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Hey, Vengeance. It's Friday.
That's right, the podcast is back for

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revenge We've covered at the end of
At the end of like the theme tune

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playing, someone has to shout revengeance
to differentiate it. Yes, we we

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should just have someone just going hold
on, let me okay, let's turn

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that button on, let's do this. Okay, wait, revengeance, vengeance.

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Every single time we just do like
a little bit of audio poison right

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off the top that for people to
just really hate and get into the opinions,

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which people will love. You know, people are saying, I'm a

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very positive and on the internet,
and someone has to be. But I'm

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not about being toxic positivity. I'm
about being toxic and positivity. So that's

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both sides of the coin here.
So let's start with hate and then we'll

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get to the positive stuff later.
You know, it's like a toxic positivity

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is a thing for sure. You're
like one of those Amazonian tree frogs that

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like are so bright and colorful because
of their toxicity. It's nice, exactly.

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I shine bright like a dime.
I heard that song lyric by Rihanna,

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and I'm like, that's me.
It's me, It's me. It's

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me Jan Ochoa, host of BombCast. Now it just sounds like I'm like

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ordering something over a drive through.
It does sound like that. It's fun

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though. I like it. I
like it all right? One, Oh

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I can, I can? Yeah, just do Revengeless of an echo.

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I mean it's pretty good. That's
not that's not nothing. That's not nothing.

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That's not nothing joining me as always
is not Jeff Grubs, So he's

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not joining me today. It's like
the mus the vocal muscle memory kicked in

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of doing a bomb cast. But
you know who is always here, the

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rock the drop shadow that makes us
all look good, Jeff Beckler. What

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I was not expecting my name to
follow that build up. That is very

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charitable of you, Jam, It's
true, it's true. To me.

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That felt like one of the meaner
things I've heard Jan say. Really,

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drop shadow makes everything look better?
Yeah, no, No, it's because

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it's got your back. It's always
there, always copy that style. Yeah

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yeah, Beckler is always wearing he's
your boss. Wait a minute, Wait

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a minute, wait a minute,
was this bad? Are you telling me

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understanding what's a compliment and what's not? I'm having We have him on the

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ones and two slamming on that soundboard
like he's Daniel's son and karate Kid won

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two and then Cobra Kai two more
who's saying exactly and that's what we're trying

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to do and making her debut on
BombCast Bailey Myers, Hello, Hello,

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Hello. Would you like so if
I were to call you the drop shadow

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of this crew, you'd be offended? Yeah, and you'd be wrong.

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Also, I gotta say drop shot. It's pretty cool. Wow. See

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now that felt I know, an
insult. That felt certainly like an insult.

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The first one flew under my radar. This one was like a shot

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in the heart. Drop shadow is
pretty cool though. If I was like,

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if that's a cool, like what
a good name for it is?

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Maybe like a wrestling finishing movie.
He's gonna do the drop shadow stand back?

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Yeah? You know, yeah,
I've been playing a lot of Sorry,

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I was just gonna say the universe
where that's real? Then sure,

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yeah that would be a compliment.
Okay, I'm learning, I'm growing,

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I'm showing growth. I've been playing
Call duty as Nicki Minaj a lot.

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I just want to say good and
some of these sound effects are are unfucking

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believable. I They're the best,
and I'm introducing them to a whole new

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brand of people, and it's really
cool. And I never thought I would

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really enjoy playing as Nicki Minaj so
much. But I just want to put

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this out there. I do think
Activision is sleeping on a collaboration that would

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go over really well. And buy
that team because they face a hockey team.

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No one cares about you. No, the collaboration they should be doing.

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I will pivot now is all the
HBO properties. Can you are you

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telling me if Baby Billy was a
skin from Righteous Gemstones, Uncle, Baby

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Billy, are you kidding me?
I would I always play Call of Duty

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if I could play as Tony Soprano? Right, That's what I'm saying.

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Imagine Silvio or Paulie Walnuts as fucking
in Call of Duty. If we're putting,

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if we're putting fucking Nicki Minaj in
in Call of Duty, we need

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to do you not think that that
Nicki Minaj carries the same cultural weight as

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Tony Soprano. I I think their
neck and neck okay, all right?

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Who yeah, Like I'm not saying
one's better than the other, but I

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do think if people could play as
Silvio in Call of Duty, you would

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attract an entirely brand new demo of
player. That's all I'm saying. It's

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great. Call of Duty is in
its Fortnite era. That's awesome. Good

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for them. He a revamp,
Well, Larry David's a good one,

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good call. I mean, there's
the whole HBO thing. That's it.

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It's so easy, it's right there. And Uncle Baby Billy would be amazing,

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amazing. Mhm. What else is
a hot Max property now, especially

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with like the Discovery stuff you could
throw in like a bear grillis perhaps ny

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Frandresher from The Nanny Done, Cyborg
from the the DC movie the black and

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white version, and Cyborg from Teen
Titans go. Yeah, I can't even

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remember what that fucking movie, Justice
League. Justice League. I'm a DC

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fan, and that is the most
aggressively in my time has been wasted in

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my lifetime. But yeah, put
all of them in black and white only,

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no color aloud. God, I
can't believe I sat through that multiple

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time is times. Sorry, I
was, I just got very lost looking

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for a very selfish thing to look
for. I'm not in that episode anyway.

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Uh uh welcome to BombCast Revengeance.
You want to you want what else

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is popping off before we talk about
games. I don't want Samantha Jones in

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Call of Duty. Let's fucking go. That would be sick. Oh yeah,

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interesting. I could do anything.
I could play Call of Duty.

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I played Alan Wake last night.
Let's go, let's do this. I'm

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in my new trying new games era. We haven't talked about games at Bailey.

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You're not allowed to talk about duty. I'm not looking at HVO characters.

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I mean, yes, all the
ladies from Sex in the City.

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I do think Kendall Roy. Yeah, that's interesting, although the disgusting brothers

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right, you want to be fucking
no, I would want Kendall who tam

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nailed it, because he's like that
kind of dude bro. Yeah, he'd

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be like loading back. Yeah,
imagine and his headphones running around just mumbling

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all to the o g under his
breath, like exactly doing whatever it is

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you do Call of Duty. I
don't know. I don't have him on

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a team with like string of Bell
and Terry and Lanista and let's let's go

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there. That is the collaboration of
the decade. If we can like if

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we cannot get that, oh my
lord, please Brian Cox in the booth

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doing fucking Logan Roy voiceovers telling you
know, kill confirmed, what the fuck

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are we waiting for? You know? They they should add my former bosses

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because I see that that show is
now on uh Max, the one to

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watch for HBO. They yeah,
yeah, that that's true, perfect sense.

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Anyway, y'all want to talk about
video games? Forgot him? I

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said no. Well then it was
like no, we we'd go to break

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and we we'd go back up for
the next segment. You would just be

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mysteriously gone. Yeah. I Uh. In the ramp up for for Game

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of the Year, I decided,
you know what, you know what I'm

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gonna I'm gonna conquer this hill.
I'm gonna beat several games. I'm gonna

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play several games, and then I'm
gonna beat them. And then I realized

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I don't fucking have time to actually
beat a game. So you know,

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that's why I invited Bailey on to
neg me and motivate me to finish the

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actual game. But a couple of
games I have been playing, I believe.

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Jeff Grub chatted about this a couple
of weeks ago jus soon. It

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is a rock climbing or a blaying
game, a climbing ring, a boulder

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ring, please please, a bold
take, a bolder like a boulder like,

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A bold take on the genre.
Uh jue on. It's a it's

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a neat little game. It's it's
a very short one as well. So

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I think I did beat I'm close
to beating this where you were just climbing

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about three hours in Nice. It's
all about climbing. You climb up a

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mountain and then there's like uncharted style, little handholds, little footholds to hold

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on to, and that kind of
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there are other things to climb onto. The neat thing is that you have

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these three petons or whatever, like
the little climbing hook things, and you

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set those to wherever you want on
the mountain as you're climbing, and those

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kind of act as your way points
and your save points. And when you

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go from surface to surface, you
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onto the surface. And it's neat
because I thought at first you were only

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locked into climbing up and down with
the handholds and footholds but then it takes

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advantage of laying down your piton strategically
where you have to do like the rope

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swing thing and like run back and
forth on the mountain side, or you

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just got to lower yourself like blaying
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On top of that there you gotta
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is neat because this there's no enemies
in this game. There's absolutely gravity.

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Just gravity, just gravity, exactly, and your biggest enemy yourself. I

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love the little blue guy I'm seeing
in the photos of that. Oh yeah,

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little little blue sammy boy. Yeah, a little goofy boy. You

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should not take a cute little guy
rock climbing. That's just my opinion personally.

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Well, if someone is like as
gelatinous as like the little blue boy

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is and Juan, I'm going to
assume that they cannot break any bones.

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If they don't have any bones,
Okay, you don't have to break bones

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to die. Jan have your dropped
jello? Oh okay, now now I

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feel bad. Now I feel bad. Yellow like Jan orange yellow exclusively,

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it's the best flavor. What does
jello rarely have flavor? Yes, it's

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got sugar in it and flavored sugar. What do you say. I've had

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jello and each time I'm like,
this just tastes like it's it's the garbage

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of its garbage is nothing foods like
you know, it's it's it's food puss.

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Oh that's not jell is gross,
it's total garbage, but vehicles.

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Jello is yellow is another American sye
op where they've convinced the world that it's

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good, but no one is good. Hello, we have trash for you,

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and everyone's like, I guess this
is good. Sometimes you just want

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to slurp down something wiggly. Dam
come on, there's many things. That's

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what spaghetti is for. But I'm
I've been really digging Juice On. It's

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on game Pass, so if you
have game Pass, it's kind of a

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no brainer to check out. It's
a nice palette cleanser because I feel like

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everything else I'm playing is just so
either mechanics heavy or story heavy. I'm

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right on the precipice of finishing Alan
Wake two, and I just keep putting

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it off because I don't want it
to end. But Juice On has been

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a nice excursion. I don't the
problem with the lead up period to Game

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of the Year is that you are
like storming and like bum rushing your way

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through so many games that some of
them aren't sticking at all, or you're

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just kind of tossing them completely.
But jus on sticking in a different way.

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And I think maybe it's because it
gives me that feeling of like,

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oh, I wish I was outside. I wish I could actually go do

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this and be outside. But my
wish there was some way for me to

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be outside. I wonder if it
is in this world the most I could

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one is to be outside bond Fortunately, but my hands are stupid and I

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can't grip onto things for too long. It's hard. Like rock climbers are

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just a different breed of human,
you know, Yeah, yeah, I

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I, for the life of me, cannot do it. I try.

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When I was into bouldering for the
hot second I was into it, maybe

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did like a v one, and
then I got to the top, I'm

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like, fuck, do you I
can't do this anymore? And then I

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just rolled off another game that I've
been playing, and I threw in another

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three hours into this and I still
have no fucking clue what this game is

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about. I don't understand this.
I've also been playing a game, a

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little game called Little Goody two Shoes. What a Square INNX game. This

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is a Square NX game. Yes, what So it's that way a top

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down one, isn't it. It's
a weird top down one. I think

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it is a survival one. But
the main thing that I've been doing in

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this game as a lease is your
main protagonist. Here cut the arts.

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Cool. The art is very good. It's absolutely amazing. It nails like

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that Arcade CRT glow on my monitor
really well. And I really like the

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look of everything. It looks like
a Arcadie story book. Yeah, it

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looks like a yu Gio, like
a chiv U yi oh. And I

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just don't understand what I'm supposed to
be doing because the the thing that this

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game keeps pushing me to do is
like, yo, you got to go

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on dates with all these other ladies, and I'm like, okay, cool,

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And then it'll do the thing where
there are different phases throughout the day.

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So there's morning, early afternoon,
afternoon, evening, et cetera.

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And as you progress through each portion
of the day, it consumes a bread

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on your bread meter, and if
you run out of bread. You unfingered

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bread. Okay, that's just what
dating women is like. M you know

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what, You're right, Yeah,
yeah, that's that's been my experience.

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And I don't remember the game explaining
that to you, that you had to

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like stay full the whole time as
you're playing the game. So the first

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segment where I think something major is
about to happen happened, and then I

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woke up, and then I died
because I didn't have enough bread. I

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was too hungry. I guess that's
what being a woman is like. Amen,

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sister, Amen. But it's it
has horror elements to it, and

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I think it's done really well when
like they kick off and everything. It's

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just the actual flow of the game
doesn't feel good because the other thing to

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progress through the day besides dating ladies
is just helping out miscellaneous tasks throughout the

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town. So this will include something
like, hey, go clean this up,

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Go get a bunch of apples from
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down for that. Another task is
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then for some of these side activities, it will want you into a mini

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game in the style of an old
like arcade game like Tapper or something.

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But they go too But the problem
is they go too far. They go

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too far with it because it feels
like garbage is a music good? The

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music is good. All the wrappings
around this game are great, right,

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like the visual representation, how everything
is. The music's good. It is

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just the actual playing of the game
that is as bad. I think it

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is supposed to be adjacent to like
what's that other top down game? It

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looks like a Tim Burton joint?
Yes, yeah, it's like that,

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but with dating. I'm on the
I'm looking at the developer, Astro Shift,

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and they say they're an independent game
development team which focused on the RPG

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genre. A main goal is to
send the player on a rich sensorial experience

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with strong visual and musical elements,
as well as mysterious and innovative storytelling.

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Censorial does it do any of that? Ah yeah yeah yeah, I mean

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like the little bits of like the
story are really neat. It rolls like

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a like an anime intro at the
top of the game, and then it

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does the thing where it says the
name of the game afterwards like a show

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would, so it has like its
whole like no, no, no,

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no, no, no, no, no, little goody two shoes,

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and then it's like, oh man, that's great. I wish I like

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this more mains. I love games. I do that though. Neon White

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does that. Tokyo Xanadu does that. Just like any any game that gives

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me a little bit of a theme
song. Every so often, I'm into

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it. Need that break, It's
nice, remind me what I'm playing.

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The main ride is someone called Evil
Hairbrush, which is great. That's neat,

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that's neat. Okay, right,
all right? Has anyone been playing

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anything else they'd like to talk about? I I've honestly have been playing a

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lot of Call Duty lately, as
you can tell because how good I was

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on our stream. And you know
that game. It's fun watching normies play

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it like you guys, because you're
right, especially Grub, who's super vocal

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about how insane that game is.
That game is absolutely bananas. Like if

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you are not exposed to that,
it is. It is just like it's

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like, has it has this?
Does does this still have the most dogshit?

