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Weird thing, weird, weird,
weird. Welcome to a very special episode.

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This is the Well technically this is
the first time, right that we've

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invited people on the show that are
like listeners of the show. But like,

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obviously we had an incredible opportunity and
this just fell right into our laps

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and yeah, so I'm just gonna
get right into it. So we have

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Kyle and Ryan with us today.
I don't know if we've talked much about

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this on the main show lately because
of our recording schedule, but on the

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on the Patreon show Full Disclosure,
we've gone into a lot more detail tell

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about this and you know what went
down. But essentially, my dad and

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I have been very passionate about getting
more into skywatching with people and kind of

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going out to neutral public spaces and
having a group setting skywatches and trying to

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build up to bigger crowds. After
something that happened recently, Basically, Alex

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and my dad went to a festival
in North Carolina and they had a kind

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of like a it was like a
what's the word, Alex, It was

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like sprung on you. It was
like an unplanned SkyWatch in front of about

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seventy people and they all saw orbs, and Dad and I got to thinking

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about it and talking and talking and
Alex too, you know, and we

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were just like, yeah, we
got to really do something with this.

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You know. One thing led to
another. We planned a private SkyWatch here

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in Wilmington, North Carolina, on
the beach. It was kind of like

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our little prototype first public SkyWatch.
There was eleven of us in total.

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Kyle and Ryan were with us that
night, and what happened that the night

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was incredible. It was very shocking
to me because the level of intensity of

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the orb experiences that we all witnessed
together were far beyond what I ever expected

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the phenomenon would be willing to reveal
to people coming out to meet us at

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a public space. I mean it
was. It was some pretty spectacular light

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displays that night. So without further
ado, I wanted to bring on Kyle

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and Ryan to help me tell that
story. So I guess we'll go around

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Kyle if you want to. Yeah, yeah, it was an amazing night.

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You know, you invited us out
there. I think it was eleven

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of us total, and the first
sky watch I've ever been. So it

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was the first public SkyWatch but you've
seen something before that. I did come

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in with a handful of experiences on
my own, but what I saw that

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night was unbelievable. It was something, you know, I'd say it was

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biblical. It was just, you
know, so many orbs everywhere. But

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I really got caught up in the
moment because I'm you know, I'm watching

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Chris. You know, I wanted
to see, you know, how he

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breaks his process for for this,
so you know, I'm watching him and

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you know, seeing him go into
like a prayer full meditative state. It's

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it was. It was very surreal
to watch. And of course as we

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get into it, he you know, orbs start appearing. They're everywhere,

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and you know, I'm sitting right
next to him, and I'm looking up

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and and and showing where he's pointing, and he would say, you know,

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there's gonna be orb right there.
And then right as he says right

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there, uh, and Orbit peers
out of the out of the out of

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blue like in the middle of the
sky. And then he says, oh,

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there's another one next to it,
and he points to it, and

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then another one appears immediately, and
then you know, for almost two hours,

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this goes on just orbs, you
know, coming from different directions,

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brighting, you know, getting brighter
when they pass each other. We saw

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one that was down on the horizon
over the ocean. It was a different

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color, it was orange. You
know. It was really incredible because when

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Chris would give his attention to any
specific orb, it would brighten up.

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And then when he moved his attention
away or start talking to aut something else,

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it would go dim and then he'd
go back to it and it would

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get bright again. So it was
just this really incredible connection. Uh,

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there was just so much activity for
two hours and at least yeah, yeah,

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it was. It was a long
time, and it's kind of reality

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building because you know, my experience
is when I go in the backyard,

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maybe the sky watch on my own, you know, I look in the

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sky. You know, you see
stars, and you see airplanes and maybe

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any if you're lucky, maybe you'll
see an orb, and your your rational

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brain kind of wants to go to
that spot where you know, it says,

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okay, well maybe that was an
airplane, maybe that was a star

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or something. Well this was the
exact opposite. You know, I'm watching

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orbs for two hours and the reality
is orbs. And then now I'm starting

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to after two hours, I'm looking
at airplanes and is that an orb?

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Or is that you know? And
you know, I had really had to

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bring myself back to reality say,
oh, that's yeah, that's an airplane.

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That's an airplane, not an orbit. Yeah. So that was you

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know, that my experience, of
course, the most fantastic thing. Well,

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I mean, it was all fantastic, but you know, Chris had

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told us that the phenomenon always says
good night or goodbye. Yeah, and

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you know, we were you know, it's the end of the night,

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it's the end of the sky watch, and we're all getting ready to take

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a take a photo together, and
we're all feeling good, we're all happy,

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and they take the final photo and
immediately as they take the photo,

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a huge, you know, blue
white orb shoots down very close, vertically

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straight down into the ocean. It
doesn't go into the ocean, but it

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disappears at the ocean level. So
you know, it was the most spectacular

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thing I ever saw. I mean, how do you how'd you feel about

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it? Yeah, I mean you
pretty much said everything. But I,

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on the other hand, had never
had an experience like that before. So

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coming into this being a first timer, as you mentioned, you know a

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lot of times when you're sitting at
home sky watching by yourself, you're like,

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is that an airplane? I'm not
sure. There was no doubt this

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night. I mean they were doing
zigzags, they were dropping straight down,

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like you said, there was an
orange one right above the ocean. So

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there's just no doubt in my mind
about what it was. And getting to

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witness the phenomenon for the first time
with you guys and share that experience with

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you guys was just spectacular. And
I mean they really put on a show.

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Like I said, they were doing
zigzags. They were. We saw

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several that crossed over each other.
They would brighten up, Yeah, they

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would brighten up, they would go
dim. I mean really just a spectacular

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display and no argument about what it
is at all. Yeah, yeah,

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for sure. So you might recall
this, Kyle, because remember I don't

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even remember our meat time. It
was like I think we said like between

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seven and seven thirty, will be
there, you know, and just kind

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of meet us around that time.
We picked a random public access peer on

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the beach, you know, because
Dad and I I've lived here by the

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beach for I think six years now, and Dad still lives in Fable,

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two hours away, and we were
talking about it, where like we want

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to pick a place that's public but
also isolated so that actually see orbs.

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And I've just found over the last
year six years of living here that every

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time my wife and I go out
to the beach, or if Nick and

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his wife come with us, we've
been out there a few times and see

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I'm pointing at Nick. He's behind
the camera today, but we've been out

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there a few times skywatching, Alex
and I don't know if we skywatched on

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the beach, but we sky watched
out on the water by your place,

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and I find that I see a
lot of orbs out there. So I

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was like, Dad, well,
why don't we do it on the beach.

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You know, we picked this public
access meet us there at like seven,

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seven thirty whatever. So you might
recall that when we all finally meet,

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Ryan is running a little late because
he had you had something going on.

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I don't recall, but it was
thirty minutes between when we were all

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there and you were the last person
to show up. So we all get

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out there, we sit on the
beach, together obviously, you know,

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minus Ryan. Now I want you
to recall if you remember me saying across

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the group at this point, there's
ten of us and I'm like, Dad,

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I just you know, I'm texting
Ryan. I'm like, Dad,

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he's run a little bit behind.
I just want to let you know,

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like, I'm not serious until he
shows up. I'm not really feeling like

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connected right now. I'm not putting
my thoughts up there. I'm waiting for

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my friend to show up. Then
it's like, let's go. And he

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was like okay, and you know, we're all talking and we didn't see

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anything. It was the moment that
Ryan walked up and sat down when we

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saw the first door. Yeah,
so right off the bat we were like,

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whoa, that's weird. You know, they were reacting to what we

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were saying. And it was like, you honestly didn't even really get the

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chance to like introduce yourself to people
because from the moment you sat down,

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right, it was just boom boom, boom boom. For hours. As

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soon as I got there, the
activity started and like you said, you

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know, you kind of mentioned that
you weren't really putting your thought into it.

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Well, once I got there.
There wasn't a whole lot of chit

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chat going on. Everybody was just
focused and setting their intention up on the

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sky and they really responded to that. Yeah, it was wild. It

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was so I want to get into
what was like going throughout and obviously I

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want to hear from both of you, but like what was going through your

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head when you were seeing all these
orbs appear, and how they were reacting

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to what was being said, and
like, like how how was that internally?

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Yeah, it was so much to
process because you know, you're you're

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watching this incredible display before you you're
going through your own emotions and feelings,

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and you're paying attention to what Chris
is saying because he's saying very profound things,

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and you know, as he's going
through his process and and you know,

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you get a lot of emotions that
are coming up, and you're just

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trying to take it all in and
and and try to forget what you know,

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what does this mean? What does
it mean to me? You know

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what's going on here? Yeah?
How about you? I know we talked

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about this on full disclosure, but
you know, for yeah, I mean

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it was pretty much the same thing. I mean, like I said,

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I had never experienced it before,
so really I was kind of in all

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just mind blown trying to process the
whole thing, and I was also mentally

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taking notes of just what you were
doing, what your dad was doing,

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uh, and trying to take away
what I could learn from you guys to

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be able to experience it again,
because I'm I mean, there really is

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kind of a process to it.
It's a lot of intention and having your

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heart in the right place. But
I mean, really it was just kind

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of a confirmation of what I've been
believing for a while and finally got to

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see it right. So keep in
mind, it's like we've been for many

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years combined, you know, me
and my whole family for many years combined,

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we've been going out there trying to
open people up to this, explain

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this to people. And you know, before the History Channel show, it

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was kind of like this this era
of like trying to vindicate ourselves and like,

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no, you got to believe us. But now it's more so like

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that's past, and it's like really
just trying to help people develop the connection.

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You know, it's like the proof
is there. It's like, yeah,

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you know, but anyway, I
want you to be mindful of the

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fact that it's very hard coming from
being in the position of this happening all

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the time and trying to perfectly convey
every little detail. So like, if

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you don't mind, Like, what
were some of the things you noticed that

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we were saying or doing that the
phenomenon was responding to. Sure, you

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know, Yeah, the most obvious
one was the word Holy Spirit. Anytime

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Chris would say Holy Spirit, I
mean, they would get exceptionally bright and

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maybe multiple ones across the sky in
coordination with each other. That was the

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most you know, powerful display that
I saw, you know, but as

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he talked to specific and specific directions, the orbs would appear and they would

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they would get bright brighter when they
crossed. You know, there was different

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types of displays. You know,
there was zig zagging, swimmer types,

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streakers, which is, you know, flew fast across the sky like a

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shooting stock, a shooting star.
Yeah. I think at one point Chris

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said, asked, if you know
that we could have like a lower display,

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like you know, if something would
come down lower and almost immediately something

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shoots across you know, like it's
like a shooting star, but it's twenty

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feet over our head, which is
what he asked for. Yeah, so

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that's the little things that I noticed. How about you? To me,

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a big thing was gratitude. Was
every time they put on a display,

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your dad would thank them, yes, and also just asking for them to

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put on a show for us.
You know. I actually, like I

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said, was taking notes. And
I went home and about a week later,

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had an experience in my own for
the first time, just by myself,

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and I tried to repeat the process
of what I had seen your dad

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do. I was outside and I
was looking up at the sky and I

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said, Holy Spirit, if it's
your will, will you please show yourself

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to me? And I just set
my intention up there, and sure enough,

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I have an orb show up and
it starts getting brighter and dimming back

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out and getting brighter. And really
just being grateful, having your heart in

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the right place, having the intention, and just focusing really were the biggest

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things to me. Wow, that's
powerful. That's really cool man. Yeah.

