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Welcome to I on the Ball here
on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve

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Rivera, He's Jagan Zalez. We
got our guy Ryan with us today working

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the board. Big day to day. What a weekend it was, Oh

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man hes and lows heis and Low's
you know, good news, bad news,

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Yes, terrible news on a couple
of fronts. Yeah, crazy crazy

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Weekend's let's start with the good news
because we can transition into other things.

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The good news is the men's baseball
team right continue to find some magic.

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They're just you saw three four games. I watched them all no, no

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live, yeah four for you.
I went three and one by the way,

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just so you know, well they
overcame the jinks. I watched what

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I saw on TV. Uh disappointed
that I didn't go see any but who

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knows, maybe the weekend. But
they continue to find ways and sometimes that's

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magic that happens during the year.
Well, you know, yes, and

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and that's what you know, that's
what good teams do. Special teams do

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that. You know. There their
walk off against against Oregon State, then

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the walk off against against USC on
Saturday night to win to win the tournament.

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You know, that's just you know, when when you have a team

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that is meant to be doing certain
things, those are the things that happen,

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right, No, no question.
The number one thing they needed to

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do on Saturday was get their starter
out and they eventually and then they rocked

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the rest of the way, you
know, file and found a way.

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So so there's that they played this
weekend. Uh here, which is a

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great thing. You're not gonna be
able to go, are you not out?

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No, I'm headed out of town
tomorrow. I'm gonna try to get

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out there. I think you were
thinking about going, right Ryan, Yeah,

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so that should be good. Uh. And then the women the softball

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team, I got eliminated while we
were they got to legend. Yeah,

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it was not even close. In
fact, Vick, who I hope calls

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later not now. Uh, he
was disappointed in how they played. And

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sometimes Jay and I always believe this, and he'll let him say what he's

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said to me, teams, you
find you run into a team that's better

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than you. It was very simple
and much better than you. It was

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very simple, or Oklahoma State was
a lot better. Arizona did not have

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the pitching, uh to to to
stay with him, which has been an

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issue all year long. We knew
going in the pitching was. I mean,

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Oklahoma State put up eighteen runs in
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out Arizona. In the first one, Arizona got four, four runs.

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You know, it seemed to well, you knew going in that they were

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gonna have to piece it together,
right, you know, I was looking

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when I was listening to uh,
watching, watching, I think it was

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the first game, and uh the
announcers made the made the comment that Arizona

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had the worst pitching staff left in
the tournament. Of the sixteen teams left,

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Arizona had the worst. Is a
bad word. They just you know,

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they just get it. You know, they did. They had the

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they just didn't have the pitching staff, and so it was gonna take some

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magic for them to go any further, which means a couple of things.

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Jay. They got that far with
that pitching staff, which is the good

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news, which is great news,
right, because who would have thought that

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they would get that far already?
Right, get through the Arkansas. But

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the bad news is that was their
pitching staff and that's and sometimes that happens.

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You know, they had some injuries
and that's that's what happens. Sometimes

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Caleb Love and the rest of the
guys can shoot straight and they get to

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beat right, it happens. But
you know, watching Oklahoma State, I

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think Arizona could have played Oklahoma State
ten times and would have lost eight or

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nine, eight or nine times,
yeah, without question. I mean,

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and who wants to say that's it's
uh uh, it's a bad thing.

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They get to that point and they
did well what you rated them eight point

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nine? Now I got them back
to an eight point nine, which like

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athletic with a point four. Well, when when you think about what the

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baseball team did, right, they
were picked finished ninth, they won the

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conference, and in the way they
won it, they beat Oregon State,

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who's just you know, ranked higher, you know, theoretically a better team

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than Arizona, and then to come
then to come and win the tournament as

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well. Yeah, you know,
if they get to the College World Series,

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you bump it up over ten over
nine. Yeah, okay, so

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we'll see what happens there. Uh. And those are the two biggest things

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connected to Arizona here locally. And
then, uh, we lost a friend

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of ours, right, a friend
of many. It's funny. It's funny

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that, uh, he was polarizing. I don't know if you read my

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story I posted ten years ago,
and then I posted again yesterday, how

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polarizing he was. I thought he
was great going because he's the dad of

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Luke, and Luke is a fantastic
guy played here, obviously a big fan

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favorite. But he was polarizing,
and all of a sudden, everybody,

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everybody, everybody loves it. Doesn't
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he upset you on the TV or
not TV. Everybody was connected looking all

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the photos. Everybody had a photo
with him. Yeah, exactly, everybody

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exactly. You don't hate you,
Bill, do you have time can be?

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You had yours? Mine? Uh, everybody, my son has one,

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my you know, my god son
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everybody's got one, you know.
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thing, you know, I told
the story about, you know, the

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those two China games that I worked
that the packed well, played up up

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in Shanghai. You know, I
had breakfast with him, you know a

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couple of times and just he just
sit down and we would chat. Well

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he did most of the chatting,
but you know, but you know,

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he would just sit down with anybody, right and have and have breakfast or

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lunch or lunch or whatever. Or
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and sit down with him. And
yeah, everybody's got them. Didn't mind,

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didn't mind you sitting down with him, or you know, if he

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was hurried, you eat and make
sure that you knew that he was hurried.

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But I always had time and always
had had some funny stories. They

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were a little long, but they
were funny. Yeah, at his antics

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where mostly show did you watch?
So? I watched the thirty thirty seven?

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Gone to see it? I saw
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second time last day, four hours. It's uh, it was I would

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see the third time. It's just
so damn good. He's such a good

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dude, miss misidentified or misunderstood by
so many people. I would watch the

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third It's fantastic. Yeah, Well, say what you want about whether or

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not you would want to listen to
him, do a basketball game. One

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hundred percent of the people out there
say he was a good guy, without

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questions, right, without question So
whether you liked listening to him to a

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game or not, you had to
admire the kind of a person that he

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was and that that he would that
he would take time for anybody. You

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know, and everybody's got their stories. Uh, you know, Jay Bill

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has told his story today. Dan
Patrick was Dan Patrick was having a really

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tough time with it, you know, because he I mean, he was

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just like, yeah, he said
a couple of times. You know.

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I have to keep thinking that Bill
would be pissed at me if I was

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sitting up here, you know,
crying and emotional and all that stuff,

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and I thought, you know,
everybody felt like they had that connection with

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you. I guess it's what I'm
saying, even if you just met him

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for a little more, right,
because oh I met him at this place.

