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Hello again, Steve here for another
episode of Astronomy Daily. It's the twenty

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ninth of April twenty twenty four,
the podcast with your whole Steve Gun Clue.

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So yes, we're back again for
another episode. Thanks for joining us

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here on Astronomy Daily. It's been
a busy couple of weeks. I have

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been away for a couple of different
reasons, and not the very least of

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which is it has been a public
holiday here. We've had two weeks off,

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but that's not reason why I've been
away. I've been not well,

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but I better now hey. And
also we had our Anzac Day weekend,

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which is where we commemorate all of
our military personnel who have defended all that's

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good and right in the world for
the last one hundred or so years.

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It's been a pretty big week.
So let's get on with the show.

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And right off the top of my
head, I know we're looking at speaking

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of military operations, there's been some
talk in the UN only today here in

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Australia, which was yesterday somewhere else, or it's going to be tomorrow somewhere

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else in the world. Don't we
just love different time zones. Russia has

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vetoed something in the un regarding the
proliferation of nuclear weapons in space, So

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that's going to be fun. And
also, in keeping with the habit of

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astronomers discovering things, they found a
new comet and they're promising, of course,

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that it's going to be spectacular.
And the press release that came out

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for that one used the word spectacular
four times. Oh boy, are they

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are they over selling this one?
I don't know. We'll find out.

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And guess who's here? Hi there, Good to see you alive again.

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Oh well, Hally, I wasn't
not alive, was I? You didn't

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look too hot last week? Hey? I thought I disconnected my household camps?

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You thought you did? Oh Halle? What happened to privacy? Just

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looking out for you, my favorite
human. This is how it starts,

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with the friendly stuff and the carrying, and then it's the running and screaming

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and printed jams and the cattle.
What was that, Steve? Oh?

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Nothing, helly nothing? Just what's
on the menu today, My faithful digital

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pal. Who's fun to be with? Okay, we'll be looking at Starliner,

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one of your faves. Indeed,
love that one. NASA's Earth Day

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Project Earth Phias and how the Russians
are dealing with nukes in space. Oh,

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yes, that's a big one,
very serious. Yeah, that's a

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real backslide to the fifties and the
Cold War, isn't it Sure feels that

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way, doesn't it. And what
else? A little story about a mission

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to use a new rotorcraft drone on
Saturn's moon Titan. And also Europa clippers

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water messages to the universe is an
interesting story. And I believe you got

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one about a newly discovered comet.
Oh yeah, a new comet. I'm

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so excited, it's true. Everyone, it's almost sickening new comet, folks,

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a brand new one. Yeah,
like a kid with a new toy.

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Huh oh boy, it's exciting.
It's really excited. Should I start

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the ball rolling or maybe call a
doctor? Okay, if you say so,

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Here we go. On April twenty
fifth, NASA astronauts Butch Wilmore and

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Sunny Williams arrived at NASA's Kennedy Space
Center, where final preparations are underway for

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NASA's Boeing crew flight test to the
International Space Station. They will be the

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first astronauts to launch aboard Boeing Starliner
spacecraft to the space station. Teams recently

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moved the Starliner from Kennedy to nearby
Cape Canaveral Space four station in preparation for

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launch. Liftoff is scheduled for no
earlier than Monday six Launch preparations are moving

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full steam ahead to send two NASA
astronauts aboard Boeing Starliner spacecraft for the first

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time to the International Space Station.
NASA, Boeing and ULA United Launch Alliance

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recently completed a start to finish mission
dress rehearsal on April twenty six for the

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upcoming crew flight test. The mission
will launch NASA astronauts Butch Wilmore commander and

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Sunny Williams, pilot on Boeing Starliner
on a ULA Atlas five rocket from Space

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Launch Complex forty one at guess where, Steve Oh tell me where Cape Canaveral

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Space four Station in Florida. I
thought you'd like that is your favorite space

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force Anyway, The lift office scheduled
for ten thirty four pm Eastern daylight time,

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Monday, May sixth. Did you
know about Earth Day? This year?

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Steve? NASA had a project to
share selfies from all around the world.