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I mean I found out right away
that you know, you have the

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senac that you're out there together and
you want to enjoy each other's company and

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you know, uh talk. But
you know, when everyone focused and everyone

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had their intention in the right way
and and just like what Ryan just said,

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that's when you saw the most activity. And you know what, I

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forgot to even mention this part,
but do you remember when we first got

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there, the entire sky was filled
with clouds and for a while we were

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all like, you know, like
what can we do about this? And

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my dad, because he's friends with
Colonel John Alexander of you know, Project

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Stargate and you know, like the
movie The Men, Who'steric Goats and whatnot,

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they have this concept called cloud busting, where you know, you project

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your intentions out to the clouds,
and it's like that's the kind of thing,

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like it's a cool concept. I
believe it works, but you can't

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really there's no meter in your brain
that's like, oh it's working, you

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know, like it's intuitive, you
know, but I gotta say, I

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mean, correct me if I'm wrong
here. Yeah, it definitely worked.

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Go ahead, yeah, go ahead. Now that was all I was going

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to say, is I mean it
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it was really cloudy and overcast when
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it cleared right on up and by
the end of the night Man, there

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wasn't a cloud in sight. Yeah, yeah, I watched. That was

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the first thing Chris did. I
think when he got out there, as

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he looked at this on the clouds
everybody, he asked, you know that

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they clear up. I mean they
were incredibly dense. I mean that you

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could not see through anywhere, and
it was from horizon to horizon basically,

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And sure enough, I mean they
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within an hour or maybe hour and
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I was like, wow, it did

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not look like it was going to
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believe that that had some effect.
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right. It's like, again,
there's no physical metric here. But it's

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like you know, the last few
times that Dad and I in any setting,

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whether it's with you guys, or
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I think this episode may be out
by now, But we just recorded with

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her friend Molly, who we tell
the story how she came out. We

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did it with them too. It's
like focus on the cloud busting, and

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we go from a sky that's fully
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bang bang bang bang. But yeah, it was crazy. It does seem

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there's something to that, you know, projecting your intentions up to the sky

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beyond just the orbs. Yes,
you know, yeah, but are you

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comfortable talking about your first ORB experience? Sure? Yeah, I can definitely

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talk about that. Uh. My
first orber experience was approximately two to three

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years ago. I had never seen
anything before that, and it came on

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the tale of encountering your family's story. And I was with was basically a

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stranger as a family member that I
did know very well. And we were

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sitting on a at on a in
a beach house and one evening and We're

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just talking and chatting and I was
kind of having a realization that you know

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what UFOs are, that there's more
to it than you know, your your

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your normal narrative, you here.
And so I was talking to this other

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person and as we get into the
conversation, I was telling her about Chris

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and I was telling her, uh, you know, how my my thoughts

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had changed, and I looked down
or she she actually brought up to me.

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She's like, oh my god,
I got you chills on my arm.

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You know, I'm I'm your You're
really you know, making me amazed.

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At what you're saying, and at
that moment we're you know, we're

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talking a little bit more. All
of a sudden, an orb appears like

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right, you know, above the
sand dune, and it was for about

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three seconds, and it was you
know, both of us saw it,

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and you know, you didn't know
what the thing. I didn't know what

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to think. And I was actually
grateful that I had someone there to watch

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it with me, because I think
if I had been by myself, I

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would have tried to discount. And
I still tried to discount. It's a

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gift to you because it's confirmation that
you shared it with another person who's like,

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no, I saw this, it's
real. Yeah. So she saw

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it and I saw it, and
it was undeniable, and I knew what

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I saw. But your brain,
if you've you know, you don't want

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to believe it. I mean,
you want to say, well, how

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can I explain this way? But
I couldn't. There's no way to explain

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it away. So and then that's
when the realization happened in. As soon

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as that happened, there you know, had follow on experiences, you know,

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after that, I definitely feel like
it was meant to be that we

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were all supposed to have met the
way we did, I mean the way

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I met you guys. Yeah,
I met you through the Discord naturally.

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And I should say Alex has like
plugged the discord plugging. I'm just being

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candid about it. But we do. We do have a Patreon. Let's

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so said, so dot calm forward
slash Patreon. I would be remiss if

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I didn't, you know, say
drop that in there. And we have

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this amazing discord community and and they're
both in it. But it's it's kind

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of the reverse, like I met
you through the discord, but then I

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met you and you got into the
discord, right, So like met Kyle

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through the discord. Actually, I
think you hit up Alex first, that's

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right. Yeah, And and Alex
was coming to me, He's like,

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there's this guy Kyle, super nice
guy, and you know he lives forty

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five minutes away. Let's go to
lunch. And we went to lunch.

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That was about a year ago,
right, yeah, has been it's been

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quite a while. Yeah, And
we went to lunch just super good vibe.

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I mean me and Alex were both
like, man, I what a

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nice guy, you know, Like
we definitely got to do that again.

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I'm unfortunately we just had our second
lunch today. But you know, things

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get busy and you know, everything
goes to the wayside. But in the

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back of our head, we're always
like, man, Kyle is a really

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cool guy, Like, got to
hang out again. Got Alex and I

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are always talking like sometime we got
to do that again, you know.

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And then the way we met Ryan
was really weird because Nick and I were

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going to like basically like a vape
shop down the street, just like a

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regular run of the mill strip mall
kind of place, and Ryan is walking

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down the street and Nick and I
just hear are you guys? Ryan?

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And Nick? And we're like yes, you know, and it's like the

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expectation in that moment. You don't
just get approached on the street. It's

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like are we being jumped, are
we being you know? Are we being

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arrested? Like I don't know,
It's just like the things that go through

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head. And then we turn it's
all Ryan. He's like from bless you

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said, so you guys are Ryan? And we hit it off and like,

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I just the thing I remember the
most from that encounter was I've always

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had this philosophy like when you meet
people who you know, you always hear

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like, don't meet your heroes,
right as you just always hear it,

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like you meet somebody online or whoever
that you've been interested in their material,

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and it's like, don't meet your
heroes. So I've always had the opposite

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philosophy, like, whenever you have
the the amazing chance to meet somebody who's

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been aware of you through you know, your story on TV or online or

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whatever, make it as memorable and
compassionate as possible. So I was just

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like, give me a hug,
dude, let's get a picture. And

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I just remember hugging you and we
were both shaking from from the energy of

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like how electric it was having met
just by complete coincidence, and it was

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I was like, dude, I
know I was supposed to meet this guy.

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I know I was supposed to meet
Kyle. Fast forward a little bit.

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So Dad's like, yeah, we'll
do it in Wilmington. We'll do

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the SkyWatch. I got three or
four people, and I was like,

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all right, I got three or
four people invited Kyle Ryan, my third

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couldn't show. And it's I don't
know, man, I mean, correct

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me if I'm wrong, but it
feels like that night was some sort of

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convergence point and all of us having
absolutely, for some reason, we were

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supposed to be there experiencing that together. Yeah. And I felt like I've

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been experiencing that for you know,
a couple of years, like all these

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strained synchronicities that are lying up.
And I know you had something, you

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had a dream right about. Yeah. So actually, whenever I met Ryan,

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I had dreamt a couple of weeks
beforehand that I was going to run

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into you because i'd been f when
the podcast since it came out. I

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knew that you were here local,
and I had a dream that I was

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just gonna run into you. And
sure enough, one day, I'm at

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work walking over to Jersey Mikes to
grab a sandwich on my lunch break,

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and there you are. And I
mean, you called it a coincidence,

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but man, I believe that there's
no such thing as a coincidence. I

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think it's all led up to this
moment. Yeah, And I felt like

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I had the same type of thing. Maybe not exactly like that, but

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I've had, you know, kind
of precognitive things or just crazy synchronicities,

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and and and of course now I'm
here, you know, it's yeah,

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why yeah, I hope you don't
mind if I like, go ahead air

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this out, but I gotta I
got a kick out of when I called

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you that night and asked you to
come on the show man. It was

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it just tickled me, but like
in the best way, because I was

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like, you know, Kyle,
I I'd love to have you on the

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show. Your response, dude,
it made me. It made me just

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kind of smile a little bit.
You were like, oh my gosh,

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man, like this is all happening
so fast. And I was like,

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so is that a yes? You
know, like yeah, I mean just

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when you invited me out to the
SkyWatch, I mean, it just blew

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me away because you know, I've
been looking for opportunity and obviously just the

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opportunity to go skywitch with Chris is
incredible. And I was just really grateful

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to have been offered to come out. I mean, you know, how

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often does that come along for people
to have an experience like that. So

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and and you know, and I'm
and there wasn't a lot of details at

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the time when you told me,
and right, and so I went out

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there. I was like, oh, maybe there's gonna be fifty or one

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hundred people here or something like that, and there was just, you know,

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it was six of us, and
I felt, you know, it

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was very personal. Of course,
when we got there, you immediately told

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me, hey, go sit right
next to Dad, which I appreciate that,

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you know, heads up, you
know, And if I may,

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Ryan and Kyle were both being really
I guess, like I don't know how

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to say, you were being very
polite. I could sense that both of

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you were hesitant about like, first
of all, you showed up late and

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we'd all been chatting, and then
it was like orbs start. She didn't

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really get a chance to introduce yourself, even and it was dark. Kyle

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had been there for a little bit. But I got the sense both of

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you were being like polite about like
crowding him out or or you know,

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sitting too close to him or whatever. But see me, I'm like all

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these other people, you know,
wonderful people, nice people, but I

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was like, I don't know them. Dad invited them. I invited these

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guys. I'm like, I'm trying
to I'm trying to guide them through like

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the best possible experience. And we
had a we had a circle on the

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in you know, on the beach
in the dark too. So I'm like,

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you're going to sit over here.
I'm like, no, no,

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no, sit right there next to
my dad. You pull up a chair,

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you put it somewhere else. I'm
like, no, no, no,

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sit right there. I made I
plucked you both and I made sure

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you sat right there so you could
hear everything that advice. Yeah, because

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I'm glad I tell you because you're
on the beach so it's really hard to

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hear. And you know, I'm
sitting right you know, next connecting with

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your dad, and so I'm seeing
exactly where he's pointing, and I'm hearing

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everything he's saying. And again a
really close look at you know, this

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process that he goes through, and
and uh, it's just fantastic and just

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blew me away my original thoughts when
I when I saw him start this process

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of you know, this prayer,
full type meditative, you know, asking

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you know, my I was like, man, this is really intense and

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authentic, and you know it's it's
a special type of prayer that I've never

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heard, type that I've never heard
before. It just stood out to me

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as being you know, incredibly special. Yeah. Yeah, and I did

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call to your attention that night too. I was like, you know,

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this is this is the stuff the
History Channel cut out. Yeah, you

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know, it's like for whatever reason, I mean, they have their things

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that they have to hit and their
editing and you know, how they want

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to present it. But like everything
you saw that night is exactly the same

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as as you know, the process
of getting into it and then you know,

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his brain waves and all that.
They only showed a few minutes of

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that, but they had one hundred
hours of footage, you know, and

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there was a lot of prayer,
a lot of exactly what you saw was

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exactly what it was that had those
orbits appearing, and it was all cut

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out. So like it was really
cool that you guys got to see the

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process. You know, So like
what what can you recall? I know

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you kind of hinted at it,
but like, well, the strange thing

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is, I you know, he
talked, He's talking most of the time

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throughout the two hours, but I
really can't recall a specific thing that he

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said. But it was just all
very profound and he's you know, and

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you saw a little bit a little
bit of that on beyond skim walker as

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far as you know how he does
some of that, but you don't see

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it super up close. And that's
what I got to see. You know,

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It's hard to characterize because it's it
just was something that it was completely

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new and unique to me. How
did you feel about did you get it

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close enough for you of yeah?
Absolutely so to me, it was I

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had a similar experience. You know, I don't specifically recall a lot of

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what he said. I just remember
tidbits here and there. But what stood

411
00:24:30.359 --> 00:24:33.039
out to me most of what he
was saying was whenever he would utter the

412
00:24:33.079 --> 00:24:37.680
words Holy Spirit or he even mentioned
ruoc once, you know, they would

413
00:24:37.720 --> 00:24:41.960
respond to it. And so I
was really just trying to pay as close

414
00:24:42.000 --> 00:24:47.240
attention as I could to the process, because that's one thing, like you

415
00:24:47.279 --> 00:24:48.799
said, you don't see that on
a lot of the stuff that they put

416
00:24:48.839 --> 00:24:52.000
out about it, and so I'm
really just trying to take away, like

417
00:24:52.079 --> 00:24:56.119
what is it that he does to
be able to produce these results, because

418
00:24:56.599 --> 00:25:00.519
that was one of the things I
was most interested in. I went into

419
00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:03.559
it never having an experience in my
own I wanted to know what I could

420
00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:07.000
take back home to be able to
see it again and it worked. It

421
00:25:07.039 --> 00:25:11.119
did. Yeah, that's that's kind
of like my whole point of all this.