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Ui? Yes, I'm not even
paying attention every time I load that

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game up, and it's just like, no, I'm done. Yeah,

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it's somehow like it somehow never gets
with year every year passing it somehow gets

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more convoluted, uh like, and
and I'll only reach a point where I

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can like reliably get to like my
load out edit screen, like reliably,

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and then I forget how to do
mostly everything else. And somehow, some

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way they figure out a new strategy
of just really handcuffing you in a really

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frustrating way. That aside, uh
and it is it is a ridiculous game,

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But this one, I don't know. There's what the hell's the mode

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control where it's like a very good
game, but inside of Modern Warfare three

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it's like this this isn't the first
time they did it. It's basically like

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hard point but taking turns uh and
you have a finite amount of lives,

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right, so there's two points that
you want to hold down and you run

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offense and defense. And I find
like there's there's that's been a really satisfying

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thing to do with my stupid fucking
idiot friends, and that's been great,

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Like We've been having a lot of
fun doing that together. And I'm finding

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that, uh, the the sort
of teamwork and the play sort of like

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playmaking strategy that we had no semblance
of in last year's Call of Duty.

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We're finding it there this year in
that mode, and I'm really enjoying it.

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And you know what, Like I
guess people are really down on the

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fact that most of these, if
not, I think all of the maps

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are remakes, right, all the
maps are remix I believe from other Yeah,

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basically they're good. Those maps are
good. And you know what,

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if you're like me, you kind
of forget what they like really look like

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and a good you know, fresh
coat of pain on this bad boys enough

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for you to be like reinterested in
all that stuff. It's not bad.

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You know. Those maps are good
because they're good. You know, like

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you never want to be talking about
a game and go, it's not bad

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looking really a high pitch because that
says a lot. Yeah, it does.

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It says a lot. Where Like
I can't recommend people paying for it,

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you know, I feel like I
feel like pretty often we forget that,

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like people have to pay for this
stuff, and I can't. I

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can't endorse paying for that game,
you know, So are you saying you

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should steal it? If you could
steal it, go for it? You

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know, I don't know how to
do that. I've never done a crime,

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so never ever done. I don't
even know how to do a crime

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more completely innocent. Who's saying yep, that's what people say about you.

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I yep, yep, it's true. Barely any interest in checking out Call

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of Duty or any interest in the
past. I'm not really a call of

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duty person, just because I'm not
big on like games of that genre typically.

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But I mean again, I just
started playing allen Wick too, and

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I'm not big on horror games,
so anything's possible. And I just started

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playing that fruit drop game and I
never dropped fruit. So yes, the

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world's my oyster here? Yes,
okay, this is everyone's been wondering what

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game am I going to fucking monologue
for this year? It might be the

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stupid fucking fruit game. Anyway,
this new is this gonna be your new

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Tetris ninety nine? It might be. It only cost me three dollars and

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I'm really I haven't played it on
stream yet, but I'm really excited about

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it. I got asked Backlar one
more question and then we'll circle back to

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the fruit back Lark. When did
war Zone or Call of Duty get so

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shit? I have a I have
a secret. Well, when did it

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get so bloated and cramped with the
UI, because honestly, like we could

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say it's about the fortnitification of it, of it trying to match Fortnite,

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et cetera. But it looks too
busy that me watching it yesterday, watching

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y'all play, I am amazed that
you were even able to navigate and join

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a party together. Warzone sucks.
Shit, I fucking hate it. It's

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the most popular mode for Call of
Duty and it's straight dookie. It's it's

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yeah, it's like people love it. To be fair, people love it

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and they get really into every time. I feel like I'm losing my mind.

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I'm just like, this is so
annoying in every conceivable way. Yeah,

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it's pure uncut doodoo kaka for sure. I was thinking about this the

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other day. Actually, Like Call
of Duty used to have an identity,

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right, it was something that you
could almost write down. You would say,

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Call of Duty is a video game
where you get a four hours,

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solid, over the top campaign that
has memorable moments, and then you have

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multiplayer. You don't get that anymore, you like, the latest campaign is

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just a baffling hodgepodge of like what
it's like they took the war zone and

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like tried to make it a story
and it was and it's not good.

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And then the multiplayer is just a
complete clusterfuck for anyone who hasn't been playing

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it since it first became the clusterfuck. So it's just like, what is

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the identity of Call of Duty in
this day and age? And I don't

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think I have a good answer for
it other than it just exists and if

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you like it, lucky. If
you don't, you don't. Well,

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I think I think the multiplayer has
an identity still. I agree the campaign.

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I mean I haven't played through a
Call Duty to campaign all the way

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through and close to a decade,
I bet I agree. But I do

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think that multiplayer still carries a bit
of a personality to it, and I

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think, and I do think,
at the end of the day, like

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it still works real well, I
have a problem with you know, people

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love to complain about like you know, spawn points and them changing and being

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super frustrating, and you know,
it's obviously a thing they they've kind of

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struggled with for a really long time, and you know that that would probably

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indicate that like, oh, that's
probably real hard and it's almost impossible to

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get right. But I I think
pound for pound a technical analysis of how

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that game plays multiplayer wise, it's
pretty fucking good. For what it's worth.

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It did seem like there was a
shift in uh attitude and vibe as

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soon as you all yesterday switched from
playing Won. It's more fun. It's

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too fun. Modern warfare multiplayer proper, yes, yeah, but it's a

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better mode. I don't know what
these war Zone freaks are, like drinking.

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War Zone is just for like the
sweatiest of gamers, like totally,

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that's where they have friends. Totally
they are. They have a backwards hat

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on while they were playing that game. My god, can you imagine being

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a backwards hat person indoors? Yeah, that's why we're beanies. There's no

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whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa, there's nothing like that. I'm a

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backwards person indoors kind of you are, but like you're not. Like it's

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mainly because like my hair is out
of control. I'm just like I can't.

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It must be nice, said my
fault. You're bold, What the

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fuck? No, it's not.
But it's also you know, maybe something

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you don't dangle in front of my
face all the time, Like I get

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it. You're like your hair actually, like my my hair has grown so

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fast since I shaved it in September, like like Stamp shaved my hair.

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Actually, you need another cut.
I can hook you up. I was

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asked Barbera Jan of like, hey, what do I do? And then

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he was like, what if we
shave it? Are good? I'm like

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no, I can't. No one
wants to anymore. You can barbierge and

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quit the game. I thought so
too, But then Barbara Jan is still

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barbaring on the side. You know
someone's going how retirement for that? Yeah?

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Yeah? How is he gonna fund
his his his own addictions which are

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similar, if not almost the same
as mine. Does he have a Corgian

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I have a corgy? Yes?
Does he have a crippling Pokemon card addiction?

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Yes? Do I? Yes?
But that is he Filipino? I'm

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Filipino? Yes? Is his name
Jan? I'm jed. Yes? Is

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that where the similarities stopped? No? They continue to keep you going.

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You know I want you know,
I want I want Jen. I want

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to do a cover of the Beach
Boys. Barbara and but do it with

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Barbara Jan He has a deeper voice
than I do. So like, I'll

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just go hard higher Huku lower,
Barbier Quartet. Come Onburden, there you

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go. Oh, I'm gonna clip
this. I'm gonna send it over to

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him. He's gonna get a real
kick out of this. Bailey. Yes,

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we were talking loosely about the fruit
game. Sweaka. I'm assuming we're

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talking about speak a game. Yeah, sweak a game. Yes. When

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it comes to a puzzle game like
this or like Tetris, does the vibe

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of it not a puzzle game?
Okay? But does the vibe of it

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change at all when you compare something
like Tetris to Tetris ninety nine where there

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is like a multiplayer component, Yeah, Tetris that doesn't have a multiplayer component

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for me is much more zen.
I'll just like zone out, get really

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stoned, make my own Tetris effect
happen. I don't need to turn on

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a game for it. I can
do it myself both ninety nine. That

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is that exists to say, sheime
my bloodlust. I do not play Call

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of Duty. I must murder people
in Tetris, and I do regularly,

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and it feels great. Uh.
I think we we slipped in time with

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you, Bailey for a second,
but I think we caught up now,

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like very like weirdly emphasized when you
went blood lost and then a cut Yeah

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no, uh yeah no, Tetras
nine is good for doing murders and that's

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not a crime because you've never committed
a crime. I've never committed a crime

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in my life. I got it. It's a couple of years removed now

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since you deserve it. That that's
what we say about you, Like we

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go through all of our coworkers in
a bullet point list and like, what's

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what's the new thing we're going to
add to them? They're their new aka,

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uh the dexter of Tetris. Yeah, that's pretty that's actually pretty good.

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We should put that on shirt Bailey. It's a couple of years removed

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since when Tetris ninety nine originally released. But how does one get good?

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It is? It is? Genuinely, I feel like I'm not good at

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giving advice about Tetris because it's kind
of like asking, like a six year

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old who can miraculously play Mozart perfectly, how to get good at the piano?

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Like I don't know. It just
comes out of my bones. Are

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you equating yourself to like an eight
year old? Some six year old?

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Six year old? Do I look
eight to you? Please? With this

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skin tetris? I think you have
to remember it is it is not a

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puzzle game. It is an action
game, and you just have to be

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fast and able to kill people and
afraid of nothing. Okay, all right,

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well I'm afraid of about organizing blocks. Also focus on organizing the blocks.

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Keep your box tidy and you'll do
great. Hmm, that's what she

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said. Uh sweaka, though,
how are you? How are you enjoying

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SWEEKA? I'm liking it. I
want to be better at it. I'm

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just obsessed with dropping these fruit.
I did just make the green melon happen.

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I did start playing a game all
you guys were talking about Call of

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Duty because I just don't care about
that game at all. That's okay,

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that's all right? Response probably,
Yeah, it's okay. I'm constantly multitasking.

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What you what you're playing on?
I'm just playing the free browser version,

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but the one that I'm going to
play on stream later today is on

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twitch yep. What that clicking is? Yeah, you're clicking away. You

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can hear that. Okay, sure, no, it's fine, click away,

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click away. She doesn't even have
us like on the Discord call in

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front of her. It's just like
the watermelons, and like, you know,

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it looks like I'm looking at you, I'm looking at the fruit.

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00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:44.279
Okay, okay, I've never played
this game. Should I play this game?

405
00:31:44.480 --> 00:31:48.960
I feel fun? Game of the
year. I feel like my it's

406
00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:52.400
in the back half of the list
right now. What is it called again?

407
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:56.680
Sweek a s U I k A, yeah, the cool looking word.

408
00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:02.519
Just trying to make the watermelon up
here, And that's what I'm constantly

409
00:32:02.599 --> 00:32:07.200
trying to do. What a week
for watermelons in gaming? Right? First

410
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:10.640
you have Hans and now Sweeka,
Like, that's pretty sick for watermelons in

411
00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:17.720
general, the worst possible fruit that
earth, What the fuck? What are

412
00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:22.960
you talking? Melons are incredible?
You just like that because the non whites

413
00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:28.359
like it. I'm sorry what you
heard me, dude? That is such.

414
00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:31.480
That is such a needless fucking thing
to say to me about watermelons.

415
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:38.440
Man, I hate watermelons for reasons
well well beyond that, my friend,

416
00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:45.160
I'm sure they are I bet you
hate mangoes to No, I love mango.

417
00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:52.799
Okay, now I'm in this a
pointless fucking fruit. What a stupid

418
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:58.319
fruit has all this bullshit inside?
What does it have inside that is upsetting

419
00:32:58.319 --> 00:33:02.000
to you? All the seeds,
dude, all the seeds come another fruit

420
00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:07.440
of seeds in it, veins.
What it's got like watermelon, like white

421
00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:09.440
little veins running through and you're like, oh cool, this string just came

422
00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:15.400
out of my mouth. All we
always hate the qualities we see of ourselves

423
00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:20.640
and others, don't. I have
never eaten a watermelon that has strings coming

424
00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:24.519
out. You are eating something that
you've been told is a warmlon. It

425
00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:29.680
is not a watermelon. This man's
eating fucking oranges or some ship raw.

426
00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:31.680
And it's like this warmelon sucks.
Okay, I'm gonna walk back the vein

427
00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:37.640
thing and walk that back a little
bit, I'm gonna say. And I

428
00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:39.839
think it's insane that there's like those
little, weird little white seeds in it,

429
00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:43.839
like the soft ones and then the
hard black seeds in it. And

430
00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:50.119
don't tell me like, oh they
figured out black seeds. Yes, there's

431
00:33:50.119 --> 00:33:55.119
white watermelon there are true, that's
net to see what eating that's I just

432
00:33:55.160 --> 00:33:59.599
see little black seeds and I just
like, I don't care about I just

433
00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:07.599
pick on my them will take care
of it. Bones you eat the watermelon

434
00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:09.280
bones is what it sounds like.
Well, I wish we could name these

435
00:34:09.320 --> 00:34:15.039
episodes because watermelon bones is an all
timer. Who's just we can't. You

436
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:19.280
can eat whatever you want that your
little belly will take, but I'm not

437
00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:22.599
gonna do that. I don't want
to have to work around my fruit being

438
00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:24.800
delicious. Here's here's a pro fruit
tip. Here's a pro fruit tip.

439
00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:29.800
And I love all fruits except boy
I'll eat I like watermelon flavor. But

440
00:34:29.840 --> 00:34:32.519
it's too much work. It's too
much work. But that watermelon pro fruit.

441
00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:36.800
Fruit fruit tip. If you don't
like the fruit you're eating or whatever,

442
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:38.599
you have a hard time eating fruit, throw some ta heen on that

443
00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:43.119
bad boy. We'll feel in something
better. It's it's Trey Magnefik. You

444
00:34:43.119 --> 00:34:45.000
go to Disneyland, you go get
yourself a dull whip, ask for to

445
00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:51.119
heen, and then they'll slide you
a couple of packets that I like,

446
00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:59.920
pear like honey dew, like cantalope
like honeydew, and cantelope all fruits peercied

447
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:04.679
in them. Yeah, but they're
not like, they're not hidden. Of

448
00:35:04.719 --> 00:35:09.199
course they did, and they're not
watermelon. Have you been playing anything you

449
00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:15.000
want to talk about. I've been
playing Puzzmo. Have you ever heard of

450
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:16.559
Puzzmo? Oh? This sounds cool, man, I can't get a ticket.

451
00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:25.159
Uh. Puzzmo is a collection of
puzzle games that I've been bought together.

452
00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:30.480
They are the the combined works of
Zach Gage. Zach is known for

453
00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:36.920
like Type Shift, Really Bad Chess, Spell Tower, and various others.

454
00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:40.840
And what Zach Gage and team have
done is collect all of these into like

455
00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:45.639
a single place where you click the
website and you go in there and there's

456
00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:51.480
a bunch of fresh every daily puzzles
in there, and you do them,

457
00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:54.039
and then you get a daily score
and you can add friends and compete with

458
00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:59.719
them and have a kind of like
a general worldwide leader board as well.

