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hoping to snap a three game losing streak under the Monday night lights against the
Jacksonville Jaguars in Jacksonville. We get the latest on the Jags in our crossover
preview with Tony Wiggins. This was a really, really fun show. Let's
dive into it right here. Un Lockdown Bengals. You are Locked On Bengals,
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conversation with Tony Wiggins. As part of our crossover, we started with the
biggest storylines surrounding the Jaguars. My first biggest storyline is, can't get caught
sleeping at the wheel if you're Jacksonville thinking everything sweet just because Joe Burrow is
missing. You know, as far as I'm concerned, is coach Amarulo is
still over there. He's still there, right yeah, yeah yeah. And
Remo is still over there and call him plays. They still got a defensive
end named Hendrickson or something like that. He's still there, right yeah.
Uh. They got a wide receiver Jamar Chase. And look, there's still
a dangerous, dangerous, wounded football team. And what the Jaguars can't do
is sit here and lay an egg because they have a two game lead in
the AFC South. I'm very weary of games like this because it is the
NFL and you can get got by anybody. The Jaguars last game of the
last year was against the Tennessee Titans at home, in front of the whole
country, with a playoff game at stake, and they were losing with two
minutes to go, and Josh Dobbins was the quarterback. So we know what
it's like when a team that has pride, team that is used to winning,
comes in wounded and you think it's okay, and then all of a
sudden, the game starts to ebb and flow and it doesn't go your way.
I'm weary that the Jack wash will allow that to happen. The biggest
storyline for the Bengals is simple, can you be that sleeper team now that
teams overlook and can you make a playoff push without Joe Burrow? And as
I say that, I can feel our listeners and viewers on the Bengal side
of things cringing because a lot of them are thinking about the draft and about
the off season and offseason moves. Well, the Bengals aren't thinking that way.
Internally, They're thinking, all right, we've dropped three straight. We
have to respond We're still in the thick of the playoff race. We got
to get a win in Jacksonville. And can they Yeah they can, Will
they? Well, that's a whole nother, whole other topic. And I
think the reality started to set in that it wasn't going to be and they
knew that without Joe Burrow was going to change things. But when they lost
to Pittsburgh the other day, a game that they probably felt like they should
have won with how turn the ball over in the red zone, then the
Bengals gave it right back in the red zone and it kind of cost them,
But it was a game that was there to be stolen in the division
and to lose that sixteen to ten, I think they're like, oh,
is this who we are now? So the biggest storyline for me is this
who the Bengals are? Or are they going to be this sneaky, feisty,
scrappy team that still has Jamar Chase and is probably going to get some
of their talent back that was out last week, including a T Higgins,
maybe a Cam Taylor britt and they certainly have talent to be scrappy and to
be a problem and to be more than just a speed bump for these teams
that are clearly eyeing the top seeds in the AFC, like the Jacksonville Jaguars.
So that's the storyline is who are these Bengals. Are they going to
win just a game or two the rest of the way and not really be
that competitive or are they going to be competitive and be a tough out even
though they don't have Joe Burrow. A lot of teams win individual games without
great quarterbacks. They usually don't win those games when there's a significant drop off
and the quarterback just got hurt. So when you say a three game losing
streak, I'm thinking at some point that kid's gonna get better and at some
point he's going to be more serviceable, almost a Tommy DeVito type. How
they upset somebody last week when everybody thought that they were done. I don't
want him to wake up this week, right, I don't want things to
click this week. And when you have a defensive coordinator that can dial stuff
up, when you have a running back who can carry the low, he
can get twenty five carries, and when you have a receiver, all you
got to do is get him the ball on quick out and he can do
whatever he has to do, and you can start manufacturing first downs jacks fast
to make sure that they don't get caught in that formula NFL type game where
special teams and then you got a kicker who can kick it from Saint Augustine
so he can make kicks too. Those things are dangerous. And I'll say
like this, a couple of years ago, Jacksonville went to Cincinnati on Thursday
night. That's the whole you know, they that's the game where Urban Mine
probably should have just got on the airplane and come back, should have just
went back what you're doing. Jaguars were horrible and that game and that's the
year Cincinnati, i believe, went to the Super Bowl and it came down
to a kick at the end of the game. And that's what that's what
I'm afraid of with this, and we have to really really make sure we
guard against it. Yeah, that game, it's sort of turned the goal
line stand late in the second quarter, Jaguar's almost been up twenty one.
