For the record with me Angelina, who's been so so behind on editing episodes.
You guys, when I tell you, I think we recorded this one
like two weeks ago, dead ass. We're gonna be back next week on
point. But yeah, you might get an extra episode next week too,
because there was another really good episode that we recorded that I forgot to edit,
that was even way before this one. I might just like do the
Bitch segment because I feel like our topic was really good, but obviously everything
else is a little outdated. Sem I the case for this episode, I
mean not really, just for the culture, and for the culture, I
do want to I did want to talk about Steven A. Smith and Monica
McNutt and then getting into it and the whole narrative around the WNBA right now,
and let's talk TV. I'm actually late to the party, even though
this is a late episode. I've been late to this. I just finally
watched the movie Bottoms on Amazon Prime and I have to talk about it.
And in Bitch, we talk about when being the oversharer bites you in the
ass. Okay, when is sharing too much information with your friends about your
situationships and relationships too much? So by all means, let's get to it.
This is for the culture, for the culture. For the culture.
This is where we pick a headline and ask if they, she or he
did it for the culture. I'm gonna just flat, I'll say steven A.
Smith right now not doing it for the culture. I know you guys,
I don't know if you guys watch First Take at all, But if
you don't know, and for the listeners that don't listen to because this is
obviously not a sports podcast, First Take is a popular sports show with steven
A. Smith and Shannon Sharp, and basically what they do is they just
discuss the hottest topics that are going on that week in sports. Usually like
yeah, they're just having a discussion and they'll bring on guests and Mollie Kierum
love her. She's like the girl on the show. She's kind of the
moderator to make sure they stay on track when we need to come a commercial
break. And yeah, they have guests on to like basically debate with steven
A Shanna Sharp like kind of battle it out on like the hottest topic.
So a couple of weeks ago, the whole honestly, the video world lost
our minds about the w WNBA because Kennedy Carter they're playing a game against Kaylyn
Clark, and basically Kaitlyn Clark was getting ready to get in about it and
mind you, like, I'm sure you guys know Kaylyn Clark. People are
saying like she is like the reason that the WNBA is getting all this attention,
which honestly is the whole other conversation because yes and no, you know,
I I think she deserves her flowers too, but do you think people
have been a little od with it? Anyways, She's waiting to get the
ball inbounded and Kennedy cars sees her and you see her mouth. She says,
you little bitch and runs up to her and gives her a little hip
check before the ball's even inbounded, and yeah, okay. People were mad
about that. And then after review, the refs just said it was a
common foul and like, clearly it's a flaground foul, Like that wasn't okay,
And guys, the world went crazy like everyone's just like bathing Kaylen Clark
and they're just like like news outlets like Good Morning America covered it, You
covered it. News outlets were like this is assault is crazy. It's the
basketball y'all. Like honestly that what she did was wrong and like one hundred
percent was a flagron foul, like I would have been mad about the common
foul too, And honestly, like just watching the game, like the game
was really close, like girl, I'm all here for like, you know,
bicking up someone, you know, gotta punk a chest out a little
bit. Yeah, but like when the game is that closed, like that
was honestly like just a dumb decision in general, But it's not something that's
like uncommon in the game of basketball. Men do it all the time,
yes, not just basketball, like football players do it all the time,
people like stepping on people's heads and shit, so like, and no one's
calling it assault, right And basically there's like this narrative in the media that
like, oh, the women are messing up the coverage that the WNBA is
getting. So Steve n Ae Smith and he brings up Monica McNutt, who
is an ESPN analyst honestly covered NBA and WNBA, and she's also played basketball
herself, like she's what's a player in the game exactly she knows what she's
doing. So they're on to talk about this and basically like, I'm paraphrasing
the whole thing, but Steve Nie Smith basically is like, you know,
I hate having to choose my words because he does want to criticize the women
for like I guess not acting right because of the coverage or whatever. I
don't know, and it like hates that she's saying, I hate that this
is in a diegment of the whole WNBA, Like it shouldn't be. She
like did say, like Kenny Karva is wrong for doing that. It was
like all around stupid decision, but this isn't like a whole indictment of the
WNBA, Like now you know they're ruining it for themselves and you know,
like we can't choose violence, like oh, that's pretty stupid. And Steven
Smith is like, I hate that I'm trying to criticize her, but I
have to pick and choose my words, and Monica says, well, welcome
to like being a woman, right, like okay, all the time,
right, which so things are gonna heat it mid They're having this conversation for
forty five minutes, which like on first like like it doesn't that doesn't happen
a lot and especially talking about women's sports, which it's like silver lining because
that is cool. Like in general, we haven't seen this much coverage on
the WNB and ju just so exactly, but like it's it's getting really heated,
like Molly has to be like, guys, let me do my job,
like we have to go to commercial break here, Like she's getting like,
yeah, it's getting heated. So they're saying that she says, welcome
to being a woman. So where steven A responds what he says, he
says, what about being a black man? And for contact, Monica is
a black woman, So it just seemed I don't know, I guess looking
back now, like in the heat of the moment, like that's this is
stephen a show. I'm sure there. I feel like there is a narrative
also, like obviously we know women's basketball is getting more coverage, but there
is a lot of people who like talk shit still who say people don't care
about women's basketball and you know, like are so anti the WBA. Yeah
exactly, So I get not wanting to be like roped into that, you
know, like yeah and becoming defensive and none of us are black, soot
don't even want to speak, like too much to what they're saying to each
other, but also like I was raised by a lot of black women and
like just doing your regular research on America and how black women have been treated,
Like you don't want to play the struggle who struggled most? Yeah a
black woman? Yeah, especially as a black man. You would think he
would like understand it more so that PARTUT thought was kind of whack. And
then he goes on to say who has done more for the WBA than first
take? Okase, relax, and again I'm like okay before it gets even
like what she responded, which kind of like got things pop in. I
get it, like when something is finally becoming popular or coming up like not
only exactly do you not want to be roped into? Oh I'm definitely not
that, Like I'm an applive, I don't want to be roped into the
others Like that's not me. And I get wanting when things are blowing up,
like you want your credit right, like I can talk about this shit
or like who talks about it more than my show? Either? I do?
