1 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:21,079 Welcome to episode nine of Get Out Alive. I am your host and resident 2 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:25,440 animal expert, Ashley, and I am your other host, Nick. I 3 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:29,519 didn't think of anything funny to say here. I always blindside you every time, 4 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,159 you really do. I never expect it, but we do it every 5 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,200 single time. Yeah. So anyways, this is get Out a live a 6 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,439 podcast where we talk about animal attacks every week and then talk about how to 7 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:44,479 avoid those animal attacks if possible. And today, I'm sure as a species 8 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:49,079 no one was expecting, including myself. Yeah. I made that three of 9 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,359 us, you know, you, me and everyone else in the world. 10 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:58,079 Yeah. So the reason the reason we're doing this episode is because at is 11 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:03,200 Katie Outside from Twitter messaged me and said, have you heard of this man 12 00:01:03,239 --> 00:01:07,400 who was killed by a beaver, to which I said, no, but 13 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:14,159 tell me everything. So I promised her we would do this episode next after 14 00:01:14,239 --> 00:01:19,200 Hippos, and here we are, and it is two weeks after our hippo 15 00:01:19,239 --> 00:01:23,120 episode. Because the more I looked at a calendar, the more I realized 16 00:01:23,159 --> 00:01:27,640 it was not reasonable for us to put out episodes while I was in Yellowstone 17 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:32,840 slash whatever for ten days. So the people have been on the edge of 18 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,519 their seats waiting for this episode to come out, and it's beavers, and 19 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:42,159 it's beavers. Yeah, it's beavers for better or worse. And then the 20 00:01:42,239 --> 00:01:48,040 episode that'll come out next Honestly, I can't say for certain, so I'm 21 00:01:48,079 --> 00:01:52,000 not even gonna promise that. So sometime around the September probably Yeah. Well, 22 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,840 I don't know what species will be doing either whatever. Yeah, well, 23 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:57,200 we'll keep them, keep on the edge of their seats, keep them 24 00:01:57,239 --> 00:02:02,120 on the toes. Yeah. Well, today we have a few stories to 25 00:02:02,159 --> 00:02:07,319 go through, and I'll save the story that Katie sent me as the last 26 00:02:07,319 --> 00:02:10,080 story we're going to talk about. But you know what, let's just get 27 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:14,039 into it. Let's do it. I'm not going to preface anything. We're 28 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,639 just gonna go read beaver attack stories like what. We don't want to hear 29 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:20,280 any bullshit. Just get ready into it. No, you know what, 30 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,960 Nick, what's a beaver? What is a beaver? It is a little 31 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:27,319 furry creature that it's wood and has a big old tail that it uses to 32 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:32,319 slap water. Uh. Yeah, I guess that's nailed it. Yeah, 33 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:37,120 that's pretty good way to put it. So they're the second largest rodent in 34 00:02:37,159 --> 00:02:42,280 the world and they can be. They can be up to sixty five pounds. 35 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:49,719 Yeah, yeah, they're not exactly little. But how big is a 36 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:54,960 kapy bara? Oh god, I would say, like over hundred much does 37 00:02:55,039 --> 00:02:59,879 a cat? I how much does a kapubera cost? Why was that for 38 00:03:00,759 --> 00:03:05,280 seventy five holy shit, seventy seven to one hundred and fifty pounds? Jesus, 39 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,080 I really thought it was one hundred and I was like, no, 40 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:08,479 that sounds too big. But yeah, I mean we would have been right. 41 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,680 Yeah, it's nice in the middle, but yeah, so much larger. 42 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,479 And they're the largest rodent that we have in North America. Do you 43 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:20,400 know the second largest oohugh, I don't. I do even know beaver was 44 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:27,319 a rodent. So this is gonna be part fun. Let's go with a 45 00:03:27,479 --> 00:03:35,639 wood chuck porcupine? Ah, fuck me, a little prickly bastards. I 46 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,319 mean, I feel like it's hard to know, Like, if you're not 47 00:03:39,639 --> 00:03:43,960 familiar with animals and how they're classified whatever, it's hard to look at a 48 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,360 porcupine a beaver and be like, oh, those are the same family, 49 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,639 you know, are a fucking rat and a beaver? Like would never Yeah, 50 00:03:50,719 --> 00:03:54,520 imagine a squirrel and a porcupine. Yeah, no, no, but 51 00:03:54,599 --> 00:04:00,159 yeah, so beavers, like all other rodents, have constantly growing teeth. 52 00:04:00,199 --> 00:04:02,439 So if you've ever seen a beaver's teeth, and if you haven't looked them 53 00:04:02,479 --> 00:04:06,199 up, they're kind of grody looking. But so they're front teeth that they 54 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:11,360 use for gnawing and whatnot. The ones that are growing, they're coated in 55 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:15,000 this. I think it's like an iron substance, and that's what makes them 56 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:21,319 orange. It's the same with porcupines. So to be bit by one is 57 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:26,199 real bad, not only because they can carry a bunch of nasty bacteria and 58 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,959 whatnot, but like, those teeth are nasty. I mean, they're also 59 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,959 like chewing trees all the time. I'd imagine they have pretty powerful jaws and 60 00:04:34,079 --> 00:04:38,360 sharp teeth. Yeah, if you've ever seen a beaver skull, it is 61 00:04:38,879 --> 00:04:43,800 huge, very impressive. So hey, good for them. Keep that in 62 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:48,680 mind for these stories. So let's get started with a beaver attack that occurred 63 00:04:48,759 --> 00:04:55,240 in twenty twelve, and right off the bat, we're talking about fifty one 64 00:04:55,319 --> 00:05:02,040 year old normand Brosseau Nice nailed it. Uh, maybe that could be wrong, 65 00:05:02,079 --> 00:05:04,600 And if you're listening, Norman, I apologize, but I think you're 66 00:05:04,639 --> 00:05:09,639 real cool. And let's get into Norman's story. So spoiler, Norman survives 67 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:15,160 apparently, Thanks for that, oh