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It's the Internet. You're busy,
let's do this. Welcome to the Game

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mess Asides podcast. This is the
podcast where we decide everything about the world

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of games, so you never have
to think for yourself. I'm your host,

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Jeff Grubb, and with me is
Mike Manati. In today's episode,

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gaming seems to be falling apart at
the seams, and the last of us

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factions is on ice. But first, Mikey, how are you doing?

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Okay, it's a weird little rainstorm
rolled by, kind of a little pleasant.

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Although I had shut my window.
Turns out that, yeah, they'll

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see, there is a problem with
your whole windows strategy, Jeff. Sometimes

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as it's rainy, sometimes there's water
outside and I don't want the water inside.

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You're you're right, You're right.
This is the flaw is in my

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designs. And I'll think of something
for you. Mike. I'll come up

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with another idea. Cancel your vacation, just work. I'll get back in

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the lab and see what I can
come up with. Yeah, I find

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most of the time windows open in
a rainstorm, like most of the time

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it's fine, but occasionally you'll get
like the sideways rain or the one side

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things to get more rain in it
or whatever. Right, Fine, I

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just because podcasting and those streaming is
and get a lot of stuff in there.

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Yeah. Yeah, you want to
be carried and the ways is all

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I was really worried about. I
guess I probably wentn't hear it. I

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don't know. It's all right,
It's yeah. Listen, people come here

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for the for the perfect audio of
this podcast. That's what they like about

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us so much. Mike. I'm
heading out of town here pretty soon.

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I'm I'm excited about it. Yeah, you're doing a very unmikey vacation.

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Go into the woods or something.
Go into the woods, go into a

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treehouse. Yeah. Yeah, we're
gonna do some hiking. That's the whole

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thing. Yeah, it's like that. Are the kids really gonna like hiking?

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Or do you think they're gonna get
from Colorado? Right? For a

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while, we spotted some pretty easy
trails. They'll like hiking for a little

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bit, and then they'll get whiny, and then I'll be carrying two children.

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So fine, you have fun with
that. Careful. You know there's

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bears outside listen. Yeah, of
course, if I'm outside, then I'll

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scare them away. Mike it'll be
fine. I'll make loud noises, armpit

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sounds and stuff. You are a
bear, it'll be fine. Yeah,

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it'll be all right. I do
want Like when we were in Colorado,

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it was like, no, mountain
lions actually definitely are out here, and

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those who can't just scare away like
those they don't care. They will just

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eat they'll eat your kids. I
saw a video of a guy having a

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scary encounter with a mountain lion.
He kind of had to just like.

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The mountain lion basically just backed him
off for like a mile as he kind

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of backed away and swore and was
scared for a while. Eventually threw a

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rock at it. And that's scared
away pretty good. So yeah, maybe

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try that throw a rock at a
mountain lion. I throw rocks at just

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about anything I see that moves.
So then yeah, no, no,

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no problem there. Uh yeah,
but I don't know. How are you

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feeling otherwise? You got a good
Yeah? Tired? It's just is it

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the mental thing of being like you
knowing that does see pat machines coming.

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Still, It's been a busy week
also, right, been doing a lot

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a lot of work, a lot
of stuff. Giant bomb, which it's

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fine. Uh, I feel better
today. Yesterday was yesterday. It was

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pretty tired that a lot yesterday,
But I feel pretty good. The weekend

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is actually here. I think it's
gonna be relatively chill weekend, so I'm

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looking forward to that at least.
Uh. Yeah, you know, play

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some more games this weekend. Maybe
do a little bit of cleaning around the

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house, but mostly when I you
know, still really enjoying Borders Gate.

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We'll talk about that more. A
couple other games. I probably should do

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some living room gaming this weekend.
Right, there's some PlayStation five stuff I

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really need to be playing and I
should be getting on that. Yeah,

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I kind of well, I have
the ally I might stream some games from

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my PS five on gone that that
should be able to do that. I

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have some stuff on like NHL.
I'll want to be playing that stuff,

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but I wish I could just get
NHL on Native on the thing. Yeah,

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we'll talk about all that, but
because I got the trip coming up,

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I'm like, we'll just get through
this episode. Let's make it happen

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When do we have to do another Columbos

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follow us time later next week.
When you're back next Thursday, will do

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one cool? Maybe I watch the
family. I'll make the family watch a

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Colombo at h that'll be fun.
Children love murder. Yeah, absolutely,

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that'll be cozy and nice. I
wonder what the most child friendly episode of

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Columbo is. Maybe we can start
start that ranking for everybody. Yeah,

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that's a good question, because I
mean it's kind of an element of murder

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and at least all of them,
Yes, a little bit of murder,

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just to spice things up each and
every episode, Mike. An even better

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question is what the fuck is going
on with gaming? As layoffs and uncertainty

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seems to be taking hold despite a
overall very healthy marketplace for video games.

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What's happening? I don't know.
Everyone's freaking out. It's like it's weird

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house. We're so obsessed with trends, Jeff that even when a trend is

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bad, people can't seem to help
but want to follow it. It's like,

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oh, people are laying everyone off. We should lay people off too.

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I guess I don't know. You're
good to tell me what is going

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on? Well, okay, let's
go through this list here. Naughty Dog

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cut contract jobs all unionized, Dragon
Age, Dreadwolf QA workers laid off from

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BioWare. EA isn't giving full severance
pay to laid off BioWare employees. Creative

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Assembly is laying people off after Sega
canceled its biggest project ever, Hyena's biggest

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project in terms of budget at the
very least, Boomerang X Studio Dang is

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closing down. Twitch had another round
of layoffs, now as big as its

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last one, but another round of
layoffs. Epic laidoff eight hundred and thirty

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people. Team seventeen is cutting jobs. And Telltale just tonight with the report

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is that they cut some jobs as
well. And I think the Telltale comment

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which I saw him passing, but
it correct me if I'm wrong. In

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chat, I think they said they're
still putting out, they're still working on

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the Wolf among us two. Due
to market conditions, they have to cut

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jobs, and I think it kind
of I mean, okay, here's the

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reality. Is market conditions? Well, I think it's so. It's interest

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rates going up like this. This
is the effect of that. This is

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what. This is the thing that's
supposed to happen. When you raise interest

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rates over and over and over again, you're supposed to frighten these companies a

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little bit. And it's supposed to
cool down the labor market, and it's

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supposed to make companies think twice about
hiring and all this stuff, and it

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seems like that reality has now come
to gaming, and it's coming to gaming

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pretty hard. I think most of
these companies were thinking, can we weather

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this? Can we weather this?
Can we weather this? And this being

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it's hard to borrow money? Like
that's really what this all is. It's

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just difficult to borrow money right now. And whether that means they want to

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borrow money or they want to get
investments from big investment investors who also think

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about borrowing money themselves to fund their
efforts, either way, getting a hold

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of capital is much more difficult right
now. And a lot of these companies

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have used borrowing money to pay their
employees for a very long time. That's

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a normal thing. Now it is
a bit out of the question because borrowing

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money very expensive. So I think
these companies are like looking around being like,

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Okay, we tried to weather it, and yeah, maybe we're coming

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on the other end of increased interest
rates. But there's no sign that interest

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rates are going to come back down
anytime soon. And so the healthy market

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for selling video games is one thing. The healthy market for feeling confident about

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making games is it seems like another. And all these companies are instead of

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you know, maybe pulling back in
other areas, the easiest thing for them

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to do is to get rid of
a bunch of people. And it sucks.

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It's it is still a bit silly, because again, if you can

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make a game, if you can
get a game out there, it's probably

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there's a good chance it's going to
do well because people are buying a lot

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of video games. But they are
I think they're just too frightened to believe

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in that, And so here we
are. It feels like a constant onslaught

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right now. Mike, I don't
know what else to say. Yeah,

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it just feels like it's really kind
of beating us all down. I mean,

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in the case of Telltale, do
you think the Expanse that you think

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that did well at all? I
don't know it's it is it fully out

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or all episodes out for the Expanse, I'm not sure what the release schedule

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was, Like, I know at
least some episodes of that are I wonder.

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I think I just saw like I
was like on YouTube earlier today and

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I saw someone had a live podcast
going and I thought they mentioned the Expanse

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and there so maybe like a new
episode just came out or something, or

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maybe they were talking about this news, but I thought it was before this

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news break broke. Yeah, I
don't know, Like for a studio like

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Telltale, that was always a weird
one because that's not really even Telltale,

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right, it's the ghost, the
zombie shambling body of Telltale. Yeah,

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just like cut there's that, and
then there's that company that also had former

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tail Tale people. They had in
that game might have more for like actual

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Telltale people there than it's at this. I mean, I don't know,

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I don't know the legacy. I
used to know that this is something that

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like got reanimated after Telltale collapsed the
first time. But yeah, I mean

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I think we saw this. I
mean we go back to the Dang Studio,

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Dang Boomerang Max good game, things
like hey, we're trying to get

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investment out there and it's and no
one's no one's biting. That is kind

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of the whole story here. Uh, for a lot of these studios,

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for uh companies like Naughty Dog,
I think that comes to uh, you

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know, there's a lot of things
going on there, but I think it's

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mostly hey, if anyone can make
if you can make cuts, make cuts,

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and I think these companies are like
these QA departments keep organizing. Maybe

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it'd be easy if we just cut
them and think about doing things a different

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way. Uh. And and you
know, there's a I'm sure there's plenty

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of quality assurance houses out there that
you can contract that aren't organized, that

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aren't unionizing, and you're like,
well, we'll just take a little break

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and then maybe we'll go work with
one of them instead. So, uh,

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it's it's miserable. It's what it
is. I cover this news every

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day, Mike, you do too. It's it's just it's NonStop, and

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you feel start to feel like,
man, what are we doing here?

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Uh, it's hard to feel good
about it. It's weird because like,

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it's good. It's one of the
best years ever in terms of quality of

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releases and just the quantity of releases
too. Even so, it's just the

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baffling that you have that on one
And you know, part of it is

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that the industry is so big and
maybe what's great for one company isn't so

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great for another one. But yeah, it just it doesn't really seem to

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add up. It seems like the
game industry should be better than ever,

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and like why it just seems like
an unrelenting stockpile, right, these layoffs,

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Like you know, I think that
if you were to go ask someone

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like, what's the way this system
should work? Right, it's like,

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well, you take a risk,
you go, you make a product,

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and if that product sells well,
you're rewarded by the market, and now

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you can invest and reinvest in your
company and try again and do something bigger

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next time. And we look around
like, well, yeah, that sounds

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good. It doesn't seem like we're
anywhere I look. It doesn't seem like

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that's the way it actually functions.
It seems like it is. There's a

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disconnect from the performance of the market
and the rewards there there within. It's

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like like they are worried about future
uncertainties and that's what it actually defines what

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happens, and the money that is
coming in from all these successes, uh

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disappears somewhere, likely into some executive's
pocket, and it's uh, okay,

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that's that sucks. That just that
really makes me miserable. So it's again

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it's like I'm really happy we got
a lot of great games this year.

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I like playing video games a lot, but this, this constant parade of

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bad news for developers, is it? You know, Yeah, we're we're

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at high tide right now. Low
tide seems like it's going to be coming

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really soon with games in the next
couple year. We're probably going to pay

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for what's happening right now with and
people a gonna look, aroun why don't

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developers make good games? Well,
what it's like, what's what's happening in

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twenty twenty three. It has nothing
to do with us. We're buying the

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games, and yet these companies are
still bailing out on us. Foot with

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your wallet right and all that.
Right, Well, yeah, exactly,

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vote with your wallet not now,
that's nothing to do with what with reality?

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So yeah, it's uh, it's
frustrating. I don't like what is

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the answer, Like I if we're
with we were in charge of these companies.

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I mean I always said, hey, I like a company that believes

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in making video games. A lot
of a lot of publishers and studios are

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out there living that sort of motto, and they're cutting jobs too, and

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they're there they seem that like they're
in the grip of uncertainty as well.

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So I don't really know what the
answer is. Obviously, it's not put

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all your money into live service because
that's not work really for anybody. No,

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it's been a bad year for Life
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Right, So now at he's got
to wait another month for the at Peter

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Mullin, who's Web three game to
come and see, Yeah, that's true.

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That's probably gonna save us all the
business Web three business sim that's what

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we need, all right. The
other side of this news, the Last

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of Us Factions is on ice.
I think we kind of understood that this

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was the case, but to hear
the reporting kind of confirm that that.

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It's like, hey, they went
back to the drawing board or a bungee

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came in and said, hey,
this multiplayer version of the Last of Us

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that you're working on, that you've
done a really good job with before.

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People really like those other factions,
those other uncharted multiplayer games. In the

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last of a multiplayer game, in
the last game, they enjoyed playing it,

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but as a Life service game,
bunch he came in and said,

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this isn't going to work. And
then the answer to that was like,

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okay, well let's just go put
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and nothing nothing after that. For
me, I would be like, Okay,

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at least put it out there,
give people a chance. But I

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mean, is that how you see
it? Do you think that's worth it?

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this for something else. It's a
little weird. I don't know what do

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your purpose it as. It's hard
to know without really even understanding what this

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was, right, Jeff, I
mean, it's just bizarre because Naughty Dog

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has been such a kind of golden
goose. It's weird to see them get

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a black guy like this to have
a failure of any kind. But yeah,

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it's bizarre because fashions is something that
they talked up for a long time.

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I mean, it was supposed to
just be the multiplayer component of Last

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of Us two, then it got
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It's just a bizarre life, and
for this project, this truly is

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the effort. Sorry, just Red
and chat Connor Woods said, Malau will

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be fine. He sold all the
NFTs for that game two years ago at

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the height of the insanity. Boy, that fucking sucks that that's so gross

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that like two years later that game
is going to come out into a world

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where NFTs are all worthless. Yes, it's kind of incredible. It's kind

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of incredible. Oh my god,
Okay, whatever though, Yeah, okay,

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So I think for factions, I
would imagine you can take what they've

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done and you just put the multiplayer
stuff as a mode in the Last of

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US part three, four or five
years from now. Yeah, I guess

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at this point, why not just
why not just hold on to that and

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just wait? But I wonder I
say that, like, it's it's not

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that easy. Like obviously it's not
that easy. You can't just you would

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need someone actively working on that stuff
alongside to make sure that that it doesn't

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because you know, there's entropy and
development and tools move on, and software

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moves on, and all this stuff
moves on, and you can't be like,

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well, we finished most of that
stuff a long time ago. Now

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let's just bring it all in right
now. I like, well, no

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one, the people that had the
keys to that kingdom have mostly moved on

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to other projects or left Naughty Dog
entirely. So I mean, for the

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next several years, you would need
least some team operating on this stuff,

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and I don't know, it doesn't
sound like that's in the process. It

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mostly it sounds like they're abandoned in
this thing. Now the reporting is on

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ice, not canceled, but definitely
on ice. Make a demolition man.

