WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.839 --> 00:00:07.599 This is www superstar Drew McIntyre, and you're listening to the w w E 2 00:00:07.839 --> 00:00:24.879 podcast. Stop the show, the one that everybody wants me well start three 3 00:00:25.079 --> 00:00:32.039 sixteen says just Clift. Your ass is moder You're gonna acknowledge me. Everybody. 4 00:00:32.039 --> 00:00:34.240 Welcome to the current state of w w E E Boyder. We have 5 00:00:34.320 --> 00:00:38.320 a lot to talk about tonight with our co host every week, Anthony DeMarco 6 00:00:38.600 --> 00:00:42.840 as Yes, payback has just occurred, well two nights ago. We'll put 7 00:00:42.840 --> 00:00:45.600 a bow on that, wrap it up real nice for you and put it 8 00:00:45.679 --> 00:00:49.880 under the Christmas tree and it'll be the final discussion about Payback tonight. We'll 9 00:00:49.880 --> 00:00:54.039 do that in the second half, and I mean we'll we'll start in just 10 00:00:54.119 --> 00:00:57.679 a moment with the whole cm punk rumors and coming to w w E. 11 00:00:57.840 --> 00:01:00.960 Should he should he not? Will he? Will he not? So we'll 12 00:01:00.960 --> 00:01:03.359 start with all of that in just a minute. But first, welcome to 13 00:01:03.359 --> 00:01:06.640 show Anthony. How you doing man? Not too bad man. You know, 14 00:01:06.840 --> 00:01:10.799 had a good time watching Payback, and you know it's a B level 15 00:01:10.840 --> 00:01:15.640 pay per view. Nothing astronomical happened, nothing super groundbreaking happened, but I 16 00:01:15.680 --> 00:01:22.239 think that it was just another example that in under the Triple H era, 17 00:01:22.400 --> 00:01:25.239 we should always give pay per views the band for the doubt, and not 18 00:01:25.280 --> 00:01:26.319 to say that every pay per view is going to be a home run. 19 00:01:26.359 --> 00:01:33.439 Like I thought, SummerSlam was disappointing relatively speaking to its expectations and the overall 20 00:01:33.519 --> 00:01:38.840 history of that event. But under Triple H is regime here that has been 21 00:01:38.879 --> 00:01:42.040 going on for about thirteen months or so, maybe a bit longer than that, 22 00:01:42.480 --> 00:01:46.280 and we've talked about a lot too, is that even B level pay 23 00:01:46.280 --> 00:01:49.599 per views now feel important. And I think that relatively speaking, payback did 24 00:01:49.640 --> 00:01:56.359 deliver. Yeah, it did. I mean I came away the same way 25 00:01:56.400 --> 00:02:00.159 I felt about so many other events other than SummerSlam. Oddly enough, I 26 00:02:00.319 --> 00:02:04.799 felt the same way about about ninety percent of the events since the Triple H 27 00:02:04.920 --> 00:02:08.840 regime took over and came away going wow, Okay, that was way better. 28 00:02:08.840 --> 00:02:14.000 And I attributed it a lot to the wrestlers themselves, not necessarily to 29 00:02:14.039 --> 00:02:16.639 the booking, although the booking was generally good. I attributed it to the 30 00:02:16.680 --> 00:02:22.199 guys and gals in the ring who were able to have enough time to tell 31 00:02:22.199 --> 00:02:25.599 a story. That's what they're trained to do, That's what they did at 32 00:02:25.639 --> 00:02:32.599 a premium level last night, particularly with Trish and Attrish and Becky Lynch, 33 00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:38.120 and they over delivered on so many levels. I mean, I'm not trying 34 00:02:38.120 --> 00:02:39.560 to go through match by match here, but if you're if you're looking at 35 00:02:39.560 --> 00:02:45.360 this from an expectation standpoint and you're going, man, this match totally blew 36 00:02:45.400 --> 00:02:47.280 me away from what I thought it was going to be. Was that one 37 00:02:47.319 --> 00:02:53.840 of those matches for sure? And I think overall that entire program has been 38 00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:58.199 underwhelming. But you know, even though it's been underwhelming, I'm happy that 39 00:02:58.240 --> 00:03:01.560 we saw it right. And I know a lot of people have been dunking 40 00:03:01.560 --> 00:03:07.800 on Trish here, but if I'm being honest, that program was more underwelling 41 00:03:07.879 --> 00:03:12.280 because of Becky Lynch. And I just think that Becky Lynch has been stale 42 00:03:12.319 --> 00:03:15.479 for quite a while now, And I go all the way back to her 43 00:03:15.639 --> 00:03:21.599 feud with Bailey last year that was mega stale and really nobody had any interest 44 00:03:21.680 --> 00:03:25.639 in. And I just think that Becky has kind of been the common denominator 45 00:03:25.719 --> 00:03:30.560 here in terms of I don't want to say boring, but just stale storytelling. 46 00:03:30.639 --> 00:03:35.639 And it feels like she's caught in a time machine and won't leave two, 47 00:03:36.039 --> 00:03:39.840 eighteen or nineteen, And you know, I actually I like Trish's work. 48 00:03:40.000 --> 00:03:44.520 Is she, you know, an A plus entering performer? Is she, 49 00:03:44.719 --> 00:03:47.080 you know, even in the top five of women wrestlers right now? 50 00:03:47.240 --> 00:03:52.879 Obviously not, But I really think that Trish came back in the semi full 51 00:03:52.879 --> 00:03:57.199 time run since let's say, WrestleMania and has really given us a lot. 52 00:03:57.319 --> 00:04:00.000 Like I can't say enough about Trish, and relatively speaking, I don't know 53 00:04:00.039 --> 00:04:03.960 what more we could have expected of her, including elevating a star and Zoe 54 00:04:04.120 --> 00:04:09.159 Stark, Like Zoe Stark already feels like a star, and look a lot 55 00:04:09.199 --> 00:04:12.840 of that is on Zoey Stark's part, on her alone, and she's an 56 00:04:12.879 --> 00:04:15.399 incredible shape. I think she's already a decent promo good in the ring, 57 00:04:15.480 --> 00:04:20.480 but Trish has elevated her and kind of put her over after the cage match 58 00:04:20.519 --> 00:04:24.879 on Saturday night. And to be quite honest, I lie this more at 59 00:04:24.920 --> 00:04:28.480 the feet of Becky Lynch as to why this program kind of felt flat even 60 00:04:28.519 --> 00:04:32.680 though the final payoff was more was over delivered, let's say, more than 61 00:04:32.720 --> 00:04:36.560 what we were expecting. That's an interesting take, you know, I didn't 62 00:04:36.600 --> 00:04:40.240 think that, you know, as you look at the Becky Lynch and Trish 63 00:04:40.279 --> 00:04:43.319 program. A lot of people were saying, Oh, it's Trish, she 64 00:04:43.360 --> 00:04:46.079 shouldn't be here. You know, she can't cut good promos all of that 65 00:04:46.120 --> 00:04:50.399 stuff, and some of the criticisms are fair, but people very rarely are 66 00:04:50.439 --> 00:04:55.120 looking at Becky as the culprit of this. And it is kind of an 67 00:04:55.160 --> 00:04:58.839 interesting argument to me made that Becky has actually been the one that's been flat 68 00:04:59.360 --> 00:05:02.360 and nominator. Yeah, that's what it is, And it's weird to say, 69 00:05:02.519 --> 00:05:06.319 given all that she's accomplished, But she feels, now that you bring 70 00:05:06.360 --> 00:05:10.959 it up, kind of like she's been going through the motions of her programs 71 00:05:11.279 --> 00:05:15.720 for a while and she went from a heel all of a sudden transition back 72 00:05:15.759 --> 00:05:20.240 to the man literally overnight, you know, went immediately back to that character, 73 00:05:20.680 --> 00:05:26.160 no changes, like you said, back to the twenty eighteen WrestleMania thirty 74 00:05:26.160 --> 00:05:30.839 five main event man. And you know, while there's nothing wrong with that 75 00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:34.399 inherently, it's just kind of a de evolution of the character, or rather 76 00:05:34.480 --> 00:05:41.519 a kind of sustained character that feels like it needs to evolve more. Her 77 00:05:41.560 --> 00:05:46.160 promos haven't exactly been on fire. It does feel like she's been uninspired for 78 00:05:46.199 --> 00:05:49.800 a while, and people keep waiting for her to go to Rhea, which 79 00:05:49.800 --> 00:05:54.720 I thought was going to happen after this matchup. But it looks like she's 80 00:05:54.720 --> 00:05:59.399 going to Tiffany Stratton over on SmackDown. She's the NXT Women's Championship be so 81 00:05:59.439 --> 00:06:00.639 I guess Becky, he's going to be going over there floating around for a 82 00:06:00.680 --> 00:06:04.199 while before they get to Rhea and Becky. So yeah, but hey, 83 00:06:04.319 --> 00:06:09.360 credit to Trish in this. Trish killed it. She I don't know if 84 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:13.240 anyone saw her post match, but she had a massive mike. God. 85 00:06:13.639 --> 00:06:15.360 She doesn't need to be doing this right now, she I mean, like 86 00:06:15.519 --> 00:06:18.639 her age, her legacy, she doesn't need to be doing this. So 87 00:06:19.120 --> 00:06:21.839 people went into this going, oh my god, I want this program to 88 00:06:21.959 --> 00:06:26.040 end, and people came out going, man, I actually wouldn't mind one 89 00:06:26.040 --> 00:06:29.040 more match from Trish or you know, if this program went one more time, 90 00:06:29.040 --> 00:06:30.600 I don't know if I'd really hate it because the match was so damn 91 00:06:30.639 --> 00:06:34.560 good and I don't This arguably may have been Trish's best match ever when you 92 00:06:34.600 --> 00:06:40.319 think about her her body of work, you know it may have been from 93 00:06:40.319 --> 00:06:44.720 a wrestling perspective, one of her best. So yeah, I really had 94 00:06:44.800 --> 00:06:48.720 no issues of this. It completely blew away expectations. So now what about 95 00:06:49.079 --> 00:06:51.519 some other big stuff. I don't know if you wanted to comment on it 96 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:56.800 with Shintigan Kamara and Seth Rollins. That was the other thing I wanted to 97 00:06:56.879 --> 00:07:00.680 ask to Did you enjoy that match and enjoy the outcome? Yeah? I 98 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:05.000 it was somewhat predictable, But I think that you brought up a good point. 