man, spoiler for everyone. Hey, 68 00:05:15,199 --> 00:05:18,199 ghosts can be listening. You don't know, Norman. I'm glad you're around, 69 00:05:18,199 --> 00:05:23,759 Bud. Thanks for being a listener. Yeah. So Norman was leading 70 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:28,079 a boy scout troop in the Delaware River, just like on a swimming trip 71 00:05:28,079 --> 00:05:31,800 in eastern Pennsylvania in August second, twenty twelve. So they're just floating down 72 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,040 this river with like little pool noodles, just kind of coasting, you know 73 00:05:35,079 --> 00:05:39,240 what I mean, chill, I like it, Yeah, just hanging out. 74 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:46,079 And what he thought was a fish, a giant carp specifically, swam 75 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,120 through his legs. What he no, No, don't tell me what the 76 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:55,279 something's about to happen between his legs with a beaver kind of So, no, 77 00:05:56,319 --> 00:06:00,000 not a giant carp. It was a beaver that swam through his legs. 78 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:06,560 Eggs, don't tell me it attached itself to his chest. Oh well, 79 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:11,279 that's a lot of hype for o them. You're the one who hyped 80 00:06:11,319 --> 00:06:15,079 it, are you sorry? Coming between his legs? Like, what else 81 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:16,720 are we gonna think? Hey, that was the beaver's fault, not mine. 82 00:06:16,759 --> 00:06:23,519 So anyways, the beaver attaches itself to his chest and he managed to 83 00:06:23,519 --> 00:06:26,480 throw it off of him, but it very quickly returned and bit him on 84 00:06:26,519 --> 00:06:31,079 the leg, the button, the arms, hands, and torso what the 85 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,720 fuck is wrong with beaver? Before he managed to get a hold of its 86 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:41,560 mouth and like close it and keep it closed. So what the hell I 87 00:06:41,639 --> 00:06:45,959 know? So we called the boys for help, all of whom originally were 88 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,160 like Norman, like what are you talking about? Because he was like, 89 00:06:48,199 --> 00:06:53,879 ah, help and they were like beaver, yeah, and they're like, 90 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:58,240 we're in a river in Pennsylvania, there's nothing. And turns out it was 91 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:03,000 a forty five pound beaver. So he swam to the shore and as he 92 00:07:03,079 --> 00:07:06,360 approached, and obviously the boys are helping him along because he was like beaten 93 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,439 up. So as he approached the shore, he threw the beaver onto the 94 00:07:10,439 --> 00:07:14,160 ground while the scouts helped him out, and it was stunned for a moment, 95 00:07:15,079 --> 00:07:18,879 but then quickly recooped and then began attacking the pool noodle. What the 96 00:07:19,199 --> 00:07:24,600 hell was wrong with this thing? Okay, we're not at the end of 97 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,079 the story yet, but so far, what do you think is going on 98 00:07:28,519 --> 00:07:30,759 from what we've learned in the past. I'm gonna say it's rabbit. Good 99 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,800 job. Nick. I'm proud of you too much. I'm becoming an animal 100 00:07:33,879 --> 00:07:40,680 expert slowly, aren't we. All? So this, this story is crazy 101 00:07:40,759 --> 00:07:45,199 because the Scouts stepped into help normand and they were like, we got to 102 00:07:45,279 --> 00:07:48,519 kill this thing. It's not gonna stop. All they had were rocks. 103 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:57,399 So for minutes they were pelting rocks at this beaver trying to kill it. 104 00:07:57,759 --> 00:08:01,160 Oh my god. And fifteen year old boy who was in the troop said 105 00:08:01,319 --> 00:08:07,839 it took a few minutes to die. Quote and yeah, they finally like 106 00:08:07,879 --> 00:08:11,759 they literally stoned it to death. What what a wow? What a boy 107 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,360 Scots troup. Yeah, and it was like ride or die, Like let's 108 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:20,480 go, and like Norman's our guy. You want the smoke, will give 109 00:08:20,519 --> 00:08:26,639 you the smoke. Mess with Norman get stoned. So oh days later it 110 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:33,000 was confirmed that the beaver had rabies, so Norman received twenty raby shots but 111 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:39,840 made a full recovery. So good. Yeah, and you know, obviously 112 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,639 just as like a little thing here, as Nick guessed, it was rabid 113 00:08:43,639 --> 00:08:48,080 because it was attacking pool noodles. Also, these people were floating down the 114 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,159 middle of a river. They weren't near a dam at all, so there 115 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,720 was no reason for the beaver to be territorial. So a beaver attacking you 116 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,639 out of nowhere and also attacking nanimate objects is definitely ill. Yeah. I 117 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:03,559 think I've heard somewhere randomly in my life that beaers are territorial. But this 118 00:09:05,159 --> 00:09:09,480 just does not make sense. Yeah, I mean my whole life, I've 119 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,080 not I haven't seen a lot of beavers in my time, but I've always 120 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,960 been told, like growing up by my parents, Hey, don't go near 121 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,799 beavers. If they slap their tails at you, that means they want you 122 00:09:16,799 --> 00:09:20,080 to get away from them. And that's true. So as long as you 123 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:24,919 respect their space, you're typically fine, unless their rabbits shouldn't get a bit 124 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:33,480 in the chest by a beaver. Yeah. So a month earlier in Virginia, 125 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,879 same year, in Lake Anna, Annabelle, who was eleven years old, 126 00:09:37,159 --> 00:09:41,200 and Alyssa, who was eight years old, were swimming on a Sunday 127 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:48,120 when Alyssa felt a bump on her leg. Shark definitely a shark in a 128 00:09:48,159 --> 00:09:52,200 freshwater lake. Yes, so, initially in a freshwater lake, I thought 129 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:56,480 they go into rivers. I mean like depends on how far I mean rivers 130 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:03,799 considered it different episode, all right, So initially Alyssa thought it was her 131 00:10:03,799 --> 00:10:07,399 cousin playing with her, but because she saw like a dark shape in the 132 00:10:07,399 --> 00:10:09,879 water, so she assumed it was a person. But when she tried to 133 00:10:09,919 --> 00:10:16,000 get out of the water, a beaver bit her in the thigh, which 134 00:10:16,879 --> 00:10:20,240 not a great spot to be bit. No. No, there's a lot 135 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,879 of a lot of blood flowing through there, a lot of stuff going on 136 