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It's still if they want to,
right exactly, It's just I don't know

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what thaws it out, what forces
them to bring it out. Yeah,

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kind of a weird thing to just
like, well, okay, no one's

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going to work on this whole thing
for a bit, and this said they

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were just going to bring it out
and like all right, like nothing happened,

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like you're going to start from scratch
basically whenever you unthow it, I

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would feel like, I don't know. I think so too. I agree

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with your assessment that this it's weird
to see Naughty Dog take a bit of

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a chink in the armor here.
It's a studio that felt like it could

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do no wrong for a very very
very long time because it wasn't it had

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done no wrong, And now even
this, it's like, is this so

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wrong or is it just like,
wells is this the protection from the wrong?

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Right? Was that would the wrong
have been this game coming out?

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And even if it was like another
Halo Infinite, right, that would have

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not been great. Maybe they spared
themselves. That part of the problem though,

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is that like, this is supposed
to be the strategy for Sonny as

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all these life service games, and
you would I guess I always assumed that

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factions was kind of like the standard
bearer for that. It's kind of the

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flagship. Yeah, that's not even
happening this one if this one doesn't work.

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why this wasn't working that I've heard

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it is that that Naughty Dog was
going to The gameplay was fine, it's

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just all of the monetization and the
progression, all that stuff around the edges

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was done in a way that would
not have been great for any live service

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game. And when it seems like
when Bungie saw that, they were like,

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yeah, it would You're gonna have
to basically rework all of this and

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that is a lot of work because
we just wouldn't give a green light to

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this and say, okay, well
that's that seems like I guess that seems

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like a problem that would definitely be
the kind of thing that would lead to

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a Halo Infinite like situation. I
think where people are not playing it the

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way they need to be playing to
justify this entire process. So yeah,

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I don't know. I just don't
know it. Like where does Doughty?

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Where does Naughty Dog go? But
Sony itself, like it's got to these

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ten eleven other live service games,
maybe twelve. Maybe they were never counting

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this as one of those, but
I think at least ten or eleven other

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live service games. If this game
wasn't gonna work, what do they have

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in the hopper that's they that they
believe in so hard? Or do they

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have anything the hopper that they actually
believe in? Is that why Jim Ryan

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left? I mean, I don't
Again, we don't know, but Twisted

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Metal something something. It's still weird
to me. We had that Twisted Metal

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show, a Twisted Metal game,
and there wasn't one announced, like they

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were making one. Now, yeah, they were making one, okay,

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But I don't know. I do
wonder what's up. But Naughty Dog,

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though in a bigger philosophical sense,
because of course there's still more juice to

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squeeze out of the last of us
fruit. But disgusting analogy, I know,

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But like they've got to be thinking
about what's next, right, Yeah,

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I mean I think they definitely definitely
do a Last US part three.

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They've already kind of said that that's
something that they have written. And the

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Last of US machine. With Hollywood
stuff now happening, it's too big to

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not do. And I think they
want to do it, but they seem

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to have no interest in doing more
un charted, so they probably will do

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some other project. And what does
that look like? Is that going to

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have to happen? I mean,
at this point today it seems silly to

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have any live service hooks. But
at the same time, well then it's

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going to be another two d and
fifty million dollar project that needs to be

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the biggest thing in the world.
I believe that they can do that.

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That boy, that seemed tough.
They already have the perfect the perfect match

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to feel their the catalog kill son, he's coming back, let's go,

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let's do it. Well, I
don't think Herman Holst is gonna let him

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take his baby. That's fucking Gorilla
games. Yeah, that's Gorilla they got

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they got five Horizon games to make
apparently, uhh yeah, I don't.

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I guess this is some of the
stuff that we were saying at the beginning

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of this generation, it was very
easy and right to feel bullish about Sony's

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prospects at the beginning of the generation. But when like we were looking down

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the barrel of God of War Ragnarok, it's like, hey, they they

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are going to make this game,
and it's definitely going to be a big

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success, and people are probably gonna
like it because I bet it's going to

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be a very good game, uh, and and all this stuff, and

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it's going to be easy to sell. But what happens when they get to

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the third one and it's like more
of the same and the diminishing returns start

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to kick in. Like they're already
on rather thin margins these big, big,

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big games. They can't afford that, so they're gonna have to change

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things up, and that's gonna be
even more expensive and and all these things.

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So it's they have that happening kind
of across the board where it's like,

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you know, we'll see I think
Spider Man two is going to be

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just fine. Spider Man might be
an anomaly, though, like will they

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be able to do that with the
rest of their franchises, Like is Horizon

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just going to keep getting bigger and
bigger and bigger without changing up too much.

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And if they do have to change
it, how expensive and how long

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is that going to take? Like
they have a lot of They're gonna have

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a lot of trouble. I think
continuing this momentum the way they have because

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they are already they already are putting
in as much time and as much money

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and as much effort into these games
as possible. So if it requires more

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time and more money and more effort, where's that gonna come from? Yeah,

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it's like the places are for kind
of things sort of work down a

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way where you have some studios almost
wrapping up their PlayStation three franchises in a

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fun enough way, like you had
Sucker Punch do in Infamous and you know

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you had Rolla Games do with kills
in the beginning and then by the end.

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Though here's their shiny new thing.
Games take so long to make anymore.

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It feels like we're not gonna get
the shiny new things so much.

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We're just gonna get the part twos
of those last things if we're lucky,

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and you will get a Ghost to
Shushima too. I don't know if we're

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gonna get sucker punches next thing,
right, yes, exactly. Yeah,

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it's like all these things are real
problems for a company like PlayStation, and

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so they the solution there, and
it seemed obvious, and I think I

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think I generally agreed with this approach. Make a bunch of live service stuff

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as well. Yeah, why not
have the stuff that can like paste over

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these big releases. The big releases
are these ten poles, but they are

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massive projects that you spend five to
seven years now on and and a lot

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of money, and then people play
them and they're done in a weekend or

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they're done in a couple of weekends, and it's like, you know what,

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you still got their money, and
that people pay a lot of money

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for video games. Seventy dollars is
a lot of money for video games.

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That math mostly works out, but
it's it's what can you do to like

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fill in the gaps between That live
series made sense up until earlier this year,

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and now it doesn't look like it
makes a lot of sense right now,

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right And like the other ways they
tried to plug up their schedule before

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was one like getting marketing deals for
big third party games and maybe still work.

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It's kind of seems like it's falling
the wayside. And their biggest one

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was a Call of Duty. So
oops, yeah, the biggest final fantasy.

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And that's that's worked. That's the
thing. Just marketing. That's like

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an exclusivity deal. Oh sure,
yes, they did that a lot this

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year. And you know, like
for Spoken obviously did nothing. Sixteen it

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probably did okay, did maybe even
good, but I'm not I'm not sure

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there. It is weird because the
whole point of Sony really is like though

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the first party is really strong,
and you know, of course Microsoft's also

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has that problems, had it worse
than summary, but that's never been the

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whole pitch for Xbox. It's that
that's kind of the whole pitch for PlayStation

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is how good the first party games
are and you get like one a year

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or just two. I don't know
if it's enough. Yep, And it's

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uh, you know, they're there
a little bit of a trout right now.

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It's not some extreme problem going to
be fine. I hope this.

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We're not trying to sound like we're
doom and gloom and place. Yeah,

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they'll figure that, they'll figure this
out. But I just think that it's

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like This is an illustration of the
challenges that someone like Jim Ryan would have

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faced, and that there's no obvious
solution to That's that's continues to be the

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theme I think of this year,
where right now things mostly seem good,

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but they are They're good from a
model that made sense for a long time

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and started making less sense as we've
described here so far. I'll think games

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taking longer, be more expensive,
all these things. And now as you

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are as as that process gets wider
and wider between games, it's like,

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okay, now what do we do
when when like, the games have to

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keep getting bigger because the expectations of
the audience are still out there and someone's

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going to keep making a bigger game, and so you have to keep up

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with them. You can't be suddenly
a company that doesn't have the biggest and

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best games, So you have to
keep up with the joneses. You need

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something else, And there is just
no obvious answer to that question. And

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uh, and I think that's why
I most of these companies are like,

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we got to make the most of
what we have. And again I credit

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to Jim Ryan, who mostly who
was like who helped Spearhead and this goes

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to HROARCHI to Tokey as well and
a few others. Uh and the camera

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and the camera name. He's the
guy that was kind of interim in charge

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before Jim Ryan took over. The
PlayStation network services stuff has been a massive

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success, and their subscription stuff has
turned into it's just a money printing mission.

405
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,079
He isn't that the next thing?
Well, how come the subscription stuff,

406
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,279
isn't it? Because that is this
giant source of in came that we

407
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,839
just didn't have before. Well,
I mean, I mean because they they

408
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:41,319
reworked their subscription service and it doesn't
seem like it did much good. That

409
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,240
was that they did make that play. They made that play of all right,

410
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:49,359
here's PlayStation Plus Essentials medium and large
and uh and yeah, like there's

411
00:25:49,559 --> 00:25:52,119
something to it, but everyone's kind
of like, I'm happy with medium and

412
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,480
even that most of the time I
have I own most of these games.

413
00:25:55,519 --> 00:25:57,559
Are I'm buying most of these games
because that's what I'm used to doing on

414
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:03,000
PlayStation And yeah, I think they
are making more money from it, but

415
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,319
they also saw like a decrease in
subscriptions, so it's like they made the

416
00:26:06,319 --> 00:26:08,720
exchange there and it's not like it
got both. So they made their play

417
00:26:08,799 --> 00:26:11,519
and what else can they do in
that space? I don't know. I

418
00:26:11,519 --> 00:26:17,400
guess day, day and date,
but that is also a net that's not

419
00:26:17,559 --> 00:26:18,839
net neutral, or maybe it's net
neutral a little bit where it's like,

420
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,119
okay, yeah, if you do
day and date, you might get more

421
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,720
subscribers, but you might lose more
sales. And they're not sure if they

422
00:26:25,759 --> 00:26:30,200
want to make that bargain with the
devil quite yet. So PlayStation is going

423
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,279
to be fine because they make they
do make good games that people want to

424
00:26:33,279 --> 00:26:36,480
buy, and that's still the key. It's still still a lot of consoles.

425
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:41,680
But the risks that are inherent to
making games are there and continue to

426
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:47,480
be like a threat. And the
way that they were mitigating those risks right

427
00:26:47,519 --> 00:26:49,039
now it was Live service, but
it was for a while. It was

428
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:55,160
the subscription stuff that's that's established now
that's built into their expectations. The risks

429
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,960
were still coming and there's no answer
because Live service just doesn't seem like it's

430
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,319
going to be a solution. Hey, if they get a big Live service

431
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,440
hit, it will be a very
big help. But that seems so even

432
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,880
aken we've been hearing about the strategy
for a while. We don't even know

433
00:27:07,039 --> 00:27:11,279
what that game would be right now, it seems more implausible than ever right

434
00:27:11,279 --> 00:27:15,359
now? Yes, uh, okay
that those are the big topics I wanted

435
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,839
to talk about you with Nike.
Uh. I think what we should do

436
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,799
now is take a break, we'll
get back, we'll talk about the superchats,

437
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,480
and then we'll get into the topic
of this week, which is going

438
00:27:23,559 --> 00:27:27,400
to be a horror game console draft. Yes, so stick around llween,

439
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,279
We'll be right back after this,
everybody, and we're back. Mike,

440
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,000
there's a bunch of super chats.
Can you start reading those for me right

441
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:41,000
now? Please? Okay, Big
Fresh thirty seven says, was Metal Slug

442
00:27:41,039 --> 00:27:44,480
Tactics a mass delusion? Or what? Oh yeah, what happened to that?

443
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,839
What was the game again? I'm
sorry? What was it? Metal

444
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:52,200
Slug Tactics? Oh yeah, man, mass illusion. I'm gonna say it

445
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,400
was a mass illusion. We all
made that up. That can't be real.

446
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,079
Ep Idiot boxes can't watch live.
I want to pop in and give

447
00:27:57,079 --> 00:28:00,720
you each a kissing the cheek.
Sorry, my lips are dry. Keep

448
00:28:00,799 --> 00:28:03,640
up the good word, come you
know, thanks, Thank you so much,

449
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,839
idiot box. I appreciate it.
Bubbsy says, father, why have

450
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,920
you forsaken me? I think he's
talking about talking to you, gro I

451
00:28:10,079 --> 00:28:12,119
know. I think he means you. Okay, I can't mean me.

452
00:28:12,599 --> 00:28:15,799
I never loved you. I renounce
you. I renounced you, Bubbsy,

453
00:28:15,839 --> 00:28:19,519
I renounce you. Adam GC with
a generous first super ted here, thank

454
00:28:19,519 --> 00:28:22,319
you so much, Adam says,
help. I bought the star Fiel control

455
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,119
after you two raved about it,
and now I can't stand the game,

456
00:28:26,759 --> 00:28:29,200
said, I force myself to play, so I don't feel like a complete

457
00:28:29,279 --> 00:28:32,480
fraud. Please release me from my
agony. Hey, look, welcome to

458
00:28:32,559 --> 00:28:37,839
the club. I got all right. The controller still great. The controller

459
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,400
still looks good, by far,
their best controller. It's too bad that

460
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,559
when they make like you know,
they didn't make a high five rust controller

461
00:28:44,559 --> 00:28:47,000
that looks good. I would get
that instead, but this is what I

462
00:28:47,039 --> 00:28:52,559
got. I'm sorry. It's listen, sell the controller. If it's hurting

463
00:28:52,599 --> 00:28:55,920
you, sell it. But also
you can have the controller without liking the

464
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,200
game. It's fine. I understand. I understand what he means, though

465
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,599
I would feel this way as well. I was a little bird about it.

