WEBVTT 1 00:00:37.079 --> 00:00:42.840 Well here we are. Everyone happy CFL preseason day here kicking off in about 2 00:00:42.880 --> 00:00:47.520 three hours. I think they're monitoring the weather, the smoke from the fires 3 00:00:47.600 --> 00:00:51.200 up there in Calgary scene. If we're going to get the CFL on today, 4 00:00:51.479 --> 00:00:54.240 bide in a little bit of time here at the beginning. Pats pulling 5 00:00:54.240 --> 00:00:57.079 into his house right now. But I'd like to start these streams on time. 6 00:00:57.119 --> 00:01:00.280 So we're going to talk a little CFL preseason wait for Pat. We're 7 00:01:00.320 --> 00:01:03.319 gonna do the full USFL Week six breakdown today. Very exciting, and I 8 00:01:03.319 --> 00:01:07.840 watched most of the games. You know, McCloud struggling a little bit, 9 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:11.319 you know, Stars one. How great of a win was it? I 10 00:01:11.319 --> 00:01:15.599 don't know. We will talk to all that. Just had a tremendously interesting 11 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:21.239 Twitter DM conversation here. I will tell you if you are ready for CFL 12 00:01:21.319 --> 00:01:23.640 coverage here after we get you know, it'll be here in the USFL and 13 00:01:23.719 --> 00:01:26.480 preseason and all of that. But if you are ready for some high quality 14 00:01:26.560 --> 00:01:30.480 CFL content, I have a lot of stuff in stort. Just had a 15 00:01:30.480 --> 00:01:34.680 tremendously exciting Twitter DM conversation literally moments before hopping out here, So very excited 16 00:01:34.719 --> 00:01:38.959 about that. Chris is checking in here, he's saying, let's go. 17 00:01:38.560 --> 00:01:42.879 Jenna also checking in. Jenna should be happy her show boats. You know, 18 00:01:44.040 --> 00:01:48.879 just absolutely kick the kick the crowd out of the Mauler's gonnam Mall. 19 00:01:48.959 --> 00:01:52.040 I think Maulers came back down to earth. Here. We're getting some good 20 00:01:52.040 --> 00:01:55.319 reps for Matt Mangel, friend of the show, Plenting. I don't know 21 00:01:55.560 --> 00:01:59.000 much else that the Maulers have going for them right now. But while I 22 00:01:59.040 --> 00:02:00.519 have you all here, you know, sure like can subscribe. I get 23 00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:05.040 us up to thirty five hundred, could still win tickets to the USL Championship 24 00:02:05.079 --> 00:02:07.479 game. But if you are saying, read I have nothing to do today, 25 00:02:07.759 --> 00:02:13.039 if you go to CFL dot dot c a slash preseason Live, I 26 00:02:13.080 --> 00:02:15.879 already did this. I signed up to check it out. Preseason CFL football 27 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:20.560 kicks off today. You can watch the Edmonton Elex at Calgary Saint Peter's here 28 00:02:21.159 --> 00:02:23.759 for Eastern one Pacific, free to stream. All I gotta do is put 29 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:27.919 in your email. We're gonna try this out. You know, CFL I 30 00:02:27.919 --> 00:02:31.400 have lots of interviews lined up this week for our regular show talking you know, 31 00:02:31.479 --> 00:02:35.319 is it a good idea for the CFL to give away half their broadcast 32 00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:38.879 schedule free. I don't know yet. I don't know if I give you 33 00:02:38.919 --> 00:02:42.199 people on here, you know, sign up with an email watch the games. 34 00:02:42.240 --> 00:02:44.479 I don't know if that's a good idea or not. We're going to 35 00:02:44.520 --> 00:02:47.479 find that out. But currently you can watch all the CFL preseason games, 36 00:02:47.520 --> 00:02:52.479 including the one today, So if you're watching this CFL dot c A slash 37 00:02:52.479 --> 00:02:54.800 preseason live could not be easier. I already signed up and did all that, 38 00:02:55.120 --> 00:02:59.439 so be sure to check that out. Oh yeah, yeah, we're 39 00:02:59.439 --> 00:03:02.120 getting comments here. We'll talk to USFL. But anyway, very excited for 40 00:03:02.159 --> 00:03:06.599 the CFL season. Very excited for preseason. I don't know if I'll be 41 00:03:06.599 --> 00:03:10.639 like watching all the all the preseason games starting to finish, but certainly exciting. 42 00:03:10.719 --> 00:03:15.159 And I have some really great guests lined up coverage this week and next. 43 00:03:15.360 --> 00:03:19.479 We're going to have a live show for our pregame for the CFL on 44 00:03:19.560 --> 00:03:22.840 the APH. Have some special guests for that, and then I also have 45 00:03:22.879 --> 00:03:24.080 a special show. I still got to talk with Andy about it, but 46 00:03:24.120 --> 00:03:27.759 Andy and I are gonna have a Andy, We're gonna have another live episode 47 00:03:27.759 --> 00:03:30.479 coming up here that fits into your schedule, but really excited here. I 48 00:03:30.479 --> 00:03:35.039 see Pat's Pat's hopping on. We'll make sure he's all squared away here. 49 00:03:35.560 --> 00:03:39.560 Jennis Mike says USFL was a rough watch this weekend. I don't want to 50 00:03:39.599 --> 00:03:43.960 be negative, so we'll see if Pat feels the same way. And then 51 00:03:44.039 --> 00:03:47.800 Darren says, what's up with USFL offenses should be mess better? I agree, 52 00:03:47.840 --> 00:03:50.520 I agree. We'll talk through all that. Pat, Can you give 53 00:03:50.520 --> 00:03:53.520 me a thumbs up if you're ready? Cool? Pat is here, Let's 54 00:03:53.599 --> 00:03:57.039 bring this down. Let's bring in Pat. Pat, how are you doing? 55 00:03:57.080 --> 00:04:04.280 And you are muted? Okay? Pat is still muted. Looks like 56 00:04:04.319 --> 00:04:11.599 he is also frozen. So we're back. I think you're I think you're 57 00:04:12.280 --> 00:04:15.639 yeah. Pat, your connections way off here? Sorry about that, Pat? 58 00:04:15.919 --> 00:04:17.399 Just calling from your phone? Calling from your phone? Here. Let 59 00:04:17.399 --> 00:04:20.480 me pull up the USFL schedule here. We can start getting into this stuff. 60 00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:23.759 Let's just see a pack and calling on his phone. Seems like his 61 00:04:23.879 --> 00:04:29.240 internet connection little wonky here. Uh, let's get down to where we're at 62 00:04:29.279 --> 00:04:31.439 week six. This is always fun for these live shows. We'll get through 63 00:04:31.439 --> 00:04:35.439 it. We'll get through it here. Um. So, first off, 64 00:04:35.480 --> 00:04:40.079 we had the Pittsburgh Bawlers coming in Pittsburgh, you know, had not played 65 00:04:40.120 --> 00:04:44.959 as horrendously as they have last season. Still struggling a little bit, showboats 66 00:04:44.959 --> 00:04:48.959 putting on the clinic, a shutout, we had the ill fated longest that 67 00:04:49.079 --> 00:04:53.959 touchdown kickoff return, you know, kick in whatever, one hundred and eight 68 00:04:54.079 --> 00:04:56.360 yards, all of that. I don't know if that was a good thing 69 00:04:56.439 --> 00:04:58.959 or a bad thing for the USFL to hang their hat on, but certainly 70 00:04:59.040 --> 00:05:01.600 tremendous fell really bad for the Bawlers. I felt, like, you know, 71 00:05:01.959 --> 00:05:04.600 it was there trying to do all of that, trying to okay, 72 00:05:04.680 --> 00:05:09.120 let's get some points record before we go into halftime. Certainly did work out, 73 00:05:09.120 --> 00:05:11.639 all right? I think Pat's on. Now, let's get Pat again 74 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:15.040 here. He's still typing on here. Let's Pat, We got you here? 75 00:05:15.399 --> 00:05:18.920 Are we doing this time? Guys? Perfect? We're perfect? First 76 00:05:18.920 --> 00:05:24.639 off, guys, A thousand apologies for being late. Um it was I 77 00:05:24.639 --> 00:05:27.360 don't know, you know, I'm paying almost two hundred dollars in Wi Fi 78 00:05:27.519 --> 00:05:30.759 and everything. You would think it would work right, It's okay, it's 79 00:05:30.759 --> 00:05:33.040 okay, Pat, are you do you? You know we talk here, 80 00:05:33.120 --> 00:05:35.120 Let me get let me get this off here. We'll do a little back. 81 00:05:35.279 --> 00:05:38.600 We either we talk back and forth. Hey, we're going live this 82 00:05:38.639 --> 00:05:41.160 week, we got to talk to you as well. What do you make 83 00:05:41.199 --> 00:05:44.040 of us about week six? Are we are we where the league should be 84 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:47.680 currently? I don't know, man, because and this is my biggest thing 85 00:05:47.800 --> 00:05:51.480 is what what is the expectation? I don't think we have expectations right, 86 00:05:51.920 --> 00:05:56.839 And that's something that bothers me a little bit because we don't care about the 87 00:05:56.959 --> 00:06:00.240 tendons. Well, what are what are the ratings? Like, what your 88 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:04.279 expectations for the ratings? Like I'm curious to see and they obviously haven't come 89 00:06:04.279 --> 00:06:10.959 out yet, and like the percentages and whatnot, right, because you can 90 00:06:11.160 --> 00:06:15.639 you could throw three hundred thousand people at their TV screens and that's great if 91 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:19.839 your expectation was two ninety. But if you're expecting five hundred, it doesn't 92 00:06:19.879 --> 00:06:25.000 matter if you get ten millions. If you're expecting fifteen million, then you 93 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:29.360 you know this doing media and film and whatnot. Oh, this movie made 94 00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:32.759 one hundred one hundred million dollars. Well, Avatar spent five billion dollars to 95 00:06:32.800 --> 00:06:38.160 make it. That's that number isn't sexy anymore so as far as with the 96 00:06:38.199 --> 00:06:45.480 football play. One person I would really want to focus in on is McLeod 97 00:06:45.480 --> 00:06:50.319 Bethel Thompson, and I'm very curious to see if, because he played a 98 00:06:50.399 --> 00:06:55.680 full slate of games last year, a full season, because there's what eighteen 99 00:06:55.720 --> 00:07:00.519 regular season games and then twenty twenty one in the playoffs, if he's starting 100 00:07:00.519 --> 00:07:03.360 to have some fatigue something about these breakers quarterbacks in the back half of the 101 00:07:03.399 --> 00:07:06.160 season. You know, we saw that with Slower last year as well, 102 00:07:06.199 --> 00:07:11.240 and he was a guy who bounced around a lot of NFL teams and whatnot 103 00:07:11.319 --> 00:07:15.000 in twenty twenty one. So I'm very curious to see if that's some fatigue 104 00:07:15.439 --> 00:07:20.120 with that overall. I mean, you're seeing some of these defenders ball out 105 00:07:20.439 --> 00:07:27.839 to do really well, but is that the Is that the equation of great 106 00:07:27.959 --> 00:07:34.519 play or is it the equation of just poor offense and being put into situations. 107 00:07:34.560 --> 00:07:39.199 I've been on the record on this in the USFL, especially, some 108 00:07:39.279 --> 00:07:43.319 of these wide receivers are true fringe NFL guys, Like it seems like every 109 00:07:43.360 --> 00:07:46.079 team has two guys at that position where I'm like, yeah, that guy 110 00:07:46.079 --> 00:07:49.879 could easily fill in in the late season, be a contributor and whatnot. 111 00:07:50.399 --> 00:07:59.279 So I'm very curious to see what the actual and helped me out using the 112 00:07:59.319 --> 00:08:03.600 correct word because I didn't finish my four year degree. Is the disassociation maybe 113 00:08:03.720 --> 00:08:09.319 of the translation between their play to the quarterback, Like you know, by 114 00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:11.480 week six, we should be like Chris, like we saw that Josh Love 115 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:15.439 mishap at the end of the half, and I'm kind of just like, 116 00:08:16.360 --> 00:08:18.519 what's going on here? You know, on the on the bright side of 117 00:08:18.519 --> 00:08:22.480 the kicking, like the actual field goal kicking is way improved from last year. 118 00:08:22.519 --> 00:08:26.720 And I know everyone can bring up the chips, but there was some 119 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:31.720 bad kicking after the chips were removed. So I'm really and I talked with 120 00:08:31.800 --> 00:08:35.120 Mike Mitchell about this all the time. Is the way you air quote make 121 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:37.200 your money in these leagues as far as oh, we sent this guy to 122 00:08:37.240 --> 00:08:41.879 the NFL, is always going to be your specialist? Yeah, no, 123 00:08:43.000 --> 00:08:45.519 I know what you're saying. It's it's hard because and you know, and 124 00:08:45.559 --> 00:08:48.240 I never want to come on in in poo poo any of this stuff. 