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Welcome to another episode of Wow.
Okay, so we have to go there,

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We have to go. I realized
what I was doing, Like everyone

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must, everyone must see our sins. Welcome to another episode of Jeff Jeff's

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Bizarre Adventure Guiding the Podcast within a
podcast, where we go on a detour,

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a shippoo, den, a ova, whatever you want to call it,

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and check out another animal that we
believe will contribute to the education of

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one Jeff back a lot in his
anime adventures. I am your host,

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tomor Sain, joined as always by
John aka super Ipatchwarf. It's more.

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It's always great to be here,
but this week I'm ecstatic start up a

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brand new adventure, new conversations,
new new things. Will learn about each

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other. How could you not be
how could you not be a ten on

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this one? Yeah? Exactly.
We're also joined by a professional podcast of

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many, many years who knows exactly
things like timing cues and went to speak

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when not to speak, not talking
over each other. Lucy James, Hey,

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Tom, thanks so much. Yeah, guys, it's big. It's

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big. Tossing to the weather,
quality, quality energy. Yes, I'm

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here outside, I love it.
Thanks. Yeah. Also joined by anime

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neophyt, but growing in his understanding
of anime. Jeff Baccalah. That's right,

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my friends. And look I've been
containing myself so far. Yeah,

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I'm about to explode before elde.
Okay, I'm gonna pop. This is

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hold. Let me let me just
let me just say a couple of things

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before you explode. Is this edging? Is this podcast edging in? This

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episode recap was pulled from the Cowboy
Bebop fandom wiki. Thank you very much

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to everyone who contributes towards that.
It's a very well maintained fandom wiki.

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And yeah, so I have been
using the episode breakdowns from there. Yes,

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yeah, pop off with your top
off. So Cowboy Bebop. I've

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I had always heard about this show. I think, I want to say

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like for a long time. It
was probably played on Adult Swim. Does

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that sound right? Yeah? Right? Uh, but never from the other

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side of the world. He had
him, Jeff, but I was able

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to confirm it. So thank you
for doing that. I man, I

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just talk about like instantly falling in
love with something. Uh, this show

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is doing many things for me that
like even Joe Joe's is not doing for

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me. Whoa there I said it. That's right, I'm cheating on you

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different different things. Who Yeah,
uh, there is something about this show

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that is like equal parts, like
almost like Fifth Element and Blade Runner mixed

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with like a jazzy kind of like
bond dressing, if you will. That

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I was not expecting at all.
I think I got a good taste of

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it watching the titles song at the
finale of Start US Crusaders like we did

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last time. But my goodness,
Uh, my friends, you picked the

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right show for me. I don't
know what it is about this thing.

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It's just it's just speaking to me
in a way that even Joe Joe's did

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not speak to me out of the
gate. Like I'm just saying, my

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friends says, talk about a strong
start. This one's doing it for me.

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I'm so happy you're enjoying it.
Jeff's awesome. Oh it's great.

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Oh to unfortunately bring things down a
little, do you guys feel like maybe

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Jeff's getting a little two into anime? Yeah? I would like yeah,

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Okay, I walk back. We
were having a conversation the other day and

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he referred to Japan as glorious nipon. Oh wow, damn, I meant

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it damn he's I I had Like
the other day, I had a meal

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with him and we were at the
McDonald's and it was very, very weird

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that he started his eating his happy
meal with eata ducky mass and I was

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not happy managing look like, I've
always been a weeb. Everyone knows.

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This just had to wake wake it
out of me. I guess no.

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I would have said that about Japan
even before I went on my anime adventure

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was pretty glorious and fairness. Yeah, I do have a Christism or Jeff,

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that's of a cowboy bebo oh.
Okay, this is the first time

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I've watched the dub. I don't
like the dub. Here's the thing I'm

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going to clarify by saying, the
voices are good, like really good,

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like they are excellent. If you
guys have already like SINCD with the sub,

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it's very difficult to go by.
The problem is I had I had

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the subs on and I could see
the difference is what they're saying, which

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is not bad. But I have
that thing where I know anime it's very

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basic anime production where they need to
say things to match the animation of mouths

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and they to do that, they
add extra words in that feel very unnatural

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yeah, which is also it's like, hey, you don't do that,

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yeah. Yeah. So it'll be
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and the lip syncing is still going, so it'll be like, hey,

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he's getting away, he's getting in
that car. Now let's go. It'll

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be like, oh God, no
one speaks like that. This sounds very

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unnatural. Oh that's interesting. I've
never really considered that that much about matching

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up to the mouths of Yeah.
I think like, if you don't know

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or you don't care about it,
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if you know that's what's happening,
you notice every like clause or like a

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few words that feels feels like it
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voice doesn't end before the animation of
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it's pulling me out of the experience. I would let it. I would

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like to request we go to the
Japanese voices. Well shit. Let me

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just say, well shit, because
I've watched the first two episodes with with

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the Dubs. As per John's advice
and other people who have also supported you

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saying that The Doubs are pretty damn
good as far as dubs go. And

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now am I about to I feel
like pop. Here's what I'm saying.

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We are trying to educate Jeff back
a lot on the joys of watching anime.

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One part of the anime identity is
being just absolutely freakish about dubs versus

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subs. I feel like we owe
it to we owe it to Jeff to

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also turn him into one of these
freaks by making him go to this.

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Think about how much fun you have
saying that's true? That has defined me,

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Jeff, don't listen to these people
this wait. Oh we're divided on

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this, Jesus, I refuse to
even engage in this conversation. The die

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has been cast, the Doubles begun, and anything less now would just be

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messing with Jeff's poor Jeff's fragile little
brain. Oh my god, I how

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about we do you do? How
do you? How do you? How

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does the sound of Rewatching those two
episodes in Japanese sound like? Watch?

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Watch the watch the first two episodes
again, watch one episode like what's theode?

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Okay? Okay? And then and
then you you watch Hebert. You

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watch episode three subbed and then we'll
go what you want to do? Yeah,

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yeah, yeah, and then you
can cool okay, ichfisode three sobbed

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and then let us know in the
discord. I want to watch it,

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write your message so we can.
Okay, that's how we'll play. I

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spend that and then we'll go from
there. That works from if you want

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to stick with dubs, We'll stick
with dubs and I'll mescilessly mock you for

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the rest of your life. Yeah, I mean I want to stay on

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a dub story. That's what I'll
do from the stubs. I will respect

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you for it. Sam. I'm
going to say is that when people get

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will say extremist about subs, those
are not people I want to align myself

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with. I get it. Listen. Yeah, but we need Jeff to

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be aware of it and be you
know, standing up it. But maybe

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the watching of a dub would help
him in that matter. Yeah. Yeah,

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I feel like to know the roads
you shouldn't walk, you need to

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walk them at these once, I
think, yeah, I think it's so.

