WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:08.679 It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine 2 00:00:08.759 --> 00:00:26.719 day. Now here's Nick Coffee. All right, let's get it started, 3 00:00:26.800 --> 00:00:29.640 Ladies and gentlemen. The five o'clock hour here on a Friday afternoon. It 4 00:00:29.719 --> 00:00:32.439 is Coffee and Company. That's us. My name is Nick Coffee. The 5 00:00:32.479 --> 00:00:37.039 company man John Alden alongside. We are fueled by Thornton's. So make sure 6 00:00:37.079 --> 00:00:39.719 you keep them in mind next time you have to put fuel in your vehicle. 7 00:00:39.960 --> 00:00:42.759 Maybe you want a snack bite to eat. I mean, they've got 8 00:00:42.840 --> 00:00:46.200 delicious food that I think you can enjoy at any time. But you know, 9 00:00:46.240 --> 00:00:48.039 when you think, okay, man, I need to get out of 10 00:00:48.039 --> 00:00:49.759 here for lunch, but I don't have a lot of time. 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All right, As you could expect, we have 26 00:01:40.280 --> 00:01:44.079 spent the majority of the show today discussing I think the biggest story in the 27 00:01:44.079 --> 00:01:47.760 world right now, certainly the biggest story in sports, and certainly the biggest 28 00:01:47.760 --> 00:01:53.239 story locally, as Scotty Scheffler was detained, put in handcuffs and then later 29 00:01:53.359 --> 00:01:56.519 arrest had taken to jail on his way to Valhalla this morning. I mean, 30 00:01:56.519 --> 00:01:59.519 again, just something that when you say it out loud, you think, 31 00:01:59.519 --> 00:02:00.799 well, there's no way that can be real, and it is. 32 00:02:02.239 --> 00:02:08.319 So this all I guess, you know, I mean, I always struggle 33 00:02:08.360 --> 00:02:12.960 to choose my words here as we talk about something that is rather serious, 34 00:02:12.960 --> 00:02:15.000 which is somebody who's tragically lost their life. But I don't want to act 35 00:02:15.000 --> 00:02:17.919 as if his you know, like somebody's at fault for I mean, that's 36 00:02:19.000 --> 00:02:23.719 just a tragic accident that happened where a volunteer, no gentleman named John Mills 37 00:02:23.039 --> 00:02:27.520 was killed earlier today. That's what led to their being I guess different traffic 38 00:02:27.560 --> 00:02:30.199 flow and pattern, right, It was a fatal accident that led to somebody 39 00:02:30.199 --> 00:02:35.439 losing their life where one of the buses that was transporting people attending the PGA 40 00:02:35.560 --> 00:02:38.199 Championship of Valhalla struck someone in the road, which was John Mills, and 41 00:02:38.439 --> 00:02:42.879 he died. So that led to them shutting down the road, Shelby Hill 42 00:02:42.960 --> 00:02:49.360 Road and clearly having a different procedure to get people into the course, including 43 00:02:49.400 --> 00:02:54.520 golfers. So after that happened, they, I guess, let some golfers 44 00:02:54.599 --> 00:03:00.360 through with their PGA marked vehicles, which I'm not even sure what that looks 45 00:03:00.439 --> 00:03:02.120 like, what that is, but I guess if you're a golfer in you're 46 00:03:02.120 --> 00:03:05.879 heading to get ready for your tea time, you are in a marked vehicle. 47 00:03:05.879 --> 00:03:08.439 That lets I guess law enforcement and anybody working the event know that you 48 00:03:08.479 --> 00:03:12.479 are. You know, you could probably get places most people can't when you're 49 00:03:12.520 --> 00:03:17.479 in one of those vehicles. Right, So now we're hearing that it's you 50 00:03:17.479 --> 00:03:23.159 know, I guess all just a misunderstanding. But I think the report from 51 00:03:23.280 --> 00:03:24.840 John is it is you know, it's is it John J Jefton? Yeah, 52 00:03:24.879 --> 00:03:28.919 Jeff Darlington, the ESPN reporter who doesn't usually cover golf that I'm aware 53 00:03:28.919 --> 00:03:31.680 of, but he was there and saw I guess I think he saw everything. 54 00:03:31.759 --> 00:03:34.919 Right, everybody shares the you know, he shared a video that has 55 00:03:35.120 --> 00:03:38.840 been played maybe a billion times now all over the internet and on television, 56 00:03:38.240 --> 00:03:40.800 and some initially said, well, hey, that's just showing the aftermath. 57 00:03:40.800 --> 00:03:45.360 That's not showing what happened. That's showing him getting arrested. But the way 58 00:03:45.400 --> 00:03:47.319 he describes things, he didn't have his camera rolling, But I think he 59 00:03:47.439 --> 00:03:52.520 saw everything, and this is him giving a detail of what of what happened 60 00:03:52.520 --> 00:03:58.159 this morning between Scotti, Scheffler and lmpd Well Greendy. As you could see 61 00:03:58.199 --> 00:04:00.520 in some of that footage, it was a very can situation this morning. 62 00:04:00.639 --> 00:04:06.199 Already outside of Valhalla Golf Club as police were responding to a separate incident down 63 00:04:06.240 --> 00:04:12.960 the road. It resulted in road closures and ultimately was only a situation where 64 00:04:14.240 --> 00:04:18.560 officials and players could get to the point where they could even approach the Valhalla 65 00:04:18.720 --> 00:04:24.639 entrance. But what happened next was certainly surreal. There was a bus that 66 00:04:24.720 --> 00:04:28.199 did not have a driver in it that was still sitting outside of the main 67 00:04:28.240 --> 00:04:30.720 gate of Valhalla Golf Club. Police were trying to figure out how to get 68 00:04:30.759 --> 00:04:35.160 that bus moved. Scotti Scheffler was in a vehicle too. Behind that bus, 69 00:04:35.879 --> 00:04:43.079 Scheffler attempted to drive his car on a road that was jammed with vehicles 70 00:04:43.120 --> 00:04:48.480 onto the side medium plenty of space on that median where Scheffler could move his 71 00:04:48.560 --> 00:04:55.240 car around toward the entrance. A police officer in a yellow jacket like those 72 00:04:55.319 --> 00:05:00.240 ones you're seeing there, approached Scheffler's car told him to stop. Scheffler continued 73 00:05:00.240 --> 00:05:05.480 to drive his vehicle, at which point the officer attached himself to Scheffler's car. 74 00:05:06.680 --> 00:05:13.920 Scheffler's vehicle then drove another fifteen to twenty yards, making the left into 75 00:05:13.959 --> 00:05:18.439 Valhalla Golf Club before coming to a stop at that point, the officer took 76 00:05:18.480 --> 00:05:25.279 his flashlight and start to bang on Scheffler's car, telling him to open the 77 00:05:25.319 --> 00:05:29.800 window or open the door to get out of the vehicle. Scheffler lowered the 78 00:05:29.800 --> 00:05:34.079 window. The officer then ripped the door open, pulled Scheffler out by the 79 00:05:34.199 --> 00:05:40.040 arm, pushed him up against the vehicle, placed him in handcuffs. At 80 00:05:40.040 --> 00:05:45.680 that point, I approached Scotti Scheffler and the officers. Scheffler turned at me 81 00:05:46.040 --> 00:05:50.160 and said, can you help me. The officers then confronted me, told 82 00:05:50.240 --> 00:05:54.839 me to step back. I informed them that I was a member of the 83 00:05:54.920 --> 00:05:58.680 media, at which point one officer told me there's nothing you can do. 84 00:05:59.319 --> 00:06:03.800 He's going to jail. Another officer that approached me shortly after with a pad 85 00:06:03.800 --> 00:06:08.560 in his hand and said to me, could you please tell us the name 86 00:06:08.600 --> 00:06:14.319 of the person that we arrested. So everything we've seen in the police report, 87 00:06:14.480 --> 00:06:16.920 and I feel like everything we've heard on Scotty Scheffler's side, he did 88 00:06:16.959 --> 00:06:21.279 talk after his round earlier today at a press conference, and I mean, 89 00:06:21.319 --> 00:06:24.879 would you say we heard more from him than you would have expected? Joe, 90 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:27.720 Absolutely, I think we heard more than I would have expected, and 91 00:06:28.199 --> 00:06:31.360 I just expected him to claim that he was wrongfully arrested and that he wants 92 00:06:31.360 --> 00:06:34.879 an apology and they're fighting to get charges dropped, and he didn't really do 93 00:06:34.959 --> 00:06:43.240 that at all. So there's some that just assume he was trying to get 94 00:06:43.240 --> 00:06:48.040 away with not listening to law enforcement because he's the number one golfer in the 95 00:06:48.040 --> 00:06:50.319 world and he's a celebrity and he didn't have to listen to them, and 96 00:06:50.360 --> 00:06:53.160 they claimed that, you know, the hell with him, throw him in 97 00:06:53.199 --> 00:06:56.600 jail. He thinks he's above the law. He shouldn't get special treatment. 