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Well, happy Tuesday here a special
time today Tuesday afternoon, Happy Apple iPhone

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event day. Very excited this month
the morning watching that very excited us spec

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coming to the iPhone. Crazy world
of sports right now, probably not the

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most set top of mine the CFL
right now with everything going on with Monday

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Night football, but we have made
a commitment every week we're going to do

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this. We have Jesus and Hussy
here and Evan, how are we doing?

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Guys? Doing great rate, exciting
weeknd of football with the CFL triple

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header on Saturday, and of course
the NFL starting up this weekend, so

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I think we have a lot to
talk about CFL wise this week. Yeah,

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Evan, how are you doing to
spend the roller coaster of emotions for

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sports and football fans? Who allows
twenty four hours? Yeah? Absolutely?

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I mean, you know, we
we're recording late this week, and obviously

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the CFL slate ended early with the
NFL coming in, so you're we're gonna

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have to refresh our memory I think
on a couple of things. But just

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looking at CFL specifically, I mean, it was a pretty good slate.

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There was some blowouts, some revenge
games, you know, some some there

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was a mix like the Hamilton Ottawa
game we'll get into. Thought that one

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was definitely interesting. And yeah,
I mean, overall, another good week

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of football, especially when you incorporate
the NFL into it. Yeah, it's

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crazy now a lot of football.
It definitely feels like a distant memory.

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We've had a lot of you know, the Jets need to sign Nathan Rourke

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right now. The Jests need to
call Nathan Work. I guarantee you,

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Justin Dunk and Ryan Ballent friends of
the podcast. He is probably the furthest

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thing from the Jets mind right now. I think Colin Kavern there because of

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other chance of getting back on the
Jets roster here the Nathan Work does.

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But we'll see, We'll see.
Stranger things have happened. Jason. You

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know, the Labor Day weekend was
pretty good. We were hoping for some

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good rematches this weekend, maybe not
as exciting as we maybe had hopes and

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blow outs here. What did you
make of a kind of the weekend slate?

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Overall? I thought it was very
diconomous because I think that we had

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two really good games. I mean, one game didn't start off very good,

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but it ended up very good.
On Friday Night with Hamilton Ottawa.

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But Calgary and Edmonton was a pretty
good game throughout with you know, the

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crazy comeback of the ELSA we're able
to come up with in this one.

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And then obviously those first two games
of the Saturday triple header were kind of

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disappointing, but I didn't really like
I don't think that was unexpected. Yeah,

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really kind of disappointing. Saskatchewan,
you know, they kind of had

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their big stand and we're coming in. We're doing the Banja Bowl and we

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don't want to call it the Banja
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and they really kind of stunk up
the place there. We'll kind of

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dissect that, but I mean fifty
burger by by Winnipeg here going on Sascatch

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with Evan. Why did you make
over all the weekend? Yeah, definitely

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a mixed bag. Like I pointed
out, you know, there was some

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revenge games you look at obviously Winnipeg
and Saskatchewan, which movie wasn't entertaining,

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especially if you were a Rough Riders
fan. But I think the people there

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in Winnipeg enjoyed that. Obviously the
best one. You know, Calgary had

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a big fourth quarter comeback last week
against Edmonton and pulled that one out at

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home in the Labor Day Classic,
and then this week it flipped. You

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know, Edmonton I think had eighteen
points in the fourth quarter and rallied all

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the way to beat Calgary at the
end. So both of those games,

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you know, back to back weekend's
coming down at the end of the fourth

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quarter. I thought that was very
entertaining. And then, as I pointed

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out too before Hamilton Ottawa, as
Jason said, you know, a slow

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start, It definitely wasn't. It
didn't look to be an entertaining game,

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and I almost, you know,
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you know, then things started heating
up and it ended up being a kind

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of back and forth shootout match at
the end, and eventually Hamilton pulled away,

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which was the expected result, at
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think that's that. Yeah, Lunnon
here is ready checking in. I'm ready

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to hear how good the Bombers are. Thanks. The rum Hut was slowing

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by halftime. Yeah, I have
to imagine that not did you guys see

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the story and I think we shared
in the group chat. The bar attendant

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that was going to buy drinks for
the bar if the Jets lost last night,

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and then the Jets came back and
won, and everyone realized they had

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to pay their attacks. And then
we have jayde and James arre wih I

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care about the NFL. I've been
watching the safled football for thirty five years.

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We xfled dealt with it. This
is the time of year the real

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football has been back the I tweet
all that stuff too, but excited to

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here talking at CFL today. Let's
get into this. So Mayor here one

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twenty nine, kind of similar stat
line for him. I know we've talked

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a lot about this kind of throughout
the last hour of many weeks. Jason,

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what did you make of our boy
Jake Mayor here and the loss?

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I didn't think he played that poorly. I thought you saw a lot of

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good from him. And I thought
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like, this was the Stampeders team
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where they were a twelve and six
team. You know, maybe they couldn't

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compete with the big dogs, but
I mean they were a very good team

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at least record wise last season.
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in this game, they had some
really good stretches. They had a really

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good drive in the second quarter.
They capped that off with a touchdown.

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To think it was William Longley,
the fullback of all people, and then

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they got another touchdown before the half
the Reggie Bagleton sol Jake Mayer was very

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good in the first half of this
game, but I think the Elks made

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some adjustments defensively in the second half
and really this Stampeders offense while he stalled

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out the rest of the game.
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night, maybe his weakest game thus
far in terms of stats and everything.

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Evan, what did you make of
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Calgary perspective, I mean you look
at Jake Mayor. He had a very

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I guess admirable performance, you know, nothing too over the top. But

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I was really more impressed with,
I think the balance on the Calgary offense

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between their run game in the past
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victorious, but I really liked what
they were able to do with Cadem Carey

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and then they had enough receivers step
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was a very balanced outing and we
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this year. I think we've described
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in a way where they can only
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lot of those things don't involve you
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anything like that. But then,
if you want to talk about Emonton and

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trey Ford, it was very interesting
because I didn't watch a lot of this

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game, and initially, when I
saw the final score, I thought,

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you know, trey Ford would have
had a better outing, But then I

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looked at the stat line and I
was a bit confused. I mean,

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again, great day rushing, which
is normal from him, eight carries for

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eighty two yards, which somehow gets
lost because Kevin Brown had such a good

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game and what We'll get into that
a bit later, but just specifically about

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trey Ford, I expected him,
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more in this game from the passing
department, and I've said that about him

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many times, and you know,
maybe I don't know if this would be

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bringing up a weird analogy, but
I'm at LSU and we have a quarterback,

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Jade Daniels. I've said the same
thing about on some occasions where you

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know, he might. We always
praise him for his rushing ability and you

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know, his ability to get through
defenders. He's very shifty, but sometimes,

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you know, when it comes to
passing, there's a bit that needs

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to improve. And again, both
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That's what's most important. You know, we make jokes about you know,

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the Lamar running back joke was a
thing for years and we've moved on

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from that. But my point here
being, you know, ultimately the quarterback's

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job, more than anything is to
throw the ball effectively. Even though there

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are a lot of great two way
players, like I've just mentioned Trey Ford

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here and then who I compared him
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A lot of good two way players, but ultimately from him, I think

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Trey Forward this game. It almost
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where I'm like, Okay, he
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in that department. Now again,
doesn't mean he's a bad quack, but

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you know that might get overshadowed just
because the Elks won, But again,

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I don't want to take anyway anything
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Yeah, Kevin Brown here having a
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know, it seems to me at
least it took him a little bit here

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to kind of pick up. And
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of that last season, and then
he got injured and he's done that.

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Friend of that, friend of the
podcast. He's a funny guy. But

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it's good to see. What do
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Kevin Brown really kind of coming.
I mean, this was a crazy game.

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I think probably his most impressive game
to date. Yeah, I think

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the best thing to happen to Kevin
Brown was tray four being inserted into this

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lineup because now the defense has to
account for tray Ford and that's opened up

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running lanes, especially inside for Kevin
Brown. That first touchdown of the game,

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he went right up the middle for
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five yard touchdown. So, I
mean, I think Kevin Brown, I

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think has arguably the best home run
hitting ability of any running back in the

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CF album. We've seen that,
especially the last couple of weeks, or

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even dating back a couple of weeks
more to that game against Winnipeg where he

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had that they'd run to open that
game. So I mean, he's been

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incredibly impressive, and the Elks just
incredibly impressive how far they've came from just

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a few short weeks. I mean, they've gone from a team that lost

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twenty two consecutive games at home with
several browne leads in those losses, mind

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you, to a team that just
overcame a sixteen point fourth quarter deficit twin

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consecutive home games. So there has
to be some positive momentum, even though

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the Elks are probably pretty far out
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Yeah, it's interesting, and I
don't know, like, yeah, here

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we were calling for Chris Jones's head, you know, for weeks here,

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and now it kind of looks like
they've turned it around. And I don't

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know if that was you know,
obviously putting trade foward in and kind of

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I will still never understand that entire
scenario where you know, Chris Jones was

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the one that you know, scouted
it and signed trade foward. He was

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the one that moved to draft him
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And you know, I've heard like, oh the Victor Queen and there was

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different sides forever. Evan, what
are you grading, like, Coach Jones?

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Performance on now because you know,
if they come around here and at

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least are respectable, you know,
I don't hear people calling for Chris Jones's

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head right now. Yeah, well, I mean Chris Jones obviously, you

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know, since Trey Ford has been
inserted into the line of this team looks

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a lot more prepared and obviously a
lot more competitive. I think that goes

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without saying. But you know,
for me personally, I even though even

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during the period where the Elks were
losing games and it looked like there was

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no hope, I mean from the
player personnel standpoint, I always thought they

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had a lot of talent. And
we just talked about a guy Kevin Brown.

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We've mentioned him a couple of times
on the show, but I feel

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like he is continuously one of the
most underrated running backs in the CFL.

