Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, cats and dogs. This is another
episode of ninety four feet podcast, Your Boy Bigseeking the building. I'm here,
my brother Dre. It's good everybody. Always great to be back with
y'all. I'm also hearing my brother Keithy. Good. Good people. It's
a pleasure to be in the building to day. Yeah, this is the
second week of UH of the n b A and we are here. It
was so enthusiasm that we can't control ourselves. As you can see, I'm
very ecstatic. Injury report, there isn't one. I wanted you to read
that no significant injuries. There isn't one those significant injuries this week. Hey
man, don't come in here trying to police how I'm saying you are.
There are no injuries to report, so we should be happy. There is
one that just came across my feed, but I'll wait till next week.
McCullen, Uh, mccull What does he play for this week? This week?
This week he gets traded a lot. It's is the first time he's
been traded. He played for the Pelicans. He played for Portland for his
whole career and then traded to Repelicans. Wasn't there a trading between there?
Y'all? Sure, y'are always one hundred percent sure it would be nine percent
wrong, But I just want to put that up. Well, then look
it up. Then what's his injury? Say, something something happened with is
long. I don't know one hundred percent sure it's it's like a disease type
situation. And those are always those are already always irritating just because sometimes those
be you can't play ball no more. So I hope wish for the best
for him. Yeah, mcc shout to McCall. Another grim news starting to
shoot around segment. Uh the all time one of the all time greats n
C Double A coaches, Bobby Knight, has passed away this week. He
was eighty three years old. A little fun fact, uh, Night with
the last coach to go undefeated have an undefeated season. So rip rest in
paradise for Bobby Knight and his family and condolences to his family. Something I
should have spoke on last week, but I didn't be like that. Sometimes.
After nineteen seasons in the NBA, andre Iagodala has decided to retire.
He's a four time NBA champ and he's the twenty fifteen NBA Finals MVP with
the infamous Well he was on the other end of a chased down block from
Lebron James. That won them the series depends on who you ask us,
right, most likely Keys, he'll tell you that won them the series.
But let's need to hear no there, so shout out to him. Uh.
With that being said, two questions. One is he a first ballot
Hall of Famer who andre Igudala? No, I'm sorry what you said.
He's not first ballot first ballot. I don't know about first ballot. He'll
be a future Hall of Famer though, but you wow, okay, go
ahead, you wouldn't you want to expound on that or you just I mean,
Dolls had a decent career, but at the same time, he hasn't
had a superstar career, you know what I mean If that makes sense.
I mean, he had a great career, but he didn't have a superstar
Hall of Famer automatic career. I guess my thing when you say that though
this think about that number one. We know, but then again, stars,
not only superstars go to Hall of Fame. But I think about it,
I think he's had a good enough career to be a first ballot Hall
of Famer. I think he has a first because compared to other people who
were our first ballot home Hall of Famers, I think that he did what
he was supposed to do. It just been on who in that class that's
going in with him. I'll get that. So Iggy is not a first
ballot Hall of Famer? Is he a Hall of Famer? Absolutely? Iggy
had a really good career. We're not gonna say great. He had a
really good career. He had a really great situation with the Golden State Warriors.
I give Iggy credit because he was Golden State's first big free agent signing,
right. That was one of their first acquisitions when you start talking about
the new Golden State Warriors. But if you look at Iggy's career stats,
they're not that great. They're average at best. To His highest scoring season
was seven to eight. He averaged nineteen point nine points a game and he
averaged roughly five rebounds a game and four assists a game. That was statistically
his best year overall in terms of points and things. And then he had
another good season nine ten. I still question them giving him that Finals MVP
it should have went to Steph. But because he was on Lebron, he
was coined the Lebron Stopper, right because they beat Lebron and they gave him
that MVP. Defensively, he did stop Lebron, but if you don't get
Steph's offense, you don't win that title. But what's done is done,
So Iggy is certainly a Hall of Famer, first ballot questionable. Iggy will
go down as one of the greatest role players to ever play the game,
but he didn't change the game. When I think about first ballot Hall of
Famers, I think about people that changed the game or brought a certain level
of excitement to the game. He's good, but Iggy's not first ballot.
So let me ask you this. Then he's a great role player. Because
I've seen a debate one day, I was just gonna go into that.
That's what brought this discussion up. Was to me was to me he was
our first ballot Hall of Famer. But I know what you're talking about.
On Gilli's podcast called Gill's Arena, they were having a discussion about who's better
Iggy or Kawhi Leonard, and it started off with I forgot his name.
I can't think of his name, Stephen Jackson. No, it's it was,
I can't think of his name. He gotta dog dog and ms mckamts.
Why is why is this even a question? This is a question watching
not a question. This is here's my thing, here's my thing. Why
is it a question Kawhi or andre because we had a better career, That's
what they were debating about. Why is that a question? Because if you
asked, if you compare the two, you sure you want to do that?
Right now? Here's my thing about these two? Yeah, yeah,
right, let's do it, okay, because I'm looking at some I'm looking
at a side by side right now. Now. These are accolades. NBA
Championship he has four, Kawhid has two, clearly, uh but Kawhi has
twelve season he has nineteen. Oh I really got like seven because he didn't
play well. Well, that's on him. But my thing about that is,
I mean when you talk about his his accolades like first NBA team,
first real quick, real quick is dre? Was he a top seventy five?
Who andre ig Dolla? No? Was Kawhi at top seventy five?
No? You sure I don't remember. I don't think he is okay because
he was hurt too much during that time. He was hurt. Double check.
My thing about this is when you compare, let's go, we compare
statistics. Kawhi's stats are better than his? Are they percentage? This is
percentage. Iggy's is forty six, Qua's forty nine, three point range,
Iggy's thirty three leonards, thirty eight free throw seventy, He's eighty, Kawha's
eighty five. Kawhi averaged more points than him. He is on there,
Yeah, average more rebounds than him. Uh, he's averaged more blocks than
him. So let me a better defensive players. No comparison. So I
think that I really wanted to play the clip. But but my only issue
is what that is. Kawhi came into a great situation which helped him develop
a little bit faster. Iggy went to the Warriors. Later on, it
was Kawhi was drafted. Though he was drafted. Can I finish getting on
what I was saying? Go ahead, out your interruptions, go ahead and
cover for him, Lebron. I'm not covering for him. I'm just speaking
speaking, speaking facts speaking Kawhi came into a great situation with Tim Duncan and
Tony Parker and man Je them three. There was three automatic Hall of famers
when he came there, they was automatically gonna be Hall of Famers. He
was drafted. The only person Iggy came into was who Yeah I sent Yeah,
I cent in Philly. He went when he came had I in Philly,
Phillye we finished. I'm not gonna bet you can you can you feeling
When Iggy came to Philly, Iverson was on his way out the door.
They played four or five seasons together. They were like two. They played
one two seasons, one season together, and then they gave the keys to
Iggy. Remember, yeah, what I'm saying like Irison season together. Iris
was on his way out because Iggy got drafted high. Yeah was like twelve.
No, I'm serious. I think it's I don't know what it was.
I just feel like I'm gonna play this clip. Y'all looked that up.
I'll played this clip dollars better than Kawhi Leonard to me when we're don't
talk about the defense the series before he gets Kevin Durant, you gotta whooped
Kevin Durnt was bopping hiss. Do not sit here and use his defense as
like he dominated defensive. He got molly wopped with that first year that you're
doing. H you're around round by. I mean, if that's what you
want to, that's what you want to go. And what happened after that?
And what happened after that? Okay, nobody wants to after that.
