WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.480 --> 00:00:15.320 Be bad. It's the Internet. You're busy. Let's do this for December 2 00:00:15.320 --> 00:00:18.760 fourteenth, twenty twenty three. For the next hour or so, let me 3 00:00:18.760 --> 00:00:22.039 help you sort through the world of gaming on Game Mess Mornings Live with me 4 00:00:22.280 --> 00:00:27.079 Jeff Grubb. Today we are getting a Spider Verse game and Kojima is finally 5 00:00:27.079 --> 00:00:30.640 going to make that movie. But first please join me and welcoming today's co 6 00:00:30.719 --> 00:00:34.560 host the Game Mess Mornings. It's Jana Choa. Everybody, Jan how are 7 00:00:34.600 --> 00:00:40.560 you doing? I'm doing great. Finally got the file for the finale of 8 00:00:40.679 --> 00:00:43.240 Game Giant Bombs, Game of the Year, the real game of the Year. 9 00:00:43.320 --> 00:00:48.039 It's now up on the YouTube and podcast feeds everywhere. Please enjoy it. 10 00:00:48.359 --> 00:00:53.200 We worked really hard on it. And I don't know what do YouTubers 11 00:00:53.240 --> 00:00:56.359 actually do. What do good YouTubers do? Do They say, go like 12 00:00:56.399 --> 00:00:59.079 subscribe, comment, thumbs up? Yeah, any think make me say that 13 00:00:59.159 --> 00:01:02.359 it's like best pri They still do that, yeah, best practices and all 14 00:01:02.679 --> 00:01:07.000 hit the notification bell. What's up? Notification gang? Yeah, getting chat 15 00:01:07.159 --> 00:01:10.760 or get in comments, let us know if you were there, get us 16 00:01:10.920 --> 00:01:11.840 get in the chat or get in the comments, and let us know where 17 00:01:11.840 --> 00:01:15.000 you want us to go. Next. If you want us to go to 18 00:01:15.079 --> 00:01:18.719 Boise, Idaho do a live show. This is the only way that'll ever 19 00:01:18.760 --> 00:01:22.680 happen is if it's in the comments on YouTube video Boise. We need y'all 20 00:01:22.719 --> 00:01:25.879 to get noisy right now. Noisy Boise. It's what we say at giant 21 00:01:25.920 --> 00:01:29.000 bomb dot com, Columbus, Ohio. Yeah, we'll go to the Laugh 22 00:01:29.000 --> 00:01:32.000 Factory. We'll do a show there. Everybody, look out it easton right 23 00:01:32.040 --> 00:01:34.920 next to the game Works. We will also have a meet up at the 24 00:01:34.920 --> 00:01:37.439 Game Works because I want to see what that's like these days. Don't you 25 00:01:37.480 --> 00:01:40.920 want me to move my stream to my current kitchen? I'll do that too. 26 00:01:42.840 --> 00:01:44.799 Just tell us in the comments. Basically, you can get us to 27 00:01:44.840 --> 00:01:48.040 do anything you want if you get in there. All right, Jana saw 28 00:01:48.040 --> 00:01:51.400 that you say? You said on Twitter? What should you play next? 29 00:01:51.519 --> 00:01:53.799 What did you finish a game? Are you moving on to something else? 30 00:01:53.879 --> 00:01:55.840 Or you're just like through game of the year. You're like, now I 31 00:01:55.879 --> 00:01:57.840 can play whatever I want. It's through game of the year. Now I 32 00:01:57.879 --> 00:02:01.319 can play whatever I want. I did think, okay, maybe I should 33 00:02:01.359 --> 00:02:06.760 dip into Pandora. Sure, we haven't really done anything with Avatar and the 34 00:02:06.760 --> 00:02:09.759 website just yet. No, we will though. Uh, I don't know. 35 00:02:09.840 --> 00:02:14.759 There's just it's just such a blank canvas now grub you Like, I 36 00:02:15.120 --> 00:02:21.520 feel like I I hammered through, like in the marathon sprint in the lead 37 00:02:21.599 --> 00:02:23.400 up to Game of the Year that I think I checked out everything i'd want 38 00:02:23.439 --> 00:02:28.280 to check out. I could go back to Pickman, you know, you 39 00:02:28.319 --> 00:02:30.719 could always go back to Pickman, and I highly recommend that. But have 40 00:02:30.800 --> 00:02:34.159 you tried sweek a game yet? I have, I've not played that yet, 41 00:02:34.159 --> 00:02:36.879 but that's my next one. I played sweek a game. It's a 42 00:02:36.879 --> 00:02:40.879 fun little puzzle game, but like it's it's not gonna It didn't immediately capture 43 00:02:40.919 --> 00:02:45.879 me like I feel like you did for everyone else. Uh. Someone was 44 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:49.719 talking on the Giant Bomb Discord. Go go go join the discord. It's 45 00:02:49.719 --> 00:02:54.120 a funny hang out with us the Discord. Someone was recommending Paranormal site. 46 00:02:54.800 --> 00:02:59.360 Maybe I'll try. Yeah, that popped off bigger earlier this year, right, 47 00:02:59.439 --> 00:03:01.240 Yeah that was a thing. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, 48 00:03:01.319 --> 00:03:06.479 there's I'm playing Avatar. I want to play through Star Wars. I'm trying 49 00:03:06.479 --> 00:03:08.840 to play that. I like, I'm having such bad luck with like technology. 50 00:03:09.039 --> 00:03:10.960 Yeah, Star Wars like the one. I'm like, oh yeah, 51 00:03:12.080 --> 00:03:15.840 but okay, I'll stream that to my one of my handhelds and it works 52 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:17.599 great for like an hour, and then it starts chugging and there's no like 53 00:03:17.639 --> 00:03:21.039 way to like fix it unless I just shut the game down. It's so 54 00:03:21.159 --> 00:03:24.039 frustrating enough to like fight with the tech. I don't want to go sit 55 00:03:24.080 --> 00:03:27.439 at my computer. I want to kind of just be like kicking back and 56 00:03:27.479 --> 00:03:30.759 playing this game, but I also want to be playing this version of the 57 00:03:30.800 --> 00:03:32.360 game. And yeah, it's just it's just frustrating. When I thought I 58 00:03:32.439 --> 00:03:35.479 am like, okay, I have a solution to play this, and then 59 00:03:35.520 --> 00:03:38.240 yet another way, it found a new way to break on me, and 60 00:03:38.240 --> 00:03:42.719 the universe conspires against me to keep me from playing these games sometimes. So 61 00:03:42.800 --> 00:03:46.639 I'm like, I'm just gonna go finish Super Mario RPG. That's the actual 62 00:03:46.680 --> 00:03:50.280 plan right now. Again. I really love you know. I think I 63 00:03:50.319 --> 00:03:53.159 realize why I put Pickman down and why I haven't picked up Super Mario RPG. 64 00:03:53.360 --> 00:03:58.719 It's because we on the BombCast this week we talked about what if I 65 00:03:58.800 --> 00:04:01.879 just get an O led switch switch, And I think that's why I don't 66 00:04:01.879 --> 00:04:05.719 want to play any switch games until I potentially get an o led switch. 67 00:04:05.840 --> 00:04:10.199 Yeah, I got that old switch can start feeling real old once you start 68 00:04:10.240 --> 00:04:15.199 messing around with the old a little bit. That's how it comes. All 69 00:04:15.280 --> 00:04:16.920 right, let's explain what we do here most weekdays, I, Jeff Greb, 70 00:04:16.959 --> 00:04:20.079 will help piece your gaming life back together. That includes breaking news and 71 00:04:20.120 --> 00:04:24.360 maybe even some of our own original reporting. For all these topics, I'll 72 00:04:24.399 --> 00:04:27.160 get the input of a bona fide expert who will make me look smart. 73 00:04:27.319 --> 00:04:30.600 If you were watching live on twitch, welcome. You can always listen to 74 00:04:30.639 --> 00:04:33.920 the show later on podcast feeds by searching for Game Mess Morning, or find 75 00:04:33.920 --> 00:04:38.680 the RSS on giant bomb dot com. You can also catch the show later 76 00:04:38.720 --> 00:04:43.600 with chapters in timestamps on YouTube. Hello YouTube. All right, we have 77 00:04:43.639 --> 00:04:46.120 a lot to get into, so let's start the Morning Mess with Fans are 78 00:04:46.199 --> 00:04:51.000 speculating about a Spider of Ourse game following the Insomniac leeks. This is from 79 00:04:51.040 --> 00:04:57.439 Ethan gotch Ekotaku. Insomniac Games has quickly becomes Sony's most prodigious first party studio 80 00:04:57.519 --> 00:05:00.959 in the span of just five years. At Really Spider Man, Miles Morales, 81 00:05:00.360 --> 00:05:04.199 Ratching, Clank Rift Apart, and spider Man two now alleged leaks from 82 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:11.040 a ransomware hack potentially to potentially point to a Spider Verse spinoff being in development. 83 00:05:11.399 --> 00:05:15.480 Ransomware operator Recida but recently posted what it claimed were leaked materials, including 84 00:05:15.560 --> 00:05:21.920 internal emails and personal employee information, as proof it had hacked Insomniac. Sony 85 00:05:21.920 --> 00:05:26.079 confirmed the security breach, but said it had no reason to believe the attacks 86 00:05:26.240 --> 00:05:30.279 had impacted any of its other subsidiaries. In the meantime, fans on Reddit 87 00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:32.360 had been looking into some of the leaked documents for clues about what the studio 88 00:05:32.399 --> 00:05:36.519 is working on outside of the currently announced upcoming Wolverine game. So far, 89 00:05:36.560 --> 00:05:42.360 they appeared to have spotted via Insider Gaming potential references to additional Spider Man games, 90 00:05:42.399 --> 00:05:46.639 including a Spider Verse spinoff, as well as obviously Spider Man three that's 91 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:50.319 also in the works. One leaked screenshot mentions planned projects including Miles Morales, 92 00:05:50.519 --> 00:05:56.079 something called RC, spider Man two, Spider Man three, and Spider Dash 93 00:05:56.199 --> 00:06:00.959 and the date twenty twenty five. Another mentions additional support for Spise. It's 94 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:03.600 not proof of anything and plants can always change, but it has players Spidy 95 00:06:03.639 --> 00:06:09.959 senses tangling Jan I think, you know, I played through Spider Man two, 96 00:06:10.879 --> 00:06:13.360 it's very clear they're going to make a Spider Man three. These leagues 97 00:06:13.399 --> 00:06:15.480 seem to confirm that. And you know, it's a bummer whenever these studios 98 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:18.360 get hacked like this, because that's such an aggressive way for these things to 99 00:06:18.399 --> 00:06:23.399 get out there. But the information is out there now. I you know, 100 00:06:23.639 --> 00:06:27.560 there's been rumors, I think even confirmed that Insomniac says it's working on 101 00:06:27.600 --> 00:06:30.480 a multiplayer game as well. Do you think there's a chance that the Spider 102 00:06:30.560 --> 00:06:33.839 Verse game is that multiplayer game? And would that makes sense to you? 103 00:06:33.920 --> 00:06:38.680 Is that's something you want? I don't know if it necessarily makes sense to 104 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:43.120 me. And I think a big selling point and sticking point of why I 105 00:06:43.240 --> 00:06:47.800 like Spider Man two so much, Marvel spider Man two is that it had 106 00:06:47.839 --> 00:06:54.560 its own unique identity when they easily could have just leaned into the popularity of 107 00:06:55.160 --> 00:07:00.480 the Spider Verse movies. You know, we see allusions to that the movie 108 00:07:00.519 --> 00:07:05.360 series in some of the collectibles throughout the game, And I don't know, 109 00:07:05.519 --> 00:07:11.079 is this are they just talking about when Peter Parker showed up in the movie, 110 00:07:11.240 --> 00:07:15.240 perhaps and they just lent his assets or whatever. I don't know if 111 00:07:15.959 --> 00:07:23.040 I want maybe an expand alone, maybe like a Miles Morales style Likeero point 112 00:07:23.079 --> 00:07:28.720 five ish game. I don't think I want a full Spider Verse game. 113 00:07:29.319 --> 00:07:33.360 Yeah, I think it'd be hard to capture what makes the Spider Verse movies 114 00:07:33.600 --> 00:07:36.879 so much fun and so high quality in a game. I think that you'd 115 00:07:36.879 --> 00:07:43.639 be shifting the especially if it's going to be some sort of multiplayer first experience 116 00:07:43.680 --> 00:07:48.319 whatever. That would be a competitive I don't cooperative a Battle Royale, an 117 00:07:48.360 --> 00:07:51.639 extraction shooter with Spider Man. I mean, who knows what that actually ends 118 00:07:51.720 --> 00:07:57.279 up looking like. I get the appeal if you are thinking, Okay, 119 00:07:57.319 --> 00:08:00.319 we really want to make a multiplayer game, because Sony is very big having 120 00:08:00.319 --> 00:08:03.680 live services right now, this could be our Pitch and Spider Verse. You 121 00:08:03.680 --> 00:08:07.120 could have a bunch of Spider Man all all in a one space, and 122 00:08:07.160 --> 00:08:09.319 wouldn't that be fun. We're really good at making those. Let's just make 123 00:08:09.439 --> 00:08:13.319 an environment where a bunch of people can be playing at the same time as 124 00:08:13.319 --> 00:08:16.839 a Spider Man. But beyond that initial like, oh that makes sense, 125 00:08:16.920 --> 00:08:20.120 I actually don't know how much it could work. It seems like it would 126 00:08:20.160 --> 00:08:24.959 require a lot of finagling to get it to a place where it would be 127 00:08:24.439 --> 00:08:31.000 fun consistently and not just some like distraction that Fortnite could copy really quick and 128 00:08:31.079 --> 00:08:33.679 take all, you know, eat your lunch or whatever. So if it's 129 00:08:33.720 --> 00:08:39.200 not Spider Verse that's their multiplayer game, there's a chance that like there this 130 00:08:39.399 --> 00:08:43.559 maybe the RCEE is we're referencing Resistance, is Resistance coming back? Or maybe 131 00:08:43.639 --> 00:08:46.000 Ratchet and Clank, I mean ource, It's hard to tell, but you 132 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:48.360 know, these things seem to there's some smoke here. I don't know, 133 00:08:48.440 --> 00:08:54.240 what do you think? I think Ratchet, Clank and earl Uh. Yeah, 134 00:08:54.320 --> 00:08:58.600 finally they're adding a third character. It's just a guy. It's just 135 00:08:58.639 --> 00:09:01.159 a man. It's just a man is following him around on a scooter. 