Nothing in that game absolutely did It was like, what the heck is going
on? Here? Are you going to wake up? And the Bengals did
and snuck out a win. But I agree with you. I think Jacksonville,
we've talked a lot on Lockdown Bengals about quick starts and the importance of
that. The Jaguars do not want to let the Bengals get confidence that,
oh, this is going to be different. We are going to spawn where
you go three and out to start the game and then you give up points
on that first drive to Jake Browning. You just don't want that. You
don't want him to feel like he's in any sort of rhythm. And so
I think that is important for a team that's trying to find itself in the
post Burrow era. And you're right, there's a lot of time I was
preparing for this just looking at the matchups, and there are some good matchups
that we should get into that involve a couple of guys that you already mentioned
and some that we haven't mentioned yet. And we absolutely will get into those
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segment two, we're gonna talk matchups between Jaguars and Bengals. James, I'll
do the honors to let you go first. Well, you mentioned Trey Hendrickson
and he's got ten and a half sacks this year, Trey Hendrickson. So
that Cam Robinson's put on injured reserve earlier this week, and so let's dive
into that. Who's going to be tasked with stopping Trey Hendrickson, who's obviously
the bengals leading sack artist at this point of the year. Walker Little,
who had been playing left guard, but he is better at left tackle.
A former second round pick in the same we know about twenty twenty one.
Yeah, we talked about him, and well the Bengals did not pick him.
Go ahead, Yeah, but they got Walker Little. They made a
trade at the trade deadline for Ezra Cleveland from Minnesota to play guard, and
it turns out he's a better guard than Walker Little is. And walk a
Little may or may not be a better guard a better tackle than Cam Robinson,
but Walker Little is definitely a better tackle than he is a guard.
So I think it'll be on him. I think it'll be on a little
chipping from the tight ends, and I think they'll be smart to get the
ball out of their hands very, very quickly. Yeah, I think that
that's you don't sound concerned. And usually when a top left tackle goes out
of starting left tackle, it's like, oh, well, it's gonna be
this guy. But and you were. There was no butts, there was
no transitions. It was all Walker Little he's better at tackle, So there
you go. I think that's a huge matchup though, because if this Bengals
team is going to slow down the Jags offense and a big play potential offense.
And the reason I say that isn't just the Jags, it's the Bengals.
The Bengals have given up big plays to every team they've played this year,
it seems like, including the Steelers last week, which they had no
business doing. You have to get the to Trevor Lawrence. You can't let
him go off script and let him move around back there and even when someone's
not opened by the extra second, so he can find Calvin Ridley deep downfield
or find Christian Kirk. And so I think that matchup Trey getting to Trevor
that is huge. And if you can prevent that with Walker little and some
chips from the tight end. You take it all day long. If you're
Jacksonville. Mind, that's a very very good point. Mine is jackuars.
The matchup that they have to watch out is them versus themselves. And I
know that sounds like I'm describing Georgia or Alabama like hockey right now, Yeah
yeah, yeah, yeah yeah right. So obviously the reason I feel that
way is because they have to pay attention to their opponent and not the press
clippings and the lack of respect that they are getting as an eight and three
football team. They went to Houston and won a game against the Texans last
week where Trevor Lawrence had what I thought was his best game as a pro,
and that still wasn't good enough for people to talk about Trevor Lawrence.
They talked about CJ. Stroud, who also had a really really good game.