I'm telling you this. If you're you and you gave me thirty two a
game, fifty from the field, fifty from three, and then the papers
is going around saying, man, you stop. Brandon Jenning's what is your
face? We lost no stock? Your face like this? You're gonna say
this? He was barbecue chicken. Well I want to go. I want
him to guard me every game. Yeah, your team is better than mine,
but you defensively barbecue chip. So what has happened? What has happened
since? I don't agree with a lot that Gilbert Arena says, why not
because he's a clown In most cases like that, Yanni's hate is too much
for me. What yes he does? I don't say he hat. I
think that he speaks a lot of He said the things that people don't want
to really say, says the things we whisper in Milwaukee. So the things
that I say, I'm a hater, but because he says it, it's
true. Okay, but you just said he talks a bunch of nothings,
So that means you're talking a bunch of nothing because you just said he said
and then he hated hard when all the time he's not a superstar. No,
he said something about his basketball IQ, which I've said many times.
But anyway, back to your question. They paid two and a half seasons
together. He played in Philly, Eric Snow. He had a bunch of
other players that came after that. When he signed with nobody who played with
Can anybody Iggy Dollald compare to hear? I think about what nobody who about
good Dollar play with can compare to the players that Kawhi played with, Steph
Curry, who was a hole in the wall step about in the beginning of
their careers. So so so why first three years he had Tim Duncan,
Tony Parker Man, Sean Elliott. He was the new guy. So so
so he's at fault because he was drafted. No, I'm not saying he's
at fault, but I'm saying, when you compare the two, they're in
two different situations. That don't matter. Y'all asked the question. You asked
the question. You can't say, well, it's two different and Iggy was
more athletic than me. So here's what I'm gonna tell you, and I'll
leave it at this. If I'm picking a player, I'm picking Kawhi.
Is he gonna play a lot less? Absolutely, that doesn't mean Iggy didn't
have a good career, But Kawhi Leonard statistically is a better player. Offensively,
is a better player defensively? Is a better player. Now, what
I will say is I Q for the game. Giggy might get a notch.
It could be coaching in a year two, he'll probably get Golden State
with Steve kirk Walks. So what if you look at their first three years?
Who was better Kawahi by a lot? Oh? No, you first
three years? Five? Their first three season? Feel like Iggy who had
a better first five years? Today? Here here's Iggy stats. Oh four
oh five he averaged in points uh he averaged nine points, five rebound,
five point seven rebounds, three assists. Year two twelve point three points uh
five point nine assists, three point one rebounds. Uh second season or third
season eighteen points, five point seven assists, five point seven rebounds. Right,
So that's that's Iggy. So I'll say this hold second hold, give
you Kawhi hold on their best two seasons. Kawhi bestie was twenty twenty.
That was his best season. Uh, Iggy best season was twenty eight,
was two thousand and eight. Kawhi average twenty seven. He averaged nineteen.
And let's not forget Kawhi came in many years later. Kawhi came in twenty
eleven. Yeah, he came in twenty oh four. Okay, so Kawhi
Leonard, Okay, his average points here. Let's see. But you're you're
comparing you when you can what you're looking at is apple and oranges? No,
because you asked the question. What I'm looking at is the question that
you ask The question I asked was now the Kesey's point, I'm gonna ask
he answer question. The first three seasons, I had a better better statistic
points and rebounds those first three seasons, but after that there was no catching
Kawhi. Those first three seasons, Kawhi averaged his first year off the bench
seven point nine one assists, five rebounds. Second season eleven points, six
rebound, one point, six assists, and then he went up twelve points.
But after that, Kawhi blows him out the water statistically every single season.
But here's the here's a problem with basketball. And I get it.
It makes for great talk, it makes for great TV. We can't just
appreciate that they're both were good to their team. We can't appreciate that.
I say, hold up, we have to say who was better because that's
what we do. That's what we do. So at the end of the
day, but that's straticlarly, that's what they did their job. Who's better
mister Douglas or so and so. So we're gonna package over there. We're
gonna pick with the Douglas because he's he's better. So what I'm saying is
Iggy had a good career. He will be a Hall of Famer. But
y'all saying that first ballot I don't think he is. There's a lot of
first ballot people that are probably better than him that's not in it yet.
I don't know. I will say I was Like I said before, it
depends on his class. But I think he's a first ballot Hall of Famer.
I don't see why he wouldn't be when you have guys like to me.
To me, Iggy falls in that category of Robert Or. Was he
first ballot? I think he was first ballot. He falls in that category.
Uh right, Yeah, I know what's gonna have four no matter how
you got him, he has four. Iggy, he contribute, hentribute.
I'm saying. That's what I'm saying, Like I'm y'all saying he not a
first battle That's what I was like. Really, I think he's a first
ballot Hall of Famer to me because because he may not be the star,
but he contributes to your team and he can. He's contributed to all four
of those championships. And according unless I'm reading it wrong, Robert Or is
not even in the Hall of Fame. I felt he was. He's not
even in the Hall of Fame. He's in the Alabama Sports Hall of Fame,
but he's not in the Basketball Hall of Fame. Double check on man.
But and here's why they say, Robert Or, although he has seven
championships, his career does not scream Hall of Fame. He's one of the
greatest role players in NBA history. The Hall of Fame isn't solely based on
numbers. But ain't you the one who said Andre Doland had a I said
he had a good career, a good, good role player. And he
asked, is he first ballot? I said, he's so, I'm telling
him, I'm telling him to listen. Yeah, so he is not first
ballot, and according to this he might. He might not be All of
Famer at all. If they're judging Robert Or, who has seven rings and
they call him big shot rob to now, let Sports America here, According
to what I'm reading, the only Hall of Fame that Robert Or is for
all my fact checkers out there, he is only in the Alabama Sports Hall
of Fame in twenty ten. See to me, that's a tragedy. He
is not in the Hall of Fame. Had seven championships and he's not in
the Hall of Fame. So if you're telling me that Iggy is a first
ballot Hall of Famer for his mediocre role player career, then I question,
it's not low. He did have it. He was a mediocre role player.
I happened to stop Lebron thing. Either, He's good or he's mediocre,
he's good. Five, he's good. Are you taking Robert or are
you taking Iggy? I'll take Egy. I'm taking big shot rob I'm taking
because you know what all them big shots translated into what seven titles. Yeah,
that's what I'm saying, like we should be we should be more shocked
than he's not in the Hall of Fame. But man, Yeahbert, nothing
shocked me because you never heard his name until a big shot. You know
who else had big shots? Steve Kerr, John Packs hold on second time,
I talk about time about Tony Parker is in the Hall of Fame.
He's one of the greatest foreign players to ever played the game. Come on,
Baron Davis is in the Hall of Fame. Tony Parker had a ten
year stretch where you can guard him, especially with the mid range pick a
roll with Duncan. He was unguardable. He was in a system. Stop
it. He's an assistem. Is he top ten? Top ten? What
point guards all time? Possibly? Who park Yes? All time? He's
on the top seventy five. I didn't ask you that. I said is
he top ten all time? To you? To you, I'll just say
this to you, is he top ten point guard of all time for the
era? Listen, I have to answer it. No, you could have
tap dance around, he said, yes, and no, hold up?
Is he top ten all time? And since I've been watching basketball and the
Earth, I'm zeke. You gotta let me answer it with myself because you
from nineteen ninety to present. I started watching ball in nineteen ninety when I
could understand the game. From nineteen ninety to present, Yes, he's a
top ten. See when you see when you have that terminology, when you
when you put when you where you're putting it right now? Because I know
what you're doing, so when you put it right now? So I mean
Oscar Robberson throwing out the window? No, because you thought you said from
you thought him out the windows? Ball playing ninety Chris Paul, Chris Paul's
top ten point guards? I said, Chris Paul the top ten. But
who had a better career? Well, well, well, Chris Paul will
have better stats when it's all said and done. Did y'all see his stat
recently? In six games, he only has six turnovers and fifty four assists.
Yeah, zero points, but you don't need them for that. But
the point, my point is that my point is this though, like I
just asked, was he in your top ten? And I know he's nineteen
ninety to president, Yes, I've never seen him play. Is not I
have never seen him play. I've never people that are in my top ten.