466
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,279
Yes, I am not a complete
fraud. I was like, oh,

467
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,759
used this anytime I'm in my ship. I'm in my ship for like

468
00:29:07,839 --> 00:29:11,279
five, like five seconds at a
time, so it's like pick this up,

469
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,759
put it down. I feel stupid
and I'm like, I should have

470
00:29:14,799 --> 00:29:18,839
just done it. I must And
keyboard also, yeah, well the flying

471
00:29:18,839 --> 00:29:21,839
the ship of Mosk keyboard is not
great. It's it's not You're right,

472
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,119
that's that's true for any ship.
And then again that's the starfield. You're

473
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,200
not like some bad example of that. You can have that one. There

474
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,680
you go. I'm sol is just
to play first person sure with controller.

475
00:29:30,759 --> 00:29:41,559
I'm just saying, oh, criminals
today. And that's double leaderboards. Baby

476
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,279
Michael Michael O'Leary says, Universal's Epic
Universe. What her name, that's the

477
00:29:48,359 --> 00:29:51,799
name. This is the third theme
park. Yes, it's very, it's

478
00:29:51,799 --> 00:29:56,039
a very, it's such a boardroom
name. It's started early testing on ride

479
00:29:56,119 --> 00:30:00,640
vehicles, including the Donkey Kong min
Cart roller coaster. Y'all going to put

480
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,559
in for press coverage this time around
for early access. Yeah, well we

481
00:30:03,599 --> 00:30:07,079
get closer, definitely, got got
maybe an in there, so hopefully we

482
00:30:07,119 --> 00:30:11,279
can do something with Epic Universe when
that does come around. Because that's where

483
00:30:11,519 --> 00:30:15,039
the ten Dy World is going to
be opening. What's the big timeline on

484
00:30:15,079 --> 00:30:18,039
all this again, Mike twenty twenty
five, I think not So what does

485
00:30:18,039 --> 00:30:23,720
this mean early testing? Well,
there's all you know there they are having

486
00:30:25,079 --> 00:30:27,200
vehicles move on the tracks because they
have to test that like crazy, So

487
00:30:27,319 --> 00:30:30,640
okay, so like that's what I'm
I guess that's what I'm asking. So

488
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,640
they they've cleared the land, they
started building stuff up, and now they

489
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,000
have like the bones of the track. There's a lot of Yeah, there's

490
00:30:37,039 --> 00:30:40,480
a lot up. There's a lot
of ride tracks are just shap bill,

491
00:30:40,599 --> 00:30:44,519
especially roller coasters. Those can go
pretty pretty fast. So like there's a

492
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,039
giant just I don't even know what
the theme is like dueling coaster in the

493
00:30:48,079 --> 00:30:49,720
middle of the park and that track
is all there. I think there's a

494
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,640
how to Train Your Dragon coaster that's
also been built up. Maybe that's the

495
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,359
same thing. I don't know,
but yes, the track for the Donkey

496
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,519
Kong coaster has already been built and
I think just recently didn't notice that the

497
00:31:00,599 --> 00:31:03,359
carts are actually on the track.
Now, Okay, very cool. I'm

498
00:31:03,359 --> 00:31:07,440
excited. Theme Parks Stop I believe
has a video on all this, everybody.

499
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,240
If you want to see more on
that, I do propaganda. Panda

500
00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:15,720
says, stop being a baby.
Jeff and beach resident will for remake.

501
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,200
Yep, that was five bucks.
Thank you for the five bucks. All

502
00:31:19,279 --> 00:31:22,839
right, since you spent money,
I'll go ahead and beat it absolutely,

503
00:31:22,119 --> 00:31:26,160
but only because you asked, Panda. Mike, you skipped a couple.

504
00:31:26,599 --> 00:31:29,400
I noticed some worry. I'm on
it all right, Roger, so Jesus.

505
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,000
Jeff claims he's just going on vacation, but we all know it's actually

506
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:36,200
a bereevement leave to mourn our boy
Jimbo Ryan. I mean I don't see

507
00:31:36,279 --> 00:31:38,519
him in chat today. It must
be right. Yeah, he's he went

508
00:31:38,559 --> 00:31:44,960
ahead of me. We're gonna spend
a nice quiet weekend together. Next one

509
00:31:45,079 --> 00:31:48,240
is oh yeah, Sumi Mex.
He says, love to see Jeff wearing

510
00:31:48,279 --> 00:31:52,079
that great shirt that was on the
eddy recently. What are some of your

511
00:31:52,119 --> 00:31:56,759
favorite video game related tease purchased this
year? What is that? Jeff?

512
00:31:56,599 --> 00:32:00,759
Jeff, It's a heart, and
then it's a a planet around it,

513
00:32:01,039 --> 00:32:07,920
and then standing on the planet holding
hands. Is Kirby Toad, one of

514
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,839
the cats from Animal Crossing. I
think that's ness Ham too, Pickman,

515
00:32:14,279 --> 00:32:16,799
all the Kawhi characters, yes,
yes, exactly, Diddy Kong and Shy

516
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:25,319
Guyan. Can you opid that again, Mike Kawaii perfect you welcome, h

517
00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:30,160
I got I got a couple.
I got a couple of good mallow T

518
00:32:30,319 --> 00:32:34,519
shirts on YETI this year. Those
Yeah, I got one of those mallow

519
00:32:34,519 --> 00:32:37,599
t shirts and I was pretty happy
with it. That's got that like a

520
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,640
Metroid save the Animal shirt. That
is so you're telling me you get these

521
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,960
shirts in the yetti, you washed
them, put them in the dryer and

522
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,279
they never start the chip. I
haven't had it happen with mine, I

523
00:32:47,319 --> 00:32:52,440
don't think, so, Okay,
maybe hit me up with your settings on

524
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:53,640
your dryer and let me know.
I've been doing cold water. I know

525
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:58,720
that lately cold water. I changed
the cold waterwise I was just default ship.

526
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,119
I think. All right, Okay, I don't know. I got

527
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,920
fucking T shirts like drying right over
there right now because I'm sick of it.

528
00:33:06,599 --> 00:33:12,160
You tell you you got your lineup
now? Yeah, it's this one.

529
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,759
Here's from did I catch you?
Yeah, Willow Davis. He says,

530
00:33:14,799 --> 00:33:19,279
Hey, Mike Precision Drummer and Jeff
Obligatory bassis. Did you play Guitar

531
00:33:19,319 --> 00:33:22,359
Hero back in the day, didn't
inspire to try out an instrument forget about

532
00:33:22,359 --> 00:33:27,279
Guitar Hero. I was playing Guitar
Freaks. I first found it at the

533
00:33:27,319 --> 00:33:32,160
Columbus game freaking game work game excuse
me conflated there, and then I bought

534
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:37,480
the PlayStation version that I had to
import and played that for a while.

535
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:38,640
So yeah, when Guitar Hero came, I was like, oh cool,

536
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,480
wow, like a lesser version of
Guitar Freaks. So yeah, I did

537
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,960
play Guitar Hero for a good while. I did a enjoyed for a bit.

538
00:33:46,039 --> 00:33:50,720
At some point I was like less
interested in it, and my brother

539
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,799
was really into it, and basically
if I played it because he begged me

540
00:33:52,839 --> 00:33:55,920
to, I enjoyed it and I
didn't. I never was like, oh,

541
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,400
need to play guitar now or anything
like that. Didn't really care.

542
00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:04,079
Yeah, I also saw that.
I remember seeing the Guitar Freaks game and

543
00:34:04,119 --> 00:34:08,239
being I had heard about these instrument
based arcade games for a really long time

544
00:34:08,519 --> 00:34:12,119
out of Japan, and so seeing
that I was like, oh my god.

545
00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:15,639
And then I tried it out,
and then obviously, once Katario started

546
00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:20,000
happening, I got super into it. I played saxophone before that, so

547
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,639
I didn't need to like get into
an instrument. Baba is Me says best

548
00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:27,760
game in nineteen eighty one, Wizardry. I'm very excited to re experience it

549
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,280
with a makeover from Digital Clips.
PS. Enjoy your well deserved vacation,

550
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:35,679
Jeff, Yeah, are you going
to check out that Wizardry remake? Hang

551
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,760
on, Mike, can you vamp
for a second. Yes, I am

552
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,639
going to vamp it up like crazy
because I want to check out the Wizardry

553
00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:45,559
remake. Wizardry is it's spot that's
like one of the first major actual video

554
00:34:45,639 --> 00:34:50,880
game RPGs. I know that Final
Fans as a Dragon Quest anyways, I

555
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,079
think both Dragon Quess and Final Fantasy
were inspired by Wizardry, right, and

556
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:59,400
from Wizardry you get stuff like Ultima
and a lot of those other old PC

557
00:35:00,159 --> 00:35:04,679
rpg dungeon crawlers. So definitely,
I kind of want to check it out.

558
00:35:04,679 --> 00:35:07,039
I don't know how much I'll actually
enjoy it, to be honest,

559
00:35:07,079 --> 00:35:09,400
but I want to try it.
Yeah, I'm interested to see it myself.

560
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,960
It is being done by other the
Digital Clips right, that's right,

561
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,039
Digital Clips. Okay, So yeah, I'm at a point with them where

562
00:35:16,039 --> 00:35:20,880
I'm going to try anything they put
out because the labor of love aspect is

563
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,639
really important to me, and I
like, honestly, I mean, Drew

564
00:35:22,679 --> 00:35:29,559
Scanlon's there, and Chris Kohler is
there, and Mike Micah is obviously,

565
00:35:29,679 --> 00:35:30,280
you know, Mike. Mike is
the one. I think, Mike,

566
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:36,039
have you ever seen his basement?
I'm not sure. I don't know where

567
00:35:36,039 --> 00:35:38,320
this video is. If anyone has
it anywhere, send it over to us.

568
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,679
But in his office there's a hatch
and you open up the hatch and

569
00:35:42,679 --> 00:35:46,000
you go in his basement. And
this is like the mecha of collectibles of

570
00:35:46,119 --> 00:35:50,679
all these amazing, amazing things that
he has down there. It's just really

571
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,599
cool. And so these guys,
anytime they decide like something's valuable to them,

572
00:35:54,119 --> 00:35:57,519
I decided it's valuable to me,
So yeah, I'll check out Wizardry

573
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,280
Alex. Its sad to hear this
about factions and so soon after Last of

574
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,760
US Day. That'd be funny if
on Last of Us Day they announced,

575
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,199
yeah, by the way, we
can't sold faction. Yeah, hilarious.

576
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:13,880
Uh. We took a golf club
to it little late on a little late

577
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,320
on it, Kroudchig Boomer Hidden Zoomer
says the modhole is more like a mod

578
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:23,719
saloon door to I mean. L
Grugs says, what is Jeff's favorite grub

579
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:28,639
of the week. Uh, it's
my wife's birthday, so she's my favorite

580
00:36:28,639 --> 00:36:32,000
gub this. Yeah, there you
go. And Tendrek says, why doesn't

581
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:37,199
Sony just take whatever drugs Insomniac seems
to be on and give it to all

582
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:43,400
their studios Bee to four games and
one h Jen seems impossible, seems possible

583
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,199
for Somnia. Okay, let's let's
like just a little bit of perspective here,

584
00:36:46,199 --> 00:36:50,360
though, No in Insomniac game is
really playing for Game of the Year,

585
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,599
not even Spider Man, not Miles
Morales that games Chick should have.

586
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:59,920
Yes, you're right, I agree, but but but they are not doing

587
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,000
like even Rochrid Clakes, not doing
the stuff required to get Game of the

588
00:37:04,119 --> 00:37:07,400
Year. Okay, but like the
Spidery games are doing. The sales is

589
00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:12,960
still like I listen, I think
that they should be doing more stuff like

590
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,519
Insomniac. But I think it's important, or at least was important to Sony

591
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:21,199
to have I mean, to have
those accolades so yeah, I agree with

592
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,559
you, Mike. I like the
insomnie all of the Insomniac games more than

593
00:37:24,599 --> 00:37:29,360
just about any of the other studio's
outputs. So give me that for sure.

594
00:37:30,679 --> 00:37:34,159
Crouching Boober hen and Sumer says,
what's your favorite hole in the wall

595
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:39,320
bar? Oh? Gosh, I
mean what this has got to be local

596
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,639
stuff shoutouts to Draft House. I
guess, but that was more fun when

597
00:37:43,679 --> 00:37:46,280
I was younger. I don't know
how much I really enjoy hole in the

598
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:52,079
wall bars as I'm older. There's
like I go to a pretty pretentious I

599
00:37:52,119 --> 00:37:55,840
go to like breweries and like beer
outlets. Now probably kind of pretentious and

600
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,679
more quiet, but that's what I
like. Yeah, that's same here,

601
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:05,079
Mom forty and then Bubbsy's back says, Jeff is obviously my father, because

602
00:38:05,079 --> 00:38:07,960
my games never have story. I
thought, true you crash landed on that

603
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:12,320
planet, Bubbsy intro cut scene.
Now you're just a liar. No wonder

604
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,599
your father does atri cut scene.
There was a there was a final cut

605
00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:19,360
scene. There was I think there's
a true ending, a true ending,

606
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,679
and a game for me. I
don't fucking think so, right, Yeah,

607
00:38:22,679 --> 00:38:25,360
we know, but Rift Apart was
nominated for the Key Lees, but

608
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,800
yeah, it was never going to
work. Spider Mare is probably nominated.

609
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,719
But but like I just say,
if you go back and look at that

610
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,119
year, like how many Game of
the Year awards these games are winning and

611
00:38:32,159 --> 00:38:36,480
what it's not many I want to
see see because we're that's it for Supertest

612
00:38:36,519 --> 00:38:37,480
right now. So let's just I'm
gonna look this up real quick. Rift

613
00:38:37,559 --> 00:38:44,039
Up Heart came out, what twenty
twenty one? Okay, uh, what

614
00:38:44,159 --> 00:38:45,119
year with that? Two years ago? What? What? Oh? That's

615
00:38:45,159 --> 00:38:49,800
the It takes two years. It
takes two to one over Yeah, Rift

616
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,719
Apart. Okay, that sounds right. Oh. I like it takes too

617
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,360
I probably would have Rift Apart over
that. I love. I love Rift

618
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,199
Apart. Yeah, the part.
All right, that's it for a Supertest

619
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:00,840
right now. Everybody, if you
said more and we will read them before

620
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:05,000
the end of the show, thank
you so much. All Right, we

621
00:39:05,159 --> 00:39:08,639
are going to make this happen,
but we're just gonna take a quick break.