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I don't know. I think there's
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happening now where I do think it's
important for me to experience a dub,

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which I did with these first two, I didn't realize. I mean I

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think I realized it. For like
live action stuff, where it's like I

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almost always recommend the subs. I
think animation you can get away with it,

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maybe because it's not as one to
one. You know, everything is

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being you know, fabricated in terms
of like the fully work and everything right,

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like you're you're having to put together
this sort of string of of all

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these rich elements, whereas like a
live action thing, it's like you need

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to hear the sound that was recorded
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Yeah, yeah, okay, we'll
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But like I also feel like the
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from the like the audio of the
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one. It's the Japanese version feels
like it's it was actually one incidental character

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in this and it's like he spoke
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Yeah you know, it's like like
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environment. Yeah, I can hear. It feels like an audio track has

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been laid on top of this thing. In a way that is like transposed

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and it's pulling me out of it. But again, we'll stick with the

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plan. Jeff, watch the next
one in Japanese and see how you feel

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let us know, and then we'll
go from there. Got it. Let's

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begin the episode recaps of Cowboy Bebop, beginning with the premiere episode, which

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is called Asta Royd Blues Harmonica and
just Crooner. You know, this episode

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was written by Keiko Nobu Moto and
it is a banger of a open Oh,

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like, you would be hard pushed
to find a better opening episode.

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Like it just encapsulates everything that is
so fucking good about Killboy Bebop well also

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revealing barely anything at all. Yeah, Like at the end of it,

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I was like, oh, I've
learned nothing except that I just want to

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be more around these people, you
know, and that's kind of all you

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really need to accomplish with the pilot
like this, I guess, Yeah,

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before we move on, we should
just do some like basic groundwork stuff as

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well like this. This Cowboy Bebook
is created by Shinuro Watanabe, who is

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a beloved creator an enime of Manga
World is also done Samurai Champloo, which

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is another one that I would love
for us to do. It's Samurai Western,

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but instead of the jazz vibe,
it's hip hop. Fucking rules rips

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so hard. Yeah, I really
want to go back and watch it because

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I watched it when I was young
enough that I think I have more of

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an appreciation of hip hop and stuff
now, so I think i'd like it.

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Yeah. Yeah. Spaced Andy is
another one that people like, which

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is real, real good. It's
like hard to explain what's spaced Andy,

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Like, Jeff, you know,
you know the way you get like the

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Jojo itches, and you want to
keep watching Jojo certainly do if you find

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yourself getting the bebop itches. Space
Dandy would be a good one to go

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watch. Space very dandy. Yeah, very different thing to Bebop, but

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like similar ish similarities. Yeah yeah, not really totally different five but kind

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of like a similar aesthetic, a
similar kind of thing. Yeah. And

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then the other one that I really
really like is Carol and Tuesday, which

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is about these two girls who basically
find each other and become friends through their

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love of music, and it is
wonderful and heartwarming. Are they gals being

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pals? They're just girls being pals, nothing more, nothing those And so

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can I And then can I give
what I believe to be the sort of

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like synopsis of what Cowboy Bebop is, even though I've only seen two episodes,

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please, I feel like it's a
fun experiment to maybe go through.

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So Cowboy Bebop is about a bounty
hunter named Spike and his sort of like

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engineer fixerman Jet who roam the galaxy
in search of collecting bounties. And it's

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sort of like I think the show
is sort of like, you know,

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the bounty of the week kind of
thing, where I don't think so far

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there's going to be any kind of
like overarching seasonal bad guy. Maybe there

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is, I don't know. I
mean, you know, I've only seen

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two and I can't really draw that. And you know, they have like

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a sort of nonchalant relationship with bullets
and death, and they also never seemed

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to catch the guy. They just
seem to like get real close and at

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the end just kind of like fumble
on the goal line and like, you

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know, go on with their day
and they're kind of like scrap for cash,

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strap for cash rather and yeah,
this it's that's it. That's what's

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so let me ask you a question. If this show was twenty six episodes

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of what you just described and like
nothing else, just Bounty of the Week

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didn't catch him, Oh, well
you'd be you'd be down for that.

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I think I'd be okay with that. I'd start to wonder, like,

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how are they surviving? Like how
are they making ends? Meet that dog?

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Well, no, they just talked
about eating that dog. Please don't

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tell me they eat the dog.
Episode five gets grim Jeff, Okay,

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well we'll get there. But anyway, I do think it is here's what

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I also say that just at the
top, and then we can get into

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the granular episode. I think it's
very interesting the musical bed right, the

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choices that they use for all these
action scenes where it's just sort of like

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improv jazz and almost there's like a
ska song almost in one of these episodes.

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But I wonder, like, I
think it is insane how much that

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colors a show, right, how
much that sort of like really defines the

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tone of a show. And I
wonder, like, man, if you

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just ripped out like the whimsical jazz
that plays underneath all of these like chases

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and gunfights, you'd have a much
different show on your hands. So I

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think that's truly fascinating, especially what
I've extracted this early on. Yes,

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so distracted an incredible phrase. How
why bob Up takes place in a world

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where Earth is basically uninhabitable. So
people have taken to the stars and they've

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colonized various other planets, and as
a result of that, there's been kind

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of like a crime epidemic, and
there's an interest like solar system police and

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bounty hunters which are called cowboys,
and basically it is what you explained.

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They chase criminals, bring them in
and such as the life of a cowboy

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Our's story. Asteroid Blues, Episode
one begins with Spikes Eagel. He's in

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a church of some kind. There's
church bells ringing and a bouquet of flowers

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is being carried down this streets.
But that Bokay also hides inside it a

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gun, and pretty immediately we see
several people being killed. There's a there's

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a when he runs out of bullets, and when he does that, like

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there's a he does he pull out
a grenade? Is it grenade? Yeah?

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Yeah? He pulls the pin on
one and kind of gives a bloody

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smile. Yeah, he does a
little smile, and that's all we see

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of that moment. Cut to another
scene, and we've got the Bebop traveling

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through hyperspace. It's kind of like
near Mars, and we're introduced to Jet

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Black, one of the supporting characters
or key characters main characters of the show,

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who tells Spike that dinner's ready.
Spike ass ways, he's currently like

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practicing martial arts. He's like stretching
and limber Spike very spelt man. Yeah,

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very scene boy. Yeah, yeah, but clearly familiar were of self

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defense and martial arts. Ready to
replenish his muscles, and he's told that

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Jet has made his specialty, which
is bell peppers and beef. Jet also

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kind of once they go into like
their seating area, he tells Spike about

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their next target, Asimov Solinson Asthmov
being a reference to Isaac Asimov, the

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author who's part of Asimov is part
of a syndicate who killed his own men

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in a confrontation between his group and
an enemy syndicate. Spike is like,

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uh, yeah, cool, but
there's no meat. There's no beef in

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this spell Pepper didn't know what's going
on? Would you actually eat that?