I got at number seventeen on list I know. That's why I asked,
y'all, park Parker, who's above them? Who's above them? And
here's how this argument started is because he thinks Iggy deserves Hall of Fame over
Tony Parker. No, I say, I think he deserves to be in
the Hall of Fame. Walf Fraser, Walt Fraser, Yeah, Okay,
what's the book? Okay? You average triple double? Gary Payton yeah.
Jason Kidd, Yes, he can beat out tone because I don't even know
him. Steve Nash No, yes, absolutely not. John Yes, yes,
Chris Paul yes, Isaiah Thomas yes. Jerry West yes, doctor Jerry
West. Yes, you lay out falls. You didn't see him play,
but he's the logo. Didn't see him play. He's the logo, But
you didn't see him play. When we're going home to be with the Lord
and our kids and our nieces are still and our kids are still wearing George's
You know what they're gonna say, Michael Jordan was the greatest player to ever
play, because they're still wearing the shoes going on what you said. Yeah,
in some cases, but he's the logo Steph Curry. Clearly, I
don't know that he's a shooting gun. Definitely, he's a shooting gun.
So Tony Parker top twenty of all time, Okay, I said top ten.
Kyrie Irving should be there, top twenty five. But anyway, Iggy
had a Hall of Fame. Let me say this. If I had a
vote between Iggy and Kawhi and there was one spot left in the Hall of
Fame, He's not getting that spot. That's how I'll say it. He
had a good season, as he had a good career as a role player.
I feel like we talked about the Hall of Fame situation. I feel
like a lot of people who get into the Hall of Fame, in my
opinion, shouldn't be there. Like oh, you keep saying that, Like
who, I don't know. If the talk of my hair, I don't
know. I'm not gonna put my foot in my mouth like some other people.
Well, because you said Baron Davis is in the Hall of Fame.
I don't know if he's in the Hall of Fame, but Davis, she
should be in the top twenty eight guards, maybe the knees to top twenty
five. My thing is this, I just feel like he should be in
the Hall of Fame. First ball the Hall of Famer. I think he
had the career. I think the championship solidified it. When he was in
Philadelphia, he was he was a one man show. So I feel like,
oh, Iggy, I feel like he needs to be in the Hall
of Fame. I'm not saying that he's not. I think Vince Carter is
in the Hall of Fame, so like, don't, I just don't.
I just feel like he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. Will
question you asked, was what was her first ballot? And we say yes,
y'all say no, I say yes, or we'll move on. Talk
to us. Ninety four feet. I'm sorry, keys Is Andre Igga,
Iago Dolla a first ballot Hall of Famer. Yeah. Tag us on Twitter
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y'all this listening and let us know how you feel. Is Iggy a first
ballot Hall of Famer? And why don't just say yes? You gotta give
the why and we'll read some of your responses on the air next week or
if we get him this week. I'm sorry, go ahead, bro.
Oh but you said Vince Carter or you said something about the Gills Show.
No, he asked, who's on the Gill Show? It is Chris Christ
James, it's Uh Jennings, the guy who the guy shot him can and
Kendy Martin, Kenya Martin. Speaking of Martin, keeping it a little too
real, yea, now I want to talk about it. Remind me of
Stephen Jackson, like borderline angry. He don't care. No, Keny Martin
is I'm gonna spit. I'm gonna split the truth regardless. Yeah, I
don't care. So here's my thing. Speaking of Kenya Martin, his son
was a part of the most recent trade. I just want to I'm gonna
speak on that after I'll say this. But this past week, James Harden
was traded finally traded to the Los Angeles Clippers along with PJ. Tucker and
flip some guy somebody, dude, I'm not even gonna try. Uh.
In exchange in Philadelphia seventy six years acquired Marcus Morris, H Nicholas Batua,
the Batoon, and then Robert Covington kJ Martin in a twenty twenty eight unprotected
first round pick, two second round picks, a pick swap, and a
first round pick from a third team that hasn't been announced. Yeah, it
should be announced, but I don't know what it is. I just want
to say this before you continue. I'm gonna share this out on our pages
and I'm gonna share it with you all. Just at a first glance,
just at the first glance of the Hall of Fame of some of the NBA
players, there's not a lot of role players in this thing that, like
you say, shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame. There's not a lot
of role players in here. Now you hold up. Now, you may
see some names that you may not know, because remember the Hall of Fame.
Hold up, it's not just NBA, it's basketball period. But a
lot of these NBA player names you see are not role players. I just
want you to know that while you're making the case for Iggy. No,
and here's my thing, because I was gonna let his die and let it
be No, we can we can't. I'm yeah, yeah, bring it
back. Like Chris Mullet, for example, he wasn't a role player.
He was a star for Golden State. Right. Is he a Hall of
Famer in your eyes? Yes? Or no? Okay? Does he have
championships? I just want to know, No, No, no champions How
many people are in the Hall of Fame from the NBA? Man, hundred,
I'm gonna send you all this players, hundreds, you know, But
I think it'd be dope for us to dive in. And we're gonna dive
in. We're gonna dive in. Matter of fact, next week, let's
see what happens. But we're gonna talk about people who do not do not,
in your opinion, deserve to be in the Hall of Fame from the
NBA, from the NBA. We will talk about it next week. But
onto this trade. So kJ Martin, real quick, So kJ Martin,
which is the son of Kenyam Martin. He talked about trades, and he
talked about trades affecting your family and how its business. He got he got
emotional talking about it, which I thought was very interesting because it made it
reminded me of the Drew Holliday trade. I'm gonna say, I've seen missus
hollow Day when it happened with Missus Holliday, when she talked about it,
and she talked about it how and people talk about it in general, how
you don't think people don't think of it as a business even though it's a
business move. And the way these players find out it's so messed up when
they actually talk about it. But it just reminded me, like he got
emotional talking about how you know, he had to tell like he had to
tell his wife, His wife got emotional. He was emotional, OKJ was
emotional when he was talking about it as far as like him getting traded because
he loved being uh in La. So it's just one of them things where
I'm just like, wow, it just it just it just hit a little
differently. I mean, we'll go and when we talk about the Bucks talk,
we'll kind of, you know, talk about how Drew I don't think
he was dead wrong, but when you come down to it, like what's
the what's the right way and what's the wrong way to approach the trade.
I know, but should there be it Should it be strictly business? Should
you have the courtesy call somebody up like, hey, just want to let
you know, matter of fact, in this trade, Danny Green got released
from Philadelphia. He said, I had literally unpacked ninety percent of my stuff.
Maury called him, was like, hey, I know you unpack it
right now, but uh, you might want to put that stuff back.
So so let me just say this to that point. Who's he called Danny
Green? He was like, I'm ninety percent unpacked and and I get this
phone call like, hey, I just want to let you know there was
a trade, and you will. So it just so happened. They we
have X amount of players on the team. You're the extra man. We're
gonna release you. So here here's the thing. But they usually he usually
they usually don't do that. But I just want to focus right now.
I just want to focus on the trade. Shrew Holliday got traded in church,
so I don't want to hear that they don't do that. He got
traded in worship. He said, he got He said he was laying down
something like that. I was the first trade. The second trade, happened
while the man was in church, because I know because I walked to him
and his wife in church. Please, we don't need this stuff for us.
I'm not Stunn, but you're questioning if it's true or not. He
was literally in church when he got traded to the Boston Celtics, was literally
in church. But to answer your so are you asking us a two part
questions? No, I was gonna focus on James Harden trade. Oh geez,
I feel bad for the Clippers. Really, yeah, continue because he's
the fourth team now that he's done that, he's bullied his way too.