I do think that is like I understand where it comes from, like
the pride and like wanting to defend yourself and like, exactly, you do
want your credit. I totally get it, but like to your point,
it is weird. Don't people want Brownie probe else give it to you because
somebody's gonna be like, nah, they've been on that. You know,
people that are listening to people are watching, they're right now, they've been
about that. You're like, you know what I mean, right? I
guess for me, I'm just like WNBA is having their moment. I think
people need to let them have their moments, like it's not about the it's
not about who did what first, like and if I'm talking about it on
my show, I'm assuming it's because I'm hoping that one day it becomes something
like that where it's like, oh, for sure, they're fine right when
you're right away like, well, I'm the one doing this, like else
who's done more for whatever? And I'm stly gonna get more into that because
so basically he's saying that into what she says, respectfully, stephen A,
you weren't talking about the w BA three years ago. Molly Kierum makes the
greatest face like she's like, oh, is it true? Steven Ae has
a speechless I mean, I guess he's gotta. He did say like,
oh, I guess you missed some first take episode. Yeah, like I
would like to see the receipts. I mean, three years ago, no
one was me neither, like you know, I mean my mom, she's
not her w BA fan, but when she was watching, I wasn't watching
it as much like I don't know as many players as I did three years
ago than I do now, you know, Like I'm guilty of it too.
I think a lot of us are. And it's just like she it
was just a true fact. Stephen A speechless, Like the guys, there's
a whole pregnant pause like it was awkward. Molly Karen's face is hilarious.
Steven A just goes wow wow. And when you say wow, I know,
yeah, you're guilty. You're guilty, guilty face. That's what that
means. And that's what Molly was like, guys, please let me do
my job, like we need to go to commercial work right now, like
we need to wrap this up. So that was that Twitter goes crazy all
the headlines. Stephen A left speechless, Steve and I got put in her
place. Want to go checked him? Steven I goes on his own podcast
because he has his own platform, and like, I just thought his response
was so whack. I don't I don't even have the whole thing, but
like some of the things he said was like one like no one who monicam
neck was but now you do if you watch first whatever. Actually it's like
she covers both the w n B A and w n B A and like
was a player in herself, Like she like you know, tears to like
have that platform, and like I don't know, listen, there's like claiming,
no one I was talking about the w NBA without my podcast. Nobody
knew her without my podcast, Like no, he completely misses the whole point
of what she's said. Obviously, his feelings are hurt, and like I
said, I get in the moment, like exactly not I wanted to be
roped into, like he's really defending himself and his feelings are hurt. But
I just feel like he missed her whole point. Like yeah, because he
also goes on to say, like all the women he's hired, like including
Molly on first take, and all the women that work at his jobs,
and all these things he's done for women and women's bathroom ball, right exactly.
He should have just let her have that, like six with your legend,
you have this show, this literally is your platform. Let her win
this debate. Yeah, like why do you have to take it there to
like, oh well, let me tell you I did X, Y and
Z for women, including you. You need to be on this thing.
This is my show, you know. Like I just saw his follow up
response with so whack it did not have to go there. Let someone check
you or let or be like or show some receipts and be like actually I
was, or even if he was honest, like you know what, yeah,
like I was also busy trying to have the number one show, you
know, like you gotta respect it, like yeah, you know, everyone
has excuses of why they didn't put on a platform where they didn't. Her
point is like it needs to be done now. And just like this whole
narrative of I mean, going back to that original argument. I was listening
to this podcast that Marcus Thompson was on. Legendary a sports writer like did
so much work with the Warriors back in our early days, works for the
Athletic. He was on this podcast and he was saying, you know,
with the WNBA. When you have a big up and cooming league like this,
you need those stories of like, you know, juiciness and like personalities,
you know, and about these players and whatnot. But what's missing is
the regular WNBA coverage and he and he was saying like he's don't you know,
like please don't get mad because like she's a hooper too, but like
there's still a lot of people who are not seeing this as real basketball and
it's shown in the media, Like how come I can't go see exactly like
how many you know, like specific stats and like other things that like sports
junkies can't look at too in the NBA, in the NFL, but like
the WABA, it's only these stories drama. Yeah, it's more like reales
instead of Yeah. But the argument was like in general, like we just
need more depth in wa coverage, which is like period. I thought they
like honestly goes into the podcast. It was so good. Let me see
what it's called, because I know they work for the Athletic Athletic Women's Basketball
show. It is like the emergency pod because they had to talk about this
situation. But the way Stevehni Smith went about it, I just thought was
so whack. It's giving defensive in a what's the word, I'm looking for
a defensive in a desperate desperation in like a desperation type of way. Like
he is trying to defend himself, but in like he doesn't have the right
words to say, so he's just trying to make you look even more instant.
Yeah yeah, and then you can you can prove yourself later. Yeah
right, you know what I mean? And like I said, like I
see, I get, I totally get wanted to defend yourself and all this
stuff, and like I respect Steven A. Smith, but it's like the
way you're going about it, it's like looking the opposite. It's making you
look even worse. Like just let these women have their moment. Yeah exactly,
I agree, and like and just the whole like, oh, did
you even know who she was before she was on first stick? Like yul
right, because I said, you were talking about the WNBA three years ago.
It's honestly, I would like to see the receipts, you know what
I mean? So Charlot to Monica, though she tweeted yesterday, she says,
so, what's been going on here with like a ween face because like
mind you like Twitter was going crazy, Yeah, Steven A. Smith like
two responses like on Twitter on his YouTube page and it's like, you know
your platform, like you're lowkey like putting all these people to go bully her
too. Luckily, I mean people are like you're being whack and fuck but
like especially the people that you don't want to be, like the people that
are so anti w n b A, like they're gonna jump all over yeah
them, or that you're giving them chance to be like this is why you
know what I mean exactly exactly, So yeah, Steve may Smith, but
not doing it for the culture. Let's talk TV honestly, Chris and I
here today, so we're not gonna talk about hacks. So y'all got one
more weeks to catch up because I silers I said in the last episode,
We're not gonna be aout it right, but I'm away for Chris because he
did see them. Finally, I have to start with, no, you
want me to watch all three seasons? Huh? Yeah, I said,
you can't. Yeah, you can't, You really can't. You really started?
No, Okay, no, respectfully, I watched Bottoms for the first
time last night. Did you guys watch that movie. No, Oh my
god, it's like I feel like it's like low Ki, like supposed to
be like a cult classic. It's with Rachel I think her name Senate.