422
00:25:11.359 --> 00:25:11.960
You know, it's like, I
never want to be the guy that

423
00:25:12.039 --> 00:25:15.079
gate keeps knowledge. You have a
lot of people out there in this UFO

424
00:25:15.200 --> 00:25:18.839
subject and they're just pure gatekeepers.
Man. First of all, they're gatekeeping

425
00:25:18.839 --> 00:25:22.720
fake information. You know, it
just is what it is, you know,

426
00:25:22.799 --> 00:25:25.880
not calling out any names, but
the majority of UFO information out there

427
00:25:25.960 --> 00:25:27.799
just is fake. It's just the
reality, you know, and it's gatekeeping.

428
00:25:27.960 --> 00:25:32.519
I have this document by this guy
that's like, you know, it's

429
00:25:32.599 --> 00:25:34.839
going to be the smoking gun man, it's going to be the alien bodies

430
00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:38.480
and you know, categorizing the freaking
eggs and their corpses that you know,

431
00:25:40.160 --> 00:25:42.200
you know, they have all this
like role play about it. And then

432
00:25:42.240 --> 00:25:45.079
you have people like, well,
I don't want to call anybody out by

433
00:25:45.160 --> 00:25:51.160
name, but you can infer.
You have people who are charging five thousand

434
00:25:51.160 --> 00:25:53.920
dollars a pop to come out and
shine lasers at the sky and do some

435
00:25:55.039 --> 00:25:59.400
specific the Alex is laughing, I'm
dead serious, you know, charging five

436
00:25:59.400 --> 00:26:03.480
thousand dollars to shoot lasers at the
sky and do some CE five meditation protocol,

437
00:26:04.240 --> 00:26:08.000
and you know, here we are
fighting for our lives, fighting for

438
00:26:08.039 --> 00:26:11.240
a reputation for the last seventeen years. And you guys saw the process.

439
00:26:11.759 --> 00:26:15.759
Cut in if I'm making this up, Cut in if I'm lying. The

440
00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:18.519
process is this. We're sitting there
and he goes, Okay, everybody,

441
00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:22.000
let's cut the football chit chat.
You know, that's what he likes to

442
00:26:22.039 --> 00:26:26.000
say. What he means is like, cut all the you know, the

443
00:26:26.079 --> 00:26:29.960
surrounding chatter, and he directs all
of our attention to everybody. We're gonna

444
00:26:29.960 --> 00:26:33.039
put our minds together and we're going
to focus on one spot. Imagine the

445
00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:37.279
lady, he says. You know, we can only imagine God. You

446
00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:40.200
can think about it. This is
what he's saying to the crowd. You

447
00:26:40.200 --> 00:26:44.119
know, we can only imagine God. But I imagine her as a woman.

448
00:26:44.160 --> 00:26:45.759
That's how she appeared to me.
You can imagine her however you want.

449
00:26:45.799 --> 00:26:49.000
It doesn't really matter whatever you want
to think of her in your head.

450
00:26:49.240 --> 00:26:52.440
You know, we can only imagine
God, but imagine God. Focus

451
00:26:52.480 --> 00:26:59.039
your thoughts on the lady. Focus
your thoughts on the beings, the beings

452
00:26:59.039 --> 00:27:03.920
of light. And uh, right, when he says, now, I'm

453
00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:08.880
going to do this. I'm going
to ask that if the Holy Spirit ooh,

454
00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:14.319
the orbit peers would share her presence
and then so on and so forth,

455
00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:18.799
And that's literally it. There's no
fancy. You know, you like

456
00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:22.160
technology, lasers and you know,
there's none of that. Yeah, there's

457
00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:26.240
no smoke of mirrors, there's no
tricks, there's no protocol. It's just

458
00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:32.400
having uh. Like, imagine if
you could take your perspective for just a

459
00:27:32.480 --> 00:27:36.759
moment and you can do this,
just just think out of the box,

460
00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:40.680
Like, Okay, maybe I believe
in God, maybe I believe in something

461
00:27:40.680 --> 00:27:44.480
out there, But what if you
didn't believe it? What if you knew

462
00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:48.279
it? What if you knew with
one hundred percent certainty that when you're projecting

463
00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:53.480
your thoughts to the sky to some
deity or entity, what if you knew

464
00:27:53.519 --> 00:27:57.240
without a doubt that it actually was
there responding. You know, you would

465
00:27:57.319 --> 00:28:02.839
you would put out a little bit
of a vibe than just your typical you

466
00:28:02.880 --> 00:28:07.720
know, growing up Christian or Muslim
or Jewish or whatever faith you come from.

467
00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:08.839
You know, not knocking any of
them, but you know it's like

468
00:28:10.200 --> 00:28:11.359
you go to temple, you go
to church, you read your scripture,

469
00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:15.599
you believe in God, don't even
imagine it, never seen it, don't

470
00:28:15.640 --> 00:28:18.440
know anything about it. That's not
what we're talking about. We're talking about

471
00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:22.400
like a knowing, right yep,
And that's that's what it is. It's

472
00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:26.799
just knowing that when he projects that
up there, boom the flash comes back.

473
00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:30.839
Yeah, the connection there was undeniable. I mean you could not.

474
00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:34.039
I'm sending it right here in every
little nuance in his voice as far as

475
00:28:34.039 --> 00:28:37.880
what he's saying, and it's just
responding back. And you know, I

476
00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:41.759
felt like that's a missing piece that
doesn't get connected as that. You know,

477
00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:44.680
it's it's related to you, it's
your related to you, it's the

478
00:28:44.680 --> 00:28:48.559
connection. The connection. Yeah,
yeah, knowing that it's there, and

479
00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:52.119
it was pretty crazy. There was
one time actually, Okay, I've been

480
00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:56.519
talking about this quite a bit on
full disclosure recently, but one thing that's

481
00:28:56.519 --> 00:29:02.039
been blowing my mind is like I
I never this is going to probably sound

482
00:29:02.039 --> 00:29:06.440
shocking to people, but I never
thought that I had a connection with these

483
00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:11.039
beings. I just always thought that, like I was seeing them, like

484
00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:14.839
you know, it's like, it's
funny because I explain this how it's never

485
00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:18.160
an accident when you see them,
but I guess it was a self doubt

486
00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:22.599
thing, like I always imagine this
as like happening to my dad and we're

487
00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:26.319
in the fallout of it, you
know what I mean. I never really

488
00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:30.880
thought like I have that connection or
you know, this sibling or this sibling,

489
00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:34.000
if that makes sense. But lately, with the way things have been

490
00:29:34.039 --> 00:29:38.440
going, it's been kind of hard
for me to deny. There's been a

491
00:29:38.440 --> 00:29:44.720
few incidents is where I'll say something
and then something will flash and Dad's like,

492
00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:48.200
you see, I've been telling you
like it's connected to you, and

493
00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:52.079
I'm like, yeah, but it's
hard to process that some deity or entity

494
00:29:52.119 --> 00:29:56.480
beyond the veil is like focused on
you, you know what I mean.

495
00:29:56.599 --> 00:29:59.960
Yeah, And likewise, I was
never somebody who had thought I never thought

496
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:02.920
I would ever see this. I
never thought it was possible. And I

497
00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:04.319
mean, I'm forty four years old
and this happened a couple of years ago

498
00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:10.079
where I had my first you know, experience, and it was kind of

499
00:30:10.119 --> 00:30:11.599
the same kind of thing, like
is this really happen? This is happening

500
00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:15.759
to me? Like how yah know? And it really blew me away,

501
00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:19.400
And well, have you guys like
considered the implication yet that those were actual

502
00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:23.400
entities who are like, they've got
your number, you know what I mean,

503
00:30:23.400 --> 00:30:26.359
they're aware of you, they know
you better than you know you.

504
00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:30.799
Have you like considered that part yet, Yeah, I mean that's it's a

505
00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:34.319
difficult thing to conceptualize, but that's
one of the things that has really kind

506
00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:38.200
of drawn me to it. You
know. I have always just kind of

507
00:30:38.200 --> 00:30:41.480
sought out the truth, and I
knew that there was something out there.

508
00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:45.519
I knew that there was more to
it, but I really just wanted to

509
00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:49.880
know exactly what it was and just
come into that realization that they're connected to

510
00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:56.000
all of us. I mean you
mentioned not feeling necessarily that they were connected

511
00:30:56.039 --> 00:30:59.000
to you. I saw that night
an example of their connection to you.

512
00:30:59.160 --> 00:31:00.839
It was kind of funny to me. But towards the end of the night,

513
00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:04.039
Ryan was like, hey watch this, and he started kind of playing

514
00:31:04.039 --> 00:31:08.640
a hype man and he was trying
to get the entities excited and he'd start

515
00:31:08.680 --> 00:31:15.200
cheering like whoo, get bright yeah, and they responded to it. Yeah.

516
00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:17.839
They would get really bright whenever you
would do that, and then when

517
00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:21.920
you would stop, they'd start to
fade back out. So I think one

518
00:31:21.960 --> 00:31:25.920
of the coolest things to me is
just to know that everybody has that connection,

519
00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:30.200
anybody is capable of producing these results
and being able to go back home

520
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:33.079
and to see it on my own, you know, out in the yard

521
00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:37.599
by myself. It's just confirmation of
that anybody can do it. It doesn't

522
00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:41.920
take a special person. It just
takes a humble heart exactly. Yeah,

523
00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:44.599
and a humble heart of course.
That's that's the biggest part of it,

524
00:31:44.680 --> 00:31:47.640
really, you know, thanking them
for their appearances, that's the most important

525
00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:51.640
part, you know. But like
Nick and Alex too, like they're getting

526
00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:55.119
a connection that's undeniable. Like there's
been a few times that Nick's come over

527
00:31:55.359 --> 00:31:59.039
that we'll be sitting on the back
porch and he's spot in orbs. I'm

528
00:31:59.079 --> 00:32:00.119
like, not even looking, He's
dude, look look, look, you

529
00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:05.640
know that's that's at least twice now
that that's happened recently, where he's pointing

530
00:32:05.680 --> 00:32:07.920
him out. I'm like, oh, shoot, you know, he's like

531
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:10.640
spotting him out now. And Alex, he's going home, he's walking his

532
00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:15.559
dog and he's texting me frequently sawn
or sawn or I'm seeing him. You

533
00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:19.799
recently saw him with your fiance for
the first time, right, and like

534
00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:23.519
this connection is it's blossoming into like
the people around me are starting to develop

535
00:32:23.559 --> 00:32:27.960
this connection like that. I was
gonna tell that story, which is why

536
00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:31.240
I brought up the thing about me
doubting having a connection. Is like for

537
00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:35.680
many years I thought of this as
happening to my dad, But now I

538
00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:40.319
see that that's only the beginning.
But you know where this is progressing with

539
00:32:40.400 --> 00:32:45.799
the experiences that we've been having lately, it's blossoming to where it's like so

540
00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:51.440
many more people are developing this inner
knowing, this connection with these beings and

541
00:32:51.480 --> 00:32:53.440
like, you know, you're seeing
him on your own now. If you

542
00:32:53.519 --> 00:32:58.079
simply asked, you know, I'm
sure you could. Like I encourage you

543
00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:00.680
to try, you know, and
I have. I have had that happen

544
00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:04.480
not that long ago. I was
outside with my dad and just talk,

545
00:33:04.519 --> 00:33:07.359
having a conversations in the evening,
and I see one kind of go behind

546
00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:09.079
him. He's just like it brightens
up and then it and it goes away.