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And again, part of that might
just be because the team wasn't winning,

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there weren't a lot of people watching. But it's clear that this guy,

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you know, has some serious,
maybe all star level capability nearly definitely was

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showing it in this game. And
then obviously, like Gina Lewis, you

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know, that was one of the
big storylines, like him coming over to

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Edmonton. We all thought that was
kind of the big deal, especially because

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you know, they didn't have Kenny
Lawler anymore. They moved on from that

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at and you know, Gino Lewis
was kind of a big acquisition again coming

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over from Montreal, and I'm in
this game. You know, he showed

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why you know, he's still important
and why he's still one of the best

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receivers in the league. Obviously,
he's dealt with some injuries this year.

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It's ultimately been a bit slower with
the quarterback change and just an overall I

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think slower offense at times. But
I mean they're turning it around, you

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know. And again I think Chris
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are extremely respectable right now. And
it's been good. I mean, they

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really did again, they have saved
their season, I would say, because

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right now I look at the Elex
as a team that can win games and

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that can compete with I wouldn't say
the top teams in the league, but

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they can certainly compete against, you
know, teams I guess somewhat at their

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level and maybe a bit above that. You know. I just I'm really

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glad to see that because again,
a couple of weeks ago, it was

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almost like an apocalyptic scenario where the
whole thing was gonna blow up. Everyone

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was gonna get fired, no one
was going to have a job. But

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but now that's changed a bit,
and I think that's really important, especially

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for this team moving forward. A
lot of what I look at is twenty

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twenty four. You know, where
is this team going to go after this

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season? Because as much as there's
been improvement, I mean, you can't

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forget about, you know, what's
happened before that and the victor Que departure.

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You cannot overlook that. So I
look at twenty twenty four and I

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see there will still be some change, I think, but ultimately they have

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some pieces there that I think they
really need to keep and they can build

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something off of. So ultimately,
very happy with the direction things are heading

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compared to again, what it was. I think we're all a bit happy

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that it's just that ship has sailed
and there's at least decent football that we

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can watch from Edmonton. Now.
I just yeah to me, and I

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agree with you, like to me, I can see Edmonton. I can

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see them progressing here and growing.
I don't know, what to make of

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Calgary and I have in this entire
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week they're bad. I mean,
you know, we were hoping for a

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little bit more separation here in the
standings obviously, you know, with them

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splitting the home at home, like
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Like I don't, I still don't
know who Calgary is here. We're week

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fourteen. Yeah, I think they're
the most baffling team in the CFIL so

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far of this season. And I
think that the best way that I could

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put it is that they lack composure
out there, especially Layton games. They've

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been in a lot of close games
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their composure and they haven't been able
to close games out, whether that be

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offensively and many times defensively as well. So I think back, if they

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just win one or two of those
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they played Dust and Crumb against Ottawall
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those games or one or two of
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completely different different situation right now,
and I feel like their season could be

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in a different place. So I
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far this season. Yeah, we
had a comment here and you know,

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Evonton showing up and I had a
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Crowd and oppressive through two thousand shows
that they were a good team. They

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would leave the league in attendance,
and I had that. I had a

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tweet from Dan bar and talking about
that. You can just feel momentum going

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right now in their direction. So
I guess that's good. I mean,

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they're probably gonna miss the playoffs and
end up whatever, but at least,

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like Evan said, looking forward to
twenty twenty four, maybe we have some

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hope any other players you want to
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can give Jason his thoughts as well. I don't think so. Maybe if

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I go back to Calgary, I
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I mean, those are definitely two
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out all years, especially Bagelton because
I mean, well he's been there for

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a long time. Michelle obviously coming
back later from the NFL. But you

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know, those two guys I think
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And if you want to talk about
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can give my two cents on that, very similar thing to Edmonton. I

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think there's change coming in twenty twenty
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in twenty twenty three has been an
extremely mixed bag. Some weeks, I

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think there's still a playoff caliber team. Other weeks I think they need to

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blow it all up and restart,
and that I guess their ragin is kind

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of overgiven how many years they've been
in the playoffs. It's it's a challenging

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time and I think there's probably a
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different ways that this could go.
Specifically with Jake Mayor, I feel the

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same way. I was really excited, you know, when he came into

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this season having full rain because believe
I was gone. I had been waiting

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on that for a long time.
I've always talked about, you know,

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Jake Mayor was one of the first
guys I really dove deeply into with the

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CFL, and he had an opportunity
this year to take over the team and

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be the quarterback. And so far, yeah, mixed bag. You know,

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some weeks, like I saw him
live this year in BC and you

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know, that game it looked like
he could have been benched. And then

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there's other weeks where you know,
he's dialing it up for three hundred,

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three hundred fifty yards whatever, three
touchdowns and you think, jeez, there's

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lots of work with there. So
again, depending on you know, what

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happens when it comes to personnel and
coaching, that might decide, you know,

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where Jake Mayor is moving forward or
what happens to him when his position

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becomes But you know, Calgary,
there's a lot of question marks there too

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that they're definitely not They're definitely not
safe just because they've been well off in

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the past. I mean, football
is a business. It only really matters

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what you do now. You have
great Calgary was in the playoffs for X

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many years before this, but you
know, one bad season can really change

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the tide of things, especially when, as Jason mentioned, had you won

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one or two more games, and
they've been in so many close games this

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year. You know, again,
the other part of me feels like this

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team could you know, almost have
a winning record. They could be you

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know, they could be a seven
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team, and that would really I
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So I don't know. Again,
it's a complex issue. For the Calgary

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Edmonton matchup intrigues me. Both of
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just because I feel like there's so
many different directions in where those teams

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could go. I mean, you
look at it's such a different scenario compared

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to obviously like a Toronto or you
know, Winnipeg, where you're not going

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to change anything and everything just kind
of works out as usual. But anything

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can happen. That's that's my bottom
that's my that's the bottom one. Yeah,

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I mean the CFL seasons long.
I think the alex had just stagged

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themselves too big of a hole here
at this point, Jason, any other

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week of players you want to highlight
on this before we move on. I

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think I'm good for players I want
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interesting because Edmonton travels to Saskatchewan next
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those two teams earlier this season.
I am going to be taking Edmonton to

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win that game spoiler alert. And
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on life support after this loss,
mainly because Hamilton's picked up a couple of

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I wouldn't say an unexpected victory this
week against Ottawa, but a couple of

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weeks ago against BC Hamilton has one
or two more victories then you know,

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you would have expected at this point. I think Calgary was really banking on

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that, and I think that the
path forward for them to get into the

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playoffs is almost impossible at this point, although you know, I think a

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lot of things have to happen for
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and it's certainly going here on the
bye week doesn't help next week as well,

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you know, in terms of kind
of getting momented. I guess either

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rework kind of whatever. But yeah, it does feel like they're going to

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kind of be the last, the
last thing kind of looking out. I

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have the standing, sure, but
I don't know, we'll see. It's

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it's I would like to say we
were home for a little bit more separation

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there and kind of getting an identity
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This was what was it? Was
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We're claris through like six interceptions and
then two of them were picked sixes and

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they still won the game. I
mean here to throw throw five touchdowns.

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Very impressive day, very impressive,
A working day from Blue Bomber. Is

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probably the best game, you know, statistically Claris has had in a long

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time. We'll go first, Evan
here, fifty burger against SA scatchwin at

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home. I mean the Riders just
didn't show up. Yeah, Saskatchewan looked

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shell shocked early, I think is
the term I'll use. And Winnipeg,

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you know, they're one of those
teams where again I always talk about even

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if this team has a fluke or
a bad day as they did against Saskatchewan

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in the Labor Day Classic, you
know, they had a tight loss and

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it was just I think that,
you know, gave them motivation obviously to

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go back and play Saskatchewan in Winnipeg. You know, the weekend after the

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in the Banjo Bowl. Yeah,
I was really impressed with Winnipeg. When

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that team comes out firing, I
mean they mean business like. It was

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an absolute clinic. And I mean
if you look at you know, Zach

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Calero's eighteen of twenty one passing three
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you know, the game, the
game was over in the first half.

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That that's all you really need to
know. And I watched the first

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half of this game and then I
didn't watch anymore of that because obviously you

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knew it was going to happen.
But yeah, I again extremely impressed with

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Winnipeg. But outside of Zach Colaros
and their receivers, you know, putting

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in a lot of the work,
the one guy that I really want to

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give credit to more than anybody is
Bridy Olivera. We've obviously discussed him on

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the show at some point this season, but you know, I feel like

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I haven't given him enough credit.
He's he's really been carrying the rock.

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And again I think maybe we're just
kind of used to it now so we're

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a bit more quiet about it.
But I really have to give some credit

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to Brady Olivera. I mean,
in this game specifically, he looked like

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the best running back in the CFL, and you know, he's I would

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definitely say, you know, he's
up there when it comes to the a

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j Olts and and the James Butler's
of the world. I mean, he's

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really doing a great job. So
shout out to Brady Olivera. You know,

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and he's been there now. I
think this is his fourth season.

