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Hey everybody, thanks for coming to
another episode of My Angular Story. I'm

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your host, Aaron Frost, and
today as our guest, we have one.

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Go ahead and introduce yourself. Hi, Aaron. So, yeah,

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my name is Juan. I'm a
software engineer living in London and uh yeah,

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I work a lot with Angler.
Yeah cool. Where do you work

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in London? I work for a
company that's called Wealth Dynamics. So so

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we do software for the enterprise and
uh and yeah we we we We built

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our product in Anglo two three years
ago. And uh yeah, it's it's

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early adopts. Yeah, very very
really early. I loop test and yeah,

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so very happy to be in the
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That's code dev chat at Century dot
io. So compared to like three

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years ago, has it stabilized a
bit? Yes, Yes, definitely.

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I think it's so. I've been
in this company for for actually five years,

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and we I mean, I worked
in with Angler before joining the company,

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but but since since I joined,
I always was always trying to to

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push push the uses of Angler,
and it is the way when I came

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here, they were doing NBC on
net with with Jake Query and and we

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need to move into that and and
we kind of started testing part of the

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product, and with with Angler JS, we did a little bit of Anglo

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jas and then that was at the
end of To Southern and sixteen, and

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and that was when when when Angler
two came out, and then we and

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we we we started directly in in
beginning to Southern and seventeen and we really

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push hard on on on implementing Angla
and and that was that was great choice.

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I think it's it's something that that
we we haven't regretted. And you

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know, the company grew grew a
lot. We we used to be when

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I joined, I was probably ten
people and and now we are more than

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a hundred people. So so it's
it's an interesting growth. Yeah, yeah,

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it's it's I mean from developers.
I would say half half of that

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is developers. So so yeah,
and at the moment, I'm paiding the

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development of of of of this and
and and I'm mostly doing yeah, a

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bit of both, but but pretty
much just put in the strategy of how

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the product heads and where it goes
and the road map and all all that.

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So you're about in the GD program. Yeah, no, no,

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I know, I don't know yet. Well, well, love to one

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day. So what are you outside
of work? What are you? What's

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your work with Angler? Are you? Are you speaking? Are you blogging?

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Are you doing video courses? Like? What are you? Where?

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Where? Are other people going to
run into you as they travel through the

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Anglo ammunity? Right, So I
will say that what I did a few

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speaking but but but not many.
I I actually, my my first ever

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talked was was last year in I'm
Going to Connect. I was talking about

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reactive forms and uh. And it's
something something probably a completely different approach from

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from what people normally take, but
it's something that we we we have,

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we we have to face in the
enterprise. So so yeah, I started

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there, I did. I did
that talk that everything I mean kind of

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started when when I was going to
the meetups in London. Uh. And

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yeah, I went into in to
do this talk. You know Pete.

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Pete helped me a lot on that, and you know, the organizer I'm

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going to Connect and and yeah,
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meetups and and I also did Angla
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the same subject actually, so so
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just kind of using reactive forms with
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so I also have a I open
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from is called from QL and and
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I mean, it's it's as I'm
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but I'm working in the branch because
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but yeah, he's it's you know, it's open sources. Just something when

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when I get a bit of time, I just go and and and it's

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when when I try a lot of
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too innovative to to put it into
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I I that's that's probably when you
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speaking and and from time to time, I just blog a bit. I

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blog about phone cell mostly, but
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doing a bit more. From time
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and and I I put some examples
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example of things I'm doing when I
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know, just to get opinions.
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people to come and and and you
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what do you think am I doing
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it's it's it's anything that you would
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I think that's that's one of the
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what I normally do in at work
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comes into my mind that I would
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I was out a lot of as
you're talking, a lot of thoughts.

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I literally just walked out of a
reactive forms dreaming all right, like

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yeah, like, I walked out
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my microphone in and called you so, yeah, reactive forms are fantastic.

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I did two hours, and I
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much more than a cursory overview.
At that two hours. There's just so

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much to talk about, you know
what I'm saying. Yeah, no,

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absolutely, yeah. They are so
powerful and yeah and and yeah there's and

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it's even even you know, they
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if you want to move into into
doing complex things. We that that's something

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that we know why I do a
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with forms in the last say seven
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yeah, yeah. So also I
was out of Denver and that was fun.

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Yeah, it was really good fun. Yeah, I love you.

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I love the talks actually there yeah, great talks. Yeah, yeah,

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a lot of good speakers. You
talked you you spoke about reactive forms with

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ANGI I spoke about just reactive angular
components, more like more of a focus

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on the components themselves than specifically forms. So I love I love the focus

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on people doing reactive stuff. Like
for me, this is the most important

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skill for a negative developer. How
do I how do I embrace our XS?

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So yeah, for me, I
love I love watching the teachers like

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you and others grow and start to
get more courses on this kind of stuff

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because I think it's I think it
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an APEX skill for developers. So
yeah, absolutely I agree with that.

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Is. I remember watching one of
your Twitch ones, and I think you

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came on with one of those tweeters
you say, you know, man,

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if you're subscribing, you are you're
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that you know, that simple idea. I think that now it's more common,

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but that simple idea just just say
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it brings a lot of you know, rethinking on on how you do things

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and and and yeah, it's it's
much more simpler. It's it's very powerful.