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:26,200 in there that's important. So yea. Once it detached from Melissa, it 137 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:33,159 circled behind Annabella and bit her on the back of her leg. Lucky for 138 00:10:33,279 --> 00:10:39,720 them. What I just feel like we're hitting a lot of like rabid beaver 139 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:41,519 stories right now. Is that what you think this is? Oh? That 140 00:10:41,639 --> 00:10:46,320 is my guess. Yeah, okay, that's your guys. So their uncle 141 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,440 was nearby and luckily was able to kill the beaver and send it to the 142 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:54,639 state Health department, and it indeed did come back positive for rabies. Boom 143 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,559 you go. So Alyssa received fifteen stitches and Annabella had three wounds above her 144 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:03,440 knee, but both made full recoveries. I I don't want to go back 145 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:09,320 in the water. You're not safe anywhere. Oh please, it's rapid beavers. 146 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:15,120 The odds of you encountering one is so slim, I mean until it 147 00:11:15,159 --> 00:11:18,639 happens, and then the odds are one hundred percent because it happened. Also, 148 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,039 I feel like it's pretty easy to realize you're in an area with beavers 149 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:26,240 because of all of the beaver dams and lodges and mounds and whatnot. So 150 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:31,519 here we are again, Pennsylvania for our next story. Our third socks. 151 00:11:33,919 --> 00:11:37,279 Nick used to you used to live in Pennsylvania, right, No, I 152 00:11:37,279 --> 00:11:39,639 have family in Pennsylvania. Oh okay, Pa. It's very annoying. I 153 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:46,840 hope they listen to it. So twenty eighteen, Adams County, Pennsylvania. 154 00:11:46,159 --> 00:11:50,840 This is another crazy story. So Dan Whirley, I hope I pronounced that 155 00:11:50,919 --> 00:11:54,080 right. Dan and his seven year old daughter Leila, and their dog were 156 00:11:54,159 --> 00:11:56,440 kayaking in a creek near their home. They're in their kayaks and Dan felt 157 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:03,519 something grab onto it. And this gives me hippo flashbacks in my head. 158 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,960 I'm like, I know there's no hippos in Pennsylvania, Ashley, there is 159 00:12:05,039 --> 00:12:09,519 no way it's a hippo. But Initially he thought it was his dog, 160 00:12:09,879 --> 00:12:16,919 but then realized it was quote a big, crazy ass beaver. It's probably 161 00:12:16,919 --> 00:12:20,559 the way I would describe it to Yeah, and this is all from a 162 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:24,600 Facebook post he made after the incident with like pictures of the beaver. So 163 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,720 anyways, he started hitting it with his paddle, but it persisted trying to 164 00:12:28,799 --> 00:12:31,960 get into his kayak, and he has pictures on his Facebook a bit jumping 165 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:37,600 out of the water to bite his oar. What okay, I just I 166 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:41,600 don't get it, he said. After a few minutes, it swam to 167 00:12:41,639 --> 00:12:46,840 the other side of the creek, turned and saw his daughter Leila oh no, 168 00:12:48,639 --> 00:12:52,240 and she was thirty yards from dan oh no, so he started screaming 169 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:56,960 at her to get to the shore. He jumped out of his kayak and 170 00:12:56,120 --> 00:13:00,440 luckily was able to make his way over to her as the beaver was flimbing 171 00:13:01,039 --> 00:13:05,480 onto the back of her kayak. Imagine how horrifying as a seven year old 172 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:09,879 girl. I have a question, yes, do you think it'd be faster 173 00:13:11,039 --> 00:13:13,159 to swim or kayak over there? Well, I mean, if it's a 174 00:13:13,279 --> 00:13:16,840 creak. I feel like if it was, if the water level was low 175 00:13:16,919 --> 00:13:18,919 enough that you could just run I guess, yeah, yeah, I think 176 00:13:18,919 --> 00:13:22,919 that'd be better because you're not like having to use both o. You know 177 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:24,639 what I mean, you can not get you yet a group that Yeah, 178 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,279 sure, I mean clearly it worked out for him. So he was able 179 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:33,440 to get over there and punch the beaver off of the back of the kayak 180 00:13:33,159 --> 00:13:37,320 into the water. Okay, So these all these stories have been in the 181 00:13:37,399 --> 00:13:41,440 past, like ten years. Why are there so many crazy fucking beavers because 182 00:13:41,519 --> 00:13:46,559 Rabi's is a thing? Are they like remembering all those zeros we spent trapping 183 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:50,799 them and they just want payback, Like, oh honey, we will get 184 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,559 to it, don't you. Story all right, So he punches it into 185 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,200 the water, and even after being punched in the head, the beaver still 186 00:13:58,279 --> 00:14:01,840 is lunging it in and it followed him and Layla all the way to the 187 00:14:01,879 --> 00:14:05,879 shore as Dan punched and kicked it and tried to keep it away, and 188 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,000 even when they got to land, the attack did not stop. He said, 189 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,519 for a few minutes he was beating the beaver with rocks and it would 190 00:14:11,519 --> 00:14:16,440 swim away but then come right back. And he said, finally he found 191 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,759 a big stick and hit it on the head five times and Luckily for him 192 00:14:20,799 --> 00:14:26,600 and his daughter, the last hit managed to kill it. These freaking beavers. 193 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:31,159 Luckily for them, though neither of them were bit Okay, are you 194 00:14:31,919 --> 00:14:35,159 wondering where the other member of this story is? I know, he said 195 00:14:35,159 --> 00:14:39,000 another one. Umm, their dog? Oh my god, the dog. 196 00:14:39,039 --> 00:14:45,639 I forgot about the dog. Dan noted that his bloodhound hid in the weeds 197 00:14:45,679 --> 00:14:48,960 the entire time this attack was happening. That's that's a homie right there. 198 00:14:50,759 --> 00:14:52,519 See, he knew things weren't bad yet he was. He was ready to 199 00:14:52,559 --> 00:14:56,919 pounce, you know, for when things got real serious, Like these guys 200 00:14:56,919 --> 00:14:58,720 got this, I gotta let them have one. He was like, ho, 201 00:15:00,759 --> 00:15:05,080 yeah, those bloodhounds. Yeah. So anyways, the beaver did test 202 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:09,799 positive for rabies and it was the first ever reported rabbid beaver in that county. 203 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:13,279 Oh look at that. That's great. It's showing up new places. 