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Yeah, Bell Pepperson beef like it
sounds okay, but not wouldn't like a

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stir fry. Sure. I feel
like when you live in a world where

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food is like space, food is
probably shits something like Bell Pepper and beef

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is a staple. Yeah, but
like you seem like there are onions in

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there too, Like I think I
can get down with that. I want

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to turn it down. Some high
quality olive oil in there yet, Yeah,

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you're gonna be okay. Yeah.
So Spike complains that they should have

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loads of money from their last bounty
to you know, avoid having situations like

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this, but Jet is basically like, well we did, but then you

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cause a whole lot of damage to
cruiser ships and there was medical bills and

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police officers got injured, so we
had to pay for that ship. So

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that's why they're having the money.
It's a really simple scene, but when

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you look at how much community or
how much information is being communicated about these

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characters with like every fucking sentence,
it's like it's kind of masterful and it

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doesn't feel like yet, Like it
doesn't feel like an exposition dump, but

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just feels like a conversation between these
two people. But it's so like,

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oh, this is their dynamic Spike
does this, Jet does this? Jets

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responsible one, Spice kind of like
it's all in there. It's really cool

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comprehension rather than saying which I really
appreciate because I think, you know,

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in a lot of modern media especially, it's something we've lost, like there's

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always a tendency to over explain everything, and so for them just to be

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like, oh no, this is
you just dropping in on them. This

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is what a regular day for them
looks like, is something I love.

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Certainly troubling Spike doesn't seem to understand
that there are consequences to actions, so

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that's one into their relationship. But
okay, that's one of the main things

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we learn about Spike is like he
seems to be kind of aloof in a

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lot of ways. We also learned
the things that we learn is like he's

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clearly quite fit and versed in martial
arts. Yeah. Yeah, we learned

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that kind of their ongoing struggle is
with money and making ends meet, and

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Spike is also a bit reckless.
So the next bit Jet carries on kind

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of briefing him on the next target, and Asimov has gone to Tijuana TJ.

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Spike says that he doesn't want to
do small jobs, having looked at

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as the most bounty of two point
five million wolongs. But Jet is like,

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we we gotta do this, and
he convinces Spike to go to TJ

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by telling him that the Karnetas are
out of this world and so so Earth

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exists, like people are there,
I exists. It's not particularly great to

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be I believe it mostly has become
uninhabitable. And culture, the same cultures

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that we have now have kind of
like exploded into space in a lot of

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way. So you get to see
things like you'll see Japanese and you'll see

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like Western staff mashed with Chinese,
and yeah, even even the way like

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a lot of the characters dress.
It's like there there's mission smash of like

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different fashions and different cultures, and
it's like it's so good. Is there?

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I always get nerdy about this.
Is there like any indication of like

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what year it could possibly be?
Yeah, it takes place in twenty seventy

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one, twenty seventy one. Yeah, I mean there's a bit where you

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see. No, I don't think
it's this place. I think it's the

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next place. But he walks up
to It's like this place is established in

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twenty twenty five. Yeah, obvious
important thing to keep in mind is like

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that was felt much further away when
this show was of course aginally made,

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and we're like, of course approaching
it. Yeah, this is it's that

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same sort of back to the future
effects, also a kind of beautiful future

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where the Internet kind of doesn't really
exist. Yeah, it's it's it's almost

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alternate history no Internet. You can
have an alternate history and an alternate future

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no Internet. But Bell, Pepper
and Beef is absolutely normal, which is

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well. Yeah, so the ship
comes out of hyperspace and and Jet is

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like he's he's like gathering information still, and Spike hops in a ship,

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the Swordfish, and away he goes
He's going to see Laughing Ball. Meanwhile,

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on Tijuana, Asimov enters the l
Ray Bar with First alone, and

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then we see he's with a woman
who is pregnant. Her name is Katrina

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Dolinson or Katarina. In the bar, there's three older men who are sitting

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there talking about building a wall,
was it or building wall Yeah, they

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were, Yeah, they were.
They were like reminiscing about like it's okay,

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it's a it's a space wall.
Let's to keep everyone together. Yeah,

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to keep space everyone from flowing away. Yeah. One thing that really

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like struck me just in this whole
sequence is like, how beautiful. So

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many of these drawings are oh my
god, no, amazing, even like

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those old men. Each of those
old men are wearing clothes that they've had

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way too long, that are all
stretched out and that they can't really fit

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into write anymore. And even the
way that's illustrated, so you know that

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those are these kind of guys.
Like, I think that's what made me

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think ful element is like that attention
to detail, with the painstaking amount of

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like you know, stuff crammed into
every frame. You know, I think

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it's awesome. I did. I
definitely think like I can understand I see

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that fifth element like world building detail. Yes, and this scene is actually

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an homage to Robert Rodriguez Desperado.
Oh okay. The bar in this that

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they go to el Ray is a
replica of the bar in that movie,

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which was phil filmed in Akuna,
Akuni, Acuna. That's apologies, obviously,

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Asimov looks a bit like El Mariachi
played by Antonio Bandius. He's got

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the long hair, he's got a
dark colored wardrobe, and he's traveling with

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a Hispanic woman who looks a little
bit like Salma Hike. And he goes

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on to basically defeat single handedly a
bunch of mercenaries, which is almost the

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same thing, pretty much the same
thing as Desperado, but rolling back a

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bit, so he goes to him
and his girlfriend approached the bar. Old

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men are talking about, you know, who helped build this wall, and

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kind of like these whipper snappers wouldn't
be here today if if we didn't do

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this hard work. Asimofsis Down makes
an order for vodka and tomato juice.

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Bartiner says, don't have any tomato
juice, I believe, which is basically

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them talking in code to begin a
deal of some sort. You guys like

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a bloody Mary drink, gross,
I'll taste it every now and then because

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I feel like they do differ from
bartender to our tender. But it is

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not a drink of choice by any
stretch. I mean, the only time

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I would try one would be what
if I'm on a plane and my my

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taste buds are dull. I'm not
a big fan of tomorrow, Like in't

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that? What's what do you guys
go to drink? To the people who

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drink, well, usually a beer, but a cocktail drink. I'm a

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vodka dirty martini. I love a
glass of wine. I live a glass

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of white wine. I if I'm
out and about and it's a cocktail man,

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you'll probably get a meal. I
don't mean like drinking beer if I'm

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out in public, because it makes
me gassy, but I do enjoy it

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same. I can drink three beers
and I'm so ghassy, like I'm going

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to bed. Yeah, bloody Mary
is one of those drinks. As someone

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who doesn't drink that occasionally how to
look hot and go like that seems like

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it could be interesting. I do
like, but that's based on a visual

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of it, and it seems like
it's like kind of spicy and a little

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bit. Yeah it can be.
Yeah, that's I really love a good

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whiskey seur. But the line between
good whiskey seur and bad whiskey seur it's

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really thin, and a lot of
places do not do them right. I

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don't think a lot of places doing
good non alcoholic cocktails these days. Oh

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yeah, it's real good. Yeah, we went to that place in San

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Francisco. Didn't mean that man was
a mango drink that was Yeah, that

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was really good. There's also a
place in San Francisco that does non alcoholic

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like champagne, wine like whiskey and
that kind of stuff, which is wild.

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I went in there and did try
the non alcoholic wine and it was

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what I imagine wine taste like.
And the lady who was working there was

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like, the only thing that we
haven't figured out is how to give it

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body yet, which is like,
that's interesting. It's like slightly thinner to

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drink than most wine. Probably doesn't
have that thickness. Probably, like we're

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working on it with the non alcoholic
alcoholic is figuring out. H So the

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the kind of conversation is a signal
to go around the back and talk about

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a deal. Bartender goes around the
back and they start a transaction to buy

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and sell something called bloody eye.
And as the bartender requests a demonstration of

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the bloody eye, he kind of
like whips it out and and starts to

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take it by He like sprays it
into his eye did not like that.

