny but cold, a high at thirty five at

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night, fair skies. It'll low
down to twenty three from your severe weather

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station. I'm nine First Warning Chief
Meteorologist Steve Rawley News Radio seven hundred WLW

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twenty seven degrees right now in Cincinnati. This news brought to you by Mike

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cast S Trucy Chevrolet in Milford.
A shooting in Covington tonight around sixth in

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Bakewell, a man shot in the
foot. Police say they do not believe

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there's any danger to the public.
No word from police on whether there's been

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any arrest either. There's a new
president of the Cincinnati Police Union and he

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is Ken Cober, who is succeeding
Dan Hills as a head of the Fraternal

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Order of Police. Pope Francis getting
huge credit from a gay lesbian organization for

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updating the cat Church's policy on blessings
of the faithful, including same sex couples.

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GLAD, the world's largest lesbian,
gay, bisexual, transgender, and

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queer advocacy organization, is celebrating Pope
Francis and has expanded definition of blessing to

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include same sex couples. A new
church document approves allowing priests to bless same

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sex couples and insists that people seeking
God's love and mercy should not be subject

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to quote an exhaustive moral analysis to
receive it. Glad releasing a statement saying

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the Pope accurately recognizes that LGBTQ people
and our relationships are worthy of the same

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affirmation and support in the church.
Derek Dennis, ABC News, spokesperson for

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the Archdiocese of Cincinnati, says tonight
they anticipate what they say is no further

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00:41:44.239 --> 00:41:50.800
instruction or information on this topic locally, and that the Church's doctrine on marriage

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has not changed. Hunter Biden said
to be arraigned on tax charge and six

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misdemeanor counts, with a maximum pant
penalty of seven years in prison if convicted

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closing Bell on Wall Street. Today, the Dow gained a point thirty seven

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to three oh six, and the
S and P five hundred was up twenty

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one points four thousand and seven forty. Nasdaq rose ninety one points to fourteen

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thousand, nine hundred and four.
It's ten oh five and Cincinnati our next

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news coming up at ten thirty Matt
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report is sponsored by Ohio Labors Build
Ohio Right, Build It Union. Holiday

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weekends or joyous time sometimes too much
fun can make roadways even into another hour

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of the nightcat here on seven hundred
w LW joining us again. I'm so

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glad she could make time. I
mean, everybody is rushing to get everything

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done before the holidays hit, trying
to finish up those last little pieces of

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work before we can actually go and
enjoy family and friends in a celebration of

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Christ's birth. But I'm glad again
conceee her pieces on substack and many other

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00:43:02.960 --> 00:43:10.000
places. She's one of the most
I think influential conservative thinkers and writers out

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00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:15.320
there today. Cheryl Chumley joins us
for a few minutes tonight. Cheryl,

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how are you? I am great. Thank you so much for having me.

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It's such an honor to be with
you. And Merry Christmas. She

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will Merry Christmas to you as well. First and foremost, maybe it's time

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00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:32.559
to redefine what a conservative is,
a true conservative and a true liberal,

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because there are a lot of people
on the left who call themselves or are

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00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:42.000
referred to as liberals, and I
don't consider them to be liberal at all.

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00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:47.719
And there are people who fly under
the moniker of being conservative, and

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00:43:47.800 --> 00:43:52.360
when I look at the things they
do versus the things they say, and

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00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:55.840
how they act, and who they
ally themselves with. I don't think they're

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very conservative classically at all. Do
you agree with me? I do.

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And that's very interesting what you say, because if you have to sum up

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right, what liberals are, certainly
the Democrat Party has grown much more communists.

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00:44:13.400 --> 00:44:20.119
They're barely they're barely old timey conservative
principles. It's much more globalist in

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00:44:20.280 --> 00:44:22.719
vision, which is why we have
so much of China, you know,

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00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:29.559
being allowed to exert its influence both
of the culture and economy in America.

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So it is very distressing to see
that the star division between the Democrat Party

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and Republican Party where liberals and conservativism, that those lines are being blurred,

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00:44:40.599 --> 00:44:46.199
and what we're seeing takes place in
both parties on both political ideologies more and

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00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:51.599
more is much more anti American.
However you look at it, yeah,

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yeah, And I think that's the
best way to describe it, or to

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00:44:54.679 --> 00:45:00.639
define it, is anti American,
anti what the founding fathers had in mind

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for this country, anti what the
Constitution calls for from a federal government.

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And you know, the people like
Ronald Reagan who talked about, you know,

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less government and smaller government and the
people who have done that through the

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years, to a certain extent,
they did actually try to achieve those things.

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And Donald Trump another excellent example with
you know, all the elimination of

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regulations, but yet the government just
kept growing bigger as a result of the

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fact that you know that it's tough
to get in even if you're in the

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belly of the beast. It's tough
to turn that beast around, especially with

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the years of large s and actually
flying in the face and being anti American

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at its core. I think that
the people are confused about what the federal

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government or government in general's role is
supposed to be in our daily lives,

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and it's actually supposed to be very
minimal. But more and more we see

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that that's not the case. And
you make a good point about how tough

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it is to turn the government around. Right once that train has taken off

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by the station, you can't stop
it and turn it back. And for

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instance, look at what happened with
the attacks on our World Rade Center,

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and out of that rapidly came the
Patriot Act. And within that Patriot Act

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came the power of government or deep
state intelligence to surveil American citizens if need

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be, and to go get warrants
for those surveillance in a court called the

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Finds a court which is a secret
of court. And now we have those

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powers grown so far beyond the scope
of what they were intended to be,

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which is just to root out terrorism
and save America from another September eleventh,

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to the point where we don't even
know what's going on in terms of our

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00:47:02.239 --> 00:47:07.519
intel any longer. And then you
look at Congress, right and they have

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the ability right now, or they
did, to reel back the FISA course

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and defund Section seven oh two and
take back some of those powers, and

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they fail to do it. So
when you talk about how difficult it is

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once government seizes a liberty or a
power, it's very difficult to take that

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00:47:28.960 --> 00:47:30.840
power back and put it at the
hands of the people, I would say

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it's impossible. And that's part of
the problem that we're facing. Our government

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has grown so big, you know, we're just fighting to keep it from

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00:47:38.360 --> 00:47:44.159
growing more, never mind waving back
what we've already lost. Cheryl Sumley is

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00:47:44.199 --> 00:47:46.039
our guest tonight on the Night Camp, and Cheryl, I wanted to ask

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you in regards to the chance to
reel back the powers of PISA when we

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00:47:53.800 --> 00:48:06.000
saw the abuses of PHISA during the
Trump Russian collusion hoax. What prevented these

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so called conservative Republicans from voting to
do that, Well, I think they're

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00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:16.440
a hatred of Donald Trump. Right. There's a problem that I've noticed in

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the Republican Party for some years now. Okay, they automatically fall in favor

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00:48:23.880 --> 00:48:30.599
on the side of police, on
national security, on even intelligence. And

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if you look at over the years
where we've had Black Lives Matter and stand

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00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:42.840
down, hands up, stand down, that kind of thing, and you've

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00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:47.320
had defund the police movements, the
Conservatives have said factically stood on the side

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00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:52.360
of police and national security and citizens
safety. Rightly so, but they've gone

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so far that they've failed to address
problems within policing or the problems with national

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00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:04.960
security and so forth, because they
don't want to be that conservative voice that

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00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:09.280
is aligned with such a racial group
as Black Lives Matter or given the police

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or something like that. So part
of problem is that Republicans in office don't

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want to make that step to reel
back any type of provision that seems to

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broad national security for Americans because they're
thinking of their campaigns right to think of

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00:49:27.199 --> 00:49:30.840
their next run for of their seed
and how their opponent might paint their votes

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on reeling back those powers. Then
they'll be painted, they'll be characterized as

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an anti American Democrat outlining type of
Republicans. So I think that's part of

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the problem with speed well, and
you highlight that, and I think that's

610
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absolutely dead on the money, Cheryl. But the other thing that it should

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point out to all of us who
believe that the Constitution is the law of

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00:49:59.000 --> 00:50:00.960
the land, the rule of law
on this country, and should be and

613
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should be strictly adhered to, is
that the Constitution when it was when it

614
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was written and then approved, call
for citizen lawmakers. And we have professional

615
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politicians right and left. And I
don't know that term limits is the way

616
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to solve that problem. But I
mean, if we could just get back

617
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to what the Constitution calls for,
which meant that someone would come out of

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their farm field representing the place where
they lived, and serve for a couple

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of years or four years, and
then they'd go back home to their business.

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The banker, the lawyer, the
cop, any of those people,

621
00:50:42.039 --> 00:50:45.679
even the homemaker would you know,
would say you know, this is my

622
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civic duty to serve. I'm going
to get elected and I'm going to go

623
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and represent, you know, the
bosom of my existence in my community.

624
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And then I'm going to come back
home and continue to live my life.

625
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When there's very few out there that
do that. I mean, how do

626
00:51:04.719 --> 00:51:07.320
we solve that problem? How do
we bring back the citizen lawmaker in this

627
00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:15.559
country? That's really a matter of
morality, right because founding fathers warned us

628
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that our nation could only remain limited
government in scope if the people of the

629
00:51:21.679 --> 00:51:27.719
nation were moral and virtuous. Because
it's not the morals who need big government

630
00:51:27.800 --> 00:51:32.840
to tell them how to act and
to force them to behave in certain ways

631
00:51:32.920 --> 00:51:37.360
that are acceptable and orderly to society. It's the immoral, it's criminal,

632
00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:44.880
the thug and so forth. And
so the problem with a government that doesn't

633
00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:50.960
know its boundaries, its moral boundaries
and what should be rightly it's political boundaries

634
00:51:51.039 --> 00:51:53.199
that it's a part time jump to
serve in office, and more than that,

635
00:51:53.440 --> 00:51:59.480
it's an honor and it's a position
of humble surface, not tyrannical dictate.

636
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But the problem with returning our nation
to that type of government system is

637
00:52:06.199 --> 00:52:08.960
that we have to address the morality
first, because so long as we have

638
00:52:09.159 --> 00:52:14.320
people in this country that are turning
away from God, turning away from church,

639
00:52:14.880 --> 00:52:19.119
mocking biblical principles, denying the facts
of our founding, that we were

640
00:52:19.199 --> 00:52:25.679
founded on a concept of quests for
religious freedom and then ideal of individualism rooted

641
00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:30.360
in rights coming from God and liberties
from us. Until we get back to

642
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:35.079
that, then our political system is
just going to be a reflection of a

643
00:52:35.239 --> 00:52:38.159
culture and society which is all about
me, me, me, grab the

644
00:52:38.280 --> 00:52:43.920
power, grab what I can get
most in first and best, and politicians

645
00:52:44.039 --> 00:52:47.960
in the day and age are just
granted a free lane in getting special entitlements

646
00:52:49.199 --> 00:52:52.639
that the rest of us can't.
You talked about individual liberty, and you

647
00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:58.440
know, versus the group, the
collective, which is communism, It's Marxism,

648
00:52:58.840 --> 00:53:01.679
socialism, whatever you want to call
it. It's evil. Collectivism is

649
00:53:01.800 --> 00:53:06.440
individualism is what this country was based
on and what it's supposed to be all

650
00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:13.880
about individual liberties of each individual person, each individual citizen. When you when

651
00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:19.320
you talk about that though, and
you talk about are rights given to us

652
00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:22.440
by God? Are an alienable rights
given to us by God? And they're

653
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:27.159
supposed to those God given rights are
supposed to be protected by the government,

654
00:53:27.719 --> 00:53:35.960
so you know they're not they're not
infringed upon individual rights. Uh that we're

655
00:53:36.039 --> 00:53:40.360
talking about over group rights, because
group rights are the things that have been

656
00:53:40.440 --> 00:53:46.360
given by the government. You know
that the the special set asides for certain

657
00:53:46.719 --> 00:53:52.280
certain individuals, certain people, special
people, those rights have been given by

658
00:53:52.360 --> 00:53:55.559
the government. And the thing that
people need to understand Cheryl, and I

659
00:53:55.679 --> 00:54:00.199
hope you'll agree with me, is
if the government gives you rights, they

660
00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:04.360
can also take them away. But
if God gave you the rights the government,

661
00:54:04.599 --> 00:54:07.280
no one can take those away and
the government needs to defend and protect

662
00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:15.119
those Well, that's absolutely right,
and that's why we're facing such a problem

663
00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:21.559
right now, because the government has
reached a point where they are given free

664
00:54:21.679 --> 00:54:25.199
reign on deciding who gets the rights
versus who does not get the rights.