622
00:39:08,679 --> 00:39:12,000
When we get back, we will
do it. We're doing the Horror

623
00:39:12,039 --> 00:39:19,599
Game console draft. Look out for
that right after this. We're back,

624
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,519
and before we hand the show over
to Sean for a minute, let's hand

625
00:39:23,519 --> 00:39:27,000
the show over to Mike for one
more super chet. Yeah, we just

626
00:39:27,039 --> 00:39:30,480
got a very generous super check from
Doug Mand, who just said, Hey,

627
00:39:30,519 --> 00:39:32,320
guys, just want to let you
know Gay Mess has quickly become one

628
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:37,920
of my favorite shows after discovering you
guys when Jeff joined Giant Bomb. Keep

629
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,199
up the great work again, very
generous. It's for a super chest on

630
00:39:40,199 --> 00:39:44,079
the stream. Thank you so much, Doug Mand, real really appreciate it.

631
00:39:44,079 --> 00:39:47,519
Thank you, Dugan. That's that's
awesome. It's not Doug Mans.

632
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:52,559
That's like your Digimond, Doug Mand, the hug mon the hugs say dougmnd.

633
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:57,239
It's like, uh, it's like
Raymond. Yeah, everybody loves I

634
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,360
agree, you're correct. Oh you
just oh, you were saying you enjoy

635
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:01,679
saying it your way, which I
was like to hear you say it.

636
00:40:01,679 --> 00:40:05,840
I was just making fun of myself
because I'm definitely saying it the wrong way,

637
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,639
like Diamond, like Dougman. Yeah, that makes way more sense.

638
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:12,320
Everybody loves Dougman, So thank you
a getting Doug appreciate it, monsters.

639
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,039
Doug Man is the champion. Let's
hand the show over to Sean for the

640
00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:17,840
show within a podcast. Something like
that. He says it better. I'll

641
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:22,880
let him do it. Everyone's favorite
game show within a podcast closest to The

642
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:27,119
Messy Pin We Got, Volume eighteen. It is presented by me Turbo Shan,

643
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,480
It is powered by metacrec and it
is as always executively produced by Benji

644
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:36,039
bop Kojima. Quick Rundown of the
Rules. The boys will be guessing the

645
00:40:36,079 --> 00:40:40,639
meta crick scores of five games that
are ten years ago or older. The

646
00:40:40,679 --> 00:40:45,280
idea is to get the score exactly
right, but each point devia that they

647
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,840
are they will add one to their
score. If they get exactly right,

648
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,840
they will have five deducted and is
golf rules. At the end, you

649
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:57,519
want the lowest score, So Jeff
one last time. So Mike will be

650
00:40:57,599 --> 00:41:00,360
picking first. Mike, I need
you gotta break you gotta break this loosen

651
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:07,280
streak, Bud, Mike, I
need to tell me what you think.

652
00:41:07,679 --> 00:41:15,119
Yeah, Limbo for the Xbox three
sixty has twenty ten Shut the hell up

653
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,559
eighty nine. Craig reviews, Now
you may speak. Okay, good,

654
00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:23,320
thank you sir. Yeah, people
like Limbo? How much? Eighty nine

655
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:28,920
eighty nine Okay, Yeah, I
think I'm right. In the same range

656
00:41:29,199 --> 00:41:32,960
because I agree people really like Limbo. The people who like Limbo really like

657
00:41:34,159 --> 00:41:37,800
Limbo. I've never played Limbo.
It's a fun, breezy playthrough. Yeah,

658
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:45,440
what's the other one inside? I'd
say most recently, I think I

659
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:46,840
played a little bit of Limbo.
They don't appeal to me. I don't

660
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:52,079
know what it is. I've really
thought about it. We hate indie games,

661
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:53,079
Yeah, I hate. That's what
it is. I just I just

662
00:41:53,119 --> 00:41:57,960
hate the indie developers, the develoers
being able to feed their families. Let's

663
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,519
go with eighty eight. Okay.
Usually I'm not too into them either,

664
00:42:01,559 --> 00:42:07,440
because it's more about the atmosphere and
everything about the actual peah and no hate

665
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:08,800
towards mind, just not for me. Maybe yeah, same, same,

666
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:15,599
same, All right, Well,
Limbo is in at a ninety. Mike

667
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,840
is very close. Shit man said, ninety gets one, Jeff gets two.

668
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,159
Jeff is now your turn? I
need you to tell me what Amy

669
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:29,519
all capital letters for the PlayStation three
has This game released January eleventh, twenty

670
00:42:29,519 --> 00:42:31,679
twelve. It's based on thirty five
crank reviews. I have never heard of

671
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:36,599
this game. What the fuck is
this shit? I don't know who is

672
00:42:36,679 --> 00:42:39,079
either? What the fuck is this, Bob? What are you doing to

673
00:42:39,159 --> 00:42:42,199
us? What do you think the
theme is? Mike, I'm trying to

674
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,079
like limbo. It's hard to say
so we don't know what this game is.

675
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,719
Must be scary too, right,
Maybe it's Halloween shit. I just

676
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,360
Halloween shit. Yeah, I mean, look, the colors are Halloween,

677
00:42:51,519 --> 00:43:00,639
aren't they, now that I look
closely? Sixty nine nice US seventy three

678
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:07,159
Mike's more optimistic shot in the dark. Yeah, absolutely thrown a dart.

679
00:43:08,079 --> 00:43:15,480
Okay, well, Amy there perhaps
correctly acclaimed game sits as he gets this

680
00:43:15,639 --> 00:43:17,239
right. This is this has gotta
be a curve ball one right, like

681
00:43:19,159 --> 00:43:24,119
yep, twenty five a right?
Okay, Hey, thanks for the thanks

682
00:43:24,159 --> 00:43:27,639
for telling me about this one.
I'll see if I can. This is

683
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,920
like, yeah, how much do
I get this on Blake Club? The

684
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:35,440
hell? Amy got? Okay?
I love when we have these like huge

685
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,440
score differentials. I have to like
count to make sure that click the right

686
00:43:37,519 --> 00:43:44,000
Yeah, okay, break out the
calculator. Alright, this is going well.

687
00:43:44,079 --> 00:43:51,000
Game number three Dead Space for the
Xbox three sixty original version obviously October

688
00:43:51,039 --> 00:43:52,760
thirteenth, two thousand and eight.
Seventy nine. Cruik reviews a lot to

689
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:59,199
work with their Mikey, Yeah,
people like this wasn't like the craziest high

690
00:43:59,199 --> 00:44:02,559
scores. I recorse. I'm gonna
say in eighty seven, okay, So

691
00:44:02,679 --> 00:44:08,159
okay, I'm distracted by Amy being
included on the Wikipedia page for games notable

692
00:44:08,199 --> 00:44:12,880
for terrible reception. Ooh, okay, it got a two out of ten

693
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,280
from my gn Okay, dead Space
eighty seven is pretty good. I'm gonna

694
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:22,880
go with an eighty four, though
eighty four from Jeff going a little lower.

695
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:27,519
I actually think this might be higher
personally, but we'll see what is

696
00:44:27,559 --> 00:44:30,800
possible. I just I don't know
this first one people did. They didn't

697
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:36,119
really like it. Well, the
original Dead Space came in at in eighty

698
00:44:36,199 --> 00:44:40,440
nine. Okay, there it is, man, Okay, so we're tied

699
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:47,039
tied up at fifty one points at
However, about halfway through the game game

700
00:44:47,119 --> 00:44:52,000
number four, an average golf round
is like seventy two strokes. So just

701
00:44:52,159 --> 00:44:59,039
this is fine. Alan Wake the
original for Xbox three sixty May eighteenth,

702
00:44:59,079 --> 00:45:04,880
twenty ten, one one hundred correct
reviews. Jess, I am gonna go

703
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,880
with an eighty five this time,
say eighty five. Damn it thinka eighty

704
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:15,000
five. Shit, okay, gosh, because I don't know, people get

705
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,719
some people do get hung up and
think, you know, by the repetitiveness

706
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,719
of it doesn't bother me. I'll
be optimistic. I'll say eighty six.

707
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:27,840
I really like this game. Eighty
six locked in there? Cool? Yeah,

708
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:32,760
all right, well, Ellen,
wake the og has an eighty three.

709
00:45:34,159 --> 00:45:37,400
I got right in the ballpark.
Yeah, yeah, that sounds right.

710
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,559
They were right close. Game one
point difference, Game NAR five.

711
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:49,639
The last one is Outlast, the
PC version released September fourth, twenty thirteen,

712
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,360
fifty nine frict reviews to work with
Mike. Yeah, which which one

713
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:59,360
was this? Again? What was
that last? This is like the It's

714
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,159
just like Me game. Yeah,
this is the one when there's a monster

715
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,800
chasing you through a building or something. Yeah, this is like one of

716
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,360
those that sort of started the path
I guess, Resident Evil turning to residueval

717
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:15,360
seven. Yeah, it's like one
of those spooky eighty two. Eighty two

718
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,559
I'm gonna go with I think I
played a little bit of this game.

719
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,719
I'm gonna go with an eighty eight. Don't get interesting, all right?

720
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:34,119
All right, a right, Well, Mike's so excited. Outlast came in

721
00:46:34,199 --> 00:46:43,360
at eighty. How was I close? I didn't even know what this game

722
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,280
is? How was I even close? Jeff gets it exactly right. We

723
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:55,440
are ending the game Mike at fifty
six forty or treat. I don't know

724
00:46:55,480 --> 00:47:00,679
what this is. There's some duck
assles out now. Congratulations, Thank you

725
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,119
very much, Sean. I appreciate
it. That was a lot of fun,

726
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:06,840
especially since I keep winning. Oh
boy, oh boy, I wonder

727
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:08,840
which rules are going to change this
time. Can't wait to find out next.

728
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,800
All right, well, Mike goes
pee. You know what, Christian?

729
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,960
Should we take one more break?
Sure, we're gonna take one more

730
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:20,000
break, and then when we get
back, then we'll do the Spooky Game

731
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,199
Console Draft or Halloween Game Console Draft. I don't know, Mike, you'p

732
00:47:22,199 --> 00:47:28,760
saying at me about it. We'll
do it right after this and we're back.

733
00:47:29,079 --> 00:47:31,960
It's time for the Halloween Game Console
Draft, Mike. We don't know

734
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:36,440
who won any last draft or whatever. Sewan offered to look, but you

735
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,280
have a twenty sided diet that's as
good as anything else I did. I

736
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,639
want to make it clear, I
did offer for you to go first.

737
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:45,360
Yeah, And I looked at your
pity and I spat at it. So

738
00:47:45,679 --> 00:47:51,599
put you odds on this twenty I'll
take evans. Please chat real quick.

739
00:47:51,639 --> 00:47:57,920
Is the is it flashing? Is
the graphics flashing? Oh? Okay,

740
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,079
all right, never mind. Uh
cool, let's to two. You get

741
00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:06,360
to go first. Great, all
right, fantastic, let's see I am.

742
00:48:06,679 --> 00:48:08,239
Let me let me think here,
Claire, So we're draft So what

743
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,320
we're doing here is we're drafting.
Yeah, yeah, give me the what

744
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:14,039
you what you think this means?
Because I want to operate in those condos.

745
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:20,039
We're just picking halloween consoles, So
just anything that's spooky or scary,

746
00:48:20,159 --> 00:48:22,400
anything that you think is kind of
halloween ish, right, because that develops

747
00:48:22,519 --> 00:48:30,599
a bunch of things. So yeah, all right, which one remake it?

748
00:48:31,559 --> 00:48:34,519
Yes? I've played a lot of
it, just well a couple of

749
00:48:34,519 --> 00:48:37,519
hours. Oh my god, listen, you should have gone first then if

750
00:48:37,519 --> 00:48:42,599
you were going to get so upset
about it. Jesus four is a good

751
00:48:42,639 --> 00:48:45,239
game. I like it. I
like it a lot. The first time.

752
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:50,679
I like it somewhat the second time. Just shut up. The scariest

753
00:48:50,679 --> 00:48:53,719
thing in October is my anytime I
talk about resume before round, Mike Oh

754
00:48:54,000 --> 00:49:00,800
had no suggestions chat just oh yeah, there's no suggestion even maybe we will

755
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:06,079
take yours after they pick theirs,
Okay, resident before. I think has

756
00:49:06,119 --> 00:49:09,920
got to be the biggest, like
Mover and Shaker on this console, there's

757
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,800
gonna be a lot of stuff that
people really care about. I think this

758
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,239
is the one that the most people
will care about. Okay. It's funny

759
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,800
because when I talk about it being
game there get yelled up. But sure,

760
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,280
Okay, I don't yell at you
about that. I just said there's

761
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:31,480
no chance. Okay, dang it
a boomer? Could you say, dang

762
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:37,519
it? Am I a boomer?
Yeah, you're doubting yourself. I'm not

763
00:49:37,519 --> 00:49:42,239
getting chat. But like I'm there's
a bunch of like sixteen big games,

764
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,920
even epick games, and I'm just
terrified to pick one after that. Like,

765
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,840
I think it just has to be
the best. I'm gonna go.

766
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,440
I wanna take it for you,
Ken, I'm gonna take Castleween, Sympathy

767
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:55,039
of the Night right now, taking
it right now. Just as far as

768
00:49:55,079 --> 00:50:00,559
games with like vampires and Halloween monsters
running, I think it has to be

769
00:50:01,079 --> 00:50:07,440
the best one. So I feel
good about it. Okay, I am

770
00:50:07,519 --> 00:50:15,199
gonna go with Silent Hill too hit, because I know that when I choose

771
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,840
it, I'll get that kind of
reaction out of you. And also a

772
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:23,679
lot of people are obsessed with this
game, obed. We're doing twelve games

773
00:50:23,679 --> 00:50:27,159
again, it used to be our
usual. Oh we're doing twelve, Yeah,

774
00:50:27,159 --> 00:50:30,320
we can do twelve. Shit.
Okay, yeah, I think I

775
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:34,880
just what I did the JRPG draft
with the Cameron I we did like five

776
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:36,760
or six games, so I had
that in my head. But you're right,

777
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,840
we did twelve games. So let's
let's go for it. Let's at

778
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,800
least do ten and see how we're
feeling to that one. It's fun to

779
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,360
have to scrap the bottom of the
barrel. Okay, very good point.