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Yeah, I thought we were going
to get I mean, I've seen it

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before, but I always forget that
it's like a spray, but the way

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that it goes, I thought we
were going to get the like the dead

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space too. Yeah. Yeah,
yeah, they tease you at the top

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there, They're like, this is
going right in there, you know,

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really interesting way of taking a drug, right. I don't think i've seen

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any other fiction at you remember in
Eyeball Pool No what's that from Kevin and

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Perry Go Large, which was a
movie that was always played on like ITV

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two in the middle of the night. There was a guy called Eyeball Pool.

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It's not a good film, and
I think it will hold up terribly.

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Yeah. Almost. But there's a
character who would have a shot of

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vodka and he just put it in
his eye. Ibaw pol another another kind

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of that, that horrifying thing outside. This is like another good bit of

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world building for Cowboy beep up.
The administration of the drug. It's a

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little attention to details, striking like
stays in your mind as much of this

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show does. Yeah, And there's
so many little like mechanical things like that

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in the show, like even just
like how the like panels on the ship's

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work and how like all the gears
and switches. Yeah, I really like

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that. There's one scene where you
can see the panel of the ship that

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Asimov is in and you can see
like the squares laid on top of each

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other to almost show like the ideal
flight path that you need to be in

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when you're flying. It's like really
cool and like in my brain, I

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was like, I really want to
pilot a ship through they'll skate the squiz,

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but it's it's not happening. There's
there's some it's like this are appreciation

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of like machinery going on, like
just like vents opening, like flaps,

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you know, just that kind of
stuff like such a like you can tell

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right away that the people behind this
and I don't know because I know,

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like a rock it was like a
one man show kind of thing, right,

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but like there's got to be some
kind of wildly cohesive agreement and shared

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vision that is being executed here.
That's like I was well done. In

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all likelihood, there's probably one person
on that staff and they love machinery more

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than you love whatever you love.
Yeah. Yeah, Often, like it

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does come down to one person,
as John indicated, like the creator and

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like especially with the way manga and
then like an anime can work, it's

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like it's always comes from the mind
of one person and they have a team

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to help execute on that vision.
But who knows with this one glad to

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hear that the flaps are exciting.
You love those flaps, baby, Yeah.

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So while that's happening, there's like
a group of men that are surrounding

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the bar and they just open fire. Immediately the bartender is shot through the

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head. But Asimov is at this
point, he's under the influence of bloody

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Eye or in the dub they call
it blood Eye, which I'm not fan

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of, and it basically his vision
goes completely read but everything looks slow motion

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to him, and he's like physically
more powerful. So he just starts tearing

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through all these people. He's like
dodging punches. He's like last minute getting

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out of the way of bullets and
recks this bar elsewhere complete contrast to what's

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happening in that bar, Spike's Bagel
is sitting on the ground with a pipe

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in his mouth smoking, his stomach
is growling, and he's sitting in front

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of bull who is like doing some
sort of kind of like reading bullet outstretches

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the hands, pouring sand on the
floor, and then tells Spike that he's

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going to find a red eyed coyote
at the north end of the town and

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that he will be targeted by a
woman and death will follow, which is

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an ominous prediction. But Spike is
really concerned. He's like, I've already

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died once because of a woman,
which is an interesting yeah, which is

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like I paused on that for a
second. I was like, Okay,

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that's just say out loud. I
guess that's important. Did like this man

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is cooler than we can an then
we could ever dream. I'm noticing,

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like all of our heroes have been
cool. Spike Spiegel is the coolest anime

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man speak. His last name is
Spiegel Spiegel. Yeah, he's he's I

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have a figure of it behind me. I bet you didn't, And like

404
00:33:13.759 --> 00:33:16.599
he is number one cool guy oka
of anime? Did that that? What

405
00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:22.880
is that triggering you, Jeff?
That he was Jewish? Well, you've

406
00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:27.319
been dieing once from a woman means
that you're Jewish? Oh no, Spiegel,

407
00:33:27.799 --> 00:33:32.279
Okay, Spike Spiegel sounds like a
Jewish guy. Yeah, what did

408
00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:36.880
that kind of like throw it?
Oh, like that he died already,

409
00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:40.920
Like I don't know, like he's
certainly I don't think it's a throwaway line

410
00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:45.599
or maybe it's sort of like never
just just throw that into a casual conversation

411
00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:49.400
like I never go up to someone
and being like I've been dead before and

412
00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:52.000
it's because of the opposite sex.
I don't know. Hey, no,

413
00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:54.839
no, I was literally in a
car with someone yesterday. We were chatting

414
00:33:54.920 --> 00:34:00.480
and he's talking about this like fun
trip he went on, and he just

415
00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:04.640
threw in and I was dying at
the time, and the ChIL is fine.

416
00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:06.240
He had it, sow it,
but it was, you know,

417
00:34:06.279 --> 00:34:08.679
one of those you couldn't be dying
and then not die and then you know,

418
00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:14.719
make a great recovery. We're all
dying. But didn't. But it

419
00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:21.400
didn't start to connect any thoughts for
you. Not, I mean, the

420
00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:27.360
opening scene didn't come to mind.
No, well, well there you go.

421
00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:30.679
We watch it in Japanese, yeah, because I mean it starts with

422
00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:35.960
him in a rough spot, so
you know, oh man, you now

423
00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:39.679
I'm starting to put together things and
you're okay, don't don't don't spoil it.

424
00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:44.559
That was the spoiler that it's on
the screen. It's in the apisode.

425
00:34:44.559 --> 00:34:46.719
I most scene. Dumb dumb brain
didn't put it together. Yeah,

426
00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:51.480
maybe that's what happens when I watched
something in the morning, I guess.

427
00:34:51.519 --> 00:34:57.199
But did you try watching this with
Stacy watching this? Yeah? Uh,

428
00:34:57.440 --> 00:35:00.880
the time of day that I'm watching
it, she's sort of just like out

429
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:04.960
having her coffee. Yeah, I
feel like she she'll probably enjoy this.

430
00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:08.480
Yeah, Like I would love to
hear her opinions, especially in contrast to

431
00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:14.320
the things that she's seen you all
the way she's seen you consume jojo and

432
00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:16.599
what she knows of it. I'd
love to hear her because this is like

433
00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:22.760
almost secondhand smoke anime learning or like
amibi and anime learning for her, though,

434
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:24.719
I don't know. Yeah, maybe
she'd be a little more considered and

435
00:35:24.719 --> 00:35:29.199
adjustice so she can enjoy something with
her husband. Yeah. I was like

436
00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:34.199
beaming about it to her in between
episode one and two, But now you

437
00:35:34.239 --> 00:35:37.440
got me thinking about the fucking like
with the wedding and stuff, and it's

438
00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:42.000
like, oh shit, yeah,
what happened? Okay, Well, look,

439
00:35:42.280 --> 00:35:47.039
sometimes I'm really persiptive, like so
much information times. Yeah, aren't

440
00:35:47.039 --> 00:35:51.920
we all? Yeah? Right,
And then sometimes I'm just like, oh,

441
00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:57.280
maybe Bruce Willis is dead the whole
time, So actually I got that

442
00:35:57.320 --> 00:36:00.039
pretty early. But spikeheads out and
balls like me, may he be blessed

443
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:07.039
by work on tanker. Jet meanwhile
arrives at the bar where Asimov went on

444
00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:10.000
his rampage and grabs up drink and
he's like, I'll take this on the

445
00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:14.559
house and starts drinking. Then two
more Syndicate people arrive and they're like,

446
00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:19.159
oh shit, Asimov has been at
it again. We need to He's unstoppable.