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If you don't count the COVID year, I think he's been there since twenty

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nineteen, so you know, he
was still around when they had Andrew Harris

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and he's been a really I guess
you'd say developmental piece, but it's certainly

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paid off. And you know,
obviously in this game. You know,

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I can't imagine how much it hurt
for Saskatchewan. But the other guy too,

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I mean Dalton Shone, you know, who was one of the top

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receivers in the league last year.
I mean, not not slowing down at

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all. You know, five catches
hundred four yards, three touched down,

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and I think all those were in
the first half as well. You know,

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you just couldn't stop them. You
just couldn't stop them. And Winnipeg,

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you know, after they scored the
first i'd say maybe two or three

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touchdowns, I knew that the game
was going to end up like this and

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that there was no looking back.
I mean, I'm surprised, you know,

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Saskatchewan. The fact that that game
was three nothing, with the Saskatchewan

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lead at one point early in the
first was incredible to me. I mean,

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Winnipeg really just that they when they
get hot, they get really hot,

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and I think this was the best
reminder of it that we've had in

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quite some time. So I'll leave
it at that. Yeah, I had

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to put up here, Eddie Steel, friend of the show. Yeah great,

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great, Alex come back tonight.
But this story that he is,

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it's when the PEG takes things very
personally. They embarrassed rough Riders the way

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that's quite possibly hard to do a
pro football flab out Jason, when did

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you make up those comments? And
then the game? Oh well, I

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mean, I just think the Bombers
are just a team that has that championship

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makeup and the ability to respond to, you know, tough games. And

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I think that I can't think of
the last time that this team's lost consecutive

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games. I mean, you have
to go back. I think they said

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until twenty nineteen, they were saying
on the broadcast, when Zach Claris wasn't

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even there the last time they lost
consecutive games. So, I mean,

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they just have such a tough mentality
as a team. And I mean this

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game is just not unexpected for me. I think that going into this one,

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I thought Winnipeg would probably bounce back
in a big way. Didn't think

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it was going to be fifty one
to six. But at the same time,

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I thought that Winnipeg would come out
and make a statement in this one,

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and I thought that, you know, the writer's defense was just overwhelmed

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by that matchup against those Winnipeg receivers. Lawlorin shown just such a combination and

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then Olivera really doing his thing.
We have a really good competition for most

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doubt standing Canadian in the CFL this
year with Bets and Olivera. I think

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it's gonna be really interesting to see
what player takes hold of that down the

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stretch. But Olivera, he keeps
on putting up performances like this. He

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could be in the MLP conversation as
well. So I think that's basically all

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I have to say it for this
game. Range just rolled in here.

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I'm sitting outside the vie. Hopefully
I'm under an umbrellas. Hopefully it doesn't

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get too crazy here, but we
might have to relocate the bond the mark

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house inside here and we'll see what's
going on. Our doctors ran in.

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Yeah, you know, Winnipeg has, like we said, that running up

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ability here and certainly coming in and
we know the divisional rivalry and kind of

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all of that stuff, but really
remarkable. And I don't know, I

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can't get to beating up Saskatchewin either. I mean, I know they have

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to come back last week and one, you know, the lay every day

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game, but it doesn't feel like
they're built to, you know, come

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back for what is this you know, twenty? I mean this game was

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over halftime. I mean they're down
you know, what is it thirty?

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I can't even do the math here. Craziness, Evan In terms of our

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boy della galla, what did you
make of him here in the first half

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and at least they had a chance. Well, I mean the commentators were

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saying, it's kind of hard to
get a feel of what joke Jake Dola

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galax used me did in that game
because he just wasn't on the field that

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much. You know, they had
a lot of three and outs in Winnipeg

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just kept scoring, and you know, there just wasn't really a whole lot

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of opportunities for him. So I
mean he was able to, you know,

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still get the ball out a couple
of times and finished with the respectable

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completion percentage, but as you could
obviously see, barely any yards and didn't

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find the end zone. Yeah,
really really just not much there. And

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I mean you could say that about
the entire Saskatchewan team on both sides of

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the football. When you're only scoring
six points in the game was over by

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halftime. I mean, there's really
just not a lot to discuss. I

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mean just look at that graphic there. I mean, everything you know is

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Winnipeg pretty much except for I guess
what is that lost? Yeah yeah,

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yeah, yeah, So as you
can tell, I mean that's what that

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graphic pretty much defines what domination means
in a football game in terms of the

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rivalry here, Jason. I mean, you know we're here, We're fifty

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fifty over the weekend, you know, between the two weegands. But I

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would certainly say that Winnipeg came out
of the home at home. We'll get

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a little bit better. What did
you make of that? Just the divisional

408
00:25:03.519 --> 00:25:07.200
rivalry of it. Oh. I
think Saskatchewan's probably happy that they were even

409
00:25:07.279 --> 00:25:10.200
able to steal one of these games. I mean, I think it's gonna

410
00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:14.359
be interesting to see how they respond
going forward, because I think this kind

411
00:25:14.359 --> 00:25:17.559
of reminds me of how audible was
earlier this season. They had the two

412
00:25:17.680 --> 00:25:22.359
dramatic victories against Winnipeg and Calgary and
then they've slid ever since. Then,

413
00:25:22.640 --> 00:25:26.759
will so Scatchewan have a slump after
this game. We'll have to see if

414
00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:30.240
they kind of got exposed by Winnipeg
in this one and if they kind of

415
00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:33.279
go on a slide of their own
here. Yeah, I was at the

416
00:25:33.319 --> 00:25:36.440
Mariner game last night with Matt Baker
or the BC Lions and I we were

417
00:25:36.440 --> 00:25:41.359
talking the alliance here and I said, if VC does not win at home

418
00:25:41.400 --> 00:25:44.519
against Ottawa, like I'm calling the
season like this is it? I mean,

419
00:25:44.640 --> 00:25:47.559
you know, like Ottawa has has
fallen off a cliff and we'll get

420
00:25:47.559 --> 00:25:49.359
to all of that, but I
mean, yeah, you're certainly looking you

421
00:25:49.400 --> 00:25:52.119
look at these scenes differently. I
don't know Saskatchewan. I can't get a

422
00:25:52.119 --> 00:25:55.960
beat for either. It feels like
kind of like you know, last week

423
00:25:56.000 --> 00:25:59.160
crazy and the big dramatic, you
know, they won right in overtime and

424
00:25:59.200 --> 00:26:03.519
everything, and then here I don't
know they It's to me, it's still

425
00:26:03.640 --> 00:26:06.279
kind of disabled rough riders. Evan, any other thoughts on this one,

426
00:26:07.279 --> 00:26:11.160
I don't think so. I do
agree with the point that Saskatchewan, you

427
00:26:11.200 --> 00:26:15.440
know, they definitely fluctuate a bit
too, but fortunately for them, you

428
00:26:15.440 --> 00:26:18.920
know, they're on the winning side
of things like that. I've I've brought

429
00:26:18.920 --> 00:26:22.440
this up with so many points during
the season, but I viewed Saskatchewan in

430
00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:26.039
Calgary for a long time in similar
ways because they were both in a playoff

431
00:26:26.119 --> 00:26:27.480
race and you didn't really know how
to feel about him, like on a

432
00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:33.279
week to week basis just changed so
much. But ultimately, again Saskatchewan,

433
00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:37.480
there's now a five hundred and they
have an opportunity to get back over five

434
00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:41.559
hundred where they were going into this
game, So you know, things are

435
00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:45.839
still I think looking upward for them. Jake Dela Gala has really improved in

436
00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:49.759
a short amount of time. I
know there was some questions around him too,

437
00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:53.359
but clearly I think he's the better
option than Mason Fine, and I

438
00:26:53.400 --> 00:26:59.559
had a hunch that that was always
the case even before he really got onto

439
00:26:59.559 --> 00:27:02.680
the field. Told Gal I'm talking
about but uh, yeah, I mean,

440
00:27:02.759 --> 00:27:07.359
ultimately, Saskatchewan just you know,
I don't know, Yeah, I

441
00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:10.359
mean, when you lose fifty one
to six, it's it's kind of hard

442
00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:12.559
to take away positives from that.
But I do think that, you know,

443
00:27:12.559 --> 00:27:15.720
this is far from the end of
the road for them. Obviously,

444
00:27:15.799 --> 00:27:21.119
it is really right now I'm trying. Wasn't I wasn't prepared for this.

445
00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:23.319
I know I was looking here in
the schedule, you know, next week

446
00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:27.160
obviously Saskatchewan going into Ottaway, you
know that that should be a win.

447
00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:30.880
You know, we gotta see here
BC. I mean, they've got a

448
00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:33.000
couple of easy games with you know, ottawat home, and then here going

449
00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:37.119
into Edmonton. I would like to
think the BC Lions will be favored Edmonton.

450
00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:41.000
So we'll kind of see how these
standings shake out. But I don't

451
00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:44.799
know. To me, it's still
gonna be I don't know. I see

452
00:27:44.799 --> 00:27:48.640
this semifinals, you know, Saskatchewan
comes into BC and loses the same way

453
00:27:48.680 --> 00:27:51.400
Calgary did last year. I mean, do you see the division shaking out

454
00:27:51.440 --> 00:27:56.039
differently here? Jason? I think
that no. I think I think the

455
00:27:56.160 --> 00:28:00.400
standings as they are are the standings
that we're gonna get at the end of

456
00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:03.680
the season. I think that Calgary's
not gonna be able to catch Hamilton.

457
00:28:03.119 --> 00:28:06.880
Calgary's not gonna be able to catch
the Scotch one. So I think at

458
00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:08.359
the end of the day, you
know, unless there's a collapse from both

459
00:28:08.359 --> 00:28:14.119
of those teams and Calgary does something
super unexpected because I think Ottawa and Edmonton

460
00:28:14.200 --> 00:28:15.240
I think they're a little bit too
far out of it to make a run

461
00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:19.799
at this point. We'll have this
conversation later, obviously towards the end of

462
00:28:19.839 --> 00:28:23.880
the season, but Calgary, are
we expecting the wholesale changes after the season?

463
00:28:25.039 --> 00:28:26.319
I feel like they got to do
something here after coming up short in

464
00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:32.000
the last few years. Jason,
Oh, No, I don't think there

465
00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:34.400
will be changed, at least in
terms of the GM and head coach position.

466
00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:38.640
I think Dave Dickinson will be given
another year to sort things out.

467
00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:41.839
Whether that's right or wrong. I
think a lot of it the blame actually

468
00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:47.720
does should be assigned to him because
of the poor play calling and misusage of

469
00:28:47.720 --> 00:28:51.519
some of the weapons that they've had
on that offense this year. But I

470
00:28:51.559 --> 00:28:56.079
think one movie could see is that
he takes hold of the offensive coordinator job

471
00:28:56.119 --> 00:29:00.359
again, So maybe he becomes just
like Chris Jones holding three job there in

472
00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:03.279
Calgary. But he was an offensive
coordinator with this team before when he was

473
00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:07.599
the head coach at the start,
and that's actually how we got the head

474
00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:11.200
head coaching job in Calgary. He
was the offensive coordinator and got promoted a

475
00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:15.400
head coach, so I could see
him taking hold of the offensive coordinator job

476
00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:18.519
again and you know, trying to
get the things back on the rails here.

