Welcome to See What the Potty RICTA. I'm Aaron Frescus, and with me
as always are my lovely co hosts Joseph beg Castro and Chris Chapman. And
in this episode, we'll be finishing up the summary for Arnold's most recent entry
in the Terminator franchise, twenty nineteen's Terminator Dark Fate. All right, let's
get back into it. So, I guess take it away, Chris.
So oh, Now we cut to an American Border Patrol compound. The Terminator
shows up to murder that stupid asshole Terrence, and since he's already there,
he also decides to use their surveillance equipment to locate Danny. Stupid asshole Terrence.
Yeah, oh wait that he's just like stabbing people and then like,
yeah, that's the guy who talks shit to he's disguised as the females.
Yeah, and like he's like there's obviously like stabbing gushy noises and the guys
groaning, and the two other guys don't turn down. The two guys at
the computer just do not give a fuck. They're in the zone. Man,
We've all been there. They just really hate Terrence and that's what I'm
saying. Everybody fucking hats Terrence. You'll notice the other guy did not immediately
scream or say anything. He was like, yeah, you had it coming.
He's like, wait, why what are you stepping me too? It
was we were cool. It was one of my favorite lines of the movie
where she comes in and sits like, oh, it didn't bring down and
she's like, shut the fuck up, Terrence, and then just stamps delivery
kills him. That's great anyway. So he's using all this equipment to locate
where they are and finds them, you know, out there walking towards wherever
they're going to cross the border. As Grace notices the drone that spotted them,
the terminator notifies border patrol of their destination and claims that they are members
of a cartel. When they officially cross the border, like actually go under
the wall and come back up on the other side, they find the border
patrol waiting for them. As everyone is being detained. The terminator tries to
suicide a drone and blow them all up, but Grace saves Danny at the
very last second. Okay, I only have one note for the scene,
and it is uh that Toxic Song by Britney Spears is pretty damn good.
That's true fret song. I was watching, Sorry, I was watching the
scene in the car earlier today when I was waiting for Erica to get back
from wine testing, and the Brew was playing in the parking lot, and
I was like, I like this song, and I can realized. I
realized that I realized that I wasn't paying this in the movie because I was
like singing along, like I was like, jam into the song. I
was like, okay, cool, and it is a good song. Yeah.
Also, so Teo is with them. It means uncle in English.
I thought you were talking about Torell Owens. Yeah, it's t O.
So he's with them and maybe he blows up and the the drone crashes or
something. Oh no, no, no he's not with them. Then he
left him or he Yeah, so they all got off the boat. His
little assistant dude is the one who actually goes through. Okay, well they
never left the boat. Yeah they okay, Well, because they never mentioned
he'd like, there's absolutely nothing, because they do say one male, there's
absolutely nothing with no it was the yeah that was given them ship about okay,
robots huh, Yeah, it's junior coyote. Like they just totally like
throw throw him away in this movie. Yeah, what why did all the
brown guys die in this movie? Uh, Danny's dead parents, Danny's brother
parents, fucking junior coyote, Junior coyote, coyotito. Even even the one
like military guy later gets shut up. We don't know if he dies.
I got a note about that. Yep, probably does, Terminator. He's
brown. He dies, Hey, that was his choice. Okay, he
could have been whatever he wanted to. I don't know why. I'm defending
the white people now, all right. Anyway, So everyone is now taken
to a detention center in Laredo, with Grace being put in the infirmary from
the injuries sustained in the drune crash. As Danny tries to get a border
agent to believe her story, the doctors try to figure out what the hell
Grace is, and the Terminator infiltrates the detention facility. My note here is
fre Delicious is not a good song, and it's annoying to have the last
song you listen to because it's been stuck in my head all day. So
yes, my note here is that. I really like how the terminator knows
to anglicize his pronunciations because when he goes and asks for Danny, he goes,
I'm here to pick up a new detainee, Danny Ramos. Yeah.
Well, once he gets to Texas, he fucking hands it up like he's
all in. He's like, these fucking white people love me shit exactly.
He knows his audience. Yeah, that's right. He's like they're like,
yeah, he's one of the good ones because they think about him. Also,
they did a fucking great job on Grace's makeup, like the scars and
like yeah, just like every single thing with it. It's and I have
something that I know there's something in the trivia that says how much work they
put into it. But like just because she's got pretty much scars with like
any sort of like like a not insertion point, but just like wherever,
I mean, there's scars like everywhere. Yeah, there's lines going like there's
big line scars going down a bunch of different places, basically cutting up her
body into segments where it's clear they had to like peel back her body to
insert all the different stuff. Like they even on her face, like you
can see like under her eyes where they kind of like had to cut her
out, probably around her skull. Yeah, so pretty good, like subtle
makeup work. I didn't really notice it until like the third time I watched
it. It's like Grace and her scalpel. There it is ladies and gentlemen.
Oh okay, I went. I was trying to think of like,
well, well, like I was like trying to think of like like if
the only thing I think of is like if this was under the monarchy,
She's Grace under sire. That's all I got. But then like Pyre and
I was like, does not that mean just mean fire? I don't know.
Then I realized I don't know what Pyate means. So I mean she
had a bad she was Grace under dire circumstances. So I gotta I gotta
say these in sprinkle mounts. Yeah. Oh oh oh, okay, see
you know what, you know. What's annoying about the scene, like the
scene before this too, is like they didn't tell Danny that she was a
thing. So if you think about it, she was really Grace under liar.
Okay, are they under the fence? I mean, yeah, it
was a fence, but it was kind of it was still Grace under Wire.
Yeah. Yeah, No one's going to get these jokes. That's not
our that's literally just for us. There was a sitcom in the nineties.
He's starring comedian Brett Butler. Baseball players actually baseball player Brett Butler. Yeah
no, she took time off from playing baseball to be a comedian and then
have a TV show. Anyway, So, as Sarah tries to break out
of the holding area, a federal agent comes to take her to a special
cell, seeing as how she's a wanted domestic terrorist. Grace wakes up,
takes some medicine, and steals some more clothes to go save Danny as the
terminator searches for her in the crowd of prisoners. Okay, so she probably
killed that dude whose head she smashed against the wall, I'm assuming almost certainly,
Okay, because she does it pretty hard with like a big tension,
which whatever, Like it almost made me feel as bad for him as like
the I think there's a little skinny guy who gets thrown against a pole like
in Terminator two. Yeah, and I remember feeling bad for him too,
like when I like when I saw when I was little. I was like
that, okay, wasn't doing anything. But then like you know, also,
uh, Grace says, Grace calls them, she asks where they take
the prisoners. So there's the whole thing of this scene basically. So she
she gets up and she walks over to where they're like looking at her x
rays because they have noticed that she's clearly not fucking normal. So they're looking
at her x rays and she looks down at them and she's like, I
didn't give your permission to look at my private parts. And then she slams
the dude's head into a wall. She asks where do they take the prisoners?
The lady answers back, we call them detainees now, and she like
steps towards her threateningly, and she like and then she just tells him where
the where they send the prisoners. She's well, then she's like slaps Jatifer.
But like they okay, okay. So I couldn't tell whether or not
the writers were like trying to like make some sort of like uh oh,
they were absolutely making a statement. Yeah, like like because with the private
parts thing too, because basically because a lot of sexual assault goes oh yes,
okay, So yeah, so they're clearly trying to make statement. Okay,
cool, Like I just caught it when they made it super obvious,
Like I don't get the subtle stuff because I'm either drunk or stupid. But
like, but like right when she says like de teenage, I was like,
okay, well, they're definitely trying to say something here, which oneever
but like yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah, it's it's less subtle in
places, and it just kind of sticks out. It's nice to get.