125 00:08:48.279 --> 00:08:50.480 I watched three of the games this weekend. I had a wedding Saturday night, 126 00:08:50.519 --> 00:08:54.519 so I missed the Birmingham you know, Panthers. I want to talk 127 00:08:54.519 --> 00:08:58.799 about that. You know, Panthers can't seemingly win it home, you know, 128 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:01.080 but I hear and I had messages yesterday, you know, uh, 129 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:05.799 they should be further along now. I've also get messages when the XFL was 130 00:09:05.879 --> 00:09:09.159 just as bad. People have brows cover. I don't know if having the 131 00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:13.840 attendance there sweetens that, but it is hard to watch like that breakers game, 132 00:09:15.240 --> 00:09:18.399 them struggling coming down the field either we each have one drive each and 133 00:09:18.480 --> 00:09:22.159 in the quarter or whatever, and there's not a lot of fanfare, and 134 00:09:22.399 --> 00:09:24.639 it's just hard. It's I don't know if if if even the limited crowds 135 00:09:24.639 --> 00:09:28.240 that the XFL that made it better or worse. I don't know if that 136 00:09:28.320 --> 00:09:31.840 kind of hides out of it at all. I'm also having an issue with 137 00:09:31.919 --> 00:09:37.919 the officiating and and it just and this is kind of the double edged sword 138 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:41.039 right where it's like I don't want guys getting tackled down field. But like 139 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:45.960 case cook is, I think through three scored three touchdowns yesterday, I don't 140 00:09:45.960 --> 00:09:48.159 he scored two. I think there was one he was close on and it 141 00:09:48.279 --> 00:09:52.919 got called back on the passing play, and I'm like, dude, like 142 00:09:52.960 --> 00:09:56.679 what do you like? And like there's holding on every play, there's there's 143 00:09:56.799 --> 00:10:03.000 rough housing on every play. The unnecessary roughness, the taunting. I get 144 00:10:03.039 --> 00:10:05.200 it. You know, I was hoping because of how aggressive they were, 145 00:10:05.720 --> 00:10:11.240 it was gonna kind of keel it back a little bit, and it seems 146 00:10:11.279 --> 00:10:13.960 like guys are still doing whatever they want to do. Um, you know, 147 00:10:13.960 --> 00:10:16.080 I'm not get it. It's the heat of the moment. Like I've 148 00:10:16.120 --> 00:10:20.200 I've played competitive sports. You know, you make a big play, you 149 00:10:20.279 --> 00:10:24.639 knock someone down, you know you landed a good a good, a good 150 00:10:24.679 --> 00:10:26.360 strike on someone, like you're you're you're pumped about it. I get it, 151 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:31.799 But it just seems like every five minutes, like when you have an 152 00:10:31.799 --> 00:10:35.919 eleven yard rush and you do one of these and you accidentally hit the guy, 153 00:10:35.960 --> 00:10:37.679 they're calling a flag on it, and I'm like, I'm like, 154 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:41.559 dude, this is I mean, it's taunting. Yeah, but like I 155 00:10:41.639 --> 00:10:45.480 just ran over a bunch of grown men. I'm a Division three running back. 156 00:10:45.600 --> 00:10:48.120 No one thought I'd be playing pro football. Yeah, I'm a little 157 00:10:48.120 --> 00:10:52.639 excited about that, Like I'm not for all Like and you know, I'm 158 00:10:52.639 --> 00:10:56.480 gonna come off as like old man yelling at the sky, like I think 159 00:10:56.519 --> 00:11:00.720 the uh. When they get the interception and it's a three yard return and 160 00:11:00.799 --> 00:11:03.360 then everyone and their mother goes down to the other end zone, I'm like, 161 00:11:03.399 --> 00:11:07.960 okay, yeah, I get it, Like you know that that that 162 00:11:07.159 --> 00:11:11.399 kind of homers me a little bit because it gives me the fan control vibes 163 00:11:11.440 --> 00:11:15.879 where I'm like, bros, is this is enough? But it just, 164 00:11:16.080 --> 00:11:18.360 man like, it seems like every fifteen and a half seconds, there's a 165 00:11:18.600 --> 00:11:22.759 like I don't know how long that last like part of the Stars game took. 166 00:11:22.840 --> 00:11:26.279 Man Like, I was like trying to stay focused, but it was 167 00:11:26.320 --> 00:11:31.440 just getting annoying for me. Yeah, I never I never played a second 168 00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:35.440 of confetitive sports ever. I can't even found that I played a little league 169 00:11:35.480 --> 00:11:39.679 baseball. I was placed out in left field or right field. I was 170 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:43.639 sat the absolute maximum times they could sit any child that was allowed by the 171 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:48.039 bye lines of the you know, little league. So I didn't understand all 172 00:11:48.039 --> 00:11:52.519 of that, but I did enjoy that after the Cookies flip interception, which 173 00:11:52.039 --> 00:11:54.919 I believe that gentleman was out of balance. I think it still was on 174 00:11:54.919 --> 00:11:56.879 the line. We got the out of balance there, but yeah, they 175 00:11:56.879 --> 00:12:00.480 were celebrating. They're like they were two and a ten in the review, 176 00:12:00.519 --> 00:12:03.159 they go, I think they're still celebrating there in the end zone. They're 177 00:12:03.200 --> 00:12:07.519 just absolutely going crazy. It does feel and you're talking about the officiating. 178 00:12:07.600 --> 00:12:13.360 What's crazy to me is as bad as the officiating is. The XFL right 179 00:12:13.440 --> 00:12:18.200 had questionable officiated as well, but the USFL announcers complaining constantly about how bad 180 00:12:18.200 --> 00:12:20.320 the officiating is, or at least in the in the XFL, they kind 181 00:12:20.320 --> 00:12:22.320 of covered for Dean. They're like, oh, yeah, okay, I 182 00:12:22.360 --> 00:12:26.320 kind of see where Dean's coming from here. Like they they're constantly disagree with 183 00:12:26.360 --> 00:12:30.799 Mike. They're constantly disagreeing with the calls. They're constantly saying it should be 184 00:12:30.840 --> 00:12:33.159 the thing. I go, you shouldn't be you know, you should at 185 00:12:33.200 --> 00:12:37.039 least be kfabe for your own product. I'm like, no, this is 186 00:12:37.120 --> 00:12:39.440 right, Like we're okay with this, and then you can, you know, 187 00:12:39.519 --> 00:12:41.720 you can talk privately if there's if there's a problem with that, think 188 00:12:41.799 --> 00:12:45.399 man. But like at the same time, I kind of like I think, 189 00:12:46.159 --> 00:12:48.120 and we've talked about before, like Fox puts on a good product, 190 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:52.600 and why do they put on a good product? Thirty percent of that is 191 00:12:52.639 --> 00:12:56.360 because of the because because of the analysts right, the color played by play, 192 00:12:56.480 --> 00:13:00.759 and like I kind of got annoyed with the shilling and thefl for the 193 00:13:00.840 --> 00:13:05.480 officiating, like if you're Jet and like, yeah, real real football, 194 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:11.320 real fans lines, um, I mean Faco lines all over the levels of 195 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:15.840 football. But like I kind of like the fact that like they're like, 196 00:13:15.919 --> 00:13:18.399 yeah, that's jacked up, Like don't show you know, like what the 197 00:13:18.519 --> 00:13:20.799 what they're gonna do? They're gonna fire Cam Jordan, you know, like 198 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:26.879 like I'm good with that. Like I think it kind of takes away. 199 00:13:26.440 --> 00:13:30.360 I don't WoT it takes away, but it kind of makes it a little 200 00:13:30.360 --> 00:13:35.039 bit more enjoyable to me, like, you know, like to see them 201 00:13:35.159 --> 00:13:37.879 not go with the flow on that, like be you're you're an adult, 202 00:13:39.039 --> 00:13:41.679 make your own decisions, and what are they gonna do? FI fire these 203 00:13:41.720 --> 00:13:46.679 guys. They're gonna fire brock Huard. Okay, Like I'm good with that, 204 00:13:46.840 --> 00:13:48.240 but this is just constant. It felt like it was constant yesterday. 205 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:52.080 It felt like every other thing with them disagreeing with the officiated. I'm like, 206 00:13:52.200 --> 00:13:54.120 he can we It's as bad as if you wanted to critique on the 207 00:13:54.279 --> 00:13:58.279 Hey, this guy wants to go to the NFL, like take a shot 208 00:13:58.399 --> 00:14:01.840 watching the XFL games the same thing, take a drink anytime that they had 209 00:14:01.879 --> 00:14:05.000 disagree with the officiated, the same level as far as just like yeah, 210 00:14:05.039 --> 00:14:09.360 I get it, like same level of like the betting, the betting and 211 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:13.519 talk the XFL. And like the biggest thing for me when we talked about 212 00:14:13.559 --> 00:14:18.360 the players was a I mean remember that Luke Marku game, like where they're 213 00:14:18.360 --> 00:14:22.279 like, if Luke Barku holds Josh Gordon to less than three catches, He's 214 00:14:22.279 --> 00:14:26.639 going to the NFL. And like that's kind of a meme in my mind. 215 00:14:26.840 --> 00:14:28.039 Like anytime, like I see a Luke Barku thing, I'm like, 216 00:14:28.080 --> 00:14:31.799 yeah, that guy's gonna go to the NFL because he held three catches. 217 00:14:31.799 --> 00:14:35.360 And I was like, not because of his other nine games that he had 218 00:14:35.399 --> 00:14:37.919 good coverage and has good you know, movement in his hips. It's because 219 00:14:37.960 --> 00:14:43.120 you know they that Yeah, that's that's the one reason. Yeah, okay 220 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:46.480 guy, Yeah, Mike, again, this is not my comments I get. 221 00:14:46.480 --> 00:14:48.879 I think I get a lot of I think a lot of people that 222 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:52.200 write into this show. I think I get like, oh this is I 223 00:14:52.240 --> 00:14:56.200 am not writing these things. Mike Prayers seems like he'd rather be anywhere else 224 00:14:56.279 --> 00:15:01.039 anytime they go to him. I again, I think Dean benefits from just 225 00:15:01.120 --> 00:15:05.879 being really good looking and charismatic. I think Dean can get away with you. 226 00:15:05.000 --> 00:15:07.440 Pat. You could say just now anything they mean you wanted, because 227 00:15:07.480 --> 00:15:11.759 see that's just Pat. This is driving back. But Mike comes off as 228 00:15:11.840 --> 00:15:16.399 like the lizard, you know, the troll, like the swamp lizard. 229 00:15:16.399 --> 00:15:20.159 There's like a right here, yeah, I mean, I mean there's there's 230 00:15:20.240 --> 00:15:24.559 pretty privilege, right like, I mean, how many times, and I 231 00:15:24.639 --> 00:15:28.039 hate to say this, you know how many times does you have a good 232 00:15:28.080 --> 00:15:31.200 looking guy say something at work doesn't get a lot of those eyebrows. But 233 00:15:31.399 --> 00:15:35.559 you know someone whose butt is in the front instead of the back and they 234 00:15:35.600 --> 00:15:39.200 say something and he's a creep, right Like, I mean that kind of 235 00:15:39.240 --> 00:15:43.039 get that same vibe as well. You know, Dean's Dean's got a good 236 00:15:43.080 --> 00:15:45.320 hairline going for him, you know, younger guy, you know, just 237 00:15:45.639 --> 00:15:48.919 enough of scruff, good jaw line. You know, let's oh, it's 238 00:15:48.919 --> 00:15:52.120 just Dean. He's cute. You know, it's fine. Look at him, 239 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:54.639 look him up there. So here's my question. So and then we'll 240 00:15:54.639 --> 00:15:56.840 get into all the games to do that'll get the game by game. Here 241 00:15:58.559 --> 00:16:00.200 are his his. I felt like we saw this a little bit in the 242 00:16:00.360 --> 00:16:03.039 XFL. You know, we saw like the Roughnecks, right and they kind 243 00:16:03.080 --> 00:16:06.919 of you know, crater toward the end of the season and people were kind 244 00:16:06.960 --> 00:16:08.840 of, uh, you know, I was told, people are catching up 245 00:16:08.840 --> 00:16:11.399 to a J. Smith, Right, the defenses are figuring this out. 246 00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:15.639 We saw that in the championship game, right, Arlington very prepared for DC. 247 00:16:15.799 --> 00:16:19.799 It kind of knew exactly are in the USFL are the offenses scaling down? 248 00:16:19.919 --> 00:16:23.159 Are the defense is getting that much better because they you know, Chris 249 00:16:23.240 --> 00:16:26.840 As, you're all, ax, the defense is improving more right now every 250 00:16:26.879 --> 00:16:30.480 game? But is it an offensive issue or is it the defense is improvement? 251 00:16:30.960 --> 00:16:33.679 I mean I think it's both. You know, Um, when I 252 00:16:33.799 --> 00:16:38.919 talked to two offensive coordinators in the beginning of the season, before you know, 253 00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:42.919 games started taking place for the USFL, you know, we're making a 254 00:16:42.960 --> 00:16:45.799 little bit of a joke back and forth. I was like, hey, 255 00:16:45.879 --> 00:16:48.000 you know, it's kind of the downtime. I was like, you got 256 00:16:48.039 --> 00:16:51.000 any articles, any guys you want me to highlight? And they're like, 257 00:16:51.120 --> 00:16:53.159 man, if you want to do an article about all these new coordinators and 258 00:16:53.279 --> 00:16:56.919 what schemes they were on. I aint against that, and it's like, 259 00:16:57.919 --> 00:17:03.039 you know, you're kind of seeing like you'd probably go to a base defense, 260 00:17:03.240 --> 00:17:06.960 you know, less exotic blitzays, less um, you know, stunts 261 00:17:07.039 --> 00:17:10.720 on the defensive lines where you're like, okay, So you know, give 262 00:17:10.759 --> 00:17:14.480 Bridland Speaks is a is a perfect example. Right, you have a guy 263 00:17:14.559 --> 00:17:18.880 like Speaks, everyone knows who he is, decent college pedigree, you know 264 00:17:18.039 --> 00:17:22.240 six, you know, obviously viewed as an NFL caliber player at one point. 265 00:17:23.720 --> 00:17:26.799 That's great, but like, what are you gonna do, like Kenny, 266 00:17:26.839 --> 00:17:30.079 actually still play. And now that you're seeing that you can still play, 267 00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:33.160 now we can get exotic. Now I can tell them to do some 268 00:17:33.319 --> 00:17:36.079 different things, but you know, before you're just gonna have them. Okay, 269 00:17:36.119 --> 00:17:40.599 man, you're an adult. Use that sec body, go wreck this 270 00:17:40.839 --> 00:17:44.400 left tackle from Farmington amu, you know what I mean. So it's like, 271 00:17:45.119 --> 00:17:48.200 now that these defenses are allowed to kind of expand on their role and 272 00:17:48.279 --> 00:17:52.000 whatnot, I feel I think that's a big part of it, to where 273 00:17:52.079 --> 00:17:56.640 the offense you could just you know, run some quick spread type of offense. 