She's she was on the idol. She was like the friend that's like the
assistant. Again. It's a movie. It's called Bottoms. Marshall Lynch was
like a supporting character. He's all funny. Oh and I haven't seen it
that dog I know he's actually and then I, oh, how do you
say her last name? From the bear Piery? Yeah, from the bear
who's like amazing, she's in it, you guys. I was not expecting
because Okay, what I've read on Twitter and stuff, like, it's supposed
to be like a super Bad for girls basically. But it's basically about these
two lesbians in high school and they create a fight club just so they could
hook up with cheerleaders, and they like it's they kind of lie about why
they're creating the club, or like their resources or like their background, their
credentials. I guess of like what makes them start a fight club just so
they hook up the chillers, But they end up creating like this really cool
space for women. Okay, so that's like kind of the premise of so
you can see where that goes wrong and where it doesn't. But it's just
it's like so chaotic, Like there's scenes like, honestly, I don't want
to say it because it's like go into a vinely But I guess a lot
of it is satire. But there's some ship that I did not plan on
seeing, like it looking as a little gory, Like the scenes are crazy
glory bruh, because it is a comedy. It's it's hell of funny.
Yeah, shout out to Marshall Lynch. Actually, I think I read this
a long time ago because I meant to watch this movie a long time ago.
It's certainly not a new movie came out last year. But I guess
like Marshall Lynch putou because I guess like his sister or something was lesbian.
I think when she came out he didn't like when he handled it. I
don't know, because it is definitely a lesbian like, so I think it
meant a lot for him to be in it and play that role. He's
like the freaking teacher and I don't know, he like tries to understand these
girls but be small, be small. Yeah, I know, he's pretty
funny in it. It's good. Just go watch it. It's chaotic.
It definitely is like very super bad, very book smart, like it's hilarious,
but some twists that makes it like maybe like in more it's like,
wow, this is a cult classic because it's so stupid bad I have I
didn't even I have never heard of it. I I've not seen the movie
poster. I've not seen anything. I guess I A lot of writers on
Twitter also don't have Amazon the movie one the Oh that is probably what I
watched. I don't have it, and that's where its streaming on, So
I have that, but I don't. I didn't even see it on it
don't all. I guess all the writers, I like, everyone does tweet
about it on my timeline, but in a very you have not known already.
People are making like the fan edits for it, you know, like
that kind of deal. Okay, But I also I think I know more
about it because I had interv Charlie XCX, and I think she basically like
helped with the score. Oh yeah, she did a lot of the sound
and her and I Rachel gar are like besties. Yeah, I was reading
some of the reviews on letter box because I'm just like, what are people
thinking about this movie? Like there's just a lot of stuff I did not
expect. Like I literally like kind of I was like laying down and it
made me like sit up. I was like, what the fuck like that?
But it's hilarious. But yeah, I'm just reading someone said Rachel said
in AO I do you know, learn how to say her last name?
But it says could do fight Club with Brad Pitt and Edwin Orton. Couldn't
do bottoms because the guy is like a fight club but like a super Okay,
it sounds good. Oh and one thing I just want to say.
At the end, they have a bluebird thing bring like bluebirds Anyone's like you?
Which I finally watched too. Yes, it was bad. It was
pretty bad. I'm definitely not saying it's my top three, but I love
a rom cop. So bad it's a bad movie. I would watch again,
Okay, Okay, and I guess I do agree with I was like
looking on Twitter, a lot of people are saying that Sidney Sweeney was miscast.
I do kind of see that a little bit. The guy was perfect
the main guys. I think she's just meant for more either serious roles or
like scary movies. A yeah. And also I'm sorry Gata cannot act.
I know, I gave him praise older episodes and Little Dickie for his like
monolog but I think it was more just what they were highlighting, because the
more I see him, I'm like, how was he getting these roles?
And like he just seemed so like not even just talken a black guy,
but like it was just so unnatural, like so like I would not believe
that there are friends Okay, Okay, well, technically he was the sister,
the brother sorry to the to the friend guy. He's also the guy's
best friend, the one that Sidney Sweeney except with. I like, you
know, I believe that the the guy who Sidney Sweeney hooks up with is
friends with the girl one of the one of the the girls from the couple
that's getting married, because I don't know, I just like there, yeah,
like they're definitely close, because he was like, I know, you,
bro, you need to choose her, and like you know everything about
the eggs. Okay, I guess, uh telling me And I've watched the
movie so many times. But and they read they were friends. Wise,
I mean they're all friends because they grew up together. Okay, yes,
yeah, they all hang out. Like let's see where they're like meeting up
to the friends. Like, I don't know, it's just like this is
so it doesn't seem like he really hangs out with them, like obviously he
does this movie. But but you didn't buy it. You didn't buy the
acting. Yeah, he's just a bad actor. But I would I would
still watch it again though, like there were some parts that I that made
me feel things. Okay, well, it is one of my favorite rom
coms. I don't know. I don't remember if I said top three,
but I did say, yeah, I did not. I did not.
Yeah, I don't know. I don't remember, but top three. It's
not in my top three. If I did say that, it's not in
my top three, but is one of my favorite rom comms currently and will
be in my rotation of feel good comfort movies that I will put on when
I want to watch a movie, and I will stand by that, respectfully.
What everyone else thinks good for you, what I think good for me,
you're not. I'm it does not hurt my feelings that people are hating
on it. Yeah, we're not trying to hurt your feelings a course,
just giving a review of the movie, I know. But I just feel
like the way that I was going hard for it, yeah, and like
people aren't are telling me that they don't like it. It's fine, Yeah,
yeah you should it just for you. It's for you. There's a
really bad wrong time I watched it was like I think it's called When We
Last Met or something. It's like such a big movie. It's not the
guy from Alcoholics, a small one with a scrunch, and like he goes
into like I don't know, this fucking like photo booth and he's like allowed
to like rewind time every time he goes into it, and he like is
in love with this girl, so he goes in there three wine so we
could get her to like fall in love with him every time he meets her,
but like it never works out. Yeah, like because they're just not
meant to be. But it's like kind of a bad movie, but I
liked it, And that's how I feel about anyone but you. It's like
this is clearly a bad movie, but I will watch it again. That's
how I felt about have you always seen How to Stay? Or How to
Be Single? Oh? I love the movie, that's not it. I
liked it, but I think I don't know, just something about it was
like not my favorite. I see it again. It's just different way.
I don't know. But it's a good movie. It is a good movie.
I like the time. I will say, but yeah, anyone but
you, you guys watched it, let us know, let us know.
I still really think it's good. I will still recommend it to everyone I
talk to. Go watch Bottom though, because that's another one that's like,
is this a bad movie or is it the greatest film I've ever seen?
