Welcome to episode nine of Get Out Alive. I am your host and resident
animal expert, Ashley, and I am your other host, Nick. I
didn't think of anything funny to say here. I always blindside you every time,
you really do. I never expect it, but we do it every
single time. Yeah. So anyways, this is get Out a live a
podcast where we talk about animal attacks every week and then talk about how to
avoid those animal attacks if possible. And today, I'm sure as a species
no one was expecting, including myself. Yeah. I made that three of
us, you know, you, me and everyone else in the world.
Yeah. So the reason the reason we're doing this episode is because at is
Katie Outside from Twitter messaged me and said, have you heard of this man
who was killed by a beaver, to which I said, no, but
tell me everything. So I promised her we would do this episode next after
Hippos, and here we are, and it is two weeks after our hippo
episode. Because the more I looked at a calendar, the more I realized
it was not reasonable for us to put out episodes while I was in Yellowstone
slash whatever for ten days. So the people have been on the edge of
their seats waiting for this episode to come out, and it's beavers, and
it's beavers. Yeah, it's beavers for better or worse. And then the
episode that'll come out next Honestly, I can't say for certain, so I'm
not even gonna promise that. So sometime around the September probably Yeah. Well,
I don't know what species will be doing either whatever. Yeah, well,
we'll keep them, keep on the edge of their seats, keep them
on the toes. Yeah. Well, today we have a few stories to
go through, and I'll save the story that Katie sent me as the last
story we're going to talk about. But you know what, let's just get
into it. Let's do it. I'm not going to preface anything. We're
just gonna go read beaver attack stories like what. We don't want to hear
any bullshit. Just get ready into it. No, you know what,
Nick, what's a beaver? What is a beaver? It is a little
furry creature that it's wood and has a big old tail that it uses to
slap water. Uh. Yeah, I guess that's nailed it. Yeah,
that's pretty good way to put it. So they're the second largest rodent in
the world and they can be. They can be up to sixty five pounds.
Yeah, yeah, they're not exactly little. But how big is a
kapy bara? Oh god, I would say, like over hundred much does
a cat? I how much does a kapubera cost? Why was that for
seventy five holy shit, seventy seven to one hundred and fifty pounds? Jesus,
I really thought it was one hundred and I was like, no,
that sounds too big. But yeah, I mean we would have been right.
Yeah, it's nice in the middle, but yeah, so much larger.
And they're the largest rodent that we have in North America. Do you
know the second largest oohugh, I don't. I do even know beaver was
a rodent. So this is gonna be part fun. Let's go with a
wood chuck porcupine? Ah, fuck me, a little prickly bastards. I
mean, I feel like it's hard to know, Like, if you're not
familiar with animals and how they're classified whatever, it's hard to look at a
porcupine a beaver and be like, oh, those are the same family,
you know, are a fucking rat and a beaver? Like would never Yeah,
imagine a squirrel and a porcupine. Yeah, no, no, but
yeah, so beavers, like all other rodents, have constantly growing teeth.
So if you've ever seen a beaver's teeth, and if you haven't looked them
up, they're kind of grody looking. But so they're front teeth that they
use for gnawing and whatnot. The ones that are growing, they're coated in
this. I think it's like an iron substance, and that's what makes them
orange. It's the same with porcupines. So to be bit by one is
real bad, not only because they can carry a bunch of nasty bacteria and
whatnot, but like, those teeth are nasty. I mean, they're also
like chewing trees all the time. I'd imagine they have pretty powerful jaws and
sharp teeth. Yeah, if you've ever seen a beaver skull, it is
huge, very impressive. So hey, good for them. Keep that in
mind for these stories. So let's get started with a beaver attack that occurred
in twenty twelve, and right off the bat, we're talking about fifty one
year old normand Brosseau Nice nailed it. Uh, maybe that could be wrong,
And if you're listening, Norman, I apologize, but I think you're
real cool. And let's get into Norman's story. So spoiler, Norman survives
apparently, Thanks for that, oh man, spoiler for everyone. Hey,
ghosts can be listening. You don't know, Norman. I'm glad you're around,
Bud. Thanks for being a listener. Yeah. So Norman was leading
a boy scout troop in the Delaware River, just like on a swimming trip
in eastern Pennsylvania in August second, twenty twelve. So they're just floating down
this river with like little pool noodles, just kind of coasting, you know
what I mean, chill, I like it, Yeah, just hanging out.