665
00:54:25.679 --> 00:54:30.480
And that's why you have so much
lobbying going on at Capitol Hill, because

666
00:54:30.519 --> 00:54:36.039
there's a big scramble to be recognized
for the rights to receive taxpayer dollars versus

667
00:54:36.559 --> 00:54:43.159
the rights to receive special interest measures
and genders and the rest of us in

668
00:54:43.239 --> 00:54:49.039
America, the hard working Americans in
America are basically put at the jeopardy of

669
00:54:49.280 --> 00:54:53.800
politicians and Capitol Hill now to determine
whether we have the right to self determine

670
00:54:53.920 --> 00:54:58.440
whether we have the right to make
a living for ourselves, or we have

671
00:54:58.519 --> 00:55:02.159
a right to worship freely. And
I'm referring back to the coronavirus years because

672
00:55:02.239 --> 00:55:07.199
that's how quickly we lost all those
rights that are supposed to be in this

673
00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:10.719
country. God didn't, but we
came to a point in a very quick

674
00:55:10.840 --> 00:55:15.159
overnight period of time where with the
government telling us whether we could go to

675
00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:19.639
work or not, go to church
and go to school. So this is

676
00:55:19.760 --> 00:55:22.800
the state of peril that America faces. And I'm telling you that the only

677
00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:28.440
way to get back to a time
in America where we have individual rights again,

678
00:55:28.920 --> 00:55:34.280
the only savior for America is God, and that means Americans must turn

679
00:55:34.360 --> 00:55:37.480
back to biblical truths, go to
church, train your children in a proper

680
00:55:37.559 --> 00:55:42.840
way to go. So government naturally
is a little bit fearful of the people.

681
00:55:43.159 --> 00:55:47.280
It doesn't take such you know,
joy and needs in exerting its will

682
00:55:49.480 --> 00:55:53.599
right on. And also the freedom
of speech issue, and you mentioned the

683
00:55:54.320 --> 00:56:00.400
coronavirus years, which you know we
could be write down knee deep in him

684
00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:05.880
again, if the powers it be
so decided that we were just getting a

685
00:56:05.920 --> 00:56:12.400
little too uppity with our liberty again, I think that freedom of speech was

686
00:56:12.480 --> 00:56:19.440
limited to what the government approved narrative
was. That's strictly Soviet style government.

687
00:56:20.039 --> 00:56:22.480
And it happened in America, and
it's still happening to a certain extent.

688
00:56:22.599 --> 00:56:27.320
But there are some rays of light
in substack. Last week week you wrote

689
00:56:27.320 --> 00:56:31.800
about Alex Jones from Info Wars being
reinstated to X by Elon Musk, and

690
00:56:31.880 --> 00:56:36.760
you call it a major victory for
free speech. A lot of people find

691
00:56:36.840 --> 00:56:40.400
Alex Jones reprehensible. They find his
statements and some of the things that he

692
00:56:40.519 --> 00:56:45.440
said and done repugnant, and I
can understand that. But there's a big

693
00:56:45.519 --> 00:56:52.280
difference between the things that Alex Jones
may say that you find offensive and then

694
00:56:52.840 --> 00:56:59.239
defending speech on a campus like Harvard
that calls for the mass extinction of a

695
00:56:59.280 --> 00:57:04.840
whole group of people. That's not
freedom of speech, is it. You

696
00:57:04.920 --> 00:57:08.199
know, there's a big difference between
Alex Jones and what's taking place on taxpayer

697
00:57:08.360 --> 00:57:14.599
funded college campuses under the watchful eyes
of the administrators, who at the same

698
00:57:14.719 --> 00:57:21.199
time prohibit conservatives say from going there
to speak. So on college campuses,

699
00:57:21.320 --> 00:57:24.000
let's just deal that first, because
that has a few more issues to it.

700
00:57:24.400 --> 00:57:30.639
On college campuses, you have in
place a system that's largely in many

701
00:57:30.760 --> 00:57:35.239
cases tax paid. Right, So
now we're talking about the entire nation having

702
00:57:35.280 --> 00:57:38.480
an interest in what goes rolled on
that college campus and in other instances where

703
00:57:38.480 --> 00:57:45.039
it's private. But the idea that
a college administrator or a group of students

704
00:57:45.079 --> 00:57:50.639
on college can decide and determine who's
allowed to speak there versus who needs to

705
00:57:50.719 --> 00:57:55.440
be shouted down and driven off campus
practically, bricks and sticks is abhorrent,

706
00:57:55.719 --> 00:58:00.000
very anti American, and very anti
college because college campus are supposed to be

707
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:06.400
the place where you go to learn, and not just learn book learning,

708
00:58:06.480 --> 00:58:10.880
but also how to deal with dissenting
opinions in regular life. And the both

709
00:58:10.920 --> 00:58:20.719
Palestinian protesters are calling for the eradication
of entire nation of people and their countries.

710
00:58:20.840 --> 00:58:23.320
But that's a little bit different than
having, say Charlie Kirk go and

711
00:58:23.440 --> 00:58:30.000
talk about conservative principles. And now
when you're talking about Alex Jones has hump

712
00:58:30.119 --> 00:58:31.920
him really quickly if you don't like
what he has to say. So look,

713
00:58:32.320 --> 00:58:35.840
you know what it's too bad,
don't listen to him. That's called

714
00:58:35.920 --> 00:58:40.119
freedom that in a free society,
speech is protected for the offensive speech.

715
00:58:40.599 --> 00:58:45.239
We don't need protections from nice speech
that says nothing. That's how politicians speak,

716
00:58:45.360 --> 00:58:49.400
right, they talk on both sides
of their mouths and say nothing.

717
00:58:49.760 --> 00:58:52.320
It's a skill, it's a political
skill. But you don't need protection for

718
00:58:52.440 --> 00:58:58.119
that because it makes people feel good. It's Alex Jones's type of speech that

719
00:58:58.320 --> 00:59:02.480
raises what's called conspiracy theories, which
isn't you know in some people's worldviews,

720
00:59:02.840 --> 00:59:07.440
that's a questioning attitude, not a
conspiracy theory. See, it's that type

721
00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:14.199
of speech that the founders in visions
needful of protection. And that's what they

722
00:59:14.239 --> 00:59:17.960
were talking about when they brought us
the First Amendment real quick in our last

723
00:59:19.000 --> 00:59:22.400
minute. Cheryl Chimley is our guest, your prediction, get out your crystal

724
00:59:22.440 --> 00:59:25.199
ball if you have one, Cheryl, If you don't, just think real

725
00:59:25.280 --> 00:59:30.400
hard about it, and you know
what's happened in the past going forward.

726
00:59:30.960 --> 00:59:35.719
Do you think that they will be
successful and they being the deep state in

727
00:59:35.880 --> 00:59:40.320
putting Donald Trump in jail before the
election. No, no, I don't,

728
00:59:40.480 --> 00:59:46.719
but that is what they based their
election successes on Jack Smith is on

729
00:59:46.840 --> 00:59:53.440
a fast track schedule to get Donald
Trump convicted in March or before the elections.

730
00:59:53.480 --> 00:59:59.039
So that's how democratsy campaigned because I
have nothing else at this point exactly.

731
00:59:59.159 --> 01:00:01.639
Cheryl Chimley, thank you so much. Merry Christmas to you. God's

732
01:00:01.679 --> 01:00:07.719
blessings upon you and your family,
and thanks for joining us again. Thank

733
01:00:07.840 --> 01:00:13.400
you, bye bye, Cheryl Chumley
for an extended discussion on this nightcap a

734
01:00:13.639 --> 01:00:17.000
plenty more left. We'll talk to
Greg wright Stone right after the news break.

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It gives some truth to give some
light to the subject of climate change and

745
01:00:59.599 --> 01:01:04.199
CEO two and all the rest.
This is not the information you're going to

746
01:01:04.280 --> 01:01:08.480
get from a UN climate panel,
to say the Lady Store or John Carrier

747
01:01:08.599 --> 01:01:15.360
al Gore. This is actual data
and it does not support a lot of

748
01:01:15.480 --> 01:01:22.760
the crazy claims that have been made
and presented as scientific fact by the green

749
01:01:22.039 --> 01:01:30.880
side. Joining us once again is
the guy who a geologist and also head

750
01:01:30.880 --> 01:01:35.960
of the CO two coalition in Washington, d C. Author of The Inconvenient

751
01:01:36.079 --> 01:01:44.239
Truth and now a very Convenient Warming. Please welcome back Gregory Ryan wright Stone,

752
01:01:44.280 --> 01:01:49.960
who is breathing and expelling CO two
just like I am, Greg wright

753
01:01:50.039 --> 01:01:54.079
Stone. That's how are you,
sir? Oh good? And that you

754
01:01:54.159 --> 01:01:59.440
know you're every time you exhale,
you're breathing out about forty thousand parts per

755
01:01:59.519 --> 01:02:06.760
milli Yet and of course the current
ambient CO two is about four hundred parts

756
01:02:06.800 --> 01:02:13.320
per million, and so that forty
thousand were breathing out is actually adding huge

757
01:02:13.400 --> 01:02:20.559
benefits by helping to increase the CO
two levels and then increasing corrupt growth.

758
01:02:21.199 --> 01:02:25.280
But of course, but of course
the other side, Greg is always saying

759
01:02:25.760 --> 01:02:30.119
that we've got to we've got to
limit CO two, we've got to cap

760
01:02:30.239 --> 01:02:35.639
that stuff. There are places in
Europe where the cows have big bags on

761
01:02:35.719 --> 01:02:39.679
their back ends to trap the CO
two or trap the methane so they can

762
01:02:39.800 --> 01:02:45.519
sell it to somebody else. But
they think they're doing the environment good by

763
01:02:45.599 --> 01:02:49.719
doing that, and maybe not so
much. And of course the same people

764
01:02:49.840 --> 01:02:55.159
came out and admitted that our breathing
is actually contributing greatly to the Earth's carbon

765
01:02:55.239 --> 01:03:00.440
footprint. But as you say,
and as a fact, back you up,

766
01:03:00.440 --> 01:03:04.559
as the science backed you up.
The real science more CO two is

767
01:03:04.599 --> 01:03:09.800
a darn good thing. Yeah,
And that's really the just the overall theme

768
01:03:09.880 --> 01:03:15.079
of my new book. It's called
a Very Convenient Warming, How modest warming

769
01:03:15.159 --> 01:03:21.079
and more CEO two are benefiting humanity
And boy, just about by every emetric

770
01:03:21.239 --> 01:03:27.360
we look at, Earth's ecosystems are
thriving and prospering, and humanity is benefiting

771
01:03:27.440 --> 01:03:32.760
from that. And it's it's just
this huge, huge positive message. It's

772
01:03:32.840 --> 01:03:37.159
just not a message, it's relaying
the facts of what's really out there.