204 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:16,759 Yeah, good for them. I mean, it's totally possible. It's been 205 00:15:16,799 --> 00:15:22,039 there before, and there have been rabbid beavers, but they just didn't encounter 206 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,480 people and died before they could pass it, you know what I mean. 207 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:30,919 So mean, beavers are like relatively like solo animals, right, They're not 208 00:15:31,519 --> 00:15:35,279 very social, are they yeah they are. Oh yeah, So what I 209 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:39,919 meant to say is beavers are extremely social. Right, So, like I 210 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,759 was gonna ask, how does a beaver even get rabies because it's eating fish 211 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:48,039 or in like shit off the bottom of the river, isn't it. So 212 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:52,720 they eat like grasses, like aquatic grasses, the fish or anything. But 213 00:15:52,799 --> 00:15:56,399 that could I guess that's not something we really address in the rabies episode either. 214 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:00,440 But you don't have to be a social animal to get rabies. It 215 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:06,879 could just be a chance encounter. So for example, a mink could get 216 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,720 rabies and swim out and bite a beaver. You know what mink is, 217 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,759 Oh yeah, a little tiny like ferret type thing. Uh yeah, they're 218 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,000 small like water weasels. They're like smaller than a fisher, but bigger than 219 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:22,200 a whatever. So I mean, but also, beavers have to go on 220 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:26,480 land to find trees to cut down for their dams, so that poses a 221 00:16:26,559 --> 00:16:32,399 chance for a rabbit back to bite them, a rabbit raccoon to bite them. 222 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,240 That's true, that's true. You're right, You're right. You win 223 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,360 again. Ash is the expert. I'm just Nick, and just Nick is 224 00:16:38,399 --> 00:16:45,480 still a good thing to be appreciate. You all right, I tried. 225 00:16:45,759 --> 00:16:49,039 So anyways, time to get to our last story, the shortest one, 226 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,200 but the one that Katie sent me, which really piqued my interest in looking 227 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:56,639 into beavers more. Can I say guesses on this before you can get started? 228 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,320 Sure? I want to say he gets bit in the thigh again, 229 00:17:00,639 --> 00:17:03,960 and I got that ardens in there. I'm gonna say he severs that and 230 00:17:04,039 --> 00:17:08,279 things just don't go well for him. Well, you just ruined the whole 231 00:17:08,279 --> 00:17:11,240 story. Yes, I'm so good. We can cut that if you want. 232 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:15,240 No, no, no, So it's it's really quick. So in 233 00:17:15,279 --> 00:17:18,519 twenty thirteen, in Belarus, a man was fishing with his friends and spotted 234 00:17:18,519 --> 00:17:25,000 a beaver in nearby and he wanted a good picture. Where's Belarus? It's 235 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:33,680 a country, Belarus, is there? So in today's segment of Ashley does 236 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:38,599 not know geography, the country of Belarus is what she was talking about. 237 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,440 See this is the issue when you read things online but no one says it 238 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:48,279 to you in person. I've never had to talk about Belarus in my life. 239 00:17:48,559 --> 00:17:49,960 So we can start that segment over again. How am I supposed to 240 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:56,680 It's Belarus accents, It's fine, it's fine, it's fine. I'm not 241 00:17:56,759 --> 00:18:00,799 judging. I say we keep this in. I meant that's fine with me, 242 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:07,960 because uh, it's okay to admit your mistakes. Hey, yeah, 243 00:18:07,039 --> 00:18:12,960 we all make mistakes. Everybody has those days. Nobody's perfect, all right. 244 00:18:14,279 --> 00:18:21,839 So a man in Belarus was fishing, thank you very much, fishing 245 00:18:21,839 --> 00:18:26,119 with his friends and saw beaver. Wanted to get a picture of it, 246 00:18:26,799 --> 00:18:33,160 and apparently got too close because the beaver ran out at him, bit him 247 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:37,279 in the thigh and hit his femoral artery, and his friends were unable to 248 00:18:37,279 --> 00:18:41,200 stop the bleeding, so he bled to death. And that's the story that 249 00:18:41,279 --> 00:18:45,440 Katie set me, and the title was man tries to take picture of beaver, 250 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:49,640 beaver kills him, And I was like, I have to know more 251 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,480 about that. That's the headline's going to catch you though. Yeah. It 252 00:18:52,519 --> 00:18:56,519 was very click baby, and I fell for it, all right. So 253 00:18:56,759 --> 00:19:00,119 I'm sure information coming out of you know, in Europe isn't going to be 254 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:06,240 very you know, accessible. But do we know if this beaver is also 255 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,680 a rabbit? We don't, And that's a good point. I don't have 256 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,000 any more information than exactly what I just told you, So I have no 257 00:19:12,039 --> 00:19:15,480 idea but to me, it doesn't sound like it was rabbid, just because 258 00:19:15,519 --> 00:19:21,359 it sounds like he was just trying to get too close to an air Yeah. 259 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,920 I done in space. And do you know what the raby situation is 260 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,680 in Europe? No? No, okay, I'm just curious. They do 261 00:19:27,759 --> 00:19:30,839 have beavers. They have European beavers, which are a little smaller than our 262 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,519 North American beavers. But that's all I got I don't I'm not very up 263 00:19:34,559 --> 00:19:37,720 to date in the whole raby scene out There's no no I gotcha. I 264 00:19:37,759 --> 00:19:41,079 was just curious to say if you knew, And to be fair, I 265 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,160 didn't even know how to pronounce the name of the country. So hey, 266 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,279 we learned something though. Together. This is what it is all about. 267 00:19:47,279 --> 00:19:48,880 We're all learning. You teach me things every day. Hey, and you 268 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,200 just taught me a thing exactly. See. This is why this is great, 269 00:19:52,519 --> 00:19:57,720 isn't it lovely? So here's another thing to learn. Beavers don't live 270 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:02,720 in their dams. Oh wait, I think I know why I make them. 271 00:20:03,039 --> 00:20:04,559 Yeah, oh god, I just wouldna have said that. I'm scared, 272 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:11,640 all right. I think they like slower moving water, so they make 273 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,160 the dams to keep the river or stream or wherever they are from, like 274 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:21,400 being flashed fast flowing or I didn't take another gas. No, no, 275 00:20:21,599 --> 00:20:25,640 from the look on your face, it's just the blank stare. No's correct. 