July nineteenth, twenty twenty four, allegedly according to that thing we call a
calendar, this the o'celli effect, and it is a friar's day. So
we're live. And oh, by the way, I am trying to say
this very concisely and correctly so that the stupid automatic transcript thing can actually accurately
state what it is. Your announcer is saying, Yeah, there's a bunch
of things now that generate these automated transcripts. And it's pretty funny to look
at some of my intros because I introduced the show in virtually the same way
every time, although there's always mild variations, and if you guys are listening
all the time, you know that. But it's really funny because the words
I use, they twist them into other phrases on occasion. And yeah,
you want to check that out. Kind of funny. One of the better
ones as actually the stupid Google one on YouTube. But anyway, are we
gonna talk about that tonight? Probably not. We're gonna talk about whatever you
want because you get to join us. Who's us, my co host b
Pete and whoever decides to call in at three one, nine five, two
seven five zero one six. That's three one nine five two seven five zero
one six. That's the number to dial in on a regular phone. Or
you can reach out to me Charles dot Ocelly on Skype and if you ask
me to, I will call you into the show. So don't call me
on Skype. Uh, you can call that number three one nine five two
seven five zero one six, or send me a text on Skype and say
hey, can you add me into the call and I will do so.
But anyway, that's the two ways to join us. And it is Friday,
and I din't really happened this week, right, Yeah, nothing really
happened this week. Nobody's gonna want to talk about anything. I know.
There was a lot of action in the WWE, and I'm not just talking
about Lenda McMahon's speech at the r NCA, which I found interesting, along
with the religious revival from the Reverend what was that guy's name, I don't
know. Supposedly Jesus protected Orange, Jesus and crap I had to strike on
the politics, Yeah I did, and there was a whole yes Lord,
and it was pretty interesting. I thought, don't recall Republican National Conventions having
preachers like that before. But anyway, it is what it is, and
it was what it was, and my coast be Pete's with me, and
I'm sure he's got a few things to talk about, but mainly we're gonna
hear from you guys on the phones as quickly as possible. So let me
just check in with BP first, see how his week went, and then
we're going to get this whole thing underway. There will be no age of
transitions at ten pm, so we'll go slightly over to make up the fact
that I started about five minutes late, and then we'll be done here on
a Friar's Day night. I'm sure, unless somehow there's some absolutely necessity,
absolute necessity, excuse me, see the transcriber is going to screw that one
up, some absolute necessity for us to continue beyond a ten pm Eastern.
We shall see if that arises anyway. BP. How you doing, man?
Oh? Doing pretty good. It's been a bad week for TV.
I don't know, it's a bad week for TV. Yeah. Everywhere you
turned, you know, you're having to watch something from the RNC and some
twisted interpretation of what you're actually seeing that somehow you need somebody from the Democrat
party to tell you what's going on. So it's like I said, it's
been a weird week and TV suck. Well, I know my description was
not bad. I mentioned that Linda McMahon spoke and I talked about that that
one guy's religious revival thing is as I was describing it. I don't care
what anybody says. That's not a that's not a twisted view. I was
struck by the fact that it was you know, yes, lord, he
was doing that, uh preacher from Michigan, right. I think it was
from Michigan because he said he met with people in Detroit. I don't know.
I never heard of the guy before. You know, he reminded me
of who is that comedian? Maybe no, it's not Kevin Hart. Maybe
it is Kevin Hart. He reminded me of one of those guys, you
know when when they have the stand up short dreads and they're not really long,
and they just kind of, you know, they get worked up on
a stage. And I've seen this many well, I live in Georgia,
so you see this on a Baptist stage. Okay, I'm sorry, you
just do. And that's what it was like. Then yeah, now that
you mentioned though, if you think about it, there's a lot of conservatives
in the in the Black Baptist Church. Yeah, that usually don't get a
lot of airplay. Now. Sewell is the guy's name, by the way,
It just came to my mind, Sewell sew e lll so sewel Sewell
Swell whatever either way, sew e lll that guyol. Yeah, it was
different. It was definitely different from what you usually get at a Republican convention.
But then again, you don't usually have a Republican convention that's completely devoted
to the candidate. It's usually devoted to the party. Although checking out what
happened when the former CIA director was up there was pretty interesting too. Who
am I talking about the guy who was the head of the State Department and
the CIA at one point, right Pompeo the weird kind of there was deathly
nobody applaud a couple of times there him talking was pretty funny because he mentioned
that, you know, he thought Vladimir Putin was evil and dead. Silence
in that arena was like, what did that guy just say? Like you
just said the wrong thing the Republican convention here, but you know, Pompeo
went on like straight face, you know, unaffected by the fact that people
were looking at him, like what what would you just say? And and
the noise stopped during that, and he said something else too that made people
go, what, hey, hey, what are you doing? You know?
Yeah, it was it was weird, like Mike Pompeo forgot that he
was there to uh. I mean, he's when he's sucking up the Trump.
It was fine, you know, I was there every day of the
Trump you know, the Trump administration. Every day I was there. Remember
he switched jobs during the Trump administration from uh yeah, from CIA had to
State Department head and uh. But he he was kind of out of place.
And you also got to hear from Trump's granddaughter. I mean, it
was an interesting three days, but it revolved around him once again, just
like it did during the last convention. Three days. You missed today,
Oh I thought it was it was four day's wall to wall I got.
I purposely did not watch any of the convention. I just I'm sorry.
These conventions don't do anything for me. It's a bunch of And then when
I saw that they had a whole COVID on there, I said, well,
that's a good thing. I didn't turn him, So, yeah,
I missed that. I was hoping somebody would bring it up tonight and maybe
I would go get clips from YouTube during the show actually, because you know
it's I know Dahld Cogan's had his moments, but what did a few years
ago that he got busted for being pretty racist on a recording? At one
time? I think he was racist because was it one of his children,
or maybe his ex was like, I don't know, with somebody who's race
he didn't agree with. Or maybe I'm mixed. Maybe I'm mixing him up
with Dogg to Bunty Hunter. I think that was his daughter that was looking
up with some guy or something and he went off. But I don't know.
Just well, he's having to understand the pageantry and all that. But
I'm sorry the republic I don't understand the Republican Party anymore. Well I really
don't. I don't either, But I do understand why haul Cogan's there.
It makes perfect sense. I mean, you have the WWE Hall of Fame
president, you know, so why not. And of course Linda McMahon was
there. She was the Small Business Administration ahead also during his administration, and
WWE is a significant reason why people across the world know who Donald Trump is
to begin with before he ran for president. Yeah, I don't understand any
of that. That's the one thing about Trump I don't get is him appointing
people like Linda McMahon. I mean, this is somebody who years ago was
caught up in a big void scandal. Well, the Royd scandal was more
her husband and the business and and holds up to it neck in it.
You can't she held what well, of course, presidentship or chairmanship of the
corporation for years of course, so you know this, Oh that was both
of your husband. Nah, she knew everything that was going on. Don't
okay, anybody tell you otherwise. And the man would not be involved in
something without being updoor neck in it. Well, okay, fair enough.
Look, I'm not I'm not even making these arguments on my own behalf.
I'm making these arguments on behalf of others, because there's plenty of people that
are going to be angry at me if I even make fun of this.
So Hogan was involved in that steroid thing. Hogan was also involved in the
sex tape thing. If you remember where the shock job Bubba the Love Sponge
was apparently I don't know, banging his wife or maybe no, Hogan was
banging Bubba the Love Sponge's wife or something like that, and somebody videotaped it
and then Gawker ran it, so there was a big court case. So
Hogan's been an interesting character to wind up I down Walker. Yeah, of
course it did. But I mean, look, all I'm saying is,
if you just want to tell me how great of a moral man Donald Trump
is, then of course ho Cogan should be there. You know, if
your main man is Donald Trump, makes sound just in Trump's defense and I
really don't know why I'm doing this, but in Trump's defense, I mean,
he's no more, no more moral than the great JFK. So,
you know, and he's the he's the hero of the party, so why
not. Yeah, okay, but I don't I don't care, and I
don't think you know, Kennedy's a great moral hero either. But wow,
no, I'm just saying they're on about the same level. But you look
at the the pedestal that the left has put JFK on. You know,
according to them, he was going to solve the world's problems had he not
been taken out. But well, one thing I can say for sure is
that JFK was never on Jeffrey Epstein's plane for for certain. But other than
that, I think, and who knows really what was going on with Jackie.
Quite honestly, she just knew how to keep it quiet anyway. You
know, still, sare's a chance she took him out. What's that you
think she had them taking out? Yeah, you think about it. You
know the families back then, you know it's gone matter of pride. You
start running around on your wife, you got I mean she had connections to
oh who was the Greek guy? A Nassas? So you know, there's
no telling how far her reach, you know, stretched out there. This
is gonna be a fun night. And you know what, I'm looking over
at the callers and one one caller has dropped. But we do have a
caller on who is absolutely perfect to bring on right now, right now perfect.
It is the timing for this man, and he hasn't been on in
a while. I'm just gonna pop open the phone and I'm gonna sit back,
be Pete. You might want to sit back to finally spent Kent Pass
come back to the effect, this is the god, this is the perfect
guy to be here with all the gimmicks. Oh oh my god, I
get to give infringement out of the way. Man. But uh, I
tell you, guys doing tonight absolutely good to hear from you, Spent Kent.
You are exactly the guy who should be on right now to talk about
this particular thing now, Hulk Hogan. Uh if I would have told you
ten years ago that Hulk Hogan was going to be on the main stage at
the Republican National Convention, you know, like ten years ago, you would
have been like, dude, I need to buy weed from you. Uh.
He would have been like, actually I would have I wouldn't have been
surprised ten years ago. Really, Okay, Yeah, I mean if you
think back in the eighties, Trump was kind of like celebrity cool and like,
you know, like Haul Cogan was getting big. You know, he
was on the A team and stuff, and you know, I've heard Haul
Cogan back in the eighties, man, my boy Donald Trump were hanging out
of Trump Plaza or something like that. Yeah, there was something like that
going around for a while. They were, you know a lot of people
like Trump back then, he was much younger. You know, rich guy
had his stuff going on in the eighties, kind of celebrities, you know,
made him celebrity. Well, Rick was big then, Yeah, the
teams. But in the eighties. Look in the eighties and the seventies,
guys like Rick Flair would run around those screaming that they were hanging out with
billionaires anyway, even though they weren't. They were like, I got I
got eighteen million dollars. I'll tell you what, you know, And you
knew that nobody was going to really beat somebody if they went, I got
ten million dollars in the bank, and you can have it if you could
beat me, because we go around and lear jets. Meanwhile, the guy's
got five grand. You know, he's getting five grand together. There actually
was in wrestling twelve or thirteen whatever it was years ago. Yeah, no,
he was. He had Lashley and McMahon had Umaga, the late great
awesome Oosh y Umaga. But yeah, so, I mean he's been buddy
buddies and stuff with. You know, they make money, that's what they're
there to do. They were doing it. You know, ww's really made
money being celebrity. Conscious since the mid eighties when they started the whole wrestle
media, well, when they went and they did rock, when they did
Rock and Wrestling, and they started cooperating with MTV, and they brought like
people like Cindy Law into it because she had worked with Loue Albano on the
Girls Want to Have Fun video and all that. When they did that,
that's when they crossed over into mainstream stuff, right, and that was a
different time period. Now, hold on just a second, because I don't
know what You probably were not around when I revealed this kent because for years
and years people said, oh, you know, you must have run into
trumpets and I used to deny it until finally somebody got me to admit it
on air that I had actually met Trump. And when I met Trump was
at an event, which is really strange. And I've met people tell me
that I'm lying that this event existed. But you're such a wrestling fan,
I bet you could tell people that this is a real thing. I'm describing.