773
01:03:37.679 --> 01:03:43.039
And it's I call it the greatest
untold story of the twenty first century,

774
01:03:43.119 --> 01:03:47.159
that of a thriving Earth and a
thriving humanity. And the last time we

775
01:03:47.320 --> 01:03:52.719
talked, We've talked a lot over
the last several years now. I was

776
01:03:52.760 --> 01:03:58.079
always pushing this mantra of the there
isn't a climate crisis. That's true,

777
01:03:58.159 --> 01:04:01.719
there isn't. But we've gone now
well past that. From there is no

778
01:04:01.880 --> 01:04:08.079
climate crisis to oil boy, Earth, Your Earth is thriving and prospering,

779
01:04:08.360 --> 01:04:12.599
and it's because of warming and more
CO two. The greatest, most obvious

780
01:04:12.719 --> 01:04:17.119
aspect of that is the greening of
the earth, in the increase in the

781
01:04:17.719 --> 01:04:23.960
in agricultural productivity. Boy, we're
just breaking records year after year. In

782
01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:30.920
the book, as you've seen,
I capture the eight greatest crops grown on

783
01:04:30.039 --> 01:04:34.639
Earth in terms of timeage produced,
and all eight of those are just it.

784
01:04:34.719 --> 01:04:40.039
This goes back to nineteen sixty,
just breaking records year after year after

785
01:04:40.199 --> 01:04:45.199
year after year. And it has
to the three main things driving crop production.

786
01:04:45.880 --> 01:04:53.079
It's more higher temperatures, warming temperatures, more CO two driving CO two

787
01:04:53.199 --> 01:05:00.280
fertilization and more photosynthesis. And three
increased use of nitrogen fertilizers. And these

788
01:05:00.360 --> 01:05:06.960
nitrogen. Fertilizers are created from fossil
fuels mainly natural gas. So all of

789
01:05:08.039 --> 01:05:15.119
these things working in tandem to increase
food production that's outstripping the food production is

790
01:05:15.199 --> 01:05:21.320
outstripping population growth in the world.
And again that's something that should be celebrated

791
01:05:21.880 --> 01:05:26.440
and it should be the front page
story on the New York Times that you

792
01:05:26.599 --> 01:05:30.039
know it never will be well,
No, Greg and you make a good

793
01:05:30.239 --> 01:05:39.079
point about food distribution or food production
outstripping the actual population. When we hear

794
01:05:39.159 --> 01:05:45.679
about famine and people starving, it
is always because of humans, but not

795
01:05:45.840 --> 01:05:51.719
because of human's carbon output. It's
because of radical governments that want to try

796
01:05:51.800 --> 01:05:57.360
and starve people so they can reduce
population and maintain greater control. I believe

797
01:05:57.400 --> 01:06:03.480
that anyway. But it's not because
of the car somebody's driving with fossil fuels

798
01:06:03.599 --> 01:06:11.559
or the fact that they're using a
gas powered stove or their lawn equipment.

799
01:06:12.480 --> 01:06:15.880
The people are starving in this day
and age when there's really no need for

800
01:06:15.960 --> 01:06:21.920
it because of dictators and governments hoarding
food and letting food spoil on docks and

801
01:06:21.960 --> 01:06:28.119
stuff for their own political purposes.
It's not because we're not producing enough to

802
01:06:28.280 --> 01:06:31.519
feed the planet. Like you said, we've got more than enough food for

803
01:06:31.719 --> 01:06:38.320
probably another two or three billion people
if that's what happened, right, and

804
01:06:38.480 --> 01:06:44.079
think about everything that the climate alarmis
is that just tab traveled back from Dubai

805
01:06:44.239 --> 01:06:47.199
and COP twenty eight. What are
they pushing? What do they want us

806
01:06:47.239 --> 01:06:51.199
to do? They want us to
emit less CO two and reduce it,

807
01:06:51.599 --> 01:06:58.559
which again would hurt crop production.
There talks about actually doing keem trails and

808
01:06:58.719 --> 01:07:03.920
blocking the sun by putting things in
the aerosols in the atmosphere to block the

809
01:07:04.039 --> 01:07:09.639
sunlight. What would that do?
It would it would greatly diminish crop production.

810
01:07:10.239 --> 01:07:14.079
Uh, so you're diminishing it by
blocking the sun and decreasing CO two.

811
01:07:14.880 --> 01:07:19.360
And Fourth, they wanted to eliminate
nitrogen fertilizer, and we saw how

812
01:07:19.440 --> 01:07:25.480
that went in Sri Lanka two and
a half years ago when that country country's

813
01:07:25.559 --> 01:07:30.800
president actually banned nitrogen fertilizer. He
wanted to go green, he wanted to

814
01:07:30.880 --> 01:07:36.400
go organic. What they did and
their entire agriculture based economic system collapsed inside

815
01:07:36.400 --> 01:07:43.239
of nine months. And because there
is the food productivity just plummeted without nitrogen

816
01:07:43.320 --> 01:07:46.920
fertilizer. Well, so that's what
it's really an anti humane Yeah, what

817
01:07:47.559 --> 01:07:54.840
the ultimate goal is to reduce population
in general, it's not to it's not

818
01:07:55.000 --> 01:07:59.599
to ensure the future for your children
and your grandchildren. It's to make sure

819
01:07:59.639 --> 01:08:03.880
theyre is no future for many of
us. So that you know, Bill

820
01:08:03.960 --> 01:08:09.119
Gates has been on record saying and
he's always one of these people saying that

821
01:08:09.199 --> 01:08:14.480
it's scientific consensus, which of course
there is no thing that the Earth is

822
01:08:14.519 --> 01:08:17.640
warming, and it's because of man
made contributions. It's because of fossil fuels

823
01:08:17.680 --> 01:08:25.600
and CO two. But he stated
publicly years ago that he thinks that the

824
01:08:25.680 --> 01:08:29.159
earth population should be about five hundred
million. We need to get rid of

825
01:08:29.239 --> 01:08:32.199
some people. It is anti human, and most folks don't see that.

826
01:08:33.880 --> 01:08:39.000
Well, I think you can predict
one. I'm going to say you go

827
01:08:39.279 --> 01:08:43.640
first, out right, you know, you think there's too much, too

828
01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:47.760
populations, too high, set an
example, go ahead, you know,

829
01:08:48.000 --> 01:08:50.880
if it's that important to you,
But no, thanks, we don't.

830
01:08:51.039 --> 01:08:58.439
We were able to feed a growing
population and it's not growing exponentially. It's

831
01:08:58.479 --> 01:09:01.960
expected to flatten here in the next
decade or two. And if it doesn't

832
01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:09.000
that we're still increasing our crop productivity
without the other thing is one of the

833
01:09:09.279 --> 01:09:14.720
in my new book, I show
corrupt crop productivity, population growth, and

834
01:09:15.439 --> 01:09:19.279
the number of acres planted has been
basically flat. So we're not growing more

835
01:09:19.359 --> 01:09:26.439
crops because we're adding farmland that's ringing
basically flat. The other thing we see

836
01:09:26.520 --> 01:09:32.079
is they talkt about deforestation, but
no, what I find is reforestation and

837
01:09:32.279 --> 01:09:39.800
forests have greatly expanded worldwide. There
are a few places where there is deforestation

838
01:09:39.960 --> 01:09:44.359
going on. But why is it
being deforested because they're kind of mature forests

839
01:09:44.439 --> 01:09:48.399
down into Carolina is to turn them
into pulp and pellets to be shipped to

840
01:09:48.399 --> 01:09:55.840
the United Kingdom, where it's called
green energy. Being caught cut down in

841
01:09:56.000 --> 01:10:02.279
Indonesia, the Philippines put up mono
culture palm oil plants for biofuels. UH.

842
01:10:02.800 --> 01:10:09.600
Forests, grasslands across the United States
are being covered over and cut down

843
01:10:09.960 --> 01:10:13.600
to put up solar And I'm not
going to call them farms. They aren't

844
01:10:14.239 --> 01:10:20.039
solar and wind industrial scale facilities.
Using the word farm makes it sound too

845
01:10:20.119 --> 01:10:24.680
benign. These are not. They're
plight on the landscape. Uh, they're

846
01:10:24.720 --> 01:10:32.439
horrible for endangered creatures. The wind
turbines are an aerial quison art the butchers,

847
01:10:32.720 --> 01:10:38.239
balt Eagles, Golden eagles, uh, and even condors in California.

848
01:10:39.720 --> 01:10:45.640
These there there's a growing, growing
effort across the United States to push back

849
01:10:45.720 --> 01:10:51.640
on solar, these solar, industrial
solar facilities, industrial scale wind turbine projects,

850
01:10:53.920 --> 01:10:57.840
and we have to we have to
just say no. And also huge

851
01:10:57.920 --> 01:11:00.760
pushback now on CO two pipeline.
You know what, they're trying to strip,

852
01:11:01.319 --> 01:11:05.439
strip CO two out of the atmosphere
and pipe it, uh and use

853
01:11:05.479 --> 01:11:11.960
it to push put it underground.
I mean, who put the idiots in

854
01:11:12.159 --> 01:11:15.880
charge? I always wonder we did, I guess, uh, but uh,

855
01:11:16.640 --> 01:11:20.000
but yeah, it's it is amazing. The things I wanted to ask

856
01:11:20.039 --> 01:11:25.279
you about. The the bags on
the back of cows that someone was referencing

857
01:11:25.359 --> 01:11:28.880
they saw somewhere. I don't know
if it's in England or but they're trying

858
01:11:28.920 --> 01:11:32.920
to trap that gas that comes out
of the the business end of the cow

859
01:11:33.720 --> 01:11:39.159
and then sell it as fuel,
which I guess is mostly methane. Have

860
01:11:39.319 --> 01:11:42.920
you have you seen that or heard
about that? No, well, I've

861
01:11:42.960 --> 01:11:45.760
heard stories. I didn't think they'd
actually gone to that much, but of

862
01:11:45.880 --> 01:11:49.760
a of a route to do this. No methane is is just a minute.

863
01:11:50.039 --> 01:11:54.920
It is greenhouse gas, but it
contributes very little to the warming of

864
01:11:55.000 --> 01:12:00.279
the planet. Uh CO two contributes
very little. But methane is is a

865
01:12:00.399 --> 01:12:04.680
fraction of that too. So now
we shouldn't we shouldn't. Most of the

866
01:12:04.720 --> 01:12:09.680
methane this produce is naturally occurring.
So we think about all the millions of

867
01:12:09.720 --> 01:12:15.760
buffalo that Romo states. They were
emitting methane, and there were a lot

868
01:12:15.800 --> 01:12:18.159
more buffalo than there are cattle right
now, Yeah, I mean so,

869
01:12:18.560 --> 01:12:24.319
yeah, cal flatulence is not contributing
to the demise of the planet Earth.

870
01:12:25.199 --> 01:12:29.880
A very Convenient Warming is the name
of a new book by CO two head

871
01:12:30.239 --> 01:12:32.399
Gregory Wrightstone. He is our guest
for the next few minutes, and greg

872
01:12:33.479 --> 01:12:39.640
let's talk about specifically this time of
year, Christmas, across the United States

873
01:12:40.199 --> 01:12:45.760
and the basics. What's the average
high temperature for Christmas, say, over

874
01:12:45.840 --> 01:12:54.439
the last almost close to two hundred
years. I can tell you what that

875
01:12:54.760 --> 01:13:00.119
is. It's forty two point five
degrees fahrenheit. And that's from all the

876
01:13:00.159 --> 01:13:04.680
eleven hundred plus stations across the lower
forty eight of the United States. What's

877
01:13:04.760 --> 01:13:12.399
interesting, I went as a little
preemptive strike because I knew that Christmas.

878
01:13:12.439 --> 01:13:17.159
They usually come out with some It'll
be in the API or the Washington Post

879
01:13:17.279 --> 01:13:23.479
or some other rag where they'll talk
about how this is Christmas is warmer than

880
01:13:24.199 --> 01:13:29.439
decades, the warmest Christmas, the
warmest Christmas. It's always the warmest Christmas

881
01:13:29.760 --> 01:13:32.800
on record or ever, right,
And the records go back to in the

882
01:13:32.920 --> 01:13:35.960
United States, go back to what
the eighteen fifties or something like that.