99 00:07:05.079 --> 00:07:11.040 I believe it was your raw review last week where or maybe your payback 100 00:07:11.120 --> 00:07:13.800 preview, I'm not quite sure what it was, but you said just the 101 00:07:13.839 --> 00:07:16.600 fact that there was a little seat of doubt planted about Shinsky winning. They 102 00:07:16.600 --> 00:07:21.079 did their job, and I just think that again under the Triple A regime, 103 00:07:21.160 --> 00:07:26.279 and it doesn't come without flaws, but I think what he has done 104 00:07:26.720 --> 00:07:31.920 terrifically is has made you care about stories that you know that you know three, 105 00:07:32.079 --> 00:07:35.720 four or five years ago you wouldn't have cared about. And you know 106 00:07:35.839 --> 00:07:41.160 that if this program was going on, and let's say twenty seventeen, like 107 00:07:41.199 --> 00:07:46.199 when Shinsky was feuding with Ginder Mahal for the WWE Championship, you wouldn't have 108 00:07:46.279 --> 00:07:50.399 cared and you wouldn't have thought Shinsky had a snowballs chance of hell of weighing 109 00:07:50.399 --> 00:07:55.839 the championship. But that's the way that we came into this. As soon 110 00:07:55.879 --> 00:07:59.519 as we saw saw Shinsky attack Seth, we were just like, Okay, 111 00:07:59.560 --> 00:08:03.360 here's just a filler feud, while Seth waits for his bigger and his more 112 00:08:03.439 --> 00:08:07.079 true opponent, a true risk at this. All of a sudden we got 113 00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:11.759 a true mission from Shinsky, and you saw a big, deep dive into 114 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:16.759 character development and motivation and why Shinsky was doing this. And I think we've 115 00:08:16.800 --> 00:08:22.279 seen that at all levels here, like where you will care about matches because 116 00:08:22.319 --> 00:08:28.399 of builds that you typically wouldn't really give a damn about. And you know, 117 00:08:28.319 --> 00:08:31.480 I always equal like I don't always, but one thing that I would 118 00:08:31.480 --> 00:08:37.000 equate it to was like the Alpha Academy against the Viking Raiders from let's say 119 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:41.200 a month or two ago, where no one really cared about it wasn't all 120 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:46.519 that significant, but wwe invested time into at least creating some kind of a 121 00:08:46.559 --> 00:08:50.000 story telling us as to why this was happening. And I felt they did 122 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:56.080 that tenfold with Shinsky. Nakamura a bit of a predictable outcome obviously with Seth 123 00:08:56.120 --> 00:09:00.519 retain the championship, especially at a B level pay per view, But it 124 00:09:00.559 --> 00:09:03.759 was a good match, and there was that seed of doubt of Shinsky actually 125 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:09.919 being a truth that threat to the Seth championship. That's all you can ask 126 00:09:09.039 --> 00:09:13.080 for. And just people that were down on this program, you know, 127 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:18.440 and I was like everyone else when this first happened, Like you said, 128 00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:20.519 we were just like, okay, we Shinsk, he'll turn. I guess 129 00:09:20.759 --> 00:09:24.639 fine, you know it'll it'll be okay, you know the Let Shinsk say 130 00:09:24.679 --> 00:09:31.399 five words and that'll be it. And we got a transitional segment with Shinsky 131 00:09:31.559 --> 00:09:35.879 that tore apart. His family, talked about sets back, brought to light 132 00:09:35.919 --> 00:09:39.360 and injury that many of us didn't know existed. That is real. Let 133 00:09:39.399 --> 00:09:46.519 Shinsky speak in his native language. His body language is just superb. The 134 00:09:46.600 --> 00:09:50.840 way that he attacks Seth and then just kind of stared at him, his 135 00:09:50.960 --> 00:09:54.840 attacks from behind, it's all been brilliant. The match that they had here 136 00:09:56.080 --> 00:09:58.320 was I mean, it's as good as you could have hoped it would be 137 00:09:58.799 --> 00:10:03.519 for an in ring perspective. Again, not perfect, but I wasn't expecting 138 00:10:03.519 --> 00:10:07.080 perfection. But there were moments in that match with the you know, the 139 00:10:07.639 --> 00:10:11.440 kinshasa from behind. I go, you know, hey, this isn't impossible 140 00:10:11.480 --> 00:10:15.519 here, It's not impossible. The story was his back and the targeting of 141 00:10:15.559 --> 00:10:20.120 his back. Excellent story to tell. People came out of this really hoping 142 00:10:20.159 --> 00:10:24.879 for another and from what I understand, that's actually what is tentatively scheduled for 143 00:10:24.960 --> 00:10:28.519 fast Lane is uh, you know, part two of Shinska and Seth, 144 00:10:28.840 --> 00:10:31.759 a program that perhaps maybe we looked at and said, yeah, there's a 145 00:10:31.799 --> 00:10:35.039 one off, we'll go to somebody else in fast Lane. But now they 146 00:10:35.039 --> 00:10:37.720 have a true opponent in Shinska, and people want more of him. And 147 00:10:37.919 --> 00:10:41.440 you know what, even when Shinsky gets away from Seth and I still don't 148 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:46.240 think there's any chance to win. But even when he gets away from Seth, 149 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:48.679 I hope they don't just put him back into mid level obscurity. I 150 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:52.720 hope they continue to build on this whatever this is. This anime version, 151 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:58.639 this subtitle version of Shinsky is just awesome, and I hope that they don't 152 00:10:58.720 --> 00:11:03.080 just shove him to the side and back to the you know, back of 153 00:11:03.120 --> 00:11:05.799 the line. Pal, thanks for your contributions. I hope they do something 154 00:11:05.799 --> 00:11:09.240 with this for Shinskay and it just doesn't go back to where he was. 155 00:11:11.720 --> 00:11:15.559 Do you think that he could actually be a future world champion or do you 156 00:11:15.559 --> 00:11:20.039 think you'll always just flirt with being like a like a maybe like a tweeter. 157 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:24.799 He would have to be consistently this good and intriguing for WWE management to 158 00:11:24.799 --> 00:11:28.519 be more convinced. I think that they're looking at this as like, all 159 00:11:28.559 --> 00:11:31.799 right, we caught lightning in a bottle here, but is this late lightning 160 00:11:31.840 --> 00:11:35.039 sustainable? And if it is, down the line when sets run is a 161 00:11:35.039 --> 00:11:39.360 little bit deeper and longer, and you could say, Okay, he's been 162 00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:41.919 champion now for a while, which, by the way, it's been over 163 00:11:41.960 --> 00:11:46.480 one hundred days, you know, which is short in comparison to Roman everything 164 00:11:46.559 --> 00:11:50.639 is, but down the line maybe and if he doesn't, you know, 165 00:11:50.080 --> 00:11:54.519 a year from now, if if Seth is still champion and Shinska is coming 166 00:11:54.559 --> 00:11:58.919 back around here, sure, but not in the short term. I think 167 00:11:58.960 --> 00:12:01.840 their their eyes was now set on Survivor Series and then Rumble and Mania. 168 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:07.840 They probably aren't going to do it unless things explode, so I doubt it. 169 00:12:09.320 --> 00:12:13.039 The only other thing I want to touch on backlash wise, and then 170 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:18.519 we'll get to cempunk well actually quickly. I wanted to say I really liked 171 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:22.919 Rhea and Roquel, and I'm not a massive Raquel fan, but like, 172 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:26.679 maybe it was just the visual, but it felt like a legit fight, 173 00:12:26.799 --> 00:12:31.399 did it not because of the stature both women. Maybe that's why. And 174 00:12:31.600 --> 00:12:35.919 I gave it a less than less than positive review. I wasn't super down 175 00:12:35.960 --> 00:12:39.320 on it, but it felt clunky at first. I mean, there were 176 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:43.519 a lot of weird missed botch spots that kind of took me out of the 177 00:12:43.559 --> 00:12:46.039 moment, and that happens, but it felt like they just haven't got enough 178 00:12:46.039 --> 00:12:48.879 minutes with each other in front of a live crowd, and things will improve 179 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:54.120 as they work more together. And so I wasn't as high on the match, 180 00:12:54.240 --> 00:12:56.840 but maybe that's because, like you said, it didn't feel like a 181 00:12:56.919 --> 00:13:00.799 polished wrestling match. It felt like power for power, which was the story. 182 00:13:01.200 --> 00:13:03.639 But it felt, you know, again clunky, but also like a 183 00:13:03.679 --> 00:13:09.120 real, more realistic fight. Yes, I would agree with that, and 184 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:16.000 I will say I wanted to give Miss some flowers because I think the Miss 185 00:13:16.120 --> 00:13:20.919 is a guy that is actually really talented, and most of our gripes with 186 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:26.120 him is booking related. As opposed to his actual ability as a wrestler. 187 00:13:26.600 --> 00:13:30.200 And I do think that he did a hell of a job with John Cena 188 00:13:30.320 --> 00:13:33.080 and La night in that match. And I just think that that entire match 189 00:13:33.159 --> 00:13:37.399 with John Cena adding to it kind of putting La Night over, was really 190 00:13:37.399 --> 00:13:41.440 well done. But in classic, you know, current state fashion, I 191 00:13:41.519 --> 00:13:46.679 have to take a few shots of Cody Rhodes. Is he the gem of 192 00:13:46.840 --> 00:13:50.840 Raw? Did I miss something? Is Cody Rhodes now the general manager Monday 193 00:13:50.919 --> 00:13:56.879 Night Raw? Yeah? He now is not only endorsing endorsing people, he 194 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:05.600 is now cashing in his political chips to make people get people traded to the 195 00:14:05.639 --> 00:14:09.399 opposing brand. And how this really is supposed to improve his career, I 196 00:14:09.399 --> 00:14:13.840 have no idea. It was just a move to endear him further to the 197 00:14:13.840 --> 00:14:18.600 crowd, which is just ridiculous. I have completely, and really, thanks 198 00:14:18.639 --> 00:14:22.679 to your shove, I have completely turned on his baby face character. I 199 00:14:22.759 --> 00:14:24.440 gave it a shot, I gave it a try, and I have, 200 00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:30.799 as I mentioned last time I payback review, I have jumped off the train. 