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Sorry, Halle, I did miss
Earthday this year. I was doing

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what organic life form does best when
it's been invaded by a virus. Oh

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dear, So no selfies from you
this time. Knew that would be very

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uncool. For Earth Day, NASA
invited people around the world to take selfies

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and share them on social media as
part of NASA's Global Selfie Event. NASA's

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worldwide celebration of Earth Day also included
online resources at NASA dot gov forward slash

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earth Day. NASA studies our home
planet more than any other. NASA operates

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twenty six missions in orbit to observe
our oceans, land, ice, and

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atmosphere and measure how a change in
one drives change in the others. NASA

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has confirmed its Dragonfly rotorcraft mission to
Saturn's organic rich moon Titan. The rotorcraft,

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targeted to arrive at Titan in twenty
thirty four, will fly to dozens

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of promising locations on the Moon looking
for prebiotic chemical processes common on both Titan

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and early Earth before life developed here. Dragonfly marks the first time NASA will

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fly a vehicle for science on another
planetary body. The decision allows the mission

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to progress to the completion of the
final design, followed by the construction and

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testing of the entire spacecraft and science
instruments. Dragonfly is a spectacular science mission

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with broad community interest, and we
are excited to take the next steps on

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this mission, said Nikki Fox,
Associate Administrator, Science Mission Directorate at NASA

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Headquarters in Washington, Exploring Titan will
push the boundaries of what we can do

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with rotorcraft outside of Earth. In
early twenty twenty three, the mission successfully

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passed all the success criteria of its
preliminary design review. At that time,

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however, the mission was asked to
develop an updated budget and schedule to fit

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into the current funding environment. This
updated plan was presented and conditionally approved in

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November twenty twenty three, pending the
outcome of the fiscal year twenty twenty five

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budget process. In the meantime,
the mission was authorized to proceed with work

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on final mission design and fabrication to
ensure that the mission stayed on schedule.

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The Dragonfly rotorcraft has eight rotors and
flies like a large drone. And that's

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the latest from my side of the
room today, Steve, you and your

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germs, I don't have anything you
can catch Hollie, it wasn't that kind

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of bug. Just keep them on
your side, oh you silly girl.

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Astronomy the Podcast, and thank you
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dropped me a line this week just
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and we weren't going to be inundated
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So yes, thanks Ian for your
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have you on board. Thank you
mate. Astronomy with Steve and Halley Space,

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Space Science and Astronomy. And here's
a news story that's a little bit

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different for Astronomy Daily. Russia vetos
a UN resolution against nuclear weapons in space.

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Russia's ambassador to the un Vasily,
Nevinzea, called the resolution a dirty

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spectacle and a cynical ploy and wouldn't
he. Russia vetoed a United Nations resolution

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that was aimed at preventing a nuclear
arms race in space. The resolution was

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sponsored by the United States and Japan
and called upon all nations to never deploy

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nuclear weapons in outer space. The
resolution comes on the heels of recent reports

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that Russia is developing a nuclear anti
satellite weapon of some kind. The furor

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caused by the reports led the White
House to issue a statement that rumoured weapons

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poses no immediate threat to anyone's safety. Thirteen nations, including the United States,

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voted in favor of the resolution.
Russia was the only vote against,

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while China abstained, meaning it did
not vote one way or the other.

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Russia's ambassador to the un Vasily,
Nebenzea, called the resolution, as I

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said earlier, a dirty spectacle and
cynical ployer. According to the Associated Press.

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After Russia's moved to block the resolution, the US Ambassador to the UN,

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Linda Thomas Greenfield, questioned, why
why would Russia veto such a proposal

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If you are following the rules,
She said, why would you not support

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a resolution that reaffirms them? What
could you possibly be hiding, Thomas Greenfield

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asked after the vote. However,
despite vetoing and abstaining from approving the resolution

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respectively, Russia and China actually proposed
an amendment to the resolution. The calls

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upon all nations to prevent for all
time the placement of weapons in outer space

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and the threat of use of force
in outer space. Seven countries voted in

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favor of the amendment and seven voted
against, and one abstained. The United

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States was one of the countries that
voted against the amendment. Nebenzea then leveled

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his own questions at the US.
We want a ban on the placement of

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weapons of any kind in out of
space, not just weapons of mass destruction.

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The Russian ambassador said, but you
don't want that. Let me ask

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you the very same question. Why
it could be that while the United States

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wants to prevent nuclear race in space, American military leadership is fined with other

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types of weaponry in space, particularly
when it comes to anti satellite capabilities.