274 00:17:56.920 --> 00:18:02.440 And granted there's there's tons of intricacies in offense in both sides of the 275 00:18:02.480 --> 00:18:07.000 football. And I'm not down playing any offensive coordinator whatsoever. I coach offense 276 00:18:07.160 --> 00:18:11.720 like I'm a big offensive guy, but you're not dealing with as probably as 277 00:18:11.799 --> 00:18:15.640 much exotic blitzing as whatnot, because you can still run a decent like, 278 00:18:15.839 --> 00:18:19.440 Hey, our wide receiver beats their cornerback in the cover two, we're good. 279 00:18:19.799 --> 00:18:25.119 Like you saw a lot of seam routes like because probably in the early 280 00:18:25.200 --> 00:18:26.759 weeks, because it looks like they were playing a lot of Cover two. 281 00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:32.079 And when those safeties kicked back, you know, you can throw it right 282 00:18:32.119 --> 00:18:34.119 over the linebacker in front of the safety and there's eighteen yards. You do 283 00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:38.960 that five times, and all of a sudden you're in the red zone and 284 00:18:40.160 --> 00:18:45.160 you feel like now that it's there, they're not able to be as right 285 00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:47.759 there. They're catching up to that. Yeah, and then you can factor 286 00:18:47.839 --> 00:18:51.519 in as you know, then there's the key talking points that we can talk 287 00:18:51.559 --> 00:18:59.160 and nauseum fatigue, injuries, stuff like that at the receiver position, the 288 00:18:59.319 --> 00:19:03.440 offensive line position, regardless if you you know, shoot for the XFL or 289 00:19:03.480 --> 00:19:08.079 the USFL. If that guy was an NFL level offensive lineman, he'd have 290 00:19:08.160 --> 00:19:12.759 a futures deal, and offensive lineman will always be in short supply because they're 291 00:19:12.759 --> 00:19:18.000 in short supply for the thirty two franchises and whatnot. So I mean, 292 00:19:18.079 --> 00:19:22.440 the offensive line is always the bugaboo, right Like Carson Strong, like as 293 00:19:22.599 --> 00:19:26.799 talented, and I know there's a knee injury associated with him, as talented 294 00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:33.319 as he was, He's not playing against you know, his his you know, 295 00:19:33.720 --> 00:19:37.200 college offensive line, playing against guys who couldn't get past mini camp. 296 00:19:37.279 --> 00:19:41.319 And granted, I've never played at that level, so I don't want to 297 00:19:41.359 --> 00:19:44.960 come off as like a hater or anything like that, but it does like 298 00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:48.519 it takes a good quarterback and we're seeing it right now with case cook Is 299 00:19:49.039 --> 00:19:53.440 and it makes his stat line disgusting. Yeah, we're seeing a lot of 300 00:19:53.480 --> 00:19:57.079 comments in the chat here at USFL hate. I watched three of the games 301 00:19:57.119 --> 00:20:00.160 this week and no one, no one's hating. No one wants the USFL 302 00:20:00.319 --> 00:20:04.319 here and the months of you know post, you know, I want the 303 00:20:04.359 --> 00:20:07.839 CFL to be strong. I want the XML to be strong, or the 304 00:20:07.920 --> 00:20:10.720 USL because in that way we have things to talk about all year long. 305 00:20:10.759 --> 00:20:15.799 There's nothing I wanted more than the USFL to drop off. Rad is Bama 306 00:20:15.839 --> 00:20:18.839 Boy two oh five. I don't know who that is, but yeah, 307 00:20:18.880 --> 00:20:21.799 it's it's but that's you know, the whole thing here is is we want 308 00:20:21.839 --> 00:20:25.400 this to improve and to be better because you know, we'll see ratings tomorrow 309 00:20:25.440 --> 00:20:26.920 and how that comes out. But I want this to be strong because you 310 00:20:27.000 --> 00:20:30.640 want people to have interest in this. That is what what fills the news 311 00:20:30.720 --> 00:20:34.599 calendar the whole way through the year. Is not only that read like, 312 00:20:36.200 --> 00:20:41.680 you know, we're not We're not bringing in tens of thousands of dollars guys 313 00:20:41.759 --> 00:20:45.799 like you and I, But I mean writing about these leagues, writing about 314 00:20:45.880 --> 00:20:52.359 these players, meeting these players, like you know, I I and not 315 00:20:52.480 --> 00:20:56.240 to get too edgy, but like I literally just got out some DMS with 316 00:20:56.400 --> 00:21:03.319 some player personnel people in both these leagues, and I want I want any 317 00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:07.400 person that I come in contact that I feel like, hey man, I 318 00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:10.640 could vouch for. Like granted, like there's a lot of people in both 319 00:21:10.680 --> 00:21:15.200 our dms and a lot of people's dms who hate to be disrespectful, don't 320 00:21:15.240 --> 00:21:18.200 have any business being on this level of football. But I want these players 321 00:21:18.279 --> 00:21:25.039 to succeed. I want these coaches to succeed. Someone that I love and 322 00:21:25.519 --> 00:21:29.519 you know, love to see succeeds. The offensive coordinator Eric Marty. I 323 00:21:29.559 --> 00:21:33.839 would love to see him in like San Diego or excuse me, La with 324 00:21:33.960 --> 00:21:36.880 the Chargers. You know, he's a great quarterback. Mind. These are 325 00:21:36.960 --> 00:21:42.960 there's so many good human beings that are part of the USFL that I want 326 00:21:44.000 --> 00:21:48.519 them to have those jobs. I want Mike Nolan to be for the Panthers, 327 00:21:48.799 --> 00:21:52.440 god knows how long, so he could keep bringing up coaches like coach 328 00:21:52.519 --> 00:21:57.759 Bauer and Christian runs A and create like better lifestyles for them so they can 329 00:21:57.799 --> 00:22:02.000 go and live their dream and then when they're done coaching in the NFL, 330 00:22:02.480 --> 00:22:04.759 come back to the USFL and do the next batch. Like t J. 331 00:22:06.000 --> 00:22:10.839 Barnes of the Arlington Renegades just called it quits in his career because of the 332 00:22:11.079 --> 00:22:15.599 XFL, not because he couldn't play, but because he used that that league 333 00:22:15.079 --> 00:22:22.160 to essentially get his life together and like, you know, win a championship 334 00:22:22.279 --> 00:22:27.200 like Louis come on, Luis Perez, like both successful in both these leagues. 335 00:22:27.279 --> 00:22:32.880 Man, like that, you know it's not it's like it's no different 336 00:22:32.920 --> 00:22:34.559 than when you're working out trying to better your life, man, and like 337 00:22:34.680 --> 00:22:38.000 yeah, I've lost ten pounds, but like okay, like you want to 338 00:22:38.039 --> 00:22:41.119 get a little bit more fit, Like okay, I'm not benching as much, 339 00:22:41.200 --> 00:22:44.880 I'm not squatting as much. These aren't critiques to be a hater. 340 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:48.559 They're critiques because I want these leads to survive, because I love covering these 341 00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:52.640 teams and you know, like you know, the other day, you know, 342 00:22:52.759 --> 00:22:56.160 depth charts for a big thing, you know, for us, and 343 00:22:56.319 --> 00:22:59.559 like you know, it took us five weeks and like you know, we 344 00:22:59.640 --> 00:23:03.559 went for being haters the champions like that kid Will he's not kid who's probably 345 00:23:03.599 --> 00:23:07.319 ten years older than both of us, but Will Harris, that gentleman who 346 00:23:07.440 --> 00:23:12.079 makes these these free games stuff like like that was something the XFL game to 347 00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:17.640 us as candy and this guy is taking the time out of his day to 348 00:23:17.759 --> 00:23:21.480 do it, Like come like champion, this guy. You know what I 349 00:23:21.559 --> 00:23:23.319 mean? I did, Like how that one thing got the depth charts out. 350 00:23:23.319 --> 00:23:26.240 I got people tweeting me like, oh there you go reading like yeah, 351 00:23:26.400 --> 00:23:32.759 there, there you go exactly like who who who complained all last year 352 00:23:32.839 --> 00:23:37.000 and then got uh a USFL podcast and Mark and there were all the people 353 00:23:37.039 --> 00:23:41.640 into the Championship game, press box. That was us complaining all year about 354 00:23:41.680 --> 00:23:45.240 it. That was what god sorry, and look at what the USFL podcast 355 00:23:45.920 --> 00:23:51.920 did did in the past, what like in for whatever they call it, 356 00:23:52.039 --> 00:23:53.799 I don't, I don't, I don't know, but regardless, it's like 357 00:23:53.880 --> 00:23:57.519 that's you know, granted, we have things going on and I don't know 358 00:23:57.680 --> 00:24:02.240 what Stefan and zach I could do. And that's you know, for their 359 00:24:02.319 --> 00:24:06.000 full time gig. But I mean that's you know, regardless of how we 360 00:24:06.119 --> 00:24:08.119 feel or they feel about us, Like it's huge, champion of the league, 361 00:24:08.160 --> 00:24:11.160 it's great, it's great for the league. They did a great job 362 00:24:11.720 --> 00:24:15.119 in the presentation. And I would love to see that you know number that 363 00:24:15.279 --> 00:24:19.720 they got be ten times more because it's regardless of how much money they put 364 00:24:19.799 --> 00:24:23.839 into it, they still put the effort. But it's like like you have 365 00:24:25.000 --> 00:24:29.640 people like that in us, like like not to put myself out there, 366 00:24:29.680 --> 00:24:33.319 but you know, I'm trying to get up to Michigan and do all my 367 00:24:33.480 --> 00:24:37.440 in person interviews because you know that is easier, that's easier for me to 368 00:24:37.599 --> 00:24:41.599 relay the stories and whatnot. And it's like I'm willing to spend my own 369 00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:47.000 time and money to give you guys a platform, you know, and I'm 370 00:24:47.039 --> 00:24:49.079 not the largest platform out there, But all it takes is one guy seeing 371 00:24:49.119 --> 00:24:53.640 it who's got bigger platforms, like like the dude Brandon Perna, that's good 372 00:24:53.720 --> 00:24:56.359 sports. He sees it and he's like, you know what, I'm not 373 00:24:56.440 --> 00:25:00.799 doing anything this weekend. I I like Benda Nuci. Let me go talk 374 00:25:00.880 --> 00:25:04.960 to him. He's on the Lebroncos talk XFL or like Cayden Davis is on 375 00:25:06.039 --> 00:25:10.720 the Panthers. Now we'll get to the games here and my last time and 376 00:25:10.759 --> 00:25:14.279 we'll get to the games and people ask, you know, even XFL and 377 00:25:14.519 --> 00:25:17.119 there I've been treated tremendously well, but you know, people ask like, 378 00:25:17.200 --> 00:25:18.599 oh this, you know, so I used to be in the big CFL 379 00:25:18.680 --> 00:25:22.319 hater. It depends back and forth. Yeah. The reason why I like 380 00:25:22.440 --> 00:25:26.400 the CFL is, you know, and I just bought my tickets yesterday, 381 00:25:26.440 --> 00:25:29.359 you know, to go up to do the Great Cup. They roll out 382 00:25:29.359 --> 00:25:33.119 the red carpet. The CFL is happy with any coverage of any kind, 383 00:25:33.319 --> 00:25:36.559 you know, as long as it's not like offensive or whatever. But you 384 00:25:36.680 --> 00:25:40.079 know, I'm beginning to plan the slay the preseason and we're going into the 385 00:25:40.119 --> 00:25:45.200 CFL kickoff and I can literally email a hundred different people, email the teams, 386 00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:48.200 email the team raps, email reporters. They're like, they're happy to 387 00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:51.759 come on, They're happy to talk. The league is happy to have Like, 388 00:25:52.839 --> 00:25:56.640 why wouldn't I want to be, you know, work with them and 389 00:25:56.039 --> 00:25:59.839 be able to kind of help share that because they appreciate it, right and 390 00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:02.920 in the XFL is that way. And I think that they were dealing with 391 00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:06.279 this, you know, the upstart struggles, and I'm hoping and exciting that 392 00:26:06.359 --> 00:26:08.839 that will continue throughout this year, you know now that they've kind of got 393 00:26:08.880 --> 00:26:12.359 their feet under it. But why wouldn't I talk about these leagues more than 394 00:26:12.440 --> 00:26:17.480 embrace and champion the stuff that we do. And it's a copen seedec relationship 395 00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:21.480 versus you know Fox that you know, some weeks it seems like they wanted 396 00:26:21.519 --> 00:26:23.440 to play ball, and some weeks say, okay, let's we can vamp 397 00:26:23.480 --> 00:26:26.440 at the end if we want to go anymore about that. I was talking 398 00:26:26.680 --> 00:26:30.400 at Mahler's show boats when you logged on here at Mauler's horrendous game, you 399 00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:33.400 know, shut out, We had the big kickoff return kind of all that 400 00:26:33.920 --> 00:26:37.880 that was just kind of the comedy of errors leading into the first half. 401 00:26:37.960 --> 00:26:40.000 That was kind of when I got involved in the game. For the most 402 00:26:40.039 --> 00:26:44.160 part. Yeah, I mean we saw some major regression from Troy Williams. 403 00:26:44.440 --> 00:26:47.880 Um. You know, he did a good job obviously staying mobile, which 404 00:26:47.960 --> 00:26:52.039 is what he does. But he did have a lot of cheap a lot 405 00:26:52.079 --> 00:26:56.960 of cheap completions. But he also hit Bailey Gaither on the sideline for a 406 00:26:56.079 --> 00:27:00.039 decent game. Him and Isaiah Henny. I think Henny one out three or 407 00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:06.319 some one oh four for receiving yards. Um really like that. I mean 408 00:27:06.400 --> 00:27:08.960 it just it just seems like the show boats are getting hot at the same 409 00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:14.000 time, at the right time. Um. Big thing for my personal opinion 410 00:27:14.200 --> 00:27:17.640 with the Maulers is that they don't have a true RB one. I think 411 00:27:17.720 --> 00:27:22.200 Groschek only had one carry. Um, one carry for a couple of yards. 412 00:27:22.559 --> 00:27:25.720 He's not a burner, you know, he's the most impressive three yards 413 00:27:25.759 --> 00:27:29.039 a carry guy. Because it seems like he's always getting hit in the backfield 414 00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:33.400 and then pushing voward for about three yards. Um. He just didn't have 415 00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:40.240 it, you know. And that's I mean that that that kick at the 416 00:27:40.440 --> 00:27:44.279 end. You know, I don't fault coach Horden for going for that, 417 00:27:44.519 --> 00:27:48.400 I think that you know, you got a good kicker. He's an NFL 418 00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:51.240 caliber kicker, and they went for it and it didn't work out, And 419 00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:56.200 you know those kick return field goals are always scary. Um. First off, 420 00:27:56.160 --> 00:27:59.799 I wouldn't say it was the greatest player I've ever seen, but it 421 00:27:59.839 --> 00:28:03.440 was definitely the best field goal return for a touchdown I've ever seen because it 422 00:28:03.559 --> 00:28:07.160 wasn't the return because at that point you're just bobbing and weaving through obese people. 