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It's time for Coffee and Company,
fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine

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day. Now here's Nick Coffee.
If you are here to get an update

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on the PGA Championship over in Valhalla, Apologies, I'm not one that would

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be able to give you that,
but we are going to talk to Ken

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Spencer coming up here at w h
as eleven. I mean, we're not

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going to talk to him there.
That's where he that's where he works,

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but he's gonna be vis at four
thirty and he is there at Valhalla covering

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it, and I'm obviously not gonna
ask him a ton of questions about you

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know. I mean, we'll get
an update as far as how how the

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event's going, as far as you
know, who's who's off to a great

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start. But I'm more interested just
because I'm not like a super golf fan.

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I'm more interested in just how are
we doing a good job as a

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city as far as like showing the
PGA that we should get more of these

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kind of events, and it seems
like we are. But again, Kent

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will be with us to discuss that
in about thirty minutes or so. It

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is Coffee and Company. We are
fuel about Thornton's heirero on Sports Talk seven

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ninety. We did talk a little
earlier about the addition. That was yesterday,

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about twenty four hours ago. I
guess it became official that Connie Ruth's

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the Kahani Ruths. I should say
not Connie, but Kahani Ruths is in

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the mix here, the only freshman
at this point that's committed to Pat Kelsey

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and they have, I believe now
just two scholarships left, and he's the

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eighth highest ranked recruit to ever commit
to Louisville. Which I bring that up

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for a couple of reasons. One, if you had a guy like this

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pre portal, that world of college
basketball that no longer exists like this would

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be monumental and it is a good
get that people are excited about. But

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now it's about getting guys in the
portal that have played college basketball that you

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kind of have a better feel for
what you're gonna get. But it also

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reminds me of like I mean,
Louisville has had many guy like Louisville's a

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program that I would say the dudes
who were ranked really really really high coming

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out of high school. The majority
of them didn't you know, didn't have

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I mean some of them didn't play
here because they went to the NBA,

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and then some of them. You
know, we're good players, but far

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from great. So I am a
little curious to see when we get,

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you know, seven eight years into
the portal, just how different it is

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when it comes to recruiting freshmen,
because it's going to play out to where

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there's going to be I mean,
there's going to be a case study,

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right, like, hey, we
recruited a top ten class for seven straight

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years, but did we get anything
out of it? Right? As a

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freshman? Could they compete and help
us right away? And if they did

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help us a little bit, but
not a whole lot, we were hoping

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that the next year they'd be a
big time player, but nope, they

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hit the portal or they went to
the NBA. Like, I can't imagine

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there's ever going to be a time
where you don't recruit freshmen. But I

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just you know, if I was
a coach, I mean, I would

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make it to where, you know, at least a third of my roster

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every year is guys that I went
out and recruited as free agents essentially,

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all Right, so we played some
sound just a moment ago from the ACC

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spring meetings where Pat Kelsey did a
couple of interviews and this I don't know

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if this was yesterday. I think
I think it was yesterday because Daboswinny was

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making his rounds and you know,
Dabo's Dabo, and I actually forgot to

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get to this yesterday. But now
we actually have some sound from it,

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so I guess we'll back up to
what he said two days ago on ESPN

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about I mean, this is harmless. We know dabo stance on the portal.

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He's been very, very upfront.
He does not believe in it.

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He's not ever taken a kid from
the portal. So it's not like he's

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saying something that you you know,
your jaw hits the floor. But just

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think about if another coach said this
like what they're what his fan base would

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would how they would react. Well, it wasn't really necessarily like an intentional

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thing. There's a couple of guys
we looked at, but you know,

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they got to love you too.
But it also tells us you like where

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you're around, You like, yeah, that's what That's what the other part

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of it. And and honestly,
every player is technically a transfer. You

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know, we just signed a whole
class of guys transferred from high school.

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Like that's I mean, that's again
because it's Dabbo. You know, that's

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just like his nil response from a
few years ago. It's Dabbo being Dabbo.

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But again, Clemson, it's like
a cult man, like they're weird.

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Every fan base of college football knows
how important the portal is. They

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may it, they may you know, wish that it wasn't allowed. And

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there are many coaches, there are
many, you know, fans of college

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sports that think that nil and the
portal has ruined everything. But you know,

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regardless of what you think about it, you know it's important you have

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to do well in that in that
world, meaning maintaining your roster, keeping

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guys that you want that have value, not letting them get away, and

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going out and filling spots when guys
leave. So, I mean, this

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is Dabo, just flat out.
And it's still new, So I don't

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think it's it seems as out.
You know, two reasons why it doesn't

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seem as crazy to some as it
does to me is that it's still new.