477
00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:22.680
But I think at the end of
the day, maybe Jake Marre gets

478
00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:26.160
ousted as the starter here. But
I don't know. I'm really not sure

479
00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:30.559
what to makeup Calgary in terms of
what they're going to be doing going into

480
00:29:30.559 --> 00:29:33.240
the offseason, because they've never quite
been into this position before since I started

481
00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:37.799
watching the CFL. That's my thing
is you said, yeah, do you

482
00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:40.000
move on for Mayor? And I
would ask the same thing, but you're

483
00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:42.880
like, well who, I who
else do you go with? I don't

484
00:29:42.920 --> 00:29:45.240
I don't even know. I don't
you know if if Mayor is not the

485
00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:48.079
guy, Evan any thoughtsand now there's
anything else on this game before we move

486
00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:52.000
on? Well, I mean,
I think if we want to talk about

487
00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:55.880
Calgary and Jake Mayor again briefly,
you know, yeah, I mean the

488
00:29:55.880 --> 00:29:59.559
big question is, like, in
my opinion, you don't move on from

489
00:29:59.640 --> 00:30:03.519
Jake because Mayor has been in that
system now for its going on. Well

490
00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:07.880
this is year three and you know, yeah, I mean, like you

491
00:30:07.119 --> 00:30:11.519
could replace them if you really felt
like that, but that obviously involves,

492
00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:14.160
you know, trading for somebody,
and you might be giving up a lot

493
00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:17.200
of additional assets that you're not ready
to move on from. You don't want

494
00:30:17.240 --> 00:30:19.400
to take that jump. And like
if you're just gonna if your plan is

495
00:30:19.400 --> 00:30:22.559
to just sign a new quarterback,
well, I mean we look at the

496
00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:26.720
quarterback pool right now, I mean
even at the NFL level when it comes

497
00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:30.680
to free agency, just not a
whole lot of guys available that necessarily look

498
00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:34.279
better than you know, what Jake
Mayor offers right now up there in Calgary.

499
00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:37.359
So yeah, I don't know.
Again, this is a complex issue,

500
00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:41.599
right. I think it all comes
down to the people who are making

501
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:45.240
those decisions, and they'll obviously make
the decisions that they feel are right,

502
00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:48.519
and they have a lot more knowledge
of those situations than we do just sitting

503
00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:53.680
here talking about it. But will
be an interesting storyline to follow with Calgary

504
00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:59.000
more than anybody, because, as
Jason has pointed out, they just they

505
00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:00.559
don't lose, you know, not
a losing team. They don't have a

506
00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:07.039
losing culture. Yes, they're not
necessarily Winnipeg or Toronto becoming a perennial championship

507
00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:10.960
caliber team, but they're always in
the playoffs and they're always competing, and

508
00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:12.599
this year, I mean, it
just really hasn't felt like that for a

509
00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:19.359
majority of it. Let's move on
here. We have in Montreal and Toronto.

510
00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:25.480
I don't know, I'm really curious
here with Montreal back to five hundred,

511
00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:27.000
they had stacks and wins earlier in
the season, felt like they were

512
00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:32.440
getting momentum. Obviously, coming into
Toronto is a difficult task and they're kind

513
00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:34.200
of on a different level this year. We had Mike Hogan on the podcast

514
00:31:34.680 --> 00:31:38.839
talking about that and just kind of
historically how they are right now. Jason,

515
00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:42.079
what do you make of Montreal and
it seems like they're season I mean,

516
00:31:42.119 --> 00:31:45.720
okay, we're still second in the
East, but it doesn't feel like

517
00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:48.920
they have a lot of juice right
now. Yeah. I think I sound

518
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:52.200
like a broken record here every time
I talk about the Alouettes, But I

519
00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:55.640
mean like they're just kind of stuck
in the middle. They can beat every

520
00:31:55.640 --> 00:32:00.519
other team in the CFL other than
Toronto, BC and Winnipeg. So after

521
00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:02.759
next week they played Toronto again,
so they're going to probably be six and

522
00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:07.759
seven after next week, but then
the schedule lightens up after that and they

523
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:09.640
don't play any of those big three
teams. Again, I don't believe.

524
00:32:09.720 --> 00:32:13.359
So, I mean, do they
run the table and go to eleven and

525
00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:16.519
seven this year. That's quite possible
given what we've seen from them so far

526
00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:20.960
this season. But I also think
their offense has really regressed. I think

527
00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:24.400
that one quote from the broadcast that
really stout to me was Paul Appolie saying

528
00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:29.160
that he was looking at Montreal during
the week. He was saying that the

529
00:32:29.240 --> 00:32:32.279
explosive plays from Montreal the first five
weeks of the season, they were one

530
00:32:32.319 --> 00:32:37.839
of the best teams in the CFL
at creating explosive place but that's dropped off

531
00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:40.039
dramatically since the first five weeks of
the season. So, I mean,

532
00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:43.920
I think that kind of tells a
lot of the story. With the Alouette's

533
00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:46.720
offense, it's really been poor the
last month or so. Yeah, this

534
00:32:46.839 --> 00:32:50.440
is what kills. I mean,
this is I know, sports in general,

535
00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:52.200
and you know, we're living through
this right now with the Mariners and

536
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:55.640
we're you know, we're in the
Al West and trying to kind of compete

537
00:32:55.680 --> 00:32:59.519
for one of those playoff spots and
yeah, we went into Tampa over the

538
00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:01.319
weekend and then just got completely host
right, and you're like, well,

539
00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:05.599
yeah, but if we win,
I like, yeah, but even then,

540
00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:07.960
if you get to the playoffs,
you're not gonna win any of these

541
00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:09.920
games, right, You're not gonna
win, you know, Like you're saying,

542
00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:14.720
Okay, Montreal can win except you
know, any good teams. Okay,

543
00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:16.599
well you know, so then okay, we make it to the first

544
00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:20.839
round of the playoffs and then kind
of but what and what you know,

545
00:33:21.160 --> 00:33:22.640
at what point? Right? You
know, with some of these players.

546
00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:27.000
I remember on Good Morning Football they
were saying, like, you know,

547
00:33:27.079 --> 00:33:29.400
some of these players like I don't
want to make the playoffs, Like if

548
00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:31.920
we're not gonna like, I'd rather
take vacation early. Like what's the point

549
00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:35.319
of making it to the first round
of the playoffs just to get blown out?

550
00:33:35.319 --> 00:33:37.880
I mean the Seahawks did that last
year against the forty nine ers.

551
00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:39.559
I don't know, Evan, what
do you make Montreal here? It really

552
00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:44.680
seems like they're kind of faltering.
Well, it's Jason pointed out. The

553
00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:47.559
biggest problem all season has been their
their failure to separate themselves. You don't

554
00:33:47.599 --> 00:33:52.759
know what exactly they are and you
don't know what they aren't because they are

555
00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:55.160
spack dab in the middle. Like
it is the hardest definition of being in

556
00:33:55.200 --> 00:33:58.920
the middle that I've seen in a
long time. You cannot beat the teams

557
00:33:58.920 --> 00:34:01.599
above you, but you'll beat every
buddy below you. And until that changes

558
00:34:01.680 --> 00:34:05.759
that, Like, I just I
really can't define an identity for that team

559
00:34:05.839 --> 00:34:08.039
right now. I will say I
do agree. I think the offense is

560
00:34:08.840 --> 00:34:14.519
there's definitely some questions there. You
know, started off the season started off

561
00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:16.719
and it looked like they were they
were looking pretty good on offense. They

562
00:34:16.760 --> 00:34:19.840
were rolling again. They still have
a lot of pieces. I like,

563
00:34:19.920 --> 00:34:22.599
I feel like their offense has one
of the higher ceilings in the league,

564
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:28.639
but they necessary they don't. I
wouldn't say they haven't tapped into that exactly.

565
00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:30.960
So yeah, you know, down
the stretch, like if I mean

566
00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:36.039
they play they play Toronto next week, is Jason pointed out, you go

567
00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:38.039
to six and seven and then maybe
you're at eleven and seven at the end

568
00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:42.480
of the season if everything goes right, I'd say realistically, more like ten

569
00:34:42.519 --> 00:34:45.480
and eight, you know, but
then yeah, like they're gonna get into

570
00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:50.440
the playoffs, and it's just gonna
be I mean, I don't want to

571
00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:53.960
say pointless, because those players are
still playing for something and they're still motivated

572
00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:58.800
and they're still very talented. But
it's gonna be really difficult, and everyone

573
00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:01.280
already knows, you know, what's
like to happen. So I don't know,

574
00:35:01.400 --> 00:35:06.119
like at ten and eight, did
you accomplish something in the season,

575
00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:09.400
Yes, but you didn't win in
the playoffs, So it just kind of

576
00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:15.440
feels like like the year isn't wasted, but it's also like you left a

577
00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:17.960
lot on the table. Again,
just a very interesting position. But I

578
00:35:17.960 --> 00:35:23.599
feel like the Alouettes in the playoffs
will certainly look better than say Hamilton's,

579
00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:29.599
you know, the whole Hamilton's situation
might take away from some of what Montreal

580
00:35:29.679 --> 00:35:31.840
has going on in terms of their
struggles, just because you know, people

581
00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:34.920
are gonna look at the tie Cats
and think, geez, I mean,

582
00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:37.280
that's gonna be one of the worst, you know, playoff teams maybe ever

583
00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:42.280
or certainly in the last couple of
years like that. Just not a very

584
00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:46.239
good looking team in multiple facets of
the game. So again, it's it's

585
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:50.239
been that all has to do with
just how the season is played out in

586
00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:52.840
the standings, some very unique things
going on, and you know, it

587
00:35:53.079 --> 00:35:59.320
looks like we're gonna have a well, just given how just described Montreal,

588
00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:00.639
it looks like we're gonn have,
like, you know, two teams in

589
00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:06.440
the playoffs that wouldn't be considered competitive
and you know, ultimately swayed in many

