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of games, so you never have to think for yourself. I'm your host,
Jeff Grubb, and with me is Mike Manati. In today's episode,
gaming seems to be falling apart at the seams, and the last of us
factions is on ice. But first, Mikey, how are you doing?
Okay, it's a weird little rainstorm rolled by, kind of a little pleasant.
Although I had shut my window. Turns out that, yeah, they'll
see, there is a problem with your whole windows strategy, Jeff. Sometimes
as it's rainy, sometimes there's water outside and I don't want the water inside.
You're you're right, You're right. This is the flaw is in my
designs. And I'll think of something for you. Mike. I'll come up
with another idea. Cancel your vacation, just work. I'll get back in
the lab and see what I can come up with. Yeah, I find
most of the time windows open in a rainstorm, like most of the time
it's fine, but occasionally you'll get like the sideways rain or the one side
things to get more rain in it or whatever. Right, Fine, I
just because podcasting and those streaming is and get a lot of stuff in there.
Yeah. Yeah, you want to be carried and the ways is all
I was really worried about. I guess I probably wentn't hear it. I
don't know. It's all right, It's yeah. Listen, people come here
for the for the perfect audio of this podcast. That's what they like about
us so much. Mike. I'm heading out of town here pretty soon.
I'm I'm excited about it. Yeah, you're doing a very unmikey vacation.
Go into the woods or something. Go into the woods, go into a
treehouse. Yeah. Yeah, we're gonna do some hiking. That's the whole
thing. Yeah, it's like that. Are the kids really gonna like hiking?
Or do you think they're gonna get from Colorado? Right? For a
while, we spotted some pretty easy trails. They'll like hiking for a little
bit, and then they'll get whiny, and then I'll be carrying two children.
So fine, you have fun with that. Careful. You know there's
bears outside listen. Yeah, of course, if I'm outside, then I'll
scare them away. Mike it'll be fine. I'll make loud noises, armpit
sounds and stuff. You are a bear, it'll be fine. Yeah,
it'll be all right. I do want Like when we were in Colorado,
it was like, no, mountain lions actually definitely are out here, and
those who can't just scare away like those they don't care. They will just
eat they'll eat your kids. I saw a video of a guy having a
scary encounter with a mountain lion. He kind of had to just like.
The mountain lion basically just backed him off for like a mile as he kind
of backed away and swore and was scared for a while. Eventually threw a
rock at it. And that's scared away pretty good. So yeah, maybe
try that throw a rock at a mountain lion. I throw rocks at just
about anything I see that moves. So then yeah, no, no,
no problem there. Uh yeah, but I don't know. How are you
feeling otherwise? You got a good Yeah? Tired? It's just is it
the mental thing of being like you knowing that does see pat machines coming.
Still, It's been a busy week also, right, been doing a lot
a lot of work, a lot of stuff. Giant bomb, which it's
fine. Uh, I feel better today. Yesterday was yesterday. It was
pretty tired that a lot yesterday, But I feel pretty good. The weekend
is actually here. I think it's gonna be relatively chill weekend, so I'm
looking forward to that at least. Uh. Yeah, you know, play
some more games this weekend. Maybe do a little bit of cleaning around the
house, but mostly when I you know, still really enjoying Borders Gate.
We'll talk about that more. A couple other games. I probably should do
some living room gaming this weekend. Right, there's some PlayStation five stuff I
really need to be playing and I should be getting on that. Yeah,
I kind of well, I have the ally I might stream some games from
my PS five on gone that that should be able to do that. I
have some stuff on like NHL. I'll want to be playing that stuff,
but I wish I could just get NHL on Native on the thing. Yeah,
we'll talk about all that, but because I got the trip coming up,
I'm like, we'll just get through this episode. Let's make it happen
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follow us time later next week. When you're back next Thursday, will do
one cool? Maybe I watch the family. I'll make the family watch a
Colombo at h that'll be fun. Children love murder. Yeah, absolutely,
that'll be cozy and nice. I wonder what the most child friendly episode of
Columbo is. Maybe we can start start that ranking for everybody. Yeah,
that's a good question, because I mean it's kind of an element of murder
and at least all of them, Yes, a little bit of murder,
just to spice things up each and every episode, Mike. An even better
question is what the fuck is going on with gaming? As layoffs and uncertainty
seems to be taking hold despite a overall very healthy marketplace for video games.
What's happening? I don't know. Everyone's freaking out. It's like it's weird
house. We're so obsessed with trends, Jeff that even when a trend is
bad, people can't seem to help but want to follow it. It's like,
oh, people are laying everyone off. We should lay people off too.
I guess I don't know. You're good to tell me what is going
on? Well, okay, let's go through this list here. Naughty Dog
cut contract jobs all unionized, Dragon Age, Dreadwolf QA workers laid off from
BioWare. EA isn't giving full severance pay to laid off BioWare employees. Creative
Assembly is laying people off after Sega canceled its biggest project ever, Hyena's biggest
project in terms of budget at the very least, Boomerang X Studio Dang is
closing down. Twitch had another round of layoffs, now as big as its
last one, but another round of layoffs. Epic laidoff eight hundred and thirty
people. Team seventeen is cutting jobs. And Telltale just tonight with the report
is that they cut some jobs as well. And I think the Telltale comment
which I saw him passing, but it correct me if I'm wrong. In
chat, I think they said they're still putting out, they're still working on
the Wolf among us two. Due to market conditions, they have to cut
jobs, and I think it kind of I mean, okay, here's the
reality. Is market conditions? Well, I think it's so. It's interest
rates going up like this. This is the effect of that. This is
what. This is the thing that's supposed to happen. When you raise interest
rates over and over and over again, you're supposed to frighten these companies a
little bit. And it's supposed to cool down the labor market, and it's
supposed to make companies think twice about hiring and all this stuff, and it
seems like that reality has now come to gaming, and it's coming to gaming
pretty hard. I think most of these companies were thinking, can we weather
this? Can we weather this? Can we weather this? And this being
it's hard to borrow money? Like that's really what this all is. It's
just difficult to borrow money right now. And whether that means they want to
borrow money or they want to get investments from big investment investors who also think
about borrowing money themselves to fund their efforts, either way, getting a hold
of capital is much more difficult right now. And a lot of these companies
have used borrowing money to pay their employees for a very long time. That's
a normal thing. Now it is a bit out of the question because borrowing
money very expensive. So I think these companies are like looking around being like,
Okay, we tried to weather it, and yeah, maybe we're coming
on the other end of increased interest rates. But there's no sign that interest
rates are going to come back down anytime soon. And so the healthy market
for selling video games is one thing. The healthy market for feeling confident about
making games is it seems like another. And all these companies are instead of
you know, maybe pulling back in other areas, the easiest thing for them
to do is to get rid of a bunch of people. And it sucks.
It's it is still a bit silly, because again, if you can
make a game, if you can get a game out there, it's probably
there's a good chance it's going to do well because people are buying a lot
of video games. But they are I think they're just too frightened to believe
in that, And so here we are. It feels like a constant onslaught
right now. Mike, I don't know what else to say. Yeah,
it just feels like it's really kind of beating us all down. I mean,
in the case of Telltale, do you think the Expanse that you think
that did well at all? I don't know it's it is it fully out
or all episodes out for the Expanse, I'm not sure what the release schedule
was, Like, I know at least some episodes of that are I wonder.
I think I just saw like I was like on YouTube earlier today and
I saw someone had a live podcast going and I thought they mentioned the Expanse
and there so maybe like a new episode just came out or something, or
maybe they were talking about this news, but I thought it was before this
news break broke. Yeah, I don't know, Like for a studio like
Telltale, that was always a weird one because that's not really even Telltale,
right, it's the ghost, the zombie shambling body of Telltale. Yeah,
just like cut there's that, and then there's that company that also had former
tail Tale people. They had in that game might have more for like actual
Telltale people there than it's at this. I mean, I don't know,
I don't know the legacy. I used to know that this is something that
like got reanimated after Telltale collapsed the first time. But yeah, I mean
I think we saw this. I mean we go back to the Dang Studio,
Dang Boomerang Max good game, things like hey, we're trying to get
investment out there and it's and no one's no one's biting. That is kind
of the whole story here. Uh, for a lot of these studios,
for uh companies like Naughty Dog, I think that comes to uh, you
know, there's a lot of things going on there, but I think it's
mostly hey, if anyone can make if you can make cuts, make cuts,
and I think these companies are like these QA departments keep organizing. Maybe
it'd be easy if we just cut them and think about doing things a different
way. Uh. And and you know, there's a I'm sure there's plenty
of quality assurance houses out there that you can contract that aren't organized, that
aren't unionizing, and you're like, well, we'll just take a little break
and then maybe we'll go work with one of them instead. So, uh,
it's it's miserable. It's what it is. I cover this news every
day, Mike, you do too. It's it's just it's NonStop, and
you feel start to feel like, man, what are we doing here?
Uh, it's hard to feel good about it. It's weird because like,
it's good. It's one of the best years ever in terms of quality of
releases and just the quantity of releases too. Even so, it's just the
baffling that you have that on one And you know, part of it is
that the industry is so big and maybe what's great for one company isn't so
great for another one. But yeah, it just it doesn't really seem to
add up. It seems like the game industry should be better than ever,
and like why it just seems like an unrelenting stockpile, right, these layoffs,
Like you know, I think that if you were to go ask someone
like, what's the way this system should work? Right, it's like,
well, you take a risk, you go, you make a product,
and if that product sells well, you're rewarded by the market, and now
you can invest and reinvest in your company and try again and do something bigger
next time. And we look around like, well, yeah, that sounds
good. It doesn't seem like we're anywhere I look. It doesn't seem like
that's the way it actually functions. It seems like it is. There's a
disconnect from the performance of the market and the rewards there there within. It's
like like they are worried about future uncertainties and that's what it actually defines what
happens, and the money that is coming in from all these successes, uh
disappears somewhere, likely into some executive's pocket, and it's uh, okay,
that's that sucks. That just that really makes me miserable. So it's again
it's like I'm really happy we got a lot of great games this year.