883
01:13:36.079 --> 01:13:42.800
Yeah, so you know, or
scientists say, well, no, I

884
01:13:42.920 --> 01:13:47.600
looked at the actual data and it's
interesting. There are wild swings and temperatures

885
01:13:47.640 --> 01:13:56.720
on Christmas Day ranging from fifty five
degrees fahrenheit down to under twenty degrees fahrenheit

886
01:13:57.119 --> 01:14:00.720
on Christmas Day, but there's no
discernible trend either up or down. And

887
01:14:00.800 --> 01:14:05.960
that's going back to eighteen ninety five. All the while CO two carbon dioxide

888
01:14:06.079 --> 01:14:14.720
by man has been increasing and increasing
the atmosphere, so no Christmas Day temperatures

889
01:14:14.800 --> 01:14:17.880
have not been increasing. So someone
tells you that, you go to the

890
01:14:18.000 --> 01:14:25.800
CO two Twitter site through Twitter feed
or CO two Coalition Facebook page to learn

891
01:14:26.000 --> 01:14:30.680
to see that actual chart that I've
got there. What was the climate like

892
01:14:31.560 --> 01:14:36.560
some two thousand years ago when my
Lord and Savior Jesus Christ was born in

893
01:14:36.640 --> 01:14:41.399
that part of the world. Was
what was the earth's climate like generally and

894
01:14:42.439 --> 01:14:48.560
specifically there in Bethlehem for example.
Well, he lived in a fortunate time.

895
01:14:49.560 --> 01:14:54.600
It was the time of It was
called the Roman Warm period the time

896
01:14:54.720 --> 01:15:00.920
Christ and it was much warmer than
temperatures today. We know that because,

897
01:15:00.359 --> 01:15:05.239
for example, the Romans were growing
citrus in the north of England near Hadrian's

898
01:15:05.319 --> 01:15:10.960
Wall. Well, you can't do
that today. We have other historical records

899
01:15:11.000 --> 01:15:15.159
of all of the groves being much
far of the north during that time and

900
01:15:15.359 --> 01:15:19.159
during the time of Christ too.
The Roman army, of course, it

901
01:15:19.279 --> 01:15:24.399
marched on its belly and they got
most of their green from North Africa.

902
01:15:24.960 --> 01:15:31.479
You don't think of Tunisian and Egypt
being a great producer of of of wheat,

903
01:15:32.159 --> 01:15:35.359
but it was at the time of
Christ, so it was much warmer.

904
01:15:35.880 --> 01:15:40.800
Uh. Life was good unless you
were an early quick Christian and you

905
01:15:40.880 --> 01:15:47.000
were being persecuted or or nailed to
across. But for the most part,

906
01:15:47.359 --> 01:15:51.880
food was bountiful, and uh,
you know, it was a time to

907
01:15:53.000 --> 01:15:57.600
celebrate and it was. It was
really when it started getting colder during the

908
01:15:57.720 --> 01:16:01.800
decline of the Roman Empire. We
know that there were Germanic tribes coming down

909
01:16:01.880 --> 01:16:08.880
out of the north, a lot
of the great civilizations, but primarily Roman

910
01:16:08.920 --> 01:16:13.079
impart was the big one that declined
as it started getting cold, and we

911
01:16:13.199 --> 01:16:16.039
see that again. I captured an
entire section in my book. I devote

912
01:16:16.079 --> 01:16:24.159
to the Correlation's new book of Very
Convenient Warming, to the correlation between human

913
01:16:24.279 --> 01:16:30.680
history and temperature history, and find
that warmer times were much much more beneficial

914
01:16:31.279 --> 01:16:36.119
to humanity than we're cold. The
Colbert periods were horrific, and I might

915
01:16:36.319 --> 01:16:42.199
mention too. This book is not
available on Amazon. It is only currently

916
01:16:42.279 --> 01:16:49.720
available at the website, and the
website is Convenientwarming dot com. That's Convenientwarming

917
01:16:49.840 --> 01:16:54.920
dot com, or just google Convenient
Warming and you'll get right to it.

918
01:16:56.119 --> 01:17:00.920
It's been huge if you liked my
first book and can be actually gonna love

919
01:17:01.000 --> 01:17:08.239
this new one A Very Convenient Warming, Oh absolutely. And it's chock full

920
01:17:08.279 --> 01:17:12.159
of data, that's the thing.
And the data is I got been fully

921
01:17:12.239 --> 01:17:15.439
researched. Go ahead, good yet, I got a phone call. This

922
01:17:15.439 --> 01:17:18.840
smart really lifted me up from a
huge He's bought probably one hundred and fifty

923
01:17:19.000 --> 01:17:21.960
of my first book. He just
hands about the people. He's this huge,

924
01:17:23.079 --> 01:17:26.439
huge supporter. He called me out. He said, Greg, Greg,

925
01:17:26.880 --> 01:17:29.960
you hit a home run. I
just got the book, he said,

926
01:17:30.159 --> 01:17:33.319
Man, he says, he said, I just this book. The

927
01:17:33.399 --> 01:17:38.880
first one is good. This is
much better. So if you like Inconvenient

928
01:17:39.000 --> 01:17:43.399
Facts, and I know a lot
of your listeners were supporters have gotten the

929
01:17:43.520 --> 01:17:46.479
new one, you got to go
get and tell me real quickly about the

930
01:17:46.600 --> 01:17:51.319
things that the CO two Coalition is
doing to help educate children. Just in

931
01:17:51.399 --> 01:17:56.159
the last minute or so, tell
us about what people can find at CO

932
01:17:56.359 --> 01:18:02.279
two Coalition as far as teaching tools, the truth about climate and CO two

933
01:18:03.239 --> 01:18:09.439
where do people go to floor name, Go to CO two Learning Center dot

934
01:18:09.520 --> 01:18:14.119
com. CO two Learning Center dot
com. And we've got our science based

935
01:18:14.680 --> 01:18:19.439
books, videos, and lesson plans
that we're developed by doctor Sharon Camp.

936
01:18:20.880 --> 01:18:26.399
She's an ap retired AP science teacher. She's still an AP reader. She's

937
01:18:26.439 --> 01:18:30.039
a real scientist and she's the one
that created these lesson plans. You won't

938
01:18:30.079 --> 01:18:35.119
find many teachers that actually have a
science degree. Most of them have a

939
01:18:35.239 --> 01:18:41.000
degree in education to not in science. So these are these are really really

940
01:18:41.039 --> 01:18:45.000
good lesson plans. We make them
available as a PDF. Free download on

941
01:18:45.079 --> 01:18:51.600
our website for homeschoolers. We're being
warmly welcomed in the home home school community

942
01:18:51.840 --> 01:18:57.399
so CO two Learning Center dot com. And the book once again is a

943
01:18:57.680 --> 01:19:01.199
very convenient warming. Go to Convenient
Warming dot com if you'd like a copy.

944
01:19:02.119 --> 01:19:08.359
And let's continue to push the truth, Greg, instead of the indoctrination

945
01:19:09.119 --> 01:19:15.039
and the manipulation of facts with bad
data. You bet, Thank you so

946
01:19:15.199 --> 01:19:17.640
much. Yeah, Merry Christmas to
you, Greg Wrightstone with us on the

947
01:19:17.720 --> 01:19:24.680
Nightcap. Much more ahead, including
a special segment of American History on the

948
01:19:24.800 --> 01:19:30.680
radio which directly relates to the radio
here in Cincinnati, coming up on seven

949
01:19:30.760 --> 01:19:35.039
utter WLW. Is there a special
time you like to listen to Scott Sloane?

950
01:19:35.199 --> 01:19:39.279
I listen at work because he's really
cool and my job sucks. Oh,

951
01:19:39.479 --> 01:19:41.840
I like the way you think.
I listened during a really hot,

952
01:19:41.920 --> 01:19:44.960
sudsy shower. Are you being serious? I listened to his podcast when I'm

953
01:19:44.960 --> 01:19:46.439
in church. Are you allowed to
do that? I like to listen when

954
01:19:46.479 --> 01:19:50.880
I'm on the toilet? All right? I listened during our marriage counseling session.

955
01:19:51.000 --> 01:19:55.439
I guess anytime is the right time
for Sloany. That's what we've been

956
01:19:55.479 --> 01:20:00.760
saying Scott's loan Toilmorrow morning at nine
on seven hundred WLW, and check out

957
01:20:00.800 --> 01:20:05.000
his podcast on the free iHeartRadio app
this holiday season. Sweetest Prize is in

958
01:20:05.119 --> 01:20:10.840
your mailbox. Foulpax bringing savings in
your home this December and you could find

959
01:20:10.880 --> 01:20:43.760
one hundred dollars Christmas can into another
hour of the Nightcap. The group is

960
01:20:43.840 --> 01:20:47.640
The Persuaders, the original The Thin
Line Between Love and Hate, and I'm

961
01:20:47.640 --> 01:20:53.960
playing this song as we introduced our
next guest on American History on the radio,

962
01:20:54.600 --> 01:20:57.880
because this is one of the first
songs. As a kid growing up

963
01:20:58.159 --> 01:21:00.479
in the suburbs of Chicago, I
was of these kids that I listened to

964
01:21:00.680 --> 01:21:05.279
WLS and the top forty Pops stations, but I was scanned the dial and

965
01:21:05.359 --> 01:21:11.760
I found the black station, which
I believe was WVOL, and they played

966
01:21:11.960 --> 01:21:16.359
great tunes like this. I wasn't
here on WLS, and so I've always

967
01:21:16.800 --> 01:21:26.239
really appreciated the fact that for African
Americans there was a distinct kind of broadcasting

968
01:21:26.359 --> 01:21:30.880
that was theirs and theirs alone,
and you could call it radio. Jim

969
01:21:30.960 --> 01:21:34.199
Crow, I don't wish to destrive
it that way. I think that different

970
01:21:34.239 --> 01:21:39.079
strokes for different folks, as we
like to say. And this man has

971
01:21:39.199 --> 01:21:45.560
made a fifty plus year career of
being a different stroker on the radio in

972
01:21:45.720 --> 01:21:54.479
Cincinnati. And definitely, if I
was going to include everybody that was essential

973
01:21:55.439 --> 01:22:00.279
to radio listening audiences in this market
over the last fifty years, if I

974
01:22:00.720 --> 01:22:03.359
if I left him out, I
would be doing a great disservice to the

975
01:22:03.439 --> 01:22:10.760
listeners and to history. Lincoln,
where joins us tonight for our special segment

976
01:22:10.800 --> 01:22:14.399
on American history and the radio in
the night Camp, Lincoln. It is

977
01:22:14.520 --> 01:22:18.439
my honor to have you with us. Hey, Gary, Jeff Walker is

978
01:22:18.479 --> 01:22:23.640
great to be with you. And
I was wondering about that song A thin

979
01:22:23.720 --> 01:22:27.319
line between eleven eight. I thought
you were telling me there's a thin line

980
01:22:27.479 --> 01:22:30.239
between love and hate between us.
I didn't know. Well, you can

981
01:22:30.319 --> 01:22:34.359
draw any inferences you want, Lincoln, but no, that was not specifically

982
01:22:34.760 --> 01:22:39.760
directed. It was it was one
of those songs I could have played the

983
01:22:39.920 --> 01:22:43.960
moments love on a two way street. Oh yeah, you remember that.

984
01:22:44.359 --> 01:22:46.239
That was great. I remember that
one, and it's definitely remember that.

985
01:22:46.319 --> 01:22:51.840
You know what the stylistics, the
stylist stylistics even better, La la La

986
01:22:53.079 --> 01:22:56.359
means I love you. That's that's
actually the delphonics, and I don't mean

987
01:22:57.239 --> 01:23:02.840
correct a legend mixed up the delphonic. They all sounded light, Yeah,

988
01:23:02.840 --> 01:23:08.039
they do. So I want to
find out about your path on the radio

989
01:23:08.199 --> 01:23:13.000
here in Cincinnati. And it's more
than five decades, which is just incredible.