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Also, it's dabos so you're not
surprised. But this is a guy

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basically admitting he's not going like he's
not doing part of his job, and

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he's stubborn and consistent. There's no
doubt about that. And then he said

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this, and again, I just
think Dabo's still saying things like he's coming

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off of, you know, two
national championships in a row or something,

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which he never did that. But
I mean, they won two titles in

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what three four years, and they
were really rolling and now you know,

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there's still good, Like it kind
of wowed me a little bit when I

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looked at their their I mean,
they've had double digit winning season. They

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didn't last year they went nine and
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know what. I think it might
have been nine and four. It was

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the first time in like eleven twelve
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So, like, they're still very
good, but they're not in the elite

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tier and they're not really close and
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They're probably going to keep falling.
With the way he with the way he

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handles this, but he talks as
if he's got you know, five rings

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on his hand that were recent national
championships because this is I mean, he

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says, most of the guys in
the portal aren't good enough to play for

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Clemson. There's three types of players
in the portal. I mean, it's

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really pretty simple. Most of the
guys in the portal aren't good enough to

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play for us. Yeah. Yeah, that's just like, that's just the

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reality of it. I mean,
we have guys that are backups at Clemson

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that go in the portal because they
just want to have an opportunity. And

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most of them are graduates, by
the way, but have guys that are

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backups or you know, they want
a chance to go play And I got

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no problem with that, and so
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Uh So, you know, that's
you've got the majority of the guys,

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they're guys that are in the portal
because they want to have a chance

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to go start somewhere. They're not
playing where they are. I mean,

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it's such a small minded way to
look at it, because that's actually not

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like when you think about how many
players enter the portal, it's probably true

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to say that most of them aren't
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to be an impact player for you
at a power power four level, Like,

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I don't think that's crazy. But
he doesn't even look at the port

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He doesn't he's he's he It's one
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open to it, but doesn't decide
to take guys. I mean that that

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would also be really stupid. But
you know, you think there aren't guys

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that are in the portal that could
help you and and and you know,

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could participate in your four and four
season that you just had in the ACC.

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I mean, that's just he's not
saying anything like totally controversial. He's

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not, you know, being an
a hole, But he's just such a

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unique character within college football. I
think that's the best way to describe it.

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If he ever falls far enough to
be let go by Clemson, obviously

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there will be coaches or schools that
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But do you think at that point
he would adjust or what they would

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be dab but they would do it
thinking well, I mean if we can

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get him, we have to.
But yeah, I mean, we know

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we're not getting what you know,
he's not. It's like Cal, you

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know Cal, you know, did
you know lean on the portal this year,

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and you know he did last year
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you know, cal Perry bringing in
the number one class in the country every

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year. It's not doesn't mean now
what it used to because things have changed.

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So Dabo, he's still doing things
like it's twenty and seventeen and it's

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not. And you know, yeah, he'd land somewhere. And I will

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never know this, but I believe
that if he would have adjusted an adapted,

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just like everybody else in college football
did, right, Nick Saban Kirby

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smart Right, things changed and those
guys didn't miss a beat. Had Dabo

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done that, I believe they still
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would have been in the elite tier
with more playoff appearances. Right. I

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don't know if they won another championship, but they'd still be a frequent participant

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in the playoff in the last three
four years. I believe that. And

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if that's the case, he's Alabama's
coach. I agree with you because he

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played there and he he you know, for for a little while. There

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wasn't a long run. But you
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and il some would have some people
would have told you that Dabo Dabo had

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had surpassed uh Nick Saban. So
you know, I just have a hard

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time like they're never gonna be terrible. They're never gonna be you know,

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IM not gonna fall off a cliff. But if I'm a Clemson fan,

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like, I don't know, if
you, I don't know how you would

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like not want this guy. He
won you two national championships, but it

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would be alarming to see that he's
just clearly not adjusting and adapting. And

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usually when you don't do that,
especially when things drastically change, it's it's

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it's it's gonna bite you. All
right, Let's talk about something that makes

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people uncomfortable, at least some people, tipping at restaurants, gratuity. I

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think it's always a sensitive subject with
certain people because there are some that are

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tipping elitists. That's what I call
him John. They may they probably don't

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tip as well as they claim,
but they're always always like, if you

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can't tip twenty five percent, then
you don't even need to be going out

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to eat. You know, somebody
can you know, take your cup,

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turn around, fill up the fountain, drink, give it back to you

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and if you didn't tip. I'm
like, we're the tipping elitists. Never

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consider the fact like okay, is
this something that should be tipped for?

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They just assume, like why was
you even question that? Did you see

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how hard they're working? There was
a pandemic like they're just trying to make

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a look like those I don't know
if you know any of those people,

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but they're out there and they annoy
me. And I am somebody that I

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usually tip at least twenty percent and
I sometimes probably shouldn't. I am also

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willing to admit that I would never
want to be known as the guy that

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people claim is not like I don't
think of people are out, you know,

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having a small talk at a bar. Did you hear nick coffee doesn't

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tip? But like I'm aware,
like you know, I don't want people

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to think that I'm like, you
know, not taking care of servers who

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work hard and do a good job. And for the most part, I'm

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not that tough to please, Like
I rarely would ever feel like, well,

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I need to consider how much I'm
going to tip here because they didn't

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do a very good job. So
it's not that I'm anti tipping, but

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I get annoyed whenever it just becomes
like a you know that no matter what,

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you have to do this, and
if you don't, you aren't.

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You're not like you're you aren't worthy
of even being in a restaurant and having

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a server. And one conversation that's
been had many times that I don't know

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if there's no like I guess,
I mean, everybody has their own opinion

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of it. But if I go
to pick up carry out and you hand

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me the bag and you have,
you know, put the food in the

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bag and I never get carry out. We did it during like COVID a

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few times because it's all we could
do. But I don't think the food's

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ever as good when you take it
home after you get it, like a

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sit down restaurant, it's just not
worth it for me, especially what it

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costs now. But should they is
it? Like when did it become a

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thing to where you're asked to tip
them because you know, in my opinion,

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like if you tip them whatever,
that's cool. I feel the pressure

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to tip them at times and I
think, like I guess I'm gonna be

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that. I don't want to be
that guy to not tip so by getting

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it to go. You've kind of
chosen to take out what you would then

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tip for, which is being taken
care of. Am I making sense here?