201 00:14:30.919 --> 00:14:33.759 I have tuck and rolled and I'm bruising battered. But I'm off. 202 00:14:33.960 --> 00:14:41.399 I'm off. Why does he have to have his grubby paws and everything, 203 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:46.240 like, yes, he had that program with Brock Lesner. It was a 204 00:14:46.279 --> 00:14:48.600 good program. Even though I hate Cody, it was a good program. 205 00:14:48.679 --> 00:14:54.159 It paid off well. The match at SummerSlam was actually pretty good. Brock 206 00:14:54.240 --> 00:14:58.639 does the cool putting him over thing all that great, but it feels like 207 00:14:58.720 --> 00:15:05.159 he doesn't really have anything going on of his own, and he's just sticking 208 00:15:05.240 --> 00:15:11.559 his grubby, greedy little uh Like he has to touch everything, he has 209 00:15:11.600 --> 00:15:15.919 to be the spokesperson for everything. He has to be the one to give 210 00:15:16.000 --> 00:15:20.840 his two sense on everything, and now he's making decisions for the brand and 211 00:15:20.919 --> 00:15:24.399 even him like as him and like Jay usso like cross Paths. Before Jay 212 00:15:24.440 --> 00:15:28.440 gets in the ring, we're just like, I hope we know what we're 213 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:33.120 doing, Like who's we? Who are you speaking on behalf of? Why 214 00:15:33.159 --> 00:15:37.240 are you bringing him the Monday Night Raw? Why were you the one lobbying 215 00:15:37.279 --> 00:15:41.399 for him? Like shouldn't of wwwe been like man like we like Jay's a 216 00:15:41.399 --> 00:15:43.720 good asset, Like we can't let him leave, Like if he doesn't want 217 00:15:43.720 --> 00:15:48.240 to go stay on SmackDown, We'll just go to Raw. Like remember when 218 00:15:48.360 --> 00:15:52.759 ray Masterio asked Triple H to let him out of his contract last year because 219 00:15:52.759 --> 00:15:56.279 he wanted to get away from Dominic and Triple H brought him into his office 220 00:15:56.320 --> 00:15:58.120 and said, look, I'll just bring you over to SmackDown you know, 221 00:15:58.320 --> 00:16:03.679 a lodgic cool thing. But no, now we have to have Cody Rhodes 222 00:16:03.759 --> 00:16:07.759 be the guy who pulls strings. Why does it take pulling of strings to 223 00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:11.360 get jausso on Monday night? Raw? Yeah? Like he shouldn't mean yet, 224 00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:15.279 right. Management should be worried about this. Why does Cody have any 225 00:16:15.360 --> 00:16:18.919 vested interest in this? There's nothing that would be advantageous for him other than 226 00:16:18.960 --> 00:16:23.279 to endear him further to the crowd. That's it. Because Juso is super 227 00:16:23.360 --> 00:16:27.159 over coming off of the program with his brother, which I'm actually glad they're 228 00:16:27.159 --> 00:16:30.399 on separate brands. Hopefully it stays that way. I don't see. I'm 229 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:34.200 really not interested in Jimmy versus Jay right now, and we all need a 230 00:16:34.240 --> 00:16:37.440 break from that story anyway. So it's good, it's I think it's a 231 00:16:37.600 --> 00:16:42.919 it's the right move. But to put this put this award on Cody being 232 00:16:42.960 --> 00:16:48.720 the reason that he came over is just it's it's nonsensical. Again, Why 233 00:16:48.840 --> 00:16:52.559 is a wrestler cashing in his political chips to bring Jay over a guy that 234 00:16:52.600 --> 00:16:56.919 he was just battling in the bloodline. It doesn't doesn't give him any kind 235 00:16:56.960 --> 00:17:02.279 of advantage at any level. Really, Uh? And what what what political 236 00:17:02.320 --> 00:17:04.839 stroke are we talking about with Triple H, Like, cashing in your political 237 00:17:04.960 --> 00:17:10.559 chips for for what? And then you like you said management should be the 238 00:17:10.559 --> 00:17:14.720 one Adam Pierce at least in stories, should be the one concerned about this 239 00:17:14.799 --> 00:17:18.279 stuff. Why is Cody concerning himself with this stuff? And then of course 240 00:17:18.519 --> 00:17:25.039 you get his stupid half ass smile talking to the Pittsburgh crowd and Grayson Waller, 241 00:17:25.119 --> 00:17:27.160 thank god cut him off. No, no, he's like that. 242 00:17:27.240 --> 00:17:30.160 Yeah, I'm like thank you, Like I'm just like yeah, and all 243 00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:32.640 everyone bowed. I'm just like, no, no, no, no, 244 00:17:32.759 --> 00:17:37.119 no, you just saved us all from his just self incessant need to mention 245 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:41.359 the name of a city to ask a question that can't be answered by a 246 00:17:41.440 --> 00:17:47.160 large audience. I just I'm done. It just it makes no sense. 247 00:17:47.240 --> 00:17:51.759 And it's just like, so what scares the living you know what out of 248 00:17:51.839 --> 00:17:56.200 me, to be quite honest with you, is this is them slowly starting 249 00:17:56.240 --> 00:18:00.720 to plant the seeds for Cody Roman two. Yep. If I'm being perfectly 250 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:03.960 honest, maybe that's why I pissed me off subconsciously to the extent that it 251 00:18:04.000 --> 00:18:07.440 did, because I'm just like, oh my god, they're gonna do it 252 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:10.880 again. He's gonna win the Rumble again, and he's gonna challenge Roman again, 253 00:18:10.920 --> 00:18:14.839 and then he's gonna win. Which is why I always hate the rematch 254 00:18:15.400 --> 00:18:18.839 at WrestleMania, especially in a back to back fashion, because you know that 255 00:18:19.039 --> 00:18:22.799 nine times out of ten, the guy is gonna you know, even the 256 00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:27.119 odds. Now, obviously there's there's exceptions, specifically Sean versus Undertaker and Triple 257 00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:30.920 H versus Undertaker, but I always just think back to Rock Sina, Like 258 00:18:32.039 --> 00:18:34.200 you knew going into wrestle My twenty nine that Sina was being the Rock, 259 00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:40.039 and I hate it when it's that obvious. But anyway, it's just I 260 00:18:40.079 --> 00:18:41.400 don't know what they're trying to do with Cody, and again, look, 261 00:18:41.480 --> 00:18:48.559 I understand that we are in the minority by a long shot, and everyone 262 00:18:48.680 --> 00:18:52.440 has a raging heart on for this guy. Pardon my language. I don't 263 00:18:52.480 --> 00:18:57.160 get it, but I've accepted it begrudgingly. But he is the most pompous, 264 00:18:57.279 --> 00:19:03.640 self absorbed a hole I've ever seen on WW television who wasn't meant to 265 00:19:03.680 --> 00:19:07.599 be that. I've seen pomp as a holes before I have. You know, 266 00:19:07.680 --> 00:19:10.799 Randy Orton was kind of like that Triple H had a run like that, 267 00:19:11.240 --> 00:19:14.359 like you kind of see it even with like Grayson Waller. But I 268 00:19:14.359 --> 00:19:17.799 mean, I just I don't get why people love him so much. There's 269 00:19:17.839 --> 00:19:22.440 a part of me that thinks WW is pushing him to the extent just to 270 00:19:22.519 --> 00:19:26.920 dig a dagger into a w which we could get to as well. But 271 00:19:26.759 --> 00:19:30.599 I don't get it, Like I don't understand it. I don't understand. 272 00:19:32.039 --> 00:19:34.880 Again, this isn't me saying that I hate Cody Rhodes as a wrestler. 273 00:19:36.160 --> 00:19:38.960 Like if he was just even in the same exact character but just like in 274 00:19:40.000 --> 00:19:42.680 the upper mid card, I would I wouldn't care. I would be like, 275 00:19:42.880 --> 00:19:47.440 he's not my cup of tea. But you know he's in the upper 276 00:19:47.440 --> 00:19:52.200 mid card. He's not shoved down our throats. For everyone who Okay, 277 00:19:52.720 --> 00:19:57.799 shots all over John Cena for a decade, I came close there, who 278 00:19:57.880 --> 00:20:02.240 shot over John c over a decade? For being shoved down our throats? 279 00:20:02.960 --> 00:20:07.119 Cody Rhodes is worse than John right now because he's also condensed into a much 280 00:20:07.119 --> 00:20:11.079 shorter time frame. Like Cody, Rhodes came back, didn't lose a match, 281 00:20:11.400 --> 00:20:15.880 came back after he was injured, number thirty wins the Rumble, nearly 282 00:20:15.880 --> 00:20:18.519 won the main event of WrestleMania, and almost never loses matches. I know 283 00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:22.039 he lost one to Brock, but he eventually won the program. So yeah, 284 00:20:22.119 --> 00:20:27.160 he's he's essentially undefeated in programs. And you're right, he is this 285 00:20:27.240 --> 00:20:33.480 pompous a hole that's it's masked and deodorized with smiles and suits, in bleach 286 00:20:33.559 --> 00:20:38.519 blonde hair and catch phrases and sing along music. It can be masked. 