I like playing video games a lot, but this, this constant parade of
bad news for developers, is it? You know, Yeah, we're we're
at high tide right now. Low tide seems like it's going to be coming
really soon with games in the next couple year. We're probably going to pay
for what's happening right now with and people a gonna look, aroun why don't
developers make good games? Well, what it's like, what's what's happening in
twenty twenty three. It has nothing to do with us. We're buying the
games, and yet these companies are still bailing out on us. Foot with
your wallet right and all that. Right, Well, yeah, exactly,
vote with your wallet not now, that's nothing to do with what with reality?
So yeah, it's uh, it's frustrating. I don't like what is
the answer, Like I if we're with we were in charge of these companies.
I mean I always said, hey, I like a company that believes
in making video games. A lot of a lot of publishers and studios are
out there living that sort of motto, and they're cutting jobs too, and
they're there they seem that like they're in the grip of uncertainty as well.
So I don't really know what the answer is. Obviously, it's not put
all your money into live service because that's not work really for anybody. No,
it's been a bad year for Life Service in a lot of ways.
Right, So now at he's got to wait another month for the at Peter
Mullin, who's Web three game to come and see, Yeah, that's true.
That's probably gonna save us all the business Web three business sim that's what
we need, all right. The other side of this news, the Last
of Us Factions is on ice. I think we kind of understood that this
was the case, but to hear the reporting kind of confirm that that.
It's like, hey, they went back to the drawing board or a bungee
came in and said, hey, this multiplayer version of the Last of Us
that you're working on, that you've done a really good job with before.
People really like those other factions, those other uncharted multiplayer games. In the
last of a multiplayer game, in the last game, they enjoyed playing it,
but as a Life service game, bunch he came in and said,
this isn't going to work. And then the answer to that was like,
okay, well let's just go put it on halt and put it on pause
and nothing nothing after that. For me, I would be like, Okay,
at least put it out there, give people a chance. But I
mean, is that how you see it? Do you think that's worth it?
Or do you think they're making the right choice and maybe they can repurpose
this for something else. It's a little weird. I don't know what do
your purpose it as. It's hard to know without really even understanding what this
was, right, Jeff, I mean, it's just bizarre because Naughty Dog
has been such a kind of golden goose. It's weird to see them get
a black guy like this to have a failure of any kind. But yeah,
it's bizarre because fashions is something that they talked up for a long time.
I mean, it was supposed to just be the multiplayer component of Last
of Us two, then it got expanded and then it got drunke into nothing.
It's just a bizarre life, and for this project, this truly is
the effort. Sorry, just Red and chat Connor Woods said, Malau will
be fine. He sold all the NFTs for that game two years ago at
the height of the insanity. Boy, that fucking sucks that that's so gross
that like two years later that game is going to come out into a world
where NFTs are all worthless. Yes, it's kind of incredible. It's kind
of incredible. Oh my god, Okay, whatever though, Yeah, okay,
So I think for factions, I would imagine you can take what they've
done and you just put the multiplayer stuff as a mode in the Last of
US part three, four or five years from now. Yeah, I guess
at this point, why not just why not just hold on to that and
just wait? But I wonder I say that, like, it's it's not
that easy. Like obviously it's not that easy. You can't just you would
need someone actively working on that stuff alongside to make sure that that it doesn't
because you know, there's entropy and development and tools move on, and software
moves on, and all this stuff moves on, and you can't be like,
well, we finished most of that stuff a long time ago. Now
let's just bring it all in right now. I like, well, no
one, the people that had the keys to that kingdom have mostly moved on
to other projects or left Naughty Dog entirely. So I mean, for the
next several years, you would need least some team operating on this stuff,
and I don't know, it doesn't sound like that's in the process. It
mostly it sounds like they're abandoned in this thing. Now the reporting is on
ice, not canceled, but definitely on ice. Make a demolition man.
It's still if they want to, right exactly, It's just I don't know
what thaws it out, what forces them to bring it out. Yeah,
kind of a weird thing to just like, well, okay, no one's
going to work on this whole thing for a bit, and this said they
were just going to bring it out and like all right, like nothing happened,
like you're going to start from scratch basically whenever you unthow it, I
would feel like, I don't know. I think so too. I agree
with your assessment that this it's weird to see Naughty Dog take a bit of
a chink in the armor here. It's a studio that felt like it could
do no wrong for a very very very long time because it wasn't it had
done no wrong, And now even this, it's like, is this so
wrong or is it just like, wells is this the protection from the wrong?
Right? Was that would the wrong have been this game coming out?
And even if it was like another Halo Infinite, right, that would have
not been great. Maybe they spared themselves. That part of the problem though,
is that like, this is supposed to be the strategy for Sonny as
all these life service games, and you would I guess I always assumed that
factions was kind of like the standard bearer for that. It's kind of the
flagship. Yeah, that's not even happening this one if this one doesn't work.
And to go back to the reasons why this wasn't working that I've heard
it is that that Naughty Dog was going to The gameplay was fine, it's
just all of the monetization and the progression, all that stuff around the edges
was done in a way that would not have been great for any live service
game. And when it seems like when Bungie saw that, they were like,
yeah, it would You're gonna have to basically rework all of this and
that is a lot of work because we just wouldn't give a green light to
this and say, okay, well that's that seems like I guess that seems
like a problem that would definitely be the kind of thing that would lead to
a Halo Infinite like situation. I think where people are not playing it the
way they need to be playing to justify this entire process. So yeah,
I don't know. I just don't know it. Like where does Doughty?
Where does Naughty Dog go? But Sony itself, like it's got to these
ten eleven other live service games, maybe twelve. Maybe they were never counting
this as one of those, but I think at least ten or eleven other
live service games. If this game wasn't gonna work, what do they have
in the hopper that's they that they believe in so hard? Or do they
have anything the hopper that they actually believe in? Is that why Jim Ryan
left? I mean, I don't Again, we don't know, but Twisted
Metal something something. It's still weird to me. We had that Twisted Metal
show, a Twisted Metal game, and there wasn't one announced, like they
were making one. Now, yeah, they were making one, okay,
But I don't know. I do wonder what's up. But Naughty Dog,
though in a bigger philosophical sense, because of course there's still more juice to
squeeze out of the last of us fruit. But disgusting analogy, I know,
But like they've got to be thinking about what's next, right, Yeah,
I mean I think they definitely definitely do a Last US part three.
They've already kind of said that that's something that they have written. And the
Last of US machine. With Hollywood stuff now happening, it's too big to
not do. And I think they want to do it, but they seem
to have no interest in doing more un charted, so they probably will do
some other project. And what does that look like? Is that going to
have to happen? I mean, at this point today it seems silly to
have any live service hooks. But at the same time, well then it's
going to be another two d and fifty million dollar project that needs to be
the biggest thing in the world. I believe that they can do that.
That boy, that seemed tough. They already have the perfect the perfect match
to feel their the catalog kill son, he's coming back, let's go,
let's do it. Well, I don't think Herman Holst is gonna let him
take his baby. That's fucking Gorilla games. Yeah, that's Gorilla they got
they got five Horizon games to make apparently, uhh yeah, I don't.
I guess this is some of the stuff that we were saying at the beginning
of this generation, it was very easy and right to feel bullish about Sony's
prospects at the beginning of the generation. But when like we were looking down
the barrel of God of War Ragnarok, it's like, hey, they they
are going to make this game, and it's definitely going to be a big
success, and people are probably gonna like it because I bet it's going to
be a very good game, uh, and and all this stuff, and
it's going to be easy to sell. But what happens when they get to
the third one and it's like more of the same and the diminishing returns start
to kick in. Like they're already on rather thin margins these big, big,
big games. They can't afford that, so they're gonna have to change
things up, and that's gonna be even more expensive and and all these things.
So it's they have that happening kind of across the board where it's like,
you know, we'll see I think Spider Man two is going to be
just fine. Spider Man might be an anomaly, though, like will they
be able to do that with the rest of their franchises, Like is Horizon
just going to keep getting bigger and bigger and bigger without changing up too much.
And if they do have to change it, how expensive and how long
is that going to take? Like they have a lot of They're gonna have
a lot of trouble. I think continuing this momentum the way they have because
they are already they already are putting in as much time and as much money
and as much effort into these games as possible. So if it requires more
time and more money and more effort, where's that gonna come from? Yeah,
it's like the places are for kind of things sort of work down a
way where you have some studios almost wrapping up their PlayStation three franchises in a
fun enough way, like you had Sucker Punch do in Infamous and you know
you had Rolla Games do with kills in the beginning and then by the end.
Though here's their shiny new thing. Games take so long to make anymore.
It feels like we're not gonna get the shiny new things so much.
We're just gonna get the part twos of those last things if we're lucky,
and you will get a Ghost to Shushima too. I don't know if we're
gonna get sucker punches next thing, right, yes, exactly. Yeah,
it's like all these things are real problems for a company like PlayStation, and
so they the solution there, and it seemed obvious, and I think I
think I generally agreed with this approach. Make a bunch of live service stuff
as well. Yeah, why not have the stuff that can like paste over
these big releases. The big releases are these ten poles, but they are
massive projects that you spend five to seven years now on and and a lot
of money, and then people play them and they're done in a weekend or
they're done in a couple of weekends, and it's like, you know what,
you still got their money, and that people pay a lot of money
for video games. Seventy dollars is a lot of money for video games.
That math mostly works out, but it's it's what can you do to like
fill in the gaps between That live series made sense up until earlier this year,
and now it doesn't look like it makes a lot of sense right now,
right And like the other ways they tried to plug up their schedule before
was one like getting marketing deals for big third party games and maybe still work.