It's nice to get when you when it's when it is subtle. But it's
also nice when they pointed out because some people are too stupid myself because I
definitely would have got that, like if you would have pointed if they wouldn't
had that line, and then you would have point out, like well yeah,
I would like oh okay, I guess yeah, all right, yeah,
okay, cool, al right. Uh So Grace spots the terminator,
uh sees that he's looking for Danny and sets off the fire alarm, which
also gives Sarah the opportunity to kick the shit out of that smarmy ass fed
and uh man, I don't know if it's like Linda Hamilton that I like
or just nostalgia. But I really love watching Sarah Connor kick the ship out
of cocky cops. It's just fun. Yeah, I mean I like watching
Sarah Khana kick the shit out of anybody, so like very true cocky cops
getting the shit kicked out of him. So hm. Also, I also
thought that that guy was gonna have a little more of a like, yeah,
I'm kind of wondering if that guy's got a deleted scene or something.
Yeah, just because like usually they don't, you don't give lines to people.
He had lines, and he was also like he's verily playing it up.
Yeah, like in his performance. Maybe he was just like this shot,
this mus shot. He's like, you like watch Hamilton the night before.
He is like, yeah, he's not get I'm not gonna waste the
shot, you know. So like I feel like this movie just does that
in general, there's a lot more stuff that could be added to it,
and the movie's only like two hours long, but like there's so much more
I guess exposition or backstory or other ship that could be said and done that
they just don't and this movie suffers for it. Yeah. So at this
point, the Terminator, the Terminator spots, Danny kills a bunch of Border
Patrol agents as Grays and Danny go outside and steal a helicopter again like they
all die. I like his venom symbia powers too, like it. Yeah,
that was That was like a good idea because basically what happens is he's
trying to he's killing his way past individual guards and then all of a sudden
he gets mobbed by like ten dudes and he just sits there like shooting little
spikes of liquid Terminator out of himself to stab them all. That was kind
of cool. Is that venom? That that happened? I feel like that
happened in something else. I think that did happen. But that's the first
thing I thought of, because he can do that, correct, Like,
yeah, yeah, he can do it. Yeah, so it happened in
Terminator Dark Fate. Okay, oh shit, I always forget about that.
Yeah, no one ever talks about it, like like he would spend like
more time than the run time of the action movie, like talking about this
fucking movie. Yeah, nobody has thought about that movie. Or Yeah,
so Grace in the helicopter tries to ditch Sarah, but Danny Walt letter and
they barely get away from the terminator. There's another thing where I'm like,
I don't know, but just okay, nothing just with the way Danny like
it's all of a sudden like no, I'm not gonna leave her. I'm
like, okay, I don't know. It's it's just like them like not
doing a very good job of trying to make it seem like like like trying
to make her the strong the character that they eventually make her into. But
like, ye, it's it's but it's making bad decisions with it. So
it's like obviously like jumping out to face to shoot a terminator. That's when
when this person told you you need to survive so that the rest of us
can survive. But then like I don't know anyway, go ahead, yeah,
let's see the terminator. Then goes to sweet talk some other white cops
to try and find his own chopper real quick, about what you said.
That's the exact same thing that John did int or two with saving his his
mom, but he didn't hop out of the fucking car when they were driving
away just to save someone else. Like no, I I don't know,
I'm saying like it made a lot of sense and too, because like we
have to go save my mom, and you know, Uncle Bob's like that's
not my mission, but we're gonna do it in this movie. She's just
like, eah, I'll fucking go do it real quick, and you're supposed
to like believe, like, oh, she's like the savior man. Yeah,
and then I have a note with with that like thing you just mentioned
the next one, but next thingame, but go ahead. That was all
I had to say about that that he sweet, he sweet, talks some
some cops and then he goes off to find his own helicopter. Yes,
so okay, So Grace lectures Danny pretty much saying the exact same thing that
Sarah told John after he rescued her from the hospital in the second one,
like pretty I'm I didn't go back and look, but I'm pretty much it's
pretty much the exact same thing. It's very similar. Yeah, Like because
you see Sarah sitting there and then like kind of thinking about it for a
second, and while Danny kind of kind of doesn't look at her, but
kind of like I think kind of like went toward like like what the fuck
man, and Sarah's like, yeah, she's right, Yeah, so see
it made me think of remember the episode from The Simpsons. Bart's comment comment
were they all getting like the uh Flanders is bomb shelter and they're all trying
to guess the animal noises and then Homer ends up makes the sound of a
baby ox and then Homer leaves and he's like, he's right, you know,
like what about the baby ox? About everything? Damn it? Uh,
that's what That's the only thing I thought of in that scene, even
like parallel with Nope, she's right, you know about what about everything?
Damnit? I only got it the last time I was watching. That's why,
that's why I really wanted to finish this, because I started seeing more
parallels for the like terminor two when I was watching this time, but I
didn't get a chance to But yeah, that was definitely it was pretty much
the exacts. She tells the exact same thing. She because I like,
I wish I could like you in a second. What she what she's telling
her is just it's like, you can't you can't do that, you don't
important you are basically you can't do stupid ship like that. Yeah, exactly,
like you cannot put yourself at risk. You uh, he would have
killed me. That doesn't matter what like when you get what, like again,
like when are you gonna get it? Everybody dies if you don't make
it so. And then she's like and does the same exact thing that John
does, like fucking starts pouting, and then Sarah is pretty much like Sarah
just leans over it, like no, she's right, yeah about what that
she can't do that you gotta you gotta You shouldn't have come for me and
all that stuff like what Sarah was yelling at John about I know I was
setting you up for about everything. Damn it. Oh yeah, sorry,
I got to uh now the ladies arrive at the coordinates. Oh wait,
wait one second. Sorry, A quick thing about when he talks to those
Texas rangers. He just murdered a shipload of people, and he's still walking
around without changing himself, without anyone trying to arrest him. So there's cameras
everywhere. Did he kill everybody in there? Yeah? I guess that's true.
I mean, yeah, no, that's that's a solid point. He
just murdered a fuck load of border patrol and there was a shipload of people.
Unless you went around killing everybody, maybe that like, terminators just don't
know how witnesses work. They're like, you'll be fine, I didn't change,
but yeah, you think it would at least change to like, like
a white person, because then they definitely wouldn't suspect him, right, you
know anyway, Well, yeah, but he plays it up, Yes he
does. He does do it? Yeah, fellas. Yeah, also,
okay, we we didn't mention this earlier, but uh, it's so stupid.
But I really like the fucking line where uh he's going through the metal
detector. He's like, that's gonna be beeping because my whole body is a
weapon. And save it for the ladies. Save it for the ladies.
I'm just like, all right, that's so stupid. But I don't know,
all right, I am a child. This terminator came with a sense
of human Yes, I don't have to learn. I now know why you
laugh. It's something I kind of do. I know now why you giggle.
Okay, So they arrive at the court That's and find a family home
in the woods that apparently belongs to Carl of Carl's Drapery's. They knock on
the door and it opens to reveal Arnold and Sarah immediately tries to kill him,
but is stopped by Grace. I was just gonna say I really like
it before he answers the door, he's fucking watching footballyeah. Okay, that's
exactly say. He's watching a football game when they knock on the door.
I wonder if he actually learned to like football or he's just doing it because
you know, that's what people do. I think he learned to like football
because we find out later he's basically a doomsday prepper. And like, I'm
pretty sure this version of Arnold's terminator has a red hat or two in his
close I'm almost certain it's like, yeah, it was college football too,
which is the shy version of football. I mean, unless you like have
an alma mater, right, then it's super awesome, isn't it if they're
actually good? I guss Anyway, But his kid's too young to be in
college, and he obviously never went to college, so he's just a fan
of football. Yep, exactly, So it is in fact confirmed. In
fact, he confirms it that this is the same Arnold who murdered John,
although he seems much nicer ne Yeah, so Sarah stomps away when she realizes
they're not gonna let her murder anyone, and Danny goes after her to talk.