590
00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:09.599
different directions during the regular season.
But anything could happen. You know,

591
00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:14.519
I'm still confident to a team like
Montreal, you know, even with their

592
00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:17.079
struggles and even with their you know, inability to separate, could still go

593
00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:22.519
out and stun somebody and surprise somebody, just because again they have enough talent

594
00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:27.000
and the personnel to get it done. And Hamilton, I mean, dare

595
00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:29.920
I say it? I don't know. I really don't know. I don't

596
00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:31.480
have a good feeling, but it
could certainly happen. We will get into

597
00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:36.840
the Hamilton Ottawa game. But there
was a lot of things that I liked

598
00:36:36.880 --> 00:36:39.719
in that game from Hamilton, even
though it was really slow and there was

599
00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:43.480
still a lot of sloppy play,
and a lot of people, you know,

600
00:36:43.519 --> 00:36:46.159
weren't gravitating towards that. I try
and I always try and look at

601
00:36:46.159 --> 00:36:50.320
the positives I think people you know, know that for me best, I

602
00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:53.199
really don't try and be negative.
So the best way I can look at

603
00:36:53.199 --> 00:36:58.119
this is, uh, you know, Montreal, they might not necessarily have

604
00:36:58.159 --> 00:37:02.199
a clear path or direction, but
they have enough to where you know you

605
00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:07.119
could never rule them out. And
even with Hamilton, like, it's not

606
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:09.800
a good look for the league when
you have a team that you know hasn't

607
00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:15.719
performed very well in the regular season
and had to make a significant coaching change

608
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:19.159
at least with one of their coordinators, you know, maybe that's not the

609
00:37:19.159 --> 00:37:22.119
best look either. But you know, playoffs, in my opinion, is

610
00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:27.239
a separate like yeah, like we
just had this discussion of is making it

611
00:37:27.239 --> 00:37:30.480
to the playoffs and knowing you're most
likely to lose in the first round even

612
00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:34.199
worth it. Well, I view
the playoffs is a completely different season.

613
00:37:34.239 --> 00:37:37.960
I mean, your playoff wins are
not counted towards your win loss total for

614
00:37:38.119 --> 00:37:43.159
the regular season. Same you know, same goes like preseason in the NFL,

615
00:37:43.239 --> 00:37:45.039
and CFL has that as well,
So I don't know, I just

616
00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:46.880
view it as like a fresh start. You know, you kind of have

617
00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:51.199
to look at it as every team
in the playoffs who makes it is O

618
00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:53.679
and O and we'll just go from
there. Obviously, we know we have

619
00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:58.320
an idea in our heads about how
things will pay out. But I remember

620
00:37:58.440 --> 00:38:01.480
last year, like, you know, everyone thought Winnipeg was gonna smoke Toronto

621
00:38:01.559 --> 00:38:06.039
in the Gray Cup, and you
know, Toronto ended up putting up a

622
00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:07.920
very good fight even after losing their
quarterback, and ended up, you know,

623
00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:10.960
surprising Winnipeg in one of the better
games that I think we've seen in

624
00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:15.519
a while in that regard. So
yeah, I don't know, I know

625
00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:20.440
that's that goes a bit beyond just
Montreal, but you definitely you can't talk

626
00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:23.360
about that team without you know,
like where are they going, like if

627
00:38:23.639 --> 00:38:25.559
you know, even if they get
into the playoffs, like what does the

628
00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:30.119
future look like? There's still a
lot of questions there. But again,

629
00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:32.079
the number one thing is they're still
winning to some degree. Yes they're not

630
00:38:32.119 --> 00:38:36.599
beating the good teams, but you
are still winning and it looks like they're

631
00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:40.320
going to finish their season with a
positive record, and I'd say that's a

632
00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:45.320
win just because again, there were
so many people before the season saying Montreal

633
00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:46.599
was going to suck and they were
going to be at the bottom of the

634
00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:50.719
East and miss playoffs entirely. So
when you look at it like that,

635
00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:54.320
it's like, okay, well they
you know, managed to defy expectations in

636
00:38:54.599 --> 00:38:58.320
some regards. So yeah, I
think that's where I'm at on that.

637
00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:01.880
I was looking here at the schedule
as Jason was saying, Yeah, Montreal

638
00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:06.360
could very much run the table here
after their game next week against Toronto,

639
00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:09.440
we have the Evanton Elks hanging out
in the chat. Shout out Kevin Brown

640
00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:13.719
here. We already gave him his
roses, analyzed all of that, so

641
00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:16.400
shout out if that's Richard or whoever
over there, but shout out Edmonton Elks

642
00:39:16.440 --> 00:39:20.800
hanging out in the chat. I
had a couple of things here, all

643
00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:28.159
right. So Toronto clinch right their
first first first team to clinton the playoffs

644
00:39:28.199 --> 00:39:30.840
this year. We had a tweet
from you know, John Hodge, Toronto's

645
00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:32.639
might as well. I started selling
their tickets at the East Final. Right

646
00:39:32.639 --> 00:39:37.119
now, the guy between them and
the rest of the division is a chasm.

647
00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:38.480
What do you make We've talked to
Montreal at Jason, what do you

648
00:39:38.519 --> 00:39:44.239
make Toronto here? Historic run they're
having this season, Yeah, I mean

649
00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:49.199
they've just slowly built a juggernaut over
the last three seasons. I mean it

650
00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:52.760
started back in twenty twenty one,
because back in twenty nineteen they had a

651
00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:55.119
god awful season. They finished I
believe it was four and fourteen and then

652
00:39:55.159 --> 00:39:59.920
made wholesale changes. But then the
first move was really bringing in Ryan Dinwin

653
00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:05.440
and just developing slowly, you know, having good seasons. I think they

654
00:40:05.480 --> 00:40:08.760
went on eleven and seven the previous
two seasons. They're far going to surpass

655
00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:13.280
that this year with already a ten
and one record, and I think that,

656
00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:16.320
you know, introducing Chad Kelly to
this lineup has turned this team into

657
00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:21.880
a juggernaut. And I mean it's
not just that they do everything in all

658
00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:24.679
phases of the game so well.
I mean even down to their special teams.

659
00:40:24.719 --> 00:40:29.559
They have excellent, excellent special teams. They have you know, excellent

660
00:40:29.599 --> 00:40:32.079
receivers. I love the way the
receiving corps works together, even though they

661
00:40:32.119 --> 00:40:37.440
may not have that true number one
star guy they look like look for like

662
00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:42.159
Kenny Lawler or a Dalton shown,
but I mean they worked so well together

663
00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:45.039
with their different skill sets to VARs
Daniels, Cam Phillips, all those guys

664
00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:49.719
in there. So I think they
just have a very well rounded team.

665
00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:52.440
And it feels like, as it
pertains that these two teams that met in

666
00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:57.639
the East Final last year, the
gap is widening between these two teams,

667
00:40:57.639 --> 00:41:00.960
not getting closer. So I think
that's the most concerned thing if you're Montreal,

668
00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:04.920
and it's a great sign if you're
the argost. The only reason I

669
00:41:04.920 --> 00:41:07.440
co signed this the Argonauts being good
this year is Mike Mitchell just watched this

670
00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:10.559
starting quarterback and the Jets go down
two minutes, you know, two minutes

671
00:41:10.599 --> 00:41:14.760
into their drive last night. So
that's okay, the Argonauts can be good

672
00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:16.599
this year because I think Mike Mitchell
needs that for his part. Yeah,

673
00:41:16.639 --> 00:41:20.599
I'm really crazy. I found,
if you guys, good viewership on the

674
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:22.840
episode. I've thought over the weekend
the Banja Bowl show with Mike Hogan and

675
00:41:22.920 --> 00:41:27.800
everyone else, you know, Mike
obviously with the organization, but really just

676
00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:31.079
put in the context statistically and kind
of historically, how impressive that, you

677
00:41:31.159 --> 00:41:35.440
know, the Toronto has been this
season, especially Evan, what do you

678
00:41:35.519 --> 00:41:37.800
make of, you know, Chad
Kelly, anything else with the Argos,

679
00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:40.320
because we got your thoughts on the
outlets, right, I mean, well,

680
00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:44.880
again, not much to be said
with Toronto, just we're getting used

681
00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:47.159
to this now and it's similar to
Winnipeg, Like when this team gets hot,

682
00:41:47.199 --> 00:41:51.000
they can get really hot and just
roll over somebody and they don't look

683
00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:54.960
back. They just have that.
They do have that championship pedigree now fortunately

684
00:41:55.000 --> 00:42:00.639
for them, and Chad Kelly I
think continues to exceed everybody's ex dictations.

685
00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:05.159
It cannot be understated how quickly of
a rise that he's had. I mean

686
00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:07.960
this time a year ago, Chad
Kelly was almost an afterthought. You know,

687
00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:12.440
we were all looking at mclude Bethel
Thompson and what his future was going

688
00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:16.159
to look like. But now obviously
Chad Kelly has come in and kind of

689
00:42:16.679 --> 00:42:22.119
he's I guess passed the torch on
successfully or while McLeod has passed the torch

690
00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:25.719
on successfully to Chad Kelly, and
he's carrying that with pride. And yeah,

691
00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:29.920
I mean again, I've said it
so many times, but you just

692
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:32.360
can't understand what a great story Chad
Kelly is. And uh, you know,

693
00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:37.079
there's so much football lineage obviously in
his family, but on the personal

694
00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:40.639
level, everything that he went,
you know through, and he obviously had

695
00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:45.320
some legal issues and I think ultimately
his character kind of kept him away from

696
00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:50.119
the NFL. Not the first time
we've seen, I guess an All League

697
00:42:50.119 --> 00:42:53.840
player have that scenario where you know
they the NFL kind of kicked him out

698
00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:55.920
because they had an attitude or whatever. I mean, you can make that

699
00:42:57.039 --> 00:43:00.639
argument for I don't know, Mark
kt King in the XFL, or obviously

700
00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:06.400
Josh Gordon involves some some politics things
like that. But Chad Kelly really exceeding,

701
00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:08.880
defying all expectations. And you know, we discussed this on the show

702
00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:13.320
last week too. I think,
but just signed a big extension and he

703
00:43:13.400 --> 00:43:15.840
is their quarterback of the future and
you can tell he really enjoys playing up

704
00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:20.800
there. And I believe one of
the clauses in that contract is, you

705
00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:23.320
know, he might get more money
or there's some added incentive if he doesn't

706
00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:25.800
leave and go to an NFL team, you know, to where they have

707
00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:29.880
to you know, let him go
into a camp and then bring him back.