98 00:06:56.680 --> 00:06:58.920 And then there's others that just assume, well, here we go, LMPD. 99 00:06:59.079 --> 00:07:04.519 They're out here just using their authority, being hot heads and overreacting and 100 00:07:03.879 --> 00:07:11.480 not de escalating situations and instead escalating them to levels they don't need to be 101 00:07:11.519 --> 00:07:14.560 at like that. To those are the two sides, and I'm sure there 102 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:15.399 are many that are in the middle. I wouldn't even claim that I'm in 103 00:07:15.399 --> 00:07:19.360 the middle. I'm just like, sometimes you can find out details and it 104 00:07:19.399 --> 00:07:23.160 can just truly be okay. Yeah, like both sides kind of a little 105 00:07:23.199 --> 00:07:26.360 bit, you know, could maybe each side would have done some things differently 106 00:07:26.360 --> 00:07:30.240 after the fact, but you know, it's squashed, right. It's not 107 00:07:30.279 --> 00:07:32.079 as if somebody's got to be the enemy and be the one and the wrong 108 00:07:32.160 --> 00:07:35.480 that we hate and the other's going to be a victim. Like, sometimes 109 00:07:35.879 --> 00:07:40.399 it's not just black and white. Sometimes details don't lead it to where somebody's 110 00:07:40.480 --> 00:07:45.160 terrible and the other person's great. And today this whole thing has reminded me 111 00:07:45.199 --> 00:07:49.959 of that that we are like so divided because I think bodycam footage from the 112 00:07:50.000 --> 00:07:55.439 officer who attached himself to the vehicle and later, you know, I mean 113 00:07:55.439 --> 00:07:58.439 he's the victim of technically in the police report, he's the one who you 114 00:07:58.439 --> 00:08:01.879 know, was assaulted and fell in each a second degree felony for Scotti Schefler 115 00:08:01.920 --> 00:08:05.480 because he drove fifteen to twenty yards with this police officer attached to his vehicle. 116 00:08:07.480 --> 00:08:11.560 The body cam footage of that would maybe not even give like it may 117 00:08:11.720 --> 00:08:16.560 just be exactly what we know right now, right like the officer was in 118 00:08:16.639 --> 00:08:20.439 disbelief that he drove with him on the vehicle, and therefore he did what 119 00:08:20.480 --> 00:08:22.680 he thought he had to do as a cop, and that's arrest somebody for 120 00:08:22.839 --> 00:08:26.920 committing what in his eyes was a crime, which I guess technically it is 121 00:08:26.560 --> 00:08:30.319 Scheffler. He could be, you know, the body can footage may show 122 00:08:30.360 --> 00:08:33.440 us that he just you know, wasn't being aggressive, but maybe he wasn't 123 00:08:33.440 --> 00:08:37.080 thinking, Maybe he was sleepwalking. It was a misunderstanding. I mean, 124 00:08:37.320 --> 00:08:39.039 he didn't say this word for word in the clips that we've played for you 125 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:43.919 and we'll play again for those that missed it. But he claims he was 126 00:08:43.399 --> 00:08:48.200 confused as to what he was actually told he was supposed to do, so 127 00:08:48.440 --> 00:08:52.879 maybe that led to him still thinking he should have he should have kept driving. 128 00:08:52.039 --> 00:09:01.039 But again, the two sides here without anybody, I shouldn't say anybody, 129 00:09:01.039 --> 00:09:03.039 but I'm sure there are many that didn't. You know, they didn't 130 00:09:03.080 --> 00:09:05.600 have time. And honestly, some of the some of the transparency here we 131 00:09:05.679 --> 00:09:11.600 may never get. But just knowing what we know, maybe there are some 132 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:13.519 that chalk it up as well that probably should have been avoided. But you 133 00:09:13.559 --> 00:09:16.360 know, things happen, and I'm sure both sides probably could have done things 134 00:09:16.360 --> 00:09:20.480 differently, and it's an unfortunate situation. But you know, I'm not angry 135 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:26.840 and you know, demanding MPD fire a cop or that you know, this 136 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:33.120 golfer go to jail, like I think that's a relatively logical place to reside 137 00:09:33.159 --> 00:09:37.159 within this situation. But again, there are some that won't want any other 138 00:09:37.240 --> 00:09:43.039 detail. They just assume this is an a hole golfer that is not respecting 139 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:46.399 law enforcement and we got to teach him a lesson, And they don't even 140 00:09:46.440 --> 00:09:50.039 want to think for themselves. They just know that that's that's, you know, 141 00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:52.840 in this divide that we have in this country. That is just where 142 00:09:52.879 --> 00:09:58.639 they default to because of that's their beliefs. And then on the other side, 143 00:09:58.679 --> 00:10:03.559 it's the those who think that, you know, LMPD is a bunch 144 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:05.000 of you know, bullies, and they just wanted to do They just wanted 145 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:09.600 to escalate the situation and maybe make an example out of a celebrity, even 146 00:10:09.639 --> 00:10:13.840 though they clearly didn't know who he was. Like, sometimes you can live 147 00:10:13.840 --> 00:10:18.919 in the middle and not be so strongly on one side or the other and 148 00:10:18.960 --> 00:10:22.840 be content at least I can. I think some people should try it because 149 00:10:22.879 --> 00:10:28.960 it keeps me, you know, at peace right. I've never once found 150 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:35.559 myself just defaulting to like even if even in like super serious situations that are 151 00:10:35.440 --> 00:10:39.039 national talking points that we would never talk about on this show, because that's 152 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:43.240 not what this is. I never just assume like, well, this must 153 00:10:43.240 --> 00:10:46.879 this person must be the worst, or that I would I would want to 154 00:10:48.639 --> 00:10:52.639 find any information that I can if I care to even know, if it's 155 00:10:52.679 --> 00:10:54.399 something that I'm bothered about and want to know what happened, if I'm interested 156 00:10:54.440 --> 00:10:58.120 in it, or it impacts me in any way, I'll find out what 157 00:10:58.159 --> 00:11:01.200 I can find out and come to my own conclusion just because that's I thought 158 00:11:01.240 --> 00:11:03.919 what humans do, and now I think we just have, you know, 159 00:11:03.960 --> 00:11:07.559 such this divide, and today, unfortunately, is one of those days where 160 00:11:07.600 --> 00:11:09.480 I think that was that was reminded, you know, And it's what has 161 00:11:09.480 --> 00:11:13.600 me saying this is it's people that I know. It's not just random idiots 162 00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:16.360 on the internet. There are people that I know that I know the way 163 00:11:16.399 --> 00:11:18.720 they feel about law enforcement. There are people that I know that feel the 164 00:11:18.799 --> 00:11:28.159 exact opposite about law enforcement and without really even caring to get the specifics and 165 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:31.879 wait for more facts and information to come out, or maybe just you know, 166 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:35.720 realizing, hey, maybe both are a little bit at fault, that 167 00:11:35.759 --> 00:11:39.039 it's just an unfortunate situation, instead of just being there it's just well, 168 00:11:39.080 --> 00:11:41.799 you know, you know, this guy thinks he can get away with this 169 00:11:41.919 --> 00:11:45.960 Nope, not happening. Throw him in jail, back the blue or the 170 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:48.399 other side again. A bunch of bullies, these tyrants, And it doesn't 171 00:11:48.399 --> 00:11:52.240 always have to be that. And if you just always assume one of those, 172 00:11:52.279 --> 00:11:54.519 if you always assume that in any situation like that has to be miserable. 