423 00:28:07.880 --> 00:28:12.720 You're it was that original catch that he tiptoed. That was what was 424 00:28:12.799 --> 00:28:15.759 so impressive to me about it. Well, I was I was told it 425 00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:18.680 was the best kick got returning in history. That was I saw. The 426 00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:22.559 USFL told me that the history was made. It was the best one ever. 427 00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:26.079 Yeah, I mean, I mean, I mean you only got like 428 00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:30.200 thirteen of them to go off of, so I mean it's in the top 429 00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:34.759 fifteen. You know, that's pretty cool. But I mean I'm a big 430 00:28:34.839 --> 00:28:41.839 showboats showboats guy, um Juwan Washington, you know, a fringe, fringe 431 00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:44.960 guy. In my opinion, Alex Collins was there. He's obviously hurt, 432 00:28:45.400 --> 00:28:48.160 but something that people don't talk about enough is Cole Kelly. And I don't 433 00:28:48.200 --> 00:28:51.680 know if I talked about it on your show. I know I talked about 434 00:28:51.720 --> 00:28:56.319 it in my QB rankings videos and articles. Is when Cole Kelly gets hit, 435 00:28:56.839 --> 00:29:00.400 he's sixty seven, probably two hundred and thirty five or two hundred and 436 00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:06.720 forty pounds. Man is an adult, So when he's getting hit, it's 437 00:29:06.759 --> 00:29:10.599 not the initial Okay, I just sacked a six foot quarterback. I sacked 438 00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:15.680 two. I'm sacking an offensive lineman slash tight end who isn't going to go 439 00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:19.920 down so easily unless I have a good like you know, running start, 440 00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:26.119 and even then it's pretty impressive to bring this man down. So he's able 441 00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:30.440 to throw the football away, thrown incompletion, dump it off to the running 442 00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:33.440 back. And now you're going from a second and seventeen to a you know, 443 00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:37.559 second and ten or second and eight or something like that. And that 444 00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:41.920 kind of deflates the stat line a little bit because now it's an incompletion now 445 00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:45.720 to sacks. So instead of you know, fourteen to twenty four, he's 446 00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:49.640 fourteen of twenty, but he got sacked four times. I mean that adds 447 00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:52.880 up, you know, because now you're not playing. Now, you're not 448 00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:55.799 changing your playbook. Now you're second and eight and you can run the ball. 449 00:29:55.839 --> 00:29:57.480 Okay, you got four yards or thirty four, let's run a mesh 450 00:29:57.559 --> 00:30:02.480 route. Let's run it again. And that big factor in his game, 451 00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:06.039 I don't think gets talked about enough. No, that's fair hair. We 452 00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:08.359 see a lot of comments that need bigger rosters, a lot of injuries. 453 00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:11.599 Right, we saw XFL expand us all working on that. Right with the 454 00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:15.200 CBA, they're going to add I think another two spots that. Yeah, 455 00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:18.640 but again it's it's it's it's cost cutting. You know XFL. They're kind 456 00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:22.680 of bumping up the offseason. We'll see how that works out with that. 457 00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:32.680 But legitimate like can um gripe with both leagues is like you got forty you 458 00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:36.359 know, forty something people at forty people active? Right now? I got 459 00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:41.039 my second? Do I activate that tight end? Okay? Which tight end 460 00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:44.160 am I activating? Can he play fullback? Can he play special teams? 461 00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:48.759 Like now he's tired And we saw this with the BattleHawks, right uh? 462 00:30:49.319 --> 00:30:52.960 And I talked to coach back about it. I don't want to talk XFL 463 00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:56.240 too much, but I was like, coach, when you know one of 464 00:30:56.279 --> 00:30:59.359 your players gets hurt, you know, I think Stephen Mitchell or Gary Jennings 465 00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:03.640 got hurt. I was like, how does that affect everything on special teams 466 00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:06.960 because they're these are your wide receiver fives. And he's like, you know, 467 00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:11.920 it's a lot because now I'm I can't run a fake anymore. You 468 00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:15.359 know, I can't I can't do certain mix up on our punt coverages and 469 00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:18.839 whatnot, you know, certain things on kick return, you know, and 470 00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:21.880 now you're you're shifting guys around, and you're like, okay, well that's 471 00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:23.519 you know, our gunner. Who could I use on our gunners? Okay, 472 00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:26.319 well two of my dbs are hurt. Now I got to put running 473 00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:30.920 back out there. And he's taking three reps this whole offseason. You know. 474 00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:34.599 So those special teams, man, and that's how these guys getting into 475 00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:41.119 the league is their versatility. But that it kind of you're having these guys 476 00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:45.200 out there sucking winds a little bit more. Well, but you know, 477 00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:48.880 it's it's they do that to save money. Because you think about it, 478 00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:51.000 You're like, what is the difference? Look, you know, it's it's 479 00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:52.920 two more spots, you know, four or five grand a week times, 480 00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:56.240 eight teams times. I mean it adds up really quick, and just adding 481 00:31:56.319 --> 00:32:00.000 on to the five roster spots, it's like, you know, million dollars 482 00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:02.039 or whatever you do the math rolled out, So I get why they do 483 00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:07.000 it. I don't get why, especially you know XFL. We talked with 484 00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:10.759 the Team nine. I when Iakole Koblack on last week the Team nine and 485 00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:15.680 Birmingham too, Like when you're in the hub doing that Team nine, having 486 00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:19.319 guys maybe you're only paying them, you know, they are non active or 487 00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:22.119 fifteen hundred a week, and I know that's hard, but you'll get them 488 00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:24.559 in there, get them repping every week and then you're in the hubs anyway, 489 00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:28.000 Like how hard is it just to roll them up? Especially last year. 490 00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:29.920 I never got why they didn't do that at Burma. I'm like, 491 00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:34.240 every person is living here. Just have a team play, you know, 492 00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:37.759 and then you have other people to run routes against in practice just to kind 493 00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:38.960 of get them in. But you have that team. They come in, 494 00:32:39.079 --> 00:32:43.680 they're like the expendables and you play with them or you don't and at least 495 00:32:43.720 --> 00:32:45.960 have it. I just think that there's more creativity that could be done both 496 00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:51.079 XFL and USFL to kind of do that. And last year read a couple 497 00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:53.480 of players were told that there was going to be a team nine, and 498 00:32:53.680 --> 00:32:55.720 like, you know, I wrote a story on it. I had a 499 00:32:55.759 --> 00:33:00.720 couple of people players reach out to me, and it just never happened. 500 00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:05.079 And you know, I mean, I mean, you're looking at longevity if 501 00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:08.519 here it's it's the bouncing act, right, Like both you and I run 502 00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:13.119 businesses, so like, okay, you're cutting the cost here, does it 503 00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:16.799 give you an extra year and change to play in the league versus how much 504 00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:21.119 money you're losing? But you can't get Like it's hard to get that projection 505 00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:24.480 of how much money you're losing if your product isn't to a standard. And 506 00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:29.160 that's something you know, I don't have their Excel sheets, so I don't 507 00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:34.680 know that's that's something I think needs to be factored into this. So I 508 00:33:34.759 --> 00:33:37.960 mean, if the USFL is around for fifteen twenty years, we'll look back 509 00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:38.880 on this and be like, yeah, I guess it was a good idea, 510 00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:44.519 you know, to have Sage Sarat playing on all facets of special teams. 511 00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:47.440 But again, it's it's something with the coaches, you know, complaining 512 00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:51.519 and critiquey whatever. As people do that, then that is what leads to 513 00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:53.000 so that when they do add the team nine or whatever, it's like, 514 00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:54.759 oh, there you go. It's like, oh no, there you go, 515 00:33:54.880 --> 00:33:58.880 like we we but yeah, But it was the same thing with the 516 00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:01.839 XFL. They were going to have the alumni academy experience kind of all season 517 00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:05.920 they're rotating through and it just never happened as well. I think, you 518 00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:08.880 know, there was other circumstances with that, but um, going to this 519 00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:13.199 game here, this was the only game I missed. I back, wedding 520 00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:15.480 season has started. I will say very glad, Patt. The offseason for 521 00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:19.800 the wedding videographers in Seattle is very long. You know, I worked kind 522 00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:22.599 of constant all year and then it's like I kind of have like a midlife 523 00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:25.800 crisis every off season, like okay, it's just what I what do I 524 00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:29.599 do with my life? Here? Very glad to get back to this. 525 00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:34.360 But I missed the Panthers losing it home again. What is going on with 526 00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:37.880 the Michigan Panthers. They hate to win in Michigan, man, I think 527 00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:42.719 it comes down to the quarterback. I mean, you look at that roster 528 00:34:42.880 --> 00:34:45.760 and there's there's talent on the roster like Trey Quinn. I don't know if 529 00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:50.280 he's statistically top five, but top five guy. There was a lot of 530 00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:57.119 shuffle them around. UM. I saw a lot of issues in past protection, 531 00:34:57.280 --> 00:35:00.760 not from the offensive line, but from the back spot in which they're 532 00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:06.119 looking. They're not looking at that immediate threat, and it looked to me 533 00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:10.159 that they were having a lot of issues playing, like like picking up the 534 00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:16.000 additional blitzers and WHATNOTUM. I would like to see a little more of Stevie 535 00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:22.159 Scott versus Reggie Corbyn. Um getting the ball to Reggie Corbyn in the passing 536 00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:25.360 game. I think it's the most advantageous thing because he's more in space and 537 00:35:25.559 --> 00:35:30.760 Stevie Sky it just seemed like every time was bouncing up and up and down, 538 00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:36.880 up and down, like breaking a lot of tackles. You saw a 539 00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:42.400 gentleman his name is Quinton pulling on the Birmingham Stallions and seemed like he was 540 00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:45.519 in the backfield on every play, coming from his linebacker position, and I 541 00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:49.800 think that says a lot about either A. He didn't make a lot of 542 00:35:49.880 --> 00:35:52.519 tackles in the backfield. He was just very disruptive. So that's why he's 543 00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:58.239 in the usfl couldn't couldn't finish, but even then just disrupting it and then 544 00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:01.079 you know, I don't know, and excuse me, guys, I need 545 00:36:01.159 --> 00:36:05.519 to look at like the slow down version of the film. But is that 546 00:36:05.719 --> 00:36:08.840 just a miscommunication? Is he just reading it really well? Are the Guards 547 00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:13.440 not going to that second level? It just seems like they were a little 548 00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:19.159 overwhelmed by Birmingham, which they were the last year champions of what do you 549 00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:22.199 expect to it? But I will say, and you know, I don't 550 00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:25.840 want to get into the you know, the attendance and kind of all of 551 00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:31.360 these things, but this is a really real thing where I've talked to both 552 00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:35.320 kind of on the show and off, you know, the Tony Scotts and 553 00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:38.039 the Bill Chaise and the people that are going to And I'd be curious to 554 00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:40.960 get Paul Woods's thoughts as well. I know he was at the Breakers game. 555 00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:45.679 But you know, you do this thing in Michigan. You roll in 556 00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:49.039 the Panthers, you go to Ford Field, you have you know, now 557 00:36:49.079 --> 00:36:51.760 the Lions are on the upswing, you have the history of the Michigan Panthers. 