136 00:09:05.080 --> 00:09:07.799 You know, I would love to see more Resistance because I think it'd be 137 00:09:07.879 --> 00:09:13.279 hilarious. I just don't think there's any name recognition or any type of nostalgia 138 00:09:13.320 --> 00:09:18.679 for Resistance popping off. Unfortunately, not for me. Not for me either, 139 00:09:18.679 --> 00:09:22.039 but like there's definitely fans out there. They'll be like, no Resistance, 140 00:09:22.039 --> 00:09:24.399 they should bring that back, But I don't resisting. Yes, they 141 00:09:24.399 --> 00:09:31.039 should accept this games up there, guys, you know when you were talking, 142 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:35.200 when you were just talking then about dropping a bunch of Spider Man onto 143 00:09:35.240 --> 00:09:39.879 an island. I mean, there's that sequence in across the Spider Verse where 144 00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:43.679 Miles is being chased. That could be fun to work into the video game. 145 00:09:45.240 --> 00:09:48.559 But then, like you know that, how old does that get after 146 00:09:48.799 --> 00:09:54.120 like the first two or three times playing it as the chaser and then the 147 00:09:54.240 --> 00:09:58.120 chase? Right? I mean, because you think about it, if it's 148 00:09:58.120 --> 00:10:01.360 like you're going ran, it's like, are you going to be the chase? 149 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:03.919 One out of one hundred times you get to be the chase? Ce 150 00:10:03.000 --> 00:10:05.600 I mean, clearly they wouldn't do it that way, but but yeah, 151 00:10:05.639 --> 00:10:11.360 it would be it'd be hard to build an entire experience around just that. 152 00:10:11.440 --> 00:10:13.519 They would probably have to have a bunch of different modes and some won't be 153 00:10:13.519 --> 00:10:16.480 as good as others. Uh. You know, it's a challenge that this 154 00:10:16.519 --> 00:10:18.759 has been something It's very good at making games. So I'm sure they could 155 00:10:18.759 --> 00:10:24.639 figure it out. But just like the natural fit here, there is some 156 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:28.120 you know, the shine there where it's like, yeah, yeah, put 157 00:10:28.159 --> 00:10:31.480 Spider Man making a multiplayer thing. Spider Versus very popular again. Beyond that, 158 00:10:31.559 --> 00:10:33.919 I don't know if it's like just oh, this is the easiest thing 159 00:10:33.919 --> 00:10:39.080 in the world to turn into some success. I that you know, that's 160 00:10:39.399 --> 00:10:43.559 if they want to make a let's say, a four player cooperative Spider Verse 161 00:10:43.600 --> 00:10:48.799 game that is like the equivalent of Miles Morales, Like that's the point five 162 00:10:48.840 --> 00:10:52.320 where it's like an it's an expand alone, but you are going through a 163 00:10:52.360 --> 00:10:56.720 smaller campaign or maybe even like a rogue light sort of thing with with the 164 00:10:58.120 --> 00:11:01.080 Spider Verse characters that could be coo. Well, there are ways to pull 165 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:03.840 that off. But if it's you know, I don't even know how dung 166 00:11:03.919 --> 00:11:07.320 that couldlast is a live service game, but I think it's like set their 167 00:11:07.360 --> 00:11:09.159 sights lower, then oh, this needs to be something that runs for five, 168 00:11:09.320 --> 00:11:11.679 six, seven, ten years, and it could be like, oh 169 00:11:11.679 --> 00:11:16.279 no, this was a fun thing, sort of like the Ghost of Sushima 170 00:11:16.399 --> 00:11:18.360 multiplayer mode they added later, where it's like okay, yeah, it's okay, 171 00:11:18.519 --> 00:11:20.440 like it's just just the whole thing. I think that could be cool. 172 00:11:20.480 --> 00:11:22.440 I don't know, what do you think? Yeah, that could be 173 00:11:22.480 --> 00:11:28.159 interesting. Maybe this could serve as a bridge before the third movie. Also, 174 00:11:28.879 --> 00:11:33.440 like that second movie ends in such a way where there is a squad 175 00:11:33.480 --> 00:11:39.279 of Spider people that could be preparing to do something right, and there's a 176 00:11:39.320 --> 00:11:46.159 noticeable lack of Spider Gwen, despite Spider Gwen being like a massively popular character. 177 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:48.960 Right, she could be like the star like she could be like the 178 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:52.279 cover character for a Spider Verse game. Yeah, and then that would do 179 00:11:52.399 --> 00:11:58.320 gangbusteries, even if it's not like a proper I'm trying to think of what 180 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:05.519 a proper Okay, greb hear me out. What if it's for Spider people. 181 00:12:05.639 --> 00:12:09.480 You get Gwen Gwen, Stacy Spider Gwen, and then all these giant 182 00:12:09.519 --> 00:12:15.679 tentacles with purple spots pop up, and then you all of them have guns, 183 00:12:15.840 --> 00:12:18.480 okay, okay, and then you get different skews of the guns. 184 00:12:18.519 --> 00:12:24.159 All right. Then there's like a helicopter you gotta fight, and the helicopter 185 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:26.679 is a giant purple spot. Okay, I am in. As long as 186 00:12:26.720 --> 00:12:31.919 Spider Man also gets to shoot and kill Superman, then yeah, all right, 187 00:12:31.080 --> 00:12:33.879 that's how we're doing it. We're bridging the gap. It's the future 188 00:12:33.879 --> 00:12:39.240 of video gaming. Everybody here on Game Mess Mornings at the check I don't 189 00:12:39.240 --> 00:12:41.320 know who I should ask to cut the check though. Yeah, there's a 190 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:46.720 lot a lot of potential interested parties for that one. Jan Yeah, I 191 00:12:46.919 --> 00:12:52.600 uh, listen. Insomniac is my favorite Sony studio right now. If anything, 192 00:12:52.679 --> 00:12:56.200 I trust Insomniac, right, you know, if this is what they 193 00:12:56.200 --> 00:13:01.200 want to do, go for it. Whatever they choose to do. I'm 194 00:13:01.200 --> 00:13:05.759 probably gonna be skeptical at first, but I fully trust them to pull off 195 00:13:05.799 --> 00:13:11.200 whatever. Yep. Absolutely, I'd actually be disappointed if it was a ratchet 196 00:13:11.200 --> 00:13:15.519 and clank game. And that hurts me to say, Yeah, I really 197 00:13:15.559 --> 00:13:18.759 like Rift Apart. I don't know if I need another Ratchet Clank this generation 198 00:13:18.919 --> 00:13:20.799 though. I say that, but I'm sure what I play. I'm like, 199 00:13:20.799 --> 00:13:24.039 oh no, this this is great. If they feel like they have 200 00:13:24.080 --> 00:13:28.320 a ton of new ideas for some ratchet and clank thing for this this other 201 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:33.440 RCE project, that's what that is. I want to see it because I 202 00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:37.720 like they did such a good job with Rift Apart, and I think they 203 00:13:37.799 --> 00:13:39.879 could dould on that. But if it's like, oh, we're just doing 204 00:13:39.879 --> 00:13:41.799 another ratchet Clank because that's what we do, I don't necessarily think they should 205 00:13:41.799 --> 00:13:45.919 try to force one out this generation. They already have their really good one. 206 00:13:46.279 --> 00:13:50.480 Just let that go and in a couple more years. Revisit Ratchen Clank. 207 00:13:50.519 --> 00:13:54.080 At that point, they got to pick their spots, and you know, 208 00:13:54.159 --> 00:13:56.279 Ratchet Clank didn't even sell that well, so it is more disappointing. 209 00:13:56.399 --> 00:14:00.200 Yeah, I mean it did okay, it did okay, but not not 210 00:14:00.279 --> 00:14:03.120 that great, all right. Marvel's Spider Man two, let's stick with the 211 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:07.120 spider news. New game Plus and other features have been delayed to twenty twenty 212 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:11.200 four. This is from Georgiang at GameSpot and Samniac Games has announced that it 213 00:14:11.240 --> 00:14:15.759 will be delaying upcoming features for Marvel's Spider Man two, such as new game 214 00:14:15.759 --> 00:14:20.159 Plus and audio descriptions, to twenty twenty four. We've been working vigilantly on 215 00:14:20.200 --> 00:14:22.799 these new features and require more testing to ensure that the quality is up to 216 00:14:22.840 --> 00:14:28.320 our standards, Insomniac said in a statement. We are now targeting early twenty 217 00:14:28.360 --> 00:14:31.720 twenty four for the next game update, and we'll have a feature complete list 218 00:14:31.759 --> 00:14:35.000 closer to its release. We've heard your feedback and we will be adding some 219 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:39.200 highly requested features, including the ability to change the time of day, swap 220 00:14:39.399 --> 00:14:43.919 tendril colors, and replay missions, just to name a few. Marvel's Spider 221 00:14:43.960 --> 00:14:46.200 Man two was released in October for PS five and sold over two point five 222 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:52.320 million copies in its first twenty four hours. Yeah, I think that they're 223 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:54.080 at a point where, yeah, just take your time on this stuff. 224 00:14:54.120 --> 00:14:58.399 I get a little bit disappointed when New Game Plus specifically isn't right there right 225 00:14:58.399 --> 00:15:01.759 away in a game, because it's like, my chances of returning to that 226 00:15:01.840 --> 00:15:07.080 later diminish greatly every passing minute, let alone every passing day or week. 227 00:15:07.919 --> 00:15:11.559 But it's always better that these things come later than not at all. Right, 228 00:15:11.480 --> 00:15:16.200 Yeah, And also get incentivizes players to circle back to a game, 229 00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:18.919 right, it can breathe a little bit of new life, especially if it's 230 00:15:18.919 --> 00:15:24.600 a substantial one, Like not that Alan Wake two needed any more life support. 231 00:15:24.720 --> 00:15:30.159 But now I'm even more incentivized to like stay in that universe, right, 232 00:15:30.200 --> 00:15:35.240 didn't mind going back to Marvel Spider Man two it all if the New 233 00:15:35.240 --> 00:15:39.480 Game Plus is substantial enough. Also, the holiday season is coming, a 234 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:41.960 lot of people are going to be picking up Spider Man right too as gifts 235 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:46.279 for the holidays, And maybe they won't be like us and burns through the 236 00:15:46.279 --> 00:15:54.200 game immediately. But I could see a New Game Plus that's pushed out to 237 00:15:54.240 --> 00:16:00.200 twenty twenty four picked up a lot by by that holiday audio and yeah, 238 00:16:00.399 --> 00:16:04.759 Mike, trying to see, uh, what color tendrils could you have in 239 00:16:04.799 --> 00:16:07.679 this game? Right now? I think it was just black and then white 240 00:16:07.679 --> 00:16:11.120 eventually, right, black and white? Yeah? Yeah, okay, Well, 241 00:16:11.200 --> 00:16:15.200 hey, I get people maybeing a little bit scared of white tendrils wanting 242 00:16:15.279 --> 00:16:18.159 to switch off of that. Sure, what color tendril? If you could 243 00:16:18.159 --> 00:16:22.159 have any color tendrils? Jan And I know you have been thinking about this 244 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:26.120 every day in your life. What color tendrils would you have? Grub? 245 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:30.000 I think we just spoke the game I was joking about into existence if we 246 00:16:30.039 --> 00:16:34.000 can change tendril colors, because uh, what if you make purple tendrils? 