780
00:50:45,159 --> 00:50:52,280
All right, I better, Mike, I know the next one to pick.

781
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,920
Okay, I mean, look,
I have two pass here. I

782
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,480
give a pick the Reds the other
resuval game now, and hope you don't

783
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,599
want to take it it or pick
something else, because like, oh,

784
00:51:01,599 --> 00:51:06,599
he won't want to. I'd better
just take Resident Evil to remake, right

785
00:51:06,599 --> 00:51:09,400
now. I better just do that. Get to get that one done as

786
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:15,639
able to remake. There, I
have it safe, Ishi. I will

787
00:51:15,639 --> 00:51:17,920
say one of my strategies going in
here was be like just pick every Resident

788
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:22,719
Evil game. I think that would
have actually helped a lot. All right,

789
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:28,480
I'm gonna go with PT. Okay, all right, we'll see you're

790
00:51:28,559 --> 00:51:30,159
right that probably just play. I'm
just not impressed by PT because I didn't

791
00:51:30,159 --> 00:51:36,679
play it. Definitely plays will win
will give me win over some portion of

792
00:51:36,679 --> 00:51:39,320
the audience. Yeah, you know
you are really horny for that game demo.

793
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:45,519
But whatever, I will pick Luigi's
Mansion three now, shit, all

794
00:51:45,599 --> 00:51:47,679
right, that's pretty good, going
a little bit better, being a little

795
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:58,320
bit better now, Okay, Uh, I'm gonna go with I got a

796
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:02,800
couple I'm thinking about. I think
I'll go with Dead Space the remake.

797
00:52:04,639 --> 00:52:13,559
I guess that makes sense. Uh, then I will now hm hmm,

798
00:52:16,679 --> 00:52:22,000
like let me be careful here,
let me think about this carefully. Road

799
00:52:22,039 --> 00:52:27,679
Fall, no joking. Yeah,
yeah, I'll take right now. I'll

800
00:52:27,679 --> 00:52:30,679
take that's a good one. That's
a good spooky Halloween game. Yeah.

801
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,920
I really really enjoyed it on week
last year for a spooky fun time.

802
00:52:35,559 --> 00:52:46,280
Okay, let's see, I did
dead Space, so yeah, I like

803
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:51,679
this one. I'm gonna go with. Like what now, I'm like trying

804
00:52:51,679 --> 00:52:53,599
to figure out what you'll pick and
if you'll like consider some of the things.

805
00:52:53,639 --> 00:52:57,280
I'm thinking about that because there's so
many places we can go with this,

806
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,920
Mike. I'm I'm I'm gonna ask
if Castlevania sympathy on of the Night

807
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:07,840
is on? Here, can I
pick Bloodborne? Uh? Blood? Oh?

808
00:53:08,119 --> 00:53:13,039
I mean yeah, absolutely, Ship, I fuck yeah, I guess

809
00:53:13,039 --> 00:53:15,599
you could. Damn I'm gonna pick. I'm gonna pick blood Born. I

810
00:53:15,599 --> 00:53:20,679
think I'm gonna pick blood Born.
That's a pretty good one. I think

811
00:53:20,679 --> 00:53:24,880
I'm gonna pretty blood Born fucking lose
again. I was like not even thinking

812
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:28,239
that would count because we're going in
with like horror games and now like,

813
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:37,199
well that's basically modern Castlevania. Okay, Ship, Now I need to think.

814
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,400
I mean, my list doesn't look
bad, but then like I like

815
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,679
your list, Like I like that
as always, I think I like your

816
00:53:43,679 --> 00:53:49,000
list better than mine. It's always
God, yeah, I gotta think for

817
00:53:49,639 --> 00:53:52,239
a split second here. You gotta
give me no problem to take your time.

818
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:57,599
I'm like, I will also be
considering my strategy. There's a I

819
00:53:57,639 --> 00:54:00,599
don't I feel like there's some big
ones, but there's also it feels like,

820
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,599
yeah, I don't know, we
might just be digging deeper on some

821
00:54:04,599 --> 00:54:07,000
of these franchises soon. I don't
know. I mean, this feels like

822
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:08,800
a good pick if you didn't have
just picked Bloodborne. I'm still gonna go

823
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:13,519
with it Alien Isolation. That that
is literally the one I was gonna pick

824
00:54:13,559 --> 00:54:16,360
before I thought about Bloodborne. Yeah, damn, I think I think Alien

825
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:21,719
Isolation is a good one. All
right, all right, chat, Jeff

826
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,880
hasn't won yet. You'll calm down. This happens every time. Wait the

827
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:30,159
vote, now, calm down.
It's fine, it's fine. Uh,

828
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:34,440
guys. I always have strong early
picks and then I beef it at the

829
00:54:34,519 --> 00:54:37,519
end. So let's just win.
Let's just wait. Well, yeah,

830
00:54:37,559 --> 00:54:44,039
listen, because my strong early picks
make the difference. Let's see what do

831
00:54:44,039 --> 00:54:50,239
we have on the board for that? Not yet. I'm gonna go with

832
00:54:50,519 --> 00:55:06,320
Amnesia the Dark Descent. Okay,
Yeah, I'm gonna go with Bayonetta two.

833
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,880
Oh okay, I like that a
lot. That's a that's a good

834
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:24,440
one. Mm hmm. So how
many we have one through three? We

835
00:55:24,519 --> 00:55:32,599
have six? We have six slots
left. I think I'm gonna go with

836
00:55:32,639 --> 00:55:45,000
the Evil Within two. Kay uh, I will now do which one?

837
00:55:45,599 --> 00:55:47,360
Everyone did? Like it? Even
I had a problem Devil May Cry five?

838
00:55:49,119 --> 00:56:00,199
Oh yeah, uh? Okay,
does does BioShock count? You think?

839
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:01,920
I don't know because there's not like
witches or anything like that. I

840
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:07,440
think it's it's scary, but is
it HALLOWEENI atmospheric? I don't know.

841
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:12,639
I just I just don't get a
ton of Yeah. I think most people

842
00:56:12,639 --> 00:56:15,000
in chatter are saying I think I
agree. I agree. I don't think

843
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,519
they as shocksha count either, So
I'm fine with that. Okay, then

844
00:56:17,599 --> 00:56:22,480
let's go, let's let's step back
kind of in this direction. Well,

845
00:56:22,559 --> 00:56:29,519
let me think for a moment actually
before I make any rash decisions. Does

846
00:56:29,519 --> 00:56:32,599
anyone care about that? I don't
know if anyone cares about that, that's

847
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:40,400
my issue. And then, like
I'm thinking about a lot of games,

848
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:45,920
I'm like, I don't know if
they have big enough audiences to make a

849
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:47,079
difference on this list. So I'm
like, should I just kind of wrap

850
00:56:47,119 --> 00:56:51,760
back around now? And I think
I think I'll start doing that, and

851
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:53,000
if I have to get if I
have space at the end, I'll do

852
00:56:53,079 --> 00:57:01,280
that. I'm gonna go with Resident
Evil remake. Okay, yeah, fine,

853
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:15,840
uh fear oh, that's a good
one. Uh, it's all capped

854
00:57:17,559 --> 00:57:22,400
anagram. It stands for something I
do not respect that. I only respect

855
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:30,440
one camel case and that's it.
Uh. Vampire Survivors that one. I'm

856
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:31,679
that one. I like. I
like that. I think that's a fun

857
00:57:31,719 --> 00:57:45,159
pick. Uh. Vampire the Masquerade, Oh, mass cardad how you spell

858
00:57:45,239 --> 00:57:50,920
it? Looks? Looks? Give
me squiggles three six nine. We have

859
00:57:50,960 --> 00:58:06,159
three picks left? Yep, Okay, I'm gonna go with Fazmo Phobia.

860
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:10,679
Okay, we should We should play
that game sometime. Yeah, we should.

861
00:58:10,719 --> 00:58:15,599
I know. Okay. Now I
have a question. Would you count

862
00:58:16,079 --> 00:58:22,920
Doom twenty sixteen. It's demons,
right, I think that counts. God,

863
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:24,440
that's a good pick if Yeah,
that counts to me? Demons.

864
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:29,480
I know it's sci fi, but
that's it's still mostly hell demons. Yeah,

865
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:36,639
Doom counts. Yeah, twenty Doom
twenty sixteen, that's a good one.

866
00:58:36,719 --> 00:58:37,519
Man. That's Uh, that is
a game I would like to play

867
00:58:37,519 --> 00:58:47,719
on Halloween. Okay, I might
fuck around and find out and go with

868
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:54,039
five nights at Freddy's, all right, because she just do fun enough.

869
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:59,280
Just because I don't know, I
feel like I don't know. There's a

870
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,039
handful of people out on it.
It might be like something they have if

871
00:59:01,039 --> 00:59:05,039
probably not. Instead, I'll find
Nights of Freddy. You will get all

872
00:59:05,039 --> 00:59:07,679
the zoomers in it. Yeah,
I'm trying to get the zoomers. I

873
00:59:07,679 --> 00:59:08,800
don't think they're gonna see the tweet
or the anything. And I don't think

874
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:12,559
they're gonna chat, that's for sure. And they're probably not in the discord.

875
00:59:12,599 --> 00:59:24,960
But whatever. Ghostbusters the video game, that's fun. Okay, So

876
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:28,480
now are we at We're at one
last one. I think that's the last

877
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:40,440
one. Jesus. Okay, I
like this one. Okay. Inscription okay,

878
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:47,239
mhm, sure forgetting something. Okay, there's like this. There's a

879
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:51,519
sixteen bit one I want to do. I could probably do better, but

880
00:59:51,559 --> 00:59:54,039
I don't know. Maybe maybe give
me something to these The retro freeze is

881
00:59:54,079 --> 01:00:02,119
good. I'll do Splatterhouse two like
that. All right, Now, there

882
01:00:02,159 --> 01:00:07,000
it is. Let's see one of
you guys want to put a thing in

883
01:00:07,039 --> 01:00:09,639
the chat and one what am you
put in the discord? And I'll do

884
01:00:09,679 --> 01:00:13,679
a tweet. I have the disc
out, I'll read them out. I'll

885
01:00:13,719 --> 01:00:21,840
do the cha the mic Before Christmas. Halloween game console has Castlevania Symphony The

886
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:28,440
Night Resident Evil two remake, Luigi's
Mansion three, Alan Wake, Alien Isolation,

887
01:00:29,079 --> 01:00:34,239
Bayonetta two, Devil May Cry five, Fear Vampire, The Masquerade,

888
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:37,599
Doom twenty sixteen, Ghostbusters, The
Video Game at Spoderhouse two, The Death

889
01:00:37,599 --> 01:00:45,079
Grub sixty four has Resident Evil four
remake, Silent Hill two pt Dead Space

890
01:00:45,159 --> 01:00:50,519
remake, Bloodborne Amnesia, The Dark
Descent, The Evil Within two, Resident

891
01:00:50,719 --> 01:00:57,320
Evil remake, Vampire Survivors, Fastmophobia
five Nights at Freddy's inscription. Oh,

892
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,840
left for Dead, that would have
been good. Huh. I thought about

893
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:01,400
it, thought I about Left for
Dead, But I think it's left for

894
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:07,039
that for that counted. But last
of us have been I don't know sure,

895
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:12,440
I don't know. IM zombie stuff
zombie And if you would have said

896
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,320
that, I would have been like
definitely. Was there any reason that you

897
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:19,320
didn't go with like O g ri
Foh? Oh, I don't know.

898
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,760
It just seems like weird. If
you had remake, you say A or

899
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,480
B, but it like looks like
nothing. Oh, I don't know.

900
01:01:24,519 --> 01:01:29,679
If it's going to confuse people,
right, let me and this polls,

901
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:36,519
then I'm gonna I'm to do it
again. Sorry, because chef, Yeah,

902
01:01:36,519 --> 01:01:39,199
I was doing that for the blind
pole on Twitter. Yeah, it

903
01:01:39,199 --> 01:01:43,960
doesn't be blind here. Yep,
people, people know what's what. Okay.

904
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:50,280
If if anyone is a podcast producer
and you are watching live in our

905
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,480
discord, if you go to the
podcast threads portion, there is a thread

906
01:01:53,519 --> 01:01:57,119
there that has a pole where you
can vote on it, and that is

907
01:01:57,159 --> 01:02:00,400
the official poll to determine the winner. For yes, that is how the

908
01:02:00,719 --> 01:02:06,199
winner is actually determined. Win somewhere
else you still in the opponent's face.

909
01:02:06,559 --> 01:02:13,199
It was some like Siren game,
like the one Siren game. Yeah there

910
01:02:13,239 --> 01:02:15,639
for sure. Yeah, Left for
I kind of regret now putting Left for

911
01:02:15,679 --> 01:02:21,840
Dead on there. I mean I
won''s like my last pick, but I

912
01:02:22,159 --> 01:02:24,400
should have done Left for Dead instead. Mike, how are you feeling about

913
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:28,239
your list? I don't know.
Look at it, sure looks good.

914
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:35,840
Uh. People think blood Borne people
like people are just so horny. There's

915
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,280
straight horny for from soft games,
Jeff and just can't be stopped. Dead

916
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:42,320
Rise is a good one. Okay. So yeah, yeah, I think

917
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,840
you're right, Mike. I think
Bloodborne is kind of a tough one to

918
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:50,079
overcome. I was I almost picked
the Alien Isolation instead. I wouldn't even

919
01:02:50,079 --> 01:02:53,239
thought of Bloemore. I just wasn't
thinking if it would have been okay,

920
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:59,159
maybe I went on things, so
yeah, yeah, I think in the

921
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,599
like the discord, I have no
idea what's going to happen. It's pretty

922
01:03:01,599 --> 01:03:07,760
close on Twitter right now, it's
like fifty fifty two to fifty forty eight,

923
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,360
so kind of right, and that's
like just started, so yeah,

924
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:14,519
it's gonna be close. We'll check
on on that here in a second.