She finds Sarah grieving over John, and then they eventually come back a
little more calmly. First off, Linda Hamilton does a great job in like
both of these this is such a good fucking acting sense, like the one
where she's alone in the woods and talking about how she doesn't have a picture
of John. Yes, that was such a good fucking scene, and especially
when she like freaks out when she first season two. Yeah, yeah,
but uh it's okay, So she doesn't have a picture of him John that
they Yeah, she says that she thought the he would be much harder to
find if they didn't know what he looked. Okay, So how did the
original terminator find her in the bar? Like what was it? Club Noir?
Did he? Yes? So did he recognize her? Or because I
don't remember, I actually don't remember, or did he like not recognize the
first one? Yes? The first one? And then Kylerie shot him right
away, so like I don't didn't don't actually remember what happens that in that
bar? He goes out and kills all the Sarah Connors yeah, but I
believe she calls no, she calls Ginger, she tells where she's gonna be.
She yeah, because he's at her. Okay, So he goes to
all the different Sarah Connor's house is like Sarah Kana yes, and then then
he goes to actual Sarah Connor's house or actual like not actually Sarah Lynn Hamilton.
Sarahunner kills Ginger in her boyfriend Mike I believe it is his name.
Uh, and then you know, can see pictures and ships. Oh okay,
so we saw the picture. Okay. Yeah, she calls and is
like, I'm at this place called tech Noir and then he rolls there and
then he knows what Okay, so now he knows what she looks like.
Okay, I don't remember the that he sees all that stuff. That's why
I was like, say, wait, so how did he see her?
Like? How did he know who it was when? But yeah, he
saw her picture? Okay, But that also doesn't make sense here because howard
you know what child John Connor looks like? However, how would terminator uncle
Bob no what child John looks like? But I guess he was. He's
the one run by John right, yeah, I want to send him back.
But he's like, oh, I was like I had some like hair,
I was wearing like a public enemy shirt. Just find the kid who's
well, but he's a real ship back then. Yeah, he also knows
what happens though, so he can be like, no, you went and
found me at the true yea, I ran out to you at the mall,
at the mall, the Arcada, No, the the galerya, the
galeria. Thank you. He's like, think of like a young woman,
I'm with this ginger kid with a fucking mullet. What what does a mullet?
He's like, I'm with the guy from Slater shorts and then he shows
some shorts. What does the mullet show it? Just because he likes it?
Okay, So the second thime was Grace. Grace asks if I asked
Carl if he's a terminator, and he asks what she is. So he
says, may I ask what you are? And Grace said, she says
no. Grace tells him no, and I can't remember. They can see
through stuff, right, so like okay, so he can see through her
and he's just like, well he can he can see that she's not a
human. Okay, So I was just I was just trying to remember I
like, well, like when he because he scanned her, so like yeah,
so he can see through her, and he's just like, what the
fuck are you basically because I've never seen anything on you? Okay, cool.
I was just curious if, like he's like, okay, yeah,
she's a humanator. Yeah, I just meant that human door and she's just
like a anyway, helps him with the cigars. Yeah, he's like perfect
anyway, So back of the house. Uh. Carl prepares some coronas and
then tells the story of his life since killing John, how he was left
without a purpose, met his wife Alicia and her son Matteo, and saved
them from her abusive husband, and also about how he can sense when a
time portal is going to open, so he sends the times and locations to
Sarah to help give her life purpose, trying to make up for killing John
in some way. This all just makes Sarah way more mad, and she
fucking decides to shoot him anyway makes sense to me. She shoots him three
times in the chest and you get one of my favorite lines, which is,
this would be very hard to explain to Alicia, which I have written
down to and another note real quick, so we know, I already know
that they can they heal and whatnot like real people, right, yeah,
because they're flesh. Okay, yeah, I'm curious to be heal slower when
as he gets older though, like a real person, and it definitely seems
like he bleeds less than a normal person. And also I'm curious how long
the life span of a terminator is because if that skin is aging and eventually
it's like gonna be either it's either super gross and like the the term like
the skeleton underneath this is fine, or just like the machine decides to shut
off. When I was thinking the exact same thing, I think that eventually
their skin would just kind of fall off. Yeah yeah, like slough off.
Maybe that's what happened with the ones walking out of the ocean. He
just got all gross in the water and it eventually drifted off of it when
they walk out. They're just scoutons. I don't know, let's see.
So then Carl gives a speech about fate and choices and says that he has
decided to help them protect Danny. Then his family comes home, so he
puts on a shirt to hide his bullet holes and helps them with the groceries.
Later on, they're sitting outside and Carl explains that he has no physical
relationship with Alisha and that they that his family does not know he is a
terminator, and again a very good line. He's describing why Alicia is with
him, and he goes, I'm reliable, I'm a good listener, and
I'm extremely funy, which we know to be true obviously, but it's good
to hear him say it. Okay, So there's Cracked article that was complaining
about this movie, Like they pointed out that the scene in particular bugged in
because of the fact that he's putting a dog and dogs don't like terminators.
Mmm, that's true, but I really don't understand how they don't get that
they're trying to show that, like that he's more human exactly, that he's
becoming human enough toward the dog trust them. Yeah, Like, yeah,
well, I mean regardless one way or the other, And that is exactly
what does gon'na say. That still doesn't make sense because we don't actually know
what makes dogs bark at terminators. It's not just like having a con because
like we didn't like maybe they could have no pun intended thrown us a bone
and uh terminator two. You know, once he learned to love or whatever,
and there was some dog out there that was like cool with Arnold or
whatever or even fucking Genesis or something. But it was just like this particular
scene, like why is that dog cool with him now just because he is
not trying to kill humans? Or I think that's what they were trying to
do. But like, also think you got a good point, like maybe
like maybe that dogs hate it's not that the dogs, well it's more than
just like the dogs don't hate terminators just because they're strangers. Like that much
is clear. Yes, it's like humans, like human strangers come in and
out of the resistance all the time, and if that were the case,
they couldn't use dogs to root out terminators. So there's something innate about a
terminator that makes the dogs. Maybe terminator hearts are like actually like milk bones.
Yeah yeah, like no, no, like cats like on on like
wheels or something like that, like where they're spinning out like the dogs.
Yeah, yeah, like a hamster wheel. But it's like a cat and
the like I don't know that's all I can think of, Oh, that's
why Scott and that's so powerful. They figured out how to make cats do
so exactly, and also say, if there's a fucking cat in its heart,
the terminators would not go anywhere, Like the terminators would not turn on,
Like what the fuck are you talking about. I also kind of liked
that they were subtle enough about this like little thing with the dog, and
didn't point it out with very poorly inserted dialogue that I think that sorry gennis
Is probably would have done with, like that's strange. Dogs usually hate terminators,
like it was just something that was there. Honestly, I was kind
of wondering if Arnold just brought his dog on set. All right, you're
not gonna let me have a stogying my dog. They're like, all this
works great because you know, terminate her dogs. He's like they do or
dogs hay terminators. Yeah, yeah, have you seen Batman and Robin I'm
just a freeze. I'm smoking a cigaal it all doesn't make sense. Also,
I don't believe that it's not a physical relationship because at some point,
like Alicia is gonna be like, you know, use your fucking robot hand
and turn into a little vibrator or something. Yeah, Like I mean the
girl like it's been like twenty years. The girl's got to get something,
you know. And as we discussed before on the Genesis episode, you know,
there's the boner protocol because if you're an infiltration unit, like you can't
just have you can't have him with with no dick. You know, you
gotta like because that's an easy to weed out tormnaders, So you gotta like
do that and like show some porn guy girl like whatever in BC ally something
and that boner has gotta go up so we know he has a and we
know we can get a boner, right, there's a bonu protocol. So
at some point, like she's got to be like like can you can you
help me out here or something? Can you just lay there? At least
it's like it just makes me laugh, like because like the way he would
like have sex because he's not gonna enjoy it. So it's like, ah,
yes, that is very good. I'm enjoying this too. Yes,
please keep riding me. Would you like me to hit it from behind?