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Perfect? I've I can. I've
never tipped carry out, and I

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do carry out a lot compared to
actually going and sitting down. I do

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tip every time, like you whenever
I'm going to sit down restaurant. But

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I believe during COVID, whenever,
there was no way to really tip people.

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That's why that became a thing.
And it became a thing where like

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you would get it and add like
a very generous tip, But it wasn't

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because it was because that was the
only way they could make moneys. And

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that made sense back, Yeah,
it did. But this is no different

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than going up to a drive through, which is also something that sometimes,

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depending on where you're at, they'll
give you the receipt and they'll give you

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a kid to sign something. Are
you kidding me? Dead? Seriously?

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Not every place, geez, And
this I don't even know if this really

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qualify. Actually, here's what I
got two and I don't I don't want

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to. I don't want to talk
bad about these places, so I won't

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give their names. There's a place
in he'llvy and there's a place in Mount

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Washington that do it? Is it
fast food? One of them is a

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coffee shop, and one of them's
a pizza place. Okay, yeah,

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I mean I just think putting like
if it if putting the tip on the

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receipt when it's never something anybody'd ever
tip before. To me, just screams,

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we'll see if they're suckers and do
it. That's that's and that bothers

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me. But you know what,
I'm a sucker, I guess because occasionally

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I feel bad now. Also,
I you know people who who serve at

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restaurants and I don't even mean like
fine dining. You can make a really

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good living. I'm not sure you're
not. You know, it's not like

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you're living, you know, in
a million dollar home, but like you

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can make a like it's to say
that, you know, And that's what

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I mean by some of the tipping
elitists. They act as if like why

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would you not be very generous?
They're working hard, Like it's almost like

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you're you're trying to belittle them,
so then people should give Like no,

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you don't need to do that.
Like and here's the other thing. If

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if these people are working so hard, which most of them are. The

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companies that they work for need to
pay them better because the problem is a

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lot of these workers at these restaurants
don't get paid very well. They were

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lost so heavily on tip. I
mean, they make like two bucks an

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hour. Here's the thing. And
I've never been a server, and I

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know it's it's I mean, I
wouldn't be good at it, and it

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is a hard job. It's not
something that like anybody can just do and

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be good at it. So I
I understand that. But I know a

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few of them that have said that
if it ever was a thing where tips

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were not it and you were just
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because they wouldn't make near the money. So, you know, I bring

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all this up because of something that
happened last night at a restaurant that I

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went to. And I'm not going
to mention where it is. And I've

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had complaints about this place before,
and yet I still go every now and

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then because it's good. I'll start
with what happened a few years ago,

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and I still maintain this is insane. We ordered an appetizer and it was

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chips and Q so it is not
a Mexican restaurant. But they offered,

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like a lot of places offered chips
and kso that's not a Mexican restaurant,

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right, Like many places, it's
an appetizer on a lot of places that's

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not just for Mexican or text mex
or whatever. So we ordered KSO and

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you know, they give you the
typical you know, actually what they did

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here is that it's a basket of
chips and in the middle of the basket

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is like, you know, the
thing of the cheese. So you know,

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there's there's enough chips, but you
know, we ran out of chips

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and we asked for more chips and
it was a four dollars charge for more

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chips. That insane to me,
absolutely insane. Of so, we talked

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about it on the show years ago
when it happened, and I don't think

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anybody took the side of the restaurant
as if, like, you know,

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that was normal, although you know
a lot of people were like, give

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them a break, they're just trying
to make a living. And I'm like,

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well, okay, I mean that
that doesn't have anything to do with

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what I'm talking about. But like
that's just not normal. So what you're

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paying for is the cheese. So
the one excuse was that, well,

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because they don't sell a lot of
that, they need to charge for the

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chip. Well, then don't offer
it, like you know what I'm saying,

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Like, don't offer tab chips and
case. So if you're gonna charge,

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because I would be willing to bet
that that most people would not order

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that if they knew that was the
case, because you oftentimes, especially if

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you're sharing the case, so with
your table, you're gonna run out of

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the chips fairly quickly. I mean, like, if my wife and I

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go and we get a small case
so somewhere that's will probably not need more

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chips. Now, if there's salts
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like that was insane to me,
Like the first time I feel like I

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was ever Like, you can't be
you're you're you're not real. It's not

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you're not You're not being serious,
are you. So we went there last

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night with my with my mom,
my stepdad, my two kids, and

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me and my wife. So there's
six of us, you know, two

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two of the two of the people
don't order the food themselves, their children

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and they split a kid's meal.
That's usually what our kids get at dinner.

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They'll they'll split something on the kids
menu and they'll be that'll be just

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enough food for them. So that's
six people total. Technically, they don't

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tell you, but if you have
six people there, they automatically include your

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tip and it's nowhere where you can
see it without looking at the fine print.