It's kind of seems like it's falling the wayside. And their biggest one
was a Call of Duty. So oops, yeah, the biggest final fantasy.
And that's that's worked. That's the thing. Just marketing. That's like
an exclusivity deal. Oh sure, yes, they did that a lot this
year. And you know, like for Spoken obviously did nothing. Sixteen it
probably did okay, did maybe even good, but I'm not I'm not sure
there. It is weird because the whole point of Sony really is like though
the first party is really strong, and you know, of course Microsoft's also
has that problems, had it worse than summary, but that's never been the
whole pitch for Xbox. It's that that's kind of the whole pitch for PlayStation
is how good the first party games are and you get like one a year
or just two. I don't know if it's enough. Yep, And it's
uh, you know, they're there a little bit of a trout right now.
It's not some extreme problem going to be fine. I hope this.
We're not trying to sound like we're doom and gloom and place. Yeah,
they'll figure that, they'll figure this out. But I just think that it's
like This is an illustration of the challenges that someone like Jim Ryan would have
faced, and that there's no obvious solution to That's that's continues to be the
theme I think of this year, where right now things mostly seem good,
but they are They're good from a model that made sense for a long time
and started making less sense as we've described here so far. I'll think games
taking longer, be more expensive, all these things. And now as you
are as as that process gets wider and wider between games, it's like,
okay, now what do we do when when like, the games have to
keep getting bigger because the expectations of the audience are still out there and someone's
going to keep making a bigger game, and so you have to keep up
with them. You can't be suddenly a company that doesn't have the biggest and
best games, So you have to keep up with the joneses. You need
something else, And there is just no obvious answer to that question. And
uh, and I think that's why I most of these companies are like,
we got to make the most of what we have. And again I credit
to Jim Ryan, who mostly who was like who helped Spearhead and this goes
to HROARCHI to Tokey as well and a few others. Uh and the camera
and the camera name. He's the guy that was kind of interim in charge
before Jim Ryan took over. The PlayStation network services stuff has been a massive
success, and their subscription stuff has turned into it's just a money printing mission.
He isn't that the next thing? Well, how come the subscription stuff,
isn't it? Because that is this giant source of in came that we
just didn't have before. Well, I mean, I mean because they they
reworked their subscription service and it doesn't seem like it did much good. That
was that they did make that play. They made that play of all right,
here's PlayStation Plus Essentials medium and large and uh and yeah, like there's
something to it, but everyone's kind of like, I'm happy with medium and
even that most of the time I have I own most of these games.
Are I'm buying most of these games because that's what I'm used to doing on
PlayStation And yeah, I think they are making more money from it, but
they also saw like a decrease in subscriptions, so it's like they made the
exchange there and it's not like it got both. So they made their play
and what else can they do in that space? I don't know. I
guess day, day and date, but that is also a net that's not
net neutral, or maybe it's net neutral a little bit where it's like,
okay, yeah, if you do day and date, you might get more
subscribers, but you might lose more sales. And they're not sure if they
want to make that bargain with the devil quite yet. So PlayStation is going
to be fine because they make they do make good games that people want to
buy, and that's still the key. It's still still a lot of consoles.
But the risks that are inherent to making games are there and continue to
be like a threat. And the way that they were mitigating those risks right
now it was Live service, but it was for a while. It was
the subscription stuff that's that's established now that's built into their expectations. The risks
were still coming and there's no answer because Live service just doesn't seem like it's
going to be a solution. Hey, if they get a big Live service
hit, it will be a very big help. But that seems so even
aken we've been hearing about the strategy for a while. We don't even know
what that game would be right now, it seems more implausible than ever right
now? Yes, uh, okay that those are the big topics I wanted
to talk about you with Nike. Uh. I think what we should do
now is take a break, we'll get back, we'll talk about the superchats,
and then we'll get into the topic of this week, which is going
to be a horror game console draft. Yes, so stick around llween,
We'll be right back after this, everybody, and we're back. Mike,
there's a bunch of super chats. Can you start reading those for me right
now? Please? Okay, Big Fresh thirty seven says, was Metal Slug
Tactics a mass delusion? Or what? Oh yeah, what happened to that?
What was the game again? I'm sorry? What was it? Metal
Slug Tactics? Oh yeah, man, mass illusion. I'm gonna say it
was a mass illusion. We all made that up. That can't be real.
Ep Idiot boxes can't watch live. I want to pop in and give
you each a kissing the cheek. Sorry, my lips are dry. Keep
up the good word, come you know, thanks, Thank you so much,
idiot box. I appreciate it. Bubbsy says, father, why have
you forsaken me? I think he's talking about talking to you, gro I
know. I think he means you. Okay, I can't mean me.
I never loved you. I renounce you. I renounced you, Bubbsy,
I renounce you. Adam GC with a generous first super ted here, thank
you so much, Adam says, help. I bought the star Fiel control
after you two raved about it, and now I can't stand the game,
said, I force myself to play, so I don't feel like a complete
fraud. Please release me from my agony. Hey, look, welcome to
the club. I got all right. The controller still great. The controller
still looks good, by far, their best controller. It's too bad that
when they make like you know, they didn't make a high five rust controller
that looks good. I would get that instead, but this is what I
got. I'm sorry. It's listen, sell the controller. If it's hurting
you, sell it. But also you can have the controller without liking the
game. It's fine. I understand. I understand what he means, though
I would feel this way as well. I was a little bird about it.
Yes, I am not a complete fraud. I was like, oh,
used this anytime I'm in my ship. I'm in my ship for like
five, like five seconds at a time, so it's like pick this up,
put it down. I feel stupid and I'm like, I should have
just done it. I must And keyboard also, yeah, well the flying
the ship of Mosk keyboard is not great. It's it's not You're right,
that's that's true for any ship. And then again that's the starfield. You're
not like some bad example of that. You can have that one. There
you go. I'm sol is just to play first person sure with controller.
I'm just saying, oh, criminals today. And that's double leaderboards. Baby
Michael Michael O'Leary says, Universal's Epic Universe. What her name, that's the
name. This is the third theme park. Yes, it's very, it's
a very, it's such a boardroom name. It's started early testing on ride
vehicles, including the Donkey Kong min Cart roller coaster. Y'all going to put
in for press coverage this time around for early access. Yeah, well we
get closer, definitely, got got maybe an in there, so hopefully we
can do something with Epic Universe when that does come around. Because that's where
the ten Dy World is going to be opening. What's the big timeline on
all this again, Mike twenty twenty five, I think not So what does
this mean early testing? Well, there's all you know there they are having
vehicles move on the tracks because they have to test that like crazy, So
okay, so like that's what I'm I guess that's what I'm asking. So
they they've cleared the land, they started building stuff up, and now they
have like the bones of the track. There's a lot of Yeah, there's
a lot up. There's a lot of ride tracks are just shap bill,
especially roller coasters. Those can go pretty pretty fast. So like there's a
giant just I don't even know what the theme is like dueling coaster in the
middle of the park and that track is all there. I think there's a
how to Train Your Dragon coaster that's also been built up. Maybe that's the
same thing. I don't know, but yes, the track for the Donkey
Kong coaster has already been built and I think just recently didn't notice that the
carts are actually on the track. Now, Okay, very cool. I'm
excited. Theme Parks Stop I believe has a video on all this, everybody.
If you want to see more on that, I do propaganda. Panda
says, stop being a baby. Jeff and beach resident will for remake.
Yep, that was five bucks. Thank you for the five bucks. All
right, since you spent money, I'll go ahead and beat it absolutely,
but only because you asked, Panda. Mike, you skipped a couple.
I noticed some worry. I'm on it all right, Roger, so Jesus.
Jeff claims he's just going on vacation, but we all know it's actually
a bereevement leave to mourn our boy Jimbo Ryan. I mean I don't see
him in chat today. It must be right. Yeah, he's he went
ahead of me. We're gonna spend a nice quiet weekend together. Next one
is oh yeah, Sumi Mex. He says, love to see Jeff wearing
that great shirt that was on the eddy recently. What are some of your
favorite video game related tease purchased this year? What is that? Jeff?
Jeff, It's a heart, and then it's a a planet around it,
and then standing on the planet holding hands. Is Kirby Toad, one of
the cats from Animal Crossing. I think that's ness Ham too, Pickman,
all the Kawhi characters, yes, yes, exactly, Diddy Kong and Shy
Guyan. Can you opid that again, Mike Kawaii perfect you welcome, h
I got I got a couple. I got a couple of good mallow T
shirts on YETI this year. Those Yeah, I got one of those mallow
t shirts and I was pretty happy with it. That's got that like a
Metroid save the Animal shirt. That is so you're telling me you get these
shirts in the yetti, you washed them, put them in the dryer and
they never start the chip. I haven't had it happen with mine, I
don't think, so, Okay, maybe hit me up with your settings on
your dryer and let me know. I've been doing cold water. I know
that lately cold water. I changed the cold waterwise I was just default ship.
I think. All right, Okay, I don't know. I got
fucking T shirts like drying right over there right now because I'm sick of it.
You tell you you got your lineup now? Yeah, it's this one.
Here's from did I catch you? Yeah, Willow Davis. He says,
Hey, Mike Precision Drummer and Jeff Obligatory bassis. Did you play Guitar
Hero back in the day, didn't inspire to try out an instrument forget about
Guitar Hero. I was playing Guitar Freaks. I first found it at the
Columbus game freaking game work game excuse me conflated there, and then I bought
the PlayStation version that I had to import and played that for a while.
So yeah, when Guitar Hero came, I was like, oh cool,
wow, like a lesser version of Guitar Freaks. So yeah, I did
play Guitar Hero for a good while. I did a enjoyed for a bit.
At some point I was like less interested in it, and my brother
was really into it, and basically if I played it because he begged me
to, I enjoyed it and I didn't. I never was like, oh,
need to play guitar now or anything like that. Didn't really care.