459
00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:02.400
The tricky part is that right now, to get in, you need to

460
00:36:02.519 --> 00:36:07.880
be one of the first five hundred
people to solve a daily puzzle. I

461
00:36:08.039 --> 00:36:13.159
managed to do it, and when
I did it, they posted me the

462
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:16.719
key to the game. Well,
they posted me, they posted me puzzles,

463
00:36:16.840 --> 00:36:22.519
they sent puzzles. Yeah, so
I got I got puzzles, and

464
00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:28.760
I completed the puzzles, and as
part of completing the puzzles, it reveals

465
00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:34.880
like certain letters and numbers that fill
in the remainder of a key that they

466
00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:38.760
give you, so and that becomes
the key that you use. For example,

467
00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:42.920
I've got really bad chess hair,
which is like a chess thing and

468
00:36:43.159 --> 00:36:46.199
it's got four boards in it,
and it tells you your players the white

469
00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:50.920
h puzzle find the right move to
checkmate. And then once you do the

470
00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:54.280
right move to checkmate, you get
like one, two through four digits that

471
00:36:54.199 --> 00:36:59.599
that you can use on the puzzle
side to it to unlock it and give

472
00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:02.320
yourself entry. And it is it
is very very very cool. I just

473
00:37:02.440 --> 00:37:06.320
I just think that's nice. That's
neat. I'm trying to get in there.

474
00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:10.360
Yep, I'm not smart enough.
Maybe maybe it can sharn my way.

475
00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:17.639
It's it's it's fairly easy, so
and uh and uh. It's it's

476
00:37:17.679 --> 00:37:22.880
kind of like an extension of a
The New York Times puzzle app, which

477
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:27.960
I'm obsessed with as well. So
I am looking for more puzzles. So

478
00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:30.719
I was like, yeah, I
do the wordl in there. I do

479
00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:34.760
the connections, and I do the
daily Crossroads connections fux me up so bad.

480
00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:37.519
Some of them are really annoying.
They're so all of them are so

481
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:44.639
ship. It is a very annoying
game. My wife likes, thank you,

482
00:37:44.920 --> 00:37:46.119
she loves it, and she has
a pretty good success. Right,

483
00:37:46.159 --> 00:37:51.119
I've gotten one correct. I've maybe
done like twenty of them and I've gotten

484
00:37:51.159 --> 00:37:55.559
only one. It's bullshit. I
still play still place to delgu I still

485
00:37:55.559 --> 00:38:00.800
do the crossword, you know,
but world fucking pisses me off to I

486
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:02.639
love word or I mean it's fine. I do it, but it's like

487
00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:05.920
what, I don't know, It's
like, whatever was the last time you

488
00:38:05.960 --> 00:38:10.199
got word all wrong? I I
actually got it wrong a couple of days

489
00:38:10.199 --> 00:38:15.440
ago where it was like I got
all the letters except for the starting one

490
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:19.159
right. So it was a case
of going through and like one by one

491
00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:23.639
guessing if it's you know quite like
blaze pays or well, you know,

492
00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:27.320
the one thing like that, and
then it's like I didn't guess the right

493
00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:28.960
letter, and then he showed me. I was like, okay, it

494
00:38:29.039 --> 00:38:32.519
was that one other letter that so
yeah, that that is that was the

495
00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:37.559
last time I go wrong and it
was devastating. What's your what's your what's

496
00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:43.199
your opening word for wordles? Dumpy? Nice? Good one, that's good.

497
00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:45.840
That's mine's anime? Which is that's
good? Pretty good? All good

498
00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:50.639
options, all good options. Yeah, I do penis. It's not funny.

499
00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:52.599
It's not helpful, but it's funny
to me. No, I think

500
00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:55.599
it is helpful. You have to
eat, yeah, yeah, you know,

501
00:38:55.800 --> 00:39:01.760
yeah about the vowels with the most
vowel all right, all right,

502
00:39:02.599 --> 00:39:07.280
I think, wow, damn anything
else you've been playing, sir, I've

503
00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:09.320
been playing Cocoon. I'm like,
oh, yeah, I've just been playing.

504
00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:17.159
Like that's a wonderful little game.
I I how how do you describe

505
00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:22.760
this state where you are approaching a
puzzle game or a puzzle like game and

506
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:27.360
then you just don't think. You
just go and then like it's smoothly opera.

507
00:39:27.760 --> 00:39:30.679
You're just firing on off on all
cylinders. You've tapped, you've opened

508
00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:35.079
your third eye, and you're just
going. Because I've found myself with that

509
00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:37.639
with Cocoon, where I just build
a momentum of like I don't need to

510
00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:40.800
think, I know where this is. Yeah, it's just it feels like

511
00:39:40.840 --> 00:39:45.920
it's like an instinctual puzzle game where
it's like you don't have to think about

512
00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:49.960
it. It's just you don't you
don't even need to really consider consider the

513
00:39:50.079 --> 00:39:52.719
rules of the game. You just
do it through feel mostly like you.

514
00:39:53.039 --> 00:39:55.760
You don't really like, oh now
I have this and I need to put

515
00:39:55.760 --> 00:40:00.679
this hair. It's just you go
with the flow and as you this happening,

516
00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:02.599
you're just in that flow state where
you're just solving the puzzles to keep

517
00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:07.400
going. Yes, yeah, and
and and it's yeah, it's it's it's

518
00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:09.440
a fantastic I think it's like four
or five hours long or something like that.

519
00:40:09.599 --> 00:40:13.360
Yeah, it is great. It's
it's a I think I clocked in

520
00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:16.280
four and a half and then beat
it. So is this also in game

521
00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:19.800
Pass? Because this is another no
brainer if it's on the game Pass,

522
00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:22.159
Yes it is. It is on
game Pass. The sound design of this

523
00:40:23.159 --> 00:40:29.400
absolutely fantastic. It is very good. You know, you're just a neat

524
00:40:29.400 --> 00:40:34.440
little guy running around, but the
way they play with scale, just with

525
00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:37.599
sound fantastic. Hey, that's at
least two games I've beat this year,

526
00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:45.480
I think with Liza p and Cocoon. There you go out of you Thanks

527
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:50.719
thanks Bud. All right, I've
I got one more game to talk about

528
00:40:50.760 --> 00:40:57.599
before we had to break here.
What's up, the folks. I also

529
00:40:57.599 --> 00:41:00.840
played NHL twenty four the other day, but I'm not going to talk about

530
00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:05.239
it, so I just want to
put that out there. No, I'm

531
00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:12.920
just because for Tuesday. Yea,
Yeah, there's ice is fine. The

532
00:41:13.079 --> 00:41:16.480
ice is fine. The ice is
seeds in it, called veins in it,

533
00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:23.280
called state on it. So easy, Tam, he's loaded. Hey,

534
00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:28.639
y'all know me. We're all friends
here. Y'all know my odd obsession

535
00:41:28.920 --> 00:41:37.760
and fondness for tiles and tile like
Tactica, Baby, Persona Tactica. Why

536
00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:42.599
did they do this to me,
Tam? Why they say good tile game?

537
00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:46.199
It is such a good tile game. First, okay, I thought

538
00:41:46.199 --> 00:41:51.559
I I after playing through Persona FIV
Royal, I thought, all right,

539
00:41:51.599 --> 00:41:52.719
I'm done. I'm out of this. I don't want anything to do with

540
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:57.760
these kids anymore. The great,
good, good bunch of eggs. I'm

541
00:41:57.760 --> 00:42:00.400
done with them. And then Strikers
came out and and I was like,

542
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:02.800
ah, Strikers is gonna be dog
shit. It's like gonna be amoso.

543
00:42:04.119 --> 00:42:08.000
And you know what, it was
great. I absolutely loved Persona five Strikers,

544
00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:14.280
and then this came out. This
is wait a minute, r s

545
00:42:14.480 --> 00:42:17.960
t oh shit, anyway, you
see what they're doing with the titles per

546
00:42:17.960 --> 00:42:21.480
so, yeah, okay, cool
cool cool cool cool cool cool cool.

547
00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:25.480
Uh And I thought Tactica okay,
my interest is peaked. And then I

548
00:42:25.519 --> 00:42:29.679
saw that everyone was all chea be
formed, and I'm like, can't I

549
00:42:29.719 --> 00:42:34.079
can't really get into it. But
then I saw the saw the tiles.

550
00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:37.679
Now, now, how do you
feel about the kids? What's up?

551
00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:39.559
Now? How do you feel about
the kids? Oh? I fucking love

552
00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:45.000
these kids. These kids are great. I can't get God got me all

553
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:51.000
right, he's a clown. He's
a clown that's been a BombCast revenge.

554
00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:57.159
But hey, all all jokes aside, all grins and giggles aside. Persona

555
00:42:57.159 --> 00:43:04.519
five Tactica is an absolutely fantastic tactics
game. They've learned a lot and taken

556
00:43:04.840 --> 00:43:10.960
the right lessons learned from more modern
tactics games. My one grievance, and

557
00:43:12.039 --> 00:43:15.400
this is the silliest grievance I understand, but instead of snapping two tiles,

558
00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:21.119
you are running to the tiles,
versus like being on a visible grid at

559
00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:27.000
all times. But the tools that
they give you. A problem in tactics

560
00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:30.199
games, at least from the get
go, is it doesn't feel like you're

561
00:43:30.199 --> 00:43:35.199
synergizing well with your party members at
all. It's just like your three separate

562
00:43:35.320 --> 00:43:39.119
entities just going about trying to complete
the levels. Objective that happened a lot

563
00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:44.840
in the early bits of Mario,
the Mario and Rabbids games, where Okay,

564
00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:49.239
Luigi's really good at sniping. I'm
just gonna keep moving Luigi and snipe

565
00:43:49.239 --> 00:43:52.840
everyone and everyone else is gonna like
just make it to the finish line.

566
00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:59.440
Here. In Persona five Tactica,
everything you do can wind up synergizing really

567
00:43:59.440 --> 00:44:04.519
well with each other. One of
the biggest instances is that it's been a

568
00:44:04.559 --> 00:44:09.480
long time in a tile based tactics
game that isn't an xcom where positioning is

569
00:44:09.679 --> 00:44:15.960
very very important because cover plays a
big role because everyone's got everyone's loaded up,

570
00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:19.400
everyone's got a gun, and you
can walk up to an enemy,

571
00:44:19.800 --> 00:44:22.239
smack them, and then if you
do a melee attack, it will physically

572
00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:25.599
move them across the map or to
a different point of the map, and

573
00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:30.880
you can play with that with knocking
them into another enemy, knocking them into

574
00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:34.840
an obstacle, but if you manage
to down an enemy, it does the

575
00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:39.639
whole one more attack that you get
in Persona, but here positioning plays a

576
00:44:39.639 --> 00:44:46.559
big role because if they are within
the radius of all three of your characters

577
00:44:46.559 --> 00:44:50.400
that you're playing with at the same
time, you could do an all out

578
00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:53.679
attack, and whoever's caught in that
triangle, whether it's the enemy that's downed

579
00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:57.719
or not, will wind up getting
caught up in like the all out scuffle.

580
00:44:57.800 --> 00:45:00.840
It's it's really great, and they
do smart stuff where they're not completely

581
00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:06.960
ripping off like the Overwatch mechanic in
x COM. They're doing like charges,

582
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:10.480
so each different character has a different
chargeability. One of the first ones you

583
00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:15.639
get is if a character is charging, she has the ability to down an

584
00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:20.559
enemy even if they're behind cover,
because cover is mucho mucco important in this

585
00:45:20.639 --> 00:45:24.480
game. And also it still has
all of the Persona rappings that draw people

586
00:45:24.519 --> 00:45:27.880
to the series. It's all scaled
back in a way, so you don't

587
00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:30.119
have to worry, at least where
I'm at. You don't have to worry

588
00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:34.360
about social links too much. You
don't have to worry about like appeasing all

589
00:45:34.400 --> 00:45:37.960
of your different friend groups and the
neat thing about how the story is being

590
00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:43.719
told out outside of the story missions
and cutscenes, it's just like little dialogue

591
00:45:43.760 --> 00:45:49.000
bits that you can fast forward through
or you can rewind back to and replay

592
00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:52.440
almost any time, just to if
you miss a little bit of the story.

593
00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:54.119
And I'm really digging it. I
fucking hate it. I don't need

594
00:45:54.159 --> 00:45:59.800
to dive into each JRPG, but
I'm going to. You have such emotional

595
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:01.920
wings with Tile games, man,
It's really it really is crazy, like

596
00:46:02.320 --> 00:46:07.360
you have these you become infatuated and
you're just like off in this new relationship

597
00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:12.199
and like it's just must be nice, like may therapies and may therapies with

598
00:46:12.400 --> 00:46:15.440
my friends here on the internet.
Please. Yes, I think I think

599
00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:22.239
I like Tile games because I'm a
mess of a human being otherwise order actually,

600
00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:25.440
yeah, it's the only order that
I get. You know, it's

601
00:46:25.480 --> 00:46:32.239
like that sounds right, you know, I'm a mailstrom inside. Yeah,

602
00:46:34.079 --> 00:46:38.840
tactics. I'm about maybe like three
and a half hours into this as well.

603
00:46:40.039 --> 00:46:45.159
It's I'm at the time, man, You're talking like I'm just I'm

604
00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:46.760
just sectioning them off. I'm like, all right, gotta clock out,

605
00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:52.039
try a new thing, and then
people are putting this other ship on my

606
00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:57.039
radar, like paranormal site. What
the fuck is this? Oh that sounds

607
00:46:57.039 --> 00:47:02.559
cool. It's a ghost game or
some ship that was about sixty hours long.

608
00:47:02.599 --> 00:47:07.519
So good luck, man, got
good dicks, big old b dicks,

609
00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:14.920
right, tell me about it.
I thought twenty five hours. Okay,

610
00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:19.519
I've made it a forty hour game. You definitely can't go along by

611
00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:24.159
right, Yeah, completion is like
twenty five to Bailey, I saw before

612
00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:27.400
we go to break real quick,
if you want to chat about Allen Wake

613
00:47:27.400 --> 00:47:29.719
too real quick. I saw that
you started playing it on your streams.

614
00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:32.800
How's the scare factor been? Because
I know that that was a limiting factor

615
00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:37.880
for a while. I am a
coward with fear in my heart. I

616
00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:40.920
don't play horror games because it's just
it puts me too much in the horror

617
00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:45.639
situation. I am in the Witch's
cabin. I'm like, so the monster

618
00:47:45.719 --> 00:47:47.760
can't get me here, and you
want me to leave. I don't understand.

619
00:47:49.400 --> 00:47:52.719
That's not how I would act in
this situation. But I'm not saga,

620
00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:55.960
so she's just excited about the case. I guess I have to learn

621
00:47:57.000 --> 00:48:00.320
to inhabit other people. I suppose
it's very scary. I have been.

622
00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:04.559
I'm so tense the whole time I'm
playing it. I'm very stressed out.

623
00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:08.800
Anytime someone like follows or sends bits
on my end it like does the notification

624
00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:14.039
sound? I like have a minor
heart attack for it. Like it's just

625
00:48:14.280 --> 00:48:20.440
everything is scary to me. Do
it? Question from the back, John

626
00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:28.960
bum thank you. Question Bailey the
Queen of Goosebumps. Yeah, scared.