247 00:16:37.360 --> 00:16:38.840 Yeah, but if you make purple color purple, yes, that's what I 248 00:16:38.879 --> 00:16:42.519 want. Yeah, yeah, yeah, purple tendrils with something like a big 249 00:16:42.559 --> 00:16:48.000 glowy spots. Huh what he becomes the monster? Yeah? And then just 250 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:51.679 someone comes out of nowhere and starts shooting at him, and it's an Australian 251 00:16:51.679 --> 00:16:55.519 with the boomerang. For some reason, h suicide Squad's coming out. Man. 252 00:16:56.000 --> 00:16:57.519 We have to we have to recognize that that is going to happen next 253 00:16:57.600 --> 00:17:03.440 year I watched the first one the other day for whatever reason. Uh yeah, 254 00:17:03.480 --> 00:17:08.839 that's a movie, I mean, yeah, barely. Yeah, man, 255 00:17:10.079 --> 00:17:14.839 I that there's a really good video about the editing of that movie from 256 00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:18.240 Dan Olsen on Twitter or on YouTube that I watch all the time. That 257 00:17:18.279 --> 00:17:21.640 one's worth checking out. The part that really got me is like when it 258 00:17:22.279 --> 00:17:26.640 drew attention to that opening shot of like the helicopter going over the trees, 259 00:17:26.920 --> 00:17:30.119 and then there's this really interesting building on the horizon and that's where your eyes 260 00:17:30.160 --> 00:17:33.160 are looking, and then words pop up and they're dark words over these dark 261 00:17:33.200 --> 00:17:37.400 trees in the bottom right corner, and you go to like look at it, 262 00:17:37.440 --> 00:17:41.279 and it's such a visual mess that I'm like, who made this movie? 263 00:17:41.279 --> 00:17:44.279 How did this happen? Yeah? And the whole movies like that. 264 00:17:44.480 --> 00:17:48.400 So, Okay, let's take a quick break. When we get back, 265 00:17:48.400 --> 00:17:51.319 we got a lot more news to talk about, including the Switch becoming one 266 00:17:51.359 --> 00:17:53.400 of the best selling consoles ever in the history of the United States and more. 267 00:17:53.440 --> 00:18:04.319 We'll get to that right after this and we're back. I got more 268 00:18:04.319 --> 00:18:07.799 news for you, jan The Switch is top of the Xbox three sixty to 269 00:18:07.799 --> 00:18:11.119 become the number three best selling console ever in the United States. This comes 270 00:18:11.160 --> 00:18:15.000 from Eddie mcoo at Game Spot. The Nintendo Switch continues to soar, and 271 00:18:15.039 --> 00:18:19.519 now it's reached a huge new sales milestone. The hybrid console has surpassed the 272 00:18:19.559 --> 00:18:23.519 lifetime sales of the Xbox three sixty in the United States. The milestone came 273 00:18:23.519 --> 00:18:27.880 in November. Sir Kana analyst Matt Piscatela said the PS two in the Nintendo 274 00:18:27.920 --> 00:18:32.519 DS are the top two best selling systems ever in that order, meaning the 275 00:18:32.559 --> 00:18:36.079 Switch is now number three all time in the United States. The MPD does 276 00:18:36.119 --> 00:18:40.559 not disclose specific sales numbers, however, Yeah, basically he just said, 277 00:18:40.640 --> 00:18:42.880 yeah, this is now behind only the DS and the PlayStation two in the 278 00:18:42.960 --> 00:18:47.960 US, surpassing the Xbox three sixty. That's pretty impressive. It's gonna keep 279 00:18:47.960 --> 00:18:49.000 going because it's like, you know, December is going to be a big 280 00:18:49.039 --> 00:18:53.119 month for it. Those are November sales, and they have not talked about 281 00:18:53.119 --> 00:18:56.799 what's next, and they got plenty of games still coming for this thing, 282 00:18:56.920 --> 00:19:00.799 so you know, it's not gonna sell like a in the past, but 283 00:19:00.839 --> 00:19:04.559 it could still sell as several million more units this next year and it has 284 00:19:04.599 --> 00:19:07.599 a chance to probably catch up to the ds. We'll see about the PS 285 00:19:07.640 --> 00:19:11.440 two. PS two might be out of reach. The PS two got to 286 00:19:11.440 --> 00:19:15.000 a point jam where it was like one hundred and twenty dollars and it was 287 00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:18.880 still a DVD player and people still really wanted that, and FIFA games kept 288 00:19:18.880 --> 00:19:22.039 coming out for forever, and there weren't like iPads and other things to put 289 00:19:22.039 --> 00:19:23.960 your money into where you get free games. So it's like, if you 290 00:19:23.960 --> 00:19:26.599 wanted to play video games, you go get the older PS two. So 291 00:19:27.160 --> 00:19:30.079 they were just in a different world. But hey, that's pretty impressive to 292 00:19:30.079 --> 00:19:33.359 be up in that top three in the United States with a switch right, 293 00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:38.559 Absolutely insane, especially considering that people would have to buy multiple three sixties just 294 00:19:38.599 --> 00:19:44.960 in case there's broke gub you maybe look on the lookout for another Xbox three 295 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:47.920 C yeah, go. So we were I was trying to get the game 296 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:49.359 started, so I was going to make sure everything was good to go, 297 00:19:49.680 --> 00:19:53.160 and I'm glad. I checked it like really early yesterday before Blake Club for 298 00:19:53.319 --> 00:19:57.359 Ride to Hell Retribution, and it would not just for out like an hour 299 00:19:57.440 --> 00:20:00.440 almost. It was like, no, can't read the day. I'm like, 300 00:20:00.559 --> 00:20:03.279 I'm just gonna keep trying. And I came back and tried one more 301 00:20:03.279 --> 00:20:06.839 time. And what I did is I like the tray the door, I 302 00:20:06.920 --> 00:20:08.799 kind of like just gave it a little bit of pressure as it was starting 303 00:20:08.880 --> 00:20:11.960 up, and that seemed to make it work. Now, it's like you 304 00:20:11.960 --> 00:20:17.160 know when you like try to finagle the NES cartridge in the original system, 305 00:20:17.599 --> 00:20:18.759 trying to get that to work. It felt like that, but it did 306 00:20:18.799 --> 00:20:22.039 work and then the game just operated. It's it must just be like a 307 00:20:22.160 --> 00:20:26.720 check at the beginning, because once once the game starts running, I never 308 00:20:26.720 --> 00:20:27.519 have any problems. So it's not like, oh, I'm trying to read 309 00:20:27.559 --> 00:20:32.240 information, I can't get it. So I don't know. But the next 310 00:20:32.240 --> 00:20:33.400 time I go to play that game, it's probably not gonna work at all. 311 00:20:33.519 --> 00:20:37.960 So yes, and you, yet another Xbox Xbox three sixty will be 312 00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:41.559 sold because of me. I there's so many switches out in the wild, 313 00:20:41.599 --> 00:20:45.200 grub. I don't know who else, you know what I say that, 314 00:20:45.279 --> 00:20:48.440 I don't know. I was one who else is getting one? But then 315 00:20:48.480 --> 00:20:52.200 I'm about to buy another one? And someone was surprised because like back, 316 00:20:52.480 --> 00:20:55.839 of course, could he's got this power? Just be like that's not important 317 00:20:55.880 --> 00:20:57.559 to me. I'm not even gonna think about it, and then he saw 318 00:20:57.559 --> 00:21:00.119 the o lead in persons like m Now I'm thinking about it, I'm like, 319 00:21:00.160 --> 00:21:03.039 oh, okay, like you like you're susceptible. You're like me jan 320 00:21:03.279 --> 00:21:07.720 like, yeah, we're very susceptible to these things. We're Patsy's exactly. 321 00:21:07.759 --> 00:21:11.920 We are re marks for this stuff. Yeah, but I think, yeah, 322 00:21:11.079 --> 00:21:15.240 yeah, the Switch old actually is much better than even most people realize. 323 00:21:15.279 --> 00:21:19.039 That's green. It's just so good. But once they start talking about 324 00:21:19.039 --> 00:21:23.519 the next device, I do I do imagine things are going to move very 325 00:21:23.599 --> 00:21:26.640 quickly from the Switch to whatever is the follow up. There will not be 326 00:21:26.680 --> 00:21:30.240 a lot of overlap and on that lot of like lingering desire for the Switch 327 00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:34.680 at that point, especially if backwards compatibility is strong. So I think, 328 00:21:34.759 --> 00:21:38.359 yeah, Nintendo taking their time with that makes sense, especially because the Switch 329 00:21:38.359 --> 00:21:42.319 continues to sell really well, especially in Japan once again, where it's selling 330 00:21:42.359 --> 00:21:45.640 better than it did the year before. I think I'm just a little bit 331 00:21:45.799 --> 00:21:52.720 hesitant with Nintendo properly supporting backwards compatibility should be yes, And I feel like 332 00:21:52.880 --> 00:21:57.039 I I've just invested so much time into the Nintendo Switch that I'm not ready 333 00:21:57.039 --> 00:22:03.279 to say goodbye yet. Right, there's every reason to be suspicious of Nintendo's 334 00:22:03.279 --> 00:22:08.200 ability to do proper backward compatibility, because in Vidia hardware that they probably will 335 00:22:08.279 --> 00:22:11.720 end up using won't be just naturally backward compatible, so there will have to 336 00:22:11.720 --> 00:22:15.880 be something that makes it work, whether that is Nintendo doing an extra compatibility 337 00:22:15.960 --> 00:22:21.400 layer within video or asking every single developer to update their game, which would 338 00:22:21.400 --> 00:22:25.839 be a nightmare. It like, there's probably going to be some headaches there. 339 00:22:26.839 --> 00:22:30.119 Hopefully. My hope is like in Vidia just does the work for them 340 00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:33.200 and bakes in a solution right on the hardware level, or not on the 341 00:22:33.200 --> 00:22:37.640 hardware level necessarily, but bakes in a software solution, so like backward compatibility 342 00:22:37.680 --> 00:22:41.039 could be a thing going forward, so that if they decide one day to 343 00:22:41.079 --> 00:22:44.640 like switch to yet another new piece of hardware, they don't lose what they 344 00:22:44.640 --> 00:22:48.279 did here. But we'll see, We're probably going to find out in the 345 00:22:48.279 --> 00:22:51.480 first three, four or five months and next year, like what that thing 346 00:22:51.559 --> 00:22:53.680 is actually going to be. And maybe we won't get answers right away about 347 00:22:53.680 --> 00:22:56.839 that stuff, but I don't think we'ren have to wait too much longer. 348 00:22:56.359 --> 00:23:00.400 I think the PS two number makes up to me in my head. I 349 00:23:00.440 --> 00:23:03.759 feel like saw PS two's everwhere growing up? And then for your reasoning of 350 00:23:03.960 --> 00:23:08.319 doubling as a DVD player for some people, the DS just blows my mind 351 00:23:08.440 --> 00:23:11.200 because I feel like that was just a kid thing when I was in high 352 00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:15.480 school, right, yeah, yeah, it's definitely U I loved my DS, 353 00:23:15.480 --> 00:23:19.720 but it was surprising how successful that was. I imagine a lot of 354 00:23:19.720 --> 00:23:23.400 it was Pokemon, but a lot of like Pokemon powers, you know, 355 00:23:23.440 --> 00:23:26.319 every Nintendo hadheld and like the three DS had a big drop. Now, 356 00:23:26.319 --> 00:23:30.759 the DS again was before the iPad. That's the big thing. Like you 357 00:23:30.759 --> 00:23:33.039 could see the difference between the three DS and and the DS is just at 358 00:23:33.039 --> 00:23:37.920 a certain point, some families decided, we're gonna stop getting these kids DS. 359 00:23:37.000 --> 00:23:40.680 Is where were are in Nintendo devices where we could buy individual games. 360 00:23:40.799 --> 00:23:44.279 Let's just get the an iPad and let them download a five dollars game or 361 00:23:44.519 --> 00:23:49.000 eventually free to play games. So but yeah, the DS was just a 362 00:23:49.119 --> 00:23:52.279 monster. It just sold so much better, and it sold to like that 363 00:23:52.279 --> 00:23:56.960 we audience, that older audience. The DS Touch generation or whatever it was 364 00:23:56.000 --> 00:24:00.960 called with the brain games were really popular. It was It's just on every 365 00:24:02.039 --> 00:24:06.559 front it was selling. It was really weird, all right, next story. 366 00:24:06.960 --> 00:24:10.559 Hideo Kojum, Excuse Me, and A twenty four are teaming up to 367 00:24:10.559 --> 00:24:14.960 create a death Stranding film universe. This is from Darren Bontius at GameSpot. 