547
00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:15.519
So yeah, and it seems to
be increasing. But but definitely this

548
00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:17.240
sky watch with your dad was something
on a whole nother level. It's a

549
00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:21.640
whole nother level of knowing and confirmation, you know, as far as it's

550
00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:23.200
like wow and and and you know, I understand they can't get a lot

551
00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:27.599
closer. And I'm sure that's a
whole nother level of of knowing, you

552
00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:30.000
know. I mean, I probably
everyone, you know, most of the

553
00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:34.599
people watching this, you know,
have our believers. They are probably and

554
00:33:34.680 --> 00:33:37.480
but but definitely when you see him, it's it's it does something to you

555
00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:40.519
that you know, it's not belief
anymore. It's knowing. Like I can

556
00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:44.640
say that word over and over and
someone's like yeah, cool, like but

557
00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:46.680
no, no, but like I'm
telling you, like that's the strongest word

558
00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:52.119
that I can convey. That is
like it is a knowing. Watch the

559
00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:55.559
movie The Knowing when Nicholas Cage.
Amazing movie, and it's like it's really

560
00:33:55.599 --> 00:34:00.680
good with how it like portrays the
phenomenon as being like kind of like UFOs

561
00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:05.759
but they're also Angels of Light.
Fantastic movie. It does have a lot

562
00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:07.000
of doom and gloom into the world
type stuff, but like you know,

563
00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:12.519
it's a spooky movie, so like
parse that stuff out of it and look

564
00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:15.559
at all the descriptions of the phenomenon
they're leaving, you know, little crystals

565
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:19.719
and all this stuff, but the
knowing, you know, it's like you

566
00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:22.320
walk away that night and you're like, you know, I can't really deny

567
00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:27.119
anymore, Yeah, that there's something
up there. I had another piece.

568
00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:30.239
After I left, I felt like
I was completely vibrating, Like really,

569
00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:31.599
I mean I could feel it in
my bones. Did you have any anything

570
00:34:31.639 --> 00:34:35.639
of that after you left? Yeah? I mentioned it on Full Disclosure.

571
00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:38.559
You know, even up to the
point that we recorded the episode of Full

572
00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:43.840
Disclosure, I just felt filled with
the spiritual energy. And I mean,

573
00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:47.159
while we were witnessing it happened,
I was just kind of overcome with emotion.

574
00:34:47.320 --> 00:34:50.599
You know. At one point I
almost felt like I was on the

575
00:34:50.679 --> 00:34:52.760
verge tears. And it wasn't in
a sad way. It wasn't any sort

576
00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:57.920
of bad emotions, but you know, it was just a very overwhelming feeling.

577
00:34:57.960 --> 00:35:01.280
And like you said, you feel
like you're vibrating. Yeah. Yeah,

578
00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:04.880
it was an incredible knight for sure. Yeah. But it's like,

579
00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:10.119
this is something that I think most
teenagers or you know, young adults like

580
00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:15.920
consider growing up. This isn't your
typical trope of what people struggle with internally,

581
00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:20.280
but something I've struggled with is like, you know, growing up with

582
00:35:20.360 --> 00:35:25.760
these experiences that are happening around my
family. Beyond a number that I can

583
00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:30.239
quantify, you know, it's thousands
and thousands of these crazy mind altering paranormal

584
00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:34.480
experiences and it all, you know, the origin point has always been my

585
00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:37.880
dad. So something that's always been
in the back of my mind is like,

586
00:35:38.679 --> 00:35:44.199
do I have this connection? Do
I have any of these types of

587
00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:47.679
abilities or you know, any of
this kind of any of it? Really,

588
00:35:49.599 --> 00:35:52.880
So that night, I know I
told you all this, but I

589
00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:55.320
want to say it for the show. That night was a big deal for

590
00:35:55.400 --> 00:36:00.679
me and my dad because this is
the first night the data and I ever

591
00:36:01.159 --> 00:36:05.840
in seventeen years of this and January
of this coming year, it will be

592
00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:09.960
seventeen years that we've been dealing with
this. That's like a double PhD just

593
00:36:10.039 --> 00:36:16.400
saying, you know, but it'll
be seventeen years that for the first time

594
00:36:16.679 --> 00:36:21.480
ever that we said, you know
what, you know, we get thousands

595
00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:22.960
of people, Can I come to
your house? Can I come to your

596
00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:24.559
house? Can I SkyWatch? And
you know, wull sift through them and

597
00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:29.480
it's like, you know, sure, you can come, you can come,

598
00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:30.519
you can come, you can come. It's too many requests, right.

599
00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:36.800
All of our skywatching experiences have been
people like inviting us over us,

600
00:36:36.840 --> 00:36:39.719
allowing people to come, certain influencers
online who might have a following, and

601
00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:42.679
we're like, yeah, yeah,
we should let them come because you know,

602
00:36:42.719 --> 00:36:45.679
then they'll go out and tell it
or whatever. This was the very

603
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:52.480
first time that we said, let's
go to a neutral setting with the sole

604
00:36:52.760 --> 00:37:01.440
intention of skywatching in a public space
and working up to some version of mass

605
00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:04.480
sightings. You know, you see
what I'm saying, Like, yeah,

606
00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:07.159
this was This was the start of
us saying, okay, we got to

607
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:12.079
go out there and show as many
people as possible something's happening. So long

608
00:37:12.119 --> 00:37:16.599
story short, that night was our
first night trying to do that, and

609
00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:22.159
I never in a million years expected
we would see, you know, the

610
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:24.519
very bright orbs crossing. I thought
maybe we'd get a couple of blips in

611
00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:29.000
and call it a night. No, No, we saw what twenty or

612
00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:31.960
thirty I lost count. Yeah.
It was just bang bang, bang bang

613
00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:35.920
for hours, and then you know, the group would split up into different

614
00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:37.159
chatter and then Dad would say,
everybody, you know, get your thoughts

615
00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:42.159
back on one thing. You guys
might notice that every time we redirected our

616
00:37:42.199 --> 00:37:45.039
thoughts together and we would cut the
chatter and we would focus, and he

617
00:37:45.079 --> 00:37:47.239
would say, you know, think
about the beings. The more we talk

618
00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:52.719
about them, what happens. Right, Yeah, showed, they showed excitement.

619
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:57.320
But I say all that to say
I was very stressed that night because

620
00:37:57.400 --> 00:38:00.239
that was my first time putting myself
out there and saying, Okay, every

621
00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:05.880
ORB experiences that I've ever had has
been the beings just showing. This was

622
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:07.760
the first time that me personally,
I went out there and it's like,

623
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:13.199
okay, I need your help here, Like I'm inviting people to show.

624
00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:16.960
And that's why I started saying,
hey, watch this and started cheering at

625
00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:22.000
the orbs. I was really testing
myself and they brightened up, and I

626
00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:24.360
just got to say, man,
I walked away from that night just as

627
00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:29.880
mind blown as you guys. Well. I think the Holy Spirit really may

628
00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:32.679
have been sending you guys a message
that night, because after seeing what we

629
00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:36.679
saw on the display that they put
on, I think that really is just

630
00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:40.079
confirmation that you guys are doing the
right thing in order to spread the knowing.

631
00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:44.239
As you said, you know,
this is the best way to do

632
00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:49.239
it, to take people out there
to have them set their intentions and really

633
00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:52.159
just let them see for themselves,
because you walk away with it with a

634
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:57.639
complete confirmation that like, yeah,
this is it. Yeah, yep,

635
00:38:57.880 --> 00:39:00.960
pretty wild. So like, I
guess I didn't ask this. I should

636
00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:04.199
have asked this in the beginning.
But like, if you don't mind me

637
00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:07.840
asking, we'll start with you.
How did you hear about our family?

638
00:39:07.960 --> 00:39:12.519
Uh? It was probably two or
three years ago, and you know,

639
00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:15.280
I was going down the uf foot
rabbit hole and yeah, it was some

640
00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:17.800
you know, some obscure place on
the internet. I came somebody threw a

641
00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:20.960
name Chris Blood. Chris Blood.
So I was like, who is Who's

642
00:39:21.039 --> 00:39:23.840
Chris Blood? So I've read so
much in uphology and all the lore and

643
00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:28.559
all that, and I I and
so I started researching, and I think

644
00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:32.559
I came to uh, maybe a
video by the Spiritual Frontiers Foundation or either

645
00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:37.239
written maybe Richard Dolan I think was
the dad did Dolan And then we both

646
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:39.800
did Spiritual Frontiersers okay and and that, and so I and I heard the

647
00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:44.280
story. And immediately when I heard
the story, I was like it just

648
00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:46.480
clicked, like this this is starting
to make sense now. I'd see what

649
00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:51.320
the piece is that was missing,
and uh, you know, just intuitively,

650
00:39:51.800 --> 00:39:53.119
it's just like yeah, this,
you know, you know he's so

651
00:39:53.159 --> 00:39:58.159
authentic and you know, it just
all matched up. And and so I

652
00:39:58.199 --> 00:40:00.199
went from there and I you know, went search and trying to get more

653
00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:06.199
information, and that ultimately is how
it came across this podcast and awesome and

654
00:40:06.239 --> 00:40:08.599
I've been a fan ever since.
Awesome deal. Well, it means a

655
00:40:08.639 --> 00:40:10.960
lot to me that you guys would
come on and like, you know,

656
00:40:13.159 --> 00:40:17.400
it's it's twofold here because like sure, like I'm I'm I'm willing to believe,

657
00:40:17.480 --> 00:40:21.119
like it's a cool experience for you
guys, you know, going on

658
00:40:21.159 --> 00:40:23.079
to a podcast you've heard, but
you have to think about how much more

659
00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:27.800
it's amazing for me because what are
you doing right, Yeah, you're coming

660
00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:30.480
out here and you're helping me with
a witness testimony. So like this,

661
00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:32.880
this is this is amazing for me. I mean the fact that you guys

662
00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:35.920
would come out here and say,
yeah, why not, I'll go out

663
00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:38.280
there and say I saw some crazy
stuff with you guys. I mean really

664
00:40:38.320 --> 00:40:42.519
like it's for many years we wished
people like you guys would do this,

665
00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:45.840
So thank you but what about you. I know you've told me, but

666
00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:49.119
for them, yeah, yeah,
absolutely. So I've actually been listening to

667
00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:52.559
the podcasts since the first episode or
episode zero, as you guys labeled it.

668
00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:58.519
So I first discovered you and your
dad's story on the ten foil Hat

669
00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:01.639
podcast. Shout out Sam Tripp.
Yeah, shout out Sam. I almost

670
00:41:01.679 --> 00:41:06.400
went on there the other day,
but they had a cancelation kind of situation.

671
00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:09.679
Yeah, that would have been awesome. But I had kind of gone

672
00:41:09.679 --> 00:41:13.960
down a rabbit hole of just really
getting into conspiracy theories. And I was

673
00:41:13.960 --> 00:41:15.519
a big fan of his show,
you know, I really enjoyed listening to

674
00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:21.039
it. And I heard your episode
where you announced actually that you were going

675
00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:23.920
to be starting your own podcast,
and as you were telling your story,

676
00:41:24.039 --> 00:41:29.599
just the amount of synchronicities between you
and myself, I was like, there

677
00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:31.199
is something to this. I've got
to I've got to follow this guy.