I can rub turus at the same time, look at those things, look
at your mammories look very nice. Okay, I love he gets really awkward.
I'm just I'm just saying, what if they just have an open relationship.
Yeah, it also makes sense. Back in high school, we had
some like old This was like late nineties, so world there's some like old
Mac computers, and they would do like the audio of the name file.
So since we're high school boys, we named it like all sorts of dumb
shit, but we named one of them, I love big titties in my
face. But it was like I love big tities in my face. It
couldn't say titties for some reason. So that's how I imagine Carl would be
in a sexual situation with Lisa, like show me them tities. It's like,
no, it's titties, like just I love them. She's got to
know he's a robot, just with the little stuff, so she's like,
I'm just I'm just gonna ignore the fact that the robot and he doesn't actually
know how normal people are. That would be great if she one hundred percent
knows but hasn't told him that she knows. I figured out, like,
oh does that feel good? Baby affirmative? What? Yeah, So all
four of them form a plan saying to kill the terminator, to actually fight
and not just run away, and Carl shows them his prepper shed full of
guns so real quick before that. So they say that they want to use
Danny as bait, right, basically, that's that's Sarah's plan. Yeah,
okay, let's pick our location, form a kill box and put Danny there
to lure the term. Okay. So then Grace objects and then by like
jokingly saying, she's like, no, there's no fucking way we're doing this.
I will hide her at the bottom of mine shaft. I have to.
And I love that Danny takes that literally and she's like, I Am
not going to hide at the bottom of mine shaft, like gets up like
no, no. That's when she objects. I would argue that Grace might
meet it literally, like Grace seems like she's one hundred percent in like no,
no, no, let's cement you up in a in a fucking dark
box at the bottom of the ocean if it'll make you survive the apocalypse,
Like yeah, that she's not considering. I don't know. It's such a
weird plan that she has. She's not considering the fact that if they don't
confront the terminator. She's gonna keep chasing them. It's just gonna keep chasing
them. Like what the fuck are you gonna do about it? You can't
just make her survive past judgment day and all of a sudden the problem solved.
The terminator will still be there, Like, what the are you talking
about? I don't know. So, yeah, unless you know someone at
NASSA and then go to the moon. But Davin, people even go to
the moon anymore. I mean, that's kind of the same energy you get
from Tomato one or two. They're not like, let's go fight this terminator
to get away from it. I guess that's true. Yeah, but when
you wanted to use Danny as bait for me because she's that's why the Terminator's
really really just super into I don't know why, but that seed from the
Big Lebowski like popped in the head where the dream siccrets when he's like dancing
towards a towards Julian Moore exactly. But Joe doing that as a terminator like
that, I love it all right. So he pulls them into a shed
full of guns. They basically ask him why he has all these guns,
and he's like, even if Judgment Day doesn't happen, I still calculate a
seventy four percent chance that the human race will descend into barbarism. And then
he goes and also, this is Texas. That's funny. Next we see
Danny learning how to shoot in preparation for the coming fight. Grace notes that
they need something better than all these guns to kill the terminator, and Carl
states that their only real option for that would be an EMP, to which
Sarah replies that she has a contact who might be able to get one for
them, an Air Force intelligence officer at the Bingham Air Force Base in Texas.
Well, she didn't state that, She says that, she just says
I might know a guy. Arnold completes her on that. Yeah, just
never explained. Well, he basically says, like, he basically makes it
known that he's been fucking watching her. Yeah, she says, you've been
keeping me under surveillance, and he just goes, yes, Okay, Well,
I guess they do it spin so well, I mean, not well,
but they do. They mentioned it. So Carl tells his family goodbye
and that the house is no longer safe. So Alicia and Matteo leave and
the team heads out that afternoon. Uh quick question, do we know is
her name Alicia? Or is he just incapable of saying Alicia and keeps saying,
you can't say it. I don't know. He says, Alicia.
That's like a way you can't say it. I don't know. That's two
different names, Alicia and Alicia. It's the same name. It's the same.
It's not there's Alicia can be spelled with an e no. But but
I mean that's more of the the Spanish to Alicia is more Spanish. I
also like that he gives his iconic line, I won't be back family.
This scene was good like that. That's one of the ones that bothered me.
I was like, you already, you already did the i'll be back
thing. I don't see why you need to do it again. It's like,
I get it. They're they're flipping it a little bit, and he
doesn't. He doesn't say it like i'll be back. Yeah, he doesn't
say I won't be back. He just says it at the end of a
sentence. But I don't know. That one still rubbed me the wrong way.
Yeah, I like to set up to that where it's like, my
pass is cut up with me and everything second, So they they set out
to leave, but not before Sarah threatens to kill Carl again. Later we
see the Terminator in Carl's house and he sees a picture of Carl's van,
which is what the team is driving in. Later on, we see them
at an abandoned warehouse as they are waiting for the major. Sarah almost vomits
listening to Carl tell Danny a story about the finer points of interior design.
And I know that's a stupid joke, but that drape story apparently it wasn't.
Really that's amazing that that makes sense. Actually, the way that story
ends raised like he wanted the solid color and I said, no, you
must have balloons. Yeah yeah, that killed me. Yeah. So they
made up with Major and all this stuff happens. But like, this is
the frustrating thing about this movie, all right, like who is this major?
Who is this major? And what does he do? But but really,
why why does Sarah have a relationship with him? Like did they do
some stuff in the past? Does he believe in the terminators? I have
a note later that's like I would love a totally different movie. That's just
Sarah and the major like hunting down terminators over time, Like I have the
same exact note, here's an easy solution. Uh, he's Miles Dyson's wife's
brother. Boom, there it is right there, Miles Dyson's wife, Missus
Dyson. I don't know what the fuck her name is, Sally, we'll
call it Sally. Yeah, Sally is like uh or maybe not brother nephew.
I don't know. Maybe that's fucking Miles Dyson. Who fuck no,
he's in at age now his names his name's uh Deans. I looked because
I looked. Yeah, I looked because I double checked because I'm like,
wait, is this is this like someone that's important? No, you guys
like apparently like they didsh my notice like they did a ship job of studying
with the character. But it's not important because he has less screen time than
Miles Dyceon. Yeah, like a lot less. Yeah, but they could
have set that up. Why he fucking goes and helps her, Why he
believes in this, Why he's like, I'll get you on the thing,
like if he actually believes in it or if he feels obligated to do it
exactly, But and If so, why the fuck would he feel obligated to
do it? Like yeah, but yeah, maybe he's trying to take down
fucking sky Neett and ship from the inside, like you know, that's why
he's in the fucking army because he doesn't lot like these AI things like something,
just give me fucking something. He's just some random fucking dude that somehow
hates being around. Sarah Connor. But Ozer a favor for some reason because
he's the MPs. And even after that, after he's fucking shot for the
ship, get some of the planes, like I'll delay them for a while
to get you guys out of here. Why why, why? This is
what happens when you have David Goyer right in your movies, man, very
true Goyer more like goiter am I right, because it's like something you don't
want want in your movies anyway. We're like a go right anyways on all
right? Anyway, So this enigmatic name Major shows up and hands over a
briefcase with the EMP weapon in it. Grace hears a helicopter coming their way.