627
00:48:29.719 --> 00:48:32.440
I can't play horror games. I'm
very bad at them. I don't understand.

628
00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:37.280
I mean it. I'm not bad
at them in the technical gameplayway.

629
00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:39.519
I did beat that first boss in
one try, but I'm bad at them

630
00:48:39.639 --> 00:48:43.719
in the This is shaving years off
my life every time I play it.

631
00:48:43.960 --> 00:48:47.519
The first Nightingale boss I think is
like it's it's a scary boss battle,

632
00:48:47.719 --> 00:48:55.199
sure, but like Goosebumps, Goosebumps
isn't scary though, but I feel like

633
00:48:55.519 --> 00:48:59.719
BOMs is for children. No.
I know, but you could say that

634
00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:02.360
about like I guess you can't really
say that about like something like Beetlejuice or

635
00:49:02.400 --> 00:49:10.960
like beatle Juice has like would you
say everyone everyone go bump is more like

636
00:49:12.039 --> 00:49:15.079
in the in the realm of like
hocus Pocus. It's more like, it's

637
00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:19.519
more like the Midnight Society, right, Like, it's more like are you

638
00:49:19.559 --> 00:49:24.239
afraid of the Dark? Just because
Alan Wick fully ripped off its plot from

639
00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:29.840
the Goosebumps book The Blood that everyone
doesn't mean it is a Goosebumps book,

640
00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:34.559
right, But you're already used to
this story, so you should know what

641
00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:38.440
to expect and therefore, and I'm
used to the ship writing, so I

642
00:49:38.519 --> 00:49:44.719
mean is a ship writer canonically,
So that's funny. Imagine R l Stein

643
00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:53.360
wrote a quality wise. Rl Stein
and Alan Wick are approximately I would never

644
00:49:53.639 --> 00:49:57.320
say a word against Arlstein. I
take it all back. I take it

645
00:49:57.320 --> 00:50:00.280
all back. Have you have you
ever met have you ever met are?

646
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:04.559
Oh? No? But I have
signed books from him. That's cool.

647
00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:09.039
That's almost the same thing. What
about that's neat but he really takes his

648
00:50:09.119 --> 00:50:15.599
time there? Uh? What about? Like? Uh? I guess,

649
00:50:15.719 --> 00:50:20.320
I guess it's unfair to compare the
two in levels of horror. I think

650
00:50:20.360 --> 00:50:23.920
Allen Wake is at like a seven
and Goosebumps is at like a two and

651
00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:29.119
a half at best, right,
Like, so I understand, are you

652
00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:32.000
gonna you're gonna stick through it?
Bailey? I'm gonna try to. I'm

653
00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:37.039
very intrigued by it, and I
do enjoy the commercials in the town,

654
00:50:37.760 --> 00:50:42.360
and I like the story, and
I am not bad at the gameplay,

655
00:50:42.440 --> 00:50:45.800
but I am so afraid all the
time. And I'll be serious for a

656
00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:49.760
second because I do think, Look, this game obviously goes for a lot

657
00:50:49.760 --> 00:50:52.320
of cheap scares. I do think
like some of the jumpy things when you're

658
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:54.239
entering an area, it's just like, come on, I didn't need that.

659
00:50:54.280 --> 00:50:57.039
And I've jumped at the game and
I'm just like, come on,

660
00:50:57.159 --> 00:51:00.400
come on, stop stupid, dear
man. I knew it was come because

661
00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:06.480
I saw and not even that like
I thought that was like an earned one.

662
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:09.760
It's the ones where they just literally
flash like a dead alan wake for

663
00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:14.639
a second, or like a nightingale, you know, uh black and white

664
00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:19.239
photo for a second. I think
as a whole though, like I think

665
00:51:19.280 --> 00:51:24.199
it's more environmentally foreboding than it is
actual like pure horror. And again that

666
00:51:24.239 --> 00:51:29.760
doesn't mean that like it should you
should be more forgiving. But I want

667
00:51:29.760 --> 00:51:31.519
I would love to see you play
it through. I really would value your

668
00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:37.559
opinion. Join us on Mondays or
Wednesdays sometime We're gonna do it Monday,

669
00:51:37.639 --> 00:51:38.960
right, Yeah, we're gonna do
it Monday, just like we're about to

670
00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:43.039
do a quick breaky break, We'll
be back with a hot topic. But

671
00:51:43.119 --> 00:51:45.920
Tail, I understand you might have
to dip. I got a dip.

672
00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:51.159
I allocated one hour for revengeance.
My revengeance time that it has been reached,

673
00:51:51.320 --> 00:51:53.000
well, please leave it. Leave
us with your favorite, uh,

674
00:51:54.199 --> 00:52:02.280
the soundboard hit of the week.
I know you could even imagine it.

675
00:52:04.199 --> 00:52:06.480
First second, I thought it was
going to be the whole monologue. All

676
00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:13.000
right, see it in just a
second. Holy smokes. That was I

677
00:52:13.719 --> 00:52:16.239
don't know how long I've been holding
in p but it was too long.

678
00:52:16.440 --> 00:52:21.000
And then I was surprised, and
I'm like, oh man, all right,

679
00:52:21.360 --> 00:52:25.000
but we're back with Tam. TAM's
still pissing. Tam is still pissing.

680
00:52:25.440 --> 00:52:30.239
He he allotted us one hour of
his time and then the rest of

681
00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:34.719
the time is dedicated to pissing.
Yeah, and that's just how life be

682
00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:38.119
sometimes, you know, He's just
a piss boy. You know. I

683
00:52:38.159 --> 00:52:45.760
appreciate everyone that has reached out to
me with their different indie game recommendations.

684
00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:47.480
And let me tell you, there
is an obscene amount of games that came

685
00:52:47.519 --> 00:52:51.239
out this year. Bailey, I
know you say that you don't like horror

686
00:52:51.239 --> 00:52:53.559
games, but I think you should
check out World of Horror. World of

687
00:52:53.559 --> 00:52:58.000
Horror. Yes, World of Horror. It's like a text based Jimmy jam

688
00:52:58.159 --> 00:53:00.239
that I think I think you might, didn't you, boy? You like

689
00:53:00.239 --> 00:53:05.280
it lends itself, So yeah,
I I like text based. I like

690
00:53:05.360 --> 00:53:08.239
that, And I mean there are
a couple like spookier games that I've been

691
00:53:08.639 --> 00:53:14.920
very interested in. This looks scary, but it's not fun the like ah

692
00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:19.719
scary, it's like uh yeah,
no, I I mean, I mean,

693
00:53:19.920 --> 00:53:22.440
please, don't get me wrong.
I I enjoy horror content. It's

694
00:53:22.519 --> 00:53:28.159
just horror games when you have to
physically progress forward in spite of the fact

695
00:53:28.159 --> 00:53:30.880
that I would not do that.
It's hard, but I do want to.

696
00:53:31.159 --> 00:53:34.440
My sister won't stop talking about fear
and hunger, so I want to

697
00:53:34.440 --> 00:53:39.000
play that too. Oh that's what's
his face? Johnny John's playing that right?

698
00:53:39.480 --> 00:53:44.800
Oh yeah, yeah, Hi,
patch Wol's been playing this man.

699
00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:47.119
There are so many other games.
I feel like I got to get off

700
00:53:47.159 --> 00:53:50.239
the list before we get to the
Game of the Year, and I just

701
00:53:50.360 --> 00:53:54.559
made the list longer with all these
all these smaller titles. Jane, there

702
00:53:54.599 --> 00:53:58.199
was something I wanted to talk about
real quick before we get into the discussion.

703
00:53:58.239 --> 00:54:02.400
The magazine feature article of the the
topic. Yes, so, uh

704
00:54:02.440 --> 00:54:08.320
we've got I've got a bunch of
messages in our discord and other places about

705
00:54:08.599 --> 00:54:16.159
tickets for our Game of the Year, and uh we have Uh it's showing

706
00:54:16.239 --> 00:54:22.320
a sold out status on ticketmaster dot
com, which is good and bad.

707
00:54:22.599 --> 00:54:28.800
It's good because you feel good and
it's bad because you want more people to

708
00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:30.519
be able to come to the show. So just want everyone to know we're

709
00:54:30.559 --> 00:54:34.760
like actively trying to figure out a
way to cramp some more butts into that

710
00:54:34.880 --> 00:54:39.119
venue. So I can't promise anything, but we're actively uh trying to address

711
00:54:39.159 --> 00:54:42.880
it, and we'll see how that
goes. It's not up to us.

712
00:54:44.400 --> 00:54:52.760
I know, I know it's Tam
talked about Ticketmaster. We finally sold that,

713
00:54:52.880 --> 00:54:57.519
we finally did the real big Fish
song. Okay happened. Yeah,

714
00:54:57.599 --> 00:55:00.679
you know, Tam talked about this
earlier and gave us more. But I

715
00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:05.960
couldn't help but have that fear as
soon as the tickets went on sale of

716
00:55:06.039 --> 00:55:10.599
like what if no one goes Yeah, that would have been uh what if

717
00:55:10.639 --> 00:55:15.039
no one shows up, it would
have been what it would have been tough

718
00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:19.760
hate me? And then look,
we all had to face some demons that

719
00:55:19.800 --> 00:55:23.559
morning, didn't we. I was
just having those continued existential thoughts of like

720
00:55:23.920 --> 00:55:32.800
everyone left, no one likes me, okay, no, it would be

721
00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:36.599
us. It wouldn't just be you, Okay, so don't you wouldn't have

722
00:55:36.599 --> 00:55:38.760
to share that burden. No one
likes how I say, hey, everybody,

723
00:55:38.800 --> 00:55:44.440
it's Tuesday, Like, is jan
gonna be there? Then I'm not

724
00:55:44.760 --> 00:55:52.159
buying anything. I can sold my
lifetime premium subscription because of that brown guy.

725
00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:59.800
Whoa god, I'm not racist.
The answer you have to stop quoting

726
00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:05.960
Backler's emails to you on the podcast. Uh Bailey, Yeah shouts out,

727
00:56:06.000 --> 00:56:08.360
shouts out to everyone that bought a
ticket, and yeah yeah, back Lar

728
00:56:08.599 --> 00:56:17.360
and and mostly back primarily back Lark. Is uh is doing the Lord's work

729
00:56:17.440 --> 00:56:21.440
of getting more tickets available. We're
just gonna make the venue bigger, y'all.

730
00:56:22.320 --> 00:56:25.000
I mean, look, it's not
I. It kind of doesn't end

731
00:56:25.039 --> 00:56:30.119
with me, thankfully, but if
it did, there be more butts in

732
00:56:30.119 --> 00:56:31.719
that venue. We'll see. It's
not us, Like I said it up

733
00:56:31.719 --> 00:56:37.280
to the fire chief because I made
the venue small. Yeah did you make

734
00:56:37.320 --> 00:56:40.519
it small? Who made it so
small? Oh? No? Anyway,

735
00:56:43.119 --> 00:56:46.239
normal, Suze stand by. We'll
we'll tweet, we'll pop stuff up in

736
00:56:46.280 --> 00:56:49.960
the in the discord, and we'll
let everyone know if it's a if it's

737
00:56:50.000 --> 00:56:52.440
a thing. Yes, yes,
uh I was going to repeat the date,

738
00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:57.119
but it may not matter right now. We'll plug that afterwards. Uh.

739
00:56:57.159 --> 00:57:00.599
Hey, Bailey, what is your
favorite store at the mall? My

740
00:57:00.639 --> 00:57:06.079
favorite store at the mall? Ooh? I like to smell the candles at

741
00:57:06.079 --> 00:57:08.159
Bath and body Works. Okay,
okay, you know what my favorite store

742
00:57:08.239 --> 00:57:13.360
is. I buy the candles.
What's up? What's your favorite what's your

743
00:57:13.360 --> 00:57:19.679
favorite store? Hot topic? Oh? Good sag? What if I had

744
00:57:19.719 --> 00:57:22.360
said hot topic? Would that fuck
you up? No? That would have

745
00:57:22.719 --> 00:57:25.880
I would have just didn't. What's
straight into it? Oh? I just

746
00:57:25.920 --> 00:57:29.599
wanted to talk about candles for a
hot second. This one smells like pumpkin

747
00:57:29.679 --> 00:57:32.400
clove backlard. Do you think it's
hard to sell candles? Can we sell

748
00:57:32.400 --> 00:57:37.079
candles? Uh? Do I think
it's hard to sell candles? I don't

749
00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:40.519
know if I think for candles it's
all the branding, So I think that's

750
00:57:40.559 --> 00:57:44.000
all it is. Like you could
have the best smelling one thing in the

751
00:57:44.039 --> 00:57:46.440
world, but can't smell shit over
the internet. I have a good wood

752
00:57:46.480 --> 00:57:50.039
Wick. I think we talked about
this a lot of time. I know

753
00:57:51.199 --> 00:57:54.920
it's the only Wickworth Wick and baby
that's it. Anyway. The hot topic

754
00:57:55.000 --> 00:58:00.559
of this week is the Game Awards. The nominations this year. Yes,

755
00:58:00.960 --> 00:58:06.239
that's why we're all going to see
each other very very soon. Game Awards

756
00:58:06.239 --> 00:58:12.639
are happening, and the nominees came
out earlier this week, I believe,

757
00:58:12.880 --> 00:58:15.760
And you know, like always with
any type of awards show, there's some

758
00:58:15.800 --> 00:58:21.639
scuttle butt that pops up when the
nominees get brought up, so like the

759
00:58:21.679 --> 00:58:29.320
snubs stuff that surprisingly did get nominated, confusion over categories, what actually qualifies

760
00:58:29.400 --> 00:58:34.480
as an indie versus not an indie? And I wanted to talk about the

761
00:58:34.480 --> 00:58:37.920
Game Awards with y'all, just like, Hey, where's where's where's the vibe

762
00:58:37.960 --> 00:58:39.760
at? Where's the feelings at with
the Game Awards? Do we have too

763
00:58:39.760 --> 00:58:45.360
many categories? Not enough? Backlaw, You've physically attended the Game Awards,

764
00:58:45.480 --> 00:58:51.519
so so what are your feelings heading
into this one? Yeah? I mean,

765
00:58:51.719 --> 00:58:57.320
look, you guys going to the
Game Awards is it's nice, and

766
00:58:57.480 --> 00:59:01.159
I think the best part about going
to the Game Awards is certainly seeing everyone

767
00:59:01.400 --> 00:59:06.480
right, like, without a doubt, full stop. Okay, I would

768
00:59:06.559 --> 00:59:12.199
rather hang out with you know,
old friends and old colleagues than like stare

769
00:59:12.239 --> 00:59:16.480
at fucking al Pacino for like thirty
minutes and be like, what's happening that?