He's bullied his way to every single team except the Houston Rockets, and he's
done nothing with none of those teams. So good luck to the Clippers and
that culture of my way or the highway. You have a Kawhi Leonard who
barely plays. You have a Paul George that you are often called playoff p
who does not close in the finals. You got Russell Westbrook, who I
think people are hard on for no reason, overly hard on, overly hard
on Westbrook, and now you're adding James Harden to the mix. I'm gonna
say this, like I said about my books that I'm sure. I can't
wait till we talk about Los Angeles Clippers championship or bust no excuses, and
you're not beating Denver, you're not beating Golden State. And Harden did he
even re sign an extension right away? Or is he gonna be available next
season? Yeah, that's try, that's whack to me. I'm so tired
of James Harden. I'm so tired of it because he does the same thing.
How many super You know how we dogged Lebron and KD for Superstars?
How many does he need? He's now, let's talk about James Harden.
He couldn't get it done in Okay. See he had Russy, No,
no, no, my moment, but I love it. He had Russy,
he had k D. He had Abaca or Shabaka as you like to
say, all in their pride, all in their prime did. He went
to Houston, he had mellow right, he had Chris Paul kez right,
he had some hitters in Houston. Couldn't get it done, bullet his way
out of Houston and went to where Brooklyn? Was it Brooklyn? He had
Katie again, he had Kyrie again. They didn't even play twenty games and
he was out of there bullet his way to Philly. He had Embiid,
he had Tarby's MAXI not a superstar, but a great role player, right?
A great role player? Is he not? He had Joe l Embiid.
He had a winning formula in Philly and couldn't get it done either.
Now he's going to the Clippers with a half injured Kawhi, occasional injured Paul
George and with some would say a six or seventh man in Westbrook? What
is different about this Clippers situation than any other team he's been, other than
it being on the West Coast. I'm done because I don't like it.
I just like it. It burns. You do this because when you do
this, you talk about cause you talk about set them on fire, he
said, biscuits. I me on fire because when you talk about these superstars
that James Harden had, did not do you not do it to Lebron?
Do you not do it to Lebron? Lebron is different? You know it
is? That's number one? Did you not do it to KD? You
do with KD? Is James Harden not a top shooting guard to ever play
this game. Yes, Can I finish them? Can I finish you finish
dictor? My think about it is this number one. Okay, don't count.
He's young, you don't count. Don't tell me you had Russell Westbrook
and k D. They was they were drafted there, don't tell me.
But I don't care about that. Had KD and Brooklyn? Get for me?
So and then you want to talk about where do he go out there?
He went to Houston. Houston that was prime James Harden back. He
went back to back MVP but scoring titles. He was the man back then.
And Houston he can he was a one man showing Houston. I'll give
you that. I don't even think he really had like who he had.
He had a nice squad over there, and he was by hisself. He
couldn't get it done. Fine, I'll give you that. He went to
Brooklyn. Brooklyn was a mess. Let's just let's hey, Brooklyn was a
mess. Let's just call a spade a spade. Did actually there I'm saying
it was a mess? Yes or no? Was it a mess? For
whatever reason? It was a mess. It was a mess. Now he's
in Philly. That being in Philadelphia probably was his best case scenario. Now,
well second best compared to Houston. I think about Philly, and bad
is not the guy we think he is. I'll just put that out there
and leave that alone. But him him been in that situation, then he
went to So now he's in the Los Angeles Clippers. Do I think they're
gonna win a championship? No? Do I think they go they going all
in? Yes? I think they are because I think Kawhi and Paul George
on their last year they carrich contracts to either got a year or two.
I think that I didn't even get to the question before you start reading the
stats. All let me finish, because what you're talking about is where you're
talking about. You read, you start reading stats off all the players he
had in Houston. You said said it was a one man show. That's
a lie, My Mirid, that's a prime Chris Paul. He had no
prime Chris Paul. You know what prime Chris Paul was Prime Chris. It
was a New Orleans Hall and the Clipper. That's when prime Chris Paul was.
Because when Chris Paul was in Houston, he was getting bounced around because
his attitude. Don't tell me that he was prime Chris Paul still did he
have does he have one of the come across some guys that were that our
first battle Hall of Famers? Yes, he has come across some. But
these are you talking about? Man? He had a chance to win a
championship with these people. He did not because he was coming across the seventy
three and nine Golden State Warrior. Don't act like they wasn't running the floor.
Don't act like King James wasn't doing anything. He had to come across
the mountains. And the fact that I have to sit here and get loud
for James Harden because I really don't like him. You sure, but you
sure? I'm not gonna sit here and act like he didn't do his thing.
Houston was probably his best case. Scenaris is a problem. Is he
a problem in the locker room in f ast Does he have a problem with
management? Yes? I agree with you one hundred percent. But when you
talk about man, James Harden had four chances to win a championship. He
did not know. He did not. He did not stop it. Stop
it man, Stop it man. Because it's only one player in this league.
It's only one player in his league, who can take a team to
the championship at least on a consecutive basis, whatever consistent basis, Thank you
English professor. Who was his name? It's one player that's not his name?
I think it is what's what's his name? Thank you? King.
James is the only player they can do that. Even Steph needed some associates.
What side of this argument are you on when it comes to James Harden.
James Harden has had some decent rosters. You when you compare his rosters
to some of the rosters that some of the other superstars walked into and made
it happen or or or even made it even somewhat successful. Every situation he's
been in, he just disappears when it when it comes to crunch time playoff
time. So I'm putting it on him as far as why he don't have
a championship, because he's been in some situations where he could have got one,
but because he's James Harden, and James Harden likes to get lost when
the playoff time comes, that is the problem. So he can't blame nobody
else for why he's not winning. He got to put the he gotta take
accountability for some of the things that he didn't do as part of it,
as a part of the deal. Because in Philly he was putting on the
show when the B was out. That's facts B come. He just sits
back and just watches them lose. That doesn't make any sense to me.
You've got to be the same person you are whether he's there or not.
Like you said, and B, they who we all think he is.
Let me ask you a question real quick. Why do y'all keep saying that
he's not. I mean, he's good. He's good, there's no doubt
about that. But is not a He's really not a game changer to me.
But he's not a game change. He's not a team No. I
think he's He's only reason he's top five as far as position is so is
it is very It's very like who else we're gonna pick. It's very who
else we're gonna pick. Technically, I think Cat has a better game than
him. Now we're just getting out a better game. I can't count on
Cat. I can't count on Cat. Why I can't count on Cat?
Because he is to Uh, Cat can shoot, but that's a word for
it. But that's his problem. But Cat can shoot better, Cat can
dribble better. He can't. He can't handle the Cat got a better handle
the pain. You know what. Okay, let me we we're gonna dive
into this real quick. Because when we talk about because we talking about James
Harden, I just kicked you. Really, my thing is about James.
I'm not James Harden. I think about m B is U versus Cat and
B versus Cat. I feel like and Bid has honed in on his game
better than Cat. Cat feels kind of feel like he all over the place.
I feel like Kat want to shoot the three. He want to,
but you know what it is with me, with me and Kat, you
seven foot, but I feel like you're still scared. The post up a
little soft now and b ain't as soft. But I just felt he a
little soft, like he want to play like Joker, but his skill won't
let him. I just feel like That's why I just feel like about Towns
and I great. I feel like he like when he said stuff like I'm
the greatest shooting center ever and because he won the three point contest, like
all right, relax, So it's just one of the things that like I
just don't feel like they measure up. He's one of the greatest. He's
the greatest shooting center ever. He won the three point contest. I said,
center forward, look, look you and stuff and don't don't don't do
that because Stephan change your position. I did. But most because every time
you say, every time you say that to somebody that's seven foot that played
powerful, you like he's a center. Anthony Davis a power, says Anthony
Davis is a power for But you'd be like he's a center, he says.
You do. You've been you've been coining, you've been prophesigning, and
step has been a shooting guard since he's been in the game. I mean,
as you're asking, anybody will tell you they're wrong. The point guard
that happens to Michael Jordan said that anyways. Well then, so back to
the trader, all right, back to the trailer, back to the trade.