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It's just his idea of looking at
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think your your your talk. I
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lucky enough to be there watching your
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great because he goes that that's the
really hard beat. You know that,

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I think combining the streams and and
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the search and with the you know, it's it's really difficult to get your

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head around. Yeah, yeah,
it really is. It's it's really uh,

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it's it can be a total job, to be honest. You know

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that that presentation, though, if
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it could be smoother because like imagine
you remember that that that where it's

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like it's basically a search table with
where you type the search and it's got

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like page number, right, So
it's not very complex. But if if

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you already had talked about reactive forms, I could have even written less code

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because I could have just used a
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Yeah, subscribe to the value changes
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changes, so it could have been
even even much less code. If I'll

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max out. So yeah, it's
uh, you know, if if we

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had been able to sequence that,
it could have been a bit more powerful.

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But yeah, I remember I still
remember the first time. I mean

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I remember when I went, ah, reacted, I get it combining streams.

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Wow. I remember when I had
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you're like ah. And then I
remember teaching someone and I was like,

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no way, this person's going to
get this, Like this person's not smart

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enough to understand this, you know. I thought that, and I showed

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them that simple table example, and
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was like, I think it looks
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don't think this person's cable, and
then they're like they totally got I was

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like, wow, maybe this little
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it's helped them. So I try
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type thing because it does click for
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yeah, it's I completely agree with
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I'm trying to advocate here in the
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see in the last well when when
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but sorry, lights went out.
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the Yeah, so the idea that it

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wasn't that that probably you you will
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subscribing and continue your object into your
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yeah, it's it's I think X
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team here is is a bit like
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when I remember we were trying to
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of using state management and and uh
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the beginning, we said well,
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a state management we need to use
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uh, and we couldn't get our
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ago? It was just so complicated, and you know, you go and

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you say, yeah, to do
to do up and you look at it

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and you say, it makes perfect
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using it, you it was I
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now, but I remember back then
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use subjects and and and you know, just or be heavy subject and and

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I start still subscribing but getting notification
from different APIs and and it's it's funny,

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don't look back. And now it's
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don't always need to use a gr
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sometimes it's always it's the best solution
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it's the same journeys. He's just
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Yeah. Yeah, so yeah,
you know, I might being a

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horrible host right now because you keep
talking. In my mind just keeps spinning

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on code and examples and so,
uh, you're you're like triggering me on

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like so many thoughts right now.
And I'm trying to be trying to come

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back and a focus, but my
brain's just like thinking about what he said.

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So yeah, so let's kind of
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bit more about you specifically and helped
me too. What are some of the

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what are some of the harder things
you think you've done? Like in angular,

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what are like, Hey, Kwan
is really good at this thing?

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Like what are you? What are
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If someone wanted to tweet at you
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topic they should tweeted at you about? I? I I like forms.

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You know, forms. It is
something that that I enjoy talking about.

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You know that that's something if someone
wants to tweet on me or anything,

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is you know, all the different
ways of doing it, especially because he's

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a very very you know, specific
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and yeah, it's is something that we

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need to we had to face here. A lot is is authentication something is

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something that I kind of go better
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the application that we have for instances
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people just to come and and and
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if you can't get something going.
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lot of a lot more done that
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and that was that was interesting.
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eventually. It's you know, people
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man, Well I'm gonna I'm gonna
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do you want to you want to
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first one is vicious to your online
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if we can something and I was
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it's he looks a bit like the
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I was creating it. It looks
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background or something like that, so
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a bit more I'm know, show
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can do the net also if you
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explore. M hm. And the
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online vis quote online. Yeah,
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then the other one is to say what

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type script to sevent came out?
Seven? Yeah, yeah, with the

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optional chaining, which is you know
everyone is looking at that. Now you're

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going to be able to use question
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the same way we use question marks
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yeah, kind of putting them in
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too, So yeah, I'm excited. Yeah, I'm gonna be nice to

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have optional chaining. I mean other
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so it'll be nice to take able
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Yeah, that's cool, awesome,
great picks. So I got a couple

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of picks as well. This week, I was asked to figure out how

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to detect when Angler has fully rendered, and I was like, I don't

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want to do that. Angiler doesn't
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like, no, it's easy.
I'm like, it's it isn't easy.

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Like so I stood back and I
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one of my friends, Sander,
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And I was like, oh,
yeah, zone JS. Zone Jess will

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tell you, hey, there's nothing
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about it to kind of share out
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to and and I'm doing it for
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hey, how slow is the app? How long does each of you take

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if us are getting slower or if
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so yeah, if anyone wants to
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too. I'm Aaron Frost, and
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post I put out this week.
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that because I saw you your blog
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and actually we're doing something similar and
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yeah, yeah, that's good.
It makes if other people are doing

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it, maybe it's not still such
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I mean Angie Kov team. We've
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So if you're if you're from like
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represent someone who you are, someone
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FaceTime with the community at large at
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a scholarship program to kind of help
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of give them a chance to come
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I would be deserving or something like
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group that needs better representation, head
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find the form, put your name
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we'll pick some names and hopefully you'll
get an email. Because it really is

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fun to kind of see it is
fun to see these people come in on

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scholarships they have. I mean,
everyone's pretty excited right one, but these

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scholarship to recipients, their smiles are
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know, a lot of them are
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It's a lot of fun. So
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is the ENNGI COF scholarship submission process. So go out there and be able.

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That is game as well. One
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you Twitter at one stop A stop
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That's right. Yeah, that's the
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I guess I'll just say, hey, man, thanks for coming on.

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It was great to get to know
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thank you, thank you, thank
you for inviting me. It was really

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good to be in the show that
had a lot of fun. Yeah,

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