770
00:59:16.960 --> 00:59:20.239
It was great to be in the
same room as mister Puccino, But

771
00:59:20.480 --> 00:59:24.840
then today the the award show,
it's it's kind of like, I don't

772
00:59:24.960 --> 00:59:30.039
know. I I I feel like
I could get a little ranty with this

773
00:59:30.039 --> 00:59:34.480
stuff, but I just don't.
I just don't know how important it is.

774
00:59:35.159 --> 00:59:38.440
I do want to I can't have
food in that venue. I do

775
00:59:38.519 --> 00:59:43.239
want to say drinks. Shouts out
to Jeff Keeley though for like putting this

776
00:59:43.559 --> 00:59:50.440
thing together like this is doubt yea, And this is not a criticism of

777
00:59:50.719 --> 00:59:55.639
mister Keeley at all. Okay,
Fortnite's own Jeff Keeley. Again, this

778
00:59:55.679 --> 01:00:00.000
show has to be a certain thing
for it to be viable, right,

779
01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:04.920
And I just think, like you
can't sit there and you know you're it's

780
01:00:05.320 --> 01:00:12.039
it feels very much like a Sony
or Microsoft press conference of yesteryear. Of

781
01:00:12.039 --> 01:00:15.440
E three yester year, right,
we were in that very same arena,

782
01:00:15.440 --> 01:00:19.320
although Nintendo historically I believe, was
in the place where the Game Awards were.

783
01:00:19.480 --> 01:00:22.639
Either way, it does feel like
that you're bombarded, you know.

784
01:00:22.840 --> 01:00:25.320
I think last year, like the
first half hour they carved out for best

785
01:00:25.840 --> 01:00:30.960
Performance, and that felt I was
like, Oh, this is gonna be

786
01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:34.519
like a very like awards focused kind
of thing. But no, it was

787
01:00:34.599 --> 01:00:37.280
then the second that ended, which
obviously I think it went longer than anyone

788
01:00:37.320 --> 01:00:42.519
anticipated, but it was just trailer
after trailer and you were just doing that

789
01:00:42.679 --> 01:00:46.519
and then literally like Kelley would get
on a thing and like show a power

790
01:00:46.559 --> 01:00:51.639
point slide and be like, all
these games just won too. Up next,

791
01:00:51.920 --> 01:00:54.039
let's see the new tra and you're
like, all right, So you

792
01:00:54.079 --> 01:00:58.719
know, I don't know. I
think I don't. I think that's fair

793
01:00:58.760 --> 01:01:02.360
criticism. I also think it's the
or is everyone universally shares about that show,

794
01:01:05.719 --> 01:01:07.119
and you know, right now,
that's what that show has to be

795
01:01:07.239 --> 01:01:13.400
until someone comes around and it's like, we want to buy the entire game

796
01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:17.960
Awards and we want exclusivity of the
buye right, and you can just make

797
01:01:19.000 --> 01:01:22.320
everything else like the show, which
is never gonna happen. It's just that's

798
01:01:22.320 --> 01:01:28.360
that's probably what it's going to be
like for the next great while. Yeah,

799
01:01:28.360 --> 01:01:32.960
I think personally I attended one year. I attended the year that the

800
01:01:34.079 --> 01:01:38.239
Super Giant team performed some beautiful music
and then imagine dragons came out in sweatpants.

801
01:01:38.559 --> 01:01:45.000
Yeah, that was a fun year. I think for the Game Awards,

802
01:01:45.039 --> 01:01:46.480
first of all, if ever,
there was a year that needed a

803
01:01:46.559 --> 01:01:52.239
Razzies category, this is the year
between Gollum and the Bad King Kong game,

804
01:01:52.400 --> 01:01:55.679
Like, we had so much to
work with here. But I think

805
01:01:55.719 --> 01:02:00.800
my major criticism of the Awards is
that, like everyone may it's like a

806
01:02:00.840 --> 01:02:06.239
funny meme now that people are keep
going up on the stage, but like

807
01:02:06.280 --> 01:02:09.480
it's a security risk. Yeah,
it's actually a security risk. Like why

808
01:02:09.559 --> 01:02:15.599
has that not been been figured out
yet? And I'm praying this year there's

809
01:02:15.679 --> 01:02:21.519
actual security at the event where all
these people are. Yeah, because very

810
01:02:21.559 --> 01:02:25.840
fair, Like right now we've had
kind of best case scenarios with uh oh,

811
01:02:25.920 --> 01:02:30.679
someone's on the stage that shouldn't be
and I really don't want things to

812
01:02:30.719 --> 01:02:34.679
be worse than that. No,
Like I don't know how do I put

813
01:02:34.719 --> 01:02:37.159
out in the universe, like hey, get security for your event. Yeah.

814
01:02:37.320 --> 01:02:40.760
No, I mean I'm sure at
the you know, autopsy of last

815
01:02:40.800 --> 01:02:45.199
year's show, they were basically like, Okay, what is the thing we

816
01:02:45.280 --> 01:02:49.559
need to do to make sure that
never happens again? And maybe that changes

817
01:02:49.599 --> 01:02:52.079
the show, I'll be honest,
Like, you go to that show,

818
01:02:52.079 --> 01:02:54.199
it's a fucking circus, you know, there's no like you get in there

819
01:02:54.199 --> 01:02:57.239
and I was. I had never
been before, and I'm like, oh,

820
01:02:57.239 --> 01:03:00.199
maybe it'll be like assigned seats or
something like that. It's like none

821
01:03:00.239 --> 01:03:02.360
of that. You just like fill
in. Really there's not really Yeah,

822
01:03:02.480 --> 01:03:09.199
there's not really like any sort of
order that I remember there being. And

823
01:03:09.840 --> 01:03:15.440
maybe that changes now. Maybe it's
more legit, a legit event. I

824
01:03:15.480 --> 01:03:19.559
don't know, because people treat it
like it's not legit because it's video game.

825
01:03:19.599 --> 01:03:22.239
It's like it's not the Oscars.
It doesn't need a security team.

826
01:03:22.320 --> 01:03:25.239
It does kind of be a security
team. Absolutely it absolutely you were,

827
01:03:25.320 --> 01:03:29.039
you were. It's a show to
you know, it is a bit of

828
01:03:29.079 --> 01:03:31.360
a closed show, a private show. Not really they sell public tickets.

829
01:03:31.440 --> 01:03:37.159
Yeah, it's absolutely open to the
games come too, like like what happened

830
01:03:37.199 --> 01:03:40.559
to games come? Another person the
stage? Yeah, Oh my gosh,

831
01:03:40.599 --> 01:03:45.679
what was it the same person?
No, why didn't we see this person

832
01:03:45.719 --> 01:03:51.119
again? Somewhere they popped up at
like a they popped up at like a

833
01:03:51.280 --> 01:03:55.800
WWE event. The kid that stormed
the stage last year sucks up with this

834
01:03:55.960 --> 01:04:00.679
kid man children on the internet.
Don't let them, don't let them have

835
01:04:00.760 --> 01:04:05.519
it. No, and like to
be clear, from a production point of

836
01:04:05.559 --> 01:04:09.920
view, like it's a tight run
ship, like it is a very well

837
01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:15.400
executed, the highest professional level like
show, seeing it conducted live, like

838
01:04:15.440 --> 01:04:19.039
it's definitely an impressive amount of movie
parts, right, yeah, like it's

839
01:04:19.159 --> 01:04:24.159
it's it's done very very well.
I think, you know, And I

840
01:04:24.239 --> 01:04:27.880
realized, like, oh, people
really probably wouldn't watch it if there wasn't

841
01:04:27.880 --> 01:04:30.239
like a new trailer for a game
that's not going to be out for three

842
01:04:30.320 --> 01:04:32.480
years, Like I got it.
I understand that. I'm very aware of

843
01:04:32.519 --> 01:04:39.880
that. That doesn't make it,
like doesn't necessarily make it an absolutely great

844
01:04:39.920 --> 01:04:44.480
experience overall. Yeah, I think
my biggest problem, and you mentioned this

845
01:04:44.719 --> 01:04:50.719
earlier, Jeff, but it feels
it feels bad when they flash up a

846
01:04:50.719 --> 01:04:55.719
slide of like here's these five winners
of five separate categories. That's got to

847
01:04:55.719 --> 01:04:59.800
get better, you know, and
like I I think the industry definitely needs

848
01:04:59.800 --> 01:05:04.079
this some highlighting of the winds that
it has this year, especially with the

849
01:05:04.119 --> 01:05:09.760
obscene amount of layoffs across the board. And like, I don't know,

850
01:05:09.800 --> 01:05:13.079
how do they address that at all? Right, Like do they address any

851
01:05:13.159 --> 01:05:18.360
of the bigger problems plaguing the industry, let alone any world events plaguing the

852
01:05:18.400 --> 01:05:23.239
world? Right now? Does that
get touched at the Game Awards or is

853
01:05:23.639 --> 01:05:27.480
they just keeping that away with a
ten foot poll. I'd like to see

854
01:05:27.519 --> 01:05:30.360
some type of addressing of like especially
the layoffs at least. Yeah, you

855
01:05:30.400 --> 01:05:35.000
know, because like Backlard did,
were there any big wigs that you recognized

856
01:05:35.079 --> 01:05:40.679
or saw attending the Game Awards other
than like smaller devs people, publishers,

857
01:05:40.880 --> 01:05:45.719
people in marketing and other people in
media? I you know what I think

858
01:05:45.760 --> 01:05:49.199
too, I think they sell like
sweet access also, so like none of

859
01:05:49.239 --> 01:05:56.199
those people were mixing in with the
normies. I bet that's just an assumption,

860
01:05:58.159 --> 01:06:00.719
But yeah, I mean I think, like, I don't know,

861
01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:06.599
I don't know if that's the vibe
Achilles going for you know, he might

862
01:06:08.119 --> 01:06:13.559
again like that's that's a call that
you know, Like it's it's a very

863
01:06:13.559 --> 01:06:18.840
it's it's a show funded by the
industry right through their ad support, right,

864
01:06:18.960 --> 01:06:25.480
so, like you know, I
don't know, without a doubt,

865
01:06:25.920 --> 01:06:31.039
a crucial detail of the bizarre and
inexplicable state of this business right now,

866
01:06:31.719 --> 01:06:35.280
Like games have never sold better,
yet layoffs have never been more horrific and

867
01:06:35.320 --> 01:06:40.800
widespread, which like seven thousand people
laid off total in the industry, to

868
01:06:40.880 --> 01:06:45.559
bananas, it's fucking bananas, right, fucking bullshit is what it is.

869
01:06:45.920 --> 01:06:54.360
It's it is unconscionable for companies to
be making this amount of money and they're

870
01:06:54.400 --> 01:06:57.840
only making this amount of money because
they're not paying the people who got them

871
01:06:57.880 --> 01:07:00.880
there, because they're there's like there's
a human cost. And it's crazy to

872
01:07:00.920 --> 01:07:04.400
me that these people who work so
hard on the games we play and love

873
01:07:04.760 --> 01:07:09.239
are suffering. And it makes me
very upset actually, and I'm not going

874
01:07:09.320 --> 01:07:12.639
to talk about it. Yeah,
it upsets me. Yeah, it's super

875
01:07:12.639 --> 01:07:15.880
tragic. And if it affects and
it's not just gain, it's like just

876
01:07:15.960 --> 01:07:21.519
being a worker in America where you
are are valued as a a cog right

877
01:07:21.599 --> 01:07:25.440
instead of a person, which is
a big problem. Right, it just

878
01:07:25.480 --> 01:07:28.360
goes with it. It's every facet
And you know, I do think other

879
01:07:28.559 --> 01:07:33.360
industries in the in the country this
year have benefited from organizing, right,

880
01:07:33.480 --> 01:07:40.119
Like there's been a substantial uh labor
you know, empowerment movement. I think

881
01:07:40.159 --> 01:07:44.320
this year that you can find a
silver lining, that's probably it. But

882
01:07:44.400 --> 01:07:47.719
yeah, games industries fucking do Like
you know, these people work too hard,

883
01:07:47.960 --> 01:07:55.760
too too long on games that make
so much money to be treated like

884
01:07:56.039 --> 01:08:00.840
absolute garbage by the people reaping all
the reward. Yeah, yeah, one

885
01:08:00.920 --> 01:08:05.079
hundred per one hundred percent. Like
you know, we even see in the

886
01:08:05.239 --> 01:08:11.360
entertainment industry that Marvel's CGI teams are
are trying to unionize, right, Like

887
01:08:11.559 --> 01:08:17.520
good good because like yo, like
those people work stupid, insane ours just

888
01:08:17.560 --> 01:08:24.760
so people can quote Tony Stark for
another two decades. But you know,

889
01:08:24.920 --> 01:08:28.640
and and and hopefully that's the lesson
learned, right, Like, this country

890
01:08:28.720 --> 01:08:31.920
is not set up to uh,
you know, protect workers in any meaningful

891
01:08:31.960 --> 01:08:36.319
way, right, so, uh, the way you combat that is organizing.

892
01:08:36.439 --> 01:08:43.119
And I think some of the successes
from other industries have provided demonstrable examples

893
01:08:43.239 --> 01:08:47.279
of like how to how to be
successful at that uh And thankfully some of

894
01:08:47.279 --> 01:08:51.479
those are like uh, worker unions
that have like huge spotlights on them,

895
01:08:51.479 --> 01:08:56.640
like the w GA, the Writers
Guild and UH and and UAW and and

896
01:08:56.720 --> 01:09:02.880
even like the ups UH labor movement, like those are big highlight headline worker

897
01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:08.880
unions that paved a bit of a
path there. Yeah, my other hope,

898
01:09:08.920 --> 01:09:14.680
besides moving towards unionization in the games
industry, if that is at all

899
01:09:14.800 --> 01:09:20.319
possible, working underneath these giant companies
and not getting tamped out by these giant

900
01:09:20.319 --> 01:09:26.720
companies. My other hope is with
like the rise and the ability that we've

901
01:09:26.760 --> 01:09:31.439
seen with being able to develop and
publish a game fully remote, that that

902
01:09:31.720 --> 01:09:35.199
is able to create more opportunities for
people across the board, right, Like

903
01:09:35.279 --> 01:09:41.760
you don't have to force people to
live and work in these super expensive cities

904
01:09:41.760 --> 01:09:45.560
anymore. They're able to work wherever
they can in the world, in the

905
01:09:45.640 --> 01:09:50.560
country, as long as you know, like they are accountable and we can

906
01:09:50.680 --> 01:09:56.640
all collectively make this thing together.
Hopefully that leads to some type of change

907
01:09:56.720 --> 01:10:00.319
within the industry. I mean,
we see grub brings us up every now

908
01:10:00.319 --> 01:10:06.520
and then, like these people that
bounce off of a game, bounce bounce

909
01:10:06.560 --> 01:10:10.920
off of like a big studio to
form their own studio and they're able to

910
01:10:10.920 --> 01:10:15.600
create dozens, if not hundreds of
jobs for their fellow developers. I think

911
01:10:15.800 --> 01:10:20.159
that is like the move that I
want to start going towards where you just

912
01:10:20.239 --> 01:10:27.079
have more smaller companies that can employ
people across the board, because otherwise,

913
01:10:27.800 --> 01:10:34.119
you know, working underneath like a
Ubisoft now a Microsoft or even Sony is

914
01:10:34.159 --> 01:10:38.840
not the business. You are not
safe. You're never safe, especially the

915
01:10:38.880 --> 01:10:42.800
lower you are in like the ladder. Absolutely, And it's just it.