And I just think the disrespect, which can be a good thing if
harnessed and used the correct way, is it could also preoccupy if you do
it the wrong way, and you could start looking past opponents and you could
start playing to try to impress people instead of going out and being fundamentally sound
and doing the things that you have to do, and then you find yourself
in a dogfight with a team that is used to getting to the AFC Championship
Game at a minimum. Now they don't have their quarterback. Okay, we've
already discussed that, and we understand that they're not the same team. And
I don't believe T Jiggins and Todge boys. Yeah, Tyler boy, are
they going to play? I think T's got a real shot. Tyler will
Tea's got a good shot, though. I think I think he might be
back and trying to impress in front of his former college quarterback. Yeah.
So that's dangerous. That's absolutely dangerous because if you've watched them for the last
few weeks, you haven't prepared for that. You've been preparing for a team
that's gonna try to grind it out and make things easy for their quarterback.
So that's why I say you can't get caught up in yourself too much.
You have to not play to protect or to earn the respect of national media.
And none of those guys matter, man. The only thing that matters
the game is just this simple James is tried and true blocking, tackling,
kicking game that's it. Blocking ta We sometimes make this so hard. It
comes down to blocking, blocking, tackling. The team that does that the
best is gonna win. No boneheaded penalties, Yeah, get them off the
field on third down, don't give them confidence. And so really for me
is Jaguars against themselves. But that doesn't mean that the Bengals are not formidable,
because they are. I think you mentioned the tackling part that's been such
a topic here in Cincinnati as well. Logan Wilson suffered a sprain ankle against
this past week, and so we'll see there against the Steelers. We'll see
if he can go. I think he's treading in the right direction. You
have the extra day, so we'll see. But tackling, they have to
tackle Travis Etn. They have to bring down Evan Ingram. If Pat Fryermuth
had a career high receiving yards this past week against them, I'm sure Jacksonville
is going to see that and say, oh, but we can get Ingram,
who's more athletic than Friar Mose. He's a little smaller, but he's
certainly more athletic. We can get him in space and throw him those seam
routes and but we can try to get deep balls to Calvin Ridley and Christian
Kirk. Because it worked, Deontay Johnson got open downfield and Fryar Moo's got
opened downfield. George Pickens had an explosive play, and I'm just looking back
at last week. That's the other aspect here, this defense and the reason
I'm harping on the defense so much. I have lower expectations for the offense.
They don't have Joe Burrow and what We've spent a lot of time this
week on Lockdown Bengals, so if you're looking for that, you go to
it. We talked a lot about the offense and how they can change things
and how they can be a little bit better. But if you're going to
win in Jacksonville, you have to make sure that this Jags offense doesn't score
twenty eight because if they get to twenty eight or they get to thirty,
that's just it's a lot to ask the offense to go out and do.
Yeah, so that's the number twenty eight. I was wondering what the threshold
was. I mean, you want to keep them under twenty, and they
did that last week, but they got crushed on time of possession and still
gave up a ton of yards over four hundred yards. And the Steelers just
they're not like that. The Jags, they do put out four hundred yard
games, and so how bad could it be if they don't come ready to
play? And I think they will because this is kind of the season on
the line game where if you win your six and six, you can lick
your wounds a little bit and see if you can make a run. And
if you lose, we've lost four straight, you're five and seven and you're
no longer in the hunt. As they say when they show the playoff picture
in the AFC, it's gonna be huge. You know. I got a
feeling that if Jack, if the Jaguars are able to put it all together
and walk past them, nobody's gonna give them credit because the first thing they're
gonna say, as well they were without Joe Burrow. Good news for Bengals
fans. I don't know if y'all know this. Auars played better on the
road than they have at home. They won eight straight games on the road.
That is unheard of in the National Football League. Eight straight they won.
So they've struggled to really be consistent at home. They played a pretty
clean game last week that got hammered three weeks ago by the forty nine ers
at home, so I think that was a moment where they actually learned the
lesson. They actually learned the lesson. So we're gonna do keys the victory.
We glossed over it a little bit, Keys the victory in predictions.