You know, just a super fun high school comedy, top notch political satire,
amazing score, absolutely deranged, irrelevant, silly film. Cinema bottoms on
Amazon Prime, go watch it. Bit, there is something I want to
talk about a little bit because I have noticed a little backfire on my part.
For context, You guys, I'm some and I'm not going to stop
this either, but I think I am just going to adjust a little bit.
But I am someone who like talks things to the motherfucking ground like anything.
It could be a work thing. It's like any conflict comes in my
life, I need everyone in the MoMA's opinions. I need all my friends
opinions, maybe even some colleagues. You know, I need a group chat,
right, I need to obsess over it for a little bit. I
need to torture myself and then I come to my senses and then I have
a clearer vision and it really doesn't matter, like I am taking everyone's opinions
into consideration. But I think after all of it, I do come to
just like truly what I'm feeling and what I think is right. You just
need to talk. You just need exactly and to different people. I do
like herring the different things. Whether I agree with it or not, like
it just it just helps me. It's just what I like to do.
Yes, But you know, I gave my update to you guys about Carpenter
Bay and like you know where things are going. But I had recently went
to my Neil appointment, and I forgot that I didn't update my nail tech
of like us talking again or like anything that had happen, because I haven't
talked her since my birthday, and like why don't She was like why,
Like why are you talking to him again, and like I think I talked
it too much into the ground that I wasn't even able to like explain it
the way I explain it to you guys, cause I'm just like it's like
so long ago now, and like now we're in a good place. Like
I didn't, like my emotions aren't even there they're as strong. So I
was just like, oh, well, this happened, and he apologized I
forgave him. Then he showed up at this thing and I thought I was
really sweet and now we're good. Yeah, And I don't know. She
just like was like super shitting on him and like almost the point like I
was actually getting irritated because it made me feel like she's like we feel like
this dumb bitch who like keeps taking their X back kind of ordeal, you
know what I mean. And and I'm like the last one to like be
defending a man, Like even my mom and them always get on me like
I'm like too harsh on people and what do whooped? And it's like I
don't. It made me like I felt like I needed to do that,
and it was like and then I was getting annoyed myself because it's like ill
I don't need to. It was like, I don't need to explain anything
to you right one two I'm sounding like this girl is like trying to fend
him. It's like, oh no, I don't want to sound like that
either. Like we were like talking in circles, basically just getting me annoyed.
I actually had to go back the next day because we didn't finish my
nails in time and I had to go to WORG. I was running late,
so I was like in a better moviod and I did kind of like
say it's her in a nicer way that I was kind of annoyed and until
she kind of hurt me up. But she was kind of like, well,
you know what the day like, this isn't your boyfriend. And I'm
like yeah, clearly, like exactly, but also I feel like you're still
just now You're just like anyways all this to say, and and I kind
of edited it to her with like you know what, yes he did a
whack thing, and I toose to forgive that whack thing. It is what
it is, like, yeah he does on the whack and I forgave it.
Do I think it's like level of like wow, he's to beat me
or I cheated on me, Like I think there's layers of like putting up
with shit, So I don't think I'm not gonna say like this dumb bitch
I like keeps going back to her eggs. And also on top of like
this isn't my boyfriend, Like I'm not really putting up with anything like the
other the day we're dating and having fun, so I'm not necessarily like crying
in a corner putting up with anything, laying you know, a bed,
waiting for a fall call either, Like I'm not doing that either, So
we kind of just ended it that way. But all this to say,
I have this older friend who used to write here at my Heart, and
I remember I didn't know so long that she even had a boyfriend until like
we got like extra close because she wanted to vent about him finally. And
even then, I remember, like she's now in a really good relationship,
Like I don't know, they might get married too, and I don't know,
like they're doing really good, but I remember like when they were having
their early troubles, like I didn't hear any of it until maybe recently because
it was like a past situation and I always admired her of being very private
and like not that I'm gonna stop being this overshare, but I am saying,
like you really cannot tell your friends everything, And that's what I want
to talk about, oversharing your relationships. I kind of just yeah, I
want to talk about that, Like how do you guys feel about that?
I think I'm in the same boat as you, where like if something happens
to me, I need to like talk about it with like my friend,
like like whoever, Like I just need to like expel it from my body
for me to like help me, like you know. Yeah, however,
I do feel like speaking on like my relationship and love life vibe. No
one knows anything about it. I'm not telling anyone. If I'm dating someone
new, they'll hear about it if anything after the fact, no one,
no one, no one, like not even like your best friend, no,
not even anything, because I definitely knew about you talking to people.
Yeah, but like I don't share like all the all the details, like
oh, like oh I'm on the dating apps. Oh I'm going on to
day on Saturday. Oh, the day was cool. I'm going on another
day like the next week. When you do company problems. It's very like,
let me start from the beginning of when it was going good and I
was going exactly yeah. Yeah, so it's like more towards like the tail
and if anything, and like I feel like even with you, I feel
like I've only talked to you about like one, maybe two people. Yeah,
I've dated multiple more than that, sure, but yeah, I don't
know. That's just the boundary of mind that I've always had. I don't
know why. I just feel like it's something sacred to my heart. And
I also feel like I don't want people to know about that part of my
life if it's not something that will be long term, Like I don't want
to It's not that it's bad. I don't want to be the person who's
like has ten people dating ten people and then like their friends get confused about
who you're talking about because it's like you just and then like once it's over,
I don't want them to like ask me about it for sure, it's
done right whatever. I do feel like you can correct me if I'm wrong.
I also feel like you do it also as a protective mechanism a little
bit like I feel like you don't like to your helps up about certain things
and like talking about it. You're like, I don't want to talk about
it two sand or you know. Also I also feel like that's part of
it as well, but yeah, I don't know, it's just well,
you don't have to yeah, you know. Yeah, I don't talk to
anybody about anything I have. I have like two people maybe three that really
know or that I feel like I could say a lot too, like almost
like ninety nine point ninety nine, but there's always something I like to keep
to myself, especially with dating and relationships, but me with mostly everything.
I think for me though, and I don't know if it's the same for
you, but only child you do that a lot growing up sometimes where you
can just yeah, I feel overthink yourself into it. You decided for yourself.