Moments before the terminator breaks the helicopter's like windshield and starts shooting them.
The Major gets shot in the gut, and everybody jumps in the van and
they drive away. And my only note here was man black guys who are
friends with Sarah Connor cannot catch a break at this franchise. So the van
gets away from the helicopter just long enough for the Major to get them access
to the Air Force base, where they commandeer a C five cargo plane with
the Major help. There's a little scene here where the terminator splits up and
stuff, but I didn't really mention it because it doesn't amount to anything really,
Like there's no I haven't not one about that. It's the skeleton by
uh Endo And yeah, the endoskeleton flies the helicopter. It's fine the helicopter.
And I'm curious if both both parts of that Rev nine have like a
little bit of a personality, like maybe maybe it's like a mice and men
situation where like if so, like the skeleton is probably Lenny, can the
skeleton is definitely Lenny, like to where like the T one thousand parts like
fucking George. Yeah, there's no where like we're to where like the skeleton
starts running into ship and then like you got fucking George, Like the the
t one thousand, and he's like, dude, come on, like but
he's like patient's patient with them, like George's too. He's like he's like,
come on, come on, work. Yeah exactly. I don't know.
I just I just really like the idea of the Endo skeleton getting like
stuck behind something you can't figure out how to get over it, and the
serminators just like, can you fucking come on? Man. He's like,
he's like, George, I can't figure it out, Like, yeah,
yeah, he could just go over there and help him, but he's like,
no, he's got an anyway. That's why they didn't catch them no
sooner, because it's constantly trying to teach them a lesson. Uh so oh
yeah, So they commandeer the cargo plane. The helicopter pursues the cargo plane
as it's taking off, with Sarah and Carl eventually taking down the chopper,
but not before the terminator gets close enough to jump out and grab the cargo
ramp. And my note here is if the fucking Air Force is not equipped
to take down that helicopter as soon as it gets within like a mile of
their base, what the fuck are we even? Like? How do they
not have like anti air shit or something at that base. Like, how
does that helicopter get into their airspace? Is my question. It just seems
stupid. A bunch of fucking amateurs. Let's see. Okay, so the
terminator is on the cargo ramp. It gets up and starts fighting between Sarah
and Carl. They do eventually get rid of the terminator by throwing Carl's van
at him, but Carl reveals that in all the shooting, the e MP
got destroyed, so they now have a very small chance of success. You
also see the Red nine landing and man, that steak Oh I just saw
it again. Looked fucking good. Steak doesn't because it was like perfect cross
across a ross mark the grol marks, Yeah, those cross grow marks.
I was like, it looks like a commercial like Applebee steak, because the
Applebee steaks always look good. Then you go to Applebee's and you're like,
what the fuck is this. They're listening to Dwight Yoakum guitarist Cadillac He'll billy
music. I would go to that party that's they're listening to what I thought
you said, did you ever listen to it? I was like, no,
it's a great song. Yeah, and once again very polite. He
apologizes for questioning Helgize, so Grace wants to Basically, after they find out
the EMP has broken, Grace wants to abandon the plan and go back to
running, but Danny's not having any of it. We get another future flashback
to show that Danny was the one who saved and recruited Grace to the resistance,
with future Danny giving a speech to rally all the humans together into an
army. And this is easily my least freezing part of the movie. Natalia
Reyes is like a perfectly good actor, but to pull off like the Savior
of Humanity thing, you need an exceptionally charismatic person and you need at the
bare minimum good writing. I would say borderline great writing if you want to
have a scene like this where she makes a rallying speech to get everybody to
come together. But this speech is just it's just kind of lame, and
it has the opposite effect where it just looks really stupid because the writing is
so bad, or they do it and like turn me one two and where
John says nothing, he just looks menacing. That's the other thing is there's
no reason to cut to the future and showed like a future. It could
just be Grace giving her little speech without cutting to the future. There's no
fucking point to it. But then again, if I saw her and she's
like, we gotta work together. Yeah, all right, my wife will
kill as many robots as you want me to. I'm single now. I'm
sorry, Laura, you died and you know the apocalypse, you know,
I gotta move on with my life, all right, we gotta we got
to recreate humanity. So but she's, yeah, but you will be soon,
hun, You're you're going to be the bait. All right, we
got to recreate humanity. Like what am I supposed to do? All right?
Come on, just getting out of Laura, I would day with you
in the acalypse, she doesn't kill you before then, Okay, So this,
this, this scene right here is where the writing for this character just
starts fucking failing for me, like it makes me like this just made me
remember that it's a movie, the complete one eighty where she's like, what
if matters is the choices we make now? And then like Grace is like
I heard this before. Okay, so I didn't finish my notes before watching
the movie and finishing my notes, so because I know it got worse because
I remember the last time I watched this with Erica. By the end,
I was like, dude, this this character. And I know it was
something with her fighting the terminator later, but it was like, this character
is so badly written, but it doesn't happen until like this part of the
movie, and I think what happened was so I was thinking about it,
which is also why it only got to this part because I started writing a
bunch of notes. But all the other characters start off pretty much badass,
and her, her character starts off like a little bit less like like a
like a less meek, like stronger version of Sarah from the first movie,
but then has pretty much the same arc like character arc that Sarah has going
in a Terminator two, but without the eight year difference or five year difference
or seven year whatever it is, because at least in the first movie,
like, yes, Sarah's pretty much the same person at the end of it
and shows like a hint of what you're gonna see Interminator two, but like,
but you saw that shit in Terminator two, Yes, exactly, exactly,
so so it's it's more believable that she is a completely badass because you
have those like what was eight years, seven years something like that, it
was eighty four to ninety one, I don't know, well, or so
it was eleven years, I mean because it was ninety five, right,
Yeah, it was eleven years, because okay, maybe eleven years. So
uh, it would have made it like, let's it would have made that
less believable if it happened in Terminator one, like in the first Terminator,
if all of a sudden at the end, she's like, fuck this terminator,
let's kill it, instead of being like fucking terrified of it the whole
time because it's a fucking terminator. It's something you've never seen before, even
though shit existed. Secondly, like I the fact that they didn't age her
at all in the future Danny, which is it's just a nippicking. But
it's like it just made it kind of like another reason where I was like,
like, they didn't bother to change her doll except for giving her fucking
like corn rows or something to show you she's fucking badass. Now, Yeah,
I don't that bothered the shit out of me. It shouldn't because it's
just a hairstyle. But it's such a weird choice it totally took me out
of it. Yeah, and we have black don't crack and Asian don't reason,
but we don't have brown don't brown, you know, Like that's what
it is, like, we don't we don't you know, like white people
we age. I guess brown people do too. I don't know. I
mean slower than white people for sure, but yeah, sure. But then
like again, Linda Hamilton between Okay with T two, Linda Hamilton worked her
fucking ass off to get in that crazy shape to like sell the idea that
Sarah's a fucking soldier now, and it made like a super drastic change from
where she came from. In the first time, they got rid of the
curly hair and they gave her a ponytail exactly, and with that were like,
holy shit, she's fucking like ponytail. Du she means, yes,
she straightened her she's straightening her hair now like or or I don't, I
don't know how she works. Well, it was the eighties, so not
like blowing at her hair or whatever. But yeah, but like for this
one, they just they throw some fucking dirt on her face and hey,
let's put her in some military surplus clothes, like it's just a complete one
andy, and I don't know, like, and it bugged me from here
on because all of a sudden the character switches, like once Grace mentions that
she was the savior. There's just I don't like the way stuff to pay
off for that. And it was bugging me at first, Like it was
annoying me that I was bugged by it because of how the fucking uh,
the fucking yes we're yes in cells were with this movie to where like,
yeah, fucking women, I was like, na, it was because the
writing didn't set her up correctly. Yeah, I also feel like they were
probably way more madic like the Grace character. Like my guess is that they
were way more mad at the Grace character. Sure, but like I also
was like those two the other two characters are fine, Like Grace and Sarah
are written fine. It's just and she was written fine, but they just
the switch with this was just it's not It was not good. Yeah,
there's absolutely nothing wrong, Like if you're taking Terminator one and two as you
know, like the Cannon, like the only Terminator movies that matter like it's
basically the Sarah Connor story, Like it's about her being a badass. So
any sort of like criticism about like, oh, they're trying to make women
tough like bitch if you watch the fucking first two movies. Yeah, so
that whole argument is bullshit. However, it's not what they like the idea
that they did in this movie, it's how they did it, like ex
because they fucking did a terrible job and it has nothing to do with the
fact that Danny's woman or anything. Just they did a fucking dog shit job.