And what he thought was a fish, a giant carp specifically, swam
through his legs. What he no, No, don't tell me what the
something's about to happen between his legs with a beaver kind of So, no,
not a giant carp. It was a beaver that swam through his legs.
Eggs, don't tell me it attached itself to his chest. Oh well,
that's a lot of hype for o them. You're the one who hyped
it, are you sorry? Coming between his legs? Like, what else
are we gonna think? Hey, that was the beaver's fault, not mine.
So anyways, the beaver attaches itself to his chest and he managed to
throw it off of him, but it very quickly returned and bit him on
the leg, the button, the arms, hands, and torso what the
fuck is wrong with beaver? Before he managed to get a hold of its
mouth and like close it and keep it closed. So what the hell I
know? So we called the boys for help, all of whom originally were
like Norman, like what are you talking about? Because he was like,
ah, help and they were like beaver, yeah, and they're like,
we're in a river in Pennsylvania, there's nothing. And turns out it was
a forty five pound beaver. So he swam to the shore and as he
approached, and obviously the boys are helping him along because he was like beaten
up. So as he approached the shore, he threw the beaver onto the
ground while the scouts helped him out, and it was stunned for a moment,
but then quickly recooped and then began attacking the pool noodle. What the
hell was wrong with this thing? Okay, we're not at the end of
the story yet, but so far, what do you think is going on
from what we've learned in the past. I'm gonna say it's rabbit. Good
job. Nick. I'm proud of you too much. I'm becoming an animal
expert slowly, aren't we. All? So this, this story is crazy
because the Scouts stepped into help normand and they were like, we got to
kill this thing. It's not gonna stop. All they had were rocks.
So for minutes they were pelting rocks at this beaver trying to kill it.
Oh my god. And fifteen year old boy who was in the troop said
it took a few minutes to die. Quote and yeah, they finally like
they literally stoned it to death. What what a wow? What a boy
Scots troup. Yeah, and it was like ride or die, Like let's
go, and like Norman's our guy. You want the smoke, will give
you the smoke. Mess with Norman get stoned. So oh days later it
was confirmed that the beaver had rabies, so Norman received twenty raby shots but
made a full recovery. So good. Yeah, and you know, obviously
just as like a little thing here, as Nick guessed, it was rabid
because it was attacking pool noodles. Also, these people were floating down the
middle of a river. They weren't near a dam at all, so there
was no reason for the beaver to be territorial. So a beaver attacking you
out of nowhere and also attacking nanimate objects is definitely ill. Yeah. I
think I've heard somewhere randomly in my life that beaers are territorial. But this
just does not make sense. Yeah, I mean my whole life, I've
not I haven't seen a lot of beavers in my time, but I've always
been told, like growing up by my parents, Hey, don't go near
beavers. If they slap their tails at you, that means they want you
to get away from them. And that's true. So as long as you
respect their space, you're typically fine, unless their rabbits shouldn't get a bit
in the chest by a beaver. Yeah. So a month earlier in Virginia,
same year, in Lake Anna, Annabelle, who was eleven years old,
and Alyssa, who was eight years old, were swimming on a Sunday
when Alyssa felt a bump on her leg. Shark definitely a shark in a
freshwater lake. Yes, so, initially in a freshwater lake, I thought
they go into rivers. I mean like depends on how far I mean rivers
considered it different episode, all right, So initially Alyssa thought it was her
cousin playing with her, but because she saw like a dark shape in the
water, so she assumed it was a person. But when she tried to
get out of the water, a beaver bit her in the thigh, which
not a great spot to be bit. No. No, there's a lot
of a lot of blood flowing through there, a lot of stuff going on
in there that's important. So yea. Once it detached from Melissa, it
circled behind Annabella and bit her on the back of her leg. Lucky for
them. What I just feel like we're hitting a lot of like rabid beaver
stories right now. Is that what you think this is? Oh? That
is my guess. Yeah, okay, that's your guys. So their uncle
was nearby and luckily was able to kill the beaver and send it to the
state Health department, and it indeed did come back positive for rabies. Boom
you go. So Alyssa received fifteen stitches and Annabella had three wounds above her
knee, but both made full recoveries. I I don't want to go back
in the water. You're not safe anywhere. Oh please, it's rapid beavers.