Yeah, I also saw that. I remember seeing the Guitar Freaks game and
being I had heard about these instrument based arcade games for a really long time
out of Japan, and so seeing that I was like, oh my god.
And then I tried it out, and then obviously, once Katario started
happening, I got super into it. I played saxophone before that, so
I didn't need to like get into an instrument. Baba is Me says best
game in nineteen eighty one, Wizardry. I'm very excited to re experience it
with a makeover from Digital Clips. PS. Enjoy your well deserved vacation,
Jeff, Yeah, are you going to check out that Wizardry remake? Hang
on, Mike, can you vamp for a second. Yes, I am
going to vamp it up like crazy because I want to check out the Wizardry
remake. Wizardry is it's spot that's like one of the first major actual video
game RPGs. I know that Final Fans as a Dragon Quest anyways, I
think both Dragon Quess and Final Fantasy were inspired by Wizardry, right, and
from Wizardry you get stuff like Ultima and a lot of those other old PC
rpg dungeon crawlers. So definitely, I kind of want to check it out.
I don't know how much I'll actually enjoy it, to be honest,
but I want to try it. Yeah, I'm interested to see it myself.
It is being done by other the Digital Clips right, that's right,
Digital Clips. Okay, So yeah, I'm at a point with them where
I'm going to try anything they put out because the labor of love aspect is
really important to me, and I like, honestly, I mean, Drew
Scanlon's there, and Chris Kohler is there, and Mike Micah is obviously,
you know, Mike. Mike is the one. I think, Mike,
have you ever seen his basement? I'm not sure. I don't know where
this video is. If anyone has it anywhere, send it over to us.
But in his office there's a hatch and you open up the hatch and
you go in his basement. And this is like the mecha of collectibles of
all these amazing, amazing things that he has down there. It's just really
cool. And so these guys, anytime they decide like something's valuable to them,
I decided it's valuable to me, So yeah, I'll check out Wizardry
Alex. Its sad to hear this about factions and so soon after Last of
US Day. That'd be funny if on Last of Us Day they announced,
yeah, by the way, we can't sold faction. Yeah, hilarious.
Uh. We took a golf club to it little late on a little late
on it, Kroudchig Boomer Hidden Zoomer says the modhole is more like a mod
saloon door to I mean. L Grugs says, what is Jeff's favorite grub
of the week. Uh, it's my wife's birthday, so she's my favorite
gub this. Yeah, there you go. And Tendrek says, why doesn't
Sony just take whatever drugs Insomniac seems to be on and give it to all
their studios Bee to four games and one h Jen seems impossible, seems possible
for Somnia. Okay, let's let's like just a little bit of perspective here,
though, No in Insomniac game is really playing for Game of the Year,
not even Spider Man, not Miles Morales that games Chick should have.
Yes, you're right, I agree, but but but they are not doing
like even Rochrid Clakes, not doing the stuff required to get Game of the
Year. Okay, but like the Spidery games are doing. The sales is
still like I listen, I think that they should be doing more stuff like
Insomniac. But I think it's important, or at least was important to Sony
to have I mean, to have those accolades so yeah, I agree with
you, Mike. I like the insomnie all of the Insomniac games more than
just about any of the other studio's outputs. So give me that for sure.
Crouching Boober hen and Sumer says, what's your favorite hole in the wall
bar? Oh? Gosh, I mean what this has got to be local
stuff shoutouts to Draft House. I guess, but that was more fun when
I was younger. I don't know how much I really enjoy hole in the
wall bars as I'm older. There's like I go to a pretty pretentious I
go to like breweries and like beer outlets. Now probably kind of pretentious and
more quiet, but that's what I like. Yeah, that's same here,
Mom forty and then Bubbsy's back says, Jeff is obviously my father, because
my games never have story. I thought, true you crash landed on that
planet, Bubbsy intro cut scene. Now you're just a liar. No wonder
your father does atri cut scene. There was a there was a final cut
scene. There was I think there's a true ending, a true ending,
and a game for me. I don't fucking think so, right, Yeah,
we know, but Rift Apart was nominated for the Key Lees, but
yeah, it was never going to work. Spider Mare is probably nominated.
But but like I just say, if you go back and look at that
year, like how many Game of the Year awards these games are winning and
what it's not many I want to see see because we're that's it for Supertest
right now. So let's just I'm gonna look this up real quick. Rift
Up Heart came out, what twenty twenty one? Okay, uh, what
year with that? Two years ago? What? What? Oh? That's
the It takes two years. It takes two to one over Yeah, Rift
Apart. Okay, that sounds right. Oh. I like it takes too
I probably would have Rift Apart over that. I love. I love Rift
Apart. Yeah, the part. All right, that's it for a Supertest
right now. Everybody, if you said more and we will read them before
the end of the show, thank you so much. All Right, we
are going to make this happen, but we're just gonna take a quick break.
When we get back, we will do it. We're doing the Horror
Game console draft. Look out for that right after this. We're back,
and before we hand the show over to Sean for a minute, let's hand
the show over to Mike for one more super chet. Yeah, we just
got a very generous super check from Doug Mand, who just said, Hey,
guys, just want to let you know Gay Mess has quickly become one
of my favorite shows after discovering you guys when Jeff joined Giant Bomb. Keep
up the great work again, very generous. It's for a super chest on
the stream. Thank you so much, Doug Mand, real really appreciate it.
Thank you, Dugan. That's that's awesome. It's not Doug Mans.
That's like your Digimond, Doug Mand, the hug mon the hugs say dougmnd.
It's like, uh, it's like Raymond. Yeah, everybody loves I
agree, you're correct. Oh you just oh, you were saying you enjoy
saying it your way, which I was like to hear you say it.
I was just making fun of myself because I'm definitely saying it the wrong way,
like Diamond, like Dougman. Yeah, that makes way more sense.
Everybody loves Dougman, So thank you a getting Doug appreciate it, monsters.
Doug Man is the champion. Let's hand the show over to Sean for the
show within a podcast. Something like that. He says it better. I'll
let him do it. Everyone's favorite game show within a podcast closest to The
Messy Pin We Got, Volume eighteen. It is presented by me Turbo Shan,
It is powered by metacrec and it is as always executively produced by Benji
bop Kojima. Quick Rundown of the Rules. The boys will be guessing the
meta crick scores of five games that are ten years ago or older. The
idea is to get the score exactly right, but each point devia that they
are they will add one to their score. If they get exactly right,
they will have five deducted and is golf rules. At the end, you
want the lowest score, So Jeff one last time. So Mike will be
picking first. Mike, I need you gotta break you gotta break this loosen
streak, Bud, Mike, I need to tell me what you think.
Yeah, Limbo for the Xbox three sixty has twenty ten Shut the hell up
eighty nine. Craig reviews, Now you may speak. Okay, good,
thank you sir. Yeah, people like Limbo? How much? Eighty nine
eighty nine Okay, Yeah, I think I'm right. In the same range
because I agree people really like Limbo. The people who like Limbo really like
Limbo. I've never played Limbo. It's a fun, breezy playthrough. Yeah,
what's the other one inside? I'd say most recently, I think I
played a little bit of Limbo. They don't appeal to me. I don't
know what it is. I've really thought about it. We hate indie games,
Yeah, I hate. That's what it is. I just I just
hate the indie developers, the develoers being able to feed their families. Let's
go with eighty eight. Okay. Usually I'm not too into them either,
because it's more about the atmosphere and everything about the actual peah and no hate
towards mind, just not for me. Maybe yeah, same, same,
same, All right, Well, Limbo is in at a ninety. Mike
is very close. Shit man said, ninety gets one, Jeff gets two.
Jeff is now your turn? I need you to tell me what Amy
all capital letters for the PlayStation three has This game released January eleventh, twenty
twelve. It's based on thirty five crank reviews. I have never heard of
this game. What the fuck is this shit? I don't know who is
either? What the fuck is this, Bob? What are you doing to
us? What do you think the theme is? Mike, I'm trying to
like limbo. It's hard to say so we don't know what this game is.
Must be scary too, right, Maybe it's Halloween shit. I just
Halloween shit. Yeah, I mean, look, the colors are Halloween,
aren't they, now that I look closely? Sixty nine nice US seventy three
Mike's more optimistic shot in the dark. Yeah, absolutely thrown a dart.
Okay, well, Amy there perhaps correctly acclaimed game sits as he gets this
right. This is this has gotta be a curve ball one right, like
yep, twenty five a right? Okay, Hey, thanks for the thanks
for telling me about this one. I'll see if I can. This is
like, yeah, how much do I get this on Blake Club? The
hell? Amy got? Okay? I love when we have these like huge
score differentials. I have to like count to make sure that click the right
Yeah, okay, break out the calculator. Alright, this is going well.
Game number three Dead Space for the Xbox three sixty original version obviously October
thirteenth, two thousand and eight. Seventy nine. Cruik reviews a lot to
work with their Mikey, Yeah, people like this wasn't like the craziest high
scores. I recorse. I'm gonna say in eighty seven, okay, So
okay, I'm distracted by Amy being included on the Wikipedia page for games notable
for terrible reception. Ooh, okay, it got a two out of ten
from my gn Okay, dead Space eighty seven is pretty good. I'm gonna
go with an eighty four, though eighty four from Jeff going a little lower.
I actually think this might be higher personally, but we'll see what is
possible. I just I don't know this first one people did. They didn't
really like it. Well, the original Dead Space came in at in eighty
nine. Okay, there it is, man, Okay, so we're tied
tied up at fifty one points at However, about halfway through the game game
number four, an average golf round is like seventy two strokes. So just
this is fine. Alan Wake the original for Xbox three sixty May eighteenth,
twenty ten, one one hundred correct reviews. Jess, I am gonna go
with an eighty five this time, say eighty five. Damn it thinka eighty
five. Shit, okay, gosh, because I don't know, people get
some people do get hung up and think, you know, by the repetitiveness
of it doesn't bother me. I'll be optimistic. I'll say eighty six.