173 00:11:56.080 --> 00:11:58.679 But you know, I'm not a therapist. I'm you know, I 174 00:11:58.679 --> 00:12:01.440 agree, I don't have much to add to it. But I think most 175 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:05.320 of those people who fall on in one of those two camps, they are 176 00:12:05.480 --> 00:12:09.120 miserable people. Yeah, I hate to say it. They certainly seem like 177 00:12:09.120 --> 00:12:11.360 it. It's the case. It's the way they're that's the way they come 178 00:12:11.399 --> 00:12:16.039 off. And what I truly if you know, I find myself at times 179 00:12:16.120 --> 00:12:20.080 just wondering I because I can't I can't relate, Like why do you care 180 00:12:20.159 --> 00:12:22.399 if I think differently? Like why does that impact you know what I'm saying? 181 00:12:22.480 --> 00:12:26.159 Like if I you know, if it's not something that really is in 182 00:12:26.240 --> 00:12:30.919 any way directly and you know that involved between you and I as human beings. 183 00:12:30.919 --> 00:12:33.600 If I happen to think that this person, you know, I don't. 184 00:12:33.799 --> 00:12:35.720 I don't agree with them, I don't believe them. I don't like 185 00:12:35.759 --> 00:12:39.720 them, Like, there's some that if it's if they know someone feels differently, 186 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:43.840 then it ruins any chance of like any civil conversation, and it just, 187 00:12:45.000 --> 00:12:46.559 you know, I hate that that's where we are, but that's where 188 00:12:46.559 --> 00:12:50.039 we are. So a couple of people have asked this question, and I 189 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:52.039 don't, you know, I don't know the I don't know the answer to 190 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:56.679 it. But it does make sense, you know, they're they're the did 191 00:12:56.720 --> 00:12:58.279 he and as you heard, they did not know who he was. I 192 00:12:58.320 --> 00:13:01.799 don't think it would have at he clearly wasn't going to pull the do you 193 00:13:01.799 --> 00:13:03.240 know who I am? You're gonna regret this card? Because I mean, 194 00:13:03.279 --> 00:13:07.120 that was a good move on his part. Is even if it was a 195 00:13:07.120 --> 00:13:09.000 situation where you shouldn't have been arrested, Like nobody looks good in doing that 196 00:13:09.480 --> 00:13:13.080 at all. But there are some people on the text line suggesting that law 197 00:13:13.159 --> 00:13:18.480 enforcement may at times actually know who you are and be more inclined to not 198 00:13:18.519 --> 00:13:20.919 give you a pass because they want to make an example out of you. 199 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:24.080 They want to, you know, let people know that they don't give a 200 00:13:24.120 --> 00:13:26.720 damn of your celebrity status or whatever it is, They're going to hold you 201 00:13:26.759 --> 00:13:30.320 accountable. Because they have a badge, Like I don't know, I'm sure 202 00:13:30.320 --> 00:13:33.360 that's happened. I'm sure there are celebrities or people that actually didn't get a 203 00:13:33.360 --> 00:13:37.399 pass, but they actually maybe got picked on a little bit because it would 204 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:41.600 be a notable thing to arrest somebody that you know isn't just an average joe, 205 00:13:41.639 --> 00:13:45.200 but somebody that would lead to people thinking like, wow, he or 206 00:13:45.240 --> 00:13:48.759 she did that. So again, we'll let you hear some more of Scheffler's 207 00:13:48.799 --> 00:13:52.519 clips from earlier. We did play those in the four o'clock hour for those 208 00:13:52.559 --> 00:13:58.399 of you that weren't with us. But bodycam footage will we find out if 209 00:13:58.840 --> 00:14:01.279 bodycam footage is going to be available? Will I'm sure. I mean we're 210 00:14:01.279 --> 00:14:05.639 gonna find out because people have probably already requested it. But that's something that 211 00:14:05.679 --> 00:14:09.440 I just am going to be fascinated to see because if they don't have it, 212 00:14:09.559 --> 00:14:13.759 I'm willing to, you know, believe that there may be a policy 213 00:14:13.759 --> 00:14:16.159 that when it comes to like traffic, you wouldn't have it, But then 214 00:14:16.159 --> 00:14:20.000 again, like wouldn't it be uniform no pun intended, meaning that like if 215 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:22.919 you're on duty and you're a cop, you have it on, like there's 216 00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:26.080 no if say, like, that's just what it is, that's the way 217 00:14:26.120 --> 00:14:28.559 it should be. Yeah, and if he did have a body cam that 218 00:14:28.799 --> 00:14:33.279 wasn't on or wasn't working, that that falls on the police department absolutely. 219 00:14:33.320 --> 00:14:39.720 And also you know, if it's covered up because he's wearing that yellow rain 220 00:14:39.840 --> 00:14:43.120 jacket, that's not a good look either, like you that's you know that 221 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:48.000 that's again on, that's on. That's on the police department. And then 222 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:50.080 did he know he was a cop? He hasn't really answered that when he 223 00:14:50.120 --> 00:14:52.679 described the situation. Again, he just kind of chalks it up as a 224 00:14:52.759 --> 00:14:58.879 chaotic misunderstanding. But I've kind of talked about it enough in the last two 225 00:14:58.440 --> 00:15:05.519 hours or so to where it doesn't really matter. Like obviously, I mean, 226 00:15:05.519 --> 00:15:09.039 it does matter, But if you knew the person on your vehicle was 227 00:15:09.080 --> 00:15:11.679 a cop and you felt like they were in the wrong for stopping you, 228 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:15.240 it doesn't make any sense to drive fifteen to twenty. It just doesn't. 229 00:15:15.320 --> 00:15:16.320 I don't know, I don't know why you would choose to do that. 230 00:15:18.639 --> 00:15:22.519 But if it's not somebody who's a cop, but you clearly can see that 231 00:15:22.519 --> 00:15:24.919 they're there working traffic, and maybe it's so dark he didn't see. I 232 00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:28.200 don't know for sure, but if somebody's on your vehicle, the only scenario, 233 00:15:28.279 --> 00:15:31.480 like they are attached to your vehicle, the only scenario where I think 234 00:15:31.519 --> 00:15:33.960 you would just drive off is if you felt that you were in danger. 