The odds of you encountering one is so slim, I mean until it
happens, and then the odds are one hundred percent because it happened. Also,
I feel like it's pretty easy to realize you're in an area with beavers
because of all of the beaver dams and lodges and mounds and whatnot. So
here we are again, Pennsylvania for our next story. Our third socks.
Nick used to you used to live in Pennsylvania, right, No, I
have family in Pennsylvania. Oh okay, Pa. It's very annoying. I
hope they listen to it. So twenty eighteen, Adams County, Pennsylvania.
This is another crazy story. So Dan Whirley, I hope I pronounced that
right. Dan and his seven year old daughter Leila, and their dog were
kayaking in a creek near their home. They're in their kayaks and Dan felt
something grab onto it. And this gives me hippo flashbacks in my head.
I'm like, I know there's no hippos in Pennsylvania, Ashley, there is
no way it's a hippo. But Initially he thought it was his dog,
but then realized it was quote a big, crazy ass beaver. It's probably
the way I would describe it to Yeah, and this is all from a
Facebook post he made after the incident with like pictures of the beaver. So
anyways, he started hitting it with his paddle, but it persisted trying to
get into his kayak, and he has pictures on his Facebook a bit jumping
out of the water to bite his oar. What okay, I just I
don't get it, he said. After a few minutes, it swam to
the other side of the creek, turned and saw his daughter Leila oh no,
and she was thirty yards from dan oh no, so he started screaming
at her to get to the shore. He jumped out of his kayak and
luckily was able to make his way over to her as the beaver was flimbing
onto the back of her kayak. Imagine how horrifying as a seven year old
girl. I have a question, yes, do you think it'd be faster
to swim or kayak over there? Well, I mean, if it's a
creak. I feel like if it was, if the water level was low
enough that you could just run I guess, yeah, yeah, I think
that'd be better because you're not like having to use both o. You know
what I mean, you can not get you yet a group that Yeah,
sure, I mean clearly it worked out for him. So he was able
to get over there and punch the beaver off of the back of the kayak
into the water. Okay, So these all these stories have been in the
past, like ten years. Why are there so many crazy fucking beavers because
Rabi's is a thing? Are they like remembering all those zeros we spent trapping
them and they just want payback, Like, oh honey, we will get
to it, don't you. Story all right, So he punches it into
the water, and even after being punched in the head, the beaver still
is lunging it in and it followed him and Layla all the way to the
shore as Dan punched and kicked it and tried to keep it away, and
even when they got to land, the attack did not stop. He said,
for a few minutes he was beating the beaver with rocks and it would
swim away but then come right back. And he said, finally he found
a big stick and hit it on the head five times and Luckily for him
and his daughter, the last hit managed to kill it. These freaking beavers.
Luckily for them, though neither of them were bit Okay, are you
wondering where the other member of this story is? I know, he said
another one. Umm, their dog? Oh my god, the dog.
I forgot about the dog. Dan noted that his bloodhound hid in the weeds
the entire time this attack was happening. That's that's a homie right there.
See, he knew things weren't bad yet he was. He was ready to
pounce, you know, for when things got real serious, Like these guys
got this, I gotta let them have one. He was like, ho,
yeah, those bloodhounds. Yeah. So anyways, the beaver did test
positive for rabies and it was the first ever reported rabbid beaver in that county.
Oh look at that. That's great. It's showing up new places.
Yeah, good for them. I mean, it's totally possible. It's been
there before, and there have been rabbid beavers, but they just didn't encounter
people and died before they could pass it, you know what I mean.
So mean, beavers are like relatively like solo animals, right, They're not
very social, are they yeah they are. Oh yeah, So what I
meant to say is beavers are extremely social. Right, So, like I
was gonna ask, how does a beaver even get rabies because it's eating fish
or in like shit off the bottom of the river, isn't it. So
they eat like grasses, like aquatic grasses, the fish or anything. But
that could I guess that's not something we really address in the rabies episode either.