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Someone sent me a note last night
saying that I remember meeting him with

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you, and that says everybody knew
a place time place. We were at

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the at the MGM Grand during you
know, during packed off tournament, and

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I was walking with my son and
we were headed we were headed for I

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think we're headed for the food court. And Bill was walking back the other

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way and my son just stopped him, said, Hey, can I get

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a picture? He stopped, smile, gave a picture, shook his hand,

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put his arm around him, and
then went about his business. I

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mean, just that's darn enough people
like that. It's funny because you know

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people, we all have people who
have passed, uh, and he passed

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unfortunately because of cancer. But what
you think is, I don't know anybody

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anybody who has had a bad word
for him. Uh, And wouldn't if

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you passed today or tomorrow or whenever, how many people would say it would

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would be Well, he was a
good guy, Bud. You know,

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he was a good guy. But
you know what I'm saying, Yeah,

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how many people are gonna say a
raven reviews from everybody, from everybody,

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from everybody, you know, and
like I said, everybody thought they were

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his friend, right, you know? Justin Spears posted a picture Matt Ansor

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from the you A. The communications
office has posted a couple of pictures of

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Nate Weakers, who you know,
the basketball guy. Everybody's got their you

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know, their time with him.
You know that the picture that I posted,

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well, he photo bombed us.
Somebody's taking a picture of us at

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the at the press table at the
PACTFF tournament, and he photo bombed us.

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And you know, just you know, and and and you know what.

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We're trying to get our we're trying
to get our our clips up from

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our our last interview with him.
There were I think we're having some technical

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problems with it. We do.
Oh, they're they're okay, they're in

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so so. Well, it's seven
minutes, we got about six minutes.

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We let's let's do it after after
after the first because we got a special

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guest coming up. Yea, yeah, of course we have a show to

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do. We do have a show
to do. Well. One more thing

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before he got off this, because
there was another very uh, you know,

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very tragic thing that happened over the
weekend. There was a golfer PGA

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Tour, golfer Grayson Miller who who
uh was in the turn. He was

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in the tournament. It was the
uh the Charles Schwab tournament played on Thursday,

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played on Friday. In the middle
of his round on Friday, he

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quit the round, said he didn't
feel good. He left the golf course

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and then in the next twenty four
hours you found out that he had committed

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suicide. And you just got a
thirty year old guy. First of all,

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the word came out that he had
passed away, and he thought,

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God, he got he got sick. What did he you know, what

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did he pass away from? And
then then the family, the family announced

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that he had actually taken his own
life. He had had some alcohol and

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drug issues in the past, but
there was it wasn't any indication that any

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of that led to anything. He
had just preshed anxiety. And here's a

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guy, pro golfer, he had
actually won a couple of tournaments. He

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wasn't just you know, a guy
out there trying to, you know,

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make his way. I mean,
he was a good, solid PGA tour

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golfer and uh and and he took
his own life and you just go,

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yeah, you know what what goes
You know, you can't you can't fathom

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it. You know, any when
anybody takes your life, you think,

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you know, how bad? How
bad is it? And how could you

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have helped that? Especially for a
pro golfer who is living what you and

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I would think would be living their
lives in a dream world. Yeah,

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yeah, no, one hundred percent. And you know, and and uh,

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you know, to think about but
to think about that Steve that he

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was playing. He was playing,
he was in he was in his round,

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and in the middle of his round
he decided, I'm gonna I'm gonna

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go do this and then he went
and did it. And you go,

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man, what uh the kind of
despair that somebody has to has to be

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going through? Well for that time. One of the big issues today is

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mental health and trying to get that
not fixed fixed, of course, but

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trying to get it corralled and makes
it, making it better for people who

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suffer from it. Yeah. No, In fact, you Ryan making that

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coming in Ryan, Uh And I
said, yeah, well you're gonna mention

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that early, so you know,
you just uh, you just go oh

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man. Right, So we're gonna
talk more about about mister Walton. Bill

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obviously in the second hour, I
got a good buddy of mine and God

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tell me, Bryce Miller worked with
him at you say Today and and get

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and all that he did. You
read his column, I'm gonna read it

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fantastic. Call him about Bill.
He's in San Diego. He's a native

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of San Diego. Bill is obviously
and wrote a waxing poetic very fantastic for

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call him about him. So we'll
talk about that and just kind of what

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he meant to San Diego, the
Game Everything Conference, the NBA did you

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you know he was a bright dude, right? I think that was that

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bright dude. And I think that
not pissed off people when he did basketball

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games because he was well read.
You don't want the reasons why he was.

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You know why he was so well
read, just a guess his mom

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was librarian. You know, his
mom was librarian, and and he would

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read books all the time because he'd
say, she'd say, check out a

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book, take it home, read
it, took it out. And he

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was a shy dude. He was
just he happened to be. How can

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I say this at Stokes and Stokes
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He didn't really like playing basketball,
but he did because he was Bil was

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the same kind of way. He
was a big dude, but he wanted

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to play basketball and wanted to win. But he was a geek to make

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sure, and so he read a
lot. He he loved being around people,

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but he but he had a hard
time communicating because he was a stutter.

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Wow, just you gotta you got, I gotta go watch. I'm

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gonna watch. I'm gonna watch it
in down in Rocky. You got it's

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four hours and you won't say,
God, this is getting old. No,

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four hours. I'll watch it for
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missed that part. I missed that
part. Yeah all right. Well,

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the special guess we do have coming
up is Terry Francona. We wanted to

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get his his uh, just his
take. You know, he was he

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was there for the first first three
years six pack baseball, when Arizona got

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into the uh into the PAC ten
uh won an Astro Champ chip in nineteen

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eighty. Uh. Most people that
are around now know him as being the

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manager of the Red Sox and the
Indians won a couple of World Series with

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the Red Sox, broke that horrible, uh historic streak that the Red Sox

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went through without winning the World Series, and he was the manager who won

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it. I think he's headed for
the Hall of Fame. Yeah, yeah,

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uh but uh we we also wanted
to talk to him about his time

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here at Arizona in the early days
of the PAC twelve and what this means

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to him. You know, everybody's
you know Roxy Bernstein, uh Wes Clements,

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who was who was calling the game
the baseball games with with Roxy.

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You know, everybody had their their
their take on what this the end of

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the PAC twelve you know, means
to them. And and so we'll get

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to we'll see what what Terry Francone
has to say. He's been a guests

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for the show a number of times. Yes, and he has time for

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us. Who yeh us, Okay, cool, let's go get him.

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All right, So let's go and
take our break. We're going to come

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Breaking down all the ex'es at Oh, it's Steve Rivera and Jagen SALVIAX.