447
00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:22.559
Basically, Jet has hidden behind the
bar and he's like just listening to

448
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:28.519
what they're talking about about Asimov and
his plan and and like they them needing

449
00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:31.360
to get the Bloody Eye back.
And I feel like this scene is kind

450
00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:35.639
of like like they've showed you that
Jet's like responsible, like you know,

451
00:36:35.679 --> 00:36:38.199
you see that on the ship,
and then here it's like he sees like

452
00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:43.079
a massacre and the first thing he
does is just lifts some drinks from the

453
00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:45.079
bar, and it's like it's it's
through the show saying to you, this

454
00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:47.920
guy's cool too, Yeah, Yeah, he's cool. He's seen some shit.

455
00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:52.519
Yeah, this guy has been through
enough shit that this is normal for

456
00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:57.519
him. And it's also kind of
like a thing where it's like, oh,

457
00:36:57.559 --> 00:36:59.880
when he's out in the world,
he'll have some fun as well,

458
00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:04.000
and because he like pops up and
he knocks one of them out with a

459
00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:06.320
bottle of water and then grabs the
other and a headlock and he's like,

460
00:37:06.360 --> 00:37:12.480
tell me more about this planet,
which is fun. So Asimov basically stole

461
00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:16.760
the Bloody Eye and from a syndicate
and legged it and the goal was to

462
00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:22.679
sell it and move on. Spike, meanwhile, is stops at a gas

463
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:27.239
station and he takes a purse and
when he comes out to wash his hand,

464
00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:30.360
Asamof is standing there, and there's
a real tension in this scene where

465
00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:36.880
Asamof is like shaking from the calmdown
of the Bloody Eye and he's like on

466
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:42.039
edge, still ready to attack,
and he's trying to figure out whether Spike

467
00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:45.119
is a threat or not because he
they've not met before and he doesn't know

468
00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:46.760
that Spike is about he hard nut. Spike is being cool as fuck.

469
00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:51.719
It just comes out, washes his
hand and says something like it's better to

470
00:37:51.800 --> 00:37:54.400
leave the tap running. So there's
something about that exchange. I like,

471
00:37:54.480 --> 00:38:00.039
I first saw this episode like twenty
years ago or something like long long time

472
00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:04.480
ago, and this little exchange in
the bathroom. I don't know why it

473
00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:08.079
has always just stood out to me
so clearly. Yeah, I think it's

474
00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:10.199
how do you mean clearly? What
do you mean? As in I just

475
00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:14.880
remember so much about it, Like
you know, like the drawings of like

476
00:38:14.920 --> 00:38:17.239
Asimoth like all kind of shaky over
this scene, and I guess the kind

477
00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:21.679
of like the subtle tension to it, but most of all the line where

478
00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:25.840
Spike's like, if you leave the
water running stops it getting because it's like

479
00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:30.760
it's such a mundane thing to say, but I guess it's nearly kind of

480
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:35.719
like that. It kind of relieves
the tension of the scene a little bit.

481
00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:37.079
It does. It's also kind of
like a distract. It's like so

482
00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:39.719
much again, like so much is
happening in this scene. One we get

483
00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:45.320
to see like how Spike is good
at reading people. But I also feel

484
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:50.800
like it's a kind of small it
Maybe I'm interpreting it in my way,

485
00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:53.880
but I feel like it's a it's
a nod to Bruce Lee because we see

486
00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:59.239
him earlier and he's like practicing,
and he's got very Bruce Lee like vibe

487
00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:01.400
to him, and it was the
most well known Bruce Lee quotes is like,

488
00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:05.800
be water, my friend, you
know what you need to flow,

489
00:39:05.800 --> 00:39:07.360
et cetera. When he's talking about
fighting, And the rest of this episode

490
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:13.119
is kind of them showing how Spike
is able to like stand his ground as

491
00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:15.239
well as being about hunt. So
that's what I kind of read it as

492
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:17.760
a little bit. But I think
he also in one of the later episodes

493
00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:22.320
he literally says be water. Yeah. Yeah, he references it again,

494
00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:30.119
but so that that bit of advice
was to not clog the drains. Spike

495
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:35.440
walks away whistling, nothing's going on, No, no fight happens. While

496
00:39:35.480 --> 00:39:38.679
walking back to the ship, he
runs into Katrina and kind of bumps into

497
00:39:38.760 --> 00:39:44.559
her and helps her pick up a
food and starts applying what the kids call

498
00:39:44.760 --> 00:39:50.320
the riz. Oh man, Spike's
got riz coming out. He's not even

499
00:39:50.360 --> 00:39:55.039
trying, and it's just everywhere man's. By the end of this yeah,

500
00:39:55.079 --> 00:40:01.719
he's raise. No, there's the
mopping part of the little graphic, but

501
00:40:01.800 --> 00:40:07.800
that's okay. They're laughing together Asimov
is watching from Afar. I really like

502
00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:15.639
Katrina about her, like, yeah, it's there's something so fucking tragic about

503
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:19.679
her, I think because she's wait, hang on, Jeff, what what

504
00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:25.280
were you going for there? Boobies? He's looking at boobies. She's very

505
00:40:27.360 --> 00:40:30.519
she's very sexy. I don't know
what else to say, like, Jeff,

506
00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:36.480
and this is like, but that's
not it. I don't used to

507
00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:39.760
be salacious. Okay, yeah,
I don't like her, like I don't

508
00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:47.400
like her pregnancy bullets. But other
than that, likes, uh, there's

509
00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:52.480
there's one bit of read like earlier
when it's asim off and the bartender go

510
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:54.679
in and she just kind of leans
over it and just like steals a little

511
00:40:54.679 --> 00:40:58.039
bit of the foam from the beer. Not the titty shot, Jeff.

512
00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:04.960
She gives a little beards so cute. It's great. I love that.

513
00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:07.199
John. Lucy and I are like, she just wants to escape this life

514
00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:10.760
and get to Mars, and you
know, she's unfortunately fallen in love with

515
00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:17.079
someone who's you know, a unwholesome
person and it's a tragic like almost kind

516
00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:22.440
of doomed to failure and kind of
story. And meanwhile, Jeff is like

517
00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:25.840
boy yo yo yo yoo. Yeah, female Jeff is turning into the fucking

518
00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:31.760
techsage very well. Yeah, first
of all, I'm very sparing with those

519
00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:37.559
comments, but sometimes they need to
be said. That's that. Yeah,

520
00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:43.239
Yeah, it is tragic though tragic
story, especially the end. It's tragic.