Like you can do a dogshit job about anything, you know, this
is still a dog shit job. If they would have done the same thing,
they would have done like the First Terminator, it would have worked to
where like at the end she kind of like you see at the very ende
where she's like, oh yeah, I'm like growing, like uh, like
pretty much how the end of the movie ends to Whards, She's like,
I've been hanging out with Grace, you know, I'm fucking getting my my
fucking I'm been going to boxing classes. I've been doing this. I don't
know what. I didn't watch the end again, like it so is that
how it ends probably yeah, yeah, but they were acting like there's not
gonna be another movie. Basically, yeah, they shoehorned it, like they
forced it in there, and like it made me appreciate the way James Caeron
did it. I guess it didn't seem as forced, but maybe that was
because it's so much time in passed. Yeah, they just didn't need the
scene of her in the future. And there are other bad parts of it
too. Oh, there's plenty of other bad parts. But if they would
have just cut that out, then it would have been like more believable.
I guess, I don't know. Yeah, like I said, this is
easily my least favorite scene. But then if you don't have this scene in
the movie all of a sudden, like if you I don't know, because
again I didn't watch past the scene. So like all, she she changed,
this character changes after this right going forward in this like not in flashbacks,
but in this right because she's pretty much like a badass now. I
mean, she's not a badass, she's in the background, but she changes
in that She's Yeah, she changes in that. It seems like she has
gained a bit of confidence. Yeah, and I do think that is unharmed
confidence, yes, because nothing has changed the things and she finding out that
you're the savor of humanity does not. Yeah, yeah, it just doesn't.
That's not how it works. Like I said, the thing that bothers
me about this is that they didn't need to go to the future because you
could have just had Grace give her little speech about how like like again,
that voiceover is already there at the end of the flashback. You could have
just had that be the scene. There's just no, it's so jarring to
see her in the future, especially that she looks exactly the same. Just
that that was the thing that threw me off the most. And it doesn't
work because if you're going to show that, you have to concretely show me
why she is the leader of humanity, like the leader of the resistance,
and that flashback does nothing to do that. It doesn't. The speech is
lame. She doesn't look all that intimidating or anything like that. But she
doesn't look that inspiring. I just like, but she's hot though, yeah,
or maybe she had a gun, like and she's like listen to me,
motherfuckers, like you're gonna this and everything I do and then I'll be
like, Okay, well that makes sense because she has a gun and they
don't, like, you know, it's like a trophy drama thing. He's
like, you don't need courage when you have a gun. I was like,
okay, you yeah, yeah. Anyway, this seems a piece of
shit. So, like we've been talking about, it's revealed here that Danny
is not the mother of Humanity Savior, but she is Humanity Savior. Again,
I just don't understand what the point is it was, what the point
was of trying to make that reveal. It seemed very clear to me from
the very beginning. But around this time a refueling jet shows up. It
becomes apparent pretty quickly that it's actually the terminator who has killed the refueling jets
crew quick house. So Grace gives that no fate line too, Oh yeah,
she does. She there is no fate, but what we make for
ourselves is what she's And then Sarah gets half a chub. Yeah, which
is actually a cut scene from the first movie. Oh was it, Yeah,
that you got to have a chubb? Yes, No, Reese saying
there's no fate, but what we make. That's why John says it in
the second movie. Oh really, so my all my stuff about the closed
time loop and everything is technically still true because that scene was deleted. But
the idea of that was that there is no fate but what we make,
so technically our future is not set. But without that scene, T one
is closed time loop. But I guess with that scene in the addition of
Terminator two, it is not a close time loop. But yes, that's
why. I mean, it's not mentioned in the first one, but John
mentions that Kyle said that to his mom. Also, I'm really curious if
how Danny's mom died now, because like my first after watching them was like,
oh ship Terminator got to her just but that was yeah, yeah,
just but that was me like thinking, like and it's probably super unlikely.
But anyway, Also, why why are they called terminators? Like terminator seems
like a registered trademark of Skynet. They called terminators. I mean, Grace
only ever calls them repin she calls them Rev. Knice. But wait she
isn't. I don't think she says Terminator one, No, she calls him
Rev nine the whole time. Really is it are they called? Are they
actually called terminators? And the other one or is it just like the nickname
like ship fucking terminator? Well, yeah, they're called terminators. Okay,
wait, Grace doesn't say terminator. No, she calls it Rev. Nine
and old. Now, yeah, she always says Rep. Nine. I
think, Okay, you got question, just like I mean, I don't
know, I'm willing to be wrong. I yeah, but oh yeah.
So the refueling jet shows up. The terminator is driving it. He basically
slams his jet into the cargo plane. As the team tries to go get
into the humvey that's in the back so that they can parachute to the ground
in it. The terminator as his plane is basically falling apart and falling he
is. He jumps onto the cargo plane and Grace turns on the autopilot,
but the damage already done to their plane kind of causes it to go into
free fall. So there's this scene where they're all in the cargo hold trying
to get into the humvey and get it out of the plane, and they're
all kind of in like not quite zero gravity, but like light gravity because
they're all in free fall. Let's see, Oh, the terminator is making
his way into the cargo hold. Arnold is kind of fighting off the terminator
while everyone else is trying to get the Humvey out of the plane. I'm
speeding through this action scene because there's just a lot of it. Yeah,
there is. And I did not particularly like this action scene because there it's
just super noisy everywhere too. Yeah, it's a lot of cutting. It's
a lot of cutting, and there's just a lot going on visually, like
way too much. Yeah, because like I was trying to write notes for
this and then like I was like what am I? Like? The plane
falls in the water, they finally escape, blows up, But also do
you do you guys think that like if Robert Patrick's Trade one thousand like was
around, he'd be like this guy's pretty good, Like, oh, yeah,
I appreciate you. And then they like be bros like bro running into
the like diving into the plane. That was that was pretty good, and
he's like, ye, game, respect game is I appreciate I appreciate your
persistence. Let's see. So, yeah, Arl is fighting the terminator,
everybody else gets the Humpy out of the plane. The Humpy is now falling
with Grace hanging onto the outside. It's so fucking dark. Yeah really,
sorry, I have no more notes, so I'm just watching the movie now.
So Grace is hanging onto the outside of the humvey. She is releasing
the various parachutes that are on the car to slow their descent. Meanwhile,
Carl and the split up terminator are free falling and everyone is headed towards a
dam. The dam workers see all the plane wreckage headed their way and evacuate.
And this is the part that really pissed me off with the darkness,
because if you like, I accept the darkness to a point, because if
you really need if you think it looks realistic or whatever, fine, but
this is a work site on top of a dam. All these dudes are
wearing reflector vests and construction hats, and you're telling me they don't have any
fucking spotlights or floodlights or anything to light up the fucking dam. But it
is so fucking dark the entire time. Anyway, that bothered me so much.