678
00:41:31.239 --> 00:41:34.280
I mean, I don't remember them
all off the top of my head,

679
00:41:34.280 --> 00:41:36.719
but to name a few. You
know, we share the same first name

680
00:41:36.760 --> 00:41:40.320
and middle initial. We live in
the same city. You know. I

681
00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:44.519
was as I listened to the episode, I was like, what this this

682
00:41:44.719 --> 00:41:49.159
is crazy. So immediately I went
and followed you on Twitter, and then

683
00:41:49.239 --> 00:41:52.119
as soon as you announced that the
podcast was going to be live, you

684
00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:55.079
know, I subscribed to it on
on the Apple podcast and I've just been

685
00:41:55.119 --> 00:42:00.320
following ever since. Wow, thank
you man, That's that's awesome. And

686
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:02.119
like, dude, there's no doubt
in my mind that we were all supposed

687
00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:07.119
to meet, because like, how
many people do you live in a city

688
00:42:07.119 --> 00:42:09.800
with that even that you know,
right, somebody you know and you never

689
00:42:09.880 --> 00:42:15.880
bump into him in public? Right? Yet how often does that happen?

690
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:17.480
I mean, sure it happens,
but the fact that we had never even

691
00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:22.280
met, and by the way,
you forgot to mention this detail. You

692
00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:25.440
forgot to mention that you were listening
to frequencies, yeah, when you had

693
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:29.360
that experience. Yeah, that's true. Whenever I had the dream, I

694
00:42:29.360 --> 00:42:31.920
had been listening to some soft Edgio
frequencies yep, five eight right, yep,

695
00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:35.760
yep. He's listening to these frequencies
and he had this thing pop up.

696
00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:37.639
I'm going to meet him, and
then boom we hit each other in

697
00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:42.440
public. That's no accident, right, just a matter of weeks. It's

698
00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:45.000
weird. Yeah. So now we're
going to go and I want to start

699
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:46.960
with you this time, Ryan,
and then we'll go back to Kyle.

700
00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:52.840
Have you noticed any inner changes since
that night, since seeing the lights,

701
00:42:53.400 --> 00:43:00.280
thoughts, feelings, anything, Uh, really just a different energy, you

702
00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:04.719
know. As I mentioned earlier,
it was kind of a confirmation of just

703
00:43:04.840 --> 00:43:08.599
knowing what I've believed for a while. And it honestly just makes me want

704
00:43:08.760 --> 00:43:13.719
to be a better person, knowing, like getting that confirmation that yeah,

705
00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:16.159
the Holy Spirit is there and she
is listening, and as you said earlier,

706
00:43:16.239 --> 00:43:20.800
she knows me better than I do. So it really just wants makes

707
00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:23.559
me want to better myself and share
the knowledge that I have with other people.

708
00:43:23.599 --> 00:43:27.639
And that's part of the reason that
I am so willing to come on

709
00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:30.559
here and you know, do this
with you guys, is I want to

710
00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:34.440
spread that knowledge. I want people
to know that anybody can have this experience.

711
00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:37.199
It's just a matter of getting your
heart into the right place and having

712
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:40.880
the right intentions. Yeah, well
it's because you're a g and the same

713
00:43:40.920 --> 00:43:45.039
with me. I mean, you
know, you see something like this and

714
00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:47.239
you mean you have to go out
and tell somebody, you have to share

715
00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:52.119
that, And I definitely the whole
thing has been a personal transformation a spiritual

716
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:57.440
journey and it continues to grow.
And you know, the relationship you have

717
00:43:58.079 --> 00:44:01.800
with God, the Holy Spirit is
an important factor in all this and definitely

718
00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:07.239
has been life changing and and it
just has escalated as you know, going

719
00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:10.519
going to the SkyWatch. I mean, it's been happening for now for several

720
00:44:10.599 --> 00:44:15.199
years for me, and then it's
just the next you know, continued growth

721
00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:17.760
and uh, you know, I'm
just so grateful I got opportunity. You

722
00:44:17.800 --> 00:44:21.639
know that you let me come out. We don't have to say names,

723
00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:24.920
you don't have to like reveal anybody
or expose anybody, but I'm very curious

724
00:44:24.920 --> 00:44:28.159
to know. And again, I
know we talked about this on full disclosure,

725
00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:30.800
but this is a new ding,
so we'll just we'll hash it out

726
00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:34.480
again. But for you, Kyle, after that night, did you go

727
00:44:34.559 --> 00:44:37.519
and like tell anybody in person about
what you saw? I'm curious, like,

728
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:40.760
did you tell anyone? What were
the reactions the reception? Yeah,

729
00:44:40.760 --> 00:44:44.960
I definitely told. I told my
family directly, and you know, my

730
00:44:45.079 --> 00:44:49.119
kids and my wife and my dad
and my sister and I you know,

731
00:44:49.159 --> 00:44:53.320
went great detail and you know,
and they've kind of known. I've talked

732
00:44:53.360 --> 00:44:58.480
about it some with them. And
but obviously when I say hey, and

733
00:44:58.519 --> 00:45:00.519
I told them the same thing I'm
telling everyone, you know that it becomes

734
00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:04.079
real, like say, hey,
I was you know, I saw it.

735
00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:07.239
I was right there, you know. Yeah, and yeah, I

736
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:12.679
think the reception was taken pretty well. And you know, it's an unknown

737
00:45:12.719 --> 00:45:15.519
thing for so many people. Yeah, for sure. And how about you,

738
00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:20.159
Yeah I know the answer. Yeah, Well for everybody that doesn't know

739
00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:22.039
the answer, I have taken it
back. I've been sharing it with co

740
00:45:22.079 --> 00:45:25.639
workers. A guy that I used
to work with. Actually I recorded some

741
00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:30.760
videos on my phone that night,
so I was able to take that and

742
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:32.800
actually show people. The guy that
I used to work with. His name

743
00:45:32.840 --> 00:45:37.360
is Greg. Shout out Greg.
Yeah, he listens to the podcast sometimes.

744
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:40.559
He's got a copy of your Dad's
book. He's a big fan of

745
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:45.039
what you guys are doing as well. So I sent him some videos.

746
00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:46.760
I showed him to a couple of
buddies at work, showed them to my

747
00:45:46.800 --> 00:45:51.480
girlfriend. So yeah, I mean, anybody that'll listen, you know,

748
00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:53.760
I've been taking it back and telling
them and they're like receptive. Yeah,

749
00:45:53.840 --> 00:45:57.719
that's the main thing, is like, it's that people are receptive. Yeah,

750
00:45:57.719 --> 00:45:59.760
And I mean That's part of the
reason that I wanted to get the

751
00:45:59.840 --> 00:46:02.559
video deos because it's one thing to
hear it, it's another thing to see

752
00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:07.239
it. And so just having that
video evidence to be able to show somebody,

753
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:10.599
even if they haven't had the experience
on their own and they haven't seen

754
00:46:10.639 --> 00:46:14.800
it in the sky themselves, I
can just take it and show them,

755
00:46:14.840 --> 00:46:15.960
like, hey, this this is
what we saw that night. You know,

756
00:46:16.000 --> 00:46:20.639
this is the Holy Spirit. Yeah, and you guys are a little

757
00:46:20.719 --> 00:46:23.440
lucky. I'm not gonna lie because
you know, being in your shoe and

758
00:46:23.480 --> 00:46:27.360
like, make no mistake, Like, you guys had an experience, right,

759
00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:29.840
we all did? Yeah, sure, yeah, for sure. My

760
00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:34.760
father and I helped facilitate it because
we've been in this game communicating with these

761
00:46:34.920 --> 00:46:38.519
entities for seventeen years, so we
just like we kind of just were a

762
00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:43.840
little ahead of the curve. But
like that experience wasn't for us. It

763
00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:45.880
wasn't for me and my dad,
it was for all of us. Like

764
00:46:46.280 --> 00:46:51.320
I don't know if you've like clicked
this in your brain, but like you

765
00:46:51.599 --> 00:46:55.000
had an experience, right, Yes, you had an entity experience. Sure.

766
00:46:55.039 --> 00:46:58.760
It looks like balls of light in
the sky and it didn't come down

767
00:46:58.840 --> 00:47:02.639
manifest like I want you to like
going forward, I want you to begin,

768
00:47:02.840 --> 00:47:06.519
like my dad says, you know, imagine. What I always do

769
00:47:06.599 --> 00:47:08.599
is I imagine. I don't imagine
balls of light, you know what I

770
00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:12.760
mean? Yeah, I see those. I don't need to imagine them.

771
00:47:13.119 --> 00:47:19.599
What I imagine is the being,
the real being behind the ball of light.

772
00:47:19.800 --> 00:47:21.800
And you know, I'm lucky because
I've seen them, you know,

773
00:47:21.920 --> 00:47:24.599
But like that's what I want to
click in your brain. Like you guys

774
00:47:24.960 --> 00:47:32.159
saw something that was intelligent, beyond
fathom, that was aware of you,

775
00:47:34.199 --> 00:47:39.119
watching you, reacting in a way
so that your mind would be blown.

776
00:47:39.559 --> 00:47:46.159
Why to awaken you, to give
you that knowing beyond a shadow of a

777
00:47:46.199 --> 00:47:49.559
doubt, you know, And like
that's why I wanted to say, you

778
00:47:49.559 --> 00:47:52.239
guys are a little lucky because you
had us to show you the ropes.

779
00:47:52.519 --> 00:47:55.519
But seventeen years ago, when we
were having these experiences and we did,

780
00:47:55.559 --> 00:47:59.400
like you guys, we go tell
everybody and they're like, ah, you're

781
00:47:59.719 --> 00:48:06.880
in Yeah, I'm really glad that
it's like we get to help people have

782
00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:10.199
these experiences. But it be comfortable, it'd be right, it be you

783
00:48:10.199 --> 00:48:13.840
know, there's no doubt about any
of it. You know, it's like

784
00:48:14.440 --> 00:48:16.320
they're proofs in the pudding. And
then for anybody that like you going forward

785
00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:20.320
telling your experience, if they doubt
you, it's like, no, look

786
00:48:20.519 --> 00:48:22.440
look at this documentary. See that
guy, that's my friend. I've been

787
00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:27.480
there, not not on the episode, but you know, yeah, I

788
00:48:27.519 --> 00:48:30.119
track so many people to your dad's
Instagram, like you want to go,

789
00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:30.840
you know, you want to see
what I saw. Go look at these

790
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:35.480
videos. You know. It's cool
to think about, right, Yeah.

791
00:48:35.519 --> 00:48:38.159
And I believe having the opportunity to
share that experience with you guys is a

792
00:48:38.159 --> 00:48:42.159
big part of the reason I was
able to go back and have the experience

793
00:48:42.239 --> 00:48:45.440
on my own, because naturally,
I'm kind of a skeptical person, and

794
00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:49.360
there was always, you know,
even though I believed, there was always

795
00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:52.840
a little shred of doubt in the
back of my mind. And having you

796
00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:58.199
guys facilitate that for us and seeing
it myself, there's no doubt at all

797
00:48:58.320 --> 00:49:00.000
anymore. And then, like I
said, a couple of weeks later,

798
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:02.840
I went back home and was looking
at the sky and I saw orbs on

799
00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:07.320
my own and just having that,
knowing that confirmation, you know, it

800
00:49:07.400 --> 00:49:12.119
removed any shred of doubt, and
like I said, anybody can do it.