558 00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:57.039 You know, I think you're you're trying to impress these you know, 559 00:36:57.159 --> 00:37:00.000 real I want to say, like real football writers, real NFL riders coming 560 00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:04.280 in and you know, I think Bill, Like I Todd to Bill and 561 00:37:04.360 --> 00:37:06.719 he's like, yeah, it's cute, Like it's kind of cool. I 562 00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:10.159 think whatever. But I don't think that you're you know, pressing people maybe 563 00:37:10.199 --> 00:37:13.400 the way that they thought that they would, right like, Oh, we're 564 00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:15.199 gonna get fifteen thousand people in here, and the riders are going to come 565 00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:19.639 in and go wow, Like I get. I think that's where some of 566 00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:22.679 this matters. And not that the attendances live all be all, and not 567 00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:24.800 that the Panthers winning all the time as the b all and all. But 568 00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:30.079 you have this losing team in this vacuum you're bringing in all these riders that 569 00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:31.400 are used to covering the variety. Does that make sense? Like, and 570 00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:36.239 I think that it makes it look worse at least in their opinion of what 571 00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:37.719 maybe. Yeah, I mean, and I think the football is fine. 572 00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:39.719 I mean, it is what it is, it's USFL whatever, But I 573 00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:44.000 think it makes it look the'remonstrably worse to them that they're coming in to cover 574 00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:46.079 this with a fresh eye. Yeah, I don't disagree with you. Um, 575 00:37:46.400 --> 00:37:50.199 you know, when we when we were in the press box in Saint 576 00:37:50.280 --> 00:37:52.599 Louis, which is the gold standard I think at this point of all football. 577 00:37:53.639 --> 00:37:57.719 Um, you know, some weeks, depending on what the Cardinals were 578 00:37:57.800 --> 00:38:01.599 doing, it wasn't there. But you consistently had fifteen members of the media 579 00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:07.239 in the press box, you know. And I don't know what Detroit's press 580 00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:08.960 box looks like. I haven't been up there yet. But at the same 581 00:38:09.039 --> 00:38:19.320 time, it's like I thought the I thought that the um, the success 582 00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:22.000 of the Lions would translate in there. And from what I've been talking to 583 00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:25.920 people who have been at the games, Um, you know, that's sixty 584 00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:30.679 five hundred number the USFL gave out was was inaccurate. I don't know what 585 00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:36.039 they're doing if they're giving away tickets and maybe maybe it was sixteen five. 586 00:38:36.119 --> 00:38:37.920 There was a typo. But like I you know, that first week was 587 00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:42.920 a decent a decent showing. The second week wasn't bad either. I mean, 588 00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:45.760 this league let let a little bit to be desired in my opinion, 589 00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:51.519 you know, but when you're when you lose four games at home, like 590 00:38:51.639 --> 00:38:55.039 people aren't gonna want to show and that and that's not that's that that has 591 00:38:55.079 --> 00:38:58.440 nothing to do with the league. That just has to do with your team. 592 00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:01.000 You know, people don't people at times don't go to Mariners games, 593 00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:05.159 A's games if the teams aren't doing well. You know, I was, 594 00:39:05.400 --> 00:39:08.840 I'm a Mets fan like those those those late tooth out like after that, 595 00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:13.320 oh seventh season, you can get tickets for ten dollars and be down by 596 00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:17.159 third base like that's that's not that's not a USFL problem. It's okay. 597 00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:21.000 You like, you have a good market. I think Detroit's a good market. 598 00:39:21.639 --> 00:39:24.599 Do something with it well. Also, I mean even even XFL I 599 00:39:24.679 --> 00:39:28.000 had a problem with that when they came to like you know, the Brahmas 600 00:39:28.039 --> 00:39:30.119 and people go away as well because they started twenty four thousand they didn't mark 601 00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:34.639 it well and then the team wasn't very good. And it's really hard, 602 00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:38.599 like it's such an easy thing when you're you know, not in that market, 603 00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:42.000 right. And I got the same thing with the Seattle fans for the 604 00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:45.159 c Dragons and there, why is the Seattle show that it's like you're not 605 00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:50.159 here like there there's different circumstances for every city, but you can't just say, 606 00:39:50.199 --> 00:39:52.199 well, The fans need to show up. The fans need to be 607 00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:53.400 there. We have a comment here about Bird with him I'll pull up, 608 00:39:53.440 --> 00:39:58.480 but I'm like Seattle, you know, you're competing terrible leather, the crack 609 00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:00.800 and all this uff. Brahmas. The team is not very good. They're 610 00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:05.000 not marketing right Michigan here either. There's all these but it's so easy to 611 00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:07.440 sit there. Oh you should go. They needed da da da da, 612 00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:10.800 Mike says. Most worried is Birmingham really thought they would not only stay steady 613 00:40:10.840 --> 00:40:15.760 but grow this year, considering there in the SNY champions I know, I 614 00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:19.000 mean, but again, Birmingham, there's not that many people in Birmingham. 615 00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:21.880 I mean, there's so many people that are gonna want to go watch games. 616 00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:24.039 They're gonna go watch the Stallion's gonna go watch spring football. Yeah, 617 00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:28.760 see straight straight. I think the attendance in Birmingham has to do a time 618 00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:30.760 of the games, time of year, school activities. Yeah, I mean 619 00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:34.960 Birmingham. To me, that's one of the largest stories that we don't necessarily 620 00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:37.320 talk about because we kind of did the whole last year of it. But 621 00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:40.880 like that's still very much in this show and we don't I don't like, 622 00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:45.400 we don't have like I can't pull up the numbers to tell you what's yea 623 00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:49.079 or nay. And that's disappointing because if I want to say, like, 624 00:40:49.519 --> 00:40:52.360 oh, Birmingham looks good, I have to go on YouTube and like watch 625 00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:54.719 that. I don't want to come off as lazy. But at the same 626 00:40:54.800 --> 00:40:59.920 time, it's like I can look at the San Antonio numbers and be like, 627 00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:04.320 okay, twenty four twelve twelve, twelve twelve, there's an issue here. 628 00:41:04.840 --> 00:41:07.880 I can't do that with like, you know, any I can't do 629 00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:10.880 that with the USFL And that's what annoys me a little bit. And it's 630 00:41:10.960 --> 00:41:15.280 like, you know, I think there's gonna be a lot of like people 631 00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:17.079 that are gonna be like, oh, these attendance numbers are terrible, like 632 00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:20.840 this league trash, and like you can do that all you want. That's 633 00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:22.840 fine, like to an extent, you know, some people take it to 634 00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:28.360 another level. But I'm not doing that to be a jerk, Like I'm 635 00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:31.320 doing it because I want to know, like am I going to have like 636 00:41:31.599 --> 00:41:35.159 are these people going to have jobs next year? Are these people going to 637 00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:37.280 do this? Are we gonna be able to have a certain portion of our 638 00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:40.480 job next year, you know, and it's like, come on, guy, 639 00:41:40.679 --> 00:41:45.800 like like play ball a little bit. And that's the thing is like 640 00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:51.000 my aunt who doesn't care about football at all, and it was mother's day. 641 00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:52.639 I'm watching the game and she's like, oh, is this college And 642 00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:54.840 I'm like, no, this is a pro league, Like let her know 643 00:41:54.920 --> 00:41:59.920 about it. She goes, I earned anyone. Why isn't anyone there? 644 00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:02.119 And I'm like, man, I'm gonna try to have this conversation on mother, 645 00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:07.920 Like but yeah, it's like it's it's it's it's the It's the ultimate 646 00:42:08.039 --> 00:42:13.760 bugaboo for the USFL. And I hate it because there's so much more to 647 00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:16.679 their income and what they bring in and advertising, like they got the golden 648 00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:20.840 ticket with the with Fox. But at the same time, like to the 649 00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:23.599 casual viewer, they're not going to spend twenty minutes on their phone to look 650 00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:28.760 about like it is the USFL financially successful, you know, Like they don't 651 00:42:28.760 --> 00:42:30.960 care. They just want to watch a game. They want, you know, 652 00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:32.599 they want to see good football and they want to see you know, 653 00:42:32.840 --> 00:42:37.840 fans in the stands losing their mind. I will I will share. I 654 00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:39.800 have a rant here at the end of the show. We'll get to it. 655 00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:43.239 Jacob says, Yeah, there's not a lot of marketing Drivesy bird with 656 00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:46.199 him often he's four billboards. I just Chris always gives me laugh every time 657 00:42:46.239 --> 00:42:51.760 I read Chris that I get the fearals and Goosey is watching Alex McGoo. 