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I think that's deceiving. I think
that's misleading. I think that's lame

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because the majority of the people would
not know that you've already included you tip

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unless they're looking at it, unless
you're and look, maybe I mean,

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I'm probably the idiot. In fact
I am. I rarely look. I

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look at the bill and you know, make sure nothing really stands out,

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but rarely will I go, you
know, line by line and see if

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they were charging me correctly. I
have a feeling John does the opposite,

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because yeah, it depends on what
I've ordered. But you know, it's

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it's like an it's like an abbreviation. It doesn't say that that's the tip.

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You ask them and then and then
they'll tell you. And then you

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go to the menu and you'll see
in the fine print at the bottom of

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the first page of their menu.
Parties of six gratuity will already be inclosed.

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I just think that that's that's a
small amount to have an auto gratuity.

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Not only that, but we have
too, I mean again, like

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we only mean we only ordered six, true, we only ordered we only

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ordered six. Like you're not like, my kids aren't asking you for anything.

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The only thing you're doing is bringing
their kids meal and you know,

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their their drink. Not to say
that you're not, you know, not

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to say that you're not like they
don't matter, but like two parts of

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that one, it's just lame to
kind of sneak that in there. Also

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also the you know, I just
you know, six is not a big

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group of people. It's just not
that's three. I mean that's a family,

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honestly, Like I think ten or
more is the minimum for I could

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do eight, depending on where you
are, Like I could see that being

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you know, I can understand that. But you know, at Churchill Downs

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opening night, one of my buddies
Dad's was there, and he went and

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bought a big round of drinks for
people. It was we were celebrating somebody's

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birthday, so he bought the first
round of drinks. So it was like,

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I don't know. At the bar
there at Churchill, he bought like

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eight beers like or maybe like five
beers a seltzer wine and they didn't tell

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him, but he got the bill, and like, when you get alcohol

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at a place like Churchill Downs on
Derby week, like you're probably probably gonna

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take a substantial number for you to
be like, damn, that can't be

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right because again, like alcohol is
expensive at those kind of events or that

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in that week it's opening night.
Well then you know he tipped on like

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the receipt because you know that's what
you should do. But he doesn't get

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back to you know, he gets
back and he's thinking, like, man,

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that really was expensive. He gets
out the receipt and sure enough,

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at the very bottom, the smallest
text on the receipt, it shows that

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he was charged gratuity because of how
many how many drinks he was sort of

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ordered. There's one dude ordering it
and you know you're walking to the refrigerator

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and pulling out it, like they're
not even serving you draft beer. So

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I just I don't know, like
at the end of the day, like

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it's not a substantial amount of money, but it's just seems deceiving. It's

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robbery. Yeah, maybe that's being
traumatic, but no, but I think

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a lot of people would say the
same thing. So I don't know.

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I just I said that yesterday whenever
I realized that they like that, that

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that the tip was already included.
And I'm like, I'm talking about this

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on the show because I will say
this, I feel like gratuity and tipping

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is something that regardless of where you
stand, I think a lot of people

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have strong opinions on it one way
or the other. And again for those

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just not joining us, you should
always tip well if you're taking care of

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and you should understand that like that
is how people make a living. And

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fortunately for me, I've usually had
pretty good service to great service to where

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like I'm happy to tip because the
experience was good because of said server or

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bartender or whatever it may be.
And and by the way, all these

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things, it's not the people who
are serving you. It's the court,

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it's the restaurant. It's the corporations
that are doing that are doing this lame

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stuff, you know, because they
don't want to pay it. Yeah,

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all right, quick break, we'll
come back on the other side and try

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to catch up with our man,
mister Kent Spencer of WHS eleven, who's

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live at the PGA Championship right here
on Sports Talk seven ninety. It's right

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Coffee and Company Field by Thornton's here
on Sports Talk seven ninety, rolling along

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about halfway through here on a Thursday
afternoon, and we now bring in our

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special guest, mister Kent Spencer from
w h AS eleven, Kent. How

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are we doing today, brother buddy. I'm hanging out at Mahall at the

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PGA Championship. I don't know if
I could be doing much better. I

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was hoping you'd say that because I
was going to ask you. I know,

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as someone who played sports, I'm
sure your whole life growing up and

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now you have a successful career where
sports is a big part of it,

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you know. I know, you
know you're fortunate, but when it comes

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to events that really you know you
just enjoy, you know, covering,

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I'm sure there's many of them,
but where does this one rank for you?

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I know you're a big golf guy
yourself, and obviously this is a

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big, big deal, you know, honestly, like when people say what

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is the best event you've ever covered
in your life. I always tell people

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that it was the two thousand and
eight Ryder Cup, and that occurred before

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or I ever ever even picked up
a golf club and started trying to play

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it on a regular release. Yeah. No, it was just like,

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you know, imagine like the most
raucous college football atmosphere that you can think

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of, and just put it on
a golf course. That was that oa

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Ryder Cup. You know, team
USA versus Team Europe and the passion and

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you know, back in the day, you know, we had all kinds

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of access where you could, you
know, you could kind of you know,

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move around a lot, a lot
better than you can nowadays. But

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yeah, and it's not even like, to be honest with you, like,

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there's not even a close second like
that. It was that fun to

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cover that event. Well, I
think it's even cooler to hear that like

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that got you more interested in the
sport to where you decided you were gonna,

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you know, pick up a club, start playing and stuff. So

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that is cool, buddy, It
wasn't It wasn't even that event. Like

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I didn't even start playing after that
event. I just enjoyed it so much.