368 00:24:15.359 --> 00:24:18.440 Film and television company A twenty four has announced that it'll be working with Kojuma 369 00:24:18.519 --> 00:24:23.200 Productions to produce a live action adaptation of Death Stranding. The news was announced 370 00:24:23.200 --> 00:24:27.400 through A twenty four store and Twitter account as the company debuted a new black 371 00:24:27.440 --> 00:24:32.599 T shirt that features its logo rendered with the Death Stranding elements. It's official 372 00:24:32.640 --> 00:24:36.559 We've partnered with Kochuma Productions on the live action feature film added to adaptation of 373 00:24:36.640 --> 00:24:41.839 Hideo Kojima's Excuse Me acclaimed video game Death Stranding, reads the description for the 374 00:24:41.839 --> 00:24:45.359 T shirt. A death Stranding film was first announced to be in development back 375 00:24:45.400 --> 00:24:48.240 in twenty twenty two, but at the time further details on it remained in 376 00:24:48.359 --> 00:24:52.119 secret. A twenty four was born into the world about ten years ago and 377 00:24:52.160 --> 00:24:56.200 their presence is singular within the industry. They are like no other, Kojuma 378 00:24:56.240 --> 00:25:00.759 wrote in a blog post detailing the decision to partner with the end film studio. 379 00:25:00.759 --> 00:25:04.680 They're in dang it sorry. Their innovative approach to storytelling aligns with what 380 00:25:04.920 --> 00:25:08.200 Coach of Productions has been doing for the last eight years. Now we are 381 00:25:08.200 --> 00:25:12.640 making Death Stranding movie together. There are a lot of game adaptation films out 382 00:25:12.640 --> 00:25:15.359 there, but what we are creating is not just a direct translation of the 383 00:25:15.359 --> 00:25:18.799 game. The intention is that our audience will not only be fans of the 384 00:25:18.839 --> 00:25:22.920 games, but our film will be for anyone who loves cinema, which is 385 00:25:23.000 --> 00:25:29.319 coajum. Of course. Of course this feels kind of like a good fit. 386 00:25:29.400 --> 00:25:33.119 I don't know, what do you think? I am an a twenty 387 00:25:33.119 --> 00:25:41.480 four slut? Yes, and uh, I just I have no I have 388 00:25:41.559 --> 00:25:45.720 no interest in watching this at all. And I don't even mind Death Stranding. 389 00:25:47.319 --> 00:25:52.000 You know. I revisited it once they did the director's cut and liked 390 00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:57.559 it well enough. I don't No one needs this. Yeah, no one 391 00:25:57.599 --> 00:26:02.039 needs this, I oh say, even the people that really like Death Stranding. 392 00:26:02.519 --> 00:26:07.440 No one's like the story is great, it is maybe fun. It's 393 00:26:07.599 --> 00:26:14.599 definitely indulgent, right, I think a little bit like especially Yeah, as 394 00:26:14.599 --> 00:26:18.000 you get near the end, that's a lot of coaching. Yeah, definitely, 395 00:26:18.119 --> 00:26:22.440 it definitely is. Yes, But I do at a certain point, 396 00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:26.480 I'm like, I'm glad coaching was gonna be able to get this out of 397 00:26:26.480 --> 00:26:30.079 his system. He's always wanted to make a movie. Let him do this, 398 00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:33.160 And another part of me is like, this is good for anyone who 399 00:26:33.160 --> 00:26:37.000 wants to get that Metal Gear movie, because I think Konami will be like, 400 00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:38.799 well, we can't. Let we got to get that out before he 401 00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:42.200 gets out that death stranding movie, and they might push each other to actually 402 00:26:42.240 --> 00:26:45.759 get these things out the door. Yeah, I don't know. I also 403 00:26:45.759 --> 00:26:48.519 think A twenty four is kind of getting a little bit in their big budget 404 00:26:48.559 --> 00:26:52.359 era. Yeah, and like, did you see the Civil War trailer? 405 00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:56.000 Yeah? I did. It's like it it looks like a big budget movie. 406 00:26:56.079 --> 00:26:57.480 What do you think about that? I'm like, again, like a 407 00:26:57.519 --> 00:27:00.880 forty year old white guy in the suburb, So I'm like, yep, 408 00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:03.759 this is this looks like the kind of thing for me. And everyone's like 409 00:27:03.759 --> 00:27:07.480 that, why why are you making porn about the war America tearing itself apart? 410 00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:11.440 Like yeah, I kind of want that kind of porn personally, But 411 00:27:11.480 --> 00:27:12.880 I don't know. What do you figure? Yes, exactly, I thought 412 00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:21.279 it was completely fine. The problem with movies in the ilk of social commentary 413 00:27:21.319 --> 00:27:27.680 movies framed his big blockbuster movies like Civil War is that people will five thousand 414 00:27:27.759 --> 00:27:33.759 percent get the wrong message from it. Yes, you're right, we do 415 00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:38.599 need to seceed from the States. Huh, JESSI Plemmon's guy's onto something. 416 00:27:40.759 --> 00:27:45.480 I do love, Jess, give me the PLMS absolutely. Like I know 417 00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:48.400 a lot of people poke fun at the PLMS, but like, let me 418 00:27:48.440 --> 00:27:51.640 tell you, I think the Plums maybe one of my favorite actors, and 419 00:27:51.680 --> 00:27:56.240 every time I see him I get excited. Love. I'm starting with Friday 420 00:27:56.279 --> 00:27:57.839 Night Lights. That's where I first saw him, and then everything afterwards. 421 00:27:57.839 --> 00:28:02.799 I'm like, yeah, this is my dude. Yeah. So I mean, 422 00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:06.519 I think if A twenty four wants to start doing like bigger stuff, 423 00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:10.599 Koach matches up pretty well with that. I think desk stranding can work with 424 00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:15.440 that. Visually, It's got the right amount of Hey, we could do 425 00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:18.039 this. We can go to Iceland and film most of this, and then 426 00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:23.119 we can use what CGI budget we have very spearingly to have big popping scenes 427 00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:30.440 and no grub. I don't want CGI. I want practical effects that someone's 428 00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:34.240 back is overloaded with so many boxes, and I want them to Benny Hill 429 00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:37.599 fall down a hill. You know what you're right, they actually should do 430 00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:41.279 like that. You're really You're right there, They should actually figure out how 431 00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:45.279 to wait to do that, even like it doesn't have to be like the 432 00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:48.759 full weight, but like make it kind of heavy. I want to see 433 00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:52.359 someone actually struggling moving around in a world a dumb ass backpack that would rule. 434 00:28:53.599 --> 00:28:56.200 I don't know, I like deaths stranding. I think this could be 435 00:28:56.200 --> 00:29:02.039 cool. I think the problem that I have circulating in my head is that 436 00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:08.839 one Kojima is a very busy dude that appears to be making another game and 437 00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:14.000 then another game, and then befriending every celebrity he can. Yes, but 438 00:29:14.079 --> 00:29:18.480 on top of that, I feel like Kojima, I have this, I 439 00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:22.359 have this very same issue, needs to be involved in every single thing that 440 00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:29.839 the movie's going to take. Five ever, yeah, yeah, because if 441 00:29:29.880 --> 00:29:36.200 he is a dude that edits his own trailers at his games, he would 442 00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:40.119 want to be in that editing bay for forever. I do think you're right 443 00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:44.839 that in the editing it could get prolonged for sure, and then maybe that 444 00:29:44.839 --> 00:29:48.480 that leads to reshoots. But I want to give him a little bit of 445 00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:52.480 the benefit of the doubt. After what happened with des Strandy because I remember 446 00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:55.880 when he had that deal with Sony and I was like, and I think 447 00:29:55.880 --> 00:29:57.160 everyone else, but I'll say I'll speak for myself. I was like, 448 00:29:57.240 --> 00:30:00.200 oh, yeah, have fun with that. We'll see that game in ten 449 00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:03.240 years. And then he put it out in like three or four. It 450 00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:07.799 was really quick actually, and so him being able to do that with a 451 00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:11.480 game that is like even maybe more complicated than make it a film, I'll 452 00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:14.440 be like, Okay, I think if he could do that with his game, 453 00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:17.559 he can maybe follow through that with his film. But this is his 454 00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:22.480 first time getting involved in a real filmmaking process, so maybe he has to 455 00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:26.039 maybe there's a learning process, and then maybe that actually turns into him taking 456 00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:27.960 some extra time. So I wouldn't be surprised if you're right in this. 457 00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:32.279 The movie actually takes several years, and it's a video game movie at the 458 00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:34.640 end of the day, and those get like canceled and canned all the time, 459 00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:38.160 and about ten percent ever actually see the light of day. So we're 460 00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:41.480 talking about all this and it might never matter, right, Yeah, I 461 00:30:41.559 --> 00:30:45.319 want to folks at home listening at home, I want you to tell us 462 00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:48.559 who you think should direct it, because they're not going to let Kojima direct 463 00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:52.680 it, right, He's gonna be like executive producer and just be there every 464 00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:56.640 single day of every single shoot. But he'll be like Lucas in the background 465 00:30:56.640 --> 00:31:00.559 of Empire Strikes Back. Yeah, yeah, uh, I wanna. I 466 00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:04.880 want to see who folks think should direct it? Oh GDT? Yeah? 467 00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:10.079 I mean like right, because del Toro's in it. They also have Nicholas 468 00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:14.200 when reading when run reference, I can never say his last name anyhow, 469 00:31:14.200 --> 00:31:15.599 and now I can't remember it also, so I'll just sneeze through it. 470 00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:25.079 Nicholas. Oh man, if it's GDT, I love that man. That 471 00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:27.960 would I think that'd be a pretty cool thing to see Gammelo del Toro get 472 00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:33.880 to do like a big budget sci fi movie that definitely has the kind of 473 00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:37.440 horror undertones that he's really good at. So that's a good fit. There's 474 00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:41.759 already the relationship there, and they just get the cast from the game, 475 00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:47.519 right. It would be absurd if they recasted those characters, right, he 476 00:31:47.640 --> 00:31:49.519 would, like I Folks are joking around like, oh, who's going to 477 