Vince McMahon had a bodybuilding league of sorts and they brought it to Jersey
and Trump was involved in this thing where it was like I wasn't at the
event. I was at the side of the event. I knew people that
were working security. I ended up in a special room where no press was
allowed. Okay, and Trump ended up in that room, and I was
in room with let's call them Italian businessman. I was at a tam Okay,
my friends and I actually shook Trump's hand. But this was at an
event. This is in the mid nineties. I don't remember if it's ninety
six, it's somewhere in there, ninety seven, ninety eight, it could
be anywhere from ninety five to ninety eight. And I barely but I ended
up shaking the guy's hand. And it was because of this WWE backed bodybuilding
thing that was going on, and they did it on the Atlantic City Boardwalk
for some reason. And Trump was totally the Trump properties were totally involved in
it. Now, I've had people tell me this thing didn't exist Kent,
so no. I thought it existed earlier than ninety five. Though I thought
that was like, you know, late eighties, early nineties type thing.
Well, I wonder if like you're like five years ahead of where I thought
it actually was. But I could be wrong, because I know it was
something that didn't last. But I thought they were into it, you know,
maybe in the early nineties. Well, let me show you final while
it's like third over thirty years. I thought, well, I'm thinking it's
well, if I'm saying ninety five, then that is thirty years, right,
Yeah, almost. I thought I was like ninety two. Well,
I mean like the latest being ninety two, like maybe eighty nine, ninety
ninety, like nineteen ninety. Well, I didn't think it was like all
the way like ninety five or later. I thought it was older than that.
So but yeah, I didn't do I do know that there was one
remember the time formed formed in September fifteenth, nineteen ninety and dissaulted in July
of ninety two. It was called the World Bodybuilding Federation. Okay, I'll
see. I figured that I knew it was early on, so I got
my I got my year off a little bit. But this thing happened and
they went to Jersey. Maybe we can have somebody look at it. Can
you see a thing where they went to Jersey police, because it must have
been ninety two, then it has to be the latest part of that ninety
one June fifteenth, ninety ninety one is a pay per view event in Atlantic
City. It's the Southern Inaugural Championship. And then the sub King was in
Long Beach. Well that was in California. Yeah, that's when the steroid
scandal came out in the WWF, and so they introduced drug testing in March
of ninety two. Let's see, Luf Rigner left after they initiated the drug
testing policy, Okay, and from Lex Luger, who at that time was
with the WCW. Apparently he got injured a motorcycle accident. He was going
to participate, but he backed out. So yeah, I knew there was
w W two the guys that were there. Yes, as the pay per
view was a commercial failure with only about three thousand buys, and a month
later, in July ninety two, McMahon personally funked in and too reader the
co founders of the IFBP to in form that the WBF would dissolve. Okay,
well you know, here we go the WBF, and it did happen,
and it was in Jersey. I have my year wrong? Uh?
What kind of god? I thought? I thought you had your year wrong?
I do. I knew it happened. No, and I did I
have my year wrong? Okay, fine, but I'm telling you it happened.
So I just yeah, yeah, I agree with that. I thought
I was wrong. I thought you didn't. After you said that, I
figured, okay, well, I'm just getting a year wrong. But but
anything that happened, I knew it was a while back. Maybe it's a
Mandela thing. Look, I don't know, but my point is this thing
happened. I know that there was you know, and I wasn't in a
room with a whole bunch of the you know, greased up bodybuilding guys.
I'm in a room with people that were just you know, nobody let the
press see these people people. Okay, So and Trump went through that room
really quickly to shake hands, and I shook his hand. That's it.
That's my whole meeting. But nothing else to it. But but that was
the weird thing, right, Well, as long as you guys weren't in
the showers together with those greasy bodybuilders, you and Trump. All right,
Look, I don't know what went on in the rest of that building.
I cannot say for certain anything else about anything. I don't know about drugs,
steroids, nothing, I just know that I knew the security guys and
they were like, hey, you want to come to this thing, and
I was just like, I have nothing else to do. Actually, that
makes more sense because I was actively a musician, very active in the early
nineties as a musician, so that would have been exactly the right time for
me to just get randomly invited to stuff, and that's what happened. So
there you go. Okay, that makes more sense actually because that's back when
I was opening for National Acts and all that kind of stuff, and I
mean I wasn't known, but I was like just a local musician guy,
and I knew who the security people, and some of those same people wound
up working for MTV and UH and stuff like that, and they worked on
that that Jersey Shore thing that came around a couple of I guess a couple
of years later or around that time, and their their funniest contribution in my
life is is the fact that we knew somebody that was like it's saying,
they were going to go try and like I don't know, get in the
hot tub and get on MTV, and that was their big thing. So
they were going to try and hook up with some of the girls from Jersey
Shore somehow, and one of the guys who worked security, his name was
Tim, was like, yeah, man, well, if you're gonna do
that, you better like triple bag it. And the guy's like, oh
why, and he's like, well, because last time they were here and
they stayed in the house and they made us clean out the house after they
left, there was something like I don't know, three dozen containers of like,
you know, all sorts of medicine to control herpes in the house,
like all that herpes cream bottles were all over the place. And so if
you're gonna, if you're gonna go hanging with those people, you just might
want to be aware that, you know, apparently there were dozens of bottles
of this used up in that house, you know, during the whatever time
they were filming there. So that was the that was the thing, and
I just I'll never forget that. And that was one of my I did
a spittake with some beer in my mouth at the Sawmill in Seaside Heights because
that's hilarious. So that's uh, yeah, I don't even remember what year
they did Jersey Shore. That's all kind of a blur to me. You
know, but it's the nineties. I know it's the nineties, and I
do know that that was one of those things that happened. Uh but yeah,
and that was I'm sure that Trump was involved in that pay per view
by then, As you said, Bpete was not successful, but he was
involved in a very successful pay per view situation where they had the thing where
he was going to have a match with Vince McMahon and the loser was going
to get their head shaved. So you know, obviously Vince McMahon got his
head shaved, right, he was gone through chemo anyway, so he was
going to have to lose the air there you go time and so yeah,
this was a perfect time to have Trump and his hair Joe, you know,
before he was president. Bro. I mean, they both have arrestler
fight each other, you know, and the loser loses hair, plus Stope
Cole Steve Austin was the special referee or whatever, right, So you know,
McMahon was kissing up to him all the time, like on the you
know what before the pay per view, all those shows, he was always
kissing up to the stone cold because he didn't want to lose his hair.
Actually it was a really good gimmick. It was funny, but well,
in real yeah, he got ties to them and uh, well in reality.
The funniest part about this to to me to this day is in reality,
if you ever got a good look at Vince McMahon, is that over
the years, this guy is like built like a monster. Steroids are not
like his physique is like crazy, like you know, even when he's older,
you know, when he got old and everything, it's like he still
had this like cut, serious, nasty bodybuilder body Vince McMahon. Yeah,
so in reality, I think if he, you know, got into a
street fight with Donald Trump, he'd kill him inside of three seconds. I
mean, but oh he would have. Yeah, he would have made short
work of him. He's building lifting, He did do some steroids. We
also lift weights, and yeah, he's had a good regiment all his life.
You know, He's right, he was like he was like deadly than
hundreds of pounds, like you know in the eighties. All the reason he
looks small because he stood a lot of next to Andre the Giant and big
John Studd all those years. You know, he's a big dude. But
when you're putting him next to Kevin Nash or The Big Show or anybody else,
he's gonna you know, he's gonna look whippy. Well, that's the
next to Triple As. He's not that much smaller than Triple Ah, but
Triple A definitely looks bigger. He's the younger wrestler, right, blah blah
blah at the time, Right, I mean, when you're standing next to
guys who have you know, a chest the size of three people. Uh,
you know, I mean you're gonna look small. And yeah, next
to Andre the giant or well, Hulk Cogan is what six foot four,
he's more than that. I think he's six y five at least six to
five. I mean, and he's well over three hundred pounds at any time
in his life, he's over three hundred pounds mostly muscle. You're gonna stand
next to that guy. You got to be large to look anything but small
next to that guy, right, Yeah, you know, And and like
you said, Andre, I mean, right, Kevin Nash is way bigger
in him. And then like you know, the Big Show is the biggest
of the bunch. The exception of Andre, he was he never got as
sick as Andre, but he might have been an inch or too taller,
you know, Paul White and uh, big Show and uh but there you
know, a big Show is probably a better athlete and everything, at least
Andre towards the end for sure. Yeah but I mean yeah, but you
know Andre was just gigantic, right, Well, no, that's the thing
I mean. And I saw him walk next to me at convention Hall.
That dude had a hand bigger than my head easily, you know what I
mean, Uh, like the size of a catchers mid. I mean bigger
really. Uh, I'm telling you, like, I would not be surprised
if the guy could literally like not palm you know, you see, somebody
can palm of basketball. I'm very certain that he could do better than palm
my whole head. Andre the Giant when he was alive, he did that
to me and Geen. He put his whole hand over his head. He
could have easily palmmed and lifted them up. Yeah, like like disappears.
Yeah, like his whole face is right, Diet, I mean big mits.
The dude was huge. I mean they always announced him as what seven
foot four, but yeah he was, yeah, but no, he was
actually I think he was seven. I think he was seven three or seven
two either way, he was giant. Yeah, he was like seven feet
freaking tall, and he was something like four hundred and fifty pounds. I
mean I'm pretty sure, yeah, But but nonetheless, I mean that's the
weird thing, is that. Yeah, you put three hundred and twenty pounds
six foot five six six Hulk Hogan next to him. Hogan is clearly smaller,
you know, like not not by a little bit either, right,
I mean because I remember that WrestleMania that was either WrestleMania two or three.
Though. Yeah, no, he did slam him. He did slam him,
and uh was like the big thing back then. Yeah, that well,
remember there was a people going you get a million dollars if you can
slam him or Big John. I think Big John Studd started that and another
with Big John Studd a long time before that, but uh yeah, and
then Bobby Heenan kept it going for a while. But andre to Gin though,
that was that was literally you know, almost passing the torch to Hogan,
who's already had it anyway at that time, right, you know,
he's kind of having to pass the torch. See, Hogan never wanted to
pass the torch. Yeah, there's what I understand what I've been told he
was. He never wanted to pass the torch. You know, there were
guys that were ready for that torch that eventually took it themselves, like Brett
Hart Shawn Michaels going into the nineties, but Vince Vince had to be convinced
to start letting more athletic, smaller guys actually wrestled, you know than just
Hulk Cogan's leg drop and all that showmanship. Well, right, and you
know, and so back to wrestlers and politics though, I mean outsie side
of the fact that I mean, obviously we know about Jesse Ventura became governor
of Minnesota, and you know, he was bounced around as a potential,
you know, independent presidential candidate. And that guy who played Kine is the
mayor of a city, right, Jacobs, Yeah, he's the mayor.
He's actually the mayor of a city like today, isn't it he still or
he was? I know he will. I think he was, but I
don't know if he still is. But yeah, he was. And there's
been a couple other guys right who have you know, turned around and gone
into politics. But it's weird because, uh, you know, Donald Trump
is the only president and you know that we're probably ever going to have,
hopefully until we get to idiocracy times where you know, he's in the WWE
Hall of Fame as well, and he is, he's literally a WWE Hall
of Famer. Yeah, and uh, do you guys remember the photo when
he got elected in twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen. Whatever is a meme going?