Carl lands in the reservoir, still fighting with bone Storm, while the
humpy lands on the edge of the dam, and you could definitely tell dude
that skeleton is totally landing because it is missing the back of its skull and
the inside part of its skull, So like, yeah, that thing is
like I think that's how it is, but that thing is totally the light
anyway. That's my last note. By the way, let's see, so
the humvey hits lands on the edge of the dam and slowly starts going over
the side. It slips off and eventually is only held up by the parachute
straps and it's hanging over like the bad side of the dam. That's actually
the big drop. The liquid terminator eventually catches up with Jack Skellington and together
they rip Carl's left forearm off before more falling debris separates Carl in them.
He always has that arm yep. Grace sees that the Terminator has gotten out
of the water and has found them again, and so she decides that she
will do the only logical thing, which is to cut the parachute straps and
fall to their debts. I also really like this line from Sarah here when
she's she realizes what Grace is gonna do, and Grace's tells her to strap
in, and she's like, right, otherwise it could be dangerous. Yeah,
Well, I mean Grace got she went back into the cab because match
up the humbe landing under she would have been she would have been Grace under
tires. There you go. Oh, I've been saying that one so so
the load it's been edged for the last hour. When we talk about bullshit
delayed gratification, the humpy God. I was about to make a tantric sex
joke and I was like, oh wait, that's not Paul Simon, that
sting. But what uh real quick? I had a couple of notes from
before all this stuff happened a hopefully I mean obviously not but hopefully post apocalyptic
world there is still some nerd hackers that survived because it would be able to
build a virus because apparently Legion is all Internet type shit, Like eventually,
you know, you'd have to build a build some thing in order to like
take them down. But then again, all the nerds would have probably died.
Yeah, yeah, probably because they're nerds. Yes, okay, also
okay, so at some point Danny's like, no, this is where we
make off stand. Well, I don't know why she has an Arnold accent
whatever, but like why now, like you have a fucking terminator, you
know where to kill this other terminator. Take fucking Ernie, have him go
break into a military complex because he's a fucking terminator and goes to another EMP
boom take him out that way. Why does it have to be now?
I understand not wanting to run, but the plan he had got fucked up.
So go make another plan. I don't know, Take a week,
take a couple of days, go fucking do something. Get a hat,
wear a fucking hat and walk around with a hat. Get a mask or
something, do something to block your face so you're not in everything, and
just go like, think of a fucking better goddamn plan and just be like,
Oh, we're gonna make the killbox now, bro, we're gonna fucking
do this. Is that when she is that when they could get out of
the water, and she yeah, yeah, that that's in a few minutes,
but it is, there's so much happening. Well, there was also
a lot of other times. Yeah they made a better plan, Yeah,
definitely. They also still have the two EMP things like that there are bolt
holes in them, but like I feel like if you let Arnold crack one
of those open, he could probably reverse engineer that thing pretty quickly and fix
the other one. Also Grace like like mess with the cell phone. Yeah,
yeah, she did future shit like like why can't she fix the EMP.
I don't know that that seemed like it was like they gave up on
those extremely quickly, maybe because they were I don't know. Yeah, I
mean that was just like a wasted plot point. I guess. Yeah,
it just seems like it had that whole plot point movie exactly twenty minutes shorter
sort of thing, Yeah, exactly, and basically saved us that major bullshit
like yeah, nice fun. Also, as you mentioned how she made a
character, Danny is she's basically just a fucking mcguffin, right, like that
that's kind of thing in this Yeah, her role is to be the bait
in the film. Like, it's not like she teaches humanity to Grace.
And that's not that that doesn't happen. They they eventually are okay with each
other, but it's not really because of Danny. I guess they slightly bond
over Danny, but still that that doesn't that doesn't make a character, that
makes it a plot point. So the Humpy falls with Sarah and Danny inside
and gets swept to the bottom of the river while Grace tries and fails to
hold off the Terminator. When the Terminator eventually does find the Humvy in the
river, which seems very fucking hard in the in the middle of all that
rushing water in the dark. It I mean, I get that he's a
terminator, but that still seems very hard to get to the car. But
anyway, when he gets to the hum Vy, Sarah forms a plan to
tangle him up in a parachute while they swim past, which does work.
Danny and Sarah swim to the shore, where they also find Grace, and
they all head to the damn entrance. They find the entrance, but the
door is locked and Grace is too tapped out to break it open. Grace
tells Danny to run, but she won't, so instead, Grace tells them
they need to extract her power cell, even though it will kill her as
it's the only thing left that can kill the terminator because it will also generate
an EMP Okay, well, oh nothing that they're like this worked in Terminator
three, we can make it work again. Yeah. Before they have the
chance to slice her open, though, Carl makes it out of the water
and jumps down to where they are and his leg is fucked up. Oh
yeah it is. Although so he even has some medicine for grace. Although
as this movie has gone on, I have started to suspect that those are
just some kind of amphetamine, not so much medicine. Yeah, it worked
for me, and we also we also got a new a good line here
when he gets down to the bottom of the damn looks at Grace and goes,
you look terrible. So is this fucking like medicine for grace even needed
in this movie because like in reality, like it doesn't really cause any problems.
I guess a little bit of like shit with Sarah, like let's sit
back, but like it's such like a there's so many convenient plot points with
it with when they're in the fuck it let's call it the border prison camp
because really that's what it is. I'm sorry, teeny camp, Like oh
nice buddy search fellas, like oh, she's able to get it there,
or like Sarah just guesses. I did not see the point of that at
all. Sarah just guesses, like how much an ease And then fucking Carl
comes down with like her meds and everything, like oh she's back, Like
if you just kept her like like, if you just kept her like going
the whole time. Yeah, yeah, I feel like if she was fully
powered throughout the movie, they wouldn't have to run because she absolutely does the
Terminator well when she's at full power. If she didn't run out of steam,
there would be no reason for them to run, especially once she teams
up with other people, like once Sarah and and Carl are there. If
she could just run it full steam all the time without having to worry about
it, there's no reason they couldn't beat that thing. Pretty handful. Also,
Medicine for Grace sounds like an emo band very much waiting to say it.
Okay, oh my god, So yeah, that's man. Take that
back to two thousand three and make some money. That's true. They were
all terrible. We're medicine and Grace. This is stepped in my heart.
Okay. So, so Carl breaks the door open and they enter the dam
just as the terminator locates them. They decide that they're gonna make their stand
in the dam. Grace grabs a chain and Karl grabs a big heavy thing.
The terminator comes in and attacks. So, you guys mentioned earlier,
he kind of makes a little speech here he like tries to reason with a
couple of them. I didn't mention it because it's really fucking stupid. Oh
yeah, the girl, Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's give
me the girl, and then he asks he tries to reason with Arnold.
He's like, you and I are alike, we should be on the same
side. And then he turns to Sarah and is like, why do you
even care about her? And it just it's all very pointless. Yeah,
just go fucking kill her. Bro Just run directly towards her. Fucking uh
a knife, hand her right in the face. Call it a day.
Can venom staff them as you're running past. It's very just fucking do it.
Go home, drink a beer. I don't know what robots do.
Stick at battery of your ass. I don't fucking I don't know. I
don't care. So we find out after a few years they drink Corona jet
it. Maybe he's like, how to say character or storyrec too, Like
he's wants to be past fist now. He's like, I was just like
a fighting monk, really exactly. It's like, I don't want to do
this, but I have to. Really is the hero in this holy uh
so He eventually attacks, but between Sarah, Grace and Carl, they managed
to pin him down and eventually throw him into a turbine, which then explodes.
So the fights you here is decent. It's okay. It's a Carl
like Grace has that chain thing that she's whipping around like, you know,
doing some sweet martial arts stuff with it. That's fine. Uh, Carl's
just hitting him with a club. Except when Carl just like throws him,
like you have him in your hand, punch him, fucking punch him.