990
01:23:13.600 --> 01:23:17.159
You know. I have been fortunate
enough to be at WLW. Now

991
01:23:18.439 --> 01:23:21.479
in February, it'll be twenty seven
years. I've been doing the Saturday morning

992
01:23:21.520 --> 01:23:27.319
show and that is unheard of and
very uncommon in our business, as you

993
01:23:27.479 --> 01:23:32.319
know, but you have been on
the radio consistently in this market for is

994
01:23:32.399 --> 01:23:36.720
it fifty years? As a matter
of fact, I was talking to Randy

995
01:23:36.800 --> 01:23:41.960
Michaels the other day and he was
talking about in nineteen seventy three when he

996
01:23:42.039 --> 01:23:47.399
came into town. He was talking
about how boring Cincinnati radio was until he

997
01:23:47.560 --> 01:23:53.960
found fourteen eighty and I was doing
a live broadcast over at the Alms Ballroom

998
01:23:54.880 --> 01:23:59.239
and the broadcast didn't start to midnight, and man, we were really rocking

999
01:23:59.279 --> 01:24:01.800
it up there, and he got
so excited he came over to the Alms

1000
01:24:01.880 --> 01:24:06.039
Ballroom, but he was afraid to
come in because he didn't know what they

1001
01:24:06.079 --> 01:24:12.039
would do to a white guy at
twelve midnight over at the Arms Hotel there

1002
01:24:12.479 --> 01:24:15.680
called it was called the Arms Ballroom
then it's now the Arms Apartments now right

1003
01:24:15.720 --> 01:24:19.600
there at the corner of Victory Parkway
and McMillan. So this was a midnight

1004
01:24:19.680 --> 01:24:23.760
show you were doing from the ballroom
where you just playing records? Did you

1005
01:24:23.800 --> 01:24:28.039
have live performances? What was going
on? It was a live broadcast.

1006
01:24:28.960 --> 01:24:31.800
I was on the air in the
afternoons then, but they would you know,

1007
01:24:31.840 --> 01:24:38.159
it would be a live broadcast from
midnight until three, and the place

1008
01:24:38.239 --> 01:24:42.159
stayed open. They didn't sell liquor
in there, but you know, people

1009
01:24:42.199 --> 01:24:45.600
would probably go back and forth to
their car, but it was mainly you

1010
01:24:45.720 --> 01:24:49.520
know, people would come. They
would have live bands there and all types

1011
01:24:49.560 --> 01:24:53.880
of things. But we had a
lot of fun. And Randy Michaels that's

1012
01:24:53.960 --> 01:24:57.439
when he first heard me at the
Alms Ballroom. Every time I say he

1013
01:24:57.520 --> 01:25:00.800
talks about he came into town and
heard me on the end and he came

1014
01:25:00.880 --> 01:25:02.760
over there and parked, but he
was afraid to come in. Let me

1015
01:25:02.920 --> 01:25:08.560
ask you this, Lincoln, where
would Brandy Michaels, the young Randy Michaels

1016
01:25:08.640 --> 01:25:11.720
have been in trouble? Had he
come to the arms ballroom. Now you

1017
01:25:11.840 --> 01:25:15.199
know him, he would have been
okay. This was nineteen seventy three,

1018
01:25:15.680 --> 01:25:18.560
and I wasn't during the sixties riots
or anything like that, so he would

1019
01:25:18.560 --> 01:25:23.439
have been okay. I think,
and this is just my own personal opinion,

1020
01:25:24.199 --> 01:25:31.439
I think that there is a lot
less, especially black white racism in

1021
01:25:31.560 --> 01:25:38.960
this country among most people than there
has been maybe ever in this country.

1022
01:25:38.960 --> 01:25:44.479
I think there's a lot less of
it than People are always talking about racism

1023
01:25:44.560 --> 01:25:47.399
and hate, and I just I
don't see it. And I interact with

1024
01:25:47.680 --> 01:25:53.840
people of all skin colors and from
all backgrounds as a bartender. And I'm

1025
01:25:53.920 --> 01:25:59.720
telling you just as a general rule, when people talk about the fauxmen it

1026
01:25:59.800 --> 01:26:02.000
hate, the increase in racism,
I just don't see it. What about

1027
01:26:02.039 --> 01:26:06.800
you. It's still there. It's
just not as uh covert as it you.

1028
01:26:08.239 --> 01:26:13.119
I mean, it was it was
overt then now it's covert. Everybody's

1029
01:26:13.199 --> 01:26:15.159
keeping it under cover. But it's
still there. Trust me, it's still

1030
01:26:15.279 --> 01:26:20.720
there. And it's even I've become
more of an issue since Donald Trump was

1031
01:26:20.840 --> 01:26:24.000
president. I can tell you that. I know you don't want to hear

1032
01:26:24.079 --> 01:26:28.520
that stuff. You can blame that, blame Donald Trump. I did.

1033
01:26:28.760 --> 01:26:31.960
I did in talking to you,
I did want to ask you about that.

1034
01:26:32.119 --> 01:26:35.399
And I think Joe Biden has been
as divisive as Donald Trump ever could

1035
01:26:35.399 --> 01:26:39.359
have been. So I got my
name, all right, So here we

1036
01:26:39.439 --> 01:26:45.800
go. Here we go. Two
people that have since passed that you and

1037
01:26:45.920 --> 01:26:50.960
I both know and both talked to
on the air numerous times. Just some

1038
01:26:51.399 --> 01:26:58.279
some ruminations and remembrances. Oh,
let's start with the guy who was my

1039
01:26:58.479 --> 01:27:00.760
buddy for a while until Trump came
along, and then he decided he didn't

1040
01:27:00.840 --> 01:27:05.399
like me anymore, who sadly has
passed. Sensible Don Lewis the bus driver,

1041
01:27:08.199 --> 01:27:14.199
just your your thoughts, unsensible Don
Well. I mean, he used

1042
01:27:14.279 --> 01:27:17.800
common sense in a lot of things, but he said to things that some

1043
01:27:18.000 --> 01:27:21.880
people just don't like to hear.
And everybody thought he was a Republican.

1044
01:27:21.960 --> 01:27:26.920
He was right wing, and I
don't know who he voted for. He

1045
01:27:27.000 --> 01:27:30.319
probably if he were alive, he
probably wasn't he alive when Trump was president.

1046
01:27:30.399 --> 01:27:34.600
I'm trying to think, yes he
was, and he would be the

1047
01:27:34.640 --> 01:27:39.000
guy who would vote for Donald Trump
and would tell you he voted for Donald

1048
01:27:39.039 --> 01:27:42.119
Trump, and wouldn't make you know, wouldn't be afraid to tell you,

1049
01:27:42.239 --> 01:27:45.319
no, that's that's that is not
true at all. Lincoln and I know

1050
01:27:45.439 --> 01:27:49.319
this personally because Don and I talked
about it, and sadly this was the

1051
01:27:49.479 --> 01:27:55.479
divide between Don and I and we
didn't speak for probably a couple of years

1052
01:27:55.600 --> 01:28:01.000
until his passing. He he absolutely
hated Donald Trump, and it kind of

1053
01:28:01.119 --> 01:28:04.279
it kind of surprised me. I
didn't have a problem with him hating Donald

1054
01:28:04.279 --> 01:28:08.439
Trump or not voting for him.
Yeah, but because he knew I did,

1055
01:28:09.560 --> 01:28:13.840
he became just he turned on me
like I can't even I can't even

1056
01:28:13.880 --> 01:28:18.079
tell you how he turned on you. Donald Trump was because because of my

1057
01:28:18.239 --> 01:28:23.079
support for Donald Trump, my voting
for Donald Trump. He turned on me

1058
01:28:23.279 --> 01:28:28.800
like you wouldn't believe Glenn from Mason. And I'll give you my Glenn from

1059
01:28:28.840 --> 01:28:33.720
Mason point first, and then I'll
let you react to it. Glenn from

1060
01:28:33.800 --> 01:28:40.680
Mason would if I said the sky
was blue when it was obviously blue,

1061
01:28:40.720 --> 01:28:45.119
he would tell me it was green. He would do anything to take the

1062
01:28:45.279 --> 01:28:50.119
other side, just just for the
fun of it. You want to talk

1063
01:28:50.159 --> 01:28:56.720
about somebody who could be very divisive, Glenn from Mason definitely had that ability

1064
01:28:57.760 --> 01:29:00.840
of being just boisterous and no matter
what you said, if you were of

1065
01:29:00.960 --> 01:29:05.520
a certain ilk or a certain ideology, he was he was going to come

1066
01:29:05.560 --> 01:29:10.520
after you with everything he had and
he would make some strong arguments, but

1067
01:29:11.159 --> 01:29:14.560
usually they were straw man arguments.
So, so your thoughts on Glenn for

1068
01:29:14.640 --> 01:29:18.399
Mason and Law was one of my
best callers of all time. He would

1069
01:29:18.439 --> 01:29:25.760
go down as the top one or
two callers that I've ever had. Glenn

1070
01:29:25.800 --> 01:29:29.960
from Mason where you know, he
stuck to his he did his research also.

1071
01:29:30.560 --> 01:29:33.920
He did his research and he could
give you numbers and facts and things

1072
01:29:34.039 --> 01:29:38.640
like nobody else could. So,
I mean, he knew what he was

1073
01:29:38.720 --> 01:29:41.920
talking about. He wasn't just you
know, trying to go against you.

1074
01:29:42.159 --> 01:29:45.319
He had to fax the back back
everything he said. He had to fax

1075
01:29:45.399 --> 01:29:47.239
to back it up. Well,
yeah, I think he had half of

1076
01:29:47.319 --> 01:29:51.680
the facts that supported his clause and
then and then you know, the other

1077
01:29:51.760 --> 01:29:57.800
half he kind of conveniently left out. I wanted to ask you about what

1078
01:29:58.319 --> 01:30:02.840
changes you've seen in Cincinnati radio in
fifty plus years you've been doing it,

1079
01:30:03.239 --> 01:30:10.319
Linco and what had been the most
impactful and just what do you see on

1080
01:30:10.399 --> 01:30:14.720
the landscape of being someone who has
been on the air here for as long

1081
01:30:14.760 --> 01:30:19.319
as you have. Well, the
major changes I've seen is well, i

1082
01:30:19.399 --> 01:30:23.800
mean, you know, the black
stations. We still play black music,

1083
01:30:24.079 --> 01:30:27.439
we still play R and B,
we play you know, the oldies and

1084
01:30:27.560 --> 01:30:30.479
all, you know, stuff like
that. But I've watched the evolution of

1085
01:30:30.800 --> 01:30:36.399
seven hundred WLW back when they used
to play music to talk. Now,

1086
01:30:36.600 --> 01:30:40.520
you know, I've seen that evolution. I've witnessed this, you know,

1087
01:30:41.680 --> 01:30:45.479
every day. You know, when
Randy first started with some kind of thing,

1088
01:30:45.560 --> 01:30:47.960
Alan Gardner, Yeah, they sort
of kicked off this top thing in

1089
01:30:48.079 --> 01:30:53.319
Cincinnati on seven hundred, and this
thing has just grown now. And of

1090
01:30:53.359 --> 01:30:57.800
course you know you're the big ones. You're the fifty thousand watt flamethrower here,

1091
01:30:58.279 --> 01:31:00.760
and hey, what can I say? It has changed that way any

1092
01:31:01.159 --> 01:31:08.119
everything else music is pretty much state
where it's been Q one two, Warm

1093
01:31:08.239 --> 01:31:11.720
ninety eight, GRR, State the
thing, yeah, State the thing.

1094
01:31:11.960 --> 01:31:16.319
Yeah, yeah, well, I
mean other other than the station's formats.

1095
01:31:17.000 --> 01:31:21.079
And you mentioned Randy Michaels, and
you know that's interesting that he said he

1096
01:31:21.239 --> 01:31:25.880
was so excited to hear you on
the radio in Cincinnati in nineteen seventy three

1097
01:31:25.880 --> 01:31:31.319
when he first came here. But
Randy instrumental in changing wl W into the

1098
01:31:31.399 --> 01:31:36.439
big one. I mean, no
one has contributed more to this station's success

1099
01:31:36.520 --> 01:31:41.720
over the last forty years than Randy
Michaels and the people he brought in.