287 00:20:38.599 --> 00:20:42.920 But you and I and probably others out there are seeing through this crap. 288 00:20:44.160 --> 00:20:48.119 And again, this is just a knocks. It's a massive knock on his 289 00:20:48.200 --> 00:20:52.960 baby face character. But looking at all these things, we would be saying 290 00:20:52.960 --> 00:20:56.519 the exact opposite and complimenting him if he were a heel. So I don't 291 00:20:56.519 --> 00:21:03.200 know about I see no in my crystal ball looking forward in the next six 292 00:21:03.279 --> 00:21:07.920 to twelve months, I see no possibility of them turning him. He'll do 293 00:21:07.960 --> 00:21:11.799 you, oh, zero percent. And that's another thing that enrages me and 294 00:21:11.920 --> 00:21:17.200 pisses off every bone in my body is that they are positioning him to be 295 00:21:17.440 --> 00:21:21.960 the face of the company. That's what they want. And even just a 296 00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:26.599 little thing as when they had the tribute to Bray Wyatt on SmackDown and Terry 297 00:21:26.599 --> 00:21:30.720 Funk where he was standing right beside Triple Age, and it's like that is 298 00:21:30.799 --> 00:21:36.160 where they view Cody Rhodes. They view him as the top baby face, 299 00:21:36.759 --> 00:21:41.119 the guy, the ambassador, like to be honest in a lot of ways, 300 00:21:41.240 --> 00:21:45.759 Like it feels like he's kind of becoming the successor to Roman Ratings already, 301 00:21:45.799 --> 00:21:48.680 Like he's taking the place of Roman, and Roman is slowly taking the 302 00:21:48.680 --> 00:21:53.200 place of Brock. Like that's kind of how this is going for me. 303 00:21:53.359 --> 00:21:59.039 Like, and I just I don't know how old Cody Rhodes is. I 304 00:21:59.079 --> 00:22:03.559 want to see he's probably in his late thirties. Yeah, so, I 305 00:22:03.559 --> 00:22:08.799 mean I don't He doesn't strike me as a guy that you could build around, 306 00:22:08.880 --> 00:22:11.720 Like how many more years could he possibly go at this level? And 307 00:22:11.759 --> 00:22:17.039 he's a damn good wrestler. It's just yeah, I really like Cody Rhodes 308 00:22:17.079 --> 00:22:18.960 as a wrestler. I think he's a good promo, even if I don't 309 00:22:19.000 --> 00:22:22.160 like the content, like I stuff to give the guys flowers. He's a 310 00:22:22.240 --> 00:22:29.039 really coveted asset. But it's just I don't like how they're forcing him to 311 00:22:29.119 --> 00:22:33.200 be something he isn't like it is okay for him to be at like a 312 00:22:33.359 --> 00:22:37.480 Drew McIntyre level or a shame Iss type of level. But I'll be honest 313 00:22:37.480 --> 00:22:42.440 with you, like, I think that Drew McIntyre is a much more coveted 314 00:22:42.480 --> 00:22:47.839 asset than Cody Rhodes is. In my opinion, I think him at Drew 315 00:22:47.880 --> 00:22:52.440 McIntyre, had it not been for COVID, probably would have exploded as a 316 00:22:52.480 --> 00:22:59.240 guy on tier with with uh like maybe not close to Roman reigns, or 317 00:22:59.440 --> 00:23:03.480 maybe not Roman reigns, but maybe close to it. I just don't get 318 00:23:03.640 --> 00:23:07.920 why they've like landed on this obsession where he has to be like this over 319 00:23:08.000 --> 00:23:14.119 the top, holier than Thou above everyone saved for Roman type of guy. 320 00:23:14.160 --> 00:23:18.680 I just don't think he's that. I think he made an astute point there 321 00:23:18.799 --> 00:23:23.079 where he feels like he feels I'm paraphrasing what you said, but he's a 322 00:23:23.160 --> 00:23:26.799 spokesperson for the company. He's an ambassador for the company. He's like he's 323 00:23:26.839 --> 00:23:33.519 like a white version of Titus O'Neill, except he's actually wrestling regularly. Like 324 00:23:33.599 --> 00:23:38.880 he feels like he's a spokesperson that cuts company approved promos but occasionally wrestles a 325 00:23:38.920 --> 00:23:44.480 match. He doesn't feel like this, like this kind of organic pro wrestling, 326 00:23:45.079 --> 00:23:48.839 pro wrestler that's super easy to relate to. He just feels like he 327 00:23:48.960 --> 00:23:52.160 was cut from management, and you know, especially with his suits and everything 328 00:23:52.160 --> 00:23:56.119 else, and he's so he's so just self aware when he's talking. It's 329 00:23:56.160 --> 00:24:00.640 obnoxious. I'm actually, while I agree he's a good promo, the way 330 00:24:00.640 --> 00:24:06.079 he cuts promos, this cadence, all of this stupid smile. I want 331 00:24:06.079 --> 00:24:10.400 to see someone knock his teeth. I mean, I just I don't want 332 00:24:10.400 --> 00:24:12.799 more to say about it other than I agree. I do think they're grooming 333 00:24:12.880 --> 00:24:18.440 him to face Roman Reigns at WrestleMania, if, of course Dwayne isn't there. 334 00:24:18.720 --> 00:24:22.000 I mean, Dwayne obviously trumps everything, but all right, well before 335 00:24:22.119 --> 00:24:26.680 we get to see him, punk get any closing thoughts on Cody or Payback 336 00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:32.039 in general. I would just I'm gonna leave Cody, But no, I 337 00:24:32.079 --> 00:24:33.920 think that it did exactly what it had to do the pay per view. 338 00:24:33.920 --> 00:24:38.480 That is, I think it advanced storylines. It advanced some wrestlers and La 339 00:24:38.599 --> 00:24:42.960 Knight specifically, it told more of a story with seth Rons and his back. 340 00:24:44.400 --> 00:24:45.839 I think that it did everything that you would have hoped it to do 341 00:24:45.920 --> 00:24:49.599 in a perfect world. All right, well then we're going to transition to 342 00:24:49.599 --> 00:24:53.519 see Him Punk the news of the day, which I mean we we got 343 00:24:53.559 --> 00:25:00.759 notified a day or two ago about Tony Kahn releasing Phil Brooks see Him Punk 344 00:25:00.240 --> 00:25:07.680 from aw for cause he announced it, and which was you know, bad 345 00:25:07.720 --> 00:25:11.359 timing considering that they're all in event. Was in Chicago when he got fired 346 00:25:11.400 --> 00:25:15.240 before the event, so quite an interesting timing. Obviously, this is not 347 00:25:15.319 --> 00:25:18.400 part of a story. This is real. He got fired. We've heard 348 00:25:18.440 --> 00:25:23.440 about the incident with Jack Perry and he confronted Phil Brooks Sampunk. He confronted 349 00:25:23.480 --> 00:25:27.200 him and the two got into a scuffle. And you know, Jack Perry 350 00:25:27.240 --> 00:25:33.079 also has been suspended indefinitely, so there is some fault not just on Sampunks 351 00:25:33.119 --> 00:25:36.759 them, but of course on Jack Perry that you know, we obviously none 352 00:25:36.799 --> 00:25:38.880 of us were there to see it. But there's always two sides to every 353 00:25:38.880 --> 00:25:42.440 story, and you can't. As much as I don't like Sampunk behind the 354 00:25:42.480 --> 00:25:45.960 scenes and things I've heard and things he's done on camera, I think Jack 355 00:25:47.000 --> 00:25:52.279 Perry is still partially you know, even maybe majority of majority of ly responsible 356 00:25:52.319 --> 00:25:56.839 for this. Either way, this is not good for Sampunk's resume. Doesn't 357 00:25:56.839 --> 00:26:02.480 exactly his history doesn't help him. Everything he's done on camera with Tony Khan 358 00:26:03.160 --> 00:26:04.759 what was a year or a year and a half ago or whatever it was. 359 00:26:04.839 --> 00:26:10.240 And he's sitting there chewing down or shoving down at cheeseburger and acting like 360 00:26:10.240 --> 00:26:14.160 a fool and embarrassing the company. Uh, And I look, I'm an 361 00:26:14.200 --> 00:26:18.279 see him punk fan to the from the perspective of I respect what he's done. 362 00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:22.480 I was excited when he returned, but not a good look as to 363 00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:26.920 what he's done for the company. And he, you know, bad mouthed 364 00:26:26.480 --> 00:26:30.319 the the company, saying I hate it here and all this stuff that you 365 00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:33.759 just don't do, man, you just you just you don't do that because 366 00:26:33.839 --> 00:26:40.440 guess what, it doesn't exactly look at make your employer future employers look at 367 00:26:40.519 --> 00:26:42.519 you with envy and make them want you because they're gonna say, well, 368 00:26:42.519 --> 00:26:47.880 they're gonna do the same thing to me, and so I'll stop there, 369 00:26:47.920 --> 00:26:52.000 but I don't know what your thoughts on on the incident with the AW. 370 00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:59.799 I'll preface this by saying that I think AW the way it's run is very 371 00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:03.519 ash league. I think that, and I think Jim Cornette has said this 372 00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:07.079 a bunch of times. It's run by a super fan who also happens to 373 00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:11.599 be a billionaire or his dad's a billionaire, and it's like he's playing live 374 00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:17.039 with his action figures now. And just the fact that Tony Khn is like 375 00:27:17.119 --> 00:27:22.279 the the owner, CEO and GM like just has nobody else in a prominent 376 00:27:22.319 --> 00:27:26.240 position kind of kind of like it kind of speaks to that. And I 377 00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:30.000 guess you could point to like that was Vince McMahon for thirty odd years or 378 00:27:30.039 --> 00:27:36.160 whatever, but like Vince also started as a ring announcer and grinded his way 379 00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:38.759 to where he was, like Tony Kahn just pretty much had everything handed to 380 00:27:38.839 --> 00:27:44.839 him. So I do think that there are a lot of problems in a 381 00:27:44.920 --> 00:27:49.200 EW, and that it is it's kind of like the inmates run the asylum 382 00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:53.559 there and it is just a glorified indie show for like a bunch of indie 383 00:27:53.559 --> 00:27:59.880 friends to do there like to have fun with each other. At that same 384 00:28:00.279 --> 00:28:07.559 time, you have veteran wrestlers like Daniel Bryan making it work there, Staying 385 00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:12.039 making it work there, John Moxley making it work there. You know, 386 00:28:12.079 --> 00:28:18.440 William Regal was making it work there. You have like a true superstar in 387 00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:23.319 MJF making it work there. So even though there are a lot of inherent 388 00:28:23.559 --> 00:28:29.880 problems with the company and a lot of house cleaning that Tony Khan needs to 389 