276 00:20:26,279 --> 00:20:30,480 They make dams to stop or impede water flow so that it floods an 277 00:20:30,559 --> 00:20:34,720 area, so it makes the water deeper, and they can then build a 278 00:20:34,799 --> 00:20:38,400 lodge, which is what they live in. So the lodges. Yeah, 279 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:44,519 so the lodges only have underwater entrances, so it is really protective against any 280 00:20:44,559 --> 00:20:48,200 predators like I don't know, mountains, anythings, wolves, literally anything else 281 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:53,279 that doesn't swim. Minks, I'm sure mess them up because minks are very 282 00:20:53,359 --> 00:21:00,160 ferocious, any sort of weasel, very ferocious predators. I wouldn't say that. 283 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,160 I would just say that they're really good at what they do, and 284 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:06,039 what they do is kill everything nice. I love them. You gotta love 285 00:21:06,039 --> 00:21:11,079 a mustlid. So, oh, muscleids are weasels. I appreciate that. 286 00:21:11,079 --> 00:21:15,960 I had no idea, gotcha. So, and they're called that because likes 287 00:21:17,039 --> 00:21:21,079 You know, how skunks have that scent gland. I do. Muscleids also 288 00:21:21,079 --> 00:21:23,920 have that scent gland, but unlike skunks, they cannot aim it no shit. 289 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,960 Mm hm. So they're still stinky, but not like spray you in 290 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:33,000 the face stinky. So if you have like a pet ferret or pet mink 291 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:34,559 or something like that, can you have those removed or do they kind of 292 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,759 exist forever and you have to make sure you don't scare your musclid. Uh, 293 00:21:38,839 --> 00:21:44,359 you can't have a pet mink because they're uh, what's the word for 294 00:21:44,519 --> 00:21:49,240 it, nasty? I guess nice, Like, yeah, you don't want 295 00:21:49,319 --> 00:21:55,200 one. Because also, if you own a ferret, why why do you 296 00:21:55,240 --> 00:22:00,880 do that? Tell you they bite so much and they smell so much. 297 00:22:00,279 --> 00:22:06,240 Okay, but she's not like a fur snake, a furry snake. Okay, 298 00:22:06,519 --> 00:22:08,599 a ferret is like a cat and a snake had a baby. And 299 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,400 if they're so slippery, they bite you run around, they're very smelly. 300 00:22:12,799 --> 00:22:18,200 So I don't Personally, I don't know, just because I've never cared about 301 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:22,880 owning a ferret because all the ones I've met had bitten me a lot, 302 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,720 and I don't like it. So I don't know, but I know that 303 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,599 they either way that they stink, so cool take that with a grain of 304 00:22:30,599 --> 00:22:37,160 salt. So, speaking of stink, you want to talk about, you 305 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:42,079 want to talk about beaver castorium. Yes, okay, whatever the hell that 306 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:47,480 is. You didn't have an option. Beavers have a cast or sack. 307 00:22:47,759 --> 00:22:52,079 Well. Also, just to back up, so the name of the scientific 308 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:56,279 name of the North American beaver is cast or canadensis. So they have a 309 00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:03,960 cast or sack, which is a sack near their butt, and they secrete 310 00:23:04,839 --> 00:23:08,880 a liquid from it, and that's what they used to mark their territories. 311 00:23:10,519 --> 00:23:15,279 However, it happens to smell like a birch tree or leather. Okay. 312 00:23:15,759 --> 00:23:19,960 And and when you dilute it in alcohol, and no, not the drinking 313 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:26,200 kind of alcohol, it happens to smell like vanilla. Do you know where 314 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:30,680 I'm going with this air fresheners. No. For the past eighty years, 315 00:23:32,039 --> 00:23:38,200 it has been used in some foods, and the FDA considers it quote generally 316 00:23:38,279 --> 00:23:45,240 safe to consume. No, that gross. When it's listed in food, 317 00:23:45,559 --> 00:23:49,480 it's just called natural flavoring and they don't necessarily have to tell you what it 318 00:23:49,519 --> 00:23:55,519 is. Oh no. And it's most often used like to enhance raspberry and 319 00:23:55,559 --> 00:24:00,240 strawberry flavoring. So no, I just had a salter earlier. Is it 320 00:24:00,279 --> 00:24:04,400 in there? Yeah? Your white claw does. In fact, contain beaver 321 00:24:04,519 --> 00:24:08,519 anal secretions. I'm kidding. I don't know that for a fact. It's 322 00:24:08,559 --> 00:24:15,519 actually not super widely used anymore, just because it's a gross to extract for 323 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,720 the person and the beaver. But it's still you can we make our own 324 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,319 seltzer, just name it beaver anal, like make sure this stuff is in 325 00:24:23,319 --> 00:24:27,839 there. I don't think that's a thing a lot of people would want. 326 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,119 I don't know, like if you were watching through gross name If we're gonna 327 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:37,319 walk through like a liquor store and we see something that says beaver yan long, 328 00:24:37,559 --> 00:24:38,759 I have to buy it, like I'm gonna pick. I need to 329 00:24:38,839 --> 00:24:42,039 know. I will say I will buy any sort of beer that has a 330 00:24:42,039 --> 00:24:45,759 fish or a bird or an animal on it. It's all about the marketing. 331 00:24:47,559 --> 00:24:49,559 I don't know how many people will drink a drink that says anal on 332 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,759 it, though, but we only need them to try it once. If 333 00:24:52,759 --> 00:24:57,599 we get everyone in America try it once, we'll be millionaires. I fully 334 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:02,480 support you in your independ endeavor. To make this, I need you to 335 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:08,160 be an investor. I sorry, I have to go, oh okay, 336 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:12,319 well this is fun, so anyway, forget whatever I do have more to 337 00:25:12,319 --> 00:25:19,000 say besides the beaver anal, Oh my god, I hope this does not 338 00:25:19,039 --> 00:25:26,240 become a thing. Please go kind like a double entendre there, because, 339 00:25:27,599 --> 00:25:32,680 oh my god, Nick, we'll leave that one there. We have to 340 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:37,720 fucking get rid of to go back to beaver's making damns. So, have 341 00:25:37,799 --> 00:25:41,440 you ever heard of them called like an ecosystem engineer or a keystone species? 