But you don't have to be a social animal to get rabies. It
could just be a chance encounter. So for example, a mink could get
rabies and swim out and bite a beaver. You know what mink is,
Oh yeah, a little tiny like ferret type thing. Uh yeah, they're
small like water weasels. They're like smaller than a fisher, but bigger than
a whatever. So I mean, but also, beavers have to go on
land to find trees to cut down for their dams, so that poses a
chance for a rabbit back to bite them, a rabbit raccoon to bite them.
That's true, that's true. You're right, You're right. You win
again. Ash is the expert. I'm just Nick, and just Nick is
still a good thing to be appreciate. You all right, I tried.
So anyways, time to get to our last story, the shortest one,
but the one that Katie sent me, which really piqued my interest in looking
into beavers more. Can I say guesses on this before you can get started?
Sure? I want to say he gets bit in the thigh again,
and I got that ardens in there. I'm gonna say he severs that and
things just don't go well for him. Well, you just ruined the whole
story. Yes, I'm so good. We can cut that if you want.
No, no, no, So it's it's really quick. So in
twenty thirteen, in Belarus, a man was fishing with his friends and spotted
a beaver in nearby and he wanted a good picture. Where's Belarus? It's
a country, Belarus, is there? So in today's segment of Ashley does
not know geography, the country of Belarus is what she was talking about.
See this is the issue when you read things online but no one says it
to you in person. I've never had to talk about Belarus in my life.
So we can start that segment over again. How am I supposed to
It's Belarus accents, It's fine, it's fine, it's fine. I'm not
judging. I say we keep this in. I meant that's fine with me,
because uh, it's okay to admit your mistakes. Hey, yeah,
we all make mistakes. Everybody has those days. Nobody's perfect, all right.
So a man in Belarus was fishing, thank you very much, fishing
with his friends and saw beaver. Wanted to get a picture of it,
and apparently got too close because the beaver ran out at him, bit him
in the thigh and hit his femoral artery, and his friends were unable to
stop the bleeding, so he bled to death. And that's the story that
Katie set me, and the title was man tries to take picture of beaver,
beaver kills him, And I was like, I have to know more
about that. That's the headline's going to catch you though. Yeah. It
was very click baby, and I fell for it, all right. So
I'm sure information coming out of you know, in Europe isn't going to be
very you know, accessible. But do we know if this beaver is also
a rabbit? We don't, And that's a good point. I don't have
any more information than exactly what I just told you, So I have no
idea but to me, it doesn't sound like it was rabbid, just because
it sounds like he was just trying to get too close to an air Yeah.
I done in space. And do you know what the raby situation is
in Europe? No? No, okay, I'm just curious. They do
have beavers. They have European beavers, which are a little smaller than our
North American beavers. But that's all I got I don't I'm not very up
to date in the whole raby scene out There's no no I gotcha. I
was just curious to say if you knew, And to be fair, I
didn't even know how to pronounce the name of the country. So hey,
we learned something though. Together. This is what it is all about.
We're all learning. You teach me things every day. Hey, and you
just taught me a thing exactly. See. This is why this is great,
isn't it lovely? So here's another thing to learn. Beavers don't live
in their dams. Oh wait, I think I know why I make them.
Yeah, oh god, I just wouldna have said that. I'm scared,
all right. I think they like slower moving water, so they make
the dams to keep the river or stream or wherever they are from, like
being flashed fast flowing or I didn't take another gas. No, no,
from the look on your face, it's just the blank stare. No's correct.
They make dams to stop or impede water flow so that it floods an
area, so it makes the water deeper, and they can then build a
lodge, which is what they live in. So the lodges. Yeah,
so the lodges only have underwater entrances, so it is really protective against any
predators like I don't know, mountains, anythings, wolves, literally anything else
that doesn't swim. Minks, I'm sure mess them up because minks are very
ferocious, any sort of weasel, very ferocious predators. I wouldn't say that.