I'm sure I shared it and it said it said because it had Trump
in the irval office, you know, and also Vince and Linda were there,
McMahon, Stephanie and Shane were there, and Triple H was there and
with Stephanie, so I think that was it. All of them were in
the uh oh and stone cold Steve Austin, right, and they're all there,
and and the meme said, just think every one of these persons in
this every person in this room has has gotten a stone cold stunner from stone
cold Steve Austin. And that's true. He stunned that every including Trump.
He stunned it and gave a stone cold stunner. Did to Linda McMahon one
time. He's done it to Vince McMahon ten thousand times. Shane too,
and he even got Stephanie a few times, and Triple H forget about it
all their matches, so everyone in that that was the point. But as
a true meme, I mean everyone here had a stone cold stunner, including
at the I'm president, well, you know, previous to that. I
got to be honest with you. The only memory I have of like a
wrestler, I think, you know, somebody like Nixon or whatever was like
some kind of fan and met with some wrestler of the day back in either
the sixties or seventies, and I can't remember which one it was. But
outside of that, the only time I remember a wrestler being like called to
the White House to meet with somebody. Is you ready for this one?
I think it was Sergeant Slaughter got asked to come to Was it the Bush
White House or the Reagan White House? One or the other. I should
probably look that up when when Sergeant's thin was it Reagan? It was?
But it was all about because it was all about because Sergeant Slaughter was a
patriot, an American hero, because he's a patriotic symbol now, and so
they invited that guy who never served in the military by the way. Uh,
you know, they even turned him into a heel, a trader of
Benedict Arnold at one point. Yeah. No, later running around the Russians
and the Iron Cheek or something. I don't remember exactly, but yeah,
they turned him healed big time where he was anti American. Yeah, later
in his career he was like the Iraqi sympathizer Sergeant Saul right, yeah,
yeah, but let me let me see if I can find that real fast,
and then I want to go to somebody else cause yeah, Sargeans Slaughter
was actually a sergeant in the Marines. No, he was not here,
as if Robert Rudolph Remas wasn't already a badass wrestling name on its own.
Upon becoming one of the now ww's most beloved superstars, Reemus chose the stage
named Sergeant Slaughter. It was inappropriate at the time, even wearing his character.
But it says, I don't believe that's true. Was not only said,
Remus was not only the United States mareen. He was also a drill
instructor. No, I remember that specifically. That was not correct at all,
because he had he had some sort of problem. I know what part
of his problem was he had bad eyesight because one of his eyes was bad
and could not be inducted. I remember this. Let me let me check
this. Am I am? I having a Mandela effect thing here, smid
Kent. I could have know he was. I thought he was in the
Marines at one point as a sergeant or whatever. Let me see. And
I don't know about a drill instructor, but I think he was a sergeant
in the Marines. I remember about South Carolina. Whatever that boot camp is
in South Carolina? What is it for? As I remember he had never
been in the Marines because I saw a thing about him. Talk about boy
it is right from Paris Island, South Carolina and then boot camps or one
time they build them in a boot camp. So I don't I don't remember,
but lots of stories were made up about these guys, you know,
backstories. Let me let me see something here. Ten things you didn't know
about sergeants. The key to Koloff's not Russian, he's from He's from Georgia.
I think, yeah, that's one thing. Uh, let's see.
The sheek was what Mexican or Greece or Greek or something. No, the
iron speaker, iron sheet, was actually really from Iran. Yeah, the
Iron Sheek was actually a bodyguard for the Shaw of Iran at one point for
real. Yeah, the Iron Sheeke really. Yeah, he trained, he
helped train the Rock, and that's where The Rock got Gibbroni from. Yeah,
he says, most of these guys, there's a few people good in
here, most of these guys. Gibbroni's talking about the locker room when The
Rock first came in, because he's friends with his dad and everything, had
all those fights. But yeah, that's where the Rock jo Broni from the
Iron Sheet. He just recently passed away, Yeah he did. He was
living in Georgia at the time. I was actually trying to arrange an interview
with him because they were doing a documentary on his life that ended up on
Netflix. Uh right, Yeah. He was a heck of a wrestler.
He was heck with talent, so okay, looking at his Wikipedia bp,
the gimmick of Sergeant Slaughter is that of a former US Marine who fought in
the Vietnam War. War Remiss himself never served in the military, He received
several draft deferments and even opposed the war. According to Wikipedia. Now I'd
like to see what sites you're saying, because that's what it says on Wikipedia.
Now, you know, look, Wikipedia could be wrong, and he's
currently signed to the ambassador program for WWE, so he's probably one of those
guys they even sent them over. But they probably sent him over to the
Middle East for those Middle Eastern things when they did the Saudi Arabian broadcast and
all that. But let me see what else I can find. But Wikipedia
says no, he never served. Where else do we have something on him?
Let's see TV Ronald Reagan. Apparently he met with a few presidents,
including Ronald Reagan. Uh. Yeah, that's what thought. He talks about
his career. Okay, here's the Philly Voice interview. Ww ambassadors are meeting
presidents, NXT and more. Philly Boyce are here for TLC. Uh,
we have the Eagles bills going to meet the players. Blah blah blah.
Okay, so here his interview. What kind of work do you do for
the WWE Hardcore match? All right, I'm trying to find another spot that
confirms it outside of Wikipedia about Sergeant Slaughter. Uh. Maybe we'll just kind
of asking the internet this question. Right, you did Google it. You'll
find a couple of things. Yeah, but well you got to you gotta
weed out all the stuff connected to wrestling, like the Ring report and stuff
like that, because they're they're all saying that he was in the corps.
Okay, well, here's a Forbes magazine. Let's see. And Forbes magazine
opens with it's hard to tell where sergeant Slaughter ends, and Robert Grimis begins,
Uh, let's see, because it's said right toward the top, who
protected his gimmick? Come on, stop with these pop ups, pop up,
stupid ad thing speaking as an analyst, Come on, stupid videos jumping
out at me, all kinds of crap, you know, get out of
here ready, I don't need this anyway. Is honored all right? These
days? Whose content is king humor, converversation. WWE. A lot of
things that I did, as far as Sergeant's Slaughter, were done because of
my family. My uncles, who all served in the military, said slaughter
and index guy wore his uncle's emblem in my hat, gave it to me.
His name was Andy Herban blah blah blah, stepped on a landmine,
five children. He's talking about his uncle. But it says here somewhere,
the fact that Slaughter has been able to convince so many people for his log
is real life military pursuits, including legendary manager and historian Jim Cornett, speaks
to his ability as a performer, worked with Ole Anderson. Okay, herban
impact featured on the Wiener Funeral, blah blah blah. Yeah. This here
also says his perspective appeers into the mystique. Where is it? It just
said it here somewhere It's hard to tell. Sergeants. Slaughter featured in Ang's
Legendary This is them talking about him featuring in the legendary thing on A and
E because they have a series. Now speak as more of an analyst the
present six fen Under podcast, discosing his true feelings about behind the scenes and
everything looking at Let's see. Yeah, everything I'm seeing that's connected to sports
or sports reporting, or wrestling or ring magazines or they all say that he
was Wikipedia said he didn't. Right Now, we got a E. I'm
on the A and E site. Now they're doing this biography on w W
Legends. Let's see what they said, right, And I'm gonna look at
I'm gonna look at the Marine Corps Times article here, it's been a lucrative
run since's wrestling villain real life ledge and I'm to say blah blah uh.
Sergeant Slaughter is portrayed by a real life man named Robert reeen Miss. But
the line between Remiss and his fictional persona or blurry. I'm trying to see
what did you do? Over there? They're gonna make you. They're gonna
make you watch this streaming thing. There's no transcript, so I can't.
I'm not gonna sit here, tru. Yeah, but let's see. According
to the Hell Animal so far, I would have to say chances are he
wasn't. Yeah, because according to the Marine Corps Times. But Remis never
served in the Marine Corps. According to government records. That's what they want
to tell you there. But you know, let's see, according to government
records. World Wrestling Entertainment, the wrestling giant known as the World Wrestling Federation
argist latter's popularity early nineties also confirmed to Marine Corps Times that Remis never served.
Okay, yeah, so wwe If the Marine Corps Time says he didn't
serve vile, I'll take their word for it. Yeah, The Marine Corps
Times is saying that they even checked with WWE, like, tell us,
is there a real story here? We don't have any government records of him
being in the Marine Corps, and WWE said no, he didn't serve.
Okay, questions about Remis claims of real life military service have been reported on
for decades. Uh. But after the original Marine Corps Times article right here
says the man behind see what is it? The man behind pro wrestling legends,
Sergeants Slaughter tells stories of combat towards the Vietnam but he never served.
I'll put it in the room. Yeah, Okay, it's a bad look,
especially because WW used them for veterans events. Steve Bryant, Army veteran
and founder of the California wrestling news site so Cal uncensored, he's not a
veteran. WWE told Marie Corps Times that when Remiss is in character of Sergeant
Slaughter for public appearances such as, he is speaking as his character, not
as Remiss. Okay, So what they're trying to say is that when he
goes into character, he'll say stuff like that. But you know, it's
just like the guy who says, uh, you know, the ultimate Warrior
was from an alternate reality, right, uh, which, yeah, it's
the Kate Favor or whatever it's called, where the keeping character. But I
don't know. For some reason I thought he really did do it. But
you know I didn't pay H'm gonna station to the Sergeant Slaughter. Well,
no, I was never one of my favorites to watch, so I kind
of like, you know, get go blanke about just for some reason I
thought he did. He wasn't it for a little while as a sergeant But
yeah, yeah, I mean, you know it's really not a surprise.
Well just he was big when I was a little kid. You know again,
when I was a little kid, he was huge because uh uh,
you know, when you're ten years old, wrestling is amazing. You're still
arguing with your friends as to whether it's real or not. Right, And
it was a big deal. I mean I went to a match at Nasau
Coliseum and saw him fight the Iron Chic in what they called a boot camp
match, right, so you know it was and that was I think the
headline match that night. And he was a headliner. He was a big
deal. He met the various presidents, They made a g I Joe doll
out of him. They put him on the cartoon. Oh yeah, he
was in the g your series and everything. Yeah, I mean, all
I'm saying is that the guy went outside of wrestling culture and became a figure.
And like they said here, they use him at veterans events because you
know, he's a symbolic character. But you know, yeah, it's like
when Sylvester Stallone shows up at a boxing event. Okay, uh And and
despite that weird TV show he tried to do, right, what was it
called the Contender or something. Didn't he do a show like that where it
was like in a five show, you know? But anyways, I'm gonna
put you on hold, Kent, because we got a couple other callers,
and I want to go beyond this, but I just I felt stupid thinking
that, like, no, you're kidding me. Wait a minute, Sergeant
Slaughter. I always thought he was like a fake as far as you know,
like in other words, it's his character. It's not who he really
was. Some people, Yeah, they keep in character. I mean,
I'm actually not surprised by any of this. But yeah, I was gonna
give you all my Trump views about that if you got but you want to
take another call or whatever. I'll go ahead and jump on mute or whatever.
Yeah, I'm gonna put you on hold because I got a feeling you're
gonna have a lot more material to work with by the time I get back
around to you. So hang on, Okay, Yeah, I want to
I want to talk about brown Bears before I jump off, though, give
a shout out to explode dot or it's awesome. But anyways, brown bears
explore. What is that? Yeah, it's the Coast of brown Bears.
They're the live bear cam from Catmai National Park at Brooks Falls. It's awesome.