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This is I on the Ball on
Fox Sports fourteenth. They Hey,

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welcome back to win in the ball
hero Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve

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Rivera. He's Jigginsauce. Now on
the pole, we have Terry Francona.

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There is gonna be small all American. If I give you all these titles,

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they would take all the time we
have. Terry. How are you?

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I'm good, guys. How you
doing. We're doing well. I

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guess it's a good time to be
a un baseball fan. I think it's

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a great time, although I don't
think there's really ever been a bad time.

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Well you know, uh, I
mean this team has done some magical

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stuff with the walkoff for you know, to win the conference championship and then

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the tournament championship and all that kind
of stuff. Just from from where you

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said as a guy who played,
you know, for Arizona. I know

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it was quite a long time ago, but you did and you won ton

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as a championship with them. You
know, when you follow Arizona baseball,

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I mean, how much does it
mean to you? And are you on

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the edge of your seat watching this
team. You know, I went to

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the first couple of games of the
Oregon State Series and you know, those

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first two games, you know,
they got beat around a little bit,

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and then that third game seemed kind
of apropos. I mean, they've been

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coming back all year and to come
back like like that in that situation and

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then in the Pac twelve tournament.
You know what, guys, sometimes you

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have years like that and it's pretty
special and you try to take advantage of

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it. Yeah, we were talking
about that before you got on the show,

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where teams find some kind of magic, they find some kind of elixir

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or whatever. Things happen and you
move. Look at Mississippi two years ago,

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nobody thought they'd get in. They
get in, they win, Arizona

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with under Andy Lopez, right,
goes on that crazy ride because they were

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just playing so well. Baseball's like
that, right, coach, It's very

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much like that momentum. Certainly pitching
and Arizon. I'm so impressed with what

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they've done with their pitching. You
know, Kevin Vance came in and a

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guy from Boston College, and they've
really turned their pitching around. They don't

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walk people, and in today's game, make them or earn it, and

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they're doing that really well. When
you think about think back to your nineteen

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eighty national championship team, because when
we when we talk about this team,

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we will we'll talk about the pitching, the three starting pitchers who could be

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the number one starter at a lot
of different places. So when you think

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back to your nineteen eighty team that
won it all, what was the main

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thing that that team had that you
know, led to a championship. I

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think the best thing we had was
a ton of balance. I mean we

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had we had speed. We had
you know, Johnny Moses and Dwight Taylor.

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We had power with Wes Clements,
with Clark christ who was a shortstop

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that hit three nine, the Scott
Stanley who was as steady as as you

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could be. We just had a
and then a pitching. You know,

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It's like Ed Vossberg and Craig Lefferts
and I don't want to leave Jeff Morris.

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And then we had Casey Candell who
was like you know, everybody,

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the energy bunny. You know,
It's like it was just it was just,

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you know, and it wasn't easy
that year. Like there was a

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lot of times during that year.
I think coach Kendall wanted to ring it

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ring our next but then we got
on that role and we were pretty good.

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Yeah it's that role, right,
Yeah, well that's the role.

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Yeah. You got to win a
bunch of games in a row to win

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that, and you did so.
So Telly, you go to a lot

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of basketball games. You're very visible
on the sidelines. Are you party just

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as big a baseball fan and it's
not bigger? Right? Well, I

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certainly love baseball. I try to
kind of be a little more low key

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maybe at the baseball games, just
because of my history. I don't want

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to ever be you know, they
deserve this was their time. But I've

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probably gone to six or seven games
this year and when I'm in town,

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and I'm certainly going to go to
the regional this weekend. So we have

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athletes like you, guys, former
athletes. How do you watch the game?

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What do you mean by that?
You watch it as a manager,

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as a player, a fan?
You know what I get? Okay,

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that's a good question. I don't
think you can ever manage a game from

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the stands or the press box or
and I know people probably laugh at that,

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but when you're in the dugout,
you're in the flow of the game.

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You have you have information that nobody
else has. You know who's pitching,

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who's available, who's not, who's
hurt, who's nicked up? I

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mean, and you And the other
thing is you just get in the flow.

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And I when I was sick in
Cleveland, I'd go sit upstairs with

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my bosses sometimes and they'd ask me
questions and I'd be like, guys,

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I can't manage game from up here
because I just I just don't have the

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information I want, and I just
I just feel really strongly about that.

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Yeah, so it's more of a
fan you watch it now, Yeah,

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it's just for enjoyment. Yeah,
I met you. That's good because you

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don't have to worry about stuff,
right, you know who the hit and

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run, who the pinch hit.
It's it's really nice not having to worry

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about things that go haywire. Now. I did go out the other day

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when they played Oregon State, and
I wanted to watch the kids Bizano because

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you know, Cleveland has the number
one pick next year, so I wanted

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to kind of get my eyes on
him a little bit just for organization.

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And he was impressive. So it's
going to be interesting to see what happened.

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Yeah. So, so you know, it was the This was the

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end of the PAC twelve as as
we know it. I mean, there

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may be some some form of it
down the road. But you know,

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both Roxy Bernstein, the play by
play guy, and Wes Clements, who

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was your teammate you both on on
Friday and Saturday, had kind of send

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offs, you know, for the
PAC twelve, and you know, just

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talked about the history and you were
a part of that history. You came

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in in the first years of what
became known as the six Pack. That

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the three years that you were here
in Arizona. Think about that right now

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in terms of what the PAC twelve
in baseball has been and was, both

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during your time as a player and
then since then as a as a fan.

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Yeah, there certainly are a lot
of changes that have happened. I

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mean, I think, in my
opinion, the six Pack was the best

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baseball in the country at the time. Now I know the SEC has just

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gone bananas and how good they are
and everything. I thought. Wes and

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Roxy both did a really good job. It was heartfelt and you could tell

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it's hard. I mean, things
are changing. It doesn't mean you always

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have to love it, you know. I mean there's so much history the

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PAC twelve. I mean all the
national championships, and I'm not just talking

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about the sports, but you know, the Olympic sports where I think the

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00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:07.000
PAC twelve has really excelled. And
yeah, it's okay to say you're going

411
00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:11.720
to miss it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we are going to miss

412
00:27:11.720 --> 00:27:17.160
it. I think outside of your
title in eighty, can you maybe reflect

413
00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:19.559
on a couple of great moments.
You don't have to be necessarily in them

414
00:27:19.599 --> 00:27:23.359
unless you want to be, but
some great moments during those times who were

415
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kind of talking to people that can
kind of give us some great memories of

416
00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:30.119
the PAC ten. PAC twelve.
Oh my goodness, I thought, guys,

417
00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:33.119
I thought my freshman year, I
thought that was our best team.