00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:55.000 be Sarah Bridges? It has to be fucking Norman Redis. Yeah, it 478 00:31:55.039 --> 00:31:57.880 would It would be very strange. If it wasn't, I think. I 479 00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:01.119 don't know, but okay, yes, it would also be hilarious if they 480 00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:07.519 recast the characters. All right, Hey, there's a rumor Sega will reboots 481 00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:10.519 Altered Beast, Eternal Champions and Kid Camellion. This is from Jonas Mackie at 482 00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:15.279 Game Reactor. During the Game Awards last week, Sega had a pretty impressive 483 00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:20.680 lineup of announcements as they confirmed that no less than five frequently requested classics were 484 00:32:20.680 --> 00:32:23.640 going to get new installations at some point in the future. Just one day 485 00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:27.599 later, they also revealed that this is only the beginning, and that their 486 00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:31.000 intention is to bring back even more classic games. Fast forward to today and 487 00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:36.880 Gamatsu has now noticed that Sega has trademarked more older games, including Altered Beast, 488 00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:40.599 Eternal Champions, and Kid Cameleon. All of these three are Sega classics 489 00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:44.680 from before, and while it's definitely not a confirmation of any kind, it 490 00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:47.680 could give us indication of other retro titles that the vast from the vast Sega 491 00:32:47.680 --> 00:32:52.240 library that will be brought back to life. Another thing pointing in that direction 492 00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:54.119 is the fact that there was a rumor doing the rounds earlier last summer, 493 00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:59.079 claiming that Sega was working on a new Altered Beast, which is kind of 494 00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:02.240 where I'm at with and why include the stories? I remember that and pairing 495 00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:07.359 it up with these trademarks, and then pairing that up with the clear initiative 496 00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:09.960 of them bringing back these older games, that seems like they're probably doing these 497 00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:14.559 for real. What do you think? Yeah? I think so. They 498 00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:19.640 had that strong showing during the Game Awards showing off a Crazy Taxi, a 499 00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:24.480 Shanobi, other titles on free, a Golden Axe. I think there's an 500 00:33:24.519 --> 00:33:30.839 appetite for more old Sega and just letting Sega cook. Yes, here's my 501 00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:35.759 question, Greb, where the fuck is vector Man? They are not talking 502 00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:38.039 about vector Man. That has not been included in any of the rumors, 503 00:33:38.079 --> 00:33:44.240 any of these trademarks, And I think vector Man deserves to come back. 504 00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:47.079 Why not? You know what? What's did they make Gunstar Heroes? I 505 00:33:47.079 --> 00:33:52.119 can never remember? I want to say, yeah, I think I yes, 506 00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:55.079 Sega published it, Treasure developed it. That means yes, if they 507 00:33:55.240 --> 00:33:59.079 man bring back Gunstar Heroes, make that like, oh my god, that 508 00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:04.359 a rogue. Maybe make it a oh yeah, do that? Yeah ship 509 00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:07.799 that would rule. Okay, yeah, there's like so many cool PEPSI man, 510 00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:08.960 of course, thank you Blue, and that we wasn't that PlayStation? 511 00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:15.440 Was that Sega and PlayStation? I have no idea, no, yeah, 512 00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:20.119 but but yes, there's lots of stuff that they could still bring. Do 513 00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:24.159 you think that we actually get to this point where we are getting the ones 514 00:34:24.159 --> 00:34:30.280 that we're mentioning that aren't being rumored right now because they see enough success from 515 00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:36.119 these games as they've announced them so far. I think I want to say 516 00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:42.280 yes. I feel like Sega is gonna wait and see after this initial crop 517 00:34:42.440 --> 00:34:47.960 releases and how well they do. I hope that. I hope that Sega 518 00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:53.639 has a strategy here with everything, because you know, Mike went ape shit 519 00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:59.960 when Schnowby got announced, So I hope that they do. And we even 520 00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:02.440 hearing about super games for like the past year, so I hope that they 521 00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:08.079 stick through with all of these initiatives. I hope that they're successful, that 522 00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:14.519 we can circle back to the actual games that matter and not the Shanobi crazy 523 00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:20.039 Taxi Kid Chameleon bullshit and go to vector Man, Go right to vector Man. 524 00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:23.800 People in chat also mentioned virtual on Burning Rangers, Burning you know the 525 00:35:24.079 --> 00:35:27.559 ones that actually should get Like, Okay, I'm glad they're doing a lot 526 00:35:27.599 --> 00:35:31.639 of Genesis stuff that is cool, but crazy taxis like Dreamcast. Let's like 527 00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:37.840 represent some Saturn stuff. Let's get Burning Rangers, Let's get pants Dragon Saga. 528 00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:42.960 Just do a Panther Dragon Saga to bring back Panther Dragon Saga in some 529 00:35:43.119 --> 00:35:46.400 way and then make a second one. The Sega could have a big RPG 530 00:35:46.920 --> 00:35:52.079 series like that and that would rule and Panthers Dragon Saga is very fun. 531 00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:54.920 Powerstone, yes, thank you Marino. Oh my god, yeah, Powerstone 532 00:35:57.199 --> 00:36:00.760 overall, though, I think the strategy could ken wore and I hope it 533 00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:05.400 does. And and just seeing the like the various takes that they're that they're 534 00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:07.079 performing on these games. So if it's like, oh, yes, you 535 00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:08.719 know, he's gonna be two D, golden Ax is gonna be a little 536 00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:13.079 bit like Isometric three D a little bit, it's like, yeah, that's 537 00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:15.519 the right amount of money to put in something like Golden Ax where it feels 538 00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:20.199 like a new game, kind of like a big game, but mostly it 539 00:36:20.199 --> 00:36:22.400 looks like it's gonna play like a Golden Ax, maybe has deeper game blame, 540 00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:25.920 gameplay mechanics and I would welcome all that, uh, but yeah, 541 00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:30.079 I love all these franchise for the most part, I have fond memories of 542 00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:34.719 them. So Ziga investing in its own history feels like a good idea. 543 00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:37.559 I think maybe the only thing missing from this is like, Okay, so 544 00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:43.519 you're going big on all these classic names that we recognize, maybe you should 545 00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:47.639 also be looking to like over to uh digital Extremes, Digital No, Digital 546 00:36:47.639 --> 00:36:52.199 Ocean, other Ocean, Uh, Mike MICA's company, Drew Scanlon, get 547 00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:54.800 them in there, have Chris Kohler come in, go through your history and 548 00:36:54.880 --> 00:37:00.920 pair up these awesome like digital digital museums with some of these so that we 549 00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:05.000 can like remember the history while we're also getting these new experiences. Like Sega 550 00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:08.039 is so ripe for the picking with that stuff. They're the big company that 551 00:37:08.079 --> 00:37:12.320 would be more open to that, I think than someone like Nintendo, and 552 00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:15.400 they have the history that can support that in a big way where it's like, 553 00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:20.320 you know, they're the making of Karataka. I think that's amazing. 554 00:37:20.599 --> 00:37:22.800 But like I talked to Mike about it, Mike said, I had not 555 00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:24.840 heard of Karatka until this year. It's like, yeah, I mean, 556 00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:28.800 you're not alone there. I think a lot of people haven't heard about it. 557 00:37:28.840 --> 00:37:31.880 Sega games people have heard of, and I think if Sega doesn't work 558 00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:37.079 with you know, Drew Scandlin and all them over there, they should at 559 00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:39.480 least try to do it themselves. I want to have like the history be 560 00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:43.840 brought up alongside these games coming back. I think that would be the best 561 00:37:43.840 --> 00:37:45.920 of both worlds. Oh yeah, one hundred percent. And this is a 562 00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:52.480 selfish desire because I feel like, just like Jet Set, Jet Grind, 563 00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:57.519 Radio, Jet Said Future, where those were games that I was always curious 564 00:37:57.559 --> 00:38:00.519 about checking out when I was growing up. I think another game that I 565 00:38:00.519 --> 00:38:05.159 think I would love to check out if it was easy to do, and 566 00:38:05.199 --> 00:38:07.559 I think it might actually be. So I'm speaking out of my ass, 567 00:38:08.679 --> 00:38:14.480 Fantasy Star Online for like a console, just like a streamline experience. Give 568 00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:19.559 me that, like a four person thing, just like that. Yeah that, 569 00:38:19.559 --> 00:38:22.719 I think that's like the they could get to the end of this super 570 00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:27.159 game initiative and sort of that can be the culmination of getting back to Fantasy 571 00:38:27.199 --> 00:38:31.800 Star Online like the original game, and you know, reimagining that for a 572 00:38:31.840 --> 00:38:36.320 new generation. It doesn't have to try to be as big as Destiny still 573 00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:39.480 mostly be fantasy Star Online. But that would be very like make it Monster 574 00:38:39.559 --> 00:38:45.079 Hunter adjacent right where I know a lot of people play Monster Hunter multiplayer. 