You didn't whether you needed the advice or not, you didn't have it,
so you just kept yeah. And I think that that kind of internalizes
later in life, where like now it's you kind of get used to like,
well I talk to as motherfucker, I know it's myself and then you
know, And I also will say to everyone, even to you, like
not everyone needs to know everything. Yeah, And I think that's that's in
every aspect of your life. No matter how much is everything to you,
you can share it a lot, but there's always little things that it's like
keep that sacred, keep that for yourself. And I'm sure you do that.
You probably just don't realize it because you're choosing to share what you want
to. Well, I'm not saying I'm just saying I don't realize it.
There's definitely I don't say every detail, like there's things that are sacred,
but I'm just saying I'm an open book like process in general, Like yeah,
the things you guys were free to share, Like I'm open book about
a lot of things, Like I don't mind sharing, you know, not
necessarily deep dark secrets, but like stuff that like is really private to other
people, like it's not private to me, And I don't mind that.
And I don't think it's something that like, oh this is like it doesn't
mean it's not sacred to me because I'm sharing it. I'm just more comfortable.
I'm just like an open book and I don't mind that. Yeah,
And I love hearing about other people too, and I feel like and I
feel like I get that energy in return because I do feel like a lot
of people do confide in me a lot about things that they don't confind to
everyone about. Also, yeah, so I don't think I'm necessarily like not
making it sacred. It just it's just my personality. Like I don't know,
I'm an aries. I don't know what your guys signs are. Like
I'm a pistash and I'm not an only child. I'm the oldest. I'm
like the manager of my family. And I have a really big family.
And my cousins are like my sisters and my brothers, and like we all
just talk like my mom talk about everything too. So I don't know,
maybe that's just like also how a little bit how I grew up and just
like what I'm comfortable doing. Yeah, And also and I guess this is
what I'm learning now, Like I'm speaking more so about relationships because I know
my friends are. I guess I'm only saying this to myself because I know
they love me and they care about me a lot. So I also need
to remember that they're just coming from a protective place. But I and I
also know like that I tend to sometimes I take things personally when they're when
it's not that serious. I say that this is specifically not like i'd the
right reason to be a little upset, but it was Also I can't blame
him because I chose to share that information, and I guess I just need
to be more for me. I need to be more mindful of that,
like if you do, in the long run, choose to forgive this person,
Like what is is there gonna be any backlash? Or do I need
to explain this to people? Or or yeah, I could send bounari say
I don't need explain shit to anyone, but like, at the same time,
if you're gonna share something with someone, you kind of do a little
bit. I mean, I don't I don't need to do anything. No
one needs to do anything, but like if I want to, I guess
I am someone that does care about what people think. And I definitely care
about what my friends think. So it does bother me if they're thinking some
way, and it's not very easy for me to be like, fuck your
opinion, this is what I'm doing. As long as you do have to
set that boundary, maybe it's not as brutal. I'm not saying fuck you,
but like I do guys say like you know what I do care about
the day. It doesn't really matter what what she makes because this is what
I'm doing now, and I'm like set in this. Yeah, but yeah,
I feel for like this last thing, and I'm like, ooh,
like maybe I need to yeah not maybe I don't need to tell the world
that's like, is this like your nel tech person? Yeah? This is
also Yeah, Like I think a lot of people they want you to they
when they care about you, they want what's best for you. And a
lot of times when you share everything, every relationship has ups and downs,
and I don't know about this. I don't know about that. So when
you're looking at it from the outside and I don't like this person, you
like them, you know, so I rely be like that, ain't it?
Or like oh fuck that, like don't tolerate that, And then I'm
over here doing the exact same thing with the girl I like, you know
what I mean. It's yeah, your friends are always obviously easier to give
advice than to like, but it's hard. It's like big stuff. I
think, like I have a cousin who she's with this guy that in the
beginning, like she would share a lot of things about him, you know,
because she was excited, really close to us everything, and a lot
of the things that she would say would be like, oh no about that
because of this, or be careful because of that, like little things that
you want to tell them because you care, because you like your cousin,
because you want them to be happy, you know what, they deserve whatever,
right, and then something happens and then they you know, like you
said, you decided to forgive them, and that was your decision. That's
great. But then me over here, I don't like the person the way
you do, so I'm gonna be like, m he still did that though,
you know what I mean, And it kind of ruins, not ruins
that relationship that you can have with this person. But like say, my
cousin marries him, I might always been in the back of my head like
you still almost like did this though, you know? And that's on me
though, right because it's like, I mean, that's something one holding on
to it because I love you, because I care about you and a little
bit too. I mean, I guess that's exactly That's what I'm saying.
Like when you do share, I guess it depends, like you know,
the severity of it. But those are things you do need to take into
consideration, especially with family, like exactly, Like and also sometimes we want
to vent only when it's a bad thing, Yeah, and we don't take
into consideration that we're only like veting, like exactly, like maybe I am
more sacred about the nicer things or the cute things because I'm protective of myself,
so I'll even want to get too deep into it, you know what
I mean. So like maybe I don't brag about that to my friends or
even want to s share it because I feel like those things are more intimate,
whereas like I'm just annoyed about some shit you said, Like I'm gonna
talk to my friend about that all day, like bitch, guess what the
motherfucker said, Like am my trip in? Like you know, I know
how I could get So they don't want that. But when it's like constant
and it's like, well, this person fucking sucks because this is your fifth
thing of saying, yeah he did kind of annoying and I don't think it's
a shitty person and now I hate him for you, So that that's something
you gotta think about. True, That's true. And yeah, even family
like Yeah, they'll choose to be like, well, we' actually don't fuck
with this person anymore. Yeah, and that's fair like that, you know,
like you don't have to, but the person that's with them doesn't have
to leave them either, you know what I mean. Yeah, And it
can get to a point sometimes where like you're not as close to that,
like that's I don't know if that's happened to any of you, but like
it's happened in my family, where like the cheater was forgiven and now because
everybody knows, it's kind of like like we don't really fuck with them no
more, like they're still around. They come over because whatever they're together,
they have kids or whatever it is, and then you're kind of like,
hey, what's up, But like you don't you're always upset for them,
you know, right, even if you've decided, even if they decided that
they're forgiven or that you still want to be with them, because that's you're
definitely your choice. You know. The people that love you are always gonna
think that you deserve better than what you have, you know what I mean,
even if it's the most amazing person, even if it's you know,
yeah, to share the great things that I was going to be like,
well, they could do this different because no one's perfect. So it's definitely
people's politics. I mean, I definitely see myself, Like one thing I
pride myself a lot on is being understanding. I don't pride myself a lot
of things, And like I think my mom taught us very early to like
to be very forgiving, and that does being put up with shit, because
trust me, like she wishes I would put up a more shit. And
maybe I need to do better at like doing it myself. But I will
say I do give my friends and my family a lot of grace when it
comes to stuff like that, even like something as bad as cheating. One
thing I don't fuck with is abuse, like kidding that you'll be in my
bad graces and I don't want you to get back to that person, and
that it takes me a while to get over, even like offer someone like
probably would it. Yeah, But like even things as like I fidelity and
stuff like that, Like honestly, I remember one time I was talking to
this old coworker friend I worked at so fucking find joy department in Macy's.