418
00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:40.759
And USC beat us in the regional
and they were loaded, but I mean

419
00:27:40.759 --> 00:27:45.319
we had Craig Chamberlain and Dave Crutcher
and Bobby Chalk. We were loaded.

420
00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:49.279
We just again I think they'd beat
us like three to two and two to

421
00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:55.000
one and they went onto the World
Series. So I mean it was just

422
00:27:55.200 --> 00:27:57.559
really good baseball, and it was
year after year after year. I mean

423
00:27:57.880 --> 00:28:02.359
playing in Arizona State. Man,
I remember the first time going up to

424
00:28:02.400 --> 00:28:04.839
Arizona State thinking, oh, you
know, what did I get myself into?

425
00:28:06.079 --> 00:28:10.240
Right? It just it was such
a high caliber of baseball was so

426
00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:14.480
good. Yeah, and it was, and I think I think at that

427
00:28:14.599 --> 00:28:18.279
time the six Pack was widely recognized
as you know, as the best conference

428
00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:22.400
with you know, USC, Arizona
and ASU and all the national championships they

429
00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:25.640
won, and Stanford came along and
won a couple. Uh that that was

430
00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:27.920
some crazy and just going to those
games, and it didn't matter which of

431
00:28:27.960 --> 00:28:32.559
the which of the other five teams
were here, it was always a big

432
00:28:32.599 --> 00:28:37.160
deal. It seemed like, you
know, especially in Tucson and col was

433
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really good, right, I mean
we you know, everybody I think forgets.

434
00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:44.039
But in the in the in Omaha, I think we beat Cal twelve

435
00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:48.440
to eleven in a crazy game and
they had kind of had their away with

436
00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:52.960
us during the during the season,
so it was it was it was really

437
00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:57.240
good competitive baseball. I'm assuming you're
gonna probably be there this weekend unless we've

438
00:28:57.240 --> 00:29:03.279
got to call security and have have
a you no, no need for security,

439
00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:07.839
because I'll definitely be out there part
of the fun of not working is

440
00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:11.519
being able to have a hot dog
and a beer and watch the game and

441
00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:15.559
enjoy it. Yeah, roote like
crazy. But this was pretty cool.

442
00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:18.720
It's pretty cool for Tucson. It's
really cool for the U of A.

443
00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:22.920
I mean, I can't think of
a better sendoff to the Pac twelve than

444
00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:26.839
to see them go all the way. And this is a first for you,

445
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:30.720
right because you'd be working in your
real world. Oh man, this

446
00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:33.839
was the first time in forty four
years that you know, I'm able to

447
00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:37.480
do something like this, and I
kind of planned to take advantage of it.

448
00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:41.039
Nice. So what do you think
of the job that the Chip Hale

449
00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:44.319
has done, because you know he's
i mean even even earlier this year,

450
00:29:44.400 --> 00:29:47.000
you know, I mean here he's
one of these two, these two championships.

451
00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:48.720
Earlier this year, there were fans
who were, you know, shaking

452
00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:52.160
their heads, wondering is he the
right guy and stuff like that. I

453
00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:55.960
don't know how well you know Chip. I'm sure you ran into him,

454
00:29:56.119 --> 00:29:59.279
you know, in the at the
at the major league level. But just

455
00:29:59.319 --> 00:30:02.519
the job he's been able to do, especially after the tough start that they

456
00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:04.839
had, Yeah, I know,
Chip really well known him for a long

457
00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:10.079
time, and I think he's done
an extremely good job. And it's not

458
00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:15.319
just Chip, it's just coaches.
I think what people lose sight of sometimes

459
00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:19.319
is it doesn't mean you're not going
to have struggles, but when you do

460
00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:23.599
have struggles, where do you go? And that's to me what good coaching

461
00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:27.480
is and what you guys were just
alluding to. Yeah, they were having

462
00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:30.480
a tough time. I mean they
went down to Texas. I think they

463
00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:34.279
struck out nineteen times, two games
in a row. You know, things

464
00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:40.240
weren't looking real great. And then
whatever MESSI he had and the way he

465
00:30:40.359 --> 00:30:44.839
delivered it resonated and look where they've
gone. Yeah, yeah, no question,

466
00:30:45.039 --> 00:30:48.839
no doubt, no doubt. When
you were in that turn again,

467
00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:52.839
going back to the tournament that you
won, the national championship, being in

468
00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:56.799
the tournament, just getting in,
first of all, I don't know how

469
00:30:56.799 --> 00:30:59.400
big a deal it was if it
was a regular thing to you guys.

470
00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:02.920
You mentioned the same in the eight
team that was that was or seventy nineteen.

471
00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:07.480
That was so good. When you're
going in what what's on the mind

472
00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:11.400
of a player? You know,
because you guys are young at that time

473
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:15.400
and now you're in this tournament,
it's a big deal. The fans are

474
00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:18.559
behind you, you know. In
your case, Arizona had won a national

475
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:22.599
championship just a few years before in
seventy six. What's going through your head

476
00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:27.039
as you're getting ready to play in
the in the NCAA tournament in seventy nine,

477
00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:30.079
I think we were kind of just
happy to be there, and when

478
00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:33.519
we got there, we got beat
around pretty good and had a quick exit.

479
00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:37.000
In eighty, you know, we
went there and we lost to Saint

480
00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:41.200
John's in the first game, and
I think we were all mad because I

481
00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:45.319
think we felt like, hey,
this is our time. And fortunately we

482
00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:48.519
kind of fought our way back through
the loser's bracket because that's not an easy

483
00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:52.559
thing to do. But our mindset
was definitely different that year because we felt

484
00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:56.519
like we could win that thing.
Yeah, without without question, we have

485
00:31:56.519 --> 00:32:00.799
a just about three minutes enough with
you, coach, let me ask you,

486
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:05.960
what do you think about today's deal
with Ni l oh Man. I'm

487
00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:12.240
probably sounding old, you know,
I think it's great where because I know

488
00:32:12.279 --> 00:32:15.839
when I was in college there were
times where I wanted to go to dinner

489
00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:19.480
or something and I couldn't do it, and and you know, just didn't

490
00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:23.319
have any money, but for them, so for kids to have money to

491
00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:27.640
be able to do I think it's
great. Now, I think it's probably

492
00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:31.240
gotten a little out of hand,
and I think everybody would probably agree with