235 00:15:35.639 --> 00:15:37.960 And I don't mean he hasn't described that he felt that way at all, 236 00:15:39.279 --> 00:15:41.960 And I don't know why he would, because again, even if he didn't 237 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:46.559 believe it's a cop, let's say he believes it's a a security officer like 238 00:15:46.639 --> 00:15:52.399 that just doesn't that reaction doesn't make any sense. He did, and again 239 00:15:52.759 --> 00:15:56.639 I'll never know exactly how he felt, but the way he described everything earlier, 240 00:15:56.639 --> 00:16:00.320 when he was talking about getting booked and going, yeah, the car 241 00:16:00.360 --> 00:16:03.559 and that kind of stuff, he talked about needing to calm down. So 242 00:16:03.679 --> 00:16:06.799 I feel like there was at some point some panic, yeah, or maybe 243 00:16:06.879 --> 00:16:08.679 feeling like he was in danger. Again, I don't know this. You 244 00:16:08.679 --> 00:16:11.399 don't know this, None of us know this right now, but it wouldn't 245 00:16:11.440 --> 00:16:15.639 surprise me if we find out that he had no idea who was on the 246 00:16:15.639 --> 00:16:18.159 car. Yeah, and he said, you know, he did say calm 247 00:16:18.240 --> 00:16:22.799 down, but he seemed calm as can be when they were walking him to 248 00:16:22.879 --> 00:16:26.159 the car, but maybe that was after the fact, right, Yeah, 249 00:16:26.519 --> 00:16:33.039 so maybe that you know that. That's also after he had been taken to 250 00:16:33.080 --> 00:16:36.120 the car. If you remember, he said he asked somebody to like come 251 00:16:36.120 --> 00:16:38.120 and sit with him in the car or near the car. Yeah, so 252 00:16:38.879 --> 00:16:42.799 that was after he was walked very calmly and you can't even hear him, 253 00:16:42.799 --> 00:16:49.480 but he does ask Darlington, can you help me? So yeah, I'm 254 00:16:49.559 --> 00:16:55.159 just fascinated to that it got to this point and I find myself kind of 255 00:16:55.200 --> 00:16:59.120 desperately wanting to know, Okay, what was the trigger? How did it 256 00:16:59.240 --> 00:17:03.360 get from? He was told to go this way, other golfers were going 257 00:17:03.759 --> 00:17:07.920 this way, and then he drove where he shouldn't be and a cop tried 258 00:17:07.960 --> 00:17:11.960 to stop him, attached himself to the vehicle and he drove fifty Like how 259 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:14.880 did we get there? And body came footage I think would tell us, 260 00:17:14.880 --> 00:17:21.640 but we may not get it all right. Here here's what he had to 261 00:17:21.680 --> 00:17:25.079 say. These are some clips from his press conference earlier today at around four 262 00:17:25.079 --> 00:17:32.400 o'clock. This was let's see, this is the decision not to tell the 263 00:17:32.440 --> 00:17:36.519 police who he was when when they got me out of the car. I 264 00:17:36.559 --> 00:17:41.079 you know, I like I said, it was very chaotic, and you 265 00:17:41.079 --> 00:17:41.920 know, I said, I'm sorry, I'm just trying to get to my 266 00:17:41.960 --> 00:17:45.720 tea time. And outside of that, it was then it just things you 267 00:17:45.759 --> 00:17:51.200 know, escalated from there. I did, you know, numerous apologies and 268 00:17:51.240 --> 00:17:52.480 whatever. But like I said, it was it was chaotic, it's dark, 269 00:17:52.519 --> 00:17:55.279 it's raining, you know, there's a lot of stuff going on. 270 00:17:55.359 --> 00:17:57.480 They just had an accident. I didn't know what had happened at the time, 271 00:17:57.839 --> 00:18:00.359 other than there was an accident. I didn't know that it was it 272 00:18:00.440 --> 00:18:04.359 was fatal, and yeah, like I said, my heart goes out to 273 00:18:04.400 --> 00:18:07.359 the family, but no, at no point did I did. I tried 274 00:18:07.359 --> 00:18:11.000 to name drop myself to diffuse the situation. I just tried to remain as 275 00:18:11.000 --> 00:18:15.000 calm as possible and you know, just fall instructions. And this is him 276 00:18:15.039 --> 00:18:18.799 discussing again after things had clearly escalated and he was taken to jail, sort 277 00:18:18.839 --> 00:18:22.440 of like what was going through his head. And again, I'm just now 278 00:18:22.440 --> 00:18:26.319 that I'm hearing it a second time, I mean, so calm, so 279 00:18:26.640 --> 00:18:32.160 mature, like he seems very like whatever about it, like nonchalant, which 280 00:18:32.559 --> 00:18:34.200 I don't take that as like an issue. I take it is okay. 281 00:18:34.200 --> 00:18:37.000 He's not being hostile, he's not playing the victim. He's being you know, 282 00:18:37.480 --> 00:18:41.160 respectful of everything. But then there are some people that probably got think 283 00:18:41.359 --> 00:18:42.400 this guy he tried to run over a call, but he can just be 284 00:18:42.400 --> 00:18:45.200 out here acting like it's no Like, you know, there are certain people 285 00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:48.640 that are never going to be pleased regardless of what they think, because they 286 00:18:48.720 --> 00:18:51.599 have their mind already made up and they feel so strongly about it. But 287 00:18:52.039 --> 00:18:53.640 the more we've heard from Scottie Scheffler, the more I'm thinking, like, 288 00:18:53.680 --> 00:18:56.960 wait a second, how did this happen? This just doesn't make any sense 289 00:18:56.000 --> 00:18:59.920 at all. I didn't really know. I was just so confused that what 290 00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:02.680 was happening at the time that you know, I didn't know what time it 291 00:19:02.759 --> 00:19:04.240 was. I didn't know what was going on. But when I was sitting 292 00:19:04.279 --> 00:19:07.279 in like the holding cell or whatever I was, there was a TV there 293 00:19:07.279 --> 00:19:11.240 and I could see myself on the TV on ESPN, and it was Get 294 00:19:11.319 --> 00:19:14.680 Up was on, and so in the corner it showed the time and they 295 00:19:14.720 --> 00:19:15.960 said they were delayed, and I was kind of thinking about my tea time. 296 00:19:15.960 --> 00:19:18.160 I was like, well, maybe you know, I could be able 297 00:19:18.200 --> 00:19:22.559 to get out, you know, the officers downstairs, and you know, 298 00:19:22.559 --> 00:19:25.920 they were they were discussing how long it was going to take me to get 299 00:19:25.920 --> 00:19:27.119 released. You know, obviously you have to go through all all the due 300 00:19:27.119 --> 00:19:30.759 process and everything, and you know, I was able to kind of see 301 00:19:30.759 --> 00:19:33.000 a bit of the TV, and you know, then I laid down and 302 00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:33.960 then I started to stretch a little bit, once I got my heart rate 303 00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:41.240 down a little bit. He got a sandwich that was something that was played 304 00:19:41.279 --> 00:19:45.240 in the clip that I'm about to play here, and I just saw it 305 00:19:45.240 --> 00:19:47.599 pop open on my Twitter timeline. You know, that seems to be what 306 00:19:47.599 --> 00:19:51.559 everybody's running with, is that through all everything, he was still, you 307 00:19:51.599 --> 00:19:55.440 know, appreciative that when he was booked that he got he got the sandwich. 308 00:19:55.440 --> 00:19:57.799 So hey, this is him being complementary of l MPD. After the 309 00:19:57.799 --> 00:20:03.359 fact. The officer that took me to the to the jail was was very 310 00:20:03.400 --> 00:20:04.680 kind. He was great. You know, he had a nice chat in 311 00:20:04.680 --> 00:20:07.400 the car that kind of helped calm me down. And I was sitting there 312 00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:08.200 waiting to kind of go in. I asked him, I was like, 313 00:20:08.200 --> 00:20:11.039 hey, excuse me, can you just come hes come hang out with me 314 00:20:11.039 --> 00:20:14.400 for a few minutes so I can calm down, and uh, you know 315 00:20:14.480 --> 00:20:17.880 I was. I was never you know, angry. I was just in 316 00:20:17.920 --> 00:20:19.359 shock and I think my body was just I was shaking the whole time. 317 00:20:19.400 --> 00:20:22.000 I was shaking for like an hour. It was. It was definitely a 318 00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:25.559 new feeling for me. And he came out and we had a nice chat, 319 00:20:25.599 --> 00:20:29.200 and then the the officers inside the jail were tremendous. A couple of 320 00:20:29.240 --> 00:20:30.400 them made some jokes. I think when they figured out, you know, 321 00:20:30.640 --> 00:20:33.720 who I was and what happened and you know how I ended up there, 322 00:20:33.920 --> 00:20:38.839 you know, they uh, this one, this one older officer looked at 323 00:20:38.839 --> 00:20:41.680 me as I was doing like my fingerprints or whatever, and he looks at 324 00:20:41.680 --> 00:20:45.279 me. He goes, so do you want the full experience today? And 325 00:20:45.319 --> 00:20:48.759 I kind of looked at him and I was like, I don't know how 326 00:20:48.759 --> 00:20:49.039 to answer that. And he's like, come on, man, you want 327 00:20:49.039 --> 00:20:52.079 a sandwich? And I was like, sure, I'll take a sandwich. 