342 00:25:42,799 --> 00:25:47,039 I know of those terms, I don't. I've never heard it as in 343 00:25:47,559 --> 00:25:51,920 relation to a beaver. Yeah, So they're called that because they modify their 344 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:56,559 habitat so much so because they dam rivers or other moving bodies of water up 345 00:25:56,799 --> 00:26:02,160 and it creates essentially beaver ponds. A lot of other animals will use those. 346 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,759 So there's certain types of salamanders and certain types of frogs that will use 347 00:26:04,799 --> 00:26:08,480 those. There's certain birds and mammals that really like beaver ponds for different reasons 348 00:26:08,519 --> 00:26:12,720 and whatnot. So they could be really important for an ecosystem in fostering biodiversity. 349 00:26:12,839 --> 00:26:18,160 So are you aware that we murdered a whole bunch of them a long 350 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,440 time ago? Yes? I am, Yeah. Do you remember what for? 351 00:26:22,279 --> 00:26:26,160 They're pelts? Yeah? Do you remember what we did with them? 352 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:33,079 Sold them to Europe did. It's honestly a whole thing, and I'm pretty 353 00:26:33,079 --> 00:26:36,160 sure we talked about this for weeks and weeks and weeks in like high school 354 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:41,960 history class. Beaver pelts are being traded long before white Europeans came over here, 355 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,319 so pre Columbus, other indigenous peoples were trading them between tribes. But 356 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:52,440 then good old white Europeans came over and we're like, we like that and 357 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,480 we're gonna kill all of them. Yeah, these beaver hats were into it, 358 00:26:56,519 --> 00:26:59,720 and then all of Europe was like, hell, yeah, that's the 359 00:26:59,799 --> 00:27:07,400 new So nineteenth century bam, beaver hats all the rage. And because white 360 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,240 Europeans came over, they were able to bring that beaver pelt slash beaver hat 361 00:27:11,279 --> 00:27:15,400 trade over to Europe as well, so it really expanded the whole market. 362 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:23,119 So it was just really booming what's the word industry. Yeah, it was 363 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:30,880 this really booming industry. And originally there was like forty to sixty million beavers 364 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:37,079 in North America, which is crazy to think about, but we quickly brought 365 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:41,759 those numbers down. So what really I mean, this is kind of the 366 00:27:41,759 --> 00:27:47,680 thing with any sort of you know, pelt trading is very it fluctuates a 367 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:55,039 lot, so styles in Europe changed in mid nineteenth century and no more beaver 368 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:59,680 hats were wanted or needed. So that means all of the indigenous peoples that 369 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:04,960 were reliant on the fur trade, which was inevitably crushed in Europe, all 370 00:28:06,039 --> 00:28:10,039 those people were like shunted it into poverty. Indigenous peoples who might have been 371 00:28:10,039 --> 00:28:14,200 making a lot of money or had like a really luxurious trade business and might 372 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:18,359 have held some sort of political power because of it, not anymore, because 373 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,039 Europe was like, silk is cool, We're gonna do that instead forever, 374 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,559 goodbye. It took us a while, but now we have upwards of four 375 00:28:23,599 --> 00:28:29,599 million beavers in America, which like sounds like it's really still not a lot, 376 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,960 but it's way better than having zero. So yeah, I'm pretty sure. 377 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:40,759 Like people say that the beaver trade is what funded the western expansion in 378 00:28:40,799 --> 00:28:44,240 that time, it was really important. Yeah, yeah, we ran out 379 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,319 of beavers in the northeast, so they had to keep moving west to go 380 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,279 kill as many as they pass we can. Yeah, which is it's crazy 381 00:28:51,319 --> 00:28:55,160 how important beavers were to us, similar to bison. In my head, 382 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,920 like there were two such important animals and so iconic in North America and we 383 00:29:00,799 --> 00:29:03,920 just wipe them all out. Yeah, which I mean, at least we 384 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,640 use the beavers for stuff, but eventually we just killed bison just because, 385 00:29:08,519 --> 00:29:12,799 just because so they're big and cool. Yeah, We're like, let's run 386 00:29:12,799 --> 00:29:18,160 them all off the cliffs. Correct. Yeah, yeah, which I've mentioned 387 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,759 in the rabies episode and the coyote episode. But Dan Flores, who wrote 388 00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:26,440 Coyote America, he also has a book called American Serengetti, and it's fascinating 389 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:30,759 to learn about the whole history with all the big animals in North America. 390 00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:34,720 It's also horrifying. But either way, I think if we're to circle back 391 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,200 to the attacks that happened that we talked about, I mean, three out 392 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:42,279 of four of them were confirmed rabies cases and the last one was more or 393 00:29:42,359 --> 00:29:45,880 less a mistake. Yeah. I mean we also don't even know like it 394 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:51,160 could have been. But let's just assume the guy got too close. Yeah, 395 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:56,039 so we mentioned before, but beavers are territorial, so if you get 396 00:29:56,119 --> 00:30:00,920 too close to their space, they will slap their tail to keep you away. 397 00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:06,240 So basically that's it. Just don't approach them and if they slap their 398 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,599 tail, you're too close and move away. That's it. They're really easy 399 00:30:08,599 --> 00:30:11,400 to live around. Yeah No, I mean, like, really, how 400 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,720 close do you need to be to a beaver to be for it to be 401 00:30:15,799 --> 00:30:18,440 uncomfortable? You just have to be in its area? Like if it owns 402 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,240 like a pond, do you have to just like be away from that pond? 403 00:30:21,359 --> 00:30:23,799 Is it just when you're near the beaver itself, Like I don't even 404 00:30:23,799 --> 00:30:26,880 know what it would be. Yeah, So not necessarily, you don't have 405 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,799 to be like just in its area per se. I mean, I've had 406 00:30:30,799 --> 00:30:33,559 friends who have stood on like the bank of a river and taken a video 407 00:30:33,599 --> 00:30:36,319 of a beaver swimming by. So one, I think it depends on the 408 00:30:36,319 --> 00:30:38,480 individual. Two, I think it depends on what you are doing. So 409 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,759 if you're just standing there and like not doing anything, one, the beaver 410 00:30:42,839 --> 00:30:45,279 might not even see you, and two it might just not care or think 411 00:30:45,279 --> 00:30:48,680 that you're a threat. So yeah, once again, I think it really 412 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,920 depends on the beaver. I personally have never seen a beaver on land. 413 00:30:52,279 --> 00:30:55,799 I don't know if I have, I can't remember. I feel like you 414 00:30:55,839 --> 00:30:59,720 would remember if you'd seen the beaver on land. Maybe I don't know. 415 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,039 I don't know, so, I mean, I think the odds of running 416 00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:07,000 into them are pretty slim anyways. And then there is a website that I 417 00:31:07,079 --> 00:31:11,759 will link to because I think it's really good if you're having issues of beavers. 