Why throw him away where he's closer? This time he punched him. His
handskin got stripped off. Okay, stomp on his fucking head, do something.
Don't just fucking throw him around. I oh, you're a fucking killbot.
Like, don't just throw people around. That doesn't kill people. I
mean it can, but just fucking kill him really quick, but not terminators.
Yeah, it just like this whole so fucking everybody throws everybody around in
a battle. I don't know the whole thing with because I'm what sorry again
watching right now the whole thing when Grace is cutting the two one thousand part
of it, part is kind of cool. I think that part looks like
when she's cutting him up with the chain. Yeah, that part looks she's
having trouble with it because she got fucking stabbed. Yeah, but anyway,
eventually they throw them into the turbine. It's also fucking pointless because it just
pulls itself together again too. Yeah, but yeah, into the turbine.
I don't know what they're trying to do. They go into the turbine,
which then eventually explodes. Danny finds Grace in the debris, but she's in
terrible shape and worse, Sarah finds that the terminator is not dead yet.
Grace tells Danny to take her power cell as the melting terminator knocks out Sarah
and limps over toward them. Danny doesn't want to do it, but eventually
works out the strength to get all up in there. She takes the power
source and fights off the terminator with like the shotgun and hits him a few
times with the gun, but she can't quite make the killing blow and the
power cell is knocked out of her hand. Eventually, Sarah wakes up to
see Danny Danny struggling, and she screams at Carl to wake up and help,
which he eventually does Danny get down. Yeah, but Wayne for that
this entire fucking that's what happens when I don't have anything written down. Just
go back to old ship. So he eventually does wake up, but only
when Sarah says his name and he starts beating on poor George. George.
It's George and Lenny. At this point, it's just George. Oh Lenny,
you mean, well, sorry, it's just Lenny. Sorry, yeah,
it is just Lenny. At this point, I just want to go
home and until I turn it into it Lenny. Like, uh, at
a bar the other night and there was a couple of dogs and like this
one little corky that was very excited. I just like got down there on
the ground just like just like attacking it, like with pets. After it's
like, oh my god, that dog. I just want to like grab
it and like fucking squeeze it. I'm like, oh shit, I turned
into fucking Lenny, didn't I. I just turned into fucking Elmira And that
is one step short of Lenny. I just want to break its little So
anyway, Carl wakes up. Uh, he starts fighting the terminator again.
This gives Danny the opportunity, and she stabs the power cell into the terminator's
eye. Okay, real quick, so the two one thousand part of this
is gone now right. It seems like it seems like it's all fucked up
and melted away. Yeah, okay, okay. Carl then drags himself and
the terminator down into a pit and holds it there until the power cell eventually
explodes as Danny and Sarah watch from above. Before he dies, Carl looks
at Sarah and says, for John, and then I sabed like a little
girl. You know what's sad is this one? I think that for John
thing didn't work as well as the one from Genesis, which, yeah,
I was joking that actually didn't hit me that hard, like like it was,
it was fine, But it's like he like it's at this point you
can always expect him to say something at the end exactly. And then the
Genesis one didn't work as well as the which I'm gonna cred after him from
the one from Terminator two. Yeah, definitely, But like I mean,
I don't think anything's ever gonna match up the Terminator two. But but could
that be because Genesis is a better written movie No, it was just that
end, Like they shouldn't have tried to. They shouldn't have tried to like
have him say something at the end. I don't know, like just like
they he wasn't really connected to like he like with as far as Genesis he
was, he was actually connected the Sarah character in that, so like when
he's like you see like Ki Sarah, but he's like that was actually like
fucking sad because it's like his daughter. But like they well, I mean
he says it earlier. Is like with Matteo, like I realized what I
had taken from you. They did set it up. Yeah, yeah,
they set it up because and I probably forgot to mention this. In the
text messages that Sarah gets that let her know when the terminators are going to
show up, they always end with for John. Yeah, and it's it's
something that he's been saying to her for years to try and give her purpose
and help her sort of get over and grieve for John. Because like Joe
just said, yeah, they actually say forge on because it's after he killed
the T one thousand Interminator two. He's really about like metal forges. So
that's what actually, well that makes it that kind of connects like if you
want to kill like, if you want to kill more terminators, like you
gotta you know, you gotta go to different forge running that can make the
forge better too. But you know, I don't know, but yeah,
it's like the Forgeohn. It's fine. They set it up and they pay
it off and it's it makes a decent amount of sense, but it just
it doesn't hit us hard. I don't know what it would have been with
a spit on him, Fuck you you killed my kid. She just like
throws a bag of pisto because she's a crazy key and pickle jars like as
normal people like, no, be in a bag, all right, that's
what the other potato chip bags are for. She's not even a zip.
It's just like it's twisted up like a ship clip on it. We made
to let her shoot him at the Yeah, at his house, she's like
house. She's like, all right, I'm gonna get this motherfucker. Eventually
she's in the bathroom about she's like, because she's crazy, she's like pisss
in the bag and then you know, she's like I'm gonna give them eventually.
But then she felt bad and she she just throws the bag of pistol.
Why a bag? So later Danny and Sarah are creeping on young Grace
in the present before driving off together to commit many many acts of domestic terrorists.
And then we get the credits and we get was this before the recording?
I don't remember, but at this point we get a very soulful,
flamenco rendition of the Terminator theme. Now we're going to do something extremely fun.
We're going to play a wonderful game called who is My Daddy? And
what does she do? Yeah? Okay, and that's pretty much the movie.
So at this point we move on to America's favorite segment, Joe Namath
Joe take it Away? All right? So I'm not gonna lie. They
were a fuck load of names, and uh a lot of them had like
accents on them, or Mexican umlats as we like to call them. So
I didn't get into too many. But uh, we got a first assistant
sound editor whose name is Skip Longfellow. That's just a weird name. There's
a second car rigging grip name Stephen Curry, but it's with the pH,
so it's Stephan Stephen Curry, Steph Curry yeah, but with an ie so
different Curry spelling. There's a set director or decorator named Nimrod. Had you
yes, his name is literally Nimrod. There was a fuck load of Laslow's
and huh like double digit Laslow's. Whoa, that's weird. Yeah, there
was. I don't know that I've ever seen a Laslo. Yeah, it's
called what are you doing? So this one I think was a misprint,
but that's how they put it. Some of these stunts. It was jose
Joan Ramos Ramos, but like the way they set it up would just it
looked like one name. So I had to, like, you know,
go back and like look at him, like, am I just fucking stupid?
And look that's wrong? But no, I literally said Jose Joan Ramos
Ramos, so whatever. And uh. Lastly, so there's a Simpsons episode
where March starts working at the power plant and Homer showing the way She's like
if you and Homer's like, if you do anything wrong, just blame it
on the foreign guy T Boar. Later on, you know, Smithers is
like, oh, we're got to use a credit card because that idiot T
Boar lost the key. But I counted at least six te boars, and
I didn't know that. I didn't know that was a real name. I've
never first name. Yes, I've literally never seen a T Boar in my
life. But there was at least six t boars that worked on this movie.
How do you spell that? Is this tib R just T boar?
Yeah? Oh? Yeah, wow, a lot of a lot of T
boars. Okay, oh and uh last, he worked on some other stuff
before. But there's a playback technologist named Steve Irwin, so wow, all
right, he came back from the dead for him just to be what a
technologist, a playback technologist, very specific, he's keeping it low key.
Yeah, okay, well, thanks for thanks for listening. We'll be back.
Wait, no, we need an outro for this episode. That's what
I was saying, that's what I'm doing. Is this not an outro?
Alright? I guess we'll be back. Yeah, you got it. Well,
sorry, bag, you have the pot stuff.