I would just say that they're really good at what they do, and
what they do is kill everything nice. I love them. You gotta love
a mustlid. So, oh, muscleids are weasels. I appreciate that.
I had no idea, gotcha. So, and they're called that because likes
You know, how skunks have that scent gland. I do. Muscleids also
have that scent gland, but unlike skunks, they cannot aim it no shit.
Mm hm. So they're still stinky, but not like spray you in
the face stinky. So if you have like a pet ferret or pet mink
or something like that, can you have those removed or do they kind of
exist forever and you have to make sure you don't scare your musclid. Uh,
you can't have a pet mink because they're uh, what's the word for
it, nasty? I guess nice, Like, yeah, you don't want
one. Because also, if you own a ferret, why why do you
do that? Tell you they bite so much and they smell so much.
Okay, but she's not like a fur snake, a furry snake. Okay,
a ferret is like a cat and a snake had a baby. And
if they're so slippery, they bite you run around, they're very smelly.
So I don't Personally, I don't know, just because I've never cared about
owning a ferret because all the ones I've met had bitten me a lot,
and I don't like it. So I don't know, but I know that
they either way that they stink, so cool take that with a grain of
salt. So, speaking of stink, you want to talk about, you
want to talk about beaver castorium. Yes, okay, whatever the hell that
is. You didn't have an option. Beavers have a cast or sack.
Well. Also, just to back up, so the name of the scientific
name of the North American beaver is cast or canadensis. So they have a
cast or sack, which is a sack near their butt, and they secrete
a liquid from it, and that's what they used to mark their territories.
However, it happens to smell like a birch tree or leather. Okay.
And and when you dilute it in alcohol, and no, not the drinking
kind of alcohol, it happens to smell like vanilla. Do you know where
I'm going with this air fresheners. No. For the past eighty years,
it has been used in some foods, and the FDA considers it quote generally
safe to consume. No, that gross. When it's listed in food,
it's just called natural flavoring and they don't necessarily have to tell you what it
is. Oh no. And it's most often used like to enhance raspberry and
strawberry flavoring. So no, I just had a salter earlier. Is it
in there? Yeah? Your white claw does. In fact, contain beaver
anal secretions. I'm kidding. I don't know that for a fact. It's
actually not super widely used anymore, just because it's a gross to extract for
the person and the beaver. But it's still you can we make our own
seltzer, just name it beaver anal, like make sure this stuff is in
there. I don't think that's a thing a lot of people would want.
I don't know, like if you were watching through gross name If we're gonna
walk through like a liquor store and we see something that says beaver yan long,
I have to buy it, like I'm gonna pick. I need to
know. I will say I will buy any sort of beer that has a
fish or a bird or an animal on it. It's all about the marketing.
I don't know how many people will drink a drink that says anal on
it, though, but we only need them to try it once. If
we get everyone in America try it once, we'll be millionaires. I fully
support you in your independ endeavor. To make this, I need you to
be an investor. I sorry, I have to go, oh okay,
well this is fun, so anyway, forget whatever I do have more to
say besides the beaver anal, Oh my god, I hope this does not
become a thing. Please go kind like a double entendre there, because,
oh my god, Nick, we'll leave that one there. We have to
fucking get rid of to go back to beaver's making damns. So, have
you ever heard of them called like an ecosystem engineer or a keystone species?
I know of those terms, I don't. I've never heard it as in
relation to a beaver. Yeah, So they're called that because they modify their
habitat so much so because they dam rivers or other moving bodies of water up
and it creates essentially beaver ponds. A lot of other animals will use those.
So there's certain types of salamanders and certain types of frogs that will use
those. There's certain birds and mammals that really like beaver ponds for different reasons
and whatnot. So they could be really important for an ecosystem in fostering biodiversity.
So are you aware that we murdered a whole bunch of them a long
time ago? Yes? I am, Yeah. Do you remember what for?
They're pelts? Yeah? Do you remember what we did with them?