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But then now that the twenty fourteen
PGA was when like, all right,

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I'm I've got a little bit of
the bug and I need to get

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better. I'll tell you a story. I was so bad at golf,

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and sometimes, you know, you
get invited to play in these these golf

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scrambles for events, and people would
shake your hand and be like, oh,

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great, a, we're gonna have
a lot of fun. And then

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you start hitting shots and they're like, well, this isn't so much fun

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because you're not gonna help us today. Oh do do you just dis That's

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happened to me enough to where now
I just have to say, look,

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I appreciate it. I can't I'm
not gonna be in Volde. I can't

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do it. I'm not good.
It will be bad experience for everybody involved.

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I was playing in a golf scramble
one time and Denny Crumb was in

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our group, but coach at the
time he couldn't play because he had some

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sort of an injury. He still
played golf, but he just didn't play

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at that particular time because he had
an injury. And we're probably on the

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back nine of this round and I
am just awful. I would describe myself

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as the worst golfer on the planet
at the time. And he says to

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me, he goes, now,
can't what you want to do is you

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just want to hit it to the
back of that green and that slope will

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just bring it right down to the
to the hole. As I'm standing over

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top of it and I and I
couldn't take it anymore. I literally come

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up. I look at him.
I said, coach, you've been with

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me all day. You know,
I don't know where this is going to

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go. If he looked at me, and he laughed and he goes,

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I know, he goes, I
just got to do what I gotta do.

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Man, how did you I mean, you know, from I understand,

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I know you guys, you know
the the you guys are technically competitors,

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but you know, the guys in
the TV market that do sports,

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you guys are also friends in golf
together. People tell me, you're like,

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really good. When did it?
When did it kind of click for

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you where you felt like, you
know, you really turned the corner.

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I don't know if I'm I don't
know if I'm really good. I have

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I have good days. Well compared
to those guys, than you are.

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I guess I still have awful days, but it's it's kind of one of

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those things where I just really enjoyed
it and just kind of started putting some

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time on it. I got some
lessons and and when I'm hitting it good,

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can I hit it pretty good?
Yeah? I can get it out

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there a little bit. Yeah.
I I usually play a few times each

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year, and each time I get
a little more comfortable. Even if I

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you know, don't have a score
that I'm proud of and it's maybe not

407
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as good as the last time.
It's just, you know, the more

408
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repetition, the more the more comfortable
you get with it. But no doubt

409
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golf fans for me, For me, as somebody you know who play sports

410
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growing up, a good golf shot
nowadays it replaces sometimes a big basket I

411
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would hit in the game, and
sometimes it replaces, you know, the

412
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big catch I had in a football
game. Does that make sense? Absolutely?

413
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And I'm sure there's many people that
play the play golf for that.

414
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But it's something yeah, and you
can compete with yourself. Yeah, totally

415
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with you. So before we get
to the early results here, how would

416
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you say you know the city is
doing as a host here because you know,

417
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obviously I'm a little bit biased,
but I feel like, you know,

418
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from all the coverage, rather it
be locally from you guys or the

419
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national folks that are here. I
mean, I feel like we're kind of

420
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doing doing our thing to show the
PGA that they know that it's good for

421
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them to bring an event like this
to Valhalla. Well, here's what I

422
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here's what I think. I think, once again, I think we've knocked

423
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it out of the park. And
and so I've been here every day since

424
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Monday, and this is obviously the
busiest day that it's that it's been.

425
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But I personally think, and i'm
biased to I think we've knocked it out

426
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of the park. And look,
if they don't want to bring one back

427
00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:26.119
here, that's fine, that's fine, but at least make it a very

428
00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:30.720
difficult decision, because obviously, when
it comes to these things, you know

429
00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:34.680
they're decided so far in a dance. I mean, I think right now

430
00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:38.400
they only have two open dates,
which is twenty thirty two and twenty thirty

431
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three. I mean, at the
moment, twenty thirty four is already spoken

432
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for, so you know, the
windows are windows are small man just make

433
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it hard for him. Yeah,
I I mean that reminds me of when

434
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you don't see it as much anymore. I think COVID changed it a little

435
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bit when people realized, you know, in college sports, you don't need

436
00:27:56.880 --> 00:28:00.880
to schedule a game fifteen years out. But yeah, that's yeah, And

437
00:28:02.160 --> 00:28:03.599
I guess that's what's led to sort
of that being a talking point is you

438
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know, hopefully they'll come back,
but as you mentioned, there's not a

439
00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:10.319
whole lot of spots, uh that
are open. But uh, the how's

440
00:28:10.359 --> 00:28:12.240
it been for for Justin Thomas?
Obviously that's one of the storylines here.