1100
01:31:41.880 --> 01:31:45.600
Eventually, like, Willie, tell
me about your relationship with Bill Cunningham.

1101
01:31:45.439 --> 01:31:49.760
Uh, you know, people think
we're enemies, and he's really a nice

1102
01:31:49.840 --> 01:31:53.439
guy. We talk all the time. Matter of fact, I think I

1103
01:31:53.520 --> 01:31:58.880
was supposed to be on the Stooge
Report sometime this week. But you know,

1104
01:31:59.039 --> 01:32:01.520
I've been knowing him for years.
I was on the radio before him.

1105
01:32:01.600 --> 01:32:04.279
I remember when he first came on
the radio because you know, I

1106
01:32:04.399 --> 01:32:10.720
used to follow any type of talk
segments that they had on radio in Cincinnati.

1107
01:32:10.880 --> 01:32:13.800
So I used to listen to Randy
and Allen all the time. I

1108
01:32:13.880 --> 01:32:16.479
thought they were great. I used
to love listening to them. So I've

1109
01:32:16.520 --> 01:32:21.079
been a talk show junkie since the
beginning. But I got my start playing

1110
01:32:21.239 --> 01:32:27.239
music, you know, like most
most good talk show hosts were former DJs.

1111
01:32:27.640 --> 01:32:33.520
Oh yeah, MC Mike McConnell,
former DJ, Fingers, former DJ.

1112
01:32:33.920 --> 01:32:36.640
So they make the best talk show
hosts. Well, thank you very

1113
01:32:36.720 --> 01:32:40.279
much for the compliment. You didn't
even know you were giving me because I

1114
01:32:40.359 --> 01:32:45.760
started as a DJ in nineteen eighty
and see, and you know didn't even

1115
01:32:45.840 --> 01:32:50.640
touch talk till nineteen ninety seven.
Here, So tell me about that starting

1116
01:32:50.760 --> 01:32:55.000
radio for Lincoln. Where where was
it and what were you doing? How

1117
01:32:55.079 --> 01:33:00.159
old were you? It was on
an aircraft carrier called the USS Midwa.

1118
01:33:00.960 --> 01:33:04.840
I was always interested in radio,
and lo and behold when I was stationed

1119
01:33:04.880 --> 01:33:09.800
on the Midway, they had a
radio and a TV station. How about

1120
01:33:10.720 --> 01:33:15.680
they needed bodies to get on the
radio, and you know, they was

1121
01:33:15.720 --> 01:33:18.439
looking for people to work. AFRTS
was sort of like the network. We

1122
01:33:18.479 --> 01:33:25.319
would use the news from the American
Vietnam Network and we would use their news

1123
01:33:25.399 --> 01:33:29.399
every hour. But I was just
one of the DJs that played R and

1124
01:33:29.560 --> 01:33:33.600
B music on an aircraft carrier of
about four thousand people. And that's really

1125
01:33:33.640 --> 01:33:38.520
where I started. So you were
like Adrian Cronauer and good Morning Vietnam.

1126
01:33:39.239 --> 01:33:41.520
Yes, yes, well, only
you weren't in country. You were on

1127
01:33:41.600 --> 01:33:45.479
an aircraft carrier, on an aircraft
carrier, and I start my show with

1128
01:33:45.840 --> 01:33:49.079
Good Morning Cincinnati. I start my
show like that every day. Oh that's

1129
01:33:49.119 --> 01:33:53.920
great, that's great. So when
you got out of the service, then

1130
01:33:54.000 --> 01:33:58.159
what did you do. There was
a guy on w ci IN by the

1131
01:33:58.239 --> 01:34:01.880
name of Jimmy Wonder. He had
he worked at CION since he was a

1132
01:34:01.960 --> 01:34:08.640
teenager. He was like in the
eleventh grade on the air going to Waldert

1133
01:34:08.680 --> 01:34:11.640
Hills High School. He would have
an evening show at w c I N.

1134
01:34:11.960 --> 01:34:15.720
He had a great voice. He
was a natural for radio. Anyway.

1135
01:34:15.359 --> 01:34:17.960
I had kept in contact with him
while I was in the Marines,

1136
01:34:18.159 --> 01:34:21.479
and he told me he was leaving, going to a radio station up in

1137
01:34:21.640 --> 01:34:27.479
Dayton w DAO. Yep, he
was gonna work for that station, he

1138
01:34:27.560 --> 01:34:30.159
says, So they're being opening here, you better get a tape together and

1139
01:34:30.720 --> 01:34:33.760
get it over here as quick as
you can. So he left in March,

1140
01:34:33.880 --> 01:34:39.880
and I was discharged from the Marine
Corps in March, so the timing

1141
01:34:40.000 --> 01:34:42.479
was perfect. I took my tape
over to a guy by the name of

1142
01:34:42.560 --> 01:34:45.720
Bob Long who was the program director, and Sonny Burns, who was the

1143
01:34:45.800 --> 01:34:50.920
general manager, and I gave him
my audition tape and the rest is history.

1144
01:34:51.560 --> 01:34:56.399
And that's how I met Jim Scott. Because back in those days,

1145
01:34:57.039 --> 01:35:00.600
you had to have your broadcast license
from the ste if you're going to work

1146
01:35:00.720 --> 01:35:04.159
and the engineers were not at the
station. Do you remember those days?

1147
01:35:04.239 --> 01:35:10.359
Oh, I had my third class
FCC license so I could take transmitter readings.

1148
01:35:10.640 --> 01:35:15.680
In fact, the very first radio
station I worked at was my FM

1149
01:35:15.840 --> 01:35:19.720
college station at Volunteer State Community College
in Gallaton, Tennessee. This is in

1150
01:35:19.800 --> 01:35:26.319
nineteen seventy nine, and I not
only had my license, but I had

1151
01:35:26.399 --> 01:35:30.479
to turn on the transmitter because I
was there in the morning, so I

1152
01:35:30.520 --> 01:35:32.720
had to let that, I had
to let the filaments warm up, and

1153
01:35:33.399 --> 01:35:36.000
you know, it was a long
it was a process, man. But

1154
01:35:36.279 --> 01:35:40.720
yeah, with me, I had
to study working after you know, I

1155
01:35:40.880 --> 01:35:45.680
was working afternoons and I was there. You know in the wintertime it gets

1156
01:35:45.800 --> 01:35:49.760
dark. You know, you'd have
to switch the power from daytime signal to

1157
01:35:49.880 --> 01:35:54.600
the night signal. Yep, you
know, we'd go from five thousand in

1158
01:35:54.680 --> 01:35:59.600
a day to five hundred at night. And so the engineer they'd be gone

1159
01:35:59.640 --> 01:36:02.439
by then. So I had to
get that third class license with the broadcast

1160
01:36:02.640 --> 01:36:06.680
endorsement. And that's how I met
Jim Jim Scott. He was worried.

1161
01:36:06.880 --> 01:36:10.000
He was saying, oh man,
we got to take this test. I

1162
01:36:10.039 --> 01:36:12.600
gotta get my life. I said, I have to take the tests also,

1163
01:36:13.039 --> 01:36:15.239
So we talked a little bit and
we both end up passing the tests

1164
01:36:15.439 --> 01:36:17.720
and we said, oh, we
can keep our jobs. Now, tell

1165
01:36:17.800 --> 01:36:23.520
me about James Brown and your experiences
with the Godfather of soul. He was

1166
01:36:23.600 --> 01:36:27.159
the man. He would come by
every time he come to Cincinnati, w

1167
01:36:27.359 --> 01:36:30.680
c i A would be one of
the first places he would stop with his

1168
01:36:30.000 --> 01:36:33.520
newest release in hand. You know, every time he come by there,

1169
01:36:33.680 --> 01:36:38.399
he'd always have a new record that
was coming out and it would be a

1170
01:36:38.479 --> 01:36:42.079
hit. Of course it was James
Brown, and he would always come by

1171
01:36:42.079 --> 01:36:44.680
and get in there. We talked
to him on the air. He was

1172
01:36:44.880 --> 01:36:46.359
I mean, he was a really
nice guy. I love James Brown.

1173
01:36:46.399 --> 01:36:51.680
He called me soul brother number two. Oh you were number two. I

1174
01:36:51.800 --> 01:36:58.399
was number two. Well, listen, I appreciate so much some time here

1175
01:36:58.520 --> 01:37:01.640
to be part of my segment.
I'm Nightcap American History on the radio Lincoln

1176
01:37:01.840 --> 01:37:09.720
Where in the Spotlight this evening and
uh, just remind people where you are

1177
01:37:09.840 --> 01:37:15.159
and when you're on. You can
find me Monday through Friday on twelve thirty

1178
01:37:15.479 --> 01:37:19.039
the Buzz twelve thirty am. Of
course we are on Facebook Live and you

1179
01:37:19.119 --> 01:37:24.520
know the app and the Internet,
you know all these short ladies. And

1180
01:37:24.720 --> 01:37:29.920
then on Sunday afternoons, I'm on
one hundred point three from three to seven.

1181
01:37:30.159 --> 01:37:33.560
I played the Sunday soul classics like
James Brown, Rita, Franklin,

1182
01:37:34.159 --> 01:37:39.239
Das Night Lincoln like that, Lincoln, thank you so much, and I've

1183
01:37:39.279 --> 01:37:50.920
got one more song for you as
we close. Have a great have a

1184
01:37:51.000 --> 01:37:55.199
great rest of the day, and
Merry Christmas. Lincoln. All right,

1185
01:37:55.239 --> 01:37:59.880
what talk for you? Gary?
Yeah, thank you bye. That is

1186
01:38:00.079 --> 01:38:03.880
Lincoln Ware on American History on the
radio tonight, Fun Stuff seven under WLW.

1187
01:38:05.079 --> 01:38:09.199
If you are traveling near Jackson,
Michigan, pull over and pay your

1188
01:38:09.239 --> 01:38:14.079
respects to the grave of mister Chicken, the famous rooster who wore plastic prosthetic

1189
01:38:14.239 --> 01:38:17.560
legs. Wow Audio top that.
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1190
01:38:17.640 --> 01:38:24.800
the seven hundred WLW live stream on
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1191
01:38:24.880 --> 01:38:29.640
Fries is in your mailbox. Foalpax
springing savings in your home this December,

1192
01:38:29.800 --> 01:38:31.640
and you could find your own.
I'm not incapable of doing that, but

1193
01:38:31.760 --> 01:38:38.039
we have wonderful pr people out there
who always are pitching guests who've got a

1194
01:38:38.079 --> 01:38:41.760
book or you know, a new
column out or a new piece that they

1195
01:38:41.880 --> 01:38:45.279
want to get out to the American
public in general. And we're one of

1196
01:38:45.319 --> 01:38:50.720
those conduits, one of many.
And I saw this and I saw the

1197
01:38:50.840 --> 01:38:57.359
title Arab, like me an interest
is Instantly my interest was pequked and I

1198
01:38:57.439 --> 01:39:01.359
started reading about the author. He
was also the host of our American Stories.

1199
01:39:01.399 --> 01:39:05.960
He's a Newsweek columnist and he happens
to be Arab. I mean,

1200
01:39:06.039 --> 01:39:11.119
he has that ethnicity in him.
His name is Lee Habib and we welcome

1201
01:39:11.199 --> 01:39:15.439
into the show tonight. Lee.
How are you doing. I'm great,

1202
01:39:15.520 --> 01:39:20.880
Thanks for having me on. So
are you American born? I'm American born.

1203
01:39:21.000 --> 01:39:26.920
Grandfather came from Lebanon on the father's
side, and other grandparents came from

1204
01:39:26.960 --> 01:39:30.720
Italy on my mom's side. Now, your grandfather came from Lebanon. The

1205
01:39:30.800 --> 01:39:38.199
Lebanese have a people always think of
them as being a Muslim, but there's

1206
01:39:38.239 --> 01:39:42.479
a large Christian community. Was your
grandfather a Christian or was he a Muslim?