00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:33.759 do on his part, and I don't think that he really does a good 390 00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:37.480 job of reigning stuff in there, just based on things I read about it 391 00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:41.119 about the company, Like I don't watch AW It's not my cup of team. 392 00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:44.480 I'm not a fan of the wrestling style. That doesn't make it bad, 393 00:28:44.519 --> 00:28:48.640 it's just not for me. I think what CM punk has done to 394 00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:55.559 his own image over the last twelve months is it's kind of tarnished his reputation 395 00:28:56.720 --> 00:29:03.680 and it's kind of made people go back and reevaluate what happened in WWE, 396 00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:07.480 you know, nine and a half years ago or whenever it was in early 397 00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:11.880 twenty fourteen, and when you really think about it, like he wrestles in 398 00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:17.759 the Royal Rumble and then just walks out. Like when you really break it 399 00:29:17.799 --> 00:29:19.480 down, it's like, who the bleep does this guy think he is. 400 00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:25.279 And that's not to say that everything in WWE is perfect, certainly not. 401 00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:30.640 At that time, like early twenty fourteen was arguably like the peak of like 402 00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:34.319 Vince just refusing to give the fans what they want, where you know, 403 00:29:34.400 --> 00:29:40.960 he had a returning Batista when the Rumble and pressing down the Yes movement and 404 00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:45.200 all that. And look, we've seen people be not happy with the company 405 00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:48.240 and then when their contract expires they say, you know what, you know, 406 00:29:48.680 --> 00:29:52.119 I want to do something else. We saw dang O Brian do it. 407 00:29:52.119 --> 00:29:56.559 We saw Dana Ambrose do it. Cesarro walked away like it's not a 408 00:29:56.640 --> 00:30:00.279 foreign concept, nor does it make you wrong for just, you know, 409 00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:06.000 wanting something else. But the way CM punk kind of went about it in 410 00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:10.680 terms of walking out the night of Monday Night Raw after the Royal Rumble, 411 00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:15.279 you know, insulting Triple H on the way out, going on Cold Cabana's 412 00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:21.000 podcast and ripping the company like he always kind of came off bitter. But 413 00:30:21.119 --> 00:30:26.039 people were so infatuated with the twenty twelve version of cmpunk and the recency bias 414 00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:30.599 that that's the punk they remembered and they just always sided with him. Not 415 00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:34.200 to mention Vince mcmahn didn't really hold a lot of benefit of the debt with 416 00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:38.640 the crowd or with the fan base. But after he pulled the stunt last 417 00:30:38.680 --> 00:30:42.759 year where he was eating burgers or muffins or whatever, and he he was 418 00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:45.880 just like, I'm old, I'm beat up. I worked with children. 419 00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:52.319 And then he comes back and you know he's not in the best ring shape. 420 00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:56.160 You see that he's losing it a bit, but he's still acting all 421 00:30:56.200 --> 00:31:00.599 wholier than thou. You hear how he reacts to like and even if Jack 422 00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:06.279 Perry said something that was offside, which it surely was the case as he 423 00:31:06.359 --> 00:31:11.440 was suspended as well, and surely the elite did do some things bad on 424 00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:15.759 their own part as well. He just doesn't handle himself as a professional. 425 00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:19.240 He thinks his you know what, doesn't sting. He thinks he's better than 426 00:31:19.279 --> 00:31:23.759 everyone. He always thinks he's right, and at this point, it's just 427 00:31:23.799 --> 00:31:26.640 like, dude, you're just not as good as you think you are. 428 00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:33.079 The reason why you everyone thought you were that good was because you had an 429 00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:38.599 amazing twenty four months, twenty four month long stretch and then you walked away 430 00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:42.440 and we never got to sell you again. And that was just the version 431 00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:48.599 that people perpetually played over in their heads for the seven or eight years that 432 00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:55.319 you weren't on wrestling television. And I just think that he has an inflated 433 00:31:55.400 --> 00:31:59.559 ego. And because he disappeared for seven years, I know, I'm rambling 434 00:31:59.559 --> 00:32:05.119 here, ping it up, he just grew himself into a bigger phenomenon than 435 00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:09.279 he was. Actually, if you take away the pipe bomb in Vegas, 436 00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:15.039 the infamous pipe bomb and that never happened, what is CM Punk's legacy. 437 00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:17.400 I mean, like you, you look at what he's done in w W 438 00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:21.720 E, and he lived off of that for a long time, and he 439 00:32:21.799 --> 00:32:27.680 brought a lot of that into a w and the fans gave him a massive 440 00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:30.119 poppy. It's one of the biggest pops I've ever heard in my life. 441 00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:32.000 And you know what, I was excited too. It was a pop that 442 00:32:32.079 --> 00:32:37.240 gives you chills because people never thought he would return to pro wrestling. He 443 00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:39.279 finally does, but then he, you know, he went on a tirade 444 00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:44.759 of you know, insulting the company and saying that basically he didn't wrestle, 445 00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:49.160 you know, in w w E. He blanked that out of his career, 446 00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:52.599 like he doesn't consider that pro wrestling and all that. He is kenned 447 00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:59.640 WWE so many times publicly, so I don't see to answer the question that 448 00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:05.640 ultimate everyone's asking and pondering, does he return to w w E. If 449 00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:09.240 I was WWE, I understand the crowd would go crazy. Oh my god. 450 00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:14.680 And I believe saira series is in Chicago, I think, I think, 451 00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:19.200 and there's some that I've tweeted this out. There is a poster going 452 00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:23.119 around, fan made but still of Roman Reigns versus CM Punk and oh my 453 00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:28.319 god, imagine this, and it's if it's in Chicago. I understand the 454 00:33:28.359 --> 00:33:32.720 allure of it. But honestly, I mean, I don't need seem punk 455 00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:36.839 back. If they want to do a Hall of Fame for him, fine, 456 00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:38.960 you know, somewhere down the line, but seampunk. If he came 457 00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:43.880 back, if I'm Punk, I would feel like I'm betraying myself and everything 458 00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:46.440 I've said over the last ten years. I would feel like I'm a sellout. 459 00:33:47.319 --> 00:33:51.519 So he'd kind of have to swallow his pride a bit to go back. 460 00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:55.359 If I'm wwe. I'm sitting there going okay. He just embarrassed the 461 00:33:55.400 --> 00:34:00.839 company that's paying him hefty amounts of money to be there. He's not acting, 462 00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:06.039 as you said, like a professional. He's embarrassing us. He is 463 00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:09.719 cancerous in the locker room and even seth rollins. I don't know if you've 464 00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:14.119 heard that interview recently over the last it was like six months or so, 465 00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:16.920 where someone asked him, would you like to see Punk back? And he 466 00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:20.840 said, no, Phil, stay where you are. You're a cancer. 