493
00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:37.839
that. But I think the NCAA
kind of kind of fought so long that

494
00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:42.880
now this is what's happened, and
now they got their hands full. And

495
00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:46.799
I don't know where it's going to
go, but it's almost like free agency

496
00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:53.640
for college kids. And I don't
know if that's the healthiest thing for for

497
00:32:53.640 --> 00:32:59.279
for the for the college sports.
But I'm also glad I'm not in charge

498
00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:02.119
because I don't about how they're going
to fix it. Right, you're no

499
00:33:02.200 --> 00:33:06.599
ideas, no idea, no ideas. Okay, last thing, So this

500
00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:09.880
was your first year off of baseball
for however long? Right? What did

501
00:33:09.920 --> 00:33:12.960
you do this? What did you
do during this season? What have you

502
00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:15.640
been doing? Do you miss it? Well? So far, I've been

503
00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:20.119
golfing like crazy. I wish I
could report that I'm getting better, but

504
00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:22.119
I don't seem to be. But
I'm enjoying the heck out of it.

505
00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:29.319
I found myself actually watching more baseball
because the last couple of years I was

506
00:33:29.359 --> 00:33:31.440
getting kind of worn out, and
I would watch, you know, like

507
00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:36.519
the team we were going to play. And now I find myself like,

508
00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:38.079
I'll turn on the TV and if
a score is four to four in the

509
00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:43.480
eighth inning, I'll watch a game, and you know, I find myself

510
00:33:43.519 --> 00:33:46.000
watching more now than I have in
the last number of years. Did they

511
00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:50.480
at least give you, like a
free major le MLB TV package or anything

512
00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:52.839
like that, or you have to
pay for like the rest of us.

513
00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:58.480
They did, and they did.
Ah, so you miss it? Do

514
00:33:58.519 --> 00:34:02.000
you miss it? You know,
guys, I love it, and I

515
00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:07.680
don't love the game any less just
because I'm not doing it. But I

516
00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:10.599
was ready. I was you know, I think to do the job right,

517
00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:15.400
you got to have a certain amount
of energy, and it was getting

518
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:20.239
harder and harder for me to have
that energy. And I just thought,

519
00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:23.280
Okay, if that's how I feel, it's time to move on. And

520
00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:25.840
it doesn't mean I don't love the
game, because I do. It's all

521
00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:30.159
I've ever done. But I did
think it was time to step aside,

522
00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:34.800
and I thought it through pretty thoroughly. Okay, then I'll ask you,

523
00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:37.639
do you do you see yourself going
back to it? And doing it again.

524
00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:43.920
I got to ask that about an
hour ago. The idea was when

525
00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:47.920
I retired, that I would retire. I don't know that you ever put

526
00:34:47.960 --> 00:34:54.719
a blanket statement, but the idea
was to retire and again at some point

527
00:34:55.119 --> 00:35:00.559
if I missed the game or I
missed certain aspects of the game, well

528
00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:01.800
you know what, then I'll try
to figure it out. But right now

529
00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:07.800
I'm kind of enjoying just not being
as busy as I've always been my whole

530
00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:09.519
life. That's cool, all right, man, Well, and enjoy the

531
00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:15.039
golf and feel free to invite us
sometime. Uh, and we'll we'll go

532
00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:17.400
out there with you. You got
it, guys, A good talking to

533
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:22.679
you, man to be thanks,
Terry, Yeah, no, cool,

534
00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:24.679
cool, He's always good. He's
always good. And I don't know sure

535
00:35:24.679 --> 00:35:29.039
if I was identifying him correctly because
he's a coach. But you don't call

536
00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:31.000
him coach because he's a manager.
Yeah, but he's a coach. Yeah.

537
00:35:31.079 --> 00:35:35.880
You know. Well, when you're
talking to I mean you're in the

538
00:35:35.920 --> 00:35:38.400
doug, you say hey, hey
manager, Hey coach. Right, No,

539
00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:42.119
that's cool. All right, Well, thank thanks to Terry for joining

540
00:35:42.159 --> 00:35:44.360
us. That's awesome. It's always
great. To have him. He's always

541
00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:46.119
he's always a great kids. All
Right, we're gonna take a break and

542
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:50.760
then we're gonna go back into into
uh some you know some of our talk

543
00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:54.800
about Bill Walton. I think we've
got a clip from a past the last

544
00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:58.079
time he was on our show that
we're gonna bring up. It's kind of

545
00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:00.360
a funny story. So we'll we'll
take this break and we'll come back.

546
00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:06.119
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the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen
fifty. I'm Steve, He's Jay.

575
00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:22.000
We got Ryan with us today.
I think we're gonna take a quick look

576
00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:25.280
a quick one of the half of
the clip. Right. So we had

577
00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:29.880
Bill Walton on our show in December
of twenty twenty two. So that was

578
00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:37.119
during the non conference season for the
year that the Dulis Sabellas Umar Bello Show

579
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:45.639
a front Line, Tommy Lloyd's second
year, the Gerald what's in I mean,

580
00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:51.920
Courtney Raimie and the other guy I
can't I can never remember his name,

581
00:38:51.960 --> 00:38:54.079
the other guard, the other transfer
guard. Yeah, okay, anyways,

582
00:38:54.119 --> 00:38:59.280
whatever, So you'll hear the clip
because we're coming out of a break

583
00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:01.280
and we've got Bill on the show, and he had actually was going to

584
00:39:01.360 --> 00:39:05.880
be on the show on the previous
Friday his car broke down and he couldn't

585
00:39:05.880 --> 00:39:08.719
make it. Then we got him
like on Tuesday, so uh, we're

586
00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:12.840
just you know, wanted to talk
to him about Arizona basketball. So here's

587
00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:15.119
here's Are we gonna do both?
Yeah, well we'll do one. They're

588
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:17.480
both seven minute clips. I don't
know if we'll have time for the second

589
00:39:17.480 --> 00:39:20.880
one, so we'll be the other
one. But this is the start of

590
00:39:20.920 --> 00:39:23.039
the interview. Basically, we asked
two questions. Well, and that's kind

591
00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:25.960
of the part. That was the
funny thing that we asked two questions and

592
00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:30.119
we got two really long, long, long answers. So here's here's here's

593
00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:34.719
Bill Walton on our show back in
December of twenty two. They can't hear

594
00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:37.880
me. They're not playing. Stop
playing. So that's all right, we'll

595
00:39:37.960 --> 00:39:40.079
we'll we'll find a way. We'll
find a way here in the second hour,