658 00:42:51.840 --> 00:42:54.719 I think that means like he gets the warm Tinglis. Yeah, how's McGoo 659 00:42:54.800 --> 00:42:58.199 doing? Because I want to get to the stars here, but how it 660 00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:00.599 is? You know, I've been told mcgo is one of the standouts this 661 00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:04.719 year in the USFL. What do you make him a go? He's the 662 00:43:04.840 --> 00:43:10.599 MVP, the MVP and like even on like last week, he was I 663 00:43:10.719 --> 00:43:14.880 felt he was off last week. I think there are two interceptions and he's 664 00:43:14.880 --> 00:43:17.320 still or they still gutted a way to win, you know, And that's 665 00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:22.159 what good teams do. They figure out the way to win. And you 666 00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:24.280 know, to see how mobile he is and the sea, you know, 667 00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:29.159 his arm, his like accuracy looks a little bit better. So I don't 668 00:43:29.159 --> 00:43:31.960 know if he's changed some things up and went on as mechanics because he can't 669 00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:36.119 really tell because he's making so many plays with his legs and you know, 670 00:43:36.840 --> 00:43:40.199 doing a little improv but I mean just to wash him play and as someone 671 00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:44.119 like I've tracked McGoo for a little bit. He was with the Seahawks and 672 00:43:44.840 --> 00:43:47.480 for a minute and then bounced around and just to see his success in this 673 00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:52.400 league is' you know why I covered this league and why I love watching this 674 00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:54.920 league because you know, it's a guy who's been bounced around for a while, 675 00:43:55.159 --> 00:44:00.360 you know, didn't really have the most opportunities coming in as a seventh 676 00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:04.400 round pick, gets hurt last year, and now he's just battling it out 677 00:44:04.440 --> 00:44:07.480 like he's fun twelve touchdowns this year, ran for three on the ground Taamo 678 00:44:07.599 --> 00:44:13.920 through fourteen in ten games. Magoo. Magoo's gonna surpass that air quote modern 679 00:44:14.039 --> 00:44:17.079 record in the ten game season right now. And it's just it's great to 680 00:44:17.159 --> 00:44:21.800 see. And he's you know, he's he's he's making a little bit of 681 00:44:21.840 --> 00:44:24.360 money for himself. You know. Mike Mitchell talked about the availability of roster 682 00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:29.360 spots and whatnot, and maybe with all this gambling nonsense that came out today, 683 00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:35.360 we might see some uh, we might see some more roster spots open. 684 00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:38.480 But in the end, like Magoo is putting himself in a prime position 685 00:44:38.639 --> 00:44:43.480 for when a quarterback gets hurt, your second and your third string quarterback gets 686 00:44:43.559 --> 00:44:46.320 hurt and you call AJ mccaren and AJ is like, now, I'm not 687 00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:49.519 going to do that because I want to play. I'm not gonna sit on 688 00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:52.360 the bench. On the bench, a guy like Alex Magoo is gonna come 689 00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:55.480 in and you know, you know, maybe stick around for an extra year 690 00:44:55.559 --> 00:44:59.920 or two. No, And we were talking about that, Mike Mitch. 691 00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:01.519 If you guys haven't listened to our big you know, we kind of did 692 00:45:01.559 --> 00:45:07.519 a three and a half hour like a kind of symposium here XFL retrospective and 693 00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:10.679 maybe we'll figure out how to do it with the USFL as well here when 694 00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:14.480 it routs. But you know, kind of what worked with didn't. I'll 695 00:45:14.480 --> 00:45:17.039 be curious to see the number of players. Obviously, USFL last year had 696 00:45:17.039 --> 00:45:20.920 a tremendous number of players signed to the practice squads. You know, we 697 00:45:21.119 --> 00:45:23.400 couple made it come anthy turpin, others got hurt. But then you know 698 00:45:23.480 --> 00:45:27.360 this year, now you have this backlog in the XFL, there's only so 699 00:45:27.400 --> 00:45:30.119 many spots for players to get, and then there's going to be even less 700 00:45:30.159 --> 00:45:32.880 for the USFL. So I know all that gambling and everything coming out and 701 00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:37.000 players getting suspended for that. You know, obviously you don't want anyone to 702 00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:38.719 lose their job, but there's only so many spots that they're going to be 703 00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:43.400 And I'm curious to see now with the XFL and the USFL, like we 704 00:45:43.480 --> 00:45:45.159 have this log jam of you know, we're trying to get through the pandemic 705 00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:49.880 canal. I'm like, how many players can get on here this one. 706 00:45:49.960 --> 00:45:52.320 Let's get the games. We'll vamp a little before we get out of here. 707 00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:55.679 Stars. You know again, when without scoring an offensive touchdown, I 708 00:45:55.800 --> 00:46:00.559 felt bad. Paul Woods came down from Toronto, so I saw a cavalcade 709 00:46:00.599 --> 00:46:05.440 of CFL fans. They're watching McCleod that felt bad that they got the performance 710 00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:07.920 they did. Is McCloud cooling off? What do we make of this game? 711 00:46:07.960 --> 00:46:12.119 Because I know you were getting to the base with people about what was 712 00:46:12.199 --> 00:46:16.039 it that the brilliance the brilliance of Bart Andrews in the Stars and I and 713 00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:20.679 I and I get using the flashy terms and I don't and I don't knock 714 00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:23.199 um, you know, James for saying that, you know, like I 715 00:46:23.679 --> 00:46:29.920 get it. It's a good it's a good comment. Um. But at 716 00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:32.760 the same time, it's like, you know, Mart, Mart's been on 717 00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:36.719 the offensive side of the ball for a while, you know, so it's 718 00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:39.360 like he's coached offense, he's coach quarterbacks. That's kind of his jam. 719 00:46:40.119 --> 00:46:45.400 Um. Before he came to the Stars, he was um in youth sports 720 00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:49.920 with I think it was the Ottawa Bigs or something like that. And um, 721 00:46:50.920 --> 00:46:52.480 you know, you just you saw what Case did last year. You 722 00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:58.000 saw what even Ryan did last year in his three games. There was success 723 00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:02.079 with the offensive side of the ball. And I'm not and I've been very 724 00:47:02.199 --> 00:47:07.199 vocal about this, is they did not reload on that offensive line like they 725 00:47:07.239 --> 00:47:10.000 should have. Like, despite some woes I've seen on the Panthers, the 726 00:47:10.119 --> 00:47:13.920 offensive line is way better than last year. And you know, you can 727 00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:16.840 go from being an F to a D. That's still improvement. Last year, 728 00:47:16.880 --> 00:47:20.920 I felt like they were in that bat low B and now I feel 729 00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:24.199 like they're in a D as far as graades go. And it's just disappointing 730 00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:29.880 the sea because Case is a good quarterback. Everyone agrees that Case is a 731 00:47:29.960 --> 00:47:34.719 good quarterback, but how many, like, how many penalties could you call? 732 00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:37.079 How many this? How many that he had almost. I know he 733 00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:40.719 had two touchdowns taken away on the ground, and then there was one pass 734 00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:45.599 he threw within you the five yard line that got called back. And it's 735 00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:46.559 like, come on, guys, like get it together. You know, 736 00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:52.079 they lost alexaking Bulu, they lost Gunner Vogel. Their center is still learning 737 00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:57.880 the position. Perez sam Shady said he was a He said he was a 738 00:47:57.960 --> 00:48:00.039 tight end in college at one point a couple of years. So it's like, 739 00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:02.719 yeah, what do you expect. This is the third year he's playing 740 00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:07.079 the position. He's got to make calls. It's just not working out and 741 00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:09.440 he's getting and you know, we saw him he put an elbow brace on. 742 00:48:09.599 --> 00:48:12.440 You know, it could have been this funny bone, I think they 743 00:48:12.519 --> 00:48:15.639 said. But regardless, it's another hit that he's got to take. But 744 00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:19.400 wasn't it wasn't the stars stand or wasn't he down? Feel two different I 745 00:48:19.519 --> 00:48:22.360 called back to touch. It was like two different plays, like almost back 746 00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:23.400 to back. It's like, what is happening here? Like, I just 747 00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:28.159 it feels and you were talking before the rowdiness, and it just feels like 748 00:48:28.199 --> 00:48:30.519 these teams are kind of undisciplined. I know that we obviously had the issues 749 00:48:30.559 --> 00:48:34.039 in the XFL as well with like the Vipers, but it felt like the 750 00:48:34.119 --> 00:48:37.119 Stars were just kind of all over the place. Yeah, and and and 751 00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:42.159 then it goes back to my undisciplined like you know, these these quick triggers 752 00:48:42.239 --> 00:48:46.679 on the unnecessary or the unsportsmanlike conducts, and it's like some of them, 753 00:48:46.760 --> 00:48:50.599 I feel like you're just not warranted, like you know what I mean. 754 00:48:50.760 --> 00:48:53.119 Like I like I said, you you roll over some dude, you know 755 00:48:53.239 --> 00:48:57.519 for eleven yards and then you just drop the football and do that and you 756 00:48:57.639 --> 00:49:00.079 happen to hit them like they're calling flags on that. I'm like, come 757 00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:02.840 on, bro, this is not taunting. And that dude that you know, 758 00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:07.000 granted the other team will take the yardage, but like deep davinside, 759 00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:09.800 you're like, that's you know what I mean. Like it just seems like 760 00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:15.320 every five minutes, especially for the Stars, like one step forward, fifteen 761 00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:17.480 yards back. Like it was just kind of like, you know, it's 762 00:49:17.519 --> 00:49:21.559 like you're watching the basketball game the final two minutes. You got to block 763 00:49:21.639 --> 00:49:25.280 out three hours of your life, I will say, And it's probably have 764 00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:30.840 the CFL sometimes some of these end of game and the half it just takes 765 00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:34.079 forever and we're slowing it down. We're slowing it down, and we're reviewing, 766 00:49:34.199 --> 00:49:37.119 we're the time out that we're not using the time out, and then 767 00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:39.320 we're then the announcements are complaining about it. It just it seems like it's 768 00:49:39.400 --> 00:49:42.679 kind of a comedy of error sometimes here and there, the end of the 769 00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:45.719 house in the game. Yeah, and I saw that a couple of times 770 00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:50.199 in the XFL, and it's just like bro like, especially that middle of 771 00:49:50.280 --> 00:49:52.719 the season for the Renegades, you know, a couple of those games. 772 00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:55.599 And then I think when the Renegades played the Brahmas, like it just felt 773 00:49:55.639 --> 00:50:01.039 like forever man um, you know, it's it's man like, come come 774 00:50:01.119 --> 00:50:05.079 on, guys, like, let's get it together. And it kills them, 775 00:50:05.159 --> 00:50:07.320 and it kills the tempo of the game because you saw it at one 776 00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:12.599 point with the Breakers, they were driving downfield and then they had some you 777 00:50:12.679 --> 00:50:15.719 know, penalties that came up and I'm kind of just like, you know, 778 00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:20.599 McLeod is McCloud's moving this excuse me right now, like he's he's doing 779 00:50:20.800 --> 00:50:22.880 what he's paid to do. Let him spin, like what this game keep 780 00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:25.880 going? And then it kills it and it's you know, third and twenty 781 00:50:25.920 --> 00:50:29.639 six and you're like, dude, just first and ten with a twenty yard 782 00:50:29.719 --> 00:50:31.679 game, Like, how are they on the twenty six instead of the forty 783 00:50:31.719 --> 00:50:37.079 five? I want to talk to McLeod here. We'll get to the glass 784 00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:39.880 game. I'm gonna go get my power cable here because my last cars on 785 00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:44.159 the day when they went out to the deck it is McLeod or is he 786 00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:46.760 are we? Is this the Mark Hass curse can spoiler alert? I had 787 00:50:46.880 --> 00:50:52.480 McLeod on before before we went to San Antonio, so that he's lost, 788 00:50:52.599 --> 00:50:55.079 dropped two games in a row here now since talking on the Mark Hass pat 789 00:50:55.119 --> 00:50:59.000 talk to me about mccleoud. I'll be right back. So my thing when 790 00:50:59.079 --> 00:51:02.800 McLeod is I saw I saw some great throws from him one play when he 791 00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:08.320 rolled out, guys, really awesome, really awesome pro and they talked about 792 00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:12.559 him. I'm so glad they talked about in the broadcast. Was him rolling 793 00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:16.159 out, there's nothing around, nothing there and he just threw the ball up 794 00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:20.559 and they got that DPI Like that's a pro quarterback move. Right. You're 795 00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:23.239 kind of seeing guys stepping step. You're gonna want to, you know, 796 00:51:23.400 --> 00:51:27.159 just give your guy a chance either cash football, go the flag. If 797 00:51:27.239 --> 00:51:30.719 not, they punt. That obviously moved them along down the field. And 798 00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:34.360 then then like either a play or two later, he throws a strike d 799 00:51:34.559 --> 00:51:38.880 Anderson and the ball just like the ball goes through through his through his hands. 