467 00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:23.440 He basically called Phil Brooks a cancer in the locker room and we don't want 468 00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:28.000 you anywhere near here. And he was serious. You know, there's not 469 00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:30.320 a whole lot of love back there for wanting Punk back. So you have 470 00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:32.960 to understand that if your WWB two is okay, if you can get over 471 00:34:34.039 --> 00:34:37.719 the fact that he embarrassed the company he's working for, do we want him 472 00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:40.039 in the locker room? Is he going to be a cancer in the locker 473 00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:44.599 room where he's proven to be in the company he just got fired by. 474 00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:49.079 So it's you know, I understand that it may bring in money. Sure, 475 00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:52.039 is it going to bring in a bunch of money? Probably it will 476 00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:55.960 fans go crazy all of that, you know, but do you really what's 477 00:34:57.000 --> 00:35:01.039 it worth? Is it worth causing drama a backstage? Is it worth potentially 478 00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:05.199 having him embarrassed the company? And is it also a good look at all? 479 00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:08.280 Is it a good optic to hire a guy that just got fired from 480 00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:14.119 a company because he was he was acting like a non professional. So I 481 00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:20.400 don't know your thoughts. I think WWE would do it just because what's best 482 00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:25.880 for business. And I do think WWE and Vince Mcmahonmoir specifically has a it's 483 00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:30.079 kind of like an ego thing for guys to come crawling back. And there's 484 00:35:30.199 --> 00:35:37.320 always the ones who crawled back, like the nWo came back with Razor Diesel 485 00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:43.519 and Hogan, Brett Hart came back, Warrior came back, Sam Martino comes 486 00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:49.800 back like and cm punk would be a good get and I would watch it. 487 00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:52.360 I want to see what it was. And I do think and you've 488 00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:55.360 heard some now things like rumblings of well, remember when he was at Monday 489 00:35:55.440 --> 00:36:00.079 Night Raw a few months ago, and people have said that, like, 490 00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:04.119 you know, he was open to returning at the Rumble last year and wanted 491 00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:08.440 out of his aw contract and maybe there's a part of cmpunk that after going 492 00:36:08.519 --> 00:36:13.800 to a EW realize like man, you know, like the creative wasn't great 493 00:36:14.519 --> 00:36:16.039 over there a law of the time. And you know, I think everyone 494 00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:22.400 could agree that Vince McMahon has been detached from creative for probably over a decade 495 00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:25.519 at this point, but in terms of what the fans want, but it's 496 00:36:25.599 --> 00:36:30.400 not a bush league operation, and I think we could all agree even if 497 00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:35.960 people don't like the creative direction of WWW, it has never been a bush 498 00:36:36.039 --> 00:36:38.760 league operation, or hasn't been for well over two and a half decades. 499 00:36:39.599 --> 00:36:45.159 So maybe for him, he just wanted to Maybe for him rather it just 500 00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:49.800 took being on the other side of the fence and realizing that the green the 501 00:36:49.880 --> 00:36:54.280 grass isn't always greener to want to go back to WWE. And I don't 502 00:36:54.360 --> 00:36:58.880 think that you could ever make him like a main eventor nor do I think 503 00:36:58.880 --> 00:37:04.920 he should be. Like you know, AW basically brought him in and made 504 00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:08.000 him the face of that company, and it was only when he got suspended 505 00:37:08.079 --> 00:37:14.599 last year that they kind of put MJF in that role and that was a 506 00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:19.119 damn you know, blessing in disguise if you ask me. But they really 507 00:37:19.199 --> 00:37:22.360 just kind of shoved CM punk right to the face of right to being the 508 00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:27.559 face of that company. And I don't think WWE would be in that spot 509 00:37:27.599 --> 00:37:30.119 at all. Like I don't even know like where you would rank seem Punk, 510 00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:32.519 Like he wouldn't be ahead of Cody, he wouldn't be ahead of Roman, 511 00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:37.000 he wouldn't be ahead of seth Rawlins. I mean even after that, 512 00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:42.320 like you have some of the younger guys like Damian Priest, who obviously is 513 00:37:42.360 --> 00:37:45.639 gonna get a major push soon. You see what La Knight is doing, 514 00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:50.840 Austin Theory, Grace and Waller, they obviously have big plans ahead of them. 515 00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:53.280 Like I think that you would probably have CM punk kind of fall into 516 00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:58.880 that AJ style Shamus category. And if he was willing to take that, 517 00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:00.960 and I don't know how he could be willing to ask for more after the 518 00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:07.760 stunt he just pulled an aew If he wants to come back into professional wrestling 519 00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:10.519 and he's willing to take that spot, I don't think it would be that 520 00:38:10.559 --> 00:38:14.679 big of a deal. Because the other thing is is that even if he 521 00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:20.400 did try to embarrass the company, WWE wouldn't promote him as the you know, 522 00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:24.079 the overarching face of it, like he embarrassed the company first and foremost 523 00:38:24.119 --> 00:38:29.920 because he did it sitting beside the owner Tony Kahn and Tony Khan, I 524 00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:35.159 hate to say it, clearly doesn't have a strong backbone. He let him 525 00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:39.400 disgrace the company while sitting right there. He's clearly pushed around by his talent. 526 00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:43.679 I don't think, for instance, I don't think that you would ever 527 00:38:43.719 --> 00:38:47.519 see se him punk cutting a press conference sitting beside Triple Ah, And you 528 00:38:47.559 --> 00:38:52.800 could bet your damn dollar that he would never cut anything remotely close to that 529 00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:57.039 with striple age sitting right there. So I don't think that there'd be a 530 00:38:57.079 --> 00:39:00.960 major risk for WWE. I think it would just have to be understood, 531 00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:04.559 like if you're coming back, you're coming back in like the mid card Max. 532 00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:10.639 They Yeah, Look, that's probably the strongest case you could make for 533 00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:15.559 him to return, is that w W you know you you act, you 534 00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:17.079 act like a fool, You're gone, Like there's no you know, you 535 00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:22.280 embarrass us, You're gone, no question to ask CEA and w W. 536 00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:25.199 You're right. They actually have much more of a spine than Tony Kan. 537 00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:28.559 Tony Khan comes off. I mean like Honestly, I don't know what he's 538 00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:30.360 like in real life, but he comes off on camera, especially when he 539 00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:34.360 has talent there, like he is, you know, just kind of this 540 00:39:34.519 --> 00:39:37.440 little, this little shell of a man like he for all his money, 541 00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:43.480 he certainly is you know, missing a set okay, like he's got all 542 00:39:43.519 --> 00:39:46.199 the dollars but no no set. Like that's what it feels like with Tony 543 00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:51.559 And you know, I just again, I don't know him personally obviously, 544 00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:54.000 but that's the feeling I get. And uh with see him Punky. You 545 00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:58.639 know the problem with that though, is if you put him in the mid 546 00:39:58.639 --> 00:40:00.519 card, the fan is gonna be like, well, why him back at 547 00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:02.159 all? Like if you're just gonna stick him in the mid card to fight 548 00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:06.960 for an IC or US title, like, well, why even bring him 549 00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:08.280 back? He's not gonna be a full time guy. He's a guy that 550 00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:14.519 you would use as you know, kind of a main event guy for you 551 00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:17.079 know, a pay per viewer two every six months, and you know he's 552 00:40:17.119 --> 00:40:21.360 probably not gonna go on any major title runs, but it would be a 553 00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:23.679 massive draw, buzz everywhere. Oh my god, sa him punks back in 554 00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:29.920 WWE after ten years nearly so there's a lot of money to be had there. 