I really like this game. Eighty six locked in there? Cool? Yeah,
all right, well, Ellen, wake the og has an eighty three.
I got right in the ballpark. Yeah, yeah, that sounds right.
They were right close. Game one point difference, Game NAR five.
The last one is Outlast, the PC version released September fourth, twenty thirteen,
fifty nine frict reviews to work with Mike. Yeah, which which one
was this? Again? What was that last? This is like the It's
just like Me game. Yeah, this is the one when there's a monster
chasing you through a building or something. Yeah, this is like one of
those that sort of started the path I guess, Resident Evil turning to residueval
seven. Yeah, it's like one of those spooky eighty two. Eighty two
I'm gonna go with I think I played a little bit of this game.
I'm gonna go with an eighty eight. Don't get interesting, all right?
All right, a right, Well, Mike's so excited. Outlast came in
at eighty. How was I close? I didn't even know what this game
is? How was I even close? Jeff gets it exactly right. We
are ending the game Mike at fifty six forty or treat. I don't know
what this is. There's some duck assles out now. Congratulations, Thank you
very much, Sean. I appreciate it. That was a lot of fun,
especially since I keep winning. Oh boy, oh boy, I wonder
which rules are going to change this time. Can't wait to find out next.
All right, well, Mike goes pee. You know what, Christian?
Should we take one more break? Sure, we're gonna take one more
break, and then when we get back, then we'll do the Spooky Game
Console Draft or Halloween Game Console Draft. I don't know, Mike, you'p
saying at me about it. We'll do it right after this and we're back.
It's time for the Halloween Game Console Draft, Mike. We don't know
who won any last draft or whatever. Sewan offered to look, but you
have a twenty sided diet that's as good as anything else I did. I
want to make it clear, I did offer for you to go first.
Yeah, And I looked at your pity and I spat at it. So
put you odds on this twenty I'll take evans. Please chat real quick.
Is the is it flashing? Is the graphics flashing? Oh? Okay,
all right, never mind. Uh cool, let's to two. You get
to go first. Great, all right, fantastic, let's see I am.
Let me let me think here, Claire, So we're draft So what
we're doing here is we're drafting. Yeah, yeah, give me the what
you what you think this means? Because I want to operate in those condos.
We're just picking halloween consoles, So just anything that's spooky or scary,
anything that you think is kind of halloween ish, right, because that develops
a bunch of things. So yeah, all right, which one remake it?
Yes? I've played a lot of it, just well a couple of
hours. Oh my god, listen, you should have gone first then if
you were going to get so upset about it. Jesus four is a good
game. I like it. I like it a lot. The first time.
I like it somewhat the second time. Just shut up. The scariest
thing in October is my anytime I talk about resume before round, Mike Oh
had no suggestions chat just oh yeah, there's no suggestion even maybe we will
take yours after they pick theirs, Okay, resident before. I think has
got to be the biggest, like Mover and Shaker on this console, there's
gonna be a lot of stuff that people really care about. I think this
is the one that the most people will care about. Okay. It's funny
because when I talk about it being game there get yelled up. But sure,
Okay, I don't yell at you about that. I just said there's
no chance. Okay, dang it a boomer? Could you say, dang
it? Am I a boomer? Yeah, you're doubting yourself. I'm not
getting chat. But like I'm there's a bunch of like sixteen big games,
even epick games, and I'm just terrified to pick one after that. Like,
I think it just has to be the best. I'm gonna go.
I wanna take it for you, Ken, I'm gonna take Castleween, Sympathy
of the Night right now, taking it right now. Just as far as
games with like vampires and Halloween monsters running, I think it has to be
the best one. So I feel good about it. Okay, I am
gonna go with Silent Hill too hit, because I know that when I choose
it, I'll get that kind of reaction out of you. And also a
lot of people are obsessed with this game, obed. We're doing twelve games
again, it used to be our usual. Oh we're doing twelve, Yeah,
we can do twelve. Shit. Okay, yeah, I think I
just what I did the JRPG draft with the Cameron I we did like five
or six games, so I had that in my head. But you're right,
we did twelve games. So let's let's go for it. Let's at
least do ten and see how we're feeling to that one. It's fun to
have to scrap the bottom of the barrel. Okay, very good point.
All right, I better, Mike, I know the next one to pick.
Okay, I mean, look, I have two pass here. I
give a pick the Reds the other resuval game now, and hope you don't
want to take it it or pick something else, because like, oh,
he won't want to. I'd better just take Resident Evil to remake, right
now. I better just do that. Get to get that one done as
able to remake. There, I have it safe, Ishi. I will
say one of my strategies going in here was be like just pick every Resident
Evil game. I think that would have actually helped a lot. All right,
I'm gonna go with PT. Okay, all right, we'll see you're
right that probably just play. I'm just not impressed by PT because I didn't
play it. Definitely plays will win will give me win over some portion of
the audience. Yeah, you know you are really horny for that game demo.
But whatever, I will pick Luigi's Mansion three now, shit, all
right, that's pretty good, going a little bit better, being a little
bit better now, Okay, Uh, I'm gonna go with I got a
couple I'm thinking about. I think I'll go with Dead Space the remake.
I guess that makes sense. Uh, then I will now hm hmm,
like let me be careful here, let me think about this carefully. Road
Fall, no joking. Yeah, yeah, I'll take right now. I'll
take that's a good one. That's a good spooky Halloween game. Yeah.
I really really enjoyed it on week last year for a spooky fun time.
Okay, let's see, I did dead Space, so yeah, I like
this one. I'm gonna go with. Like what now, I'm like trying
to figure out what you'll pick and if you'll like consider some of the things.
I'm thinking about that because there's so many places we can go with this,
Mike. I'm I'm I'm gonna ask if Castlevania sympathy on of the Night
is on? Here, can I pick Bloodborne? Uh? Blood? Oh?
I mean yeah, absolutely, Ship, I fuck yeah, I guess
you could. Damn I'm gonna pick. I'm gonna pick blood Born. I
think I'm gonna pick blood Born. That's a pretty good one. I think
I'm gonna pretty blood Born fucking lose again. I was like not even thinking
that would count because we're going in with like horror games and now like,
well that's basically modern Castlevania. Okay, Ship, Now I need to think.
I mean, my list doesn't look bad, but then like I like
your list, Like I like that as always, I think I like your
list better than mine. It's always God, yeah, I gotta think for
a split second here. You gotta give me no problem to take your time.
I'm like, I will also be considering my strategy. There's a I
don't I feel like there's some big ones, but there's also it feels like,
yeah, I don't know, we might just be digging deeper on some
of these franchises soon. I don't know. I mean, this feels like
a good pick if you didn't have just picked Bloodborne. I'm still gonna go
with it Alien Isolation. That that is literally the one I was gonna pick
before I thought about Bloodborne. Yeah, damn, I think I think Alien
Isolation is a good one. All right, all right, chat, Jeff
hasn't won yet. You'll calm down. This happens every time. Wait the
vote, now, calm down. It's fine, it's fine. Uh,
guys. I always have strong early picks and then I beef it at the
end. So let's just win. Let's just wait. Well, yeah,
listen, because my strong early picks make the difference. Let's see what do
we have on the board for that? Not yet. I'm gonna go with
Amnesia the Dark Descent. Okay, Yeah, I'm gonna go with Bayonetta two.
Oh okay, I like that a lot. That's a that's a good
one. Mm hmm. So how many we have one through three? We
have six? We have six slots left. I think I'm gonna go with
the Evil Within two. Kay uh, I will now do which one?
Everyone did? Like it? Even I had a problem Devil May Cry five?
Oh yeah, uh? Okay, does does BioShock count? You think?
I don't know because there's not like witches or anything like that. I
think it's it's scary, but is it HALLOWEENI atmospheric? I don't know.
I just I just don't get a ton of Yeah. I think most people
in chatter are saying I think I agree. I agree. I don't think
they as shocksha count either, So I'm fine with that. Okay, then
let's go, let's let's step back kind of in this direction. Well,
let me think for a moment actually before I make any rash decisions. Does
anyone care about that? I don't know if anyone cares about that, that's
my issue. And then, like I'm thinking about a lot of games,
I'm like, I don't know if they have big enough audiences to make a
difference on this list. So I'm like, should I just kind of wrap
back around now? And I think I think I'll start doing that, and
if I have to get if I have space at the end, I'll do
that. I'm gonna go with Resident Evil remake. Okay, yeah, fine,
uh fear oh, that's a good one. Uh, it's all capped
anagram. It stands for something I do not respect that. I only respect
one camel case and that's it. Uh. Vampire Survivors that one. I'm
that one. I like. I like that. I think that's a fun
pick. Uh. Vampire the Masquerade, Oh, mass cardad how you spell
it? Looks? Looks? Give me squiggles three six nine. We have
three picks left? Yep, Okay, I'm gonna go with Fazmo Phobia.
Okay, we should We should play that game sometime. Yeah, we should.
I know. Okay. Now I have a question. Would you count
Doom twenty sixteen. It's demons, right, I think that counts. God,
that's a good pick if Yeah, that counts to me? Demons.
I know it's sci fi, but that's it's still mostly hell demons. Yeah,
Doom counts. Yeah, twenty Doom twenty sixteen, that's a good one.
Man. That's Uh, that is a game I would like to play
on Halloween. Okay, I might fuck around and find out and go with
five nights at Freddy's, all right, because she just do fun enough.
Just because I don't know, I feel like I don't know. There's a
handful of people out on it. It might be like something they have if
probably not. Instead, I'll find Nights of Freddy. You will get all
the zoomers in it. Yeah, I'm trying to get the zoomers. I
don't think they're gonna see the tweet or the anything. And I don't think
they're gonna chat, that's for sure. And they're probably not in the discord.