1207
01:39:42.600 --> 01:39:45.560
Or he was a Christian, But
folks in America always assumed I was

1208
01:39:45.560 --> 01:39:48.319
a Muslim. Not that there's anything
wrong with that. No, And what's

1209
01:39:48.399 --> 01:39:51.760
interesting is there used to be a
lot of Christians in Lebanon and there aren't

1210
01:39:51.800 --> 01:39:56.039
anymore. There used to be a
lot of Christians all through the Middle East,

1211
01:39:56.159 --> 01:40:00.560
and there aren't anymore. Not only
your Jews hated through out the Middle

1212
01:40:00.560 --> 01:40:04.560
East, but Christians are now pretty
much universally disliked in the Middle East.

1213
01:40:04.800 --> 01:40:09.199
And the Middle East has turned into
a ninety one percent Muslim part of the

1214
01:40:09.279 --> 01:40:13.359
world. Ninety one percent. And
that's not it has not been that way

1215
01:40:13.479 --> 01:40:19.359
forever. You know. One of
the things about attacking Iraq and the persecution,

1216
01:40:19.640 --> 01:40:25.039
prosecution and finally the death of Saddam
Hussein and him being ousted from power.

1217
01:40:25.279 --> 01:40:30.279
When Saddam was in power, he
was, from all I understand,

1218
01:40:30.600 --> 01:40:36.000
someone who was sympathetic and a friend
to Christians in Iraq. Was that the

1219
01:40:36.079 --> 01:40:41.560
case? Well, I don't know
that he was sympathetic to anybody per se.

1220
01:40:42.000 --> 01:40:45.159
What he was was hostile. What
he was hostile to with the crazies.

1221
01:40:45.399 --> 01:40:47.319
And not that he was a good
man, because he was a ruthless

1222
01:40:47.399 --> 01:40:55.039
man. But he kept Isis and
the radical Ras, radical Islamists at Bay

1223
01:40:55.680 --> 01:41:00.880
and when that war started out game
the Islamist out came Isis Boy, the

1224
01:41:00.079 --> 01:41:08.319
greatest victim aside from Muslims who were
not seeking the craziness that ensued. Many

1225
01:41:08.439 --> 01:41:14.560
Muslims died recklessly and needlessly, but
so many Christians were purged from the Middle

1226
01:41:14.560 --> 01:41:19.279
East as a result. It's still
one of the great untold stories about religious

1227
01:41:19.319 --> 01:41:25.199
persecution, is what happened to Christians
throughout the Middle East over the last twenty

1228
01:41:25.319 --> 01:41:31.560
years, all of the result of
a vacuum of power that Saddam Hussein had

1229
01:41:31.600 --> 01:41:36.560
occupied before that time. That is
exactly right. Lee Habib our guest Newsweek

1230
01:41:36.600 --> 01:41:43.520
calumnist and host of our American Stories, and this piece Arab, Like me,

1231
01:41:45.159 --> 01:41:49.439
what what was the inspiration? I
guess a whole lifetime inspiration. But

1232
01:41:50.520 --> 01:41:55.279
why did you want to get this
particular personal story out to people? Lee,

1233
01:41:56.319 --> 01:42:00.000
Well, because you know, being
an Arab and having an Arab blessed

1234
01:42:00.199 --> 01:42:02.840
name has been an interesting life.
You know, there's been a lot of

1235
01:42:02.960 --> 01:42:08.680
terrorism done under the name of Arabs
Muslims. I mean, it's not Indonesian

1236
01:42:08.760 --> 01:42:12.760
Muslims blowing up the world. It's
Middle Eastern Muslims, and a particular type

1237
01:42:12.760 --> 01:42:16.840
of Muslim, a super radical,
lunatic, fringe Muslim. And so I'm

1238
01:42:16.840 --> 01:42:21.960
always sort of thrown into that group, and I never minded. For the

1239
01:42:23.039 --> 01:42:26.039
most part, I was always treated
very well by white people. I was

1240
01:42:26.079 --> 01:42:30.199
always treated very beautifully by the country. My grandfather from Lebanon loved America.

1241
01:42:30.319 --> 01:42:35.840
Wept that the sound of God bless
America or the flag. And what happened

1242
01:42:35.880 --> 01:42:39.840
for me in my personal life was
in nineteen eighty three, I'm in college

1243
01:42:40.359 --> 01:42:45.640
and Lebanon is getting into a civil
war and Israel's feeling afraid, and I

1244
01:42:45.800 --> 01:42:48.239
write a column, a simple column
or some I don't even remember what it

1245
01:42:48.439 --> 01:42:54.560
was, but I simply defended Israel, and I defended America. I defended

1246
01:42:54.640 --> 01:42:59.159
the West, and I really went
after the radical Muslims that had been unleashed

1247
01:42:59.680 --> 01:43:03.319
since the revolution in Iran in nineteen
seventy nine. The mules, we're going

1248
01:43:03.399 --> 01:43:09.560
to mess up everything. And we
now know they finance HESBLA and they finance

1249
01:43:09.640 --> 01:43:12.279
a moss. But in nineteen eighty
three, it was just starting, and

1250
01:43:12.319 --> 01:43:15.640
if you remember, our marine barracks
blew up and we lost more marines that

1251
01:43:15.840 --> 01:43:20.520
day than since Iwajima. And so
I thought I was taking a very simple

1252
01:43:20.600 --> 01:43:24.880
stand that everyone in my college would
agree with, which is that I stand

1253
01:43:24.920 --> 01:43:28.720
with America and I stand with Israel. I stand with freedom and the forces

1254
01:43:28.760 --> 01:43:32.039
for good. America is not perfect, but Americas should be there. Well,

1255
01:43:32.159 --> 01:43:35.680
my Arab friends instantly divorced me.
How dare I side with Israel?

1256
01:43:35.760 --> 01:43:41.960
Now? I expected that because my
Arab friends were rabid anti semis, and

1257
01:43:42.159 --> 01:43:46.119
the Arab world is filled with the
very worst kind of antisemitism drilled into the

1258
01:43:46.199 --> 01:43:51.079
Arab culture through cartoons, literature,
a book called The Protocols of the Elders

1259
01:43:51.119 --> 01:43:56.479
of Zion. You are taught in
most Middle Eastern countries from K to twelve

1260
01:43:56.920 --> 01:44:00.640
that Jews are evil, that Jews
are the devil that the and Jews have

1261
01:44:00.760 --> 01:44:05.159
money is because they've stolen from others, the usual anti Semitic tropes that led

1262
01:44:05.239 --> 01:44:10.800
to the programs of Russia and what
happened to the Jews in Nazi Germany.

1263
01:44:11.119 --> 01:44:14.520
So the Arab world is filled with
that stuff. But what was more interesting

1264
01:44:15.039 --> 01:44:19.640
was how white people treated me,
particularly the small group of radical progressors who

1265
01:44:19.680 --> 01:44:26.159
were starting to take over liberal arts
departments in the Northeastern universities like Columbia,

1266
01:44:26.479 --> 01:44:30.560
the Ivy League, and my college
fairly to Kinson University, which was a

1267
01:44:30.720 --> 01:44:34.520
stone throw from the Columbia campus,
and some of that radicalism had seeped into

1268
01:44:34.960 --> 01:44:39.439
some of our young faculty and some
of our white students. I got a

1269
01:44:39.560 --> 01:44:44.119
lecture from the white students explaining to
me that how dare I be on the

1270
01:44:44.159 --> 01:44:47.520
side of Israel, that they're oppressors, and that I should be with the

1271
01:44:47.840 --> 01:44:53.760
oppressed because I'm an Arab, and
that the Palestinians are the oppressed. They

1272
01:44:53.800 --> 01:44:57.880
have no power. Israel has the
power. Lebanon's a little tiny country.

1273
01:44:58.000 --> 01:45:02.159
Israel is a powerhouse country. How
could I be siding with the white people

1274
01:45:02.560 --> 01:45:09.840
from Israel and with white Americans.
And this was my foray into the space

1275
01:45:10.600 --> 01:45:18.159
of dealing with at the time a
nascent and a burgeoning oppressed oppressor mentality creeping

1276
01:45:18.239 --> 01:45:24.199
into the liberal arts departments and now
that dominate the liberal arts departments. And

1277
01:45:24.279 --> 01:45:30.359
there I was being not only expelled
from my Arab group like blacks kicked out

1278
01:45:30.399 --> 01:45:33.760
of the black group for being an
uncle Tom. Actually, some some of

1279
01:45:33.840 --> 01:45:38.720
my ad friends called me an uncle
Ahab because I was a trader. But

1280
01:45:39.079 --> 01:45:44.439
worse, the white progressors explaining to
me that I was white even though I

1281
01:45:44.520 --> 01:45:46.840
have a very dark skin and in
the summer, I'm darker than Barack Obama.

1282
01:45:47.880 --> 01:45:50.720
And they were telling you I was
white because I thought white, and

1283
01:45:50.920 --> 01:45:56.000
I thought white because, well,
my grandfather, the stake he made in

1284
01:45:56.119 --> 01:46:00.399
his life was coming to America and
then trying to blend in with Americans and

1285
01:46:00.600 --> 01:46:06.159
become white and embrace capitalism and embrace
individual rights and property rights and all the

1286
01:46:06.279 --> 01:46:10.640
things that my grandfather loved and I
love. So now I was not only

1287
01:46:10.720 --> 01:46:15.359
in battle with my Arab friends,
but with large, this small but growing

1288
01:46:15.479 --> 01:46:20.560
group of liberal arts students now who
were the beginnings of what we now see

1289
01:46:20.680 --> 01:46:30.439
today forty years later as a mainstream
faculty and large majorities of English major sociology,

1290
01:46:30.560 --> 01:46:34.560
anthropology, all the kids in the
liberal arts departments being trained under this

1291
01:46:35.159 --> 01:46:41.359
oppressor mindset. And there's one simple
book, a book called Wretched of the

1292
01:46:41.399 --> 01:46:45.520
Earth by Franz Banan, which was
the hottest book on my campus and still

1293
01:46:45.600 --> 01:46:49.119
to this day, along with a
guy named Michael Fuco. When you read

1294
01:46:49.239 --> 01:46:57.399
these two authors, you'll understand everything
you need to know about the binary through

1295
01:46:57.439 --> 01:47:01.600
which the white progressives and all kinds
of other progressives see the world. And

1296
01:47:01.680 --> 01:47:06.720
that is the powerful and the powerless, the colonial, the colonizers and the

1297
01:47:06.920 --> 01:47:13.680
colonized, the oppressors and the oppressed, and if you take the side of

1298
01:47:13.720 --> 01:47:17.000
the oppressor, you're good and virtuous
depressed. And if you take the side

1299
01:47:17.000 --> 01:47:20.720
of the oppressor, you're bad and
you're out. And so I experienced the

1300
01:47:20.800 --> 01:47:26.079
full wrath of that binary and come
ten to seven when everybody was shocked,

1301
01:47:26.479 --> 01:47:30.199
and how the Arab world was reacting, and how the campus is reacting.

1302
01:47:30.359 --> 01:47:34.439
Not only wasn't I shocked, but
the monsters marching on those campus were created

1303
01:47:34.960 --> 01:47:40.920
by the faculties of the United States
of America K to twelve and beyond.

1304
01:47:41.439 --> 01:47:45.479
This is not some accident. This
has been a work in progress for forty

1305
01:47:45.600 --> 01:47:49.720
years. And I was the first
and earliest victim, way back in nineteen

1306
01:47:49.760 --> 01:47:56.600
eighty three when this stuff was just
starting to take hold in undergraduate facilities.