Of course, I'm going to pick the Jaguarsh to win, and I'll let
James surprise you with who he is going to test. Of course, Bengals
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Segment three of the Crossover Edition Locked On Bengals Locked On Jaguars. It's
now time to go the Keys to victory. I think Trevor Lawrence needs to
have a good showing on national TV. Make sure that he's on point,
the leadership is intact and they put up some points. They don't turn the
ball over, and as with any young team, make sure bad plays don't
turn into a bad series. You have to have a short memory get over
it. I think there'll be a lot of pressure. In the past,
Trevor's arm has been very lively at the beginning of games because he's so excited.
He's kind of cut that back a little bit, but he does have
more interceptions this year than he had last year, and he has to continue
to work on trimming that down. And I do know that the Bengals have
some very very talented players in the secondary that could absolutely come up with the
ball. So it's all on Trevor Lawrence. We have to take advantage of
the advantage that we have and you guys don't have Joe Burrow. Trevor Lawrence
has to be the big guy in the room, the alpha in the room,
and play well on a night when the Bengals are not playing with their
star. Yeah, my Keys to victory. Let's start with the offense.
I've talked a lot about the defense on this show, but like I said,
the offense has been the theme. Jake Browning has to be better and
the coaching staff has to put him in a better position as well, and
so I'm expecting more under center this week. I think that a lean on
the run a little bit more. They're not a run first team ladies and
gentlemen, so guess what they're going to throw out more than they run it.
That's who they are, that's who they're going to be moving forward.
That doesn't mean they can't run it more. Whether it's Joe Mixon Chase Brown,
I think both guys could see touches on Monday Night. Getting efficient efficiency
out of the run game will be important, But Jake Browning just has to
be better. He left some plays on the field, not just the turnover.
You look at his final numbers against the Steelers, they look really good.
I mean nineteen of twenty six, two seventeen, a touchdown and a
pick. You take that, but it's got to look better. I'm fine
with those final numbers, but it's got to look better. The eye test
didn't match the numbers, and so I think that's the start. Jake Browning
has to play better. You got to get this ground game going a bit.
If you get t Higgins back Jamar chasing t Higgins, that's your advantage.
There's no combo like that. And so lean on those guys. You're
going to be a pass first team. Lean on those guys, especially if
he isn't limited at all. Jamar had six targets last week. That has
to be at least at least ten, But I would say doubled against the
Jaguars. And then on defense a couple of things that you hit on there.
You have to make sure or Trevor Lawrence does turn the ball over and
does commit a fraudulent interception or two early that keeps you in the game,
that gives you some confidence, that gives you some momentum, and takes the
crowd out of the game. So winning that turnover battle is huge, limiting
the big plays, not allowing deep balls or explosives. And part of this
has been a tackling issue where like Noah Brown a few weeks ago for the
Texans, catches a pass and breaks like four tackles because they're swiping out the
ball, swiping at the ball. I get the turnover thirst. There's also
a balance there, and so they need to have that balance, make the
tackles when they're there, not give up huge explosives. They might have Cam
Taylor britt back this week. DJ Turner the second the rookie has played well
in the secondary. The matchup I'm looking at and I didn't talk about it
much last segment, Dax Hill versus even Ingram. I think that could be
one that is big. So there are a lot of keys to victory,
and a lot of things have to happen around the quarterback. Now, before
it was all right, Joe you can you can go hide a bunch of
these flaws if they happen. Now it's the other way. All of these
guys have to step up around Jake Browning for the Bengals to get a victory.
And heck, I might as well give my prediction. Now. Obviously
it's early with the Monday game, and we do these crossovers earlier in the
week, and that they make it tough. I think the Bengals are going
to be competitive. I think it's hard for me to pick against a team
that is where the Bengals expected to be this year, vying for the top
seed in the AFC, vuying for a division title. But I do think
it's going to be competitive. I don't think it's going to be a blowout.
I don't think the Jags are going to run them out of the building.