Oh but the bear can the bear? I've talked about them before,
like a while back, like last year, and uh, they're live now
and it's just awesome to watch these creatures. But you know, we get
some time, you know tonight, I'll jump into that too. We know
that's cool. I definitely to just everybody check it out. So no and
I and I love that. I actually want to get some some good sites
to go if you can get a couple of things together, because I want
some suggestions for you know, be Pete said TV something this week. He
could have turned on the internet and gone and taken a look at some of
these nature cams and checked out stuff that's going on and in the wildlife right
in places where you know, are not nearby, even though we Yeah,
yeah, the Catmi National Park, the coastal brown bears. There you go,
there's a bunch of them. You learn who they are, you can
identify them. It's more exciting the more you learn. And it's it's the
best TV there. It's it's pure medicine too, by the way, watching
these guys cool medicine. Do they have mainstream media poison? Pure poison?
You watch this pure medicine? Cool? Do they have narrators on there to
tell you about you know, here comes Sally the bear or here comes you
know a bear we named this. If you have a chat room right there,
like when you're watching it from I think it's ten in the morning to
midnight now on Eastern time, they have a chat room that's like fourteen hour
chat room, so you can do hours off when they're at it again,
so you can say, like learn the bears. You can like learn who
the bears are, the bear families are, and stuff like that from the
people in the chat probably then right, yeah, that's how I learned last
summer. And now you know, I know, I like an idea a
handful of beers. You know, I can identify a good handful. I
got your bears that I love them all, but I do have a couple
of favorites, you know. Cool uh cool, and they're just like once
like. They all have different personalities, different stories. It's incredible. I'll
try to get into detail. We have time, you know later on cool,
we'll get back into that. I'm gonna put you on hold for now,
but we'll hear from spen Caent in a minute. Now. I've had
this guy on hold in a while, so I gotta let him loose.
Next caller up, and I know he's gonna have some things to say.
And I don't think we're gonna be talking about Sergeant Slaughter, but who knows.
Jimmy, we had a caller drop off, so you moved up in
the line, and sorry that you were on there, but we wound up
trying to check the fact check a few things and and all that. And
yeah, anyways, so how you doing, man, what's on your mind?
I know you have some stuff to say, No, not necessarily before
I do, but is really going with the flow with the conversation. Well,
not necessarily talk. You can always change the flow, brother, You
can always change the flow if you want. And it's up to you,
all right, So wherever you want to go, I'm listening. Well,
when you guys were wondering about the slaughtery they got me to wonder. So
I looked up this naval paperwork and he was nothing at the military. They
actually had to issue a letter, right, So I'm correct about that.
And and like B. Pete said, if the Marine Times, you know,
if the Marine official Marines publication says he want no marine, he want
no Marine, I'm certain of that. Yep. So anywhere I wouldn't,
I wouldn't live or die by the UH Stars or Stripes news publication or any
of those. Yeah. No, not the Star whever I looked it up
yet. Well, yeah, but the Marine the Marine Corps Times, though
I've never they they're usually like really angry if somebody lies to them or if
you know, or they get they actually poor attractions. Document led me to
believe that there was briefly stolen value value stolen valor valor issue, yes,
was later over that was later overturned by some port and before that it was
overturned turned they were looking into them on that basis. Well, I was
as soon as yeah, And I've tried to tell you guys on here that
when I applied to go to college I was kind of threatened and told that
I could be prosecuted for making clay aims that my father was a veteran when
he was not. Although my claims now is now validatable through their records,
but at the time nobody could find his military record, so they told me
that it was, you know whatever. I don't know if that was a
stolen valor issue or it was you know, lying on a government form that
they could prosecute me for. But either way, they threatened to prosecute me
because I made a claim that he had served in the army and they said
they had no record of that. And that's nineteen ninety or ninety one.
Yeah. Kind of funny on that works how they choose to pick this things.
For instance, of course, it's well known that former President Obama took
advantage of being a full home for an overge student to get the grants,
and then later who wouldn't call down that he says a lord, Okay,
the same thing with Elizabeth Born who claimed to be an American Indian and has
zero percent American Indian as they be an atheist anyway, Now that's jumps what
I wanted. Trump, Welcome back, Kent, Where the devil you've been?
Yeah, he's been around, you know. I got to check with
him and see if he's actually doing his podcast because he was doing a podcast
with leap here and I don't know if he's still doing that or not on
weekends. I think he does it Sundays. We'll check back in with him
before we're done. But yeah, no, it's good to hear from him.
And he always brings a different color to the show real fast, so
you gotta love him for that. But uh yeah, so I'll take a
guess. I'll take a guess. What is trump assassination? Now? This
is yeah, I didn't even ask him about that's a choreograph. So the
deep state actually loves Trump ext But that's just my guess. But we'll see
what he says. Well, well, that's a weird mix saying okay,
quiet if there's quiet from the calling's not got playing water crap that I played
fascinating, No, that's cool, but you do know that I have now
already gotten flak for saying that the Trump assassination attempt was not a fake.
Uh. You know, I've already gotten craped for that, right because I
said, no, this is not uh, this is not how you would
choreograph you. Yeah, I'm on here in the world. I'm a bad
guy and I'll true. So, yeah, Charlie, listen to me.
I've heard this from all the big boys. Anyone that bothers the email is
the hater and probably doesn't listen to the show. M Well, some of
them must, because they're they they're definitely referencing stuff I said. But I'm
sorry, it does not look you know that the whole oh he put.
One of the big contentions so far is that they're saying that his that he
you know, somebody just like splashed blood on his face, and that he
wasn't actually injured. And I said no, because I saw a second angle
on that, and sorry, he is injured. Now. Was he hit
with a bullet? No? But was he hit with something? Yes?
I think he was hit with a piece of shrapnel from one of the teleprompters.
I think the bullet struck one of those things. Because something else hit
him. He was bullets here. I got a good picture of it.
There's no doubt about that. It's fill top year, it's all that stuff.
Well, let me jump in here real quick and asking question now,
Chuck, you say that you know you've already been attacked for saying it's not
fake. I agree with you. I don't think I think it actually happened.
But the question is do you think it happened the way they're saying it
happened? Because I've read just four nights this week instead of watching TV,
I've been on here trying to catch the latest, and the latest is there's
people up on somebody was filmed on top of the water tower. And you
can take a water tower trajectory with people that got hit in the stands,
it starts to add up. I've also seen a guy who takes the acoustic
evidence out and you can definitely just from the soundtracks when it's cleaned up and
you take a lot of the screaming and all out of it, you can
hear three and possibly four distinct weapons going off. And so when you start
looking at that. Today, there's a report out here that the Secret Service
personnel that were on that site was well, first off, it wasn't his
regular group of Secret Service agents has been protecting him. They were over worked,
they were given time off. Apparently half people out there were DHS untrained
employees. They weren't even Secret Service. So it's getting real interesting. I
think it happened, but I think it happened in a way a lot different
than what we're hearing so far. Well, I think we're looking at is
a failure. Well, yeah, it's a failure. There are security Well,
what we do know is this, Jimmy James, is that if the
Secret Service was following their procedures according to the way they're supposed to, and
they were using their you know, auxiliary people the way that they were supposed
to, that either the Secrets Nervis itself or local law enforcement absolutely failed to
do their job. Now, whether they did that on purpose or not,
I can't speak to it, but somebody dropped the ball. There was no
way this guy should have walked over there with a ladder, and apparently he
had a ladder and he got up on top of that building and there was
enough time for people to go to him. That was just credited. There
was no ladder he was jumping off on air conditioning units. Well, I've
got photographs of ladders that are up against that building. Okay, And here's
the thing, Well, I've got stills. I've got stills from some videos
that show that there were ladders up against that building. There's two of them
actually. And the funny thing is, if we skip the ladder, fine,
he still should have never made it on top of that building. That
should have been absolutely within, you know, five hundred foot of where Trump
is standing or whatever. There is no way even if you said it was
five hundred yards away, there's still no way that that should have been not
covered, not captured, not under control. That should have been taken care
of because there was a clear line of sight into the place where he was.
So Trump should have not taken the stage based on what was going on,
if you follow a secret Service protocol, he never even should have put
set foot on the stage until they found out what was going on. And
they had that guy in custody. They saw him three acts for this event,
and he went through the magnetometers and had a rangefinder in his hand.
And these clowns are having to shout over to somebody else, Hey do we
allow range finders in. Well it's not on the list. Yeah, no
problems, not arrive and let him go. I mean, it's crazy.
Well, they had this guy three out before this thing ever taken under surveillance
and they lost him. Apparently he had hid this gun. He had a
ladder he goes up. In fact, he went in the footage of it
with the ladders right there at the air conditioning unit, and then the other
ladder is what law enforcement brought out there because of course I didn't want to
destroy any evidence on the original ladder that this guy bought, not what three
hours before he ever showed up. Yeah, he went to either a home
depot or a Low's and bought what is described as a five foot ladder.
I was listening to Dan Bongina, who is directly talking to the Secret Service
because he was in the Secret Service, so interested. Okay, But my
point is is that I know in photographs I can see ladders. Okay,
Now, I know that the guy was on top of the building. So
whether he used it or not, he did buy one, according to what
they've released, but either way only because didn't have one that he wanted,
right, So whatever, either way, I'm just putting these things out there
saying that these are things we know he bought a ladder, he was on
top of that building. He should have never made it up there. And
even if he did make it up there, somebody should have taken him down.
And b Pete's got a proper point because he was close enough and in
position somewhere around the time that Trump takes the stage. And yeah, it
should have been all clear before Trump was allowed to take the stage. So
there is a failure of either the Secret Service or the auxiliary people that they
employed along with them, which they will go and get the sheriff's department,
the local cops, you know, other DHS people. Yeah, they tried.
Here's what the Secret Service blew it. It's not a question of local
authorities. The Secret Service has control of that site and when they come in
they will use local auxiliary forces to buttress what they're doing. But in this
case, the Secret Service and the head of the Secret Service now has been
pulled back. They're not allowing her to talk to the public order press at
all because of some of the things that have been said already. But they
tried to blame it. Well, you know, nobody showed up, that
was supposed to be the local police cover that they didn't show up. That's
not the case. Police chief and several other officials from the town have come
out and said, our local officers were only engaged for traffic control. That's
the only thing they were authorized to do. Because the Secret Service had this
under control. The Sile Service blew this. If that is accidentally or on
purpose or accidentally on purpose is the question we need to answer. Well,
see, but that's where I'm coming down on it. Either way, I
still leave it open that there's a possibility. I mean, he could be
trying to defend his troops here and making a statement that's not exactly true because
I wasn't there on the ground. I didn't speak the coordinators, so I
don't know what they asked local law enforcement to do. If they relegated him
to just traffic control, then yeah, it's not their failure. It's whoever
was assigned to take care of that. And honestly, like you said,
ultimately the people that were directly doing the body work, okay, should have
checked with everybody are we all clear? And if somebody would have just looked
over there, they should have seen were not all clear. There's a guy
on top of a shed. I'm sorry, Yeah, you had Secret Service
snipers on the buildings behind where Trump was speaking. They had this guy their
scopes there. I mean, the crowd is watching them looking at this guy
for a full three minutes. Why didn't one of them screen gun? And
they immediately get Trump out of there? This was a Secret Service disaster.
You think Kennedy was ad? There's no excuse for this one. Well,
and my contention is this, at the very least, the regional person or
whatever that was there, or whoever is the head of Trump's details should have
been fired and the head of the Secret Service should be asked to tender a
resignation right away. That should have been the two things that should have happened
in that case. But here we are, right, well, has she
not looked job yet? Because she did exactly what she was supposed to do.
Put a bunch of non Secret Service guys on the job that day,
set the ones that actually handled Trump down so that they're not in the picture,
and basically let it proceed the way. That's That's where I'm getting at.
There's an awful lot here that doesn't make sense with the Secret Service.