328 00:20:52.119 --> 00:20:53.960 I didn't breakfast yet, and so, I mean, they were really kind. 329 00:20:55.039 --> 00:20:59.079 I'm grateful to have I'm grateful that we have, you know, such 330 00:20:59.119 --> 00:21:02.000 strong police and you know there are protectors out there, and you know, 331 00:21:02.119 --> 00:21:06.119 like I said, we just got into a chaotic situation this morning. That's 332 00:21:06.119 --> 00:21:11.200 really all it was. So this is not from from Scheffler. This isn't 333 00:21:11.480 --> 00:21:15.119 a clip. But earlier today his attorney did release a statement and they did 334 00:21:15.119 --> 00:21:18.920 clan you know, Steve Romans did say that they planned to plead not guilty 335 00:21:18.960 --> 00:21:25.000 to the charges. That was a statement that Scheffler put out again with his 336 00:21:25.039 --> 00:21:29.079 attorney, And this is, I guess, kind of along the same lines 337 00:21:29.119 --> 00:21:32.279 of what we've just played for you. But he says this morning, I 338 00:21:32.359 --> 00:21:34.880 was proceeding as directed by police officers. It was a very chaotic situation, 339 00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:38.599 and understandably so, considering the tragic accident that occurred earlier. And there was 340 00:21:38.640 --> 00:21:42.240 a big misunderstanding of what I thought I was being asked to do. I 341 00:21:42.319 --> 00:21:47.119 never intended to disregard any of the instructions. I'm hopeful to put this to 342 00:21:47.240 --> 00:21:51.240 the side and focus on golf today. I feel like my head is still 343 00:21:51.240 --> 00:21:52.680 spinning. I can't really explain what happened this morning. I did spend some 344 00:21:52.720 --> 00:21:56.240 time stretching in a jail cell. That's the first for me. I was 345 00:21:56.279 --> 00:22:00.200 fortunate to be able to make it back out and play some golf today. 346 00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:07.839 So I mean, I feel like they're gonna plead guilty, and he's going 347 00:22:07.880 --> 00:22:12.359 to chalk it up to the misunderstanding and hopes that they do drop the charges, 348 00:22:14.440 --> 00:22:17.279 and maybe they do that, I don't know. But again, at 349 00:22:17.279 --> 00:22:22.119 no point does it sound as if he's going to maintain that he that he 350 00:22:22.920 --> 00:22:26.119 you know, was a victim and that he was wrongfully arrested. So it's 351 00:22:26.119 --> 00:22:32.240 almost one of those things like this is clearly an insane story and insane situation. 352 00:22:33.079 --> 00:22:36.319 Big deal, yes, But the more we like, you know, 353 00:22:36.559 --> 00:22:41.319 hear from him and see that if you know, he did what officers said 354 00:22:41.359 --> 00:22:44.400 he did, then they probably would react the way they reacted. Like it's 355 00:22:44.400 --> 00:22:47.200 almost like we should just move on like this. You know, that's not 356 00:22:47.240 --> 00:22:51.079 going to happen. And I'm surely hoping we do get body body cam footage 357 00:22:51.119 --> 00:22:56.039 because it'll at least give us some real transparency. But that's my guess. 358 00:22:56.039 --> 00:22:56.759 You have a guest, John, as far as what happens here, I 359 00:22:56.799 --> 00:23:00.799 think you're I think you're right on the money. I agree, he'll probably 360 00:23:00.920 --> 00:23:03.279 plead down to you know, or just drop charges. And you know, 361 00:23:03.359 --> 00:23:07.839 because he's already said, you know, misunderstanding and he you know, he's 362 00:23:07.839 --> 00:23:10.599 sorry, and I don't know if that's gonna be good enough. There'll be 363 00:23:10.640 --> 00:23:12.079 something that claim will know. He can't be sorry and get away with it 364 00:23:12.119 --> 00:23:15.839 and have charge of drop just because he's you know, it may on the 365 00:23:15.880 --> 00:23:18.359 personality of the officer and what he wants to happen, but by all accounts, 366 00:23:18.359 --> 00:23:21.799 like to me he is. He has responded as if, like you 367 00:23:21.839 --> 00:23:25.039 know what, I misunderstood something and it led to something happening that should not 368 00:23:25.079 --> 00:23:27.759 have happened, and it was big misunderstanding and LMPD has been great like it. 369 00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:32.519 I don't know why is everybody mad for him? If he's chilling like 370 00:23:32.559 --> 00:23:36.200 he's not mad. All right, we'll talk some football on the other side, 371 00:23:36.240 --> 00:23:38.759 because CBS Sports the crew over there, they've put out their annual rankings 372 00:23:38.759 --> 00:23:41.839 for the Power four because the Power five is dead. The Power four college 373 00:23:41.839 --> 00:23:48.640 football coaches will tell you where Mark Stoops and Jeff Brohm came in. Well 374 00:23:48.640 --> 00:23:52.839 done, John, good song choice there. All right. Reminder, I 375 00:23:52.839 --> 00:23:56.519 want to be here next week, so you'll be in good hands with a 376 00:23:56.640 --> 00:24:00.559 crew various different folks going to be helping out. John is going to kind 377 00:24:00.559 --> 00:24:03.759 of run the show quarterback, and if you will on Monday, Scott Fitzgerald 378 00:24:03.759 --> 00:24:06.319 for a couple of days, and then Tony and Dave. I believe we'll 379 00:24:06.319 --> 00:24:11.319 finish up the week. So I am glad that this, you know, 380 00:24:11.440 --> 00:24:14.640 is something I was around to kind of react to, just because it's you 381 00:24:14.720 --> 00:24:17.559 know, it's a big story that leads to you know, a lot of 382 00:24:17.559 --> 00:24:19.480 people wanting to figure out the latest, which you know, if you were 383 00:24:19.519 --> 00:24:23.079 on in the mornings, I mean it would have been I mean, you 384 00:24:23.200 --> 00:24:26.960 had a lot of people tuning in to get the latest in that kind of 385 00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:29.119 stuff. It seems as if things have kind of settled now. I mean, 386 00:24:29.119 --> 00:24:32.200 he went out there and played golf, and I guess now we just 387 00:24:32.240 --> 00:24:36.640 wait to see if charges are dropped or what happens. But I keep thinking, 388 00:24:36.680 --> 00:24:38.960 like, there are you know, think I'm just I mean, I 389 00:24:38.960 --> 00:24:44.119 can only speak for myself, but I can't be alone and wanting some kind 390 00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:47.319 of not payoff, but just like, you know, an explanation to how 391 00:24:47.359 --> 00:24:49.119 it got to that point. But there's a good chance that that never ends 392 00:24:49.200 --> 00:24:53.720 up happening, so we shall see. All right, let's talk some football. 393 00:24:56.000 --> 00:25:00.960 Each year, the college Football crew at CBS Sports, they unveil their 394 00:25:02.240 --> 00:25:04.880 rankings for the best coaches in the sport Now it used to be the Power 395 00:25:04.920 --> 00:25:07.640 five. Now with the PAC twelve dead, it's just the Power four, 396 00:25:08.279 --> 00:25:11.519 ACC, Big East, I'm sorry, the ACC, Big ten, Big 397 00:25:11.559 --> 00:25:18.000 twelve and SEC. So Tom Fournellie, Chip Patterson, and I believe there's 398 00:25:18.039 --> 00:25:22.200 one more writer for them that I guess collectively, you know, provide their 399 00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:27.960 thoughts and they use all of the thoughts of these writers and put the rankings 400 00:25:27.960 --> 00:25:33.920 together. So both Jeff Brom and Mark Stoops came in in the top twenty 401 00:25:33.960 --> 00:25:37.200 five. Have you seen this, John, I haven't any guess as to 402 00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:44.119 where Stoops came in in the top twenty five. I would say between fifteen 403 00:25:44.160 --> 00:25:48.400 and twenty somewhere. You're right. He came in at number twenty. Jeff 404 00:25:48.400 --> 00:25:52.559 Brom came in a number nineteen. So I'll read you real quick the write 405 00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:56.599 up that they have for each of these two coaches, but the movement from 406 00:25:56.680 --> 00:26:00.720 last year. So when Jeff Brom got to Louisville last summer, obviously he 407 00:26:00.720 --> 00:26:04.759 hadn't coached a game yet, he was ranked thirty third, which I remember 408 00:26:04.799 --> 00:26:10.599 thinking, man, like I get it, like they've not been like Purdue 409 00:26:10.599 --> 00:26:14.279 has not been a juggernaut. But again I and I'm clearly biased when it 410 00:26:14.319 --> 00:26:18.559 comes to Jeff, but I just would get so, I mean just irritated 411 00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:21.880 when people would just reference his record at Purdue as if that meant that, 412 00:26:21.960 --> 00:26:26.440 well, you know, he must be a terrible coach, because context matters, 413 00:26:26.559 --> 00:26:30.200 and I don't think you have to go hunting for like some crazy unknown 414 00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:33.799 details about the situation to realize that, yeah, Purdue wasn't, you know, 415 00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:38.160 winning the Big Ten, although they didn't play in the Big Ten Championship, 416 00:26:38.200 --> 00:26:41.519 which is crazy for Purdue, but like Purdue was winning at a level 417 00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:45.519 they haven't won at in a long time, and winning big games. You 418 00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:51.160 know, Jeff Brown at Perdue went three to oh against top three teams when 419 00:26:51.160 --> 00:26:56.400 he was unranked. He had you know, a winning record in Big Ten 420 00:26:56.440 --> 00:27:03.480 play during his six years there. The coaches before him Danny Hope thirteen and 421 00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:07.440 nineteen in four seasons, Daryl Hazel or Hazel three and twenty four in four 422 00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:11.319 seasons. So you know, there's not a whole lot on his resume at 423 00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:14.319 Purdue specifically that you can just point to as far as numbers that claim, 424 00:27:14.440 --> 00:27:19.720 you know, well, he's great, But I think context matters and Perdue, 425 00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:22.920 I don't know, if you guys saw this or not, they have 426 00:27:22.039 --> 00:27:26.039 the lowest win total projection in the Big Ten next year. Did you see 427 00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:29.279 that, John? I did. But they're supposed to suck. It doesn't 428 00:27:29.319 --> 00:27:32.400 surprise me because they sucked. They always sucked. Jill was there, and 429 00:27:32.440 --> 00:27:36.279 the fact that they loaded up on tough non conference games for whatever reason. 430 00:27:36.279 --> 00:27:37.680 They don't need that. Well, and to be fair, like they've not 431 00:27:37.799 --> 00:27:41.440 always sucked, but because they had their run with Drew Brees and I know 432 00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:45.559 Tiller was there, and like they weren't always a joke. But like even 433 00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:48.799 the Purdue fans, like when Braun was leaving, like they didn't quite grasp 434 00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:52.559 that, Like, no, you weren't great, you were kind of good, 435 00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:56.480 and it was because of him, not you. They had an elitist 436 00:27:56.799 --> 00:28:00.680 feel about themselves in football that I couldn't quite understand and relate. Kind of 437 00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:03.759 made me understand, you know, maybe why IU fans hate them. But 438 00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:07.480 well, that's every team in the Big Ten West. When the divisions were 439 00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:08.880 still a thing, they all thought they were so good winning their division. 440 00:28:08.920 --> 00:28:11.319 But yeah, none of them are really good in that division in my opinion. 441 00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:14.440 Yeah, and now the divisions are gone, right, that's true. 442 00:28:14.759 --> 00:28:19.519 So back to the numbers here, Brom jumped from number thirty three to number 443 00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:23.880 nineteen. That's fourteen spots. That's a big time difference, big, big 444 00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:27.359 time difference. And here's what it says about Brom. Few coaches are as 445 00:28:27.440 --> 00:28:30.759 consistent across multiple spots as Brom, which indicates how good he is. Brom 446 00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:33.640 went seventeen and nine and his final two seasons of perdue winning the Big Ten 447 00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:37.960 West in his final season. He then returns to his alma mater and immediately 448 00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:41.039 leads Lover to a ten win season in an AEC championship game. Some appoints 449 00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:44.279 of Louisville schedule last season, but plenty of teams catch breaks in their in 450 00:28:44.319 --> 00:28:48.319 their schedule every year. Most don't take advantage. However, Brom's teams always 451 00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:53.079 squeeze every ounce of potential out of themselves. Couldn't agree more like, last 452 00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:56.720 year was fun as hell and it was a good year. Regardless of what 453 00:28:56.720 --> 00:28:59.119 anybody says. That was a good year. You played in the AEC Championship 454 00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:00.599 game for the first time, you won ten games in the regular season. 455 00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:11.640 But I think that team reached their potential and probably actually exceeded it. Like 456 00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:15.359 they probably ended up with a better record than they actually were, and I'm 457 00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:18.119 sorry that could be. Yes, breaks that get you, they go your 458 00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:21.240 way with scheduling, but also it's a coach that's getting the most out of 459 00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:23.799 what he has to work with. All right, here's what they say about 460 00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:26.200 Mark Stukes. And by the way, he is down two spots. He 461 00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:30.880 was at eighteen last year Nicet twenty considering the university didn't want to pay John 462 00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:33.519 Caliperry's buyout and then cali Perry. I mean, they're talking about Caliperry and 463 00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:36.400 the right up about why Mark Stoops is ranked number twentieth, it is considering 464 00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:38.160 the university didn't want to pay the John Caliperry buyout, and then cali Perry 465 00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:41.200 left to take the Arkansas job. We can now say definitively that Kentucky is 466 00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:45.079 a football school. Well done. That's not a good joke, says the 467 00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:48.400 fact. I say that only half jokingly as a testament to the job Stoops 468 00:29:48.440 --> 00:29:51.599 has done in Lexton. Stoops is seventy three and sixty five with two ten 469 00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:53.680 win seasons in eleven years with the Wildcats, and he's seventy one and fifty 470 00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:59.279 five after his two and ten first season. Things have evened out in the 471 00:29:59.319 --> 00:30:03.079 last two years and Stoops has respect from our panel. I have no issue 472 00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:08.920 with anything they said because stoops record since they had a two inten season in 473 00:30:08.920 --> 00:30:11.880 his first year when he took over for Joker Phillips when he inherited, nothing 474 00:30:12.319 --> 00:30:15.279 like that matters like that. That's something that is on his record. But 475 00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:18.279 yeah, like since then, to see that he's been that much better like 476 00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:22.960 that, that that's not surprising because again, Kentucky football is in a drastically 477 00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:27.240 different situation than they've ever been in where they now have some stability. They 478 00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:33.880 now go to bowl games consistently. They don't usually do anything substantial to where 479 00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:38.279 they're like, you know, competing for the playoff or knocking off elite teams. 