We should have talked about that, but we did. But back to
the trade. My thing is, do you feel like keys Let me ask
you this question. Dre feels like hardness has the fourteens he's been on,
he's had every opportunity to win a championship. I said, he had one.
He said four. What do you think he has? Who has that
many opportunities? James harden Well, the fourteens has been on. I said
he has one champion, he had one opportunity winning championship? Do you feel
like he had four? Or do you what is your And I want to
answer that to you said for it, but but you didn't give the whole
speech. But break it down. He went to the finals with with Okay,
I'll give him two and a half. Two and a half, what's
the half that season with Okay, see when they lost to Lebron and in
the finals. Okay, so that's the that's the that's the half, the
half. What's the two? Brooklyn? Brooklyn? Everybody was calling them the
championship, the champion, played the game and Philly because they had the role
players that he needed. He just he just refused, Okay, I'll give
you that. I'll give you three. I won't say that Houston is a
championship team. But he had a roster. Don't act like he had.
Lebron, don't act like he had and Tim Thomas. I didn't say they
were bumps like Keason said about Cleveland. I'm saying that his that was prime
James Harden. James Harden was coming into his own. He was really killing
the league. That step back was crazy and we they might know how to
defend, they don't know how to defend it. So I'm saying that I
think he I think he had the one opportunity winning championship. Now I will
agree with you. And when you talk about Brooklyn, you're right. They
were the big three. They had, they were the favorites. But like
I said before, it was a lot of chaos in that lot. There
was a lot of chaos in that on that organization all together. Now,
whether regardless of how it went down, it still went down how it went
down. My thing is with the James Harden thing real quick because the air
because so Philip Philadelphia has MAXI and MBI. I'm gonna say something. I
don't know if you're gonna agree with this or that Maxie is not as good
as the everybody think he is. Is that what you think? I think
that. I think that for sure finished. Let me finish. I think
that if you if you put James Hart out there, if you put in
bad out there, he can hide, he can hide, he can drop
twenty without you really paying attention to him. Is he part of it?
Was he part of that three that you had to Yeah, but he's the
he's the third option, so it's cool for him to sneak a quick twenty
eight, twenty five, sixteen on you be like, damn, where are
they coming from? And he getting he getting buckets at key times, but
your main focus is James Harden and Embid, so that now that James Harden
is gone, it's really on MAXI. Well, I don't think he's as
good. I don't think he's a superstar. I'll say that, I don't
think he's a superstar. I don't think he brings the same attention that James
Harden breaks. Well, I don't think anyone is comparing that. But I
also think that he is one of the better young talents and learn the game.
But here's the thing, we'll see it in a minute anyway, because
Ebad's out of there Philly pretty much when they traded hard and they embraced that
they're rebuilding. I don't think they're rebuilding. Oh when EMBD is out of
there? Oh yeah, when Lee, But I'm saying I don't think o,
no, oh, I agree with you. So I think I said
this on Twitter or I said this in the group chat. Once James Harden
got traded, this solidified and he was gone. He's out of there.
He's there, and for your sake and be if you ever listen to this
podcast, John out, don't go to the Knicks. I want him to
go to Knicks. He can go to a team and win the title.
He can go to a team. Uh No, I think and B don't.
He's at a point in his career now where he's gonna want to win
the title. He's gonna go to a stacked team too, guarantee. How
long do you think it's for he requested the trade, I would say all
Star break. I don't think he's gonna make it to the All Star Break.
I think he's gonna wait his girl career. I mean he's gonna wait
his contract though. Did he sign already. Is he in the middle of
his big contractor I think a big one. I think he is. I
don't think he'll request the trade. I think he'll wait his contract out.
I don't know, man, I don't know. Because you know you're gonna
play for Team USA next year. They're gonna get the talking and once you
come over here, man, once you come over there. Man. You
know what I'm saying, because right now, as fart as his cab,
everybody's getting teams together to try to beat Denver. I don't think the only
undefeated team left in the n b A WINSOA. The only team that's under
is Boston, and Boston the only one left. You're right, they did
lose one. You are correct. They lost the who Minnesota, but they
destroyed everybody else. Yeah, but they lose to Minnesota shooting. Didn't say
that Anthony. Anthony Edwards ain't no joke. He was a problem for them
here, a real problem for the man. But that's how it is.
So everybody every team about that kryptonite, like the Bugs losing to Toronto.
Yeah, Toronto, they got number think we're gonna talk. We're gonna talk
about that and Bucks talk. Uh. The next thing I don't want to
talk about is the end season tournament started this past week, started to no
Friday, I'm sorry Friday dij games. First of all, yes, how
did you feel watching the games? I was distracted by the hideous floors,
and we're gonna get into it. I was distracted by the hideous forts,
the floors. I like the floors. I like the city Jerseys. I
was like, oh, I'm lit. I'm like, this is lit.
I was distracted, but I was more. It was funny to me when
they were interviewing players and they all were like, well, we don't really
know what's going on. But Dane who said Dane said it, Dude from
Indiana said it. They were like, well, we don't really know what's
going on. We just know we're here and we're playing for some type of
cup. I don't know if they were being facetious or being smart behind,
but yeah, I mean I liked the idea because it makes for competitive basketball
year round. It does. I didn't at first. I didn't like look
at it like that. But I was like, I was like, this
is interesting. I don't know why it was interesting. I don't know why
we uh was so against it that first? I know, why could we
didn't? We didn't understand it. I still don't understand it. Well.
Richard Jefferson played that. He did a joke and we did we did the
breakdown, and I don't know, it's like right now, it's just it
just it had it had a different feel on Friday had a different feel.
The games we played on Tuesday and Fridays with that team's introduced new floors and
they also entered. They were playing in their city, their city jerseys,
and we're waiting for a producer. But I think I think the thing about
it is that it was just a different feeling. At first, I didn't
get there. I was like, this is gonna be stupid, but people
are are eager to play. What's his name, Halibert. Hallibert said the
winner of the end season tournam should get automatic playoff bed. I was like,
I'm messing with that. Do you think that sounds right? I think
they did something right because these you're talking to millionaires right now, and so
give them another hundred an extra five hundred thous I'm like, that's cool.
That just show me y'all got the NBA has money the blow. That's all
that is showing me the NBA has money to blow. We're gonna give all
y'all extra five hundred thous on such and such a second and a trick and
a free trip to Vegas because we're trying to see when we get a new
team there, how it's gonna look Lebron shack own it. So I just
feel like that's what that's about. We're still so an't we ready for you?
Brian? I don't think y'all is gonna do anything. Well. But
the one thing about the tournament that again I watched the Bucks game and I
can't believe we only beat the Knicks by five, but the players were really
into it. Like but again, I'm not gonna just say that for the
tournament because these records do matter. Okay, So we finally got it up.
So man, we got these uh, we got these floors and I
got this this picture for two reasons. First, I want you to tell
me what was what you think was the best looking floor. Let's start there.
And then I'm gonna get into who are your pick? Who are your
picks for each group? So so I'll let you gentlemen, Well I'll start
it off. I think my first question is who pays for these floors?
The tickets to high tickets business? He was they didn't put these floors in
for what for? What? What you mean for the season? Tournament?
That's how you know it's season is what they called it? Priday God,
but yeah, this is the end season tournament floors. So each time we
have an well, first of all, this is a lot of work.
This is a lot of work for every Tuesday, every Friday. If I
worked as a form, I'll be mad. Well and keep in minds well,
hey, it's a it's a world of not want to work people,
so right, and keep in mind, I have been I think Casey may
have did it one year with me. I have been at the fier for
him for a Marquette game that ended at four and a Bucks game that started
at six. Did you watch them take the floor up and put it You
have to leave. You have to leave because you got to get rescanned with
your new ticket. Literally, they have to put up all the Marquette stuff,
take down all the NBA stuff, put in the whole new floor,
replace the benches. It is not something that you can just do quickly.