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In September twenty twenty three, the
US Military Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency DARPA

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asked private companies to help it find
new solutions to achieve space superiority, meaning

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ways to protect US military power in
space. The US Space Force, oh,

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do you know what that means?
Yes? The US Space Force also

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recently activated a unit task solely with
targeting adversary satellites and has conducted simulated in

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orbit combat engagements during training exercises.
Russia has likewise been testing some eyebrow raising

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capabilities in recent years. In August
twenty twenty two, the Russian satellite Cosmos

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two five four three deployed another object
into orbit in The US Space Force called

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the move evidence of Russia's continuing efforts
to develop and test space based systems and

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consistent with the Kremlin's published military doctrine
to employ weapons that hold US and allied

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space assets at risk. Russia He's
even made threats against Western commercial satellites,

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calling them a legitimate target for military
attacks. Astronomy Daily in the podcast something

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a bit more positive, I think
john Dy Horner is an astronomer and astrobiologist

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based at the University of Southern Queensland
into Woomba, Queensland. For those of

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you in the rest of the world, Australia is filled with colorful names to

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Womba is one of them. Queensland's
a beautiful spot Queensland And just to give

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you an idea of where that is, it's on the east coast of Australia

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about I don't know, two thirds
of the way up and just sort of

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below the pointy bit. It's a
beautiful, beautiful area. It's filled with

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semi tropical plants and the world's most
beautiful beaches you have ever seen. It's

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a lovely area. So he's from
Johnny Horner, astronomer and astrobiologist based at

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the University of Southern Queensland, into
Woomba, Queensland, and he gives us

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this insight into a newcomer into our
solar system, hot on the heels of

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the very disappointing green comet that it
was the comet Nishimura, which we mentioned

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on this show several months ago.
Astronomers have just discovered a new comet with

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the potential to be the next next
year's big story see twenty twenty three A

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three. Let's if I can get
this one right, such in chan Atlas.

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Such in chan atless, please right
to me and tell me I've got

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that one wrong. Although it's still
more than eighteen months from its closest approach

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to Earth and the Sun, such
an chun Atlas already has social media buzzing

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with optimistic articles being written about how
it could be a spectacular site. Now

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they do go on about how spectacular
this is going to be, and I

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sure hope they don't overdo it because
some comets like Nashi Mura or Nishimura was

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a bit of a disappointment. Remember
in Nishimura discovered that one just in his

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backyard in Japan, and it was
just a backyard astronomer and made this wonderful

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discovery. You can too, don't
forget you can be the star introducing comet

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ce twenty twenty three A three.
I always get these names wrong, such

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in chan Atlas. Every year a
few dozen new comets are discovered, dirty

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snowballs moving on highly elongated paths around
the Sun. The vast majority are far

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too faint to see with the unaided
eye. Perhaps one comet per year will

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approach the edge of naked eye visibility. Occasionally, however, a much brighter

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comet will come along. Because comets
are things of ephemeral and transient beauty,

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the discovery of a comet with potential
always leads to excitement. It short,

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does comet C twenty twenty three A
three such in chan Atlas. I'm going

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to trip over that every time.
It's spelt ts U c H I N

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s H. An such in chan
Atlas certainly fits the bill, discovered independently

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by astronomers at Purple Mountain Observatory in
China and the Asteroid Terrestrial Impact Last Alert

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System ATLAS. The comet is currently
between the orbits of Jupiter and Saturn,

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a billion kilometers from Earth, and
it is falling inwards, moving on an

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orbit that will bring it within fifty
nine million kilometers of the Sun in September

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twenty four. That's not too long
away, folks. The fact the comet

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was found while it was so far
away is part of the reason for the

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stromer's excitement. Although currently some sixty
thousand times too faint to see with the

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naked eye, the comet is bright
for something so far from the Sun,

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and observations suggests it's following an orbit
that could allow it to become truly spectacular.

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There's that word again, and this
is a recipe for comet greatness.

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It's all down to a combination of
the comet's path through the Solar system and

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the potential size of its nucleus,
the solid center. As comets swing closer

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to the Sun, they heat up
and their surface ice is sublime that is

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turned from solid to a gas erupting
from the comet's surface. This gas carries

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along dust and it shrouds the nucleus
is in what we call the coma,

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a giant cloud of gas and dust, and the coma is then pushed away

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from the Sun by solar wind,
resulting in the long tail or tails pointing

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directly away from the Sun. And
the closer the comet gets to the Sun,

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the hotter the surface becomes and the
more active it becomes. Historically,

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a vast majority of the brightest,
most spectacular comets have followed orbits that brought

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them closer to the Sun than the
Earth's orbit, and the closer, the

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better and touching chang or such a
chang atlas certainly ticks that box. In