418 00:31:11,799 --> 00:31:17,599 So I kind of I've coached some people through beaver issues. They tend 419 00:31:17,599 --> 00:31:21,160 to be complicated because a lot of people who are experiencing issues with beavers it's 420 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,279 because they're flooding their property. A differs state by state, but depending on 421 00:31:25,319 --> 00:31:27,720 what you can do depends on if the beaver's physically on your property. So 422 00:31:27,759 --> 00:31:33,359 if it's living in a protected natural area near your home and the dam is 423 00:31:33,359 --> 00:31:37,119 there, there's not a thing you can really do about it. So that's 424 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,200 kind of where the conflicts come into play with beavers. It's less of beaver's 425 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,519 attacking people, more of their dam's kind of disrupting things or washing out roadways 426 00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:51,079 and whatnot. So there's this website called Beaverinstitute dot org, and they have 427 00:31:51,359 --> 00:31:56,079 a lot of information on how you can prevent tree damage or beaver dam flooding 428 00:31:56,079 --> 00:32:00,359 on your property or like road culverts that are blocked. But I'll give you 429 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,279 the quick rundown. So if you are experiencing beaver damage on your property, 430 00:32:04,319 --> 00:32:07,279 whether that be well, I guess let's start with trees. So if there's 431 00:32:07,319 --> 00:32:09,319 beavers around there coming on your property and cutting down your trees that you don't 432 00:32:09,319 --> 00:32:14,119 want them to cut down, super easy, wrap the base of the tree 433 00:32:14,119 --> 00:32:17,559 in aluminum flashing. Do you know what aluminum flashing is. No, i'd 434 00:32:17,559 --> 00:32:22,720 say just luminfoil like you get from the grocery store. No, it's basically 435 00:32:22,759 --> 00:32:27,440 like just those sheets of metal and wrap it. Yeah, you just wrap 436 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,200 it tight around the base of the tree. Because beavers can't climb and also 437 00:32:30,279 --> 00:32:36,880 chew, they cannot chew through like slick metal. So bottom ban, bottom 438 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,000 boom, your trees are protected. Hell yeah. If a if a beaver, 439 00:32:40,599 --> 00:32:45,759 if he if a beaver is flooding your property and its dam is on 440 00:32:45,799 --> 00:32:50,759 your property or a property that you owned, whatever, you can actually install 441 00:32:50,799 --> 00:32:53,039 what it's called a beaver pipe. So essentially it's like a PVC pipe, 442 00:32:53,119 --> 00:32:55,319 I'm sure it's like a little more specialized than that, and you can put 443 00:32:55,359 --> 00:32:59,920 it through the dam so that way doesn't fully dismantle the dam, but it 444 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,680 still allows water to flow through. Okay, So yeah, so there's that. 445 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,720 I mean, I think, at least in our state, trappers are 446 00:33:08,759 --> 00:33:15,279 a little more willing to relocate beavers just because you know they're making a comeback, 447 00:33:15,359 --> 00:33:19,640 so there's not a ton of them, so they're willing to relocate them 448 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,559 more often than not. But you have to relocate beavers such a far distance 449 00:33:23,559 --> 00:33:28,000 so they won't just walk right back, and the odds of so if there's 450 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,799 a good spot for a beaver, the odds of another beaver being there is 451 00:33:30,839 --> 00:33:35,079 pretty high. So finding a good spot for a beaver that doesn't already have 452 00:33:35,119 --> 00:33:38,400 a beaver in it is pretty slim. So if you're just relocating an animal 453 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:43,000 and throwing it somewhere where there's already a beaver, they're probably gonna fight to 454 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,599 the death. So are you really helping it? Probably not, But yes, 455 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:52,920 I mean beavers did and do help to prevent erosion of streams, and 456 00:33:52,039 --> 00:33:58,519 they also create wetlands, so they can be really important in an ecosystem. 457 00:33:58,559 --> 00:34:02,200 And I think people just inherently like see the water rising and just immediately get 458 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,680 annoyed and want them gone. But they can do a lot of good for 459 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,639 the places that they're in. So check out Beaver Institute dot org. They 460 00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:15,239 have a lot of good information and specifically checking in with the laws and regulations 461 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,679 in your state will be helpful too, because I'm sure they differ everywhere. 462 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:22,920 So let's say you do have a beaver inter property and you don't want it 463 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,480 there, and it hasn't like established a damn and stuff yet, do you 464 00:34:24,559 --> 00:34:29,360 know ways you can like deter them from picking your area or are they pretty 465 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,239 determined that when they find the spot they want, like they are making their 466 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,920 shit there. I would say they're pretty determined, but I also don't know 467 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,920 how you would deter a beaver. So to me, it's similar when someone 468 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:44,559 has a porcupine on their property and they want it gone. You can't harass 469 00:34:44,599 --> 00:34:47,960 a porcupine because not a lot messes with the porcupine. They just don't care. 470 00:34:49,559 --> 00:34:52,960 They're like what, you can honestly want to get porcupine and like nudge 471 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,280 it with your foot and it'll be like eh and then just walk on. 472 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,000 They actually do sound like that. If you've never heard of porcupine, please 473 00:34:59,039 --> 00:35:00,559 God look it up. It's so precious. Yeah, I don't think that 474 00:35:00,559 --> 00:35:05,440 there's a lot you can do to like harass them away, because if you 475 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,679 have a good pond, you have a good pond. All you can really 476 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,760 do is protect your trees that you own to prevent them from using those and 477 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,599 their damn and they're lodges and whatnot. Other than that, I mean, 478 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,199 the speaker's gonna bev. You know, Beaver's gonna bev Yep, yep. 479 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,400 Do you have any other questions? Oh, do you have any numbers on 480 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:23,760 like how common beaver tacks are? Like, I know I've ever been through 481 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:29,000 the story and everything, but it kind of curious. Honestly, the attacks 482 00:35:29,039 --> 00:35:32,079 I presented to you in this story were like the major stories I could find 483 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:37,000 because it's just doesn't really happen, and when it does, it's usually rabies. 