In fact, they put they pushed that game back an hour or two because
they didn't have enough time because the Marquette game went into overtime. They have
enough time to even get ready for the game. Be good this year anyways,
So I'm ready at when you are architect, the favorite, my favorite?
What's your favorite floor? The Bucks because it actually looks like a basketball
floor. You can still see the horrorwood. Really, yes, you can
still see the hardwood. And I also I don't mind the I don't mind
the sea, the one in the corner there in the Seaston, Boston,
and Boston's okay too because you can see some hardwood. All them other ones
look like really bad cartoons. Really, yes, I'm dig in the different
floors. Chicago, Miami, Portland, UH, Indiana was cool, the
Bucks. I think the Bucks had one of the best floors. Atlanta,
So I was digging the different floors. I think that was Memphis. Memphis
had that like that dark blue floor. So like I'm digging the different floor
that was the thing to me. Are okay really, Boston is probably the
best looking one to me. But at the end of the day, it
it's a lot of wasted money, not a wasted money. And floors is
not cheap, I know what I'm saying. Waste the money, waste money.
Removable and removable floors that come back together really ain't cheap. In the
labor it costs to put them back and forth ain't cheap. So I figured
you just play the games on the floors that you already have watch right,
just paint a little cup on the floor and say in season tournament like making
a part of the original floor. Right. Come on, the NBA is
trying to be different and creative here. I mean, I gotta give Adam
Silver credit. Man. Adam Silver has elevated and evolved the game of basketball.
He has done some more stuff. Let's get crazy here. The playing
tournament. So who's in the league right now? Nobody can as everybody hasn't
played. The first game was on Friday, and then the next one's are
on Tuesday. Sol has to play in tournament. The Kobe Bryant tribute.
He's made the game even more global, the donating to HBCUs. Here's my
thing about that. The n n C and tournament the highest labor markets in
the history of the sport. Do not take away what Adam Silver has done
for the game of basketball. Can thank you something you like? You like
chicken? It's okay, I prefer baked, but it's okay. Thank you?
Do you like? Do you like chick? So if I really save
you some chicken, would you eat it? Because I seen what you with
that book? Would you were to take a from the point in the good.
No, there's no point if it's some picking save I'm gonna take the
chicken, thank you, Walt Chicken O God, nothing from that point.
You know what, You're the wrong person. I ask, ever, so
you use a wrong person. I didn't even think about it. You was
the wrong person. To the point I'm making, is this do I take
away with Adam Silber did for the league? No, but it's not hard
to sell. Its very bro. We were so critical of the playing tournament.
Yeah, we were so critical of of this this season turnament. What
what did you just say two minutes ago? I was like, it's still
basketball. Don't get it twisted just because you just because you're flowering the chicken
different way, it's still chicken. Chicken is It's not make real, not
ride however you hip it. It's still chicken. What I would say about
this end season tournament, I would have preferred it to happen in the off
season. I don't like that. I mean they playing offseason anyway? They
played oh that unrelated basketball to Yeah, but no, which is it?
So? Which is you like? I just said, I like, uh,
I didn't like Boston you going football? I like the Bucks. I
like the Miami heat. Uh, Memphis kind of stuck out. The red
stuck. It was different if you have a different floor. There's five of
them that are red. What do you mean it's different? One three four
Bucks, Boston got the best floor to period. I said Miami ball.
I said in Miami the Bucks. New Orleans is cool. New Orleans is
cool. Okay, see what's smooth? Seventy six ers? Yeah, look
Bland, So that's I mean, I'm messing with them. Uh, Denver,
Denver was smooth. Dinfers was smooth. That five to eight zero.
If you don't that that was smooth. I was like, okay, cool.
So those were what was interesting to me. But now we have this
thing up here. We have West A, we have West B, we
have West C, we have East A, East B, and East C.
Pick a winner. It's too soon. I can't pick a winner too
soon. No, I just need what do you mean to soon? Why
you say it's too soon? This is the nd season tournament were but we're
only six games in the season. The more tournament games to play. I
know that a month I'm going with I'm going with the nd season tournament winners.
Denver Nuggets, Yes, No, I'm saying each group. I said
each group. So West A, I'm going with barely see that if you
pull on your phone, do you know what you want? I'm not going
I'm going with Denver to winner. Who just wants to depict who we think?
Yeah? Who are who you think? Because I'm looking, so check
it out, I'll look, I'll break it down there. I'll break it
down like this. I got you say the books. No, I'm not
the winner, the whole thing. I'm talking about each group. Group A.
Group A is Los Angeles, Memphis, UH, Phoenix, Portland and
Utah. Wait is it the land you said? Group A is the Lakers
group as is West A. It's the Los Angeles Lakers, Memphis Grizzlies,
Phoenix Sons, Portland Trail Blazers, and the Utah Jazz Phoenix Lakers. I'm
going, Uh, I'm going Lakers in that group. I'm going Lakers,
that group, the Lakers. I'm going Lakers. In West B. We
have Dallas, Denver, Houston clip Clippers, and we have the New Orleans
Pelicans Denver, I'm going Denver, going Dallas, going Dallas. Really because
Luca and and Kin we fit the style of that playing tournament style play.
Kyrie has only played maybe two games a season, just so you know he's
been he's been on the shelf a little bit low key. Didn't beat them
close. No, it wasn't that close. It got close. They cut
it to like hey, they cut it to, but the game wasn't close.
Anything for Luca bro anything for Lucauco can win that. I think Luca
game win it. No, it's a little different than winning the championship.
So West c is Golden State olda composer. Uh go to state Minnesota,
Francisco. Okay, see by San Francisco. They don't go by San Francisco.
They city Jersey, say San Francisco. Their city Jersey, San Francisco,
Francis. I'm not calling them san Francisco nothing. Okay. See who's
Sacramento, Oh, Sacramento, And who's the other team, san Antonio,
Sacrado. I'm going San Antonio. I'm going Sack. I'm going San Antonio
in San Francisco, Sack, you want Sacramento. Uh. On the East,
we got Atlanta, Cleveland, Detroit, Indiana. In the seventy six
ers, I'm gonna go Philly. You got the Atlanta Hawks, Cleveland Cavaliers,
Detroit, Indiana and the seventy six ers. I'm going seventy six.
I'm born in Atlanta. I'm going in Atlanta to meat the Bucks one time.
Relaxed. No, I'm not saying because I like them. I'm just
saying Atlanta is a sleeper team in the East. They're a sleeper team.
They are all around a good ball club. I think that I don't think
that that's what they are in game six or seven and we have not made
it the game twenty to twenty five. People have a little fresher legs at
the moment. But once we get to twenty and twenty five, you won't
even hear Atlanta's name. You won't hear Atlanta. You won't hear Cleveland because,
oh boy, be going to Donovan Mitchell there. So y'all going,
y'all? Who y'all going for East A for Group A? And I'm going
Philly. Who you going with? Dre? I said Atlanta, You're going
to Atlanta and East B Group we have Charlotte, Miami, Milwaukee, New
York and the Wizards, the Wizards Milwaukee, Milwaukee. I'm going to Milwaukee
too, say New York and show losing effort. Though bruhuh Randall is a
terrible teammates. I've been saying that. But anyways, uh East C last
group. We got Boston, Brooklyn, Chicago, Orlando, Magic in the
Toronto Raptors, Boston for the sweep Boston, Really, are you just saying
stuff? I think so you're just saying stuff, But I don't think Boston
is gonna really be too worried about that. Let me tell you that hard.
Let me take you because Boston really won't revenge. Let me tell you
something about Boston. They might get it. We'll talk about that later though,
they might get it. Another thing we do on a yearly basis is
talk about the NBA City jerseys. The the NBA City jerseys we dropped that.
They dropped these this year. I don't know if you guys had a
chance to take a look at him, but I was pleasantly surprised, and
I was presently pleasantly. Hey, I was, I'll say surprised because usually
I don't like city jerseys, but they they were pretty good this year.