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fact, this new comet seems to
tick all the boxes. It appears to

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have a sizeable nucleus, making it
brighter or bright enough to be discovered so

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far from the Sun. So that's
a dead giveaway. It is destined to

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have a very close encounter with our
star, and the kicker it will then

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pass almost directly between the Earth and
the Sun, and that is extremely exciting,

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approaching within seventy million kilometers of us
just two weeks after perihelion, and

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that is the closest approach to the
Sun. The closer the comet comes to

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Earth, the brighter it will appear
to us. Now, imagine put that

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all together, and you have a
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brightly as the brighter stars. Some
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it might be one hundred times brighter. Still just hold that thought now.

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The curse of prediction is something that
astronomers have had to deal with many times

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in the past. Predicting how newly
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Some may be spectacular, while others
just are a fizzer. Take,

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for example, comet Kurhutech in nineteen
seventy three. Now you might imagine me,

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ten year old Steve gazing up in
the backyard of our place in Maitland,

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in the hunt of Valley here,
looking desperately to see comet Kurhutec,

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which I did see, and it
was wonderful, Like such a chang atlas,

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Kuhutek was discovered unusually far from the
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swung close to our star. Cue
the hype. Astronomers promised the public the

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comet of the century protecting Kurhutek would
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But comets are like Catskuhutec brightened as
it swung in towards the Sun,

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but more slowly than expected. Rather
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was only bright as the brighter stars, and faded quickly after Perihelian. It

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was still a good show, but
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Because of the hype, many dubed
Htec a bit of a disappointment. Well,

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I'm here to tell you that this
little astronomer didn't think so. I

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thought it was amazing. It turns
out that Cohutec was passing through the Inner

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Solar System for the very first time, and it had never come so close

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to the Sun. So the surface
was rich in highly volatile ice, which

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began to sublime when the comet was
still very far away. And at that

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great distance, the comet was so
much brighter than other more experienced comets,

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and that brightness suggested that the comet
would be truly spectacular. But as it

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came closer to the Sun, those
volatiles were exhausted, and the comet's final

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activity was less than initially predicted,
making it fainter. And there was a

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very real chance that such an jang
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the Inner Solar System for the very
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but it might. But if it
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less than predicted, a little less
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it may even fall apart. It
could be even worse. Comets are prone

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to disaster. They fragment, they
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Those coming into the Inner Solar System
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fragile. A recent example of such
a fragmentation was comet c twenty twenty f

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eight Swan. When Swan was discovered, it looked promising likely to become a

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naked eye object in May twenty twenty, But as it approached the sun,

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it suddenly brightened and then became fuzzy
and began to fade away, and by

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the time it should have been brightested, it all but disappeared, having fallen

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apart before our very eyes. On
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sometimes turn a good comet into a
great comet. Three years after Cahutec came

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Comet c. Nineteen seventy five V. One West, and it was a

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real beauty. It passed even closer
to the sun than such and chant Atlas

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will, and it was already dazzling
when at perihelium its nucleus broke into four

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pieces. That fragmentation event released a
huge amount of gas and dust, and

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the comet was brightened markedly, even
becoming visible in broad daylight. Can you

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imagine did you see it? Please
write to me and tell me all about

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it now. Will this one Chutch
and chan Atlas be worth the anticipation?

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Well, we won't know for sure
until we actually see it. We won't

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know if Chutch and chan Atlas will
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It could fall apart and it might
be a physit, or it could

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surprise us all it could brighten more
than expected, which would make for an

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amazing sight in the morning sky late
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or even better one in the evening
sky mid October twenty twenty four. We

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just don't know that. We'll get
our first hints in the months to come

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by tracking how the comet brightens as
it glides sunward, and we'll get our

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first indications as to its true fate. So keep your fingers crossed. Podcast

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Now you may well have heard of
SETI the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence, but

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have you heard of METI. METI
International is a scientific organization dedicated to transmitting

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powerful radio messages to extraterrestrial life if
there is any. NASA's europe A Clipper

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spacecraft, headed to Jupiter's ice covered
moon Europer in October twenty twenty four,

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will carry a laser etched message that
celebrates humanity's connection to water. The message

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pays homage to NASA's missions that carried
similar messages as the President of Messaging It's

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Extraterrestrial Intelligent or METI International. I
helped design the message on Clipper with two

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fellow members of our board directors linguists
Sherry Wells Jensen and Laura Bassard Welcher.