916
01:10:43.840 --> 01:10:47.359
It's not a coincidence you're seeing fewer
and fewer games companies because they're just eating

917
01:10:47.359 --> 01:10:53.760
each other up while these layoffs are
happening, because it's just it's just like

918
01:10:53.960 --> 01:10:59.600
a natural thing that happens when companies
get acquired, and it just isn't It

919
01:10:59.680 --> 01:11:03.399
just is, And it's just something
that they want to make like shareholders feel

920
01:11:03.439 --> 01:11:06.920
like the company is worth more now
that they've made this big purchase. And

921
01:11:06.960 --> 01:11:11.920
we do need just more small studios
that are employing people who are really passionate

922
01:11:12.039 --> 01:11:15.600
about the games industry, because you
have these people who are being held hostage

923
01:11:15.880 --> 01:11:20.840
by their love for video games.
Yeah, and it's sad to take advantage

924
01:11:20.840 --> 01:11:26.159
of people simply because they want to
do something that they care about. Like

925
01:11:26.239 --> 01:11:30.680
I personally think that QA testing is
an art in itself, right, being

926
01:11:30.720 --> 01:11:33.159
able to oh my god, yeah, learn how to exploit a game or

927
01:11:33.199 --> 01:11:38.760
like test for specific things in a
game. And QA testers are treated like

928
01:11:38.920 --> 01:11:45.960
less than dirt. Right, So
as an industry crazy we need to acknowledge

929
01:11:45.960 --> 01:11:49.479
the ugly side of it, and
you know, definitely do some stuff about

930
01:11:49.479 --> 01:11:54.640
it. And you know, there's
a certain onus as us working games media

931
01:11:54.640 --> 01:11:57.359
to highlight that, and I feel
like we do highlight that, but yes,

932
01:11:58.399 --> 01:12:03.720
try, it just gets exhausting after
a certain while of Like, man,

933
01:12:04.399 --> 01:12:08.760
I had friends at that company.
They don't work there anymore, and

934
01:12:09.600 --> 01:12:15.119
they joined the ever growing talent pool
that is trying to search for something the

935
01:12:15.159 --> 01:12:21.359
game awards though they're going up.
Let's talk about let's breeze through these categories.

936
01:12:21.439 --> 01:12:25.880
Let's let's talk about some snubs.
Let's go from the very bottom of

937
01:12:25.920 --> 01:12:31.279
what I have listed here best performance
we have Ben Starr for Final Fantasy sixteen,

938
01:12:31.560 --> 01:12:38.960
Cameron moyn, Star Wars, Jedi
Survivor, Idris Elba Cyberpunk, Melanie

939
01:12:39.039 --> 01:12:43.840
Lie Bird, Allen Wake two,
Neil Neil Nuban, balders Gate three,

940
01:12:43.840 --> 01:12:47.640
and Uri Lowenthal and Marvel Spider Man
two. Hey, Hey, I'm gonna

941
01:12:47.640 --> 01:12:51.520
say this because I really like the
guy. I think Ben Starr deserves this.

942
01:12:53.960 --> 01:12:56.760
Yeah, I think. I think
I think he's got it. I

943
01:12:56.880 --> 01:13:00.479
love Don't don't get me wrong.
I love Neil Newban's work in bald Gate.

944
01:13:00.600 --> 01:13:02.520
I am currently doing a darkerge run
and it is so much easier to

945
01:13:02.640 --> 01:13:06.359
romance the Storian when you're being just
straight up evil, and he is so

946
01:13:06.479 --> 01:13:11.039
good in it. But I do
think Ben Starr really, Ben Star's performance

947
01:13:11.079 --> 01:13:16.399
really carries Final Fantasy sixteen. And
I no offense to I to idrisse alba

948
01:13:16.479 --> 01:13:21.359
I don't know why he's on this
list. Well, like, I think

949
01:13:21.399 --> 01:13:26.039
he gets the celebrity plug right,
he gets the celerity celebrity rub where it's

950
01:13:26.039 --> 01:13:31.359
like, oh, this is Hollywood
actor taking time out of his busy Hollywood

951
01:13:31.399 --> 01:13:40.800
schedule. He I loved Cyberpunk twenty
seventy seventh Phantom Liberty, please, don't

952
01:13:40.800 --> 01:13:45.319
get me wrong, But the reason
I loved it was not Idris Elva's standout

953
01:13:45.399 --> 01:13:49.079
performance. If I were to ask
you off the top of your head,

954
01:13:49.079 --> 01:13:54.319
Bailey, what accent does he have
in that game? Could could not fucking

955
01:13:54.359 --> 01:13:58.199
tell you. I literally, like
in the Honest Game trailer for it did

956
01:13:58.239 --> 01:14:00.840
a whole forty five second detour like, wow, is this what where is

957
01:14:00.840 --> 01:14:06.319
this man supposed to be from?
It's crazy to me the future. He

958
01:14:06.479 --> 01:14:10.920
sounds like he's kind of British,
but like I've heard him in interviews and

959
01:14:10.960 --> 01:14:14.439
he sounds way more British than that. But he definitely doesn't sound American.

960
01:14:14.479 --> 01:14:16.760
But I've heard him in the wire
he can sound more American than that.

961
01:14:16.880 --> 01:14:21.039
What's he doing? I think he
has a very interesting voice as it is,

962
01:14:21.159 --> 01:14:27.039
you know, he just has like
a very sort of like almost like

963
01:14:27.079 --> 01:14:29.520
the the you know when people say
like, oh, your voice is your

964
01:14:29.560 --> 01:14:33.279
instrument, Like there's something very specific
to Idris Elba that defines that kind of

965
01:14:33.319 --> 01:14:39.000
like trope, I think, But
yeah, I don't know this. Again,

966
01:14:39.039 --> 01:14:42.960
he's nominated because he's Adress Elba,
and I don't believe he will win

967
01:14:43.079 --> 01:14:45.239
if he does, and okay,
yeah, I don't think he'll win.

968
01:14:45.720 --> 01:14:50.239
Honestly, I would have liked to
see another woman on this list in lieu

969
01:14:50.359 --> 01:14:57.000
of Idris Elba. I think that, uh, there are if you wanted

970
01:14:57.000 --> 01:15:00.760
to nominate someone from cyberpunk, like, there are other like female characters in

971
01:15:00.800 --> 01:15:04.239
that we turn in excellent performances.
The President and Songbird both are great.

972
01:15:05.439 --> 01:15:11.479
I think another balders Gate Ian like
the woman who voices shadow Heart Coral,

973
01:15:11.640 --> 01:15:15.600
I think ar Harlac or Laisell like
literally and of any of them turn into

974
01:15:15.720 --> 01:15:20.880
stellar performances. Like it just seems
to me like there's one woman on this

975
01:15:20.920 --> 01:15:29.640
list and then and there were a
lot of great games starring women this year,

976
01:15:29.720 --> 01:15:32.800
so I know that there were better
performances that could have been nominated,

977
01:15:32.880 --> 01:15:35.800
and that just stands out to me
as something that's a little bit like,

978
01:15:36.319 --> 01:15:41.039
Okay, interesting that we did that
instead of nominating someone who kind of should

979
01:15:41.119 --> 01:15:44.399
be nominated. But all right,
cool. Yeah. I think the problem

980
01:15:44.479 --> 01:15:51.520
sometimes with the nomination process is that
there's a heavy recency bias when when electing

981
01:15:53.000 --> 01:15:55.399
a lot of these And that's not
an excuse by any means. It's just

982
01:15:55.479 --> 01:15:59.239
like, Okay, there's there are
so many more people and so many more

983
01:15:59.239 --> 01:16:02.600
games to nominate eight Okay we yes, No, I was gonna say,

984
01:16:02.600 --> 01:16:05.119
I think recently, but I mean
I've been I've been feeling that a lot

985
01:16:05.199 --> 01:16:08.760
lately with Alan Wake and how I'm
regarding that game, and I feel like,

986
01:16:09.239 --> 01:16:12.560
oh, I'm with you, buddy, you know, like, uh,

987
01:16:12.600 --> 01:16:16.159
but that said, like, you
know, there has been years where

988
01:16:16.199 --> 01:16:23.279
like a Q one game is able
to you know, withstand right and was

989
01:16:23.439 --> 01:16:27.239
able to persevere through the rest of
the year and still be a dominating force.

990
01:16:27.359 --> 01:16:30.840
And you know, I think we
always knew Alan Wake was going to

991
01:16:30.920 --> 01:16:32.920
be out this year, right,
and when we when you know that first

992
01:16:32.920 --> 01:16:36.800
half of the year was starting to
pop off, I just I think,

993
01:16:36.840 --> 01:16:40.680
I'm you know, I think recency
biases the thing, but I also think

994
01:16:40.720 --> 01:16:45.479
being surprised by an entry is also
a thing where like I expected to fully

995
01:16:45.520 --> 01:16:48.199
regard Alan Wake in the way that
I regarded the first one. I was

996
01:16:48.239 --> 01:16:50.680
like, oh, this is like
creepy, weird, little flashlight game,

997
01:16:50.800 --> 01:16:55.760
and uh, you know whatever.
But then it goes and does what it

998
01:16:55.800 --> 01:16:59.640
does, and it surprises you and
and you know, just goes so above

999
01:16:59.680 --> 01:17:01.640
and beyond what you thought you were
gonna get out of that package. And

1000
01:17:01.640 --> 01:17:04.920
I think that's a very powerful thing. Kind of knew what you're getting with

1001
01:17:05.000 --> 01:17:08.000
Zella. You know you're gonna get
one of the best games ever made,

1002
01:17:08.079 --> 01:17:13.239
right, Yeah, but you didn't
expect that with Alan Mike. Yeah,

1003
01:17:13.319 --> 01:17:15.920
I mean, like you mentioned Jeff, like elden Ring came out in February

1004
01:17:15.920 --> 01:17:21.319
of last year and that fell this
momentum without a doubt. Definitely. Okay,

1005
01:17:21.960 --> 01:17:26.560
let's blaze through these because I feel
like the more contentious categories they want

1006
01:17:26.600 --> 01:17:35.279
to spend some more time chatting about
with y'all. Let's go to best narrative,

1007
01:17:36.000 --> 01:17:41.439
and I feel like this is gonna
be a heavy heavy category because we

1008
01:17:41.479 --> 01:17:45.680
have Alan Wake two, Balder's Gate
three, Cyberpunk twenty seventy seven, Phantom

1009
01:17:45.720 --> 01:17:53.640
Liberty, Final Fantasy sixteen, and
Marvel Spider Man two. That list is

1010
01:17:53.760 --> 01:17:59.840
very top heavy. Like with those
first two nominees. Bailey, I think

1011
01:17:59.840 --> 01:18:02.960
you speak to it the better than
Jeff and I because you've played through bowlers

1012
01:18:03.000 --> 01:18:06.720
Gate three now several times now,
right, Yeah, I really like it's

1013
01:18:06.760 --> 01:18:11.199
the one that I keep going back
to, Like, personally, it's my

1014
01:18:11.239 --> 01:18:13.800
game of the year, and if
it doesn't win, I will be very

1015
01:18:13.800 --> 01:18:24.319
surprised to make arrangements. Okay,
Yeah, I think I think I wouldn't

1016
01:18:24.359 --> 01:18:29.720
necessarily give it best narrative though,
because I mean most narrative. Sure,

1017
01:18:30.479 --> 01:18:35.399
Okay, because objectively more story than
these other games. Because I was curious

1018
01:18:35.720 --> 01:18:42.000
about how you felt on it because
I'm assuming your experience is drastically different than

1019
01:18:42.000 --> 01:18:45.840
what I would ever accomplish, right, especially how you were going to create

1020
01:18:45.920 --> 01:18:53.199
your Bailey versus my block les Block. I yeah, no, I mean

1021
01:18:53.399 --> 01:18:57.520
I've I've experienced it multiple ways.
I've played it through as like a good

1022
01:18:57.680 --> 01:19:00.960
character. Now I'm playing it through
as like an evil care character, and

1023
01:19:00.760 --> 01:19:05.760
they're all so hot and it's so
fun, and I just this is not

1024
01:19:05.840 --> 01:19:15.079
the award I would give this game
personally. I think I honestly don't know

1025
01:19:15.520 --> 01:19:18.720
which of these games I would give
the award too. Maybe Alan Wick,

1026
01:19:19.600 --> 01:19:24.600
maybe Final Fantasy and sort of like
here you go have this kind of way.

1027
01:19:25.640 --> 01:19:30.399
I just it's none of these to
me, Like, I don't really

1028
01:19:30.399 --> 01:19:35.800
know how to say this, Like
Cyberpunk Phantom Liberty's narrative was great because I

1029
01:19:35.920 --> 01:19:40.319
enjoyed Escape from New York, and
Alan wik Two's narrative is great because I

1030
01:19:40.359 --> 01:19:45.600
really love that one Goosebumps book.
And Marvel Spider Man narrative is great because

1031
01:19:45.920 --> 01:19:51.520
I love that Grandpa, Love that
Grandpa. None of these are really hitting

1032
01:19:51.560 --> 01:19:56.840
for me as like a Best Narrative
nominee. Honestly, sure, I think,

1033
01:19:57.199 --> 01:20:00.399
uh, you know, For me, I'm always like a lot of

1034
01:20:00.399 --> 01:20:03.319
games tell stories the same way,
right, and they tell stories through cut

1035
01:20:03.359 --> 01:20:10.800
scenes or you know, very sort
of like uh audio. Well, yeah,

1036
01:20:10.960 --> 01:20:15.279
like you know a lot of these
narrative environmental story storytelling tropes that we've

1037
01:20:15.319 --> 01:20:20.479
we've seen and done, and you
know, I think like Alan Wick definitely

1038
01:20:20.760 --> 01:20:27.640
has a alternative approach at that.
You know, like they are at the

1039
01:20:27.720 --> 01:20:30.279
end of the day, they are
just like full motion video cut scenes.

1040
01:20:30.760 --> 01:20:39.560
But I think there's enough, there's
enough sort of like freshness there that for

1041
01:20:39.680 --> 01:20:43.359
me, it kind of ekes it
out just because of the just the sort

1042
01:20:43.399 --> 01:20:45.880
of like element elemental way that it
does that kind of stuff, right,

1043
01:20:46.000 --> 01:20:50.880
Like again I and again, like
I also go back and I'm like,

1044
01:20:51.119 --> 01:20:54.720
what is this? What does this
category even mean? Right? Like what

1045
01:20:54.800 --> 01:20:57.479
is the best narrative? Like what
is that? What is that? Right?