So we're gonna get into that. To me, guy, what you guys
think, I don't really where jerseys wait, we all don't. We're adults.
But look at these jerseys and tell me what do you think was the
best or the worst? The best is Boston, the worst is the Kings.
But I also like New York's because it looks like you said the worst
was the Kings. I also like New York. I'm sorry, I like
the Nets is the worst? Oh my god, what a hideous jersey you
don't like. I do not like the Nets. Nine color jersey I do
not. Indies is sharp, but you know I liked It's very different.
New York's looks like a normal basketball jersey. I would you said you like
Brooklyn's. No, I don't like Yeah, I don't like the Nets.
No, I don't like the Nets, and I don't like the Kings.
I'm going with I'm I'm the Washington Wizards as my top choice. I like
the Washington Wizards and I like the Minnesota Timberwolves. Those are the two I
like war jerseys. I would buy those two from the City Edstrict I liked
too. Okay, so usually all these jerseys have stories behind them. Yeah,
there's a picture of them. I liked the Milwaukee Bucks jersey and you
really yeah you really can't see it in the picture, but the story behind
it. I did like the story behind it is that that the excitement in
the that was showcased when we did win the NBA Championship in the Deer District.
So what they did was if you take a like a photo from way
way back, and you just see dots, and that's what the blue suposed
to represent, is supposed to represent the Deer District. So I thought that
was a really good story. I was like, oh, okay. Now
I'm a little biased, obviously, but I thought we had probably, if
not the best Jersey top five. Now I do will say I like Indiana's
because they came real different. I don't hate I don't hate Brooklyn's. I
thought, I don't hate it, but you know, it's all I ain't
gonna lie. I like Toronto's. Will go nice with some Tims, it
go it's some jays, they go nice with it. Yeah, And then
there's something but the drop in the December, the one I don't understand that
looks I ain't gonna say, I don't understand, but it's the basicest one
to me. It's probably is that Denver up there in the top right corner.
Yeah, the numbers on itfty to eighty. You know whatfty two eighty
stand for? Fifty two eighty is, Oh my god, that's hold on
that because I just because I was I didn't get it at first. I
was like, what is the point of this? Fifty two eighty the fifty
No fifty so fifty two eighties. So fifty two eighties stands for uh the
what is it? The I'm gonna get this word wrong. Antitude five and
eighty feet the altitude, the altitude, that's what it stands for. I
was like, oh, okay, when you put it in words like that,
I'm really that's what they put on their jersey. They put on the
altitude is probably put no weed on there. Probably they put it on there.
No, no, no, no, why would they put them it's
legal? Why would they put that on there. This is a second week
in a row. You just be coming out, You just to be saying
stuff, it's legal there. This is the first last week it was And
I was up there. Now is this literally saying stuff? No second waking
around? It's legal there? And the NBA doesn't test for marijuana anymore,
and then yeah, doesn't test for weed anymore. How would that be in
a Jersey Why wouldn't it They have this for kidstruct selves? Right? Not
everything in the NBA does for kids, Not everything a sponsor Hennessy. Right,
it's fact right now, Jersey. I didn't like Golden State, do
better, Los Angeles, Los Ange's Lakers do better? And then Memphis?
All right, do better? Did they have a gun on theirs? Memphis,
which is the m e m the only team to not win a game?
They need morant. I ain't gonna hold you. It's between it's right
next to the Lakers. Yeah, I think so Lakers is the one next
to the Memphis. It's trash. I know. That's why I put it
in the group chat. So CJ. Mccullu has been diagnosed with a color
blax. Long that will, that will that will sit you down for the
rest of the year and possibly for the racial career. Uh, that's all.
I was gonna bring it up next week. But thank you for putting
it out down. I know, but that's what I'm saying. I said
that an injury. Fort's don't worry about you said something with his long class.
I know, I said, I dig it up next week. I
said I bring it up next week. Well it's different than us make that
was something we should have brought up, by the way, I send my
prayers to that brother man, And we said, I know, I'm just
sending them again, man, because we didn't know what it was we did,
I didn't know what it was. That's bring it up next week.
But ladies and gentlemen, anyway, I know it's five o'clock before we get
up out of here to what we really came here for. What Bucks talk.
It's still early, but I'm just gonna ask a general question. How
you feeling about the Bucks right now and their defensive waes. I mean,
is this gonna hold them back? Or is it too early to tell?
So I said it yesterday. Let me find the comments so I can read
it verbatim because I want to get it's it's never too early to start wondering
about your team and if they're ready, look at the Green Bay Packers are
at the beginning of the season. So this is what I say. In
another sports circle, someone said, and I quote, Milwaukee Bucks fans are
calling for Adrian Griffin to be fired four games into the twenty three to twenty
four season. I responded simply by saying, I haven't heard this, but
I didn't think he was the one from the beginning. You said that,
I did. I say, However, what we're seeing and missing is not
having the best two way guard in the league on our team. Dame is
awesome, but we will miss Holiday's defense. So what we're seeing right now,
to me is two parts a coach that's trying to figure it out and
a team that's trying to figure it out. Because Giannis and Dame, I
would like to see more pick and roll I don't see a whole lot of
pick and roll action there. I would like to see more comfortableness of them
playing together. I think they're playing too passive with each other right Like you'll
see yannas the ball and he'll kick it out and vice versa. But we
will never replace the defensive of a jew Holiday because there's nobody on the Bucks
outside of Gianni's. Giannis is the exception that can play defense at a level
of Holiday. So the Bucks need to figure out how to be a better
defensive. So do you think this is do you think this is a situation
where this is we're looking for an identity still, or do you think this
is a situation where it'll it'll eventually get better. I think it's new.
I'm gonna say that. Do you think I think it's new? Yes,
I think it gets better. But we're still going to miss that defensive that's
obvious. Can we move on from that? But it's true, we can't
move on. Get mad of it? Why do you want us to move
on? Why do you want us to move on from it? Because it's
what's happening now, you know, because he came and me, like we
were talking about Lebron. Okay, you could respond that way if it was
Lebron, but you can't respond that way to the home team, which we're
all be I don't think he came aggressive. He just said, hey,
okay, go ahead, Yeah, slip on your track. So we're gonna
move on. All I was saying was we have a new situation. Why
keep harboring over what? We don't have anymore time to move on and figure
out what's next for us? Are I'm not concerned. I'm not concerned.
We want me tell you, why go ahead? Because we're only in game
six and some discombobulation is as a part of the process. That's how you
figure it out. So you said it because the Wizards, I mean the
Wizards, we know they I mean the Warriors didn't all of a sudden start
winning games. It took time. It's a process, right the first season,
they didn't win seventy two games that year. It was next year.
So it's a process. Even though they won a championship the year before.
So the Bucks are going to lose games. It's some figuring out. There's
some learning. I got a question, it's some experiments going on right now.
It's a lot of experiment going on in the Bucks organization or roster.
So nobody solidified their spot outside of Janni's Dame in Brook the middle Middleton,
Middleton. So here's why I'm going to say, I hear you what I
call bull because the Boston Celtics are in the same situation and they're five and
oh and they're destroying teams. Who have they beat? They're five and oh,
they beat the it doesn't matter. They put up one hundred and fifty
five against the Pacers, one hundred and fifty five. Who it doesn't matter.
It's an NBA team. You put up one hundred and fifty five points.
They beat the Brooklyn nets by ten. Okay, so look at this.