484 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:42,039 And then also, I mean I wouldn't even say that they go unreported 485 00:35:42,119 --> 00:35:45,239 because it's such a weird animal to attack people that I'm sure it makes the 486 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:50,480 news every single time that happens, yeah, which is not often at all. 487 00:35:50,599 --> 00:35:52,239 So it kind of goes back to the rabies episode, like, there's 488 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:57,079 not a lot you can do to protect yourself from rabies besides be aware of 489 00:35:57,159 --> 00:36:00,880 the signs and make sure that that animal gets tested, especially if you come 490 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:06,920 into contact with it. So hell yeah, yeah, cool, Well that's 491 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,480 all I got, yeah, and that's all I got. So, like 492 00:36:09,599 --> 00:36:12,719 Nick and I mentioned the last episode, we knew this is going to be 493 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,960 kind of a short one. I don't know if it's I don't know if 494 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,079 any of the things we talk about are fun necessarily, but it's definitely an 495 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:22,119 interesting special fun talking about them. That's the important part. Always have fun 496 00:36:22,159 --> 00:36:24,960 talking with the amount of things that are being cut from this episode, oh 497 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:30,280 it'd been awesome bonus. You can imagine the things Nick has said in an 498 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:35,880 episode talking about beavers, and I won't say any more than that it's been 499 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,960 fun. Our next episode will come out in another two weeks. Once again, 500 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,920 very sorry to switch to the bi weekly schedule, but it just makes 501 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:50,480 more sense. My life is a mess, and I think our episodes will 502 00:36:50,519 --> 00:36:53,800 be better for them being bi weekly. And like I said before, we 503 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:58,239 can spend more time on bonus episodes for our patrons too, which will be 504 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:02,519 nice. So to be the not safer work version, Oh god. Yeah, 505 00:37:04,039 --> 00:37:07,880 And you can find that on patreon dot com, slash get Out a 506 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,239 Live Podcast, or on our website. There's a button for the Patreon and 507 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:15,719 our website is www dot get out a Live Podcast dot com. You can 508 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:20,960 also see the information and links for this episode in the description below. I 509 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,599 promise I will link to the Beaver Institute dot org for if you're having any 510 00:37:23,639 --> 00:37:29,960 issues with anything, you can rate us on Apple Podcasts and subscribe. Wherever 511 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,639 you're listening. You can follow us on Instagram at get out a Live Pod 512 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:38,440 and follow me on Twitter at the Angry Ologist Nick. I would like to 513 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:43,639 thank everyone for listening because we just crossed over what fifteen hundred listens the other 514 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,159 day, like last week or something. Yeah, we are killing it, 515 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:50,239 So thank you very much for everyone who's been listening. Uh, do not 516 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,639 look for me on social media. Yeah. Oh, also we have a 517 00:37:52,639 --> 00:37:57,760 Facebook Get Out a Live Podcast. Nick's claims he will respond to your comments 518 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,159 and whatnot there and not a single person has asked a single question, which 519 00:38:01,199 --> 00:38:05,360 is probably smart, Like just google it ifyona be on the internet anyways, 520 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,880 google whatever you need. But like, if you want a fun answer, 521 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:13,280 I'm your guy. And when this episode comes out I will be either in 522 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,360 Glacier or the Grand Tetons. So if you go to our podcast get at 523 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:20,840 a Live Pod on Instagram. Yeah, if you go to our Instagram at 524 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,920 get at a Live Pod, you can see updates there from me while I'm 525 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:28,000 in the National Parks. Can I take over one of our social medias for 526 00:38:28,039 --> 00:38:30,800 the week. You can take over all of them except for Instagram, Oh 527 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:35,480 my god, it's very dangerous. Except for my personal Twitter. You cannot 528 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,320 take that one. The damage you would do would be you have a lot 529 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:42,559 of followers. I hit over two thousand the other day. That's nuts. 530 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,719 Yeah. I was gonna say something about it, but then I was at 531 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,119 awake, so I was like, you know, I'll celebrate this in my 532 00:38:49,199 --> 00:38:52,639 head, but yeah, no, being famous is great, but like, 533 00:38:52,199 --> 00:38:55,280 not not the time to celebrate. I don't know if i'd call it famous, 534 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,960 but I appreciate all of you. So anyways. Also, before I 535 00:39:00,159 --> 00:39:04,719 forget again, thank you to my good friend and second grade husband Josh Walsh 536 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,360 for making our intro music and we will see you in two weeks with a 537 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:13,800 new episode of Get Out Alive. Thank you for listening. Have a great 538 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,280 time, Ashley. Thanks Dick,