Sold them to Europe did. It's honestly a whole thing, and I'm pretty
sure we talked about this for weeks and weeks and weeks in like high school
history class. Beaver pelts are being traded long before white Europeans came over here,
so pre Columbus, other indigenous peoples were trading them between tribes. But
then good old white Europeans came over and we're like, we like that and
we're gonna kill all of them. Yeah, these beaver hats were into it,
and then all of Europe was like, hell, yeah, that's the
new So nineteenth century bam, beaver hats all the rage. And because white
Europeans came over, they were able to bring that beaver pelt slash beaver hat
trade over to Europe as well, so it really expanded the whole market.
So it was just really booming what's the word industry. Yeah, it was
this really booming industry. And originally there was like forty to sixty million beavers
in North America, which is crazy to think about, but we quickly brought
those numbers down. So what really I mean, this is kind of the
thing with any sort of you know, pelt trading is very it fluctuates a
lot, so styles in Europe changed in mid nineteenth century and no more beaver
hats were wanted or needed. So that means all of the indigenous peoples that
were reliant on the fur trade, which was inevitably crushed in Europe, all
those people were like shunted it into poverty. Indigenous peoples who might have been
making a lot of money or had like a really luxurious trade business and might
have held some sort of political power because of it, not anymore, because
Europe was like, silk is cool, We're gonna do that instead forever,
goodbye. It took us a while, but now we have upwards of four
million beavers in America, which like sounds like it's really still not a lot,
but it's way better than having zero. So yeah, I'm pretty sure.
Like people say that the beaver trade is what funded the western expansion in
that time, it was really important. Yeah, yeah, we ran out
of beavers in the northeast, so they had to keep moving west to go
kill as many as they pass we can. Yeah, which is it's crazy
how important beavers were to us, similar to bison. In my head,
like there were two such important animals and so iconic in North America and we
just wipe them all out. Yeah, which I mean, at least we
use the beavers for stuff, but eventually we just killed bison just because,
just because so they're big and cool. Yeah, We're like, let's run
them all off the cliffs. Correct. Yeah, yeah, which I've mentioned
in the rabies episode and the coyote episode. But Dan Flores, who wrote
Coyote America, he also has a book called American Serengetti, and it's fascinating
to learn about the whole history with all the big animals in North America.
It's also horrifying. But either way, I think if we're to circle back
to the attacks that happened that we talked about, I mean, three out
of four of them were confirmed rabies cases and the last one was more or
less a mistake. Yeah. I mean we also don't even know like it
could have been. But let's just assume the guy got too close. Yeah,
so we mentioned before, but beavers are territorial, so if you get
too close to their space, they will slap their tail to keep you away.
So basically that's it. Just don't approach them and if they slap their
tail, you're too close and move away. That's it. They're really easy
to live around. Yeah No, I mean, like, really, how
close do you need to be to a beaver to be for it to be
uncomfortable? You just have to be in its area? Like if it owns
like a pond, do you have to just like be away from that pond?
Is it just when you're near the beaver itself, Like I don't even
know what it would be. Yeah, So not necessarily, you don't have
to be like just in its area per se. I mean, I've had
friends who have stood on like the bank of a river and taken a video
of a beaver swimming by. So one, I think it depends on the
individual. Two, I think it depends on what you are doing. So
if you're just standing there and like not doing anything, one, the beaver
might not even see you, and two it might just not care or think
that you're a threat. So yeah, once again, I think it really
depends on the beaver. I personally have never seen a beaver on land.
I don't know if I have, I can't remember. I feel like you
would remember if you'd seen the beaver on land. Maybe I don't know.
I don't know, so, I mean, I think the odds of running
into them are pretty slim anyways. And then there is a website that I
will link to because I think it's really good if you're having issues of beavers.