They beat up, They beat the Wizard, they beat the Heat the
first game of the season, they beat New York Julius Randall. We all
just got them talking about us, and they got and they got an undersized
point guard. But the Bucks lost to Atlanta and the Raptors. So what's
your point? Can I finish fish? Let me get it out. They
beat a hobble Miami, they beat a discombobulated Wizards. They put it an
unknown indie team, and they beat a discombobulated next team. They ain't playing
nobody yet. Here's my question. They got They got Anthony Edwards next,
they got Joel Embiid after that. So my question for you is this key
is my question for you. When they play somebody and beat somebody, I'll
take it serious. With the Lakers. With the Lakers, just yes,
king about you know what I'm saying to you said, if they beat somebody,
Are you talking about the Lakers? No, I'm talking about like them
all right. Bus beat Philly by one. Milwaukee hold saying allkright, fine,
here's the thing talking about Philly. Okay, check this out real quick.
Philly four and one right now, we beat them. I know,
I get it real quick. My thing is this, if we don't,
If we don't, here's the thing. I don't want to be ten and
ten and then start talking about this. I don't want to be five and
fifteen and start talking about it. We're looking because here's the thing. We
talked about this before when the trade happened. We're expecting what championship or bust.
That's why you go get Dame now here. Here's what here's the thing
we're missing. We have we have two categories, two different point guards.
We have an all around point guard who in the playoff time tends to disappear.
He tends to shrink the holiday. He tends to shrink. Yes he
does, he does quick. Here's the thing he tends the shrink. He
does. Dame under two minutes is Dame time. We're hitting the watch and
they clutch butter. We've seen it. We've seen it so twice this season
already. So my thing is this, what is what's gonna get us this
championship? A defense? And we got a hobble Middleton right now or b
here's the thing. I'm gonna get there in a second because Dre said something.
I was like, nah, but then I was like, yeah,
I don't know if we won this all around, because the thing that got
us to the championship that then there's been always our thing is defense. It's
that's been our our identity. Hey, Drew's gonna lock up the point guard
situation, and all we have to worry about is everything else. Now.
The thing about it is, I think injuries called up to us and we
haven't been. We been. We like our bill was rocked last year with
the Miami Heat. It was rocked, but Miami went all the way to
the NBA Finals. They was rocking everybody's bill. So that's the one time
thing we was like, hey man, Budd gotta get out of here.
Like you said, I don't know if I think I said this too.
I don't know if Bud should have been fired right away because look what we
got. Look where we're at. We lost two games. We called we
was at the we was at Atlanta game. We was at the Atlanta game.
It was a bad shooting game. It was a bad shooting game.
But also I'll played this. We didn't even breathe hard around uh Trey.
That's every time, every time bought the ball to the floor. Somebody Trey
is fast, and Trey always towards us, even when they're losing, tortured
us. And then we lost to a team that's been having our number for
the last ten years. I don't usually I don't usually do this, but
Slaughter has a good point. Celtics has the same coach and system as last
year. The Bucks have a new coach, a new system, and a
new franchise player. Don't forget when the Heat, Lebron Wave Bosh got together,
they started nine and eight. So we're not disagreeing with I'm not disagreeing.
What I'm saying is this last year. We saw it early. We
was like, you said it, the Bucks don't have it. You said
it last year. You was like, the Bucks don't have it. You
said last year, we're losing the teams we should be beating. By the
time we was like, told Joe, we had already lost Miami. So
my thing is this, we need to say something now. And if Griffin
don't see this All Star break, who else can we get a coach here?
I told you last year, but a game by game ten, I
said, the Bucks don't look like the Bucks who are gonna win a championship.
I called it out. Yeah, this year is different, and the
only reason I see is different. You get a championship feeling for Milwaukee this
year. Even though we lost those two games. We're not losing games because
because we're like Scrubby. We lost those two games. We shot horribly.
This is what I say. We shot rec So here's my thing about it
was at one point when me and Dre looked at the thing, what it
say, twelve percent eleven of twelve percent that come on, Dame Lelard in
that game didn't score the first three quarters. But you know why hold you
know why Atlanta put a bigger guard on him. Dame is not a small
Bucks are small. Dame is not Steph Curry. Steph Curry can get his
own shot, no problem. Leave him up there on island, Dame.
You gotta set some screens. He pulled off from you know, half court
you're not expecting, and so on and so forth. I just see that,
I see a problem. I see a problem, and to be honest
with you, I'm worried. And the fact that we're five games in and
I'm worried right now gives me concern for the rest of the season. I'm
just worried about you. Then worry because I'm not. So let me say
this. So let's get that. Let's I'm not I'm not that understood.
I'm not dre. I don't know a lot of people. I'm not inside
the organization all of the people. I'm a fan. I'm a fan.
I'm a normal fan that sits up in the bleachers time. I'm telling a
normal fan that's concerned. I'm telling you right now what we're good with Giannis
and Brook back there. Damn don't got to be the best defender. So
so I'm gonna say Brook had eight blocks the last game we was at.
I'm gonna say this, i am not worried about Milwaukee. Worry is a
big word. That's a concern, but go ahead. But I am concerned
because here's why I'm gonna use your own logic against you. We ain't played
nobody, man. We haven't played Boston, who are the real threat to
the Bucks champions ship aspirations. We haven't played Phoenix. We haven't played Denver
right, who's six and one and are destroying teams right. We haven't played
these new little Clippers. Yet right there are teams right now where the Bucks
should be winning. But again it's early. We'll go to a lot of
games this season. We got a lot of games to still see. I
wish we could go to November twenty second game Boston. That's in Boston,
isn't it. Did you hear what I just said? I wish. Oh,
I'm gonna say, let me see y'all want to go. I'm not
going to Boston. Ticket I don't need to be I don't need to be
called the N word in my faces. The contract they got, you know
what they tickets. We thought our tickets was hot. That Golden State,
ay roll man, man, that's more than a go. That's Golden State,
the Bulls, Lakers, the Bucks. So there's no need to ring
the alarm. But next week, by the end of Thanksgiving break when we
recorded again, the Bucks will be about fifteen to twenty games in Well.
I mean this is this is a continuous conversation we'll be having all year.
Now. I'm just asking right now, are you concerned? I'm not.
Are you concerned or are you concerned? Worried? Too early to call?
He's built for the long call. I am not worried, but I am
watching. Let me just say that answer the question. I did answer the
question. No, you did you have to answer around. No, I'm
not I'm say not worried. I'm not worried, he said, I'm not
worried, but I'm watching. I'm watching like it's almost like I got my
eye on you. You ever been disciplined as a kid and they'll say you're
not in trouble. But I got my eye on that. Maybe for you,
what I said, I got my eye on you. That mean you
No, you just ain't pushed the bikey yet. Man. Hey, I'm
concerned and you and that's okay. I'm concerned. I'm not calling the griffin.
I'm not calling me to get fired. I'm just concerned. Gianni is
fumbling the ball like he got meatball grease on his hands. Still true.
I just I mean time, let's figure this out. I mean, like
I said, we ain't made a predicta. I'm gonna stick with the keys
logic of twenty to twenty five game? You pick? Hey, how is
looking because they think about this? Remember them Lakers last year? Oh god,
I'm just saying, remember Lakers think about the Lakers. Last year.
At this time, I was like, over, they ain't gonna win nothing.
You're saying that, and look where they finished the season at NBA.
What's then current finals? Hey, what do y'all owe me some money?
Up? Oh he didn't wear he didn't war where when? But you got
a nice party gift at the end of the season, filthy animal that I
still got nothing from either of you. So anyways, I gave you a
pardon give right, I did get apparel old sneakers. Uh, I just
tossed the box. But you know, I knew y'all wouldn't take right,
y'all wouldn't take it serious. I can't where I thought you was playing after
the Lakers incident, I thought you was you. I wouldn't wear a laquer
hat. That's completely different. We had. We had a a nice agreement
that we would give each other party gifts. No you you you said,
I mean you said, I mean, did you get a gift? But
that's did you get a gift? Oh Jesus, thanks for healing and delivering
because almost said it up. Anyways, my thing about me being concerned and
y'all not being concerned, is it there? Yeah, I appreciate that it's
in a box collecting us like it. I'm gonna say something again, Jesus.
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