521
00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:45.880
After bumping into Katrina and putting a
rise on her, he's kind of

522
00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:47.519
like helping her put her groceries back
into the thing, and he turns and

523
00:41:47.559 --> 00:41:52.840
walks away and see you later,
and she looks down and goes and and

524
00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:58.119
Spikes turns around and he's got an
entire hot dog in his mouth again food

525
00:41:58.119 --> 00:42:01.559
motivated, doesn't have much opportunity to
eat, is always hungry well, and

526
00:42:01.760 --> 00:42:07.119
is a bit of a thief.
This is to show that he has slight

527
00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:12.199
of hand, which will come into
use later on. He like takes the

528
00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:15.320
hot dog out, and then a
bunch of packets of cigarettes also, and

529
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:19.079
he's like, you want these as
well, and she like laughs at him

530
00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:24.960
a little bit. They talk about
like a she they walk to Spike's ship,

531
00:42:25.039 --> 00:42:29.119
right, and he's like telling her
about the ship a little bit,

532
00:42:29.360 --> 00:42:31.159
and she's talking about how she wants
to go to Mars and it will be

533
00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:37.119
nice. And then Spike is like
only the rich are truly happy, and

534
00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:44.840
which is a kind of hint at
the hierarchical structure of the world that will

535
00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:51.039
be more delved into later on,
hopefully. And then the conversation eventually takes

536
00:42:51.039 --> 00:42:55.320
a turn when his Spike changes his
tone and reveals that, you know,

537
00:42:57.320 --> 00:43:00.440
she's not going to get anywhere,
and he's like the tone change is enough

538
00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:08.119
for her to realize that he's a
bounty hunter and yeah, he Asimov appears

539
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:14.679
from behind and like starts strangling him
early. Yeah, it was pretty narly,

540
00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:17.079
and for a minute it looks like
it's over, Like it looks like

541
00:43:17.119 --> 00:43:25.400
he's done. Katrina basically begs him
to let go, and asimof does,

542
00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:30.239
but as he's falling. As Spike
is falling to the ground, we see

543
00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:36.079
his hand kind of just brushed by
Asimov's jacket, which is sick. He's

544
00:43:36.159 --> 00:43:38.760
like barely conscious and he's just sort
of like you oink. Yeah. Yeah.

545
00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:44.639
So again almost an immediate payoff for
the sleight of hand thing that we

546
00:43:44.679 --> 00:43:51.760
see in a comedy context us in
a serious context. Again, like Jeff

547
00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:55.360
said, like he although he's a
goof, he's also got presence of mind

548
00:43:55.599 --> 00:44:00.599
and understands the assignment and we'll stick
to it. Yeah, it's got rised

549
00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:06.599
as well. Asimov is talking to
Katrina and he's jealous because of the way

550
00:44:06.639 --> 00:44:09.440
she interacted with Spike and the fact
that he didn't let her kill him.

551
00:44:09.480 --> 00:44:13.079
He wanted to kill him. Katrina
is just like, I just want to

552
00:44:13.079 --> 00:44:15.760
go to Mars. I don't want
to draw any more heat. Spike,

553
00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:20.360
meanwhile, is just on the ground. He's taken the opportunity to just have

554
00:44:20.400 --> 00:44:27.840
a little nap even though he's not. Yeah, and he's covered by a

555
00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:34.599
shadow which is Jet, and then
Jet is telling Spike about Asimov and everything

556
00:44:34.679 --> 00:44:37.440
that he's learned and how he's trying
to get a bloody blood eye bloody eye,

557
00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:42.480
and then Spike, in a very
very cool way, just kind of

558
00:44:42.519 --> 00:44:45.719
like pulls out the bloody eye and
like flicks it around on his finger and

559
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:46.679
he's like, yeah, he's gonna
setle some of this. So it's just

560
00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:52.400
like the two threads are now being
tied together in a really cool, elegant

561
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:57.480
way. Spike gets up and he's
like stretching, reveals all that, and

562
00:44:57.519 --> 00:45:01.079
then says and repeats bulls phrasing about
on the north side of the city and

563
00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:07.920
a meeting a woman. In the
actual Japanese they called the area that they're

564
00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:13.119
going to meet a Zona Norte,
but in the subs they just or in

565
00:45:13.159 --> 00:45:19.199
the actual or dubbing they just say
north Side. No one seems to ever

566
00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:23.679
mention Zona Norte in the English version, less I missed it. The ice

567
00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:29.360
asp the cops basically are such for
Asthma as well as the syndicate men and

568
00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:35.559
Spike and Jet as well. So
we've got three person or three group collision

569
00:45:35.639 --> 00:45:45.679
about to happen. There's a bit
later where they appear at another bar and

570
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:50.199
he's like staging a fake drug deal, so he's wearing Spike is like sitting

571
00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:52.159
down on a bench and he's wearing
a poncho and he's got his hat very

572
00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:58.440
low over his head and he's wearing
a sombrero and a poncho ya, and

573
00:45:58.519 --> 00:46:04.400
that is a sombrero I think is
a reference to the Man with No Name

574
00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:12.119
trilogy, the Clint Eastwood Sergio Yeah, which obviously a huge, huge influence

575
00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:17.760
on this. And it ends with
a Spike throwing the revealing that he's about

576
00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:22.000
a hunter to Asimov asim of being
surprised he's still there. He throws the

577
00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:23.760
bloody eye into the air and then
pulls out a gun and shoots it out

578
00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:30.400
of the air, which looks again
cool as fuck, And then a fight

579
00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:34.639
begins, a hand to hand fight, which I think is one of the

580
00:46:34.639 --> 00:46:37.760
greatest scenes in anime history. Like
you just think, did the table flip

581
00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:45.199
bit flip? The animation that goes
crazy? Watched it? Like the way

582
00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:49.719
Spike is moving, like yeah,
and like he's moving the camera is moving

583
00:46:49.719 --> 00:46:52.760
almost the opposite way, and his
like poncho is like swaying in the wind,

584
00:46:53.119 --> 00:46:57.559
the hat coming off, and like
the reveal at the same time as

585
00:46:57.599 --> 00:47:00.320
that song coming in. Oh my, it's crazy because like if you compare

586
00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:04.159
it to like a lot of modern
animation, not all like there is really

587
00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:07.119
good modern stuff being made as well, but a lot of modern animation,

588
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:09.960
there's a very like float charted approach
to making a scene feel epic, and

589
00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:14.159
it's a lot of lighting, it's
a lot of compositing, it's a lot

590
00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:17.360
of like you know, moving camera, and it's just fucking incredible how a

591
00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:21.480
scene like this, which is really
little more than just a camera and some

592
00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:28.119
animation blows it all away. Like
this is so hard to like come up

593
00:47:28.119 --> 00:47:31.639
with scenes that are better than this. Yeah. The song that plays is

594
00:47:31.639 --> 00:47:36.920
one of my favorites. It's called
Rush on the Cowboy Bebop soundtrack ost One,

595
00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:38.199
So if you want to listen to
that, you can find that very

596
00:47:38.239 --> 00:47:43.719
easily on YouTube or whatever. Just
search for Rush. Yeah, it's on

597
00:47:43.800 --> 00:47:49.039
Spotify as well. And it slaps
so hard, Oh my god. Yeah,

598
00:47:49.039 --> 00:47:52.280
So we get that fight, and
this is where he tells Asimov that

599
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:58.719
he's not focused and that he's not
a chameleon, so he can't see everything,

600
00:47:58.760 --> 00:48:01.719
which goes back to that vision of
his eyes popping out when he takes

601
00:48:01.760 --> 00:48:06.719
the bloody eye, and of his
creams have their eye eyes raised and they

602
00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:14.239
can swivel them to see more.
And Spike just handles him like so badly.