596
00:39:40.159 --> 00:39:45.480
we'll get ahold of our guy and
we'll see what happens. All right,

597
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:47.000
we'll figure this out, crut.
But that was part of the that

598
00:39:47.039 --> 00:39:50.880
was part of the part. You
asked him two questions and it took fifteen

599
00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:52.679
minutes, all right, because you
know, he was just kind of a

600
00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:58.119
long with a lot of different things. I last saw him in February,

601
00:39:58.119 --> 00:40:00.079
I think it was home before he
did the last game with with Pash and

602
00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:04.840
asked him if ye had he read
my book yet about Luke And he says,

603
00:40:05.039 --> 00:40:07.679
Steve, I'm too busy right now. I'm flying everywhere and I can't

604
00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:10.199
read it again to it. Ironically, I said, you know your son

605
00:40:10.280 --> 00:40:14.000
wrote the forward for me, right, Luke, And he says, yes,

606
00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:15.360
I do know that, Steve.
I'm gonna get to it what I

607
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:20.440
can well again, and that was
that was the funny thing. I'm really

608
00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:22.880
upset that this didn't that this didn't
play. I gotta figure out what's going

609
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:25.079
on here. But uh, you
know, we asked him. All you

610
00:40:25.119 --> 00:40:30.559
said was Bill, how are you
doing? And we got a seven minute,

611
00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:35.199
seven minute answer. Then then you
asked him a question about the big

612
00:40:35.239 --> 00:40:37.320
guys, and then we got another
seven minute and that was it that we

613
00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:42.039
had to go. And so but
again, you know, you know,

614
00:40:42.079 --> 00:40:45.280
going back to it, you know, just a really great guy, uh,

615
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:46.800
somebody who's you know, always fun
to be around. And it's just

616
00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:50.239
too bad. Sure, you know, I mean, you know, when

617
00:40:50.360 --> 00:40:52.320
when he kind of went dark,
I just thought it was all about the

618
00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:54.320
because the PAC pop had broken up. Oh yeah, stuff like that.

619
00:40:54.440 --> 00:40:57.480
Well they had said that at least
the people had talked to you. He

620
00:40:57.480 --> 00:41:02.199
had been ill to that severity.
I did not know. But but Saturday

621
00:41:02.320 --> 00:41:07.360
Friday night, Saturday night, when
Roxy started watching Poetic co the PAC twelve

622
00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:09.559
and he mentioned Bill at the end, right, not just once for the

623
00:41:09.599 --> 00:41:14.880
PAC twelve network and then for the
ESPN network. You're thinking, I wonder

624
00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:16.519
what's going on. That didn't even
enter my mind. I thought I just

625
00:41:16.519 --> 00:41:21.239
thought it was appropriate that he was
because Bill, if you talk about a

626
00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:27.920
personality attached to the PAC twelve network
networks, it was he was the number

627
00:41:27.960 --> 00:41:30.079
one personality. Right. There were
a lot of other guys, Yogi,

628
00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:35.239
Roth, Ashley, Adamson, all
the all the people that came through there

629
00:41:35.280 --> 00:41:38.360
and were part of you know,
football or basketball or whatever. But if

630
00:41:38.360 --> 00:41:43.039
you if you lined him up in
terms of who was the most if you

631
00:41:43.079 --> 00:41:45.320
brought up to say, name me
one person from PAC twelve networks that that

632
00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:50.199
you know it reminds you the most
of it, it would have been it

633
00:41:50.199 --> 00:41:53.320
would be Bill Walton because of the
cinder that he yeah in a runway.

634
00:41:53.320 --> 00:41:57.840
So when when Roxy was doing that. I think it was just appropriate that

635
00:41:58.079 --> 00:42:02.119
because Roxy worked games with you know, with with Walton. I know that

636
00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:07.519
the two China games, remember the
games that Arizona but Stanford, and the

637
00:42:07.119 --> 00:42:10.280
very first one was Stanford and Harvard, and then the next one was I

638
00:42:10.360 --> 00:42:15.599
went it was Washington and I can't
remember, it's been about five six,

639
00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:20.199
but there were the first two.
I was asked to do stats for those

640
00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:22.559
two games. I all the way
to China to go do stats for those

641
00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:27.559
two games. Bill Long called both
of those games with Roxy Burnstein, though

642
00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:29.840
I knew that they had a connection. Yeah. Yeah. One of the

643
00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:31.840
big reasons too that he was here
often more often than not, was he

644
00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:35.079
loved his bike, right, we
all know that. Yeah, and he

645
00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:37.519
rode in el tour, so Eltur
would have a big banquet before the big

646
00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:40.559
ride and he would come and be
part of it. Uh. And that's

647
00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:44.840
when when when I was sitting with
him with somebody else and Luke was there,

648
00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:47.440
I invited Luke to come because Bill
was there and he'd talked wax Poetic

649
00:42:47.480 --> 00:42:51.159
about his bike. Because you saw
the show, I mean, you see

650
00:42:51.159 --> 00:42:53.840
the show, if you see the
documentary, he's always on his bike.

651
00:42:53.960 --> 00:42:59.199
Or a lot on his bike,
uh, to exercise. Yeah, yeah,

652
00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:02.320
so you know, and and that's
sort of his connection with Tucson really,

653
00:43:02.639 --> 00:43:07.360
you know, was the whole biking. Did you have your story today?

654
00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:12.960
No Sports USA A fantastic story about
hav his most, his most,

655
00:43:13.320 --> 00:43:16.559
his last significant win as a college
basketball player was here. I did not

656
00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:20.360
I always I did see that.
I did not see. I didn't see

657
00:43:20.360 --> 00:43:22.639
that. Well, they went to
triple overtime to get to the final four,

658
00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:29.039
right against against who the North Carolina
State. I did not know that.

659
00:43:29.360 --> 00:43:30.920
I didn't have that one. I
didn't have that one because I didn't

660
00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:35.679
realize that that was Walton's last year. I thought he went out as you

661
00:43:35.719 --> 00:43:39.639
know, as having winning lost.
David Thompson, Yeah, they had that

662
00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:44.280
eighty eight game winning streak and all
that stuff. And uh, I didn't

663
00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:47.599
I didn't realize that. And I
remember when when you sell in Loston Carolina

664
00:43:47.639 --> 00:43:51.719
State fourteen. Yeah, when North
Carolina State beat them in the in the

665
00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:53.800
in the final four. It was
a big deal, right because you see,

666
00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:59.039
just didn't lose national championship, but
they had. And in the documentary

667
00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:01.360
from last night, uh, they
kind of kind of explained it away.