480 00:30:40.480 --> 00:30:45.759 But they are stable and they're more competitive in you know, the big 481 00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:48.839 games that they lose to teams that are really good. They're way more competitive 482 00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:52.519 in a lot of those games than they used to ever be. So I 483 00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:55.759 always say this about Stoops, and I don't think it's a backhanded compliment. 484 00:30:56.119 --> 00:30:59.559 I think it's quite clear. But you know, he's a made man in 485 00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:02.880 Lexington and their fans, you know, they hated him last year, but 486 00:31:02.920 --> 00:31:06.640 then he beat Louisville and now you know things are great again. But what 487 00:31:06.880 --> 00:31:11.039 makes Stoops a guy that the panel at CBS and others like he's a respected 488 00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:15.519 coach. I don't think anybody thinks he's great. He's never been offered like 489 00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:18.880 a better job, unless you believe that A and M really was going to 490 00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:22.039 offer him the job and he decided to turn it down. I don't believe 491 00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:23.720 that, but hey, you can believe what you want. Clearly there was 492 00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:26.640 interest. But my point is this, like he's good, but what makes 493 00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:33.920 him respected the way he is respected is because he's made Kentucky not terrible and 494 00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:37.640 that was at time. That was at a time something nobody thought possible. 495 00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:42.559 So you know what the ceiling is for Mark Stoops? I don't know. 496 00:31:42.680 --> 00:31:48.559 I actually think to see them do another type of ten win season, I 497 00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:52.519 just don't see that being doable because you know, they just added Texas and 498 00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:55.200 Oklahoma. There's no divisions like they're gonna play. And to be fair, 499 00:31:55.640 --> 00:31:57.519 I think the criticism for Kentucky fans last year for going three to five in 500 00:31:57.559 --> 00:32:01.160 the SEC was that tennis he's passed you. South Carolina sucked, but they 501 00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:06.599 beat you. I mean, who were the SEC wins for Kentucky last year? 502 00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:09.519 Vandy? They beat Florida early on and it looked like a good win 503 00:32:09.559 --> 00:32:12.720 and then that kind of fell apart. Who was their other win? Was 504 00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:15.079 it Mississippi or South Carolina? No, South Carolina was awful and beat them. 505 00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:19.920 I just mentioned like South Carolina beat them bad and they stunk. Who 506 00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:27.799 was their other win? Might have been Mississippi State, but then again I 507 00:32:27.799 --> 00:32:29.960 think it was Misisis State because they were terrible last year, weren't they? 508 00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:32.039 Or am I just you know? Anyways, you know, I'm not surprised 509 00:32:32.039 --> 00:32:37.079 to see Stoops at number twenty, But what I would like to see if 510 00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:42.000 these guys are drafting a coach, like if this panel at CVS, If 511 00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:46.240 they're drafting a coach and it's you know, one by one off the board, 512 00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:51.599 like they're doing the draft like we did John with college basketball coaches, 513 00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:54.759 I don't think Stoops would be taken in the top twenty five or maybe even 514 00:32:54.799 --> 00:33:01.559 top thirty. Like for example, they have Marcus Freeman and Josh Hipel and 515 00:33:01.599 --> 00:33:07.839 Matt Campbell behind Mark Stoops and Eli Drinkwitz. Eli Drinkwitz just beat Ohio State 516 00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:13.599 in a bowlt in a New Year's game and won the SEC East. Did 517 00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:15.599 he not? Oh no, I'm sorry Georgia obviously when the SEC East. 518 00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:20.920 But like clearly they were good last year. Josh Hipel's been better than Kentucky 519 00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:23.559 since he's been at Tennessee. Marcus Freeman, you know, we'll see this 520 00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:25.559 year what happens, kind of a flash in the pank. I mean, 521 00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:29.160 you know, they've not really done much. They've not been terrible, but 522 00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:30.839 they've not really I mean Notre Dame's kind of just been you know, slightly 523 00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:38.440 below I guess their standards since then. So results like buzz momentum, Hypel, 524 00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:44.000 drink Witz, sunny Dyke's at TC, you played in the freaking college 525 00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:47.319 National and in the National championship game, they're behind Stoops And again it's because 526 00:33:47.839 --> 00:33:51.200 well, I mean, yeah, he didn't. He doesn't have any of 527 00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:55.319 those credentials accolades. But maybe he's a Kentucky and they don't suck anymore. 