Well, and I'm beginning to wonder if this was in some underhanded way that
they were trying to take Trump out because they knew that it was over for
Biden. Well, only way by going to win this election is if Trump
is dead. I disagree, because I think they'll still vote for the dead
man and who you know, and we'll have President Vance will have to come
in. It's just that simple, because well, if you look at it,
if you look at the Secret Service, their main objective and the way
they have handled things in the past. Do you compare the way Reagan got
shot, which was a fluke. I mean, a bullet went between an
open door and the this and the molding of the car to go inside and
hit him while they're shoving him in the backseat. That was pure dumb luck.
But you look at the way that they operated, and you look at
the way they operate. Now, how come nobody ever got off a shot
on Jerry Ford. Didn't he have three attempts on his life or they caught
him before anything happened. And you look at what happened with this Trump deal.
You can't convince me yet that this wasn't set up to happen the way
that it happened. Well, unfortunately Trump turned at the wrong time, right.
I know about two I know about two attempts on Jerry Ford because it
was a sweetness. There were two women, squeaky and the ring up that
uh oh h chuck the dirty dollars. Because July eleventh just came and gone
and Trump didn't get sentenced. Is delayed a month, so one there's the
delay. Yeah, I ain't give it up my buck, so easy.
We'll wait to see for sentencing day. No problem. I'll tell you what
you you hold on to, whatever you want to hold on to, because
here's what's going to happen. Okay, all of this is going to evaporate,
so no problem. Watch as nothing happens, and watch again as nothing
happens, because incrementally it's going to get dismissed, removed, discounted. Uh,
it's just gonna amount to zero. And and the implosion of the Georgia
case is the most funny thing because regardless of Fanny whatever and her bs hiring
her boyfriend or what doesn't matter, it's all going away. So here we
are. And the one thing I will say is that, uh, and
it's so funny because somebody sent me a video this guy, this screaming Democrat,
and it was one of the funniest things I ever heard. The guy
is yelling at his fellow Democrats that why are you guys saying the election is
over already now? Because it is, you know, like, dude,
you're you're, you're you know, you're sitting there going the Titanic's not really
sinking. It broke in half, but it'll still float. You're done,
dude, it's Hilary. So I think the Democrats have put themselves in a
position that all we can do is sit back and laugh at him. Br
Hubris is so huge that they thought they could micro manage anything, and they
can't even micro manage this situation. Now. My only question is how much
is it going to cost to get Biden to suddenly have long COVID and step
down. Now. Everybody's saying it's going to be this weekend, but I
don't think they've come up with enough money to make it this weekend. Because
Biden's got him over the barrel. He controls the delegates, and if he
wants to stay in, there's nothing they can do about it. He can
take the down, you know, in one swift action. But for him
to give up those delegates or to release them at the convention and let it
be a free for all, it's going to cost him some money because he
has to publicly now eat Crow and pardon his son and himself before he leads.
It's you know, we're looking at his legacy, and Biden's a big
enough ego baniact that he thinks he has a legacy other than failed foreign policy
for the past fifty years and he's been in Congress. So I mean,
it all comes down to Biden, and he holds the chips and he makes
the call. I'm just curious to know how much it's going to cost to
get him off the ticket. You know, I have no idea, because
here's the worst thing about it is that if they turn around and try and
go with the let Kamala lead the ticket idiocy. I mean, you know,
how many ways do you want to lose? This is the question?
Because she's even worse. You're gonna have to buy her off too, because
she's sitting pretty, She's in the catbird seat. If Biden gets out,
he can release his delegates to her, or he can release them for open
vote at the convention. So Kamala is in. Say what you want either
Biden, Biden wins, he bows out, she steps in, So she's
the next president. There's no way you're gonna let the Democratic Party bypass the
first black woman has got a chance to run for president when she has kissed
their butts this whole time. She's done everything she's been told to do,
so she's been patiently. She's the lady in waiting. Here's the thing though
of it, And I don't think they can legitimately bypass her. She was
the vice president. How you know the only reason Biden wasn't defeated earlier was
because they wouldn't let him run again. You know, they wanted Hillary.
It was Hillary's turn, so Obama talked Biden to not enter in the race.
So Biden's got payback. Now, you guys made me wait for four
years. We had to go through Trump. I beat him when I ran
against him, I could have beat him. Then that's his thinking. He
honestly thinks he got it, you know, eighty one million votes. He
honestly thinks he pulled that election off. And he didn't. But that's in
his mind now he's the only one that could be he's the only one that
has beat Trump. He's right, you know, unfortunately it was a rigg,
but that's irrelevant to him. So if you get rid of him,
you explain how you're going to buy passed themal Well, I'll tell you this,
I don't think you can. And she's a loser on that ticket,
bottom line. So that's it. So you know, it's it's a Trump
victory one way or a Trump victory another way. And so you know,
here you go, we're getting locked into the no lose scenario for Donald Trump,
which I told you was gonna happen. But I didn't imagine the public
meltdown of Biden like that. I thought they could control this a little better.
That's why I was surprised that he accepted the debate. Jeneral, Yeah,
no, Michael is who wanted Biden out of They're so bad that they
pumped him up as yeah, challenge him to a debate, Yeah, yeah,
go ahead, go ahead. M oh Well, he couldn't handle it.
So you think somebody suckered him into a sabotage, a self sabotage.
Well, yes, m that's that's like that man look what they did to
Bernie and wide open. They cut his knees out from under him, told
him get back in your place. Yep, okay, fair enough. So
anyway, uh, Jimmy James, anything you want to add here, let
me take a look at the time. By the way, we probably killed
a lot of time. Now, yeah, Jimmy, anything you want to
add. In a reviewed the twenty fifty amendment says that all that's needed is
the vice president and the majority of can't look to sound a little old piece
of paper saying that Joe's poop and then that's it. He's removed. However,
he can fire appeal saying I disagree, mm hmm, at which time
it goes to Congress, and in order to pass the thing, that has
to get two thirds of the House and Senate. Right, So you know
what, Jimmy James, I've been waiting for somebody to bring up twenty fifth
Amendment, and I've been surprised nobody has actually gone and said, why doesn't
somebody do that? Because I'm thinking, go ahead, that's been talked for
the past three weeks. But look at the situation that the Republicans are in.
They pulled this crap on Trump the minute he got inaugurated. Oh,
we need to remove him. He's crazy and there's no way we can put
up with Trump for the next four years because he's a raven lunatic. We
need to take him out on the twenty fifth Amendment. People got so tired
of hearing about that crap backer in Trump. That's what I'm saying. The
Democrats have shot themselves in the foot time and time again. They come up
with the argument of twenty fifth Amendment on Trump. He actually takes a cognitive
test and passes it with flying colors, So that got thrown out the window.
You think they're going to come come back and pull that on their own
guy after Trump with falsely on Trump. That's what's so beautiful about this opera.
It's so entertaining, and there's so many twists. They can't take Biden
out on the twenty fifth when they accuse Trump of being crazy. Listen,
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you're live, and what's on your mind? It's Danny and I just you
know, after that attempt on Trump, I remember I was, I remember
RFK. I remember Martin Luther King when he was assassin. I remember RFK
when the assassinamed and it was it was horrible. And I was with one
of the FOD attempts, was in Sacramento, and I was going to school
about twenty five miles from then. I remember, I think it was seventh
grade. When we walked in that classroom in my teacher was really upset,
and he really you could have heard a pin drop because he told us it
doesn't matter what party or who we are, but that's the president of the
United States, and that is just a shameful act and we should all be
embarrassed that it happened in our backyard. So when I started hearing the d
de tails of the kind of the faux paw beyond the faux pauw the Secret
Service. This is just a huge screw up. This should have never happen.
Absolutely, I have no I have no likings to Trump, but still
he's a human being, he's a former president. This is just a shameful
act, and I think there's needs to be some accountability. So how this
happened, what the Lord heard is a screw up. Well look you you
heard me say on this air, and look you can tell if you listen
to me for an hour. You know. I don't love this guy.
I could care less if he gives himself a heart attack, if he does
whatever. But the idea that somebody took a shot at him, this is
not the way we're supposed to behave in the United States. I was not
a fan of Ronald Reagan as a kid at all, and somebody tried to
shoot him. I wasn't thrilled with that. And it's not because of some
you know, grandiose idea about how the president is above everybody. But this
is just simply not not the way that we're supposed to settle things in this
country. Right. This is this is what they tell us as kids.
We're not supposed to solve things with violence. You're not supposed to have,
you know, government or manipulation of government by gunplay. This is not the
way it's supposed to go. So guess what. Even though I'm not saying,
you know, i'd be in any day of mourning if the guy had
gotten hit, I'm saying that I don't support it. I don't I'm not
for it. I have never called for an act of violence on this show.
I refuse to let other people call for acts of violence, etc.
And it doesn't matter if it's against Donald Trump or it's against the guy you
disagree with. You know it's down the street from you. This is not
what we're supposed to do here. We're supposed to be above this crap.
So the Secret Service, either on purpose or accidentally, was incompetent that day,
That's all there is to it. And they were supposed to be running
different assets. Could you pin it on the local people be Pete says no.
I say, well, I don't know that for certain yet, but
I know this. Nonetheless, the people that were in charge of that security
did not do their job properly. Simple security protocols would have told you that
this guy should not have ever gotten to that position, not around that time.
Be Pete's correct, he should not have been allowed to take the stage
if people were doing their jobs right. And I've worked security, never been
in the Secret Service or anything like that. I guess I'm not Dan Bonagino
or whatever who claims to have been in the Secret Service. No, I
am telling you that I've worked security, though i've worked bodyguard duty. This
was a failure and a brutal, horrible not a small thing that was failed
here. This is a big deal that they allowed this guy to get into
a position with a line of sight like that at that distance. If I
was protecting some guy who happens to make a couple of million dollars a year
and I made that kind of mistake, I would expect to have to give
back part of my pay and not get paid again, and get fired and
everything else. So this is a horrible failure. And meanwhile, I'm the
legally blind guy who's done bodyguard work. Okay, No, this is garbage
what happened here. So do I find it interesting? Do I see it
as something that's going to be used? Absolutely? The iconic picture right away
already, the Getty image with him pumping his fist in the air, with
of course the American flag in the background. You know, what are you
going to tell me? Either this is you know, Trump is the luckiest
guy on the planet. Okay, cause whether you want to tell me he
was struck by a bullet or not, I don't believe. So maybe I'm
wrong about that too. But either way, if all he's got to do
is lose less of his year than Evander Holyfield did against Mike Tyson, not
a not a big price to pay. And he's got an absolute new argument
to make against everybody who's criticized him. He's in a perfect possession and among
his faithful who he is Orange Jesus to who he has the great revival for
which I saw at that Republican National Convention when I watched part of it.
He is now the guy who survived an assassination attempt martyrdom intact, life still
allowed to proceed. So he's your next president. You know it's you say
it's not in our you know it's not. It's not we're not as Americans.
We don't go out and try to assassinate people. But no, I'm
saying we're not supposed to. Well, well, we were sitting at work
the other day. Now, I was born in nineteen sixty and I started
adding up all of the people that I could recalled that had been assassinated.
So you've got You've got Katy JFK RFK, Martin, Luther, King,
Beggar, Evans, Malcolm X, Yes, h Ascalise, the attempts on
Ford, Reagan, oh god, Gabby Giffords. Uh. You look at
the number of political assassinations that we've had. So really, it's part of
our culture. I hate to say it. Violence is part of our culture.