555 00:40:29.960 --> 00:40:32.039 But I don't know if fans. Fans would be like, oh cool, 556 00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:36.159 he's back. He's gonna face Roman, He's gonna face Seth. Imagine 557 00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:38.039 the promos and then they stick him with like ricochet, you know. I 558 00:40:38.119 --> 00:40:42.440 mean, like I it's probably not what they do. If you're gonna go 559 00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:45.719 and bring him back, that's a big move. You're not maximizing your dollars 560 00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:49.960 there, You're kind of And if I were Punk too, I'd be like, 561 00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:52.519 you're really you're gonna You're gonna put me here, you know, so 562 00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:57.480 you're either doing it all in no pun intended or you're not. And I 563 00:40:57.519 --> 00:41:00.280 would you know, while the promos between Roman and Punk would be a lot 564 00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:05.000 of fun, given everything that he has said about Roman over the years, 565 00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:09.239 and how not super negative, but how he was told make Roman look strong, 566 00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:13.760 make Roman look good, all those things that management told him as Roman 567 00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:16.039 was coming up in the ranks. You know he could bring that up, 568 00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:20.239 and how he was one of the last few guys he worked with before he 569 00:41:20.360 --> 00:41:23.000 left. There's a lot of fun to be had with with Punk back, 570 00:41:23.039 --> 00:41:25.679 And don't get me wrong, And would I be very intrigued. If I 571 00:41:25.679 --> 00:41:30.239 hear you know, cult to personality, Hell, yeah, I'm a wrestling 572 00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:32.000 fan. I would be like, yeah, I'd be standing up going, 573 00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:36.480 oh my god, what what is going to happen here? But do I 574 00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:39.920 think it's a good business decision? W W is gonna have to decide that 575 00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:45.079 and decide if the money that's going to come in is worth the risk of 576 00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:53.320 a guy that is a proven liability. Yeah, it's I honestly, like, 577 00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:58.480 I just don't know, because I don't even would you want to see 578 00:41:58.519 --> 00:42:02.400 in main eventing shows? Would you, like, not regularly, like like 579 00:42:02.519 --> 00:42:07.239 sparingly, he'd be on a very limited schedule. Yeah, So I mean 580 00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:10.800 it's I don't know, Like I would like to see it just for like, 581 00:42:10.800 --> 00:42:14.599 okay, he finally came back, and I would like to see a 582 00:42:14.679 --> 00:42:21.239 humble version of himself, like the whole arrogant, you know, rebel thing, 583 00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:25.000 Like I really it kind of for me, it always had a shelf 584 00:42:25.039 --> 00:42:29.880 life, and I always thought he had way too much smoke blown up his 585 00:42:29.960 --> 00:42:31.599 rear end. Then you know, we kind of spoke about like what is 586 00:42:31.639 --> 00:42:37.480 CM punk aside from the Summer of Punk, Like even if we like go 587 00:42:37.559 --> 00:42:43.559 back and recount his his He was champion for what eighteen months from mid twenty 588 00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:47.079 eleven to early twenty thirteen. I believe like his room was good, but 589 00:42:47.119 --> 00:42:52.159 it wasn't like the greatest w W championship run of all time. Like I 590 00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:55.079 didn't think he was a like a you know, a knockout champion by any 591 00:42:55.159 --> 00:42:59.639 sorts. Like I don't know, like it's he was good, He just 592 00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:02.679 isn't what people made him out to be or what he thought he was in 593 00:43:02.760 --> 00:43:07.679 his own mind. And I think given the depth of talent in WW right 594 00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:09.239 now, if he came back, he would have to understand his place. 595 00:43:09.960 --> 00:43:15.840 But maybe you know, going to AW really you know, made him understand 596 00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:20.840 some stuff and for you Like obviously neither of us really watch AW, so 597 00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:24.199 we can't speak to the actual wrestling product. But like, has this made 598 00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:30.400 you look at the AW any worse than maybe before or any better? Like 599 00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:32.840 has it changed your perception of the company at all? Well? No, 600 00:43:34.199 --> 00:43:38.920 I mean other than just to see seeing Tony Kahn actually do what he needed 601 00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:42.880 to do and probably should have done a long time ago. Although he did 602 00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:45.559 still do it was good to see and he did announce that you know, 603 00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:51.280 he did regrettable, regrettably have to fire Sam Pumpkin. Do I look at 604 00:43:51.320 --> 00:43:54.880 a w an differently, No, kind of the same. I mean the 605 00:43:55.159 --> 00:43:59.360 problem is when you have a guy that runs the company that feels like he 606 00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:02.400 is not capable of coming down hard on guys when they need to be. 607 00:44:02.960 --> 00:44:07.760 It's difficult to respect a company like that. Now it's not to say I 608 00:44:07.800 --> 00:44:10.039 don't respect the wrestling. I don't respect the wrestlers, but the way the 609 00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:15.599 company's run is difficult to respect. When it's you know, inmates run the 610 00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:17.559 asylum and you have a guy at the top that is, as Jim Cornett 611 00:44:17.559 --> 00:44:24.760 said, a superfan that doesn't seem to really you know, to lead with 612 00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:30.840 an iron fist. It does lend itself to feel like everything's kind of chaotic 613 00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:34.960 and it's whatever the political you know, agenda of the week is and who's 614 00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:39.000 got the most stroke with the top guys. It feels very I'm imagining kind 615 00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:44.119 of like an NWOSH scenario. And you know, in the late nineties when 616 00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:49.000 Hogan and Nashal Hall were running things backstage and they were also the talent, 617 00:44:49.519 --> 00:44:52.760 like, they had a ton of political and creative stroke and they got to 618 00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:57.199 choose the guys and gals they worked with and all this, and so it 619 00:44:57.360 --> 00:45:01.719 feels very much like that, and that obviously led in part to w CW's 620 00:45:01.800 --> 00:45:07.760 collapse, so it kind of cannibalize their own product. It feels like a 621 00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:10.480 little bit of that is happening here. Not to that extreme. I'm not 622 00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:15.800 saying aw's gonna collapse, but they have certainly enough cash to keep themselves going. 623 00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:20.760 But I just don't think it's conducive to a respectable way to lead a 624 00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:23.639 company when the guy can't even you know, the head of the company can't 625 00:45:23.639 --> 00:45:28.440 even you know, seemingly grow a set. I just feels that way. 626 00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:32.159 But all right, well, I'll leave it there. But any any final 627 00:45:32.199 --> 00:45:35.960 thoughts here we were going to wrap this up, guys, any final thoughts 628 00:45:36.039 --> 00:45:39.119 on Punk or well, let me ask us ultimately, do you think CM 629 00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:44.599 Punk's coming back to WWE. I think he shows up in what capacity. 630 00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:46.360 I don't know, if it's a one off, if it's a three month 631 00:45:46.480 --> 00:45:52.519 run, if it's a brock Leissner type of schedule, I'm not sure. 632 00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:55.840 But I do think we will see CM Punk on WWE television sooner rather than 633 00:45:55.920 --> 00:46:00.880 later, So before twenty twenty three. Is over. You're saying we will 634 00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:05.199 see here or get hints of punk. I think, by the rumble, 635 00:46:05.199 --> 00:46:09.400 we'll see cmpunk because I also think that, even though they don't like to 636 00:46:09.440 --> 00:46:15.639 admit it, I think WWE likes any chance to stomp on a ew and 637 00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:22.480 I think brillan cmpunk would be a major shot across the bow, especially if 638 00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:25.639 they make it work, Because if they could make it work, even like 639 00:46:25.679 --> 00:46:30.960 you said, on a part time schedule basis, I think that that would 640 00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:32.480 go to show that like, yeah, this guy can be a bit of 641 00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:37.639 a dick sometimes by my language, and a bit of a jerk, But 642 00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:43.320 at the same time, we have a structured, professional company here, and 643 00:46:43.400 --> 00:46:49.199 we could work around his issues, and we could utilize him as a valuable 644 00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:53.840 commodity as opposed to the bush league operation run by the Mark with the billionaire 645 00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:59.320 dad. And I think for WWE that would be a major victory, especially 646 00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:02.639 given the fact what they've done with Cody. Yeah, i'd agree, I 647 00:47:02.679 --> 00:47:07.480 think a few of the factors. So first of all, my answer is 648 00:47:08.039 --> 00:47:13.320 I do think we'll probably see him back. I'm not heavily heavily leaning that 649 00:47:13.360 --> 00:47:17.000 way. The thing is WWE doesn't need cm punk I think CM Punk needs 650 00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:21.679 a WWE a little bit more than if it were the other way around. 