801
00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:15.480
You just have to believe. Yeah, you just you have to you

802
00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:17.719
know, be thankful and humble and
all that stuff that we talk about all

803
00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:22.440
the time. But like we also
forgot to mention that night, what was

804
00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:23.400
that last week? Right? Why
saw the word? Yeah, it was

805
00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:28.440
a little over a week ago.
And the crazy thing about it was within

806
00:49:28.599 --> 00:49:30.800
minutes of me seeing the ORB,
you texted me and you know that was

807
00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:34.320
just a little on the show.
Yeah, that was just a little bit

808
00:49:34.360 --> 00:49:36.960
more of a confirmation to me.
You know what, I got the receipts

809
00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:39.320
here. Let's have that out because
it's a really I was showing people this.

810
00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:47.280
I'm not gonna lie. Okay,
So I texted you Wednesday, October

811
00:49:47.320 --> 00:49:50.760
eighteenth. What is today, guys, the twenty eighth, So ten days

812
00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:54.800
ago I texted you. You came
over and did full disclosure the week before

813
00:49:54.840 --> 00:49:58.960
that. I believe that, sayning's
about right. Yeah, we recorded together

814
00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:02.320
and we talked about it that night. I was like, Ryan, I

815
00:50:02.320 --> 00:50:05.599
think I want to do something on
the main show. And me, you

816
00:50:05.639 --> 00:50:07.519
and Alex and Jenny hashed it out. It's like we can invite Kyle we

817
00:50:07.559 --> 00:50:10.079
can do a whole big episode,
you know, but we don't meet again

818
00:50:10.159 --> 00:50:14.480
until October twenty eighth, So keep
it tentative. If you have other plans,

819
00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:17.360
that's totally fine, but just like, be open to the idea that

820
00:50:17.400 --> 00:50:20.960
we might love to have you on
that day. Let me just figure out

821
00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:22.239
a couple other details. Let me
talk to Kyle, this, that and

822
00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:27.039
the other. So okay, So
then the next week I text you again.

823
00:50:27.119 --> 00:50:29.840
On Wednesday, October eighteenth, I
say confirmed for the twenty eighth.

824
00:50:29.920 --> 00:50:35.199
I even got up with Kyle and
you texted me and you said, crazy

825
00:50:35.239 --> 00:50:37.519
timing. I was just about to
text you I just saw an ORB for

826
00:50:37.559 --> 00:50:39.840
the first time by myself, and
he said, like, you know,

827
00:50:39.880 --> 00:50:43.599
sounds good, looking forward to it. And it took me a while to

828
00:50:43.599 --> 00:50:46.079
respond because actually I think I was
recording an episode that night on the main

829
00:50:46.079 --> 00:50:49.199
show, but virtually, so it
took me like an hour and a half

830
00:50:49.199 --> 00:50:52.159
to respond. I was like,
oh, that's insane just now seeing this.

831
00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:55.000
That means that this is meant to
happen. Very excited to records,

832
00:50:55.039 --> 00:50:59.519
no coincidence, We'll coordinate as we
get closer. Whatever, And you said,

833
00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:02.480
I hope you don't mind that I'm
reading with you. You said,

834
00:51:02.760 --> 00:51:06.360
I'm excited. Two men caught out
to the Holy Spirit asked for her to

835
00:51:06.400 --> 00:51:08.920
present herself if it was her will
saw an orb drift across the sky,

836
00:51:09.039 --> 00:51:13.119
fading in and out. And then
I texted you minutes later, right,

837
00:51:13.159 --> 00:51:15.400
And the connection there between you know, getting you on the show and you

838
00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:20.559
seeing the thing. And then I
said, boom, I messaged you minutes

839
00:51:20.599 --> 00:51:22.679
later and asked you to come on
the show and talk about it. And

840
00:51:22.719 --> 00:51:24.519
you see the orb. See how
that works? And right, I said,

841
00:51:24.519 --> 00:51:27.880
no such thing as coincidence. And
then I said exactly, And it

842
00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:31.159
was a gift of Yoda, because
I'm trying to like help you, like

843
00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:37.519
my whole key, my whole purpose
in all of this, all of it

844
00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:42.719
since episode zero, even if even
when we have a freaking episode that has

845
00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:47.760
nothing to do with anything and you
know, probably are not so greatest episode

846
00:51:47.800 --> 00:51:52.239
where we're eating out of a bowl
of M and M's talking about mudra's and

847
00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:54.920
monstras, Even if we have an
episode where we're talking about Harry Potter,

848
00:51:55.079 --> 00:52:00.400
if it doesn't matter what we're talking
about, whatever we're doing might and higher

849
00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:04.039
goal of all of this from the
start, it's like you have TV shows,

850
00:52:04.079 --> 00:52:06.760
right, and like there's the canon
and then there's the filler. Well,

851
00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:08.920
this is the canon. This is
what it's all about. To me,

852
00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:15.239
my whole purpose is just trying to
show people how to do this,

853
00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:21.599
to to not gatekeep, but to
give it to everybody, to share with

854
00:52:21.639 --> 00:52:24.039
everybody. I want everybody to experience
this. I want everybody to know about

855
00:52:24.079 --> 00:52:27.760
this, truthfully, I want the
whole world to know about it, you

856
00:52:27.760 --> 00:52:30.920
know, I want everybody so like, it's just crazy that it's happening,

857
00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:35.760
and like it's crazy for me that
I get to be a part of,

858
00:52:35.880 --> 00:52:44.639
like guiding at least two people.
Yeah, yeah, you know. One

859
00:52:44.639 --> 00:52:47.039
thing that gets me is like the
I don't I think it's missed. Is

860
00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:51.199
like talking about the synchronicities and like
the dreams and all this kind of stuff,

861
00:52:51.199 --> 00:52:52.519
and how you know, trying to
explain that to people is really difficult.

862
00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:55.400
You know, the fact that you
you know, I saw an orb

863
00:52:55.400 --> 00:52:59.199
at the same moment that he was
texting you. Those types of things to

864
00:52:59.239 --> 00:53:01.440
me, are really hard to portray
to people. But they're going on,

865
00:53:01.519 --> 00:53:06.119
and they're happening with apparently a lot
of people and all the time, and

866
00:53:06.599 --> 00:53:09.320
it's definitely happened with me, and
it's been happening, and it's happening with

867
00:53:09.360 --> 00:53:13.159
you. And then there's countless others
that you blew my dad's mind that night

868
00:53:13.400 --> 00:53:16.880
and you don't even know why because
you told them the story about how your

869
00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:21.519
first orb siding was when you were
telling a friend about my dad. Yeah,

870
00:53:21.679 --> 00:53:23.000
so we leave the beach that night, we get home, my mom

871
00:53:23.079 --> 00:53:24.920
and dad loved you guys, by
the way. They thought you were just

872
00:53:24.960 --> 00:53:30.320
the nicest guys. Like, definitely
from now on, you know, when

873
00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:32.360
we keep doing these skywatchers, like, I'm going to be inviting you guys.

874
00:53:32.360 --> 00:53:36.920
I'd love for the more people who
are there that know about this and

875
00:53:37.000 --> 00:53:39.000
are not skeptical. It energized the
whole group. And I don't want to

876
00:53:39.119 --> 00:53:42.880
call out anybody, but we did
have a skeptic in that crowd that night,

877
00:53:43.480 --> 00:53:46.239
and by the end of it,
it was funny actually because like kind

878
00:53:46.239 --> 00:53:49.440
of you know, a little bit. I don't want to say grumpy,

879
00:53:49.480 --> 00:53:52.239
that's not the right word, but
just imagine being somebody who's not into all

880
00:53:52.239 --> 00:53:54.000
this. Your wife's bringing you there
and you're like, you know, being

881
00:53:54.000 --> 00:53:58.039
a good husband, You're showing up, but you're like kind of very visibly

882
00:53:58.079 --> 00:54:00.360
not into all this. By the
end of the night, he was in

883
00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:06.920
the pictures. He was seeing the
crazy flashes. And at first, you

884
00:54:06.960 --> 00:54:08.159
remember, right, he was like, nah, I don't take pictures.

885
00:54:08.320 --> 00:54:12.079
I don't like being in pictures.
He didn't want to be associated. And

886
00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:15.119
then Dad said, okay, guys, usually, you know, when we

887
00:54:15.239 --> 00:54:16.880
leave, they give us one final
show to say goodbye and have a good

888
00:54:16.960 --> 00:54:20.320
night. Right, they don't.
Actually, the beings don't say goodbye,

889
00:54:20.360 --> 00:54:22.840
I have a good night. They
do some crazy flash that's like, okay,

890
00:54:22.840 --> 00:54:25.760
that was the finale usually, and
it did. And the thing shot

891
00:54:25.840 --> 00:54:30.559
straight down into the ocean, and
I missed it because I was looking at

892
00:54:30.559 --> 00:54:32.360
the camera because we were taking a
group picture at that moment. Y'all all

893
00:54:32.400 --> 00:54:36.400
saw it, but me next thing, I know, I'm looking at the

894
00:54:36.400 --> 00:54:40.199
pictures later, and that guy was
in it. Yeah, that got to

895
00:54:40.280 --> 00:54:43.400
him. He literally said out loud, he said, Okay, that was

896
00:54:43.440 --> 00:54:45.239
weird or something like that, and
he was in the picture. So it's

897
00:54:45.239 --> 00:54:49.840
funny like even even the skeptic dude
in the crowd, he was he was

898
00:54:49.960 --> 00:54:52.960
changed. Yeah, I mean it's
undeniable. It's undeniable. Yeah, And

899
00:54:53.000 --> 00:54:57.280
the more of us who are there
who who have that knowing, You know,

900
00:54:57.360 --> 00:55:00.840
it helps the whole group, you
know what I mean, Like the

901
00:55:00.840 --> 00:55:05.199
one skeptic couldn't stand up to the
ten people who were really into this.

902
00:55:05.360 --> 00:55:08.400
And that's cool. But yeah,
so you blew my dad's mind because you're

903
00:55:08.400 --> 00:55:12.440
not the first person who's told him
that. He's been told that by a

904
00:55:12.559 --> 00:55:15.159
lot, like a staggering amount of
people that Like when I told somebody about

905
00:55:15.159 --> 00:55:17.719
you in orbit here and we both
saw it. Yeah, and how do

906
00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:20.519
you explain that? I mean,
you know, where does this come for?

907
00:55:20.800 --> 00:55:23.079
You know that I was telling this
story, is repeating his story.

908
00:55:23.880 --> 00:55:28.039
You know, it's just it's unfathomable, but it happened. And you know

909
00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:30.559
what does that mean? I don't
know. Yeah, honestly, I mean

910
00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:34.760
I can only speculate, right,
Yeah, I can only speculate that maybe

911
00:55:34.760 --> 00:55:42.400
it's like maybe the beings are so
smart that they like the association. You

912
00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:45.199
know. It's like if I go
and say, God, I really don't

913
00:55:45.199 --> 00:55:50.039
want to like call anybody out by
name and be negative, but you know

914
00:55:50.079 --> 00:55:52.639
people out there who are pushing pig
stuff, but we'll do one this to

915
00:55:52.639 --> 00:55:55.280
throw away. If I go out
there and there and say, you know,

916
00:55:55.519 --> 00:56:00.679
Corey Good. They'd be a little
disappointing if beings to are showing up,

917
00:56:00.760 --> 00:56:01.719
right, because that's the you know, if you think about it,

918
00:56:01.719 --> 00:56:06.960
it's like, okay, well if
I say this person's name and then some

919
00:56:07.199 --> 00:56:09.159
entity appears, well, you know, if you think about it for just

920
00:56:09.239 --> 00:56:14.480
five seconds, that entity is kind
of like attached to that person, you

921
00:56:14.480 --> 00:56:20.480
know, endorsing that person, confirming
that that person you know, And there's

922
00:56:20.480 --> 00:56:23.159
not a lot of people out there
in the public space who are It's just

923
00:56:23.199 --> 00:56:28.239
an unfortunate reality that the majority of
UFO information. I mean, you know,

924
00:56:28.239 --> 00:56:30.599
I hate that I even have to
describe this. I've grown up around

925
00:56:30.639 --> 00:56:32.920
CIA and NASA and all these intelligence
agencies. I'm telling you most of it's

926
00:56:32.960 --> 00:56:37.440
fake, you know. So it's
like it makes sense that when you're telling

927
00:56:37.480 --> 00:56:42.360
this story that you know, just
hey, here's my friend who experiences this

928
00:56:42.440 --> 00:56:45.920
boom. Okay, well we actually
see those beings. They're omni dimensional,

929
00:56:45.960 --> 00:56:51.519
they're everywhere, so sure they would
give you a flash at a different location,

930
00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:53.960
but it's the confirmation for you and
your friend that like, oh man,

931
00:56:54.079 --> 00:56:57.800
like this is real. Yeah,
you know, it makes sense.