708
00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:34.159
So there's definitely a high level of
commitment there, and I think,

709
00:43:34.159 --> 00:43:37.199
you know, Toronto really wants him
to stay. And despite what a lot

710
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:39.480
of people also thought, I think
Chad Kelly looks like he wants to stay.

711
00:43:39.480 --> 00:43:43.440
You know, he's enjoying slinging the
football up north of the border,

712
00:43:43.440 --> 00:43:45.960
and uh, you know, just
again good for him, good for the

713
00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:51.079
team. We will probably I have
a feeling we'll be seeing them in November

714
00:43:51.119 --> 00:43:55.679
there in Hamilton's Yeah, I you
know, even as this Aaron Rodgers situation,

715
00:43:55.800 --> 00:43:59.360
and we were have been talking all
day about you know, who can

716
00:43:59.400 --> 00:44:01.559
they go after, and people been
tweeting, like you know, obviously we

717
00:44:01.840 --> 00:44:04.840
made the joke about the Nathi the
war, but like you know, nath

718
00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:07.760
Wark's not on that conversation. Chack
Kelly is not, you know these are

719
00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:09.719
I mean, we're still talking Carson
Wentz. He's at there hunting deer in

720
00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:13.280
the woods, and we're still giving
carton Carson Lentz, who you know,

721
00:44:13.320 --> 00:44:15.719
I had to survive a year with
him last year with the Washington Commanders,

722
00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:21.320
like where other name. I think
Jack Kelly is in a phenomenal situation.

723
00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:22.599
Like I said on the show last
week, I think he looks like he

724
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:25.880
is having an absolute blast. He
got paid, the guys love him.

725
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:29.599
It's a great coaching staff. I
mean Toronto, like you said, Evan

726
00:44:29.679 --> 00:44:32.760
has this choir whoever was has quietly
been putting together a jugger. Not here,

727
00:44:34.199 --> 00:44:37.159
Jason anything else on the argos or
aulettes. Here is really rating.

728
00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:42.400
This is I keep sliding over.
That's the dog's gone inside waters. I'm

729
00:44:42.440 --> 00:44:45.599
falling off the umbrel here, Jason, anything else from this, Yeah,

730
00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:49.159
I just want to shout out the
Argo's offensive line because I think it's an

731
00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:52.840
undertalked part of their team. One
specific example I want to bring up because

732
00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:57.480
this guy has become a star for
this team, Ryan Hunter. He was

733
00:44:57.519 --> 00:45:00.199
a guy that the argo Is selected
in the first round back in twenty eighteen,

734
00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:04.760
So they had to wait four years
for this guy to, you know,

735
00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:07.760
go through his NFL opportunities. But
he was a Kansas City for a

736
00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:10.519
while and then he was with someone
else, but then he signed midway through

737
00:45:10.599 --> 00:45:14.599
last year, gone into the starting
lineup by the end of last year,

738
00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:16.960
and then this year has been excellent
for them, and it looks like to

739
00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:21.159
be a CFL star fears to come. So I think they've done a really

740
00:45:21.199 --> 00:45:24.280
good job building up that offensive line
and I think that's a big part of

741
00:45:24.320 --> 00:45:29.880
what they do offensively. Let's go
here. Last game, I'm trying to

742
00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:36.639
shake a water water off the umbrella
here. We have a tie Cats going

743
00:45:36.719 --> 00:45:40.119
in to Ottawa. I had Tim
Bayans on talking about this game ahead of

744
00:45:40.159 --> 00:45:45.159
time. We'll go first see Jason
on this one. Hamilton takes the lea.

745
00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:47.119
You know you got another victory here. How did you make of Hamilton?

746
00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:52.199
Well, like I was saying on
last week's show, last week's recap

747
00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:55.679
show, that I was expecting hamilton
to bounce back despite being on three days

748
00:45:55.719 --> 00:46:00.480
rest, despite Ottawa coming off a
bye week, I still thought Hamilton would

749
00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:05.440
bounce back and beat Ottawa. And
this one despite all of that, and

750
00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:08.760
I think that, you know,
it was a lot closer than I was

751
00:46:08.800 --> 00:46:13.519
expecting. Very ugly first half of
this one, six three in the first

752
00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:16.559
half, but a great second half
from both offenses really came alive. I

753
00:46:16.639 --> 00:46:22.039
had to watch this game you on
demand after the fact because I was on

754
00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:24.239
a camping trip this weekend, But
I thought it was a pretty good game

755
00:46:24.280 --> 00:46:28.920
when I went back and watched it. But like I said, Ottawa just

756
00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:31.840
cannot beat Hamilton's for the life of
them. This is their tenth straight lost

757
00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:37.280
Hamilton. They've now Hamilton's now swept
the season series four years in a row

758
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:40.000
against Ottawa, and I think that
you're not going to get very far in

759
00:46:40.039 --> 00:46:44.039
the CFL if you're not going to
win your divisional games, and I don't

760
00:46:44.079 --> 00:46:47.079
think Ottawa's won a divisional game yet
this year. Yeah, a lot was

761
00:46:47.159 --> 00:46:51.760
made about, you know, the
Hamilton's playing that they're on rest and they

762
00:46:51.800 --> 00:46:53.719
got to travel and they played on
Monday, Like it didn't matter at all.

763
00:46:53.760 --> 00:46:57.519
I mean, this was a must
win for both teams, especially Ottawa.

764
00:46:57.679 --> 00:47:00.559
Like he said, I will stay
with the now. The NFL,

765
00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:05.199
the triple headers with the CFL makes
it really difficult if you're on the CFL

766
00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:07.199
plus train. And then we've had
many discussions about how great that is for

767
00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:10.880
everyone, like if you like,
if you're out on a Saturday, which

768
00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:14.199
maybe I was, like, you're
kind of out of luck to do a

769
00:47:14.239 --> 00:47:16.400
lot of these games. And so
I know that this season and we're working

770
00:47:16.400 --> 00:47:20.000
through that, and we had Randy
on the podcast talking about it, but

771
00:47:20.079 --> 00:47:22.119
like it's tough, Like Evan,
I don't know if you live through that

772
00:47:22.199 --> 00:47:24.679
as well, Like we had a
we had a birthday party we had to

773
00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:28.280
go to Saturday, Like it just
takes a chunk out of your ability to

774
00:47:28.360 --> 00:47:30.800
kind of watch these games live.
Yeah, I mean, you know,

775
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:36.519
I personally have a good chunk of
time on weekends usually, so I don't

776
00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:38.480
mind. I mean, I you
know, I'll watch I'll watch games and

777
00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:40.760
chunks, Like if it's a triple
header, you know, you watch one

778
00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:44.719
half, go do something else,
come back, the next game will be

779
00:47:44.760 --> 00:47:45.880
on or whatever. I don't know. You can schedule it to where,

780
00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:51.920
you know, things where you can
cover all the games or at least look

781
00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:53.320
at them. But I understand,
I mean, you know, people have

782
00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:57.320
other things to do, and especially
on a Saturday. I mean, you

783
00:47:57.360 --> 00:48:00.000
know, I know the CFL wants
to avoid NFL fell you know, with

784
00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:04.920
that scheduling conflict, but you're also
dealing with like college football, which is

785
00:48:04.960 --> 00:48:07.039
equally as big here in the United
States. So if you're looking at looking

786
00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:12.079
at it from an international viewership perspective, you know, you're still competing with

787
00:48:12.079 --> 00:48:14.360
that. And ultimately, yeah,
I mean, it is easier to have

788
00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:16.440
like a game, you know,
kind of one day of the week starting

789
00:48:16.440 --> 00:48:21.119
on Thursday or Friday, whatever,
you know, or maybe maybe two games

790
00:48:21.119 --> 00:48:24.239
max on a certain day. But
yeah, tripleheaders could get difficult. I

791
00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:28.239
personally, I don't know, I
kind of enjoy them just because when I

792
00:48:28.280 --> 00:48:30.159
have, you know, time to
kill, it's like, you know,

793
00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:31.360
you can just kind of sit there
all day and kind of you know,

794
00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:35.920
figure out the flow of things,
and you know, unfortunately every game probably

795
00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:38.320
isn't going to be close. But
staying on this game, I mean,

796
00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:43.800
yeah, I was really impressed in
the second half of how both of these

797
00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:47.159
teams kind of got going, especially
Hamilton. My main takeaway from this game

798
00:48:47.199 --> 00:48:52.280
above everything else, and besides what
Jason's already pointed out, you know how

799
00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:55.719
Ottawa just just can't get past Hamilton. That really is the unfortunate story of

800
00:48:55.760 --> 00:49:00.360
their season. Besides injuries at this
point and other things that maybe weren't expected,

801
00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:05.119
the thing that I was really impressed
about was just just Taylor Powell.