441
00:28:12.279 --> 00:28:15.440
He's, you know, a very
successful golfer from Louisville, just recently had

442
00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:21.640
the hometown banner put up here in
Louisville and was very emotional. Has there

443
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been a lot of folks there that
are that you can since are just really

444
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you know, obviously there's a lot
of stars there and Tiger's going to move

445
00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:30.599
the needle like nobody else. But
can you sense the hometown love for Justin

446
00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:34.640
Thomas? There? Oh, look, one hundred percent. You know it

447
00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:38.720
started during the practice round days,
but even on on on today and he

448
00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:45.839
said that this has been so much
cooler and so much more enjoyable than he

449
00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:48.240
anticipated. And I think that he
thought it was going to be really cool

450
00:28:48.279 --> 00:28:52.960
and it's and it succeeded the expectations
so far. Obviously, he would have

451
00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:56.039
liked to have played just a little
bit better in the first round. You

452
00:28:56.039 --> 00:29:00.960
know, he shoots a he shoots
a two under. He played alongside the

453
00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:04.319
guy who broke the course record and
even a PGA Championship record for the lowest

454
00:29:04.359 --> 00:29:08.440
round ever was Xander Schoffley, who
shot at nine under sixty two. But

455
00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:12.599
here's the thing, it's the first
round. You can play yourself out of

456
00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:15.880
a tournament, but you can't win
it. Justin didn't play himself out of

457
00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:18.920
a tournament. He's seven shots back, but he's very much still in the

458
00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:23.599
thing. So I saw your story. He really enjoyed it the Tiger Woods,

459
00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:27.039
being back here at Louisville, and
obviously things are a lot different now

460
00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:33.279
than many many, many years ago. But I like when there are quotes

461
00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:37.240
from Tiger and soundclips that kind of, you know, humanize him a little

462
00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:38.880
bit. I think that's sort of
bit. He's been a polarizing figure in

463
00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:41.960
sports for quite some times, but
I feel like his legendary status has led

464
00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:45.720
to a lot of people just kind
of finding maybe I'm wrong. I know,

465
00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:48.200
I know our friend Lockla McCain will
never liked Tiger Woods, but I

466
00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:52.119
do think it seemed very genuine that
he does now so not take he doesn't

467
00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:56.720
take for granted the fact that he
is a larger than life star within the

468
00:29:56.720 --> 00:29:59.759
sport, and no matter where he
goes or how he plays, he's going

469
00:29:59.799 --> 00:30:03.400
to have fanfare that nobody else has. And I just I enjoyed hearing that

470
00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:06.480
he has kind of learned to appreciate
that over the years, because you know,

471
00:30:06.599 --> 00:30:07.839
for the most part, he's nowhere
near what he once was, but

472
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because he's Tiger, nobody will ever
fully count him out. And I think

473
00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:18.960
I think a big part of that
is he understands the window is closing and

474
00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:22.359
the opportunity to play in these kind
of things for him, just the way

475
00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:26.119
that his body is made up,
you know, he doesn't have much time

476
00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:30.640
left, and so I think he
kind of sees the end of the road.

477
00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:34.799
And I also see like when you
actually see it is when you appreciate

478
00:30:34.839 --> 00:30:38.799
the things around you, when you
actually can kind of look around and be

479
00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:42.200
in the moment a little bit more
than he was in the past. I

480
00:30:42.240 --> 00:30:45.759
mean, you can imagine, you
know, whether it was ten years ago

481
00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:48.279
or two thousand when he played here, he probably never thought that was ever

482
00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:52.359
going to end, like it was
just going to be this way his entire

483
00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:56.960
life. And now that he kind
of realizes that it's not and then it's

484
00:30:56.000 --> 00:31:00.440
coming close to an end, you
definitely do get the sense of that he

485
00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:03.359
appreciates things more. At least that's
what he says to the outside world.

486
00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:11.160
So in your in your career,
obviously you've been around some legendary athletes before

487
00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:14.400
they became stars, right, guys
who played here locally Louisville and UK or

488
00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:17.440
you know other events that you've that
you've covered. You know, Tiger's just

489
00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:19.400
different. I've never been around him
in person, probably never will be.

490
00:31:21.559 --> 00:31:22.960
You know, this may be a
corny question, but like what's it.

491
00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:26.400
I mean, you can probably sense
that he you know, not just from

492
00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:30.319
yourself, but just everybody there that
like Tiger Woods is kind of one of

493
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:33.799
one, Like I'm you know,
I don't think there's ever anybody that has

494
00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:37.440
been to their sport what Tiger is
to golf. And you know, just

495
00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:40.720
knowing he's been in Louisville for over
a week now, Like it's just it's

496
00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:45.519
different. Yeah, and and you
know, like on Monday, his practice

497
00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:48.880
round day, it was it was
crazy to see the flock of people that

498
00:31:49.039 --> 00:31:53.240
just rushed to the eighteen green to
see him kind of finishing up to be

499
00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:59.559
there, or the sea of people
that followed around on a Monday of a

500
00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:02.880
practice round, and so you can
imagine what today look like now. The

501
00:32:02.920 --> 00:32:07.680
only person, honestly this week that
is kind of trump Tiger a little bit

502
00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:12.839
was Rory McElroy when he showed up
and definitely for his presser the other day,

503
00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:15.759
only because first off, you know, Rory is that other guy in

504
00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:21.119
the sport that like he truly moves
the needle. And also he's got you

505
00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:24.319
know, he's got some things going
on kicking around with his personal life nowadays.