925
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:16,119
We'll give you guys all some time
to vote. If you're voting, line

926
01:03:16,159 --> 01:03:19,519
Iro, vote for my console.
It has a Bayonetta game. That's what

927
01:03:19,519 --> 01:03:24,280
we're doing. If you're listening on
the podcast feed later this the poll will

928
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,800
be up for twenty four hours,
so you'll be able to vote the day

929
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:30,000
after this goes up. Otherwise,
you can always just go find that thread

930
01:03:30,039 --> 01:03:32,960
and yell at us there too.
If we forgot your favorite game, Are

931
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:37,079
you seeing anything in chat that you
wish you would have included? Not really

932
01:03:37,119 --> 01:03:39,280
actually, so that makes me feel
we didn't seem to miss anything. I

933
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:44,480
guess at the album maybe acting ye
I said the Apple two, I could

934
01:03:44,519 --> 01:03:46,639
have probably gotten away with that.
That one makes sense. That would have

935
01:03:46,639 --> 01:03:51,599
been allowed some of your metry dread
or metro games like, eh, not

936
01:03:51,719 --> 01:03:55,119
for Halloween Doom three? What are
are you? The boomer Christian Doom three?

937
01:03:57,239 --> 01:04:00,519
Scarrydam's a good one. I'd like
that. There the fuck is my

938
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:05,480
vampire savior? Mic I thought you
would get my back there, and you

939
01:04:05,519 --> 01:04:10,920
did. It would be he said
vampire and like I saw the light bulb,

940
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:12,599
I'm like, oh, he's gonna
pick it, and then you know,

941
01:04:13,679 --> 01:04:16,480
Masquerade still a good pick. But
come on, yeah, like one

942
01:04:16,519 --> 01:04:19,719
fighting game always helps because the fighting
freaks are like, thank you for remembering

943
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:24,559
that we exist? Yes, exactly, Yeah it was. It's actually one

944
01:04:24,599 --> 01:04:28,239
of my favorite Halloween games. Would
costume play. I just forgot, oh

945
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:33,599
Hades. Maybe it's not really like
I did say Griffin Dango because like one,

946
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:38,719
maybe a little need to I get
you get yelled at if you say

947
01:04:38,719 --> 01:04:42,360
that's a Halloween fowing game. Yeah, because it's very it's a very specific

948
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,480
thing that's not Halloween yet. So
it's a good point, even though it's

949
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:48,039
like skeletons like Halloween. But no, not this. I think it might

950
01:04:48,079 --> 01:04:51,559
have been good. Yeah. I
considered Call to the Lamb uh, but

951
01:04:51,639 --> 01:04:56,280
I don't know. I wasn't quite
feeling it afterward? Are we feeling uh

952
01:04:57,039 --> 01:05:00,519
zombie? My neighbors is like I
would have thought about to dude, but

953
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:04,239
I was afraid doing too many old
school ones. Uh what's that one starring

954
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:08,360
polter Guy? I could have done
that, but no one gives a shit.

955
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:11,559
All right, So yeah, what
do you think we should do now,

956
01:05:11,559 --> 01:05:13,320
Mike? Should we talk about our
games and then check or do you

957
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:15,400
want to just get the results now? I think we're probably good at this

958
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,400
point. Let's see what Sean.
Sean could maybe see how many votes there

959
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:23,960
are. Sean would say, maybe
talk about what you've been playing first.

960
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:28,719
Okay, sounds good. Let's see
again, everybody, if you're in the

961
01:05:28,719 --> 01:05:30,519
discord, and if you're not,
you I mean you want to be a

962
01:05:30,559 --> 01:05:32,079
podcast producer. I guess you have
to don't have time to join the Patreon

963
01:05:32,119 --> 01:05:35,079
and everything. But if you are
already a member of the Patreon, the

964
01:05:35,119 --> 01:05:40,280
Discord, Discord, dot gg slash
game mess voting there, all right,

965
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:43,760
Mike, you what have you been
playing? Gosh, it really has been

966
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:46,599
a lot of boulders Gate three and
Steeve Star. Still I did beat Sea

967
01:05:46,639 --> 01:05:51,800
of Stars, but I was told
to like I should get the true ending,

968
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:55,760
which requires you to kind of do
a lot of the major side quests,

969
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,000
and I mostly don't mind it because
most of the sidequests are fun,

970
01:05:58,039 --> 01:06:00,880
but one of them is a five
kind all of the hidden thing things,

971
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:05,159
right, there's like these sea conscies
and there's sixty of them. So that's

972
01:06:05,159 --> 01:06:08,360
why I want to kind of find
annoying because I basically says, going to

973
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,320
guide because I don't know which ones
I got and like find you can.

974
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:15,039
There's like a some system that helps
with that a bit. But that's a

975
01:06:15,079 --> 01:06:17,880
little annoying to me, especially because
you know, I really liked the game.

976
01:06:18,239 --> 01:06:21,320
The ending was a little like,
oh, you're holding something back here

977
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:24,960
to me, and now I kind
of think I know why. We'll see

978
01:06:25,199 --> 01:06:27,719
when I get this true ending.
But part of me is like, I'd

979
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:30,239
rather you just maybe put all that
in the ending. If you want to

980
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,679
do something fun for the true ending, then sure. But again, I

981
01:06:32,679 --> 01:06:35,400
haven't seen the true ending yet,
so I'm not exactly sure. But I'm

982
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,800
still look I like See Stars a
lot, so having to play more of

983
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:43,440
it isn't exactly killing me. Oh, Junior says, the true ending is

984
01:06:43,519 --> 01:06:46,599
bad. I heard somebody say it
was essential that's interesting. Would you like

985
01:06:46,719 --> 01:06:49,039
at a certain point be like,
well, I guess I'll just watch this

986
01:06:49,119 --> 01:06:53,000
on YouTube. I thought about it. But the thing was, so a

987
01:06:53,039 --> 01:06:57,039
lot of those quests I already did
because that's how you get everybody's best weapon,

988
01:06:57,519 --> 01:06:59,599
and they were fun, so I
did. I did a lot of

989
01:06:59,639 --> 01:07:01,400
those, and I did kind of
part of it was that like whole like

990
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:05,480
that ending was in everything I kind
of needed. So it's like I definitely

991
01:07:05,599 --> 01:07:09,719
really want to see what the true
ending is maybe kind of feel a little

992
01:07:09,719 --> 01:07:15,360
bit better. Oh sure, Okay, yeah that makes sense. I what

993
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:18,320
was your time and your twenty five
hours to like beat it normally, and

994
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:21,599
then it's probably gonna be like like
three or five more hours to like okay,

995
01:07:21,639 --> 01:07:25,719
hit everything here. Yeah, and
that's that's really nice. I saw

996
01:07:25,719 --> 01:07:28,400
some people saying like seventy five hours
and stuff like that. How does that

997
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:31,239
happen? I don't know, I
will say generally, I do sometimes notice

998
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:35,599
like beat games a little faster than
these say, but that yes, because

999
01:07:35,639 --> 01:07:39,280
I remember Twilight Princess was one of
those like the first time people were like,

1000
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,599
this is a seventy hour game,
and then I beat it in like

1001
01:07:41,639 --> 01:07:43,880
thirty hours. I'm like, how
does how going to be that much of

1002
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:47,920
a discrepancy. I don't understand.
But no, if you there's no way

1003
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:51,239
it would take you more than thirty
hours to at least just beat the game.

1004
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:57,360
I can't imagine what else you've been
playing. Yeah, like the Botskate

1005
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:01,880
three. I got to Act two
reacts, right, so was digging around

1006
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:04,480
in there a little bit. Basically
just started that. All of Act one

1007
01:08:04,719 --> 01:08:10,000
was super fun though a lot of
cool stuff. It is incredible just going

1008
01:08:10,039 --> 01:08:12,559
off the be and path a bit
doesn't just find like something kind of neat,

1009
01:08:12,599 --> 01:08:16,039
but these giant quest chains or tons
of interesting stuff. Anybody wh's done

1010
01:08:16,039 --> 01:08:19,159
Act one knows that kind of At
the end, you could find this optional

1011
01:08:19,239 --> 01:08:23,479
forge that has a lot of neat
stuff going on there, right, You

1012
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:26,760
mentioned that that sounded that does sound
cool, right, So it's really cool.

1013
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,159
Is obviously you can use the forge. You can make some really good

1014
01:08:29,279 --> 01:08:31,880
armor or weapons, and there's a
kind of a a counter tied to that

1015
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:35,359
and some other stuff. The whole
sort of last area before you move on

1016
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:39,520
to Act two has a lot to
do. It is just so dense.

1017
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:43,039
It's such a dense game, and
I really like that just everywhere I go

1018
01:08:43,359 --> 01:08:45,319
there's a little bit something. What's
funny is you know I said on the

1019
01:08:45,319 --> 01:08:49,079
bomb cast how much I like how
important the levels are, Like I'm like,

1020
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:53,119
well, thirty hours in or something
twenty five hours in and I'm level

1021
01:08:53,159 --> 01:08:56,720
five. Each time you love up
it feels great because it's this giant power

1022
01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:00,000
leap. And then some of the
D and D freaks were like, uh,

1023
01:09:00,039 --> 01:09:01,359
that's what everybody hates about this new
version of D and D is at

1024
01:09:01,399 --> 01:09:03,680
the level of don't feel as good
as they used to. It's like,

1025
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,840
man, I can't imagine because this
still feels like quite a bit, so

1026
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:10,760
I don't know what that used to
be. Like, yeah, that's that's

1027
01:09:11,119 --> 01:09:13,000
I guess. I mean, I'm
not familiar enough with D and D.

1028
01:09:13,359 --> 01:09:16,119
I've listened to a lot of real
play is that what they're called, podcast

1029
01:09:16,279 --> 01:09:19,680
or a handful of them anyhow,
and I still like, from a distance,

1030
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:21,760
like, I think they kind of
are taking some liberties with this to

1031
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:24,880
make sure it's entertaining. And I
have no idea if I'm getting the real

1032
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,960
D and D experience. So what
I've learned from Balderskate three so far,

1033
01:09:28,039 --> 01:09:30,640
I agree with you. It's like
fun to level up. That's like one

1034
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:33,760
of the coolest things about it.
I think my power jump from level four

1035
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:38,600
to level five was just ridiculous.
You know, each each character, depending

1036
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:41,239
on their class, gets access to
some new stuff. But even just the

1037
01:09:41,279 --> 01:09:45,920
way the stats like your health and
how much damage certain spells suddenly did,

1038
01:09:45,119 --> 01:09:49,359
Like it's a huge difference to the
point where you know, like that if

1039
01:09:49,399 --> 01:09:53,000
I'm having trouble somewhere, maybe it
is worth to see where I am if

1040
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,439
I can go somewhere and get a
level real quick, because that could trivialize

1041
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:59,600
a single encounter. But yeah,
it's just been it's been great. It's

1042
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:01,520
been everything I wanted from it.
This this is the game I'm playing on

1043
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:04,600
my trip. I am, I
got it ready to go on the ally

1044
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:09,520
it is. This is your new
character? Yeah, solo run cool?

1045
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:13,479
Yeah, yeah, I don't.
I don't. Do you have a recommendation

1046
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:16,359
because I don't know. Well,
I think it is important to almost take

1047
01:10:16,399 --> 01:10:18,640
a little bit ahead about who you
want your party and make sure you're not

1048
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:23,720
sort of doubling up there right right, because like I picked Cleric and I

1049
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:26,520
like that. But like one of
the first characters you meet is a cleric

1050
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:29,079
who you probably want in your party. So actually, now the good news

1051
01:10:29,199 --> 01:10:32,479
is you can re roll the other
characters pretty right the games her A Bard

1052
01:10:33,159 --> 01:10:38,079
okay if you okay, yeah,
if you build the clerics very different from

1053
01:10:38,119 --> 01:10:42,439
each other, you can't run two
clerics in one okay, crazy, Like

1054
01:10:43,199 --> 01:10:45,239
I just have to Even if you're
rolling like kind of the same, you

1055
01:10:45,319 --> 01:10:48,640
still you can see play the game. It's not like you have to.

1056
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:53,560
Fine. I would just never like
balance party again. I just I would

1057
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:58,760
give me to be honest, Okay, I would never. I would never

1058
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:00,600
want to just have to the same
class by party. It feels a little

1059
01:11:01,039 --> 01:11:05,880
I don't know, blandy to me. Yeah, I'm just like, you

1060
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:09,520
know, Basket Robinson, like,
oh, there's two flavors of chocolate,

1061
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:12,399
like yeah, but I'm like,
I'm only getting two scoops here, so

1062
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:14,880
kind of want to mix things up
a little bit. I know what you

1063
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:17,039
mean. I don't know. I
mean I personally like I've been happy sort

1064
01:11:17,039 --> 01:11:20,439
of having two people who can heal
myself. But I don't know if that

1065
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:24,399
standard that's what everybody needs. But
again, especially early on, if you

1066
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:28,279
don't know, it's like a lot
of video games where it's kind of hardest

1067
01:11:28,399 --> 01:11:30,760
hardest at first because you don't have
a whole lot of abilities, and you

1068
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:33,319
probably don't really know how to play
it yet. You don't really understand that

1069
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:38,000
each encounter is kind of a big
deal and it's okay to spend a lot

1070
01:11:38,039 --> 01:11:42,800
of your abilities and then to go
rest. Yeah, I think I'll go

1071
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:46,920
in there. I always want to
like do like a more uh non traditional

1072
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:51,039
character or whatever, like a bard
or something like that thing marred. But

1073
01:11:51,079 --> 01:11:54,359
I think I'm like, I get
scared, and I think I end up

1074
01:11:54,359 --> 01:11:57,479
settling on something like a rogue,
which I think is still like, oh,

1075
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:00,720
that's not quite like a magic user. It's not quite beat him up

1076
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:05,039
guy. Sure, But I don't
know. I think I start overthinking and

1077
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:09,439
kind of work myself into a shoot
where I'm like, actually, I probably

1078
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:11,720
would have had more fun if I
was just a magic guy or just to

1079
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:15,159
beat him up guy. I don't
know, So I might just go with

1080
01:12:15,199 --> 01:12:16,520
whatever I'm feeling and try to I
had to do it again, I maybe

1081
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:23,319
would pick like a some kind of
a tankier melee person, because I have

1082
01:12:23,359 --> 01:12:26,199
one melee person my party, Karlac, and she's very good and part of

1083
01:12:26,199 --> 01:12:28,520
me is like, I'm make two
of those. Might da actually just make

1084
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:31,319
everything easier? Because you know my
setup right now is I have the Wizard

1085
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:36,800
Gale, and then I have a
shadow Heart as a bar so she's mostly

1086
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:40,960
ranged. And then I'm a cleric
so I can do some stuff up close,

1087
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:43,640
but a lot of my stuff is
also sort of range. And then

1088
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:45,920
carlaks just in there, you know, wrecking everybody in their face, and

1089
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,680
that mostly works, but I wonder
if it would be easier if I had

1090
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:56,239
to pure melee people. Okay,
well I'll I'll make my decision public and

1091
01:12:56,319 --> 01:12:58,359
let everyone help me out. I
don't think. Yeah, chan is a

1092
01:12:58,399 --> 01:13:00,239
good point. Drews are cool,
and I don't think, at least unless

1093
01:13:00,239 --> 01:13:02,479
I miss somebody, I don't really
think you get a Drew in your party.