603
00:48:14.440 --> 00:48:16.760
Like compared to the last fight where
it was like overwhelming and strength,

604
00:48:16.800 --> 00:48:22.159
we actually see how how nimble Spike
is. He's like leaping over table,

605
00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:28.159
using it as leverage to spin kick
and delivering these like rapid fire jabs and

606
00:48:28.199 --> 00:48:30.920
it is brutal. Yeah, and
it's so cool because like you can really

607
00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:36.000
feel Asimov's like desperation, like he's
so close to getting out of here,

608
00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:39.599
but Spike's just so chill, so
easy going. Yeah, and he's like

609
00:48:40.239 --> 00:48:45.079
he can't keep up with Spike either, which is world. There's there's almost

610
00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:54.920
like there's almost like a some of
the animation made me think of like late

611
00:48:55.800 --> 00:49:01.199
like seventies Disney animation, you know
what. Yeah, when it's like hand

612
00:49:01.239 --> 00:49:07.239
animated, lots of frames drawn together, right, we're like like snow snow

613
00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:10.400
white. It's like it's always like
the forties, right or something crazy.

614
00:49:10.920 --> 00:49:15.159
But like, I mean they used
to use a lot of human referenced stuff,

615
00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:20.320
right, Like there's just there seems
like there's so many cells, like

616
00:49:20.599 --> 00:49:23.239
so many you know, I don't
know how they measure that in animation,

617
00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:29.639
but like it's the mixture of like
it looks so smooth the animation, but

618
00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:34.000
there is obviously a hand drawn quality
to it. Yeah, so it looks

619
00:49:34.079 --> 00:49:37.480
like, you know, the human. It feels and looks like a human,

620
00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:40.480
did it, Like especially in the
paper right, and with Asthma's like

621
00:49:40.719 --> 00:49:44.880
eyes too, and like the sort
of flow with the hair, Like there's

622
00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:50.159
something it's very disney asque, like
old school disney asque about him and the

623
00:49:50.199 --> 00:49:52.000
way he was drawn. It's really
really cool. While this fight is happening,

624
00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:57.679
Katrina is there, and she's trying
to like we see the viewpoint from

625
00:49:57.719 --> 00:50:00.440
down the barrel of her gun.
She's trying to find a point to shoot

626
00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:02.639
out Spike, but isn't able to
do it because he's moving really fast and

627
00:50:02.679 --> 00:50:07.079
he's almost like it looks like he's
pivoting in a way to keep Asimov like

628
00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:10.400
in the frame as well, so
she can't get a clear shot at him,

629
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which is really cool. And then
as that happened is happening, we

630
00:50:14.320 --> 00:50:19.039
get the third party in this kind
of struggle appear. The gang members show

631
00:50:19.119 --> 00:50:22.559
up and they start getting in on
the fight, which makes Asimof and Katrina

632
00:50:22.679 --> 00:50:30.400
leggate. They grab a vehicle and
just start to bail, but before Katrina

633
00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:32.400
is able to get in, she
is shot in the belly, and we

634
00:50:32.559 --> 00:50:37.039
finally see that she's not actually pregnant. That bump on her stomach is just

635
00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:43.960
holding all the bloody eye that Asimov
stole from. Oh it's the bloody eye.

636
00:50:44.760 --> 00:50:47.519
Yeah, I thought, like,
bumpy, is that what you said?

637
00:50:47.559 --> 00:50:53.920
Bullet pregnancy? Bullet pregnancy. Yeah, so they look like shotgun shells,

638
00:50:54.199 --> 00:50:59.440
yeah, they do, kind of. They do telegraph it quite so

639
00:50:59.599 --> 00:51:01.400
stupid. Why I would think,
why, like why would she be like,

640
00:51:01.519 --> 00:51:07.119
she's just the criminals, Like Lucy
is right, it looks very the

641
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:10.000
bump looks very smooth for what's in
there. Oh totally, yeah, yeah,

642
00:51:10.039 --> 00:51:15.079
totally. So they get into the
car that look, the bloody eyes

643
00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:17.280
are spilling out of her. She's
doing her best to keep it in keep

644
00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:21.079
as many as she can. They
get in and Asimov turns to her and

645
00:51:21.599 --> 00:51:27.320
starts berating her for losing the bloody
eye and not like being worried that she

646
00:51:27.440 --> 00:51:31.960
was shot at and hit, which
you can see her realize something in that

647
00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:37.599
moment, and it seems like she's
realized that they're both too far gone and

648
00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:43.280
he's only in it for the deal, and he's been overcome by the they've

649
00:51:43.360 --> 00:51:45.639
at various points they referenced that he's
been using his own supply. He's been

650
00:51:45.639 --> 00:51:50.800
getting high off his own supply,
and it's impacting him. So whoever Asimov

651
00:51:51.039 --> 00:51:54.840
was before this hole happened, the
person that Katrina fell in love with and

652
00:51:54.920 --> 00:51:59.440
try to escape with, we don't
see that. Yeah, we don't see

653
00:51:59.480 --> 00:52:01.559
the full on the include story.
We just see the ending as it's just

654
00:52:01.599 --> 00:52:07.159
about to use that. It's really
interesting, Tim because like I always view

655
00:52:07.480 --> 00:52:14.239
Cowboy Bebop as like, like we
we haven't met all our main characters yet,

656
00:52:14.280 --> 00:52:17.199
but for the three main ones,
it really feels like this entire series

657
00:52:17.320 --> 00:52:22.480
in a way is really like an
epilogue to the rest of their lives.

658
00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:25.159
Yeah, you know, like they're
not going on a big quest. It's

659
00:52:25.239 --> 00:52:30.280
not that it's something else. We'll
come back to that later. I'm sure

660
00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:35.800
I was. I was surprised that, like she had to go too,

661
00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:37.719
you know, yeah, yeah,
I mean, like, this is gonna

662
00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:43.400
get arrested, is what happens.
So we're gonna power through this part ending

663
00:52:43.400 --> 00:52:49.119
it which jet arise with the Hammerhead
and to save Spike in this whole thing,

664
00:52:49.960 --> 00:52:53.480
and Spike is able to get away
and retreat because of that, asim

665
00:52:53.480 --> 00:52:58.880
Off takes more bloody Eye and a
Spike is on their tail and they go

666
00:52:58.920 --> 00:53:02.760
into space and there's a massive blockade
of ISSP cruisers that they just know they

667
00:53:02.800 --> 00:53:07.400
will never get through. As they're
trying to leave the astral gate of Tijouana,

668
00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:10.880
and she realizes that it's not going
to happen, and she pulls out

669
00:53:10.880 --> 00:53:15.440
a gun and then we see from
the outside of a ship just the sound

670
00:53:15.480 --> 00:53:19.000
of a gun shot and the flash
of it and it stops. Yeah,

671
00:53:19.039 --> 00:53:22.480
it's so good. It stops.
Spike in like he's he's like horrified by

672
00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:25.719
what he's just heard. And then
like they he kind of like his ship

673
00:53:25.800 --> 00:53:30.840
slowly drifts to catch up to theirs
and she you see that a Katrina is

674
00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:37.159
cradling a dead asthm off in her
hands and she's looking at Spike and then

675
00:53:37.480 --> 00:53:42.039
and then she says, is it
see you spasically and then she just says

676
00:53:42.039 --> 00:53:45.880
adios. She says adios, and
then that's it. We hear we see

677
00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:51.719
that they're done. Cut back to
the Beebop, get a real nice shot

678
00:53:51.719 --> 00:53:58.920
of her as well, like kind
of drifting, yeah, yes, rough.