I'll never forget she had like this boyfriend, that he was shitty, like
you know, you didn't be or anything like not hellly shitty, but like
he just he kind of suck. He wasn't a good boyfriend. Yeah,
and I'll never forget. Like we're expenting about it, and like, you
know, I was just giving her advice and then her reason for getting back
to him. She literally said, she's like, you know, Angula,
I'm just not done with him. Like I know, I'm not a dumb
bitch. I don't need to be told that. She wasn't saying this to
me, just like in general, she was saying, like it's not that
I'm don't know that he's doing bad things or that I deserve better. It's
not that I don't know that I'm not like this dumb bitch. I like
love his blind kind of thing. I know that I just am not done
with him. And I thought that was so powerful to be like, yeah,
I know none of the shit, Like I'm just not done with this
person. I'm not taking her seriously. This is not that my husband.
Like when i decide I'm over being treated this way or like don't want to
deal with it, then I will make that decision. But right now I'm
not done with him, and I'm gonna go back to him and love that.
Actually I did love that. And honestly, when my friends, I
mean, it does get to a point I think when it's it becomes very
repetitive and like you know, cause I've actually friends who are like I see
their like mental health like goes severely down and does get to a point where
I'm like, please stop. Like I will understand everything. I don't mind.
I would never judge you for going back to an X someone that's shitty,
or like forgiving something that's even unforgivable. Like I'm very understanding and I'm
not judgmental, So I'm not gonna be the ones like, well, I'm
not fucking with that person until it does until I see you like get to
that point. So I guess like for that too, it's like hard for
me to like talk to other people about too, because I'm just like,
I give you this grace, like y'all need to give me this grace because
and I also just feel like my thing wasn't that serious. That's a point
where like obviously it annoyed me enough to talk to you guys and like talk
about my podcast, but at the same time. That's how also not serious.
It was that I could talk about it on the podcast, not saying
I don't talk to you guys listeners about serious shit, because I do,
but like I don't know if it was like really big to the point where
I'm like crying, I don't know, I would I kind of think twice
about it, sorry, guys, Like I even have this problem on the
morning show, Like there was stuff where I'm like, I don't want to
talk about this because I'm dealing with it now, like it actually does hurt
my feelings and like I wouldn't be okay if like you know, JV or
someone just wanted to call him right now, Like I'm like, oh,
that's kind of like because that like we're like in this play, yeah,
you know like this yeah, Like so like that stuff. And in this
industry that is hard to balance because you do need to share, like and
there's people who do share a lot of personal stuff with grace and shout out
to them for doing it that way. I just haven't found the way to
do that, especially me, like I'm single, and like, you know,
it's weird exactly. There's peopleho don't take seriously where it's like I don't
even care to talk about this person because they're not that serious, you know,
and like I'm almost like, you know, that would give them their
head big just to know I'm talking about them. Yeah, it's not that
serious, but it is just content. Now we're going out to another situation.
But I don't know back to the whole like oversharing. I guess I'm
just like I feel like and so I know my friends just care about me
in my specific situation, but I'm just like, oh my god, it's
really not that serious, like but you like they're treating me like I'm like
taking this like terrible X back. I feel like, Also, maybe it's
because this is the only person you've been talking about, right, So it's
they're like maybe they're making it seem like like it's like a like a serious
theme because this is the one and only person right potentially and he's like the
only person I'm dating right now. Yeah, so maybe that's why it's more
of like a like like he's kind of grown leave him, like, you
know, because he's the only one. Like, so maybe they think that
it's more serious than it is. Also because in this situation about your nail
tech, like you didn't update her like how we were updated, right,
I'm sure like if you left out a whole bunch of those details and told
me about it, and I'm still gonna be like he is not like please
drop him. There are other fish in the seagull friend. Yeah. But
then on your end, it's like, yeah, like you're just having fun.
But I don't really necessarily that it's in the middle, Like I'm not
saying he's nobody. I'm just like I like this person and yeah, maybe
down the road if that was, but like it's not a conversation right now,
and how do I can't even picture like having a boyfriend right now?
Still, But I get what you're saying, Like it's like, well,
this this person potentially could be your boyfriend in the future, like obviously if
you're gonna getind your day hend Like that's what at least to if you're either
gonna break up or you guys are gonna be in a relationship, so that
it is fair. Yeah, And also, like what you said earlier,
you're telling the notes that you're kind of updating them after you've already processed that,
you know what I mean, Like you you when you told us,
it was kind of almost in real time, and that's what made an Exactly
you're showing you and your feelings and how you're thinking about it in that moment.
A month later you're kind of like, oh, yeah, that happened,
but I'm not there anymore. Right, You're gonna tell the story,
same story, just different different emotions, different passion, different the way you
tell it. And that's what I even work because honestly, when you're in
it, like I do want the energy for my friends. I want to
hear if it's really bad or if I'm tripping, because like my feelings are
hurt right now and I'm dealing with it right now, and I need to
know, like I need advice for my friends, and I need the same
energy reciprocated. But I guess when yeah, exactly, it's something that like
I've already dealt with and like now we're past it, like kind of bringing
me back now, like that energy of like hmmm, well you forget,
but I didn't, Like this is what's something happened. I'm like, oh
fuck, well now it's bring me back to that place of how I felt.