1094
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:05,640
So that's so you don't get that
that druid guy at the beginning.

1095
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:11,159
You you miss somebody, you can't
get a dread. I talked to that

1096
01:13:11,199 --> 01:13:13,479
guy, but then he say he
wanted to go underground with me, and

1097
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:16,399
then uh just kind of wasn't there. Yeah, you you're okay. If

1098
01:13:16,399 --> 01:13:19,640
he if you've seen him, see
him on your camp, you can you

1099
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:23,199
can't get him like, okay,
he was on my camp. He said,

1100
01:13:23,239 --> 01:13:24,960
yeah, let's go underground. I
was like, okay. Then I

1101
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:28,319
talked to him, and I don't
know there was an adoption about that.

1102
01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:32,640
Right now, everyone in chat is
also saying, oh, no, you

1103
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:38,560
keep talking to him. Okay,
it's d n D. The fact that

1104
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:41,319
I had his own experience. I
think it's part of how it works.

1105
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:45,239
To be clear, I don't care. I mean my party. I have

1106
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:48,159
my party. I wasn't going to
put him in my party anyways. He

1107
01:13:48,199 --> 01:13:51,479
isn't usable to act too. I
don't know, not right away. In

1108
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:55,319
inact to you have. I was
confused about it, to be honest,

1109
01:13:55,359 --> 01:13:57,239
because like he's like, yeah,
let's go down there. I was like,

1110
01:13:57,279 --> 01:13:59,239
okay, then you talked to me. He's like, you know all

1111
01:13:59,239 --> 01:14:01,520
I could talk to him. That
was like about having sex with him,

1112
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:03,880
I think, And I was like, well, no, I know you.

1113
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:08,760
I see. He didn't fit in
with Mikey's Angel, so he's not

1114
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:13,720
on the team. Listen. I
was just gonna say this, his storyline

1115
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,199
is pretty good, and I think
you should like. But I don't know,

1116
01:14:16,279 --> 01:14:18,399
Like, I don't know if I'm
that interested in doing the storylines for

1117
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:23,079
the characters who aren't in my party. We'll see, but at least in

1118
01:14:23,119 --> 01:14:28,479
this place you'll see. Yeah.
Yeah, it's so weird. I wonder

1119
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:30,760
how he missed because I swear I
just talked to him and I didn't see

1120
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:31,640
any options, right there? Are
you an act two? Now? You

1121
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:33,640
said, yeah, I'm an aw
Now that's right, okay, and you're

1122
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:36,039
okay, okay, fair enough.
Well, you said you want to go

1123
01:14:36,159 --> 01:14:39,560
to the underground passage with me,
So that's why I talked to him,

1124
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:42,840
like are you gonna come? And
then you know, he didn't. Maybe

1125
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:45,359
I missed it, but I didn't
see anything that looked like the option to

1126
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:46,880
have him come, So I thought
he would just show up that druid,

1127
01:14:47,039 --> 01:14:55,159
fuck that rud, fuck that true
bear. The bears? Can they really

1128
01:14:55,199 --> 01:15:00,840
show how much? Like you can
show the entire butthole of the b Yeah,

1129
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:02,119
yeah, but you can't show the
bear's penis. Have you seen a

1130
01:15:02,199 --> 01:15:08,079
sex scene in Baldersk yet? No? There is quite a bit penis.

1131
01:15:08,119 --> 01:15:10,920
Yeah, but it's okay, but
is illegal, is what I'm getting at.

1132
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:14,279
Right, you can't show that like
not fictional beast reality. That's that's

1133
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:21,640
dude. Have you have you been
on a what's it called an archive of

1134
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:25,479
our own? Have you been on
A three? Come on, all right,

1135
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:27,880
now tell me how bad I lost
to Jeff already. I can't take

1136
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:31,760
it. Okay, okay, let
me close this poll here, let me

1137
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:35,520
see. Okay, we got the
results, we got the sports. It's

1138
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:42,640
good. The winner with fifty seven
percent of the vote, so not a

1139
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:47,359
huge blow up, but definitely a
decisive win. The death Grub sixty four.

1140
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:54,520
Hello, everybody, what do you
think of what went wrong for you?

1141
01:15:54,560 --> 01:16:00,079
Mike against me? I agree,
Quod Born, I don't know.

1142
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:03,199
I didn't think you're gonna pick Rose
before and make then then you got Silent

1143
01:16:03,239 --> 01:16:06,000
Hill too right away, also,
which sucked. I don't know. I

1144
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:10,640
think it's typical, Like I think, even when I'm like trying not to

1145
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:14,279
be boomery, even I'm like simply
the night is obviously a stone cold classic,

1146
01:16:14,359 --> 01:16:15,960
right, there's probably still going to
people like it's a whole game.

1147
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:19,760
I don't care about Symphony a Night
anymore. And I don't know, I

1148
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:23,720
don't know. I look at it. I have a good list, you

1149
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:28,439
have a good list, but all
the rounding out the problem is, I

1150
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:32,520
think the problems of everyone else nobody
actually votes to the spear of the game.

1151
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:35,800
No one actually thinks about the complete
console lineup. They just look for

1152
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:40,479
their favorite game. For a lot
of people, people have one or two

1153
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:44,920
favorite games. I think nobody cares
that you have stupid shit like five Nights

1154
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:46,600
of Freddy's at yours. Well,
my list is like all good stuff and

1155
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:49,600
like a good variety of things.
No one gives a shit about it because

1156
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:53,239
the idea of like, yeah,
because people want to play their favorites.

1157
01:16:53,319 --> 01:16:55,560
You don't even have like a single, Like just a lot of people like

1158
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:58,760
five Knights of Freddy's and they're younger, but they count. They're also keep

1159
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:00,720
in mind, mindy, they don't. You're right, and I paid your

1160
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:06,880
less yet to a DMC five see
yeah, wow, Listen can't balance out

1161
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:10,439
just says, you know, yeah, I think it's uh yes, I

1162
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:14,680
think basically, uh, it's a
it's a travesty and it's wrong, and

1163
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:16,880
I am actually much more upset than
I'm letting on. But I just can't

1164
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:19,920
afford another blowout right now. I
think it's not good for my health,

1165
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:25,279
good for my own Mike, Yeah, I know, he went on Twitter

1166
01:17:25,319 --> 01:17:30,680
and pull up one everywhere. I'm
sure one everywhere cool. I think that,

1167
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:32,159
uh, like, I think you're
right about five Nights of Friday's.

1168
01:17:32,159 --> 01:17:34,680
I think it would have helped if
you would have just picked good games instead

1169
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:39,239
though, so just better games like
to actually make a difference there. That

1170
01:17:39,279 --> 01:17:43,199
would have probably helped you where to
go on. If you play Resident Evil

1171
01:17:43,239 --> 01:17:46,640
for when you get back, and
I'm gonna be honest, if you don't

1172
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:49,680
agree that it's one of the best
games ever, you're going to be in

1173
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:53,399
trouble. That's the expectation. Now. Every time, like Mike, you

1174
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:57,159
should play something, I'm like,
I will take well, I will do

1175
01:17:57,279 --> 01:17:59,560
that, Jeff, I will take
a lot of that time, even though

1176
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:02,760
times I will play through all Pigment
four and agree with you it's great and

1177
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:06,279
have your back come Game of the
Year time and all this shit because I'm

1178
01:18:06,319 --> 01:18:10,399
a good friend and a good person, and all you have are jokes.

1179
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:16,039
All you have are taunts at jokes, You swarmy piece of shit. When

1180
01:18:16,039 --> 01:18:24,479
I was first dating Stephanie, She's
like, You're a smarmy asshole. But

1181
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:30,640
it just comes naturally. I can't
help myself. All right, So I'm

1182
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:33,560
feeling pretty good. Well, we
will do so we've been doing those game

1183
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:35,800
of the year lists for a while. It's just a better blood Born.

1184
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:40,560
It's actually sixty phrase per second.
You'll get over Bloodborn getting over a little

1185
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:42,920
bit of your list for a while. We've read a little bit, it

1186
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:45,600
a little bit of a break.
We'll probably mix those back in here and

1187
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:48,119
there instead of just doing like back
to back to back, So so now

1188
01:18:48,159 --> 01:18:50,960
that will just kind of be part
of the rotation. I really like this

1189
01:18:51,239 --> 01:18:56,279
genre specific or theme specific console draft
mic, so we'll do more of these

1190
01:18:56,319 --> 01:19:00,720
as well. We'll also do like
the handheld console drafts soon. We did

1191
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:02,079
that before. We'll do the psp
ds one or whatever it was that we

1192
01:19:02,079 --> 01:19:05,039
haven't done yet, So look forward
to all of that. Like I said,

1193
01:19:05,039 --> 01:19:09,279
I played some Forts Motorsport. It's
really good. I haven't had a

1194
01:19:09,359 --> 01:19:11,680
chance to play a ton of it, but but I have played. I

1195
01:19:12,319 --> 01:19:15,359
just really enjoyed the way that the
game is set up, where it's like,

1196
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:17,640
let's get you into a race,
let's have fun. It's gonna feel

1197
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:21,319
great, it's gonna feel amazing,
actually, and then you're gonna get through

1198
01:19:21,319 --> 01:19:24,840
that race, and when you're done, we're gonna give you a ton of

1199
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:27,680
cool stuff. And if you're an
idiot, Like like you are, Jeff,

1200
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:30,760
here's a button the press and it's
just all the good stuff goes into

1201
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:33,239
the right slot and your car's gonna
be even better And isn't that that nice?

1202
01:19:33,239 --> 01:19:35,640
And I'm like, that's very nice. Thank you so much. Let's

1203
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:39,119
get you into another race. Oh, thank you so much video game for

1204
01:19:39,319 --> 01:19:43,520
just patting me along. And I
have no idea how Fortshah motorsport. Like

1205
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:45,920
long time weirdo fans that play two
thousand hours of this game feel that they're

1206
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:48,239
gonna have to go figure that out
on their own. For me, as

1207
01:19:48,279 --> 01:19:51,199
someone who might have picked us up
in game pass, where it's at,

1208
01:19:51,319 --> 01:19:55,720
and that's like a totally valid thing. I think most people who are like

1209
01:19:56,119 --> 01:20:00,000
have any Patris passing interest in racing
games or seeing something very very pretty are

1210
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,199
going to have a very good time
with this game. Uh it's I don't

1211
01:20:03,199 --> 01:20:06,119
think it's out for everybody. I
think it's still like the early actions when

1212
01:20:06,119 --> 01:20:10,239
it comes out for everybody. I
might be wrong. Definitely don't jump on

1213
01:20:10,239 --> 01:20:12,920
that hundred dollars version if you're not
sure, but get it try it out

1214
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:15,479
in game pass. I think again, most people are going to have a

1215
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:19,079
very good time with it. So
yeah, now AJ just messages me that

1216
01:20:19,119 --> 01:20:23,039
he thinks it's pretty Is it their
early acts or something? I guess maybe

1217
01:20:23,039 --> 01:20:25,720
it is. Literally as I said, just texting me. Yeah, it's

1218
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:30,880
out on early access, so if
you do version. I was still stewing

1219
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:32,119
about the game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, you

1220
01:20:32,119 --> 01:20:35,119
know, listen, Mike, we
understand you're allowed to know. You made

1221
01:20:35,119 --> 01:20:40,560
so many mistakes with the Qbore Jeff, Jef, I have I have a

1222
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:44,239
follow up question to show you my
interest and engagement. Okay, let's go

1223
01:20:44,319 --> 01:20:46,239
for it. Yes, how are
the vibes? Because that's something I enjoyed

1224
01:20:46,239 --> 01:20:49,600
in Grant Trisma seven, aside the
fact that it was brave enough to continue

1225
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:54,119
using numbers, I liked the vibes
in Grand Trism with seven a lot.

1226
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:59,840
I think that the vibes are similar
and that they're subdued. I think it's

1227
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:03,239
I think it's very much just like, hey man, you're here for the

1228
01:21:03,319 --> 01:21:06,479
racing. Let's get to the racing. The Grand Tourism you described as kind

1229
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:10,760
of have like a let's sit in
a coffee house, an expensive coffee house

1230
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:13,520
and talk about cars and like how
much we love cars. I kind of

1231
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:15,479
like that shit, and it's not
doing that. So I think grandt Tourism

1232
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:20,159
but probably still has it there.
But this is like similarly similarly mellow.

1233
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:25,079
It's very much like, hey,
let's just play some calming music. There

1234
01:21:25,119 --> 01:21:30,079
is no one ever saying social media. It's just yeah, right, social

1235
01:21:30,159 --> 01:21:35,000
media, social media. It's no. It's all about just hey, get

1236
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:38,920
into the race, have a good
time. And I appreciate that, but

1237
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:42,800
I think I never played Grand Turismo
seven or whatever it was, whatever the

1238
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:47,000
number was. Seven. Yeah,
But the way you described those those charming

1239
01:21:47,079 --> 01:21:49,079
vibes, I'm like, that sounds
kind of nice. I kind of would

1240
01:21:49,199 --> 01:21:54,159
like that smokey everyone's hanging out drinking
whiskey or expensive coffee. I like that.

1241
01:21:54,239 --> 01:21:58,920
But still it's it's much better what
Forts Horizon is doing these days,

1242
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:00,880
at least in my opinion, I'm
very much over the party house vibes.

1243
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:05,680
I didn't. I have not really
put any time into mirage since I did.

1244
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:09,560
I have a preview of that.
We we talked over our footage.