575 00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:47.280 That's something you're right, Yeah, so so go for that. Yeah, 576 00:38:47.320 --> 00:38:52.679 and again like Pants Dragon Saga, but also fantasy Star make just a straight 577 00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:57.440 up Fantasy Star big rpg. H you know, just go look over yeah, 578 00:38:57.480 --> 00:38:59.079 go look over it at Let's be like, oh, yeah, we 579 00:38:59.119 --> 00:39:00.920 can do that for our games. Two, we're allowed to do that. 580 00:39:01.320 --> 00:39:04.960 They should be allowed to do that. We got to get rid of the 581 00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:07.719 laws that are preventing them from doing this. Yeah, that would be cool. 582 00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:10.639 Fantasy Star four, I know a lot of has a lot of fans. 583 00:39:10.920 --> 00:39:15.280 I think you just look at that game and extrapolate from there to a 584 00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:20.840 modern game at this point. All right. Altered Beasts though, that's one 585 00:39:21.079 --> 00:39:24.920 where it's like, eh, sure there was like a newer Altered Beast for 586 00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:29.480 like PS two, Right Am I making that up? No? You're not, 587 00:39:29.719 --> 00:39:31.000 you're not. And it's just like there was a newer vector Man for 588 00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:34.920 the PS two as well, was there? Really? Yeah? There was 589 00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:38.280 like a three D third person shooter. Okay, all right, then, 590 00:39:39.079 --> 00:39:42.760 all right, let's get to the next story. Fallout fours, PS five 591 00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:45.280 and Xbox Series versions have been delayed to twenty twenty four. This is from 592 00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:51.480 Eric hittlback through at Game Reactor fourteen months ago. But the announced Fallout four 593 00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:54.199 was coming to PlayStation five in Xbox Series in twenty twenty three, and that 594 00:39:54.320 --> 00:39:58.079 it would be a free upgrade for those who already owned the game on last 595 00:39:58.119 --> 00:40:01.360 gen consoles. This made people quite excited but started to get but people started 596 00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:06.400 suspected delay was coming when we had not heard anything else through the summer. 597 00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:09.320 The fact that Bethessa said no comment when asked for an official update about the 598 00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:13.679 release date just left And this is Eric saying, this left me waiting for 599 00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:16.960 this extremely last minute announcement. But as the confirms that PS five and Xbox 600 00:40:17.320 --> 00:40:21.440 Series versions of Fallout four have been delayed to sometime in twenty twenty four, 601 00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:24.119 that's not exactly surprising. Also, it's not surprising because it's like, hey, 602 00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:28.440 why not take the extra time and line it up with the TV show? 603 00:40:28.519 --> 00:40:31.639 Right? The TV show seems to be coming in pretty good. I 604 00:40:31.639 --> 00:40:36.079 think it looks high quality enough, it's going to get some attention. Looks 605 00:40:36.119 --> 00:40:40.480 better than the Halo Show at least, and I think Fallout four actually could 606 00:40:40.480 --> 00:40:44.280 be the game that people go back to when they get excited about watching that 607 00:40:44.320 --> 00:40:45.559 show and they're like, Okay, now, just like Witcher, I want 608 00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:50.519 to go play a Fallout game. Fallout four if it gets an update right 609 00:40:50.519 --> 00:40:52.559 around that time, could really benefit from that. What do you think. 610 00:40:53.320 --> 00:40:59.480 I think it's an interesting strategy to just port this over to the current gen 611 00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:05.239 of consoles versus making a new one. And I think it's oddly a very 612 00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:09.280 smart strategy for them to do. Yeah too, and it makes it would 613 00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:13.679 make even more sense grubted delay this, like you said, for the launch 614 00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:20.119 of the TV show, because then there's like a lot of existing guides and 615 00:41:20.199 --> 00:41:25.760 videos and content already centered around Fallout four that you just breathe a whole new 616 00:41:25.800 --> 00:41:30.719 life into it with this, right, it makes sense. Yeah, just 617 00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:34.679 just take your time on it, and we'd Hey, that game, I 618 00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:37.360 don't just like every other beth as the game I feel like did not launch 619 00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:42.320 smoothly, So let's get it as smooth as possible. Todd. Yeah, 620 00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:46.000 let's uh actually give a Fallout for a little bit of extra level. Let's 621 00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:50.519 show that we're capable of that. So, yeah, take your time Obviously. 622 00:41:50.599 --> 00:41:52.239 Part of that probably is that they are putting a lot of extra work 623 00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:57.559 into Starfield. Maybe they're feeling the pressure to update that more frequently. They 624 00:41:57.599 --> 00:42:00.239 said they're gonna update it a ton throughout twenty twenty four or so. That 625 00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:04.920 probably will draw resources away from maybe something a little bit more low priority, 626 00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:08.840 like an update to Fallout for But yeah, I think, hey, Fallout, 627 00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:15.280 a new Fallout game just seems so impossibly far away, like there's just 628 00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:17.679 no world in which like the core, but does the game studios team is 629 00:42:17.719 --> 00:42:22.360 working on a Fallout anytime soon because Starfield's going to take a lot of their 630 00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:25.519 attention for quite some time. And then they've already promised older scrolls is next, 631 00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:30.639 So we are talking twenty thirties before we're really looking at a realistic timeframe 632 00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:36.159 for a Fallout game from them. So finding other ways to do Fallout, 633 00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:38.880 whether it's not just you know, an updated version is one thing that's like 634 00:42:38.880 --> 00:42:44.440 the smallest thing they can do. But I don't know, remasters of or 635 00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:46.639 maybe like full on remakes from a new studio of Fallout one and two I 636 00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:51.719 think could be really cool. Obviously, like I've said before, of City 637 00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:55.840 and has had that conversation with a Microsoft and this conversation, it was just 638 00:42:55.880 --> 00:43:00.119 a conversation about a Fallout New Vegas follow up of I'm sorry, but you 639 00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:04.920 could see a world in which you know that happens, because it's like man 640 00:43:05.119 --> 00:43:07.960 Otherwise, we're waiting a really long time for a Fallout game that people want. 641 00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:12.840 So is it I never checked out New Vegas. Diderry circle back to 642 00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:16.280 that, I think by saying that you just got a million people really excited 643 00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:21.039 because New Vegas is beloved. I've never really played it either. I played, 644 00:43:21.079 --> 00:43:23.000 I started it, and I kept meant to stay with it. I 645 00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:25.719 think it would be a cool feature. Actually, we should play New Vegas. 646 00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:30.320 I really, it's one I really want to get into. Okay, 647 00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:34.159 yes, falk, what did I say? Why? I think out loud? 648 00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:40.239 Let's go Vegas boys, all right? Next story, Nico Partners has 649 00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:45.639 a report here that Asia and Mena, which is Middle East and North Africa, 650 00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:50.719 spending is at seventy eight point five billion dollars for in game purchases in 651 00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:53.079 twenty twenty three. This is from Sophie mcavay at Games Industry. Dop is. 652 00:43:53.599 --> 00:43:59.400 A new report from Nico Partners has found in game purchases accounted for eighty 653 00:43:59.400 --> 00:44:02.920 seven point eight percent of the eighty nine point four billion dollar gaming market share 654 00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:07.679 in Asia, the Middle East, and North Africa. Of the seventy eight 655 00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:10.599 point five billion spent on in at purchases, premium games counted for just seven 656 00:44:10.639 --> 00:44:15.880 point eight billion, while three point one billion was spent on subscriptions. The 657 00:44:15.960 --> 00:44:19.239 report set, sixty two point three percent of those surveyed bought premium games in 658 00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:22.719 the last twelve months across all platforms. A third of respondents used subscription services 659 00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:27.400 to access the games, which increased to fifty one percent when accounting for broader 660 00:44:27.400 --> 00:44:31.519 subscription services such as Prime Gaming. However, high retail prices discouraged non spending 661 00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:36.440 players from purchasing premium titles, with thirty nine point three percent of mobile gamers 662 00:44:36.440 --> 00:44:40.159 and forty four point three percent of PC gamers citing as their biggest issue. 663 00:44:40.800 --> 00:44:44.920 Really, I've been cleaning the storage to like put in perspective, hey, 664 00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:50.280 when it comes to the global gaming market in app purchases, free to play 665 00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:54.280 gaming, and then and the gaming on mobile is gigantic and getting bigger, 666 00:44:55.519 --> 00:45:00.480 and it's just growing so much faster than premium game purchases let alone the console 667 00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:04.559 space, which would be catching up in places like Asia, the Middle East, 668 00:45:04.599 --> 00:45:07.920 and North Africa and don't have as much of a presence in those in 669 00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:10.639 those regions, but people are still playing a ton of games, and so 670 00:45:10.760 --> 00:45:15.840 when we see companies like Microsoft deemphasize the console, this is what they're looking 671 00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:20.039 at, right, This is they're like, hey, we got to figure 672 00:45:20.039 --> 00:45:22.840 out a way to catch this other wave that is not just like happening, 673 00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:25.760 but has happened, and now they want to get out ahead of that. 674 00:45:25.800 --> 00:45:30.119 And they could do that now that they have Candy Crossaga and call Duty Mobile. 