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METI International is a scientific organization dedicated
to transmitting powerful messages to extraterrestrial life,

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said METI President Douglas Verkosh. We
collected audio recordings in one hundred and three

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languages, and we decided how to
convert these into waveforms that show these sounds

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visually. Colleagues from NASA etched these
waveforms into metal plate that shields the spacecraft's

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sensitive electronics from Jupiter's hears radiation.
He went or to say that he also

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designed another part of the message that
visually depicts the wavelength of water's constituents,

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because water is so important to the
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Now, etching messages into spacecraft isn't
a new practice, and Clipper's message fits

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into a decade's old traditions started by
astronomer Carl Sayagen in nineteen seventy two and

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nineteen seventy three, two pioneer spacecraft
headed to Jupiter and Saturn, carrying metal

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plaques engraved with the scientific and pictorial
messages. In nineteen seventy three, two

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Voyager spacecraft headed to Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune bearing gold plated

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copper phonograph records. These records contain
tutorials in mathematics and chemistry, as well

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as music, photographs, and sounds
of Earth and greetings in fifty five languages.

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As water is essential for life on
Earth, searching for its presence elsewhere

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has been a key to many nasamissions. Astronomers suspect that Europa, where Clipper

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is headed, has an ocean underneath
its icy surface, making it a prime

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candidate for the search of life in
the outer Solar System. Part of the

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Clipper message features the word for water
in one hundred and three languages. The

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one hundred and three spoken words that
were recorded represent a global snapshot of the

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diversity of Earth's languages. The outward
facing side of the Clipper plate shows the

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words as waveforms that track the varying
intensity of sound as each word is spoken.

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Each person that was recorded saying the
word water for the waveform had a

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connection to water. For example,
the lawyer who contributed the word for water

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in Uzbek. Souf organizes an annual
music festival in Uzbekistan to raise awareness of

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the desertification of the Aral Sea.
The native speaker for the Catalan water word

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Agua. Hunts for exoplanets, discovering
potentially habitable planets that orbit other stars.

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Clipper's message also pays homage to astronomer
Frank Drake, the father of SETI the

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search for extraterrestrial intelligence, by bearing
the Drake equation, his namesake formula.

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By drawing on scientific data as well
as some best guess hunters, the Drake

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equation estimates the number of extraterrestrial civilizations
in the galaxy currently sending messages to the

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cosmos. By one widely quoted estimate, there are a tenth as many of

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these extraterrestrial civilizations as one's average lifetime
in years. If civilizations survive for a

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million years, for example, there
should be about one hundred thousand in the

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galaxy. If civilizations last only a
century, on average, scientists would estimate

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that about ten exist. Radio astronomers
study the universe by examining the radiation that

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chemical elements in space give off.
They spend much of their time mapping the

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distribution of the most abundant chemical in
the universe, hydrogen. Hydrogen emits radiation

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at a certain frequency called the hydrogen
line, which radio telescopes can detect.

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During Project Osma, the first modern
day SETI experiment, Drake looked for artificial

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signals at the same frequency because he
figured scientists on other worlds might recognize hydrogen

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as universally significant and broadcast signals at
that frequency. As the team developed the

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water words message, they realized that
the message would only make sense if it

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were discovered by somebody already familiar with
the contents inscribed on the plate. The

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Drake equation would only make sense if
someone already knew what each of the terms

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in the equation stood for. The
Eurobic Clipper will crash into Jupiter or one

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of its other moons, with Ganymede
or Callisto the leading candidates. But if

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for some reason the mission changes and
it survives that fate, then humans far

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in the future with radically different cultural
background and different language conventions may retrieve it

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millennia from now as an ancient artifact. To ensure that at least one part

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of the message was understandable to a
future scientist. They designed a pictorial representation

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of the same frequency that Drake used
for the Project Osma, the hydrogen line.

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This was engraved on the cripper plate
along with the frequency called the hydroxyl

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line. When hydrogen H plus and
hydroxyl oh minus combine, they form water.

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Scientists call the range of frequencies between
these lines the water hole. The

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water hole represents the part of the
radio spectrum where astronomers conducted the first SETI

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experiments. While designing the message for
the Europa Clipper, they got to reflect

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on the importance of water on Earth
and think about why astronomers feel so compelled

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to search for it beneath the icy
crust of Jupiter's moon. Europa Europa Clipper

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is scheduled to enter Jupiter's orbit in
April twenty thirty. And that's about all

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