1046
01:20:57.640 --> 01:21:00.000
Yeah? And for me, if
like we're if you, if we're

1047
01:21:00.079 --> 01:21:05.279
rewarding the the technicality of like how
a narrative is disseminated, right, then

1048
01:21:05.279 --> 01:21:11.279
for me, I'm like, oh, I think Alan Wake two's story for

1049
01:21:11.399 --> 01:21:19.439
me is the most sort of like
digestible and uh satisfactory kind of like presentation

1050
01:21:20.000 --> 01:21:24.279
of its story in a way where
I'm like, I fucking know what's going

1051
01:21:24.319 --> 01:21:29.520
on. I'm I'm intrigued, I'm
drawn, I'm I'm engaged, I'm captured,

1052
01:21:30.399 --> 01:21:33.199
and like, yeah, Like,
if that's what we're just grading this

1053
01:21:33.319 --> 01:21:38.000
on, then for me, it's
it seems like it would take it for

1054
01:21:38.119 --> 01:21:43.680
for that category. I don't want
to spoil too much of my my Game

1055
01:21:43.720 --> 01:21:49.680
of the Year arguments that I've been
fucked. I feel like, no,

1056
01:21:49.680 --> 01:21:54.439
no, no, no, Like
the real game awards are Game of the

1057
01:21:54.520 --> 01:22:02.039
Year awards. I know that the
story in Final Fantasy sixteen is really polarizing

1058
01:22:02.039 --> 01:22:05.560
for a lot of folks. They
go they swing both I either way of

1059
01:22:05.600 --> 01:22:10.640
like I really enjoy this, I
really like this, or this is I

1060
01:22:11.000 --> 01:22:15.399
No, not for me. Does
polarizing mean sleep inducing? Yeah, you

1061
01:22:15.439 --> 01:22:21.000
could be sleepy. You could be
either awake or sleep Okay. I told

1062
01:22:21.039 --> 01:22:29.119
this to Lex Alexi, friend of
the site. I think Final Fantasy sixteen

1063
01:22:30.399 --> 01:22:33.439
is the better Kingdom Hearts story,
and I'll just let it sit there.

1064
01:22:33.720 --> 01:22:36.840
I'll just let everyone marinate on that
and then we'll revisit this in a couple

1065
01:22:38.119 --> 01:22:42.640
couple of days. Press and al
three and our three to accept the truth.

1066
01:22:45.399 --> 01:22:48.520
Uh, but best game Direction.
Let's skip over that because I have

1067
01:22:48.520 --> 01:22:51.600
no fucking clue what they mean by
that either. And let's go to the

1068
01:22:51.640 --> 01:22:58.039
Game of the Year. But we
voted, we voted, we voted everything

1069
01:22:58.119 --> 01:23:00.319
we voted, we voted. I
didn't. I'm allowed to have an opinion.

1070
01:23:01.199 --> 01:23:05.279
I think game direction goes to Zelda. Okay, yeah, yeah,

1071
01:23:05.399 --> 01:23:09.720
yeah, yeah, I'm with you, a Game of the Year game and

1072
01:23:09.760 --> 01:23:15.680
needs to win something. Game of
the Year, Alan Wake two, Balder's

1073
01:23:15.720 --> 01:23:19.520
Gate three, Marvel Spider Man two, Resident Evil four, Super Mario Brothers,

1074
01:23:19.560 --> 01:23:24.159
Wonder, Legend of Zelda, Tears
of the Kingdom. Now, are

1075
01:23:24.159 --> 01:23:28.199
there any snubs that you think that
should have made it onto here? Any

1076
01:23:28.199 --> 01:23:33.039
surprises? No? I know there
there's one game that didn't get any nominations

1077
01:23:33.039 --> 01:23:35.920
in any category that a lot of
people are mad about on the internet,

1078
01:23:35.920 --> 01:23:42.960
and they suck it Agwarts. Oh
okay, yeah, they can suck it

1079
01:23:44.239 --> 01:23:46.760
that one. Yeah. Honestly,
it's not a good game. Sorry,

1080
01:23:46.920 --> 01:23:51.039
it's It's not only a problematic IP, it's just straight up not a good

1081
01:23:51.079 --> 01:23:55.159
game. I played the they had
like a free like check it out.

1082
01:23:55.199 --> 01:23:58.920
We swear it's not that bad just
because a big it makes it and like

1083
01:23:59.039 --> 01:24:00.359
I was like, Okay, it's
she's not gonna get any money. I'm

1084
01:24:00.359 --> 01:24:02.760
just gonna check it out to see, like, is this actually a good

1085
01:24:02.800 --> 01:24:05.600
game. It's not. It's boring
as hell. It sucks. It's a

1086
01:24:05.640 --> 01:24:09.159
bad game. I'm glad it did
not get nominated. It did not deserve

1087
01:24:09.159 --> 01:24:15.399
a nomination. I do feel bad
for those depths, though, I feel

1088
01:24:15.399 --> 01:24:17.439
bad for a lot of devs in
this industry for a wide variety of reasons.

1089
01:24:17.520 --> 01:24:23.720
Chan fair enough, fair enough.
Yeah, it's especially no, you

1090
01:24:23.760 --> 01:24:27.000
know what, fuck jk Row,
I've said that. Yeah, that's not

1091
01:24:27.079 --> 01:24:30.560
a controversial take. I thought you
were going to say that Armored Corps six

1092
01:24:30.640 --> 01:24:33.760
got snubbed. Yes, I think
that is true. I do think like

1093
01:24:34.640 --> 01:24:40.119
as a bubble game, it probably
did. Also. I mean, look,

1094
01:24:40.119 --> 01:24:42.920
there's no way to know how many
games were nominated last year, but

1095
01:24:42.960 --> 01:24:46.960
I'm curious how many were for this
category. Right, This category has six

1096
01:24:47.000 --> 01:24:50.279
nominees. I think it's the only
one with six if I'm oh, no,

1097
01:24:50.319 --> 01:24:54.920
I'm wrong. Best Performance has six
as well. But it seems like

1098
01:24:54.920 --> 01:24:58.199
there's like a bit of a wiggle
room there, right, So in the

1099
01:24:58.239 --> 01:25:03.680
way that you know, other award
shows will sort of like inflate the number

1100
01:25:03.720 --> 01:25:11.239
of nominees for a certain best of
a thing category, like all right,

1101
01:25:11.359 --> 01:25:15.359
throw a couple of these other games
of bone Man, Like yeah, you

1102
01:25:15.399 --> 01:25:17.920
know, also that would really help
us out because then more devs are in

1103
01:25:18.039 --> 01:25:19.920
LA and we can have them all
the time mom to night. That'd be

1104
01:25:19.960 --> 01:25:27.079
sick. That'd be sick. Do
that? Please? Come on? Yeah,

1105
01:25:27.279 --> 01:25:30.119
Armored Core six is the one I'm
surprised at. I thought that would

1106
01:25:30.119 --> 01:25:33.439
have taken ARI four's spot. I
guess. Also Final Fantasy sixteen. I

1107
01:25:33.520 --> 01:25:38.640
know that the like I mentioned,
people feel some type of way about it,

1108
01:25:38.880 --> 01:25:42.399
but I feel like it had a
lot of momentum behind it. Also,

1109
01:25:42.479 --> 01:25:45.920
surprise Phantom Liberty didn't make it based
off of how much Phantom Liberty popped

1110
01:25:46.000 --> 01:25:49.640
up in all these other categories.
I think that's a case of people just

1111
01:25:49.720 --> 01:25:55.279
like not feeling comfortable nominating it because
of like the weird gray area of like

1112
01:25:55.520 --> 01:25:58.960
kind is this a DLC or is
this you know? Yeah, I think

1113
01:25:59.000 --> 01:26:00.359
that's what that guy caught up up. And but no, I really do

1114
01:26:00.439 --> 01:26:05.199
think like nominating ten games is fair
play. You're giving a nod, you're

1115
01:26:05.239 --> 01:26:10.199
giving a tip of the hat,
you know, Uh, you're you're doing

1116
01:26:10.439 --> 01:26:13.239
that thing, which, like,
you know, I think that's fine.

1117
01:26:13.520 --> 01:26:15.199
I don't know how many. You
know, it would probably spread the voting

1118
01:26:15.199 --> 01:26:18.640
out a little bit, so you
maybe wouldn't have as conclusive as a voting

1119
01:26:19.039 --> 01:26:23.600
tally as you would with the only
six nominees. But I don't know,

1120
01:26:24.000 --> 01:26:28.039
go for it. Yeah, it's
so true, it's all made up.

1121
01:26:28.159 --> 01:26:30.840
But I do resident evil force presence
on here. That did surprise me.

1122
01:26:31.039 --> 01:26:35.880
Super Mario Brothers Wonder. If we're
gonna do a family game, I'd rather

1123
01:26:35.960 --> 01:26:42.920
it be Pickman. Honestly, I
enjoyed. I enjoyed Super Mario Brothers Wonder,

1124
01:26:42.960 --> 01:26:46.880
But I do think Hickman feels like
it should be here. Yeah,

1125
01:26:46.920 --> 01:26:50.279
I know Grub agrees wherever he is. He just sat straight up like someone

1126
01:26:50.319 --> 01:26:53.920
said something that I agree with,
and I know I know that, But

1127
01:26:54.800 --> 01:26:57.399
I do think it doesn't matter because
I think Balder'sgate is going to win.

1128
01:26:58.119 --> 01:27:00.840
Mmmm, okay, so I don't
think it will. Let's let's do percentages

1129
01:27:00.880 --> 01:27:03.880
on that, Bailey. What do
you think is the over under? No,

1130
01:27:03.880 --> 01:27:09.319
No, it's not an over under, it's an odds You do,

1131
01:27:09.399 --> 01:27:12.399
like, what's it going off at? So? I think, I mean

1132
01:27:12.479 --> 01:27:15.199
so so for for if we're designing
odds for this, everything has to be

1133
01:27:15.359 --> 01:27:19.039
like in the plus right, because
okay, this is too much more math.

1134
01:27:19.079 --> 01:27:21.640
Back, I'm sorry, see exactly, this is so much math You've

1135
01:27:21.680 --> 01:27:24.479
just asked for it. So what, okay, how about this? What

1136
01:27:24.520 --> 01:27:30.640
do we think the obvious, like
the most likely winner would be. There's

1137
01:27:30.640 --> 01:27:32.159
probably two. I think it's going
to be either Zelda or Allan Wake.

1138
01:27:33.079 --> 01:27:39.479
So I love I love Alan Wake
two and I think Ellen Wake two has

1139
01:27:39.520 --> 01:27:42.640
now gone down as one of my
favorite games of all time. Also,

1140
01:27:42.520 --> 01:27:46.680
who knew twenty twenty three would be
like honest to God, deliver on that.

1141
01:27:47.720 --> 01:27:53.680
I think it's between Balder's Gate and
Tiers of the Kingdom. Okay,

1142
01:27:54.720 --> 01:27:59.319
and so I think Tiers of the
Kingdom wins. To me, Tears of

1143
01:27:59.319 --> 01:28:01.840
the Kingdom is the right, is
the favorite? Right? Yeah? So

1144
01:28:01.920 --> 01:28:04.760
like that one has the lowest odds, right, So you say, like,

1145
01:28:04.880 --> 01:28:10.520
oh, you know you you you
you don't you would get better than

1146
01:28:10.560 --> 01:28:12.840
even money back, right, Because
that's if we're doing odds, it's a

1147
01:28:12.920 --> 01:28:16.199
it's a betting mechanic, right.
So I think like for Legend of Zelda,

1148
01:28:16.239 --> 01:28:21.680
it's probably like a plus four hundred
plus two hundred two fifty something like

1149
01:28:21.720 --> 01:28:28.800
that, right, Okay, I
think that in a different year, legend

1150
01:28:28.800 --> 01:28:30.039
of Zelda Tears of the Kingdom would
be a slam duck. And you know

1151
01:28:30.119 --> 01:28:35.000
me, I loved Tiers of the
Kingdom. But Balder's Gate was a cultural

1152
01:28:35.119 --> 01:28:40.079
moment much in the way that elden
Ring was. I think that's what takes

1153
01:28:40.119 --> 01:28:45.039
it, the fact that people just
wouldn't stop talking about it. It's there's

1154
01:28:45.079 --> 01:28:50.720
so much of it, it's so
good people. It occupied the cultural like

1155
01:28:50.920 --> 01:28:56.960
space for such a long time,
and I feel like that's what's going to

1156
01:28:56.960 --> 01:29:00.479
push it over the edge. And
I and again loved Tears of the Kingdom.

1157
01:29:00.520 --> 01:29:04.119
Please do not get me wrong.
I think boulders Gate takes it.

1158
01:29:05.199 --> 01:29:11.800
I mean, you like totally lucid
point for sure. You know, I

1159
01:29:12.520 --> 01:29:15.880
still think that. I still think
Zelda it does have a bit of like

1160
01:29:17.199 --> 01:29:19.960
some sort of like home field advantage
in a way, do you know what

1161
01:29:20.000 --> 01:29:25.479
I mean? Like kind of I
kind of know what you mean. But

1162
01:29:25.560 --> 01:29:29.840
then Mario Brothers Wonder would also have
that advantage, right, And I feel

1163
01:29:29.840 --> 01:29:32.239
like that is I don't think the
same advantage of Zelda. Sure, Okay,

1164
01:29:32.359 --> 01:29:36.479
Zelda had a moment Zelda had a
season, yeah, you know it

1165
01:29:36.640 --> 01:29:41.439
was, but basically right shaving my
head. So if we're like, if

1166
01:29:41.439 --> 01:29:45.520
we're like playing it all down and
was trying to like really understand uh the

1167
01:29:45.319 --> 01:29:49.039
like what we believe to be like
the percentages of all this, Like maybe

1168
01:29:49.560 --> 01:29:55.640
maybe Zelda's more like a like a
plus one seventy and boulders gets like a

1169
01:29:55.680 --> 01:29:58.439
plus one eighty. You know,
like those are right there, neck and

1170
01:29:58.520 --> 01:30:03.199
neck. You know. I think
I think it comes down to those two,

1171
01:30:03.239 --> 01:30:05.680
and I think whichever one takes Game
of the Year, the other one

1172
01:30:05.680 --> 01:30:11.880
gets best game direction. And that's
what I think. Don't forget who is

1173
01:30:12.000 --> 01:30:15.960
voting in this, Okay, don't
hold me me. That's why I'm pretty

1174
01:30:15.000 --> 01:30:18.800
sure Baldersgate is going to win.
One hundred and fifty chuckle fucks. One

1175
01:30:18.880 --> 01:30:23.520
hundred and fifty chuckle fucks are voting
in this, right, I don't know

1176
01:30:23.520 --> 01:30:27.760
how many people total, but like
it. You know there's that too.