Absolutely, And you know, it's a special time there up until Ford
in your timeline, it's a little different. There was a different set of
circumstances there where there was up people in the country. There was you know,
some very look at how divided we are. Yeah, there's people in
the country. Yeah, no, I agree with you, but look,
well, people just in my lifetime. So that's an average. You know,
at sixty years old, you're looking at an average every five years on
every five years, we're trying to take somebody out by assassination. I'd say
it's pretty much ingrained in our culture. Unfortunately. Yeah, I know I'm
not arguing against that, but it's not the way it's supposed to be.
Look, there's a suicide every eleven minutes or whatever in this country. I
don't think that's the way we should accept it, or it's supposed to be
that way, Okay. And you know, beyond the assassination attempts and assassinations
that you listed, there was also plenty of other times where the Secret Service
dropped the ball. I mean, a guy got into the White House with
a rifle when Obama was in the White House and walked in the front door.
I don't know if people remember that, but that happened. Okay.
As a matter of fact, if I think to every president, indeed,
there was an assassination plot that a near miss probably yeah, since yeah,
starting with Okay, I don't remember one on Jimmy Carter, but starting with
Reagan, I don't think we had a president where there wasn't a near miss.
And generally speaking, you know, whether it's the party crashers during Bush
or it's somebody literally you know, getting caught with an explosive device, somebody
walking in with a gun. There was the guy who crashed on the White
House lawn. I mean, there is all kinds of weirdness that happens.
And you know, in most cases, if you really examine it closely,
it's usually the Secret Service screwing up. I gotta be honest with I mean,
how did that guy walk into the White House? I mean Obama wasn't
home, which was the funny part. But the guy walked into the White
House with a gun? I mean, how did he even get on the
lawn? You know, I thought the Secret Service protected that property even when
he isn't home. Oops. What happened to those guys? You know,
people need get fired a lot, a lot faster in that business, I'm
telling you, because but if you're doing rodding work for a celebrity, you
get fired faster. Good. Yeah, if you're free, if you're guarding
some celebrity, because they've got the money to fire you. We're talking about
government here. I the hell has lost their job for malfeas ins in the
past twenty years. You know, even Nixon didn't lose his job. He
left. That's that's the part that gets me. You're not gonna let's go
back to Oliver North Why and he in jail because he got a plea deal
to testify for Congress and he went through his trial and they had to throw
it out because he had immunity. Stupid crap. These aren't going to go
to jail. And James Coney, how come he's not in jail. He's
given you know, he lies on a faisal warrant on more than one occasion,
which is a felony. We're not seen him in court. I mean,
these people. And what kills me about this is comments made by the
Clintons about violence and unity. And these people have a body count named after
him, Jesus Christ. And you know what, just directly Clinton. There
was attempts on Clinton as well. I don't remember all the details, but
there were attempts on Clinton that were pretty damn close. And not Hillary either
Bill I'm talking about. No, that's what I'm saying. They were Hillary.
The ones against Bill was Hillary. Maybe, But but all right,
I could. I don't want to make jokes. I could, though,
thanks charges for winging an ashtray at him after the Monica Lewinsky stuff. Do
you remember that when that story came out that she took an ashtray and fling
to that president. I'll tell you what if missus O busted me getting them
Lewinsky from somebody I would I would expect an assault, you know, just
saying but okay, I had to say it anyway. I'm sorry, Danny,
let me dominate your time, but I mean in real life here,
dude, I'm serious. This is not the way we're supposed to behave.
Is it part of our culture? Yeah, I can't argue against it.
It is, and it's something that shouldn't be there. But you know,
it's actually kind of amazing in my mind that we haven't had more of this
considering the you know, look, I'm not even pointing a finger. Now.
Everybody's gonna want to point a finger in a certain direction. I'm not
going to point a finger in a certain direction. I'm just gonna say that
too often. What is happening is this person is not just somebody I disagree
with. This person is not just somebody I oppose. No, they are
literally the evil. And when you start marking people as and this is the
thing to pissed me off and got me into a personal situation with somebody on
this network by the way, a former host. Again not going to mention
names, but you know what, when you start describing me as working for
you know, the devil, When you start putting me on the side of
the great adversary, and you say, you know, I'm basically in Satan's
camp. Yeah, you're dangerous and and no, I don't want any part
of that crap. We can make jokes, you can undermine, you can
mock, you can there's a lot of things you can do. But you
know what, when you start identifying to some people that they are literally at
the heart of darkness in the world, okay, and that's all they are.
They're part of the evil plan, they are part of the adversary's army.
Here's the problem. Some people might take you seriously enough that they think
that they personally must do something about it. And you know what happens when
that happens, stuff like this, and it's yeah, you can you can't
live in somebody's opinion to the point that you don't if you say, I'm
sorry, I'm of the belief that the higher ups in the Democrat Party are
evil to the bone. Either well, I'm sorry and I don't and I'm
not going to hesitate telling somebody what I think and give them examples of what
I see. There's some evil people in this world. Now you can say,
oh, well, there's some of there in the top of the Republicans,
yeah there are. But as an institution, the Democrat Party is the
party of Jim Crow and slavery and the clan, and they they act as
if that never happened, and we should accept them at their word. And
I'm not about to do it. As far as I'm concerned. The Democrat
Party is a plague on this world and we need to get rid of it
in any way that we can get rid of it. And I'm not going
to I'm going to sugarcoat what I say to somebody, but the examples out
there. But then you are, But then you are contributing to this kind
of reaction. And guess what, somebody thinks Trump is the ultimate evil on
the planet for whatever reason. This guy, who I swear I was,
just like, you know, easily, this guy could be a school shooter.
Okay, the way I'm looking at it, from what I can hear,
from the descriptions, the way his neighbors came out, all that,
and yes, he was indeed a registered Republican or whatever. Who cares.
He's twenty years old. And you know, I disturbed as a republic to
the vote in the primary. Pennsylvania is just like North Carolina. Yeah,
whatever you want to vote in the primary, you have to declare to get
that party's ballot. Yeah, and he declared Publicans so he could vote against
Trump in the primary. Whatever. The very day that he got inaugurated,
he gave to a blue pack that was supporting Democrats. Whatever. He wasn't
republic Yeah whatever. My point is that at some point in this guy's mind
it was worthy of taking a shot at Trump. Huh. Okay, well
yeah, you know what Democrat. In some people's minds, it is.
You see. But that's the thing you're not going to see the other side
of this, which is if you state it the way that you're stating it,
then yeah you could if somebody takes your word so seriously, Okay,
they might act on it. Okay, so responsible, So how am I
responsible for their actions? I'm not. I'm saying no, you know,
people are only responsible in this country. Yeah. I don't mind calling out
the evil ones, and I don't mind saying Democrats are evil. The party's
evil, and anybody that follows them pretty much has got to lean that weight,
put up with the craft. There you go, not reponsible for somebody
else's actions. If they can't handle the truth tough charts, we just have
to deal with it in the way that we can. Great silent because I'm
worried about somebody reacting to what I say, and I'm going to tell you
that, and I've got just as much a right to speak to And I'm
going to tell you that the more you encourage that, the more you're asking
for this stuff. So go ahead do it. It's up to you.
That's fine. You know, freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from responsibility.
So I'm just telling you that's what's encouraged. How am I responsible for somebody's
actions because I say the Democrats are evil? How am I responsible for what
they choose to do. They can either let that upset them or they can
accept it as fact, or they can let it just blow off. And
I'm not responsible for their actions based on how they react to something I say.
You can't that possible. You cannot put somebody's responsibility on somebody else.
Well he said so and so so, Okay, so it is responsible for
what they did and how they how they managed to deal with that information.
Okay, so then you got then you've got zero, right to complain when
it goes the other way as well, Right is that right? Well,
yeah, complain about anything. Oh okay, Well that's what I'm doing.
I'm telling you that I don't care how much you think it shouldn't influence people.
If you influence people, you've influenced them. That's not got nothing to
do with me either. But you know what you do. And people that
are out there and know that they have the ability to sway a crowd and
know that they have the ability to encourage other people to act, have a
responsibility to understand what it is they have encouraged. If you decide that you're
going to declare that certain people are the root of all evil, somebody might
say, you know what, I'm here to clear away evil, and they
might take it upon themselves to do things just so you understand that's something you
could possibly be encouraging that without your encouragement, they might not see it that
way. That's all I'm saying. And until people get that through their heads,
we're going to keep doing this and we're going to keep going round and
round. That's the way I see it, And I have a right to
say that, just like you have a right to say what you say,
Danny, you got any thoughts on this or you want to change the subject,
I'm gonna I'm gonna blow that off. I do think the words are
powerful, but I think it's stratified. I mean, those who have more
responsibility, they owe it to everybody to be responsible and choosing the words wisely.
You have free speech, but there's sometimes constant consequences. And that's pretty
much my thoughts on that. Yeah. Well, and that's the thing.
Freedom for your speech doesn't necessarily mean you're free from the effects of it.
And that's the thing about love. When people argue that it's you know,
oh, well, that's absolutism about freedom of speech. And you know what,
you can say anything at any time. But what about the person who
goes and said, you know what, these people need to be You know,
that's why they got rid of a lot of radio guys used to say
stuff like, you know, this person needs to be shot, and then
somebody goes and shoots at them. What do you say to that, Yeah,
you know, actually there are some people that need to be shot.
Well, you know, I agree with you, that's true. But is
it the responsible thing to go on a platform where you know, people are
influenced to act because quite frankly, otherwise, there's no purpose for the advertising
to exist where you know, a radio announcer says, hey, I eat
it this restaurant. It's great. Why would you bother to do that unless
you're going to have them influence people to maybe go eat at that restaurant.
That's the more benign side of it. But I mean when people are saying,
hey, you know, I think acts of violence should be committed against
certain people, well, you know what if they encourage somebody, then they
did. I'm just saying that's the way it cuts in my mind. But
okay, Danny, go ahead, you were going to blow that off and
move to something else, go for it. No, I just I just
I'm just really bothered by how in being competence, and I think it needs
to really be looked at because and I was also thinking too, maybe maybe
less people have tried because the mystique of the secret service that they're so you
know inpenant, you know, and you know they can't be you know,
there's like this wall. I mean, you're just kind of remind me of
all these failures that you know, there's probably a lot of incompetent people.
I mean, is a good place to work, is the high retention?
Is their turnover? Are they paid well? Are they psychologically balanced? I
mean I heard the head of the Secret Service talks and to me though,
that just reeked in confidence. If I was hurt and I gave those answers,
I would have done the honorable thing and resigned. Well, I think
that would have been you know, but then again, you're asking for honorable
actions out of a government employee. So yeah, I throw my hand at
uh, yeah exactly. I mean I would have resigned. I was,
like I said, it was a stain coulase in the position. There you
go. So, Danny, anything else you want to add, because I
want to get back around to spend kent before a h you got other callers.
I'll stay on and on, excellent, come back to me. I'll
try and come back around. Yeah, I'll try and come back around to
you, Danny, because this could get really interesting. And I'll tell you
one other thing if you want, you know something that's less than you know,
less inconfident than the Secret Service to my memory, I mean, maybe
things have changed in the past thirty years or so, but you know,
to my memory, the Nation of Islam when they were protecting uh, you
know, Tuty from the Facts of Life. When she came to speak at
my high school, uh, you know, on behalf of Jesse Jackson who
was running for president. Right, They were pretty rough on me getting anywhere
near Tuty and I didn't even know the chick was there. Kim Fields came
to my high school to speak, and you know, and you go,
I'm here to speak for Jesse Jackson and I'm and yeah, they were.