932
00:56:57.840 --> 00:57:00.800
That's that's where my mind goes.
But as you said, this is just

933
00:57:00.840 --> 00:57:04.440
speculation. But to give my two
cents on it, I believe that the

934
00:57:04.480 --> 00:57:07.960
beings will drop little bread crumbs to
let you know that you're moving in the

935
00:57:07.039 --> 00:57:09.960
right direction. You know, as
you journey along your path to truth,

936
00:57:10.679 --> 00:57:15.159
you know, you'll see synchronicities,
or you'll see Ryan will text you whenever

937
00:57:15.159 --> 00:57:19.920
you see an ORB or something like
that, or whenever you're mentioning Chris's story,

938
00:57:20.400 --> 00:57:22.000
you know, you see an ORB
and they're just dropping little bread crumbs

939
00:57:22.039 --> 00:57:25.360
to let you know that you're going
down the right path and that you're getting

940
00:57:25.360 --> 00:57:29.760
you're getting closer. Yeah, yeah, it definitely feels like that. Yeah,

941
00:57:29.800 --> 00:57:34.000
it's weird. But like you know, I like to ask this.

942
00:57:34.400 --> 00:57:36.800
I don't always remember too, but
I like to ask this to guests who

943
00:57:36.840 --> 00:57:39.679
come on our show, And I
want to ask both of you if you

944
00:57:39.920 --> 00:57:46.079
had a scenario in which and keep
in mind, sure we are recording right

945
00:57:46.119 --> 00:57:51.199
now, so maybe this is that
scenario, you know, but if realistically,

946
00:57:51.239 --> 00:57:53.480
if you had a scenario in which
you know, the whole world could

947
00:57:53.480 --> 00:57:57.039
hear what you had to say,
what was most important to you, what

948
00:57:57.159 --> 00:57:59.320
stands out to you. It doesn't
even have to be about the beings or

949
00:57:59.360 --> 00:58:01.719
you know whatever. Just like if
you had that last thing that you could

950
00:58:01.760 --> 00:58:07.199
communicate to people, that's a special
something from your inner being that you desire

951
00:58:07.239 --> 00:58:09.320
for others to know to help them
grow. What would it be you want

952
00:58:09.360 --> 00:58:13.800
to take you that first? Sure, I'll go first. And this is

953
00:58:13.840 --> 00:58:16.440
something that I've said before, But
to me, the one thing that I'd

954
00:58:16.440 --> 00:58:22.679
like for everybody to know is that
this can happen to anybody. One of

955
00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:25.679
the reasons that I had doubts to
begin with was in the back of my

956
00:58:25.760 --> 00:58:30.440
mind. I've always felt like it
took a special type of person or only

957
00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:36.000
some people got to experience this.
But if you believe and you know,

958
00:58:36.320 --> 00:58:39.079
and your heart is in the right
place, anybody can have this experience.

959
00:58:39.199 --> 00:58:44.079
Ryan said it earlier. The beings, the Holy Spirit, they have a

960
00:58:44.079 --> 00:58:49.360
connection to everyone. So anybody listening
to this, if your heart is in

961
00:58:49.400 --> 00:58:52.159
the right place, you set your
intentions, They're going to show themselves to

962
00:58:52.199 --> 00:58:55.199
you whenever they feel that the time
is right, and this can happen to

963
00:58:55.239 --> 00:58:59.559
anyone. Yeah. No, that's
beautiful and I'm right there with you.

964
00:58:59.599 --> 00:59:04.039
That's like a similar thing is the
spiritual growth? How important it is you

965
00:59:04.039 --> 00:59:07.599
know, trying to find love in
your life and you know, dispelling the

966
00:59:07.599 --> 00:59:14.199
negativity, the positivity. Those have
all been critical in my journey and there's

967
00:59:14.239 --> 00:59:19.800
no doubt that has a lot to
do with this connection and anybody can do

968
00:59:19.960 --> 00:59:22.599
and can have it. These things
are real, they are happening, and

969
00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:25.400
uh, you know it's it's a
personal connection and it has to do with

970
00:59:25.480 --> 00:59:30.159
you. It's these are not external
things that are you know, just randomly

971
00:59:30.159 --> 00:59:32.800
happening. Has to do with your
your spiritual growth. Yeah, yeah,

972
00:59:34.000 --> 00:59:36.880
well it's it's the true. It's
been told for thousands of years. You

973
00:59:36.920 --> 00:59:39.880
have Shamans who've been saying this,
Native Americans, you know, and and

974
00:59:39.960 --> 00:59:45.599
even like the the Paote Shamans in
Mexico. Oh my gosh, I just

975
00:59:45.880 --> 00:59:49.199
recently did a whole trip there and
was it was around Paoti shamans, and

976
00:59:49.280 --> 00:59:52.880
like, you know, moving on
from that, it's like there's so many

977
00:59:52.920 --> 00:59:55.280
ancient cultures throughout the world, and
then you get into the esoteric body of

978
00:59:55.320 --> 01:00:01.239
knowledge and and there's just so much
data that is like pretty much all saying

979
01:00:01.280 --> 01:00:07.639
the same thing that God is the
spirit. You know, that's that's abstract,

980
01:00:07.719 --> 01:00:10.400
right, Like what is the spirit
there's lots of spirits. Well yeah,

981
01:00:10.400 --> 01:00:15.039
but really, like imagine, there
is a force that's all around us,

982
01:00:15.559 --> 01:00:20.360
it's everywhere, it's within us.
Every breath that we breathe is animated

983
01:00:20.400 --> 01:00:24.159
from that spirit. The wind that
blows, all life that that comes here,

984
01:00:24.159 --> 01:00:30.280
it's all from one intelligent force or
mind or spirit. And like that's

985
01:00:30.320 --> 01:00:36.199
the thing that we've forgotten since ancient
times, is that like we're all connected

986
01:00:36.199 --> 01:00:43.519
to this spirit, but that connection
begins to grow when we seek that connection,

987
01:00:43.800 --> 01:00:45.440
you know. And like the reason
you guys even came to that beach

988
01:00:45.519 --> 01:00:50.400
that night and had that experience with
us is because you were seeking. I

989
01:00:50.440 --> 01:00:52.639
mean, it's just plain and simple. You know how many people, and

990
01:00:52.679 --> 01:00:57.559
I say this as humbly as possible, do you know how many people have

991
01:00:57.679 --> 01:01:02.079
come and like skywatched on our property
or around us, or in crowds or

992
01:01:02.119 --> 01:01:08.159
whatever. A lot, A lot, A lot government officials, congressmen,

993
01:01:08.480 --> 01:01:14.559
senators, billionaires, politicians, a
lot of people have come and skywatched with

994
01:01:14.679 --> 01:01:21.559
us. But that night that we
had was crazier than most of those SkyWatch

995
01:01:21.639 --> 01:01:25.519
experiences that I've ever seen. That
night that we shared together because you guys

996
01:01:25.559 --> 01:01:28.639
were seeking. And also, you
know, it's like it's on us too,

997
01:01:28.639 --> 01:01:32.559
because we also had the intention to
to spread it. Yeah, we've

998
01:01:32.599 --> 01:01:36.159
never tried that, you know.
So it's like we all had these intent

999
01:01:36.239 --> 01:01:40.400
we were all seeking something that night, right, But like the experiences we

1000
01:01:40.440 --> 01:01:46.880
had that night were the things that
Dad and myself and my siblings experience in

1001
01:01:46.920 --> 01:01:51.480
private. That's what I'm trying to
convey to you guys, Like I wanted

1002
01:01:51.639 --> 01:01:55.320
to click in your brain that something
special happened that night, you know.

1003
01:01:55.519 --> 01:01:59.079
Yeah, And that was the question
I had, like is this normal because

1004
01:01:59.079 --> 01:02:00.639
I don't you know that know what
now I see all the time. Not

1005
01:02:00.679 --> 01:02:05.360
normal for for guests, I guess, Okay, yeah, that's it was.

1006
01:02:05.519 --> 01:02:07.039
It was amazing, you know,
that's what a great first time.

1007
01:02:07.559 --> 01:02:12.039
Yeah, I mean, I'm extremely
grateful to have had the opportunity to share

1008
01:02:12.039 --> 01:02:15.280
that experience with you guys and to
have been a part of it. And

1009
01:02:15.440 --> 01:02:19.840
man, it was just mind blowing, you know, yeah, for sure

1010
01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:24.599
for all of us, even the
skeptic photo especially. Yeah, and you

1011
01:02:24.679 --> 01:02:29.119
know, like for anybody out there
who who would feel like, oh man,

1012
01:02:29.119 --> 01:02:31.360
I wish I could have been there, Well that's possible because the whole

1013
01:02:31.360 --> 01:02:35.519
idea of this was you know,
Dad and I and the whole crew,

1014
01:02:35.639 --> 01:02:40.199
everybody really involved in this. We
we fully intend, like we want to

1015
01:02:40.239 --> 01:02:45.239
do this more. We we.
It's just like I had a certain point,

1016
01:02:45.320 --> 01:02:50.039
man, like I'm just so tired
of only talking on camera. Really

1017
01:02:50.079 --> 01:02:52.719
like I love this. I don't
get tired of this, but I'm tired

1018
01:02:52.760 --> 01:02:54.519
of only doing this, Like it's
not enough for me. I want to

1019
01:02:54.960 --> 01:02:59.360
I want to show people. I
want people to see this. There's no

1020
01:02:59.480 --> 01:03:06.800
better thing than seeing someone's face the
first time they see this phenomenon. It's

1021
01:03:06.880 --> 01:03:09.800
like I can't I just can't describe
it, you know, I can't describe

1022
01:03:09.800 --> 01:03:17.440
it. There's no greater display of
emotion and shock, but like in the

1023
01:03:17.480 --> 01:03:22.840
brightest smile possible, you know,
like the good shock. It's something about

1024
01:03:22.880 --> 01:03:28.440
witnessing this that is it makes you
feel alive, you know. And I

1025
01:03:28.480 --> 01:03:30.039
want to show this to as many
people as possible. So like, yeah,

1026
01:03:30.039 --> 01:03:36.920
we fully intend. It'll be a
little while because I was like me

1027
01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:37.880
and Alex were talking about this,
It's like, dang, you know,

1028
01:03:37.960 --> 01:03:42.320
I'll just put it out on Instagram
or you know whatever social media. And

1029
01:03:42.360 --> 01:03:44.880
I have friends with like huge followings
that are willing to help push it.

1030
01:03:44.960 --> 01:03:46.719
I'll just put it on the internet
and we'll just invite the whole world and

1031
01:03:46.760 --> 01:03:50.639
whoever shows up shows up. You
know, there could be a thousand people,

1032
01:03:50.679 --> 01:03:52.599
there could be five hundred, who
knows, but we'll just it.