1177
01:30:27.920 --> 01:30:32.800
You gotta leave voting audience. Do
you see this there being even even enough

1178
01:30:32.880 --> 01:30:39.079
of a split where we wind up
having an upset victory because there's enough chuckleheads

1179
01:30:40.680 --> 01:30:45.039
in the room, Like a Mike
Minatti perhaps saying rather it than even for

1180
01:30:45.279 --> 01:30:48.880
remake. Let's go. Oh,
you're talking about our things. Hold on,

1181
01:30:48.920 --> 01:30:54.600
I need to interject here. Somebody
in chat linked in actual betting sheet

1182
01:30:54.800 --> 01:30:57.960
for the Game Awards. I've never
heard of this site. It's called bet

1183
01:30:58.079 --> 01:31:00.680
us. Oh I thought it was
diabetes. I'm sorry. It's crazy.

1184
01:31:00.880 --> 01:31:06.960
This has this has a boulders Gate
three at minus seven hundred. That is

1185
01:31:08.039 --> 01:31:13.239
in stupid. That's not right.
What are we doing? How would that

1186
01:31:13.359 --> 01:31:18.119
be plus two thousand for Spider Man
and Mario Brothers Wonder But that to me?

1187
01:31:18.359 --> 01:31:23.640
But no, but like I think
for like, I know, Wonders

1188
01:31:23.720 --> 01:31:26.159
not winning, right, don't you
like, No, that's not going to

1189
01:31:26.199 --> 01:31:28.520
win. So it could be plus
five thousand. What does it matter?

1190
01:31:28.600 --> 01:31:34.119
Right? Like, that's just some
it's weird. Like all the other categories

1191
01:31:34.199 --> 01:31:40.560
make sense, but mine, like
where are they? I don't know.

1192
01:31:40.840 --> 01:31:44.600
This is wild, it's clear.
What's not winning. It's I mean,

1193
01:31:44.720 --> 01:31:47.119
it'd be crazy if Spider Man two
one resident Evil four is not going to

1194
01:31:47.159 --> 01:31:50.279
take it sober Mario Brothers Wonder even
though it's great, it's not going to

1195
01:31:50.319 --> 01:31:54.359
take it. It's it is going
to come down to the other three.

1196
01:31:54.439 --> 01:32:00.560
And I just I really do think
that that like cultural factor for both is

1197
01:32:00.600 --> 01:32:01.560
what's going to push it over.
Yeah, you could be right, yeah

1198
01:32:01.680 --> 01:32:08.000
right, And I know that,
like it is just an unexpected phenomenon,

1199
01:32:08.319 --> 01:32:12.039
just much in the same way as
elden Ring and elden Ring took it.

1200
01:32:12.039 --> 01:32:15.279
It's it's having a massive moment,
and I feel like part of that,

1201
01:32:15.039 --> 01:32:18.399
not part of that, but like, uh, a contributing factor is like

1202
01:32:18.600 --> 01:32:24.000
with the uptick of D and D
over the last couple of years, and

1203
01:32:24.079 --> 01:32:29.000
how people just love dice now,
huh people love rolling dice in games and

1204
01:32:29.039 --> 01:32:32.880
in real life. Yeah, now
I want to go play craps speaking about

1205
01:32:32.920 --> 01:32:40.039
dice. Okay, uh, final
final answers here, what out of the

1206
01:32:40.039 --> 01:32:44.600
Game Awards nominees list is going to
win Game of the Year? Bailey Myers,

1207
01:32:45.079 --> 01:32:48.680
Wait, what isn't that what we
just said? Definitive answer, definitive

1208
01:32:48.640 --> 01:32:51.439
answer, ol Gate. Okay,
I don't know. Maybe you gotta maybe

1209
01:32:51.439 --> 01:32:55.720
you assuade yourself. I'm feeling like
Alan Wake two. I don't know what

1210
01:32:55.760 --> 01:33:03.239
I'm talking about, man back.
I think Zelda's gonna win. I'm right,

1211
01:33:03.319 --> 01:33:06.319
you buy me a drink. And
if you're right, you buy me

1212
01:33:06.359 --> 01:33:11.560
a drink. Yeah, it's not
gonna be me. It's gonna be fan

1213
01:33:11.600 --> 01:33:14.680
in paying buying your drinks. I'll
buy you five drinks. It's all good.

1214
01:33:15.079 --> 01:33:18.000
Yeah, I did the math of
that. I think I still come

1215
01:33:18.000 --> 01:33:21.600
out in the red. I think
it all comes down to the Lord of

1216
01:33:21.600 --> 01:33:27.159
the Rings, gullum baby coming in
from the top rope. That's a wrestling

1217
01:33:27.159 --> 01:33:31.039
thing, right, Look at you
wrestling references. I was trying to shore

1218
01:33:31.119 --> 01:33:35.439
up for the weekend, and then
Jan canceled on me. You fucking canceled.

1219
01:33:36.039 --> 01:33:41.760
Chance. God, I'm gonna go
chancel myself after this, Bailey,

1220
01:33:41.800 --> 01:33:43.840
I'm curious, what was your Game
of the Year last year? And then

1221
01:33:43.920 --> 01:33:47.119
we'll get out of here. For
twenty two, let me remember what the

1222
01:33:47.199 --> 01:33:55.520
nominees were. It was. It
was Elden Ring of Here Twine it before

1223
01:33:55.520 --> 01:33:59.840
we knew each other. Look at
this so long ago, so young that

1224
01:34:00.720 --> 01:34:04.560
for the for Jeffrey Keeley's The Game
Awards, it was Elden Ring, a

1225
01:34:04.640 --> 01:34:12.680
Plague Tale, God of War,
Ragnarok, Horizon, Forbidden West, uh

1226
01:34:12.840 --> 01:34:19.479
Stray Stray okay, Xeno Blade Chronicles
three. Hell yeah, let me see.

1227
01:34:19.760 --> 01:34:23.920
I mean, how's Elder Ring not
win that? Right like it did?

1228
01:34:24.039 --> 01:34:30.560
But eldon Ring. Elden Ring was
the correct winner. Is I very

1229
01:34:30.600 --> 01:34:32.800
much enjoyed God of War, Ragnarok
and Horizon Forbidden West. I think those

1230
01:34:32.840 --> 01:34:38.000
were both Cellar games that, unfortunately, for Horizon for Bidden West got fully

1231
01:34:38.000 --> 01:34:44.760
overshadowed by elden Ring releasing what like
a week later, I was rough question

1232
01:34:44.840 --> 01:34:53.920
for the audience here just year nay
Horizon? Yeah yeah, yeah. You

1233
01:34:53.960 --> 01:34:57.279
didn't hear her, she said,
I heard that. I'm just I didn't

1234
01:34:57.319 --> 01:34:59.760
know as a whole where Okay,
all right, I feel like Jane's not

1235
01:34:59.800 --> 01:35:01.199
less litening to me. No.
I think he's judging you, is what

1236
01:35:01.239 --> 01:35:03.319
he's doing. No, no,
no, no, you know this.

1237
01:35:03.319 --> 01:35:10.359
This is the good part of a
friendship having very differing tastes. Fair enjoy.

1238
01:35:11.079 --> 01:35:15.279
I enjoy Horizon. I'm sorry.
I think that's a game. I

1239
01:35:15.279 --> 01:35:18.720
think it's I think it's fucking clean. I think it plays really well.

1240
01:35:18.880 --> 01:35:24.319
I love destroying a tank with an
arrow. That's fun. I'm also very

1241
01:35:24.359 --> 01:35:28.159
good at it. Maybe your problem
is you're not good at it. For

1242
01:35:28.199 --> 01:35:30.760
you, you're good at games.
I'm bad at games. You like Horizon.

1243
01:35:30.880 --> 01:35:36.399
I don't like Horizon. You have
an insatiable blood lust when it comes

1244
01:35:36.399 --> 01:35:42.399
to multiplayer games. I'm just dog
shit. Listen, listen. The Horizon

1245
01:35:42.479 --> 01:35:45.640
DLC that no one's fucking talking about
burning shores was great. You get to

1246
01:35:45.680 --> 01:35:49.359
explore the ruins of your own city. Jan Don't you want to explore post

1247
01:35:49.359 --> 01:35:56.319
apocalyptic San Francisco. It's got better
traffic than usual. That's neat. I

1248
01:35:56.399 --> 01:36:01.920
do that every day at someone to
make a post apocalyptic content about New York.

1249
01:36:02.279 --> 01:36:06.960
Yes, not enough of that or
Los Angeles. Huh god love that?

1250
01:36:08.680 --> 01:36:10.560
All right? All right? Oh, Bailey, what was what was

1251
01:36:10.600 --> 01:36:15.199
twenty twenty two Game of the Year
for you? My for my personal you're

1252
01:36:15.239 --> 01:36:20.640
personal. I actually think I would
go see I agree with them that elden

1253
01:36:20.720 --> 01:36:26.399
Ring was the right choice, but
I think I would go Bailey's heart.

1254
01:36:26.720 --> 01:36:29.840
I think i'd go go Out of
War Ragnarok. Actually, that's fair.

1255
01:36:30.000 --> 01:36:32.399
That's my like one a for sure
of last year. I don't remember.

1256
01:36:32.399 --> 01:36:36.760
I loved that game. And that
was a good narrative. That is the

1257
01:36:36.880 --> 01:36:40.399
best narrative. Like, I'm glad
that he did it won it won best

1258
01:36:40.479 --> 01:36:43.680
narrative. Yeah, I'm looking at
that. I'm like, good, yeah,

1259
01:36:43.760 --> 01:36:45.960
man, it was good. That
game brocks. Like I think,

1260
01:36:45.760 --> 01:36:50.439
I think everything just you know,
just paled in comparison. I think elden

1261
01:36:50.520 --> 01:36:59.159
Ring just like was a tidal wave, right, and even Kratos himself was

1262
01:36:59.239 --> 01:37:03.600
defenseless against such a momentous moment in
games. Yeah, you know, there

1263
01:37:03.680 --> 01:37:08.800
was a lot of moments in Ragnarrock
that left me a little teary eyed,

1264
01:37:08.960 --> 01:37:14.119
and I'm like, good man,
great performances, like yeah, really really

1265
01:37:14.159 --> 01:37:17.640
compelling stuff. Yeah, oh god, I'm feeling the chills all over again

1266
01:37:17.680 --> 01:37:21.479
thinking about the story beats at Ragnrock
and how much they hit home a little

1267
01:37:21.479 --> 01:37:27.800
too hard anyway, imagine okay,
and Stray was nominated for Game of the

1268
01:37:27.880 --> 01:37:31.720
Year. To imagine a Stray like
adjacent game right now, Like he would

1269
01:37:31.720 --> 01:37:38.720
even have a shot this year.
This year was heavy, really really heavy,

1270
01:37:38.960 --> 01:37:43.920
really heavy. Yeah, And like
the unfortunate part about best narrative is

1271
01:37:43.920 --> 01:37:46.840
that it tends to go to like
and it is here all the trip A

1272
01:37:46.960 --> 01:37:53.359
titles, right. Yeah, there's
like medium tier games that have hit me

1273
01:37:53.800 --> 01:37:58.319
from a narrative perspective right in the
guts, right in the right in the

1274
01:37:59.279 --> 01:38:03.279
emotional gu that did not see the
light of day. But you know that's

1275
01:38:03.319 --> 01:38:11.239
a different not necessarily a problem,
but like an issue within the nomination processes.

1276
01:38:12.359 --> 01:38:17.239
But that has been it for this
week's episode of the BombCast, Revengeance.

1277
01:38:19.079 --> 01:38:23.239
I've been your host, Janet Choa. He was tam he had to

1278
01:38:23.319 --> 01:38:26.880
leave. He only allotted in an
hour because I had said at the very

1279
01:38:26.880 --> 01:38:30.960
beginning of this that we're only gonna
go tops an hour to ninety minutes,

1280
01:38:30.079 --> 01:38:33.840
and we're thirteen minutes over that budget. But hey, whatever, we had

1281
01:38:33.840 --> 01:38:38.000
a lot to talk about, had
a lot to talk about, and I

1282
01:38:38.079 --> 01:38:42.720
love talking about things with my good
friend Bailey Myers. I love to be

1283
01:38:42.800 --> 01:38:45.520
here, love that you're here.
And also the drop shadow of the crew

1284
01:38:45.520 --> 01:38:50.239
from the top rope Jeff Beckler,
of course, of pleasure. Of course,

1285
01:38:50.840 --> 01:38:55.800
if you were listening to the archive
on a Friday, stay tuned to

1286
01:38:55.880 --> 01:39:01.000
the website this whole weekend because the
Giant Bomb Midwest Crew is popping off with

1287
01:39:01.079 --> 01:39:06.439
Mike Manatti, Jeff Grubb, the
wind Bag, and Dan Reikert all streaming

1288
01:39:06.479 --> 01:39:11.199
together to raise money for the kids, and then Jeff Bakalar raising money for

1289
01:39:11.239 --> 01:39:15.520
the kids too this weekend, playing
some pinball on Sunday, tapping next week

1290
01:39:16.159 --> 01:39:20.760
week yep, yep, taking out
all the cameras, all the cameras.

1291
01:39:20.760 --> 01:39:25.000
Next week's a short week, so
maybe not an episode of BCR then.

1292
01:39:25.520 --> 01:39:28.800
But believe me, folks, we
got a lot of pods in the bank

1293
01:39:28.920 --> 01:39:33.239
that we got to go record.
And hey, I cannot wait to see

1294
01:39:33.279 --> 01:39:39.119
you in front of a sold out
audience for Giant Bomb Game of the Year

1295
01:39:39.159 --> 01:39:44.520
Live, the Real Game Orgs show
happening in Los Angeles. The whole crew

1296
01:39:44.520 --> 01:39:47.479
will be there. Our special guest
up here, Bailey Myers, will be

1297
01:39:47.560 --> 01:39:50.760
there as well as well as Nicki, Grayson, Blessing, Audio, Ya

1298
01:39:50.880 --> 01:39:58.279
Junior, and more more. I've
been Jan, he was Tam, She's

1299
01:39:58.399 --> 01:40:01.439
Bailey, He's been Jeff. And
you go drink some water. Go drink

1300
01:40:01.520 --> 01:40:04.920
some water and let's get let's live
it up. Let's live it up this

1301
01:40:05.039 --> 01:40:09.960
weekend. I need to go become
best friends with pit Bull. I'll see

1302
01:40:10.000 --> 01:40:28.319
you next week for another episode of
the Giant BombCast. Just live it up.

1303
01:40:29.800 --> 01:40:33.279
Have either of you seen pit Bulls
toasted one viral? No? Wow,

1304
01:40:33.479 --> 01:40:35.399
my god? All right, we're
gonna watch this after this. Okay,

1305
01:40:35.399 --> 01:40:41.720
hold on, okay, bye,
Oh I didn't fade the black