They were real happy at my school to see TOUTI but the Nation of Islam
a little rough on me. They slammed me up against the wall just when
I walked into the cafeteria because I don't know. I think it's because I
was white, but maybe not, maybe not. They seem to have things
well under control, and they protected Tuty really well that day. Just saying
anyways, with that, let's go back to spend Kent, Kent. You've
listened to all this as far as the I love it, as far as
the whole Trump thing goes, either they let it happen. This kid,
you know, Kirks, was their passy. Apparently he was in a black
Rock video I don't know if that's been debunked or not, but I saw
him up on the roof and other stuff. They were yelling to the cops.
And you know, I've seen a lot of different a whole bunch of
different things. So either they let it happen that kid was their passy,
or they're that incompetent to where not nine year old kid that plays call of
duty could have done a better job for sure. I mean, I guarant
damn t a nine year old kid that plays call of duty could have kept
Trump from getting shot. So there we go. That's so that's as far
as I go. We'll wait and see what more information comes out. Uh,
we'll start looking for you know, stay with the reliable sources as far
as the Republican National Convention goes. No, I catch miss bits and pieces
of it because, you know, people at work listen to it. My
dad text it out, so I've heard things in and out. It sounds
like hero worship. Obviously, this hero worship is on fire right now for
this guy. He's gonna win the election. He's already won it, Like
Chuck, you made that point earlier. I'm just trying to go over everything
real quick. Did you see how covid did did you see the guy did?
You shouldn't shoot at anybody if you disagree them with them, you know,
anybody who celebrates Trump or says missed him by that much like a get
smart dude. You shouldn't be doing that trying to configure everything else. And
then we can move on to another topic. Fair enough, guy covers it.
Did did you did you happen to catch hul Cogan? Though, I'm
wondering if you had any impressions about that if you saw it. Yeah,
I heard about it this morning from guy. I was at work, and
I don't, like I said, I try to avoid that that tropaganda hero
worship. I just thought, apparently he is on there, and I was
like, what did he say? What you're gonna do? What Trump?
Media runs well on you? And the dude that you know told me.
I was just laughing. I'm like, I can only imagine, man,
I know I didn't see it. I should really pull that up and play
that at the end of the show tonight. I think, see if that's
what he did, because that would be just perfect, you know. I
mean again, he's we were talking about that long time, you know,
earlier that they he definitely have TI has ties to wrestling, if they were
staging anything, you know that, you know, he knows the people helt
stage it. But I don't think that. I think this kid was probably
a patsy either that or you know, again, they were that incompetent.
My vote is in, like I said, nine year old kid that plays
Paul of Duty could have done a better job. My vote is in.
My vote is in competence. And this kid would have shot up something eventually,
and he just happened to pick going after Trump University instead of another school.
That's it. That's the way I see it. And uh yeah,
but it's in competence is what it is. And it's just a question.
Yeah. I saw the ladder too, like you were saying, there's two
of them. Apparently I heard also a top went up that ladder and went
back down. Well, one of the cops said that he went up there,
from what I under stand, and like you know, because he was
being told there's a guy up there. He goes up there, grabs the
edge of the building, pulls himself up and looks at the guy, and
the guy pointed the weapon at him. So he went back down and then
the shooting started. That's what was said. Now I don't know how true
it is. I just know that there was an account of that, so
because I don't see video of it, so I don't know for certain,
but yeah, go ahead. He actually was boosted up then that show up,
that call and they get hump off there. So okay, they went
to the lowest part of the roof. One cop boosted up the other one.
He was able to grab the roof. He pulled his head up above
the edge of the roof. That's when the guy turned towards a rifle and
then by that time, you know, the cop lets go of the edge
of the roof and drops eight feet to the ground. So well because practically
speaking, yeah, because practically speaking, if he's both his hands are on
the edge of the building, he can't draw a weapon, Kenny, So
he's got to get back out of the way. What part of all these
videos do we hear shooter on the roof, shooter on the roof, get
the president off stage? We don't. That's the whole thing, see,
And that's the thing that should have happened to about it. That's the thing
that should be that is The thing that should have happened right there is the
second that somebody saw there was any kind of commotion. Somebody should have said,
you know, grab Trump by the back of the head, push his
head down and surround him like they did, and get him out of there.
That's what should have happened, you know, regardless of whether he had
a weapon or anything else. If there's a commotion like that before the shots
were fired, that should have happened. Did not anyway, Sorry, go
ahead, Ken, Then shooter on a roof should have happened a minute or
two before. Yeah, apparently that video was at least a minute or two
long. When they saw the kid up there, you know, and uh,
they told some tops or whatever what you say, there's someone up on
the roof. At least, you know, don't think that they're not all
passed together with the you know, secret Service and everything. Yeah, you
know, automatically get them off stage. That never came there. We have
no video audio of any of that, which makes me wonder they're either that
incompetent to where a call of duty nine year old could do it better than
them, or that kid to Patsy well, I you know the fact that
they killed him pretty quick. It to me says this is something that happened
because the ball was dropped. Now, whether it was dropped on purpose or
not is my only question. Yeah, exactly, That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, So, anyways, is there anything else you want to cover or
should we move on? Can't up to you? Well, I guess we
got all that cover. The Republican National Conventions, I'd say this. So
it's and I've you know, I've been saying this for years. The whole
either I love Trump and hero worship Trump, or the oh I hate Trump,
let's take a pop shot, missed them by that much. Attitude that's
in America is just frankly disgusting and it's been going on. Look, if
you take Trump out, at the end of the day, the billionaires and
the donor class and the bankers, they always win because they own both parties.
Because of which one of these schmucks makes at the Clown or the corpse
weekend at Bernie's or you know, the game shows, the ruling class always
wins. It's just it's the system. Well, as far as calling somebody,
you know, hey, you're allowed to say whatever you want. That's
free speech. First Amendment. It's it's actual natural rights, because that's what
the Constitution was based off of natural rights, and we had a society tech
lived off the Constitution. We you know, followed the Constitution would be a
lot better. But natural rights, that's your path of freedom. You understand
that, and enforce those natural rights. You you don't need any of that
stuff, and you don't need rulers or masters. Yeah, there's the un
American American people are still gonna They're still used to being ruled and given consent
and of all the stuff that that in America today. We can blame it
on the powers that be. We can blame it on the politicians and the
powers be, all the big money guys. But really what you need to
blame it on is the American people. Go look in the mirror. You
gave them consent, you're letting them do this. Look in the mirror.
You're the ones to blame there, you go, Sorry, America, they're
going to vote for criminals in a in a corrupt system. You play stupid
games, you win stupid prizes. That's suspense. Yeah, no, sorry,
I cut you off there, but that is absolutely perfect. Cat.
You say what it is. I was thinking anyway, But the bottom line
is, as far as I'm concerned, you know, here we go and
look if there was suddenly lightning strikes and COVID wins over corpse whatever. You
know, when it comes to Biden and you know, Kamala disappears into a
void somewhere and all four of your top candidates are all gone, guess what's
not going to change the system? You know, even if all of those
people were immediately taken off of the playing field by acts of God, even
right, that would be an interesting time where it's like, what kind of
signal is this? We got lightning strikes and freakish things where people just vanished
somehow under secret service protection. You know what, The system will still be
here. But anyway, let's go back around to I think Jimmy James needs
to come back around before we're all done, and whoever else wants to call
in you can join us. Three one nine, five two seven five zero
one six. Let's get everybody back in if we can, and go back
to Jimmy again. Yeah, I wish you guys would be more specific.
You say, you say the system, Well, design that so we can
do something about it. These vagaries do not help. Vagaries do not help,
that's right. And the Secret Service, yeah, they've been Look,
I've never understood why the president is the standard chief. In my opinion,
he should be protected adult times by the marine cord. Which people's thoughts on
that, Well, I kind of like that idea, to be honest with
you, But that's just me because I think you would have people that would
be enthusiastic and well trained. The only problem is there, though you.
I don't know if you'd have people that could. I don't know how good
any marine I've ever met, I've never known one that knows how to think
and knows how to think on the fly in certain circumstances when things change,
I've never met one. Yeah. Actually, these people are very well trained.
They train how they fight, and they fight how they trained, They
train, how they fight, and they fight how they trained. They drill
drill, drill, Yes, and they big lumbering dudes, which is exactly
what you need for physical protection. And I just think it's a common sense
idea. And you had another cost saving idea, another one of these little
agencies that could be either dissolved or sent back to counterfeitting as LBJ put it.
Yeah, no problem there. But quick question though. Look, I
get all that, but when it comes to work this kind of security,
you do need to do more than just be able to fight, because you
have to be able to manage a lot of things. And I'm not saying
that there aren't marines that could, but I've never met any that could necessarily
handle, you know, all of the logistics. I mean, there could
be something where you have a core of people that handle security and all the
guys who do on the groundwork. No, I get what you're saying.
The Navy could do the logistics. You could have a few Navy guys.
Usually the CEO is gonna be a Navy dude, and the staff's gonna usually
be Navy. That's just too Now, that makes a bit of sense that
way, because handling logistics, and I've known Navy guys who understand how to
do that extremely well. People that handle stuff like transportation in the Navy outside
of you know, the boats, the guys that handle you know, actually
putting things together and moving assets around and things like that. Yeah, I
could see a combination of the Navy, but the guys who actually do the
bodywork would be marines. That would make sense to me, Jimmy perfectly.
Well, and they already do this work overseas, so it's not a real
stretch there they are, there's a group trained and you were talking numbers,
Well, my guy, who wouldn't be nothing to peel off a thousand of
these fellas to go to an area where the commander in chief's gonna be m
You know what, I have no argument with you here. Yeah, that
makes a lot of sense to me actually, And I think you'd have guys
who are purely dedicated to the job right away, you know, especially guys
who are and they and they're under the u c MG, which is pretty
nice as well. And that's the other thing about yeah, because you have
accountability that way, uh you know, and and yeah, the Universal Code
of Military Justice. And for people listening, yeah, no that What do
you think, b Pete, Does that make sense? Well? Yeah,
it makes sense. I mean it's you look at any time one of these
presidents goes overseas to where we've got troops stations, the military is responsible for
carrying that out. I think one problem is when you have the presidents show
up at the G seven or he's going to a state dinner in France,
or he's going to an event, the secret technically blends in better. You
could do that with a military attachment being a problem. They just be paying
closed and not in their military uniforms. But yeah, I don't see any
problem. You know, why have we got treasury agents looking after our president?
If you think about it, you know, you look at they pulled
Secret Service. There's still part of Treasury, yep, but they're under HS.
And that's I think where a lot of your problems come from. DHS
has got all of these elements from these other agencies that are now shoved under
that. It's another level of management the government piled on top, which means
you have to have a certain number of people in high paying jobs with fancy
titles that really are trying to you know, herd cats military take it over,
you know. Yeah, let the Marine Corps take care of our protection
for a president. I think that's the best move they could make. Yeah.
My counter to your thing about you know the Marine Corps guys might not
blend in is that I know that that is easily easily handled because they do
intelligence training in a couple of places where they specifically teach these guys in the
military to do guess what blend in right they actually, yeah, got a
militaristic you know, you've got some you've got something the military is run in
the country. You know, it looks like some of these Central American UH
dictators who you know automatically put on the uniform and that's their standard mode of
dress. Look at Kadafi, you know, you know he was, He's
head of his military. So it's just an impression. It's a visible thing
that could be covered. Yeah, at all with putting a Marine Corps in
charge of their security. In fact, I think there's probably the smartest move
that can make right now. No, Jimmy, I agree with you.