But whatever. Ghostbusters the video game, that's fun. Okay, So
now are we at We're at one last one. I think that's the last
one. Jesus. Okay, I like this one. Okay. Inscription okay,
mhm, sure forgetting something. Okay, there's like this. There's a
sixteen bit one I want to do. I could probably do better, but
I don't know. Maybe maybe give me something to these The retro freeze is
good. I'll do Splatterhouse two like that. All right, Now, there
it is. Let's see one of you guys want to put a thing in
the chat and one what am you put in the discord? And I'll do
a tweet. I have the disc out, I'll read them out. I'll
do the cha the mic Before Christmas. Halloween game console has Castlevania Symphony The
Night Resident Evil two remake, Luigi's Mansion three, Alan Wake, Alien Isolation,
Bayonetta two, Devil May Cry five, Fear Vampire, The Masquerade,
Doom twenty sixteen, Ghostbusters, The Video Game at Spoderhouse two, The Death
Grub sixty four has Resident Evil four remake, Silent Hill two pt Dead Space
remake, Bloodborne Amnesia, The Dark Descent, The Evil Within two, Resident
Evil remake, Vampire Survivors, Fastmophobia five Nights at Freddy's inscription. Oh,
left for Dead, that would have been good. Huh. I thought about
it, thought I about Left for Dead, But I think it's left for
that for that counted. But last of us have been I don't know sure,
I don't know. IM zombie stuff zombie And if you would have said
that, I would have been like definitely. Was there any reason that you
didn't go with like O g ri Foh? Oh, I don't know.
It just seems like weird. If you had remake, you say A or
B, but it like looks like nothing. Oh, I don't know.
If it's going to confuse people, right, let me and this polls,
then I'm gonna I'm to do it again. Sorry, because chef, Yeah,
I was doing that for the blind pole on Twitter. Yeah, it
doesn't be blind here. Yep, people, people know what's what. Okay.
If if anyone is a podcast producer and you are watching live in our
discord, if you go to the podcast threads portion, there is a thread
there that has a pole where you can vote on it, and that is
the official poll to determine the winner. For yes, that is how the
winner is actually determined. Win somewhere else you still in the opponent's face.
It was some like Siren game, like the one Siren game. Yeah there
for sure. Yeah, Left for I kind of regret now putting Left for
Dead on there. I mean I won''s like my last pick, but I
should have done Left for Dead instead. Mike, how are you feeling about
your list? I don't know. Look at it, sure looks good.
Uh. People think blood Borne people like people are just so horny. There's
straight horny for from soft games, Jeff and just can't be stopped. Dead
Rise is a good one. Okay. So yeah, yeah, I think
you're right, Mike. I think Bloodborne is kind of a tough one to
overcome. I was I almost picked the Alien Isolation instead. I wouldn't even
thought of Bloemore. I just wasn't thinking if it would have been okay,
maybe I went on things, so yeah, yeah, I think in the
like the discord, I have no idea what's going to happen. It's pretty
close on Twitter right now, it's like fifty fifty two to fifty forty eight,
so kind of right, and that's like just started, so yeah,
it's gonna be close. We'll check on on that here in a second.
We'll give you guys all some time to vote. If you're voting, line
Iro, vote for my console. It has a Bayonetta game. That's what
we're doing. If you're listening on the podcast feed later this the poll will
be up for twenty four hours, so you'll be able to vote the day
after this goes up. Otherwise, you can always just go find that thread
and yell at us there too. If we forgot your favorite game, Are
you seeing anything in chat that you wish you would have included? Not really
actually, so that makes me feel we didn't seem to miss anything. I
guess at the album maybe acting ye I said the Apple two, I could
have probably gotten away with that. That one makes sense. That would have
been allowed some of your metry dread or metro games like, eh, not
for Halloween Doom three? What are are you? The boomer Christian Doom three?
Scarrydam's a good one. I'd like that. There the fuck is my
vampire savior? Mic I thought you would get my back there, and you
did. It would be he said vampire and like I saw the light bulb,
I'm like, oh, he's gonna pick it, and then you know,
Masquerade still a good pick. But come on, yeah, like one
fighting game always helps because the fighting freaks are like, thank you for remembering
that we exist? Yes, exactly, Yeah it was. It's actually one
of my favorite Halloween games. Would costume play. I just forgot, oh
Hades. Maybe it's not really like I did say Griffin Dango because like one,
maybe a little need to I get you get yelled at if you say
that's a Halloween fowing game. Yeah, because it's very it's a very specific
thing that's not Halloween yet. So it's a good point, even though it's
like skeletons like Halloween. But no, not this. I think it might
have been good. Yeah. I considered Call to the Lamb uh, but
I don't know. I wasn't quite feeling it afterward? Are we feeling uh
zombie? My neighbors is like I would have thought about to dude, but
I was afraid doing too many old school ones. Uh what's that one starring
polter Guy? I could have done that, but no one gives a shit.
All right, So yeah, what do you think we should do now,
Mike? Should we talk about our games and then check or do you
want to just get the results now? I think we're probably good at this
point. Let's see what Sean. Sean could maybe see how many votes there
are. Sean would say, maybe talk about what you've been playing first.
Okay, sounds good. Let's see again, everybody, if you're in the
discord, and if you're not, you I mean you want to be a
podcast producer. I guess you have to don't have time to join the Patreon
and everything. But if you are already a member of the Patreon, the
Discord, Discord, dot gg slash game mess voting there, all right,
Mike, you what have you been playing? Gosh, it really has been
a lot of boulders Gate three and Steeve Star. Still I did beat Sea
of Stars, but I was told to like I should get the true ending,
which requires you to kind of do a lot of the major side quests,
and I mostly don't mind it because most of the sidequests are fun,
but one of them is a five kind all of the hidden thing things,
right, there's like these sea conscies and there's sixty of them. So that's
why I want to kind of find annoying because I basically says, going to
guide because I don't know which ones I got and like find you can.
There's like a some system that helps with that a bit. But that's a
little annoying to me, especially because you know, I really liked the game.
The ending was a little like, oh, you're holding something back here
to me, and now I kind of think I know why. We'll see
when I get this true ending. But part of me is like, I'd
rather you just maybe put all that in the ending. If you want to
do something fun for the true ending, then sure. But again, I
haven't seen the true ending yet, so I'm not exactly sure. But I'm
still look I like See Stars a lot, so having to play more of
it isn't exactly killing me. Oh, Junior says, the true ending is
bad. I heard somebody say it was essential that's interesting. Would you like
at a certain point be like, well, I guess I'll just watch this
on YouTube. I thought about it. But the thing was, so a
lot of those quests I already did because that's how you get everybody's best weapon,
and they were fun, so I did. I did a lot of
those, and I did kind of part of it was that like whole like
that ending was in everything I kind of needed. So it's like I definitely
really want to see what the true ending is maybe kind of feel a little
bit better. Oh sure, Okay, yeah that makes sense. I what
was your time and your twenty five hours to like beat it normally, and
then it's probably gonna be like like three or five more hours to like okay,
hit everything here. Yeah, and that's that's really nice. I saw
some people saying like seventy five hours and stuff like that. How does that
happen? I don't know, I will say generally, I do sometimes notice
like beat games a little faster than these say, but that yes, because
I remember Twilight Princess was one of those like the first time people were like,
this is a seventy hour game, and then I beat it in like
thirty hours. I'm like, how does how going to be that much of
a discrepancy. I don't understand. But no, if you there's no way
it would take you more than thirty hours to at least just beat the game.
I can't imagine what else you've been playing. Yeah, like the Botskate
three. I got to Act two reacts, right, so was digging around
in there a little bit. Basically just started that. All of Act one
was super fun though a lot of cool stuff. It is incredible just going
off the be and path a bit doesn't just find like something kind of neat,
but these giant quest chains or tons of interesting stuff. Anybody wh's done
Act one knows that kind of At the end, you could find this optional
forge that has a lot of neat stuff going on there, right, You
mentioned that that sounded that does sound cool, right, So it's really cool.
Is obviously you can use the forge. You can make some really good
armor or weapons, and there's a kind of a a counter tied to that
and some other stuff. The whole sort of last area before you move on
to Act two has a lot to do. It is just so dense.
It's such a dense game, and I really like that just everywhere I go
there's a little bit something. What's funny is you know I said on the
bomb cast how much I like how important the levels are, Like I'm like,
well, thirty hours in or something twenty five hours in and I'm level
five. Each time you love up it feels great because it's this giant power
leap. And then some of the D and D freaks were like, uh,
that's what everybody hates about this new version of D and D is at
the level of don't feel as good as they used to. It's like,
man, I can't imagine because this still feels like quite a bit, so
I don't know what that used to be. Like, yeah, that's that's
I guess. I mean, I'm not familiar enough with D and D.
I've listened to a lot of real play is that what they're called, podcast
or a handful of them anyhow, and I still like, from a distance,
like, I think they kind of are taking some liberties with this to
make sure it's entertaining. And I have no idea if I'm getting the real
D and D experience. So what I've learned from Balderskate three so far,
I agree with you. It's like fun to level up. That's like one
of the coolest things about it. I think my power jump from level four
to level five was just ridiculous. You know, each each character, depending
on their class, gets access to some new stuff. But even just the
way the stats like your health and how much damage certain spells suddenly did,
Like it's a huge difference to the point where you know, like that if
I'm having trouble somewhere, maybe it is worth to see where I am if
I can go somewhere and get a level real quick, because that could trivialize
a single encounter. But yeah, it's just been it's been great. It's
been everything I wanted from it. This this is the game I'm playing on
my trip. I am, I got it ready to go on the ally
it is. This is your new character? Yeah, solo run cool?
Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't. Do you have a recommendation
because I don't know. Well, I think it is important to almost take
a little bit ahead about who you want your party and make sure you're not
sort of doubling up there right right, because like I picked Cleric and I
like that. But like one of the first characters you meet is a cleric
who you probably want in your party. So actually, now the good news
is you can re roll the other characters pretty right the games her A Bard
okay if you okay, yeah, if you build the clerics very different from
each other, you can't run two clerics in one okay, crazy, Like
I just have to Even if you're rolling like kind of the same, you
still you can see play the game. It's not like you have to.
Fine. I would just never like balance party again. I just I would
give me to be honest, Okay, I would never. I would never
want to just have to the same class by party. It feels a little
I don't know, blandy to me. Yeah, I'm just like, you
know, Basket Robinson, like, oh, there's two flavors of chocolate,
like yeah, but I'm like, I'm only getting two scoops here, so
kind of want to mix things up a little bit. I know what you
mean. I don't know. I mean I personally like I've been happy sort
of having two people who can heal myself. But I don't know if that
standard that's what everybody needs. But again, especially early on, if you
don't know, it's like a lot of video games where it's kind of hardest
hardest at first because you don't have a whole lot of abilities, and you
probably don't really know how to play it yet. You don't really understand that
each encounter is kind of a big deal and it's okay to spend a lot
of your abilities and then to go rest. Yeah, I think I'll go
in there. I always want to like do like a more uh non traditional
character or whatever, like a bard or something like that thing marred. But
I think I'm like, I get scared, and I think I end up
settling on something like a rogue, which I think is still like, oh,
that's not quite like a magic user. It's not quite beat him up
guy. Sure, But I don't know. I think I start overthinking and
kind of work myself into a shoot where I'm like, actually, I probably
would have had more fun if I was just a magic guy or just to
beat him up guy. I don't know, So I might just go with
whatever I'm feeling and try to I had to do it again, I maybe
would pick like a some kind of a tankier melee person, because I have
one melee person my party, Karlac, and she's very good and part of
me is like, I'm make two of those. Might da actually just make
everything easier? Because you know my setup right now is I have the Wizard
Gale, and then I have a shadow Heart as a bar so she's mostly
ranged. And then I'm a cleric so I can do some stuff up close,
but a lot of my stuff is also sort of range. And then
carlaks just in there, you know, wrecking everybody in their face, and
that mostly works, but I wonder if it would be easier if I had
to pure melee people. Okay, well I'll I'll make my decision public and
let everyone help me out. I don't think. Yeah, chan is a
good point. Drews are cool, and I don't think, at least unless
I miss somebody, I don't really think you get a Drew in your party.
So that's so you don't get that that druid guy at the beginning.
You you miss somebody, you can't get a dread. I talked to that
guy, but then he say he wanted to go underground with me, and
then uh just kind of wasn't there. Yeah, you you're okay. If
he if you've seen him, see him on your camp, you can you
can't get him like, okay, he was on my camp. He said,
yeah, let's go underground. I was like, okay. Then I
talked to him, and I don't know there was an adoption about that.
Right now, everyone in chat is also saying, oh, no, you
keep talking to him. Okay, it's d n D. The fact that
I had his own experience. I think it's part of how it works.
To be clear, I don't care. I mean my party. I have
my party. I wasn't going to put him in my party anyways. He
isn't usable to act too. I don't know, not right away. In
inact to you have. I was confused about it, to be honest,
because like he's like, yeah, let's go down there. I was like,
okay, then you talked to me. He's like, you know all
I could talk to him. That was like about having sex with him,
I think, And I was like, well, no, I know you.
I see. He didn't fit in with Mikey's Angel, so he's not
on the team. Listen. I was just gonna say this, his storyline
is pretty good, and I think you should like. But I don't know,
Like, I don't know if I'm that interested in doing the storylines for
the characters who aren't in my party. We'll see, but at least in
this place you'll see. Yeah. Yeah, it's so weird. I wonder
how he missed because I swear I just talked to him and I didn't see
any options, right there? Are you an act two? Now? You
said, yeah, I'm an aw Now that's right, okay, and you're
okay, okay, fair enough. Well, you said you want to go
to the underground passage with me, So that's why I talked to him,
like are you gonna come? And then you know, he didn't. Maybe
I missed it, but I didn't see anything that looked like the option to
have him come, So I thought he would just show up that druid,
fuck that rud, fuck that true bear. The bears? Can they really
show how much? Like you can show the entire butthole of the b Yeah,
yeah, but you can't show the bear's penis. Have you seen a
sex scene in Baldersk yet? No? There is quite a bit penis.
Yeah, but it's okay, but is illegal, is what I'm getting at.
Right, you can't show that like not fictional beast reality. That's that's
dude. Have you have you been on a what's it called an archive of
our own? Have you been on A three? Come on, all right,
now tell me how bad I lost to Jeff already. I can't take
it. Okay, okay, let me close this poll here, let me
see. Okay, we got the results, we got the sports. It's
good. The winner with fifty seven percent of the vote, so not a
huge blow up, but definitely a decisive win. The death Grub sixty four.
Hello, everybody, what do you think of what went wrong for you?
Mike against me? I agree, Quod Born, I don't know.
I didn't think you're gonna pick Rose before and make then then you got Silent
Hill too right away, also, which sucked. I don't know. I
think it's typical, Like I think, even when I'm like trying not to
be boomery, even I'm like simply the night is obviously a stone cold classic,
right, there's probably still going to people like it's a whole game.
I don't care about Symphony a Night anymore. And I don't know, I
don't know. I look at it. I have a good list, you
have a good list, but all the rounding out the problem is, I
think the problems of everyone else nobody actually votes to the spear of the game.
No one actually thinks about the complete console lineup. They just look for
their favorite game. For a lot of people, people have one or two
favorite games. I think nobody cares that you have stupid shit like five Nights
of Freddy's at yours. Well, my list is like all good stuff and
like a good variety of things. No one gives a shit about it because
the idea of like, yeah, because people want to play their favorites.
You don't even have like a single, Like just a lot of people like
five Knights of Freddy's and they're younger, but they count. They're also keep
in mind, mindy, they don't. You're right, and I paid your
less yet to a DMC five see yeah, wow, Listen can't balance out
just says, you know, yeah, I think it's uh yes, I
think basically, uh, it's a it's a travesty and it's wrong, and
I am actually much more upset than I'm letting on. But I just can't
afford another blowout right now. I think it's not good for my health,
good for my own Mike, Yeah, I know, he went on Twitter
and pull up one everywhere. I'm sure one everywhere cool. I think that,
uh, like, I think you're right about five Nights of Friday's.
I think it would have helped if you would have just picked good games instead
though, so just better games like to actually make a difference there. That
would have probably helped you where to go on. If you play Resident Evil
for when you get back, and I'm gonna be honest, if you don't
agree that it's one of the best games ever, you're going to be in
trouble. That's the expectation. Now. Every time, like Mike, you
should play something, I'm like, I will take well, I will do
that, Jeff, I will take a lot of that time, even though
times I will play through all Pigment four and agree with you it's great and
have your back come Game of the Year time and all this shit because I'm
a good friend and a good person, and all you have are jokes.
All you have are taunts at jokes, You swarmy piece of shit. When
I was first dating Stephanie, She's like, You're a smarmy asshole. But
it just comes naturally. I can't help myself. All right, So I'm
feeling pretty good. Well, we will do so we've been doing those game
of the year lists for a while. It's just a better blood Born.
It's actually sixty phrase per second. You'll get over Bloodborn getting over a little
bit of your list for a while. We've read a little bit, it
a little bit of a break. We'll probably mix those back in here and
there instead of just doing like back to back to back, So so now
that will just kind of be part of the rotation. I really like this
genre specific or theme specific console draft mic, so we'll do more of these
as well. We'll also do like the handheld console drafts soon. We did
that before. We'll do the psp ds one or whatever it was that we
haven't done yet, So look forward to all of that. Like I said,
I played some Forts Motorsport. It's really good. I haven't had a
chance to play a ton of it, but but I have played. I
just really enjoyed the way that the game is set up, where it's like,
let's get you into a race, let's have fun. It's gonna feel
great, it's gonna feel amazing, actually, and then you're gonna get through
that race, and when you're done, we're gonna give you a ton of
cool stuff. And if you're an idiot, Like like you are, Jeff,
here's a button the press and it's just all the good stuff goes into
the right slot and your car's gonna be even better And isn't that that nice?
And I'm like, that's very nice. Thank you so much. Let's
get you into another race. Oh, thank you so much video game for
just patting me along. And I have no idea how Fortshah motorsport. Like
long time weirdo fans that play two thousand hours of this game feel that they're
gonna have to go figure that out on their own. For me, as
someone who might have picked us up in game pass, where it's at,
and that's like a totally valid thing. I think most people who are like
have any Patris passing interest in racing games or seeing something very very pretty are
going to have a very good time with this game. Uh it's I don't
think it's out for everybody. I think it's still like the early actions when
it comes out for everybody. I might be wrong. Definitely don't jump on
that hundred dollars version if you're not sure, but get it try it out
in game pass. I think again, most people are going to have a
very good time with it. So yeah, now AJ just messages me that
he thinks it's pretty Is it their early acts or something? I guess maybe
it is. Literally as I said, just texting me. Yeah, it's
out on early access, so if you do version. I was still stewing
about the game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, you
know, listen, Mike, we understand you're allowed to know. You made
so many mistakes with the Qbore Jeff, Jef, I have I have a
follow up question to show you my interest and engagement. Okay, let's go
for it. Yes, how are the vibes? Because that's something I enjoyed
in Grant Trisma seven, aside the fact that it was brave enough to continue
using numbers, I liked the vibes in Grand Trism with seven a lot.
I think that the vibes are similar and that they're subdued. I think it's
I think it's very much just like, hey man, you're here for the
racing. Let's get to the racing. The Grand Tourism you described as kind
of have like a let's sit in a coffee house, an expensive coffee house
and talk about cars and like how much we love cars. I kind of
like that shit, and it's not doing that. So I think grandt Tourism
but probably still has it there. But this is like similarly similarly mellow.