There will be a moment much like last week, the Bengals had a
seven to three lead. They were in field goal range and Jake Browning throws
an interception and the Steelers went down, took the lead and never gave it
up. In that moment that interception, Instantly everyone's like, yep, that's
the moment that stinks that might be the game. I think there will be
a moment like that, and I'm not necessarily saying it's an interception, but
there's a moment like that where we're like, man, they fight hard,
but that's the moment. And I don't know what it'll be, but I'll
take the Jags in a close one twenty three seventeen. They don't get to
that twenty eight, but the Bengals don't get to twenty and the Jags went
on Monday Night football, Bro, I'm gonna show you. I'm gonna show
you how wired in we are together. I was just going to tell you
that the score is going to be twenty three seventeen with the Bengals with the
ball trying to go down and win it. See and watch this, and
they have that moment and then the Jaguars run the clock out, kick a
field goal and make it twenty six to seventeen. So that's my score,
twenty six. I knew man, we would join at the hip for a
reason. Bro. Look, we almost thinking just to like, it's wild,
it's crazy. And I'm sitting there like, did this dude just say
twenty three seventeen And I'm sitting here thinking that that's what the score is going
to be until something happens a moment and then the Jaguars end up kicking a
field goal to seal it. Yeah, that's what That's what I believe.
So if that happens, though, that is a good competitive game. But
it's still a win for Jacksonville and it gets them nine to three and they
remain tied with a bunch of teams at that top with only three losses.
I got a question for you. Have you guys missed Jesse Bates and have
people stopped talking about your offensive line. Has the offensive line played better to
the point where folks stop talking about it? What are you trying to do
at the end of the show, You're just trying to poke. We already
talked about how Joe burrows at you just trying to poke these his wrist though
he get hurt running for his life like he did on that video you sent
me. I agree, but other fans don't that way. You know,
I think a lot of fans are still pissed at the offensive line. No,
I the offensive line that they're not. They haven't been good run blockers
this year. They've been solid pass blockers now at times, is it ugly?
Yeah, when you throw it and you drop back forty five times fifty
times, that's that's part of it life in the NFL when you're doing that,
especially against these elite pass rushers. But a lot of people think I've
been too soft on the offensive line. That's okay, that said Jesse Bates.
Oh man, Yeah, they missed they missed that. Man. They
missed that man a lot that picked six last week. You know, Jesse
Bates is like, uh, you know, I had I wanted Jesse Bates
real, real bad a couple of years ago when he was gonna hit hit
free agency. But from the Jaguar side things the talking points that people talked
about other than Trevor Lawrence, which I think is absolutely bogus that they keep
wondering if he is living up the stuff. Trayvon Walker, you're starting to
hear less. And let's talk about eight huncheson and that's because he has more
sacks. He has four and a half sacks through eleven games. You only
had three and a half last year. But folks are starting to see his
work on film. And it's also led Josh Allen to be sitting there eleven
and a half sacks this year and be in the running for Defensive Player of
the Year. So he's playing a lot better. He's a bully, and
even the fans in Jacksonville have stopped looking at the stats of sacks and started
to realize his importance on this team. So he's a game wrecker man,
And uh, that's something that we need to pay atten. Something else everyone
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man, but you gotta get ready for it now. I mean, you
don't eat all that right now. You sit there working out and all of
that. You don't be eating all that stuff. You know. I'm talking
about oxtails and maybe some lineup bees and corn bread. I'll put it on
you may you'll go home. Need to buy a bigger shirt. You hang
around with me for two days resident fat boy stuff. You know what I'm
saying, Hey man, No, that ox tail you know what that does.
That's fuel, that's lifting fuel. I can already feel you always gotta
bring it. You gotta bring it back to working out. I'm just thinking,
Yeah, the thing that I don't do, you got to bring it
right back to working out. I'm trying to get your fat and you're saying
that's just protein. So I just if an NFL team ever needs a five
to nine, pretty in shape guy just to come in, I might be
able to sign to the practice squad. That's all. Yeah, you five
eight, But that's all right. We ain't gonna oh, no way,
no let you. I'll let you go ahead, I'll let you go lie.
Yeah, I'll let you. I'll let you lie here on TV.
And we we ain't gonna worry about it. Man, But that big,
said Bingles fans. Jaguar fans enjoyed the game this weekend for James Repeene and
Tony Wiggins. Y'all take care of each other. Five eight you five eight.
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