Smart solution actually, and like you said, cost saving measurement measure and all
that. Absolutely, But remember when they did the whole people were freaking out
about jade Helm. I had to point out to them that, you know
what military intelligence operations are conducted again, you know, in civilian towns all
the time. Actually, that's how they train. They actually trained to blend
into places where they really don't belong, and they teach them to do that
specifically for this kind of work. So I'm thinking it's just a matter of
Okay, so a little more training for some of these Marine Corps guys who
were already well trained at other things. So why not add to their training
this military intelligence training along with the Marine Corps training? Right? Or Am
I missing something here? That's about it? And all of us were uh
you know, I mean, BP knows this. We all learned basic so
called police and techniques like crowd control and all that garbage. So I'm just
saying, yeah, the Marines would be way ahead on all this, and
they're capable and they get the numbers. Makes sense for me. Mm No,
fair enough, I got I got a private Skype message, And no,
I would not say that you put the Air Force in charge of anything
except maybe the planes, Okay, that's it. Other than that, they're
even I've known some the police in the UH in the Air Force, and
I just I would have no confidence in them doing anything. Okay, So
no, no, not Air Force Marines. I think Jimmy picked exactly the
right the right branch of the military, so to speak. And they're already
under the name anyway. Uh So you know the idea that if they had
enable officers to handle you know, other concerns and they were doing the real
you know, the grunt work, the body work. That's what they do.
So I don't know the Navy in time of war if they're an independent
operation at all other times mm hmm okay, Well, as far as I
know, though, the Marines were created under the Navy, weren't they or
or yea, they were. They're the Navy's army is basically what it comes
down to. But they they only come under I mean yes, when you
look at the Marine Corps. In fact, you know then when they were
talking about their armed forces day and the and the four, well five now
because we've got space force to add to it. Six if you add the
coast Guard, which is nothing. Coast guard comes under treasure. Yeah,
I'm wondering how all this stuff got stuck under treasury our presidential security and are
in the coast Guard. That makes sense to me whatsoever. But yeah,
in time four Marines come under jurisdiction of the Navy. That can get them
in a gallon of fight. The Marine's always the Marines always fall under the
Navy. It's the coast Guard that during war falls under the Navy. Otherwise
they're under the Department of Transportation. H that's interesting. Well, the reason
why so many things are under treasury is because I think that's the priority in
this country, is treasury. Anyway, maybe that's just me. Let's go
back to Danny real quick, and then I think I'll probably open up all
the lines after I let BP get in a final word, and then we'll
get on out of here, because it's already past ten pm, and I
know we've killed more than two hours here or we're just about to kill two
hours here on the show. So, Danny, anything you want to add
here. Yeah, it's the Marine Courts NBC security group. They've already uh
provide security for about one hundred embassies throughout the world, and I had a
buddy that ended up doing that, so that would be a great idea.
Just don't send me the drill sergeants. Well there you go. I don't
think a drill sergeant would be required for presidential protection. But yeah, yeah,
I got you, Okay, But yeah, they already provide security in
many embassies. I know that, you know, and it just it makes
sense group. Yeah, yeah, but look, there would be nothing to
creating another elite group out of guys who are already trained hard. You know,
you make it one of those Look, these guys, you know,
they're happy to ascend and to be invited into elite groups. There's there's certain
guys that are just there to do you know, their time, right,
and then there's other guys that want to be part of something bigger and special.
Sorry, go ahead, up with an independent seal team to handle it.
No. Look, man, if you want to simple, just okay,
we got Seal Team one through ten. All right, Seal Team eleven.
Your job is presidential security from the day to day, and we're gonna
put enough guys on that team that we can rotate you out and we've got
things covered. It'd be a huge group, but it'd be very easy to
set up. We do away with DHS and put people back under the agencies
that they're supposed to operate under, and get rid of that extra layer of
governmental bull crap and maybe you you know, get people to follow some orders
that might be it. Oh, I got weeny dogs erupting in the other
room. So sorry, guys here embarking. Yeah, no, no,
no, I absolutely agree, So Danny, anything else you want to throw
in, No, just everything's going fine on my end. We got a
lot of our family, got a lot of birthdays. I got an anniversary
coming up this year. It will be forty three years married to the same
woman. We've got grandchildren's that have birthday as a daughter. We've got a
lot of things going with the family. So things are good. I'm busy,
true, everybody's good. I'm blessed. Missus. Oh's birthday is Monday,
just for everybody. Oh, so you know that's that's the Monday coming
up. And I have no idea what I'm gonna do, by the way,
but we'll see what happened. Yeah, I thought I I've tried to
get out of an anniversary get My wife was looking on I think it was
trying when she was looking at a showerhead and I go, hey, did
you get that shower head? And she said no, no, go I
thought that was gonna be our anniversary gift. But she just smiled, You're
gonna get your wife a shower head for an anniversary gift? Well that's what
she was getting. Here. Here's how it works for me, and I'm
really lucky is usually my wife will pick something that she really wants, it's
pricey, and she will tell me this is birthday, anniversary, Christmas gift,
and I'm like buy it. So it just takes me off the hook.
So yeah, I gotta try that. That's well, I can't do
pricey, but maybe I can do something cheaper or want it and that when
it's for my birthday or bite by whatever you want for my birth I don't
want to get you get yourself something. Yeah, My answer is real simple.
When my birthday comes and goes, I'm pretty much like you know,
I'm not used to getting presents anyway. So whatever you do or don't do,
it's okay. You know, that's fine exactly. Yeah. So yeah,
she's uh, I'm not going to tell you what what age she's going
to become on the twenty second. Yeah, yeah, happy Kim. That's
great. There you go, There you go. So I'll let everybody know
that you guys all wish your happy birthday. At least Danny in California did,
speaking of that. Yeah, tomorrow, I think we're gonna go up
to Mary's. So I think it's around nature Boys Country. My wife was
saying something, but it's a peach blossom festivals she wants me to take her
to. So nice I think I think that's where Nature boys from in that
area something like that. I gotta check with him, but yeah, Peach,
I'll mention Peach Blossom Festival to him. Maybe he'll tell me, Oh,
that's right down the street from me. I don't know, uh,
but yeah, I think I think I've pretty mentioned these from that area.
And that's that's about an hour and hour and ten minutes where I'm located.
So oh, there you go, too far. There you go. They
got what they got the cherry blossom festival here in Georgia, but I don't
remember when the hell that is or anything. Uh Okay, So anyway,
I'm gonna put you on hold, but I'm gonna probably trying to turn the
line loose again in a few minutes here and just turn everybody loose, maybe
right at the end, but b Pete, want to give you some room
here, anything you want to add here at the end of the show.
Well, it's been an interesting week. We've got what the Democrats are holding
their convention in August. I believe is that right? Is anybody going to
watch that? I think people are going to be watching it just for the
just to see how bad Biden blows things when he has to get up there
and stand for more than ten minutes. I think that's why you some speech
go ninety minutes, so that he could show everybody that, you know,
he had the stamina to be able to do the job. Wait a minute,
when did you say their convention is I'm sorry, let me interrupt you
for a second. When is it? I thought it was in August?
Yeah, okay, but it's not like August first, right, No,
it's like the twenty second or something. Let me see okay, because he,
you know, since he tested positive for COVID, I'm saying to myself,
oh, maybe he'll get out of the appearance at the convention, right
that they can put him on a monitor and they could make a couple of
takes of a tape, you know. And no, well, dad Gummant,
you would think the date would come right up. Let's see, yeah,
you would think. Let me let me see you. I'll put my
search on there. Idia, Let's see your schedule for August nineteenth through twenty
second. Okay, So he's gotten like a month before that, all right,
so he's got time to test negative at least. I pop open my
browser and I'm staring at sergeant's laughter. Still, so go ahead. Sorry,
Well, I'm going to say he's not worried about the COVID thing.
I mean, there's footage out there after they announced that he had footage or
that he had COVID. He was there getting ready to board the plane and
all stand around talking with people with no mask. He went to a Mexican
restaurant called all over their food and you know, so, I don't think
they're worried about the COVID deal. I'm wondering if he's going to turn into
long COVID to give him an excuse to step down for medical reasons. Oh
boy, doesn't have to be batshit crazy. Well, has anybody caught a
picture of him lately? Is he wearing a mask now to protect everybody around
him? Is that? Is that happening his way back to Delaware they made
the announcement that he couldn't There was some convention he was supposed to go to
and speak. He had to cancel them out. He was heading back to
Delaware. They got footage of him get ready to get on the plane,
stand around with all his staff. Nobody had a mask on. He didn't
have a mask on. But I guess you know, he's had enough vaccines
that and he had COVID before, so maybe the mask isn't you know,
an important thing right now. It's funny how everything changes after a year.
It is funny because I remember him starting to make a statement still with the
mask hanging from his ear the one day, and I'm going, what the
hell, dude. I could not stand there. I would be like,
what is this annoying thing I might ear? How is he even doing that?
Anyway, So weekend at Bernie's coming up on the nineteenth of August,
Huh, okay, great, Uh, it's gonna look for the effect.
People are gonna be watching him to see how bad it's gonna be, because
you know, you've got to You've got to go for four days promoting the
one guy that nobody wants in that position. So it's gonna be interesting to
see how they handle that. Yeah, But still, like you said,
I don't think he's gonna give up his delegates. I do not get how
these guys somehow think that he's gonna suddenly turn around and give it up,
because, like you said, if they give him enough money to give it
up, that's the only thing that Joe Biden is worried about. That's what
he's been doing since he was vice president. He was preparing for the future,
so he started banking as much money as he could with this little paid
to play scheme. And now the money has dried up. So what's he
gonna do. They're gonna it's gonna call. They're gonna have to pay him
off to get him to drop. Well, you know the only thing that
worries about his money. Once in a lifetime opportunity I would cash into.
Why not you know, do that? Write your pardons out and step out,
you know what I mean. Just get it done, because it's not
like he's gonna win. Okay, it's just that simple. You can't even
rig this and convince somebody that's real. So come on. This is the
theory that I've read. The reason that they're going about what they're doing at
the moment is this Biden's poll numbers. And this is theory. I've heard
several people discuss it. The last election, Biden's poll numbers were enough that
when they pulled off the election, and they pulled it off, play and
simple. When it got pulled off, people believe the outcome there's no Are
you gonna tell me that Biden got more votes than Hillary or Obama? There's
no way. No, Well, more votes in Hillary, yes, Obama
No, impossible. Well, but what they're saying now is his poll numbers
are so bad that when they pull the rig on this election, nobody's gonna
believe it. Nobody will believe that he's won this next election, no matter
what the outcome is. There's just no way because he's pulling so badly.
If they can get him to step down and Kamala comes in, Kamala's pulling
up there with Trump, so they can pull the rig and people will believe
it because of the popularity beforehand, So they can't. They can't pull the
steel this time with Biden in place. No one would believe it. That's
the predicament that they're facing. Now. There you have it, So I
guess we'll leave it at that. And you know, like I said,
we're over the two hour mark. There is no Aaron Franz tonight, no
Uncles night. So I guess I'm gonna close this one out, and I'm
gonna bring the callers back on, I guess, and invite a little chaos.
Why not and just see what happens, because yeah, I'm pretty much
done here. I mean it's past ten and I got other things to do.
I'm sure b Pete has other things to do, maybe yard work tomorrow
or something like that, and we'll just get her done. So phone lines
are open, but I'm merely o'celly. All of you are indeed the effect,
and these guys are The lines are open and they can say something they
want, the spent effect. There we go, the spent effects, and
anybody else wants to speak up, go ahead. It's good to hear from
VPT. I haven't talked to you a long time, my brother. There
you go, great show tonight, thus far guys, So there you go.
And that's a lot of good knowledge man, and thus far guess what
it's all done. So yeah, I'm mere le ocelly. All of you
are indeed the effect be well, and I hope nobody shoots at you.
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