It's like, well I chose to be over it, so like we
got to move forward because I'm living for it right right, you know,
but I could see where they no text coming from, but not in her
defense, but yeah yeah, but also like let's be real, we live
in a time where like every little thing could almost be a red flag or
a reason not to go for something. And then again, people with your
friends, people that love you, they're gonna they're gonna think you deserve everything,
which you probably do, and but every little thing is gonna be like,
well, I don't know about this. I don't know about that,
to the point where like you forget that we're human and people people fuck up
people. There's you're learning just as much. You know, my friend's known
me for ten years. This girl I'm dating is a month. Like there's
a lot to cover, you know. So I think another part that like
I guess her my feelings are maybe annoyed about it. And again it's like
not everyone is like you, and not everyone has the same politics or like
same understanding or same judgment morals whatever the hell. But like, for example,
I have another friend and like now is done with her relationship. But
I remember when she was taking him back for something I thought that was whack,
or even though I felt she could do better once I knew she forgave
him, I never was like after that, Okay, well girl, he's
trash, like I forgave him with her, or at least moved on.
Like even if I'm in the back of my head like that, God does
not deserve my friend. I'm not telling her that because I don't want her
to feel like I don't hate him, because I don't hate him. I
don't understand. I was not coming from a place I hate. I just
think you could do better. And I'm like I'm hoping, like because I
know you're still in it, I'm almost hoping, like Okay, I'm just
like praying he gets it together because like, obviously you're still in this,
so like I hope you work out. I don't necessarily hate him, and
like, I don't want my friend to feel like she can't talk to me
about her boyfriend anymore, or like feel like I hate him, or it
just be awkward when we talk about it, or even like when we all
go out. I don't want her to think I'm like to hate her friend,
you know, and or or even make her feel bad about her chusing
to forget him and like staying in this relationship. And again this is there's
layers like yeah, obviously, like there's more stuff where like maybe someone doesn't
need to feel bad about the relationship or or maybe you need to set a
boundary of like actually I'm not okay with this as your friend, but like
for little relationshipship that we all deal with, like no one is perfect,
like you said, like people do action. Unfortunately, there's not a perfect
person. So I guess that kind of annoyed me too, Like it's like
I do that for my friends, Like I just didn't like the energy.
I guess it was very much like he sucks. It kind of was like
I'm not accepting of him. Almost a little man but already off the bat,
you know. Yeah. But then I guess so the other extent,
maybe she's like, well does isn't even your boyfriends like to say that,
Like I'm doing this? Girls, Just listen, why are you talking back?
Are you talking about? You're right? You're right. I mean,
it's it's hard. You have to. You have to if you are someone
that's an open book, like I think I am in a lot of things.
It's just there's certain parts of my life that I'm like, well,
I kind of already dealt with this, so I don't really Yeah, I
try to tell or felt the need to bring it up anymore because it already
happened. You know, I forgot I was gonna say with that, but
it was good. It'll come back to you what I will say. I
think going away, like obviously I'm not gonna be like when I's gonna become
this crazy private person doesn't share anything because like that that's just it's just not
me and I I'm solo, So I like talk. I like updating my
friends about my relationships and my family about my relationships, and like even if
it's like something left casual, like I still like talking about it because this
is someone I'm talking to every day or hanging out with every weekend, Like
it's part of my life. I want my friends know about it. But
I will say, maybe I'm like going to pick and choose like the stuff
I share to you, Like maybe not every single friend needs to know about
this one issue I'm going through, depending how they act, like like my
like my guy cousins that were kind of talking about like like they're not gonna
judge me, for that and not inn and they do want the best for
me, and like, honestly, trust me, I feel something serious.
They would be like fuck that guy, but like something like this though,
tink a lot about it because they already thought I was kind of overreacting in
the beginning, not overreacting, but they were very much like why don't you
just text them? You know, like we're over here talking about it,
you know, like it's okay to just send a text be like what the
fuck what's up? Like did you die? You know, like let's just
get to the point of it, and you know, and then they and
then they like make jokes like like they were sending me ghost emojis all day,
but like if I'm sure they know what I'm talking to them, and
like they're not gonna be like this guy, you know, like they're not
gonna give me a hard time about it either, And like I think I
just need to pick and choose, like who is who can hear me on
and who knows how I'm thinking? And then people that know you enough to
know where you're coming from too, you know, yeah, like exactly like
that maybe not hold it against me, and like all I'm not I'm not
just picking on a nail tech like no, no, no, yeah,
several situations and I'm probably still gonna keep talking to about shit kind of because
what you already said, like you're gonna take in all that advice off what
everyone has, right, but you kind of we all already kind of know
what we want to do anywhere at the end of the day. Is just
a way to be like, Okay, well let me just see what's out
there. But at the end of the day, what I usually what you
already think is right for you. Yeah, and like what you're gonna deal
with And I honestly like it was a little blessing too. There's stuff I
was just thinking about in the back of my head that she said, and
I'm like, you know what later on like literally this morning, it's like
I needed to hear that, Like, Okay, it's a little true,
but like how I'm gonna deal with it is different, and how I feel
about it is different. And like back to what Emma back in the day,
not Emma, oh my god, her just because it was my other
white friend, Emily, Okay, very similar, okay, similar days MMA's
one, but the st Emily back to her short of like I'm just not
done with this person. I think that's like, that's what it is.
I still want a day to have fun. So yeah, I came to
an epiphany. Actually just now, I think it has to do with the
only child thing that's I don't really share because I just feel like I just,
Yeah, growing up, I just dealt with everything on my own.
I had no siblings to like talk to, like, didn't really talk to
my friends about things, didn't really talk to my family about things, so
like I don't really know to talk to talk to my friends. So I
just handled everything on my own. So I feel like that's really that's how
you grew up. Yeah, And I feel like, and like you said,
Angelina, when I do tell you stuff or when I did, like
in the past, it was like when I had like my final like straws,
I was trying to like talk talk it out. It's like when I
need to, I guess, so like when I feel like I don't like
we're about to meet that person, You're like, hey, I'm talking those
guys like whatever. Yeah, when like I didn't feel like I needed to
because I could handle it it like internally on my own, right, right,
so yeah, I feel like that's how I feel about it. So
no one is knowing, No one is going to meet my future boot until
like our engagement but when yellow meet him period, Okay yeah probably, I
don't know, maybe not. Yeah, I disagree engaging because you are really
close with your friends. I am like when you're dating someone eventually, like
when you get to a certain point. Yeah, early stages, totally get
it. But like if you're dating, you want to bring them around.