679
00:53:59.039 --> 00:54:01.800
We cut back to the Bebop and
Spike is once again practicing his martial

680
00:54:01.880 --> 00:54:06.480
arty in a different part of the
ship this time, and we see Jet

681
00:54:06.480 --> 00:54:08.559
going to tell him that the Pep
Bell Pepper and Beef is ready. And

682
00:54:08.599 --> 00:54:15.199
I think that move of move of
scenario scene is really important because it shows

683
00:54:15.199 --> 00:54:20.079
you that he is trying to come
to terms with what happened. He's in

684
00:54:20.159 --> 00:54:23.159
a area which is like more exposed
to the to the space and the stars

685
00:54:23.239 --> 00:54:28.320
around him, which I guess in
my mind made me read it as like

686
00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:30.920
he's trying to find a place where
he can think and try and recenter and

687
00:54:31.079 --> 00:54:35.400
gain balance, and like seeing the
vastness of the space while also doing his

688
00:54:35.480 --> 00:54:39.280
like martial Larst routine really helps him
with that. So a lot of nuance

689
00:54:39.360 --> 00:54:45.159
to Spike and being really explored here
in what feels like on a perfunctory superfocus

690
00:54:45.239 --> 00:54:51.400
level, just a romp with an
action heroic type of thing after everything he's

691
00:54:51.440 --> 00:54:55.639
seen, we kind of go back
to the very first beat of the episode

692
00:54:55.639 --> 00:55:00.840
where it's like well, bell peppers
and beef, and it's like it's like

693
00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:06.280
like where everything Spike has seen,
it's kind of just another fucking day for

694
00:55:06.360 --> 00:55:09.559
him, and it's like wow,
god damn. Yeah, I mean,

695
00:55:10.840 --> 00:55:15.719
I gotta imagine this is like it's
the closest thing to a perfect pilot.

696
00:55:15.760 --> 00:55:19.800
I think agree, Like I just
think you sometimes you stick the landing and

697
00:55:19.840 --> 00:55:25.320
like so blatantly obvious to me.
We're like, I'm just yes, like

698
00:55:25.800 --> 00:55:30.239
everything I would say not not even
close to my favorite episode. Okay,

699
00:55:30.639 --> 00:55:32.800
wow, that's that's that's awesome to
hear. I yeah, I'm just I

700
00:55:32.840 --> 00:55:36.320
know, and like I said,
maybe top five, but it's good.

701
00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:38.519
I just know what I need to
know, you know, And and it

702
00:55:38.639 --> 00:55:45.519
got me so excited to just like
keep keep going and maybe I will watch

703
00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:49.880
the pilot with subs as well.
Just do it to be so good,

704
00:55:50.000 --> 00:55:53.920
really good, really good. All
right. So that was the premiere episode

705
00:55:54.239 --> 00:56:00.159
season opener for Cowboy Bebop. Ordinarily, it would cover multiple episodes in an

706
00:56:00.159 --> 00:56:02.880
episode of jeff Bizarre Adventure, but
this time due to time constraints, and

707
00:56:02.880 --> 00:56:08.159
also we went pretty deep into this
episode because like the establishing one way,

708
00:56:08.159 --> 00:56:10.800
we want to kind of get our
initial thoughts. The fact that we could

709
00:56:12.079 --> 00:56:15.679
and we're nearly left to it like
no choice only speaks to the strength of

710
00:56:15.719 --> 00:56:21.079
the show exactly. Yeah, for
sure, And I don't want to give

711
00:56:21.199 --> 00:56:23.559
any episode short shrift, and given
the time constraints that we have, we

712
00:56:23.599 --> 00:56:28.039
thought it is better to just focus
on one episode this time and then come

713
00:56:28.079 --> 00:56:31.559
back to it next time with a
little more time to work with the other

714
00:56:31.559 --> 00:56:36.400
episodes that we work on. There
may be a slight delay in releasing those

715
00:56:36.440 --> 00:56:38.840
episodes because we will be traveling a
few of us we have like some commitments

716
00:56:38.880 --> 00:56:43.320
that we need to figure out,
but rest assured we will be back soon

717
00:56:44.280 --> 00:56:46.400
as always, John, thank you
for joining us, Thanks for having me,

718
00:56:46.400 --> 00:56:50.480
guys. I love doing this podcast. I'm so glad. I'm so

719
00:56:50.519 --> 00:56:54.320
glad you're enjoying. Can we be
buck, Jeff? Hell yeah, people

720
00:56:54.400 --> 00:56:58.960
can find me a dipatch sore super
picture, but be there. Also just

721
00:56:59.079 --> 00:57:02.199
dropped a new merch collection over at
ipatch wolves dot com. Yeah, oh

722
00:57:02.239 --> 00:57:06.800
yeah, it is real cool.
I've been thankfully getting samples of it,

723
00:57:07.760 --> 00:57:10.039
and yeah, you worked your way
into a real good deal. Good.

724
00:57:10.760 --> 00:57:15.679
We get on that very easily.
You know, it's good. You know

725
00:57:15.719 --> 00:57:20.000
I'm closer geographically. If you're sending
it from where you are, it's gotta

726
00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:22.280
be cheap. But yeah, I've
got a review as I you know,

727
00:57:22.440 --> 00:57:24.320
so, oh yeah, I didn't
do that for a big part of my

728
00:57:24.320 --> 00:57:30.800
life. We've all seen that switching. Uh, Lucy, I'm everywhere,

729
00:57:31.000 --> 00:57:35.880
Lucy James Games. No free merch
over here, but it's fine. I'll

730
00:57:35.880 --> 00:57:40.320
go to ipatch wolves dot com and
buy it myself. Jeff Bacalo, I'm

731
00:57:40.360 --> 00:57:44.920
at Jeff Baclar, come come hang
out and talk to me. And I'm

732
00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:52.079
at Timore Hitch everywhere and we will
see you next time. Jeff. Jeff's

733
00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:57.239
Bizarre Adventure is hosted by Tamore Hussein, Lucy James, John super ipatch Wolf

734
00:57:57.320 --> 00:58:01.280
Walsh and me Jeff bacalar. Our
post producer and editor is Jean Luke Sepki.

735
00:58:01.639 --> 00:58:06.360
Our logo is designed by Justin Vashon
and Jess O'Brien. Thanks so much

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