506
00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:29.000
That that everybody you know, and
it's weird. You know, so

507
00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:32.920
so many other sports you know that
that that doesn't even matter, but it

508
00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:38.519
feels like golfers and like NFL quarterbacks, that stuff really matters. What what

509
00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:43.400
happens outside of of the ropes are
off the plane. I've never thought about

510
00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:45.880
that, but that's absolutely right.
I've got an NBA player unless you know,

511
00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:49.720
unless you're like a super superstar,
Like that's something that you know,

512
00:32:49.759 --> 00:32:52.799
people may know if they follow closely. But yeah, golferga, you think

513
00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:55.000
it's because on the golf side that
it's just it's an individual thing to where

514
00:32:55.079 --> 00:32:58.359
you know, you're not part of
an eight man team, it's just you

515
00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:00.839
and if you are, I mean, as you mentioned, Roy Rory is

516
00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:02.400
a star. But yeah, we
actually talked about that on the show the

517
00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:06.079
other day, Like there's a lot
of things that come with being famous that

518
00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:09.240
are beneficial that you know, you
you probably enjoy that someone that's not famous

519
00:33:09.240 --> 00:33:14.079
wouldn't. And there's obviously some cons
too, but like your divorce being a

520
00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:15.559
big part of the cop I just
that feels gross to me. I don't.

521
00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:19.519
I mean, I'm sure they they're
not surprised, meaning celebrities of that

522
00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:22.160
status have their personal life stuff become
public, But I don't know. That's

523
00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:24.839
there's a level of the TMC stuff
that I'm just like, man, that's

524
00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:30.000
I would I would hate to be
that person. Yeah no, no,

525
00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:32.599
no, no, I mean,
and that's why it is so different.

526
00:33:32.680 --> 00:33:37.440
But in golf, it's that individual
thing and everybody kind of wants to know,

527
00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:39.680
Hey, you know, if things
aren't going well off the golf course,

528
00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:44.200
how does that affect you on it? Because you know, in a

529
00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:46.880
in a team sport, if that
happens, you've got other dudes that can

530
00:33:46.920 --> 00:33:52.720
pick you up. In golf,
you're solely the guy. You are solely

531
00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:55.319
the person. Whether it's a whether
it's somebody on the on the PGA Tour,

532
00:33:55.359 --> 00:34:00.160
plan in the Major Championship, LPGA, whatever, you are solely the

533
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:02.319
person. All right, one more
for you can't I know, heading into

534
00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:07.000
the pg Championship, Scottie Scheffler has
just been on fire, and today it

535
00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:09.800
sounds like Xander Schoffley got off to
a great star. What are some other

536
00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:13.840
takeaways thus far? I know it's
early here to get this thing started,

537
00:34:13.840 --> 00:34:15.880
but maybe some guys do you feel
like have gotten off to a better stret

538
00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:19.599
than you'd expected, or maybe somebody
struggling more than you would have expected.

539
00:34:20.519 --> 00:34:22.039
Well, you know, look,
I think you know when you look at

540
00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:27.320
the leaderboard right now. You know, we just talked about Rory mcaway,

541
00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:30.880
right, he's at five under par
and he said after his round he just

542
00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:34.960
felt like he scrapped it around,
so he scrapped out at five under par.

543
00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:37.920
Or Xander Schoffley is four shots ahead
and didn't miss a shot. All

544
00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:44.440
I'm saying is this, if if
Rory gets hot, you know what's gonna

545
00:34:44.440 --> 00:34:47.760
happen. What's gonna happen. Then
another storyline that I find to be really

546
00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:52.079
cool, to be honest with you, is Adam Hadwin, the former U

547
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:57.480
of L playing in the PG Championship
here back in Louisville. He's currently tied

548
00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:00.719
for tenth three under par. And
you know, I talked to the other

549
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:05.039
day and we did an interview and
he said, look, I hope I've

550
00:35:05.039 --> 00:35:07.599
got a few fans this week and
threw it and said, you know,

551
00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:12.719
just straight up go cards. I
love it, good stuff, can't I'll

552
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:15.159
let you get back at it and
enjoy the beautiful Is it still beautiful weather

553
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:17.280
out there? I'm in a cave
here in the studio. I'm assuming it's

554
00:35:17.320 --> 00:35:22.360
still sunshine out there. You know, it's a little cloudy there. There

555
00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:24.599
was just a few sprinkles, but
I think the rain is kind of held

556
00:35:24.599 --> 00:35:28.440
off. But yeah, I know
today has been a picture perfect day.

557
00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:30.239
Well, we'll let you get back
at it and appreciate you making time for

558
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:34.360
us. Thanks Kent. Appreciate you
man, Hey Broll, appreciate it all

559
00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:37.559
right. That's Ken Spencer from w
h AS eleven. Always good stuff there.

560
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:39.880
Kent's the best sor Ry quick break. We'll come back and wrap up

561
00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:43.519
the four o'clock hour. Keep this
party roll and it's coffee and company.

562
00:35:43.519 --> 00:35:49.719
Feel about Thornton's right here on Sports
Talk seven ninety so. I mentioned here

563
00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:52.559
and there over the last few weeks
that it's always nice when you've got you

564
00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:55.400
know, a lot of eyeballs on
the city of Louisville, and it's for

565
00:35:55.519 --> 00:35:59.760
good things, right the Derby.
You know, I feel like this year's

566
00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:04.000
Derby with the epic finish and it
just felt like, you know, it

567
00:36:04.039 --> 00:36:07.679
was once again another great event that'll
have more and more people coming back for

568
00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:10.920
another time next year. And obviously
the PGA Championship that doesn't happen that often.

569
00:36:10.960 --> 00:36:14.719
But we just talked to Ken Spencer, who's live there on site at

570
00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:16.000
Valhalla, and he says, you
know, we couldn't be doing better as

571
00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:20.159
far as you know, a host
city bringing a good atmosphere and a lot

572
00:36:20.159 --> 00:36:23.559
of fans. But another story,
I guess that has nothing to do with

573
00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:27.800
sports, where I think it ended
up being a good look for Louisville.