It's very much like, hey, let's just play some calming music. There
is no one ever saying social media. It's just yeah, right, social
media, social media. It's no. It's all about just hey, get
into the race, have a good time. And I appreciate that, but
I think I never played Grand Turismo seven or whatever it was, whatever the
number was. Seven. Yeah, But the way you described those those charming
vibes, I'm like, that sounds kind of nice. I kind of would
like that smokey everyone's hanging out drinking whiskey or expensive coffee. I like that.
But still it's it's much better what Forts Horizon is doing these days,
at least in my opinion, I'm very much over the party house vibes.
I didn't. I have not really put any time into mirage since I did.
I have a preview of that. We we talked over our footage.
Me and Mike play a little bit kind of like the thing is like we
me, me and you both did that preview. We got to play for
a while, like right, and it's like, yeah, and there's other
games happening, so let me get hands on with those instead. It's so
it's uh and I'm joyed it. Yeah, and really I'm playing Spider Man
two, everybody. That's what I'm doing. And that's been a that's been
you know, that's been a thing taking up a lot of my time.
So uh, let's get through that. Maybe I'll check pick in on some
of these other things. Although I think Mirage might miss its its window with
me personally, we'll see. It seems like it's a fine game. But
I think it's fine. I think it's doing all things I said I wanted.
It's just yeah, a lot of people are like, yeah, it
does that, and it does it well, but you know, it's it
kind of it's kind of doesn't feel very high on the Jeff Backel are Important
scale in some ways. Right. Yeah. It reminds me of a rogue
Assassin's Creed rogue where it's like, hey, don't you uh no, I
don't think I ever played somebody else I know, like Rose Yes, where
it's just like, hey, yeah, here's another Census creed next to this
other one and smaller and it's like this other thing that we kind of built
up into its own thing, and it's like, yeah, it's It's definitely
not in the upper ast echelon of Revelations or Brotherhood Too and Black Flag,
but it seems like it's like right behind those and that's cool, that's fun.
I'm glad they did it. All right, Mike, let's get out
here. Anything else we need to wrap up before we play the music.
I think we got it. When more super chat all right, yes,
yes, I think they're all mocking me. Theire Wolf says, I'm sorry,
Mike, but I'm a bloodborn. Look I get it. It's obviously
a good game. I lashed out of Bloodborne. I'm sorry. Even though
what I said was true, I still shouldn't have said it. I'm sorry
for being a truth teller. Speak truth to power. El Greg says the
reason why Michael likes Rising Before remixed so much is because he liked the original
but never knew how to get the disc out of the GameCube. To everybody,
it's fucking your bunch of fucking cuties over there. Do you want to
pick the game next time so you have a better chance of winning? Or
what game I don't know the game that we play on this show. You
want to play? Give me help you out with your streak here. No,
I'm just gonna lose forever. No, we're just gonna We're gonna go
back. We do two thousand and five. Well, next week you're name
in here about to figure out who I'm doing a show. I'll be your
decides. I just want to never mind. Yes, lasts next week,
let me recover. Sure, that's good. Figure, do you think we're
gonna recover? It's gonna be relaxing having all these kids yell at us about
Battlefront two? Is that two thousand and six? No, I'm good.
No, it's twousand and five, and I'm gonna get so much pleasure telling
them about how, of course there are at least five games better than battle
and fiving. I can't wait. What is what the hell is wrong with
you? Tell people where they can find you on the internet, what you
have going on? All that good stuff? Please check out games Beat GamesBeat
dot com and he has our Journey to Your Imagination episode up, so please
check that one out, and then you have a major Mitch been a lot
of fun. Check check that out new demo Derby. We did with Dan
also this week, so we've been having some fun at Giant Bum. I
think I'm gonna be on Professional Body tomorrow without you because you'll be gone.
Yep, yep. It definitely helped help the Help those guys out want to
say this pay day three? Maybe maybe just tell them I pay day three
doesn't work. I would like to see some Assassin's Cream, Mirage or Forts
or whatever. Have someone we'll see. Yeah, help them some random game
games. Yeah that works too. I'm going on vacation everybody, so I'll
see you next week. I have a good one. Take care of yourself
and goodbye. Good boat Bloodborn. That is the vibe. All right,
mainstream penetration here, okay, mainstream penetration, good ship, all right,
all right, all right, all right, game to you. Maggie mag
Massive Action Gaming. No, what wasn't he? Actually? Is that stupidest
name ever or the best name ever? Because you just knew it inherently?
Yes, that's a good somebody said, Maggie kicked ass. No, No
I didn't. I never played MAG and I regret not playing anybody demo.
Remember it ran out like twenty phrase per second and was so good I think
I don't remember. That's a shame. All right, let's let's get back
into it, all right. Okay, so what kind of game? Horror?
Horror? I'm not like, fuck, yes, like and horror.
I always try to emphasize the horror, and it always comes to that horror.
Yeah, making pronunciations. So my only issue is that it's more Halloween
because we're doing spooky gas too. Okay, that's right, Okay, is
it it's spooky games, just spook say halloween games, Just say halloween games.
Okay, great, I go what the fucke that covers the whole job
that calls all the different branches to do? What is this? Jeff dude?
Okay, okay, I'm gonna take my head ons off. Now let's
just say Spoopy. We'll pretend like we're those people. Still. Yeah,
I've got done the full circle on spooky of like liking it then also in
thinking it was cringe, but now thinking the people who think it's cringes are
cringe. So I just don't even think about it anymore. I think I'm
just Spoopy was never good. Spooky is good, but Spoopy was always trying
to kind of good The problem is Spoopy is cozy, and we're not about
cozy around here. Apparently it's fairly not. It's a spooky it's a spooky
month around here. Yes, well, yes, I'm very scary. Okay,
what's going on here? What is this? Jeff? I don't know
what. What's the name of your console? Mike? I'm death Grub sixty
four okay, death the month the mikey before Christmas? Okay, or just
a mic before Christmas? I kiss? Yeah, I took I took the
Christ out of Christmas and made it Xmas. So yeah, I like it.
There's the War on Christmas starting already, everybody. Yeah, all right,
I wanna just get that up there. Hey it just worked. Wow.
Wow, draft that's gonna be fun. Wow, it'll be fun to
do twenty fifteen later because two thousand and five, because that's like not a
very It's like we had a lot of banger years less than five. Of
course, because it's a console lunch here, it's kind of weak. But
you know what came out on two thousand and five, Mike, uh something?
There were still some big games something ball Front too. You know,
he may may have heard of it. Oh, Jesus Christ, the discord
is already getting ready to riot. Ready, Yeah, okay, sure,
all right, I think I am good. I just gotta change the scene.
You can't, God us ready for this game over here? Uh no,
but I'll kid that's ready for that right now? Is what I meant
to say. I will fuck you up. I'm gonna fuck you up.
Manga man oh m hm boom boom. I'm glad. That's the song of
the day. Now you all gets sufferer with me. Mike Minadi, Mike,
Mike Minadi, Yes, yes, a whoa holy ship? Yeah?
Oh dang, thank you, dang. Okay, well wow, thank you.
Okay, we'll get that dog that was worse. That about to be
like what Christian I think you do. We'll lead with that. We're gonna
lead with that weekend beck, thank you. I guess super chip we've ever
gotten geez? Yeah, it's up there, it's up there. Okay,
wait all right, I'm covered the that's it. Somebody wants to strip tomorrow.
Uh okay, doak, let's bring it back in everyone ready, I
was ready perfect boom boom, boom bo boom. That's right. I'm a
little surprised, you know, and like at least not not like familiar with
Outlasts at least like in passing. I mean, yeah, I don't know.
That was definitely the time when Mike would not have been paying attention to
horror games at all. Right, Well, it's just like because when people
talked about Reside, they're like, oh, it's like Outlast and Abnetia.
Those are like that. They want to look at me. I think out
Last this is the one I was playing. You tried out for a bit,
Flashlight and Outlast, right, probably I never played I'm not I'm not
a horror game guy. Horror higher. Yes, this seems like the Yeah,
I played this a little bit. It was okay, uh h oh
in the remote mountains of Colorado, and now I gotta play it. Your
favorite area normally the rural duror the horror rural duror. Yeah, flashlights the
main thing for your camera. Okay, okay, yeah, that sounds familiar.
It's fatal Frame still a thing. There was a Fatal Frame game for
we you. Yeah, that's the one that got part to the switch not
too long ago. Okay, I think that was the one. It was
either there the Wei ones. I like people like those games. Yeah,
people like Fatal Frames makes me think of what is the fa fim fatale games?
The ones from with the lesbians. Oh yeah, fatal Frame that's what
That's what I'm saying. That's what reminds me. It has f f right,
what is it? Yeah? Similar ship fear fear effect. Thank you,
Dougman. Okay, straphics like even watch you play the game like that
game does look good. I don't know much fun it is, but it
looks really good. It's just like a solo game and you know, holds
up, holds up absolutely All right, let's get back into it. Yeah,
actually about that. Let me should fix this first. Do that Carroll?
Yeah, yeah, kill the stream Yeah, that she would help.
Bom boom boom. I'll start again the thread up for the voting too.
We trimmed this off, so that's good. Now we just go get Mikey
back in there and then we'll be ready to rumble. I'm sure he likes
this set up. Mhmm uh oh, now how to de lead that one?
Sorry for I want I want to reminders remember remember one? Oh?
Sorry, my brain already Okay, let's uh let's do it now. Everyone
ready again? Yeah, I invite to do a coin flip because I don't
think I know who won last time or anything. It's so yeah, uh,
I'll let you go first. I don't want your pity. I have
a twenty. I'll do it. I'll take care of it. If you
va for a second, I could take a look. I got at it.
I know I'm gonna just okay for sure,