675 00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:34.920 Right. Yeah, I know that a lot of a lot of audiences 676 00:45:34.920 --> 00:45:39.199 and communities joke around about genschend Impact Mijoyo in general, but they are an 677 00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:45.360 absolute behemoths with the gotcha style of gaming and as well as in that purchase 678 00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:51.119 is because it's a whole carriten stick grub, right, Like you, it 679 00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:54.119 feels bad to just lose seventy to eighty dollars for one title, yep, 680 00:45:54.239 --> 00:45:58.840 But if you get in for free and then you're just getting the little taste 681 00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:00.239 of like, all right, two dollars, two dollars, two dollars that 682 00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:06.679 eventually adds up well past seventy to eighty dollars in the lifetime of someone playing 683 00:46:06.679 --> 00:46:13.159 that specific game. Yeah, and also just accessibility. Everyone for the most 684 00:46:13.159 --> 00:46:16.639 part has a phone. I actually think Apple's on the wrong side of this. 685 00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:21.920 Remember we saw those stories of like you can play your Triple A games 686 00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:27.239 on your iPhone right tracing and everything, Yep, Resigon before on your phone 687 00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:31.880 resident before. I don't think there is an interest in that specifically, that 688 00:46:31.920 --> 00:46:37.280 ship is sailed, that ship is sailed. People definitely want something akin to 689 00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:42.119 a Call of Duty mobile, a PUBG mobile. I mean Fortnite was always 690 00:46:42.239 --> 00:46:50.840 huge on mobile specifically, And speaking from experience or through osmosis where my partner's 691 00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:57.039 a high school teacher, the children are terribly glued to their phones, like 692 00:46:57.119 --> 00:47:00.679 this generation of kids. And this isn't just me saying like an old man 693 00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:04.320 and saying like, oh, the kids don't know these juris. I definitely 694 00:47:04.320 --> 00:47:10.800 think there is an odd dependency on the mobile market and stuff where uh, 695 00:47:12.320 --> 00:47:15.960 it is a part of their day to day. You cannot rip it away 696 00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:19.760 from them or they may cry. Because I've heard stories of kids cry. 697 00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:25.079 I think that we would We're going to look up from our games here in 698 00:47:25.119 --> 00:47:29.400 ten years and we're You're like, Okay, what are the kids into when 699 00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:31.599 it comes to the stuff that we like? And it's good. I think 700 00:47:31.639 --> 00:47:35.840 it's gonna be a pretty large disconnect of them being like, we never even 701 00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:42.000 considered console games really, uh. And I think are maybe in our immediate 702 00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:45.559 zones, the people around us that like see us playing console games and playing 703 00:47:45.559 --> 00:47:49.159 PC games, uh, they will clearly will know people that do that. 704 00:47:49.519 --> 00:47:52.280 But I think on a global scale, and even here in the United States, 705 00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:55.559 it's gonna be like, no, they don't actually care about this stuff. 706 00:47:55.599 --> 00:48:00.360 And I think that that's another trajectory that Microsoft is spotted and they're like, 707 00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:04.679 yeah, we get it. People who play console and PC games, 708 00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:07.280 they do spend a lot of money. But that was it's almost going to 709 00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:12.800 look like an anomalists behavior, an anomaly here in a little bit where it's 710 00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:15.719 like, yeah, that generation was built that way, and everyone on either 711 00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:22.599 side of them does not jive with that in any actual real spending way, 712 00:48:22.800 --> 00:48:24.719 and they just want to consume games in this whole other new market. And 713 00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:28.679 I was, you know, and I was talking to buy Uber driving the 714 00:48:28.679 --> 00:48:30.400 way home from the airport because he was like interested, like why are you 715 00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:31.960 out there? And we'll start talking. He's like, oh, okay, 716 00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:35.440 you know you care about the business side. I'm like, yeah, we 717 00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:37.679 talked about it on my show all the time, and we started talking about 718 00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:43.440 it. Was explaining like, yeah, people, the way people spend gaming, 719 00:48:43.559 --> 00:48:46.079 spend on gaming in different countries is also very different than here, and 720 00:48:46.320 --> 00:48:50.719 like pay to win, pay to win can't really work in console and PC 721 00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:54.719 on mobile and in places like China, which is a huge business for PC 722 00:48:54.880 --> 00:48:58.800 gaming. They're like, no, that's totally normal, that's completely fine, 723 00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:00.800 like that, there's no and that's not a qualitative statement. I'm not saying, 724 00:49:00.800 --> 00:49:02.920 oh, they're the worse for that. I don't care if that's their 725 00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:05.800 culture. But they're like, no, if you have more money, of 726 00:49:05.840 --> 00:49:07.480 course you should be getting better stuff in a game. That just makes sense 727 00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:13.400 to them. And that amount of money going into that way of thinking about 728 00:49:13.400 --> 00:49:16.039 games is going to have effect on what games look like globally, and it's 729 00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:19.199 just gonna again, We're going to look up in ten years and it's going 730 00:49:19.280 --> 00:49:23.760 to be very very different, I think one hundred percent. I yeah, 731 00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:28.840 yeah, there's there's there's a whole market out there grub that is completely different 732 00:49:28.840 --> 00:49:34.199 than how we will ever operate and look at games. And I'm not poop 733 00:49:34.199 --> 00:49:37.199 pooing it at all. I love it. It's just it is definitely an 734 00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:45.000 audience where it makes sense why Microsoft was so adamant about wanting to acquire Activision 735 00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:51.800 Blizzard King because of the King aspect of that as well. And it's all 736 00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:57.039 I just don't see those people because I think about how Nintendo fumbled the bag 737 00:49:57.079 --> 00:50:00.199 with Animal Crossing Grub, because I feel like there's a lot of overlap when 738 00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:07.639 it comes to people that are exclusively mobile gamers with Animal Crossing specifically, where 739 00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:10.719 you could have fleeced those motherfuckers. It's so hard they could have done it. 740 00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:15.239 Doug, get ready to cut the check. I got ideas, baby, 741 00:50:16.239 --> 00:50:22.719 But I know a lot of people Grub that have spent an obscene amount 742 00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:30.880 of money, specifically on Pokemon Go for example, that have never touched a 743 00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:37.960 triple A game in a decade. Okay, a lot a lot of people. 744 00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:40.360 And I'm not talking about my partner, because that means I spent the 745 00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:45.679 money a lot of people that I'd come across and meet and just chat with 746 00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:50.880 them. And in a similar experience Grub where you're chatting to your uber driver 747 00:50:51.000 --> 00:50:55.800 about this, and like, I'm talking to them and they've never heard. 748 00:50:57.519 --> 00:51:01.400 They don't know that Final Fantasy has continue past seven. They don't know that 749 00:51:01.639 --> 00:51:07.480 Kingdom Hearts has multiple games, or that there's multiple Call of Duties. They 750 00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:09.679 don't know what a PUBG is. Yeah. My driver, he didn't do 751 00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:13.119 Grand Theft Auto until I called it GTA and then he's like, oh, 752 00:51:13.119 --> 00:51:15.519 okay, yes, I said Grand Theft Auto and he didn't know what I 753 00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:16.800 meant. I'm like, oh, wow, that's that's what even that one's 754 00:51:16.800 --> 00:51:21.400 atle bit wild to me, and I'm all for it. Where if this 755 00:51:21.480 --> 00:51:23.000 creates more jobs for people, you know, yeah, yeah, I mean 756 00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:28.360 the I think that I'm not too afraid of the things I like disappearing. 757 00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:31.320 Nintendo's proved too resilient and as long as I got like a home under like 758 00:51:31.360 --> 00:51:36.679 the Nintendo Umbrella, I'm gonna be fine. And I think Steam has also 759 00:51:36.800 --> 00:51:43.440 proved way too resilient and two powerful in terms of deciding what's going to be 760 00:51:43.440 --> 00:51:45.000 the next big thing. All the big stuff always comes out of Steam early 761 00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:47.599 access, not always a lot of time a lot of the times these days. 762 00:51:47.960 --> 00:51:51.800 Uh, And that being true, I'm like, okay, so yeah, 763 00:51:51.800 --> 00:51:54.039 as long as the experimental new ideas are still happening in the places where 764 00:51:54.039 --> 00:51:57.679 I'm playing games, I'm gonna be like, you know, a kid in 765 00:51:57.679 --> 00:52:01.239 the candy shop feeling just fine. So the market changes again globally outside of 766 00:52:01.280 --> 00:52:05.719 my purview, that's completely acceptable, and I have no issues with that. 767 00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:09.079 All right. This is a cut the check idea only for super Giant, 768 00:52:09.119 --> 00:52:13.519 because I only want super Giant to do this. Greg, if you're listening, 769 00:52:13.800 --> 00:52:15.360 hey, it's me Jared. We've met a couple of times. I 770 00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:19.480 really like all your stuff. But anyway, hey, super Giant, guys, 771 00:52:19.719 --> 00:52:24.239 just make a fucking mobile gotcha game with eighties with all these thirsty motherfuckers 772 00:52:24.480 --> 00:52:30.239 will buy it. All right, You'll become a million you'll become a billionaire. 773 00:52:30.639 --> 00:52:32.400 All right, super Giant, it's me your friend, Jan all right, 774 00:52:32.719 --> 00:52:37.519 I'll talk to you all later. Got the check the check, all 775 00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:40.239 right, jam A skip to this last story. Jaman. Physical sales from 776 00:52:40.360 --> 00:52:46.280 Famitsu Switch Oled sold sixty two thousand units Switch Light. Then the Switch added 777 00:52:46.280 --> 00:52:51.360 about another thirty thousand PS five and the PS five Digital did about forty five 778 00:52:51.440 --> 00:52:55.519 thousand, and then the Xbox Series X and s they're around, yeah, 779 00:52:55.599 --> 00:53:00.480 just around two five hundred units sold. But really I included this because Pickman 780 00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:07.679 four in Japan has crossed one million physical copies alone sold in that country alone, 781 00:53:07.320 --> 00:53:12.360 and that is really impressive for that game. That makes me very happy. 782 00:53:12.440 --> 00:53:15.760 Jan we did it. We did it, folks. We got them 783 00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:20.119 Joe, We got him Joe. We did it that. Yeah, that's 784 00:53:20.199 --> 00:53:24.239 that's absolutely amazing. And I have always felt as a new Pickman supporter that 785 00:53:24.840 --> 00:53:30.440 Pickman has never gone its flowersite despite it being around flowers a lot. You 786 00:53:30.519 --> 00:53:31.800 know, hey, we got it to number five on our list. Little 787 00:53:31.800 --> 00:53:35.840 spoiler there, Sorry everybody, but you can go watch that right now and 788 00:53:36.559 --> 00:53:39.400 it'll give you hope for the future seeing that game do so well. All 789 00:53:39.519 --> 00:53:43.400 right, let's see here. Supermar Brothers Wonder was also still number one, 790 00:53:43.480 --> 00:53:47.000 eighty two four and seventy units sold over the week. It's at one point 791 00:53:47.039 --> 00:53:52.519 two three two million already in Japan. Fisically so pretty good for that game. 792 00:53:52.840 --> 00:53:55.519 You know, we were just talking about mobile games. This is evidence 793 00:53:55.639 --> 00:54:01.079 that console gaming is not going to disappear. Yeah, the console gaming is, 794 00:54:01.119 --> 00:54:05.159 at least when it comes to Nintendo is doing better in Japan. Than 795 00:54:05.159 --> 00:54:07.159 it has in the last several years. So it's like even the country that 796 00:54:07.199 --> 00:54:10.480 we thought, oh no, they're fully moving onto mobile, they're not looking 797 00:54:10.480 --> 00:54:14.840 backward at all. Like even the PlayStation PlayStation five seems to be doing better 798 00:54:14.840 --> 00:54:16.880 in the PlayStation four. The PlayStation four struggled a little bit in Japan, 799 00:54:16.920 --> 00:54:20.360 still a little bit, and it wasn't like some catastrophe, but its struggled 800 00:54:20.360 --> 00:54:23.119 a little bit in Japan, And now the PS five seems to be rebounding. 