574
00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:31.440
Was a scary situation. If you
remember when the eighteen wheeler, the semi

575
00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:37.320
truck was hanging off of the Second
Street bridge, just the I mean,

576
00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:45.159
it became instantly a global story just
because of the optics. To see that,

577
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:46.440
I mean, it's like something you
see in a movie. And to

578
00:36:46.519 --> 00:36:51.840
know that there were first responders there
as quick as they were and they pulled

579
00:36:51.840 --> 00:36:55.639
the woman from the from the I
mean, it's crazy. It's still wild

580
00:36:55.679 --> 00:36:59.679
to look back and think that that
happened and it worked out to where she

581
00:36:59.840 --> 00:37:07.480
was rescued, and Okay, well
it's now we now have the dashcam footage

582
00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:13.599
for when the wreck happened, and
I have a tough time watching it,

583
00:37:13.639 --> 00:37:15.519
like it's one of the scariest things
I've ever seen. And again I'm not

584
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:20.239
surprised that it's that. I mean, I mean again, imagine being the

585
00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:24.559
woman driving the the eighteen wheeler and
ending up dangling from the bridge. I

586
00:37:24.599 --> 00:37:28.320
mean, the fear that you would
have, I mean, it's just it's

587
00:37:28.360 --> 00:37:32.880
crazy. So there was a driver
of a of a I'm not sure what

588
00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:37.199
kind of it was, a truck. It was a pickup truck that you

589
00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:42.000
know, kind of caused this whole
thing, and they're being charged with I

590
00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:45.480
don't know if it's I know one
of the charges is driving on a suspended

591
00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:52.320
license or a revoked license. But
man, that is just absolutely crazy.

592
00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:55.599
And this is the first time that
the woman in the truck or you know,

593
00:37:55.639 --> 00:38:00.440
the eighteen wheeler has has has talked
publicly. So yeah, just a

594
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:05.960
just an absolutely just a miracle really. I mean it's a miracle that like

595
00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:10.280
she was able to survive that and
first responders, you know, saved your

596
00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:16.239
life and she's she's healthy. But
you know, I mean, I think

597
00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:22.239
I would have just died like I
would have. I would have just completely

598
00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:25.400
I mean I would hope that i'd
have the ability to I just know my

599
00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:29.920
anxiousness, in my anxiety like I
would think. I mean, I think

600
00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:32.880
I could just pass out of fear
and shock that I'm in that I'm in

601
00:38:32.920 --> 00:38:36.679
that in that situation. Have you
seen it yet, John, Yeah,

602
00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:38.679
I just watched it about two or
three times while you're isn't that crazy?

603
00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:43.639
Man? That is I think,
like you said, I don't know what

604
00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:45.719
I would do. I'd like to
think that I would have the willpower to

605
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:49.360
to you know, get through something
like that. But you'll you would never

606
00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:52.519
know unless you went through it.
Oh yeah, and I wouldn't want to

607
00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:57.960
know exactly. Yeah, but yeah, I mean, that's that's wild to

608
00:38:58.000 --> 00:39:00.639
see. And I'm not sure what
level of life you know, trouble that

609
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this this this. I think it's
a uh you think it's a man who

610
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was driving that truck that again was
has since been. I think I think

611
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he's the Jeffersonville native. But I
mean again, I don't I don't know

612
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the specifics, so I don't want
to talk out of my rear end here

613
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anymore than I typically do. But
like, you know, if you are

614
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some somebody who just maybe were driving
and didn't realize your license lapsed and it

615
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was just an honest mistake to where
you lost control of your vehicle and it

616
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caused that, then you know,
imagine knowing that and then seeing the fear

617
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of that. I mean, it
just would be be terrible. But I

618
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can't imagine being the car that saw
the semi get in front of them go

619
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off the bridge. And you know, this is awful to say, but

620
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like I think instincts for me and
I guess it's not awful I just I

621
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would have been trying to get off
that bridge as soon as I could because

622
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seeing that, I mean, I
would just just you know, I would

623
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assume the bridge is just going to
collapse, even though it's not the case.

624
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And they opened it back they opened
it back up, not that you

625
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know, not that long after that
happened, but like I would be thinking,

626
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Okay, this is thing because I
already have a fear anyway of bridges,

627
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especially the Sherman Mitten Yeah, and
I don't know why, but I

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the Second Street bridge is small,
I mean, and it's old. It's

629
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honestly a surprise that more accidents don't
have it. But I'm less scared on

630
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that bridge. And I don't know
why you can get I guess maybe you

631
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have to go slower on it.
Maybe, yeah, Like but but the

632
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big why just how wide open the
Sherman Mitton bridges and how you know?

633
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To me just doesn't seem like there's
a whole lot of like barriers, like

634
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I don't know, I I have. I wouldn't say it's a phobia,

635
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but I have a fear of of
of bridges, and that I mean,

636
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I think most people would believe without
knowing the story. Would think like that's

637
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got to be photoshop right like that
that that's that's just dangling from the from

638
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from the from the bridge. It's
crazy, crazy stuff, all right.

639
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We got to get to the top
of the hour break here. We'll come

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back with another hour to go.
Finish strong here in the five o'clock hour.

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Keep it locked with us. Coffee
and company. Feel but Thornton's on

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