800 00:51:38.920 --> 00:51:44.440 And I counted Mac for MBT for about three miss throws, you know, 801 00:51:44.639 --> 00:51:47.360 like he you know, he wasn't perfect what quarterback is and whatnot, 802 00:51:47.440 --> 00:51:51.880 but the guy made some throws yesterday that should have been caught. There was 803 00:51:51.880 --> 00:51:52.960 a couple of drops. It was like, come on, man like, 804 00:51:53.079 --> 00:51:58.679 get it together. He's been by far the most consistent quarterback as a passer 805 00:51:58.800 --> 00:52:01.000 throughout throughout the last couple of weeks. Um. You know, I've had 806 00:52:01.039 --> 00:52:05.239 them at one or two in my rankings for a while. I'd bumped them 807 00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:07.840 down the four this week is nature of the beast, you know, it's 808 00:52:08.000 --> 00:52:14.000 this is his first truly bad game. But overall I can contribute some of 809 00:52:14.039 --> 00:52:17.639 that to possibly fatigue man like playing like I said, twenty twenty twenty one 810 00:52:17.719 --> 00:52:22.880 games in twenty twenty two. It adds up. And then when they start 811 00:52:22.960 --> 00:52:25.960 camp in March. You know, he obviously he was hurt, you know, 812 00:52:27.119 --> 00:52:30.840 not like a crazy injury. But still you know, to throw the 813 00:52:30.880 --> 00:52:37.079 football, all that goofy stuff. These these things happen. It's nothing indicative 814 00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:40.679 on this play. You know. I just think he's fatigued as well well, 815 00:52:40.760 --> 00:52:45.800 and you know he it's tough. And that's the thing that people don't 816 00:52:45.840 --> 00:52:49.239 get about these spring leagues is you know, if you're going from the you 817 00:52:49.320 --> 00:52:51.639 know, the NFL or a prize of squad, you're going to the XFL, 818 00:52:51.760 --> 00:52:53.800 you're going to CFL coming in. Yeah, McCloud beat up and he 819 00:52:53.920 --> 00:52:57.800 plays a really physical style. I mean you saw him and yesterday where he 820 00:52:57.880 --> 00:53:00.480 was scrambling, it's kind of like tripped down and then came back up and 821 00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:04.079 took another big hit that you know, the play was already does like God, 822 00:53:04.119 --> 00:53:07.039 it's just like another hit this guy's gonna take. And we saw it 823 00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:12.159 with Turpin like people you know, they talk about him in the USFL to 824 00:53:12.280 --> 00:53:15.079 the NFL, but like he played in Poland for a couple of games he 825 00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:17.960 played in the spring. This is on the twenty one he played in he 826 00:53:19.119 --> 00:53:22.440 played. I think he played with the first go Fighters of the IFL or 827 00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:25.440 and then a Rena league in twenty in the back half of twenty, goes 828 00:53:25.519 --> 00:53:30.239 to the Spring League, goes to poland goes to Fan Control Football. These 829 00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:34.840 are out of borders, so excuse me. Guys goes to the USFL, 830 00:53:35.079 --> 00:53:38.679 then goes to the NFL and like, the dude's been playing for like two 831 00:53:38.800 --> 00:53:42.760 years in a row, man, Like how many how much rehab is he 832 00:53:42.880 --> 00:53:45.960 doing? How much? You know? It's it's and then he plays in 833 00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:49.280 a playoff game as well, So it's like, come on, bro, 834 00:53:49.559 --> 00:53:52.920 like some of these guys need a break, and like, I get it. 835 00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:54.559 It's it's you know, we say that for these athletes, yet we're 836 00:53:54.639 --> 00:53:59.039 grinding on, you know, two or three jobs to make our dreams come 837 00:53:59.079 --> 00:54:01.679 true. So who are we to give give on solicit advice? But man, 838 00:54:01.800 --> 00:54:05.320 it's it's a it's a pride for some of these guys. Pam, 839 00:54:05.400 --> 00:54:08.039 and I think MBT Throws is right up in there. You know, the 840 00:54:08.079 --> 00:54:13.239 season ends in November and he's in training camp in March. Yeah, it's 841 00:54:13.320 --> 00:54:15.480 not it's it's I mean, it really is not sustainable. I mean you 842 00:54:15.559 --> 00:54:19.039 need to figure that out. And I don't know if it's better worse. 843 00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:22.000 I think, you know, for the players, I do think and we've 844 00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:24.679 had comments here on the chat about the timeline. I think the timeline getting 845 00:54:24.719 --> 00:54:28.639 out in April with the XFL having a couple of months to just kind of 846 00:54:28.719 --> 00:54:31.559 reflect versus you saw how many of those guys were getting hurt coming out in 847 00:54:31.679 --> 00:54:35.599 July, and then go into the you know, training camps over the summer. 848 00:54:36.119 --> 00:54:37.519 It's a really hard turn out last game, and then I have a 849 00:54:37.639 --> 00:54:43.840 ramp before we get out of here. This competing against the the the Dallas, 850 00:54:44.119 --> 00:54:45.920 the Dallas Stars here playing against the Vegas gold Knights, losing, and 851 00:54:46.039 --> 00:54:51.480 over time we have the Houston Gamblers over the Generals. This was a slower 852 00:54:51.599 --> 00:54:53.719 game. I know Anthony Miller is covering this for news UB. It wasn't 853 00:54:53.800 --> 00:54:58.519 the most of exciting matchups we had. I think it was Googler and the 854 00:54:58.679 --> 00:55:01.119 Joe Clatt there calling, So what did you make of the Generals and the 855 00:55:01.239 --> 00:55:06.320 Gamblers? So it seemed like they were a little bit more the Gamblers, 856 00:55:06.400 --> 00:55:08.840 they were a little bit more conservative with Bahar coming off injury. I think 857 00:55:09.280 --> 00:55:15.079 Kenji has been one of the better stories of the league, not some you 858 00:55:15.159 --> 00:55:16.360 know, depending on who you are, a little bit of an unknown. 859 00:55:17.320 --> 00:55:22.360 In twenty twenty two, Clain Thorson's backup goes two and one and three starts. 860 00:55:23.199 --> 00:55:28.599 Obviously very successful so far this year. Played a little bit of a 861 00:55:28.920 --> 00:55:31.280 little bit more of checkdown, checkdown Charlie a little bit. He had a 862 00:55:31.400 --> 00:55:36.719 great pass to friend of my show, Quinn Sigg that got called back. 863 00:55:36.960 --> 00:55:38.960 It was like twenty yards, but he saw a little bit of that, 864 00:55:39.159 --> 00:55:43.760 utilizing the full back a little bit more. Anytime you have Mark Thompson, 865 00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:46.880 your life becomes a lot easier. Guy ran in for another touchdown. What 866 00:55:46.960 --> 00:55:51.360 do you have for you? Twenty two carries almost side Yeah, you know, 867 00:55:51.440 --> 00:55:54.000 putting together justin hall. They hit him a lot on these screen routes 868 00:55:54.039 --> 00:55:59.159 and whatnot. He had one ball I think it was the Ratliffe Williams he 869 00:55:59.199 --> 00:56:01.440 wishes he had. But he played, you know, no turnover free game 870 00:56:01.519 --> 00:56:06.199 and you know, for a young quarterback who this was his fifth starter of 871 00:56:06.280 --> 00:56:08.840 the year. So we're on eight starts since coming out of college. That's 872 00:56:08.880 --> 00:56:13.280 all you can ask for, you know. Um a little bit of a 873 00:56:13.360 --> 00:56:16.599 pro comp to Jordan Tayambo, he's uh, I don't know. Their ages 874 00:56:16.639 --> 00:56:22.280 are probably about the same age, but that same style of yeah, I 875 00:56:22.320 --> 00:56:24.039 can run it, but don't you know, don't forget. I have a 876 00:56:24.079 --> 00:56:30.679 good armed But what I like about Bahar is that he's hitting the checkdowns more. 877 00:56:30.760 --> 00:56:35.559 And I didn't see that from Tayamu until later in the season, which 878 00:56:35.639 --> 00:56:38.440 is when he started opening up as a passer, utilizing his tight ends. 879 00:56:38.719 --> 00:56:43.719 And then you saw it last year. This season the XFL with alex Ellis, 880 00:56:44.480 --> 00:56:47.639 alex Ellis Ethan Wolf and a couple and Briley Moore all, you know, 881 00:56:47.800 --> 00:56:53.159 having a more sexy stat line. What is the deal with Kyle Aletta 882 00:56:53.239 --> 00:56:58.079 and why is he not playing? It seems to be up to par I 883 00:56:58.199 --> 00:57:01.000 mean, I mean the guys got a weak arm to those outside those at 884 00:57:01.039 --> 00:57:06.159 the wide side of the field. I counted three out routes that he completely 885 00:57:06.239 --> 00:57:08.039 missed. He threw one or two into the you know, at the feet 886 00:57:08.079 --> 00:57:13.119 of the receiver. He's way more athletic than I thought he uh than I 887 00:57:13.199 --> 00:57:15.960 thought he than I thought he was. A lot of people forget he played 888 00:57:16.000 --> 00:57:22.079 in two NFL games last year or excuse me, in twenty seventeen, and 889 00:57:22.159 --> 00:57:25.159 one of them he was lining up a wide receiver when ELI was on, 890 00:57:25.719 --> 00:57:32.079 when he was with Eli and the Giants. I'm I'm not sure really why 891 00:57:34.800 --> 00:57:38.039 there's some speculation on the twitter verse, but I mean it's all speculation. 892 00:57:38.119 --> 00:57:44.239 Obviously DeAndre Johnson was active. You know, Deandre's improved so much as a 893 00:57:44.280 --> 00:57:47.679 passer this year, and obviously his athletic ability is unmatched. So it's really 894 00:57:47.719 --> 00:57:52.599 disappointing to not see him get those reps that and I don't know if DeAndre 895 00:57:52.719 --> 00:57:55.559 go the NFL. I don't think he will, but like, did not 896 00:57:55.679 --> 00:58:00.239 get those reps to keep improving and keep putting together the best opportunity for his 897 00:58:00.400 --> 00:58:05.159 team. And that's what I feel like the general's need is DeAndre Johnson because 898 00:58:05.159 --> 00:58:09.559 then you have that three headed monster in the backfield with him, Victor and 899 00:58:09.960 --> 00:58:14.400 Williams, and you know, it's it's a hard thing to contend with, 900 00:58:14.639 --> 00:58:16.400 and it's just it's just disappointing. I mean, I don't you know, 901 00:58:16.440 --> 00:58:20.960 because I feel like as fans, like in media, we didn't get the 902 00:58:21.760 --> 00:58:23.480 best product that the generals could put out there. And that's the thing. 903 00:58:23.559 --> 00:58:27.960 You always want the best product for your for your fan, for your team, 904 00:58:28.039 --> 00:58:32.480 and you know, for for the for the brand. What's the speculation 905 00:58:32.519 --> 00:58:37.000 on Twitter, like injury wise or politics wise or what's going on. I 906 00:58:37.119 --> 00:58:39.039 saw some things about injury and that. But at the same time, if 907 00:58:39.079 --> 00:58:42.639 you can't go, you can't go, like, you know, bring up 908 00:58:42.679 --> 00:58:45.840 pru Cup, you know, like pru Cup's more. Yeah, Frukey didn't 909 00:58:45.840 --> 00:58:49.360 look give from a nice up. Yeah, I mean he didn't play. 910 00:58:49.559 --> 00:58:52.920 He didn't play last this week. But I mean, like he's more athletics, 911 00:58:52.960 --> 00:58:54.199 so you could still bring in the read option game and you have to 912 00:58:54.360 --> 00:58:58.719 regardless of his arm, you can. You have to respect his h his 913 00:58:58.880 --> 00:59:00.519 rushing ability. You know, like lau Leda had some great runs, but 914 00:59:00.599 --> 00:59:04.239 they're not designed, they're unbroken plays. You know, you have an eighteen 915 00:59:04.360 --> 00:59:07.639 yard run, he broke two tackles and then you know ran. He's not 916 00:59:07.760 --> 00:59:10.239 a slow guy. I think he ran high four sixes, low four sevens, 917 00:59:10.719 --> 00:59:15.400 not slow at all. But I mean, I mean, it just 918 00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:17.000 depends on what you're trying to do with the offense. I thought they thought 919 00:59:17.119 --> 00:59:21.280 law Leda would kind of be that Luis Ferez, but I saw too much 920 00:59:21.320 --> 00:59:24.400 improvement from Johnson to kind of buy into that. I thought Johnson should be 921 00:59:24.440 --> 00:59:29.039 getting at least one ninety five percent of the snaps and you know, you 922 00:59:29.159 --> 00:59:31.360 use proke up because he's a little bigger kind of in that same mold on 923 00:59:31.440 --> 00:59:37.360 the third down, the push plays and whatnot. But it's it's it's disappointing 924 00:59:37.400 --> 00:59:39.519 to not seeing Johnson out there, especially when you know they're they're all in 925 00:59:39.559 --> 00:59:45.599 the playoff race and he gives you the best opportunity to win last thing here. 926 00:59:45.639 --> 00:59:47.079 And then we get to any other thoughts Pat has before we get out 927 00:59:47.119 --> 00:59:52.559 of here. I was watching the game yesterday. I have gotten the emails, 928 00:59:52.639 --> 00:59:54.760 and they've probably ran this ad. I just I usually two now kind 929 00:59:54.760 --> 00:59:58.239 of during the during the ad breaks, but I've gotten the emails. You 930 00:59:58.280 --> 01:00:00.480 know, real football or your real pro those real football, real fans or 931 01:00:00.519 --> 01:00:06.239 whatever, real fans whatever this you know the thing is. But I absolutely 932 01:00:06.280 --> 01:00:08.440 hate this. I astually. I took a screenshot of this the real fans, 933 01:00:08.559 --> 01:00:10.960 and this guy is going to be in the face of the real fan 934 01:00:12.119 --> 01:00:15.559 read anti you know figure, But but I hate this, Pat, I 935 01:00:15.679 --> 01:00:17.320 hate this. I think this is I've seen. Oh, this isn't a 936 01:00:17.360 --> 01:00:22.320 shot the XFL. This is. I think this is absolutely shot the XFL. 937 01:00:22.400 --> 01:00:24.239 But I don't like it because the x you know, say what you 938 01:00:24.320 --> 01:00:29.760 want about either of these leagues. The XFL is out attending the the USFL 939 01:00:29.800 --> 01:00:31.920 by leaps and bounce here. But I hate this and I think that this 940 01:00:32.599 --> 01:00:37.599 helps, like you kind of sew those seeds of polarization, right. We 941 01:00:37.639 --> 01:00:38.599 see it even in the chatter on the show. What do you make of 942 01:00:38.679 --> 01:00:42.719 this? I mean we talked about it, right, like who threw the 943 01:00:42.800 --> 01:00:47.559 first stone? We're at the hatfield to McCoy's uh, USFL absolutely like I 944 01:00:47.960 --> 01:00:52.199 have tracked this all. XFL has never thrown a stone. I don't think 945 01:00:52.239 --> 01:00:54.679 I care, I don't. I disagree. I think it goes back to 946 01:00:54.800 --> 01:01:00.039 Rod Woodson. I think our our comment, our comment from Ron Blindston. 