802
00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:08.159
He has come such a long way
since his first started when he first appeared

803
00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:14.440
in a game, has really carried
this team through the season and now that

804
00:49:14.559 --> 00:49:15.920
obviously in a point where they can
make playoffs, even when a lot of

805
00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:20.920
people said they wouldn't. I said
several weeks ago the Hamilton again had the

806
00:49:20.960 --> 00:49:23.320
personnel to get it done, that
they had things in their favor even if

807
00:49:23.320 --> 00:49:27.800
they weren't the prettiest team. And
you know, Taylor Powell has definitely been

808
00:49:27.840 --> 00:49:30.360
a leader and has gotten him to
that point that I projected they would be

809
00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:35.960
again, just it's really cool to
see a rookie quarterback come in and again

810
00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:37.760
we can kind of just watch him
developed game by game. I mean,

811
00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:40.679
if you go back, you know, to whenever he first started, I

812
00:49:40.719 --> 00:49:45.840
think he's improved in so many areas
since then, perhaps more than any other

813
00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:47.039
guy in the league. I mean, I don't know, like Trey Ford,

814
00:49:47.480 --> 00:49:50.800
I guess, but I don't know
if that really counts because he played

815
00:49:50.840 --> 00:49:53.480
last year and it was more of
a dramatic scenario, whereas no one really

816
00:49:53.519 --> 00:49:57.239
even knew who Taylor Powell was going
into this season. I think he was

817
00:49:57.280 --> 00:50:00.679
an afterthought even to the fans in
Hamilton's just because is it. You know,

818
00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:02.960
there was so much attention around believe
I. And then if that doesn't

819
00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:06.320
work out, well you have Matt
Schiltz, who's a proven veteran. But

820
00:50:06.519 --> 00:50:12.039
obviously both of those options went went
quickly off the board and now you have

821
00:50:12.239 --> 00:50:15.800
Taylor Powell leading the way. Dustin
Crum I guess would be another one too

822
00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:19.760
in Ottawa, obviously a guy that
we've been able to see develop a bit.

823
00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:22.079
But I feel like Powell will get
more credit because he has ultimately been

824
00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:25.360
able to put this team in a
playoff position when to be honest, I

825
00:50:25.360 --> 00:50:29.840
mean again, things a couple of
weeks ago look pretty grim for Hamilton too,

826
00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:32.239
Like you, talking about this team
and the playoffs together, really didn't

827
00:50:32.239 --> 00:50:37.840
seem like like it was gonna happen. It didn't really seem possible. But

828
00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:40.480
just with the way again things have
panned out, Hamilton has been able to

829
00:50:40.519 --> 00:50:45.039
scrape by enough, even if it's
not pretty like same thing in this game,

830
00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:46.920
they kind of got into a late
shootout, but they got the job

831
00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:51.480
done. They got enough, and
now it looks like, you know,

832
00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:53.599
they can make the final push and
get in. So yeah, it was

833
00:50:53.679 --> 00:50:59.480
very impressed with that Hamilton. You
know, continuing again, Orlando Steinerer,

834
00:50:59.519 --> 00:51:01.519
I would never count that guy out. I really do think he has a

835
00:51:01.559 --> 00:51:06.440
certain pedigree and he can really take
a team that on paper, really you

836
00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:08.960
know, was one of the bottom
teams in the CFL and propel them to

837
00:51:09.000 --> 00:51:13.280
this position where you know, they
can still again, like I've said,

838
00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:17.119
win games being a playoff position,
you know, have a decent, decent

839
00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:22.480
program going on both sides of the
ball. Really impressive on that front,

840
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:24.960
and I think that was my main
takeaway from this game overall. Remember in

841
00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:30.559
the preseason, our pregame whatever it
was, the pre show for the kickoff,

842
00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:31.360
and I said, I bet you
both leave. I is going to

843
00:51:31.440 --> 00:51:35.599
come in an old guy not work
out in Hamilton, Aaron Rodgers. Old

844
00:51:35.599 --> 00:51:38.679
guy gonn not work out in you
know Jets. I mean just just saying,

845
00:51:39.079 --> 00:51:43.639
anyway, Jason, how are you
feeling here? Like? I feel

846
00:51:43.639 --> 00:51:45.440
like this is very similar. I'm
looking at the games coming up, and

847
00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:50.960
Hamilton does not have an easy stretch. They're playing in Toronto here and what

848
00:51:51.440 --> 00:51:55.239
is it there? Winnipeg at Hamilton
next week, then they are at Toronto

849
00:51:55.400 --> 00:51:59.760
and then their schedule item's up a
little bit. We got Calgary coming in

850
00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:01.840
and they're going to Saskatchewan. But
the same issue here, I mean,

851
00:52:02.320 --> 00:52:07.800
so probably going to be tyecast Outlettes
and then them going into the buzz side

852
00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:09.159
that is the Argonauts. Like,
what do you make of this playoff picture

853
00:52:09.199 --> 00:52:13.440
here? Well, it's nice to
get a win, but when you look

854
00:52:13.480 --> 00:52:15.480
at it, three of their five
wins this year have been against Ottawa,

855
00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:21.039
So I don't know how you can
be happy with that as a Tycats fan.

856
00:52:21.360 --> 00:52:24.440
I mean I think that you know, there's other things that have gone

857
00:52:24.480 --> 00:52:30.159
on this year unfortunate with the quarterback
injuries. But Taylor Powell is playing pretty

858
00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:32.679
well right now and it's good to
see him get a lot of reps because

859
00:52:32.719 --> 00:52:37.239
he might actually be this team starting
quarterback. Looking forward to next year,

860
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:39.320
as you were talking about earlier,
not too many great options out there if

861
00:52:39.360 --> 00:52:44.599
you're looking for a starting quarterback,
so maybe just develop your own and go

862
00:52:44.719 --> 00:52:47.920
the cheap quarterback route and kind of
build a good roster around him. So

863
00:52:49.280 --> 00:52:52.400
I mean, at the end of
the day, I don't know. I

864
00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:57.360
think Hamilton is going to make the
playoffs just based on the poor teams around

865
00:52:57.360 --> 00:52:59.920
them. I think that Calgary is
not going to be able to catch the

866
00:53:00.239 --> 00:53:01.679
I think if Calgary had won this
week, they would have been in a

867
00:53:01.800 --> 00:53:07.079
much better position to potentially catch Hamilton. But now they're a full game behind.

868
00:53:07.840 --> 00:53:09.719
You know, there's no tiebreaker with
the crossover. They have to have

869
00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:14.719
a better record than Hamilton in order
to get into the playoffs. Ottawa's too

870
00:53:14.719 --> 00:53:16.920
far behind now. I think Ottawa's
completely out of it. So I think

871
00:53:16.960 --> 00:53:21.679
Hamilton's gonna make the playoffs, but
they're gonna be an easy first round exit

872
00:53:21.760 --> 00:53:25.920
again against Montreal, and Montreal has
really taken them to school the first couple

873
00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:30.840
of matches they've seen between those two
teams this season as well. So I

874
00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:32.880
mean really don't know how to feel
as a tie Cats fan. I think

875
00:53:32.880 --> 00:53:37.360
they're going to make the playoffs,
but I think they're they're really disappointing season

876
00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:42.480
regardless. Yeah, I don't want
to say it's boring, you're predictable,

877
00:53:42.519 --> 00:53:45.480
but it does feel you know,
I'm having fun doing all these games,

878
00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:46.960
but it does feel like it's it's
going to be kind of a repeated last

879
00:53:47.039 --> 00:53:52.320
year here, you know, Montreal, Toronto, BC, Winnipeg with Saskatchewan

880
00:53:52.400 --> 00:53:57.079
being slipped out there for Calgary kind
of losing that home game on that one

881
00:53:57.079 --> 00:54:01.079
more question that Jason, And then
we'll go to Evan Pale and Crum like

882
00:54:01.119 --> 00:54:04.800
are both of these teams riding with
their quarterbacks next year? And then we

883
00:54:04.840 --> 00:54:07.280
touched Pal but I mean Crum like, you know, if Missoli's done,

884
00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:10.880
and like, I don't know how
this auto address this. Yeah, it's

885
00:54:10.960 --> 00:54:14.880
tough. Like I think that,
you know, Drew Brown could be an

886
00:54:14.920 --> 00:54:20.000
option for one of these teams because
obviously I think both of those guys,

887
00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:22.719
as we talked about with Naylor a
couple of weeks ago. I think both

888
00:54:22.719 --> 00:54:25.840
of those guys, you know,
with Clarissa now under a contract. I

889
00:54:25.880 --> 00:54:30.320
think Drew Brown's gonna be a guy
that prices himself at a Winnipeg with what

890
00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:34.719
he's shown, So maybe he gets
a deal somewhere, but I mean,

891
00:54:35.159 --> 00:54:38.159
I think that more likely. I
think we see both of these teams stick

892
00:54:38.239 --> 00:54:43.119
with their guy going into next year, unless you know, Bolivia comes back

893
00:54:43.199 --> 00:54:45.280
looks great at the end of this
season, or you know, Matthew Scheltz

894
00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:50.559
comes back and shows somewhat of a
consistent streak of health. I mean,

895
00:54:50.639 --> 00:54:53.039
I just think that, you know, Taylor Pale is probably your starting quarterback

896
00:54:53.079 --> 00:54:57.559
for the Ambleton Tiger Cats next season, but obviously a long way to go

897
00:54:57.639 --> 00:55:00.159
until then. Are we still waiting
by leave I coming back? Is that

898
00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:05.400
still a pipe dream here? Oh? Well, I mean they they seemed

899
00:55:05.440 --> 00:55:08.599
like they were more optimistic about that
than you know, the rough Riders were

900
00:55:08.639 --> 00:55:13.079
about you know, Trevor Harris coming
back. I think they talked about that.

901
00:55:13.079 --> 00:55:15.800
They were like very affirmative, saying, oh, he will make a

902
00:55:15.880 --> 00:55:19.519
full recovery, is expected to be
back this season. That's what they said

903
00:55:19.559 --> 00:55:22.559
in the press release. But yeah, who knows and I think Matthew Schultz

904
00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:24.880
is very close to returning. He
actually dressed for this game as the third

905
00:55:24.960 --> 00:55:29.159
quarterback, so maybe he's starting in
a couple of weeks. But I think

906
00:55:29.159 --> 00:55:31.159
at this point you should just ride
with Powell and get the young guys some

907
00:55:31.239 --> 00:55:36.519
reps. Evan, we saw your
boy Kai locksleague and a snap Powell guy

908
00:55:36.559 --> 00:55:39.400
got really hit pretty hard that during
the first quarter. What did you make

909
00:55:39.400 --> 00:55:44.000
of the tie cats here coming in? Yeah, like I said, I

910
00:55:44.000 --> 00:55:49.159
mean, you know, ultimately this
season there's a lot of questions and you

911
00:55:49.239 --> 00:55:52.000
don't know what the future is going
to look like. But I agree.