668
00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:06.760
Because the guard uh, they were
having kind of internal stuff with with with

669
00:44:06.239 --> 00:44:09.159
uh with Wooden and a player or
two where he went to them. He

670
00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:13.440
went to the guys and said,
it's my understanding guys that you are smoking

671
00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:16.199
marijuana. And Lee, I think
it's Greg Lee, I can't remember his

672
00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:22.000
first name. Lee told him told
him, uh, well yes kind of

673
00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:25.519
you know, yes, reluctantly he
told him the truth, and so he

674
00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:30.719
kind of suspended him and he went
to Bill and Bill says, uh,

675
00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:35.079
after was pausing a while and said, I don't know what you're talking about.

676
00:44:37.159 --> 00:44:38.719
So he didn't get in trouble,
but Lee did, but to be

677
00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:43.599
killing the truth, Yeah, it
just you know, well, there's so

678
00:44:43.599 --> 00:44:46.199
many things that was really fun.
Yeah, because Dan Patrick, who you

679
00:44:46.239 --> 00:44:50.199
know, felt he was very close
to Walt and had him on his show

680
00:44:50.239 --> 00:44:52.800
all the time. And they were
doing their show I guess, I guess

681
00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:58.960
from the Final four or somewhere where
they were outdoors, right, they're doing

682
00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:04.599
the show out of the Past out
doors and there's a siren goes by and

683
00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:08.599
Bill says, Dan Patrick, is
that for you or for me? And

684
00:45:08.639 --> 00:45:10.679
that he could laugh by and then
he went into a little bit of that

685
00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:14.239
like Yeah, I got some trouble
back in the my you know, back

686
00:45:14.280 --> 00:45:16.239
in my dad you know, caused
a few issues, but it was it

687
00:45:16.280 --> 00:45:20.239
was pretty funny. But you know, well they talked about about it because

688
00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:22.199
he was in so much pain.
He says, did you kind of dabble

689
00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:25.199
in it or whatever? He says, uh, yeah, but a lot

690
00:45:25.199 --> 00:45:30.960
of it was for my pain.
After he had his back fused nineteen eighty

691
00:45:31.079 --> 00:45:35.599
something, yeah, or maybe even
after that, maybe in nineteen ninety because

692
00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:38.360
he wanted title in eighty six with
the Bust and Celtics right uh after after

693
00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:42.920
after sitting out for a while.
Yeah, because it's because it was yeah,

694
00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:45.559
because yeah, and the hell the
health issues were. I mean,

695
00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:49.760
god, you just saw him walk
and you knew his pain because you were

696
00:45:49.800 --> 00:45:52.239
you were impressionable at that time.
You were in your teens, guys,

697
00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:55.320
ryeah, teens, twenties, and
that's when you remember stuff. So today

698
00:45:55.360 --> 00:46:00.360
everybody talks about Lebron, and everyone
talks about Mike and Michael in my time

699
00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:04.800
was the best player. Lebron to
me, he is not. But you

700
00:46:04.840 --> 00:46:07.199
see Larry Bird play, you're thinking, holy craft. Just the way they

701
00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:13.639
played basketball, right, They're not
athletic and you can see why or what

702
00:46:13.840 --> 00:46:16.719
you know, whatever you want to
say. But Bill Woton, excuse me,

703
00:46:17.480 --> 00:46:22.239
very very basketball start. He was
and he was underrated. He was

704
00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:27.119
underrated as an athlete and to do
the things that he was able to do.

705
00:46:27.639 --> 00:46:30.360
You know, the twenty two out
of twenty three or twenty one out

706
00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:36.840
of twenty two championship game and I'm
sorry, you're pretty damn athletic. Did

707
00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:38.079
you do this too? And I
didn't know this. I don't know why

708
00:46:38.119 --> 00:46:44.119
I didn't know this. He was
disqualified for four shots because he would have

709
00:46:44.119 --> 00:46:46.639
gone twenty five for twenty six,
four of them did not count. You

710
00:46:46.679 --> 00:46:51.880
know why he don't get it because
he done yeah yeah, five twenty yeah.

711
00:46:51.920 --> 00:46:57.480
His his predecessor at UCLA. Because
he was dunking over everybody, they

712
00:46:57.519 --> 00:47:01.280
created a rule that you couldn't dunk. Was actually not correct. He was

713
00:47:01.320 --> 00:47:05.280
twenty five out of twenty six.
Yeah, yeah, not yet, and

714
00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:07.920
and and and it was really there
was always they you know, they didn't

715
00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:12.880
have they didn't revert to instant replaying. There were a number of times where

716
00:47:12.920 --> 00:47:15.400
he really didn't dunk, but they
called it a dunk and you couldn't do

717
00:47:15.440 --> 00:47:19.440
anything about it, right, right, No, I watched it again,

718
00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:21.519
Like say I saw for the second
time, I'd watch it for a third

719
00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:24.199
time because he does get emotional.
It's hard not to get emotional. Uh.

720
00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:28.679
And he was just a fantastic And
you could see Luke if you if

721
00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:31.000
you paid attention to Luke when he
played here, how Arizon gonna put him

722
00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:36.000
at the top of the key because
he was the best passer and he could

723
00:47:36.039 --> 00:47:37.960
see the floor. That was Bill, Yeah, that was Bill. He

724
00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:42.880
could get the ball to Res or
Lauren Woods or Richard or whatever because he

725
00:47:42.920 --> 00:47:45.559
saw the court. Yeah. And
I'm gonna have Jim Rosborough on tomorrow and

726
00:47:45.599 --> 00:47:50.239
we'll probably talk about that where Luke
didn't fall far from the tree. He

727
00:47:50.320 --> 00:47:52.400
just wasn't seven foot he was ft
tall. Right, Well, you know,

728
00:47:53.000 --> 00:47:55.800
because you know growing up in that
time, you know, my early

729
00:47:55.880 --> 00:48:00.960
days of watching UCLA was Luel Cinder, right, Kareen Meduligaba and thinking,

730
00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:07.880
I who historically rooted for the underdog, But I was always rooting for U.