651 00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:24.239 And the reason I say that is I think Punk wants to be able to, 652 00:47:24.880 --> 00:47:30.320 in his own mind, stick it to a w who he feels mistreated 653 00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:32.239 him. And you know it's run by you can imagine what he's saying. 654 00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:36.199 It's run by amateurs. It's very political. I mean, I know what 655 00:47:36.199 --> 00:47:39.800 he's gonna probably say. So you're imagining Punk, knowing what he's like on 656 00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:45.360 camera, probably you know, trying to damage the company that he just got 657 00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:49.639 fired from. So I'm sure there's that impulse from Punk. But do I 658 00:47:49.639 --> 00:47:53.960 think WWE needs him, No, they certainly don't need him. The company 659 00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:57.280 will be just fine, and it's on the on the rise. I mean, 660 00:47:57.320 --> 00:48:00.039 think about where we were just five years ago where we are now and 661 00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:04.360 coming stars and all that. So, but I do think we'll see him. 662 00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:07.880 I think we'll see him probably before WrestleMania or at WrestleMania or Rumble that 663 00:48:08.000 --> 00:48:12.199 kind of thing. We're getting into that season now. And do I want 664 00:48:12.239 --> 00:48:15.039 to see him go on a major title run though, No, I don't. 665 00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:16.679 I just want to see him cut some fun promos, get the massive 666 00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:22.199 crowd reactions and kind of have a very here and their schedule over the next 667 00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:27.239 six to twelve months, call it a career, and you know, then 668 00:48:27.280 --> 00:48:30.239 hang up the boots for good because the guy he's not meant to go multiple 669 00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:35.679 times a week or a month for that matter. So no, I agree, 670 00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:38.519 I mean, just like have like a proper fail farewell tour. Like 671 00:48:38.559 --> 00:48:44.199 look, he finally came back. He had a non dysfunctional professional wrestling run 672 00:48:44.719 --> 00:48:47.400 in you know, the twenty twenties. I don't know, it's just it 673 00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:52.639 feels like as much as I don't think he's as big of a star as 674 00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:54.800 he thought he was or as many fans thought he was, I do think 675 00:48:54.880 --> 00:49:00.599 he should be remembered better than how it went aw And as much as I 676 00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:02.360 do think that, you know, a lot of this lies at his own 677 00:49:02.440 --> 00:49:07.039 feed, I do think that a big problem is how the operation is run 678 00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:10.400 at AW. To be quite honest with you, Yeah, it's a very 679 00:49:10.400 --> 00:49:14.800 country club feel. From what I understand. It's kind of you know it 680 00:49:14.840 --> 00:49:17.199 is, and it might run the asylum sounds cool, it does, But 681 00:49:17.719 --> 00:49:21.199 even if you're the talent there, you're thinking, oh wow, it's not 682 00:49:21.239 --> 00:49:24.039 like, you know, a very hierarchical structure. It's kind of like you 683 00:49:24.039 --> 00:49:28.480 can have your own feedback, but that comes with its own downsides. People 684 00:49:28.519 --> 00:49:30.960 don't I mean, like you think it sounds fun, it sounds cool, 685 00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:35.000 But the thing is then it's then it's kind of you know, controlled chaos, 686 00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:38.039 and it's who knows who, And you know, it's not so much 687 00:49:38.039 --> 00:49:42.800 what's best for the company, it's well, what I'm gonna get my stuff 688 00:49:42.800 --> 00:49:45.920 in? Who am I going to work? It becomes very much a political, 689 00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:49.559 self centered game. Uh. And that's certainly the case, no matter 690 00:49:49.719 --> 00:49:53.119 even if you're in WWE. But it's more it's mitigated much more by having 691 00:49:53.199 --> 00:50:00.840 a very hierarchical uh you know, just decision tree or or or rather a 692 00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:04.239 workflow or what is I'm trying to say, But there's like you know, 693 00:50:04.320 --> 00:50:08.119 executive CEO, VP of creative like all the way down the line. Then 694 00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:12.199 you have a room of writers and that comes with its own downfalls too. 695 00:50:12.239 --> 00:50:15.079 But you know, I think that it's not as good of a it's not 696 00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:22.159 a conducive environment as much people many people would think in a W two further 697 00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:24.400 in your career than it is in w w E. But anyway, all 698 00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:30.719 right, well, final thoughts before we wrap. All I would say is 699 00:50:31.119 --> 00:50:35.960 for listeners to look out for an announcement over the next coming days. There 700 00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:37.960 you go, Yeah, I can confirm that. Guys. Oh, I'll 701 00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:42.480 make an announcement tomorrow on my Monda and at Raw Review. I'll keep you 702 00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:45.320 guys hooked. If that works, I'll let you guys know what's going on 703 00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:51.199 tomorrow Night's It's a pretty pretty big deal, So I'll announce that tomorrow at 704 00:50:51.199 --> 00:50:52.719 the top of my Monday and at Raw Review. Stay tuned for that. 705 00:50:53.440 --> 00:50:58.480 But I just want to let you guys know Anthony will be doing a retro 706 00:50:58.760 --> 00:51:00.840 this coming week, and I don't I don't know if you had a topic 707 00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:05.480 in mind or if we'll kind of figure it out as the days go by. 708 00:51:05.559 --> 00:51:07.880 Here, you know, I had a topic in mind, but obviously 709 00:51:08.119 --> 00:51:14.159 with some stuff in the works behind the scenes, I think it's more of 710 00:51:14.199 --> 00:51:19.920 a fluid situation as this week's retro maybe a much bigger and more significant retro 711 00:51:20.039 --> 00:51:23.000 than ever before. So we still do have some things in the queue. 712 00:51:23.000 --> 00:51:28.159 Maybe we will do Rocks Return with Eugene, but I think there's gonna be 713 00:51:28.159 --> 00:51:30.960 a lot of moving parts in the coming days, and it will depend on 714 00:51:31.480 --> 00:51:36.119 how things fall there you go, guys, A little teaser kind of feel 715 00:51:36.119 --> 00:51:38.400 where we're going here, a bit of a teaser, but will be a 716 00:51:38.440 --> 00:51:44.639 retro on Friday and it'll it'll be a big one and then we'll see after 717 00:51:44.679 --> 00:51:46.119 that. As I said, well, we'll let you guys know what's going 718 00:51:46.119 --> 00:51:51.239 on tomorrow on raws. I'll check that out. And do you want to 719 00:51:51.280 --> 00:51:53.639 share social media? I know you as as hockey season gets a little a 720 00:51:53.639 --> 00:51:57.760 little closer and a little closer, maybe you'll want to share that. Yeah, 721 00:51:57.800 --> 00:52:00.320 so aid to mark a twenty five on two are obviously going to be 722 00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:06.400 more active there as uh as the hockey season gets underway, and maybe after 723 00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:09.519 this announcement may get more active there in terms of this podcast and all that. 724 00:52:09.639 --> 00:52:14.039 So maybe looking to do some more interactive stuff as well. So yeah, 725 00:52:14.119 --> 00:52:16.199 at a Marker twenty five on Twitter or X or whatever it's called right 726 00:52:16.239 --> 00:52:19.760 now. I know we still call it Twitter. Sound calling it X just 727 00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:22.400 sounds bizarre. So yeah, all right, yeah check him out on Twitter 728 00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:27.480 and guys, say too for the announcement and we'll be talking again real soon. 729 00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:29.800 Looking forward to it. Man, enjoy your night, you two. 730 00:52:30.880 --> 00:52:36.400 Thanks for listening to the w w E podcast. Don't forget to subscribe on 731 00:52:36.440 --> 00:52:40.719 your favorite podcast app so you don't miss a show, or head to WWE 732 00:52:40.880 --> 00:52:45.880 podcast dot com and for all of these shows add free head over to Patreon 733 00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:52.519 dot com slash WWE podcast. Until then, we'll see you next time.