1033
01:03:52.639 --> 01:03:57.079
We'll invite you to the public.
And Dad's like, no, I'd rather

1034
01:03:57.599 --> 01:04:00.880
start small and work our way up. So we went from inviting the whole

1035
01:04:00.880 --> 01:04:05.440
world to eleven people. Yeah,
you know, and we hand picked each

1036
01:04:05.480 --> 01:04:10.880
one of you. But but but
the idea here is building up to what

1037
01:04:11.159 --> 01:04:18.559
our Patreon discord server the omies,
what they have termed bss Fest, which

1038
01:04:19.239 --> 01:04:26.599
I must admit maybe still not one
hundred percent on that, but I think

1039
01:04:26.719 --> 01:04:30.239
the more I consider it, the
more I just like the jingle jangle of

1040
01:04:30.320 --> 01:04:35.519
that phrase. So I don't know, but we're working towards some real event

1041
01:04:35.679 --> 01:04:39.639
where we can get as many people
to see as possible. So you know,

1042
01:04:39.800 --> 01:04:43.039
send us good vibes and you know, amazing things are happening, and

1043
01:04:43.079 --> 01:04:45.079
thank you guys for coming on,
thank you for having us and take us

1044
01:04:45.079 --> 01:04:48.039
out the SkyWatch. I mean it
was you know, the most incredible thing,

1045
01:04:48.159 --> 01:04:51.519
you know is you can't really explain
it in words. It's, you

1046
01:04:51.559 --> 01:04:56.639
know, something you have to experience. Yeah, it's feelings, like pure

1047
01:04:56.760 --> 01:05:00.039
feeling seeing this stuff. It's like
it's funny because like I was looking at

1048
01:05:00.079 --> 01:05:02.639
Ryan because he was sitting by me, and then you were on the other

1049
01:05:02.639 --> 01:05:04.960
side of my dead right right.
Like I was sitting beside Ryan on the

1050
01:05:04.960 --> 01:05:08.480
outside of the group, and I
kept looking over at you, Ryan,

1051
01:05:08.599 --> 01:05:13.559
like kind of like peeking at you, and you were just face I mean,

1052
01:05:13.599 --> 01:05:15.000
I was it was a lot to
process, man, you know,

1053
01:05:15.079 --> 01:05:19.920
I was just in shock and awe
and it was really the moment that everything

1054
01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:24.920
came to fruition. So I mean
there may not have been much expression on

1055
01:05:24.920 --> 01:05:28.920
my face, but there was a
lot going on inside. Yeah, I

1056
01:05:29.000 --> 01:05:30.519
felt the same way. I was
just like, you know, what do

1057
01:05:30.559 --> 01:05:33.039
you where do you go with this? And you know, and I just

1058
01:05:33.039 --> 01:05:35.320
felt bad too because I wanted to, you know, talk to everybody and

1059
01:05:35.440 --> 01:05:38.880
really get to know but it was
dark out there and all that kind of

1060
01:05:38.920 --> 01:05:43.000
stuff, and but I was just
processing so much information all at the same

1061
01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:45.159
time. I was like, wow, sit, nowhere to go with it?

1062
01:05:45.199 --> 01:05:48.239
I mean I was thinking about it
for days. And and another thing

1063
01:05:48.239 --> 01:05:51.119
too, is like after you know, after that, and I've been doing

1064
01:05:51.159 --> 01:05:53.920
this, but it makes you want
to see it more and you want to

1065
01:05:53.960 --> 01:05:56.119
go out. Do you SkyWatch more
now? I mean I feel like I

1066
01:05:56.800 --> 01:06:00.199
go even more now, Yeah,
like in my backyard or whatever. Yeah,

1067
01:06:00.280 --> 01:06:02.440
yeah, I mean now that I've
seen it and I've started having experiences

1068
01:06:02.480 --> 01:06:05.559
on my own any chance that I
get, you know, most of the

1069
01:06:05.599 --> 01:06:08.880
time, I go to bed kind
of early, so I don't always have

1070
01:06:08.920 --> 01:06:12.159
a lot of opportunity at night to
get out there. But anytime I've got

1071
01:06:12.159 --> 01:06:14.480
a couple of minutes, I go
out there and I try speaking to the

1072
01:06:14.480 --> 01:06:17.159
Holy Spirit. Yeah. And you
know, for anybody who's shocked by that,

1073
01:06:17.360 --> 01:06:20.239
like I want to clarify, like, you know, we say that

1074
01:06:20.280 --> 01:06:27.360
we'd Holy Spirit right, and my
expectation just from my experience from having met

1075
01:06:27.400 --> 01:06:30.320
so many people through this and especially
dealing with like the government officials, they

1076
01:06:30.320 --> 01:06:34.440
get really upfront like, oh,
you know, I haven't seen evidence of

1077
01:06:34.440 --> 01:06:36.440
God in our CIA files. I
was like, yeah, well, you

1078
01:06:36.440 --> 01:06:40.440
know, because you're not hanging out, you're not out there looking, you

1079
01:06:40.440 --> 01:06:46.599
know. They there's this pushback against
any sort of belief in the deity or

1080
01:06:46.639 --> 01:06:50.199
God or spirit or whatever, you
know. But like, just because we're

1081
01:06:50.199 --> 01:06:55.760
having these experiences that doesn't mean that
we're religious people, right, I mean,

1082
01:06:56.119 --> 01:06:58.960
it's not what it's about. I
want to clarify that. For the

1083
01:06:59.000 --> 01:07:03.119
people who hear those two words in
combination Holy Spirit and they're like, oh,

1084
01:07:03.159 --> 01:07:06.199
it's Christian, they're Christian nutters.
I'm backing out. I haven't been

1085
01:07:06.199 --> 01:07:11.320
a church in close to ten years
except for two or three times. It's

1086
01:07:11.559 --> 01:07:16.039
not about that. It's about it's
about developing the connection with something that's actually

1087
01:07:16.159 --> 01:07:18.920
out there, you know. And
it's like, for anybody who's confused,

1088
01:07:18.920 --> 01:07:21.360
why are we all of a sudden
dropping that bomb out of left field.

1089
01:07:21.519 --> 01:07:26.559
We'll go back to episode seventeen,
which is like probably our most popular episode,

1090
01:07:26.559 --> 01:07:30.880
the Regression Part two, and you'll
hear very plainly from the start we've

1091
01:07:30.920 --> 01:07:35.320
been saying that when this entity revealed
herself her identity, the lady, you

1092
01:07:35.360 --> 01:07:38.440
know, she said, you know, her name is Hathorp, but she

1093
01:07:38.480 --> 01:07:42.800
goes by many names. She said, she's the Holy Spirit. She's the

1094
01:07:42.840 --> 01:07:45.960
secret missing part of the Trinity.
She's what they called the comfort or she

1095
01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:48.119
comes to comfort us through our awakening. You know, she is the force

1096
01:07:48.280 --> 01:07:54.239
that is the breath of life,
that is the universal animation of all creations.

1097
01:07:54.280 --> 01:07:59.440
She is the force that animates creation. She is the force right if

1098
01:07:59.480 --> 01:08:00.679
like, if we have the Father
God and the Mother God, the Mother

1099
01:08:00.760 --> 01:08:05.599
God is the one that's here that's
interacting with us. She cares for us.

1100
01:08:06.079 --> 01:08:11.400
The breath that comes from our lungs, and you know we breathe in

1101
01:08:11.480 --> 01:08:14.960
and out. That's that's all her. That's all the force. Every living

1102
01:08:15.000 --> 01:08:16.720
thing breathes. I mean, sure
you got like bugs and things like that

1103
01:08:16.720 --> 01:08:20.479
that might not breathe, but you
know, I'm just saying, like there's

1104
01:08:20.479 --> 01:08:25.560
something to it, right, It's
not about being religious. It's just about

1105
01:08:26.039 --> 01:08:31.119
it's about knowing. It's about dispelling
the ignorance and understanding like that is real,

1106
01:08:31.600 --> 01:08:36.159
but maybe not in the way I
thought. You know, yeah,

1107
01:08:36.640 --> 01:08:43.119
but yeah, I mean it's crazy, man. Like that's something that recently,

1108
01:08:44.119 --> 01:08:47.640
again we talked about this on Full
Disclosure this past week. I have

1109
01:08:47.680 --> 01:08:49.800
to say this for the people that
hear that, and then they you know,

1110
01:08:49.800 --> 01:08:54.199
they also hear this. But that's
something that's just been rocking my world

1111
01:08:54.279 --> 01:08:57.760
lately. It's the whole Holy Spirit
thing, because it's like my whole life.

1112
01:08:57.800 --> 01:09:01.319
I've felt like I've been following behind
my dad, helping him tell this

1113
01:09:01.479 --> 01:09:06.800
story. Picking up the pieces as
they play out and telling about them,

1114
01:09:06.880 --> 01:09:11.880
not necessarily always firsthand involved with it
because he goes and he does his thing.

1115
01:09:11.920 --> 01:09:14.399
All these things are happening. As
a kid when it all started,

1116
01:09:14.800 --> 01:09:19.800
so in my mind the focus was
on different things. But lately I can't

1117
01:09:19.840 --> 01:09:29.800
help but constantly, at any given
moment, just be aware of the presence

1118
01:09:29.920 --> 01:09:39.319
of some omni dimensional, omnipresent,
omniscient, omni omnipotent you know, I

1119
01:09:39.319 --> 01:09:45.279
was just say omnipotent, but omnipotent
singular force, the Spirit, the Great

1120
01:09:45.319 --> 01:09:48.279
Spirit, right, Yeah, the
Holy Spirit's everywhere. Yeah, it's just

1121
01:09:48.319 --> 01:09:51.840
what it is. It's real crazy. I don't know, it's crazy.

1122
01:09:51.840 --> 01:09:56.199
I hope that makes sense. But
that night rock, Oh that makes sense.

1123
01:09:56.920 --> 01:10:00.000
You know. So awesome. You
guys did great, like honestly,

1124
01:10:00.199 --> 01:10:02.640
like you should be very proud of
yourselves. You did a wonderful job.

1125
01:10:03.319 --> 01:10:05.880
I'm very thankful you guys came on. You know how we in the show,

1126
01:10:05.960 --> 01:10:10.680
right, ye? Any last words, no, just thanks for having

1127
01:10:10.760 --> 01:10:14.239
us. Yeah, thank you,
awesome, thank you. Uh shout out

1128
01:10:14.239 --> 01:10:16.880
to Nick and Alex, who are
neuter today they do not have a microphone

1129
01:10:17.000 --> 01:10:18.840
for this episode. Wait, I
do want it? Can I shout out

1130
01:10:18.840 --> 01:10:20.960
somebody. Yeah, I want to
shout out Markaba Star, who's in the

1131
01:10:21.000 --> 01:10:25.359
Discord. Shout out Mark Star,
Yeah, shout out yeah, good friend

1132
01:10:25.399 --> 01:10:28.520
of mine. There's so many amazing
people in the Discord. And and you

1133
01:10:28.560 --> 01:10:30.359
know is you can't take that for
granted. I met so many people good,

1134
01:10:30.439 --> 01:10:33.000
you know, through there. Yeah, it's a great community. It's

1135
01:10:33.039 --> 01:10:36.560
fun. But yeah, that's all
I got. So you know how it

1136
01:10:36.560 --> 01:10:40.079
goes, right, yep, all
right, bye guys, Bye guy,

1137
01:10:40.159 --> 01:11:00.239
guys. Weird things happen in the
backyard blow house, so weird coming here,

1138
01:11:00.319 --> 01:11:09.640
stray up like smiring on the inside
of it. No one knows.

1139
01:11:09.760 --> 01:11:57.199
Mad. Wow, it's come.
I've ever got solid. Ain't happy.