528 00:33:55.440 --> 00:33:59.880 They're actually stable and they more often than not get to a bowl game. 529 00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:04.319 All Right, I got a question for you, John, Uh huh. 530 00:34:04.680 --> 00:34:07.160 Your man's not listed here in the top twenty five, and I don't think 531 00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:09.559 you expected Signetti to be not at all to put in the top twenty five. 532 00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:13.480 If he's there next year at anywhere. Let's say it's at twenty five 533 00:34:13.559 --> 00:34:16.119 or twenty four. Let's just say anywhere between like nineteen and twenty five. 534 00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:22.199 What season do the Hoosiers have for that to be the case. I would 535 00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:28.079 say they need to win at least eight regular season games, would probably win 536 00:34:28.519 --> 00:34:32.400 their bowl game. Indiana hasn't won a bowl game in any capacity since I 537 00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:36.000 think the eighties something like that. Here's what I would say to you, 538 00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:37.800 John, you're I don't think you're wrong at all, because eight wins at 539 00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:42.440 Indiana is unheard of in the regular season. I mean, it happened with 540 00:34:42.519 --> 00:34:46.719 Alan back in nineteen. Yeah. Yeah, so it's happened before. But 541 00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:52.119 I think you can get seven because of how bad Indiana has been towards the 542 00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:53.559 end of the Tom Allen era. Yeah. And I think if you get 543 00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:58.199 seven and you get one win against a team that like is a big win, 544 00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:00.920 like a Washington or something ten, or maybe you mess around and beat 545 00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:07.719 Michigan at home, or even any of the of the potential blue blood type 546 00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:09.280 school. If you beat her, even a team that's not like, let's 547 00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:12.599 just say Michigan State end up being really good this year, which I don't 548 00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:14.760 think they're going to be, but if they were and knocked you knocked him 549 00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:15.480 off in East landsing and I know you beat him recently, but like, 550 00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:20.519 let's say they're they're having a phenomenal year. I think seven regular season wins 551 00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:23.679 and a win against a team that like was a big deal for Indiana. 552 00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:27.320 I think that because he already has a lot of respect. Like nobody he's 553 00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:30.679 not in He is not not included here because they think he stinks, because 554 00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:32.840 it's just he's taking a jump up from jmu Right. Yes, so I 555 00:35:32.840 --> 00:35:37.280 think that's doable. And I don't know the history of Indiana football coaches. 556 00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:39.719 In fact, I don't know much about any of them other than the guy 557 00:35:39.719 --> 00:35:45.159 they just let go. But Signetti has a quiet, now I shouldn't say 558 00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:50.119 so quiet confidence. But it's also not like he's not Dean Sanders confident, 559 00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:53.159 Like he's not cocky as far as his personality, but he will speak and 560 00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:57.599 you can quite milarly understand that he is confident in what he and what he 561 00:35:57.840 --> 00:36:00.920 can do as a coach. He's not complaining about a lot of resources, 562 00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:02.480 like something he wants to go win, and he says that's what they're going 563 00:36:02.519 --> 00:36:06.159 to go do, and that's got to be great for Indiana fans to hear. 564 00:36:06.199 --> 00:36:07.000 And I feel like I'm excited, yeah, And I feel like, 565 00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:09.440 you know, we all know you never know how any of these coaches work 566 00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:13.079 out in anything until you actually get the results. But like the fact that 567 00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:15.599 he has that kind of confidence I feel like is new for Indiana and you 568 00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:20.039 know, if he's if he's legit, which again, you know this like 569 00:36:20.079 --> 00:36:22.880 getting you all to a bowl game in year one is not an unthinkable task 570 00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:24.599 by any means. No, I mean he can be at home games next 571 00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:28.280 year, and a lot of them against teams that you could potentially beat. 572 00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:30.400 So I mean you go into the UCLA game all the way to the Rose 573 00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:32.880 Bowl. That'd be wild, be a good trip, though, it would 574 00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:35.800 be all right, quick break, we'll come back and wrap this thing up. 575 00:36:36.119 --> 00:36:39.320 Stick around right here on SportsTalk seven ninety. I know some of you 576 00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:46.519 today have not been as all over this crazy story of Scottie Scheffler getting arrested. 577 00:36:46.559 --> 00:36:51.440 So maybe you are someone that is just always twenty four to seven on 578 00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:54.519 alert to see if there's any new players to keep an eye on for the 579 00:36:54.559 --> 00:37:00.000 Louisville basketball rosters. So we've talked about Noah Waterman, who did in fact 580 00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:05.239 take a visit yesterday was there were pictures of him taken at Jeff Ruby's so 581 00:37:05.599 --> 00:37:07.679 I have not heard anything about the visit. But after the visit concluded, 582 00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:09.960 it was later reported that he was going to go visit Cincinnati, and he 583 00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:14.639 may still visit Cincinnati, but within the last couple of hours, Cincinnati landed 584 00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:20.239 another player at his position who transferred from Texas, Dylan Mitte. Yeah, 585 00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:23.760 Dylan Mitchell. So the insiders that cover Cincinnati for twenty our seven Sports have 586 00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:28.000 said that they now and don't even expect the Noah Waterman visit to happen after 587 00:37:28.079 --> 00:37:30.519 Mitchell committed, So they could be wrong. You really never know. In 588 00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:34.079 the portal world. There's been there's been plenty of good times. Guys are 589 00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:37.239 wrong as far as what's happening and whatnot. But you know, he'd be 590 00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:40.800 a big time edition, no doubt. So fingers crossed. Maybe he doesn't 591 00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:45.440 make the visit, maybe he ends up committing tonight or something that'd be great 592 00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:47.559 because not only would it, you know, get you another step closer to 593 00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:51.280 finishing the roster. It would give you another good player that I think can 594 00:37:51.320 --> 00:37:54.119 really help you. All Right, you guys, have yourselves, a good 595 00:37:54.199 --> 00:38:00.199 evening, a good weekend, stay safe and again, enjoy next week without 596 00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:02.079 me, and enjoy your time away from us. Thank you. I'm gonna 597 00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:06.000 try my best and you know again I mean it, you got it. 598 00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:07.639 People need a break from me, So I'll be gone for a week and 599 00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:10.280 then i'll be back, recharge, ready to roll. So again, have 600 00:38:10.360 --> 00:38:12.320 a going take care,