801 00:54:23.119 --> 00:54:25.559 Now the games don't don't sell as well, but give it some time. 802 00:54:25.719 --> 00:54:29.159 Once it's like the default console for a lot of people, maybe that 803 00:54:29.199 --> 00:54:34.039 will change. But Nintendo Switch games just continue to fly off the shelf in 804 00:54:34.039 --> 00:54:36.639 that country. So yeah, I think we're going to reach this equilibrium where 805 00:54:36.679 --> 00:54:40.480 it is everything we're getting is additive. I am so far beyond the mobile 806 00:54:40.480 --> 00:54:45.039 games are coming to take away the things we like. Phase of my life 807 00:54:45.079 --> 00:54:47.800 that was twenty twelve, and I think we learned less than them. Where 808 00:54:47.840 --> 00:54:52.320 it's like, immediately right after that when everyone was dooming gloom, we got 809 00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:54.400 the PS four taking over the world, and then very soon after that we 810 00:54:54.400 --> 00:54:59.159 got the Switch taking over the world. So yeah, here's here's here's the 811 00:54:59.199 --> 00:55:02.159 dirty thing that I'm about to say. Folks, in the year twenty twenty 812 00:55:02.159 --> 00:55:06.480 three, there was a good month of my time where I didn't want to 813 00:55:06.480 --> 00:55:09.960 share this with anyone, despite meh, loving everyone I work with and feeling 814 00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:15.840 like a safe space. Are we downloaded Clash Clan Class Royale? What the 815 00:55:15.880 --> 00:55:19.239 fuck? Wait? You just did this recently? No, this was. 816 00:55:19.320 --> 00:55:21.440 This was in the middle of the year. I downloaded Class Royal and I 817 00:55:21.599 --> 00:55:23.360 I played it for a solid month. I didn't want to share with anyone. 818 00:55:23.679 --> 00:55:28.280 Yeah, you keep that to yourself. You keep your shame to yourself. 819 00:55:28.960 --> 00:55:30.760 And hey, hey, hey the game is still fun. Yeah, 820 00:55:30.920 --> 00:55:37.199 damn it. I was. There's a new Star Wars like card deck building 821 00:55:37.199 --> 00:55:37.880 game. I think it's coming out on mobile, and I'm like, I 822 00:55:37.880 --> 00:55:40.480 should play that, and I know it's just gonna be gotcha shit and I'm 823 00:55:40.480 --> 00:55:44.360 gonna lose a bunch of money on it. But I was fifty one fifty 824 00:55:44.360 --> 00:55:50.880 myself. Please, I'm okay, we'll see up. Next time I see 825 00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:52.960 you, I'm gonna check your phone, Jan I'm gonna see what you've been 826 00:55:52.960 --> 00:55:55.719 playing recently. Look at my apps. I'm gonna look at your apps all 827 00:55:55.840 --> 00:55:59.880 right. I got the poll question from yesterday. Let's see here. Will 828 00:55:59.880 --> 00:56:02.679 you you double dip to play GT six on console and then again on PC? 829 00:56:04.599 --> 00:56:07.239 Sixteen percent said yes, eighty four percent said no. And if you're 830 00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:09.639 wondering, who's that low? No, that's sixteen percent of people who are 831 00:56:09.639 --> 00:56:14.360 going to buy the game twice. That's music to Rockstar's ears. And we'd 832 00:56:14.360 --> 00:56:15.559 all good. Like five ten percent of the people that said no are a 833 00:56:15.599 --> 00:56:19.599 line, right, So I'll just wait for a sale, like that's what 834 00:56:19.599 --> 00:56:23.639 they really mean. They'll wait for a sale or waitful you see like fun 835 00:56:23.880 --> 00:56:29.840 fun mods. Yeah, exactly. Once they start seeing uh seeing Thomas the 836 00:56:29.880 --> 00:56:32.159 tank engine and there, they won't be able to help themselves. Everyone. 837 00:56:32.679 --> 00:56:37.239 I will definitely be double dipping. I did vote yes on this because I'm 838 00:56:37.239 --> 00:56:38.880 not going to wait to play it, but I will definitely get it on 839 00:56:38.920 --> 00:56:43.880 PC once it's available. Thanks to n ZXT, I'm i am a PC 840 00:56:44.079 --> 00:56:47.760 PERV. Yeah we did it. Everybody welcome. Noe told me about Moonlight 841 00:56:47.880 --> 00:56:51.400 before. Huh oh, yeah you did get you down with Moonlight. Yeah, 842 00:56:51.440 --> 00:56:52.960 I could have told you all about Moonlight. I love Moonlight. I 843 00:56:53.079 --> 00:56:57.079 try this shit out. They got an Apple TV at what the fuck? 844 00:56:57.159 --> 00:57:01.079 You know what? That's that's my I've been using the Steam like streaming that 845 00:57:01.159 --> 00:57:04.960 I should use moonlight. Wait, this is AMD. Can I use moonlight 846 00:57:05.000 --> 00:57:07.320 on this? I don't think I can use moonlight on this? Maybe I 847 00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:08.800 ken. I don't think that matters because it's like it just works on phones 848 00:57:08.800 --> 00:57:12.880 as long as the computer's in VideA. So yeah, I'm gonna use moonlight 849 00:57:12.920 --> 00:57:15.400 on on this going forward, and maybe that'll work better because boy, that 850 00:57:15.440 --> 00:57:17.639 it was really discouraging where I'm like, oh, I'm having such a good 851 00:57:17.639 --> 00:57:21.239 time. I'm getting into Star Wars. I'm gonna have time for this game. 852 00:57:21.360 --> 00:57:22.559 It's fitting into my life and the way I need it to. And 853 00:57:22.639 --> 00:57:25.920 now it's running at five frames per second even though I can see it over 854 00:57:27.039 --> 00:57:30.800 my computer and it's running great. So moonlight's better. I'm gonna use that. 855 00:57:30.840 --> 00:57:34.320 Now. People wonder what the fuck Moonlight is. It's Yeah, it's 856 00:57:34.360 --> 00:57:38.079 basically a generic version of Invidia's steam Link kind of thing, so you could 857 00:57:38.119 --> 00:57:44.360 stream games from your computer to your mobile devices. But it's made by someone 858 00:57:44.360 --> 00:57:46.039 who puts a lot of love and care into it, and it's better than 859 00:57:46.079 --> 00:57:51.360 the Nvidia and steam Link stuff. Yeah, cool. All right, we 860 00:57:51.400 --> 00:57:52.519 got a new poll question here in a second. But in the meantime, 861 00:57:52.599 --> 00:57:57.280 Jan what do we have happening on Giant Bomb And what's happening with you, 862 00:57:57.320 --> 00:58:04.800 buddy? I I built shelves yesterday they got my partner. I were on 863 00:58:04.800 --> 00:58:07.000 the fence about should we get these industrial looking shelves that make us look like 864 00:58:07.039 --> 00:58:09.280 we work in a restaurant? And I'm like, the fuck, yeah we 865 00:58:09.360 --> 00:58:12.880 should. It looks like the ones in every restaurant I've ever worked in. 866 00:58:15.679 --> 00:58:19.159 Well, oh no, why did someone send me this? What is this? 867 00:58:20.320 --> 00:58:23.280 No? Okay, all right, something bad is about to happen to 868 00:58:23.320 --> 00:58:28.840 me then. But for the rest of today, I believe you, Me 869 00:58:28.960 --> 00:58:32.360 and Jeff Backlar going to dip into the finals right after Game Mess Mornings. 870 00:58:32.400 --> 00:58:35.480 Yep, look at for that. For everybody, I hope that talk about 871 00:58:35.559 --> 00:58:39.280 it. Oh, We're also going to have an episode of Voicemail thumb Truck 872 00:58:39.360 --> 00:58:44.000 later today, another episode of Game Mess Mornings, as well as UPF and 873 00:58:44.159 --> 00:58:49.840 BCR tomorrow. Tomorrow will be the finale finale of Giant Bomb's Game of the 874 00:58:49.920 --> 00:58:54.559 Year twenty twenty three, where we will be talking about best music this year. 875 00:58:54.719 --> 00:58:58.960 YEP shouts out to turbot Sean for putting a lot of that together and 876 00:58:59.000 --> 00:59:04.880 collliating all the those links for us. Also grub. We got the finale, 877 00:59:05.119 --> 00:59:07.840 the in person on stage finale up on YouTube now, like we mentioned 878 00:59:07.880 --> 00:59:10.039 at the top of the show, please go check that out. It's fun 879 00:59:10.039 --> 00:59:13.880 time. It was a really good time. Yeah, it's fun just to 880 00:59:13.880 --> 00:59:15.000 see what the live show looks like. I think the video does a good 881 00:59:15.039 --> 00:59:20.119 job of kind of capturing the energy. So yes, definitely check that out. 882 00:59:20.840 --> 00:59:23.800 All right, let's see hear new poll question? Do you want a 883 00:59:23.880 --> 00:59:29.480 multiplayer Spider Verse game from Insomniac in addition to Spider Man three and Wolverine? 884 00:59:29.519 --> 00:59:32.719 So not taking away those games, but if we get the Spider Verse multiplayer 885 00:59:32.760 --> 00:59:37.119 game in addition to that, is that something you want? Yes or no? 886 00:59:37.559 --> 00:59:40.599 We will talk about that on Game This mornings here on Giant Bomb tomorrow 887 00:59:40.679 --> 00:59:45.440 morning for Dregs Day. I think we should be able to get tam otherwise, 888 00:59:46.239 --> 00:59:50.719 Yes, I think we're doing good. Anything else that we should talk 889 00:59:50.719 --> 00:59:53.599 about that we got going on? We mentioned that got upf tomorrow. Hey, 890 00:59:53.719 --> 00:59:59.119 the holidays are coming up, folks. We're gonna try and pre recorded 891 00:59:59.199 --> 01:00:02.960 some stuff. But it's it's gonna be challenging because people are in and out 892 01:00:04.639 --> 01:00:07.920 for holiday breaks. But I got grub. I got a VIT's copy of 893 01:00:08.800 --> 01:00:13.639 that toys r Us sent me in like nineteen ninety seven. It's a commercial 894 01:00:13.639 --> 01:00:15.239 for star Fox sixty four. And I got a VCR here I can connect 895 01:00:15.239 --> 01:00:17.519 to my computer. Do you just want to watch this? And we'll put 896 01:00:17.559 --> 01:00:22.400 it out over the holidays down like Charlie Brown, baby bucking Hey, let's 897 01:00:22.440 --> 01:00:28.480 go. Lists are also coming folks. Don't worry. Yes, list of 898 01:00:28.519 --> 01:00:31.119 the lists are coming in hot and fast. Actually, we got a bunch 899 01:00:31.119 --> 01:00:34.679 of people who have already submitted their stuff. We got it on a list. 900 01:00:35.199 --> 01:00:37.400 Some people just sent me like in raw text I sent over Sewan. 901 01:00:37.440 --> 01:00:40.360 I'm like, make this into a thing. So he's helping out there as 902 01:00:40.360 --> 01:00:44.559 well, and as well as Marino actually getting it up on the site. 903 01:00:44.840 --> 01:00:47.119 Marino's also already got a bunch up on the site, like ready to go 904 01:00:47.199 --> 01:00:51.480 live here over the holidays, So look out for that. We'll let you 905 01:00:51.559 --> 01:00:53.360 all know regard to ask the two people I was tested with asking, So 906 01:00:53.400 --> 01:00:57.280 I'll go do that today. Thank you appreciate that. We got we got 907 01:00:57.320 --> 01:01:00.519 time. We got time, Andian yes, I will. I need editing 908 01:01:00.599 --> 01:01:01.760 help Lexi. Yes, Tam was going to help, but he might be 909 01:01:01.760 --> 01:01:05.679 busy, so we'll see. I got to get my stuff over to Alexi. 910 01:01:05.679 --> 01:01:07.840 That's what I gotta do. I also got to get my stuff over 911 01:01:07.880 --> 01:01:10.039 to Alexi. I'll write that up today. Jim, thank you so much 912 01:01:10.079 --> 01:01:13.119 for taking today to talk with me about video games. Man. You know 913 01:01:13.199 --> 01:01:15.360 I love it. It's my favorite way to start a Thursday. Thank you 914 01:01:15.400 --> 01:01:19.599 all for watching. You're the best audience in gaming and you prove that on 915 01:01:19.719 --> 01:01:22.519 Saturday Live. That was really nice everybody. It was really great to see. 916 01:01:23.519 --> 01:01:27.199 There was an open offer to kiss kiss everyone in the mouth, but 917 01:01:27.239 --> 01:01:29.960 no one wanted to redeem it. Yeah everyone. Everyone seemed pretty chill on 918 01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:34.039 that actually, so hey, yeah that's cool. Yeah's loss. Thanks again, 919 01:01:34.719 --> 01:01:37.119 We'll see you tomorrow. Until then, have a good one, take 920 01:01:37.159 --> 01:01:43.079 care of yourself, and goodbye. Beat the BLA man,