You're going to hide this person. But my friends joke around and be like,
yeah, Angelique, I guess we're not going to know him until your
engagement party till do you want that? You want your friends to meet your
future husband? No, my daughter. Yeah, but it's seeming like healthy
on both ends, like of not saying anything and saying too much, Like
there is a middle that I feel like is healthy. Both both can be
extremes for sure, right, and it can be yeah. Yeah, I
remember I had a best friend in high school and like her family was so
so private, like to the point where like they get mad if you like
said anything about anything, Like I don't know it was, I remember noticing
it kind of and then I'll never forget my other friend like dated to because
she was like, oh my god, their family's so private, right,
And I was like, oh so it's like a known thing. That's how
private they were yea. And yeah, it was just like we don't talk
about every day, we don't talk about family issues. And I think it
really is just how you grown up. I don't maybe, I mean,
I know, you guy said your only child, but like in me and
this girl's you know, comparisons, like she has a big Mexican family.
I have a big Mexican family. She has older brothers. I'm the oldest
sister, but we all have siblings. Yeah, And like I think it's
just how we were raised. Like my mom is very like me and mom
tell each other everything, and we're very much like talking family. We're gonna
talk about our problems. If we're gonna fight, we're gonna have a meeting
afterwards, and we're talking about who was wrong, and like you know,
we're all gonna apologize to each other, like wons to like discipline us.
She would like spake us and then like talk make you talk to her after
yeah, like about why like what why and where what hurt your feelings?
Yeah, and and like maybe my friend in high school, like maybe that's
not her family was because they're very like we don't we have family. Probably
we don't talk about it. No one knows about the issues that are going
on in this house, which is respectable to but it just is completely different
from my household. Yeah, because I will say this, I have a
huge family, and I think one of the reasons why I'm also very private
is because of how close we are, like to the point where like sometimes
I don't want everyone to know everything, or like like like we always have
a joke me and my cousins, how like if we tell our mom something,
all my theas are going to find out something about it, nothing crazy,
nothing big. We just make it as a joke because it's true.
We'll say something and like my thea is gonna know some my my cousin's gonna
know. They already knew because I already told them. It becomes that,
you know. So I think that's one way that like me and and the
specific set of cousins that I have, that we're kind of like we need
to, you know, but we don't love how close how much people find
out about things. Everyone's going I trust my family and everything, but I
don't care to hear what all of them have to say. So like a
media family and like the whole family, and like going back to the only
child thing. I have cousins that I'm really close to, but I didn't
live in the same city they did, so like you go through yourself,
you process it, and then when I see my cousin, there's things I
talk about to them, but already happened. I'm not there anymore. I'm
just telling you about it because I'm close to and I'm updating you about my
life, right I mean, And it's all fun until it's your problem,
Like of course I want to you know, whatever's problems and blah blah did
last night? Yeah, family know about this. I don't know if you
if you do too, But I have like the the some people in our
family that's like they know they're in everybody's business, but to them, they
don't want everybody to know anything. And it's like, no, if you're
gonna be an open family, you got it. We all got to do
it, you know, right, the pros and cos are having a big
family. Oh yeah, you could be mad about it, but to an
extent, you gotta be like, well, this is just family exactly.
My family is pretty like private. I don't know if it's to the point
where your friends like how your friends was, but we don't, like I
don't personally. Yeah, I guess it's how I was raised, but I
don't personally tell other people like our family issues. No one really knows,
like what goes on, like like our internal like fights and stuff, and
I don't know. I guess, yeah, just how I grew up and
how my family was, like no one knows, like it's interesting or like
my whole family could be broken, like no one talks to anybody, and
y'all wouldn't even know, right, see, my family's opposite, like we
know, we know too. I think it's a cultural thing though, because
at least for us, like all my family, it's only a few generations
back that they were also the same little village that everybody knew everything, even
when you don't want even if you didn't tell them, you know, yeah,
and it kind of just passes on. And then now that we're here
and all scattered, we still yeah, you know, yeah, I don't
know how you think from us, I think, you know, maybe it
is and maybe my friend. Her family was like very private because exactly because
of that reason, like, well, we know we have a nosy family,
so we need to be as private as possible because just like her immediate
family that was that way. But like for media, family is a big
household. She had like two brothers, like she was like the only girl
or hurt. She had another older sister, but like hella siblings, you
know, like and say with me, like I got my brother and my
sister, like my mom, my stepdad. We got an uncle living in
the garage, you know, like like brother's house. So like it's like
even though I have a little family, like it's a big little family in
this one household. So yeah, I mean it is just interesting. I
don't think that I necessarily like have a solution to this conversation we brought up.
Like it's literally just a conversation. Yeah, and it's interesting, Like
yeah, it all goes back to like how you're raised and like how you
acted when you were younger and like amongst your friends. And I've always been
like an oversharer. I'm an open book and I don't think and vice versa,
like you know with someone that's private, I don't think it's like bad
or good on either end. Like, I think there's a lot of pros
to like being a private person obviously, like seeing the other side, like
my cons, but I also like love that I'm an open person too,
and I've seen the reward of it going back to so yeah, it's just
interesting. Yeah, any interesting. That's a topic for today. If you
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closer to you, guys, now we just really opened up. Okay,
so surprised. I've been this guy for like a year or so. I
was kidding. If you came to us with something like that, I would
have never guessed. That's how much of right now I think of you and
be like, oh, she's single either, I don't know. I really
don't know about I remember when she came out that she had a boyfriend.
We were all like we found out at her birthday because he was there,
and everyone was like, she has a boyfriend, and I'm like, yeah,
like five years like this, No, I did like hiding from your
coworkers because the workplace different, but like I'm like her power of being that
private, like workers don't watch it, you know. No, but that's
what I feel like. Okay, I won't wait until marriage or proposal,
but I'm gonna pop out like your coworker of dating for five years and then
everyone was gonna be shook, like, yeah, I got a man.
Yeah. And also he was like kind, so she probably didn't want to
like wrap him like that. Like I'm wanting place to brag about you.
But you guys have dated. We're just bad people and I didn't want to
know. I'm just kidding. I definitely, I don't know. I don't
know, but I feel that too, Like I think there are some people
who I know I definitely don't take seriously and like exactly like we make these
days like obviously for the podcast to protect them. But even when I'm talking
to my friends, I'll be like, oh, slow bay, like because
I don't care about like this is this person I'm not dating I don't take
seriously, is like a hook of one and done kind of not one and
done, but like exactly like my boyfriend and Dan, we don't even want
to go on dates with you. You know, there's there's some people you
just don't take seriously, and yeah, you choose at least I guess.
I don't choose to not talk about them, but I choose how I talk
about them, Yes, yes, and in the context I talk about them,
and how much I talk about them. So there's layers. There's layers
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