1245
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:11,479
Me and Mike play a little bit
kind of like the thing is like we

1246
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:13,319
me, me and you both did
that preview. We got to play for

1247
01:22:13,319 --> 01:22:15,319
a while, like right, and
it's like, yeah, and there's other

1248
01:22:15,359 --> 01:22:17,159
games happening, so let me get
hands on with those instead. It's so

1249
01:22:17,239 --> 01:22:21,079
it's uh and I'm joyed it.
Yeah, and really I'm playing Spider Man

1250
01:22:21,079 --> 01:22:25,159
two, everybody. That's what I'm
doing. And that's been a that's been

1251
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:27,439
you know, that's been a thing
taking up a lot of my time.

1252
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:30,439
So uh, let's get through that. Maybe I'll check pick in on some

1253
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:34,199
of these other things. Although I
think Mirage might miss its its window with

1254
01:22:34,199 --> 01:22:38,600
me personally, we'll see. It
seems like it's a fine game. But

1255
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:41,119
I think it's fine. I think
it's doing all things I said I wanted.

1256
01:22:41,159 --> 01:22:42,560
It's just yeah, a lot of
people are like, yeah, it

1257
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:44,800
does that, and it does it
well, but you know, it's it

1258
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:47,520
kind of it's kind of doesn't feel
very high on the Jeff Backel are Important

1259
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:51,119
scale in some ways. Right.
Yeah. It reminds me of a rogue

1260
01:22:51,159 --> 01:22:56,279
Assassin's Creed rogue where it's like,
hey, don't you uh no, I

1261
01:22:56,479 --> 01:23:00,359
don't think I ever played somebody else
I know, like Rose Yes, where

1262
01:23:00,359 --> 01:23:01,960
it's just like, hey, yeah, here's another Census creed next to this

1263
01:23:02,079 --> 01:23:05,880
other one and smaller and it's like
this other thing that we kind of built

1264
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:10,600
up into its own thing, and
it's like, yeah, it's It's definitely

1265
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:16,640
not in the upper ast echelon of
Revelations or Brotherhood Too and Black Flag,

1266
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:20,039
but it seems like it's like right
behind those and that's cool, that's fun.

1267
01:23:20,039 --> 01:23:24,159
I'm glad they did it. All
right, Mike, let's get out

1268
01:23:24,199 --> 01:23:26,920
here. Anything else we need to
wrap up before we play the music.

1269
01:23:29,239 --> 01:23:30,880
I think we got it. When
more super chat all right, yes,

1270
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:36,319
yes, I think they're all mocking
me. Theire Wolf says, I'm sorry,

1271
01:23:36,319 --> 01:23:39,600
Mike, but I'm a bloodborn.
Look I get it. It's obviously

1272
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:42,720
a good game. I lashed out
of Bloodborne. I'm sorry. Even though

1273
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:46,479
what I said was true, I
still shouldn't have said it. I'm sorry

1274
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:50,239
for being a truth teller. Speak
truth to power. El Greg says the

1275
01:23:50,279 --> 01:23:54,600
reason why Michael likes Rising Before remixed
so much is because he liked the original

1276
01:23:54,640 --> 01:24:00,600
but never knew how to get the
disc out of the GameCube. To everybody,

1277
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:04,479
it's fucking your bunch of fucking cuties
over there. Do you want to

1278
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:08,000
pick the game next time so you
have a better chance of winning? Or

1279
01:24:08,319 --> 01:24:10,840
what game I don't know the game
that we play on this show. You

1280
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:15,000
want to play? Give me help
you out with your streak here. No,

1281
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:18,239
I'm just gonna lose forever. No, we're just gonna We're gonna go

1282
01:24:18,279 --> 01:24:20,319
back. We do two thousand and
five. Well, next week you're name

1283
01:24:20,359 --> 01:24:23,640
in here about to figure out who
I'm doing a show. I'll be your

1284
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:28,479
decides. I just want to never
mind. Yes, lasts next week,

1285
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:32,439
let me recover. Sure, that's
good. Figure, do you think we're

1286
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:35,319
gonna recover? It's gonna be relaxing
having all these kids yell at us about

1287
01:24:35,359 --> 01:24:39,479
Battlefront two? Is that two thousand
and six? No, I'm good.

1288
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:41,840
No, it's twousand and five,
and I'm gonna get so much pleasure telling

1289
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:45,159
them about how, of course there
are at least five games better than battle

1290
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:49,920
and fiving. I can't wait.
What is what the hell is wrong with

1291
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:55,439
you? Tell people where they can
find you on the internet, what you

1292
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:58,520
have going on? All that good
stuff? Please check out games Beat GamesBeat

1293
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:02,840
dot com and he has our Journey
to Your Imagination episode up, so please

1294
01:25:03,039 --> 01:25:06,439
check that one out, and then
you have a major Mitch been a lot

1295
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:10,840
of fun. Check check that out
new demo Derby. We did with Dan

1296
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:13,720
also this week, so we've been
having some fun at Giant Bum. I

1297
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:15,960
think I'm gonna be on Professional Body
tomorrow without you because you'll be gone.

1298
01:25:16,279 --> 01:25:20,119
Yep, yep. It definitely helped
help the Help those guys out want to

1299
01:25:20,119 --> 01:25:25,079
say this pay day three? Maybe
maybe just tell them I pay day three

1300
01:25:25,079 --> 01:25:28,840
doesn't work. I would like to
see some Assassin's Cream, Mirage or Forts

1301
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:32,880
or whatever. Have someone we'll see. Yeah, help them some random game

1302
01:25:33,159 --> 01:25:36,760
games. Yeah that works too.
I'm going on vacation everybody, so I'll

1303
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:40,000
see you next week. I have
a good one. Take care of yourself

1304
01:25:40,159 --> 01:26:17,560
and goodbye. Good boat Bloodborn.
That is the vibe. All right,

1305
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:28,479
mainstream penetration here, okay, mainstream
penetration, good ship, all right,

1306
01:26:29,119 --> 01:26:35,079
all right, all right, all
right, game to you. Maggie mag

1307
01:26:36,079 --> 01:26:44,800
Massive Action Gaming. No, what
wasn't he? Actually? Is that stupidest

1308
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:48,560
name ever or the best name ever? Because you just knew it inherently?

1309
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:57,000
Yes, that's a good somebody said, Maggie kicked ass. No, No

1310
01:26:57,079 --> 01:27:00,439
I didn't. I never played MAG
and I regret not playing anybody demo.

1311
01:27:00,079 --> 01:27:03,960
Remember it ran out like twenty phrase
per second and was so good I think

1312
01:27:04,079 --> 01:27:11,399
I don't remember. That's a shame. All right, let's let's get back

1313
01:27:11,399 --> 01:27:19,880
into it, all right. Okay, so what kind of game? Horror?

1314
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:26,239
Horror? I'm not like, fuck, yes, like and horror.

1315
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:30,199
I always try to emphasize the horror, and it always comes to that horror.

1316
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:36,720
Yeah, making pronunciations. So my
only issue is that it's more Halloween

1317
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:42,079
because we're doing spooky gas too.
Okay, that's right, Okay, is

1318
01:27:42,079 --> 01:27:45,720
it it's spooky games, just spook
say halloween games, Just say halloween games.

1319
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:48,960
Okay, great, I go what
the fucke that covers the whole job

1320
01:27:49,039 --> 01:27:57,239
that calls all the different branches to
do? What is this? Jeff dude?

1321
01:27:58,279 --> 01:28:00,199
Okay, okay, I'm gonna take
my head ons off. Now let's

1322
01:28:00,199 --> 01:28:04,720
just say Spoopy. We'll pretend like
we're those people. Still. Yeah,

1323
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:09,199
I've got done the full circle on
spooky of like liking it then also in

1324
01:28:09,319 --> 01:28:11,880
thinking it was cringe, but now
thinking the people who think it's cringes are

1325
01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:15,119
cringe. So I just don't even
think about it anymore. I think I'm

1326
01:28:15,159 --> 01:28:18,800
just Spoopy was never good. Spooky
is good, but Spoopy was always trying

1327
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:25,039
to kind of good The problem is
Spoopy is cozy, and we're not about

1328
01:28:25,079 --> 01:28:29,520
cozy around here. Apparently it's fairly
not. It's a spooky it's a spooky

1329
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:33,600
month around here. Yes, well, yes, I'm very scary. Okay,

1330
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:41,279
what's going on here? What is
this? Jeff? I don't know

1331
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:46,159
what. What's the name of your
console? Mike? I'm death Grub sixty

1332
01:28:46,159 --> 01:29:02,520
four okay, death the month the
mikey before Christmas? Okay, or just

1333
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:06,199
a mic before Christmas? I kiss? Yeah, I took I took the

1334
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:10,760
Christ out of Christmas and made it
Xmas. So yeah, I like it.

1335
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:14,520
There's the War on Christmas starting already, everybody. Yeah, all right,

1336
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:23,359
I wanna just get that up there. Hey it just worked. Wow.

1337
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:28,920
Wow, draft that's gonna be fun. Wow, it'll be fun to

1338
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:31,800
do twenty fifteen later because two thousand
and five, because that's like not a

1339
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:35,479
very It's like we had a lot
of banger years less than five. Of

1340
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:39,640
course, because it's a console lunch
here, it's kind of weak. But

1341
01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:43,720
you know what came out on two
thousand and five, Mike, uh something?

1342
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:46,239
There were still some big games something
ball Front too. You know,

1343
01:29:46,319 --> 01:29:51,520
he may may have heard of it. Oh, Jesus Christ, the discord

1344
01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:59,920
is already getting ready to riot.
Ready, Yeah, okay, sure,

1345
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:02,600
all right, I think I am
good. I just gotta change the scene.

1346
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:08,720
You can't, God us ready for
this game over here? Uh no,

1347
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:10,680
but I'll kid that's ready for that
right now? Is what I meant

1348
01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:15,760
to say. I will fuck you
up. I'm gonna fuck you up.

1349
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:33,479
Manga man oh m hm boom boom. I'm glad. That's the song of

1350
01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:38,520
the day. Now you all gets
sufferer with me. Mike Minadi, Mike,

1351
01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:50,960
Mike Minadi, Yes, yes,
a whoa holy ship? Yeah?

1352
01:30:55,239 --> 01:30:59,560
Oh dang, thank you, dang. Okay, well wow, thank you.

1353
01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:01,840
Okay, we'll get that dog that
was worse. That about to be

1354
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:10,199
like what Christian I think you do. We'll lead with that. We're gonna

1355
01:31:10,279 --> 01:31:17,079
lead with that weekend beck, thank
you. I guess super chip we've ever

1356
01:31:17,079 --> 01:31:21,640
gotten geez? Yeah, it's up
there, it's up there. Okay,

1357
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:29,199
wait all right, I'm covered the
that's it. Somebody wants to strip tomorrow.

1358
01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:38,800
Uh okay, doak, let's bring
it back in everyone ready, I

1359
01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:46,720
was ready perfect boom boom, boom
bo boom. That's right. I'm a

1360
01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:50,920
little surprised, you know, and
like at least not not like familiar with

1361
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:55,199
Outlasts at least like in passing.
I mean, yeah, I don't know.

1362
01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:58,399
That was definitely the time when Mike
would not have been paying attention to

1363
01:31:58,439 --> 01:32:00,920
horror games at all. Right,
Well, it's just like because when people

1364
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:04,319
talked about Reside, they're like,
oh, it's like Outlast and Abnetia.

1365
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:10,039
Those are like that. They want
to look at me. I think out

1366
01:32:10,119 --> 01:32:14,399
Last this is the one I was
playing. You tried out for a bit,

1367
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:18,039
Flashlight and Outlast, right, probably
I never played I'm not I'm not

1368
01:32:18,079 --> 01:32:35,960
a horror game guy. Horror higher. Yes, this seems like the Yeah,

1369
01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:43,520
I played this a little bit.
It was okay, uh h oh

1370
01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:46,079
in the remote mountains of Colorado,
and now I gotta play it. Your

1371
01:32:46,079 --> 01:33:00,119
favorite area normally the rural duror the
horror rural duror. Yeah, flashlights the

1372
01:33:00,159 --> 01:33:02,760
main thing for your camera. Okay, okay, yeah, that sounds familiar.

1373
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:05,920
It's fatal Frame still a thing.
There was a Fatal Frame game for

1374
01:33:06,079 --> 01:33:11,960
we you. Yeah, that's the
one that got part to the switch not

1375
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:14,800
too long ago. Okay, I
think that was the one. It was

1376
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:17,560
either there the Wei ones. I
like people like those games. Yeah,

1377
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:25,319
people like Fatal Frames makes me think
of what is the fa fim fatale games?

1378
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:30,520
The ones from with the lesbians.
Oh yeah, fatal Frame that's what

1379
01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:33,359
That's what I'm saying. That's what
reminds me. It has f f right,

1380
01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:39,600
what is it? Yeah? Similar
ship fear fear effect. Thank you,

1381
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:44,520
Dougman. Okay, straphics like even
watch you play the game like that

1382
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:45,800
game does look good. I don't
know much fun it is, but it

1383
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:48,680
looks really good. It's just like
a solo game and you know, holds

1384
01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:55,119
up, holds up absolutely All right, let's get back into it. Yeah,

1385
01:33:55,199 --> 01:34:00,319
actually about that. Let me should
fix this first. Do that Carroll?

1386
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:03,439
Yeah, yeah, kill the stream
Yeah, that she would help.

1387
01:34:04,399 --> 01:34:11,359
Bom boom boom. I'll start again
the thread up for the voting too.

1388
01:34:12,479 --> 01:34:15,479
We trimmed this off, so that's
good. Now we just go get Mikey

1389
01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:21,399
back in there and then we'll be
ready to rumble. I'm sure he likes

1390
01:34:21,439 --> 01:34:30,039
this set up. Mhmm uh oh, now how to de lead that one?

1391
01:34:32,439 --> 01:34:40,840
Sorry for I want I want to
reminders remember remember one? Oh?

1392
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:45,159
Sorry, my brain already Okay,
let's uh let's do it now. Everyone

1393
01:34:45,239 --> 01:34:48,439
ready again? Yeah, I invite
to do a coin flip because I don't

1394
01:34:48,439 --> 01:34:51,520
think I know who won last time
or anything. It's so yeah, uh,

1395
01:34:53,199 --> 01:34:55,680
I'll let you go first. I
don't want your pity. I have

1396
01:34:55,760 --> 01:34:57,960
a twenty. I'll do it.
I'll take care of it. If you

1397
01:34:58,079 --> 01:35:00,199
va for a second, I could
take a look. I got at it.

1398
01:35:00,239 --> 01:35:01,600
I know I'm gonna just okay for
sure,