912
00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:54.239
I mean I've I've said before,
you know, just seeing Taylor Powell's development,

913
00:55:54.719 --> 00:55:58.239
he can start for this team.
And I agree with Jason, like,

914
00:55:58.280 --> 00:56:00.559
regardless of whatever else was on the
table, a lot of times you

915
00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:04.639
just want to roll with what works. I mean, bringing Matt Schiltz back

916
00:56:04.639 --> 00:56:07.199
into the game, I wouldn't be
against that, but like he hasn't played

917
00:56:07.199 --> 00:56:09.480
in so long, and you know, I mean that that's a good friend

918
00:56:09.480 --> 00:56:14.199
of mine, but just from the
football perspective, like he hasn't played in

919
00:56:14.239 --> 00:56:15.559
a while, and you know,
I'm sure the team is looking at it

920
00:56:15.599 --> 00:56:20.440
like Taylor Powell just went out there
through for over three hundred yards three touchdowns.

921
00:56:20.440 --> 00:56:21.760
Why would you want to get rid
of him? You know, why

922
00:56:21.760 --> 00:56:23.320
would you want to pull him?
Like they could really have something here and

923
00:56:23.360 --> 00:56:28.039
looking forward, Yeah, I don't
know what Bolivi's future looks like. And

924
00:56:28.079 --> 00:56:30.440
even even Matt Schilts, both of
those guys could be gone next year and

925
00:56:30.440 --> 00:56:35.639
you just have Taylor Powell sort of
the in house developmental guy, and you

926
00:56:35.679 --> 00:56:37.960
know, someone else behind him,
whether they keep Kay Locksley there is kind

927
00:56:37.960 --> 00:56:43.480
of a hybrid or bringing someone else, you know, I think they have

928
00:56:44.440 --> 00:56:46.559
Who else do they have right now
at quarterback? Do they have Antonio Pipkin

929
00:56:47.039 --> 00:56:52.000
or is that Scatche? He's in
the scatch one now? Okay, Well,

930
00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:54.320
I don't know. I mean they
could certainly bring in somebody else behind

931
00:56:54.360 --> 00:57:00.679
Taylor Powell, I think next year, assuming that Shilts and and Believe ire

932
00:57:00.679 --> 00:57:02.599
gone, but the team as a
whole. I mean, the guy that

933
00:57:02.679 --> 00:57:07.599
really impressed I think more than anybody
outside of Taylor Powell on in the Hamilton's

934
00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:12.519
side was Tim White. You know, they were talking about him at the

935
00:57:12.559 --> 00:57:15.679
start of the game, and I
mean he really, you know, turned

936
00:57:15.760 --> 00:57:19.960
up there when it when it mattered
most and then Tyreet McAllister had a touchdown

937
00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:23.239
in this game to a name that
people should not quickly forget. Even if

938
00:57:23.239 --> 00:57:27.719
he isn't always the most productive,
he flashes a lot and he's one of

939
00:57:27.760 --> 00:57:30.480
those pieces where you know, he
hasn't done a ton this year. Again,

940
00:57:30.480 --> 00:57:34.320
he's flashed a couple of things,
but that to me is one of

941
00:57:34.360 --> 00:57:38.800
those key pieces that Hamilton should stick
with moving forward, regardless of how they

942
00:57:38.840 --> 00:57:43.480
you know, move on in the
off season and handle some of their situations.

943
00:57:43.519 --> 00:57:46.440
I think Tyreet McAllister is definitely a
building block for that offense and what

944
00:57:46.480 --> 00:57:51.440
they want to do. Just a
really cool player all around, and you

945
00:57:51.480 --> 00:57:54.000
know, we'll see what happens there, but definitely rooting for him and again

946
00:57:54.079 --> 00:57:57.639
someone that you just shouldn't forget about
quickly. I feel like next year could

947
00:57:57.639 --> 00:58:00.800
be a very big year for him, assuming he's a bit more consistent and

948
00:58:00.800 --> 00:58:04.480
he can get some more reps.
But ultimately, Hamilton's got things to work

949
00:58:04.559 --> 00:58:07.480
with. Even though again, as
we've already discussed, maybe not their best

950
00:58:07.480 --> 00:58:13.840
season, given what's happened well compared
to previous years, I'd say, well,

951
00:58:13.840 --> 00:58:15.280
this is good. We'll start to
wind up that paid I gotta escape.

952
00:58:15.280 --> 00:58:19.159
I was like, did I hear
all tho? I'm out there.

953
00:58:19.199 --> 00:58:22.599
I don't know what's happening in Seattle. Maybe the roof will be closed for

954
00:58:22.639 --> 00:58:25.079
the Mariner game tonight. We'll started
to put this to bed. You know,

955
00:58:25.159 --> 00:58:28.760
I appreciate everyone today, and you
know, Jason had to work and

956
00:58:28.760 --> 00:58:30.000
I had to work, and Evan
that class so kind of doing that.

957
00:58:30.239 --> 00:58:32.960
We're all kind of moving around.
But I appreciate everyone kind of doing that.

958
00:58:34.360 --> 00:58:37.800
It should be a good show this
Friday. I think we got Jeff

959
00:58:37.800 --> 00:58:40.239
Hamilton coming on in Dan Ralph,
and then I believe I will be talking

960
00:58:40.280 --> 00:58:44.719
to a Monzo Seewell over with the
Alouettes. And then I think we have

961
00:58:44.800 --> 00:58:46.239
Matthew Betts coming on. So I've
been going back and forth. Baker and

962
00:58:46.239 --> 00:58:49.719
I were at the game last night, so I think that Matthew Betts will

963
00:58:49.760 --> 00:58:52.880
be coming on. I was trying
to work on They've got like the CFL

964
00:58:52.960 --> 00:58:54.960
Hall of Fame inductions and trying to
do some virtual step, but I don't

965
00:58:54.960 --> 00:58:59.320
know if Lucas will be able to
accommodate Pat or not. Evan anything else

966
00:58:59.320 --> 00:59:01.440
from you, and then we'll Jason
sagabye, No, I don't. I

967
00:59:01.440 --> 00:59:05.920
don't think so. I think I'm
just looking forward to Week fifteen, and

968
00:59:06.079 --> 00:59:08.519
well, I think the craziest part
that we can end on is, you

969
00:59:08.559 --> 00:59:14.719
know Week fifteen starts here on Friday
and three days from when we're recording this,

970
00:59:14.800 --> 00:59:16.559
and I mean, you know,
Week twenty one is the last week

971
00:59:16.599 --> 00:59:19.840
of the season, so it really
feels like the home stretch. I mean,

972
00:59:19.880 --> 00:59:22.159
we've been talking now a couple past
couple of weeks, teams are really

973
00:59:22.159 --> 00:59:27.960
starting to separate themselves, but now
it almost feels like crunch time, kind

974
00:59:27.960 --> 00:59:29.679
of like you know on Red Zone, they call it the witching hour,

975
00:59:29.880 --> 00:59:32.079
you know, where we're start separating
themselves. That that's what it kind of

976
00:59:32.079 --> 00:59:36.159
feels like right now. I mean, we just went over so many scenarios.

977
00:59:36.159 --> 00:59:37.559
It's like we have a good idea, but there's still a lot of

978
00:59:37.599 --> 00:59:40.559
teams that could you know, surprise
and pull through at the end. So

979
00:59:40.960 --> 00:59:47.440
definitely getting into again sort of the
the Red Zone here, my my blasphemous

980
00:59:47.480 --> 00:59:50.880
I've never watched Red Zone, and
like we have the one now, we

981
00:59:50.960 --> 00:59:52.920
have the YouTube TV plan where we
get the games, but I think you

982
00:59:52.960 --> 00:59:55.519
had to even pay more to get
the red zone, and so I had

983
00:59:55.559 --> 00:59:59.360
my I had my my quad box
up on Sunday, but I did not

984
00:59:59.559 --> 01:00:01.280
have it, and I have the
red zone. Jason, anything else from

985
01:00:01.280 --> 01:00:04.719
you? Any other content you have
coming out this week before the weekend?

986
01:00:05.400 --> 01:00:07.639
Ah? Well tonight. I actually
I'm going to be part of another stream

987
01:00:07.719 --> 01:00:12.920
for my NFL show recapping Week one
in the NFL. So tune over to

988
01:00:13.679 --> 01:00:16.239
Coast to Coast Gridiron. That's the
guy I collaborate with for that, so

989
01:00:16.480 --> 01:00:20.519
much similar to this show. We
just talked about that week that was and

990
01:00:20.559 --> 01:00:23.199
everything like that. I'm much like
Evan. I'm just super excited for this

991
01:00:23.239 --> 01:00:27.119
time of year. I mean,
the CFL's in its stretch run, the

992
01:00:27.239 --> 01:00:30.679
NFL's back. It's really a glorious
time of year if you're a football fan.

993
01:00:30.800 --> 01:00:34.159
So really excited for the coming weeks. But pretty soon, like Evan

994
01:00:34.239 --> 01:00:37.199
said also that football is going to
be over pretty soon in terms of the

995
01:00:37.199 --> 01:00:42.440
CFL. We'll make sure you give
the Washington Commanders win enough credit here on

996
01:00:42.480 --> 01:00:45.039
the Week one. That was a
tough game we play, and I appreciate

997
01:00:45.079 --> 01:00:49.599
that and Sam Howe and everything else
I like and subscribe thumbs up the video

998
01:00:49.760 --> 01:00:52.920
go if you're not, obviously.
I think everyone here's probably subscribed to Jason,

999
01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:54.039
but make sure you do that.
I appreciate it. Like I said,

1000
01:00:54.119 --> 01:00:58.599
everyone working schedules this week. I
rain's picking up again, so I'm

1001
01:00:58.599 --> 01:01:00.519
going to get the heck out of
here. We'll see you, Hasteks.