731
00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:12.199
C. L A because they were
so great runner. No, I'm

732
00:48:12.199 --> 00:48:15.360
not, I'm an Arizona fan.
I've been a Dodger fan through thick and

733
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:21.199
thin. I resent that comment,
okay, And you know, but watching

734
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:25.039
watching those guys play him, like
I felt like I was watching something clearly

735
00:48:25.079 --> 00:48:29.960
special. Instead of rooting against him, I was rooting for them, you

736
00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:31.719
know, when they got to the
final fours and stuff. And I remember

737
00:48:31.719 --> 00:48:37.519
watching Leuel Cender and then Bill Walt
comes along and I'm like, he's pretty

738
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:39.280
close to you know, he's pretty
close to Uell Center. He didn't have

739
00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:44.960
that skyhook that that that Leuel Cinder
would would shoot and just nobody could do

740
00:48:44.960 --> 00:48:49.119
anything about. But the way he
moved with the basketball was crazy, and

741
00:48:49.480 --> 00:48:52.519
you just couldn't stop him. And
he was so fundamentally sound. He loved

742
00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:57.480
the glass, yes, exactly,
they just go up and bank everything.

743
00:48:57.559 --> 00:49:00.719
He was. The purpose of the
glass was exactly why he used it.

744
00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:05.480
Just simple off the glass shines right, And partly was because you couldn't dunk,

745
00:49:05.719 --> 00:49:07.159
you know, they didn't, they
didn't let you, just so he

746
00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:08.920
would bank it. But he but
you know, you can you can be

747
00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:14.880
in a banking you know, doing
doing the little off the glass, even

748
00:49:14.960 --> 00:49:19.000
underneath the basket. There's people there
to block your shot from behind or wherever.

749
00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:21.960
But he would get in position where
you couldn't do anything about it.

750
00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:23.639
Yeah, and he was just so
good at that, yeah, fantastic.

751
00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:28.760
And then they showed that when he
got Portland to the title. This Portland

752
00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:32.480
team that nobody thought would ever come
into anything had just become a franchise just

753
00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:37.840
years earlier, and they went it
with Lucas who Lucas name wore, and

754
00:49:37.880 --> 00:49:40.280
then went it in seventy seven I
think it was seventy seven. And then

755
00:49:40.320 --> 00:49:45.679
he six Ers, right, think
the Sixers with with the best player to

756
00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:50.119
my in my time, doctor Jas
remember that. And then they were just

757
00:49:50.159 --> 00:49:52.199
a pretty good team. And then
and then it comes and goes to the

758
00:49:52.199 --> 00:49:55.280
Celtics or goes to the Clippers,
and that didn't go well because it was

759
00:49:55.320 --> 00:49:59.360
injuries, right, and then goes
to the Celtics and wins the champions and

760
00:49:59.360 --> 00:50:02.320
wins the champions, right, So
you know he only played far under fifty

761
00:50:01.760 --> 00:50:06.480
camel a lot even well. Again, his health, you know, his

762
00:50:06.519 --> 00:50:08.960
career wasn't you know, wasn't super
long. He extended as long as he

763
00:50:09.039 --> 00:50:13.599
possibly could well and and you know, and yet he got got a couple

764
00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:16.559
of rings. In fact, somebody
somebody said this, I think yesterday or

765
00:50:16.559 --> 00:50:22.920
maybe somewhere after the showyk, I
mean passing big man, a guy can

766
00:50:22.960 --> 00:50:27.119
shoot it, who does a lot
of things. He was yoked before before

767
00:50:27.119 --> 00:50:30.800
you could see the court and see
the see open people. The fat guy,

768
00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:32.559
well look oh another thing that I
saw, fat guy, but he

769
00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:37.559
can play god. NBA is all
European. Look at you. Look at

770
00:50:37.559 --> 00:50:44.880
dunk dunkinch dunkin from from Dallas is
not saying the word yeah. So come

771
00:50:44.920 --> 00:50:46.119
on, he's probably one of the
best players in the in the in the

772
00:50:46.119 --> 00:50:52.639
world right now. Uh. The
Greek freak to two years ago. Uh,

773
00:50:52.679 --> 00:50:55.599
the Denver guy. Like we said, all these guys, you'll get

774
00:50:57.360 --> 00:51:00.679
all these Europeans. But I was
gonna say, when you see this show,

775
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:05.599
Waltman was a wispy, skinny out
of college dude, right, yes,

776
00:51:05.679 --> 00:51:07.679
skinny skinny he was so there goes
to years. He wasn't a big

777
00:51:07.719 --> 00:51:14.320
physical until later Your Oklahoma guy,
your Gonzaga guy, Oklahoma guy, right,

778
00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:19.519
the skinny guy, Oh yeah,
chat chet holmger chit. And then

779
00:51:19.679 --> 00:51:22.800
this year and then Victor Webber,
Yeah, this guy because Walton was that

780
00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:27.800
dude. Walton was that dude in
seventy fought that. Yeah at that time.

781
00:51:28.320 --> 00:51:30.960
At that time, my names were
escaping me. But I mean,

782
00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:34.400
and I was gonna say that's Jay
j would think that Bill couldn't play because

783
00:51:34.400 --> 00:51:36.840
he was so thin. Well,
he wasn't an airport guy. He wasn't.

784
00:51:37.079 --> 00:51:37.599
He was tall. No, no, no, and that's it.

785
00:51:37.719 --> 00:51:42.119
He was not an airport guy.
Yeah, because Louell Sender looked a part.

786
00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:45.760
Even though he was kind of slender, he was still had a physical

787
00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:49.559
look about him. We got a
call, but you can have to call

788
00:51:50.559 --> 00:51:52.000
can't take this call. Yeah,
we can't take this call. You just

789
00:51:52.039 --> 00:51:55.360
called call us after the break because
we were about him or less than a

790
00:51:55.400 --> 00:52:00.239
minute up against the top of the
hour here. But now, yeah,

791
00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:02.159
yeah, you're you're you're right,
and and you know, people like to,

792
00:52:02.239 --> 00:52:05.880
you know, compare the generations and
stuff like that. But if you

793
00:52:05.880 --> 00:52:07.559
didn't get a chance to see Bill
Walton, you know, when he was

794
00:52:07.559 --> 00:52:12.320
in college, especially the young dudes
would say, Okay, all right,

795
00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:15.280
I get it, I get it. I get why people talk about him

796
00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:16.800
the way you're talking about All right, let's take a break. We're gonna

797
00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:20.239
try and get this thing fixed and
be able to play the clips, and

798
00:52:20.280 --> 00:52:23.840
if not, we'll just keep chatting. But we do have Bryce Miller coming

799
00:52:23.920 --> 00:52:28.480
up, who did an extensive He
has done some pieces on on Bill Walton

800
00:52:28.679 --> 00:52:32.239
and had some some experience with him
as well, so but before that,

801
00:52:32.280 --> 00:52:34.519
it'll be breaking news from Ryan