1307
01:47:56.720 --> 01:48:02.960
It had been a graduate school preoccupation
critical ray theory oppressed oppressor mindsets in the

1308
01:48:03.039 --> 01:48:06.920
sixties and seventies, and so it
took those twenty years to go from the

1309
01:48:06.960 --> 01:48:12.600
grad schools to the undergraduate and that's
from the undergraduate into the K twelve through

1310
01:48:12.640 --> 01:48:16.640
the schools of education, and then
to sort of go unchecked with conservatives pretty

1311
01:48:16.720 --> 01:48:19.640
much. You know, we were
asleep at the wheel and we sort of

1312
01:48:19.720 --> 01:48:23.760
let all of this happen, and
when the few of us would talk about

1313
01:48:23.760 --> 01:48:26.279
it with friends, they go,
oh, come on, come on,

1314
01:48:26.560 --> 01:48:29.720
what can they do? They're allowed, They're stupid. That's nonsense. And

1315
01:48:29.800 --> 01:48:31.760
the next thing, you know,
that's our whole pretty much of our public

1316
01:48:31.880 --> 01:48:39.039
education system is teaching this rubbish and
not teaching the things that matter most,

1317
01:48:39.079 --> 01:48:42.880
which is what is Western civilization and
what is it done for the world.

1318
01:48:43.199 --> 01:48:47.319
I think that's staggering, I think
to a great extent. Talking to Leejabi,

1319
01:48:47.600 --> 01:48:56.720
Newsweek columnist Arab like me, he
says, and Lee, it is

1320
01:48:56.920 --> 01:49:01.600
this indoctrination that has been fomented over
the last forty to fifty years on college

1321
01:49:01.680 --> 01:49:09.640
campuses, and it is all about
anti westernism, it's all about anti capitalism,

1322
01:49:11.000 --> 01:49:15.800
all of these things, anti colonialism. But isn't it also the nature

1323
01:49:15.840 --> 01:49:21.079
And I remember being eighteen, nineteen, twenty years old, it's real easy,

1324
01:49:21.279 --> 01:49:26.159
even if you're not indoctrinated, to
get swept up in the Oh,

1325
01:49:26.239 --> 01:49:30.680
look there's a protest on campus.
I'm going you think there's a little bit

1326
01:49:30.720 --> 01:49:33.960
of that too, just doing it
just to belong even if you've not been

1327
01:49:34.640 --> 01:49:40.079
you haven't bought into the nonsense of
the oppressor. Versus the opbreast. No,

1328
01:49:40.239 --> 01:49:44.880
I actually have really deep feelings about
this, if you've been educated properly

1329
01:49:44.920 --> 01:49:47.439
as I was. I mean,
if I'm sitting there reading Shakespeare, reading

1330
01:49:47.520 --> 01:49:51.720
the Constitution, reading the Founders,
I mean, this bounced off me like

1331
01:49:51.920 --> 01:49:56.239
water off of camel's back. I
mean it was nothing to me. Forget

1332
01:49:56.279 --> 01:50:01.279
a duck. It was nothing to
me because I knew better. Not that

1333
01:50:01.319 --> 01:50:06.079
there are an injustices that are perpetuated
by colonizers, of course there are,

1334
01:50:06.560 --> 01:50:13.760
but that everybody's been trying to colonize
everybody forever. And the way we've done

1335
01:50:13.920 --> 01:50:19.239
colonialism in America does not look like
the extraction colonialism of the twelfth century or

1336
01:50:19.279 --> 01:50:26.159
the Ottomans, or the or the
Chinese imperialists or the Russian imperialists. Think

1337
01:50:26.199 --> 01:50:29.119
about and I always say, compared
to who? And are we really an

1338
01:50:29.159 --> 01:50:32.520
imperialist country? And so look,
you're much more susceptible to this kind of

1339
01:50:33.479 --> 01:50:38.560
logic and this kind of argument if
you don't know the counter argument. This

1340
01:50:38.760 --> 01:50:44.359
is why they stop teaching history.
It's not an accident that we don't understand

1341
01:50:44.800 --> 01:50:47.119
our own past, because if you
don't know your own past, then it's

1342
01:50:47.279 --> 01:50:51.760
easy to see only the sins of
your past, but not the greatness of

1343
01:50:51.840 --> 01:50:56.640
our past. So if you grew
up on the idea that our founders owned

1344
01:50:56.680 --> 01:51:00.560
slaves, but you didn't know that
everybody else owns slaves at the time,

1345
01:51:00.039 --> 01:51:05.359
and that what's remarkable about our country
and the White West is that we invented

1346
01:51:05.479 --> 01:51:11.800
the abolition of slavery. And it
was the Middle Easterns who gave up slavery

1347
01:51:11.880 --> 01:51:15.560
last. It was the Africans who
gave up slavery last. And it was

1348
01:51:15.600 --> 01:51:19.119
the Africans who sold their own people, mostly to each other and then mostly

1349
01:51:19.239 --> 01:51:23.880
to the Middle East. And then
once you know those facts, you don't

1350
01:51:23.960 --> 01:51:29.520
excuse the fact that Jefferson owned slaves. But it pained Jefferson, it pained

1351
01:51:29.760 --> 01:51:33.199
Washington. And remember Jefferson, one
of his great acts with the Northwest Ordinance

1352
01:51:33.560 --> 01:51:39.479
was to outlaws slavery in all those
new states. So Jefferson was a man

1353
01:51:39.640 --> 01:51:43.520
torn he owned slaves because he was
a creature of his time. And we

1354
01:51:43.600 --> 01:51:47.399
shouldn't judge men out of their context, because in seventeen fifty, nobody had

1355
01:51:47.920 --> 01:51:53.039
nobody in the world that outlawed slavery. So it's not that it's good.

1356
01:51:53.159 --> 01:51:56.840
It doesn't mean we counted in slavery, but it just means that don't judge

1357
01:51:56.880 --> 01:52:00.079
people out of their time and have
historical context. But if you don't have

1358
01:52:00.279 --> 01:52:04.279
historical context, and then you're told, oh, our founder's old owned slaves

1359
01:52:04.600 --> 01:52:11.039
while sign a decoration that's aid all
men are created equal, then what hypocrites?

1360
01:52:12.000 --> 01:52:15.159
What a hypocritical nation? And my
goodness, all of our entire capitalist

1361
01:52:15.159 --> 01:52:19.359
structure was built on the backs of
slaves. And then you get these arguments

1362
01:52:19.399 --> 01:52:26.520
that are not only not true,
but they're not contextually relevant. They don't

1363
01:52:26.520 --> 01:52:30.439
even mean anything. But again,
if you've not read no books and had

1364
01:52:30.479 --> 01:52:33.319
no counter argument, then it's easy
to stir these kids up to protest because

1365
01:52:33.399 --> 01:52:39.840
kids are naturally anti authoritarian. They
want to argue against what their parents believe.

1366
01:52:40.239 --> 01:52:44.079
But if it goes beyond what the
parents believe to what the culture knows

1367
01:52:44.159 --> 01:52:48.279
about itself, then it's harder to
flip the script, which is why the

1368
01:52:48.399 --> 01:52:54.439
left has been for forty to fifty
years rewriting, if not eliminating, the

1369
01:52:54.520 --> 01:52:59.439
study of American history, historical and
the Constitution. Yeah, historical context,

1370
01:52:59.479 --> 01:53:01.479
real quick, talking to Leehabbee,
We got just a couple of minutes left,

1371
01:53:01.560 --> 01:53:04.359
Lee, and if if you can
confine this to an answer that that

1372
01:53:04.600 --> 01:53:10.319
short, I'll applaud you as being
brilliant. But you've been brilliant already.

1373
01:53:10.399 --> 01:53:15.760
So here's the question historically, in
the historical context, is there really such

1374
01:53:15.800 --> 01:53:20.720
a thing as a Palestinian culture or
a Palestinian language? I mean, who

1375
01:53:20.800 --> 01:53:26.119
are these people that call themselves Palestinians? Really? Well, this is the

1376
01:53:26.199 --> 01:53:29.279
question, right if you don't know
the history, if you don't know who

1377
01:53:29.439 --> 01:53:31.359
is there really first? Right?
So the Jews are there first, and

1378
01:53:31.439 --> 01:53:34.680
then the Jews are expelled, and
then yes, there are some indigenous people

1379
01:53:34.800 --> 01:53:39.319
living there. There are people who
might call themselves Palestinian. Where are they

1380
01:53:39.479 --> 01:53:43.840
from? Who's Jordan? Do people
know that Jordan is mostly Palestinian? That

1381
01:53:43.920 --> 01:53:47.039
the Palestinians already of a state?
And then when the partition happens in nineteen

1382
01:53:47.199 --> 01:53:53.279
forty eight, you know, why
are Jews able to turn their part of

1383
01:53:53.359 --> 01:53:58.640
the land into a thriving, thriving
democratic republic, right? And why is

1384
01:53:58.680 --> 01:54:01.840
it that the Palestinians struggling still?
So it's not only who are they,

1385
01:54:02.159 --> 01:54:06.399
but what's their claim? What's their
claim? The land was stolen from them?

1386
01:54:06.479 --> 01:54:11.079
They were there first, that's not
true, not tr right. And

1387
01:54:11.199 --> 01:54:15.720
moreover, everybody's had land taken from
them during war and conquest forever, so

1388
01:54:16.159 --> 01:54:20.399
under their logic, the Mexicans should
be able to say, give us Phoenix,

1389
01:54:20.960 --> 01:54:26.159
it's ours and we're going to blow
it up. Lately, they are

1390
01:54:26.319 --> 01:54:30.239
taking it back as well as the
rest of the world through the colonization that

1391
01:54:30.359 --> 01:54:33.600
is happening through our lack of a
border in the South. It's amazing.

1392
01:54:33.600 --> 01:54:38.239
Look, no doubt, no doubt, And look, the colonization of the

1393
01:54:38.319 --> 01:54:43.359
mind is what I care about.
And the Marxists have worked hard at colonizing

1394
01:54:43.439 --> 01:54:45.479
the minds of our young people.
And until we get back to the study

1395
01:54:45.520 --> 01:54:49.840
of Western civilization in American history,
we have to have some narrative to replace

1396
01:54:50.000 --> 01:54:55.319
that or that will continue to be
the triumphal That will be the triumphal narrative.

1397
01:54:55.560 --> 01:55:00.439
Congratulations, Leah Beb you have successfully
completed my challenge. I appreciate it.

1398
01:55:00.439 --> 01:55:04.640
I I appreciate so much. Time. You can read Lee in Newsmax.

1399
01:55:04.720 --> 01:55:09.399
He's a columnist there. And our
American Stories. Where can people find

1400
01:55:09.439 --> 01:55:14.439
that, Lee? Just go to
our American Stories dot com. We're syndicated

1401
01:55:14.479 --> 01:55:19.039
all over the country by iHeart and
we are Our podcast is available two hours

1402
01:55:19.079 --> 01:55:23.680
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storytelling about a good and beautiful country.

1403
01:55:23.960 --> 01:55:28.760
It's just American stories about our history, our past, our present, sports,

1404
01:55:28.880 --> 01:55:33.399
business, innovation, military stuff.
Some of the greatest contributors in the

1405
01:55:33.479 --> 01:55:39.600
world who can give us contribution to
a remarkable a remarkable show. You just

1406
01:55:40.279 --> 01:55:44.079
you just convinced that I'm a convert. I'm a new listener. I would

1407
01:55:44.119 --> 01:55:46.800
be checking that. That's right up
my alley, Lejabib. Thank you so

1408
01:55:46.960 --> 01:55:51.279
much for joining us on the Nightcab
and Merry Christmas much appreciate. Merry Christmas

1409
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to you. All right With that, we close out back in a moment

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for the anthem host, the man
who can make you or cry. Willie

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Who's the man who holds politician's feet
to the fire. Willie, Who's the

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man who looks something like Uncle Sam's
This the nephew Corky Willie Willie Cunningham,

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the voice of the people. My
friends, be the Eagle, so hard

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and free. When you're listening to
me tomorrow with new I Am a Great

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American on seven hundred WLW and catch
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