So I kind of I've coached some people through beaver issues. They tend
to be complicated because a lot of people who are experiencing issues with beavers it's
because they're flooding their property. A differs state by state, but depending on
what you can do depends on if the beaver's physically on your property. So
if it's living in a protected natural area near your home and the dam is
there, there's not a thing you can really do about it. So that's
kind of where the conflicts come into play with beavers. It's less of beaver's
attacking people, more of their dam's kind of disrupting things or washing out roadways
and whatnot. So there's this website called Beaverinstitute dot org, and they have
a lot of information on how you can prevent tree damage or beaver dam flooding
on your property or like road culverts that are blocked. But I'll give you
the quick rundown. So if you are experiencing beaver damage on your property,
whether that be well, I guess let's start with trees. So if there's
beavers around there coming on your property and cutting down your trees that you don't
want them to cut down, super easy, wrap the base of the tree
in aluminum flashing. Do you know what aluminum flashing is. No, i'd
say just luminfoil like you get from the grocery store. No, it's basically
like just those sheets of metal and wrap it. Yeah, you just wrap
it tight around the base of the tree. Because beavers can't climb and also
chew, they cannot chew through like slick metal. So bottom ban, bottom
boom, your trees are protected. Hell yeah. If a if a beaver,
if he if a beaver is flooding your property and its dam is on
your property or a property that you owned, whatever, you can actually install
what it's called a beaver pipe. So essentially it's like a PVC pipe,
I'm sure it's like a little more specialized than that, and you can put
it through the dam so that way doesn't fully dismantle the dam, but it
still allows water to flow through. Okay, So yeah, so there's that.
I mean, I think, at least in our state, trappers are
a little more willing to relocate beavers just because you know they're making a comeback,
so there's not a ton of them, so they're willing to relocate them
more often than not. But you have to relocate beavers such a far distance
so they won't just walk right back, and the odds of so if there's
a good spot for a beaver, the odds of another beaver being there is
pretty high. So finding a good spot for a beaver that doesn't already have
a beaver in it is pretty slim. So if you're just relocating an animal
and throwing it somewhere where there's already a beaver, they're probably gonna fight to
the death. So are you really helping it? Probably not, But yes,
I mean beavers did and do help to prevent erosion of streams, and
they also create wetlands, so they can be really important in an ecosystem.
And I think people just inherently like see the water rising and just immediately get
annoyed and want them gone. But they can do a lot of good for
the places that they're in. So check out Beaver Institute dot org. They
have a lot of good information and specifically checking in with the laws and regulations
in your state will be helpful too, because I'm sure they differ everywhere.
So let's say you do have a beaver inter property and you don't want it
there, and it hasn't like established a damn and stuff yet, do you
know ways you can like deter them from picking your area or are they pretty
determined that when they find the spot they want, like they are making their
shit there. I would say they're pretty determined, but I also don't know
how you would deter a beaver. So to me, it's similar when someone
has a porcupine on their property and they want it gone. You can't harass
a porcupine because not a lot messes with the porcupine. They just don't care.
They're like what, you can honestly want to get porcupine and like nudge
it with your foot and it'll be like eh and then just walk on.
They actually do sound like that. If you've never heard of porcupine, please
God look it up. It's so precious. Yeah, I don't think that
there's a lot you can do to like harass them away, because if you
have a good pond, you have a good pond. All you can really
do is protect your trees that you own to prevent them from using those and
their damn and they're lodges and whatnot. Other than that, I mean,
the speaker's gonna bev. You know, Beaver's gonna bev Yep, yep.
Do you have any other questions? Oh, do you have any numbers on
like how common beaver tacks are? Like, I know I've ever been through
the story and everything, but it kind of curious. Honestly, the attacks
I presented to you in this story were like the major stories I could find
because it's just doesn't really happen, and when it does, it's usually rabies.
And then also, I mean I wouldn't even say that they go unreported
because it's such a weird animal to attack people that I'm sure it makes the
news every single time that happens, yeah, which is not often at all.
So it kind of goes back to the rabies episode, like, there's
not a lot you can do to protect yourself from rabies besides be aware of
the signs and make sure that that animal gets tested, especially if you come
into contact with it. So hell yeah, yeah, cool, Well that's
all I got, yeah, and that's all I got. So, like
Nick and I mentioned the last episode, we knew this is going to be
kind of a short one. I don't know if it's I don't know if
any of the things we talk about are fun necessarily, but it's definitely an
interesting special fun talking about them. That's the important part. Always have fun
talking with the amount of things that are being cut from this episode, oh
it'd been awesome bonus. You can imagine the things Nick has said in an
episode talking about beavers, and I won't say any more than that it's been
fun. Our next episode will come out in another two weeks. Once again,
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