947 01:01:00.920 --> 01:01:05.559 No, I think I think the comment. I think the first thing ever 948 01:01:05.920 --> 01:01:09.920 was the week of the x the USML kickoff, the interviewed Darryl Johnston and 949 01:01:10.039 --> 01:01:14.480 he said, we have a slate that our TV slate is better than anything 950 01:01:14.559 --> 01:01:17.440 the XFL will put on the air in terms of broadcast windows. I believe 951 01:01:17.519 --> 01:01:21.239 that's the first thing. And if you want to credit Rob Winson's comment on 952 01:01:21.320 --> 01:01:23.920 the mark cast following that, I don't think we're not important. I don't 953 01:01:24.599 --> 01:01:28.280 well, I mean, I mean you're important to the Twitter verse, right 954 01:01:28.440 --> 01:01:32.400 like the people who harass us in our d ms and uh, it's not. 955 01:01:32.840 --> 01:01:36.239 Once again, guys, it's not hard. Like I don't want to 956 01:01:36.280 --> 01:01:38.360 get too edgy here, but it's not hard to figure out things, especially 957 01:01:38.599 --> 01:01:42.599 when you have a little bit of a background. So, like I said, 958 01:01:42.679 --> 01:01:45.159 Bama boy got real quiet after we call him out. Um, but 959 01:01:46.159 --> 01:01:49.960 yeah, it's weird right. Um. But on the flip side, though, 960 01:01:50.079 --> 01:01:55.880 like I'm a little disappointed Daryl Johnson because what was he doing in twenty 961 01:01:55.960 --> 01:02:01.559 twenty with the XFL Yeah he was? And who was he with? Uh? 962 01:02:01.679 --> 01:02:06.760 He was with the Dallas right yeah? And who whoo? Who's this 963 01:02:06.840 --> 01:02:09.119 boy? Now you're asking me two of the questions big, big, big 964 01:02:09.199 --> 01:02:17.920 game Bob Anthony Miller's yeah. So that that that kind of shade to me 965 01:02:19.159 --> 01:02:22.320 is like I don't want to do to remember where he came from because I 966 01:02:22.360 --> 01:02:24.840 think he was a part of the AAF as well. Um, you know, 967 01:02:24.920 --> 01:02:30.039 but it's kind of like come on, dog like step you know, 968 01:02:30.119 --> 01:02:31.119 step it up. And now it's like, you know, you got Rod 969 01:02:31.320 --> 01:02:35.000 saying that stuff, which I wouldn't up said, you know, not that 970 01:02:35.360 --> 01:02:38.400 like the most like boiled back. But my thing is is coming from my 971 01:02:38.519 --> 01:02:45.840 background when I deal with clients and they're more polarizing, and they say, 972 01:02:45.960 --> 01:02:49.400 I don't know why I need to hire you and your guys, and I'm 973 01:02:49.440 --> 01:02:52.239 like, well, ma'am, well sir, you alienate fifty percent of this 974 01:02:52.400 --> 01:02:57.400 country. Regardless of what you're saying is true, right, wrong or indifferent. 975 01:02:58.280 --> 01:03:01.760 You just said that fifty percent of this country or this you know market 976 01:03:02.760 --> 01:03:07.800 is dumb and you don't they don't and I don't agree with you, so 977 01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:12.639 you're not with me, you're against me. I think it's the same mentality. 978 01:03:13.280 --> 01:03:16.840 When you do this stuff, you alienate an x amount of percentage, 979 01:03:17.920 --> 01:03:22.440 no matter if it's the XFL or the USFL doing it. You alien out, 980 01:03:22.639 --> 01:03:28.199 alienate a fifty percent of whoever or certain percentage of whoever. And to 981 01:03:28.360 --> 01:03:31.800 me, that's just a bad look. And I will never forget that New 982 01:03:31.920 --> 01:03:37.159 Orleans guy who got barrage on Twitter. He's just like, oh, there's 983 01:03:37.159 --> 01:03:39.639 a New Orleans team, why don't they play in New Orleans? And they're 984 01:03:39.719 --> 01:03:44.599 like, because you don't know this and you don't follow this, and you're 985 01:03:44.800 --> 01:03:46.920 you're not about it. And this dude's like some random guy who's probably an 986 01:03:46.960 --> 01:03:52.360 accountant that's dealing with, you know, during taxis and dealing with you know, 987 01:03:52.519 --> 01:03:53.840 millions of dollars and it's like, yes, sorry, I'm not on 988 01:03:53.960 --> 01:03:59.119 Twitter like perusing about why the Breakers don't play in New Orleans. I have 989 01:03:59.280 --> 01:04:04.360 children. It's bowling. I just I will say because the Rod Woodson quote 990 01:04:04.519 --> 01:04:08.280 was if people are when we when we went down to the air zone the 991 01:04:08.320 --> 01:04:11.960 showcase, it was Matt Lyons, myself, Evan and Branding over with the 992 01:04:12.039 --> 01:04:15.880 Comeback Period show and we went down we interviewed back to us there. Woodson 993 01:04:15.039 --> 01:04:18.800 was there. We talked with the Rust Brandon off camera. I'm trying to 994 01:04:18.800 --> 01:04:21.480 think of who other the coaches we had like five of them. The videos 995 01:04:21.519 --> 01:04:24.480 on there if you go on the YouTube channel, the videos on there. 996 01:04:24.519 --> 01:04:27.159 But yeah, we were asking. I think we asked like what, Rod, 997 01:04:27.719 --> 01:04:30.119 you know, how are you going to attract you know, all these 998 01:04:30.119 --> 01:04:32.159 players are going to the USFL, Malik, are you worried about talent depth? 999 01:04:32.280 --> 01:04:34.920 I think he was like, well, like, we're gonna care more 1000 01:04:34.960 --> 01:04:39.440 about our players than the USFL. And it's one of those things. I 1001 01:04:39.559 --> 01:04:42.199 worked in journalism for years, I worked in TV, and I'm like, 1002 01:04:43.280 --> 01:04:45.920 that is a good sound bite. That is a really good sound like I 1003 01:04:45.960 --> 01:04:48.559 wouldn't I wouldn't up said, you know, the thing is too is like, 1004 01:04:48.840 --> 01:04:53.199 oh, you know food, Like you get some of these XFL guys 1005 01:04:53.239 --> 01:04:57.119 are like foo foo the USFL, and I'm like, bro, you took 1006 01:04:57.159 --> 01:05:00.519 like eighty players from that, and like some of those eighty players were some 1007 01:05:00.599 --> 01:05:05.000 of the best, like players in your league. Dude, like chill out, 1008 01:05:05.119 --> 01:05:08.400 you know. And then it's like on the flip side, you get 1009 01:05:08.440 --> 01:05:10.760 a lot of these USFL guys. Was like, oh, we don't need 1010 01:05:10.920 --> 01:05:15.960 Jordan talm And I was like, I mean, I mean everyone could use 1011 01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:19.559 from Jordan Tamu. Everyone could have the flip side too, of like the 1012 01:05:19.639 --> 01:05:24.320 Kyle Solder hate. And then you know he's back in Birmingham and everyone's like 1013 01:05:24.840 --> 01:05:28.119 he knows where he belongs. And I'm like, bro Kyl's just trying to 1014 01:05:28.159 --> 01:05:30.719 freaking hang out with his girlfriend more Man and now, you know, getting 1015 01:05:31.360 --> 01:05:33.800 an extra thirty grand to do it. You know, he's having a good 1016 01:05:33.840 --> 01:05:39.239 time. He's got almost two million dollars in income from professional football. He's 1017 01:05:39.719 --> 01:05:42.960 he's chilling right now. Dude. I do I do? Where is it 1018 01:05:43.039 --> 01:05:45.239 I do? And then we have a good things here, We'll get out 1019 01:05:45.239 --> 01:05:47.440 of here. I do concur with this rock and roll alien but brought to 1020 01:05:47.519 --> 01:05:50.159 the side official statement. You know, Fox put real money into you, 1021 01:05:50.360 --> 01:05:54.039 I do. I mean, you know, coaches comments off the cuff to 1022 01:05:54.440 --> 01:05:57.400 you know, all Douce have writers than myself. And at the end of 1023 01:05:57.679 --> 01:06:00.920 the last showcase, at the end of horrendous two months, I don't think 1024 01:06:00.920 --> 01:06:04.119 it's kind of whatever that way, you know too, I get I to 1025 01:06:04.280 --> 01:06:06.880 me that the first shot was that Darrell Johnson thing. That is, I 1026 01:06:08.159 --> 01:06:12.320 do believe I've tracked it back that far. I mean, and and that's 1027 01:06:12.320 --> 01:06:15.920 the thing people are always gonna like, for example, like you and I 1028 01:06:15.079 --> 01:06:18.760 I feel like a pretty level headed human beings and we disagree on this right 1029 01:06:19.320 --> 01:06:25.280 like like you know, like people are only gonna know what they want to 1030 01:06:25.360 --> 01:06:30.079 know, what fits in their fits in their thing. Now, like you've 1031 01:06:30.239 --> 01:06:32.159 educated me on this, like the Daryl Johnson thing, because I know he 1032 01:06:32.239 --> 01:06:35.960 said some things, but you know, like now, now does that change 1033 01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:39.559 my point of view on it? Like, Okay, I consider myself a 1034 01:06:39.639 --> 01:06:44.000 pretty analytical and rational human being. I'm going, you know, to take 1035 01:06:44.079 --> 01:06:48.039 that information and make a new opinion possibly right. Someone else does not want 1036 01:06:48.079 --> 01:06:50.119 to do that, you know, They're just looking at this, you know, 1037 01:06:50.320 --> 01:06:57.639 like because it's it's gone back so so far, it's really not in 1038 01:06:58.159 --> 01:07:00.920 in the ope of reality, in the scope of Twitter, that's a lot 1039 01:07:00.960 --> 01:07:03.960 of reach, that's a lot of scrolling you gotta do to get back to 1040 01:07:04.039 --> 01:07:09.119 those sound bites right in those in those tweets. And it's like, man, 1041 01:07:09.440 --> 01:07:13.320 just I don't want to come off you know, these eight hundred people's 1042 01:07:13.440 --> 01:07:18.400 jobs or around and like to me and I don't want to I don't. 1043 01:07:18.519 --> 01:07:21.039 I've said this before. It's like, you gotta got like Vince Young, 1044 01:07:21.280 --> 01:07:26.199 right, for example, And Vince Young is you know, going on a 1045 01:07:26.239 --> 01:07:28.320 little bit of a journey here, but stay with me. You gotta gota 1046 01:07:28.320 --> 01:07:30.519 like Vince Young. Vince Young, it was football or bust for a guy 1047 01:07:30.599 --> 01:07:33.960 like that, right, how many guys you know, Yeah, they might 1048 01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:36.960 have had the luxury of going to some great colleges and whatnot, but did 1049 01:07:38.000 --> 01:07:42.039 they actually go to those great colleges? Did they actually go to communications class? 1050 01:07:42.599 --> 01:07:45.559 For a lot of these players, like this is it? You know, 1051 01:07:45.679 --> 01:07:47.400 so they need to not only build their resume as players, but they 1052 01:07:47.440 --> 01:07:50.400 also got builded as coaches and whatnot. And you know this might be a 1053 01:07:50.480 --> 01:07:55.280 negative sound by the vall football players are dumb jocks. Well you know what, 1054 01:07:55.440 --> 01:08:00.519 man, if if you know if my whole thing was football and whatnot, 1055 01:08:00.679 --> 01:08:04.199 and I didn't like communications class or business class, and this is all 1056 01:08:04.239 --> 01:08:08.760 I want to do, whether it be playing or coaching. I need these 1057 01:08:08.800 --> 01:08:13.199 things to work out. No, I get it here, Chris says, 1058 01:08:13.199 --> 01:08:16.680 overall, it's a big nephew burger. Um, just all this, yes, 1059 01:08:19.199 --> 01:08:25.399 huh agree, I mean it's it's it's a ridiculous argument that really we're 1060 01:08:25.399 --> 01:08:29.920 only catering to about what like eighty four people on Twitter? Yeah. Uh 1061 01:08:30.359 --> 01:08:31.600 this last year, I gotta I got that someone working at the front of 1062 01:08:31.640 --> 01:08:33.760 my house. I gotta go check in with here. I last think Chris 1063 01:08:33.800 --> 01:08:39.119 has freedom. You picked the uslduh the Philadelphia Stars. It is the team 1064 01:08:39.119 --> 01:08:41.800 of the Markast. I've had kids cookers on the podcast, I have the 1065 01:08:41.920 --> 01:08:45.920 jersey, I've had the players last year on and we're going back with Brian 1066 01:08:45.000 --> 01:08:48.760 Scott, Matt Mangel and all that stuff there. Philadelphia Stars are the team 1067 01:08:48.760 --> 01:08:51.319 of the Mark Hast. Pat anything else before we get out of here. 1068 01:08:51.880 --> 01:08:56.079 Uh. Um. You know I'm a shill for myself. Guys. If 1069 01:08:56.079 --> 01:08:59.479 you if you want to send me any more good comments, bad comments more 1070 01:08:59.520 --> 01:09:04.319 Aline Assman hit me up on you know Twitter by Pat Raffino. YouTube is 1071 01:09:04.359 --> 01:09:10.880 analyzed and educate. Um, you know, always always good for a good 1072 01:09:11.319 --> 01:09:14.840 you know conversation. If you're gonna harass me, I'm just gonna, you 1073 01:09:14.920 --> 01:09:18.119 know, background check you. But that's a different I didn't call you from 1074 01:09:18.159 --> 01:09:21.560 one of my Bernard numbers. That would be good. The thing I just 1075 01:09:21.680 --> 01:09:26.359 tweeted out the CFL preseason game this afternoon is gonna be pushed back half an 1076 01:09:26.399 --> 01:09:28.600 hour, but I am saying, like, check this out. I'm really 1077 01:09:28.640 --> 01:09:31.079 excited. Pat, I have a DMS right now going in on that. 1078 01:09:31.199 --> 01:09:34.960 It's gonna make you. You're gonna get the gooses and fields or whatever Chris 1079 01:09:35.159 --> 01:09:39.960 was getting earlier. You get all of that when you see many dms coming. 1080 01:09:40.319 --> 01:09:42.560 Check out the CFL. We're gonna have lots of stuff with that, 1081 01:09:42.800 --> 01:09:46.960 like and subscribe. We've got you know, USFL this weekend figuring out all 1082 01:09:47.000 --> 01:09:49.680 that stuff. But should have some good shows coming up and some good guests. 1083 01:09:49.720 --> 01:09:54.079 So appreciate it. Pat, I appreciate everyone. A little rocky to 1084 01:09:54.159 --> 01:09:57.399 start, but we got through it all and that we'll see you guys next 1085 01:09:57.439 --> 01:09:59.760 time. Take care of everyone, like and subscribe